Transcript of Episode #172: I've Had 25 Root Canals… Should I Be Worried? - Featuring Dr. Dominik Nischwitz New

It's the biggest lie in the whole world that a nice smile means health underneath. It could be the total opposite. You could be looking beautiful, and I see your X-ray and I see Terminator underneath. I'm the health expert that I would have needed 20 years ago to straight away give me a pathway to optimal health. And I discovered in between, you need a dentist because of previous dental repair, because that's the most unnatural bit in your body and you cannot biohack your way around it. Do you think tooth decay, which is number one chronic disease worldwide, is A, a fluoride deficiency, or B, a lack of nutrients? Why do we get tooth decay in the first place? And why do we even need dental time to repair. The worst enemy for the tooth is actually the dental drill, but we do not learn how to avoid it. I

think I've had 25 root canals, something like that. So there's 4 sides of wisdom teeth, right? I had one out. Let's just use me as an example of what the process would be for me so people can grasp somebody that screwed up, what you're going to do for me. So first of all, here's an interesting question. How much do you actually know about the way your everyday habits are supporting how you age? We hear so much about longevity right now— sleep, Protein, strength training, nutrition— all of these things matter. But there's another layer that doesn't get nearly as much attention as it should. What's happening inside your cells? Your mitochondria produce the cellular energy that your body relies upon every day. And mitochondrial dysfunction, that's considered a central hallmark of aging. And that's why I've been so interested in the work Timeline does with Mitopure. Mitopure is their pure and patented form of urolithin A. It supports mitochondrial function and cellular renewal by activating mitophagy, your body's natural process for clearing out damaged mitochondria. But rather than just tell you about it, Timeline wants you to think about your own longevity habits. So they've created a longevity quiz that takes just a few minutes, and it looks at some of the everyday habits that can support healthy aging.

And the best part? If you complete the quiz, Timeline will send you a free sample of Mitapure gummies. So take the quiz, learn a little bit more about how you're supporting supporting the way you age and try MitoPure for yourself. Go to timeline.com/jameli to take the longevity quiz and get your free gummies. That's timeline.com/jameli. All right, everybody, welcome back to the Dylan Gemelli Podcast. All smiles today, and you're going to know right away why. My guest today and I have been talking for quite a while now. I don't know, 7, 8 months. We've been trying to set this up. Not easy considering where he's from. It's a long-distance journey to come and see me, but man, I have been waiting for this for such a long time. When I first found out about my guest, I was intrigued right off the bat. And I was just— it was— I'm one of those people where if I want somebody, I'm not going to stop till I get them. And that's what I did with my guest today. But he— listen, a lot of you are going to know who he is. I'm going to give him a little introduction.

I want to take as much of the time that I can to maximize learning what he's got because it is on a different level of learning. So, he is one of the world's leading, I would say the leading— biological dentist. He's the founder of Biodentistry 3.0, and that is the fusion of high-tech dentistry with functional medicine and longevity health optimization. And he's the author of It's All in Your Mouth, and he's built a global standard, Biodentistry Global Standard, which is training dentists worldwide to find what everyone else missed. I can't say enough about my guy here today. We have a lot of similarities. We grew up around the same time periods. He's my guy. You'll know him as Dr. Dom, not Dome. He corrected me right away. It's Dr. Dom, Dr. Dominic Nischwitz.

Thank you so much for having me, Dylan. Appreciate it.

Thank you so much for coming and seeing me, brother. I have, like I said, have been looking forward to this conversation. I hit it off with you immediately. We have, like I said, similarities for our love of Jordans and shoes and everything else, but of health.

Yeah.

And impact. And you make a massive impact because you do something special, you do something different, and you've incorporated dentistry with overall health standards. And so, I kind of want to get into, first of all, what drove you to become a dentist? Because we were talking off camera a little bit and this was not really your preferred profession. So, let's talk about what you wanted to do and how you're kind of coordinating that with what you're doing now.

Thanks. So essentially, when I was a kid growing up, I wanted to become one thing, skateboard professional. Yeah, that ties into the shoes and stuff, right? And hip-hop and all these things. But I'm a very single-minded, focused person. So I was only focused on that. And my dad is actually a dentist, right? So I never wanted to become a dentist like my dad because he was never there. So I thought, I wanna do sports. He has no time, so it's probably a shitty job. Didn't know that it could be a passion, right? Then I had civil service and they put me in. So I was a paramedic in civil service and they put me in dental, in the clinics, in dentistry by chance.

Wow.

And I don't know, for whatever reason, the clinician, the clinical director, he let me pull teeth like right from the bat. And I was like, oh, wow, that's fun. So overnight I just applied to university. I thought, okay, I'm very good with arts. I'm very artistic and good with my hands. I knew this is something you can do and build stuff, but I had no idea what is included, that you have to learn chemistry, biochemistry, and all the school stuff, because I'm not the type of person who is good at school or sits still. It's pretty difficult. Anyways, applied to it, was really good with my hands, realized during university within the first 2, 3 semesters, I got super sick myself. Just basically mental health issues, crashed big time, my own bad. Yeah, I just drank too much, partied too hard from 14 to 21, which came with the lifestyle of skateboarding and all these things. And I did all this parallel to university. So basically, I was trying to get my health back while studying dentistry. Luckily, dentistry was very easy for me because of the, let's say, the good dexterity. Mm-hmm. But because I learned about health, I started to go into training, workouts, everything you would call these days foundations of health, I was already doing 20 years ago.

So taking the supplements, the creatine, the whey protein, all these different things. To rebuild me, basically. I just had to get somewhere because at that point of time there was no global health movement. It was 2004, right? No YouTube, no, um, Dr. Google, no social media, nothing. I was just left alone with like, oh God, can I become normal again? And no one could help me because there was no doctor around. So I figured it out myself. I took the chance, uh, the challenge, and learned everything parallel to university. Didn't realize that whatever I was learning for me personally will help afterwards. So it took me about 5 years during university. So university was not my passion. I just did it, but I questioned it all the time because I was already reading every book about every supplement, about functional medicine, about everything parallel for me personally. Mm-hmm. And I was so fascinated about overall health and something was missing. I realized it directly after university when I got my health back. Took around about 5 years. I started at a surgeon. You have to do residency in dentistry for about 2 years before you can open your own practice.

And I wanted to become an oral surgeon straight away. Don't know why, but it resonated. And this dude was an old school dentist placing these amalgam fillings. So these silver looking metal-ish fillings that didn't resonate with me from just aesthetics. So I told him, I'm not gonna do this. I bring in ceramics, I bring in the composites, the aesthetic side of things. But at the same time, I was looking into the— why would I not do this? Because he asked me. I was like, that, that's when YouTube started, and I found amazing people such as my big mentors, Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt, Joachim Mutter, people that were talking about heavy metal and functional medicine and overall health. And they were teaching about how toxic dental materials are, how toxic our root canals, all these different things. So finally, a whole universe opened up for me in this residency because of my old school doctor. So I was doing the surgeries, optimizing me, but also at the same time, I got addicted to the world of what you call these days functional medicine or biohacking, health optimization, just 20 years ago, right? Mm-hmm. And I got single-minded focus and I learned everything.

I traveled the world. I learned from the best possible mentors, such as, like I said, Dietrich Klinghardt. Everything you can imagine, I learned. I became a naturopathic doctor. I became a functional medicine practitioner, like a ton of different things. on that journey. And like I said, I never wanted to be the dentist, but I was good with my hands. So it took probably 5 years into my dental career to realize that, hey, I'm actually at the right spot as a dentist because everybody else tries to optimize and work on the foundations of health. There's one big missing link. So yeah, this is basically the journey, right? These days, I mean, 15 years later, I became world's leading biological dentist. Mm-hmm. But, I would say I'm the health expert that I would have needed 20 years ago to straightaway give me a pathway to optimal health. And, I discovered in between you need a dentist because of previous dental repair because that's the most unnatural bit in your body and you cannot biohack your way around it. It's a missing link in longevity and functional medicine. Yeah. And, I don't want to ramble on too long, but is it okay for you?

No, no. We have a lot because I have a lot that I'm going to hammer you on when it comes to this because I have learned a lot about teeth and and the depths of how much it affects your health. I want to kick back a little bit so I can go over a couple things. So, you were wanting to be a skateboarder, you said about 14. So, that was like Tony Hawk time. Was that kind of one of the people that you were looking at?

More like street skating. Of course, Tony Hawk was always a name. Of course, I mean, he's the legend. But yeah, when I started in 1995, skateboarding was basically dead. I don't know why it resonated with me. I was a little 12-year-old kid with the massive baggies. I had long, long dreadlocks, like a very odd odd guy to walk it. Like, yeah, this is how— when I discovered probably me for the first time. Yeah. And that was my style, and I loved it, and I loved the tricks. And I mean, skateboarding, to be fair, you learn from frustration, right? Yeah. Back then there was no YouTube, so I had to learn it on the street in front of our house. There was no skatepark, no other skaters really, but you just basically try, try, try, fall back up, fall back up until you finally get it. It's literally— it's actually frustrating, so you have to be Quite concise. But yeah.

