Transcript of The Big Suey: Magical Sprinkle Juice

Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebitard podcast. I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it.

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I am interested in talking to the group about what were the big takeaways from the weekend because in professional football, just a terrific week one. Crazy, the end of the one o'clock hour games, and the last game would be the best of the games is football introducing itself, reintroducing itself to us in the most seismic way possible. It's a very well-run league. The teams are very competitive with each other. The games matter, and Sundays are holidays around here, and college football even got engulfed this weekend because it didn't have anything as interesting as what it is that was happening yesterday. So many interesting things that I'm putting low on the list. The packers bullied the lions there, and Micah Parsons is a defensive player anybody would want to have. And good God, the packers dragged of the field with, listen to this stat. There have been three quarterbacks ever who have won 13 games in a season with two different teams. It's braided, it's Manning, and it's Goff. It's Goff. And Detroit, for all its offense, was ransacked by a packer's defense that I thought was plenty good last year, and now has Micah Parsons.

Tonight will be interesting because you got Bear's Vikings tonight. And if the Bear's offense is good, Caleb Williams, Ben Johnson, then the chatter is going to ratchet up a bit about Detroit no longer having Ben Johnson.

But the packers bullying the Lions, to me, is still low on the list of biggest things in the league to talk about today. I'm including the Chiefs from three days ago in here. They stink.

The Sealers winning a game that they haven't been capable of in a couple of years, getting that performance from their quarterback, and that quarterback being Aaron Rodgers at his former team. That was really interesting to see because Aaron Rodgers was really good, and so was Justin Fields. We all assumed that game was going to be ugly. A get out of the stadium alive game.

It was the lowest total of the weekend, right?

37 and a half. No one expected offense from that game, and then all of a sudden you get offense. It was awesome. And both of those teams, you know their defenses are good. So if you're getting good offense, it's not because the defenses are suddenly bad.

And much like college football gets drowned out. Not a lot of John Matier conversation on this show because he looks like the real deal over at Oklahoma. But I think Friday's game was really interesting, really good. And while the Chiefs are expected to fix that offense without Rashi Rice being suspended early on in the and a shoulder dislocation for Xavier worthy. There's talk he may need surgery. He's going to be out for an extended period of time. Those are guys that take the deep shots downfield.

Are we sure the Chiefs are fixing the solvents?

I thought Justin Herbert also looked outstanding. The Chargers looked formidable.

Before the fourth quarter yesterday, the Harbaughs looked like they had the two best teams in the sport. In terms of just everything that you were watching and what they did to the Chiefs, how they did it to the Chiefs, we can assemble the argument, could we not, that right up until the end of that game yesterday, and now the thing falls a little bit on Harbaugh, even though Derrick Henry fumbled. The Ravens were, all of us saw this, correct? Going on the road, we're watching football, we're watching it from Eagles Cowboys. If you're saying Who was the best team in the sport? Until four minutes in last night's game, all of us are saying the Ravens, correct? Who looks like the best team in the sport? Okay, maybe packers, maybe Colts. Fair enough. But the The seismic nature of football returning, ending with that game played that way, that the photo that you have at the end of your football on American night is Josh Allen being carried off by his teammates because we're all watching, Hey, the MVP doesn't have enough. The Ravens are better, but they've got the MVP. And so now we're watching a unicorn and centaur run around in the backfield for the Bills, and the Ravens are better.

And we know the Ravens are better, and you can't expect Josh Allen always do that at the end of games. It's not a reasonable request.

Well, not in a Super Bowl, though.

It's not a reasonable request. Don't say, They've never won anything. They haven't even gotten to a Super Bowl. Look, Greg.

I mean, the The Ravens and the Bills suffer from the same malady, which is they're both great teams. They both have great quarterbacks. How about you win something?

We'll get to football in a second. Roy, why are you laughing?

Your head going into your hand.

I'm going to tell you why. Because I've done this for a long time. Greg Cody, look, print journalist, looks down on all of us, fans included. This room is still reeling. The room is still reeling from the number of times you hit both me and Zazlo in the face last segment with the wet fish of, If you read my column.

