Transcript of The Big Suey: The "How Is This Okay?" Hour

Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebitard podcast.

I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that.

In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it.

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Juju, put these questions on the poll, please. Why was Lady Gaga there? Yes or no? No. Also, Was anyone clamoring for a remade television show of the Teddy Bear Ted? Yes or no?

My son and I watch it. It's hilarious.

You're way off, basically. I'm not even sure if people know what you're talking about based on how you said that. The Teddy Bear Ted.

What? The Teddy Bear Ted. The Teddy Bear Ted. How much clearer could I have made it? I think it's in its third season, and it's on Peacock.

I'm just wondering whether anybody was clamoring for that.

Yeah, I think so, since it's a multi-season run and popular IP, and you can find it right here on Peacock.

Also, I saw on the broadcast early as they were showing all of the celebrities, they were saying, And there is Jay-Z with his crew. And Beyoncé's there. Beyoncé's more famous than Jay-Z at this point. Is she not? Put it on the poll at Lebitard's show. Who's more famous, Jay-Z or Beyoncé? I don't like how they're scrambling back there.

She was not there. That was his daughter.

That was his daughter, Blue Ivy Carter.

But again, looks just like her.

Just like her. What, Dan?

That's a compliment, I guess.

I knew once they started moving back there.

Did any of you- Quick pressure with four. Did any of you watch the North Carolina Duke game? Because I really didn't.

Again, Dan, to be fair, though, a twin, very much looks like her mom.

It was quick. It was a flash.

It was sideways, too.

I saw that same thing. I was like, Oh, there's Jay, and it's like, Oh, wait a second.

Man, that's not Beyoncé.

I'm I'm telling you, very close.

What? Did you guys watch North Carolina Duke because- I did.

I did not watch the very end. I fell asleep. I thought that game was over.

Mike, Duke was leading the entire game. It remains a mystery to me today how North Carolina won that game because it very much was in the last four minutes of that game. Three, three, three, three. Out of nowhere, college basketball players can't actually shoot. They're all learning how to play basketball. They're all terrible shooters. You never see threes go down like that. Bang, bang, bang. And then the last one hits, and you got to let them storm the court, and you got to leave the four-tenths of a second off of the clock. Don't get everyone off of the court. John Shier is saying after the game that one of his staffers got punched. No one saw the staffer get punched, and there's still not video evidence of the staffer getting punched.

In his defense, there are very rarely cameras at a Duke, North Carolina, game.

They rush everyone off the court and then play the last four-tenths of a second. So then you get the court storming again after that. You get two court storms. But North Carolina deserve to enjoy the revelry of winning that game because having watched that game, I still don't understand how they won that game.

Yeah, North Carolina fans and the students should be embarrassed, to be ashamed of themselves. You're North Carolina basketball. You storm in the court.

That was a pretty fun way to win.

It doesn't matter, though. Duke's top five.

Duke is top five.

It's five. It's their rival. And UNC is ranked, too. Unc is also ranked.

That's a top five win.

Rank first ranked, you don't storm.

Unc basketball, UNC should storm the court against nobody.

They hate Duke the most. They would only storm the court against Duke. That's the one.

But you storm the court because you just did something improbable. So UNC basketball is telling me that beating Duke is now improbable?

Not improbable, but a top five Duke team that's a very good team.

You can be excited, but you don't storm. It can be a ruckus atmosphere. You go crazy, but you don't storm because you've been here before.

I get your larger point, and in a vacuum, I don't even really disagree with you, But you're saying when it's improbable, you can storm the court. Well, if you watch this game, it was improbable. That was a wire-to-wire ass-kicking that they were on the receiving end of. I still am confused because I fell asleep, and I fell asleep because I'm like, This That game did not deliver.

Storm in the court doesn't mean anything anymore. It doesn't. It has no meaning anymore.

Chris Cody, what did you put in front of the atmosphere? What is the word? Oh, no.

Ruckus.

So you made it a ruckus.

A ruckus atmosphere, no?

A rauckus atmosphere.

Rauckus.

It was both, though, because it was also a ruckus. It turned into a ruckus because- Nailed it. Yeah, but you didn't nail it.

Two birds, one stone.

Wait, what?

No, I said something meant something else, but it fits.

