Transcript of Kirk Cousins: Reunited and it Feels So Good | Hour 2

We're going to get to some college football a little bit later on here. Greg, Jessica, Smetana will join us, fresh off of Notre Dame's victory. Is there any tension there, Mike, with Jess, because of the Notre Dame? I mean, I can understand.

No tension. No tension at all. She doesn't think it was a catch. Most people think it wasn't a catch. I think it was a catch. We move on.

Also, Mike is locked in and he's just trying to help his team.

We're on a one-and-oh.

One-and-oh. There you go. I get it. That's the MO. So she'll join us coming up later on today. Also today, Greg, I think you saw this, our friend Diana Ruscini is back today. Today. She's got a new show. She's starting a show. She even started tweeting again yesterday, like football reports, news, because yesterday was a big day, trade deadline, all that. But she's got a new show that she's debuting today.

Yeah. I wish her well. I know her casually through this show. I have nothing but good wishes for her, but she is doing something that's going to be nearly impossible for her. That's my concern. She's trying to come back in the exact same line of work where she had this scandal.

Well, not exact same, right? Not exact same.

She's still trying to be an insider.

Yeah. She's an NFL insider. I mean, her first tweet in months was speculating or predicting. I don't know exactly how she phrased it, but the Cousins trade to Minnesota. So she's right back doing what she did until her career was self-sabotaged in a way. I mean, my fear for her is that those incriminating photos are never going to go away. And everything I've seen on social media is just vitriol. It's just really hateful toward her and mocking her and making fun of her.

Well, that's where it ends up being unfortunate, where she's getting hammered and is going to have a hard time getting back to where she was when, you know, that's very clearly because she's a woman. And, you know, Mike Vrabel, and I understand Mike Vrabel didn't, you know, break any ethical codes. You know, I get that part.

Some.

But Mike Vrabel is able to just come back and say, "Eh, I don't want to answer any questions." And like, you know, we're good to go.

Yeah. The thing about her, though, with her job and her profession, hate views are the same as love views. So people who show up just to talk stuff, guess what? Thank you for the impression. So I think she's going to do a good job.

She gave an exclusive to People Magazine and that.

Did not go well.

No, it wasn't well received. People want an explanation. They feel like they're entitled to one. Diana wants to move forward with this and get back to work. And that is the exact same approach that Mike Vrabel has had. And yet it feels like Diana is getting hit with more toxicity on that front. And people are really clinging to the ethics of her line of work, juxtaposed to what Mike Vrabel is. And while I'll acknowledge that is a difference, I don't think that is a good faith discourse if you can't acknowledge that the largest difference in how these two things are being received is gender.

Yeah. I mean, but it is, it's hard to ignore, right? Because, and again, Diana's a friend, so I'm not saying anything I wouldn't say directly to her. But Mike Vrabel, if he is stepping out on his marriage, that doesn't really have an impact on the job he does. It doesn't. There's no implied impact. There's no actual impact.

What if he's leaking to Diana?

That's different. But still, that does not impact his ability to coach the game, right?

I think it's pretty irrefutable, given the evidence that we have and some of Diana's reporting, that Mike Vrabel was a source for Diana Ruscini. So, and there are rules internally amongst those organizations that you shouldn't be doing that. So miss me with like one person breached ethics. Yes, she did, no doubt. And she was hired by the Athletic and the New York Times. And their standard is legendary. And it is a different standard than Mike Vrabel's. But let's not pretend like there isn't some sort of standard there that Mike Vrabel's also stepping over.

There is not. Again, he's not ethically clear, right? But my point is, when the Patriots line up against the Packers, like, other than leaking to Diana, "Hey, we're going to run this kind of defense to try and stop," which is clear from the sourcing, that has never happened.

No one questions Mike Vrabel's integrity when he's deciding to go for it on fourth and two because he had this thing.

Exactly.

Whereas you have to question the integrity of Diana because she's a reporter.

That's the job. The job is not only the, it's twofold. One is the means of accessing the information, right? But then the other part of it is.

Why does that actually matter?

It does. Like this journal, this is the rules of journalism.

Well, that's also been the long debate. I don't disagree.