Yeah, right. Because my column was about the most vicious column I'm able to write. I don't want anyone to think that I'm letting the dolphins off lightly just because I say it's one game. It can be both. You can exhoriate the dolphins for a absolutely hapless, hopeless performance and still think, but it's only one game.

Yeah, but next week at home versus the Patriots. I mean, they are a slight favorite. You think that's a get-back-on-tract game, right? It better be. So that's one and one. Then you have at the Bills on Thursday night. No chance. Okay, so that's one and two. Then the new-look jet Justin Fields. No, I'm not going to let you do this, Billy.

Justin Fields. I'm not going to let you sneak one of these in there.

Justin Fields. Okay. All right. I'm just trying to figure out. That feels like it could be a loss, and you're staring down the bear of one and three if you beat the Patriots. You could be sitting at 0-4, and then the Panthers is a get back game.

They could go 0-17.

After the Panthers is the Chargers, the Chargers, Dan just said they look like one of the best things. That's the win. Then the Browns is anyone's guess. Is Flacko going to be healthy? We don't know. At Atlanta, then versus the Ravens, then the Bills again, commanders. You may be looking at the Saints. And the Saints honestly looked like they had a shot yesterday. Is that a win? I'm not sure.

I think I'm going to be in Atlanta for that game.

Really? Oh, wow. Stop the presses. Chris is going to Atlanta for that game. Why? If you want to see Chris, you might be there.

Dolphins, Falcons.

You were talking about the Saints.

This is the easiest part of the Dolphins schedule.

Didn't you say seven and What did you say, dad? What did you say?

No. What I said was the first eight games gave me-I'm not doing this anymore.

Get the Dolphins stink out of here. Look, I was mad yesterday at that Jags Carolina game and the weather because all of a sudden that scent is lingering into my four o'clock games. Get out of here with that game. Panthers, please end at 4: 00. Don't stay around. Don't be third quarter in the middle of my 4: 00 games. Enough with yours.

What was that? Was it like a weather delay or something?

Yes, weather delay. One of a couple of weather delays.

Scruing up my YouTube TV. It's like I had a nice four-game plan here.

Two things, though, locally that we did not get to that I did want to get to. One, Cam Ward's debut. He made a couple of the throws that you want made. And now after the game, there's been talked about, Well, Calvin Ridley, he doesn't have to put that much zip on it. He has to put less zip on the football. But Kam Ward made a couple of the throws that could have kept the Titans a little closer than the eight-point result looked like because the Titans were in that game. And Kam Ward looking competent in the first game out, I don't want people to take for granted a guy coming out in his first game just because we got used to fast forwarded learning curves on quarterbacks. And on the road at Denver with the team that everyone was talking about, Sean Payton and Bo Nicks. They turned the ball over a ton and still won by eight points. They turned the ball over. But Kam Ward's competence was encouraging if you're from Miami.

Yeah, and that was the prism. And it took me by surprise. I knew I was going to be pro-Kam Ward, but I was on the edge of my seat this entire game, demanding players to make a play for him. Look, it wasn't perfect by Kam Ward. Look, they didn't score touch downs.

He wasn't throwing the ball and completing it down the field.

I mean, receiver's got to make some plays for the guy, too. I do think that, especially on those seam routes, some touch could have been there. And the looped-y shit that you got away with with the best offensive line in college football last year, it's not going to be the same. But I would say that most people entering this season would have told you Denver is the best defense in the league. That is, historically, a really difficult place to play opening week at Mile High, especially when they have a defense like this. He was Tennessee's best player on offense. They got issues along that offensive line. He's got to help them out a little bit more. His receivers have to help him out a little bit more. But I thought that was very encouraging. I think he's going to be just fine.

But that's a low... I don't want to be the guy criticizing everything, but that's- Except the Dolphins. That's where you draw the line. When we say Kam Ward had a great game, it's based on low expectations, based on how good Denver's defense is.

For the record, no one said Kam Ward had a great game. They scored zero touch.

Just competent.

He was 12 for 28. He averaged four yards. How many drops? A lot of drops.