It's a lot of falling and picking yourself right back up. And so, I'm talking about the perseverance, which ties into what you're doing now because of you branching out into something different. And what you do is different. So, there's going to be a lot of learning and there's going to be a lot of tough days and where you're struggling to really pull in what you're doing, learn it, understand it, perfect it. So, the skateboarding sets the stage for who you were. when you were younger, wow, okay, I can do this 'cause I've developed this kind of virtue when I was younger.

It's consistency is key. You have to have consistency. You cannot get stopped because there's always a way. You find the way. And I think what I've developed over the time is just I'm very good at thinking for myself. Always questioning everything, but I'm a very curious person. Like, I'm always a people person. I'm always interested in every story. I'm interested in learning new things. The opposite of a fixed mindset, obviously.

That's why I do what I do, because I am genuinely curious, and I think that I ask the questions everybody wants to hear, not a little script here that goes down and goes, oh, this is what so-and-so sent me. No, I'm asking you the shit everybody wants to know.

Awesome.

Right? And that's why you're here. So, okay, now you started looking at things differently when you were younger. That was way ahead of the curve. Now, creatine got popular when we were in high school, you and I both, but really it was only being looked at as something for strength and athletes were using it basically. We didn't see and understand the cognitive benefits or anything like that. Did you notice any of that at a young age? And, what else were you seeing aside from creatine that you thought, wow, there's something here that people aren't talking about? Was there anything you remember that—

I mean, there was a lot of different things. First, I started with training, right? Yeah. It felt like if I do something instead of skateboarding, first for jumping higher, obviously, and I wanted to look like a turtle hero. So just the muscle and, and the, you know, yeah, I'm an aesthetic person, so I want to look good too. Why not feel good, look good, all the different things? And I, I don't know, for whatever reason, I was just fascinated about how the human body works. And maybe it's also because I had to study chemistry and biochemistry in, in university, and I had— it was a must, I had to learn it. But the way I learned it was I understood it for the first time. I was not just passing out in school and riding the grades, I was literally like thinking about why that works. And because I was taking the creatine or the glutamine, all the things that were kind of like— as in Germany at least, if you were asking for creatine in even in 2003 or '04, it was more like taking drugs. Like even protein shakes was like, oh wow.

My mom was like, whoa, you're taking these things? It's like crazy, right? Yeah. I mean, to be fair, I think creatine only right now, maybe the last year, it's in And it's in all— it's everywhere, right? Like, even my mom will take it now, right? It took 20 years. But yeah, everything— I was so fascinated about biochemistry, and I think I realized this is how my mind thinks, because it's all first principle thinking. It's completely logic. So it was literally in university, I was questioning, what am I learning and why am I learning this? Who created this? Who invented this? Because it didn't make sense.

Yeah.

Because I was interested in what you would call functional medicine now, and And science, and literally just science. And of course, because I'm that odd guy that brings the boxes with food into the clinic and does his own thing, most people just think this is an odd dude, right? Yeah. It's a freak. However, after university, when I graduated, I told my friends from university that always said like, dude, what are you doing? It's a bit crazy, right? But I told them, I'm going to explain this to you in scientific terms at one point of time. Biochemistry, physics, all the sciences. And you will understand there's just a missing link here in university. University, I understood that university is the entrance card that we need to take to be able to practice. Yeah. That's it. Lucky, actually, this was my dad telling me this. He's in 10th semester right before examination. I was questioning the whole university. I was like, and I think my dad got scared. He's like, this dude's not gonna pull out now after like almost finishing. He said, this is your entrance card. Everything else starts from there because the curriculum you're studying right now is already, was already outdated when he studied in in early '80s.

And it's correct, it was from 1959. Stuff I'm studying, right? So I got this point, but I understand that most of my colleagues, they were happy to be examined, and for them was the finish line.

Yeah.

Right? And it took me another, I think, 5 years until all my best friends became so-called— I call them real biodentists— and they took over what I was teaching. But I had to create the concept first. So for dentistry, to get accepted with odd thinking, you have to be— you have to kind of blend in.

Yeah.

Not in a way that I would blend in with my style, never. Yeah, I have the reputation on stage to miss the dress code because I come in with the Jordans, right? And it's okay. However, in— so that the older generations, everyone I was learning from was baby boomer generation, so their mindset is always rather be paranoid than naive. I'm the opposite. I want to have fun. So But I wanted dentists to listen to me, so I had to have some sort of technical skill. So I became one of the first ever ceramic implant specialists. So for all the audience that doesn't know what an implant is, so if you have lost a tooth, Mm-hmm. you need to restore this, and that's called dental implantology, and it's a high-skill surgery. And normally, that's also how I studied it, the normal dental implant, so the root of the new tooth is an implant that's below bone, is usually made out of titanium. That's the gold standard. Mm-hmm. But of course, on my journey, I realized, hey, metal in the mouth doesn't work. So I had to find something else. So I found someone that did ceramic implants.

He was basically my mentor at the beginning, and he created it, kind of. So I could never surpass him. But I knew, okay, if I'm getting the reps in there, like skateboarding, it's just a trick, like a kickflip. You need the reps. So I got all into getting as many reps as humanly possible for ceramic implants just to showcase this, to, let's say, just go on magazines and put my name out there and the word out there. This is even existing. Yeah. And at a time about 2013, at a time that no one ever would consider it. Now we're 2026, still 0.0, 0.1% do that even, right? So just a tiny tool in dentistry. Anyways, I was a flying implant— I did flying implant service. So you could hire me as a clinic owner and I would come in for extreme days. Day was planned. I did not know any patient. I didn't know the team. I only had my surgical kit with me. Mm-hmm. I would just perform. The only quest I had was I want to have at least 20 ceramic implants per day. That was my reps game. So within the first 2 years of doing this, I obviously got into just thousands and thousands, and you get— I get just super good.

I had a lot of reps.

Yeah.

And I, I had cases, and people need cases, so I could publish cases. And what I realized, because of all these reps, I realized whatever a titanium implant, the metal normal implant, that just heals inside your jawbone. It just seems to heal because of an a chronic silent inflammation. It works through cytokines. But the ceramic implants that I was seeing and doing exclusively from the day that I learned it, they didn't heal. So they just didn't heal the way a titanium healed. So I was looking into everything I learned before, like the nutrition, the supplements, the foundations of health, and realized, wait a second, the ceramic implant is a neutral healing device. It's basically— zirconia is a healing stone. It does not heal in a body that isn't prepared and can't build bones. So I realized, hey, we have to take a step back and work on the whole body and make the body anabolic. Because the body is the real bone builder, not that implant. The implant is just a tiny tool. And luckily I had all these reps, and probably because of the reps, like Jordan, I missed most of the shots, right?

I had the most failure, and I wasn't afraid of it. Skateboarding mentality. So then I started teaching globally. I was invited everywhere in the dental world, and It took a little bit, and I created the Bone Healing Protocol. That is just a trademark name for how to use macro and micronutrients to support the overall healing. Mm-hmm. Because I realized what we do wrong, as every surgeon in my opinion, not just dental surgeon, is you just come in for an appointment not prepared. We do the surgery, and we think we're the healers, like the surgeon, but we're not. So I took a step back and realized, okay, let's work on the patient. And it took a while until I figured out what tiny part of the bone healing protocol the dental community would resonate with. So it was first the ceramic implants because it's new and controversial. And then second, the bone healing protocol evolved around high doses of vitamin D3 and K2 and magnesium. And because I could explain science behind of biochemistry behind vitamin D3 and how bone building works, they would start listening. Took another 5 years. I wrote a book in 2018, um, that was a little bit ahead of the curve.

I told you before, gave a lot of shitstorms, a lot of things, but I think it was all for the greater good because, um, I mean, at least they were listening. Yeah. And it was never about me anyways, but I think to get to the root source of something or to the source, you always go against stream, right? Yeah, you have to go where it's coming from, and it's just very simple. I'm just asking super simple question also to your audience. If you would ask a dentist— maybe it's extreme, but first principle thinking— do you think tooth decay, which is number one chronic disease worldwide, is A, a fluoride deficiency, or B, a lack of nutrients? What do you think most dentists—

Oh, they're going to say the fluoride deficiency.

Exactly. But normal thinking people that are not brainwashed would, would question it maybe.

Oh yeah.

Wait a second, we didn't have tooth decay and we didn't even brush teeth. So that's how I approach things. Same for when it comes to the titanium, the ceramic implant not healing. I'm thinking, okay, am I a bad surgeon or is the body not prepared? Why does it not heal? Okay, a ceramic implant is completely neutral, there's no inflammation involved, it must be the bone healing. Oh, it must be the biochemistry. And obviously, it helped that I was training, that I was bodybuilding, that I realized how to use protein, macronutrients, micronutrients. That obviously helped a lot because, as you know, in dentistry or medical school, it's the same. Dentistry, medical school in Germany, almost you learn nothing about nutrition, not a single bit. Yeah. The biochemistry and the chemistry and the physics is only about the material. So, we're learning in university about materials such as gold or mercury and how they're composed. and how to repair the bite and fix the bite with materials that we shouldn't even use. So we made a school system out of something that is completely outdated instead of learning how does the whole body work, how does it function, why do we get tooth decay in the first place, and why do we even need dental repair?

