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Good job, Chris.

Thank you.

Tuesday.

So on ESPN right now, they're doing the whole, the, the 24-hour fantasy marathon. Is going on right now.

Tell me your sleepers. Ah, best week of the year.

Are you old enough to remember, Chris, where when you're participating in fantasy football leagues doing everything by hand?

No.

Yep. I started playing fantasy football when I was 16. So we're talking 1997 before Al Gore's internet. And the only way to tally the scores, you had to wait until Monday morning and then do it again after Monday Night Football Tuesday morning. You would have to wait Monday morning for the newspaper to arrive on your doorstep and you would open up the— Juju is like stunned right now. And you would open up the sports section and you look at the box scores.

How did Ricky Waters do?

Yeah. And you tally up the points. It was the only way to do it.

Farrot, Ricky Waters.

I remember my first two ever fantasy football picks. So we're going to 1997, that season, 1997. I had the last pick of the round 12 team.

Emotional.

I had the last pick of the round, 12-team league, and you definitely want a Dolphin.

No.

And with the back-to-back picks, I went Jerome Bettis, the bus, Drew Bledsoe.

Nice good team.

You know, I'm 16. I didn't know you don't take a quarterback in the second round. I didn't know, you know. But still, it was a good team. Jerome Bettis, Drew Bledsoe were my first two picks.

I think one stop past doing it by hand that I remember was when if you wanted to have like really be on it for your draft, you go to the bookstore and you get a magazine.

Yeah.

There's no like— it was before the ESPN Top 300 printed out. It's give me that magazine.

Magazines are still out there.

People that still do the magazine, you are.

Well, the magazines are so dated because like they come on the bookshelves in like June and the season starts in September. You know? A lot of changes! But back then Juju I had to open up that newspaper you tally the scores by hand—

blahblahblahblablabla what?!

And it's not like there's an internet where you could keep track of the standings if you want to tell everybody in your league what the standings look like "Hey guys I got the standings here let me read it to you." You had to keep it all by hand. That's how it worked. How about, how about making your league schedule? You can't just open up a website and it gives you your schedule. You gotta make the schedule.

You're messing with us, right?

By hand.

You actually did this?

How else do you think it happened?

I just assumed—

Did it magically appear?

I mean, I've heard of these like by-hand fantasy leagues, but it's just, I didn't think they were that popular. I was like, I would have just waited.

That popular? How else did it happen?

At the time, if I were you, did you know technology was coming down the road? Like at that time I would have been like, I'm good. I'll wait. I'll do it in like 5 years.

No, I wanted to be in this right now.

The Jetsons didn't have like a, all right, let's— who first pick?

No, you gotta do it all by hand.

But I'm imagining at that time the Jetsons are ahead of you guys doing it the way we do it today.

My fantasy league that I'm in that I joined in my neighborhood, uh, started in 1976. Crazy.

Football or baseball?

Football. Wow.

And it's an— it's a crazy set of rules where you don't get points for a running back until he rushes for at least 60 yards. So 0 until 60. You've got kickers have way more points than any other thing. You don't get— wide receivers don't get any points until they get at least 5 catches or 60 receiving yards, and then it boosts like incrementally from there. Quarterbacks don't get a point until you throw for at least 200 yards.

Wow.

So it makes like— there's just Plenty of time. It's 20 rounds. 20-round draft. And you many days just go like many players just zero points, goose egg, goose egg.

Not gonna lie, that league sounds awful.

Bad league.

I agree, and it's expensive. I don't know why I keep doing it. I think it's the provenance of the '76.

So we had scandal in my league one year.

Scandal.

Because everything was done by hand. Including making the schedule. Like, the commissioner league, which was not me at the time, the commissioner of the league would have to make everyone's schedule. You still have to put it together by hand, and then, you know, you can, uh, I don't even know how it got distributed to everybody. Was there email back then? I'm not even sure.

And there was, there was email.

Okay, so it was email. So it was probably emailed to us, the schedule, and he would make it by hand. And this is in the year 2001, right? 9/11. 9/11 was 2001, and famously— and the year is not as famous. 9/11 is famous.

I remember.