Hold on. But there's a second point, and that's the one that really hammers home, right? Is the idea is that as someone who disseminates information, you have control. And of course, other reporters are doing this, like deciding when and what to disseminate. Oh, this is bad news for them. I'm not going to say it. Oh, this is good news. This helps them. I am going to say it. And that's the part that really makes it kind of difficult. It's not just how did you get this information? It's which information are you withholding from us? Which information are you propagating for us?

I yes, I don't disagree.

And those are central to her job. Whereas him saying, "Hey, by the way, we really like AJ Brown," that's not central to his job of coaching the Patriots.

I don't disagree. And I do acknowledge that that is a difference. That discourse, by the way, that we just had is largely missing from this. People want a pound of flesh. People want an explanation. That seems to be at least, and I know social media is in real life, but talking about that, "Hey, that People Magazine interview was weird." She hasn't really addressed this. And people are really seizing it when it comes to her. And Mike Vrabel, while we had our questions too, wasn't getting hit exactly with what she's getting hit with when it comes to not addressing and just trying to power through.

And this is where you and I see eye to eye because I don't think she owes an explanation.

No.

Like, it's like the only person who is owed an explanation to all this, only two people, is Mike Vrabel's wife and Diana Ruscini's husband. Those are the only people who are owed an explanation. Us, we just got to go about our days, man.

You're right. You're totally right. But her new show won't have success if she doesn't give an explanation.

I don't agree. Because of what Juju said.

I think people, she's going to draw a massive number today. A massive number.

Yes. People are going to want an answer. I don't know if she'll give them the answers.

If they don't, I think it's, I think people are going to be upset.

I'm going to tell you what it is, though. Diana Ruscini is trying to go back to what she was doing before. If she's able to break news, be first on stuff, and big news stuff, none of this is going to matter. In the same way that Adrian Wojnarski, like, spent a career destroying people's careers and being a bully. But because he let us know who the 16th pick was 10 minutes before it came out, he's, no one cared. At the end of the day, it's a bottom line business. People just care about, did you give me the scoop? And if they did, they don't really care.

You break news, you're going to become undeniable in that field. And if she adds context to stories that are around the league, she's going to get clipped. The audience that is coming there for a specific thing, that's going to fall off a cliff in episode two when they realize that that's not what the show is about. But if, like Amin said, if she remains relevant in that space, if she's breaking news, if she's bringing things to light, she's going to become undeniable.

These are public figures who were involved in a scandal. And I think people are wanting more than just an explanation. They're wanting to hear contrition. They're wanting to hear, "I'm sorry. I effed up. And we're trying to move on, but I understand all the."

Which apparently, which in the People Magazine story, like she portrayed herself as the victim here.

Yeah. And I don't think that wins anybody over at all.

I don't think it's a black and white thing. I do think she's been victimized. I do think she's been victimized.

More so than Vrabel, that's for sure.

No doubt. Like you can have like some victimhood and also like be one of the perpetrators of what happened to you. But, and that's all just on how society reacts to you.

The larger point in all this to me is that I don't, let's say there was infidelity involved. That's a very, in most cases, that's a very private matter that involves two couples. It involves two husbands and two wives and whatever, two couples. And it's not a, it should not be a career-ending life sentence to me. The problem is she's trying to get back in the same career. I think that's what's going to be very difficult for her.

If I may, I don't think that she's trying to get back in the same career.

Right. I don't either.

I think she's acknowledging that this is going to look a little different. And it has to be different, even if she's going to try to uphold some journalistic integrities along the way. I think she knows, like the days of the Athletic or Binder at least, at least like for the time being, she can rebuild herself. And she absolutely deserves that opportunity. She's not the first person to go through this that went away for a little bit, rebuilt themselves, and came back and got, you know, traditional legacy media jobs. Steve Phillips comes to mind, right?

I hope so. Yeah. To the people who say, "Damn, she should not do this anymore." Or she's, whatever their definition of what she's up to. What do y'all want her to do? She's been doing this damn job for all her damn life, adult life at least. And she's very good at it. And she had a blunder. I think that she picks up the football if she knows how to throw it and becomes a quarterback again.

