Transcript of Jonathan Zaslow's New Red Shirt | Local Hour New

You are listening to the Dan Levitan Show in partnership with the DraftKings Sports App, now live in all 50 states. Yo, I'm not gonna lie, I look good in red.

Alright, so we've been talking about here, is that just a straight red shirt?

Yeah.

Just plain red Fruit of the Loom shirt.

No, not Fruit of the Loom.

Hey, Greg. Yeah, no, not Fruit of the Loom.

What type of shirt is that?

I went to the store.

Oh, you—

Which store?

I'm not going to say which store.

No, I can guess.

I got to guess.

Yeah.

Did it have a mart in it?

No, I did not even—

No.

No?

No. Target?

No.

7-Eleven? No.

Maybe—

What'd you say?

Maybe at the end?

Eh, maybe.

Oh!

Yeah, just a plain red shirt. Not box cut tee, nothing. Just— Your standard gray.

I look good, right?

Yeah, a little showy.

I like just plain colored shirts.

I do.

Yeah, I mean, it's very like welcome to college brochure.

Okay, whatever, man.

Because you can't get the rights to put any brands on it.

So last week, Greg, before I went on my cruise, I decided to update the catalog a little bit, all right? I needed some cruise wear, Kenny, right?

You mean the wardrobe?

So this is new.

Yeah, this is a new shirt.

This is a new shirt.

Yeah, it's my first time wearing it.

This is the new Jonathan Zaslow.

Yeah, yeah, reborn. So I went to the clothes store before, like the day before the cruise, and well, actually it was a couple days because I went to Minneapolis first. So before I went to the cruise, I went to the clothes store and I came out with like a, I bought a lot of clothes.

Yeah, I don't think you're joking. I think the place that you went to was actually called the clothes store because that is absolutely a shirt that you would pull from the clothes store.

Yeah, I got a lot of new stuff and And Greg, what a good feeling this is when you come home— alright, because I went by myself, which can be risky.

Can be dangerous.

Yeah, I went by myself, and when I got home, you know, my wife eventually went through the clothes that I got, and she said to me, "You did well." Oh, wow. That's a good compliment!

Yeah.

When you go out and you get the clothes on your own and your wife says you did well?

Why? Because it doesn't say "Powers of Pain" on it?

She likes that red, does she?

Red t-shirt? Just all the clothes I got. She didn't just hold up the red shirt. And again, I look good in red.

You look like— when you played Mortal Kombat 3 and Stryker had to fight himself. You look like the second Stryker.

Seth, you know what an NPC is?

Yeah, non-playable character, right? Yeah, that's what they wear.

When I walked up to you this morning, I almost pressed the square button.

You thought I was an NPC?

Yeah, NPC-ass shirt.

I don't care, whatever. I look good.

I thought it was weird that you just started walking in a fluid motion against the wall.

I look good in red. I don't care.

I'm happy with this wall. Let me tell you something, t-shirt colors are like cars. if you wouldn't, would you drive a red car, or would you consider that to be a little bit—

No, that's a good question. I would not drive a red car.

And yet you'd wear a red shirt.

Well, and what I've also been told, I don't know if this is true, police are more apt to pull over the red car. It stands out more, right? It's true, that is true.

Yeah, I've had a couple of cops as friends, and they do say that.

Yeah.

They also say that they will be more suspicious of someone driving really extra slow than someone going a little too fast.

Ah, okay. Good to know. Good to know.

Thank you.

Yeah, no, but I, I, I just—

I think you look great.

Thank you. See?

Great shade of red. I know!

I look good. Whatever.

Anyway. You watch the Patriot Games? You covering that, right?

I don't know what you're talking about.

100-meter, look great. Girls running 16-second 100 meters. But they're girls. I know that for a fact.

Jeremy's here today! Jeremy was not here yesterday. You got any critiques about the show yesterday?

I had some observations. I really liked it because in the local hour you started the sentence that said, I don't want to sound insensitive, but—

Yeah.

And then got cut off only to later say, I don't want to make jokes about Steve Belichick.

Right.

And that's where people jumped on.

Well, he's got a mullet, you know.

It's the mullet.

I mean, he just—

he's got a really off-color Steve Belichick joke somewhere.

