Transcript of Hour 1: 66 Nuggets (feat. Jessica Smetana)

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Yeah. Pransition.

Yeah.

Jessica, before we get into the College Football Playoff Rankings version 1. 0, we're having a discussion all show long about how many nuggets consists of an appropriate level of punishment for one Christopher Cody. He's supposed to eat 99 during the show. He's up to 49 right now, which is actually great pace. 50 down the hatch. There it is.

That one had crunch.

The air fryer working. Yeah, the air fryer. But, Jessica, so the question is, does he have to do all 99 for us to consider the punishment complete, or is there a passing grade somewhere at some point.

Or is 99, actually, you're just giving him a free lunch for the day? Is that also up for debate? That's what I thought.

But apparently, he says he doesn't eat that much in general.

Well, I guess it depends on the temperature of the nuggets. I think colder nuggets is more of a punishment than hot crispy nuggets. I think it depends on if he's allowed to use various sauces.

He's allowed to use sauces.

He's just gone dry. He hasn't used barely any sauce. We just warmed up the nuggets, so those are hot and crispy. Both grilled and crispy are both warm.

Jess, the first 25, I was cooking. I was cooking with gas. I was confident. The last 25 have been a struggle.

Is it safe to eat this many nuggets? I hope. Have we involved-We're good. Any regular regulatory work bodies? We're good.

We also don't have that.

Yeah, it's Florida. It just seems like a lot of sodium.

Yes, it does.

That I'm concerned about.

It'll be fine.

It sounds like Jess thinks I'm good. 50, I made a valiant effort.

No, it sounds like Jess is saying that 99 is the number.

I need your support.

Please.

I don't want to be the arbiter of how many nuggets is too many nuggets for Chris because I am slightly concerned that the salt could kill him. I don't want this to be an onion situation.

To be fair to you, Jessica, I don't know if you could see it behind me. We've got our hat rack here.

When's the last time salt killed someone?

Everyone hung their hats up. This is a committee. We're making an unbiased decision about these nuggets and the nugget count. So don't feel like you are the auditor. This is a committee. We all have our hats off here. So having said that, your vote would be for what?

Seventy-five.

Seventy-five? There you go. That's higher than some of the other votes that came in.

Two-thirds of the way there then, Chris. Yeah, you're almost done. Let's get it in motion.

He has to do it by the end of the show.

I'm looking up how much salt in one day can kill me.

When's the last time salt hurt somebody?

Pretty often, I think. But in one day, though.

It's generally not good for your bloodstream.

Doctors tend to ask.

What do they ask?

How much salt you have in?

What do you answer?

A fair amount.

I'm always like slightly above average. The lethal dose of table salt is roughly 0. 5 to 1 gram per kilogram of body weight.

You got plenty of time.

That's so much. I have no idea what that means.

You got plenty of time.

It seems like it's a lot.

I just feel like I'm good.

What do you know about that high blood pressure?

That's my gimmick.

That high. Jessica, Who should feel most slighted by version 1. 0 of the college football playoff rankings?

Oh, man, that's a good question. I, to be honest, was afraid I was going to get on the Zoom today and everyone was going to yell at me. So I guess I assumed Miami fans would feel that way, to answer your question.

Why is that? Why would you say that?

Because they're all the way down at 18. I think that SMU loss was not the loss they could afford to have. I think had they waited to lose to pit at the end of the season, it might have been a different story.

And don't forget, Gino thinks the ref stole that game.

Yeah. You know what?

Let me just say this. I saw a lot of the complaining about the officiating in the Miami SMU game, and I understand. I think the officiating across the board in college football this year has been pretty bad. There's been a number of... I mean, Wake Forest got totally screwed in their game against Georgia Tech earlier this season. There's been so many calls this season. I mean, the Auburn, Georgia game. Did you guys talk about the Kirby Smart timeout thing, the clapping, that whole thing? Yeah, we talked about that. That was quite a charade.

Auburn, Oklahoma was a shit show. I know Dabo was accusing reps of betting on games after the API in Clemson, Duke. Officiating is bad everywhere.