So on this day, though, Bill Belichick shows up. We were talking about this last week, right? We were talking about the Panthers fighting with the lightning, and we were talking about rivalries, but also players actually hating each other. And when you see a North Carolina game against Duke, their luminaries show up. Their people all show up, former players. And it's a really fun, different thing. And these schools hate each other, and that hatred gets passed down generationally from parents. So Bill Belichick goes to the game with Jordan Hudson, and she's wearing... What is the shirt she is wearing there? Can you describe Can you describe it to the audio audience there?

It is an Orchids of Asia day spa T-shirt, obviously custom-made. This is the massage parlor that was tied to Robert Kraft's prostitution bust in 2019.

How do you know the parlor doesn't sell them?

Good point by him. Do you have rocks in your mouth?

When he delivers a good point, he does it with a little rubble. When he's got you cornered.

I've been around him so long that I can speak. But if I just met you, I wouldn't know what the hell you just said.

How do you not know that they don't sell them? Because you're saying it's custom made, and as a journalist, he's questioning your verification. I'm on it.

Cool. Then she went down to the day spa that was connected to Robert Kraft's 2019 prostitution bus.

She probably could have just ordered it on Amazon. It doesn't have to be. She doesn't have to go down to Bocca.

All right, let's not get bogged down here. There was intention. All right. This is evil. This is sinister. This is calling attention to this.

This is trolling.

This is speaking to all the conspiracy theories out there that Robert Kraft is is behind Bill Belichick not getting into the Hall of Fame. You want to talk about this is a purposeful distraction for Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick is going to play dumb there. They did this with intention. They don't get to play the whole, Leave us alone, we're not asking for any of this card. That is, We are looking for this attention. We have a message to share.

Do you think this is him being like, Hey, you should do this? Or is this her, Hey, I have this idea. Remember, he did this and Bill's just like, Oh, I don't know.

This cares.

They're both having a laugh over it.

I am just curious the dynamic there of who's the actual mastermind behind this?

This is a crazy move.

This is staggering in its pettiness. When I saw this, I was like, Whether Bill knows or not, I cannot believe the size of this pettiness. Look, man, I have rarely seen my wife how she gets when she gets that way defense of me. She doesn't do it in defense of herself. It's when someone has wronged me, what it stirs in her is something that is nastier than I'm used to seeing from her. I don't know whose idea this was. I can't imagine that it was Belichick's idea, but it is born of whatever it is that Belichick is telling her about Bob Kraft, that she would wear a T-shirt that represents Robert Kraft's greatest public shame. There is none worse than this than him being caught as an old man in a Bocca tanning strip mall center in the middle of a sex trafficking ring, allegedly. He has no greater public shame to wear that T-shirt while standing next to Belichick at North Carolina Duke when the Patriots are in the Super Bowl is a breathtaking amount of petty, a flabbergasting amount of petty.

It's right up there with that time, Robert Kraft auditioned for that movie.

Can we get that? Can we get that video? Because I think I got in trouble for playing that on ESPN one time before Robert Kraft. Actually, before Bill Belichick ended up with the young girlfriend, Robert Kraft, a recently widowed Robert Kraft, was doing auditioning for a part, acting or helping a young woman in a part. I forgot about that. I got in trouble for playing that on ESPN on Highly Questionable. I don't what phone calls got made where, but I found out after playing it because I was so delighted by it. It's an 80-year-old owner sitting there acting opposite... Here we go. A Heather Graham.

Have you gotten in trouble before? Do it here.

Do it again. A Heather Graham lookalike, yes, in a bikini top. See if you can find the sound, because the audition is truly terrible. He's a cigar store wooden Indian for acting. He's absolutely not Not a good actor. Go ahead and play it.

How do you know the parlor doesn't sell them?

I found that one first.

How do you know the parlor doesn't sell them?

How do you know the parlor doesn't sell them? I'll be honest with you. At first, I wasn't sure what I said there. How do you know the parlor doesn't sell them? It's tough to make out what I said.

How do you know the parlor doesn't sell them?

It's when you're at your most confident and most relaxed, when you know you've got a killer line, your jowels get a little a little looser, and you really let it fly there, and you had a good one.

There's an air of confidence to that.

How do you know his four words?