Yeah, it's sitting there. He's just very clear, waiting to air it out. And he's just waiting to find out what the medical is.

Greg, I didn't want to make— like, it's easy to pile on and make jokes about Belichick.

Sure it is.

Everything that's going on at UNC.

Yeah.

But I didn't want to make a joke about Steve Belichick necessarily because he's on medical leave right now. And who knows, we find out it is, you know? I don't want to crack a joke, we find out the dude's dying. That would not be nice.

No, that wouldn't be nice. Bill, his daddy, was the subject of a joke at the Hall of Fame thing.

What did you make of that? I thought it was weird that Adam Vinatieri thought he was at a roast. Yeah.

I thought it was too.

It was weird.

It was funny though.

I know it's funny, but it's just— I never heard the Hall of Fame speech being treated like a roast.

I know.

You're thanking everybody in attendance and you're cracking a joke at them.

I think that's indicative of where Bill Belichick's career has sunk to. I really do. I mean, everything has become such a catastrophe. This all-time Super Bowl winner is now in a dumpster fire at North Carolina, and I think he's fair game now. It's like, poor Bill. You know, so Adam Venitieri says he couldn't be here, he's at his girlfriend's cheerleading practice. I think that's okay, that doesn't bother me.

So on top of that, you guys had a lot to say about Uber drivers and tipping and things like that. So like normally when there's the driver detour, they're pulling things together because they don't get paid well enough. My bigger question is, are you going back to add a greater tip? Because the complaint yesterday was, I give a tip then it takes too long. I can't take it away.

I want to take back some of my tip.

But if so, if you were to, to be at 20%, let's say, from the jump, would you be someone— because like, I, I add the tip that I want to give, and if it doesn't happen, okay, it is what it is. But if you're saying, let me start at 10% so that that way if all goes according to plan, I'll go back into the app and give more— is that something people like to do?

I don't go by percentages with with delivery.

Okay, so I think you had a certain amount of cash. That's fine. So say you had a certain amount of money that you were willing to give.

I mean, if I were to go and add more money to the tip, like, something would have had to have happened to make me feel like something extraordinary to make me feel like—

because I don't think that's why they don't let you go back and get rid of it here.

They do actually let you edit tips. I'm pretty sure.

Not, not, not take back. No, no, believe it's called editing. Believe me, I tried last week after my experience. You can add to the tip, but I do want to add a couple things.

You look like a ticket scalper.

I do want to add a couple things. Number one, people were saying that you— that the driver can see the tip, all right? That's why you should give a good tip, and that's why you give the tip up front, because the driver sees it, and that's why he takes your order. But you guys here were telling me that the driver cannot see the tip until after the delivery has been made. So which one is it? Because those are two very different things, and that's an important factor.

You're asking a lot of questions. You're an undercover cop. You look like you're trying to solicit drugs.

You can continue, Jeremy.

On top of that, also, the reason that we don't tip in Europe is because they actually get paid livable wages. Um, sss— I had Ameen really, really specifically mention that he believes something is changing in Las Vegas as regard to the Raiders. I want to make sure we all have that out there and have that marked down, as well as he will be joining Mike at the Bills game in Buffalo on September 18th. So we need to make sure that there are follow-ups to both of those things throughout the year. We're keeping up with the Raiders and we're making sure that he's attending that game.

Greg, do you think it's weird that Mike— if I just told you Mike Ryan is going to see the Lions at the Bills, does that strike you as an odd thing for him to do?

Yeah, I don't— my big question would be why, right?

Seems like a fun game, the start of a new era at Highmark Stadium.

But I'll say it again, there are fun games every week, right?

Yeah, I like it.

Are you from Buffalo?

No, I'm not.

Okay.

I'm going up to Buffalo.

I'll defend Mike here. It's historically like, if you're— I'm gonna go to an NFL game to tailgate and have a good time, like Buffalo would be in the top 2 or 3 of—

It would, yeah.

That seems like a fun—

I'll live the rest of my life trying to avoid Buffalo.

I went to our Dolphins playoff game a couple years ago in Buffalo where we almost won.

You have a reason! The Dolphins are in a playoff game!

But I'm just saying though, like this is the first game at Highmark Stadium and just in general that tailgating, the wings before, like it's a cool town to be in surrounding.

