Transcript of The House That Stassi Built: Wednesday, August 5th, 2026

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Let's not get into that show. Like, that show was fucking weird. Um, welcome back to the show. Hope everybody's doing great. I haven't seen you in a minute.

I haven't seen you in a minute. You had a very busy day yesterday. I did.

I drove back to the today, which I have not done yet. I usually go like maybe a couple of times this summer, you know. I had a, you know, an engagement or a bris. Yeah, last time I went back for a bris. Yesterday I went back for like a kind of a catch-up day. Like, my apartment, it was a mess, so many boxes. We needed kosher meat, we were all out of food, so we had to go to the kosher grocery store. So Ben and I drove. Driving back, um, and forth in one day like is really crazy, but we got done everything we needed to get done. Being back in the city was crazy, you know. It's like 20 degrees hotter in the city. I was sweating my ass off the entire time. But we stopped for like a nice little party dinner on our way back. Um, we had sushi, sake. It was kind of like a party, party day.

Oh good, I'm so glad you enjoyed it.

Actually, it was mostly administrative, like getting things done for the home, but you know, I had to get a little treat in there.

Of course. I had a funny story to tell you actually that I didn't tell you and I wanted to tell you. Funny story. Yesterday Zach and Charlie were out and about. I don't know exactly where they were, and guess who they ran into?

Sebastian Barry McLard. No.

Bethenny Frankel?

No. Kelly Benzema?

I don't think you're gonna guess because it's like not at the tip of your tongue, but you're gonna be—

celebrity? Yeah, but you're gonna be excited because I was actually thinking we have not seen many celebrities this summer. Every summer we have like a couple of key— actually, we saw, um, Eli Manning. Yeah, we did, like briefly. But other than that, it has not been— okay, so like at lunch over the weekend, actually, I saw the guy running for governor, which like wasn't very exciting.

It's Blakeman.

Yeah, but I had to like do a lot of work to figure out who it was because I saw a Secret Service. I'm like, is someone here? And then like Ben overheard someone say that this guy's running for governor. So it wasn't really that thrilling.

Understood. I guess like sort of wherever we go, like, where are the celebrities?

So true. Okay, who do they say? Wait, just give me like a little bit.

An athlete.

An athlete. Dak Prescott?

No, you— someone that you're like—

you're Danilo Gallinari?

No.

Jalen Brunson?

Close.

Carl Anthony Towns. Close. Josh Hart.

Josh Hart.

You're kidding!

We saw Josh Hart, Zach, and Charlie.

Oh my God, did you tell Ben?

He will freak. No, I, I didn't because I didn't see you guys last night.

Wait, that's so crazy.

So crazy. And Zach was like, Charlie, it's Nicki. You know he loves basketball, right? Charlie was like excited, and Josh Hart like offered to take a picture with Charlie, but Charlie didn't want to take a picture. He didn't—

fucking serious?

Declined a photo with Josh.

Kill him. Wait, what? That's so nice, by the way. So Zach like went up and said like, hey, yeah.

And like, uh, he asked if like Charlie could take a picture with him and then Charlie declined.

Oh my God, I'm gonna kill that kid.

But Josh Hart was really sweet.

Oh, I wonder where they were.

I forget. I will find out.

Oh my God, I can't believe you guys didn't tell me this. I know, that's insane.

Isn't that cool?

Oh my God, Ben is gonna be so jealous.

I know.

Oh my God, that's very exciting.

I'll have to tell Ben like where it was so we can know like that's where you guys—

and I just want Josh Hart to know like you're a king for offering the photo.

Like it's on us for declining, for accepting the offer to take like But I think it reflects really well on him.

Did Zach take one with him?

No, nobody, like—

What's wrong with everyone?

As far as we know, like, did they even see him? 'Cause they did.

Sure, this sounds like a made-up story.

They did see him.

Yeah, we've seen like no celebrities. Mm-hmm. I'm trying to think. No, really none. Okay. It's usually gonna be okay. I mean, no, it's not.

It's gonna be okay.

Last summer when we ran into Sebastian Bear-McClard, like—

It sort of like made our summer.

It was a benchmark of sort of early summer.

Yeah, but speaking of like Bethany, we were invited to Influencer Hour at Supermodel Cafe.

Unfortunately we can't make it 'cause it's when we record the podcast. And when we told them that, like, we thought they would make other accommodations and they didn't seem to care. So I will have to miss out on her cottage cheese tuna salad. Um, but wishing her the best in her future business endeavors.

I will still try and go cuz I wanna eat the supermodel snacks.

Mm-hmm.

But I can't go during influencer hour, unfortunately.

Yeah. I just, I, I feel like as an actual supermodel, I don't need the snacks, you know? Cuz as I said, I'm an active duty model.

You are as a retired supermodel. I think you still need, you still need the snacks, what the girls are doing back in the field. Yeah.

So we'll see if we make it out there.

Yes. Um, other than that, yeah, we missed you yesterday.

It was hard to be away from my family for so long, and Ben was being so crazy, like driving. You know, it's always with Ben like a race against the clock. If the car says it's gonna— like the GPS, if it says it's gonna take 2 hours, so let's say Ben was like classic Ben, it says our ETA is 2:20, he said, I'll get you there before 2. Like, he always has a goal in mind and he will do anything to reach that goal. And he's driven back to the city like twice without me this summer, and I actually shudder to think what he did because a couple times I was like, you actually can't do that. Like, I'm all about, you know, cutting off, you know, a little of this, a little of that. He's crazy. Like, he will drive on the other side of the highway if there's no cars coming.

Like, yeah, seriously, we drive on the other side of that 1000%.

And anything just to shave a minute, like just one minute. And it was actually like a couple of times like a little bit scary. And I— and he went to the city like 2 weeks ago by himself and he was like, I made it back in under 90 minutes, which by the way, you guys, is insane. It's an insane time. And now that I'm thinking about it, I shudder to think what he had to go through to reach that time. He was being so crazy.

That's so crazy. But I'm glad because you got home at like a very reasonable hour.

He did make amazing time both there and back, so like I wasn't really complaining, I was just like shocked. Yeah, I know he's always like a crazy GPS person and he'll do anything to shave a minute. Like, he's so fucking crazy. It was on another level.

Okay, well, last night's warranted because like you guys need to get back. It was a long day, like not at midnight, of course. It was a long day. My episode of Storytime came out. Yes, I hope you all watched and enjoyed and shared it with your children. Listen, it's a podcast for kids, so like you can listen in the car with your kids. It's on YouTube so you can watch the video.

And cute little graphics of like the camper just like running around.

They animated the camper, like animated the camper. It's like high-def visuals of the book, and it's so great, so cute. You really get to like see the up-close details of the book.

Yeah, it was really cute. So if you haven't watched it yet, I didn't know they made like podcasts for children, but I guess like why not?

