Transcript of Local Hour: The MVP Conversation Bar

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Let's start with the good news. That's good news. That Cody is alive and well.

Okay, okay.

I know Everyone made it breath yesterday. We made a couple of jokes. People felt it was in poor taste. We didn't really get any confirmation from Greg himself yesterday. People were worried. But the good news is he's alive. He's awake. He's well. The surgery was a success.

But you said good news, so is there bad news?

There is bad news, man. It is actual bad news.

It's actual legit shit news.

Last night or early this morning, I should say, Miami Heat head coach Eric Spolstra's house burnt down.

For real, it's not one of those where the house caught on fire. Like a Tyron Hill situation. Eric Spolstra's house isn't there anymore.

It looked like the LA fires. Like burnt, done. I heard this story early this morning. I was under the impression that the team was still on the road. I'm like, Oh, that's messed up to have to find out on the news.

He probably got back home like the middle of the night.

He was there, yeah. They got back from the trip, and then the fire was reported at 4: 30 in the morning. The news video there has him outside his house, just standing there staring at it. I have a lot of friends who lost their houses in the LA fires. There really is nothing that you can compare that to in terms of that feeling that you've lost everything. It's not about the material things. It's not about... Obviously, Coach Spoe has made a lot of money. He can buy a new house. He can rebuild this house. That's not the issue. The issue is all the things that can't get replaced. Course. All the personal effects, pictures and memories and things. Obviously, when you your kid's favorite things, the report card where they got all A's and all that stuff, and that's all gone. Sometimes that's the stuff that it's hard to explain to a child or children. We can't replace it. It's done. It's gone. It was a memory, and now we've got to move on.

I feel terrible for him.

Yeah.

I really do. I feel like especially growing up, you all have that. Everybody thinks, If your house is on fire, what will be the thing that you grab to make sure it doesn't get burnt down. And of course, to me, it's my championship rings. But everybody's like, Hey, what would it be the thing that you grab? Well, you can grab anything. The whole house burnt down. It's gone. I feel awful for him.

At that point, it's more important to get your family and you out safely. Yeah, some things are irreplaceable, but also it's about being safe. There's things that are replaceable. Some things are not replaceable, but in the grand scheme of things, 5, 10, 20 years down the road, not going to make that big of a difference. The most important thing is everybody's safe. 100%. If there were kids in the house, kids are safe.

Well, you do assume it was just him, considering he likely got back in the middle of the night.

You never know, but at least humans are safe.

The news is everyone is safe. No one was hurt. You're right, Tony, that's the first thing you worry about. That's the first place your brain goes to. And you say, thank God. You say thank God, and you count your blessings. When do they play again? But then there's a thing they play tomorrow. But then there's a beat.

Oh, shit. We got to do everything all over again.

100%. Again, I hope I'm not speaking out of turn here, but Rachel Nichols house burnt down in those LA fires. And just the idea of her kids Having to adjust to living in a new house and the school, everything that they know, the Walgreens they went to, done. The school, the public library, all the things that was their life are done.

I think it's-It's like, all right, Where are you going to go live right now for the next however, maybe the rest of the season.

Right. So I guess my thing is when you're talking about kids, as adults, I think, I don't know if you went through this, Zaz. I remember before I had kids, I live anywhere. I live anywhere. I mean, that's not a great neighborhood. It's a great deal, though. I live there. And then you have kids are like, I don't want to live in this neighborhood. What's the school district? All these other things start to take precedent in the decision making. Course. So same thing here. It's like, if I were a single dude with no children and everything, my house burned down, I'd be mad. Obviously, if I lost personal items that can't be replaced, I'd be distraught. But there's a part of me like, Okay, deal with it. Move on. Next day, what are we going to do? What are you going to do? You're going to cry about it. It's gone. It's done. It ain't coming back. But when you have kids in the equation, that's a little harder. It's harder to tell them. You can't tell them to move on.