Yeah, I did it once before for a Sunday night game between Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers and I had a blast and that was at the old stadium. So I want to check out the new stadium and be around that energy. It's a Thursday standalone game. It's a good game.

Yeah.

If I was tailgating at a Dolphins game. All right, Dolphins-Jets. I'm tailgating at a Dolphins game and someone comes up and just says hello, like, yeah, you know, it's my first time here. Like, oh, cool. Nice to meet you. 'You must be a Jets fan.' They're like, 'No, you know, just came to have a good time today. I'm from wherever the hell.' Yeah. I would look at that guy, 'You're weird, man.

What are you here for?' I meet those people at MLB ballparks and NHL arenas all the time.

I think MLB's—

People who just love the sport and want to experience a new— See, Greg, I think MLB's a little bit different. That feels like a thing where you got— I don't know why it is for MLB, but it seems like a thing. It's like, 'I want to go to all MLB parks,' right?

That's true. And it's another thing, like, We were in New York recently. We went to a Yankee game because we're in New York.

I'm a Yankee fan.

Yeah, well, you're a fake fan and you know it. But, but that's different. If you're in a town on vacation and you go to that game, that's different. But if, if all you're doing is spending a lot of money to travel to that game and you have nothing to do with—

lean back.

There you go. It's odd. I'm not saying it's— I'm not knocking it. And you—

it's odd. I love those.

I love the sport. I want to take in all the cathedral of sport. And I really like when this game— I'm not a huge golf guy, but I like like since I'm not bound to an NFL team and two really good quarterbacks are playing, I want to see that matchup. I want to say I saw Josh Allen against Aaron Rodgers. I went to Patrick Mahomes versus Tom Brady. Brady won that game easily, but Patrick Mahomes had an all-time highlight, uh, that spinning, uh, attempt that he had near the, the goal line.

I'd rather watch Red Zone.

Zazzle, if I picked—

if I said, oh, but I only go to standalone games because I also would rather watch Red Zone.

If I said to you, pick two NFL teams that you'd hypothetically want to watch play this season, Bills and Lions would be up there for you. Like, this is a I don't know. I don't know what we're doing. On the surface, like, subjectively a good game.

Bills-Lions, Thursday Night Football, first regular season game at Highmark Stadium. If I can make that happen, if I can swing that, I'd like to do it. It's not like I'm a Dolphin fan that I feel some type of way about the Bills.

I hope you get one of the obstructed view seats.

After the whole Pickett-Paul debacle yesterday, Chris, I just can't wait to watch you be great today.

Yeah, that was—

that was tough.

That one sat with me.

That was really tough. It was tough to listen to. It was tough to watch.

It was so obvious. So grateful to hear the first name.

I just couldn't have been happier that Dan wasn't here for that one. And then you guys were talking about cultural cachet. And then Amin under his breath said tache. And I just wanted to give you a few things that would give you cultural tache. I don't remember that at all because being a triple threat, acting, dancing, and singing, if you have some style that maybe breaks gender norms, if you are Bruce Springsteen, you like baseball, or if you're a man who likes female pop music.

All right, very good, Jeremy. Jeremy's back, everybody. Give it up for Jeremy.

Triple threat, says?

Not me. Just if you have that. If you are a triple threat. Acting, dancing, singing. Just some cultural taché.

Down Levitar! Can't trade Marino! Nice hat! Nice hat, Zeb! It's what he's most known for! It's not like I'm holding on to it! Greg Cody! Hey, we're 9-2! But it's Marino! And then the next time we saw Marino after Greg Cody traded him, He threw for 5 touchdowns and he was being the man on the COVID of Sports Illustrated. You can't trade Marino. Nice hat, asshole. This is the Dan Levitan Show. So before we, before we get to that, there's been NBA schedule leaking, leakage. All right. There's been leakage. And before we get to that, we, we do have, we do have some, I don't cut. We have a little bit of beef, it seems, on Twitter. So Norman Powell, Norman Powell, he's going to play for the Chicago Bulls this season. This past year he played for the Miami Heat. And Norman Powell, there was, I guess, a story done on him recently, you know, kind of like a profile because he's now with the Bulls. And as part of his, you know, departure from Miami, Norman Powell, Greg, was quoted here as saying, honestly, I thought I would be going back to Miami throughout the course of the year.