A lot of drops.

A lot of drops and a lot of plays just not made, especially on that last drive. Everybody was keeping an eye. Can Kam do this? Can Cameron do this with no timeouts? He had the ball way too many times on the opposing end to knock him away with points. He took those looped-y sacks. He's got to clean that up, and he will learn to clean it up. But I was encouraged by it.

On third and 10, driving on enemy territory with a one possession game, he made the throw, You need to throw to Calvin Ridley. And Calvin Ridley was pretty good at catching footballs. It had too much on it for Calvin Ridley. And it's a fair complaint if you watched any part of that game. Two things became obvious. One of the things that Mike's talking about, the loop-de-loop in the backfield, that's not going to happen anymore. So you either learn very quickly to move up and shoot through the center of your pocket and use your athleticism, or you don't. I think he'll learn it. It's one game. It's one game on the road under difficult circumstances. His team's not very good. That defense, everyone expects something from, and it has the defensive player of the year. He didn't make the mistakes that caused you the game. At the end of the game, he made the throw to Calvin Ridley that you have Calvin Ridley in order to make that catch at this point in his career.

I would say he did make some mistakes there that didn't help Tennessee win that game, but he was the best player that they had over there. Talking point from this game, if I may, who would you rather have going forward, Bo Nicks or Kim Wark?

Wow.

Either. Either of them.

Well, the thing that happens with that, though, is that people are pairing now Bo Nix and Sean Payton as if that's a magical sprinkle juice that you can throw on something, and it'll be better than all of the other teams. I don't believe that, but people are believing that because they saw a pretty quick jump, or what they think was a quick jump, from Denver last year. Again, that game somehow, to me, low on the list of games from yesterday. Can we, for just a moment, examine how the evening ended? Because it's an insanity for the Ravens, a team we all know to be good and one of the best franchises for the last 15 years, to again have a 90% win probability, up 15 all game, and obvious to the eye, better than any team in the sport that you've watched for the last three days.

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Dan Levatard. This is the Quickest It Goes. Hey, this is the Quickest It Goes. Stugatz. Everybody, this is the Quickest It Goes.

This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugatz.

Dan, I have a question. What is sprinkle juice?

That's a good question.

That is a good question.

How is Sprinkle Juice?

Yeah. Sounds good.

Are you watering? Is this watering something?

You got liquid on your hands.

You're just like, it's either juice or sprinkling. Or magic dust.

Are they sprinkles on ice cream?

Is it a liquid? It's magical the way Andrew Luck is magical riding his bicycle through your future.

It's great diversionary tactic. It's magical.

Show me again. It's magical sprinkle juice. The insanity of yesterday. You guys would agree to have it punctuated that way. To go from, Cowboys, Eagles, play the game they played. Chiefs Chargers play the game they played. The one o'clock games end with insanity happening. That was crazy. Aaron Rodgers and the Jets in the middle of all the games, one score, everything. Then you get to four o'clock, then you get to the night game, and the night game is better than any of it.

Can we play a new segment called A Moment of Truth? All right, so this is how a Moment of Truth works. So we come on here, and obviously, we're experts on every sport because we watch every game of every sport. So we know everything about every sport, every game of Every Sport, because that's what our profession is. So we come on and we talk about every game of every sport because we watch every game.

That's what being an expert is about.

Exactly. Every game of every sport. We have nothing else going on in our lives but to watch every second of every of every sport, college included, which is a tall task on Saturdays because there's a lot of college games. Rest assured, audience, we watched every second of every game of every sport. A moment of truth. I fell asleep with five minutes left in the game last night. I said, You know what? This game's over. I fell asleep. And that was my moment of truth.

Well, did you fall asleep or did you say, This game's over. I'm going to sleep?

It's a great question. I moved from the front part of my manner towards the back part of my manner dinner, and I was watching it in bed as my wife was doing, I don't know, preparations for the kids for tomorrow or whatever. I turned it on and I was laying down and I was watching. But I will, moment of truth, I was dozing a bit. I was dozing.

I think it's fair, Billy. I don't think you're allowed to be tired as a father from all the football.

