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This is the Dan Levatore show with the Stugats podcast.
Yo, where's Dan? For real? Where's Dan at? It's Monday. There's a lot going on here. I'm not like him to... Wait, what's going on here? What's going on here?
Good morning, class. I'm your substitute teacher, Mr. Alhassen. Mr. Levatard will be out today. We're going to be watching a movie. Let's go.
There you go. Let's go.
That's what I'm talking about.
Easy day today. Can we have class outside?
You bring in the tray with the TV. It was usually the TV-VCR combo, right? That you knew today was going to be a good day.
Huddle up. We're watching Stand and Deliver.
I was going to say, what is the movie you associate Ruki of the Year?
Oh, Stand and Deliver, for sure. I don't know what that is. Edward James Almost.
What about stand by me.
How does he reach these kids?
Unfortunately, the TV doesn't seem to be working. I forgot that you need power. Oh, boo.
Boo. He's student-led study.
We'll be having class instead. Let's start locally. Here in Miami, the general manager of the Miami Dolphins, Chris Greer, had a mutual parting of ways with the organization on Friday. We got to a little bit of it on the show on Friday, but Zazlo wasn't in class.
I watched on the plane. I watched the Zoom coverage of class on the plane on Friday. Any notes? No, no. Keep it all right up here, baby.
I remember. I'd like you to share with the class.
Well, I mean, you guys, you did a little preview of the hurricanes and that deal. Mike Ryan was not here because he was in Dallas, all right? He did a recap of the Dolphins from the night before. Tua with a pathetic pregame speech. My goodness. 60 minutes, give me 4 hours. So what fuzzy math is that? And of course, the news comes about Chris Greer getting fired right after you guys went off live. So I didn't get to hear you guys talk about it at all.
It's a little weird that he gets fired, and then this morning, they trade Jalen Phillips. Why is that weird? Well, I would think that you would reserve all franchise altering moves for whoever is going to get the job.
Well, no. See, you got to remember Trade Dead Lines tomorrow. And I think part of the main reason that you fired Chris Greer on Friday was because you don't want Chris Greer to be allowed to make any self-preservation type moves before the deadline. You can't expect him to make moves that are going to be great for the future of the franchise when it's pretty clear he very well might be fired. So, yeah, you got to get rid of him and allow somebody, anybody else, to make moves for the future of the franchise. And that's clearly a directive right now.
At this point, you just got to get what you can for everybody, right? Knowing that the trade deadline is tomorrow. They're saying that they're only going to take first rounders and plus plus for Jalen Wadda. And I'm like, Anything that they send you is looking like a good deal.
I'll I was surprised. I asked Diana a week or two ago when she was on what would be a good deal for the Dolphins to consider for Jalen Waddo, and she was like, Maybe they can get a fourth?
It was reported yesterday on NFL Network that they are going for a first.
That's wild. I don't know who would give up.
I'm sure they're going for it. Right. He's not going for it, though.
They probably went for a first for Jalen Phillips, too. It didn't work out like that. You had to trade Phillips, though. I don't know. Are Dolphins fans mad? You think that they traded Jalen Phillips? Because you were going to have to give him a contract. He's always hurt, and he's the king of almost making a play. He never actually makes the play. He leaves the league in almost sacks. It seemed like such an obvious trade for me. Where he's got a beeline to the quarterback, and he leaps, and the quarterback throws it. Like the Herb at the end of the Chargers game really sums up his Dolphins career.
It's a Keynes thing. You just don't understand.
Look how sad Mike Ryan is. Look how sad he is.
Man, I wish. I wanted to come in here talking to all types of shit.
You can't say anything.
Now, I'm just like, It's a dumb sport anyway.
It's a very dumb sport.
You're very much... I have the impression, because I don't know you two. I'm getting to know you. You seem like an all right guy. I'm getting the impression you're the type of friend you love to talk shit about your friend who is suffering because of something that happened in sports.
Isn't that everyone here?