We knew they wanted to get Giannis. We heard some rumblings that Norm and Giannis sounds really good, so I thought that was the path, but it seemed like they were like, if you want Giannis, you have to take Bobby Portis. I think that played a part with the CBA rules and the hard cap with sending out money and receiving money. They could have made moves and done things if they wanted to. Obviously Wiggins would have had to opt out and take less than his $30 million, and they would have had to move Nico, but teams are gonna do what they want. They didn't make the moves necessary to do so, end quote. I would add real quick here, the Heat made no effort to keep Norman Powell, and the reason they made no effort to keep Norman Powell is because they wanted LeBron, you know, and you weren't going to be able to have both. So they took a gamble of not bringing back Norman Powell because they thought it was worth to go after LeBron. And it was also smart. A player wrong side of 30, career-type year, injury history— we're not giving multi-years for that, right?

That's ultimately what it boiled down to. Uh, do you have any problem with anything Norman Powell said? Said right there?

No, it didn't. I thought I hadn't heard that, and I thought you were preparing me for he was going to burn a bridge.

Seems pretty pragmatic.

Yeah, it seems very pragmatic. It seems pretty mild. I mean, I'm used to players going from one team to another and throwing some real shade at the other team. I didn't feel like that was that.

No, he's just saying I wanted to come back and, you know, they decided that they, you know, weren't going to offer me the money that, you know, they weren't in a position. And he specifically points out here, because, you know, they had to take Bobby Portis back in the deal, that takes up a certain amount of money. So that brings us now to Bobby Portis responding to that. All right. And in theory, you would say, I don't know, it didn't sound like Norman Powell said anything negative there about Bobby Portis.

I feel like the worst thing he's saying about Bobby Portis here is like, you're part of the math equation. Yeah. Like, you're— like, it was a numbers game and they had to put you in to make the numbers work. Like I feel like that's the most offended, if I'm Bobby Portis, I could get from that.

You look like you're in a Pringles commercial when they show the guy that's eating the Lay's and he takes his hand out of the bag and wipes it on his shirt. It's greasy, yeah.

Yeah, but my shirt's clean, dawg.

No, but that's the type of shirt that they wear because they carry Pringles.

But people who are listening, I don't want them to think now that I got like a dirty shirt on, alright? So you don't mischaracterize me like that. Bobby Portis, he then tweets out in response, he quote tweets.

Wow.

You know what a quote tweet is, Greg?

I do, yeah, how about that?

So I won't make you explain. So Bobby Portis, he responds to that with, "Yo Norm," and he tags Norm Powell. Alright. It already seems a little bit aggressive when he goes with— well, and the "Norm," you know, by shortening the name a little bit.

"Yo Norm." A little redundant because then he puts his handle. It could have just been "Yo" his handle.

Yeah, that's always weird. You're right. "Yo Norm, I always respected your game from a distance. We in the same draft. Shout out to 2015." Only about 9 of us left, but keep my name out your mouth, brother. I ain't no throwing piece. From champ to champ, respectfully, King. Be blessed, brother.

Wow.

That was respect. I like that. Yeah, that's a play on—

I feel like he so badly wanted to dunk on him on being, I'm a champ and you're not, but he's just like, from champ to champ. He like looked him up. He's like, damn, he does have a title.

It's an interesting mix of aggression with with love.

Yeah. You know, yeah, it, it, I, it was uncalled for. I, I think what Norman Powell wrote didn't deserve that. I think that was full of sarcasm.

And Norman Powell, who by the way seems like one of the most docile players in the league, right? Just seems like a nice guy.

And it's also weird that Norman Powell coming off an All-Star season, albeit his only one, and Portis is a sixth man. I mean, he's a nice player. I think he's a good piece that they got, but he's not a star. I mean, it's just weird.

Yeah, I don't— I will say I like this response from Bobby Portis because, because the Miami Heat need more of an edge, and this is a player with an edge. And whether he's overreacting or not, which is a little bit of an overreaction, but whether he's overreacting or not, the Miami Heat have been missing this edge. And, and we— I think we knew this about Bobby Portis when they acquired him, that he's their type of guy. I mean, what was my big thing after the last game of this past season where they lost to Charlotte. I mean, I came here the next day shouting, what happened to the team I love? And meaning like, your captain gets taken out on a dirty play and nobody does shit. And like, like in a microcosm, what happens to the team I love where you're not going to stand up for that guy? Where's the attitude?

