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Greg Cody is here to rescue us today, and he is in all of his self-promoting glory. He has come in with a piece of paper that has a website on it that is not real efficient in terms of website links. What is it that you're doing here, Greg, with this website as we go to you for our World Cup expertise as I believe the journalist in South Florida who has been covering soccer in this market the longest. I believe that you are the sportswriter expert in this town when it comes to soccer, as someone who covered them since the Fort Lauderdale Strikers were here. What the hell is that website?

Circa 1977. Uh, the website is CodyCup.TheGregCodyShow.com. With much credit to Yeti Blanc, my website, my podcast has formed a World Cup dedicated seperate website which has live updates on all scores. It's one-stop shopping for World Cup. It's got yesterday's results, today's schedule, tomorrow's schedule, and it tells how Yeti and Christopher and myself are doing against each other in our online pool.

So as you can hear the enthusiasm in Cody's voice, is there any particular reason you were yawning in his face as he said all of that?

I mean, like, it's very convoluted website.

Is it? Are you looking at it?

No.

Oh, then you're speaking out of ignorance.

But just you describing all the things that are going on, like you— okay, so you have the scores of you versus Yeti and you versus Chris. You have scores of the game too?

Yeah.

Games too?

Uh-huh.

Because people are gonna go to your site for the games rather than like ESPN?

No, we have the scoring rules. You go to, uh, it's doing good traffic. We've got, uh, just like today alone, we've got almost 500 —visitors.

You don't have to say the number of visitors. Just say it's good traffic.

From 23 different states and counting. But we have the scoring rules. You get a point for every goal scored. You get 3 points for a group stage win. You get 1 point for a group stage draw.

Zazz is yawning again. He's— and Chris—

It's a good website though. I'm on it right now. Very clear, very concise. You get to see all the scores. You get to see the legend of what the scores mean.

Thank you.

Tony, he just got done telling me that as soon as I go to that website, I'm going to start yelling and firing people here because they didn't I'm surprised you didn't come up with the idea first.

Yeah, it's a great idea. And it's super well-executed.

A website with World Cup, that's a great idea.

It's tracking our draft, Yeti, mine, and Christopher's draft and how our teams are doing.

Chris is in last, by the way.

What's that?

Christopher's in last.

It's a big day for me, though. Big day for me today. I got a lot of my teams playing.

A bad day for me. I could have zero points today because I've only got one team in play, and it's Algeria against Argentina.

This is another form, though, of you having an interest in you in a way that I don't think is interesting to others.

I just told Tony here, I'm in this pool and I'm so uninterested in this topic.

I mean, it's like you created a site for your fantasy football league believing that anyone outside your fantasy football league cares about your fantasy football team.

No, but here's one of the things that's great about Greg Cody in general. The sports columnists gift is usually to be able to tell what's interesting to others. Greg does not have that ability. It's only what's interesting to him. He doesn't care whether others are interested. He just assumes because it's him that people will be interested. So this is your World Cup fantasy team experience where you're like, hey, you guys want to know what I think and how my teams did? Because here's a website devoted just to telling you what I think about the World Cup and also yesterday's results, which you can get literally anywhere.

Well, I just told you that the day has just begun and there's already been more than 500 visitors, so there are—

Your son just told you not to say that as a brag when it's that few as a number. He knows that you're proud of that number. That's not that proud of a number to be.

My dad does this with tweet, like likes on his tweet. My tweet got 128 likes. I'm like, that's not Not what we're looking at.

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Greg Cody is radiant because his face is a part of the "Football Is Back" intro. His cartoon face is super implanted poorly on the head of a very young soccer player, Jeremy, has been sent to the post office here locally. We will check in with him to find out what is the truth about stamps.

With Danny B awkwardly walking behind him.

Greg, can you please tell me what you think a stamp costs? Because yesterday we were talking about this and we showed our ignorance as a show. I didn't come anywhere close to what a stamp costs. Jerry Seinfeld does a pretty funny routine on the Postal Service in general, in which he says, "In order to not clog our roads with their inefficiency, it would be better if postal workers transitioned into just opening the mail, reading it, and then emailing us what it says." [LAUGHTER] And then we can send them an amount of money for that. When you consider the fact that a stamp actually gets something from one place to another country or another state, it's actually a great value at almost any cost under $10, given— that none of you would do it for $10. I wouldn't be able to get Uber, Uber Eats, or some driver to do it for me. So I think it's actually an exceptional value. But Greg, what do you think a stamp costs?