See, I don't do that. I don't like that. It doesn't make me feel- Are you above that? No, it's not about being above it. It's about like, I don't know, I feel bad for my friend when he's down like that. I derive joy from kicking him when he's down.
The only grace you get is if your team is bad and then they lose. But when your team is good and they lose, oh, my God, the nectar of the God.
That's the good stuff. You like that Mike Ryan is upset. Granted, I wanted the Canes to win, too, obviously, but I don't take joy in my friends being really angry.
I'll be honest, in this particular case, not so much because I was really looking forward to Whooping his ass and Charlotte. I had this whole fantasy of me and Mike, I'm going to be in Charlotte. I'll be in my Georgia Tech gear. He'll be in this Miami gear and all this. Then at the end, I'd be laughing and Mike would be sad. Now SMU has stolen that sadness. They've stolen that sadness, the ability to deliver that sadness. From me, I'm going to file grand larceny charges against Southern Methodist University. Not very Methodist of them, if you ask me. Stealing?
I think I'm in the minority in that regard, though, that I don't send the text messages taunting my friend who is hurting because his team lost. I do acknowledge I think I'm in the minority there.
I don't send tech messages. I just make montages of the things that they said before, which will be ready later in the show.
Good start from you today.
Thank you. We're not talking World Series? Yeah. Can we honestly? We'll get there.
We will. It was so good. It was good. No, not good.
It was good?
It was a lot better than you thought. One of the best baseball games.
Let me just say it.
That was such a great baseball game.
Let me just say it right now.
Let me just say it right now.
Can we all agree my man was safe?
Which man? At home? No.
He was not safe.
He was not safe.
The foot came off the plate and then it got back right before.
You know what a millisecond is?
I like his perspective, though. Let's talk about it for three hours.
What we needed was a low angle. Behind the plate, low angle, so I could see the daylight between the catcher's foot and the plate.
It was a clear replay.
I don't know how clear. He's starting to sway me.
Angles, angles, baby. Camera angles. They could show you any, they could trick you anyway. But if you get the right angle, that's what we needed a three-dimensional. We needed right behind the plate at ground level, right here. Show me daylight between his foot. We had it. So you needed the angle that proved that he was safe? Yeah, pretty much.
Okay. Video team, let's spend a half hour trying to find this angle. They don't have it.
No one has it. You know why? Convenience. Do you guys know that when a team that plays in Canada is in the World Series or in the finals, did you know that the ratings count as zero?
You sound like the people of Canada.
I'm just saying, I don't know if you guys are aware of this, when the Raptors played the Warriors in the finals, the ratings on the Toronto side, on the Canada side was zero. They don't count. The ratings over here count. It was one of the lowest rated finals as a result because you only got half the audience.
But it was probably a monster number in Canada. Sure.
But what's a monster number in Canada?
I think I saw that the World Series the other day got a 20 in Canada. That's right. Which seems like a really big number.
That's five people, six tops.
What? Adnan talked about it, that if you projected it from Canada to here in the United States, it would be close to about half of Super Bowl numbers. So it's like 350 million or something like that.
This is playing with numbers. You see, Adnan, part of the media, they want you to play with these numbers. Hey, proportion, of course, and he's also in the media, so that makes him a double agent. So you talk about, Oh, if you do the proportions, you do the proportions. Yeah, there's 17 people in Canada. If 8 Watts, all of a sudden, that's 50%, that's the equivalent of 200 million people. No, man.
Canada is so much bigger than the United States, right?
You know the population is so much smaller.
But I understand. That's what I said.
I don't care if Saskatchewan All of Saskatchewan watched it. They don't count. There are more people in this room, and I'm not even talking about the shipping container. Then there are in Saskatchewan. You can put it.
It's a Saskatchewan expert?
I mean, you know how it's- Yeah, put it on my bio.
And so this has something to do with the World Series being one of the greatest games ever played, but not being one of the greatest games ever played because of this play.
It's a great game. See, this is a bad angle. Too high. How's it a bad angle? Too high. How can I see the daylight?
They have other angles, too.