Okay, and 9/11 2001 happens, and what happened to the league, right? The NFL postponed everything.

Thank you for clarifying which 9/11 year it was.

They pushed everything back, right? Right? Well, this meant that the league schedule was being pushed back for our fantasy league also.

I've never heard anyone describe it that way.

And you're, you're, you're, you're, you're forcing me to get off track here.

I forced you?

Yeah, that's right.

I've never heard 9/11/2001.

Yeah, usually people just say 9/11.

That's right, without the year. Oh, we're aligned.

But I'm trying to give you the year of when this all happened. It's not a story about 9/11.

It's a story about fantasy football.

Well, you can't assume it made it a 9/11 story.

The context of 9/11 is important because it pushed back the league schedule. Anyway, let me get back on track here. Let me get back on track here.

So we— That's why they say that.

So all of us in our league, we wanted to just keep the schedule as is, Juju, but let's just push everything one week back. That's simple, right? The commissioner of our league, he wanted to redo the entire schedule. Why the fuck would you redo the entire schedule? Well, we learned, once we did a deep dive, because the commissioner's schedule was facing teams every week when all the teams had their byes. All the players had their bye weeks. 'Cause you could do it by hand, he was able to finagle. We wanna keep it as is, push everything a week back, but that means he's not gonna be facing all the teams with their players on byes anymore. He wants to redo the whole schedule!

Yeah, but he used 9/11 as his Trojan horse.

2001.

Odyssey, great movie.

And if you tell them no, you can't do that, then you come off like someone who doesn't love the troops, who doesn't respect what happened that fateful night or day in 2001.

Big scandal.

Yeah, sorry, I forgot.

Salute to the FDNY.

It's a really big deal.

9/11 or the scandal?

I was gonna say including what happened in our fantasy football league. Really big deal.

Yeah, congratulations. Never thought I'd smile during one of those segments.

Well, I'm gonna give you something to smile about here. We have potentially— we don't know for sure— we have potentially another example of AEW— that's All Elite Wrestling— of AEW using a Greg Cody catchphrase. Now, are Juju and Trista aware of what we believe has been going on in AEW? Trista's shaking her head no. Juju, are you aware of what's going on here?

1000%.

So Trista, we are beginning to realize—

Juju's on the show every day.

We are beginning to realize— OK, thank you. We are beginning to realize that, you know what, that's a fair criticism of me. All right. That's fair.

If only he recapped every day for us.

That's completely fair. So I will speak specifically to Trista here. This wrestling show, and a lot of times it's the same wrestler that we're noticing when they're saying things and doing their promos, or when they're yelling at other wrestlers, we think they're using Greg Cody catchphrases in their, in their show. And we played several different examples because listeners now are watching out for it and sending it to us. I can't watch everything. I got my stories. I try and watch as much as possible, but sometimes things get past me, Trista. I'm living my life. And so we have a dad.

Yeah.

And so we have another example here. All right. From a recent episode of AEW wrestling. And give this a listen. It happens very early on in this clip. Gabe Kidd. Oh, Gabe Kidd is back, Jack. Now let's play it again real quick in case you missed it, because it's really quick in the beginning. Go ahead. Gabe Kidd. Oh, Gabe Kidd is back, Jack. So what does he say there? He says someone's name is back, Jack.

Gabe Kid.

Gabe Kid is back.

Gabe Kid.

Yeah.

Chris was confused.

Gabe Kid is back.

What'd he call that kid?

Jack.

I'm saying play on. Feels like back jack is used by everybody.

I'm with you.

Wow.

This is another one where Greg's head's getting a little big.

Wait. You, you don't think this is a thing?

Clark Connors looks like the type of guy that would say blackjack and didn't need Greg Cody's permission or inspiration for it.

Well, we're going to, we're going to try and get to the bottom of this this week, right?

Yeah. After much discourse on the show, I decided to reach out to some friends at AEW. Now it's a little, it's a big week for AEW. They have All In at Wembley Stadium this weekend on pay-per-view, and they're in Scotland for Dynamite. But I am happy to announce Clark Connors, the wrestler at the center of most of these incidents. Again, keep in mind, he's not the only person doing this. All right. Excalibur said something. Don Callis said something. MJF is selling a t-shirt.

