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Do you think that you guys could put together a top 5 list of top 5 oddest things that Zaslow has never done? Because it consistently comes up around here where we are talking about whatever and Zaslow pipes in with, "I've never had a soda," or, "I've never had an Almond Joy," or this morning, "I've never worn a robe." No.

I mean, I, I travel a lot, especially during football season. I'm on the road every weekend, and that robe's like in the hotel room. I've never worn it.

It's tough to top last week's revelation of the Zaslow men have never created a girl in over 100 years.

See if you can put together a top 5 list, but because Zaslow clearly, uh, has not had corrected yet the fact that he has some sort of Disney account that gives him and shouldn't give him giant suites on the road when he travels. Of course he's getting rooms that have robes in them. Not all the rooms have robes in them, but generally the suites do have some robes in them.

Shitty rooms have robes. They're shittier robes, but they have them.

I'm pretty sure every hotel room in the closet has robes hanging.

No.

Yes. I mean, Dan, when's the last time you were in a crappy hotel?

You only go in suites.

Crappy hotels.

Put it on the poll at Lebatard Show. You're just wrong though. You've got the robe.

I'm the everyman, dude. No, but I'm in all these crappy rooms.

The robe— Everybody be careful. We're not starting off like this. Someone support me. The robe is exclusive to hotels that cost more than $250. They're not in— you can't get robes in all of the hotel rooms. The robes are a luxury. They're not in every hotel. I can't— now maybe you guys are making a distinction between hotels and motels. What is a Days Inn?

I'm not staying in a motel. What do you think a motel is?

Uh, what do I think a motel is? Yes, I think of it as something smaller near the airport that's much cheaper than a hotel.

No, motel, the doors face outward.

Yeah, motel is when you step out of your room and you're outside.

Sometimes they'll leave the light on for you.

How are you guys doing the definition of a motel that you feel is different than my definition of motel? Schitt's Creek.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around your definition of a hotel that doesn't have robes.

You guys have all hotels having robes?

If it's a hotel, it has a robe. Yeah, maybe I'm with you, like the crappy motels, maybe not.

Dan, I hate to do this to you, but Chris is more right than you here.

Put it on the poll. You don't hate to do it to me. You've enjoyed doing it for the last several years.

No, no, no, because I can tell by the tone, like, and no one's supporting you, you feel like we're ganging up on you. And trust me, I wish I could support you here, but this one you're just flat out wrong. Every hotel has robes.

Put it on the poll at Le Batard Show. Uh, do all hotels have robes? Yes or no. Uh, we will see what the audience decides on this.

See what AI says.

Is, uh, are you, uh, somebody— do you believe you have something more shocking than Pablo saying he's never chewed gum?

Do you think that's even believable?

Well, but some of the stuff with you— you— I put it on the poll. What's more shocking, Pablo's never chewed gum or Zaslo's never had a soda?

I think all of us through this, through this show should try to think of The wackiest thing that we've never done, all of us, because I don't think any of us are going to beat Pablo, to Dan's point.

That's a—

never chewed gum.

His breath is just bad sometimes and he doesn't do anything about it.

I've never blown a bubble.

You can brush your teeth instead of chewing gum to freshen up your breath. You can do—

brush his teeth in the middle of the office, like, sorry guys.

Uh, yeah, you can brush your teeth anywhere, I suppose. I don't think it has to be in the front of— I don't think it has to be in the middle of the— in the middle of the office.

He's trying to make deals, he's trying to find information out, he's at a deli, you know, 43rd Street, and then he's like, hold on guys, I need to brush my teeth in this deli.

Many hotels, especially smaller or budget-friendly ones, do not provide robes.

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Chris Cody said after seeing this this morning, Chris Cody said, this isn't going to surprise any of you, but I look terrible in a robe. You do have some color palette issues that make it so that you wouldn't look so terrible if it weren't always a white terry cloth robe you're wearing.

It's just one of those things you do. You go to a hotel room, you get out of the shower, you're like, why not? Let's put it on. And then you walk by that floor-to-ceiling mirror and you're—

I'm just like, ooh. Uh, Zaslow, as someone who's never worn a robe, uh, do you even understand the principles of the robe? Like, do you understand why the robe is popular? And, uh, especially after, for example, showers, if you're still, uh, a little damp and you want to be a little bit warmer.

