Transcript of Yung Gravy is the Sultan of Sauce! | Whiskey Ginger

What up, Whisky Ginger fans. Welcome back to the show. If it's your first time joining the show, welcome to the show. Got a good one for you today. Please like it, subscribe it, all that jazz. Leave a comment down below for the algo rhythm. Ladies and gents, ladies and germs, tonight, I am in Boston, Massachusetts. I'm doing four shows at the Wilba Theater. Four shows. I am so excited to be back in Boston, one of my favorite cities on planet Earth. You've done me so right. Andrewsantino. Com for those tickets. Also next week, I'm shooting my special in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Are you in Minneapolis? You better come see your boy. I'm doing four shows there on the 21st and 22nd, shooting my special. Come out and see me. Support the kid. Go to AndrewSantino. Com for those tickets. Andrew Santino, In here, we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey.

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I like ginger. Ladies, gentlemen, welcome back to Whisky Ginger. My guest today is one of my favorite people on Earth. I say that from, I guess, but I mean it once again today. It's Young Gravy. How to do that, babe. Young Gravy, welcome to the show. Cheers for years, my friend. A little bit of old fits, my boy. Yes. He looks in the eye. He knows. That's Midwest's finest. He knows. You look him in the skull. When people don't do that, This is good. Bueno.

I'm curious where the cheers and then back down again, how common is that? Cheers to the table?

Where you cheers. I think it's a regional thing.

Yeah, exactly.

I don't know a lot. I know we do it back home, but I do think I've seen people that don't hit the table.

They just cheers enough. In the south, they do it. The Midwest, they do it. But I think coastal places, they don't really do it.

Wow. These liberal coastal hubs.

I'm curious to hear.

These libtards, they don't do it out there. Yeah, It is so dude. I think it's definitely regional. It's a regional thing. But back home, everybody does it. But I heard a rumor. You can look this up. This has got to be bullshit. This has got to be bullshit. Yet you cheers. The reason that it started was to make sure some of my beer gets in some of your beer and some of your beer gets some my beer. That way, if you put shit in my beer or poison me, you'd get some of it, too.

It says it originates from Greeks and Romans, but specifically German people bang up their mugs and shout to scare off ghosts. And Some German ass shit. Yeah, that is.

Incas have a ritual where the first sip of corn beer is ritually given to the dead. This is to scare off the ghosts? I want to make sure the ghosts don't come attack us. That's insane, dude.

Are you talking like an AI or something like that?

No, he's just good. He got the fast fingers, dude.

You should look up... So my last name is Swiss German. It's H-A-U-R-I. I just found out there's some crazy lourd. Hauri? Hauri, yeah. It's like, look up Hauri and then look up The Lanch Ghost.

Oh, bro. This is going to get fucking good.

Yeah. No, I thought my name was like, just... It was like, L'Oréal Hauri.

Oh, yeah. But that's H-O-W.

Yeah, that's right. I was like, oh, maybe I'm just a different spelling.

How funny that you and Rell are related It would be Loulou, Loulou, Loulou, dude. H-a-u-r-i. How are you?

I asked Claude about it. I got this crazy story.

In the meantime, by the way, Minnesota Love. This is Minnesota Love. He's Minneapolis right there. I'm shooting my special in Minneapolis. That's how I love that place. It's funny. People go, why Minneapolis? And when people ask me, I know they don't understand. So I don't even give them the time of day. If you don't get it, then you don't know.

Yeah. I think all artists that I've spoken to, we all have. I mean, I'm specifically thinking rappers, but everyone has their favorite cities to perform in. And everybody, Minneapolis is always on LA. Across the board.

But as comics, bro, we love it. I think the quickest way I can do it is, Minnesota as a whole has a pretty healthy contingency of people on the left and people on the right. So you get this great mash of a lot of different political thoughts and opinions and lifestyles. And I think that's healthy for a comic that you get to touch all these nerves instead of a place that's, not to stereotype, but like, Portland is so one way of living and thinking. I mean, it just is. But it's gotten better. I do love performing in Portland, but for years it was like, you're going to get one audience. When you I never felt that way. Every time I was there, this feels like a million different people from a ton of different kinds of cultures and places and thoughts. It always felt that way to me. So I was like, I have to shoot something there. And it came around. I was like, I got to shoot a special.

And I think with the weather and everything, people just appreciate good things more. Correct. Because there's so much shitty.

Well, that's why I'm doing it in February. February 22nd, I'm shooting it because I was like- It's peak. It's a peak. It's a peak. It's a perfect time.

Horrible weather.

Yeah, dude. But it's perfect time because I was like, that's when people will be inside wanting to hang out, have a drink, laugh, escape the cold because I'm from Chicago. I know it. I know the beat of the cold when in the winter, when you get together, people get a little fucked up and watch something fun. The energy is perfect.

Yeah. I knew you from Chicago. Yeah. And I know a lot of comics start in Chicago.

A lot of people move to Chicago to start their career. A lot of them, dude.

What's the place called?

Well, a lot of people, Second City. Okay. But Second City is more of an improv and sketch world, but it's revered as There's this comedy hub because of Second City's history, because all these people that came through, Farley died there. It just became this through line for people that if you were a Midwest kid, you moved to Chicago to try to get on in the comedy world, specifically SNL people. A lot of SNL people went through Chicago.

Is that still a thing? A hundred %, dude.

Second City is...

Could I show up and just...

As an audience member?

No, as like a...

Oh, and try to get out?

Try to get out of my comfort zone.

I'm sure you could. I'm sure. Well, I think what they do now is you take classes, you pay for a class, then you try to get passed, and then you try to get in a company. And then once you start performing regularly, you slide your way up the ladder.

I did an improv class. It was during peak COVID, and it was over Zoom.

And it was Improv over Zoom? Yeah. Kill me.

It's some popular company here, I think.

Well, it's Groundlings?

Yeah, I did that. And I had a really good time. Were you ripping? No, I was all right. My DJ was on there with me, and he's so good at improv. Oh, really? Yeah. I was doing all right. That does make sense.

A DJ does have to be good at improv. You have to be good on the fly. What's his name? Dj? Tip.

With 10 eyes.

Dj Tip.

There's 10 eyes.

10 eyes. Okay. Great guy. Tell me about Howri. Tell me about Howri.

I couldn't find anything. I couldn't find it.

It was like an avalanche, ghost, name. He'll find it.

I'll get it ready before we leave.

Watch. He'll find it. There's no way.

I already asked Claude, so let me find this. Who's Claude? Claude is like It's an AI. It's my favorite one. My boy.

Claude is your dog.

Yeah, my fucking dog.

I'll backcheck Claude.

Claude Sonet, I think is what it is.

You're not tripped up by that, having that AI on all the time, and they're listening to you all the time. This is already listening to you. Now it's feeding more.

It's just helpful. At this point, I think it's going to take over everything. Just let it be, huh? Yeah. I can't change it, so I might as well just use it.

I feel that jump on board. I mean, why not? No, your Macone says, no, thanks, dude.

No.

No, it just seems a little sketch. I like to ask it like personal questions.

What should I call you? I want to hear it be more human. It was a very interesting conversations I've had with it.

I haven't gotten trapped yet. I don't know if I will. I feel like it might not be my thing. But Claude, what is his name?

Claude.

Of an uncle Claude. It's the only thing I can do name association with.

So when I was in the car ride here, I was like, you know what? Let me just I get some basic info on you. I usually don't look them into any detail. I try not to learn too much about a podcast before I go in. Sure. But I said, you know what? What did I say? I said, I said, Hey, Claude, I'm about to be a guest on Andrew Santino's podcast. He says, The podcast is called Whisky Ginger. Santino typically interviews his guests while sharing whiskies with them, creating a laidback conversational atmosphere. Some background on him. He's a stand-up comedian and actor group Chicago. Got to start. I didn't even read this far. Major acting roles include Dave, close friends with comedians like Bobby Lee. It is a smart motherfucker. Yeah, they know what they're doing.

Yeah.

So I'm just like, all right, well.

Claude's right. Claude, yeah. Does he say anything about my game? He's got a good game. He's sexy.

He's cool. What should I ask him right now?

Is Andrew Santino a good lay? Okay. I mean, I want to know. I could ask my wife, but she won't give me the truth. Claude will only tell me the truth.

Andrew Santino, a good lay.

My wife will never tell me the truth. Claude will tell me the truth.