How do you know the- How do you know the- How do you know the- I don't want to see you after a couple of brown liquors in you.

How do you know the...

Whatever. It had the effect.

How do you know the- I didn't understand them.

Had the effect of what?

I understand them, but I've known them for 20 years.

Got the point across.

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You guys are surprised by how petty that is, right? That you would just do any of that publicly. Not that you would feel it. I'm stunned. Not that you would feel it, but that you would That you would allow anybody to feed on this petty.

It's not even just that it's the weekend that the Patriots are in the Super Bowl and obviously six championships with the Super Bowl with the Patriots. But Drake May went to the school that he that works at and is in the Super Bowl that weekend with the Patriots. And this is why Belichick's an asshole. And I find it funny that he was left out of the Hall of Fame. That's why that was funny to me last week when Belichick now has to wait because he's a dick.

Am I the only one that can see a scenario where he doesn't really know what's happening here? Oh, stop.

That's what he's counting on. For everyone to just think these doddering old man that doesn't get the reference.

What did he clearly say? That's going to get picked up. You're just making more news for me. It just feel like if she pitches that-So he's a victim. Look, I'm not trying to say that. I'm sure he is aware a little bit. I don't know. It just seems so obvious that this would make news that he would try to avoid it.

If it bothered him- If it bothered him, no. He's actually looking for it.

Right.

That is insanely petty.

No. That's the part that I also find to be incredibly hypocritical. It's something that he was doing this entire first year at UNC. For the coach who in the NFL, we're dealing with professional players was all about no distractions. It's only about the team don't do or say anything that takes any of the attention away from football. And he is nonstop with, let's take attention away from the team.

Okay, the The thing that I want to go down the path on, though, and thank you, Chris, for doing that, because I think we're all in agreement, he can't be an innocent victim on all of this. But beyond petty, I suppose you can make the argument on behalf of it being artful content-wise. But if that's the way you feel, Bill, say it. Don't drape your 20-year-old girlfriend in it. If that's the way you feel, stop with not congratulating Drake May when they win and he's the North Carolina quarterback and doing some of the stuff that you do. Say it. Quit hiding behind. You're a champion coach. If this is the that you feel, don't drape it in the tournament that your girlfriend is wearing.

It's small and pathetic. It's pathetic what he's doing to have Jordan wear that shirt and send that message out. The weekend that that franchise is in the Super Bowl, when you know people are going to be looking at you and decontextualizing everything, every single one of your moves out in public with one another. I am flabbergasted at how ugly this has gotten publicly because in my mind, he did just say it. In my mind, that is a statement with a craft statement a couple of days earlier saying Bill deserves and trying to high road it. For him to come back in low road like that is nuts.

Mike, if he said it, if Bill Belichick said it, what about Robert Kraft being caught at that sex parlor? If he said it, it would be headlines and it would be nonstop. It wouldn't be whispered about and it wouldn't have, I'm not sure. Did he know? Is he a doddering old man? If he said it, it would be headlines for days and there would be no misunderstanding about, Oh, he actually hates everything in that organization now. He's not said that.

Yeah, I am not. Maybe you guys are putting more stock into the did he or did he not know?

It's just so tasteless.

It's so obvious. It's so obviously tasteless. I have to imagine he can't be this aggressively petty.

He's showing us who he is.

No, I mean, that's wild if he is.

The thing about it, though, is Again, hurt people hurt people. This is Bob Kraft's greatest public shame. You're hitting in the softest spot. He was widowed, and he loved his wife, and their love was a public love that everyone in New England knows about. An old man was caught at a Bocca strip mall in the middle of a ring in which he made a lot of that stuff go away. Because of the amount of power that he has, a lot of that stuff was a momentary blip, and then he fought it, and then it went away. Bill Belichick being with someone who's purposely showing off at that game this weekend, Bob Kraft's greatest public shame. I would like there to be more… If that's the amount of petty that Belichick has in him, I would like to hear it spoken instead of us having to interpret Whether or not it's so when they're making it this obvious. What are you shaking your head about, Tony?

