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You are listening to the Dan Levitan Show in partnership with the DraftKings Sports app, now live in all 50 states. Saints fans booed their team last night. They left early. The Atlanta-Saints rivalry is a nasty one, and Saints fans were embarrassed last night. You do have something funny. If there is, do you believe there's anybody in the world who has only seen the Falcons in primetime and has watched no other football. Because if that fan exists, if there is a fan that exists that hasn't seen the 2 games where the Falcons, uh, the Falcons scored a total of 16 points in the 2 games that weren't in primetime, but they're the first team ever to win consecutive primetime games by 20-plus points.
And I remember before the first one, we were like, woof, 3 weeks in a row. And look at them.
They looked the last 2 games as if they've got the best offense in the sport. I read the reports here that Tyreek Hill, who last we heard from him didn't have the kind of power in his legs— he said he had no strength in his legs— the Chiefs and Tyreek Hill are talking. Andrew Rosenhaus is saying that there are multiple teams interested in Tyreek Hill. The reason that Drew is saying that is because he's trying to get and establish a market, the smartest place in the world for Tyreek Hill to go is back to Kansas City. Like, that is an easy move to make. It's just that I would assume that he's going to want to get the most money wherever it is that he goes. Everything that you've read about his life off the field feels reckless. His earning power, the moment that he got hurt, was decimated. And Tyreek Hill, just given his general irresponsibility, I would assume that he might be thinking he could get more money elsewhere, but that's a perfect spot for him to try to rehabilitate himself.
This is likely someone who does not get endorsement deals and likely someone who is not going to get those type of deals after his career is over as well. So yeah, it makes sense that it'll be Kansas City. You go to a place where the coach knows you, the fan base knows you, the quarterback knows you. They could probably use you. They're awesome. but he's gonna go whoever offers him.
I would offer the Rams as the next spot. I don't know, I'm not talking about the money there. I don't think they could do the most money, but just like the McVay factor, like Odell did a few years ago. I feel like if they're— in terms of a place where you're like, okay, maybe this could work, I could see the Rams.
It's just so easy with the Chiefs. He doesn't have to actually learn a playbook. Like, I imagine everything the Rams are doing— they also demand a lot of blocking from their wide receivers.
Chiefs are first.
Well, Kansas City makes all the sense in the world, and partly because with Kenneth Walker III now, as their running back and he's really good, they don't— they're not as reliant on the passing game anymore. Just look at Mahomes' stats. But that was a devastating injury he had at age 32. There was already a belief that he had maybe lost a step because quickness has always been his forte. I hope he does make a comeback, but I have extreme doubts. I think Drew is playing up the multiple teams and trying to generate a market for him, but—
Yeah.
I really have my doubts that he's gonna come back in any meaningful way. I hope I'm wrong.
The perfect thing for him is the fact that they have an actual running game that is a legit threat because what they've been so successful at is the play-action pass, right? Like, that's a facet and a wrinkle to their offense that they haven't really had in the last couple years and the fact that Mahomes could take it, go play-action, and all Tyreek has to do is streak down the field like Tyquan Thornton does, it's the perfect place.
It's not a couple of years that they haven't had the play-action. The reason everything looks different in Kansas City offensively is because of what Patrick Mahomes is able to do out of play-action, the way that Daniel Jones started last season doing out-of-play-action with Jonathan Taylor. I'm going to say again, as I have a couple of times already this season, Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs have never had a 1,000-yard rusher. It's the longest streak in the NFL without a 1,000-yard rusher. 1,000 yards isn't even that much.
That's amazing.
You're just asking for 60 or 70 yards a game, and he's never had one. And so that's what's changed there in the I don't think of Thornton—
I— before these last couple of games, did you guys think of Thornton as this kind of deep-play threat? Like, he's broken his ankle, but I was not used to, the last couple of years, the Chiefs throwing anything downfield to receivers open deep down the field.