Yeah, that's like how we sometimes in the car listen to stories when it's like a Tony Yeah, like if they sometimes ask for like Paw Patrol story.

We're knee-deep in Tonyville over here, you guys. Do you guys—

we're having a party, a sandwich party, 5, 6, 7, 8.

I will say not all of the Tonys are great, but like whatever we have, I just like throw it in the playpen and they get played. So they're not like my choice, but it's not my Tony.

No, it's for the children.

They have like a lot of originals, um, in addition to like the characters that you know and love. And I will say like some of the originals, like the The songwriting is definitely lacking. Like Sandwich Party.

I think Sandwich Party is an amazing Tony.

It's not.

It's like a seagull, right? The duck, the—

yeah, it's all about if you meet a seagull at the beach, like don't give it your food.

It's a good message and it's a good song. You just sort of popped off with that.

Yeah, well, my version is obviously like pussy popping.

And you know my favorite Tony? Beethoven's Wig. Beethoven's Wig.

My favorite Tony is Brown Bear narrated by Gwyneth Paltrow.

No, I'm—

they get the Yeah, the Tonys get— they do get annoying, like when you play them so many times. And her voice, hers is long, and it annoys me the least.

No, I'm sorry.

Also, shout out the Velveteen Rabbit narrated by Meryl Streep.

Yeah, I don't know why you're kind of like just sort of like starry-eyed for celebrity Tonys. I don't feel—

you don't know why?

Because I guess you're like—

I'm like a starfucker loser. Yeah, okay. I don't know why you act like we just met.

I thought you would be like more about the music.

Like, no, because like for me, like a Tony that's narrated by a celebrity is like a convergence of me and Ruby's interests, I guess, but they're just like not the best ones.

I disagree, but we also love Maestro. That's something we— hello, music lovers! Yes, there are a lot of good Tonys, but we all just like quote them all day long. But you guys need Beethoven's Wig. It's like classical music, and the guy who like narrates it and he puts lyrics to all these like Beethoven songs, he reminds me so much of Ian Sterling. And even the song you were singing yesterday, do do do Yeah, he sings, I want my diploma.

That's funny. No, he also does—

I tried to tell you it's funny.

Here's a short Beethoven piano piece. This piano piece is for Elise. It's all about a fella named Maurice who went from Greece. Like, it's good. It's teaching kids Beethoven, but he's funny. He does remind me of Ian Sterling.

So funny. He has one song about sitting in traffic. So you gotta get Beethoven's wig.

Yeah. It's just been like a Tony girl summer.

It is a Tony— it's a Tony boy summer.

Oh right, All the Boys, right? I forgot.

Yeah, All the Boys.

Um, what are we doing today? Like, we need to come up with party lunch plans.

Oh, we were just discussing—

I'm so hungry.

Well, actually, I watched— started House of Sassy last night.

Is it a story? We just want to talk about it.

I just want to talk about it. I need to hear your thoughts.

I haven't finished it, but you got—

I've watched 2 episodes so far, and like, my— and I really have been itching to watch it because I've been seeing so much discourse online, and it seems like the sort of matter that I would like really find interesting.

Definitely. It's not what people thought it was gonna be. And it ends up like being like an actual like exposé on Stassi's life and like all of her relationships, both like friends and family.

Um, that's what I've seen so far. So right now I, and that seems to be like the theme, the, the theme is that like Stassi and Beau and like their marriage and this and that. So like, but watching it so far, I, I feel like, I don't know how to explain, like a little bit different than what I thought I was going to feel. Mm-hmm. Watching it. Um, It's definitely— they're, they're shaking up the genre a little bit with like the fourth wall stuff, which like shows have been doing for a while. Even in Secret Lives, like we hear the producer questions.

Yeah.

And they talk about who's filming, who's not filming. So like that's not like totally new to me, but, um, yeah, I'm a seasoned reality TV watcher.

That's true.

But, um, I thought it was really interesting. And like, I, I feel like I missed some stuff having not watched Vanderpump Villa because like the first test shoot fight is about this fight that Stassi and Beau seem to have had on Vanderpump Villa, that she won't get his tattoo, his name tattooed on her.

Yes, I didn't watch Vanderpump. I didn't get Vanderpump Villa either. I didn't watch Vanderpump Villa. But there's a lot of stuff also with his sister, Beau's sister, that I'm sort of riding blind on because I didn't watch that. And I know there's a thing about the tattoo, but like, I didn't watch it.

Like this huge fight at the villa that he got a tattoo of his sister's name. He has a lot of tattoos and he will not tattoo Stassi's name on him. And like, she flipped out, like, and then everybody gets pulled into their fight and they all saw like this side of her that they've never seen before. They were also scared. Yeah. And then the first, like, Teshu conversation is, like, everyone talking about their big feelings, like, from that night. But I, I do feel like I sort of missed that. But yeah, the dynamics, I'm, like, sort of catching up on. Like, the sister— it's also crazy that everyone has the same name. I was just saying to you that they sort of changed Taylor Donahue's name for the show to Teddy, and I'm like, I'm shocked because I know her as Taylor, and they're the Taylors.

Okay, I have to— so I've seen a lot of discourse about this, people being like, it's so weird that they changed her name. And I just want to say, they did not change her name. But if they did, I actually would have appreciated that.

Of course, the sisters have the same name.

Georgie, Georgiana, and Taylor and Taylor, like, yeah, and Beau and Beau. Oh, and Beau and Beau.

Everyone has the same name.

If, let's say that was the case, people need to stop giving them shit for it because it's actually respectful as fuck. But I have to tell you guys, literally 5 years ago when I was with the Taylors, somebody called Taylor Teddy, and I'm like, who's Teddy? And they're like, what are you talking about? Everybody calls Taylor Donahue Teddy. I'm like, no, we don't. Like, I've never called you that in my life. They're like, what are you talking about? Everyone calls Taylor Teddy. And ever since that day, like, Ben started calling her Teddy, and like sometimes I do too, because it does make it more effective method of communication. And you know what, everyone really does call her Teddy, especially Stassi and Beau. Like, whenever— I think that the Teddy nickname actually originated with like Taylor's LA friends, and when she goes to LA, it's not made up, but it never like hit mainstream.

Mhm.

And I think a lot of people are having trouble with it, but even if it was this like methodical thing, like, we should be appreciating that. It's very confusing.

Yes, it is confusing, and And so I understand why they did that. Now it seems like Stassi has like made this decision, like I've got my own show. So many people get their own show just to lose it because you know, it's fake and it's like not good.

And those people don't also have like sort of the backstory that she has, how this is like a big comeback. Yeah. So this like means a lot to her.

Yes. And most shows like aren't good.

Yeah.

And it's because like we feel the manufactured drama. Oh, we're gonna get a pet monkey.

Like, yeah.