Trista, you know about that Don Callis?

Not at all.

He's a real piece of shit, let me tell you.

Fine. I'm totally with you. Just like Juju rides for me no matter what the situation is, I ride for you. Piece of shit, that guy.

So Clark Connors will be joining us from Scotland. Tomorrow.

Wow.

And you know who else is going to be in studio tomorrow? Who's that, Mike? Greg Cody.

Nice. Nice. And Greg believes they are copying him, Trista. He believes they are absolutely using his catchphrases. I do too. There's been— and I was prepared to not believe it, but it's too many examples.

There are some examples that seem more clear than others. That one doesn't do it for me.

What's the most Greg Cody-ism that you've seen on AEW or heard on AEW?

They hit— they threw out a, we're rolling now, huh? Like it was the "huh" at the end the exact same way my dad says it. That one felt—

Also, he said a couple of times, "Who won?" Yeah, but then he said it a different way and it was more of a Baha Men tribute.

Yeah, the "who who" at the end.

Yeah.

Who made it a salad?

Who? They haven't— No, that was a sign. That was a sign from one of the fans.

A fan held up a sign saying, "Who made it a salad?" A lot of this is confirmation bias.

Greg is an egomaniac and he wants to see his inspiration everywhere. But I think some of these, maybe, maybe someone thought it was funny and put in a Greg Cody line, but not everything. Like, Greg Cody uses a lot of lines that have been used before, right? Backtrack, he didn't invent.

Stop pretending. Things like, that's what I'm talking about.

Uh, he did start that one though. I can vouch for him.

He started, hey, that's what I'm talking about.

Started it after I said it.

Yeah. No, you do a different thing.

It's not the same.

Right after you say, that's what I'm talking about.

That's what I'm talking about.

Yeah, but you copied Greg because he's much older than you.

I would never copy anybody.

Hey, that's what I'm talking about.

Everybody knows two things about me. One, I'm not a cuck. Two, I never copy anybody. Scandal.

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Context needs to be applied.

I was going for a joke and— I thought that context was applied. We'd like to rip that out of context. I was going for a thing.

Yeah.

And—

You're gonna—

I have a family. You're gonna pretend here that you don't love Matthew Tkachuk more than you love anybody you've ever loved? I don't love Matthew Tkachuk more than my daughter.

Mike Ryan!

No, it's pretty damn close.

This is the Dan Levitar Show! So we're gonna get to the bottom of this tomorrow. With Clark Connors.

Okay.

What's the time difference, Scotland?

I think they're 5 hours ahead.

So they're in the future.

No, that's not how it works.

It is. Do I have to tell you how time travel works?

I think that's the devil's time zone. I think Scotland—

Whoa!

Never heard that before.

Actually, we've learned more than that. You said if there's things we know about you, I have a list here of things we know about Zazz.

No, you don't.

Not a cuck.

Nope.

His son can challenge him every 6 months.

Yep.

His son loves Arab fighters. Yep. Zazzlo men haven't made a girl in 100 years.

That's true.

They love Thai food. Would never wear a beret. Easygoing. Doesn't eat with his name. Oh no, that's hands. Doesn't eat with his hands.

Yeah.

And you're a 4-3-3 guy in soccer.

Yeah, also, also, his Zaslow Mansion—

everyone knows that about me—

his, his Zaslow Mansion features the Brad Williams couch. Uh, listen to his podcast Height and Babble and see him on tour. The couch bought to you by Brad Williams.

It doesn't though. Brad did not get me new couch, so you're just giving Brad plugs and he didn't pay his end. You're just giving him free plugs. My Couch is not— everything Juju just said there, My Couch is not brought to you by Hite and Babel.

It's a great podcast.

But it's not brought to you by Hite and Babel.

Yeah.

Can I show you guys this video? So Houston, you know about Houston, right? You guys know about Houston?

H-Town.