Dan, everything that you're saying, I'm listening to it, and I'm thinking of one thing. You could have said all those different things and just switched the name. It's exactly what Yannis did, too, by the way. Just standing behind an absolute- Just say it, man. Just say it. You want to get traded, but you don't want to get traded. I want to find a new home, but now you come out after the trade deadline and say, No, I attract stars. No, you don't. No, you You have Miles Turner. You had Kyle Kuzma. You didn't attract shit. You know who you attracted?

The guy that they cut from Brooklyn.

Okay?

But this isn't the reason. You're talking about what happened with him and this alternate gambling market that there is that is predicting futures.

You're talking about- He hasn't even gotten started.

I haven't even started that. I haven't even started that.

That ruined his legacy, by the way. This is a open and shut. What are we doing here? Ruined his legacy.

Open and shut?

Yeah, Pablo, five minutes on the Kalsi-Yana's thing. How How is this allowed? How is it allowed? He waits until his name is in the news cycle for weeks on end to announce a Cal sheet prediction market partnership. That's not something that just comes together. After the trade deadline.

After the trade deadline.

While he's manipulating the markets.

Don't worry. Adam Silver will get on it.

They're taking millions of dollars in bets as to which team he'll land on on that platform. And then he comes out after being all coy and stuff and saying he's a partner.

You weren't even talking about that, though? No, he wasn't. You're just talking about just his other social media behavior of, I don't leave, I attract stars.

Yes, putting the Jordan Belfort Wolf of Wall Street thing up saying, I'm not leaving. Buddy, three weeks ago, you said you wanted to find a new home, and then your dog and pony show with Milwaukee.

They called it a side show. It was a side show. Maybe we should revisit what Brian Windhorse was saying there because the teams were left with the impression, Oh, these guys aren't serious about moving him, and then they didn't move him. Teams were informed the evening before the deadline that they were not moving him, but it was absolutely something that prediction markets were getting handles on, and it was something that he perpetuated. So now he comes out as a partner for this platform as a financial backer of Cal sheet. He stood to gain from all the action they took. Do you not... Am I... Is this nuts?

How is this allowed? Yeah, it's crazy, especially because those partnerships don't happen overnight. And over the course of the time after it was brought up by Shams that, Hey, Yannis wants out of Milwaukee, and they're looking at trades, and the bucks are taking it seriously. $23 million were put into Kalchi over whether or not he would leave Milwaukee. $23 million. And He is a financial investor in this company, and that comes out the day after in this way that is so cocky about it. It was brazen in the way he went about it. It was shocking.

And guess what? It's not regulated.

Not regulated at all. Not regulated.

You can put whatever you want in whatever amount of money and be like, All right, yeah, I'm here. I'm in Wisconsin. Here it is. Boom.

He also announced a partnership, an ownership stake in Chelsea Women's Football Club. It seemed as though Yannis used the trade deadline, and his name being in the news, as a setup for a whole marketing rollout on partnerships that were trotted out not even 48 hours after the NBA Trade Deadline. That is with intention.

That is an obvious conflict of interest, and I want to get into what it is that Tony was saying about ruined legacy, because I don't believe that this will stick to him in any meaningful way, no matter how mad Miami people are that they did not get him. But when we talk about some of the stuff going on with gambling markets in general and how much we don't know about the behavior of some of our athletes and where they're conflicted. I don't know if you guys have seen Emmanuel Clase, the Guardian's closer, was as good a closer as there was in the sport. Now the numbers are he manipulated 48 games. There were 48 games where he was throwing. It's a lot more than people thought. He was really terrible last year. It didn't make any sense that he terrible because he's a dominant closer. So he's never going to play baseball again. He's going to get banned for life. And that news comes out as Yacio Puig, who came from Cuba and was an uncommon phenon in baseball, he now faces 20 years in federal prison because of his involvement in gambling in Los Angeles that he was doing privately.

He wasn't even doing it through any of these regulated or unregulated sources and then lied to federal investigators. So now he's facing 20 years. You're talking about somebody who was a Dodger superstar, somebody who was a legitimate baseball phenom now faces 20 years. When you say ruined legacy, guys, on this. I don't believe anyone's talking about this. I have heard no one, never mind ruined legacy on Yannis, I've heard no one talking or caring about the conflict that you guys are talking about, which is you can't do what he just did. That's not something that should be allowed to happen quietly. That's not something that should be allowed to happen with people not noticing it. People shouldn't notice Bill Belichick's girlfriend's shirt more than they notice this particular conflict. When we talk about foreign players, when I talk about Emmanuel Clase, Yassi Al-Pouyg, Yannis Antetokoumpo, when they come to this country, they have to live by our rules. But what are the rules here? This stuff's not governed. What are the rules when the President of the United States has taken $500,000 from the... Was it $500,000 or $500 million? I don't even know what it was.