Where's the ball? The ball's not in his mid either. Yes, it is. No, they look at the daylight. You see the daylight?
What are you talking about?
The angle. You guys don't understand what I'm saying.
No, from this angle- The spikes on the toe are down. Honestly, so obvious.
If we were lower, if we were ground level, we'd see that from this angle, it looks like I'm my laptop, but if you go like this, oh, no, he's not.
It's because it's an above angle. You can't really tell if there's contact or not. I can't believe you guys are fighting me on this.
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Don Levatard. John Zaslow, how you love that catchphrase. Bad news for opposing teams in the Triple-A. Stugatz. These are smiles till the broads are clutch again, clutch again, clutch again.
This This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugats.
What happened in that game, Mike?
What happened in the... Look, Miami. Look, they pulled everybody, Miami, this year. Miami this year. You guys got to suffer that indignity, too, because this felt like a special season. Miami looked a certain way. And then the same thing happened. That's happened really the last four years is Miami has its tendencies. They put up enough film. Teams know what to expect. Miami doesn't really adjust the adjustment. Also, there's this weird haze of when they meet adversity, they don't meet the moment. They look for any excuse to get out of it. Now, they still should have survived that game. Unfortunately, I'm not going to be a 40-year-old man complaining about the official, but that was a strange game.
What does your age have to do with it?
Well, you reach a certain age where you don't want to be like, The ref's a cheated guy. But you put it in their hands. You got to make catches. You got to be disciplined. I don't know why this center keeps playing. He very clearly cannot adhere to the rules of the game. Really a huge bummer. It felt like a special season. We know that when Miami meets its ceiling and plays clean football, they can hang with anybody in the nation. Yeah, it just sucks. It felt like at least a college football playoff team. Now, a month is an eternity in that sport. They have no chance of done it. Yeah, well, do they Look, man, Alabama got blown out by a really mid-Oklahoma team, and twelve days later, everybody was saying how if they were in the playoff, they'd win the national championship. A month is an eternity, and you have the weird situation where they have a win over Notre Dame. Notre Dame is cruising right now. The committee is going to want to put Notre Dame in, but Miami's head-to-head matters. I don't think the season is necessarily over. And quite honestly, I really am curious to see how this team responds because Mario Cristobal is a big culture, discipline, toughness guy, and the team is not reflecting that.
I thought we had the locker room right, so they need to respond.
Let me ask you this question. You said they didn't make the adjustments to the adjustments, which seems to be a thing. I'm a basketball guy. When I hear that, I think of Mike Bunholzer, who really good coach, smart coach, but it's philosophically opposed in general to making adjustments because he's like, If we do what we're supposed to do, it doesn't matter what they do. That's his way. Is Mario Cristobal, or is Mario Cristobal just not good at making adjustments?
It seems like both. In a weird way, it seems like both.
Honestly, the offense was doing outside runs. We were doing creative stuff with Malikai Tony. I do think that there is a conservative approach. Now, you may see the interception, which, by the way, was Malikai Tony's fault at the end. You have a guy that's been so locked in with Carson Beck. He was supposed to flatten out that route. But I thought Carson Beck actually played well. He was pretty accurate with the ball, and he made some big plays. There were some unfortunate penalties that called some big plays back. But the ACC comes for us all. I mean, the ACC comes for us all.
Mike, I can't help but notice you're doing a press conference thing where I ask you a question.
I'm hugely bummed. I'm hugely bummed. I haven't been this hurt by a team. Even last year, we blew a 21-0 game at Syracuse.
Yeah, but this team was better than last year's team.
You knew that last year was a deeply flawed team, and you were just like, Let's get into shootouts with Kam Ward and get into the playoff and get to Charlotte.
No, you felt like this team could do something.
Yeah, you felt like this could be a special season. Now, you do have an opportunity to win back-to-back 10-win seasons and show the nation that you can be a consistent winner. I do think that that's important. I do think that watching how this team responds under Mario Cristobal is hugely important for the future of the program. But you can't help but feel like, Man, that That is such a bummer because we wasted an opportunity there.