And they, uh, they have police there. They also have Uber there. And in this video here, the police and the Uber, they work together to fight crime. And you may be saying, Zaslo, how is that even possible? All right, well, I'm gonna show you, all right? We'll let this play, and we could talk over it and describe what's happening here, but this is coming from the dash cam of an Uber driver. So there's an Uber driver who's parked on the road, and I guess you could tell that it's an Uber driver because You know, it's probably got like the lit up sign or whatever. And you can see here is Uber driver just chilling, and there's a man running across the street. He committed some kind of crime because there's police officer number 1 chasing him slowly, and police officer number 2, who is, uh, I guess you could describe a little bit of a straggler. All right, a little bit on the slower side here.

Ah, what are we doing to my guy?

Yeah, that's right. And she's keeping a tight perimeter, and she decides, oh, Let me get in this Uber now. Take me right over there, please.

Go, go that way, that way.

She's in the Uber now, go, go, go, go, go. All right, telling the driver to take me to the man we're chasing.

I would have been like, did you book this?

And now during the drive, look, now they open the door.

Which way did he go? Over there.

Go that way, please.

Oh, hell no.

The other cop gets in.

We're not doing this.

There's a cop in the first seat and in the back seat, and the Uber driver took them to the guy, and they get out and they proceed to chase him again.

Look, that's a veteran move by— he looks back, make sure they didn't forget their phone.

Chase is a strong suggestion of what they're doing right now.

They're walking, they're walking now, the police officers, once they got out of this.

Just an Uber? Yeah, like they just went to a restaurant. Like, was this a chase here?

Yeah, it's like, I don't— I wonder what the guy did who they're chasing.

Luckily he had that video set up in his car because if the criminal looks over and see you drop off the police, I'm telling the whole hood, boy. Bruh telling, bruh snitching. Get him out of here.

Now when the police officer jumped into the Uber, it's like, go, go, him over there. Like, I'm surprised, like, the Uber driver didn't just— that's not how Uber works. You gotta get out the app.

Ah, it's 2026 though, and, uh, he seemed like he might have been a brother from another, so I don't think you want to say that to the police.

But in the movies, you just have to flash your badge and you yank them out of the car. You say police and you boot them out. I'm commandeering this vehicle.

Yes, that's true. He would have got his ass beat. I'm gonna just say it. If you told them ladies no, you would have ended up in jail with bro.

I mean, look at this. You could see that the timestamp— this is from earlier this month, and it looks like it's just after midnight. It's at 12:26 AM. Nothing good happens if you're out after midnight. And yeah, female police— there's homeboy again, just running, trying to escape. She's not fast enough to catch him, but she's trying. And then the other police officer, a little bit on the heavy side.

You're not supposed to run together. You're supposed to space out. Well, give her some, give him some good backup.

You know, I got, I got a guilty admission. When I see police chasing, uh, criminals I always hope the criminal gets away. I'm so sorry.

Really?

Yeah.

I also hope the criminal gets away. Scandal.

I believe in law and order.

I mean, how shocked is this Uber driver? What do you want me to do? Where are we going?

Also, it's just not a good look for Houston. Houston is a city that I associate with Tex-Mex and 6-lane highways, and those police officers have been eating hella Tex-Mex.

Yeah, good Tex-Mex.

Allegedly.

Papacitos. A little chain out there. I saw this gnarly video. I can't toss to it because I wasn't like, it's not that gnarly to put it on the show, but I didn't know that this was the genre that we were going to. It was in Times Square. Did you see the video, the motorcycle video, where they were like arresting one dude that was on a bike on the ground and some like dude on a motorbike had no respect for authority and wanted to just blow past it? Because motorcycles kind of live in this in-between space where traffic laws don't apply to them because they can get away easily. And the cop just sticks his arm out and slams a guy to the ground.

Oh, wow.

And then a dude didn't learn that lesson. Another motorcyclist tries the same thing and he actually got away.

I can see this.

Because they operate in this weird space when it comes to traffic laws.

Scandal.

I'll try to find the video because he yanks a dude from the bike, which I'm like, I've always kind of wanted to do that. Without hurting anybody. But it looks cool. Like, he didn't jam his shoulder out of the socket or anything. He just grabbed the guy.

Bam!

Off a bike.

Also, during the Knicks championship celebration, Herschel Walker must be a fan of them because the cops had this guy cornered. My boy got up out of there. I'm talking about saxophones was playing as the cops was just looking around.