Yeah, I I mean, look, not to speak out of turn, he's divorced from the kid's mother. Who knows how often the kids actually live with him, especially during NBA season. But for me, it's more about like, that's all your shit. It's all your shit, and now you have no shit. And it's like, figure it out. And that to me is, man, that gives me Ajax just thinking about it.

Even if the kids are there every other weekend, that's still my room. That's still That's still the thing that I might have said. Should I take it with me back to my... I just leave it. I'll get it next time. And I was gone. And again, it sounds like I'm talking about material things, but we're not. No, man. This is real stuff, man.

It doesn't matter.

The emotional connections that people make, and specifically, that children make. That, as I said, an adult can move-And now you got to make yourself a new home.

That sucks, man. Yeah.

No, it's a tough situation.

And again, people can be like, Oh, Well, he makes a ton of money. He'll be okay. Well, of course he's going to be okay. But it doesn't take away from what I'm sure is a massive emotional toll that he is dealing with right now.

So prayers out to the Spolster family.

That's the worst thing, right? Outside of family members being sick or family members dying, losing your home is the next worst thing, right?

Yeah. No, I mean, yes. If we're the Maslow's hierarchy of needs, number one is everyone's safe and healthy. Boom. That's great. Okay. The next thing is shelter.

Yeah. Now you don't have a place to live.

I'm not having a place to live. Or for millions of Americans who are dealing with the government shutdown and the removal of SNAP benefits, being able to eat. These are the very next things on the human need hierarchy. Health, something to eat, somewhere to stay.

Schumer, shut down.

Our thoughts are with the Spolster family. I hope everybody's okay, both physically, mentally, and emotionally. But to add insult to injury, Bam out of bio got hurt last night. Foot injury early in the game.

Kind of a sneaky injury because I was watching the game and then it was like, Bam's not there, and it's like, Oh, he's hurt.

And I was like, Well, when did that happen? I didn't see that. Did they ever show any replay? Because it was mid-first quarter and Eric Reid was just all a matter of fact. Bam's gone to the locker room. He's a questionable return. I was like, Wait, what?

I saw one angle where he's just running up the floor and then all of a sudden pain. I don't know. We don't have the details as far as what exactly, what part of his foot. But obviously, this is a huge They're off to the heat. They're off to, despite what's a 500 record or whatever, a positive start to the season.

Really tough schedule to start the season.

Five hundred with the West Coast trip at the start of the season. That's pretty good. Jokuj took full advantage. He had seventh career game of 30, 15, and 15 plus.

That's a good player.

He's solid. Keep an eye on.

Mvp?

If we're... You know what?

Hold on. We'll slow down. Before we get into that talk, let me just give you guys a stat of the day. An early stat of the day.

Start of the day, start of the day. This year's start of the day.

Start of the day, start of the day. This year's start of the day. Start Start of the day, start of the day.

This year's start of the day.

Start of the day, start of the day.

This year's start of the day. So last night, Niko Ljokic led the Nuggets in points, rebounds, and assists, but also he was the high man for the game, even over anyone in the heat, in points, in rebounds, and assists. That's the 78th time he's done that in his career. That's the most by any player since the '76 NBA-ABA merger. Second place, LeBron James, 68.

So hold on. Let's run that back again. Jokić had more points, rebounds, and assists than anybody.

More points than anybody, more rebounds than anybody, more assists than anybody in the game. And he's done that 78 times. 78 times. And the number two guy on the list is LeBron, who's done it 68 times, 10 less times, despite playing, what, 11 years? More than Jokuj's play.

Good player.

Mvp? How good of a player?

The B. B.

Of the Day.

Zaz? Yeah.

I know there's fatigue about this guy. I know he's won a bunch already, but he's already in mid That season, playoff form. Nikola Jokić, my MVP of the day.

So if we're having a conversation about MVP, you got to include Jokić?