Dude, she absolutely deserves an opportunity to make a living in her craft that she's worked really hard for. Yeah, bad decision. But I think people like a good comeback story. People want their pound of flesh more, it seems.

Doesn't have to be a pound of flesh, though. Doesn't need a pound of flesh.

Dude, right now the block is hot and people feel like they're demanded an explanation. They're demanding an explanation. And you're not owed one, pal. You're just not. You're not. She's not running for office. And even if she were, you can have that debate.

Man, it's a lot worse. It's running for office right now. It's in office.

Exactly. This is just gossipy. And I think there's a lot of just the same kind of gotcha culture that's on social media. It's just waiting, want something. And even if they get it, they're going to get back to their jokes anyway. So you can't take those people seriously.

I just think, I think it's a tough spot to, and see, I don't think she's trying to get back to what she was doing before. I think she wants to be an insider, but also is kind of pivoting to, you know, the talk show, you know, realm. And I know she had her show Scoop City before, but I think that she's trying to kind of expand and we're also going to talk show and that kind of deal. And I think it's hard to grow an audience in the talk show realm if out of the gates, people don't believe you're being honest. That's why I think you probably got to give a little bit today.

You set the expectation. I'm being honest about work. My personal life is my business. You are not entitled to that explanation, even though it's subject to your online banter. I'm not beholden to that. I'm beholden to this job and creating engaging content and trying to make a career for myself again and provide for my family.

People are very willing to forgive. There needs to be some sort of contrition or else it's really hard to forgive. And I think that's what people are looking at saying like, well, do you feel bad about it? Are you sad about it? Like, do we have any?

Oh, and she said in that story, she was very sad.

This is what I would say you should do, right? You should hold it to the end of the episode. And just as far as, okay, I'm going to address this. Oh, we're out of time. But next time, tune in and then just keep kicking the can down the road. And there's a cliffhanger at the end. Maybe just a little sprinkle of like, oh, I'm going to start talking about this, but I'm not going to quite finish the sentence because we got out of time, guys. But stay tuned next time.

Like we had no time for Matt Damon, Juju.

I hope it works out for her. I do. Like, I hope it works out for her.

Yeah. And the other complication here is that if she does open up and all of a sudden she's very honest, well, her honesty is also speaking for somebody else who's in charge of the Patriots right now. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, but if she all of a sudden opens up and does give us the explanation and the contrition that a lot of people want and dare say demand, then that puts something on Vrabel that he's got to start addressing again as well.

Hello. This is not Greg Cody.

Greg Cody.

That kind of thing. And you know it.

This is the Dan Le Batard Show.

I'll tell you something I was upset about. I've been upset about the last couple of days.

What's that?

All right. I don't know if you guys know this. I like movies, Greg.

I like that.

Yeah, I heard that. Oh, a big movie guy.

Yeah.

Are you?

Probably not.

I'm a, how dare you. I'm a very big.

You watched Rambo yet?

That's cap.

Rambo.

You watched Rambo?

I have not watched Rambo.

Rambo?

I've never seen Rambo.

First Blood.

No, First Blood's the first one or the second one?

First Blood is the first one.

Everyone thinks that Rambo one is called Rambo. It's not. It's called First Blood.

So the second one is First Blood Part Two?

Yes.

That's confusing.

It is confusing. That's why I don't like movies.

That's why.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Rambo Three.

They do this occasionally. Movies change names after the release. Like we did Edge of Tomorrow.

Edge of Tomorrow is the greatest title in movie history. And they changed it to Live Die Repeat.

Do you know Blade Two is not Blade Two?

No, I thought it was Live Die Repeat and then they changed it to Edge of Tomorrow.

It was Edge of Tomorrow when it came out. The coolest name in movies.

And now it's Live Die Repeat?

Now it's Live Die Repeat.

How about.

It was played by the Bale the college years.

Oh, yeah.

They were standing on the Edge of Tomorrow.

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

Is that right?

Yeah, from here the future looks bright for me at least. And it's toe up to me how far I go.

Yeah.

Thunderbolts did that too. Thunderbolts is now referred to as New Avengers, I think, right?