Acc is only going to get one team.
You would think, given the reputation, which Miami has got to look good. Miami has got to perform. We can have that conversation in a month from now. Like I said, November is a wild month in this sport. Four weeks is an eternity. I do think that Miami will be back on that bubble conversation because they were in the bubble conversation last year. If they meet that resume that they had last year with a better defense and signature wins under their belt that they didn't have last year with the added complexity of Notre Dame being in that conversation and them having a head-to-head win over Notre Dame, I do think that there's more hope than it feels right now. But right now, you got a real problem, and it seems to be intangible because it comes down to discipline and how you meet adversity, and they get Fs across the board.
I guess I would just add, last year, yes, they didn't qualify for the ACC title game last year either. Did they finish third in the ACC before that game? Were they the first team out?
Yeah, it was screwy. Because right now, they're seventh. No, they have no shot at Charlotte this year.
No, I'm not talking about a shot of going to Charlotte. I'm talking about, will the committee look at them as a team to give an at-large bid? They didn't last year when they were third in the ACC.
They did look at them last year. The conversation was South Carolina, Alabama, Miami.
I mean, they didn't put them in. Right now, they're seventh. They're not going to vote in the seventh best team in the ACC.
You're going to have teams that have three losses in the SEC that they're going to be dying to put in. And I do think that there will be an interesting conversation.
And they're going to be dying to put Notre Dame in.
Well, that'll be interesting to see how that... The head-to-head has to matter. It has to. I think it would be pretty BS if it didn't.
How much does the head-to-head matter when the game literally happened at the start of the season?
The head-to It has to matter.
But it's never mattered at the start of the season. That's been the thing for every team when it comes to the playoff is you judge the team based off who they've been.
Yeah, you're a different team at the end of the season than the north start of the season.
We can have that conversation four weeks from now. They're probably going to lose another four-year game because they're so undisciplined. It seems like a ridiculous conversation right now when you got the most emo goddamn team looking for any excuse to give up.
What were you most angry about in the end? If you had to pinpoint one thing.
The penalties. You look at that box score, you're wondering how the hell you lost that game. Smu ran for 23 yards. Most of that was in overtime. I was really disappointed that they seemed to quit after the interception. I was disappointed that they still have this conservative approach to not trust in the quarterback. Korsenbeck is going to throw interceptions. You got to live with that. You got to let the guy go. But really, it's the penalty. We gave up 100 yards in penalties. Now, I think Tim Reynolds pointed out that that crew has That crew has done a couple of Miami games, and Miami has been called for 21 penalties, and their opponents have been called for six.
Do fans of other schools and other conferences complain about their officials? Everybody does. But the way that the ACC fan complaints about ACC officials.
Acc officials are bad. Ruben Bain gets held all the time. On that illegal man downfield, this wasn't even a conversation because the camera's sitting and catching. Malikai Tony straight up got tackled. He straight up got speared, tackled while he's Running a route. Not a conversation. They pick up the flag on the DPI on Keelam Marian.
Are you mad about the fourth down rough in the passer? That was bullshit.
I am. That was bullshit. That was bullshit. That was bullshit. That was bullshit. That was bullshit. About the rough in the passer. Lightfoot holds him up. Come on, that is not the spirit of the law. That was BS. Miami could have survived that game and taken the lessons from it.
I like the officials to understand the situation in that spot.
But ultimately, you had an opportunity to control that game. You blew it and you put it in the official's hands and you deserve to lose that.
Why are you making a face?
Look, I understand why people are super happy, but- No, but look at me.
He's making a face.
We got a bunch of people over here.
Come on, bro.
The zebras, bro.
What are we doing? Plus a second game. Again, another ACC loss. I mean, that's what this program does. You lose in conference games and you don't make it to Charlotte, and then you don't make it to the playoff because that's what Miami is. What happened to UCF this weekend? The UCF nights don't exist. The UCF Citronauts exist. They're undefeated. They're 8-0 in the history of their program.
What?