I have to. Even if he's not playing well, I have to include him because I know at some point he's going to turn it on and he's going to be better than everybody else on the court and in the league.

So right now, today, Joguj is my MVP.

Just to clear things up for me and the audience. Go on. Conceptually, is this an MVP of the day, like the imaging suggests, or are we still doing King of the Mountain style? Like, Joguj is still trying to climb over Haukes.

This is who is in the MVP conversation.

In the bar.

Yeah, that's what this is.

All right. So it's like, Maxi and Haukes.

If you've been listening, those guys have been in the conversation. They're all in the conversation. That's right.

Oh, okay. I thought it was king of the mountain style. You got to take them down.

No, the MVP Conversation bar, which is adjacent to this segment, but still, I believe we're all in the same canon, the same universe. It's a bar. There's a guy outside a bouncer. If you're not in the MVP conversation, you can't get in the bar.

That's right.

Right?

So for example-It's like the Heisman Club.

Yeah, a little bit like that. Heisman house. Like, Heisman house. Mvp of the day. Thank you.

I'll tell you what.

I'll give you an example.

Were you about to do it You know about those nuggets?

That's right.

I'll give you an example. Anthony Edwards, great player, has been in the MVP conversation for the last couple of years.

He's not in right now. Right now?

Bounce is out. Sorry, Big Dog, I can't do it. I haven't seen that fool.

We're full today.

We're full today. It's like, Hold on, check back with me. The Bounce is doing all that stuff.

I'm on Haka's list.

Well, I don't know if Hauke- Hauke has had a brief stint.

No, he got in. He got in.

If we're having a conversation on MVP. Hyme Hauke is in the conversation. Let me take that. He got there for happy.

Let me take...

Sometimes, Mike, you can get in the bar and they can inject you out. Yeah. You could be asked to leave. Is he at that point?

Has Hauke has already been asked to leave?

I don't think he's been asked to leave, but the problem is that Joguj came in with mad Serbians. So it's like, All right, we don't have that much space.

So Anthony Edwards is at the Velvet robe saying, You don't remember me? I spend a lot of money here.

Yes, that's exactly what he's saying. But you know what? At some point, maybe the bouncer says, All right, man, you got it.

What's your name? I want your name. This is going to be so funny for you. I know the owner of this place.

Just wait. The other part of the MVP conversation is the guys are in there. Okay, so you're in the bar, but they're all standing in a circle, and the guy standing in the middle of the circle, he's got a drink in his hand, and he's telling the craziest story, and everyone's just, Watch it. That's the guy who's the front runner for MVP. The closer you are to that guy, the more your chances of being MVP is. Maybe you're also trying to jump in. Hold on.

Sga was there telling the story, but the yogurt came in and said, No, wait, listen to this.

Listen to this, exactly. The farther you are out, you're in the conversation.

But you're an ear shot. You're not really saying anything. You're just listening. You're a listener.

So Hakeh, for whatever he was in the bar, he-It's peaking over the crowd.

Yeah.

He's just happy to be here. He's like, Oh, my God. I can't wait to tell everybody. I was at the bar, and it was Jokuj, and it was Shay, and It was Luca. And Wemby was there. Wemby was there.

He was hoping that everybody- I think right now the guy in the center that you're talking about there is Luca. Wow. Luca is the one who's doing Story Time holding the drink. But I'm going to tell you something. If we're going to have a conversation about MVP, we better have a conversation about Kate Cunningham. That's right. The Pistons last night improved to six and two.

Hold on. Hold on. He needs imaging. This just does not feel right without it. So there's two.

He's in the bar.

Mvp of the Day.

I mean, Flair was cutting a promo during commercial break. What are we doing?

If we're going to have a conversation about MVP, Kate Cunningham is in that conversation right now. What do you know about Kate Cunningham? I know about Kate Cunningham. You know about Kate Cunningham? Pistons are now six and two. Kate Cunningham, 31 points, 10 assists last night. If we're going to talk MVP, somebody better be talking about Kate Cunningham. That's somebody sounds like it's me.