Okay. Sexual intercourse. Let me just make sure. You got to clarify for Claude. Just to make sure.

He might be a little too.

I aim to keep our discussion professional and respectful. I should not and cannot speculate or discuss anyone's private, intimate life.

Shout out, Claude. Thank you for that, Claude. I'm going to be honest with you. Thank you. Because you know what? That is my private life. Boundaries. Well, he has boundaries. That's how mature AI is. It won't even joke about sexual stuff.

Yeah. Well, all right, Andrew. Just thank you.

That is great.

You said you're welcome.

God bless. God bless to call. Tell me about this. You just got back from the AVNs. Yes. And you performed or you just went?

I performed. Yeah. You did. The AVN's, Adult Adult Video.

Nominations? What does that stand for? I don't even know what it stands for. How have I never known that? Adult Video. I guess Nominations, but that can't be right. What is it? I looked at a different I looked at a vascular disease. Okay, thanks, dude. I'm glad you're on it today, bro.

Thank you. It's the porno. Adult Video News.

Adult Video News? That's what it says. It is the... Well, it's the Adult Video News Awards.

The Oscars of Porn.

It's the Oscars of Porn.

And I performed there a few times. Two years ago, I did their big after-party, and it's a really interesting place to be.

Yeah. Interesting is the word.

Yeah. I have a lot of fun there. You said you're married. It might be a little different because there's a dude coming up to me wearing a VR camera and his wife's there. And he's like, Will you fuck my wife? I would love to get this content.

And?

I was just like, No, I think I'm good, man. I appreciate it. We ran into each other three times over the two days I was there.

He was like, I'm going to ask you again.

He was like, Yeah, I'm serious.

Will you fuck my wife for this VR?

There's some freaky people.

What is he offering to pay you for this? Because he's going to make money on it.

We didn't get that far.

But clearly, he's going to make money on that. And I'm sure he goes there, trolls people enough, and someone's like, Hell, yeah. Fuck your wife, dude. And then he throws that up. They make content. They make money. It's probably not his wife. He probably pitches that for the The actual taboo of it. It's probably just the girl he works with.

I'm pretty sure it's the wife. I talked to her with her as well, and she was like, Yeah, she was trying to get my information as well. We don't have to film it. We don't have to film it?

Yeah.

They're real swingers. Real swingers. You could tell he No, he didn't care at all. He was like, Fuck my wife. That's interesting.

Can you not care? Can you have someone watch? You have a girl? No.

I could not. No, I could not. Like, watch your girl. The watching thing is, yeah, it's wild.

You have to have another switch in your mind if you're able to turn that off and click into the other thing and let that happen. There's got to be something else. To want to watch it is work. I mean, dude, not spitting on your kink, whatever. Whatever makes you go. I I just think it's I don't know how you get there mentally. That's a long way from home for me.

Milfs have been a big part of my brand.

Oh, dude, big time. We know. You're king of the milfs. Thank you. They christened you. You know that? You have a statue down in Long Beach.

No, in Long Beach. Tampa.

Yeah.

Remember the milfs heard Scottsdale, probably.

Scottsdale is milf heaven, dude.

There was one in, I'll just say Pennsylvania, and she's a well-known milf. And her daughter is also in the industry, the age difference is big enough where there's the mom who does porn and the daughter. And she wanted me to pipe her while her daughter watched it to get tips and stuff.

That was the weirdest I was just like, man.

And then she's like, we could switch after. We don't fuck each other, but we could switch. It just made me uncomfortable.

And was this filmed?

I didn't do it. No, I don't know.

You didn't even get to do it. Some families trade cookbooks Books and recipes. Some trade their kids.

It's like playing catch with your kid. That's right.

Yeah, they were catching it for sure. What's the age difference? How old was the daughter?

I want to say the daughter was a year or two younger than me.

How old are you?

28.

Okay, right on.

Mom was 55.

Right on. And you were like, I can't do it, dude.

I mean, I bang the mom without the daughter there.

How mad would that be? What a dinner is that at home? That's a bad Thanksgiving. Remember, when you fuck gravy, mom? Remember? When you like gravy, lay it down, mom. Without me?

What the fuck?

Pass the pees. That's a big part of your brand, though. When you go to Avienne, are you milf? Is this a big deal for them to have you around the milf category? Are they trying to get you involved?

Yeah, there's pitching for me to do all that. But I think it's been clear that I won't. And I I mean, honestly, I have the most fun is walking around the convention and they have stands. It's like a state fair, but instead of offering you fried food, it's like, oh, here we have a vibrator for video games. My friend and I tried to play Fortnite while sitting on a vibrating thing. If you get killed, it vibrates. And the WiFi wasn't working well enough.

But the- God damn WiFi, dude. I swear to God. Get the fiber work in AVN. If you're going to have vibrating Fortnite stations, please get the WiFi up to speed.

But I do got to show some love to AVN because first off, they have fleshlights that are molded after the actual Yeah. Pussy and booty hole of a ton of women. Famous themselves. Yeah. Actually, Brandy Love, who's a friend. She gave me hers and signed it and everything.

You can't use it now.

I don't know. I have never used a flesh light.

You never tried Bro, must. Must try. It's fun. Yeah, we try. I tried. Fleshlight used to sponsor South by Southwest. They did. It was at our Moon Tower, one of the two comedy festivals, and they gave us one in our arrival bag. I think I did this bit on stage years ago when it happened. But in our arrival bag, it's like T-shirts, your artist passes, drink tickets, barbecue coupons, whatever the fuck. And then there was a fleshlight in there. And I remember we were all opening up our welcome bags in the lobby, the hotel, and everybody I was like, dude, did you get a fuck in there? I was like, yeah, look at this. And everyone's laughing. Everyone's like, yeah, man, that's crazy. Isn't that fucking crazy? And we're like, I'll see you guys later. I'm going to drop some stuff off. I got to drop some shit off in the hotel. I had to try it. My problem was you have to clean it.

I believe.

And that's the thing where you're so sad and grossed out that you're cleaning out this. You know what I mean? It's like an extra step of masturbation that you're just like, this is a total waste of my time. Why am I doing this?

It crossed my mind to have my assistant do it, but I can't.

Dude, yeah.

Can't do that. I'll go in the shower with it.

Is your assistant a dude or a girl? You met him.

Okay.

A dude is fine. Yeah. I was just going to say a girl, you can't do that. A girl, I would be. Yeah, that's flagrant. You cannot do that. But the dude, your homie, it depends on...

Yeah. So close. Yeah, we're close.

You clean it up, dude.

So since I got gifted her personal shaped vagina and it signed and everything, I'm trying to think of a romantic way that I could, my first fleshlight experience, I show her. I don't really want to film myself doing it. You know what I mean?

Take it out on a date.

Take it out on a date.

Yeah. Take a fleshlight out on a date. Take it to a dinner or something like that. I mean, right? If you want to do it creatively and funny and not show you using it, show the before and after. Kind of like how they do on the bachelor, where they show everything but them hooking up. They show them going into the room and then they talk to them after in the next morning.

I'd love to see the experience of you setting up.

I could just go on a date. Yeah. Go on a date, set up, use it, and the next day, film yourself the next morning, how How did you feel?

I was planning to maybe kiss it and send her a video, but not. I was so elaborate.

But now I think I'm just going to hug it.

I might have to do it.

Yeah, I think put it on a date. That's great. It's great content, by the way. You take a date. A lady in the tramp with spaghetti.

That's so funny, dude. I See, I've been off the Internet for a while. I haven't put on content. That could be a good way to come back.

Why? Why avoid the Internet so far?

That just bugs me. I don't know.

Yeah, well, it's the fucking worst. But isn't it in part of your success?

Yeah. I was going so hard on it for a while. I wanted to see if... Well, I just needed a break. And I also was curious to see if I just was silent for six months, if I could come back and it would work. But you did. It did. It did. But now I had a I've known my girlfriend for a while. I've grown up a little bit. I haven't done the milf. That's what really gets me the attention is banging someone's mom. And I think now, I think the next step could be a fleshlight date.

I love it, dude. It's professional. I really do think so. It's It's very classe. It's very classe, dude. Yeah, you take it to a nice place. Take the fleshlight to Nobu.

All right.

I'm going to play that out. And let it order. Let the fleshlight order.

Just literally just be silent. Yes, silent.