If I had to guess, and I don't know, I can't tell you the last time I put a stamp on an envelope, I would say 75 cents.

That's very close to what it is was surmised yesterday. The last time I had used a stamp, it was 38 cents. So I was surprised to hear that number. I don't believe it. Believe that number. It's why we've sent Jeremy to the post office. I don't think you can video in a federal building, but we're going to try and see if we can.

You absolutely can.

He should try.

Okay, we're going to try and see if we can get him imprisoned while he's walking with Danny B. Danny B does look like a suspicious henchman behind him, uh, the stunt Danny.

Danny B's muscle.

Yeah, he looks like really short security. So, uh, Jeremy, can you, uh, can you hear us? Uh, are you close to the post office now, or, or where are you in these proceedings?

Dan, I am approaching the post office as we speak. You're about to see someone walk out of here right there. That's a post office employee. You can see United States Postal Service. So what I'm going to do is not get arrested. I'm going to go ahead and walk in there. I'm going to ask one of these postal workers, one of these kind people working for the federal government—

You don't know that.

Something that should be properly funded, whether or not the stamp has increased, how it's increased over time, how much it would cost for me to send a letter. I don't know the answer to any of these things.. So I will report back in just a couple of minutes once I've got the answers. Anything else you want me to—

So you're not going to do this live for us? You're just going to do the reporting and then come out and inform us? How did it go over when you went home yesterday and admitted to people who love you how ignorant you are in general about stamps because you were unaware of just about anything related to stamps? You didn't even understand that you had to pay to send mail.

Yeah, that's right. So I knew that stamps cost money and I processed that you had to put a stamp on a letter. I never thought about the fact that if a package or a letter weighed more, that you'd have to pay more for it. I've just always like gone to the post office and sent out packages or gone to UPS and sent out packages. So when I told my wife about this conversation, and I didn't necessarily say like on the air, I did blank. I said, hey, have you ever thought about how much a letter costs and the fact that, like, you're paying to send mail? Like, my wife loves me a lot. The look of disdain and disgust that she gave me is not something I think I've ever seen in our marriage. So today's about saving my marriage.

He thought it was like a buffet where you could just stuff as much shit in an envelope as possible. Yeah, that's exactly right. Close the envelope. That's the price.

I think that's one of the best bargains in America, is sending a letter across the country for a buck or less. Who's complaining about that? Not me. I overstamp. I intentionally overstamp. I put 2 stamps on an envelope even if there's barely anything in it, just because I don't want to be, uh, you know, flagged for, uh, not enough postage, so I overstamp.

You are permitted, by the way, to take photographs or video for news purposes in publicly accessible areas like entrances, lobbies. At the Postal Service, so you can go inside videotaping yourself.

All right, I'll do it.

Okay, let's see what happens.

I'm gonna go wait in line.

Okay, and we will find out.

Just mention my name.

One of the worst lines in all of lines.

The post office is sad. Put it on the poll at Levitard Show. Is the post office generally depressing?

Now that I think about it, you know how many people in my local post office are on FaceTime, on WhatsApp? Like, all of them screaming at each other with no headphones on.

Greg, where are you? We will get to Giannis and Giannis developments in a second because things are heating up all over the place. There are a whole lot of people talking. And now, this is an interesting report from Windhorst where he is saying the Celtics are on Giannis' list and he'd be willing to extend his contract if he were traded there. His representatives and him have tried to have a seat at the table during the process with the Celtics, and the Celtics say that makes them feel uncomfortable to have Giannis in the middle of that. I would assume that has something to do with Jaylen Brown's feelings.

Yeah.

You know, like once you get into this kind of muck, I'm guessing that Jaylen Brown is already hurt and you run the risk of him wanting out of there because this is something that he could take as insulting, even though I I don't think it's insulting. Giannis is a better player than he is, but I don't think that Jaylen Brown looks at Tatum and says, that's a better player than me. Like, you may think that, I may think that, but I don't think Jaylen Brown thinks it.