I know. I don't even know what the robe is for. It doesn't make sense to me. Like, why would I put it on after the shower? That's not drying myself up. I'd be dripping everywhere.

Well, no, you're not— you're not drying yourself with the robes. He's soaking wet and he puts the robe on.

That's why I don't do it. It makes sense.

So you're always staring at the robe or seeing or noticing the robe.

Yeah, I'm just like, that's not for me.

You're just— you're just never tempted by, I'd like to not be wearing any clothes right now except for just sort of draping this blanket, this terrycloth blanket over my shoulder?

I mean, I can only I can't even imagine, I come out of the bathroom, you know, maybe I'm with, you know, like next month, next month I'm taking my wife, we're going on a weekend to New York City. That's right, Manhattan. I can't even imagine that I'll come out of the bathroom and I'll just be wearing a robe. I mean—

You have to now.

You should try it now just to shock her.

Without telling her.

Yes, for sure.

You don't do that.

No, now he needs to do it. And if you don't mind, this is going to ask you to make some content while you're doing this. I just need the audio of whatever her reaction is. I need you to secretly, when you emerge from the shower wearing only a robe, I'd like to hear what her reaction is.

You have him wearing a wire with his wife?

What are you, fed?

What is she gonna hit him?

Baby!

And I'm just dripping everywhere?

Again, Zazzlo, you dry off, Zazzlo. The robe is not a towel. It just, if you're damp getting out of the shower, a little bit damp after drying off less well, you can throw on the robe and it will absorb some of the water for you.

And what happens? Is there like a belt kind of deal where I tie it around me?

Yes.

All right, so let's, uh, let's make sure to do that.

Like something I'm against. All right, I'll do it.

Yeah, I think you might come around on the robe. I think you're not, uh, you're not enjoying some of life's, uh, uh, that's one of the finer things. No, it's just a simpler luxury. It's a nice, it's a nice little luxury, I would say. Okay, uh, Chris Cody, which robe do you believe that you would look worse in, a white one or a red one? Like a silk, a red— Roy, why are you being disgusted by the sight of Chris in a red silk robe?

No, it's not just Chris, it's just a red robe. It's just unseemly.

Thank you. For me, I'd go red. White on— I don't do white. Never.

Red is meant to shock you. It's, it's how they made Will Ferrell's character a little bit more gross in Old School with the nunchucks.

Did, uh, did the character in Boogie Nights that was wandering around, uh, his home with the, uh, servant who was—

oh, Afra Molina—

who was throwing Snap N Pops on the floor. Was that a red robe? Was it—

what a scene.

It was a great scene.

They're so high on coke.

Yeah, they are. So the Dolphins yesterday, and I want to talk about this because I've told you guys, never in the history of a fairly historic franchise have they fumigated the building the way that they have now. But I believe they're about to field the most faceless Dolphin team. There's ever been. Faceless for a couple of different reasons. Uh, I can make the argument that Achan is the only player that anyone who pays to watch this team, uh, would have an emotional connection to, but he's extra faceless himself because nobody knows him. His interviews are terrible. He doesn't, uh, he doesn't talk much and doesn't have much to say when he talks. So you legitimately have your best known player— if it's not Malik Willis, I think it's got to be Achan— your best known player, nobody in your fan base actually knows him. It's not a personality type that anyone has a connection to. They got, uh, they've made him the third highest paid running back. So their best player is at the most disposable position. He's just reset the, the market because, uh, Jahmyr Gibbs and, uh, Bijan Robinson are about to get paid because of what Achan just did to reset market a little bit.

Doesn't have a lot of guaranteed money in it, and I don't care very much about the numbers, but I did want to talk to you guys a little bit about the idea. You thought that the Dolphins franchise, all of you, were lying when they said that he's not going to be traded. They tried to soothe everyone as soon as they got rid of Waddle by leaking to the insiders, hey, Achan's not going anywhere. Don't worry, we're going to keep Achan. What did you make of this signing? I like it.

I do. I like it. You know, you have to have some players on the team. You have to pay some guys. There is a salary cap. There's a salary floor. It's not like it prevents them from doing anything. And look, I know there's— they're gonna be bad. And, you know, and you could take the school of thought where what's the point in keeping him when if your team's not going to be good for maybe another few years? Well, we know the lifespan on these running backs. He's not gonna be good by then either. Maybe they believe he's one of those running backs like a Saquon Barkley who is gonna be good for 8, 9, 10 years. So if you believe that he's one of those dynamic guys, then yeah, you want to keep him. And all right, in a few years you'll be good and you got a good player on the team.