Because we also learn in university on day one that the worst enemy for the tooth is actually the dental drill. But we do not learn how to avoid it. We only learn Band-Aid solutions such as fluoride, says drilling, filling, and billing. And this is why our profession, my profession— I'm a dentist, right?— is the most belittled medical profession. In Germany, you're not even considered a doctor. I think in America it's the same. Remember The Hangover movie? Have you seen it? Yeah. Like Dr. Price in Vegas at like the check-in at the reception, checking in as Dr. Price, and then his friend says, uh, Dr. Price, you don't be fancy about it, you're just a dentist. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. This is the problem. And I'm just there showing, hey, dentists out there, wake up. We are actually physicians of the overall body. We're just starting in the mouth. And previous dental repair, this is what I figured out, is actually the one thing that's completely blocking you on your journey to optimal health and longevity. And, it ties perfectly in right now because I think probably COVID sped it all up, right? Because I think before COVID most people didn't realize that we have an immune system even.

Mm-hmm. They were just thinking that disease just happens, right? Mm-hmm. Now we know. Now there's social media and there's a global movement. My personal feeling is that people out there do not see the forest for the trees anymore. And it's very, very complex and complicated and too much information. But at least we agree in, I'm following health like you. I'm following everyone in the health game. I think Huberman said it last year and then Bryan Johnson that the foundations of health are sleep. Everyone's talking about sleep, right? The foundations of health are nutrition, And I think macro as well as micronutrients, supplementation, movement, exercise, like emotion comes from motion, outside circadian rhythm, sunlight, all these different things, but also community, stress management, brain health, and gut health. And I think Huberman put oral health into this because obviously it's clear, right? Because this here ends here, right? Yeah. At the back door. This is the gut. begins in the mouth. The mouth is the gut. The mouth is not separate of the body. But unfortunately, this bit got excluded in medical school. Dentists don't know about it, and medical school doesn't learn about this part.

And dentists only repair that part for fixing smiles and bites. Mm-hmm. So you see, it's, it's just a dental evolution that we understand. Hey, wait a second, we have 32 teeth which are little tiny organs directly connected to your brain through trigeminal nerve. So they're directly attached. It's an extension of your brain. Whatever we do on them is not outside body. It's directly affecting your centerpiece, your brain, your nervous system, your immune system, every little bit. And we're trying to optimize overall health, everything downstream from here, but forgetting this. So, I have one slide that I'm showing almost on every health convention, Eudaimonia or where we met briefly, and especially at the Health Optimization Summit. It took me a while to figure it out. If I would have had this slide, 20 years ago, everything would've been easier, but I probably had to figure that out for myself. What I just said, step 1 on your journey out there to optimal health, follow health, do the foundations because they're basically for free, right? Mm-hmm. Whatever I just said. But then what I see is most of the people that are still not healthy, that still have some sort of chronic health issue, even though they figured out nutrition and sleep and everything, they straightaway jump to more extreme things such as hyperbaric IVs, red light, all the technical tools and things and gadgets.

which are great, but they miss one foundation on the roadmap to optimal health. It's oral health optimization. Have you had any previous dental repair? And I'm asking this question on every single podium. Did they remove— just ask yourself 3 questions. Can I speak in there?

Yeah.

3 questions. Do you have any metal in your mouth? If the answer is yes, stand up, remain standing. Do you have a root canal or multiple root canals? Stand up, remain standing. And the third question is, did they remove your wisdom teeth? And if any of the question is a yes, there's room for health optimization. And usually by the last question, 95% of the audience stands up. If I'm speaking on a medical convention that I just did lately at the Buck Institute for Longevity, everyone was standing up. Like, the best clinics in the world for longevity were missing this. And I'm not saying it's bad, it's just we have to talk. Like, there is no optimal health without addressing this centerpiece, right? But we have to do it all. And this is the concept I've created. It's melting the highest skills in dentistry. It's not against conventional dentistry. It's ceramic implantation. It is digital dentistry. It's cosmetic dentistry. That needs to be the standard, right? Mm-hmm. And we're melting it with the overall health approach. And then it's a new profession from the technician to the health expert, because in our clinic, you're there for 5 days.

We take care of all the dental repair. It's a fine dining menu of health. But, we have a complete health lounge, a longevity center at site. We have hyperbaric. We do IVs. We do the red light. We do it all. If we could, we probably also did the peptides and whatever you can do. But, the goal is to take a step back for all our patients and design the fastest way possible to optimal health instead of going here, here, here, and here and completely miss the mark. I mean, that's basically what I'm doing, right? Yeah.

One of the main draws that I had to you was not your, so to speak, profession being somebody that does something different in your practice. It was how you approached the recovery. Yeah. And how you looked at different aspects on that end. See, one of the things that I encounter is just exactly what you said. Somebody gets into a profession, they go what and take class, do what they're told, which in fairness, what are you gonna do? You're paying for it. But they then they never realize what else goes along with that responsibility. See, that's maybe the core of what you're doing. So maybe the core is dentistry, for example. But then what else? What are you missing? What foundationally do you need to ensure you're doing it correctly? And without proper healing, then you're screwed. No matter what you do, you're basically set up to keep people coming back in and keep fixing them and doing the same old shit without them actually recovering. So what you're doing is actually creating a bigger problem. And correct me if I'm wrong, but if you don't actually teach people how to heal properly. You're only going to create more problems because, like you said, more root canals, more work that's being done over time.

All that Novocaine, all those injections, all of the other nonsense that's going on in there, it's not good. It's not good. It's hard on your heart. It's hard on your mind. It's hard on all kinds of different aspects, right?

Oh, I mean, studies are clear. Everything can be linked back to oral health. Like, because of the microbiome, we can touch this, But you're completely correct. Didn't even talk about it. It's very traumatic. And yet it sounds like what you just said sounds like it's a subscription model.

Yeah.

For failure, because no one ever teaches you how to heal. If we take a step back and think first principle, okay, our teeth naturally are designed to be hard as stone, like granite, right? And Weston Price was able to show indigenous people eating real food according to their lifestyle had no tooth decay, had perfectly aligned teeth, didn't need any braces. no mouth breathing, all these different things that we are now facing as an epidemic in the Western world. Like, we have the opposite. Like, we had kids with no space for teeth, wisdom teeth needing to get pulled, multiple teeth getting pulled, tooth decay, mouth breathing, all that. That's what we're seeing right now. So if nature has it designed right, where did we get wrong? Yeah. And I think it's, again, no one is questioning the status quo. And it's, I think conventional dentistry is just outdated. It's drilling, filling, and billing. It's fixing bites and smiles, but it's the biggest lie in the whole world that a nice smile means health underneath. It's the total opposite. No, it could be the total opposite. You could be looking beautiful and I see your X-ray and I see Terminator underneath, right?

Not kidding. Like devitalized teeth, root canals, all these things. And I'm not even saying that the dentist does this with a bad intention. Not at all. But what I think is my goal is if I do a surgery, I do this to help that body heal. Mm-hmm. I'm not a surgeon to do surgeries. I'm way too sensitive for that. So I want to make sure people heal. And I also— the way I've created that concept, Biodentistry 3.0, is it's essentially 2 phases. Phase 1 is we have to look into what has been done already. What was your dental journey? And most patients, unfortunately, between 35 and 65 or older have had seen the dentist a lot, including yourself, right? And this is how you look because it's usually traumatic. You just said it— all the Novocaine, all the pain, all root canals. It's not nice.

No.

So my goal is to make this experience a museum of life moment. And for us, a surgery does not start at the day of surgery. It's not an appointment you have it at 2:00 PM, you go in traffic, you sit in the waiting room, and then you get your Novocaine and then the procedure. That's it. Our patients get prepared in advance for phase 1. So phase 1, you can follow? Yeah. So phase 1 basically is we see all patients remote because most of our patients fly in from all over the world for a decade.

And you're in Germany?

I'm in Germany at this point of time, right? Yeah. Panoramic X-ray is just a 2-dimensional overview where I can see at one glance, okay, we have metals, We have a couple of root canals, most likely infected, and we have a few removed teeth, most likely wisdom teeth. It's the Western world. So we will plan the complete approach remotely. Phase 1 means we take care of all metals, we take them out safely. We will also make sure that we remove all the chronically infected root canals and place, if possible, immediate same-day ceramic implants, not titanium, because I don't want to cripple you. I want to give you teeth and good healing. And then of course we take care of these removed wisdom teeth sites, which is a big controversy right now on social media. It's called cavitations in layman's terms. We can go deep into this later. Yes. But anyways, we make sure we heal that also. If it's about— we remodel the complete house. This is your body is your house, right? It starts in the mouth. So in order that this heals, because it's high skill surgery, you have to make sure the patient heals.

My goal is no pain, no swelling if possible. This is why the setup is 4 weeks, 6 weeks, 8 weeks. depending on your resilience, you're prepared with the right nutrition. Yeah. The food design concept that I've created, the bone healing protocol, basically codified nutrition. Then they come in for the whole health week where we examine everything. We do a 3-dimensional cone beam scan, and then as planned, remove the metal safely. We do the surgical part, the immediate implants, but at the same time, they have a complete fine dining menu of optimal health. We even put them on an InBody scan to see the whole total body composition to individualize the nutrition. We do red light beds. We do full-on menu with different IVs, even lasering your veins. It's all there. Hyperbaric sessions, hypoxia training. Everything is there on site. Why? To make the steak of that menu, which is the dental intervention, seamless. The opposite of the dental trauma. The opposite. It is actually, if you know how to do the surgical skills, if you're a sensitive surgeon, it's a scarless surgery. It's pain-free because taking out a tooth, for example, Mm-hmm. you can wiggle it.