Let the server come over. Can I get you guys something to drink? Like, ma'am, Brandy?

Brandy?

The Lady and the Tramp. Huge. I think I know which one you're talking about. Brandy. Brandy Love.

She's well known.

Brandy Love.

I have a male porn star friend, Shalha Damon-Dice.

Oh, yeah, I know this. I know her.

Yeah, I'm sure you do.

She She's so famous.

I shot her out in a song in 2018. And then when we shot the video, he surprised me with her at the video shoot. Oh, that's cool. She's in the video. And then I hadn't seen her in a long time then when I got there.

Is she a big fan of yours?

Yeah. Big fan. Yeah. We Take a little while. In here, we pour whiskey.

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I guess just to finish on the AVN, it's interesting to see that the fans that are waiting in line to get some weird horny shit, some of them are just normal ass dudes. Some of them are cool.

Yeah. Well, yeah, it's all walks of life over there. There's no judgment of Let that thing fly, whatever. If it's legal and okay, that's all good with me.

I thought it was just a good vibe. The girls, they're really friendly. When I do a meet and greet, I'm willing to do whatever. I'll kiss a fan on my cheek or something or make drama tattoo or something. And it's cool to see that the porn stars will do the same thing with these guys that are jerking off to them, and everyone's just happy.

It's funny. Your fans are jerking off to you, too. It's more metaphorical than literal. Yeah. They get off to you. Thank you. Your fans love you. So they're jerking off, too. Likewise. It's just not pulling. You know what I mean? They're not physically pulling on their body, but you're doing something on their inside. They're not gooning. They're not gooning, dude.

I just learned what that meant. Gooning? Gooning. Yeah. I had no idea what it was. I've heard a lot I thought it was about it. You know what gooning is? Gooning? Gooning? Yeah. What's gooning? I thought it just meant edging.

That's what I thought it meant, being like a- It's apparently like a joke, I think.

But it's like getting to a ethereal level of ejaculation and losing your mind and going cross-side.

Like losing your mind.

Yeah, that's gooning.

I'd be gooning.

Yeah, it says Gooning follows the Edge session.

This is insane. Gooning follows edging. Ideally. You know who's King Goon then, dude? Sting. Do you know about Sting? The music person? Yeah. Yeah. Do you not know?

I don't know who he's Goon.

Sting is King Goon. Sting will have these sex parties. Google this. He'll have these crazy Kama sutra tantric sex, sex parties where they last five, six, seven hours of edge, loured chaos, goon. They go off.

They have Viagra. They must.

Yeah. They're Bluetooth up. I mean, That's the new world, dude. I know guys, I'm older than you, but I know guys my age that they live and die by using pills.

I know a lot of guys my age or younger.

See, that's what's wild because you're 28. To me, that's crazy because my age, I'm 41, and I'm very blessed. I've never had the problem. It's not a problem. I've just never had that thing pop up. And I talk to my friends, and they're all like, oh, dude, I won't not use it. And I'm like, that's wild. I'm afraid to use it because I'm afraid of then your body being like, well, now I need it. That's a big fear.

You know what I had when I started college? I had maybe three times in a row when I looked up with girls, I got a whiskey dick. I was just too drunk and I couldn't get it up. And then I started this anxiety in my head, performance anxiety, basically, where I would start kissing a girl or something like that and instantly just think, Oh, I'm not going to get hard. Oh, that fucks you up. Dude, it was a year long where I was like, even when I wasn't even with a girl, I'd I'm really anxious all the time. So that's when I learned meditation. And I have this whole thing. I was getting deep in it because I was really into psychology and shit. I would chew this certain flavor of gum and associate it with... I think that part was unnecessary. But I was like, I have this one flavor of gum every time that I was doing something horny, I would chew that gum, and then I would meditate. And finally, I just told this girl that I had this issue, and she helped me get over it. That's right. But that was a year when I was in college, where I just, I don't know.

I I got a placebo.

Right. The placebo. Could you even get hard or you just couldn't stay hard?

I could get hard randomly or when I woke up in the morning, I'd have morning Good. And that basically means that your shit works, but it's just all mental. If you can still get morning wood. So then I got all Zen with it, and I started meditating and relaxing my brain and being able to just focus on the girl and not that.

That's good. It's working. I got over it. So Gravy is a meditator. I dig that, dude.

I still meditate before shows. You do?

How long do you meditate for before shows? Ten That's it. Yeah. That's it. Yeah.

Anything crazy.

Complete darkness, silent meditation. Can you be anywhere? Do you need to be in a certain place, position?

I like to be sitting up. When I was that whole era, I had a lava lamp that I would stare at.

I dig that.

And it was on the I had a desk in my college apartment. And that was also right when I started rapping. So I would write in front of that lava lamp where I would start writing my music and everything. So that particular desk, I accomplished a That's cool. Got my dick to work and made offers.

And made music? Yeah. God bless. I hope you kept that desk, dude. Should have come home with you.

I think it's actually at my mom's house.

Okay, good. What college you go to?

Uw, Madison.

Oh, yeah, you did? Yeah. Love that place, dude.

I know a lot of people from... Where'd you go high school?

Was it Naperville? Yeah. You know a lot of people up there? Yeah. That's wild. I love Madison, dude. That's one of my favorite places of all time.

I did a girl for a long time from Libertyville. Okay. And Lake Forest as well.

Oh, yeah, dude.

That's pretty close to you, right?

Yeah. It's north. They're north. That's nice. That's up a little bit.

I spent some Thanksgiving there, man. Oh, you did? Yeah.

Look at you, dude. In the Chicagoland area.

And a lot of my good friends from college all live in Chicago now. So I'm out there for weddings and stuff like that.

You're going back a lot. You'll never move back to the Midwest.

I think I'd maybe want to get a Lakehouse on Lake Minnetonka for the summer.

Sounds like a good spot.

Or Chicago. Chicago is fucking awesome.

Yeah, but get a Lakehouse, man.

I've always thought that if Chicago had a bit better weather, even if it was Denver weather, I could live there.

100 %. It's my favorite city, man. It's home. I love it so much. I just see the weather is so dog shit. It's unbelievable. It's shockingly shit. How could it be this bad?

And Minnesota is a little bit worse.

But Minnesota is worse, but it's also... It's like, Minneapolis is not as big, not like a size-wise as a city like Chicago is. Yeah, it's not as huge. No.

It's big though. People don't realize it. I think it's the 10th biggest. Check this out. 10th biggest Metro population in the US, I think, is Minneapolis. That's just big. 20 cities. It's a good size. Twin cities.

Yeah. Say you got to throw in Saint Paul, though, dude. You can't leave them out.

Shout out to Saint Paul.

Good place. Shout out to Saint Paul. It is a good place. No, but I do think beyond the weather, it would be the greatest city, Chicago. It's a little lower.

Where is it sitting?

Sitting at 16. What happened, you guys? You fell.

What's above it?

Number one, New York, New Jersey City.

Can I guess? Number two. New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Dallas, US.

I think I know the fifth one.

You go.

I'm going to say Atlanta.

No, no, no. Miami. Houston. What? Really? Okay. And then Miami? Then Atlanta. Atlanta is above Miami?

Dude, Atlanta is huge.

Yeah, but okay, this is Metro.

Yeah. Number seven, none of you've said yet.

Wait, hold on. Phoenix. No.

San Antonio, Austin. No. Then it's got to be- Boston. Yeah. No. What? Philly?

Washington, Arlington, Alexandria. Oh, yeah. Like the DMV. Okay. The number eight. Is it Boston or Philly? Philly. Philly.

It got to be Philly, yeah. Nine Miami. Miami's way down. I thought Miami would be top five.

Miami is down there.

Phoenix.

Okay.

We can say that. You guys are getting stopped by Phoenix. Boston, Riverside.

River, like California?

Shout out Riverside, dude. Riverside, San Bernardino, Ontario has- That's all one thing, though. The IE. They still consider it all a similar Metropolitan. And San Fran, then Detroit, and Seattle, and Minneapolis.

You know what? If we're right next to Seattle, that's pretty good.

Seattle is the- Dude, that's That's such a sunny disposition. As we went down the fold, he was like, yeah, what about Seattle is dope. So I have a fuck with Seattle.

Come on now. I could do that. We're above Portland or above St. Louis, right? Yeah.