He's a speedster, and that's kind of why they brought him in, kind of the mold of MVS, Marquez Valdez-Scantling, where it's like, all right, you can run really fast, run a 9 route, and just go.
Another story from the NFL yesterday. You don't see this that often, and Trey McBride has to be one of the most pretty pleased with himself. He got that linesman, Jeff Seaman— just a really unfortunate name, he should change his name to Bill Seaman— He got him suspended for a couple of games by snitching on him, by pointing to a camera, by telling everybody that the referee was yelling at him and yelling F-you at him, and it is a great punishment to see the referee, the look-at-me referee, put in his place because they shouldn't be behaving that way.
In that moment when Trey McBride pointed to the camera and was smiling, the referee, like, it— like, does it wash over him? Does the referee realize in that moment, oh shit, the referee knows he's got a problem now, right? Like immediately?
Yeah. And nowadays, every, you know, everything is caught on camera. There's so many camera angles. Everybody reads lips. And a second referee got suspended from the Dolphins game when he was trucked by— accidentally, presumably—
trucked by a flag.
That guy's reaction was crazy!
He went crazy! And here's my theory on why 2 referees are being suspended on the same day in the NFL. It's because referees and umpires in baseball and all officials feel totally disrespected. They hate their jobs now because everything is being second-guessed. All of their calls are being second-guessed and overturned and reviews and red flags. I would hate to be an official now.
I feel the complete opposite. They have help now. Now if they screw up a game, it can get fixed for them.
That's a good point.
And they don't have to live with it. It's like, I couldn't agree with— disagree with you more.
I know, but they're now on national TV. It's like, oh, that guy got it wrong.
Yeah, and let's fix it.
Look at that guy got it wrong.
And then it's fixed.
I think you're right. It's better than, than the bad call lasts and it affects the game and then fans hate you.
I know, but the referee used to live with the delusion that, okay, I know I got the call wrong, but it was officially the right call because nobody was overturning it. And now that's not the case. You have to be perfect or else you're publicly humiliated. I would hate being a referee right now.
No, I do agree that it's probably a different mindset for them now where they're looking over their shoulder of like, holy shit, if I miss another call this game, I missed one last game where they're being graded now. So like from that aspect, I understand where it's more pressure for like their bosses, but I actually— from pressure from media, like they're— it's way easier now.
I think you're right. I think you could— you now have the security if you're an official to make a call. You think it might be quite— I think, I think I'm gonna make this. I think it's a good call. But you know in the back of your head, if it's a bad call, then we'll fix it.
Well, not on pass interference.
Right, right.
Not everything.
Or field goals.
Well, no, but pass interference can decide just about any game in the NFL. I don't know if you guys have noticed I don't know if you noticed this. This is from, uh, ESPN Insights. The NFL has seen the most accepted penalties through Week 4 since play-by-play data became available in 1978. Week 4 alone had 271 accepted penalties, the second most in any week over that span.
I saw a stat as well to that. In Week 4, there were 17 touchdowns called back because of penalty. That's an outrageous number.
And Zazz, I think I saw that same stat. I think it was Warren Sharpe that put it out. Last year there was 4. So now we're talking about— yeah, it's an insane number that were called back.
The game seems like it would be pretty hard to officiate. It seems like a pretty thankless job. We're still doing this, right? In the most lucrative sports league that has ever existed on Earth. All of these referees have second jobs, correct? These are— these continue to be part-time jobs.
I think they're very lucrative paying part-time jobs that people that have the ability to not work half the year do.
Right, like you don't— they're not getting paid scraps. You don't have to have a second job.
No, but they are— they have a union, and I do believe that many referees have second jobs. And it seems to me— just let's consider this for a second, because complaining about the officiating is as old as sports. Do you guys think that any of the people Criticizing the officiating, think that it's an easy job that we could or anybody could do well?
No, no, no.