No, there was an asterisk on it.

Ah, okay.

It was always Thunderbolts asterisk and the asterisk says the New Avengers.

Yeah, Blade Two officially never changed its name, but sometimes it shows up listed as Blade Two Bloodhunt. And everyone's like, what? I don't remember that.

There's also no Blade Three. It's Blade Trinity.

I don't like when movies and TV shows change their names.

Ridiculous.

Like I was watching, I was watching, I used to see that show with Tay Leone, Madam Secretary. And then she became president and they changed the show to Madam President. I don't like that.

Well, no, that's actually pretty good because it reflects the growth of the character.

Yeah, that makes sense. I don't like that. Stay in your lane. She was Madam Secretary.

You want to keep her as a secretary?

Well, that's what they're telling me.

Listen to your words.

You're not an ally.

You're not an ally. They named the show. They could have just called the show Madam and we wouldn't be dealing with this mess.

Well, then that's a different show.

It was a totally different show.

So I've been mad because for the last couple of days. Get this nonsense about the superhero, the DC movies, Greg. You know about the, Greg, do you know any DC movie characters? Like, you know, there's two different.

Batman.

Oh, okay. How about that?

Well, that's.

Let's see how far we can go here.

Good job.

Let's see how far we can go here.

Out of box, out of box.

You got Batman. Can you give me another DC character?

Superman.

Okay.

Those are the big two. I don't know about the third.

Take a sip of coffee. You deserve it.

Thank you. Finger is sweet, right?

Let's try another one.

Hulk Hogan?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Isn't it?

One hand clap. Nothing sadder than two hands clapping.

You got the two big ones.

It wasn't Hulk?

No. If you're thinking of Incredible Hulk, that's Marvel.

Wait a minute. Oh, did I say Hulk Hogan?

Yeah.

I meant Incredible Hulk.

Yeah.

No, I did. Because he's a cartoon and Hogan's not.

Incredible Hulk?

Wrestler. Incredible Hulk is what I meant.

That's Marvel. All right, you did okay. You got two. You got Superman and Batman.

Thank you very much.

So, Mike, we talked about this.

Change your poop colors.

We talked about this on Zazlo Show 2.0 a little bit yesterday, me and Amine, yelling about it, the two of us, because DC is again going through the whole change in direction and canceling, you know, movies and TV shows. And they might be recasting Superman again. Like, I'm so tired of having to get invested in these characters. I loved the Superman movie, the new one. Loved it. And now I might possibly have to do another Superman, get behind another story, another actor.

It's a huge bummer because every time you, you lose the energy to reinvest.

Of course.

And this would be the third restart in the last 15 years.

Less than that even.

Yeah, like decade when it comes to the DCU and why even take this seriously anymore. It's just a huge bummer. And look, I wasn't the biggest fan. I do think that this was a huge upgrade over the Snyderverse.

Thank you.

I liked that also, by the way, but.

I didn't like the Snyderverse whatsoever. I thought that this was an upgrade.

Marvel. Why did you say that name?

I did like the tone of it and a little bit more family-friendly. Sounds like we're about to get way more family-friendly when it comes to these movies.

Right. There's no more Peacemaker. They're done with that. Peacemaker was so good.

That was so good, man.

So good.

So good.

There's no more Lanterns, which just ended and that was awesome.

Canceled season two.

Straight up canceled.

Blame.

And like they're going to let James Gunn finish the movies, the Superman movie that he's making right now. He's just finishing up the sequel to Superman, Greg, Man of Tomorrow.

Yes.

And apparently like Green Lantern is in that and even Wonder Woman is supposed to debut in that.

Wonder Woman, let me tell you something, brother.

And then they're just going to end that like line of movies.

There's questions. Like James Gunn is still around in creative, but.

He was fired.

He's being boxed out. I mean, he did collaborate some with a new head who's, you know, people have been digging into his beliefs, but he did work with them before in the MCU on Guardians. So maybe there's hope that they can.

Why are they telling me that they're going to be like Christian-based DC movies now?

Because the dude that's taking over DCU is a very out-and-out devout.