We're still asleep or we're underrated. We'll keep it that way. If I had my way about me, I would get a Lakehouse actually in Madison. I love going up there, dude. What's that little 6 foot Bay or whatever that's called? We used to take out the jet skis, the girls that own the club, Comedy on State, downtown. They would take us out there and we'd go rip around, man.

So Lake Mendona? Or Minona. Minona. Minona. So my first music video I shot, Mr. Clean, it was all in Madison. Really? And I borrowed a jet ski from someone. That's a big scene in the video. Oh, yeah. We were in the capital building. We were at a car wash. We were at Devil's Lake, and There was a whole shop where I was on that jet ski on that lake. That's dope, dude. And that Comedy Club. Yeah, Comedy Club.

Club. Yeah. Comedy on State.

Got kicked out of there when I was in high school.

That sounds right, dude. How were you in there in high school?

Snuck I am. My friend and I were right in the front, and there was a banter situation where we were drunk and we were just saying too much with the comedian, and we got cheered out of it. That was my first comedy show.

That's wild. That lake holds a lot of history. It killed somebody famous.

Was it... Who died there?

Someone's plane crashed in that lake.

Dude, I know this. It's not Buddy Holly because that's in Iowa.

That's right.

It's not Ray Charles.

It's not Ray Charles.

Otis Redding?

Otis Redding. Private jet crashed in Lake Monona. Lake, what is it? I'm saying it wrong. Mandota.

Mandota. There's two.

There's Mendota and they're sisters. Mandota Mandota is the one he died in, right? With a D. What a tragic fucking world, dude. When I learned that, that bummed me out so much because I love that. I was like, that sucks.

The crash was on Monona.

Monona?

That's a smaller one.

Yeah, that's a tiny one. Thank God. All right, cool. We can still represent the big one then. Makes me feel a little bit better. The tragedy of some of those guys, the way that they died. I don't know if you know the story of Sam Cooke. Have you heard Sam Cooke's story? I think I've told it on this.

Why do I know Sam Cooke? Why do I know that name?

Sam Cooke. I mean, historical soul singer, probably the most famous song you would know would be Twist In The Night Away or We're Having A Party.

Yeah, O. G.

Yeah, he's old school. Black guy. Yeah, got to be. Got to be. Got to be. And then this dude, this story is terrible. He He was in, I think it's Santa Monica. I know it was here in LA, and he got drunk at a bar, had a pocket full of cash because you're getting paid in cash back then only. And he got scoped out by this hooker, went to a hotel. Her story was he was all fucked up and he was beating the shit out of her. Chaser in the lobby. They got in an altercation and she shot him. Years later, you look this up. This is crazy. Years later, it came out that the girl at the front desk of the motel in this hooker were robbing him, and it was a robbery gone awry. And he was chasing after them, stopping them from robbing him, and they shot him. And the woman who did, I guess before she had passed, admitted how awful she felt that they had lied all those years, that it was actually a robbery and he wasn't beating them or anything like that. They were lying. Crazy. And his final words, one of the greatest singers of all time, his last words were, Lady, you shot me.

That's fucking dark. That's it. Imagine him holding his chest, looking up.

You've seen Taxi Driver? Oh, yeah. Taxi Driver, that's what I'm picturing. Yeah.

What a shit way to go. You shot me, bitch. You killed a legend.

And she knew. She knew.

Oh, dude, of course.

It was all planned out.

For a little bit of money. It wasn't even that much. I mean, look, it was a lot of cash for them, right? But that's the story. It's a crazy awful story. Was it Santa Monica? Where was it? I thought it was on the west side somewhere. He had just done a gig.

It says it's in South Central.

South Yeah. Don't go out like that, Kraby.

What is it?

By South Figueroa Street.

On South Fig, yeah. I'm not a fan of hookers. Mel, I think it's great. Hear me out.

Don't clip it.

I think it's great what they do. But I can't get into... I can't be turned on if they're not.

They're just for money. If they're having to fake it. Yeah. Yeah.

I can't get into that at all. I tried it in Germany. It was weird. I was like, Here's the money. Just buy. Really? Yeah. I got a tantric massage, though. Have you got that?

Uh-uh.

So I don't know if this is the norm, but I went into this room with my assistant. Well, we went into separate little areas. It was really funny because we went here. Our friend had just told us that it was going to be a cool thing to try. This is Germany? Yeah. We didn't know what we're getting into. It was Frankfurt. And these two women walking, one's pretty hot and one's just not. And we're like, all right, well, you know what? We're just sitting there ready for whatever. And the hot one comes and grabs me. And look at my boy. I'm like, you got this, brother. And we got dragged into these different rooms. It's just an empty room. You picture a Japanese house. Where it's everything's wood and Flat bare bones. Yeah. So I'm on the ground and I'm naked and she leaves the room. I don't really know what's going to happen. Comes back in, covered in oil.

You're covered in oil?

She was covered in oil, and then she covered me in oil by doing... It was like a massage where they rubbed their whole body on you. But it was very relaxing. It wasn't like... I mean, it was obviously sexual. Yeah, definitely sexual. I was torqued, but they're It's also a massage. She was doing tricks. She was spinning around and I couldn't even fully comprehend. I was falling asleep at the same time because it was so relaxing, but also torqued up. It was a very good experience. It was like 50 bucks.

You didn't need to chew that gum or anything. You just got there naturally. Yeah.

This is long past my issues. And then they do this thing where they use their hands and it feels like you're having sex. They master this technique where they're on top and they do this thing.

We got to go to Frankfurt, dude.

I mean, it was cool. We got to go to Frankfurt. I would recommend it, and it wasn't awkward. Tantric massage. Tantric massage. But it was more like they're trying to comfort you. It's not like you're trying to get off to them. Sure.

So it was cool. That's wild. That was cool. You do get to get off, but it's a part of it. And then they shower you or you just covered in a fucking oil and jizz and you got to walk home?

I don't remember. I didn't come, but my assistant told me that he actually arced it towards his own face.

Yeah, I met that dude.

That dude's a little interesting. Not that guy.

Not that guy? Okay.

Different guy.

I'm going to walk out there and be like, Bro, did you? I heard about the- Did you come on your face? Heard about that, dude. Good for you. You have Frankfurt, of your travels. That sounds like a good one. Where's the worst place you've been on tour? What place are you like? I'm not fucking going back there.

Oh, man.

Because as an artist, people always ask us, what's your favorite place to do comedy? And I always say, I can't do that. There's a million places I love. I can tell you the places I cannot stand.

I'm trying to think of my least favorite.

It could be in the States or could be overseas, too.

What's the town in Kansas? Wichita. I had a really weird experience there. Just like, I think it was just every single... Have you performed there? Never. Okay. I remember that we did a meet and greet, and after 10 people had come through the line, my tour manager and I look at each other and we're like, Bro, is this... We thought we were on punk punked or something. Yeah, it felt fake. Everybody was so strange and asking for the weirdest favors and all this shit. And then in the show, it was like, have you ever performed in China?

In China?

In China? No, never. It's just the norm to just not even just watch the show. They don't put their hands up for anything.

No excitement at all.

That was what the crowd was like. We're not going to China, dude. After them asking me crazy things, signing their birth certificate and naming their baby. In Wichita? Naming their baby. All these really weird questions in the meet and greet, where I'm like, all right, well, I guess it'll be a wild show. Then they all just stood there and just looked.

So it felt like you were back in China?

It was interesting. But I'd say my dark... It wasn't their fault. But when I was touring in Scandinavia during the winter, I was taking an antidepressant that was only approved in Canada and the US. And when my doctor tried to mail it to Germany, they blocked it at the border. So suddenly I'm out of my SSRI. That's bad. And I'm withdrawing in a place where it gets dark at 3: 00 PM. And I'm way up there, Helsinki, Stockholm. And I just remember, I was laughing. I was just like, man, I'm so depressed right now. You I love it. I accepted it.

And the show suffered because of it?

I drank and got... I felt like the writers, they were forever depressed and wrote all this good shit when they were drunk. I was like, I'm going to be fit I'm very old right now. I don't know what the fuck his name is. Just get tanked. Yeah. And it worked. It worked.

That is a trip when it gets dark like that.

And I'm proud that I made it through that. But I was just like, why? I'm down bad.

It's actually more creepy when it's all light all the time. I was in Reykjavik. And it was-Is that place pretty cool?

I've always thought about Pistam.