Buddy, you know when I was talking about Kate Cunningham? When? Last year.

Okay. Last year is last year.

Yeah, but I was on the mountain already. Are you not familiar with his very high stakes bit of getting highly touted prospects and having the goal to say this guy might be good someday? Are you not familiar with that? That's your bit? That's my bit. That's his bit. I would lose that. He identifies a couple of people that he thinks have high ceilings, and he says, Watch out for this guy. And then when they're all pros, he pretends like he's calling him cowhert.

Watch out for this number one overall pick. Is that what you're saying?

There was a lot of people down on him. A lot of people didn't like the piss. He was hurt. I know. That's what I was saying. That was my point.

He's hurt. He's in the conversation right now.

He's in the bar. Let me tell you something. Coach of the Year, you better be having a conversation about Tiago Splitter.

How about career-defining win? Dude. Can you have a career-defining Are they putting Chauncey Billups under the jail?

From what I understand, Portland Trailblazer fans were thrilled that Chauncey's not the coach anymore.

I mean, it's a small sample, right? But this team is, as a great would one say, awesome. They just handed the defending champs to their first loss.

Man, with an asterisk.

You remember that game, too, in 2013? Check out. When LeBron blocked the interim head coach, the Portland Trailblazers, blocked him right at the rim. That shit was awesome. One of the best moments of my life. Yeah.

I hate Jónsi Billups. What?

Yeah. I hate him, too. From 2004? Absolutely should not be in the Hall of Fame. Absolutely not. Oh, you're nuts.

In the tier of opposing basketball team hate, Knicks aren't in my top two. Really? I swear. Really? And I hate the New York Knicks. Wait, who's one? Number one, and they did a lot to earn it. They did a lot to earn it. It was a Celtic. Really? Or number two, I hate Who did that Pistons team. Me, too. They were a roadblock for Miami.

Pistons over Nicks.

Dude, think of this Pistons team.

But is it Pistons over Knicks now because of your memories, or are you taking yourself back to the time and place?

Taking myself back to, and I had an intense hatred for the Knicks. That went for several years. But the Pistons thing went for several years.

It was only one year they knocked them out.

Yeah, well, that's true. But the Pistons- The Nicks knocked all out three times in a row. I disagree with you, Mike, here because I hated the Pistons, too.

Do you remember Rasheed Wallace's face?

It's a It's a stupid face.

It's a stupid face. Mr. Big Shot.

I hated the stupid face.

Be careful, guys. Tashon Prince.

I care about you. Don't you remember Pat Reilly? His shot is like snow falling off a bamboo leaf. That's the highest compliment Pat Reilly has ever bestowed upon him.

But the heat never got past the Knicks during that stretch. They slayed the Pistons, and they won the title.

But you're with me, though. Sneaky team in terms of the history of this franchise.

Oh, I hated those Pistons teams.

People would probably say Pacers ahead of the Pistons. I was like, man.

No, we We own that.

If you never lose to them, then they can't be worth it.

But it was always so close, though.

That's the thing. No, we made them believe it was close. It wasn't close. It was never a moment. It was never a time to eat. You weren't afraid of David West? They were down 2-1 in 2013.

The Dexter-Pitman start? The Dexter-Pitman start.

It got a little dicey.

You're going to lie to me. Tell me you weren't afraid of David West. You're going to lie to me right now?

Dwyane Wade went to Tom Crean. He ran into Tom Crean's warm bosom.

It got a little dicey. Down two games, one down by 10 at halftime in game four. It got a little dicey. I'll admit. Chauncey Billups should not be the Hall of Fame.

Absolutely is the Hall of Fame. I mean, Chauncey Billups, one time in his career was All-MBA.