It's bad everywhere. And And I think that Miami fans have a point. I see where the refs were going with the specific ruffing the passer call after the whistle. He did hit him really hard. But that being said, it is bad everywhere. It does affect everyone. How your head coach handles it, whether or not he blames the refs in the postgame or takes the high road, that matters, too, I think, to the teams that they are able to not feel like they were cheated by it and can stay focused, et cetera. But I do think that there's significant complaints that can be made this season on college football officiating.

I do disagree that losing the last game this season would have been better for Miami because we have an example of that just last year where they lost last game.

Yeah, I know. You're right.

Last game of the season. I'm actually encouraged that they have a month to work because the committee already tipped their hand in that they need to see more consistency from Miami. Every other example in the top 25 when there was a head-to-head matchup where teams had the same ranking, all the teams that won the game were ranked higher than the loser, except for one instance, Miami. But I do not blame them. Miami has played one good half in the last month. If Miami goes 4-0, they will have a solid argument. College football is nutty in November. We'll see then. But right now, Miami is zero to complain about. They got to handle their business. There's not going to be anything more difficult than winning four games.

If I could just jump in real quick here, Jess. All right, so let's say Miami finishes 4-0, and they look good in the process. You want Miami to then be included in the college football play-up, but then you also I'd love to give into the idea that the only way they're going to get into the college football play-up then would be if three ACC teams wind up making the college football play-off, because then we're talking about the loser of the title game. Based on the current landscape, how could anyone How does everyone make the case that three ACC teams are going to get in?

Well, okay, let's say Georgia Tech goes undefeated the rest of the season. That means they beat Georgia, and then they lose the ACC title game to, I guess, who would they be playing against in that scenario? Virginia or Louisville.

Louisville is probably a tricky one for Miami because if you have three teams with the same record, if Notre Dame, Louisville, Miami have the same record, then Louisville has the win over Miami, who has a win over Notre Dame.

That It's going to be tricky.

But then do they have a loss to Georgia Tech in the title game, or do they have a win over Georgia Tech in the title game? I think, to Mike's point, last year, when the rankings came out, we were all screaming about Alabama and South Carolina and all these SEC teams. And then it turned out Alabama lost to Oklahoma in a historic and embarrassing fashion at the end of the season, which no one saw coming. So it is the beginning of November. I think I was being a little sarcastic about the loss at the end of the season. But I think that my bigger point is losing the weekend before the first ranking comes out is definitely one of the worst times to lose, I think, especially to a conference opponent that has three losses already, including two two Big 12 teams that are not even in the Big 12 race right now, TCU and Baylor. I think, yeah, it was a bad timing for a Miami loss. But also to Mike's point, they have not been playing well lately, and they need to win out and get very, very lucky, just like a lot of the other teams in that teens range.

I've got loads of questions for you. A month ago, everyone said Texas was done in the CFP, and they win against a hurtjump a tier, edge out Kentucky, need overtime to beat Mississippi State, almost collapsed.

Mississippi State is sneaky decent.

No, I know. Georgia is going to find out. It's dark Vegas. But Texas is back in there. I think the most interesting thing for me is the lack of discussion when it comes to the Big Ten and how bad the bottom third of that conference is. When you look at these spreads, a lot of good teams are getting fat off the bottom of this conference. And you have a team like Oregon, who's only favored by six and a half in a very tricky spot against Iowa. You have them in the top 10. They lost their only ranked game, their only game against a now ranked opponent by double digits at home. At home, yeah. Their best win is against Northwestern. I don't really understand this one. This feels like a reputation Big Ten propaganda machine.

And I wonder how much the Penn State win in overtime on the road is still counting towards Oregon's resume, even though Penn State has now been a much worse team since then, although they also lost their starting quarterback who threw the game losing interception in that game, Mike. Your point about Oregon, though, is well taken. So this season, they have beaten Oklahoma State, terrible team, Oregon State, terrible team, Rutgers, Wisconsin. It's just they haven't had to play very many tough teams. But This is where I also think that in a lot of ways, the end of the season, these things will take care of themselves, and especially with Texas, too. Texas still has to play Texas A&M. Texas A&M is the number three team in the country. That's going to be, obviously, a very important game. They also still have to play Georgia. They still have to play Arkansas. Arkansas, with their interim Bobby Petrino, head coach, has still given teams a really tough time in the SEC. Oregon still has to play USA, who is still ranked. They still have to play Iowa, like you said. They play Washington, who is ranked. A lot of these teams have the hardest part of their schedule still coming up.