It's fucking rad, dude. Please go. 100 %. But we went in the summer. Yeah. When it was daylight all the time. And my friend, it fucked me up in a way. I couldn't. You're already jet lagged out. I was already like, wonky from jet lag because I'd been on tour traveling. And I think I came from Miami. I didn't come from New York because it would have And it's a way shorter flight. But I came from somewhere that was far enough away where it fucked with my time. My numbers were weird. And usually I'm pretty good at it when I travel internationally because I've done it enough where it just doesn't get me that bad. But, bro, when we got in there, I was with my buddy Ron, and yes, was like, what do you want to do? And my timetable was weird. I was like, well, I guess we should get on their schedule. So we tried to get on this. So we go out to dinner. I'm fucking wrecked tired. And I'm like, I do not want to be at dinner. We have a couple of drinks after we eat. He's like, let's go see a band.

There's this band, whatever. So we I'm like, I'm going to go see this band. Now I'm getting smoked. I was getting shit-faced. I was like, I'm in. I'm here. I'm having a good time. I'm here for three days. So I'm getting ripped. And we walk outside, and then we're outside with people in the square, just outside, just drinking and partying. And the sun is still setting. It looks like it's just setting. And I look at the clock, and it was 5: 30 in the morning. And I was like, dude, we fucking went through the night because your brain waits I wanted the sun to fuck off before you're like, I think I'm getting- It's a. But we cranked up that. Yeah, the circadian rhythm was gone. So I went home at like 6: 00 or seven, had to go shoot with the Mountain, the strongest man in the world. Why can't I think his name? He played the Mountain in Game of Thrones. Biork or Yorn or something? It's like Gregor Clegani. Yes. Gregor. Yeah. Clegan. Yes. I can't say his fucking name. But, dude, this guy's the shit. So I had to wake up.

Here I am, still shit-faced, three hours later and go work out with him in his gym. And, dude, this guy's no play around. I'm trying to do a comedy show with him and fucking have some fun. Does not want to fuck around. And he's like, okay, Okay. After this workout, you come to my gym, my personal gym. I was like, oh, okay.

After the workout? Yes, dude.

He wanted to go to another gym after we went to the first gym. So we go to the second gym and it's like all his homies fresh out of prison. I mean, fresh out of prison, dude. It's in the basement of what looks like a 711, and it was called Jaco Bowl. That was the name of it. And they had a big sign on the wall, and it said no armingiar. I'm pronouncing it wrong, but it meant no pussies. Holy shit. Dude, and everybody in there was, out of their mind, just yoked up on steroids, tatted up to the top, shaved head and screaming as other dudes work out. As dudes are working out, other dudes are like,. And it was like, amping them. They were like,. I was like, dude, this is the devil's dead.

They were gooning.

They were I'm doing it, dude. These guys were gooning hard. It was just like the AVN.

It sounds like the Salty's platoon.

Yeah, dude. It was insane. And I have to pretend like I wanted to wrap the shoot. I was like, we can dip out of here. And he's like, no, no, you have to lift. You will lift. And I was like, We're done. We don't have to film. He's like, no, you will lift. I was talking around. I was like, dude, is this guy going to fucking kill us in his gym in his basement? If I don't do this? He's like, I think we should just stay and do it. So I had to stay and lift. All these dudes yelled at me for another hour.

And I was like, dude, They're directing you on what workouts to do?

Oh, dude. Yeah. Well, they'll do it. It's monkey see, monkey do. Because a lot of them didn't speak English. So they would just show it to me and then point. And I was like, oh, guy. And I was just doing it. And then when we left there, again, it's still light out. So I'm a spinning top. We go out and drink again. Are you still up there at any point? No, dude. Maybe for two hours, an hour, maybe. So this was three days of chaos. When I sat on the plane, when I tell you I got on that plane three days later to go back to LA, I I'm not joking. I slept the moment I got in there until I heard the ding and people moving. I was out like a fucking light, dude. It was a rad experience, but I will say the sun up all the time was... I couldn't sleep for shit. They have blackout curtains. They do not work. They don't work. You know it's there. You can feel it in the slits of it. You know what I mean?

You know the sun is like- your eyelids just aren't doing it. I get that feeling all the time.

It's a true... So go. But just know, I think it just does Did something so weird. It fucked me up for a few days. Bad. And we just got back from Australia, and that didn't do anything to me. That fucked you guys up. You gone down there. But if you follow, I gave them the tools. I told them the schedule to not sleep on that first leg and then match up, and they were all like, fuck you. I'm not doing it. And then I got home, felt fine. These guys wrecked for a few days. We were all exhausted from just we had just so many shows in a row. Yeah. Have you done that run? The Australian run? Where you're Perth, Sydney, Adelaide, Brisbane.

We have enough time to not die.

Bro, we did. I love it out there. 12 shows in 10 days or something.

Okay. Ours wasn't like that.

We were rip it. It was awful.

In the week and a half or two weeks we were there, there was one day that we didn't either fly to a new time zone or have a show or both.

Yeah, it was a fucking trip, dude. I mean, I love it down there, but we fucked that up. Because a lot of shows were added after. Yeah, we added shows. That's the problem.

I love doing that. Like, ahead of time, I'm I had them all in there. And then when you start doing it, it's like, Oh, fuck. I had three shows in Nashville one time in the same day, and it was like, by the third one, I'm blacked out. I'm trying to do-Why am I doing this, bro?

Where do you play in Nashville?

I We've done Marathon, mostly. Okay. But we had Brooklyn Bowl.

Oh, wow. Which was a lot of fun.

Have you ever played-Exit, something?

Ryman? The Ryman. I think- The Ryman is like a church.

Oh, that's the one where El King talked some shit.

Oh, she did?

I think so.

What did she say?

I was trying to hang out. They're right around my time. She said something not religious. I could be totally lying right now. I'm looking up.

No, but it's at the Rhymen. She said some wild shit. Because it's like a historic venue. It was like where Johnny Cash. It's where the Grandel Opera. Grandel Opera used to be there.

Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. That's what happened to me is accidentally say the wrong shit.

Yeah, but let me tell you something. I don't even know you. We just met, but your soul is good. I can tell you're not like an evil cat. You don't have If you said something that you were like, fuck, I didn't mean that, I'd believe you. Do you know what I mean? Right back, he just said something on accident. There's no evil in your soul. Thank you, man. I can feel right away. I'm like, no. If you were like, I didn't mean that. I just was... I flipped up. We all slip up.

Honestly, I just don't really care about a lot. I don't understand why people hate things.

Yeah, you're not that care.

No, I can't really hate things.

It's a waste of your time.

It's really hard to make me mad. My friends will tell you I'll get mad maybe twice a year. And when I'm mad, it's over something serious, and I'm a different person. Sure. But it's very rare. It's really hard. I don't understand road rage. When people have road rage, I make fun of them.

I'm like, I'll get over it. Get over it, man. Yeah. It already happened.

Yeah.

It's a mentality. And I play a lot of golf. I love golf. Golf has taught me some real patience and a lot of philosophy of the world because you deal with all these problems, and it's only you. It's you versus you, which is It's beautiful. Even if you're playing other people, you're really just playing yourself, truly.

I have to start playing golf. You do it.

It's the best. But it's a great mental game. Beyond the fact that whatever shit people don't like about golf, the beauty is you have to refocus every time you play a shot, and it's a mental test. You have the mechanics. It's more about how well can this function with this at the same time? And a big thing that I say in golf is when someone has a bad shot, if I'm with a who's having a bad day, they hit a bad shot. And I'm like, it already happened. It's over. It already happened. Which is the philosophy that we're talking about. It's like, you can't get that mad, dude. It's over. So if you're mad about it, it ended already. The thing you're mad about is over.

It's gone. Some caused.

Yes. So just go on to the next thing. So there was a great book that I would recommend you reading, even if you're just starting to want to get into golf. But there's this guy, Rittella, that wrote a book called Putting Out of Your Mind, and then Golf Is Not A Game of Perfect. And the golf is not a game of perfect. It's more a philosophy book. It's golf. But it's for life. He's saying all these things of like, life is going to fuck with you all the time, just like golf. But if you're sitting in it and you're constantly stewing about the thing that already happened, you'll never be able to reek focus for the next thing to be good. It's impossible. That's life shit. It's the same thing you're talking about. It's like you're in traffic, you're fucking pissed off. It's like, it's already happened. It's over. You literally can't change it. That's how I feel about everything now. Like, when I'm on a flight, it's delayed or it's late or sitting on a gate and all that shit. I'm like, well, it's over. I fucking can't get up there. I mean, I would love to.