One time. It was All-MBA third team, too, by the way. So you're telling me- We We don't split hairs on that. That's not splitting hair. It's a real thing.

You're all in the NBA.

Anyway, no, that's not true at all.

You're all in the NBA.

You're saying there's not a difference between all NBA first team and all NBA third team? Anyway, we'll table that discussion.

By the way, he's three-time All-MBA. Thank you very much. Really? He's a five All-Star. He's two-time All-Defensive team. He's a Finals MVP and gold medalist.

Was he ever all NBA second team or only checked up?

Yeah. I was emotional during those games, too.

I thought he was only All-MBA third team. Was he ever on B. A. Second?

He was All-League. Here we go. Sorry. Second team, second team, second team. Really?

He's never 13.

He was 13.

What doesn't matter? He's going to jail for life. He's 13. He's going to go to jail for life. He is the lead. He is a star witness for the FBI. Tiago Splitter. Tiago Splitter?

He's the guy with the modulated voice on Pablo's podcast.

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Speaking of the sound uuh. Here's a transition for you.

I'm waiting to see where it is.

What was going on? Not the-Steam Brussels Sprouts.

You're about to say not the Tony Romo sound?

Not the Tony Romo. That's a different... It's a little bit more elongated. It's a little bit more sensual. That's not where I'm going. I'm going more like a gutter, like an action. That was like a...

It's on there. You're just changing the pitch.

We're having a conversation, and Tony says out loud, this new Running Man movie, is it a remake? I said, You've never seen the Running Man. You've never even heard of it before this. So what are your impressions of the Running Man? Of what you've seen?

Bunny's running.

He's running. That boy's running. So I figured out what it was, right?

It's Forrest Gump.

With Bountygate, basically. I was watching the commercial, obviously, they play them on the NBA games or whatever, and I'm like, I like the concept. Basically, Bounty Hunter is chasing a guy for 30 days. If he eludes them, you make a billion dollars. Okay, I'm in. I like the idea. I like the story. So I asked, I mean, it's got to be a reboot, right? There's no way that this is an original concept that just made it to 2025.

The Running Man-Is it a remake or is it a sequel? It's a remake. It's a remake because the original, which came out in 1990, I want to say, was massive. It's the type of action movie that, yeah, man, the global audience love. It's right behind you. I want you to turn around. Yes, I'm the Running Man. Wow. Tony, however good or bad the new one is going to be, you have to watch.

You're telling me, O. G. Running Man was goated?

Goated. Wow. Goated. It's a TV show. It's pressy in a way because it's a reality show. Before, reality shows were big. Reality show, and people are like, We can either send it to you to death or you can star on the Running Man.

So is he a criminal?

He's framed. Of course. He's framed. Of course. And then they give him the choice. Do you want to... Execution. Or you could play the game. So he decides to play the game. But he's the best contestant ever at the Running Man. And the guy who's the executive producer of the show is like, No, we can't have this get messed up. So he starts cheating and increasing the levels of difficulty. Excellent movie.

1987.

1987's Running Man. Wow.

Richard Dawson was the game show host.

Richard Dawson was the game show host.

He really stretched his chop's hair.

Why? I thought, you know what? Richard Dawson was ass off Because he wasn't just a game show host, which is what he does in real life. He was a villain.

He also had the only Come Back to I'll be back that I've ever seen in a Strasnigger movie. He said, Only in a rerun.

Got his ass.

That's a good line.

So you're saying I got to watch the OG?

I think you should. I think you should. Maybe after you watch the new one, maybe before. I don't know. But I know you have to watch it at some point because it really is a fun movie, man. It's It's back when action movies were action movies.

Jim Brown was in there.

Yep, Jim Brown was one of the guys.

I think it looks cool. Man, you never seen Running Man. You've seen Running Man? Yeah, I've seen Running Man. Not the new one.

You're not allowed to do that. Why? You didn't see Rambo. After yesterday's hijinks. Whatever.