Yeah, where's the UD? Where's the UD?

You know, where's the toughest, most physical, nastiest, meanest dirtiest team, hardworking in the NBA, like Pat Riley's mantra when he got here. And where did that team go? And I feel like Bobby Portis brings a little bit of that back.

You look like Santa, first day of the offseason, headed towards a cruise.

So is there a response? Like, is there more to this now?

Yeah, we have next. So basically Norman Powell reacting to what he said, what Portis said going viral.

Okay.

He basically put some face emojis. He's like, 1-line quotes just to make social media have a field day. And then some random person writes, if you want to hop on an episode, some guy just trying to get him on a podcast.

And then he—

and then Norman basically just goes on nothing.

What if the guy actually doesn't have a podcast? Just like, you want to talk on the phone with me? So then what else did Norman Powell say there in response? Okay, so, so the guy said, if you want to hop on, uh, it's the podcast.

That's a heady play by this guy, just trying to strike while the iron's hot.

Yeah, like, what if he doesn't even have a podcast? He's like, oh, here, call, here's the number, call in. It's just gonna have phone conversation with Norman Powell. So, like, all right, so Norman Powell, I guess, responded to that. And he said there's nothing to set straight. Like, we're all good. Is that what we're doing here? I guess so. Kind of downplay it. He says here, nothing to set straight. People see things on social media and run with their own opinions and assumptions. I know what I said and how I meant it. Everything else, just outside noise. But it's fun to go back and forth with fans that think they know everything. All right. There you go. All right. Yeah. An aggressive response from Bobby Portis.

But you like that, though.

I do like that. Yeah, I think the team needs to get back to what its roots had always been, and that's being a lot tougher than they've been for the last couple of years.

Overtly tougher.

Yeah. Even if it's unnecessarily tough.

Yeah.

Every once in a while, like, we got to get back to being that team that everyone hates.

He did respond to Bobby Portis directly, by the way.

Okay.

So he did say, I'm going to go ahead and clean this up the way that I would say this. You are my dog brother. Always supporting. You want to chop it up? Hit my line directly. Class of 2015, still hooping.

Nice. I didn't know that was a thing where it's like whatever your class is, like you rep your draft class.

Weird, right?

Okay.

You look like you just got drafted to Monday Night Raw.

Ooh, the red brand. So the Marlins were off yesterday, but the night before, two nights ago, Sandy Alcantara broke— he made history. Yeah. Right. And we know when he made history earlier this season, It was very controversial because he got the all-time strikeouts record and no one knew. Nobody knew about it. And not only did the crowd not know, and, and Tommy Hutton made sure to chastise everyone about not knowing, which I thought was a little bit unfair, but then it was really on the team who decided not even to acknowledge it.

Why?

I don't know. I don't know. So, so this occasion two nights ago when Sandy was— what are we talking here, Jeremy? Two and a third innings away.

Yes. At two and a third is when he set the record. After two innings, he tied the record. After two and a third innings, he set the record for the most innings pitched in Marlins history.

All right. Let's hear the historic moment here.

And his family here at the ballpark, they watch on.

He shook. He likes to do a changeup. 2-2 is cut on and missed. It was a cutter on the bottom rail, and Sandy's got the honor he's always coveted the most. Sandy Alcantara has gotten more outs than anyone who has ever put on a Marlins uniform, who has just set the Miami Marlins franchise record for career innings pitched. Okay, now I would say Lesson learned. I don't believe that the Marlins fan who you saw there, if you're watching on video, was standing and clapping. I don't think it's because they arrived at Lone Debo Park knowing that Sandy was 2 innings away. I think it's because the team did the right thing and put it on the scoreboard this time.

No doubt.

Yeah, we did let them know multiple times. Well, I'm— yeah, I'm part of the in-game, in-game. So I was, I was there before the game and it was fun.

So you said, hey, remember when you didn't let anybody know about the record? Let's do the opposite.