I do want to pull on one of those things at some point. What did I tell you? What did I tell you to look up just for a second? I blanked out.

If you look up the example of a... There's some really good example of a sunk cost. Somebody was like a plane.

Yeah, I hit you with something. What did I just say right before this? I blanked out on my mind. Of no evil in your... Oh, the El King thing. Did she say something bad? No, she was just drunk, and it was for, I think it was for Dolly Parton, and she picked up some of the lyrics, and she was hammered, and she swore. And I guess you're not really supposed to. Wait, you're not supposed to swear there? We swear them. Bobby was naked. We put on a filthy fucking show.

I don't get why. I was confused about why.

It's because she's a country music artist, and that's country music haven. I think people felt it was respectful because it was for a tribute-specific concert, and she was drunk and forgot the lyrics.

Let me tell you something. Do you think of Dolly Parton? I don't know enough about Dolly Parton, but do you think she would care? She was there, would she care?

I highly doubt it.

Probably be drunk and have fun.

She seems like a pretty rad fucking person. Everything you see Sidebar, and you're like, oh, she's the shit. She's fucking awesome. Yeah, what the fuck? All of it are saying fans. Nothing is from Parton directly. See, but this is the thing. There is a delicate nature to the country music world that they like things the way they like things. And if you shake the thing up, they get fucking mad. Which is not like that in rock or indie or rap. The audiences are much more malleable in other genres. Country, for some reason, is like, do it the way we like it or we're going to get fucking upset at you.

This is a good time for me to give you this hat. I I wasn't just wearing this to wear it. I was leaving my house and I was like, I need to give him a gift of some sort.

Dude, this is fucking beautiful.

Yeah, that's from the Tocoy in Austin.

Wow.

I have a bunch of cowboy hats now.

It's probably going to be too big for my small head. Was it?

It looks all right. Yeah. I was thinking maybe we switch that for.

God bless, dude.

In here, we pour whiskey.

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Ginger. I like ginger. So I did an experimental country trap album last year. Serving Country.

Serving Country.

It was just mainly a thing for fun and to learn a lot of shit because I had never learned how to sing or play instruments. I was a straight SoundCloud rapper. But my friends and I, I met Shani at 20, and we got really close.

Well, hold on. How rad is that? It was awesome.

She's so cool. I just met her. Honestly, when I met her, I didn't know. I was just on my gravy shit. I saw this somewhat older than me woman that was pretty. And I was like, I'm going to go talk to her. I was at a Grammy party. I didn't know it was Shania Twain because she always changes her hair color. So I went up and I started talking to her and we just got along really well. And then I met her husband, who's Swiss. My dad was Swiss. And we bonded over the fact, I lost my dad. He is coming into her family and he's this new dad figure. So we have this really cute bond immediately. That stuff. And then I went to her house. We made some music together. We actually made six songs. The first session we did. We were in Milwaukee. She flew me out to Milwaukee. I love Milwaukee. What's the studio called? We were in there together for 14 hours. Everyone else is falling asleep. Me and Shana and I are just locked in, just going crazy. And Anyways, I met her. I got close with Hardy and Morgan Wallen and all these guys.

This is a really cool industry. It's time that I learn some other instruments and just try something and see if people can get involved with it. We ended up having too much fun. I made a whole album. It was going to be an ERP, but we made a full album, which I love it. I'm proud of it. But it was at the same time where everybody then started. As I'm about to drop it, Beyoncé did hers, and then everyone else is dropping it. So I I just look like a bandwagon guy, but I think I did a really good job of gravifying the country shit. You guys got to listen to if you want.

I'm down. Gravifying the country world. Yeah. I mean, gravy is a major fixture of Southern culture. Yeah. So you fit perfectly.

So we were in there. I mean, should I spend a night at Zack Brown's house? We made a song. Phenomenal. I worked with Shania on plenty of records. There's Brantley Gilbert in there, too.

You hit all the big names.

Yeah. I was going around and then I'm actually in there singing. That's wild. Playing some instruments and whatnot.

Would you learn how to play?

The guitar. I'm not good. And the harmonica. Basically, my producer, Diamond Pistols. We did the whole album together. Shout out to him. And he would mostly cut all the final shit. But sometimes I'd be like, Hey, let me die. So I know.

The guitar, though, a shout out to anybody that can play any instrument.

It's so fucking hard.

Bro, I give so many props, and people are always like, I got my wife a piano. She played piano since she was a kid, and I bought her a piano for Christmas because I was like, she loves. That's hot. I was like, we've never... We always had a keyboard in our first apartment, and for years she had it, and she played it a little bit. But I was like, when we go home to her mom's house, she'd play piano. And I was always like, man, I wish we had a fucking piano. And then finally this year, I was like, we can afford a fucking nice piano. You have it in your house?

Yeah. There are times when you're trying to sleep and someone's playing it. No. I've been ace through the whole house.

No. But it is loud as fuck. Yeah. No, it's not quiet at all. But I was like, I'm going to buy her the piano. And now when she plays it, even when she fucks up, I'm like a kid. I'll watch her and be like, that's amazing. She's like, this isn't even that good. I'm like, that doesn't matter. I can't play any instruments. So to me, when anybody even fucks around a guitar, I'm like, oh, dude.

It's It always impresses me because people are like- The amount of hours that someone has to put in to be even decent at any of those.

That's what I'm saying. People don't give it enough credit when someone's like, he's okay. It's like, yeah, dude, that's how I feel about anything. Making music, doing standup is like, when you see a final product and you're like, oh, that's great. And you're like, it is great. It's also impressive how much time people put into that shit. If you only fucking knew, it's insane. It's not trying to suck our own dicks. Yeah. I mean, dude- But it's crazy how much Look what you put in with Shania. Look what you put into these things. You do want people to feel that a little bit. You're like, dude, I really busted my ass. So when people do say anything negative or positive, you're like, just no. I fucking this is the thing I love the most.

I had the most fun making that project, and I wanted to see if my fans would go along with it. And a lot of them, I mean, most of them did. I did a whole tour, the Serving Country tour, Grits & Gravy. That's what we called it. Grits & Gravy is perfect. And I brought a band, a whole band, and I'd do all my normal rap hits and then go off stage and dress into a full Nudy Cohen suit and wear a cowboy hat and come back out with a band. We do the country music, and then we would do covers of my normal songs with instruments and stuff. That's cool. It was awesome.

We put a country spin on the cover of your- A little bit, we did country spin.

Mostly, it was just I played the normal trap shit, and they just add a little extra.

But the fans loved it.

It worked. Yeah, they loved it. It was cool to see that I gained a lot of new fans where I wasn't used to having meet and greets where three-fourths of the meet and greet are women that are older than me rather than it being high school kids. And the crowds are more chill. They're all just drinking, having a good time. And it felt like I was at a different person show. So I was awesome. And it's cool now that I'm just going back to rap. People are like, yeah, you did it. Yeah, that is good. It feels good. Does that feel right on you? Because you don't have to wear it. I like it.

You don't have to. I got to I got to tell you something. It makes me feel stoic. Good. I feel like I want to... I don't smoke anymore, but I feel like I want to smoke.

Smoking dark inside.

Big time, dude. It just feels like I'm supposed to do something like that.

Once you start wearing them, it's addictive.

I've never had a cowboy hat, and I'm 100 % going to wear this more often. Hell, yeah. I'm in, dude.

I got sold on it. It was between that and the black one. I thought, no, I think that's- No, white on white makes sense.

I pop a little bit. You know what I mean? I need this. You're white. The blonde pops. I am white. Yeah, you're very white.

We're similar.

We're similar tone.

What's your Irish, obviously?

Irish and Italian. My dad, Sicilian side. Although it is funny. I see all this shit on the Internet that makes me mad when someone's like, why are these Americans saying that they're Italian or Irish. It's like, you're American. They hate us. The fucking like, Europeans can't stand it. I feel like it's just Irish people. It's like Italians. If you say that, if you say to an Italian ever, Oh, yeah. My dad's family is Italian. You're American. Yeah. They always step on that. You know what I'm talking about that bothers me. It's fucking annoying.

See, I feel more legit because my dad's actually born and raised in Switzerland. So I'm like, Swiss, Swiss. You are legit. I'm a citizen and have a passport.