So I think the first week of the rankings, you consider where the committee is putting the teams now, and it's informative of where things will head, but there still could be massive shakeups in all of this as these teams still have to play really hard conference teams down the stretch. The other thing is that I think the mega conferences are stupid. I think that it was a mistake to have divisionless 17 team conferences, and we are seeing just the evidence of that second year in a row. Why do you say that? It's so stupid.

Why do you say that?

Because if you want to compare Big Ten teams and common opponents just within the conference, a lot of these teams just don't have to play that difficult. Like Mike said, there's a lot of this Oregon schedule, specifically, there's a lot of bad teams in the bottom half of this conference, and you get lucky this fear that you don't have to play Ohio State. Ohio State is another team, Mike, let's say that they went out, beat Michigan, which is a big if given their history. What is their best win? I guess it's Washington on the road?

I guess it all depends on what happens with Texas. Right now, that was such a marquee game. I don't think people can disassociate that that was one versus two. At the time, it's weird because those are two big propaganda machines going there. But to answer Zaz's question, too, and supplement your point, last year, Indiana didn't really play anybody, found a way in the CFP just because the conference are in. Oregon's in that position right now. We have two straight years in the ACC where Miami is a well-lie, and they don't have the opportunity to play Georgia Tech. They don't have the opportunity to play Virginia. They did have the opportunity against Louisville this year, last year. All the teams in that mix in and play one another. I do think it gets mitigated some next year with a lot of these conferences moving to a nine-game schedule, though. Right, Jess?

I think it actually makes it a little bit harder if the conferences are not willing to play hard out-of-conference teams. If you look at a team like Oregon, specifically, I mean, their out-of-conference this year was pretty easy. Oregon State, Oklahoma State.

Why play anybody out-of-conference? Miami played everybody out-of-conference, and it doesn't matter.

I agree. I understand the argument against it, but I think the argument for it is that if you do lose a couple of games, having one of those wins is going to get you into the playoff. But I think that it makes it harder for the committee and for fans if there's no common power for opponents between any of these teams. But I understand your point if you think head-to-head doesn't matter. I would say head-to-head still matters, but Miami just couldn't afford to lose to a three-loss SMU team.

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Chris, you okay? That was the roughest play yet. You're going two nuggets at a time? Yeah.

We have an update, by the way. A text message, allegedly from Chris Cody, sent that outlined some of the fraudulence. There you go. Cut those big fried ones in half.

Hold on.

Who sent that?

Chris Cody sent it. To whom? To Fuente? I'm not going to reveal my sources.

Fuente would never have 200.

Why don't you check some of your unread messages?

Big fried ones in half. You basically, you not only announced it on air, but you also announced the strategy behind the scenes.

That's AI. Actually, this brings up a question.

What's the proper size of a nugget to make it a nugget and not a tendy? Thank you, Jess. Is it two inches? Is it three inches? What are we?

I think once you get-Are we standardizing the size? Three inches is huge. Once you start getting elongated, then it becomes a tendy. If it's mostly circular/oval in shape, that's a nugget. If it's mostly breading and air, then that's popcorn chicken.

I think it has to be... I think it has to have equal length and width to be a nugget, or at least slightly irregular. I can't have a much longer length than width.

Wait a minute. Did you say elongated?

Yeah, it can't be elongated.

The more elongated it is-It can't be a grower. That has to be somebody who's in a group text with Mike Ryan because you don't have that.

That could be anyone. He's in so many group text, as we all know.

He just got re-added into the chat because we took fireworks today.

Yeah, I needed a one-day guest pass to the shit chat. I got to see how this all comes out.

It's the Admirals Club.

It might roll over to tomorrow.

It might roll over for a week.

I was going to ask you if you liked my shirt in honor of the end of Eric Adams' mayorship of New York City. His lasting legacy. The rats don't run the city. We do. The rats are, sadly, quietly resigned, I saw.

The rats have resigned.

Which is unfortunate, but I don't know if they will be making a comeback now.

They're all moving to Miami with the rest of them that are upset with how-The rats? Yeah, we were getting rats, too.

I don't like that. Jessica, what was the mood in New York City last night?