Not only that, it's pretty team-friendly deal when you look at it. You're like, it's not a ton of guaranteed money, only under $40 million guaranteed. You can move on later on in the, uh, in the contract. But you look at what Jeremiah Love just got for being a top 4 pick like, got $53 million guaranteed without playing a single snap in the NFL.

Can I push back on fans wanting their player to be interesting though in interviews? Like, what has Derrick Henry ever said?

Oh no, no, no, no.

Fantasy, we love you.

No, no, no, he was huge that one time against Billy, which was funny. Hold on a second. I'm not, uh, saying what you said I said. What I'm saying is fans don't actually feel like they know him. I'm guessing that Derrick Henry fans feel like they know. Fans of the teams who watch him interviewed.

Is that because he's recognizable?

Well, but that too. But I'm saying that whatever the personality type is that you assign to— you felt like you knew Tua, whether you liked him or you didn't like him. You felt like you knew the player. I don't know whether you felt like you knew Waddle. You felt like you knew Tyreek Hill. I felt like I knew— and he played at the University of Miami— knew Jaylen Phillips. Seeler. I know what some of these guys—

still there.

Yeah. What some of these guys are, I feel like I know them. Achan, they don't let him be interviewed very much. He doesn't interview well. And so you legitimately have now money tied up and basically the only known name you have, you have it in a player. I'm talking about the emotional connections that people make. I— when I talk about sports, okay, And I tell you guys, it's the emotion business. The thing that you have to guard against in your customer base is indifference. You just want them to feel something, even if they're mad, even if they hate guys. You want them to have a feeling. The worst feeling is indifference, and you need to have some sort of human connection that goes beyond the uniform so that you feel like you've got an emotional investment in rooting for somebody that's not just a regional bias.

I just— I look at Davon Achane and I'm like, I think you might be the best running back in football. I'm connected to you. I feel emotionally attached to you.

Yeah, I'm going to harken back to my experience as a recovering Browns fan. Nick Chubb is as stoic as it gets, and I would take a bullet for Nick Chubb to this day. He's one of my favorite football players of all time. Don't recall a single word that he said. Famous for being quiet.

I think I may have actually left out the part that I think is most important and why I like this contract for Davon Achane. They, they don't have any receivers right now. They have to have someone who could give you some kind of glimpse if Malik Willis is worth anything. And so having a dynamic playmaker right there— I know he's not a wide receiver, catch a lot of passes— you, you have to have somebody who allows you to look at the quarterback and determine if he's any good.

They're going to be a running team. They're going to build it around making sure that Malik Willis is protected with a lot of, uh, ability to run around him. I think you guys are missing my point though. You mentioned Nick Chubb, that's fine. You had Miles Garrett. You've got other guys. It's not just one stoic guy that you admire and you like his running style, but it's the only guy that you have any connection to, and there's not much of a connection. It is really rare for an NFL team to put in front of its fan base a team that has no singular emotional connection to anyone on the field. To any of the customers. It's just not normal.

So you're asking, who— is there a player on the Dolphins going into this season that is recognized?

There's not.

You're asking—

no, a connection, an emotional connection. You want to wear their jersey. Kids are going to grow up with the poster on the wall, if kids are still doing that.

I just think overall Dolphin fans are in on a rebuild, and that's what they're doing here. They got rid of all the guys you're talking about that they had connections to. I'm with you, you're not wrong. There's nobody here that you have a real connection to But I think I'm, as a Dolphins fan, I'm kind of just good with a reset.

I think you probably wish at this point, and what will be going into his third year, that Chop Robinson could have been that guy. As, because look, he plays a cool position, he's supposed to get a lot of sacks, he's got a cool name, Chop Robinson, but like he hasn't really done anything. Like that would be a guy that you, that could have been someone you recognize.

It's another part of the frustration I think from Dolphins fans locally when they pass up on Reuben Bain, because Reuben Bain immediately becomes the biggest star on the team.

Oh yeah.