It just—
it seems like if you've got those kinds of athletes at that rate of speed trying to get away with everything, trying to hide at every turn all of the places they're cheating, I feel like I could call pass interference just about all the time based on the amount of hand fighting there is jersey grabbing, there is—
I don't know how you play defensive back in that league, even when it's just the precision of Baker Mayfield throwing to Cade Otton. I'm not even talking about like 17 throws to CeeDee Lamb and how are you supposed to stop any of that if you've got Brock Purdy saying—
A high percentage of the time I'm dropping back to pass and I don't see who it is I'm throwing to. I'm just based on the defense and the read, I'm throwing it to the spot that I've practiced 10,000 times. throwing it to, and I'm just expecting my guy to be there. You guys have seen the number of times a defensive back is grabbing at the jersey, at the shoulder pad, because it's basically if the receiver gets his body in front of you, you can't do anything about it.
If he simply— It's not just all of the shallow crosses and all of the interference that's made to create some separation between you and colliding into another person. It seems to me that the most difficult job in sports outside of hitting a baseball and being a quarterback would be being a cornerback in that league.
I don't know that I can give you a more difficult job than successfully covering CeeDee Lamb when he knows where he's going, Dak Prescott knows where he's going, and he's also bigger and more athletic than the defensive back who is trying to guard him.
I don't know what you're supposed to do. You just saw a Texans game. where they have 3 Pro Bowlers in the secondary and that pass rush and couldn't do anything against CeeDee Lamb. Where— how often do you see 17 catches in a game without an adjustment?
Maybe they did make an adjustment. He would have had 30 if they didn't. I don't know.
Dan Le Batard. I want to address Tony and all men who would wear that shirt in public.
Greg Cody.
Don't do it.
This is the Dan Le Batard Show.
What was the adjustment?
I mean, there was just no way There's no way to cover him. If he runs in front of your defensive back, your defensive back cannot get to the football without having to go through his body to get to it. So what are you supposed to do? They said the stat was— the stat on CeeDee Lamb was this is the best game we've seen since Jason Witten. Jason Witten right now in a suit could go out there, do a 5-yard button hook, and just put his ass in your chest, and you're not going to be able to do anything because he's just turning around and you've got to go through his body to get to the ball, and you cannot do it without interfering with him.
It's like going around a fridge. How do I—
does he have padding under the suit? He would need a really big suit, you know, with all that. But to your point, actually, I don't know if you made this point or not.
You just wanted to get your padding joke out there.
He is right. Do you put it on top of the pads?
In the shoulders.
I put it in the shoulders.
I put Jason Witten, you know, his suit needed a little bit of padding in the shoulders.
But it's underneath the suit though, the pads.
Yes, for sure. That's why you need an extra large suit. Triple XL.
You were saying?
At least.
It's an— the only thing I don't like about the NFL— I can live with the violence. The only thing I don't like about the NFL is the penalties. It seems like an epidemic because I'm not the one getting concussed. Okay, I can live with the violence. You players know what you're getting into.
The players die early with the violence, but you can live with it.
I can live with it because they know what they're getting into. It's a voluntary sport. You don't have to play pro football. Okay, anyway, penalties are an epidemic. It seems like there's more than ever— I was saying to my wife watching the game last night, it seems like every 3rd play there's a flag.
Greg, it's not seems like. I just gave you the numbers.
Okay.
It is, and Tony just gave you the numbers. 17 called— touchdowns called back is ludicrous.
Right, and, and, and the problem is, for every play that there's a penalty, there were probably 3 or 4 other infractions that weren't called. If you slow-mo'd and put a replay on every position on the field, On any one play, there would be half a dozen penalties happening, but the refs only— you can only see one, you can only call one. It's the only thing I hate about the NFL.
I think that one of the things that is happening here, though, that does make this really hard, okay, I know we enjoy our weekends, and you've heard the famous Ray Lewis quote of, you pay me for Monday through Saturday, Sundays you get for free. What these people are doing over the entire offseason, the entire season, the entire week before a game is practicing a precision that is truly extraordinary in terms of, when I drop back, you're going to be 7 yards down the field and you're going to be in that spot. And I know you're going to be in that spot so much that Brock Purdy tells you that almost half the time he's not seeing where he's throwing the ball. He's just throwing the ball to a location where he knows the receiver receiver is. If it's gotten to that level of precision, in some instances the only way to stop it, says, is to cheat, is to, is to create the infraction that gets penalized at a record rate.