And Stassi has like made the decision to bleed out. Everything about her life, the good, the bad, and the ugly. Like, for the sake of—

the name of their podcast, The Good, the Bad, and the Baby. The Baby.

Oh, his handle's the baby. But they don't do that one anymore, do they?

Oh, do they not?

I don't think so, because now it's just Sasha. It's her podcast has evolved over the years. But she's made the decision, like, if you want to, you know, tell me something mean about myself, do it on camera.

Like, and there's no conversation that's off limits. Like, even, you know, her even her as a mom, which like I would think is a conversation that's like—

I haven't like seen some of that stuff yet, but so they start filming the show and it's— you can see like Beau is like unhappy a little bit and he goes to talk to Taylor Strecker and he starts crying. And then Taylor Strecker goes to Stassi and like, by the way, Taylor Strecker is just like moving like such a queen.

She's making us proud. And she— and you know what, I feel that like who she is in real life is actually translating really, um, honestly. And like, I think she's getting a lot of shit because she's talking about how like, you know, Taylor Donahue has to go back to New York.

I haven't gotten there yet, but like, she's weighing missing the birth of— and I just want to say, every time I see a clip, I like make a judgment, and then when I see it in the context of the show, I just— it— everything feels different. I just like feel different watching the show. Even like Katie and Stassi, which remind me, I want to get back to that. So Taylor goes to Stassi and says like, your husband cried to me, and Sassy is floored.

Yeah.

She didn't know her husband was unhappy, right? That he was thinking anything, that he felt this way, that he never once really said to her recently, like, I do wanna go back to work. And so she says like, of course, like having an unhappy husband, like this isn't really a great time. Like we're filming a show.

Of course.

But we've already started filming. So like, you know, here we go. Like, let's get into all of it. And I, I really can't imagine a world where like Beau would not would ambush Stassi, consult Stassi and be like, we're gonna talk about this. Yeah.

Or that she truly had zero clue that he's not super happy, or just like the dynamic that they've set up where he is like a stay-at-home dad isn't working for him. Like, this is the first time you're hearing that? No, but it does make very interesting— and I will say, like, yeah, she's going where really nobody is going. A lot of these conversations are so private.

She's going where no one has gone before, like, for a reason. Yeah, there's a reason why no one has gone there before.

It's so personal.

And but I think it's also like a to how strong she believes her relationship is, that they can get through, that they can withstand this. They can have their like ugly warts-all conversations on the show, but like there's no doubting that they will be together. So I think it's a good way to look at it, a sign of strength. It's confusing.

Yeah, for me it's just confusing because like before, I know like she has this need to come back, right? Like she was the queen of Vanderpump Rules and it got taken from her. Like the fact that she's coming back now with her own show on like a bigger platform, like it's such a slay. I totally get it. But to me it's like she's bleeding out, sharing like so many dark parts of her life and just like private things that she really doesn't have to because she had made a successful comeback in my eyes before this. Like, the podcast is huge, it's on Netflix, people just love her. Her books— I think she's written 2 since she left Vanderpump Rules.

Like, she has 3 books total.

Fashion Week. Like, she's just like— she's just that girl. Like, you honestly— when they were never gonna keep her down, right? So to me, she has had like an insanely successful comeback already. I can't really understand why like you would want to now open up all these, like, just so— no, everyone's judging, like, her as a mom and her as a wife and her as a friend. And it's like, I know she wants it so bad, so like, I respect it. Like, I could never imagine, like, successfully coming back. And like, to me, like, that would have just been enough. But I guess she has this, like, insane itch for reality TV because that's really how she got her start.

Yeah. And like, for her, that's like the, the peak of the mountain is like being on TV. Having your own show is the peak. Having us getting a spin-off, like, from Vanderpump Rules. And so I understand why that's what she wanted, and now that she has it, she's not going to lose it. Because like, people get shows often and they amount to not much, but she's not gonna— I think they already have a season 2. She's giving the show like absolutely everything that she has. I also want to say, I think the title is like— the name of the show is so perfect. Yeah, like seriously, Toasty Lions. Yeah, of course we know she loves Game of Thrones, House of Sassy, but like everyone's like living in her house. Everyone orbits around her. It is like the House of Sassy. I also don't understand how she has this huge house and her two sisters are living with her, Georgie and Georgina, and they're both like sleeping in a Murphy bed in what looks to be like an office in the basement. There is not another bedroom in this huge house.

I guess not.

No, but they're not in there.

This is so big. No, I know. Wait, can you just— you said you wanted to talk about Katie.

So I was like, I roll Katie and Stassi, and they build it as the fact that like, you know, there's nothing like Katie and Stassi on TV together.

And I'm like, where it's like, I more so come from the camp of like, there's nothing like Stassi on TV together. Katie like never moved the needle for me.

Same. Satan. That's exactly how I felt. I'm like, I don't need Katie. I don't need this like tie back to Vanderpump to like make this work for me. However, like, I don't know, Katie just like, like, she like looked good, she felt good, she talked very clear that Katie is a, is in a happy place in her life, and that is coming through like all facets.

I think she's in a really good relationship, and I think that like Vanderpump Rules ending for a lot of people was like devastating. For her, it was kind of like the best thing. It got her away from Tom, and I think we were used to seeing her for like the last decade on TV like she was just an unhappy person. She was in a bad marriage. Like, they were having a lot of problems. So yes, it is— she's not as like fabissima as we remember her.

No, but— and she, she does— she has like a different, you know, vibe. She's not swirling. Like, she's her— no, she's not swirling sort of energy. But I don't know, she felt very solid, and I was like happy to see her. They were sort of like talking about the time in between Stassi getting fired, right, and then them stopping being friends. And the way that Stassi described it, it's like tea, you know, because she was like— she sort of felt like 'Cause Katie was always talking about Vanderpump, and it's like, I was fired and I want to be there and I can't be there. And like, you're just over here being like, oh my God, this and that. And she was like, I was crying to you about postpartum stuff and you're just like talking about Vanderpump. Vanderpump. And Katie didn't even remember that conversation. And Stassi's like, that's the point. Like, you weren't listening. And I do think at that time, like, those two people can't be friends, just different places. But then I think once you— and they said it's actually good that we weren't friends for a while because we both got to like grow and become who we are.

And like, these two like mature, whole women can be friends with one another.

You know, Stassi's done a lot of press, but she did not do Watch What Happens Live, and I don't believe that since leaving she's been on Watch What Happens Live. But like Kristen had been on before she was on The Valley, like she eventually like, you know, came back into the fold. I do wonder like what the relationship is like. They were— they did like a huge press day at SiriusXM because Taylor Strecker was like freaking out, and they didn't do Radio Andy. Um, I do feel like there is bad blood between Bravo proper and Andy— or excuse me, and Stassi in the show.

Probably. They don't use footage from Vanderpump Rules. Everything that's like talking about Stassi's like come up is all photos. Um, I mean, she did like leave NBC and now she's in the Disney family.