Space Week. Ucf got beaten 30 to three.
Yeah, bad program right now.
I'm not going to do that. It doesn't matter. I honestly don't think. We didn't have any expectations. No, everything- You have a championship expectation. Everything that Jeremy said was true. I think that this season feels especially disappointed. It's a byproduct of how this program got our hopes up. There's a lot of people with egg on their face. A lot of the smartest people that cover this sport all thought Miami was for real, and they folded. It's really sucky that over the last two years, when this team loses, they lose inside the margins in one-score games, and there's always a player or two that could change a season, and it's just not breaking their way. Quite honestly, the lack of discipline when you have a disciplinarian head coach that drills that all week in practice, and yet you still play the same guys that keep making the same mistakes, there's got to be accountability there. He's got to show something.
I got to say for the audio audience, you all can't see this.
No, I'm devastated, It's not just devastated.
You are doing textbook press conference behavior. You haven't made eye contact with anybody or even a camera about that entire soliloquy, although you are looking around as if you are looking at different people to talk to, but none of them are ever the camera, and none of them are any of us.
I'm bummed. I haven't been able to shake it. It's a crushing loss.
That's the other thing about college sports that fascinates me. Is there any other sport in the world where ultimately the Championship or who competes for the Championship is decided by a committee that says, not you. When you think about it, it's incredibly weird. Every level of sport in the world, in the world, we all go, we compete, and then, okay, those guys are the winners.
I do think it's really ridiculous, and it boggles the mind for someone to speak like they know what's going to happen four weeks from now in this sport. Sure. I mean, the CFP took so many twists and turns in the final two weeks last season.
That's you trying to make it sound like the Canes still have a shot here.
I think if they put up four straight weeks of playing clean football and having a 10-win season, we'll find ourselves in the exact same debate that we had last year with a much better hand with a Miami team that's lost two games by one score.
On the outside, looking in.
We'll see, Jeremy. But for the meantime, shut the fuck up.
Marking it. I'm going to put Everything Jeremy said was right in the love.
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Don Levatard. If Daniel Day-Lewis did it, you'd be jerking off all over yourself. Oh, come on.
Yeah, I would be. Aggressive description.
I mean, what is that? I'm just saying. You know what? That's me.
You're just saying what? That's me. That was something Bruce did yesterday. I see that photo of Daniel Day-Lewis looking like Lincoln before he's about to start filming Lincoln. You know what I do? I mean, I jerk off all over myself. That's what I do. Lincoln, who you outed the other day. Don't make this a rejoin. This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugats.
Okay, so going back to the Dolphins. You guys are telling me this is fire sale time now. Everything must go 80% liquidation.
It's an every man for himself situation right now.
Yeah. Like I said, trading away Jalen Phillips was an obvious move. You can't possibly pay him. It had been so stupid. All right, so there you go. The next one they move on as well is Bradley Chubb. There may be someone there. Bradley Chubb's best days are behind him. All right.
If Philly's got a third, what does Bradley get you?
Fourth, maybe.
If that?
Because you also got to understand Bradley Chubb makes some money. So fourth, maybe. If someone wants Matthew Judon, come get him. I mean, the Dolphins picked him up off the street at the beginning of the year. I would trade all three of the pass rushers there. Is there anyone else like- Minka, maybe. Well, yeah, they're definitely not You would assume they're not going to keep Minka. It doesn't make sense to give him a contract extension. You keep Paul. Paul, you got to keep.
All right. H-in, you keep.
You build around Paul.
I think you probably keep Jalen Waddle, too. You do have to have some good players on offense moving forward. I think you do probably keep Jalen Waddo, even though he's clearly not a number one wide receiver. But I think the pass rushers, the pass rushers are going to be the guys that teams in a winning situation are going to want to... It's like training for a relief pitcher at the MLB deadline. Every team is going to want a relief pitcher. Every pitcher, every team is going to want a pass rusher.
Unless you're the Dodgers because you don't need one, apparently, and you only need to throw your starters to win game seven. The guy who started game six, Yamamoto. Amazing. You guys want to hear from Big Mac on the firing of Chris Greer? He's been out on Chris Greer.