Salute, Herschel!

Herschel himself.

The ambassador.

I think he's also a cop.

Yeah. And an MMA fighter. One of the greatest dual athletes ever.

Famously only eats one meal a day.

What?

Yep.

I do that too. Not famously. Occasionally I cheat. Today we have shawarma kebab. But if I eat twice, it's within a 4-hour window. You know who told me that? Skip Schumacher. Nice. And he said, don't eat after 7 PM. He said nothing good happens after 7 PM.

You only eat once a day?

I aspire to, but it depends on how good lunch is here. And if so, then I make sure to eat dinner inside of 4 hours.

Don't you get hungry?

No, and I have an ulcer now, so that's good.

It sounds like everything's going well for you then.

Yeah, 40 ton of bricks.

I don't understand, eat one meal a day?

Yeah, it's a big meal, sustains me.

That doesn't sound healthy.

Thanks, I look good.

You do look good.

There you go, there we go, there was a compliment.

All right. How do you know you have an ulcer?

I can feel it.

Well, how do you know it's— how do you know it's an ulcer?

I've had one before and it feels like the same way.

What happened?

Right here, it's kind of like—

what do you even do? What does that even mean?

It'll heal itself.

But what, like, what is an ulcer, brother?

I'm trying to look up this motorcycle. Look, I'm more interested in this.

You already told the motorcycle story.

I'm trying to find— I can't find this video.

I want to know what an ulcer is.

An ulcer is an open sore on the lining of the stomach small intestine, ooh, or esophagus. It happens when stomach acid damages protective tissue, so you feel burning pain in the upper mid-belly, which is exactly where he said.

That's right there.

He gets bloating and burping, he gets heartburn and indigestion, and maybe, which we don't know, nausea and vomiting.

I haven't had that. I get full quick. I had this really rich meal, and sometimes a really rich meal will be the, the impetus for the ulcer. I was like, Why am I extra full? And then it's kind of stayed with me every day, getting a little bit better.

So you have an open sore in your stomach?

Yeah, I'll be all right.

And you're just hoping that's going to heal itself?

You know what helps? Not eating all that often.

I feel like ulcers are things that you contract when you're stressed, right? Isn't that a stress thing?

Yes. Are you sure it's not gout?

My boy Zazz is made of questions.

Yeah, I need that video.

Yeah, you might have gout.

Yeah, I don't have gout.

Gross.

I don't have gout. My digits are fine.

I've had gout.

I have an ulcer. And yes, open the news.

I'd gout in my big toe.

You don't know.

No, no. And not a big— I did in my knee. I'm sorry. Big toe is a very common place to get gout. I had it on my knee, which is also a commonplace.

King's disease, they call it.

Rich man's disease. Yep. King's disease. You're right.

Mike has got big feelings. If Mike is looking at the news and getting an ulcer from the news, Mike is one of the more high-feeling men that I know.

It's like, eat his cat.

And we should all have ulcers actually, watching this damn regime.

Yeah, mail-in voting, it's out.

What kind of—

no, they get to pick and choose who's okay. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Homeland Security, I'm sure, will develop a nice little roster.

Ulcer.

Have you guys seen this story? This broke, I think it broke yesterday morning, okay? And we didn't get around to it yesterday, where San Francisco 49ers owner, he's called Jed York, and he was arrested for prostitution. And if that's not strange enough, alright, you know, it's embarrassing, arrested for prostitution, but apparently he was arrested in near a trailer park, you know, trailer homes. That's apparently where he was doing the solicitation. Now, you'll have to excuse me for not exactly knowing, A, how billionaires live their lives, but also, B, how prostitution works. But I would say if I was a billionaire or even a millionaire and I decided to go get a lady of the night, It wouldn't be in a trailer park. Like, isn't there a difference? Where would you go? Well, I think I would go to an escort service is where I would go. I don't think I would be pulling up to the trailer park.

Where the whores?

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My algorithm on Instagram is dance all boobs. Jonathan Sasslo. It's a good algorithm. This is the Dan Levitar Show. Am I the only one who thinks it's Is it odd that a billionaire is pulling up to the trailer park?