Bravo like had— has historically like let go of so many people that they like, oh, it's so unserious. Like they just bring them back. They like, you know, fire them because the fans are mad or like there's like, you know, lots of drama, but they always come back.

But they don't have like the Secret Lives stars on Oh, I watch— I was like, you know, I think it's more so the network drama versus like Stassi versus Bravo.

Yeah, but up until even before Stassi was like a Hulu swirly, she was not on Watch What Happens Live, like doing her— when she was promoting her tour or her books or— yeah, I just think it's interesting. I would love to know like what the— there's definitely drama there.

Yeah. Also then there was like a conversation about Sheena. Sheena's come up a couple times and like it's actually crazy to me that Sheena is actually Stassi's opp in real life. Yes, that the name Sheena even still comes out of her mouth. I thought it was just like an old co-worker that she doesn't—

I mean, we all forget that, like remember that storyline when Stassi had I don't know if it was like a sex tape or like nude photos, but like Sheena was like the one showing it to everyone, like not leaking it, but like, yeah, allegedly she was the one who was like sending it around. So it's like, yeah, that's your op for fucking life.

Yeah, but like when Jesse Draper comes in, it's like, see, you tried to get on Secret Lives. I'm like, Sheena, I know, I didn't like— why are we talking about— like, why are we giggling, snickering about Sheena?

I have like—

we have our own show now. Why are we talking about Sheena?

I have conflicted feelings about Sheena because like, yeah, it's like funny, everyone's always like making fun of her, but I actually do feel like she's like a girl, like she has grown up and she's like a sweet girl. And I think she's always the butt of the joke. So when Jesse Draper came on, I was just like kind of like, like I kind of hated that.

Yeah, I didn't—

I feel like Jesse Draper was just like saying it because it's like a joke now. Like there, there's a tsunami in Africa and people are like, well, what does Sheena Shay think? It's like a joke that she makes everything about herself. And I just feel like Jesse Draper was just kind of like, like hopping on the train of like making fun of Sheena and just kind of felt like low like, I feel like Stassi has a legitimate gripe with Gina, and if she wants to talk about her on her show, like, go for it. But like, Jesse Draper just bringing that— I didn't love.

Yeah, I just didn't know why we were talking about Gina. Like, we've come so far and like, we're so high up. Yeah, we're so high up. Um, and then there's also this theme that like, Stassi and Beau are kind of on the outs with everyone in their life, like Georgie the sister, Rob, Beau's friend Rob. And it's like, they're starting the show and they want these people on the show. And Katie, she was on the outs with. And so it's like mending. We want to mend so that you'll be on our show. And also, like, where— like, what happened to all your friendships and relationships? And I do want to say, like, when you're a parent of young children, like, those sort of—

it's not a priority.

They cool off for a period, but not to a point where, like, you need to have, like, you know, conversation, reproches. It's just, like, a matter of timing and logistics. So it's, it's odd to me that sort of everyone's been sort of pushed away.

Oh wait, can we talk about Christina Kelly?

I, I haven't really seen her yet.

Yeah, I like— I have one memory of Christina Kelly on Vanderpump Rules because she was like a very much a side character, and I think that's even like an overestimation of her contributions to the show. Um, and the one scene I remember is like when Gina was getting married, she wasn't invited, and she's like sitting at her house giggling, like making fun of Gina's dress. It was like truly the definition of mean girl, and I have never been able to see her as anything other than that.

I think the whole world feels that way because she had come on the show so many other times in the future, like and never was a cast member, never was chosen by Bravo. Like, I think everybody, when she goes for Q score testing, is like, the crop top.

Yeah, the crop top. And I think that's like sort of an underlying thing of her beef with Katie, is like she's almost like 50 feet from stardom. Like, she can't quite get there. And I think that this show was like, you know, to be on it as a cast member, like, finally I'm gonna get my shot. And then Katie comes and it just sort of demotes her because like, yeah, Christina Kelly was like the one remaining link from Vanderpump Rules, It's hardly a link. She was barely on the show. Katie coming on just really eradicated the need for Christina in general.

Except that Christina is actually Stassi's friend.

Yes, and there's like history there and they have interesting like arguments and stuff because they have a real friendship, but I just— she doesn't do it for me.

Yeah, so my takeaway at this moment is just a shock that someone is willing to share this much like personal details of their life, their family, their friendships, their children, their everything, family dynamics, like everything, like in service of success.

Yeah, I think though that, um, like becoming like the female, the breadwinner in your house as a woman, like I, I think maybe not on the exact same level, but I think it's kind of a relatable thing for some women who are the breadwinners where like their husbands like don't know what to do with themselves. And like it's obviously like the whole male ego gender stereotype type thing, but then it's also, it's like, well, it's lovely that you want to go back to work, but like why wouldn't you take care of the kids? I'm not going to, like I'm the one paying all the bills. So it's like, it's very harsh.

She like says to him, I will pay you to not go back to work because I can pay you more than your job.

And I just want to say like, well, I, I love a man who wants to work. Like, I, I think that that's good and all men should work all the time. Um, like his obsession with going back into casting when like you could work with Stassi, like you, and it would be so much more financially beneficial, fruitful, than going into casting, which like I don't think he slang at before.

No, he said he was— he had a 17-year career.

Sorry, compared to— I'm talking money. Yeah, compared to Sassy, like, because we're at a different level now. So it's like, at some point it's opportunity cost, right? It's like, great that you feel good, but, but at what cost? So that was like— it's like frustrating. But I think it's like, it's sort of in its own way relatable to other women who are the breadwinners.

Yes. And it's funny because she goes to an Unwell event and she's like talking to Alex Cooper and she was just like, you know, they're complimenting each other and whatever. And then she was like, where— what areas in your life are you struggling? Because like, I'm a bad wife, I'm a bad friend, I'm a bad sister. Like, where— what areas suffer for you?

That's really funny.

And Alex was like, you know, it's giving like, I have bad breath in the morning.

Yeah, she was like— but also like, Alex is notoriously like, she doesn't really share. So it's like, I'm certainly not gonna share on your show what's wrong with my life.

She said that she has health issues, like her health. She does have gestational diabetes in her pregnancy, but maybe it's like she gets sick a lot, you know, like low immune system, maybe like autoimmune. But yeah, it was And so like, um, it was just sort of funny cuz obviously she's not gonna tell us right now, right here, or at all, this idea that like something always has to suffer.

Right. Which I think is true for a lot of working women.

Something always has to suffer at the altar of greatness, you know? Yeah. I think if you wanna like say yes to everything in your career, things will, at home will suffer.

Yes.

Things, something is going to suffer if you say yes to everything in this bucket. Yeah. You know, if you wanna have a more balanced life, you take some things out of that bucket and you put them into other buckets. But if you're going, going, going the way that like Alex is and that Stassi is, something will suffer. Alex at that point did not have children, so, you know, you have a little—

it's a different—

a lot more— not even a little more, you have complete focus. Your husband works with you, you guys, so you're spending all that time together. It's different. Yeah, but it was just funny, like, what's suffering for you today?