The vibe was definitely celebratory. I stayed up late to watch the Zora and Mamdani speech, which was the latest that I've stayed up in a really long time. The time change, the older I get, the more it kicks my ass, guys. I went to bed at 8: 30 the other night. It helps that I can't watch Monday Night Football, but it was definitely celebratory. I don't live in the Communist corner, commy corner, as they're calling it, but even where I live, it was a strong holding hold for Mom Donnie, so very excited people out and about.

One of the perhaps most childish, petty, dumbest things I've seen on the Internet today was the legit, literal White House Twitter account, putting out a Photoshop of the Nix logo. Instead of it saying New York Nix, it says, Trump is still your President. Loser mentality.

The Dems repost it with comment with the two Nix fans with the L before the same thing.

I mean, the Dems are shit posting again, guys. Are we back?

Woke is back. I don't know if you guys know this. Woke is back. It was a long year. Put the genders in your bio.

Enjoy it for now. Rude Awakening coming next year.

Jessica, you're missing it. He's going to be speaking across the street from us here.

Who?

You know who?

Okay. I thought it was Mom Donnie for a second.

Mom Donnie, that'll be awesome. We're coming here next with Sharia law.

Look at how they've closed off the road. Yeah.

I don't know how anyone's getting home today.

All those cars are stuck there for nine hours.

Public transportation is how we're getting home, actually. All this for Rafael Nadal.

There was a very interesting thing that was happening in this mayoral election where Andrew Cuomo is obviously such a detestable human being, and many New Yorkers hate him, Republican and Democrat alike, because of his horrible governorship.

Because he was molesting, right?

He was a sexual harassment.

I thought he was just Italian.

Well, that's what he claimed. I almost wore my Italians shirt, but I didn't want that to come across as support. Anyways, I'm Italian. I can make Italian jokes. The third candidate in the race, Curtis Leeuwa, who, if this were a Miami race, I know this show would have had a lot of fun with.

We let that guy slide.

People were not standing him, I would say, but they were starting to just enjoy him being around. His debate answers were That's very funny. For a politician whose policies are fairly anti-democratic, at least Democratic Party, Democratic, at least, it was a very unique and interesting thing that was I mean, I think it was a very popular Halloween costume this year as well because of his signature red beret.

I'm telling you, in another time, in the era of the rent is to a damn high guy, and Curtis Leeuwa was around. Oh, my God, we would have had SNL things about him. It would have been the joke of the summer, basically of the year. It's just now things seem to be like everything that we joke about ends up being in charge of everything.

It's like, Oh, that's so funny. What if we accidentally elected him as president?

Yeah, which I could see.

This funny, weird guy from New York.

Chris Cody is in the kitchen right now.

He's kneeling over by the garbage can.

I don't think this is bit either.

I don't think so either.

I think he's really actually struggling.

Why doesn't he pace himself a little bit more? He can wait at least an hour hour until he has to finish it. You guys aren't that close to the end of the show.

You got 39 more, and he's got probably about an hour to go in show.

Just adjusted his belt.

The belt is gone. The dog is that. The belt's gone.

Oh, that's Percy.

That's Ethan's dog.

Oh, it's Percy.

Is his ACL better? Yeah.

No, he's following people around, and Ethan's stepping in shit, walking them.

I know you're thrilled, I mean.

Oh, my God. I miss Willow. This is how bad it is.

I'll let her know. She voted for Cuomo, unfortunately.

Jess, I want to play some video here for you. Do you think this qualifies as a Dabo crash out? And this is not going the right way. I'm curious to your thoughts on how this Dabo thing ends at the end of the season. Here we go.

I'm not criticizing. I can't tell you the game. I'm not going to say the game, but we're only allowed to turn in. There's a system of accountability, but you all don't know anything about it. It's behind a curtain. How dare we have accountability. In the meantime, we got gambling issues going on, people being suspended, all that stuff, right? Yes. I mean, reps are people, too. It ain't just coaches and players. If they're a part of the game, then by God, they ought to be a part of the game, and they ought to be a part of the accountability, and they ought to be a part of the consequences, not just behind some shadowy curtain. No, they ought to have to answer for it. Listen, there's judgment calls and all that. We just have to disagree to disagree. But there's also- That's not the same. Absolute flat-out misses. Yeah, but you ain't no public. There's no public accountability. You're none of that. So that's the system. The system needs to change. It needs to be changed. There needs to be challenge opportunity, and we need full-time officials. If you're going to have this type of stakes, needs to be full-time officials, and everybody should have consequences.