He's our guy from downstairs. I just want to make sure the audience knows.
But we get his takes on the Dolphins, and he's not a Chris Greer guy. Big Max, take of the day.
Oh, yeah. We got British the Joker, Next is Batman and Robin, and you know who that is. Mike McDaniel, that's two of them.
Big Max, take of the day.
That's a very well-crafted take, man.
I love him. I love him just…
Batman and Robin.
He goes, And you know who that is? And then I keep walking and he's like, It's Tua and McDaniel. Yeah, it was done.
Just in case. No, that's a good take, man, because some of the listeners are like, Wait, who's Batman and Robin? And then he breaks it down for you. You know who that is?
It's Tua and McDaniel. The reports out there really make it sound like Steven Ross may tell the new GM that he wants to keep Mike McDaniel after this year.
That's something we were talking about earlier.
It really sounds like that.
This month, it was like, why don't you just keep him, have the new GM build players around the system that worked a couple of years ago, right? You scored 70, you had the best offense, two or three for a thousand trillion yards. It works given the right players in the system. Now, the problem is, did all the NFL defenses figure it out, and now the system doesn't work?
Where's Ryan Tannehill? He never got hired. At home, yeah. He's like, I'm too good for this backup. And then just never... He's just chilling, right? Yeah. Now he's like 40. Back in a beer, is he? I think he's like 40. Ryan Tannehill, man. That dude's old.
Flacko's 40.
How about Flacko this weekend? Look, I know they lost.
That arm is live.
Sprained. A sprain throwing shoulder. He said, Give me 400 in the air.
Tanne Hill is 37 years old.
That's close. He's knocking on 40's door. You hear that? That's 40. That's 40's door, actually. That's Tanne Hill at the door. I messed that one up.
Notnot getting on 40's door.
It is.
There you go. Best musical impression for the Sueies. Good teammate.
Thank you. I feel like this is all tied to a weird all chips in mentality on tour. Someone who has never shown the consistency in terms of health or anything else to say, You can go all in on me. That's the part that I keep going back to, how they managed all of this from the beginning. From the very first time he had that concussion and that season was magical, and then it was ruined. They never said, Hey, we need to start building this thing with the eye that he may not be around. If he's around, it's awesome. He's around and he's good. It's awesome. But if not, we have contingency plans of winning games, whether that's with a competent backup quarterback, whether that's with others' facets of the game. They never did that. It was always like, If two is out, we're screwed. If two is not two, we're screwed.
Yeah, but I would add, how many teams in the league have a competent backup quarterback? This is every team. When your starter gets hurt, you're completely screwed. No one's like, All right, nice. We got a good backup. He'll come in and win us some games.
No one has that. No, but it's not about win us some games. It's not about, Oh, this keeps humming. It's that shit doesn't fall apart completely the moment we have a backup in there. You could say, How many teams have a guy who could come in and win games? How many guys are going to do the Matt Castle, 12 wins or whatever? Sure, that's a rarity. But in terms of, can we just not completely fall apart? I don't think you're right when you say, We look at San Francisco, right? It's not that Mac Jones is amazing. Oh, my God, how did we not know? It's that he's competent enough so that this thing doesn't fall apart while purries out.
Well, it seems that the coach had a system that was specifically designed for this quarterback.
That's what I'm saying, contingency plans, because The system designed for this quarterback is cool, but if this quarterback was someone with a little bit more durability.
I'll tell you what bothers me, though. There's several things that we're reading right now, where McDaniel, it seems like he's going He may stick around after this year. He's clearly not being fired during the season. He may stick around after this year. Fight through, buddy. Give me a second. Thank you very much. I apologize.
Take all the time you need, man.
The second part. I lost my train of thought now. Okay.
No, I love You're on it. You're on it. You're on it. Daniel. Let's help him find it.
Grab that rope. Help me. It's dangling. It's right in front of him. Tell me.