So being in the media meetings. There was all sorts of stuff that, that went down before the previous record that led to the graphic only being shown or supposed to be shown in between innings. There's no defense.

There's no defense.

I'm not defending.

Okay, good.

I'm articulating what happened from there.

No defense.

So what happened from there was when I walked into our meeting before the game about like, okay, where, where does everything go?

Do you like stand at the head of the table? You're like, guys, just want to Nah, I'm just— make sure we're all aware.

I'm a nice observer. I'm there to let the people behind the scenes do their job, and I'm just the pretty face at the front of the camera. But when I walk in, one of the first things that gets brought up is, okay, Sandy is 2 1/3 innings away. So after 2 innings, we will show a graphic in between innings.

Yep.

Which they did.

Yep.

So the inning comes to a close. There's a little standing ovation. He's tied the record. And then, no, in that 3rd inning, when Joe Mack throws the ball back to Sandy Alcantara, there will be pyro, there will be a graphic. There was a full meeting to make sure this goes off the right way, and it went great. It was really exciting to see. And Sandy really does covet that one because, look, longevity with this franchise— there's a reality in this that it hasn't always existed for so many players. We've seen Sandy in trade rumors for the last, what, 3, 4, 5, like basically every year of his career.

Yep.

And he has never been traded. He is now the guy who's thrown more innings in a Marlins uniform than anybody, in part not because he started the most games, but because he goes so deep into games as well. So to me, I'm like looking around at all the records that he set. I'm looking at a guy who's won a Cy Young. I'm like, are we, are we witnessing a guy who's already on the Mount Rushmore of Marlins players still presently in the uniform? And that, that's kind of a rarity where you get to know you're watching one of the greatest players in franchise history. As it's happening.

Marlins Mount Rushmore. Okay. Uh, I first— when I think of Marlins Mount Rushmore, the very first name that comes to my mind is Dontrelle.

Oh wow, okay. Yeah. Mine would be Miguel.

Okay, but that's two. Those two I think absolutely belong. Any objections? Dontrelle, Miguel Cabrera. Anyone object to those two being on the Mount Rushmore? I think that's a good place to start.

Konine and Cabrera?

Uh, well, Miguel is Cabrera.

Yeah.

No, I I'm just clarifying. We were having some conversation back here, so I'm clarifying. We're starting with Konine and Cabrera.

Okay, but we started with Dontrell and Miguel.

You started with Dontrell and Cabrera.

Yeah. Interesting. So those are two. Hmm. Is Konine a unanimous Mount Rushmore?

I don't think so.

I'm not sure.

I think we need to keep talking this out.

I'd vote Sandy on the mountain before Konine.

Well, I want to think if there was anyone we'd put before Sandy, like if there's anyone that would keep him out. Back out.

Sheffield.

What do we do about Jose?

Sheffield's a good nominee.

Didn't have enough longevity. Yeah.

Okay.

He was headed towards it.

Okay. Okay. So we got 2 for sure. Dontrell, Miguel Cabrera.

I can give you the guys who are in the Marlins Legends Hall of Fame because the first class was Konine and Luis Castillo. Luis Castillo, longevity and, you know, a champion. And I believe their hits leader. Um, it's Detrain and Beckett this year who will be inducted later, uh, this season.

To me, that, that's the debatable one, is I, I think Luis Castillo's up there. He was on both teams.

All right.

I think—

no, Castillo I'd put there before I would put Cabrera, if I'm being honest.

Yeah, that's our best player ever, right? The guy that's the most talented player we've ever had.

There's— right, and that's, that's where this question goes, right? Is, is most talented— Jose is the most talented pitcher they ever had.

This is the best versus greatest conversation because the best best player to ever play for the Miami Heat is LeBron James, right? The greatest player is Dwyane Wade, correct?

But Miguel Cabrera was still pretty great when he— it's not like he went on and had his best years somewhere else.

Well, he did win the Triple Crown.

He won the Triple Crown elsewhere and a bunch of MVPs.

No, but he was still amazing with the Marlins.

Yeah, but he won multiple MVPs with the other team.

Yeah.

Uh, do we play 5 seasons here?

Do we give— consider it— well, and of course World Series champion. And played a significant role on that team. Do we give Mike Lowell consideration?

Not ahead, not ahead of the guys we're talking about.