Let's dive in.

I feel like we kind of did, but yeah, it wasn't a story, but yes, let's dive into the fast 5 stories that Yiddish do need to know.

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Our first—

Don't you mean grocery turd teddy?

No, I mean Taylor. Okay, our first story, crazy, crazy saga. Last night, Perez Hilton was rushed to the hospital after live streaming an apparent self-harming video in his Miami home. So last night, Perez Hilton went live on TikTok for about 30 minutes, which he does like all the time.

That's like his new— for a while now, like, he's like a TikToker.

Yeah. And, um, It was about 30 minutes. He was naked and covered in blood, cutting himself up with a knife.

And he had like a, like literally like a sourdough knife, like a bread knife, slicing himself, chopping. I saw the video.

He was chopping himself.

Don't go looking for it, it's deeply graphic and like very disturbing. Um, I believe like police were called to his home.

Yes, they received multiple calls of an individual live streaming acts of self-harm on social media. When the cop, like he said, call the cops, I want them to you know, shoot me dead.

Yeah, he was really—

and then he was taken to the hospital where he is now recovering. Yeah, I didn't— I saw like a little bit of the—

it's really, I think, gross.

Like photos or like the videos that I saw were like very blurry, so it's like you get the idea of like what it is, but I don't need to see that all up close.

Um, I hope that, you know, like people are giving, you know grace. And like, this is a person who has, you know, at people's worst moments, like, gone so low. I think like people— like his worst— people always love to bring up Britney Spears, like when she was having her— like, there's so many. And so, you know, I, I hope he doesn't, you know, receive from people what he has historically given. This is a very hard topic to discuss, honestly, if I'm being serious. Like, this is a person who's just like caused so much hurt, myself included.

Yeah, an awful person.

He is an awful person. But like, awful people like don't deserve to like, you know, struggle. I don't honestly— seriously, I don't know what to say. Yeah, um, I wish him the best and I hope he gets the recovery that he needs. He is a dad, he has 3 kids, and like, that's really like the priority, and that's scary.

But like, yeah, I had read the kids were not home at the time, which thank God, because I, I mean, people were watching this millions of miles away scared. Imagine like seeing it in person. I actually can't even imagine. So thank God that they were not there.

I hope he gets the help he needs. I think like public life is bad for him. I think it's been bad for a while.

Whatever led to this is addressed best as well.

Yes, like, just, I, I really just wish you the best.

Yeah, yeah, I agree. Um, this next story is really exciting news, and I just, I'm really excited for you, okay? The Voice, oh, Celebrity Edition has been greenlit at NBC. So The Voice is currently in production.

Don't even start.

Voice Celebrity, which will see actors, musicians, influencers, athletes, comedians.

I actually know someone who's on it.

Who?

I don't know if I can say it.

And reality TV stars competing instead of Undiscovered Talent. So it's like The Voice show, except instead of, you know, Undiscovered Talent, it's people like— perfect. Yeah, it's people like the person she just told me, and people like Claudia. It's people like Claudia.

I just want to say, I have not been reached out to. Do not come.

Don't you guys—

don't ask me because I'm gonna feel like I have to do it. It, and I really don't want to. Like, my— I'm good. Um, I love this concept. I love when like traditional shows do celebrity versions, like Celebrity Family Feud. Um, and there are a lot of celebrities— like, I guess if you're an actor or whatever, like you're a theater kid, so like, yeah, if almost all of them—

so you're like comfortable being on camera. Like, Remy Bader has a really good voice. I think Alex Cooper has a really good voice.

He does.

I, I think I'm maybe the only one in this field who doesn't have a good voice.

Taylor Strecker has an amazing voice. Do you know that about her? No.

Oh my gosh, by the way, it makes complete sense. Like, yeah, it's like theater kid, theater kid. Like, you've always liked the spotlight because you've always like been good for the spotlight because you have a nice voice. And then, you know, being a pop star or an actress doesn't work out for you, and it's like, pass me the mic.

Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, press record. Yeah. Um, I love this concept. I'm so curious who they're gonna cast. I hope this becomes like a Dancing with the Stars type of thing. Like, I love shows like this, like, yes, where it just becomes a place for like actors on their way up, on their way down, uh, reality TV influencers, like just another place like Traders or Dancing with the Stars.

So I love it.

I wonder if they're exclusively going to be casting good singers because I feel like with The Masked Singer that was their goal, but then like eventually you run out of people who can sing and you start casting like Teddy Mellencamp.

So The Voice in general does not cast bad singers. Yeah, there's never like a dud audition. Um, it's just there might not be amazing, but most of the time someone does turn. It's not meant to like expose people who can't sing. So I think it will be people who can carry a tune.

I, I like Let me tell you, I'll be sad. Like, I love this.

I love it too.

I love it as a viewer. I would like— I think it's such a good idea.

Yeah. Um, maybe Ben could do it.

Ben actually has a fine singing voice.

Yeah, you know, he'll audition with you. Raise me up.

He's like— he always starts in the wrong key. He's like, when I am down. And actually, when he gets going, it's very powerful.

Okay, maybe this will change things for you.

Have they announced any of the contestants?

One of the coaches will be Joe Jonas.

Oh yeah, Queen— that's not gonna change it for me. Queen Latifah. Like, yeah, if I can be guaranteed to be on Queen Latifah's team and—

wait, is it like The Voice?

Is it like The Voice where you go and like, what if nobody turns for you?

Yeah.

Oh, I can't. No, I would never. Yeah, you know, I have such a fear of rejection when it comes to singing. Yeah, that's why I had to bow out of Masked Singer before.

But if you wanted to like be close with Joe Jonas, like, now's your time.

Yeah, but I would be taking the process seriously when I feel like who could actually help me musically, like It's Queen Latifah. We have similar voices.

Mhm. And then also—

'Cause I'm big, blonde, and beautiful.

Also, major voice news is that Keke Palmer will be the new host of The Voice.

Oh my God, I saw that Carson Daly was backing out, but they were clickbaiting me on the Today Show Instagram. Tap the link in our bio to find out who's replacing. And so obviously I didn't, so I never was able to find out.

Well, here you go.

That's such great news. Wait, I'm so happy.

Yeah, even though like The Voice is not about the host.

Like not at all.

I, I didn't I really barely remembered that it's Carson Daly. So I just—

and that's how you know he's doing a good job.

Yeah, because like a host is just like the background. Um, so I kind of like would like her to be somewhere more where it is about her.

But yeah, but anything that keeps her booked and busy, that's good, you know? Because I don't want her to get like— you know, when you're bored, then you like rely on your man a lot, and it could be bad for a relationship. So hopefully if she stays booked and busy, like Sean and her are just like—

or maybe this like brings her to LA, and maybe Sean's in LA because she was previously in New York.