Some ridiculous fee that he was taking that he says he doesn't know about because his sons are involved in it, and it involves giving away AI information in exchange for that money because everything's compromised now. It doesn't matter what's regulated, what's not regulated. Rules don't matter anymore. No one's talking about, set up the conflict again so that people understand who don't understand There was plenty of advertising for this during the Super Bowl because unregulated gambling, unregulated gambling is-Well, they call it futures markets, Dan.

It's like prediction market, right? It's a prediction market.

Correct. Predictions are largely unregulated. Look, LeBron has a marketing partnership with DraftKings. Kevin Durant has done stuff with ownership stakes in the betting space. But prediction markets and platforms that are totally dedicated to prediction markets, this is This is something new that the NBA is dealing with. There hasn't been precedent, I don't think, for somebody that has a stake in a sole prediction market platform. To have it all roll out by the deadline is crazy Easy. It seems like did this not go through some compliance with the NBA? A partnership like this cannot be taking the NBA by surprise, which is why I'm stunned at the timing. Because if the NBA knew about this and it cleared their checks and balances, the optics of this, given everything that's going on with salary cap circumvention in that league, are terrible. It's terrible optics because you're looking at what happened with this trade and the honest pursuit. You could very I can't really see now that it's over, that, Oh, Yannis manipulated this a little bit. The narrative around his actual departure wasn't the truth.

It's not going to stick to him, though. Ruined legacy. You guys are getting carried away with that. You guys can shake. Jeremy, you can shake your head all How do you have this sticking to him?

I'm telling you, a lot of people felt differently about him over the last 48 hours after that than they did before. Yeah, heat fans. No. You should have seen the way Did the RPA internet reacted to this? People calling for him to be in prison over what just happened in the manipulation of these markets. I'm talking about reputable people. I'm not talking about random heat fan, one, two, three.

I'm not I'll determine how reputable.

Oh, he put you on the spot there. Name somebody who said, Yana should be imprisoned. I'll go grab the name. I feel for Jeremy here because you just cornered him. I'm surprised you didn't say it with the marbles in your mouth. How about your name?

To be fair, though.

How do you know the person?

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Go ahead. You want to be fair?

Why do we need to be fair? We're scoring by Yannis. No, no, no. Let's wear our bias on our sleeves.

What I was going to say, outside of the Cal sheet-We are calling for jail.

Trying to figure out who is in prison.

That is the official position of the scorned heat fan is we are calling for jail.

At least wait two weeks before you spit in my face. With Cal sheet-That's the thing. If this happened next week, all right, not as painful.

But the next day- And less shady. And less shady.

Can I tell you who should be in jail? I'm being serious here. Who's that Zaz? The head coach of the Utah Jazz, Will Hardy. You see what happened on Saturday night? I'm being serious now. No.

This is a good I did not see what the Utah Jazz did on Saturday.

He should be in prison. I'm being serious. Really? So Saturday night- Hold on.

Before you get any further, I love the Amin stat of three years ago, the Utah Jazz had the single worst defensive season of any team ever, topped only by what they did the next season, two seasons ago, topped only by what they're doing this season. That's why he should be in prison, okay? But continue.

So I'm going to enter some more evidence then to the case, all right? So the Utah Jazz, they traded for Jaron Jackson Jr. Last week. It's clearly looking toward the future, all right? But they're still tanking, okay? Because their pick is protected if it's one through four. If it's five through nine, they have to give it up. I think maybe to the Clippers. But it's protected one through four, so they still want to lose. Okay, the Utah Jazz on Saturday night, they're playing at the Orlando Magic. The Jazz were up by seven going into the fourth quarter. In In the fourth quarter, Laurie Markinen, who had 27 points through three quarters, did not play a single second in the fourth quarter. Good player. Jaron Jackson Jr, who had 22 points through three quarters, did not play a single second in the fourth quarter. Starters Yusuf Nerkich and Keante George also did not play a single second in the fourth quarter. Predictably, the Orlando Magic came back and won the game 120 to 117. Let me ask you something. When Jante Porter purposely He obviously comes in with unders, underpoints, underrebound. This is a federal fence because he is manipulating gambling odds.