You don't need to snap and rip it out. You can just wiggle it, take it out. and conserve the whole anatomy. It's pain-free. And then if you have that hole anyways, you put the ceramic implant. Anyways, top-level concept. We make sure the foundation is clean. It takes about 4 to 6 months to heal everything. Ideally, when you do our protocols, you come back after 4 to 6 months for phase 2. Phase 2 is basically we're giving you what you see. It's called prosthetics, aesthetics, cosmetic dentistry. You can follow? Yeah. The function, the bite, the airway, it's all included. But in between, you know exactly how to eat. It's an elimination diet. It's high in nutrients. It's low— it's, it's codified, so you know exactly what to do. So we heal you from here to here, and at the same time, we make sure that your body builds bone, heals teeth, and, and osseointegrates the ceramic implants. Yeah. And you leave with teeth. You obviously always have teeth, not just lost teeth. So once you come back after 6 months, maybe and everything is healed. The final stage is what do you see? So digital dentistry, smile design, we make sure the bite is correct because the bite is completely— the bite is the posture, is the thermostat for your posture.

So we have to make sure this is all there. It's technical excellence and precision. And then after this week, we basically never want to see you again as a dental patient. You can stay for health optimization if you're local, but most of our patients actually are international, so they probably don't even come back. But now it's the best part. The fulfilling part for me is, of course we can do the surgeries, of course I'm a world champion ceramic implants, but this was 15 or 10 years ago. I already managed it. For me, it's all about the relationship of the patients coming in. It's a museum of life. I want to get to know them. I want to spend time with them. I see maximum 1 to 2 patients a day, not 50. And we take so good care that they heal overall. And what they usually tell us after these 4 months is like, 80% of my chronic health issues are gone. I had 32 years of migraine. After seeing you 4 months ago, I've never had it again. Wow. This gives me goosebumps. Oh, I had mental health issues, suicidal thoughts. I couldn't get pregnant.

I had skin eczema. I had rheumatoid arthritis. And on the second day of surgery, it's gone. So everything they were already seeing 29 doctors for, it finally resolves. And I'm not saying that this is a miracle thing. It's just we're finally addressing the most unnatural part in your body. Because let's face it, you didn't come to this planet with metals or dead teeth or root canals or cavitations. They're, they're just the outcome of then the repair.

Yeah.

So this is the fulfilling part for me. I love the achievement, I love the skill and the craft, but I love— what I love more, and this is my, my Elke, who is head— who is the head of our patient experience, she lately asked me, is, is surgery your happy place? And I straight away answered no, and I'm like, oh shit, that was wrong. Why is it not? And then I realized, okay, yes, surgery is a part of my, my happy place, but my happy place is welcoming you into that journey and being the guide. Yeah, to— on your journey to optimal health. With everything I've learned, I give my— we give our best to make sure that you heal. And at the same time, obviously, having a beautiful and amazing smile, that's all included. But the overall health effect, this gives me the goosebumps, like every single day. And I'm Collecting, I don't know if that resonates with you, but I'm collecting museum of life experiences and memories. When I'm 120 years old, maybe we get there, I wanna remember every single person that I saw. Mm-hmm. And not numbers, not numbers. It's completely different.

And I'm trying to display this on socials and everywhere. And, and people, it's, it's hard to, to explain if you haven't done it. So in order to explain this even to my colleagues, I'm training globally, right? I'm training real biodentists. That's my community for that profession, for Dentistry 3.0. So the melting of all that, right? They're called real biodentists, and all of them start with themselves. Mm-hmm. They change their nutrition, they change their lifestyle, they get their own health journey, they get their own surgery, they get their cavitations out, they get their root canals out, the metals out, because I personally believe we have to be healthy first in order to teach through osmosis. Because if we do not practice, teach, and preach myself, how can I guide patients on their journey? It's not possible. Yeah. So that's the whole purpose behind all this. And yeah, I'm building a huge community. There's already more than 100 people worldwide. I probably trained 1,000, but only educated. And now it's a real community of like-minded people because it's frequency first. It's not pay-to-play. It's not possible. They have to all apply. Same for patients. It's all application only.

But it's just an amazing— I don't even want to call it a job. It's not a job, it's a profession. It's a whole movement I've created and a mission, and I'm very blessed to be there. And maybe my own hero journey started with me personally getting a smack in my face because I overdid it, and I'm an extremist in both directions. I drank for 3 lifetimes, paid the price, never drink again. Don't need it, it's out of the system, right? Yeah. But I want to be there and show that it's possible to be successful. And I think if we work on our health first, body, mind, spirit, and as cleaner this body is, the cleaner is the connection, right? I think we can help as many people as possible. I think it's possible.

Everything that I teach foundationally, for me, it starts with God. And once I align people there, then I get them to where I start to work on their mind. Then I start to work on their other sorts of health, whether it's nutrition, fitness, and it all correlates into one. But if you try to go do anything And especially something like dental work and heal somebody or put them on a program. If I got you— like, I trained professional bodybuilders and athletes forever, and there were so many times where I'm like, man, I'm giving them everything they need. I've got everything that I see on paper physically that they need. But if you don't align everything, I don't care what you do, man. Like, you'll never heal properly. You'll never get right if you don't pick all the pieces of the puzzle and put them together. And, if it's not adequate to where, okay, I've got you good mentally, right? Because that really has the control over everything and it's hard to stay mentally sharp if you got pain in your mouth or you've got other issues, of course, right? So, mentally, cognitively, we fix that, we get the hormones right, we get everything right, then you can heal people, then you can fix them.

So, everything that you're doing, you're giving them spirit, you're giving them hope, you're doing a lot more than just pulling a toothache and here's some Percocet, go take it and good luck. You know, because it doesn't help. It actually causes a bigger problem.

100%. I agree. I'm always debating if it's— I think it's body, mind, spirit is all one. Like you said, it's completely the same. From my experience, I would say if this is the foundation and you— it's just a vessel basically, right? Yeah. And we know that from biology of belief that all our receptors are just getting the information in.

Yes,

I learned this from Dietrich Klinghardt. I think if that body is unhealthy, in what sort of way, you're disconnected.

Yes.

And I personally think it's easier to reach your spirit and your true self if that is clean.

Yes.

And I have a lot of patients that suffer with mental health issues and anxiety and all these different things, and they're trying to do the Foundations of Health. And that's what I'm always saying, if you're already trying to optimize everything and they do everything, but there's still something off.

Yes.

You maybe missed the mouth. And this is what— something you cannot buy yourself your way around it. Not possible.

Let me ask you a question. How many, how many angry or negative people, or people that are always upset or have a problem for every solution, do you look at and go, man, they're the epitome of health, they look healthy? I bet you can't tell me one. Anybody that walks around negative, talking shit, angry at the world, causing division, hateful, everything else, I guarantee you not one of them do you look at and go, wow, They look healthy. I hope I can get like that. You know what I mean? So, when you start developing a positive attitude, even in times that you're suffering, hurting, or whatever, the positive attitude will resonate throughout your body and it will emit into the room too as well. And, you'll help to not only heal yourself quicker but others around you. So, let's say you go do a bunch of work on somebody, they got inflammation, pain, whatever, but they have a good positive attitude, they're going to heal a hell of a lot faster than somebody that's just Oh man, woe is me, and oh, it's the end of the world, and you know what I mean?

I would say I agree 100% with you. So this is a hard learning for me because maybe from how I am, obviously I think everyone is like me probably, and they all give their best. And there was a time when I tried to help everyone.

Yeah.

And I thought it's possible. It's not. Because if you're in that— I don't know how you call it, but I call it fixed mindset or pity mode or Victim mode mindset.

That's it.

Is it called victim mode mindset?

Victim mindset, lack of accountability.

So if you're there, I can give you all the advice in this world, it will not resonate and not help at all. And I paid the price for that. So it's 100%, you need to have that positive attitude. Of course, it's sometimes hard because maybe there is something in your body. And I learned this, like depression, if it's depression and these things, there's usually a physical component to it.

Absolutely.

And it is hard, but it is always— if you start your day with being blessed, that— I mean, you're alive. I mean, what better present like that? You're in the present. That's the gift.

Vitamin G is gratitude.

Yeah, I love that. The vitamin G, or vitamin God, or whatever you call it. OG. This is hard to teach, but I mean, all the, the self-help books and all— they are teaching this. You have to take responsibility. Yes. I'm, I'm not the person to help you then. But the funny thing is, like, I started with seeing extremely unhealthy, super chronic sick patients, like end station, like ALS, neurological Parkinson's, all these different things. So they basically needed 10 out of 10 solution ASAP to just get to 0.

Yeah.