But you were born here, right? I was born here. Yeah. So your dad moved to Minneapolis.

Moved to a bunch of different places. He was a professor at Dartmouth first. My dad came up, like small village in Switzerland. They're pretty poor. I have gone there, visited all. I mean, all of his siblings have died in accidents. It's crazy. Very interesting background. Really?

What are we talking? Like car crash?

Like car crash, bike accident.

Motorcycle bike?

Just bicycle. No, bicycle? Head damage like that. What? Yeah. The craziest, saddest one is that there was his older sister. She's about 60, I think. And her husband was a rock climber. He fell rock climbing when he's like 60 as Well, and he's in a almost death condition at the hospital. And she's so scared driving there that she crashes her car and they both died at the same time.

What, dude? Yeah.

Did you have a song about that? To me, it's almost like it's tragic, but it's romantic. It's like when you hear about an old person, one of them dies, and then the other one dies a week later from broken heart syndrome.

Yeah. They're just like, fuck it. It's rad.

Yeah. I think once you've gotten to, I don't know, it could be me, but after you reach a certain age, I wouldn't be mad if I died.

What's your age? What's the cresting?

I mean, I would love to live longer, but I feel like I'm lucky enough to have done the things I wanted to. I could die happy now.

Right now?

I think so. But it would be awesome to have a kid and a family.

And do that thing. Yeah.

I think the goal is at least 60, but I wouldn't complain.

I promise you're going to make it to 60.

I think I will.

Yeah, dude. I'll I'll bet my bank account. Thank you. Well, also, technology is only getting better for health longevity, and you're still young, where you're going to see the technology get better and better. I'm 41. We're not that far apart. Well, dude, Something about 40 does something to your bones.

You changed. They made that movie, bro. This is 40. It's all in your head, bro.

Yeah, that's true, bro. Was that movie about people needing to grow up? Isn't that like the core of that film?

I think it was just about... I thought you were bringing up a different movie. I think it's just about...

This is 40.

It's like, oh, this sucks.

Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm telling you. Yeah, yeah.

But I mean, shit.

It all gets harder. No, you know what it is? It's just like you see more at my age now, I see more... You see more lives solidified or shattered. You see more people growing their family into children, having a lot of kids. You see people that have gone I'm through tragic divorces or death and stuff. So you really see it's more polar when you get to my age. Not like I'm an old, wise man. I'm just saying something about in the age of around the 40 is when it started happening. I see a lot of friends with multiple kids, and they had to move, and somebody died, unfortunately, or they got a divorce, and lives are shattered, or they're grown. And I think it happens around 40 in a way that-I think I'm approaching 30.

Every year.

You're seeing it start, huh? Yeah. Every year. You're seeing probably more of your friends getting married and shit, too. Yeah. 30 is like, oh, your boys are getting married.

Back in the Midwest, a lot of people are getting married. Out here, it's like, I mean, friends getting overdose and shit. That's the fact. It's unfortunate fact. Yeah. It's crazy to see every year, a lot of changes.

Something bad happens. Will you stay on the straight? No, you're good. And now you're working on a new album, right? And then are you on tour or no? It's a good transition. Yeah, I had to.

I am taking some time off from touring, man. I toured pretty much since I started rapping. I don't Besides a year during COVID, I've been pretty much nonstop touring, max three weeks off since 2018, besides that one year. And I'm finally chilling. I bought a house about a year and a half ago. Congrats. Thank you. Cheers. That's great. And I live with two of my best friends, and we have a dog. So I feel like a bad dog. What dog? He is German Shepherd Ossie Sheppard mixed with a little Rottweiler. His name's Hendrix. Hendrix? We found him in a dumpster. Seriously?

Here in LA?

Here in LA.

In a fucking dumpster?

I didn't find him. I was on a flight, but my roommate did. Oh, shit.

Yeah, he's a cutie. Who the fuck is putting dogs in dumpster?

It was dark, bro. I mean, that was the cuteest of a dog.

We just talked about that at lunch. People that hurt dogs. I said some weird dark shit.

Tattoo dogs and shit. Fuck that.

I said, I think people that hurt dogs. If you heard Bobby ask me if somebody killed my dog, would you kill them? I said, no. I would keep them hostage and torture them for a long time.

Somebody killed my mom. Yeah. I would do it for anybody. It depends on how they killed my dog. It was an accident.

No, I'm still going to I'm going to kill you. Yeah, you killed my dog. I'm going to kill you. Dude, isn't that John Wicks' whole story?

I think they killed his dog on purpose, though. Yeah, they did.

You never know what people's motives are, dude.

We also found this out.

Guess how many sharks are killed every year for human consumption? This is crazy. You won't even believe this. How many sharks every year are killed so we can eat them?

Who eats sharks?

Just like-Shark fin soup is really popular. Well, Asia, too. Asia eats the most wild shit. They eat everything. What was the dog number? The amount of dogs consumed. I think it was like 30 million. 30 million dogs?

What? I thought you said 30,000. 30 million. 30 million dogs are eating?

My dude. China has a billion people.

How many dogs are pets out there?

Oh, my God.

Google that. You know that Japan just became one of the first countries ever to have more cats than dogs as pets?

I saw that somewhere. I thought that was bullshit, but I was like, I guess-I believe it.

They have a fucking... Have you been in Japan?

Yeah, it's the best. They love cats. Dude, I love Japan. More than half the people in Asia own dogs, 59 %. And that's like a billion people. A billion people.

So it's like 200 million.

Also, you're talking about... You're talking only one portion of Asia. India is Asia, and India is another billion people. China is a billion. India is a billion.

India has been getting a bad rap lately.

The Internet has done this. Yeah, because the street food videos. There's that. But I I got to tell you, those street food videos, they fucking yuck me out of my mind, dude. They got cutting open bags with their show nails.

The poop fight?

Yeah, dude. The poop fight's bananas. We knew we need to start that here in the States. We do need a poop fight.

Yeah, we need to start doing shit. Our reputation was the worst for a while. We need to get back on that.

We got to get back to where we belong. Yeah, India gets a real bad rap. Do you have your been?

I would like to go, but- You'll go? I would like to go, but probably specific parts.

You can miss me with India. I'm not going to. You're never going to see me there, dude. I'm good, dude. I don't want dysentery. Every time you hear a story, it's like, someone goes there. Everyone I know has gone. It's like wildly sick for a while. They're like, that's a part of it, dude. The bacteria, you're not used to it.

I feel like there's so many Indians that have made their lives in the US that are fucking cool as hell.

They're killing it.

And it's like, I think they're genetically just... And culturally, they have this awesome background. They're cool-ass people, but the country is rough. But the Indians you meet here are fucking awesome.

Well, talk about a survivor mentality, right? People that move here, the Indian people that have immigrated here, they had fucking worked their ass off. So their achieving is through the roof because there is no show up, be lazy. That's a fate. You know what I mean? Anybody that immigrated this fucking country is most likely not going to be fucking lazy because they ballsed out to even get here in the first place. Indians, especially, because they pride themselves on education. And my neighbors, when we moved to the suburbs, my neighbors, Indian, great fucking people. And they're all gangsters, all super successful, smart. You know what I mean? Just like hard working, cool, good people. They have a lot of good core values, and I think they instill that here. The problem, I think, if you're going to go backwards with why India has some trouble is because it's an extremely overpopulated place. So it's riddled with poverty. So you have too many people. No one can help. It's too hard. There's not enough jobs, not enough work. Government can't help that at all. Then you're in the fucking street.

It's one of those things I think where the nice cities are just completely separate. Oh, totally.

We do that here, which is not as polarizing.

Yeah, but have you been to like, Dominican Republic is what I think of. Have you been there? Yeah. Where you're in the city and everything's super bogey, and then you go one block over and it's like, shit.

Yeah, it's bad.

It's hard to find that in the US.

It's not that bad. It's not that bad. No, ours is never that bad. It's less polarizing. But it is It does happen in a way here. I'll tell you where that was wild. We were in Sicily. Really? Yes, Sicily was amazing. And then when you drove out of the town square, you were like, there's a little sketch, dude. It got bad, like fast.

Italians and French people are just... They're connivy.

They're grimy gangsters, dude. They're grimy gangsters.