Right, which is more— which do you think is more insulting then to Jaylen Brown? The fact that they believe that Giannis would be an upgrade over him, or that it's him that they're considering trading as opposed to Jason Tatum?

It's not an insult insult that people would think Giannis is better than Jaylen Brown? What insult is that? Do you think that Jaylen Brown would have won with Chris Middleton as his second best player? Do you think that, that he would have won a title? Like, I don't— I, I don't think it's insulting, but all this stuff becomes personal when you're talking about the ego that's at the top 1% of the top 1% of fighting for money.

We talk about it's gonna become— like, I feel like it already is.

I think it is too.

The fact that his, his name is already being floated out to be traded to Portland, to Atlanta.

Well, and he mentioned something on, you know, he loves Twitch. He mentioned something on his Twitch recently, uh, the, the best of Jaylen Brown's yet to come, uh, wherever that may be.

Uh, that's not true. I mean, most players are formed by 29 years old. He's 29 years old, and while that's not old, he's not going to improve a whole lot. We can agree, right, that a basketball player's prime is in his 20s? It doesn't mean that he can't be great in his 30s. Giannis is 31 and is coming off of one of, uh, one of his best statistical seasons, even though I don't think anybody would argue that it was one of his best seasons.

LeBron's doing great things at 40.

Oh, well, yes, okay, but he's a total outlier.

Jeremy, give us an update from the post office there. And speaking of what it is that happens with the stamps, one of the things that used to happen to me is when stamps were 36 cents, they would then increase the price. And I didn't have 2 and 3 cent stamps, so I was paying 72 cents in order to make sure that my mail didn't get sent back to me. I was putting two 36-cent stamps together and essentially paying 72— double the price. Yeah.

Yeah, over-stamping.

But I just think—

You gotta buy those 1-cent stamps and you pop them on for when the rate adjusts.

I'm not kidding you, Zads, when I say this is one of the greatest bargains there are in America at the wrong time because email has made this so that it doesn't have any value. But the idea that for change that many people no longer use, like I'm not even kidding you when I say The amount of times I see people with change not know what to do with it and just leave it for whomever because they don't want to have a bunch of coins. I see it in areas that aren't just rich people doing this. Like, it's not an abnormal thing for people to not have any use for change anymore.

I keep change in my wallet right now.

You have coins in your wallet? First of all, you have a wallet?

You want me to get my wallet and show how many coins I have in it?

Yes, please. Give me a second.

First of all, having the— having of a wallet is something that they make fun of me for, but I've never had coins in my wallet. @LevitardShow, please put on the poll, uh, do you judge somebody who puts coins in their wallet?

So Zazz just has a big-ass wallet with coins, like multiple coins?

Nobody keeps coins in a wallet.

I don't, I don't think it has to be a big-ass, uh, wallet in order to have pennies and nickels and quarters in it.

No, it's got to be a big ass. I'm going to show you my wallet really quick, Dan.

You have a wallet too?

I have a wallet.

Why do you guys make fun of me for having a wallet?

I never made fun of you for having a wallet. I do have a satchel though.

Tony's got his wallet in his little pouch that goes across his chest.

Yeah, you never know what's in here.

It's gotta be a real wallet, Tony. It's a fanny pack. Not one of these thin metal things. Look, this is the one I have. Yeah, that's not a wallet.

That's a clip, Tony.

This is not a clip. There's no clip anywhere. There's no clip anywhere on this. It's a wallet. Look at that.

One of those modern day—

Yeah, that's a man's wallet right there.

Yeah, I got a wallet.

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Why would you want to be doing this show?

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Roy and Tony have the stylish, modern usage of, I have my credit card here, I have my smart things, I can have my entire life life on 3 cards. Uh, Zazz, me, and Cody are doing it old school style, old man wallet style.

My back hurts just looking at all 3 of your wallets.

Big ass wallets. Wait, now do you— okay, this is an important question. Do you keep your wallet in your back pocket or your front pocket?

Front pocket.

Yeah, front pocket. I don't understand people who do the back pocket.

I do the back pocket.

How do you sit down?

You know, you learn. I mean, your, your buttock, uh, adjusts.

I'll never understand that.