That's the reason, or one of the reasons, I was making the argument on behalf of Bain. But I do think that you guys, and I get how it happens, it's a normal thing to happen when you're in the industry. I think the child in you guys is the child sports fan is a little bit gone. Favorite players matter. Like, that's a, that's a thing that allows you to sell your franchise.

There's also a weird disconnect here because you have zero fantasy football brain. Achan is nationally famous.

He's a monster.

He's going to be a top 3 pick. Guys in group chats are going to be texting about 8chan the entire summer.

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I don't know why you assume that I don't know that A-chan is somebody who's become famous because to a bunch of people in America, he's an assortment of numbers that pay on Sunday.

You know, he's a top 3 pick.

You know about that fantasy football?

You know, he's a top 3 pick.

When would you take him?

I am fully aware that fantasy has distorted fandom in a way that makes these connections matter less than they have because the human beings are numbers and only numbers to a whole bunch of fans. Usually, though, when I'm talking about one of the most reputable brands of any kind inside or outside of sports in a market it has a star. And while I'm not complaining about it, I'm simply pointing out to you how rare it is for the money to be invested in a guy who nobody knows and nobody has any connection to. Nobody knows meaningfully. I don't mean that nobody knows his name. Plenty of people know A'Chan's name. Uh, plenty more know nothing about who he actually is.

But there's been plenty of stars that wear a Dolphins uniform and it all kind of ends the same. So it's like you look you look at Tyreek Hill, you look at Tua, you look at Waddle, you look at the litany of guys that have come before that, and the only thing that everybody cares about is how can you get a rebuild now to be better for the future, right? It doesn't matter you had Tyreek Hill, he was the best wide receiver for 5 years, and now he broke his leg and he's gone. It doesn't really matter.

Going into this season, players who are on the team, what's the jersey we'll see the most at a Dolphins game?

It's got to be Achan. I mean, it's going to be Achan or Willis. It's going to be—

Willis will be up there too.

Yeah, it's going to be the quarterback or the running back. Uh, I saw a story earlier this week. Did you guys see any details reported on this. It was a super weird story where Le'Veon Moss ends up signing a 3-year contract as a running back out of Texas Tech with the Dolphins and retires the next day without ever playing it down. I don't know how much that contract was worth. Is it about a quarter million dollars a year? It was a 3-year contract.

He got, uh, $250 million guaranteed and then retired. Yeah, sorry, yeah, that would be crazy.

Great team friendly.

$250,000, a quarter million dollars guaranteed, retired the very next day. And it's something that we're seeing across the league, and I don't know how it's allowed. I don't know how it's allowed. We're seeing more of it, and I don't know— this seems to be like a post-NIL world where you have guys that enter the league that have made some money. Lavion Moss made a lot of money over at Texas A&M, and he came in. He did battle through some injuries last year. He came in, decided, uh, not for me. Let me take this quarter million dollars and peace out.

So you guys are saying that that guarantee is guaranteed, but Brandon Aiyuk's isn't? Uh, the franchise could take Brandon Aiyuk's money, uh, when he doesn't adhere to certain things that are tied to the guarantee. But you're saying you've read enough about this to know that this player went into the signing knowing he was going to retire and just signed his name so he could run out the back door of the facility with a quarter million dollars?

He doesn't have to give it back.

That's just what he's saying.

No way.

I don't know. I have not—

I do know he's not getting that money. I don't know.

I don't know. He signed a He signed a fully— a partially guaranteed contract in which he got $280,000— $258,000. $258,000 guaranteed. I'm struggling here, just move on.

It's, uh, it is— I don't—

no one has the answer for it.

I don't have the answer. I was just asking the question, and it's very fun. I think I can announce to all, it's very fun to have the question, not have the answer, try and get the answer from others, listen to them be wrong, and and then feel self-satisfied because they got it wrong, even though you asked the question without knowing what the answer—

Brother, that's been this show.

But it's a weird story. Uh, the brother was unnecessary. Uh, I don't know why you're Hulk Hogan all of a sudden.

Because that's my emotional reaction.

It's just not me.

Feels like it's the show.

So Moss, uh, it's a weird story that a guy would— the way that— I like the way that you framed it, actually. He goes in the facility knowing he's going to sucker the Dolphins. He's the only one who knows he's going to retire. Retire the next day and he gets his guaranteed money because the signature guarantees the money. I don't know if that's true. I wish for it to be true.