Shout out to who I think is Greg Doyle in the background typing, because I know that typing anywhere.

Clemson's a weird landing spot for him. Jess, your thoughts. For context, there was a very controversial defensive pass interference, which the replay appeared like it actually might have been OPI. In fact, everyone in attendance thought that Duke ends up winning the game.

By one point, yeah. I think he's honestly maybe doing a little bit of fan service there. I think his fans are starting to check out on this. This is the worst Clemson team in, I don't know, 20 years, at least since he took over at Clemson. I was trying to quickly look up their FEI ratings.

More than fifth in the preseason?

I mean, it sounds right.

Yeah, it's really bad. And it's neither side of the ball right now. It feels like there's best talent evaluations. It feels like the coordinator hires are definitely not working out. They were supposed to have this Tom Allen come in as the defensive coordinator this year. It's just been a mess there, and I feel like he's trying to speak to the fans and try to get them behind him and make them feel like he's still still cares, at least let them know he still cares and is still fighting for this team. But I also think he has some good points. I mean, if you're going to have legalized sports betting, this level of officiating, to me, sometimes when game outcomes are coming down to some really bad calls. And the ACC is even one of those league that's getting a lot of credit for the review room, Mike, which I know you've seen this season. So I think they're trying to be more transparent to at least give them a little bit of credit.

Here, let us show you how bad we are.

Yeah, I guess. There have been a handful of games. I understand his point. I think he's saying what a lot of fans are thinking.

No doubt. I looked at my friend after It was seven horrendous calls in Dallas. Again, Miami put themselves in that position where it was a one-score game and the refs had that much influence. Although, again, it was seven. It might have been a one-score game because of all the missed calls. Where I'm like, if they told me this game- Someone get him a I mean, come on. If they told me this game was rigged five years from now, I'd totally believe it. What else does it look like? That's what it looks like.

Yeah. But it's also not a college football-specific issue, which I think comes down. What he's saying about full-time officials, I think, is what a lot of people are thinking, right? We make this a full-time job so that it's something that the people can help the reps out. It's something they can focus on. I mean, I know you've done 100 podcasts about basketball officiating, too, so you can speak to it. It's obviously a humongous issue in the WMBA, women's college basketball, I'm sure men's college basketball, which I don't watch quite as much of, has a fair share of controversy as well. So I don't know what the right answer is, but I think he's definitely speaking to his fans and trying to show that he still cares about this team that is waffling right now and down the stretch.

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Okay, I'm sorry, Jessica. I'm been laughing.

It's okay. He's in such rough shape.

He looks terrible.

On the count, they just threw Pepto-Bismol out of him.

I think if Chris expired right now, Percy would eat him.

I got to tell you-You would look him like a little salami roll. This may not be the 60 count. It might be the 20 milligrams.

Oh, for sure. Absolutely.

For sure.

Hang on a second.

He gummied up.

Performance enhancing drugs.

Pds.

Oh, God. He must feel Awful. Just take a nap, Chris.

I don't know if he's going to be able to take a nap. He might choke on his- We did originally talk about 60.

If you lay him on his side, he won't choke.

60 was the mode on the list that we had before. We said that that would have passed by the 59. That was originally a passing grade of a D.

D is for done.

We're close. Look, there's still what? He's got an hour. Yeah, he's got an hour left.

I think he can get to the 99. I'm at a point now with Chris. You got this, It looks like he just gave me-I think the smell of nuggets will make him throw up. He just threw a double...

Mike is bringing the nuggets out to him now, and I think that might be the thing that sends him over the edge.

Back to work, player. Yeah, back to work.

Exactly right. Throws the Pepto bis.

There's one.

He's going right to the face. That's another one.

It's '61 now.

It's like a feedback. He just stuck his face in the plate.

Just to It's been a visual for the audio audience. Chris is currently laying down on his side on the couch. We have handed him a plate of nuggets, which he is slowly eating. It's rested next to his face as if almost like a telephone. Now he's just slowly eating. He's now at 62 nuggets.

I'm concerned. This is disgusting.

His face is getting rounder. He looks like a nugget with sunglasses on.

He looks like he's doing the Chris Reply guy meme again with the sunglasses and the hat. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah.