I was dozing. Then my wife came in, and then I said, Is this a battle worth having, keeping the television on, knowing I'm probably going to fall asleep, or do I turn it off? At that point, glasses had come glasses were off. Glasses were off, so I was doing a lot of listening, and then I was seeing a lot of blurry colors running back and forth into each other, around each other, what have you. But it was blurry, and I was just listening. Took off the glasses, put them on the night stand in the manor, and my wife said, Are you still... I was like, I'm watching. I'm watching. I said, Are you sure? I said, No, this one's over. And I turned it off, and then I turned over. Man.

That was my moment of truth. I have two moments of truth. Oh, you got one. Two? Yeah, I got two. Yes, I sleep. I'm sorry. Number one, I didn't watch a single second of Cam Ward on Sunday. Number two, I did the exact same thing as Billy. There's four and a half minutes left. It's a 40 to 25 lead. I even remember thinking to myself, the Bills would have to score two touch downs and two extra points, whatever, and just no way.

Two-point conversion.

They missed two-point conversion prior, and I was like, Now this is too much.

And then so I trusted the Ravens.

I like this segment, a moment of truth, where it is that you didn't have enough to see everything that you're talking about, so you're blustering your way through it. This is where Stugatz's disagreements with Wilbon begin and end. I think Stugatz has more right than wrong in him on the Wilbon feud when he says Wilbon pretends like he's seen all the games because he talks as if he's seen all the games.

Anyone that's heard Mike Wilbon talk college football knows this. Moment of truth for me. I did dose off. I saw the comeback. I saw the big play, but I did learn this morning that Derek Henry fumbled because I was asleep there at that point.

I saw the end of the game. I saw it this morning. I was like, Crap, how did this happen? Now I need to go back and watch this. So I had to go back and watch it.

Billy, I think it's reasonable. I think it's reasonable. Put it on the poll. Truth, you fell asleep and called the game over last night with five minutes left. Yes or no? Because I think you're in the majority, not the minority. I think that's a reasonable, especially the way the Ravens looked all game. Under what circumstances are they getting stopped? Under what circumstances is Derek Henry fumbling? They've got a win probability that makes it so that they are somehow the only team that always gets in that position and the team that blows it in that position most often. It's not that. In the sport, it has happened eight times since 2021, where they've got a 90% win probability and they blow the game. No other team has had it happen six times.

I have a moment of truth. If I didn't have money on the game, I would have fell asleep.

Gambling.

But Roy got the bad beat. This has got to be the most common of the bad beats, right? This happened to me two or three times last season with Mahomes.

Yeah, I had two bets on the game. One of the bets were on the Ravens, Dirk Henry, anytime, countdown, Lamar Jackson, Over one and a half touch downs. That didn't hit. Derrick Henry, Russ, yards, and-Don't care about all your other bets.

Couldn't care less.

Yeah, well, that one, the one touch down didn't hit. That cost me $200.

Okay, again, don't care. Let's get to the interesting. The bad beat is the one- I don't know why you would think all your bets are interesting or why anybody would care.

Because I'm not talking to shows, so I'm talking.

Wait, did you have anything in the early window?

No, I don't care.

Why was your Saturday action?

I didn't have anything on Saturday.

Anything going on in Russian hockey or anything, we should be aware of? Not yet.

Hawkinson. Hawkinson is back in two weeks. I like the Hawkinson overs tonight. You want a tail?

Yeah, I think I got to get my money back. All right, cool.

So you're back over to Satz. That was good.

Yeah, so the bad beat was I had Josh Allen Over one and a half touch downs, over 231 and a half passing yards.

Any time touch downs or passing touch downs with that one and a half?

Any time touch downs.

Oh, that's crazy.

And he hit that. But over 34 and a half rushing yards. And that's what got me, because he knelt down three times. He lost five yards.

I'm sorry, pal.

That hurt.

What do you think JJ McCarthy is going to do tonight? Young quarterbacks say, Lean on the tight end. This is where I Like Hawkinson.