I'm going to read the numbers again so that you all absorb it.
Your eyes aren't lying to you. The Jacksonville Jags, in the first half of a game they won, had 10 penalties for 100 yards in the first half against the Bengals. The NFL has seen the most accepted penalties The theories for that— do you guys have a better one than the one I'm offering you, which is that offenses have gotten so precise and defenders have gotten so athletic along the defensive line that the only way to keep them out of your backfield is to cheat?
Because you can't keep up with them. They're too strong physically. They're going to either knock you over or go around you because they know they can. That Texans pass rush is crazy. But, but Dallas is playing so fast, Zazz. They're all taking up the strategy of Tom Brady, get rid of the ball in 2.5 seconds. Jadeveon Clowney can't get back there that fast. Not even he is athletic enough to get back there faster than 2 seconds.
I don't think I agree because the athleticism isn't anything new. You know, there's this— it hasn't been and it hasn't been a gradual increase. We're seeing a massive increase this year. I don't understand the gap between this number and the number being so inflated this year. I don't like what has caused that. It's not gradual. The players aren't all of a sudden these incredible athletes. This has been—
Well, this, this is the part I disagree with, though. Okay. This is where I disagree with you. J.J. Watt, once upon a time, was an elite pass rusher. Now he's not even the best pass rusher in his own family. I'm sitting there watching the Vikings and I'm like, there ain't anybody in this league who can block Dallas Turner.
There's not a person in the—
He's great.
There's not a person in this league who could block what that person is doing, and he's not the best at this. Like, he— Myles Garrett is the best at this. What you just saw of the Philadelphia offense be more inept than it has been at any point in this century, that was against a Rams defense that didn't even have Myles Garrett and Aaron Donald on it. Like, these are players— you're, you're saying it's not different, and I'm saying, nah, man, when I look at Myles Garrett, I see Lawrence Taylor. Like, I see the best I've ever seen at that. Consensus Defensive Player of the Year without an argument from just about anybody. But you can't block Micah Parsons either.
Right, but it's not all of a sudden. Like, Myles Garrett has been this guy for years now. Micah Parsons for years now.
But the last 10 years, I would say that the athleticism that you're getting along the defensive line makes it so that not even Jadeveon Clowney, someone who looks like the Predator, just looks like something that you can't block.
There are 4 guys on his defense who are better pass rushers than him.
Right. That's not new, so I don't understand why we're having such a huge jump from last year to this year in penalties.
I think the biggest mismatch on a football field is the superb edge rusher versus the tackle or guard who is just overwhelmed. That's why I think you get more holding penalties than you do other penalties, and the consequence of that mismatch is that the most valuable player on your team is much more likely to be injured.
I will tell you from an aesthetic viewpoint, just from an aesthetic viewpoint, I'm really tired of a defense successfully stopping another team on 3rd down and then seeing a flag thrown out there for defensive holding because somebody grabbed a jersey and all of a sudden you've made the stop that you've needed. There were so many plays at the goal line this weekend where it looked like somebody was going to have to settle for a field goal and you have a situation where you get a penalty that nullifies the stop. I will say one thing that has changed more, Zazz, from even one year to the next is the amount that offenses are going for 4 downs to get the 10 yards.
Yep.
And so if I give a team 4 downs to get the 10 yards instead of 3 and you get in the first quarter last week, you get 9 of 10 4th-down conversions. It's gonna be harder to stop a team if it has 4 downs to get 10 yards than if it has 3.
Last night, I think it was maybe the first drive of the game for Atlanta, second drive of the game, they went for 4th and 7 like it was nothing.