And my scale, what I'm looking at is optimal health. So 0 means normal medical health, absence of disease, right? Yeah. You and me, we're interested in what's possible, right? 100, level 1,000, like optimal health, body, mind, spirit, like a little kid. Yeah. Being curious, no negative thoughts, on switch, off switch. That's actually what I'm looking at. And luckily over the years, I see them too, but I see all the extremes. I see a lot of entrepreneurs, a lot of athletes, a lot of health enthusiasts, biohackers, whatever you want to call it. But generally, most of them actually are in a good spirit. They take accountability, they're on their journey, and they're just grateful. They're grateful for, hey, You solved my nutrition. Hey, I took 80 supplements. You reduced it down to 5. Like, they appreciate it.

Yeah.

Versus the mindset you just described, people that feel like the world owes them. And I, I think no one can help them. I think they, they have something. They get their energy from being in pity mode. That, that gives something back to them that I don't get.

You know what? Is that correct? I'll tell you this. So, you know, I always say when I got released from prison that I got free, but I really didn't. And I'm gonna explain to you why. When I really became free, totally free, was when I became free of being like a slave of, to not just sin, but to worrying about what everybody else thought and being so self-absorbent to where I took, okay, Dylan, this is where you were inadequate. This is what you did wrong. It's not 'cause somebody did something to you or took advantage of you, or it's always somebody else. Right. Now it's to where I can sit here and look at you and tell you, you know what, Dom? I fucked that up. It's my fault. I was wrong on this. I made the mistake. And then I— you know how freeing that is and how good it feels to admit it and say— it's like when I used to— and I don't argue with my wife a lot, but when I have or we have a disagreement and I'm always, you know what, babe? I was a real asshole. I know I was.

And I'm lying to you if I act like I wasn't. And then quickly she's like, but yeah, but I did this, and then it's over, it's resolved, right? But then you try to get that pride nonsense and do all of this and everything, it never goes away, nothing gets resolved, and you, you ruin relationships. Not just with your wife or family, but with everybody. No one wants to talk to you, be around you. But if you're quick to, to apologize, say you're sorry, admit your mistakes, humanize yourself, everybody wants to be around you.

That resonated big time. I think I want— I would agree 100%. It's the same with me. It's taking full responsibility and ownership. And actually, I'll— this is how I teach my kids. And everyone is like, just do your mistakes, do your fails, but hey, own them, please. Yeah, don't look for excuses. And I'm exactly the same. My wife and me were together since I'm 21, so it's more than half my life. 22 years.

Wow.

4 kids now. And we argue, but exactly the way you do it, it's like Yeah, okay, that was my ego taking over. But I think the, the time it takes you to apologize, if that is like 2 seconds— and I'm a— I'm an impulsive person by nature, that's just how I am, that's how I grew up. Very— I was very aggressive at the time. I taught myself how to not be, and— but sometimes I still flip for a second.

Yeah.

But instantly it's like, oh, sorry. Like you said it, own it, apologize, and openly communicate. I want to just be me and don't be cagey around people, right? Like you, you're just you. And this is— you're completely correct. This is the most freeing thing. And I think all of us, we have the ego involved. For the world championship mindset, I had to be someone. And I learned, for example, maybe that's interesting. So on my journey to becoming this kind of sort of health expert, I learned psycho— unresolved psycho-emotional trauma.

Yeah.

So Didrik Linga teaches autonomic response testing and psychokinesiology. I remember I was like 28 years, young and wild, all masculine dude, zero femininity. That was back then. So I learned all that.

Like, same. I've been—

that's how I grew up, walking around with broken elbows and then never would ever show any vulnerability. That's just how I was. That's how I was taught. I don't know, that was— maybe that's our age.

No, I was the same way. You're the same? I was. It took a long time.

Took a long time. Very aggressive. But I remember when I was at that course and the woman, the lady that taught us there, like older teacher. She was saying, and this weekend we deal about— we deal with psycho-emotional trauma. And I'm laughing, like, I don't have any of this. She's like laughing straight away, dude, you have the most of everyone in this room. What? And I was a crybaby. Whole weekend unresolved things. So I came back, I don't know, humbled down, applied all these different things and learned and learned and learned and learned. And I realized already, luckily enough, that at that time, like mid-20s that every trigger is just me. Whatever triggers me is just my problem. Just work through it as a software bug. It's probably from subconscious in, in the first 6 years. And I learned a lot of strategies on how to fix that quickly. And, you know, you— how many kids do you have?

I've got 2 stepkids, 3 grandkids.

Already? Yeah. So yeah, for me personally, my kids triggered me the most. Why? Because they're me. Yeah, they're just mirroring it too hard. And luckily I can work through this And it's amazing. And I teach it, teach them at the same time. And we all make mistakes. So the main thing I want to do is like make sure they get amazing people and they don't kill each other on the way. Like, don't do all the mistakes I did when it comes to hurting yourself. Not necessary. But just enjoy life, be grateful, and you don't have to prove anything.

You know what I noticed? And I went through a really heavy nervous system reset. Oh, it's been about 3 months now because I couldn't figure out like, why am I Lacking compassion that I have, that I want. It's just not coming out. Why am I so snippy and so— Yeah, so short-fused. Short-fused. And you know what I've learned going through this is the people that are the most stoic, the most hard-ass, the most everything, have the most built up that they're hiding that they don't even know that's in there sometimes, that have gone through things that have bothered them. And stuff started coming out of me that I had put away that I didn't even know was there.

Yeah.

And once I was able to release it and get that nervous system reset, I'm not stuck in that sympathetic state all the time, which you get to real easy, especially with you and I when we are go, go, go. You don't even realize it because you're so busy.

Exactly. You just achieve, achieve, achieve. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I agree. There was a time when in my 30s, I probably was— I even cut down sleep, right? Yeah. If I sleep 2 hours before midnight, they count double. So I can wake up at 4:00 AM and smash the workout, right? And then put it in, teach on the weekend, write at least 1 article per week, and XYZ. I know, man. Insane. I mean, I'm happy that I did it because I can, but I realized that I think roughly around when I was 36 years old, so 2019, I felt something is moving, changing. Something changed. It was a period of time. And I think I realized I was just performing, doing. I probably just, I don't know, subconsciously make my dad proud or whatever. Good things. But I realized, okay, the way I work these days, there is literally zero time left to do more. And I'm already losing my family. I will probably, if I continue, I'll probably lose my wife or family or die.

Yeah.

Because I'm just burning myself on— burning the candle on both ends big time. Why? Because I probably can, but luckily realized it. And I think around 40-ish, I got sick again. Ah. Very badly sick. And this happens to me as extreme, and I always call that the Game Boy of life. That is my next level. It's always against me. It's always extreme. It's fast. It's extreme, but it shakes up everything. And I came out and I was like, oh, that's actually me. That wasn't even me. I was just performing. And I realized all this. And of course, it's a lot of spiritual things attached. But it was so easy then. It's like, oh, you know, I don't have to do anything. It's just like it comes through. And it's not just you doing things, it's literally just being you.

Yes.

But it takes a while. And this is why I have— I probably resonate with a lot of sympathetic high performers. I do have a ton of them in my office, and I can just guide them because I know about every neurotransmitter deficiency. I know about the dopamine and all these hits because I'm a dopamine-dominant person, and I had the depression with 20, right? Yeah. So I know how to burn it. And usually what we are missing is just a break.

Yeah.

We never take the foot off the gas. Why? Because we can.

Yeah.

And if you look at it from a Chinese medicine perspective, just assuming I'm a— it's called a wood type person. Have you ever heard of Chinese medicine? Oh yeah. So the elements, right?

Several on here, yeah.

So I'm a wood person, assume you too. So it's all about growth, and the wood character is very interesting because for us, sport is actually medicine. I do sport just to ground myself.

Oh yeah.

But at the same time, our medicine is also the nemesis. We never do a break. We never stop. I have to forcefully stop me because I would always do more, more, more. And the good thing is, if you learn all this on yourself— and that's what I mean by learning and practicing through osmosis— I show up, I show up to my team, my team lives the same way, they eat the same way, they eat real food, and they're They have the culture. This is the main thing in my office is I'm only interested in the culture, having a good time, showing up, taking responsibility, and then guiding our patients. You could even call them guests, like our patients do the journey to optimum health so that they learn as much as possible and have an amazing museum of life experience and just a non-traumatic opposite of what they experienced before. And of course, after these phases, they come out with beautiful, nice, healthy teeth too. So it's both. It's not even contrary to dentistry. is literally the dental evolution finally happening if they would accept it. It takes a little while. We're at 0.0001%. Mm-hmm.

If we can get to 1% or even 10% in my lifetime, I think would be amazing. But I mean, let's take moonshots, right? And just change the world. And I think because of what you're doing, sharing, I mean, you speak about it, you have an amazing reach. You share because you're on that path too. And if we would do that all together and leave the egos out, just align as the wolf pack, I think we can literally change dramatically everything. It's possible for the first time in life. So I think we're living in the perfect time. Yeah, I don't want to complain at all. I love life.

There's nothing to complain about, right?

You

know,

why would you complain?