Chris Cody wants already JJ McCarthy over to her. He has bailed. The other local story that I did not get to in the local hour, and I should have because somehow it resonated across the entire pop culture sphere. It is so strange to me the moments like this that end up catching. A friend of mine mentioned this morning saying that after this scorn child at a Marlins game had a ball taken away from him, and you just saw from every camera angle possible, somehow, a woman behaving in a way that was so foul and so grotesque that the Internet recoiled, and the Marlins ran out and gave this child a basket full of gifts. They should have given this woman a car or something for bringing this much attention to the Marlins on a football Sunday, to bring this attention because this woman was terrible. The man, her A father, brings the child, his son, a baseball, and then the woman just takes it from him, berating him. Billy, why are you laughing?

I'm getting confused. This is what happened. A home run was hit by one of the Phillies, and then there were Philly fans there. A dad runs over, grabs the ball, gives it to his son. They're celebrating. Then this crazy woman goes by and starts screaming at him in his face. The man jumps backwards when she tapped him on the shoulder because he was taken aback. He was surprised by what was happening. Then she was yelling at him, That's my ball, that's my ball, or something like that. Then finally, this who was embracing his son, hugged him even because he was so loving of his son and so happy to share this moment, just says, You know what? Fine. Take it, and brushes her away, takes the ball out of his glove, and then gives it to this woman who people are calling Philly's Karen.

Thank you, Billy. That was very It was very good. You did it much better than us.

Then that's when things got interesting because then the camera saw it, and then this was going around on the interwebs, and people were getting very mad, which, by the way, they still have not found who this Philly's Karen, as they've named her, is. But the father has gone, and he's done interviews with his children, but we still don't know the identity of this Philly's Karen. But more videos have come out from different angles where there's people behind where you can hear her screaming at the child. Then there's another video from the top where people are booing this Philly's fan, and she's giving them the middle finger. Oh, yeah.

She's giving everyone around the middle finger while holding up the ball.

Yeah, she was a bit, some are saying, unhinged. I don't know exactly what was going on there, but the Marlins gave them all these goodies. Then after the game, he met the Philly's player that hit the home run, who signed a for him, and they all went out. You know what? I think the biggest trauma of all is that at the end of the day, they're still Philly's fans.

The guy did nothing wrong.

There's a lot of soft energy there with that guy, though.

Well, wait a minute. Says the father whose teenage son calls him Sugar Tids.

Okay, but when it came down to it, I beat his ass. I'm still a man of the house. What are you implying the guy should have done there?

Let's talk this out.

Stand on business is what jazz is saying.

I will tell you a couple of things he should have done.

Okay, all right. Well, we'll get to that in a second because everyone's doing this one, too, today. How meek of that man to feel in today's America. He doesn't have quite a lot of options here on optics as he's being berated for taking a baseball from someone who believes, and everyone believes as she does it, that's been wronged. Then when we have 40 different camera angles, everyone realizes, Wait a minute, this woman's just being... She's just romping all over the arena, grabbing baseballs and making up stories, and everyone sees It's her unmask, and it's the way this thing ends up going viral because everyone, no matter your political leaning, is appalled by the behavior of this woman. Everyone.

If she has a kid with her, maybe I'll give her a little leeway. But no, there's no kid with her. He doesn't rip it out of her hand. It's a Scrum. The ball's on the ground.

It's not even in her row. It's actually in his row. Exactly.

But what options does he have there? I know a lot of people are examining-Not give her the ball.

Yeah. Not give her the ball.

Get out of my face.

The ball was in my His son's mitt.

Not give her the ball. I like, though. I would have done what he did. Just like, Okay, you want this? Is that important to you? Go ahead. I think he played it perfectly.

Not me.

She tried to grab him.

What are you going to do, Zazlo? She did grab him.

That's assault.

It's not about what I'm going to do. It's what I'm not going to do. And that's take the ball out of my son's mint and give it to her. That's definitely what I'm not doing.

Okay.

Brett Cody is for sure not giving up the ball.

Hell, no.

That's for sure.

She She was not entitled to the ball, based on what I saw.