Alright, so—

If I'm a billionaire, I got someone handling this for me.

So, some context here, alright? I'm glad that we were responsible yesterday because we treated this just like a news item and we held our opinions to ourselves because as the day went on, there were more details. Now, while circumstantially that does seem like the going rate for trailer park whore, he was arrested at the trailer park.

How much was it?

So we've heard.

So $140.

$140 bucks.

Which is—

allegedly.

Get what you pay for.

Some people have tweeted, "That's less than my fantasy dues." I have no context on whether that's good or bad. So this might be an unfortunate thing. People see the price and say clearly that's a going rate for a trailer park prostitute, but he was just merely arrested near the trailer park. So people are jumping to an unfair conclusion.

Mmm. That's elitism. Maybe she lives in a perfectly good house near the trailer park.

Well, it says here he was arrested upon arriving at a mobile home park in East Palestine, Ohio.

There's conflicting reports on that. And he did file for divorce in May.

I often have to cut through a trailer park to like— it's just an easier route.

So on your way to a prostitute?

No, I'm just saying I often, because of my neighborhood, the way my neighborhood's set up, like I do cut through so I could be pulled over in there and I would— I'm just passing through.

Yes, that could have—

I'm just saying you're just throwing out things that could have been and you're getting offers all over the place, right?

No, I've never gotten an offer. I was just giving my bona fides on the trailer park.

Oh, Tahoe?

Oh, I mean, we used to work on South Beach. I got way more offers there than I did.

Yeah, but it was more like drugs.

It would be walking by, coke, weed.

Yeah.

Lao, lao, lao.

Got that fire, got that gas, got that gas. I don't know about my look. I just, they think I'm interesting.

You look like you're about that gas.

Billy Gill never got it. I got it weekly.

Yeah.

He's worth an estimated $8.5 billion with a B, billion dollars.

It's a kink. It's a kink. That's got— that has to be what it is to slum it.

Yeah.

Like, let's just see how the other half live.

Maybe my boy fell in love, man. Like, like you say, we fell in love. Hey, look, T-Pain has a song.

What's your real name?

Exactly. I'm in love with a dancer. So it's like, maybe my boy is in love with a prostho.

Talk to me, Juju.

And then he like, "Damn, I ain't never had it like this. What you wanna eat for lunch, bruh? I'm finna pick— I'm going to Quiznos. Do you want anything?" She says yes. He's dropping off some Quiznos to her, and here go the damn fuzz.

I miss Quiznos. We don't have it down here anymore.

There is one.

Where?

On Byrd. Oh, that's a little far from here. It's adjacent to a storage facility.

He pleaded no contest to misdemeanor charges—

There's a prostitute right around the corner.

—of disorderly conduct and possessing criminal tools.

What are criminal tools? Exactly. What is a criminal tool?

Is that a dough? It's a butt plug.

Have you been to a WNBA game?

It's a dough. Don't get me started on the dough throwers in the WNBA. If you throw a dough in a WNBA game, you, sir, you, ma'am, you, they are lame as hell. Let's be honest with you.

Is it a they? Is it a she? No, it's a him.

Straight white man.

Straight white man.

Or straight white hill. I no longer find it funny. Wow. You claimed it. Did you say initially? I see Bill Doe on a playing surface. I'm like, that's funny. And I'm not going to treat the ladies any differently because when I see them throwing at Tom Brady's New England Patriots in Buffalo, I was like, that's funny.

If someone threw a doe during an NBA game, that'd be hilarious.

You know me, I'm big at equality. And so the first couple of times I'm like, all right, yeah, I can see how that's rude. And it's a different sport. There's more separation and they're wearing helmets in the NFL. So it's not exactly apples to apples. And plus, They're ladies, and I don't like the optics of that, no doubt. But I chuckled the first couple of times, and then it became a thing. And now I've emotionally evolved to the point that I don't think it's funny anymore. Kind of like a Borat impression— slays the first couple of times, not as funny now.

I think Tasha Cloud said it best: that's the gayest shit you can do. Grown-ass cis man go into a sex shop, buy a dildo, smuggle it into the game because you get checked and frisked and all the metal detection. Let's just say they're keistering. Exactly. Keister that guy just to throw it out, possibly injuring one of these players. Them things heavy as hell, as much as I can assume.