I've never seen Rambo. Who cares?

And we I heard something this morning.

What's that?

I'm embarrassed to say this.

Don't even say it. Don't be embarrassed. Don't even say it. It's embarrassing.

Zaz doesn't know about that 007.

It's crazy, man. I've never seen a single James Bond movie.

That's a suck of move.

That's a suck of move. What I tell you about call me a sucker? I agree it's a sucker move. I already told you. I've never seen a single James Bond movie. It doesn't even matter the actor. Here's the thing, though. Here's the thing. I know I would like them. It's not like I haven't seen them because I don't think it's good. I know I would like it.

Quantum of Solids Solace.

Those Daniel Craig jeans. I don't really care about the ones before it. The Daniel Craig ones, movies look awesome. I've never seen them.

Think about a movie called Quantum of Solace. I don't know what it means. I know it's the coolest name of a movie I've ever heard in my life. Quantum of Solace.

You've seen that Quantum of Solace?

Well, of course, I've seen Casino Royale?

Yeah, the movies look good. I've never seen it.

You never played GoldenEye?

Yeah, man. I don't know if I never played. I never had it. I never owned it.

You don't know about that GoldenEye? No, I guess not. That's the only thing that you need from the 007.

I know about Golden T.

No, Golden T is-I don't even know what that is.

Was it Big Dog Pimping?

Golden T is an arcade game where you have to get the ball, but sometimes the ball isn't properly-Oh, the head was at the ale house all the time. It doesn't have the right lubricity, as Braunström would call it. Golden Eye was the greatest video game of all time.

Specter?

Yeah, you can keep naming all the-Skyfall? I already told you I never seen them.

You don't know about that, Slappers Only?

That's not a real name.

No, it's a game mode. You can go Big Head Mode. What was the best stage? Complex, where you go Slappers Only, you climb through the vents, and you don't have the ability to have a gun. So the way to win the game in the Multiplayer, it's like elimination. It's like the Running Man.

You go up and you just-I'm sorry, I wouldn't spend all my time on video games. I was hooked up with girls.

In 1990-They were watching wrestling. What are you talking about? You weren't hooked up with girls.

They weren't hooked up with girls.

They weren't hooked up with girls, man. Are you watching wrestling as well.

Come on, no one believes that.

Zaz, in '97, there's a movie called Tomorrow Never Dies. Now, not only is that title, Cool as Hell, Tomorrow Never Dies. But the premise of the movie in 1997 was there's a billionaire who controls and owns newspapers all over the world. So then he just starts creating fake news to create conflict to fuel his business.

That's awfully foreshadowing.

That's what in '97. Wow. 1997. You got to watch that Bond, man.

Okay, so do I go back in time? Or do I just watch the Daniel Craig? What do I do?

They're different worlds, basically, right? You don't have to have-There's a multiverse in James Bond.

I know that. Of course.

There's eight different James Bond.

No, but it's a singular universe. Yeah. Everything that happens has- Is the 007? There's a 007, and it's just they film these movies in different time periods, so Bond has different tech. You have to suspend that disbelief.

Let's say I'm just going to watch the Daniel Craig ones. Do I have to start from the beginning? If I didn't see the one before, I'm going to be screwed?

I think the best thing to do is you pick an actor, a James Bond actor, and then you start from his first movie and go on. In other words, the pierce Brosnan ones have no bearing on the Daniel Craig ones. But don't start the Daniel Craig one with Casino Royale or whatever. That's what I'm saying. You want to start with the first... Actually, Casino Royale was the first one. You don't want to start with Skyfall. You start with Casino Royale, then Quantum of Solace, then Skyfall Specter, and finally, no time to die. My man said, Hey, man, you got to die right now. I was like, I ain't got time.

No time.

Let me check on my Omega. No, don't have it.

No time. And also product placement. Yeah, beautiful. They master product placement. You want to see that new Audi? Yeah.