You know, so I always lived by this all gas, no brakes. That was like my thing. But you know how people will say, well, I— and, and I, I say this because it's, well, I'll sleep when I die. A lot of people will say that, and I tell them in retort— and, and I just started practicing this like 4 or 5 months ago where I started prioritizing sleep. I said, no, if you don't sleep enough, you'll die sooner. Because when you don't let your body reset, you start to see chronic long-term problems from not sleeping. And sleeping actually is where your body recovers, where your testosterone production comes in, where your growth hormone production comes in. I can make a list of everything that happens while you sleep. And if you don't do that, you're throwing your body's like axis and the way it's, it's set up to run. So you think about a machine, right? And you never turn it off, or you don't give it the proper times to cool off, rest, whatever, whatever, whatever. What's going to happen?

Oh yeah, it's breaking.

It's breaking, right?

That is actually a very good example.

It's it, man. And so that's, that's the, the beauty of actually talking this out and saying it out loud. Yeah. And giving something to where it resonates with people. Because dude, you know what, man? You know why a lot of these shows and everything— because I'm not anything special or great, but I'll tell you what I do well. is that I come on here and I talk the real shit. Yeah. You know, everybody here tries to be real proper, read off a paper. You probably have given the same show 35,000 times, and I bet we've talked about 25 different things you've never talked about everybody else. Because I want people to see who they're coming to see, not just what you do. Everybody knows what you do, but they don't know you. And I want people to see you so then they know, okay, this is the guy that I'm going in to work on me, not the guy that can tell me all the facts in the world in the textbook. There's a million smart people in the world, but how many of you are there? There might be 30 dentists that do what you do.

I don't know if there's or not, but let's say there's 30. Yeah, how many of them are you? How many people know what you know, what you do, what drives you, the passions you have, what you went through? That's why we're here, brother, so that I can show people who you are. We can talk some other stuff. Now, you know—

This is why we do in-person stuff.

That's exactly why, man, and that's the reason. People that have this opportunity in this platform, I don't want to say it pisses me off, but it kind of does because I feel like that people with big voices waste it because they're so worried about their fucking ads and what they can say and do to draw money. Look, I got to make money. I want to make money too, but I want you to watch my show for a purpose and a reason so that I can spotlight people. This isn't the Dylan Show. I mean, it might be called that, but this is the whoever I'm on show. All right, this is my job. is to show who you are. Amazing. That's why I'm good at what I do because I'm good at leading. You know what I mean? And I can go back and forth with you and talk on 30 different topics. But man, people are so— they get super selfish and they don't care about anything. And I just can't stand it.

I think it's the same. I even call my community Real Bout It. And it's in short, Real B. Like real bees equals be real.

Yeah.

I can't fake anything. I'm just being me. I just want to say what I want to say and it's great. And exactly, I do not do any— most of— I don't want to say no, but I said no to a lot of podcasts because it felt like it's the same thing over and over again. I'm talking about a root canal, I'm talking about cavitation. Even if I see my Instagram, sometimes I'm just, oh, is that still the same? How can we display that the main goal is— you know that the word inspiration comes from the Latin word inspirare, which basically means being in spirit. Mm-hmm. And I just want to make sure that we can inspire as many people as possible and guide them to optimal health. And for that, we have to be our true self because only that will resonate and speak the truth. Right? Be real. I mean, real. Even the format on Instagram is called Reel.

Yeah.

And I mean, you see it, AI takes over. And I think what happens is that people get put off.

Yeah, they do. 100%.

And I think I don't sometimes even know, but it feels like if I'm just being me and I think nothing, actually, my mind is literally like a kid.

Yeah.

I'm having so many ideas.

That's it, man.

Just let it all out, right?

That's why when we do this, it's like, okay. Synchronicity, right? Let's dig in here and let's talk some shit and let's have some fun and let's get into it to the real side of things. I do want to ask you, so we were talking, you were talking about your process earlier about what we do here or what you do here. So, I want to get a good clear picture and understanding. So, let's just take me. All right, let's say I'm coming in now. You've seen my x-ray. I think I've had 25 root canals, something like that. And I've had one— so there's 4 sides of wisdom teeth, right? I had one out. So let's just use me as an example of what the process would be for me so people can grasp somebody that screwed up. Yeah. Pretty bad. Like, what would you do? Like, I'm gonna fly to Germany, right? After we have our assessment, you and I are gonna have some sort of assessment where I send you x-rays, right? Online. And then you're gonna take a look at those, get a game plan. So then I'm gonna come to see you. So what's What's the first— is it week look like, or what is the whole breakdown of what you're going to do for me?

So, first of all, obviously, we discuss your case and plan it, kind of like planning the remodeling of your house.

Yeah.

And, it's actually great that you had a perfect example of what is possible to compensate because I'm so curious to see what will happen if we work on your mouth.

We're going to.

Yeah, of course, I know we do, but this is how I approach it. It's like, oh, wow, this dude has so much health more in him. let's see what's all happening. And you're already compensating it quite well, right? So yeah, we see the x-ray, the 3-dimensional x-ray, and then plan everything. You will have the guidance for nutrition supplementation before you even come in. You want to talk about what happens when you fly in, right?

Yeah.

So once you fly in, on day 1 is obviously a clinical examination. I have a team, right? It's not always going to be me for everything.

Yeah.

But a team of doctors. So We will obviously do a dental examination on top of everything I've already seen remotely because the real deal is when you're there.

Yeah.

But we can be, I would say 90% already quite solid with the x-ray and the 3-dimensional one. Clinical examination, that's the normal dental stuff, photos, all these things. But we'll also put you in the health lounge. You're gonna go on the in-body scan. We're gonna see what's under the hood and how to optimize the rest of it. You're already optimized. I don't need to do anything for you, but most people are not, to be fair.

Right.

And, day 1 is just getting data, data, data, data on how can we help you optimize your journey to optimal health starting from the mouth in that first week. Day 2 is usually removal of any sort of metals. Some people have really metal fillings, the black ones, the murky ones. They need to be taken out very safely because the drilling is where the exposure happens. Yeah. And, we want to make sure that 99.9% you do not get more mercury vapor into you. Take out all the metals safely and remove— some people have crowns that have metal underneath, so metal-infused crowns. So, that's day 2. But, at the same time, you're going to be in the facility or in the clinic the whole day because we're not just doing the dental intervention. You start with a very good IV cocktail to set you into parasympathetic mode.

Yeah.

Supporting you with healing nutrients. but also relaxing you. Various different measurements, also frequency. If you tolerate it, we do hyperbaric oxygen for sure before surgery, laser in your veins, couple of modalities. So, you're probably there for 5, 6, 7 hours on day 2. On day 3 usually is when we do the surgical approach. And, everyone is afraid of surgery because surgery is such a bad word. Actually, I think the dental part, the taking out the metals and root canals, the metals and the drilling is way more extreme than any sort of surgery. We just call it surgery because it's maybe a scalpel involved and maybe a bit more blood. However, the surgery, the way we, or I personally approach surgery is it's how can I make sure that your body heals as fast as possible? Right. So zero trauma. I'm not a masculine surgeon that I learned to speed is king and you look like Rocky Balboa hit your face for 2 rounds, 2 weeks after, and only liquid diet.

Right.

My goal again is doing a surgery in a way that you have ideally no pain, no swelling. It's not always possible. As little as possible. Sure. It's possible. So we'll take out all the root canals safely and we wiggle them out. There's no yanking, no ripping. It's the opposite. We clean that, we use ozone, we use PRF, we do all the things you can imagine. And you had your IV, your hyperbaric also on that day. We also spin your blood to do PRP and PRF. All that is That is inclusive. But when you're on the chair with me or with all the other surgeons, I'm definitely going to be there for you, for sure. Right. You're not sedated. Don't even think about it, because that is the healing part. I'm going to talk you through every little bit. I give you feedback constantly. I'm coaching you through this. It's a different approach. And I have friends of mine that are very scared of the dentist, and they were like, I'm not happy that we don't do sedation. And almost all of them fell asleep, except, you know, Chris Gethin is one of my good friends.

Chris is my guy.

Chris is your guy. So Chris was on the chair and his Oura Ring picked up a deep sleep while I removed his titanium implant.

Wow.

Another good friend of mine, Nick Mitchell, um, he was lit— he didn't like the fact that I'm gonna work on him and he's not sedated. I took out titanium implants, he snored. So

Maybe I'm just boring as fuck. No, I passed out in a chair getting drilled. I mean, I sleep on the drop of a dime, so I'm sure when I'm with you, it's gonna be real bad.

Exactly, but it's constant feedback. And what I'm making you aware is, and also my whole team is, they know exactly what to do and how to guide, and they're all there for you. You just basically have to show up and we take care.

Yeah.

So, on that day, constant feedback means I'm an extrovert, so I'm thinking outside. So, I'm literally asking, are you okay? Is everything fine? And then we tell you, to focus only on breathing, like box breathing. And this part, your mouth, let us take care. And what you do from here downwards, you feel your whole body, kind of like you project yourself from the above and like you would see yourself from the outside. Yeah. And feel. Don't think, just feel. So I'm gonna tell you once I wiggle out the root canal, and then initially you feel maybe a twitching here, or you feel, depending on the sensitivity of your body. But I have, like, even a friend of mine is Ido Portal. He was there and he's like, he's the movement king. If you haven't had Ido on your show, you need Ido.

You got to get Ido.