Well, no, but they got, they got a delay of game, or they got a procedure penalty that made them punt. Like, they were gonna go for it and then decided not to. And then later on, they also went for it on 4th and 4 because nobody cares about field goals anymore.
It's just funny.
And it's, it's not a shock. Like, Aikman is saying, oh, they're gonna go for 4th and 7, they're in no man's zone right now, and everyone's like, Yeah, that's what you do. It wasn't that long ago, you come up short on 3rd down, it's gonna be 3rd and 1, 3rd and 1, you come up short, it's now 4th and 1, and you're like, you're yelling at the coach, go, go for it, go for it! Like, you're all hoping that the coach is gonna decide to go for it, and then the offense stays on the field and the crowd goes crazy.
Everybody's playing Madden now, right? The coaches are just playing Madden where they'll go for it on 4th down instead of punting because nobody likes to punt.
I don't like this move though when it's 4th and short around like the 45-yard line and everyone knows Not even 4th and short, 4th and 3, 4th and 4. Everyone knows they're not going for it. Let's just— hey, we're gonna trick them here.
Hut, hut, hut, hut!
Then a lot of motion. Yeah, then I'm gonna go from under center to shotgun.
I'm gonna keep moving around.
I got something for your back pocket here though.
Kill, kill, kill!
Somebody is gonna do that play and fake it and run like a deep pass.
No, they've been doing some of that. They've been doing—
The Ravens did it at like the 4-yard line where they had—
All right, so take it out of your back pocket because it's happened already.
Oh, wow.
This is something that should work every time. You go up there and you're doing the fake hard count thing as if you're going to just let the clock tick down. I think the Chiefs did this the other day. And then on 1 second, you do end up snapping it when everyone was just fearing offsides. And then the offensive line tramples you because they knew they were going on 1 second.
So not in the back pocket.
I've got some news breaking here that supports a position that Tony has had here for a while.
Uh, Spurs.
I mean, Ricky Davis. I thought I kicked you.
He's a good scorer.
Max Strus.
Okay, you got me. He's loose.
Spurs reporter Michael Wright said on the Hoop Collective podcast that Victor Wembanyama reportedly doesn't want to talk about the Finals loss and will not speak to any American media outlets except 60 Minutes.
60 Minutes.
Okay, buddy. I love him.
That, uh, that was the response of, uh, Tim McMahon. He said, oh, give me a break.
Please, please, people, come to my side. Can we not see what's happening here? I don't want to talk to anybody except— what's been in the news recently? 60 Minutes. They'll be on my side.
Oh, please.
God, he sucks.
Please back me up here.
Can I get you guys to stop saying that people suck who don't suck?
Like, I'm fine with—
I'm fine with—
He's a great basketball player.
What about my POS earlier? That one?
I'd just like you guys—
Well, that guy actually is a POS.
To stop with the analysis of somebody just sucks. I think we could do better in terms of language and criticism.
You're absolutely right, Dan. He is the leader of the galactic fascist organization, and we need to put a stop to him. How about that?
Is that better?
Better.
You're making a lot of rules today. You can't say suck, you can't say bad optics. You know, you're full of rules over here.
I didn't say you cannot say those things. I said that we can do better than those things. I'm not forbidding that.
The forbitter.
It is—
The arbiter of all.
It is weird that Victor Wembanyama says no American outlets except 60 Minutes. It must mean that he's got a future feature coming out on 60 Minutes.
Oh, you don't say. Again, I question why we have these issues with 60 Minutes.
Yes.
So that's the only American outlet he's going to talk to about the Finals, not the only American outlet he's going to talk to.
No, the way the report goes from Michael Wright, Spurs reporter, on Wind Horse Hoop Collective podcast is he reportedly doesn't want to talk about the Finals loss and will not speak to any American media outlets except for 60 Minutes.
No way. There's no way the Spurs PR department would allow that to be the case.