You know about that Aston Martin?

I used to drive an Audi. Whatever. Just saying.

Good for you.

You don't know about that octopussy?

I know about octopussy. If we're talking about the same one, I don't know if we are. I don't know.

I mean, you were probably in high school when Golden Eye came out on N64. It's a moment in time.

I was definitely not in high school. How old do you think I am?

Dude, I was in college. I don't know. I was in college, and that's all we played.

You dress like you're 22.

There you go. See, I'm young.

But you are the living embodiment of the Steve Buscemi, What's up, Fellow Kids type of- Type beat.

Yeah, that's a vibe right there.

Type of energy.

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Speaking of video games, Donovan Mitchell last night had a video game type night.

He scored 46 points.

Darius Garland, finally.

Oh, yeah. Shout out to Darius Garland. Yeah, there you go. But here's the real transition. He credited his 46-point outburst to a kid that was talking trash to him on 2K the night before. And he was like, All right, you know what? I'm going to show you.

Because the kid said, You're washed. Man, those kids on those games, they can get your blood boiling.

They're nasty?

I don't even open the portal anymore. Just everything on mute, no headsets. Don't try to talk to me.

Am I the only one who's like, I don't want Donovan Mitchell playing 2K under his own name.

If you want to be-You need the burner?

Yeah, man. If you're Jack Spade, all right, that's cool.

But I don't want Jack Spade.

Spider Mitchell, 45?

Yeah, come on, man. And now it's like you're getting into it with kids online. Yeah, he scored 46 and ha ha. But it's just like, what if you had a bag in? First of all, he wouldn't tell us, but that could be going around. I knew it. I told him he was washed.

How many times did the kid told me he was washed, and he had a stinker the next game. We didn't know about it.

Exactly.

Is that an actual conversation? I don't know. I'm just jumping back in here on the sport. Donovan Mitchell seems like he's in his prime.

He is, but kids are kids. If you're 12 years old.

So it sees on an insecurity. He's probably asking himself, do I still got it?

It was pretty good last year.

He said, here's a quote, This kid pissed me off today. I'm sorry, it wasn't even the night before. This kid pissed me off today. I was playing 2K. I told him, too. I was like, Just wait, just wait. And he just called me washed up. He called me a bunch of things, but I love it. He's saying he ain't seeing a highlight for me in a minute. And I just told him, All right, we'll see. This game was for that kid or grown man. Whoever that was, I appreciate you. I told him I'd give him a shout out to.

He may have got catfish.

We need to find that guy or that kid, whoever it is. We need to find him.

Allison, can we get the kid?

Find the kid. They called him Washed.

Mitchell Washed.

But think about that. You're the kid, and then you see Spite of Mitchell, 45, or whatever his username is, and you're like, There's no way, right?

They can't be. How do you get them to prove it?

You're like, Yo, are you?

The voice, I guess. If you're chatting on the voice, you hear the voice.

There's no way this was a kid. That kid looks like Stavi, baby. Not a kid.

He was good in the movie, right? You went and saw that movie with that?

Yeah, Begonia? Yeah. Yeah, he was awesome.

He's coming down here.

Yeah, I keep getting ads for that. I'm targeted, I guess.

I'll ask.

That's your algorithm?

Yeah. What's yours? Boobs, man. It's a good algorithm. Yeah, not mine. But yes, Avi was incredible in that movie. Not a large cast. He really stuck out because there were five people in the movie. But yeah, he was great. That's a great... Emma Stone is just going to do this thing where every year she's like, I'm going to make a movie that'll get me in this conversation. I'm going to make a movie that's really weird on the surface. I'm going to make this like, yeah, that everyone comes away with that performance was incredible. That's just Emma Stone.

Isn't it amazing? Do you guys have that same feeling? She's a little Quai Leonard, Jimmy Butlerish, where it's like, the start of her career is like, Oh, yeah, it's a fun doing fun little kid movies. And then all of a sudden it's like, Yo, you're one of the best actors in the game?