Oh, my gosh. Good stuff. It's called The Echos, her podcast. She does it with Mike Oleg Jr.

I didn't even send I'm going to give you guys my topics today. I was going to talk about Red Panda being back. Okay.

Don't worry. We're going to get to that. Huge.

Why not?

We're going to do it now.

Yeah, let's do it now. You know what? Yeah, let's do it now. What do you got on Red Panda coming back? By the way, I'm one of the people that say, You had a great career. You're doing yourself a disservice. Just stay retired. You come back, we're in the four, five. Oh, my God.

You can't go out like that. She's had a prolific career and I think wants to... This is her livelihood, right? You wanted to get her. You can't go out. But she did, and she came back. I think it's a great story. She performed last night at the Bulls game. About them Bulls? For the Bulls 76ers. Billy Donovan and Them Boys. What do you know about them?

Oh, man, I love everything they're doing. I love the way they play.

That's my gimmick.

You're absolutely right.

But wait, speaking of gimmicks, I've never heard this music before.

That's right. We got imaging now, Amine. You ready for this? You ready for another edition of You Know About That?

Yeah. No, we got imaging. Okay, let's do it.

All right, here we go. Amine, the Philadelphia 76ers last night, they lost at the Bulls. Joel Embiid was one for 10, with just two points in the second half. You know about that?

I do know about that. Not a great showing by Joel Embiid. He's still on a minute's restriction. He's trying. Last week, we talked about how the Sixers for the first time look like they have a positive activity beyond the Joel Embiid era. The problem is we are still in the Joel Embiid era, and he doesn't look good, he doesn't look healthy, but I don't know what good it is to keep trotting him out there for 20 minutes at a time. All right.

You know about Sixers. All right. I mean, the New Orleans Pelicans, they finally won their first game last night. God bless the Hornets. They beat the Hornets. No Zion, no LaMelo either. So we're in midseason form, both these teams.

You know about that? I know about that. Yesterday, Jessica, we were trying to figure out who Greg Cody is. There were some disrespectful people who called him the Adonis Haslem of this show. Oh, wow. I said he's the Zion Williamson because when he plays and he's healthy, he's amazing. Problem is, he's rarely healthy as he's under surgery.

We talk about his shoes way too much.

That, too. Yes. So Zion being out again, ham string issue. He's doing the Greg Cody, man. And at some point, you just have to accept that this is the submission you're going to get from him from night in to night out. Again, shout out to Greg Cody. He went under the knife today. We hope he's okay.

All right, Amine, you know about those Pelicans, clearly. Amine, the Oklahoma City Thunder.

We didn't even talk about Derek Queen, by the way, yesterday. Big game, finally. Big fourth quarter.

Joe Dumont has won that trade. The Oklahoma City Thunder, they moved to 8-0 for the first time in franchise history. They won at the Clippers last night. I mean, you know about them, Thunder?

I know all about them, Thunder. They're amazing. They're incredible. They're deep. The MVP is still playing like an MVP. We got new guys.

Jalen Williams hasn't even played yet.

Yeah, Jalen Williams has not played. He's recovering from that wrist injury. We got A. J. Mitchell, who has stolen the hearts and minds of a lot of basketball heads like Tony. Isaia Joe, too, by the way. Isaia, shooter. God, shooter. I love that his job is just everyone else on that roster. Catch and shoot. Him, I just shoot. That's all I do. Love the Thunder.

All right, you know about them, Thunder. Amine, the Boston Celtics.

Oh, man.

Lots of complaining the other night from Jalen Brown. What a shocker that if Jalen Brown is your best player, your team may not be that good. The Celtics dropped at three and five. They host the Wizards tonight. You know about them Celtics?

I know about them Celtics. Three and five doesn't begin to describe how bad it is. How bad is it? They lost to the Utah Jazz at home, and they blew a big lead. I know Utah is playing better this year, but not that much better for where Boston is having these problems. Meanwhile, Chris Cody is knocked out on the ground. The dog is staring at him. Remember Chris Cody, even walked his shit shoes all over that ground yesterday.

Why are they shit shoes?

Because he stepped in shit when he was walking his dog. Shoes? Yes. Then he walked upstairs and then realize it, and then washed the shoes in the bathroom after the fact. What? But he had already walked all over our floors.