Uh, put it on the poll at @LevitarShow. Wallet front pocket or back pocket? Uh, how much change? Anybody want to take a Guess at how much change. This is real weirdo behavior from Zazz, keeping change. You guys think I have it wrong when I say a lot of people just don't have any use anymore for coins? I told you recently the story of actually dealing with somebody when I was paying for something and she showed me a nickel and she said to me, "How much is this worth?" Yeah, come on. No, I'm not joking. I can't make that up. Like, it happened and I was just stunned by it but there's been a real—

Just said $100.

There's been a real disregard for change in this country.

I got something, I was at, I was at Publix the other day and something came out to be like $3.01. So I was like, all right.

I always got that covered.

I was like, you're going to give me 99 cents worth of change here? Cuz I got $4, you give me 99 cents worth of change? I was like, how about you do this, how about you keep the penny, you give me a dollar back?

And she did.

That's when you switch to an electronic payment. If it's $3.01, I'm— if I was going to pay cash, now I'm going card.

No, I give a penny.

Wait a minute, what is Tony doing there where—

Not making sense.

I got the dollar back. Tony, but your math— you tricked somebody because you—

That's right.

You were due 99 cents and you said you keep the penny, but you didn't give them a penny. Like, they—

Yeah, no, I know, they gotta eat that one. They eat that one. She gave me the dollar though.

But that's not—

Tony wins again.

Okay, but that is Tony winning. Has the penny been discontinued, correct? You can't— they're not making any more new pennies.

They're not making new ones, but they still count. Yeah.

You guys want to take a guess before we go back out to Jeremy? Let me see Jeremy, please, in the picture-in-picture to see what's going on with Jeremy. But do you guys want to take a guess as to how much change— Zazzle, how are you going to do this? Do you have— because neither one of these wallets has a pocket for change.

I mean, I think mine has a pocket for change. I've got— I keep my change.

I've got 45 cents here, a quarter, a dime, and 2 nickels.

This is not a pocket for change. Sure it is. No, it isn't. This pocket in here? That's my change pocket. But it's your change pocket. Is that what's— everything's in here? Anybody want to take a guess as to how much is in here? 65 cents.

It's usually the drugs pocket.

He's got a couple bucks in there. He's got like $1.50.

Oh wow, that is definitely more than 65 cents.

Is that it? Is there one more?

Is that it?

It's, no, that's it. Are you disappointed?

My daughter would be so good at this game. This is what she's doing right now in school.

You gotta have pennies in there, no?

Oh look, it's some hanging out. Come on, Dan.

My daughter could tell you how much change is there.

Guy refuses to have pennies.

Zazz has, let me see, it's more than a dollar. It's 75, 85, 95, $1.05, $1.16.

Wow.

That one penny, that one penny just in case.

I always like the game, it's a fun game to me when like you buy something with cash and like it says on the, you know, the change, it'll be like $3.76 is what it costs, but I'm gonna give $4.01 'cause I want the quarterback. And it's a game where it's like, is the cashier, is she gonna understand the math? 'Cause it doesn't say it on the screen.

Yeah, but Tony, Tony, you—

That's why I get the dollar back.

No, but you tricked a cashier.

Tricked is strong.

Yep. You, uh—

I asked her to commit corporate fraud.

You dabbled in fraud. I was gonna go even stronger than just tricked. You should get an employee fired by a manager. Let's go out to Jeremy here. Jeremy, go ahead and give us what you got.

Thus far, guys, I have nothing. I have been waiting in line, and I'm going to ask the kind woman here in just a moment. I'm next in line for the price of stamps and how much they've increased over time.

I mean, you were just talking to someone, so we thought you—

Zaslo, are you Are you snorting because so far I have nothing?

This is how post office lines go.

Yeah, he's right on it right now.

It's funny though.

At least people aren't looking at him in there.

It's funny. Next we should send him to a library and other places where he's gotta be loud. Like send him to a—

Definitely no one's talking in that line.

Send him to a church service. So quiet. Ask him, ask him to go in the confessional booth. She's on the phone now. All right, Jeremy, raise your hand when you have something here that you think is worth going to you on because you're in the picture-in-picture.

Thank you, Dano.

And I don't want to go to you again and have you say, "So far I have nothing." I moved 6 inches.