Now she might play herself in a Jordan territory where there's Jordan MVP fatigue.

Oh, no way. No fatigue.

I thought this performance was better than Poor Things. I love this movie.

That movie looks so weird.

Poor Things? Poor Things. Poor Things was. I didn't really like it. You would think that it would be made for someone like me, but no, I understand why she won for her performance. She was very committed, doing crazy things in that. It's a lot like your algo. But this one's probably closer to Tony's algo in terms of the subject matter that they tackle. What's that supposed to mean? It's a post-truth type of film.

That's your gimmick?

Yeah. I don't know what's going on there. I don't know what that's supposed to mean.

The whole movie is based on these two guys kidnap this CEO who they are convinced- Begonia. Yeah, who they are convinced is an alien.

Why is it called Begonia?

That's her name, right?

I'm not exactly sure why it's called Begonia.

Do they say the word Begonia in the movie?

Does anyone go, Hi, He said it.

Is Begonia even a word?

It's like a plant. It's like a plant. My Begonias.

It's not like the planet that she's from or anything like that?

My petunias.

Begonia sounds right though.

I think Begonia is a Bird, right?

Yeah, there's a lot of Bs in it.

What's a Begonia? Here we go, Google. What's a begonia? Now, begonia is a genus of perennial flowering plants with more than 2,000 species. Native to moist tropical and subtropical climate.

Shout out to us. I don't get the reference, really. Maybe I have to watch it again. I don't really see a lot of plants in that film.

Does it happen to you a lot that you see a movie, you don't understand it?

I don't understand the title.

When was the last time that happened to you? Tenet.

No one knows what that means.

The stupidest movie.

This is the dumbest movie ever.

I watched that. Tenet, if you guys remember, came out in the middle of the pandemic, like the middle of the pandemic. I risked my life for that. In theaters. I said, This is the movie. You guys remember me. I grew my hair out. I wouldn't go to the bar. I wouldn't go out. I wouldn't do anything other day to go get groceries. That's it. I was living life like it was Mad Max. But I said, The one thing I will risk my life for is a Christopher Nolan movie with John David Washington. I was like, I'm there. I have never been more… To this day, I still don't understand what the fuck that movie is about.

Neither did it as Christopher Nolan.

I don't know.

It's the worst movie. Looked cool as hell in trailer.

It did. It looked cool. He definitely nailed the looking cool part of the movie.

Let's go back in the gun.

Stop it. But they're still talking forward. If we're moving backward, won't I? So stupid.

Who's the kid, Robert Penderson? Who cares? He gives his shit. This is bad. And he got the leads. Totally mixed up.

Oh, you think Patinson- Oh, John David Washington was done after that. It was done. It was beyond his depth, perhaps?

I don't think he had that much range. It never was. It was a great performance in Black Clans Plansman, right? But it was the subject matter. I think a lot of people could have played that role. If you watched Ballers, you're like, This guy's got his limits.

That was my problem. I'm watching Tenet, and I'm like, That's Ricky Jared, though. That is Ricky Jared. I can't see anything past Ricky Jared.

He started in five movies after that.

And they all flopped. Yeah. Plansman didn't flop. No, after that. After that. The box office has told you. What were they? Don't make them your leading man.

Is that one movie where he's trying to find the kid who is the key to life?

The creator? Yeah. It was a huge flop.

Malcolm and Marie, Becket, Amsterdam, the Creator, and the Piano Lesson.

I never even heard a three movies.

Malcolm and Marie was a good one. Sucked. Probably Malcolm and Marie. No, it was an artsy movie.

Amsterdam was a huge flop. It had a lot of people in it.

That wasn't him. He was in the lead, though.

No, no, no. That was a huge ensemble. That was just a big-time flop.

Tenet, not a big movie.

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