It'll be something little. I feel like theft and all that shit over there is pretty Yeah, dude. They're not going to kill you, but they're going to-No, they don't need to kill you, dude. They're going to fucking touch you and take your shit.

They'll fondle you and take your shit. You get assaulted by an Italian guy and then robbed at the same time.

Have you seen them spit game? When a dude from Spain or Italy or something is trying to spit game in the US, they have creepy game. They're always overly touchy.

Because it's culturally, that's chill over there. It's too much. Yeah, they They say wild shit. They'll say shit in front of your face to your wife or girlfriend, and you're like, what, dude? What is that about?

Yeah.

Good people, weird people. Wait, hold on. Hold on. How many sharks are killed every year for human consumption? This is going to fucking blow your mind.

Yeah. Because you said 30 million fucking dogs. One million sharks. 100 million sharks.

A hundred million.

I don't know if they have that many at all. I know. Ever. It's crazy.

Isn't that a true? But sit with that. That is crazy. Every year. I thought the video that Bobby was watching was fake. Me, too. I was convinced it was all shit. Because it was like 40 million pigeons or something. I was like, what?

So that's like, I mean, what? 300 something million people. 3,000?

3,600 people. So that's like one in three people gets a shark here. If it was on a scale of that. Yeah. It's a lot of fucking sharks. That shit's dark. When you read that, then you get creeped out. You're like, whoa, dude. How many chicken? What? It was like four billion. It was four billion chicken? Yeah. We were getting up in the billions for chickens and other birds.

All that shit's sad, man.

It is wild.

We can't change it. I'm not going to.

I got to keep on keeping on.

A nice rotissory chicken. I can't change what people are doing to them.

No, just eat them. Just fuck it up. Just move on. We're fine.

Can't go to waste. It's better than having it go to waste.

That's exactly right. We made too many of them now we got to eat them all. It's like at this point, what are you going to do? They're overpopulated. What would you do? If everybody went vegetarian, think how crazy that would be. What are you going to do with all these animals? They're going to overpopulate.

Well, they'd probably stop making them.

Even still, though, they're already in a huge population because they've made too many to stop. Do you know what I'm saying?

I start like a little chicken run. I start like a military. I guess some mercenary chickens and fucking do something.

Just put them on a boat, ship them out to India, dude. They'll accept. They won't fuck with a cow. Cows their dog. The way that we treat dogs, they treat cows. Cows are sacred for Hindus. For Hindus, right? Specifically. Yeah. The cow is sacred. I can't fuck with a cow because they're brilliant. They said they're really smart, and we shouldn't fuck with them.

I think Indians have some of the best food. They get bad. The videos aren't good.

Because you see the street food is not good. Like their actual Indian food from a restaurant?

Have you been to an Indian party?

Like a wedding?

Like anything like that.

Wedings are crazy. They're riding on a horse and shit.

I remember going to a grad party because in Rochester, where I grew up, was the Mayo Clinic.

Shout out to Rochester, baby. Shout out to Rochester.

Huge hospital. And it's the smartest best doctor's work there. So a lot of Indians. And I was going to grad parties and stuff where the white people grad parties, they have pulled pork. Starts at 4: 00 PM, ends at 8: 00 PM. Maybe you'll sneak a beer. The Indian ones, they start at midnight. You go in there, everyone takes their shoes off, and they have hard liquor. And it's like dad's dancing with high schoolers, like turnt the fuck up.

Yeah, bawling.

Doing Bungra dances, like spinning around and shit. It was insane. I was like, dude, you all are so much cool than us.

Indians know how to party like crazy. If you've ever seen an Indian wedding, it's insane. Hours and hours, and it's so opulent. Food and alcohol, and it's all pomp and circumstance. It's all the show. Everything's like a big show.

You want to see, you should look this up later. Beautiful, beautiful music video and song. It's Peter Catt recording company. They're based out of Mumbai, I think. They have a song called Floated By.

Floated By. Mark that down.

And the music video is Indian Wedding, and it is fucking amazing song, beautiful video. It's like one of my favorites. Okay. Just throw it in there somewhere at the link, and they'll change some people's minds. All right, we'll do that.

We'll put in the description down below so we can watch that. I just want to see the image of it. I'm already fucking with it.

Can you get a little volume on there? No. It's not going to fuck with us.

We'll get copyright as usual. Youtube, dude. Sharks. Google fucking stinks. They've made it everything so... Whatever. I get it. It's like everything else now.

It's interesting. I was on a live stream the other day. This guy Ludwig, gamer dude, really cool guy. A lot of people were watching, and we were playing guitar here at our rock band, and I watched the stream back. It's like, you can get like 20 seconds of a song, and then there's just silence. And it's like, it kills the purpose of the whole thing. Yeah.

We usually get clipped a lot. We fucked around. We goofed up. We would put in music of people that we... If I was you, unless I There's a way to do it now. We did it once. There's a rapper named Kaitlyn. I don't know if you know her, Plane Jane. Do you know that girl?

Wait, is she like the swaggy? Somebody was talking about her. Swaggy Whitechick. Swaggy Whitechick.

She's good, though. I like her. We had her on the show. We played some of her music, but she somehow had to let us license it. It was weird. Youtube let it happen.

My older, all my personal catalog. So I'm free off the label now. I was trying to get off for five fucking years, and I'm now a free agent. Everything I dropped before signing also I own. So if you want to put my music in here, I'm pretty sure that we could get any of those. And my OG shit is lit.

What's the label?

I was on Republic.

Right. And then now you're Free Bird.

Imperial and me.

And you'll never do a label again.

We'll see. I've had meetings, but I'm not going to give away my whole thing.

That's what they do. They take you for a ride.

I had so much fun at first when I could... I used TuneCore, which was one of the distribution things. I don't even know what the other ones are, but Stem is the other good one. You could just drop music whenever you wanted. I dropped music on Christmas Day. I dropped music, breaking all the rules now, apparently, are fucked up, but I'm one of the few artists that gets more streams on Christmas Day than anybody else. Why is that? Every artist goes down on Christmas Day because they're all listening to Mariah Carey and Bing Crosby. Sure. And me.

And the gravy goes up. And me. And the gravy goes up.

I got a notification about that. That's dope. One of 10.

With Mariah Carey. Yeah.

That's pretty cool. I put out some Christmas jams, and I've dropped projects right around that. Don't be scared to do what you're not supposed to.

Do your own shit. Don't be scared to do your own shit. I appreciate you, dude. It's wonderful to meet you. I want to say thank you to the fans listening. Enjoy the catalog. Listen to this. Watch this music video that we've got. And excited to see what you put out. That'll be cool. Taking some time off and doing your thing. We end the show the same way. You look into that camera right there. You say one word or one phrase to end the episode. Some people do a word, some people do a phrase of wisdom, something you want to leave the crowd with into the camera whenever you're ready.

It's sick. It's cute. This is where we're ending right now. Let me kill this. Before we go, do you have any friends in Mexico City?

In Mexico City? Yeah. No, but I'm going to go there in a couple of months.

I'm going there really soon. Really? I actually met... We can keep going. I met a girl at a party who's a big Mexican record sound singer, and we met I'm in a song together, and I'm going out there in two weeks.

Oh, two weeks. I'm out there way after that. I go in a month or two or something.

But I'm entering that world now, which I love. I love the Kareidos music.

Have you been to Mexico City before?

I've only been to Tulum.

Okay. That's the only place in Mexico you've been? Yeah.

Holy shit. I know.

You never went to Cabo or any of that shit?

No, I don't know. I haven't.

Got to go to Cabo at least once, man. That's fun. It's an easy flight. You're in LA.

So I'm in Mexico City for five days.

You're going to have fun. You're going to have so much fun.

I'm working on my Duolingo and everything.

Yeah. Ripping on the Duolingo. Okay, so one word or one phrase. Something powerful, poignant. Something that means something to you or some people just make a fart noise. It's ran the gambit.

You're good in the hat, by the way.

Thank you, bro. Well, thank you for the hat. I really appreciate this. This is great.

I just say something to everybody. Stop giving a fuck. Stop being pissed off at things. Shit happens. It's a sunk cost. What was the other term? What was the other thing you said? Sunk cost. I like that. If you bought something and it doesn't work, shit. It's gone. Sunkost. Sunkost. Sunkost. Someone pisses you off.

Sunk cost. You should name your album Sunkost. Sunkost, yeah. Sunkost.

Sunkost, baby. In here, we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey whiskey.