Walks in, Halfley, Sullivan, sup babe, I'm gonna hit the head.

For the sake of accuracy, it was 4 days after that he retired, but it's possible he waited the 4 days because he wanted the money to clear into his bank accounts.

It's been going around and I haven't seen a single tweet that's like, the team's getting some of this money back.

There's no way he's keeping the money.

It seems weird, but this is a thing that is happening more in the league.

So you say there's no way.

No way.

But a guarantee— look, I don't know how you define guarantee. I don't know how you define it, but the way I define guarantee is the moment that you sign that, you get that money and there's no one who can take it away from you. Take all the angles, then you can laugh at anyone that tries to answer.

He never started the job. The job never started.

He was in the building.

He's guaranteed the money when the job begins. He never started the job.

I think it's a signing bonus, though. I think it's a guaranteed signing bonus. And I was confused when the 49ers— I thought that would have to go to court. I thought there would be all sorts of union litigation involved there where the union, even though it's got a bad client that is representing, would still fight for the rights of a guarantee. To my way of thinking in sports is strict definition literal. It's guaranteed. There is no taking that away from you. And furthermore, you just heard Tony say it, because Jeremiah Love signed a monster contract with no proof that he's going to be great. You don't have the proof. We can all assume it, but you don't have proof. He has not played it down and he's getting off the top a contract that guarantees him more than the Super Bowl MVP is getting guaranteed for going to Kansas City when he would be a coveted free agent. Kenneth Walker's not making as much as Jeremiah Love, and, uh, that's how I've always done the definitions on guaranteed.

I'll read this to you here. In the NFL, guaranteed money, including signing bonuses, is generally conditional on a player participating He never participated.

Well, he participated in signing the contract.

Enough to be in the building, be like, checks cleared? All right, perfect. Jeremiah Love is not only making more guaranteed money than MVP of the Super Bowl, he's making more money guaranteed than Kenneth Walker's entire salary.

Yeah, Kenneth Walker signs for $45 million, some of it not guaranteed, and you can't guarantee the entirety of some of these contracts, though they're guaranteeing more than they ever have because of how violent and dangerous the sport is and how often it injures the employees. Guarantees. That's the reason that the guarantees aren't bigger. Can we get to the sound here though? I want to get— Dwyane Wade is again on a podcast and he is telling Heat fans— oh wow, Tony is waving his hand at Dwyane Wade.

Was that the Greg Cody?

It wasn't the back of the hand, it was the front of the hand. He waved him off with the front of the hand the way that you would swat a fly away from your face or a bee. He's just—

what was this guy got to say? He owns a piece of the And he's going to come over here and talk about Heat fans saying Heat fans be paid.

I'm not going to—

I'm not going to—

I mean, let him say it.

I'm not going to spoil what he says. I'm just upset.

All right, let him say it first and then be upset.

Okay, brother.

Man, listen, Pat, Andy, Mickey, they gonna do what they gonna do. Nick, they don't listen. If they see an opportunity, I know they will.

They're gonna strike, bro. That's what they do. But they're not just gonna strike because you as a fan is impatient and you want them to strike.

They've been in the finals 7 times. Since I was drafted.

They're fine, bro. You're right.

But we want them to strike.

We want Bam.

We want these guys to get the help that we feel like they need to be able to compete in the East, because you see it open, you see opportunity, right?

You see opportunity.

But dude, they not striking for no reason just because we— you want them to.

Not even we, you. I'm impatient. Zazz, what are your thoughts there as, uh, as Tony waves off the most popular player in Heat history?

I mean, I, I I'm— Dwyane Wade could certainly say whatever he wants. If he feels that way, totally fine. I'm not gonna sit here and tell you, Dwyane Wade, you can't say that. No, he can say that. I don't have to agree, and I don't agree. I think it's okay to have a standard as a franchise and, and realize now that this is actually— since Pat Riley joined the Miami Heat, we are right now more years, the most years without winning a championship ever. Like, Pat Riley won a championship 11 years after he got to the franchise. They have not won a championship now in 13 years. So this is officially the biggest drought in the history of the franchise since Riley's been here. It's okay to have a standard where this is not acceptable, but Dwyane Wade can feel that way. That's fine. I essentially agree with Dwyane Wade. Like, I, I don't want Andy Ellisburg to leave. I don't want Pat Riley to leave. I like this front office. I do believe in them, but it's okay to be critical.