What does that have to do with making movies?

Well, here's the deal. When you are purchased by a little company called Skydance.

Should I know what that company is?

Yes.

Yes. It's owned by Larry Ellison and.

His son.

Larry Ellison. Yeah, well, Larry Ellison is at the top of it and he's donated a lot to conservative causes. And this is what happens when you consolidate all these companies together. You got basically, you know, one conservative company shaping content for a lot of IP that you've come to know and love. And you're going to love Chris Pratt as Superman and Batman.

I can't wait to see Batman whoop the of some poor people because billionaires have it right. Bruce Wayne deserves better than this.

So Clayface is going to be the last of its kind, right? Not going to get any of those Raider Raw movies.

Or maybe it becomes a model. Like, all right, you want your fun little creative project, like here's a $45 million budget and no actors and we'll see if we can get a hit.

Well, and Matt Reeves' Batman is probably going to be done too, right?

Look.

Are they even going to make this second movie?

Well, Steven Soderbergh's finishing it. I do think that you can be bummed that there's another restart and not trust it. Certainly, DCU has not earned your trust. But also, let's not say that this recent James Gunn thing has worked out spectacularly well. Box office bombs. And I do think that James Gunn could have used somebody telling him, no, a creative, it's hard to run these companies as a creative and you want to be aligned with these filmmakers.

I just passed the pen when it was so good.

Robert Pattinson's going to be 10 years older than when he started like getting in development with these projects.

Can I say something about that Matt Reeves' Batman, folks? I watched it when it came out and I was like, I don't like it. But I was like, whatever. But then the Penguin came out and I watched it and I was like.

What a show.

This is amazing. Maybe I didn't give Batman, the Batman, excuse me, a fair shake.

You should go back and watch it.

I went back and watched it and you know what? I still don't like it. It's not good. I don't want Emo Batman. I don't want Batman. Like, I'm sad in the corner. No.

Yeah, I do agree. It was just, it was just okay and it was too long. And yeah, I think Matt Reeves and James Gunn both could have been using a little bit more constructive criticism saying, no, you hit deadlines. No, this isn't good enough for you to be saying that you're going to delay production for fricking years because you want to get the script right. Script's not that good.

I will say, while I did like these James Gunn movies, all right, I will say I can understand this mistake that was made where when Marvel started making their movies, you know, in the late 2000s, and granted, they didn't know that it was going to become what it is now. But what were the first few Marvel movies? It was Iron Man.

Iron Man.

It was Thor.

Of the MCU.

It was Incredible Hulk and Captain America.

The first.

No, I'm talking about this MCU that started with Iron Man.

The first Marvel movie that started the comic book boom, as we all know, Blade.

No, I'm talking about with this.

Blade Two Bloodhunt.

Blade Trinity.

But those movies, it was Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, Hulk. Everybody knows those. With the DCU, where the F is Batman?

But it started with Superman.

Where is Wonder Woman?

Yeah.

It's Superman.

You can't give me Clayface before you give me Batman. You know, and they're making a Gorilla God, okay? That'd be like if Marvel came out with Ant-Man before Iron Man.

This is what I'm telling you, that James Gunn should have been told no a couple of times.

Where is Batman?

The good news is for those toeing that line is that James Gunn's about to be told no a lot more.

Yeah. It's just frustrating.

Do I still work here? No.

No, no, you do not. It's just frustrating. Like I don't.

Yeah, because it had potential.

Yeah. Yeah.

It had potential. Who do you think Jason Momoa is going to play now?

Dan Le Batard.

I want to address Tony and all men who would wear that shirt in public.

Greg Coty.

Don't do it.

This is the Dan Le Batard Show.

Guys, I have a writing in by the text line, one Dave Damishack who says, "The Penguin and Lanterns were, ironically, a Marvel." Dave Damishack, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you.

Oh boy. Good job, Tony.

Alex Donald said the same thing. Take a sip of coffee. You deserve it.

Yesterday was a fun day in the NFL. Like we were.

Ah, it wasn't that fun.

It was fun.

It wasn't fun enough.

No.

I wanted Jonathan Taylor. Come on.