Week. Um, I saw this and I wasn't sure. I was like, I wasn't sure if those guest celebrity judges were the judges for the new season of The Regular Voice.

Very confusing. I'm like really trying to understand.

What's the show called?

The Voice Celebrity.

I feel like they could have done better with that.

Yeah, I'm very excited. I agree, it's like another tier of shows that—

yeah, Traders, Dancing with the Stars— like for people to just go on—

Masked Singer. But like Masked Singer is flawed in the sense that like you don't get the press until you're done.

Of course, you know, when someone's working so hard on TV and nobody knows it's you. You do this whole show, which is why I was like, could we make the clues really obvious so like everybody knows that it's me?

You do this whole show and your name's not in the paper once until the end, until the end, and then you're gone and the headline's all about you quitting. Like, so this I actually think is like a better format. I agree.

I completely agree. Um, I'm not doing it. And if I were, here's how I would audition. What would I audition with? They could just watch me on The Masked Singer.

You could do Unstoppable. I like that song for you. I could.

I don't want to sing right now.

Oh, she shy. But also, hopefully this show is very successful and maybe in like 10 years when you're ready for it, right?

When everyone's grown and I'm ready to take on new projects.

Yeah, then you could do it and it would be like a big success.

I just want to say like good job to everyone who did this. I love it. I hope the casting is like on point. Mm-hmm. Even some of the people— Remy Bader should be on it. She's a very good— like, I want them to include— people are so afraid of, like, casting influencers. Like, no, we love that.

Like, yes, more. Yeah, like athletes, that's fun.

Yeah, it's fun, but they can never sing, so yeah, they have to do like— yeah, they have to pull from all pockets of media. So yeah, give us an athlete, some Real Housewives.

Oh, I'm sure we'll get—

Kandi Burruss is on there.

Well, she's— no, not Kandi Burruss. We'll get like Luann.

Okay, did you see that they had that Real Housewives, like, 20th 25th year anniversary party last night. Yeah, Luanne is so funny. Our friend Kristen was there. I was watching her Instagram stories, and like, Luanne is just like seriously singing her own song to a crowd of 3 people.

They all were. Lisa Barlow was singing Baby Gorgeous.

Let me tell you, Portia was singing Baby Gorgeous with Lisa Barlow, just like being a supportive background dancer, and she knew every word. I actually was like very touched by that. That's very sweet. Yeah, not just— I only know the first 3 words. You're just baby gorgeous.

Forward.

I think Baby Gorgeous is like a hyphen.

Well, I can't wait to watch.

I can't wait to watch. When does it premiere?

Fall, probably. I don't know if it's this fall, but I guess why not?

Is it live, like we're all voting live?

No, it's the same format as The Voice.

The Voice is live.

Oh really?

The auditions are pre-taped, and then when they have like the top 20, we vote every week like American Idol.

Okay, there will be new features though in this one, such as Voice Boot Camp, which will give viewers a behind-the-scenes look as celebrities prepare for their blind auditions. Okay, cute. We get more like celebrity pack, whatever. Well, the VIP room will bring the artists together to watch their fellow celebrities sing. So it's like—

no, I'm so sad for this.

Yeah, me too.

I'm excited.

Yeah, me too. Okay, are you ready for our next story?

What number?

3.

Yeah.

Brittany Cartwright is finally weighing in on Jax Taylor's publicist romance with a scathing takedown. So Brittany Cartwright did a video with People magazine, and she talked about the relationship. She said, I never wish bad for anybody, but they have to be absolutely miserable, and I hope they are.

She said, I don't wish bad on anybody, but I hope they're miserable.

I feel like I was taken advantage of by those two individuals, and it is sick. Later in the video, she labeled him a narcissist who doesn't have feelings and claimed that he had straight up told an unnamed person that he had slept with Lori. Um, he— she said, I've never seen a snake like this before in my entire life, seemingly referring to Lori KPR.

Yeah, I mean, like, I hate to put more blame on the woman, but like, Jax and her are divorced. He's been a piece of shit. Like, we know that he was so awful abusive to her. Like, my bar for expectations for Jax when it comes to like giving Brittany like a modicum of respect. He almost let her get evicted from the house with their son. Like, he's a piece of shit. But like, this working woman who was still like actively collecting checks from Brittany, that's insane.

Yeah, and that she would tarnish her name so thoroughly because she has other clients.

Of course, she's like a pretty well-known reality TV publicist.

And then do you see the Smartwater thing?

I did see the Smartwater thing. So Jax Taylor had posted on Instagram um, ad for Smartwater, the water brand. And then he went on his Twitter claiming that like his Instagram was hacked by an AI company.

No, so he posted an ad for Smartwater and like people were like, you're not doing ads for Smartwater.

It's like a really top-tier brand.

Yeah, of course. I think Smartwater like might have even said like, this is not us. And then he shared like he got sort of catfished by a marketing company. He shared the screenshots of the emails and like all the stuff to say that like he thought he was doing an ad for Smartwater and he was fooled. It was not a prank but just scam. But I have a couple key questions.

But wait, also people then noticed that that screenshot he shared of the fake email he got was, um, like generated by AI. It had like an AI logo in the corner, like he had asked AI to make it for him, or Oh, he had asked AI to make it for him, or like someone AI sent it to him? It's gone now, so you don't— you can't see it.

Interesting.

Yeah, that's what I had heard.

Okay, well, a couple things. Like, one, you're dating a publicist. Like, if this is like a phishing scam, like, the fact that she couldn't see through it, like, doesn't really speak highly.

Correct.

Of her work too. Like, did they pay you, you know?

Um, yeah, I'm not sure. That was funny. Yeah, but then you have to remember, like, a lot of the people from Vanderpump Rules are like over 40 years old.

Yeah. Oh, you mean like that? This is like boomer behavior, I guess. And then he was like saying about Brittany, like, because Brittany went on and like laughed at him about it.

Good.

And he was like, you know, she's not mean enough to him, honestly.

She's not. Him like letting the mortgage payments pile up and like forcing Brittany to live in the Airbnb with Cruz while he's lapping it up with girls in their family home. Like trash. Yeah, trash behavior.

Yeah, but I do think like for him, all the chickens have come home to roost, really.

Like, you think like his— the— he has—

the consequences of his actions have finally caught up in some sort of way.

I don't think so.

No longer on the show.

That was a huge loss for him.

He's not getting brand deals.

No.

All he has now is a girlfriend.

Cameo and a dream.

And a girlfriend.

I mean, as long as you have a good woman in your life.

Yeah, but like, if she can't earn a living either, right?

Right. But over the years, they've made so much money.