Oh, Ido Portal, check him out. He's a great dude. So he's so fine-tuned like myself. He's like, ah, you pulled that root canal, I feel it here. And then it's all connected because the fascia goes from here to your toe. Right. And everything, your tongue goes to your toe, right? It's all connected. So I'm taking out the stress. And my friend Jim Quick says the issue is in the tissue. Right. And it's completely correct, but I have to guide you. So it's psycho-emotional trauma, everything at one. And maybe it takes 5 hours, 6 hours, maybe it takes 3. Because you're not sedated, I'm aware, like a trainer. I know exactly this is how much I can push you. And if it's too much, we don't have any stress. I'll continue the next day or the day after. We're never fully booked out. Why? Because we have to be in a non-stressed state. It's all about you being present for you. It will take the time you need. And the next day and the next day and the next day, you're going to be in the health lounge doing IVs, red light, hyperbaric, everything you can do, whatever we decide for you.

to heal. And once you leave, you have a complete solid game plan— how to eat, how to nourish, how to take care of these implants that are healing right now. If these implants are in the front area where you see, like yourself, I don't want to leave you with gaps, right? Yeah. You're gonna have a fixed temporary on top. You look better than before.

Yeah.

And you can even eat, but obviously not super hot stuff because it's like you're leaving with the cast. You cannot do a chin-up at the same time. Okay. It has to heal. But literally, if you, you're a little bit cognizant, actually bite it a few more times, it's also good for your digestion. Um, you're good, you're solid. And then the implants heal with you. So if you take a step back and think about it logically, why would we take out a tooth? The normal approach is we take out a tooth, a dentist takes out your tooth, the root canal is infected, needs to come out, right? Mm-hmm. Why do they not place an implant straight away? Or why do you actually use metal? But anyways, if they would do a ceramic implant, why not straight away? Take out a tooth, you have something called the socket. Your body's in a healing mode. We make sure you are. So what happens if you don't replace? The socket collapses. That's called alveolar atrophy. It's like if you don't train your bicep, it's gonna go away. Yeah. You don't use it, you lose it. So it's collapsing. So we will— the normal dental approaches, we take out your tooth, we wait 3 months, we realize, oh, we lost bone.

We need a 3-dimensional X-ray again, plan a bone grafting. Maybe we can do straightaway implant, or we need another 6 months to wait. In this time, you already have your teeth and everything is healed. I cannot guarantee an immediate ceramic implant, but I'm planning it that way if possible. And if I get bone where I can place the implant, the implant is the bone graft.

Yeah.

It's holding there already. It's a diameter of 4.6 to 5.4 millimeters that the body doesn't have to heal.

Yeah.

It's just a tiny gap around. And of course your body thinks, hey, there's still a tooth. tooth so it doesn't collapse. So it's just the best possible intervention. Would I love to not take out your tooth and have you all have my teeth, like the healthy teeth? Of course. That is Dentistry 4.0. That means my kids will never see a dentist for any repair. They don't even need braces. But we're not there yet. Right now we're in a phase where we have to repair previous dental repairs such as yourself. So we have to have our skills still. But yeah, you leave with the complete game plan. You know exactly what to do. You have teeth. You almost had no trauma. You will tell me what happened overall. That's why I'm curious.

Yeah.

Because I'm— that's interesting for me. I'm like, oh, Dylan has this, this, and this. And you will write down your health journal for the next 6 to 8 weeks to see what's happening.

Yeah.

And then this is the biggest detox of your life. It's not the juice cleanse, it's literally taking out— you will see what we're taking out. Um, rotten teeth, because a dead tooth is rotten. Even though any endodontologist will tell you it's not a dead, dead organ, it's dead. You took out the blood supply, the lymph supply. You can bite on it, yes, but it's not alive anymore.

Yeah.

And it decomposes. So it's literally nasty underneath. Taking this out, the metals out, everything, you will see on, on the spot. I can photograph this, videos for you. This is the trash we take out. We have to remove the source first in order to help your body heal, because everything else is optimized. So your liver works perfectly. Liver phase 1 and 2 is, is, is streamlined in the nutrients that you're taking. Your body will detox. You will probably need some binders extra, but we're taking care of everything extracellularly, right? Mm-hmm. Once you come back in phase 2, let's see, everything healed perfectly, no, no second intervention. We never know. Sometimes you have to redo stuff, sometimes the body didn't heal right. That's normal. But let's say perfect approach, 99%, you come back, everything's healed. What we do next is we measure intracellularly. We go into cellular health. We look into what has been left intracellular, heavy metal urine chelation, checking for real heavy metal in in your cell. Yeah, meaning chelation means— you know what chelation is? Yeah. The chelation, for anyone that doesn't know, is it's not just a binder or any herb. It's literally medical intervention with IVs to pull out toxins that are stored in the cell membranes or in tissues.

Why now? Because now the source is removed. You should never do chelation while the source is in the mouth because you just redistribute. Take out the source, let the body heal, then go intracellularly. Otherwise, osmosis will ruin it for you. Then we measure, we see, oh, there's heavy metals coming out. We have to take care of intercellular stuff. So maybe that's where the next journey is at. And we will take a lot of time fixing your microbiome. The biggest part for fixing the microbiome and your whole gut is obviously starting in the mouth. Yeah. Taking out previous dental repair, all the nasty chronic stuff will change your whole microbiome. Your oral microbiome is in the mouth. 50% of the gut microbiome comes from the mouth because of swallowing, right?

Yeah.

If you change your diet and take out all the previous dental repair in that week, your microbiome changes from here to the back door.

Right.

Right? And then you eat the right food and substrate, it will change. That's there forever. However, and we also take care of a lot of chronic infections that we know from DNA reports, root canals harbor anaerobic bacteria, parasites, viruses, fungi, even Lyme, oftentimes mold connected. It's all gone, right? The source is gone. But when you come back in that phase 2, we check for heavy metals and we check for parasites. Because parasites, by that I mean worms and stuff, stuff that you couldn't treat because you maybe have your pets at home, intracellular entities and infections.

Yeah.

It's always, it's very simple to heal a whole body. See it as buckets. We have to deal with physical body, physical, mental, spiritual. And if one bucket is, let's say, chronic inflammation and environmental toxins, then the biggest bucket is probably the dental repair because already everything else you can do with your lifestyle, right? Take that out. So this bucket goes lower, goes lower. But also in there is chronic infection. A lot of the chronic infection has been dealt with by taking out the root source. Yeah. So that sinks, but maybe unresolved psychoemotional trauma piles up or intracellular parasites. So we always have to just work on balance. It's all just about modulating. It's not about killing anything. It's just we're designed beautifully by nature.

Yeah.

How can we get back there? And you didn't come out to this planet from— through your mom with previous damage repair, right? Which attracted parasites and opportunistic infections. And maybe they are there because of your past spirit and what you all attracted, right? It's a full-on healing journey. And I have a huge network globally with amazing functional medicine practitioners. So I'm not gunning for anyone, even though I am a functional medicine practitioner. I'm just saying, hey, this is the missing link that should be attached to every longevity clinic or whatever is popping up right now. And very early in the career, not after 10 years ticking off a box, hey, I have a root canal, but yeah, we can deal with this in 15 years' time. Maybe this one was the one thing holding you back from getting pregnant. And I'm not saying that this is why you can't get pregnant. This is why they get wrong on my Instagram. They're always hating. They're like, this dude is a surgeon. He's telling women out there, that they will be pregnant when they see him. What a bullshit. That's not what I'm saying. Like, it's just a snippet.

I'm saying, hey, this woman has tried everything, even in vitro, but her body was still in chronic stress mode. That's why she can't conceive, because she can't be in parasympathetic mode. I had to take out a root canal. I didn't know it was happening, and the cavitation, and suddenly—

Right.

Pregnant. That's happened a lot. So it's just one detail. Wherever you are on your journey to optimal health, if it's mental health problems, if it's skin eczema, if it's joint pain, if it's not getting pregnant, if it's not getting right muscle, having low testosterone, I'm just saying, if you try everything else, don't forget that part. Yeah, because it's a big leverage. It's the biggest detox of your life. Did that make sense?

Oh, hell yeah.

Okay, cool.

Yeah, absolutely. No, you have to have a broad mind and understanding of the different things that cause problems and when you exhaust and you can't find the issue, you know, a lot of times people find they have mold toxicity or something that they never, never saw. So why would it not make sense that perhaps you have a severe problem with your teeth and that was the problem? You're not saying it's the cure for everything, but it's certainly possible if you go in and fix it or address it that it could be the issue. There's nothing wrong with saying that.

No, I mean, it's all— the only thing I'm saying is actually it's all connected.

Yeah.

So if you just take a step back and think logically, What is the one thing that you haven't addressed yet but you didn't come to this planet with? And we're talking epigenetics here. Epigenetically speaking, you're an altered human being if you had previous dental repair.

Right.

I had no previous dental repair, but they took my wisdom teeth. So I have personal experience from the cavitation side. So cavitations, for layman's terms, is chronic silent inflammation in the jawbone that can happen after any tooth extraction. I'm asking the root— I'm asking the wisdom tooth question because in the Western world, to be true, 80% out there listening had their wisdom teeth pulled.

Yeah.