The Utah Jazz head coach here, not before the game, where they were like, Listen, we're trying to tank, so we're going to sit guys, and they're going to play, and if they win, they win, and if they don't, they don't. Things were not going the way that the Utah Jazz wanted through three quarters because they want to lose games. In the middle of the game, the head coach decided to make strategic moves to ensure that the team loses. That's not point shaving?

They said before the game that Keante George would be on a minute's restriction, but nobody else. That is- Isn't that the definition of point shaving?

You're making strategic in-game decisions to make sure that a specific outcome losing happens. That's point shaving.

Look, I usually think you're a sucker. You're dead on this.

How is this okay?

Look, this is what we're discussing. This is what this hour is. How is any of this Okay, Jordan Hudson.

We've said that for all three stories.

Jordan Hudson, how is this okay? Yana's having conflict of interest with a predictions market. How is this okay? And also the Utah Jazz losing on purpose. How is this okay?

Jeremy did find some support online. He found someone asking, Openly, is this okay?

A credible person? Yes, reputable. Ogie and Inobi addict at playoffboundnyk. Hold on, wait. Read that again? Yeah, Ogie and Inobi addict. I thought you said it was Ogie Ananobi. Me too. I was like, okay. At playoffboundnyk asks, How is this legal? Not reputable. No?

He's made the ruling.

There is an MLB journalist that had questioned how it's not manipulating markets. Who? Clark Spencer? I don't want to throw him under the bench. Who?

Clark Spencer?

Well, June Lee.

Yeah, June Lee did a whole- June Lee is on that beat. June Lee It was all about gambling's taking the joy away from sports. I don't know, man. When Henderson got that catch at the end, your boy was pretty happy.

When AJ Barner scored that first touch down, Dan, I was elated.

Just needed a half a rushing yard from You got a defensive touch down, too.

What did that pay? What is a defensive touch down? No, I'm not asking you how much you bet. I'm saying was it 7-1, 10-1? What does it pay for a deal? What were the odds on a... Because I think Damosheck said... I was thinking about Damosheck because he said it was 11 to 1 odds that you get for a safety, and they were pinned inside their five-yard line. They were the one. The ingredients were perfect to get a safety given. Will Campbell was out there. They can't block anybody, and it's the number one defense pinning the Patriots inside of their six-yard line three different times. That would have paid 11 to 1. But what did a defensive countdown... Can you guys look at... 8: 50. 8: 50. That's pretty good.

And I got A. J. Barnerts plus 7: 50.

So Smith and Jigba leaves that game, and it doesn't even end up mattering because of how it is that the Seahawks... And Collinsworth saw it early. It's 3: 00, middle of the first quarter. He's like, Oh, this is going to be a defensive game. There's going to be no answer for what's present recently happening out on the field at any point from the Patriots. But did you guys on the commercials, we have not talked about the commercials. It's the only time at any point in the year that anyone talks about or pays attention to commercials. I thought that the Goodwill, what was it? The Goodwill Duncan commercial, that that was going to feed a certain demo for the nostalgic among you. They bring out Ted Danson from Cheers, and they make him look young. They made all these people look the age they were when they were in the '90s. The whole commercial was meant to feed the demo of, Did You Love This Stuff Back in the '90s, 30 years ago. It's a commercial for old people, and it's summing parts that a whole generation of people don't even know Ted Danson as the bartender from Cheers.

I don't even know if they necessarily watch Friends, although it plays on commercials everywhere. I also didn't understand why they wouldn't get Matt Damon, given that he was in the last Duncan commercial with Affleck and Belichick and Jordan Hudson. Why did they have Ben Affleck playing the role of Matt Damon when they could have just gotten Matt Damon, who didn't participate in the commercial?