Look, the way that I'm looking at that, and forgive me- She's seen plenty entitled. I don't have kids, okay? But I'm looking at a father in the middle of that who is embarrassed that he's in the middle of a scene that was just lovely for him a second ago because he was bringing his child a ball, and now he's in the middle of being yelled at by somebody. And while all of you, I get it, in retrospect, Oh, he looked meek, or, Oh, come on, buck up. I understand how he might want that whole commotion to get away from his son because already what was a beautiful moment has been ruined. And now also we're going to emasculate him today because, Hey, dad, we would have done it better. We would have never given him the ball. Okay, I get it. I understand how it is. All of us would arrive at armchair quarterbacking, even that one.

Dolphins played fine, but that guy should have done it differently.

But that woman, everyone is pouncing on her because everyone sees, Oh, you put dad in a bad spot and you ruin that kid's feel good.

And you didn't I have a kid with you. The balls are for the kids. It's just like, if there's a rule of baseball, you give a ball to the kid.

I was thinking to myself, or after the game or after that happened, that woman right there, she looks like she's probably in her 50, so she probably has a son or a daughter, for that matter. And that son or daughter is seeing these replays. I'm like, Oh, my God.

Mom, what are you doing? I don't know what... Look, again, I'm not a parent, but what do you want to show your child in that moment? And today, that child wins, correct? Totally. That kid wins. I I don't know if you want any of this attention around any of it, right? Because I don't know any of you. I don't think if you're dad, if you're her, or if you're the kid, you actually want the attention that ends up coming from this. You might want the gifts, but I don't know about how you guys feel about it. But this incessant energy of people need to argue about everything on the internet and then things on the internet becoming real to a woman like this who's now going to be shamed pretty provocatively by people who are mean, who will come at her for their variety of reasons that just turns all of this into an avatar where sports spills into politics.

But you know what? With the woman, it wasn't... Yes, she is being shamed, and it's going to continue being shamed for her. But it wasn't even like she reacted poorly in a moment in an instance. It was so much carrying on. It was the whole yelling to get the ball, and then it was all the interactions afterward. It was a whole thing with this woman. It wasn't even just like in a split second, I behaved poorly.

I think it's pretty easy to determine what the guy should have done. If I'm in the middle of that Scrum going for the ball, as the guy who walked away with the ball, if I realized, you know what? She had the ball and I took it out of her hand, then I'm probably going to give it back. If I have every bit as much entitlement to that ball, if not more, as she does, I'm going to turn around on her and say, Get out of my face. You did not get that ball. I got that ball.

Don Levatard.

Don Oh, yes, Captain Slappy.

Stugats. Is this Chumbucket?

This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugatz. According to the timesofindia. Com, there are two women who have now come out and denied being Philly's Karen. One of the rumors had a school district denying that they employed said Philly's Karen, that that person person is not an employee of theirs, and they had not fired said employee because rumors were going around that Philly's Karen had lost her job in the school system, which I think some of us, I don't know if we can all agree, I think some of us would agree that's probably a bit much, firing a person over this incident.

This is what social media and the internet do, right? It's as if she robbed a bank. It's as if there's grainy footage of this woman running out of a bank with two big bags of money.

Just so that you understand what this public shaming just does to people. Her life will feel ruined to her. We can say it's not, but her life will feel ruined to her for however long this lasts. We can dismiss that and say that that's a silly thing to think. But in your football Sunday for this to make a LiveWire appearance on, Oh, let's all hate this person together. That feels good. Shaming her for what is clearly bad behavior. I know it shows no perspective to say her life will be ruined, but it'll feel that way to her.

Yeah, but she It's brought on herself. The sheer entitlement.

Well, that's what everyone is going to say. Insane behavior. That is correct. It is insane behavior.

I feel like if you behave that way, you probably don't look back in the video and think like, Oh, I was wrong. I feel ashamed of this. I feel like you probably are surrounded by people who are like mine are like, Minor. Yeah, that's your ball. You didn't do anything wrong.

That's what I'm saying. It wasn't a singular second where she behaved poorly. It was so much carrying on. I don't think this woman looks back and says, Wow, I regret this.