Well, what's going to— what you're going to see is 60 Minutes now has to assign an NBA reporter to cover the Spurs. You're going to see the ghost of Mike— the ghost of Mike Wallace is going to be in the postgame interview with a hologram asking Wembanyama a question. That's what you're going to see. I predict that.
Tony, you'll work for 60 Minutes if they offer, right?
Yeah, but I'd grill him, be like, so let's balance you guys. I'd start the really good question. I'd start the interview there.
So, and then you just cross your arms, grab your chin.
Exactly right. Then they break to the next story. They're like, we got Tony with Victor Wembanyama. So let's start here.
Boom.
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Greg Cody.
Take the rest of the day off.
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Do you guys realize that Chris Cody and Tony Still, when I walked in here today, everybody was still fighting about that Virginia Tech game?
So mad at him.
Clearly in.
He's trolling.
He's clearly over the—
He keeps pausing it when it's clearly out!
Chris, dude, you have me pause it 15 yards after it's gone through the goalpost. 15 yards.
Plum dumb on this one, man.
Plum dumb.
Plum dumb.
This guy.
I know that years ago Adam Carolla made the same—
Is that a saying he's trying to get off the ground there, Dan? What is that?
I like it. Plum dumb.
Is that yours, Greg?
It isn't.
Uncle Dick's?
You know, I'm gonna put it on my next—
Aunt Bonnie's?
No, I've never heard plum— I've never heard plum dumb before.
I love it.
I love it. Digging it. Well done, son.
Do you know the controversy that I'm talking about here? Do you know the Virginia Tech-Pittsburgh game that I'm talking about?
No, I do not.
So there was a field goal at the end of the game. It was 36 yards, and the Virginia Tech kicker thought he had made the kick. And in a bit of an optical illusion, it can be confusing as to whether or not the kick was made. And Zazz, Tony, and Chris have been arguing since last Friday about whether the kick was made or not. I will say again that the Virginia Virginia Tech kicker thought that the kick was made. So let's go ahead and have Tony with the telestrator—
Who, Judge Gregg?
Uh, help, uh, Judge Gregg tell us once and for all, uh, what is right and what is not right here, because they've been arguing about this for 3 days. But before you do that, before they put it up, I just want to finish my point on Adam Carolla. Adam Carolla said years ago said years ago, just go to Home Depot, buy some more fiberglass, and make the goalposts higher so that we don't have these problems anymore. Let's see if Greg—
We got 2 angles for Greg. We got the front angle and then we've got the back angle from the fan's perspective. So this is the front angle that we're going to play.
Let's roll this. All right, Greg, I want you to be the field goal judge here.
Give us the—
and The kick. It's tough to see on this angle.
Let's pause it right there. Let's pause right there. Right, right there.
How about a close-up?
How's this going?
Okay, so let's take a look here.
Just a bad idea poorly executed.
Let's take a look right here.
The ball, the ball is going in this direction right here, right? And if we were to do this, if we were to extend the goalpost this way—
That's what they have to do. It's just so simple.
But then how high do we do it?
The sky.
Just that high?
Guys, you either extend the post or you put a camera On the ref's hat that's looking up. No, because the ref is off-center.
Chris, the ref is off-center.
I still want to see what this looks like.
But then the optical illusion remains because he's off-center. He can't stand directly underneath the goalpost.
Where are they standing? That's exactly where they're standing. Look at where they're standing. They're right at the goalpost.
Yeah, but for the angle, he can't see it. That's my whole point.
He has the best view.
Let's get the— let's get the behind-the-back view here from, from behind.
Hopefully this works out better.
Here we go.
All right, better.
Let's— we're gonna need to play with this. Here we go, kick it. All right, here we go. Here we go. Let's get it. All right, they're about to kick. Oh, we're going slow-mo. Perfect.
Okay, there's the ball. Okay, pause it right there.
Right there.
It's not to the goalpost yet.
It's clearly—
look at that, Dan.
Talk to me how dummy it is. Clearly plumb dumb.
It's 20 feet before the post.
20 feet.
I can see it from here.