Saying that it's dangling doesn't help me regain my thought.
It was something about Tua.
Oh, yeah. The other thing I'm hearing, though.
Why don't you start your point from the start.
Okay, the first First thing you're hearing is it seems like Mike McDaniel may still be the coach after this year. The second thing you're hearing right now is that Tua, it's going to be incredibly hard to get rid of him. I can't do another year with these guys, with McDaniel and Tua. How does a general manager... You're telling me whatever general manager they wind up hiring is going to come in here because you'd like to believe that the new guy... Hey, do you like this coach? Do you want to keep him? I'm giving you the opportunity. Do you like this quarterback? Do you want to keep him? I'm giving you the opportunity. You're telling me that whatever general manager comes in is going to be like, Yeah, of all my options in the world, I like what I've seen from Mike McDaniel. I'm keeping him. And of all the options moving forward, I like what's going on with Tua. I'm going to keep him as well.
You like a guy who is durable at the quarterback position who gets rid of the ball quick, who can do all the little things in a smart way, who doesn't throw interceptions because McDaniel schemes you open. How about Steven Ross? Bring in a new GM, gets him to trade to a, gets Tom braided out of retirement, and now braided to the Dolphins finally happens. He's not doing great at the broadcaster thing. You get that off of everyone's mind. You get him back down here in Miami as the New England Patriots are emerging and the Buffalo Bill seem to be going the opposite direction, but at the same time are still hanging around at the very top.
Beat the Chiefs.
Instead of that rivalry.
How about Tom braided out of retirement? That fixes everything.
I like it also because he gets to distance himself even more than he already has from the Raiders. Again, we don't about that anymore. Remember, he's like, Tom, he's going to come in here and go to the winning mentality. And I was just like, I just know Mark Davis. We're not boys like that.
You hit me up, you ask me. I said, Yeah, why not?
Why not? I'm trying to do this.
Who's going to be there?
I'm You're all going to be there. Sell your steak there, end up with a little steak in the Dolphins. Just saying.
All I'm saying is this could be a pretty decent quarterback class in the NFL draft, and the Dolphins are going to have a high enough pick. They better select someone.
Zaz, the thing is, even if a GM were able to trade him, whatever genius plan that that has put together, that guy should get a raise. Just cut him. The thing is, if you cut him, you're dead at $110 million.
So what? But Bronco is two years later, a good team.
Yeah, okay. But look at the Saints who are in salary cap hell because of what happened with Derek R. And now you're looking around saying, They're the worst team in the East.
But if you dropped a good quarterback the way Sean Payton did, it doesn't matter. And just dropped the right guy.
It's developing a guy, too. Bo Nicks, if he didn't go to Sean Payton, he'd be a backup somewhere. Correct?
Maybe.
That's what we're What are you looking at. Michael Pennix, a guy who sat behind.
I hate the idea that they can't just cut to it. Yeah, you can. They're going to be shitty either way with a deadcap hit or not.
Yes, you can. Not that that would bear into your decision to cut him or not. Is there any potential for Tua to have a Daniel Jones, Sam Darnal, glow up post-Dolphins?
He's so limited. My case is, too. I think he's washed. I don't think he's a good quarterback anymore. I think once in a while, once every few games, you'll get a good game when a couple of years ago was once every few games, you get a bad game. It's the opposite now. I think he's washed. So my answer is no. I don't believe that.
I mean, we saw those other guys look pretty washed in their own right. Maybe not in the physical sense.
No, I don't think they're washed. I think we were thinking that they're just not that good. We hadn't actually seen the potential coming out yet. We have seen it with Tua, and he's not that guy anymore. We've seen it with Tua on this exact team. It's the same scenario. So that's why I think the situation is a little bit different.
And the reason you look at those guys and see them have success is they always had the physical tools that could make them good. They're big, strong guys.
They were clearly just in a shitty situation.
Exactly.
Two of us in the same situation.
It looks physically different, right? And he doesn't seem to be a guy that was ever going to all of a sudden figure it out. He figured it out early. Now, those guys have crazy arm strength, the ability to move around. That's a different thing than what you get with to a skillset.