I was thinking about that with Katie Maloney too, because on the one hand, those OG asking you to come like be on her show and you're acting like, I just got away from reality TV, like I can't go back. It's like, if you're a reality TV star, an influencer, a notable person, like that's a dream is to be on a show. Yeah. And how are you affording to like not work? Yeah, but she made a lot of money over the years. Did she spend a lot of money?

So those like OG Vanderpump castmates like Sheena Um, towards the end, we're making so much money, and they never like lived insane lives. A lot of them were like living in those apartments up until like 3 years ago, and they got like homes in the valley. But, and that was like after they had been making a lot of money for a long time, and I think like mortgage rates were low. Yeah, I do think like it runs out quickly, but I don't think Katie Maloney's in a place where she's like desperate yet, but she would be silly to turn it down.

Yeah, I wonder if she like saved her money over the years, because if she did, she has a lot of money.

Well, they had that house, right? Her and Tom.

Yeah.

Yeah, which they sold it. Yeah, they definitely did well on that house.

They did fine. They definitely didn't lose money. And again, it was like low mortgage rate. That's why what was also so crazy about Jackson Brittany, when he was like— she was saying he didn't pay the mortgage or whatever, but when they bought their houses, like seriously, like 2% interest rates. So I'm like, how much could your mortgage be, right? But then it turned out he had taken out second and third mortgages to pay off old debts. Their mortgage payment was up to like $18,000 a month when it should have been like $2,000 max.

Oh my God, that's terrible.

Yeah.

Does she still live in that house or did they sell it?

I don't know. I feel like she lives there. I feel like she lives there. And also like for the valley and everything.

Yeah, right, she has to be in the valley.

But they were like such in a good financial position that he totally fucking squandered.

Hate. Kind of like Dear Toasters yesterday.

Yeah, sort of. But no, this is worse.

Yes, this is worse.

So yeah, I don't know how to end the stories anymore.

I feel that that's a real issue for many Americans. Um, and speaking of Erika. Today's episode is brought to you by Starbucks. It is, uh, Starbucks time because pumpkin spice is on its way. So summer is of course so busy, and after a long summer of fun, we want to return to our routines, right? Like, we're getting back to work, we're going to kick off fall with the fall traditions that we love, get into that comfortable rhythm again. And nothing is more comfortable than pumpkin spice at Starbucks. Everyone's talking about it. Starbucks pumpkin spice is like the first taste of fall. I feel like once you see that Starbucks has rolled out their pumpkin spice it's time to put your plaid on, it's time to go apple picking, it's time to do all of our fun seasonal— create vibes, make a chili, parji.

Ugh, gaji parji fall.

And there's such a joy, don't you find, in returning to that routine? Like, obviously, Swirly Summer is so fun, but I feel that pumpkin spice kicks off like a return to self.

Yes. And like, routine is really the antidote to excess, I would say.

Routine. That's beautiful.

And I would say therefore pumpkin spice is the antidote to summer.

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I'm looking forward to sweaters without everyone's judgment.

I'm looking forward to sweaters without a comment section.

Yeah.

I'm looking forward to all of the fun offerings over at Starbucks and their pumpkin spice.

Of course.

I'm looking forward to making chilies. Yeah, maybe like a fire. I don't have a fireplace, but like maybe I will find one.

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Football.

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Okay, our next story. Rumors are swirling that Bradley Cooper and Gigi Hadid are married. They were spotted wearing matching wedding rings. Sources are saying it's a declaration of their love, but Pete, Daily Mail is saying like they got married last month.

Like, I don't care. Um, these two as a couple like do nothing for me. Um, I also think that like, this is what you do, like, when people care about your relationship so much that you get no privacy. Tom Holland and Zendaya, like, if they ever were planning an actual wedding, it would be like— seriously, people are so obsessed with them— it would be like Taylor Swift and Travis, like, the hiding, the drones. Nobody cares about Bradley Cooper and like Gigi Hadid getting married. Like, you want to get married, go have a wedding. No one's coming. Like, so I think that this is like kind of for attention.

You think so? I don't think they want attention.

No, I think they do.

I don't know. I think— I guess they're married because I would personally like never—

kind of how like with Christina Kelly, the only thing I can remember about her is that really mean thing she said about Gina Shay. To me, the only thing I can really— like, I never moved on from the restaurant of him doing that movie, like Maestro, when he was just like trying so hard to win an Oscar and like nobody cared. And they also wore the fake nose, which was just like low-key antisemitic. But like, listen, I wasn't that upset. Like, I just— to me, that made him a loser in my eyes, and I never was able to see him as anything other than that, as a loser.

I guess I just sort of like expected that he'd be like the sort of guy who, you know, have relationships, different relationships. Yeah, cuz he always has like a relationship that seems good, like Irina and Suki, and now he's like straight up wearing a wedding ring, which I think like getting a wedding ring on a guy like this like is a big deal, an impossible feat. So he's not doing it like for vibes, cuz I don't think he wants to be wearing—

that's actually a good point, like his bachelor status, that does make this a big deal. Yeah, um, like seriously, I wish him the best. Like, I, I don't know, they just— there are a couple of people like like when we talk about like Kim and Lewis Hamilton, like I should care. Like obviously Bradley Cooper is finally married, oh my God, hearts are breaking everywhere. I don't care. Yeah, some things just don't move the needle for me. Yeah, heart rate like remains resting.

I agree, but they have been together for a while, so if you want to go ahead and get married, like that seems like the thing to do.

And I just like— this co-parenting group is gonna be a lot because it's Bradley and Irina, Irina, Zayn. It just feels anywhere Zayn is, it just feels like drama. Um, hopefully he doesn't push Bradley Cooper's mother down the stairs.

Hopefully he doesn't. Then like Lady Gaga, you know, Lady Gaga, right?

Like it's just kind of a crazy group.

Yeah.

And I'm wishing them all the best.

Yeah, agreed.

One of the best times of my life was when we had to like report for that week, like every new detail that was coming out about the alleged elder abuse from Zayn Malik and Yolanda deed.

Yeah.

And then Gigi got back together with him one more time after that, right?

I think so.

That's crazy to like lay with the man who pushed your mom down the stairs.

He was accused of elder abuse. I act like— there are some egregious things to be accused of. That is—

elder abuse is up there with like the worst.

Yeah, like pedophilia and child abuse. Yeah, cuz it's like preying on the vulnerable, you know? Yeah, of course, those who can't defend themselves.

Absolutely.

Yeah, quarterly reminder that he was accused of that.

Just quarterly.

Um, are you ready for our fifth and final story? I am. Khloé Kardashian's new show The Girls gets a trailer and a premiere date at Hulu. So we knew that Khloé was producing a show called The Girls about her best friends, you know, the girls we all know who have like 3 million followers, are always with the Kardashians, and they live in Calabasas, around the same age. So it's Nat and Liv, Malika and Khadijah, and Iris, who is a close friend of Kylie's who's now like really in the group, but she also has a child. So I think they're all like the Moms.