I have no idea how heavy they are. Exactly.

It all depends on the model.

They look heavy. I'll take your advice. But if they hit somebody, can you imagine that? You hit a woman in the face with a damn dough. It's under the jail.

The Bobo Doughs are light. The good stuff are heavy.

Because there's batteries in them. Nice. Yeah. But why would you get one with batteries just to throw on the court? It feels to me like it's, you know, hey, why did you buy a dildo? I see this on your credit card receipt and it's like, I mean, I was just throwing it out on the court. I don't even need it like that. I was going to a game.

I'm glad they locked his ass up, though. Arrested him. He had on a Luka Dončić jersey. My sister Angel Reese pointed his ass out. They get him.

My girl Joy Taylor said she was sitting right in front of him.

We sure it wasn't Joy? I don't know.

Pretty sure. I'm sure it was probably not.

He brought up Joy. That's crazy by Zazz. Scandal.

We have that video, uh, from Times Square. Oh, they're talking about the dough. Yeah, no, not the dough. All right, so here's a video from Times Square in which, uh, police are arresting some, uh, someone, and then boom, cop knocks a— wow, cop knocks somebody off of a, like, a moped. Why? Well, because he was just burning— like, they were closing traffic and this guy didn't think that the law applies to him. And so like, now look, the cops, they try to stop. Hey, you're not coming through here. Another motorbike tries to do the exact same thing. This motorbike dodges through traffic, gets away from the cops on foot, pulls away, gets away. He's like Batman.

That's a good Uber Eats driver right there.

5 stars on Uber Eats and Grand Theft Auto.

5 stars.

Can I tell you something about this Uber Eats? It is so expensive now. I got yesterday, I ordered yesterday. I don't usually do Uber Eats anymore because it's really gone downhill.

That's right. Famously, I think another sponsor is on our show, so let's just be careful.

Good. It's, well, it's gone downhill. So that's a good thing for me to say that, right? Yeah.

Well, because now Uber Eats will never, you could just say delivery service.

Scandal. I got a delivery service yesterday. All right. A delivery service that's gone downhill. And we got, we got, can I say the place I got from? Only if it's positive.

Wait, whisper it in my ear. Back channel. No, don't do that. Really? No, college football spends.

Aw, man. All right, so I got from a place, can I say what kind of food the place has? Christ, dude.

You can say chicken.

I got it, we got it from a fast food chicken place.

Oh, dude. Oh, wow. I know exactly what you mean.

What? We got it from a chicken place.

You had to say fast food.

Well, yeah, because that goes into the story. That's the whole point of the story.

It's fast food.

There's like 4 or 5 of them.

Yes, it's fast food. Okay, closed on Sundays. Got fast food for both my boys. All right, not even for me, for both my boys. Anyone want to guess how much it was? Regular fast food. I'm not talking about grown boys where they each got 3 hamburgers. No, a regular meal. Okay.

Look, I'm as progressive as they come, but you get me on one Saturday morning, I'd pay $300 for that. I'll play your game, Zazz.

$24, I think it was. $50. What? That's so much more than I guessed. $50.

$50.

See, you're doing it wrong. I don't even touch a restaurant establishment on those apps if I don't see that red long thing that says buy one, get one free.

Got to find the deals.

Juju's spot on with this. That's all. Maybe you're right.

Maybe that's what I gotta do now.

Happened to me yesterday. I didn't want pangkumpis, but guess who was having them?

My wife's like, why do we have two chicken bowls? Because they were BOGO.

Exactly. Enjoy your lunch. You're welcome.

Expensive nowadays. Rude lady, man. So Juju, I want you to explain this to me here. I saw this clip online, but I haven't watched it yet with Tracy McGrady, where Tracy McGrady is, uh, I guess posed a, a very important question from his cousin. Isn't that their podcast? Like the Cousins podcast, right? For sure. Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady. So what is this clip here that you're going to set up for me with Tracy McGrady?