I know it's a hard thing for us to do, especially we're talking about football players. And to say, just with us watching it, to say that that guy looks like he's playing scared. But how many times during that Baltimore game on Thursday night where there are plays made out there, it's like, Yeah, he looks like he's scared playing quarterback now.
Zaz, what did you think about his comment about his height? That's the first time I've ever heard, even though for years, short quarterbacks were discriminated against in the draft because because he can't see over his line. It took guys like Doug Flutti showing like, It doesn't matter then, and Drew Brees.
I mean, two weeks before that, when's the last time you heard a quarterback talk about the other quarterback they were going against in Josh Allen and say, I'm not as good as him?
Yeah, it is pretty weird. It all feeds into what you're talking about when you talk about fear, it's like, I don't think this guy believes in himself anymore. The fact that he's saying, I'm too short to see over the line, I'm like, that's like, you never say that as a short quarterback because that's the first thing people think when they're trying to evaluate.
You know who's not saying that? Drew Brees. You know who's not saying that? Bo Nicks. You know who's not saying that? Baker. All guys that are shorter than him that play really well.
Even now, while Russell Wilson sucks, you're not going to hear Russell Wilson say something like that.
You would never say that. What is Tua's plus attribute?
I mean, it used to be that he was accurate, right?
Okay. That's the only thing. Arm strength, no. Leadership, not really. Durability, no. Speed, no. Athleticism, no. His height, no. Arm strength, no.
Now, apparently, he also doesn't He doesn't get along with the coach anymore. What is his thing where you trot him out and you'd be like, I'm very excited that he's going to do X?
Nothing. We're paying him a lot of money.
We can't take a $110 million cap hit, and he won't retire. That would solve everything.
Just trade them for nothing. If you trade them for nothing, at least it's half the cap hit. I think Barry Jackson put it out there earlier. If you trade them before June first, it's like $45 million as a cap hit, as opposed to the $90 million it would be if you cut them.
But no one's trading for it. Yeah, that's the problem.
You don't think that a team out there, not one team, that's desperate enough to or even swap bad money?
I think the biggest thing is, if I'm another team, I understand the dire straits the Dolphins are in, and I'm doing the Sam Presti, I'm like, I'll take them. You got to give me some shit with it. You got to give me a couple of pics. So then it turns into, is Tua so bad for your team?
No, I'd rather take the dead cap hit. Absolutely not. That's the difference with the NFL and the NBA. No, in the NFL, I'd rather just take the dead cap hit.
Although We've seen that twice in the NBA, Bradley Beal and Damian Lillard this past offseason, they were like, Yeah, I'd rather just cut bait than have to give up things to get them off of my books. So it does happen. But again, I think this all goes back to You went all in. The problem is you went all in financially, structurally, everything.
With a bad hand. You went in with a bad hand. You went in with a gutshot. The gutshot. And all of a sudden, you didn't have the glasses, you didn't have the reader, you didn't have the card shuffler. You didn't have anything. You said, All right, I've got this. And everybody around the league is like, Okay, you're going to pay them that much? Nobody else would have.
If not Tom braided, the announcement, I mean, I'd even rather maybe have Tony Romo come out of retirement and be my quarterback.
What was he doing there?
He said a fourth down. I was really short. He was trying to see.
But it sounds like something else. Can you play it again? And you'll see right here, hold and then another hold right there.
I think it was I got to tell you, many a time in my life, I've tried to hold and then hold again, only to end up saying, You got to fight sometimes.
It's hard. You got to call it- You can't fight.
Sometimes you can't fight.
Sometimes you can't fight. Sometimes you just got to let it go. You think about baseball, you think about anything else. Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day.
Base is not helping me I say baseball, and Jeremy starts thinking about that World Series game, and he goes, What are we talking about?
Have you ever tried to hold it and then hold it again?
It's hard to hold it sometimes. Sometimes you just got a twice? If you can get to twice, you already do it.
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