Just visually, though, watching him be awkward is great.

Actually, you know what?

One line.

While we're out there among all those people, Jeremy, in a quiet line, why don't you give us all of your Marlins enthusiasm on how it is that they should have— Great idea, Dano. —4— how they should have 4 All-Stars this year.

Oh, Dan, I'm so glad you asked, and I'm so glad that these people are going to get to hear the propaganda I have to spew. For, for All-Stars for the Marlins, Max Meyer, that's an obvious one, and he's going to be sent in by the coaches, by the players. That's how it works for pitching. Okay, the biggest arguments that need to be made are for Otto Lopez, Xavier Edwards, and Liam Hicks. Now, Otto Lopez Was 5th in shortstop voting in the first round of voting. That's ridiculous. He leads the league in hitting. He's hitting near .600 in clutch situations. He has been the best shortstop in the National League. CJ Abrams is great.

Mm-hmm.

Okay. That's totally fair. Can I ask you off camera? Can I ask you off camera and report back?

Mention my name.

I literally just need to ask you the price of stamps.

Okay, but I don't need to—

You won't be recorded.

—pick up because she's just instructing me not to answer any questions if you guys are recording.

Okay, we will not be recording. I will literally hand the microphone back to my camera person here.

We just—

You will head out and I will ask you questions off air.

That's too bad, Jeremy, that everything got derailed there by you committing a crime. We will get back to you with whatever information— he's so embarrassed by this.

He's so good at it. Anyone else rooting for Hanchett?

Terrific, thank you very much. He's so good at etiquette.

I appreciate that.

So good at etiquette. He is red-faced. And oh my God, he's mortified. Red-faced with etiquette. But he's just mortified.

This is my actual nightmare.

Got scolded.

So, uh, a woman at the post office has told me that her boss has informed her she cannot answer any questions on camera. She can also not answer how much How much? The stamp has increased over the span of time, but she can tell me that right now it is 78 cents. So investigative journalism at its finest. Otto Lopez should be an all-star, and we should use the weight of this show.

We need to send him back in with another question.

I'll come back and advocate for that.

Uh, Zads—

I'm not going in with another question.

Go to a library.

Zads— I will not do this.

He's great.

We have to send him back. Send me back to the show.

Go to a stamp factory.

He's so embarrassed.

I can't believe you guys did this to me. I can't believe it.

Ask her if she believes Otto Lopez should be an all-star.

Yeah, that'd be a good question.

All right, I'll go back in and ask.

Do you still lick a stamp or are they adhesive tape now?

Here we go. He is the person here who would be most mortified by everything that just happened there.

Here we go, he's going back in. There he is, he's in.

Yeah, but he's—

Oh, he just gave the stiff arm to the camera.

Oh no, Danny B, you gotta—

We don't know what he's doing in there.

Run through, Danny, go Danny, go! We don't wanna be, I don't know what the consequences are to doing federal felonies. Go to Jeremy, not you. I see this on my algorithm all the time.

People get mad in there, but you are allowed.

I asked the 3 people in line if Otto Lopez should be an All-Star. All 3 said, "I don't know who that is, I'm sorry." Okay, very good.

Hello.

Very good. Thank you, Jeremy. Good work by you.

Hello.

Yeah, whatever. Appreciate your work. Yeah, Otto Lopez is—

Do you think Otto Lopez should be an All-Star?

Uh, sorry.

Yeah.

Sounds like a no.

This is funny. What Jeremy just did is funny. My wife yesterday, this is not a joke, okay? She's exercising. On the beach and a reporter for the World Cup comes running at her and wants to interview her about the World Cup. And she doesn't know anything about the World Cup and she just starts running from him. And so he starts saying, "I'm from Argentina." And she's like, "Yeah, there are a lot of people here from Argentina." She's running from him because all over South Florida, there are report— international reporters—

Headphones.

Who are looking for— turn off his microphone, please— who are looking for just anything World Cup-related flavor. Greg Cody, You were at the game. You were at the game last night. Everything was covered up. There was everything because, because you're not allowed to have sponsorship. That's not the official sponsorship of the World Cup. It's not Hard Rock Stadium. It's Miami Stadium. And what are some of the other things that you're seeing out there? And what did you feel last night as our soccer guy?