At the end of the commercial, there was a little disclaimer that said, Back in the '90s, there was a real leading man who played Will Hunting in a movie that was very popular, trying to appeal to Gen Z in that respect. I would have really loved this commercial if they didn't de-age these guys. If they would have looked exactly how they look now, but with the wigs to deage them as opposed to the stupid, Why are we doing this CGI to try to deage these people? It's so stupid. None of us want to see all of this AI manipulating all of it. It's so frustrating.

I'll tell you, speaking of the CGI, that Jurassic Park CGI, awful.

I didn't like it. Awful. Left me uncomfortable with the deaging. It's terrible. I'm with you. That looked bad, although I did enjoy the nostalgia of the commercial.

Did anyone have more commercials commercials than Jeff Goldbloom? Did any one person have more commercials? I know this is- Backstreet Boys.

How thrilled were their agents when all those emails started rolling in? I actually thought the karaoke one for Coinbase was pretty good.

That one got the attention of our room. I couldn't get anyone to shut up, but everyone started singing when that one came on.

Yeah, and because of that, my entire Super Bowl party started booing when it ended up being for freaking Coinbase. Everyone's so excited, Oh, karaoke. What is this going to be? Coinbase? Really?

What's your deal? You don't like crypto. We get it.

What's your deal?

It was Denny's. You would have been good. It cares. Yeah.

Yes, Denny's would have been fine for him.

Grand Slam.

Mike Tyson did a commercial for healthy eating There has been in the history of, I'm going to say, American sports and American marketing, never been someone like Mike Tyson. You can never have a convicted rapist be in commercials for your things. That's not something that's ever been so. He navigates a space that no- Why is that? He's that famous and that recognizable that the Q rating is somehow... You guys say that this is going to ruin Yannis' legacy. There are some legacies that are so large that they're almost not ruinable with little things. Not that being in prison for rape for three years is a little thing, but his life is so crazy throughout that somehow that is a spot on it that's not the lead spot and can somehow get erased over years, somehow in a way that doesn't totally make sense to me, because there's never been someone in the history of marketing who gets to occupy this particular space.

He was in a terrible space. You know what put him over? The hangover. That movie put him over back into the good graces of everybody in society.

But convicted rapist doesn't ever get to be spokesman for commercial things during the Super Bowl, and there's not even a public objection.

And someone who's generally well-liked.

Well, it's because of what Tony is saying. It's because the hangover, all of a sudden, he went from menacing to being somebody in a comedy that we can laugh with and was making fun of himself. But again, convicted rapist. And not just convicted rapist, but told me one time, yeah, I was more comfortable there than I was on the outside. I didn't want to actually leave. My life was better in there than it is on the outside because I got a bunch of people grabbing it, a whole bunch of stuff that I want on the outside and on the inside, nobody messes with me, and I could just be alone, and my life is easier. What were the top three commercials, though, by consensus? The Goodwill Duncan commercial was one of them, was it not? I understand Tony making a face because it was for a demo, and it's not Tony's demo.

I knew a couple of guys, but then after that, I was like, Okay, whatever.

There were two others that I I liked the NFL tight-end prostate commercial. That was very funny. And the Budweiser.

The Budweiser one was the best one of the entire night.

With the Clydesdale and then the bald eagles.

With Free Bird playing in the background, and they had the eagle coming up with a horse.

I was like, Oh, America Jack. You didn't stand up and Sheer? When- Hell, yeah.

Everybody should be careful. What else, Roy? Do you have any committees? Do the rest of you have any committees for the commercials that people were talking about yesterday?

No, good work, Duncan, was the best one for me, I believe.

Ben Stiller, Benson Boon.

Falling off the stage is funny.

Yeah, but the thing about that commercial, and I always have an objection to this because I do very little in the way of retention. I'll remember your commercial, but not necessarily what you were advertising because the commercial is so far afield. Ben Stiller as dodgeball rock star who's getting- It's the card. Yeah, but you don't remember because it doesn't- It has nothing to do with it's the card. It doesn't have anything to do with anything. It's just a I'm sure you remember, but you don't remember the product as it relates to marketing. Finally, though, and I'm glad Bad Bunny has a quicker video team than the one that we have, we have located the Bob Kraft audition that was his greatest public shame before the massage parlor. Hi, I'm Ricky Lander, and I'm auditioning for Mary Lena. Okay. Yes. That is burned in my memory.

You can stop now.

You. Wow.