Man, that's disgusting. Don't bring your dog to work. That's disrespectful.

Yeah. Thank you.

Can I just say really quick how different this segment's gone than how I expected it to go. What do you expect? I thought you were all going to yell at me. I thought you were all going to be really mad.

I mean, it's only the first week, Mike, right? At the College of World Play. This is week one.

This is a sports media show.

A lot of football.

People are irrational.

I'll yell I'll tell you a month from now.

Yeah. A lot of football to be played.

And you know what? I will also say Notre Dame, who everyone's going to be mad at because they're number 10, they still have to win out, and they still have to play Pit. And Pit is a good football team.

Let's remember the final week of the season, please. Let's remember that we all call Pit a good football team the final week of the season.

Well, if Notre Dame beats them by too many points, then they won't be a good football team.

Then they're not good. Then they're not good. And also, if Miami beats them, they're also not good.

Right. Well, yeah. Then they have four losses. They lost to West Virginia, Mike. I mean, come on.

They have to somehow beat Pit, but have Pit maintain their record.

And then they're in. I think the dog is starting to eat Chris Cody. I've seen it chew. I think Chris is just laying in there.

All right, I mean, last night, the Orlando Magic dropped to three and five after losing to the Hawks. Desmond Bain, who they gave up four first-round picks for, and a pick swap, is averaging career lows across the board. He was ejected from the game last night. You know about the Orlando Magic? I know about the Orlando.

Because a woman reff, ejected him. Same on him for injecting Bain. I actually don't know if a woman reff that game. I just assumed it was.

Safe assumption. It's part of the problem.

They lost to the Trey Youngless Atlanta Hawks, by the way. We got to point that out. Desmond Bane, career lows, but I think the biggest one is the three-point shooting. He's a career 40 plus % three-point shooter. He's been at 38 or higher pretty much every year of his career. This year, he's shooting 28. 6% folks. They brought him in because they have shooting problems. If the shooter can't shoot, this is the second year in a row, they went out and got a shooter, and that guy forgot to shoot. At some point, When is it Orlando's fault? Maybe they're doing something wrong.

I don't know. I say that to men all the time. Shoot a shoot. All right? All right.

They don't got a girl.

Shoot a shoot. I mean, you know about Desmond Baine. Finally got one more for your ass here. As Jessica mentioned a few moments ago, Red Panda made her debut. She broke her wrist. She fell last year. She made her return in Chicago at halftime. You know about that, Red Panda?

I know about that, Red Panda. I worry about that, Red Panda. She's had such a great illustrious Hall of Fame career. She's defied the odds and defied death and all these things. And then last year, she actually came back from retirement last year, and that's when she got hurt. I said, You know what, man? You were on top. Now you're just extending it. It feels very Michael Jordan, Washington.

She's a little bit of a compile?

Out of a compile, it's just like, you got to learn when to say enough's enough.

Yeah, but if Michael Jordan You'd have to have a goal. If you were to score 50 points last night, you wouldn't be like, Why did he come back? No, no. She still did a routine.

No, sure. Yes, she was awesome last night. But we're not talking about how she did last night. We're talking about, I'm worried about her. I want her legacy to remain stellar. I don't want... What if she gets hurt again? Then what we're going to say?

I don't think there's anything she could do to ruin her legacy at this point.

I think there's a couple of things.

Well, okay.

I guess Within the context of what she does for a living, yes, I don't think she could ruin her legacy. But I do think I don't want her career to end on a sour note, right? Because she got, God forbid, an injury worse than what the last one was.

Amine, you clearly know about that rep.

Oh, man. Thank you. Good job.

Excellent work.

Thank you to Jessica Smetana. Again, The ECHOES is the name of a podcast. You get it wherever you get it.

Hold on a minute. What? Chris went back there and gave 20 bucks to the studio team, and now the graphics says 99 Nuggets. What the hell is going on here? This is ridiculous. I told you guys. This is ACC rep level of corruption.

This place is riddled with corruption up and down. It's not just the Fuentes family. All five families in here, they're all corrupt. Sick of it.

There's a hundred bucks there. Louis had a hundo.

A hundo? Chris. Damn, Chris, you could have just came to me, man. I would have done 20 hours. This would have been easy.

Is Dan here? Where did that hundo come from?

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