You do see Sometimes where there are fights over balls and stuff like that, where then the peer pressure round just... The guy, for instance, just gave her the ball because it's like, Maybe I was wrong. I'll give her the ball, right? Where fans are booing whatever, and then the person's like, You know what? You're right. And they go and they give the ball back. But this person then went and was giving people the middle finger, was egging on the crowd. So clearly, she did not think she was in the wrong at all.

I don't want to go too much further today. Forgive me for this because I'm sure we will be enveloped throughout the show all football things.

You're thinking Dolphins at Jets, December seventh. We didn't get to that. Yeah, we haven't quite gotten to that. That one might be a trap game. After that, it's at Stealers. So it could be a look ahead trap game. And then the Bangles. Hosting the Bangles in December.

This might be the softer part of their schedule. Saint Jets, Stealers, Bangles.

What do you think? What is the cornerback? Bangles looked gettable yesterday.

Joe Burrow against those cornerbacks.

Is that one and three? I mean, you mentioned the Bengles. I don't know on the list of goats. How do we spell... Can anyone here spell the name of the Browns kicker? It's got a Y, a Z, and a K in it, and one vowel, and I don't know how to say it or spell it.

Misd it.

Misd it. I don't think that's correct. I don't know. Can any of you spell it? Because if- S-M-Y-Z-T. Put it on the poll at Levitard show, Would any jury convict today Miles Garrett, who almost had three sacs on three straight plays and a safety on one of them, if he strangled Misd it with his bare hands? Just with his bare hands, if he just... I'm not saying that it ends in death. I'm just saying that if we had video today of Miles Garrett choking his kicker by the throat, and again, no harm done. It's just bad optics. All of us would say, yes, of course, we understand. Everybody understands. Put that off to the side. Put bangles in another slow start and browns off to the side. Because also this weekend, something that I thought bears noting in tennis, and I think Greg Cody both We were both there in Keybiscayne when it was announced to everyone at a 21-year-old Jokowitch was going to be somebody who challenged Federer and Nadal. He had not won majors yet then, but it was just clear to everyone in the sport. Not that he would be this because no one could have imagined him being 24 grand slams.

No one could have imagined that. But with top Federer and Nadal, I don't want the football weekend to blow out the fact that after losing at the US Open, After 17 years of dominance, he just said, Yeah, after five sets, I can't beat those two guys. They are now too good. You do not hear somebody at his level of greatness just bow down and say, No, they're better now. It's obvious when you're still out there expecting him sometimes to win, but it's also obvious the young guys are going to have more stamina, five sets, than someone who's that age. He's going to age the way a tennis player must, not the way Aaron Rodgers all of a sudden did on Sunday.

Even in the big three era, though, when you had Federer, Jokowitch, Nadal doing their thing, you had Vovrenka be feisty. You had Andy Murray come out for a brief moment in time. It was a big four. I'm watching the last few slams, and I'm like, Man, I miss having a third guy in the mix because there is a wide gulf in the ATP ranks right now. Those two guys are really, really good. When the third guy is Jokowitch at the end of his career, you don't really have a third guy at this point.

You guys are with me, though. That level of greatness never says that out loud when it's still the third best player in the world.

I thought it was refreshing. I really did. I give Jokowitch credit for doing that. Federer, retired. Nadal is fading fast. Jokowitch is the last of the big three.

Nadal's done. Nadal's retired.

Yeah. Okay. Isn't he still playing that game?

No, he's famously retired. Okay.

Jokowitch is the last man standing. Why are you going to say it like that?

Because of how stubborn Greg is. He's not going to concede the point. He's just not going to concede the point.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

But stubbornly and not immediately. If you're wrong, you're wrong, stubbornly and not immediately.

We had a bunch of emotional goodbyes to him.

There were a lot of emotional goodbyes. Yeah, you may be right.

I may be crazy.

I'm not saying.