Yeah. It could have been more fun.

Jonathan Taylor Thomas? So I want to lead with, like the big story yesterday was Kirk Cousins, right?

Recycling Kirk Cousins, yeah.

Okay, but you say recycling, he's been good enough with the, like if the Vikings get the Raiders version of Kirk Cousins, the Vikings are back to being a Superbook contender.

Easily.

That means you have an all, you have a great defense and adequate quarterback play. They have had below adequate quarterback play and they were 6-0. If Cousins is just decent, they're a Superbook contender.

I think Justin Jefferson is happy today. I'll say that. But I don't know if Kirk Cousins gets you to a Super Bowl.

No, the defense does.

Well, the defense, yeah, their offense is better. I just don't think Minnesota right now with Kirk Cousins is Super Bowl quality. I still think they're maybe the sixth or eighth best team in the league for me. They don't have a great running game. I don't know. I hope I'm wrong because that would be cool to see Kirk Cousins have a late career renaissance, but sorry, I'm leaning away from the mic again.

No, you're good.

Okay.

You made a great point though. That's why you faded away.

I did, yeah.

Get up at one point.

Yeah.

And walk like that NBA player. What was it?

Derek Queen.

Derek Queen.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What happened there?

Was it Hulk Hogan?

What happened there, by the way, with Derek Queen?

That is going to frustrate me forever.

Can you explain to the audience what happened, please?

So this is what happened. Derek Queen's not having a great game.

Dude, you remind me to get back to Kirk Cousins.

Yes, sir.

He gets subbed out. He goes to the bench, doesn't sit down. He kind of grabs the towel and then decides, you know what? I'm going to go for a stroll. So at first, I'm watching this, I'm thinking, you know, he's going to go to the locker room. But as he walks down the baseline, he begins to walk up the opposite sideline where the courtside seats are. And I'm like, where is he going? Maybe the tunnel's that way. Then he ends up on the opposite baseline, sits in an empty seat in the crowd and just chills there for a little bit. And did anyone ask him, "What's up?"

I think I know what happened there. He was going to the locker room, but like two steps before, he was like, "What the hell am I doing?" And he changed course and then he was like, "Oh, hey, Jack Nicholson."

Or did he get lost on the way?

I think maybe he was like, well, now it's a thing. I just got to power through because if I walk back, I'm going to look ridiculous. And it was just a miscalculation because he ended up looking more ridiculous. But he's just like, "Oh, you reached that point of no return."

Dumars traded an unprotected first for him, didn't he?

He's good. Like that's a crazy thing. It's just, he'll never be good enough to justify that deal. Which, by the way, that pick turned into Kingston Flemings, who's starting for your Atlanta Hawks.

Juju, I wanted to get back to someone. What was I saying?

Yes, sir.

Kirk Cousins.

Kirk Cousins at the Vikings.

Ah, yes, Kirk Cousins. I love when players go back to former teams. I think the Cousins story is really fun. By the way, Minnesota Vikings number 10 in the ZFP. New rankings come out next Tuesday.

Ah, there you go.

Everybody knows that.

Will there be a bump?

Wait and see.

Wait and see. I do think though, I disagree with you, Greg. I think this does make them Super Bowl contenders because of the Bills' persuasion. If the Bills would have been playing any type of competence on the other side of that offensive bar, they would have beat our ass on Monday. And I think that this propels them at least to the Super Bowl.

KOC's been a good coach for them. KOC gets a lot of credit for turning around the career of Sam Darnold. This has been a larger data sample now of him not being able to replicate the magic that he did with Darnold.

Well, and maybe not being able to evaluate either.

I know. It's making it tough. Now, Darnold did show that maybe it wasn't all KOC. Darnold goes out and wins a Super Bowl on his own. But KOC, my dude, you're supposed to be the offensive genius here. And you seem to be a Brian Flores merchant. So if you're not able to move the ball with Kirk Cousins, who's shown this season that he's capable of putting the ball in the hands of his talents, so i.e., Justin Jefferson can't be having the kind of season he's having right now. If it continues, then the eyes are on KOC.