Not ahead of Sandy.

Consideration, though. Consideration. Great career. But let me say one more thing about Sandy before we get off this subject.

Lean back for it.

And, and, and I don't mean this as a criticism of him being thrilled about the innings pitched record. Career strikeouts record, much bigger record. Much more impressive, bigger. That deserved to be celebrated more than the innings pitched.

It was. It was celebrated in an equal way. It was just timed misappropriately.

Right.

The reality is the guy that we're forgetting about here is Giancarlo Stanton.

Oh, yeah.

Everyone's forgetting. We're talking this out.

Somebody misses when they, when they hit doesn't get to be on the highlight reel anymore.

Stanton.

That's amazing. Stanton is third in games played offensively for the Marlins. He played more games as a Marlin than Lowell did.

He was here for what, 7?

He's the franchise leader in homers by over 100 homers. He was an MVP. He's a guy that you probably consider not only ahead of Lowell, but if, if you're gonna do it with either Castillo or Konine and take one of those down.

That's a tough list.

Like, so that's where it's like, if I'm going 2 pitchers and 2 hitters, this is where the conversation goes. It's basically Dontrell, Beckett, and Sandy for me that I'm having that conversation with. And it's Castillo, Konine, and Stanton above, above Miguel Cabrera. He played 5 seasons here.

I gotta explain.

We're talking about the best players.

You can go Cabrera and Fernandez, but I don't think that's I think this is pretty simple. It's pretty simple to me. It's Sandy, Dontrell, Miguel Cabrera, Luis Castillo. That's the best 4.

I got to tell you, I think I have a hard time putting Sandy over there on ahead of Beckett.

Really?

Game 6, short rest.

World Series.

I think I got a hard time doing that. It's a very tough list. All right.

Surprisingly tough.

The nation is excited about this debate, though.

Oh, this is good. This is a little flower. Down, Levitar!

Hello.

This is not Greg Cody. Greg Cody.

That kind of thing.

And you know it. This is the Dan Levatar Show. So speaking of baseball, it's very rare, guys. It's very rare that I get excited about something in the regular season, Major League Baseball. And last night I was excited about something. All right. Because I love quirky bullshit in baseball. And last night in Toronto, the Red Sox were playing at the Jays. Boy, did we have some quirky bullshit. All right. Did you see this? You know what I'm talking about here?

Yes.

Yes. So the Jays beat the Red Sox last night, 2 to 1. But in the 7th— and the Red Sox are like the best team in baseball. In the 7th inning though last night, the score was 2-0. Top of the 7th inning, Red Sox were at bat. The score was 2-0, Jays. There's runners on 1st and 3rd. You following along here, Greg?

Yes, I am.

Slow me down if you lose track.

No, I'm good.

There's runners on 1st and 3rd. There is 1 out. The scoreboard in the stadium says 2 out. There's a pop fly into center field. The Red Sox baserunners think there's 2 out, so they're moving on contact. First and third, outs made in center field, but it's only the second out. And the Jays in the field know this, and they throw the ball— like, they're confused, what, why did these guys run? They throw the ball to first, out number 3, because the guy, you know, was already on second.

Inning over.

The umpires though award the run. Award the run. Even though the guy didn't tag, award the run because the run scored, crossed home plate before the runner was picked off of first base. So that run counts now to make it 2-1. But the Jays are all kinds of confused in the crowd, in the, in the, in the field. So here's the umpire. The umpires are now mic'd up, which is great by the way, because you go back just a few years ago, this was always a problem with Major League Baseball, where as opposed to if a strange play happens in the NBA, alright, the PA announcer's gonna come on and explain what the hell's going on. That doesn't happen in baseball. Like, everybody in the crowd is like, "Alright, the inning's over, they're upset about something, I don't know what, so I guess we're just gonna keep it moving." It's like a weird baseball thing. At least now the umpires have a microphone and they can explain a little bit of what's going on. So here is the umpire, the home plate umpire. He's mic'd up and he's explaining now what is going on. All of you at home.