For me, the story is not so much the ATP ranks because ATP is... There's always been a consistent final in the ATP for the last 25 years. On the WTA side, Serena spoiled us and ruined that sport because you see a lot of challengers come and go at that sport. For Savilenka to have an extended period of run here where she's taking the slams, making the finals while Coco is still inconsistent at this part of the career, I thought Savilenka's consistency is the story and also Oaxaca's dream comeback, falling just short. But the WTA was more interesting than the ATP said. And honestly, pretty disappointing tournament on the whole. Not a lot of shock results in that tournament. It was a bummer.

You say not a lot of shock results. I'm telling you, though, that I know it's a small morsel, but it was shocking to me. Federer Nadal never ceded the space to him that way, vocally just saying, These guys are now better than me. My time is done. I'm not used to that level of greatness, conceding. They never know. They always think they're going to come back. For him to say after 17 years of whatever that's done to his body, where he runs off, again, go read about Nadal's foot problems. He's going to be walking with pain for the rest of his life because he finished third among these two. I don't know what Federer's body is going to feel like because he's a robot who never shows you any emotion. But even at the end, he wasn't saying, Jokowitch is going to take my shit.

No, but it sunset his career. He skipped a lot of tournaments, and he wasn't really up for fight once Jokowitch finally hit his form, in part because Jokowitch hit his form.

Happy birthday today to one of the best doing it in football. I can't wait to see what it is that she has to say about yesterday's results. Happy birthday to Mina Kine. Happy birthday to her.

I don't care.

Good luck. Let's talk for a second about Stealers Jets and the ending of that game. Jalen Ramsey as part of Win Now, Stealers, signaling to in that game in that stadium to the Jets. Here's what the quarterback looks like when he's a part of a good organization. We all know what he looked like when he was a part of a bad organization. All of a sudden today, and this is some weird miracle that we're talking about Josh Allen, instead of the four-time MVP of the league looked like somebody who can win a game on the road against the Jets in a way that he did not look like last season when the Jets had him throwing the ball nine yards at a time. I have to be gasbag of the week and thinking that the Steelers were going to play football like Ben Rothlisberger played at the end. It's all seven-yard slants from here. And you can do that with D. K. Metcalf. But D. K. Metcalf will also get you four catches for 80 yards. And the Jets didn't have a whole lot of that, even with Garrett Wilson last year. To have the Jets lose that way, where the win-now stealers of We're an Organization, Run Right, give you Jalen Ramsey at the end, taking out your best player.

Garrett Wilson is the one you gave all the money at the end of that game. He loses it at the end because they asked him to make a play, and Jalen Ramsey took it from him. That's what Jalen Ramsey is. That's why he's there. And he won the game at the end. That's an entrance that gets you the love in Pittsburgh, where you create hope for a franchise because wait a minute, the four-time MVP is going to look like four touch downs, no interceptions, throwing the ball down the field. On a defense we know to be good, that's going to be our offense. We haven't had that offense here since Rothsberger was taking us to the Super Bowl. We didn't have that offense here when Rothsberger was in the last three or four years of his career and running around back there like a skyscraper with legs.

Can I give Is there a counterpoint on the Steelers and Aaron Rodgers? They needed Aaron Rodgers to go 22 of 30 for 244 yards in a countdown to barely beat the Jets and score 17 points in the fourth quarter.

We had four touch downs.

Yeah, Four touch downs. They had to score 17 points in the fourth quarter just to beat the Jets. He's not going to do that every week.

It's the Jets. I know, but he did it on the road against the defense we think is good. Good defense. And he was feeling himself after the game. He spoke about the meeting with Aaron Glenn on McAfee a few months ago. Beating him, is there significance in that? Since he basically told you to your face that he didn't think you were right for that team. Yes, that's what he did. So there's significance in beating him for I was happy to meet everybody associated with the Jets. He didn't have a game that looked like that all of last year. It was the lowest total on the board. People were expecting under 37 and a half, and it wasn't. He did it to a good defense, and he did it playing offense that was not constipated. You don't have a lot more that could have felt better than that if you're a Steelers fan. It's exactly what they wanted this offseason to get Mike Tomlin, to get people away from him they can win a game like that in the playoffs. They can out shoot you even if you have a good defense.