This is the last stop for KOC. Like you had success with Kirk Cousins, then you fail with JJ McCarthy. You fail basically letting Sam Darnold walk. You fail with Carson Wentz. You fail with Kyler Murray.

JJ McCarthy.

Right. You trade him away. Like all of these things are failures on your record. Albeit they're small sample size. You had more of a sample size with Kirk Cousins. Weren't able to get over the hump. Right now, you've done everything. You have the defense to win a championship. You have the skill position players to do so. And if you're KOC, you're hoping to God you make a run because if not, it might be your head on the chopping block next.

Conversely, if Cousins plays great, is this the last stop for Kyler Murray? Or does he become a full-time Twitch streamer?

It might be that already.

I am.

He was cooked the moment he left the Cardinals.

I don't think he's a starter anymore in this league.

Also, I'll let me correct myself. I forgot about the Bears. NFC Championship.

Number two ZFP.

Yeah.

I think the Cousins impact gets a referendum immediately because they play at the Packers Sunday. The Packers defense has been really good since week four. They've been really good.

Minnesota beat them already this year.

Yeah, they have. But that was pretty early. And Green Bay's favored by more than a field goal despite Cousins. And so this is going to be an immediate test for him. I like Green Bay in that game. I just don't think the Vikings are going to be all that because of Kirk Cousins.

And that game they beat the Bears in, it was a show. It was raining so hard and that was the game that Caleb Heritage had a hammy. You did.

So the Niners traded for Keenan Allen, right? And that's exactly why you don't, why you look at me like that.

Should I be impressed?

Well, I like.

These are the things that, again, like I've talked about this a lot. Like a lot of sports knowledge I have is like dated. So it's like Keenan Allen, I'm like, wow, that's a big deal. I'm like, is it a big deal?

No, well, to me, it's just. That's why you don't bring back Ayuk because like you can get Keenan Allen. And it's not worth the hassle branding Ayuk. I'd much rather have this version of Keenan Allen.

Plus, San Francisco loves the older players. They recycled Mike Evans at the same position and a lot of people were making the ghost of Mike Evans jokes. And now it's the ghost of Keenan Allen. But, you know, they're pretty reliable veteran targets for a party. And I think the guy knows what he's doing, who's running the 49ers.

It's not just those two. You got Brandon Cooks and Christian Kirk. He's carrying the flame. Well, I'm sure they were probably looking at Brian Thomas Jr. and then the Jags were like, yeah, no, we're not going to trade him. And everybody's like, really? The Rams probably looked around saying we needed something. San Francisco said that could be a guy that could be dynamic in our offense. Jags were like, nah, we're good. Yeah. I'm glad you mentioned the Jags. For me, they're the story of the deadline. All in and they know it and it's their time. Funny enough, they said they weren't all in moves. They were like, no, we're just getting our team better. It's like, oh, okay.

Number three ZFP. Josh Downs goes to Kansas City.

Could make a difference.

That's Cajuse.

Yeah, could make a difference.

Yeah. Any other deals that I'm missing there that were of consequence yesterday?

I think the Arizona Cardinals should be ashamed of themselves. Keeping Buddha Bake over there hostage. The Bills say, yo, we want him. And they say, nah, nah. Well, what are you keeping him for? To be out there as a chandelier? I don't like it.

The same reason why the Colts kept Jonathan Taylor. It's like, all right, we need somebody to sell jerseys. We need somebody to be the face of the franchise for the next year while we're 1 in, you know, 17.

Juju, yesterday you called for the Bills to make a defensive move, get you a safety. How do you feel about Amani Hooker? Bro, I couldn't believe it. When that news came, I called my girl instantly. I say, look at this. And she's a big Bills fan. She couldn't believe it. We actually did something resembling anything. And I'm happy about it because Damar Hamlin, salute. I love you big, bro. But I don't want to depend on you as safety out there. You dig it? So I think this is will propel us to at least the AFC Championship.