They say like the trailer was basically like there's like this divide amongst the group that like Nat, Liv, and Natalie are like this trio.

Nat, Liv, and Natalie—

Nat, Liv, and Nicole are like this trio.

Nicole Williams English, who's on the COVID illustrated.

Malika Khadijah and Iris are like this other like trio, and it's just sort of like making it difficult to be in the group. But it's like, well, it sounds like you just have two groups. Like, why do we have to be one?

Like, it's very much sounds like, like the home friends versus the college friends. We because Malika, Khadijah, and Iris are like the home friends there, especially Malika and Khadijah have been there forever. And Nat and Nicole are newer friends. I know we're like meant to believe that they've always been friends, but when—

well, at this point it's been a while, but compared to Malika and Khadijah—

but, but when Nat, Liv, and Nicole were filming WAGs, which—

they did not know the Kardashians.

They were not friends with the Kardashians. It was not until later. So it's— yeah, it's your college friends versus your high school friends, and you're trying to make one big group.

Yeah. And like Khloe's role up until I saw the trailer to me was just like a producer and like in name only, but she is like on the show and it's almost acting like very Cavallari where it's like she's the boss and she's coming to like check how the employees are doing.

It's giving House of Khloé.

Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, like not to be a hater, I'm not watching this.

No, and to me this feels like a show that won't succeed because it feels fake. It feels like fake manufactured drama, which was the exact thing Stassi is trying to avoid.

So say what you want, but she did that successfully.

She is doing that successfully. And this just feels like, oh, I don't like you, looked at me funny, like we don't really get along. And it's like, why?

You guys all like the same things in the same kind of like that episode of Keeping Up with the Kardashians where like they had the Poosh trip and that girl Sarah who was like vaping like started drama with one of the sisters. With Larsa.

Yeah, yeah, so fucking real.

Yeah, like that's what it sounds like, but just like a whole show.

This show needs Larsa.

Well, you know, she's on the outs.

I know, but she is the girl. She's the OG. But these are also Chloe's friends, because Sarah's Kourtney's friend.

Yes. I thought these girls were like Kim's friends.

I thought they met and lived there. Now Chloe and Kim do everything together. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I wonder, like, it's interesting Kim is not involved in this.

Kim was like in the trailer on FaceTime for a second.

Oh, was she?

Yeah, but this is also her group of friends. I just think it's gonna be— there's not gonna be like that much substance.

And I'm gonna say something like genuinely so mean, like so, so, so mean, but like these are 6 women who have never had a problem, like, with a platform, right? Like, they're getting blasted all the time by the Kardashians. Like, they have millions of followers, and like, people just like don't care. Like, I think that if any of them was like a major star, like, that would have happened already, do you know what I mean? They're just like sort of—

no, and like, Instagram girls. They had WAGs, which I think like wasn't appreciated in its time, but it's fine. They had Nat and Liv, they had their own show.

Now they've been on TV for so long. I think they should have their own show too. And it's just like nothing's 6 because they're just kind of— this is gonna be so mean— they're just like a permanent supporting character. So not just a face, but they just— some people are main characters and some people are supporting characters. And so I think like a whole show of supporting characters, like 6 supporting characters does not equal 1 main character.

Yeah, unless there's a breakout star.

We'll see. But like, wouldn't they have broken out by now? That's what I mean. They're not— for a lack of TV shows and opportunities, all of these girls have been on Keeping Up.

And all of these girls are extremely media savvy at this point. No one's actually gonna risk something, risk looking bad, saying something unpopular. So I don't think this has the makings, unfortunately.

Yeah, but like, I respect—

the problem is they try everything. The problem is this show is made for me.

I know. Well, that's perfect. That's how you know it's going to be bad.

No, and that the show was made for me, like in a lab. They said, who is the target demo for the show? And I'm saying like I fear for the interest.

Well, you know, it just depends when it comes out. Like, is there a dearth of things to watch? Like, you know, is it slow? Is it like— maybe—

no, there's Lurries, I guess. And for me to like watch something, there has to be some buzz, there has to be some intrigue, you know, clips going viral about conversations or topics that I find personally interesting. So I'll wait and see.

Yeah, I honestly feel like the reaction to House of Stassi has been so good for its viewership because —like, of course it was press and people were going to watch it regardless, but it's— but like, it's really buzzy. Like, everyone's— there's so many clips going viral and just like things that are making people want to watch it and have conversations about things.

Just like, even I've seen a lot of clips— she's doing a lot of press, and a lot of the things that people ask her about, like putting her kids on the show and her marriage, and just— these are inter— you know what it's not?

It's not service level.

These are inherently interesting topics.

It's true. And they're kind of kind of like polarizing too.

Yeah, whether you agree with her or disagree with the way she's going about it, like, you're—

she's going about it, you're sad. Yeah. So this will be a pass for me unless like I break my arm or something and I'm like, I'm bedridden.

And I also think, I guess I wouldn't be bedridden if I broke my arm, but Stassi does not inherently care if you are— if you agree with her or do not agree with her. You're talking about it, it's true, check. Yeah. And that's how I feel, like, that's why I feel comfort in— for a second I was like, I don't know if I should watch the show because like, what I like, don't know, Taylor, I don't agree with Sassy. They don't care. Like, that's not the point. They're enlightened enough to know that it's like, you're talking about it, our job is done. Yep. Thank you very much. Absolutely. You don't have to agree with everything.

Although I'm proud to say, like, I haven't seen anything from Taylor Strecker yet. I haven't finished that I've disagreed with. And if I do, like, I'm seriously like, you're not gonna hear from me.

Like, yeah, no, you're not gonna hear anything yet.

No, I think she's carrying herself with grace. She's getting like you know, commentary about how like, you know, she's just like being kind of obvious in her pursuit of fame, which I actually think is refreshing. Like, because we're always coming on, that person just wants fame. It's like, well, yeah, they're on TV. At least she's just being open about it, you know? Yeah. So much so that she even considers missing the birth of baby Beau, which I feel is a little bit dramatized for TV. I think maybe the timeline was like touch and go there, but she was never gonna miss it. Yeah, she was gonna let Teddy fly home first for a few weeks. But you know, Teddy has a lot of family here. She was, she was always going to be fine. And I said, by the way, I was like, I'll go, like, whatever you need. I'm not to make the other show about me, but I was talking to them and they're like, you know, the timeline's like a little— I'm like, Taylor, I'll come with you. Like, I did say I would be in the room. They were like, no, we're good.

I'm seriously cracking up that you came. That must have not made the cut. Yeah, well, that's our show.

That's their show, and that's our show. Lunchtime. We have to call Olivia.

Yeah, we have to call Olivia. She's sort of like in charge of lunch, so—

well, we're in charge, but we need her input. You know, it is a decision by committee, as the best lunches are. To the test.

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