You're crazy.
What are you talking about? Keep rolling.
Keep going.
And no, keep going. Keep going.
Keep going, we're already past the field goal post.
No, we're not! Does anyone think we are past the field goal post at this point?
Tony's plum dumb.
Totally wide.
This is also a bad angle.
We need the angle— This couldn't be a clearer view. See, this is what Tony does. He pauses it here and he thinks he's right!
This is— this has already gone through the goal post.
This is literally—
This guy's already celebrating right here.
That's no good.
Look at all the people over on this side that can't see this whatsoever.
Not even close.
She's in a castle! Please back me up here.
It's no good. It's obviously wide.
It's not even close is what Greg told us.
No, it's wide left. Not even close.
To me, it is clearly out.
The footballs used for field goal attempts should be fluorescent orange.
Don't hate that.
Take a lesson from golf, which went from a white ball to a fluorescent orange ball, and the whole, the whole sport exploded. But that, that kick—
That's not something that happened.
Talk to me, Dad.
That kick was clearly wide left.
Clearly not wide left because the kick came in and you thought he made it. It is so obvious that it's not to the goalpost there.
Let's run it one more time. Here we go. In fast motion. You need, you need the light from the Seminole Hotel to just go straight into the sky.
Also a good idea. Just up into the sky where it makes it look like the Avengers are about to come down.
Go look up for me, please, what the Luxor used to spend in its prime to produce a light from that pyramid that could be seen from space. And I do believe that football has the money to do this. And I do believe the goalposts should go infinity into the sky the same way that the goal line extends around the Earth.
I think, I think, or just buy some fiberglass, as Adam Carolla said, just go to Home Depot and just buy, just buy a couple of pipes In fact, the rest of it doesn't need to be like the other parts of the goalpost.
PVC, like white PVC pipe?
Yeah, just get 40 more yards of PVC pipe, and then if you have a problem after that, you blame the kicker for kicking the ball too high. Greg, so you're making the ruling not even close.
The kick was clearly missed, even though Virginia Tech's kicker thought he had made the kick.
Oh, imagine that, a kicker who thinks it was good. By the way, the kicker's the last guy you want to ask.
By the way, what you just did, not the signal for a bad field goal.
It should be like this.
That is not the signal.
Yeah, you're doing wide.
You're doing a Carlton Fisk kind of thing.
Wide right, wide left. You're basically open a sliding glass door.
You're not—
Carlton Fisk was a good shout.
It doesn't do anybody any good for the ref to go like this.
What do you—
Because everybody wants to know, this is the way it missed.
No, everyone's fine.
They know which side it missed.
It would be the only side that it could miss from that referee's vantage point.
Maybe they don't. What do you think about my fluorescent orange ball though? You're gonna negate that?
You said golf exploded after that and there's no proof of that.
There is proof.
They also don't use it on the tour.
Well, they should though.
Nobody uses— if you're using a ball that's not white, it's mini golf.
If I have a ball in the rough, uh, I can find it easier if it's orange, you know? And that's a fact, Jack.
12 years ago, the NFL extended the goalposts by 5 feet, so apparently they have to do it again.
Insufficient.
No, I— this cannot not happen. I don't care, college or not.
I'm saying, did college extend? Because if the NFL did, the college didn't, all of a sudden it's like, oh, wait a second, we need to extend them.
You can put laser beams on their heads.
I like that one better. Because tennis has it, and you could see in tennis.
Actually, now finally someone's made a good point. If we can have that technology in tennis, there's not a reason that we can't have that technology in the NFL where if you don't do it with, with pipe, you can just do it with technology and, and know whether it is with motion detectors or however it is that you do this stuff.
It seems like if this industry is spending this much money on everything and these kicks are worth so much that you have one-score games being decided, you have to be 100% on this. You can't be 99% right on this. You can't. There's no reason for this controversy. We have the technology to eliminate this controversy.