I agree, but I know the key is under the mat and the whole thing, but like, you turned your back on us. Whoa, you're, you're a Jazz man now.

You have—

you, you own a piece of the Jazz. You're not a Miami Heat guy. You can't tell us, hey, they're gonna do this and that. I'm just saying, he's chosen his line in the sand and he's over on the other side, not on our side.

You're right, he's not a Miami Heat guy, he's the Miami Heat guy, you fool.

Oh, uh, he'd be a partial owner of the Miami Heat if the Miami Heat had offered him partial ownership. He had to go— he to go take it.

Also true, that's not a small note.

That's not his fault, that's the across the street's fault.

Yeah, it is, but you're right, it's not his fault, you just said it.

Okay, but then he went over and did something else. He could have bought another team, he could have been in football, he could have been in baseball, he could have been somewhere else, but he chose basketball to be with the Jazz of all people.

Come on, you are really being disrespectful. You can't talk about the—

can't talk about the Heat fans.

If we would have handpicked a team for him to be a part owner of, that we would have been like, oh, that doesn't It would be the Jazz.

I think you're right.

If it was the Knicks, I'd be like, okay, this stinks. I forgot he was with the Jazz.

I don't even know that he knows he's with the Jazz. When's the last time you heard him say something, say anything about the Utah Jazz? Don Libertard.

Yeah, it's not my favorite region.

Context needs to be applied.

I was going for a joke and—

I thought the context was applied.

We, uh, we'd like to rip that out of context. I was going for a thing and—

You're gonna—

I have a family.

You're gonna pretend here that you don't love Matthew Kachuk more than you love anybody you've ever loved?

I don't love Matthew Tkachuk more than my daughter. Stugatz! Now it's pretty damn close.

This is the Don Levatar Show with the Stugatz!

Can you look up for me please whether this is the longest drought of Pat Riley's entire career? He did not win in New York, although he is celebrated for coming as close as he did in New York, where it was viewed as a success. But the last few years here are viewed as a failure.

Oh, well, no, no, not the longest.

He, he was in New York and he got very close to the championship. He won in '88 in L.A., played in a Game 7 against Elijah Juan, and John Starks went 2 for 18 from the field. And he's still haunted by that fact that he never pulled John Starks. He kept trusting him. But the longest stretch—

18 years—

Pat Riley's career has been 18 years without a a title. Uh, I want to get to, uh, the sound here because I saw that 20-plus years in, LeBron James is still having the big story written about him that lists his incredibly minor grievances as if they matter. So the big, uh, note that was taken from the Dave McMenamin, uh, long story on LeBron— McMenamin had another story on LeBron where he interviewed him 8 times in 8 cities and sort of did a tour of the entire year of basketball with LeBron. But in this story, LeBron James is evidently reportedly upset because after a victory in which Luka didn't play, and I think Austin Reeves didn't play either in the victory that we're talking about after knocking off Houston, Jeanie Buss came in and gave the game ball, uh, to JJ Redick, uh, or Polenka, excuse me, gave the game ball to, uh, JJ Redick. And I think it was because it was JJ Redick's 100th, uh, win. And it is being reported that LeBron James didn't like that as part of a larger story, which I thought was interesting, about how the Lakers and LeBron need each other more than either side realizes.

So coincidentally, that night was not only JJ Redick's 100th career victory, but it was also the night that LeBron James surpassed Kareem Abdul-Jabbar as the all-time winningest individual player. And here's actually the video, Dan. The Lakers obviously recorded this moment in the locker room after the game of of JJ Redick getting the game ball that night.

Tonight, but we gotta roll the video first.

Hi Dad, congrats on your 100th win. Uh, I'm very proud of you. I love you. Go Lakers! Happy 100th win, Dad. You're a great dad and a great coach, and I love you so much. Go Lakers!

JJ to come in the league and get back-to-back 50-win seasons first 2 years as a coach puts you in elite, elite category.

Like, Dan, you know, I got no problem being critical of LeBron. So apparently LeBron was upset about that, that JJ Redick got the credit, got the game ball. I, I, I got a hard time believing that LeBron's upset about that. I really to.