Okay, so what we have here is we have a time play, meaning when the third play, when the third out was made at first base with the runner not tagging up, the runner that was on third base also did not tag but crossed home plate before —before the third out was made at first base. So that is a time play. We are going to New York to check, do a rules check. Right, so they went to New York to check if the runner touched home. He didn't tag, but if he touched home before the third out at first base was made. And it turned out he touched home first. So the run scores, the inning is over, and it's not like now you know, "Hey, but what happened? Like, he didn't tag there." So this is such a stupid, quirky baseball thing where even though the umpire— the umpire knows. The third base umpire's watching. But he didn't tag. He just went and scored. But hey, if the defense doesn't try and appeal right here, I'mma allow it, you know? And that's exactly what happened. Yeah, the umpire's explanation was tortured.

It was staggering, and he didn't know how to explain it.

It's like, "This is gonna sound so stupid, but I'm gonna try." And it did.

And it did. It's the It's the weirdest comedy play in baseball since Abbott and Costello did Who's on First in 1938. I saw the video like 3 or 4 times, and I'm still not sure exactly what happened. Players are going like this. Further away.

It was weird. When the umpire starts with, okay, it doesn't inspire a ton of confidence. That was my concern right from the jump.

But how crazy is it that you don't have to tag? You don't have to wait until the ball is caught. It only matters if the defense— not the umpire— if the defense catches you. The umpire can catch you, but the umpire's gonna let it go only if the defense has a problem with it.

Reference from 88 years ago. My confusion was not any better after listening to the sideline reporter try to explain how Max Scherzer felt, because I still didn't understand what had happened. I heard her report before you explain these rules to me.

I did a good job explaining. You did great. Yeah, you did great.

I love quirky rules. Yeah, it's amazing. The fourth out is like the craziest thing.

Now let me explain. Do you know the fourth out rule, Greg? I don't. Okay, so this came into play yesterday. There's— Chris, do you know the fourth out rule? I've never heard of it. Okay, so in a circumstance like this, because it's like, oh, you know, maybe the, the fielders, they, they want to get the third out, they want to get out of the inning, and the quickest way to do that is not to throw to third but to throw to first base and get the third out. So they shouldn't be penalized for trying to get a third out and then that allows the run to score because of a timing play. That's when the fourth out rule comes into play. What you can do there is get the third out at first base, but then you have to also immediately appeal— like, the inning's technically over, but you can then immediately appeal at third. But here's the thing. Are your players and the pitchers still on the field? Because if they start walking off the field, the inning's over now. And that's what happened last night. You can't appeal for a fourth out if your team is walking off the field.

Then the inning is really over. And that's what happened.

I mean, I guess the simplest solution for the fielders of like, how do we avoid this is if multiple runners take off, you get the lead. You don't throw to the first base, you get the lead. I'm just trying to think of if I'm a coach. Trying to teach my players how to avoid this again. If there's ever a situation where every runner takes off, let's not go to first base. Let's attack the lead base. It's just insane. That's why baseball gives you these instances. A couple weeks ago, Jeremy, I don't remember what it was, but there's just always these plays in baseball that you don't see in other sports. Every other sport, we've seen that play happen before. Baseball gives you the wildest shit.

Nah, the simple solution is have a guy who can operate the scoreboard correctly.

Well, maybe the scoreboard was broken.

I think the, I think the runners need to understand what's going on.

I think that the in-stadium entertainment staff works really, really hard and no one should be fired over something as stupid as this.

You got one job out, guys.

The fourth out. The fourth out is crazy.

I had no idea. I didn't know that was a thing. Yeah. You have just explained to me something that I had no idea about.

Because they tried, they apparently tried to appeal for the fourth out and the home plate umpire waved them off and said, nope, Nope, too late.

So it was like after they'd already left, so this is sort of like the MLB's challenge thing where it's like if you don't touch your helmet quick enough they won't do the challenge, so this is a situation where because they were walking off the field and someone went, hey, should we maybe appeal that over— it was too late.

Too late. That is bizarre. Baseball, man. I love baseball. And again, the weirdest part to me is a few years ago, before home plate umpires had microphones, all of this bullshit would be happening And everyone, 25,000, 30,000 people in attendance are not allowed to know what's going on.

Right. And chances are the announcers wouldn't know.

But at least at some point the announcers kind of figure it out and then tell the audience. But the people in attendance like, I don't know what's happening.

You look like Connor Stallion scouting Wisconsin.

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