Yeah, there was nothing like, like the Coke machine. Doesn't have the word Coca-Cola on it anymore.

Really?

I mean, FIFA, I mean, I'm using an exa— I think Coke actually might be a FIFA sponsor, but I'm using an example of that. Yeah, FIFA's ridiculous. Miami Stadium, it should be called Generic South Florida Athletic Facility. I mean, it's crazy that you— I call it Hard Rock Stadium just to tweak FIFA, but it's—

I heard they were bothered by that.

Yeah, they were bothered by that. They're gonna revoke my credentials.

Essential.

I saw at a— in a press box in California at one of the World Cup games, they were literally— had tape over the brands of like sauces and condiments in the eating area for the press. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Nothing— not a public area.

Commissary?

In the commissary, the eating area. Like, this is absurd.

By the way, I want to say that the crowd was great last night. Uruguay came out strong. They had like 85-90% of the crowd was Uruguayan. Uruguayan supporters. But the capacity was not quite met. It was a crowd of about 2,000 less than capacity. But that's pretty good for a 6:00 PM weekday start. You don't have an illustrious team in there. Uruguay's only World Cup titles were like in the 1930s and '50s.

The first one, I believe.

Yeah, the first one, and then like the fourth one. But it was a great crowd. Not many Saudi fans there. Yeah, but you know, they— but listen, there's only like 3,000 native Uruguayans living in South Florida, so they traveled for this game. But Saudi Arabia did not so much. But it was a great game. It was— Saudi Arabia was thrilled with the tie, Uruguay was disgusted with the tie, and that's the way the World Cup works.

I feel like people were complaining a lot about yesterday's results because they were all draws, but there was some good soccer yesterday.

Oh, I thought the game— I thought the goalkeeping at the game yesterday here was unbelievable. It was a great game, I thought.

Well, the Saudi goalkeeper had 9 saves, which is a huge number for World Cup. Incredible.

Well, but the goalkeeper of the day was Cabo Verde, right? I guess it's pronounced Cape Verde. Is that how we're saying it in English?

Yeah, that's us.

Cape Verde.

But their goalie is, what's his name, Vosina. He's 40 years old, and the idea that they tied Spain, Spain one of the real world powers, and everybody He found out about that goalie yesterday. See, what's happening here with the sport is, of course, you're going to get a lot of complaints about 4 draws yesterday because it's people who are coming over to the sport for the first time, a lot of them, who want to be interested in it. Obviously, the people who love soccer think all of that is fascinating because you're talking about stakes. And once you put stakes on something, it almost doesn't matter that Game 5 of the NBA Finals was a terrible game, 94-90. If you put stakes on something and make it it worldwide enormous, of course people are going to lap it up. But 4 ties yesterday, if you're trying to entice the newcomer and a couple of them are 0-0, that's a hard way to do it. Like, no matter how much you tell me it's a beautiful game and there were a lot of chances and a lot of corner kicks and a lot of saves, 0-0, it's going to be hard to convince an American that a 0-0 game of any kind was a good game.

Football game, baseball game, any Well, basketball game, obviously not, but any kind of 0-0 game, you're going to have a hard time— even Zazz, who loves defense— you're going to have a hard time convincing people who don't love or like soccer or know anything about soccer to appreciate the strategy in 0-0.

Well, but that's the most talked about game of the World Cup tournament so far, was that 0-0 game. The idea that Cape Verde would have a draw draw against a Spain team that had been the betting odds co-favorite along with France. Now they're second. You know, they're certainly still going to qualify, Spain is, but Cape Verde came out of nowhere. And Curaçao almost won a match, and they're the smallest team in World Cup history with a population of about 150,000. Those are the— that's the beauty of the World Cup is that the powers don't always win. Germany—

Curaçao lost 7-1.

They lost 7-1.

What are you talking about?

I'm telling you guys. —head to— they lost 7-1.

They lost 7-1 to Germany.

Guys, guys, my dad is right. It was 1-0 and they got a goal.

You can't say they almost won.

Oh no, I don't— I'm sorry, I thought he was saying it was a cool moment because them— Curaçao getting a goal against Germany, this is their first World Cup.

He said they almost won.