Well, I gotta be— I believed it though. I believe the reporting. Well, I don't think Dave McMenamin is going to risk any sort of, uh, damage to his relationship with LeBron by reporting things that aren't true about LeBron. And this makes LeBron look bad. So if you're going to report something, it better be accurate. Also, there aren't a lot of places that could come from other than LeBron, by the way. There aren't a lot of sources on that that would give you the accurate information because it's such a small, silly thing to be upset about. There was a bigger A generous back pat in the middle of that. That was very loud. I'm always distracted the first time I see Palenka because of how much he looks like Rob Lowe. And also, if I were LeBron James, I'd also be bothered by the fact we're celebrating the guy on the sideline a little too much given what he does around.

I wanted a video of Bronny at a pool being like, good job, Dad, good career. You're a good basketball player. I love you.

Does it change things that I think I can tell that LeBron's voice is one of the voices going, hey, yeah, good job.

It's different though. It's an indifferent. It's a manufactured A. Right, right.

I'm enthusiastic about this.

Dan's right on this. I think it's a sarcastic A.

It is. We're going to listen to the whole thing again, including listen closely for the vigorous back slap, because there is a back slap in there that's too loud and is the kind of thing that you say to somebody when you're like, babe, I'm hitting the head.

We got one more accolade tonight, but we gotta roll the video first.

Hi, Dad. Congrats on your 100th win. Win. I'm very proud of you. I love you. Go Lakers!

Woo-hoo!

Happy 100th win, Dad. You're a great dad and a great coach, and I love you so much. Go Lakers!

To come in the league and get back-to-back 50-win seasons, first 2 years as a coach, puts you in elite, elite category.

Our coach! Get her! I think Redick was uncomfortable with the way that went and his entire body language because he used to be a player and he knows how little they respect the coaches sometimes and how bothered the players get when the coach is getting all sorts of credit for motivating them as if they're all infants because they can't do it themselves. There is an underlying tension in most locker rooms that has a little bit of that in it. This guy pushing me around doesn't play anymore and is getting a disproportionate amount of the credit just because he's the middle manager.

He has 100 wins. I say it's not like 1,000, 100.

It's 3 good whacks. But it's— that's Redick doing it to Rob Lowe, not Rob Lowe doing it to him.

Correct.

Correct.

And it's because of his discomfort. No, it's—

it's—

I think I hear 4.

No.

Yeah, 4.

4. Excellent correction. This is why you're a rising leader in the industry right there. Your attention to detail in this— in this artificial intelligence time where you can't tell where anything's true. Chris Cody is there.

That sounds—

4 feels vindictive. I'm gonna try 3.

That's nice.

That's sincere. Oh, too much.

Yeah, yucky.

The 4th one was not good.

I sensed Reddick's discomfort there. He did it a little extra hard. It wasn't because he was vigorously happy, it's because he wanted to parachute out of the situation. You think I have that wrong, Zaslo? Because it seemed like he was uncomfortable. He was visually red. He turned as red as Greg Cody— as Chris Cody in a red bathrobe.

No, I think you're right about Redick not being interested in this that's happening right now. But again, I'm, I'm a little bit surprised that I'm the only one who has a heart— like, everything LeBron has experienced in his career, he's been on the Lakers for 8 years now. It's the longest single stretch that he's played for any team in his entire career, and we're still doing the thing where like, you don't appreciate me? I don't know, I thought LeBron was above that.

I always marveled at how some of the giants of the industry can be sensitive in unusual places. What are you laughing about?

Did I say something stupid?

You thought LeBron was above that? He's— we've known him for 20-plus years. This is always—

that's his thing.

It's his thing.

Game ball.

It's his thing. Being petty is— it's his thing.

I think I just caught something else here. There's a— what sounds like a sarcastic, our coach. Is this LeBron here?

Listen to this. No.

Okay, if it was though.

Yeah, that's hoochie mara.

But if it was—

sounded sarcastic.

It did sound sarcastic. Uh, a couple weeks ago we were talking about the legendary Eric Gregg game. For those of you who do not know, what a night. Eric Gregg gift-wrapped a World Series appearance for the Marlins against a really good pitching staff of the Atlanta Braves by giving a strike zone that included both batter's boxes and allowed Levon Hernandez to have 15 strikeouts in a game. Uh, here's Charles Johnson on Talking with Tashay. Uh, Talking with Tashay. You know what, I don't want to play it anymore.