Because we are living in a world that is de-evolutionized, right? So, but my friend, Professor Shahram Ganati, he is professor at University of Frankfurt. 5 years ago, he told me cavitations, NICo, that's other names for it. NICo stands for neuralgia-inducing cavitation osteonecrosis. Same word for these chronic inflammations of jawbone or cavitations or FDOJ. What a bullshit. However, he's open-minded enough to say, wait a second, what if he's correct? So now he has a university, he has like triple doctor, and he's only dedicated to sciences. So now he's teaching cavitation surgery for beginners and visiogenics and showing people, hey, I was wrong. Yeah. I'm a professor. But I'm able to change. And he put out a paper this year, or was it last year? Doesn't matter, where he was able to show cavitations, in layman's terms, happen after every tooth extraction.

Wow.

Why would I be as ignorant going out there telling my patients that is not correct? It's bullshit. Just because I didn't learn in university?

Yeah. What? That's ridiculous.

I mean, we even— I even— this is a mindset thing. I even showed cavitation surgery to people and they said not existing even though they saw it. I'm like, what are you thinking? And then there's other people that are open-minded. It's like, oh wow, how could I have missed it? Now I see it. Now I have to help. And that was me. So, I was—

Just think about this, how nonsensical that just sounds. Like the people that say stuff about, oh, if you didn't learn it in school. Does anybody ever teach you how to balance a checkbook in school or what credit is or how you actually buy a home or do it? You don't learn any of that stuff. What do you take in school that's not history, math, and English. How to sew, how to do home ec, how to do artwork that you're never going to do, how to sing. That's what you— that's what you take at school. Like, come on, man.

It's funny, it's funny you say it. In school, I literally remember after school we learned nothing about nutrition, right? My brother and me, we didn't even know how to cook potatoes.

That's just it.

Why do you not learn stuff like that everyone needs?

When people start doing that stuff, and me, you lose me, because I care about being in the trenches, learning with thousands of people that you work on. Like, for me, with peptides, the reps, right? Yeah. So, I've worked with thousands of people that I've monitored on peptides and other things over the last decade because I found them so early. So, you're telling me, granted, we don't have something super long-term, but I've witnessed and exhibited every single thing that I've seen. And so, I know and I have an idea of what works while I got other people telling me, oh, well, this study said this. And, well, your study manipulated everything and was a group of 65-year-olds that ate like shit and did this and did that. And it's like, you got the outcome you wanted. Don't fuck with me. I know what I'm doing. You know what I mean?

Exactly. And I think the core truth is that we actually sign as doctors is do no harm.

Yeah.

And science actually is stuff that is not researched yet. At least that's what I believe. Science is new things that we're not discussing. Yeah, evolution goes like this, right?

Yeah.

So it's, it's the evolution, and there need to be pioneers that go out there and find new worlds even and just do it. And everyone else tells them it's not possible and they do it anyways, right? So that's the approach. So when I wrote the book It's All in Your Mouth, like in 2018, I was so heavily attacked for ceramic implants and the root canal topic. I get why, but now it took us— I think it was '18. So in '23, because of our clinical work with ceramic implants, their medical guideline in Germany, the highest ever guideline ever So now we flip the script. Wait a second, you didn't learn about ceramic implants. What, what's happening here, right? You have to have the content now. So it's all ever evolving. And if someone tells me tomorrow— and this is coming a lot on socials, like people sending me videos of people regrowing teeth— hey, I'm the first one to adopt that. Yeah. If that works, why not? If ceramic implant is only for short term and then we learn how to regrow or a better material, I'm the first one to adopt if it works.

But I'm going to test it on me first. Yeah. And I want to see, does this work? And I have a lot of reps in the game. This is also something that I don't want to say criticize. I think it's all good. But oftentimes on social media, and I think that's what you just meant, there's many people with loud voices. They're n equals 1. They don't have expert status. They didn't see thousands and thousands of patients. They just have themselves.

Yeah.

And I mean, they're great. I don't want to say anything bad, but they're great that they put out the information. it's sometimes cult-like and people just follow them.

Yeah.

But it feels like they change oftentimes a lot because they're, first of all, not there yet. They didn't master yet. And it's only one person. Yeah. There's no reps. No. And they're the people that sing about it. But who are the people that fight on the front lines like Vikings?

You will see. I have a podcast that I did, a solo one myself, that is coming out about the people that put out content that just want clicks and they make these crazy topics that they put out that actually hurt people because it's all nonsense. And then these people say stuff that they pull off a study or it sounds good to get people to watch and it creates confusion. And then, they start to believe their own nonsense that they start spewing. They really double and triple down. And, it's like the people that'll basically at this point people say, well, what can I even eat anymore? How do I live in my house?

Yes.

There's no balance or understanding. It's gone from one extreme to the other extreme. And, I said that biohacking or this movement was created and intended to go against the other side that we weren't getting what we needed. And now you're becoming exactly what you despised because all you care about is selling something or saying something that you know is fabricated or doesn't make sense, or you created it to sound a certain way to get clicks.

So I think, yeah, but I think this comes down probably to integrity, right?

Yes, yes, yes, yes, 100%. And lack thereof.

Or lack thereof. And I think, yeah, if you, if you're just real, and this is maybe what I think what we need to get to, this is— I'm not an influencer, Yeah. That social media thing grew by itself with the purpose of just helping as many people as possible get information. And I think it's good, but it needs to be used intentionally. And I think one of our goals is, and Tim Gray, one of my best friends who has health optimization, we found ourselves, when I was looking for the lone wolf pack, for the wolf pack, I found him and his tribe because he shares that He's mission-led like myself and not ego-led. So we wanna make health fashionable. And I think we can only do it by practicing teaching and preaching and aligning with other people and then actually collaborate. Why are we not collaborating? That's— We should do collabs and just change everything. I don't know how to do it, but it's just what I'm always thinking is like, if we both, like all the patients that follow me and that come see us, how am I able to make sure that I don't answer this question to one patient but millions at the same time because they're all searching for it?

How can we align to be a huge voice and guide people with clear intentions and integrity?

One of the daily prayers that I say, and I'll finish with this, and I always say this prayer of, would you please intercede somehow to align all of the people that have voices and platforms to, to work together and stop making it about themselves and to be more about your messaging. Because God's messaging is to heal and help people. It is to provide love. It is to instill faith, hope, and love, right? So to be an inspiration, to teach and to guide, not to confuse and not to convolute. And I always say, this is not about you. It's not about me. It's not about any of us. It's about everybody else out there that needs the gift that you have, that I have, that everybody else. And when you use it right, you gain You're the richest you've ever been because you're rich in what matters is helping people, changing the world. You and I'll get whatever we need if we do the right things. I already know that.

Yeah.

That's a given. But when that's all you live for and you care about how you look and who's saying what about you and who's following you and who's highlighting you and putting a story out on you. You know how many times I've gotten asked to go on news shows and all of this other shit? And I said, man, I don't want any of that. I don't need that. What I need is a platform so people can hear my voice and so that they can hear what I have to say with others. That's what I want. I don't care about you telling me I'm great or whatever. That doesn't do anything for me, man. That doesn't— that does nothing for me. I don't give a shit. I care about you telling me, Dylan, the guest you had on or something you said, man, what that did for my life, what it did for my kids, what it did for my marriage or my health, or just made me feel like I had hope. Then I sleep extremely well and know, damn it, I have a purpose that is fulfilled. You know, that's it.

Perfect, man. I mean, you nailed it. It's all about the purpose and helping as many people as possible. That's it. That's it. It's so simple.

Yeah. So check this out, man. I know we're out of time. Um, are we? Yeah. Oh yeah, we're— we rolled so fast. It's— I have like 500 more questions for you. So what I'd like to do is invite you back for another one, whether it's here when I come to see you.

Oh yeah.

You know, and maybe when I come see you, we'll record out there before you start going to town on my fucked up mouth. But, um, we'll record again because I want to go over some other aspects about like how the— our dental health affects the heart and our cellular health and the gut, like, like break down the science of it. Yes. But I wanted to spotlight you today and who you are and then what you do so people know this is the guy working on me, this is where he came from, this is what drives him, this is who it is. And then next time we'll get into more of the, the science and health side. But I, I will invite you back again for sure, and I look forward to doing a lot more with you, I hope. I know that you're in Germany, but that doesn't matter. So, my friend, thank you for your work, for what you've done, for being different, for being willing to go against the grain to make a difference. Tell everybody where to follow you, and I'll link it in the description.

Okay. Thank you. Thank you so much. The easiest is probably Instagram. It's Dr.— because you said Dom, right? It's Dr. Dome. It's German for Dom. So, it's D-R-D-O-M-E and the number 1. That's the handle. And I think there's a link in the bio where you can find my institute, the BGS Institute. If you're a dentist, you find the clinic in Germany and everything else I've created, multiple podcasts, everything out there for free to, to guide you. That's it. And I mean, literally, we can change the world. And, um, now I'm in a phase where I'm gonna build this globally, so it's gonna be everywhere. It needs to be.

Well, I'm on the team now, man. You can't get rid of me. You're stuck with me, my friend.

I love it.

Thanks for coming to see me.

It's awesome.

All right, everybody, that wraps up another one. So stay tuned for plenty more to come. Dylan Gemelli signing off.