Like in baseball where they have pitch thing, right? Where it's like, all right, I challenge that pitch, but the question becomes—
How accurate is—
Not only how accurate is it, is it— all right, the ball was on the line, is that good or is that bad?
That's right. Would it have bounced in?
Exactly.
Or would it have bounced out?
Clearly this one would have bounced out.
You could make an argument that a ball that hits the upright should be called good.
I can make the argument that a ball that hits the upright should be worth more.
Right, that's true.
That kickers should be trying to hit the upright, that we could create that— look.
Because in order to go for the more points, you're Risking getting none.
I am, I am at this point— you guys realize that when yesterday, if you're watching Falcons-Saints and a kicker comes out in a dome and misses a 46-yard kick, I'm stunned by it. I at this point am stunned when Mevis comes out and misses a 40-yarder.
When anybody misses a 40-yarder— not in the college game, I don't trust those college kickers. But in, in the, in the professional, in the NFL ranks, if—
I got to stop doing that with professional and college. College is also professional. In the NFL ranks though, I'm at the point where if somebody misses a 49-yarder, I'm stunned.
Yeah, it's weird, right?
I feel that way about a 54-yarder. I expect them to make that.
Oh, let's keep going. Zaz, where do you feel it about—
If they're kicking from 62, I'm like, this is a chip shot.
Not a chip shot, but make one.
62 is where you are on this?
You got to make It is wild, though, that you're like 58. All right, that's good.
The whole thing's changed.
It's 10 yards further than it was once upon a time. It used to be that I wasn't settling to get into position for a 48-yard field goal. But now Jacksonville's kicker and Dallas's kicker, both of them don't even have to get to the 50-yard line before they're trotting out there and trying a game-winning kick. It's asinine.
Field goal kicking has gotten so much more accurate. When you look at some of the old field goal kickers, Just to use a name, Garo Yepremian from the Miami Dolphins.
He would have—
here we go again.
He would have been like, in a season, he would have been like 18 for 29 or something.
Sports Illustrated did an article 10 years ago about the fact that nothing in sports had improved more than the accuracy of field goal kickers in terms of what it used to be versus what it is. And since then, it's gotten a good deal better.
That's right. Verifying what I just said. Thank you, SI.
We were just talking about refereeing being a bad job. Kicker's a pretty great job. I'd feel bad if I missed the kick at the end of the game, but these guys have gotten so good that playing a sport where you're just wandering around and you never get hit, no one ever bothers you, you get to make a ton of money— like, it's a great job.
If I had a son, kicker.
Kicker camp.
There's a lot of, uh, pressure on kickers though, because there was a kick— I forget the game— there was a kicker who missed 2 extra points in one game. I think it might have been Detroit's kicker.
That was Fitzgerald.
You can't miss anymore if you're a— because that position is considered interchangeable. If you miss 2 extra points in a game, I'm like, give me another kicker.
Well, the thing, the thing to me that's weird when we talk about the precision in general of that sport and the places where people improve and the things that you are stunned by— go ahead and put that photo of Gary Youpremian up because we can never do that enough.
That's right out of college.
That's right. He was—
That guy's 65 years old.
That's your man? He was 19 years old.
Looks like Uncle Dick a little bit.
That is a rookie Garo Upamea. This is one of the things that I find wildly unusual about the fact that that sport can be so precise. Go ahead and give me all of the times recently at any level where you have seen either a bad field goal or extra point snap Or a bad hold. You never see it. How is it possible that you never see it? That you're sitting here watching game after game after game and no one screws up that snap?
You're always watching a shotgun center go ahead and just dribble the ball right under, you know, right to the quarterback on the ground. You often see a snap on a punt go over the punter's head. You never see a field goal snap or a bad field goal hold anymore. It's super weird.
You think of Romo.
It's weird, right?
And even that Romo one was a decent snap, right? He just dropped it.
Yeah, he just dropped it. He just— that's what, that's what Romo is remembered for in the playoffs, is that he lost a playoff game. I know that was like a 28-yard field goal.
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