Wow. And Hooker had success against Joe Burrow, right? When he had those couple of interceptions from there, it was like, all right, wait a second. He's seen the field a little bit better. And that's the one team that you're looking at outside of the Jags. If you're the Bills saying, all right, how do we get over this team right here? You have a guy that's already picked up on his tendencies and was able to pick them off a couple of times. Greg, you're a dolphins guy. You disappointed at the lack of movement at the deadline or you just acknowledging we actually don't have pieces that other teams are interested in at the moment.

I think it goes both ways. They don't have pieces that other teams are interested in other than the young guys that they want to develop. I mean, Jacob Rodriguez right now would probably bring a second round draft pick the way he's playing on defense.

The only veteran piece that I think the Dolphins that they would have been interested in would have been Sealer. He's out six months now. But even before that, I think they said they are not trading him.

Well, the two guys that might have had interest are both hurting, Sealer and Ae-chan.

Yeah. And they don't have the money to spend on any top free agent. And they don't need a running back. They don't want Jonathan Taylor. Daniel Jones isn't the answer. But to me, the Colts are the big mystery of the trade deadline because they all but declare a fire sale. And then they don't trade their two most valuable players. And there was a market for especially Taylor, but also Daniel Jones. I'm surprised they didn't deal either of them.

There were teams interested in Jonathan Taylor, but.

I'm sure they're asking for a lot.

I think if you really parse it, I think a lot of teams realize, who am I negotiating here? Like who's going to be really aggressive here? What does he bring to the table? I think maybe like Seattle would have been interesting, but Seattle's probably looking at like, we don't have to give in to an asking price because who's really going to be that aggressive in this market for Jonathan Taylor?

Giants were the highest bidder to second and a fifth. And the Colts were like, yeah, no, that's not going to be enough. And the Giants were like, all right, screw it.

Did you see what the Giants did after that? They called up Atlanta and they tried to get Bijane.

I thought the Packers would have been bigger players for Jonathan Taylor because of the handcuff situation.

I'm improving giving up.

And Jonathan Taylor's stock has dropped mainly because of Bijane and Jameer Gibbs are clearly the two best running backs in the league now. And Jonathan Taylor's all of a sudden on that second tier.

Three minutes 12.

Greg, where are we on making Codyville a real thing?

You know, the people are speaking. And I have to take it seriously. There's a petition out to change the name of the City of Plantation, my hometown, to Codyville. And I have to prepare for that. And in the latest episode of the Greg Cody Show, you know, what we do is we present select declarations from the Codyville founding charter. So we have a dozen proposed amendments and.

Who proposed these amendments?

Well, the mayor of Codyville, whose presence you're in right now.

Gotcha.

I mean, it goes without saying.

Who elected him?

Well, it's an unelected position. It goes without saying that if they name the city Codyville, who's going to be the mayor?

Gotcha.

You know, who else?

It's going to be a landslide victory.

There's not going to be a count because we're not going to have an election. It's going to be an appointed position.

And so you made these 12 amendments.

Yeah. Well, the committee did.

Okay. The committee of one.

The charter committee.

Yeah. Do you have any of these amendments?

I have a few of them, yeah.

Can I hear some?

Yeah, of course. These are, you know, they may be tweaked, but one of the amendments is all Codyville businesses will be required to install front entrance floor traps to thwart crime by swallowing would-be robbers into an eight-foot free fall to a waiting underground jail. What we're doing is we're putting the old school back in crime fighting.

Yeah.

Okay?

Yeah.

Another one, a tourism tax on city visitors will go toward building retractable roof domes over all city parks hosting girls' travel softball tournaments. We've been to too many girls' softball tournaments, eight and under, I'm talking about where the rain wreaks havoc. And I think it's time to build, you know, we don't have to have $50 million retractable dome stadiums. These are small city ballparks, but we're going to do right by these brave young girls who are trying to play a softball game.

Not Pac-Man proper, Ms. Pac-Man.

Ms. Pac-Man, yes.

You like that version better?

Yeah.

So not the village of Codyville.

No. No. The town.

Okay. Village could get confusing with another village somewhere else up north in Florida.

Yeah, we're calling it, no, no, we're calling it the town of Codyville.

You feel stupid, Roy.

What can I tell you? I don't know if it'll come to fruition. You know, I don't know if the petition's going to take, but we're planning. We can't afford not to plan.