Vince Carter asked my boy the golden question: which is more valuable, which holds more weight, a regular season league MVP or a championship in the NBA? And he had this to say. KD was on the Fred VanVleet podcast And he's talking about regular season MVP holds more weight than winning a championship.

What are your thoughts on that? Regular season MVP holds more weight than an NBA championship. And the reason I'm asking you that—

regular season MVP holds more weight, weight than winning a championship?

Hell yeah. Well, the first thing I would say is you're probably saying to yourself now, whoa, Fred VanVleet has a podcast? I didn't know that.

And of course he has a podcast.

Everybody has a because if you don't, you're a huge loser.

I just added it to Real or Fake, the Fred VanVleet podcast.

So here's my first question. Tracy McGrady's answering it like, man, that's a stupid question. Of course regular season MVP is more important than winning a championship. But are we talking about winning a championship and you're the sixth man, or you're the best player on the championship team? Because those are two very different things. Because if we're talking about, you know, being like the sixth man then yeah, what Tracy McGrady is saying makes sense. Kinda like how would you rather be in the Hall of Fame or win an NBA championship? Being in the Hall of Fame is, I think, much better. But if we're talking about regular season MVP or you were the best team, best player on a champion, like take Dwyane Wade for instance. Dwyane Wade never won a league MVP and he was the best player on the 2006 Miami Heat champion team. Dwyane Wade NBA champion is much bigger than never being regular season MVP.

Yeah, I also think it would— it sounded better coming from Kevin Durant, uh, NBA champion and MVP. When it comes from Tracy McGrady, you can poke holes in it saying, oh, you just want to do that or making excuses, even though he didn't win. Yeah, he didn't win that. Nah, but still, his value of it may be a bit skewed. I think that he has good points because Sometimes you win that championship and you're not an NBA 75 Greatest Player. But once you get that MVP, nobody in the league was better than me this year. This whole— LeBron was in the league. Everybody was out there. Grandbabies, gather around the fire and let me tell you about the year. I was better than Nikola Jokic.

Yeah, I get what he's saying, but there's some context there missing, I guess, as to what kind of player.

Unless you're Steve Nash, who actually wasn't better than Shaq and stole MVPs. He didn't steal those, he earned those.

Steve Nash is one of the greatest NBA players of all time.

That was a big deal down here when that happened. I know, that was the 2005 and then '06. Yeah, Dan wrote the big column for the Miami Herald that Steve Nash won it because he's white and a scandal.

Wait, Dan wrote that? Yeah, Dan, Dan did.

Salute to Dan. Wow. When Steve Nash became head coach of the Brooklyn Nets, I wrote something for Barstool about how he was taking opportunities from Black coaches who were standing in line. Yeah. When he had George Floyd as his avatar on Twitter, and that almost got me fired. Hmm. From Barstool. They said I sounded too much like Deadspin. What? Ally. Ally. They didn't love the allyship.

I don't even know what that means anymore. Was Deadspin considered progressive? Yeah, at that point.

At that point. At that point. Well, I mean, to them, forever.

Okay. Yeah, uh, when I hear Tracy McGrady, I think about a fight that was happening in the group chat last week where— now I have one group chat. You have a Harden group chat? No, I have like a just a catch-all where there's some NBA, but the, the difference in reaction was fascinating because I asked in the main chat, who's better, James Harden or Tracy McGrady?

McGrady.

Yeah, I felt so too, but Harden won on votes. And not— it wasn't close. And I asked a group chat that featured Sidano, Izzy, Zach Harper, and me, and I was like, who's the best from these two, Harden or T-Mac? And they all said T-Mac, and it wasn't even close. Yeah, McGrady. So the people that know ball were like T-Mac, and they're like, T-Mac was 6'10", and while he wasn't a great defender, compared to James Harden, he's Bruce Butler. So good. But I think most people, if you polled most people, which we probably should, they would say James Harden.

All right, Juju, put it on the poll. Who was a better player, Tracy McGrady or James Harden? I feel like whenever we do a James Harden or, Harden never wins. Has Harden ever won a James Harden who would you take, James Harden or?

Is he even a better Rocket? Probably a better rocket. He's probably a better rocket.

Yeah, usually people just say 9/11.

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