You're also not allowed to say what a night when it was famously a day game.

Uh, did I say what a night? Uh, that was, uh, Zaslo. Let's check in with Charles Johnson.

Like, ah, what a night, even though the sun was shining bright.

It was a very bright game, and Eric Gregg was hot and wanted to get out of there. It's part of the reason he wanted to get into to whatever it is was happening after the game. Here's Charles Johnson talking about the strike zone in that game. The craziest game I think I've ever been a part of. I can remember because LeVon didn't speak hardly no English.

Okay.

I don't speak Spanish. Right. And so I'm sitting there and the first inning starts and I'm like, okay, the outside corner looks very liberal. Like, I mean, he's really giving a lot outside, huh? And I came in the dugout and I say, LeVon, away, away, away, away. We staying away, everything. No inside. We going away, away. And I was like, comprende? He was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we went out there every inning and I kept getting further and further outside. He kept calling more pitches outside and I just couldn't believe it. It was times where I was getting ready to throw it back to Levon.

He called right.

He think it's a ball. And what shocked me too is that I saw this video where that, you know, somebody put the little strike zone box.

Yeah.

In there. And it really showed how far the ball was really outside because back then, right, they didn't have that little box. You could really see the box, but now you can see it.

And I'm like, whoa.

Yeah, it was crazy.

I have a couple of questions. Number one, I obviously remember the game very well. I was 16 years old. But what I don't remember is, was Costas— like, would Costas acknowledge how ridiculous the strike zone was throughout the game?

I can't answer the question for you because I wasn't watching it on television. I was there. My mouth was hanging open as I was watching what it is that was happening. And what I remember about Charles Johnson specifically, he's the guy in the casino who knows the slot machine's broken and is looking around. He's looking around like somebody come get it. Is anyone going to notice that this thing is giving me more money than it's supposed to be?

Such a great admission of him. Like, oh, I was, I was throwing it back and like, strike three. Oh, Okay.

The second question that I have is Jeremy was a year old when CJ was catching that game. That's weird that Jeremy's the one talking about that game when he was a year old.

You know what's weird?

The socks.

Yeah, what's going on there?

Long white socks with the black pants.

I figured those pants are flooding.

Everyone says Jeremy's stylish, so we might— this might be stylish and we're just out on this.

This show, I wouldn't say, uh, should be critiquing anyone's style as a show, as one show voice. We probably shouldn't be critiquing anyone's style, but he looks goofy. Well, that's the opposite of what I just said, uh, but, uh, Jeremy's got sort of resting goofy face.

Wow, that was way meaner than anything we had said prior to.

I'm just repeating— I'm repeating— what is it meaner?

I just said White Sox.

I'm repeating his insult. It doesn't— I don't get to be meaner because I'm a parrot because I'm just repeating what it is that he said. It's not my word.

That's really Messed up.

It's Chris Cody's word. Did Messi have a hat trick last night? Yes or no?

It was taken away. It was. Yeah. I mean, he, he was responsible for 3 goals. I don't know if you— Inter Miami is a blast to watch because there is zero defense being played. You know what both teams to score yes was on the line? -350.

Wow.

It's rare where you see a line like that, but 8 goals. They're still giving money away when it comes to the overs. When it comes to Inter Miami games, it's insane.

What do you mean they took away his hat trick, but he was responsible for 3 goals. It's one or the other.

Well, one of his goals went off the face of a keeper. Uh, there was a collision between— it was bad. It was a bad MLS moment. Uh, that'll be made— the league will be made fun of for one of the goals there. One of them was credited as an own goal. It took a deflection, but he, he made it happen. He was unbelievable again. He's still a top 10 player in the world, and they were trying trailing. Yes, they were trailing. They, they trailed a couple of times in that game. And Cincinnati is a very difficult place to play. Not as difficult, apparently, as playing at home for Inter Miami, because 22 of their 25 points this season have come on the road. They cannot win at home, but on the road they put in performances like that where they just have this extra, extra gear. And the extra gear is Messi, right? He is, he is a one-man gang right now. It is painful to watch Suárez try to run down the pitch. You can tell his knees do not work.

You say he's a one-man gang right now, but he's been that for the entirety of his career. And I am not yet immune to being amazed at 38-year-old people still being best in the world at sports.