Okay, I'm sorry then. I'm sorry for defending him. I just meant that was a cool moment though. Curaçao celebrated that one goal in a 7-1 defeat like they had just won the World Cup.

And Germany's an international power. For Curaçao Somehow the smallest nation ever to appear in the World Cup to have a 1-0 lead is a big deal, whether you recognize that or not.

But you did say they almost won and they lost 7-1.

Yeah, I misspoke.

It is wild, though.

I don't keep track of every single final score. That's why—

Well, your website does.

Yes, of course.

The power of the World Cup, though. Vosinha going from 50K followers to 6.3 million over a couple days is pretty insane.

It is, though. So, and I know it's very soccer, and I love soccer, but it is always gonna be a weird thing when you watch Spain and, and Cape Verde, and Cape Verde is just so excited with the result. A 0-0 draw, the result, and they're celebrating. Like, if you're just so— if you're like the casualist of soccer fans, you tune into World Cup I was like, how are you celebrating?

Well, nothing happened. I'm going to go ahead and guess. You guys are going to have to look up some of the history of this for me. I'm going to go ahead and guess that that's the biggest sports moment in that country's history. Just the fact that they tied Spain.

Right now.

That there is no other sports moment that that country has.

They got a point against Spain.

That would, that would come close to the stunning result because that is a stunning result. Spain— he just mentioned betting favorite, but Spain is an international power that's always one of the betting favorites. So it is— if you can look up some of the history for me, any history you've got, because I don't know anything about what the country's history is with sports, but that's why they were that excited.

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Da libertard!

All right, we gotta go back out there. That was big. Pick him up.

Uh-oh. He doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that as a result. He needs something that happens.

You can see him mother-effing out. He says, "Can we bother you right now?" Turn on your microphone, Greg.

My microphone's on.

Stugatz.

Paint the scene.

The paint the scene is I gotta go to work. Good night.

This is the Don Levitar Show with the Stugatz.

Getting back though to what's happening locally here with the Miami Heat and Giannis Antetokounmpo as, uh, he asks in the age of player empowerment to have a seat at the table with the Celtics and the Celtics being uncomfortable with that. Should they be? Because some of the reporting here is about about the delicate feelings of Jaylen Brown, and I don't know what the Celtics actually owe Jaylen Brown here. If Jaylen Brown's job is to get better, it's the Celtics' job to also get better. And if they can get a better player, that's the business of how all of that works. And while it's human to be upset by that, and it's human to want to be appreciated by the people that you brought a championship with a Finals MVP— Mm-hmm. It's also not paying attention to what all these guys say about— I know this is a business. I'm well aware at 29 years old that I am partaking in a business that pays me $300 million for what it is that I do, and I am still a commodity no matter how much they pay me.

Yeah, I think both is right. I think he's allowed to feel insulted if they're thinking about they could get better without him, and it is also absolutely the Celtics' job to to get better without considering the feelings of the players. But this is— this always brings me back to, you know, the NBA player in particular. The NBA player loves to talk about, you know, when either if it's free agency and they move on to another team or they request a trade even though they're under contract with said team, and the NBA player always falls back on, "It's a business. It's a business." And when the team decides to do business, like in this case, nah, that becomes very, very personal for the player, and then feelings get hurt.

Right.

Dan?

I mean, in this case, real quick, in this case, Giannis, he's playing both sides, right? He obviously wants out of Milwaukee, but he's going to throw flowers and beautiful prose at the city of Milwaukee when he does leave, you know, so he can have it both ways. I don't think he's going to leave a villain. I think he's going to leave one of their greatest all-time players.

Insulted? Insulted. You think Jaylen Brown has a right to be insulted that the Celtics would sniff around about how to get better?

I don't— no, I don't think he should, but I get that he absolutely will. The player is always— especially, I won a championship with you, I was Finals MVP, it's insulting to me that you think you can get better without me. I don't think it should be insulting. They will be.

Okay, but let's examine this for a second, because I'm not willing to go to insult. I'm willing to go to hurt. I understand why that would hurt. Insulted doesn't make any sense.

I think they're the same. I think those are the same thing.

Oh, but they're not because when you're hurt, you think your employer cares about you in a way that is— this is not a referendum on Jaylen Brown not being good or not being valuable. It's no insult to trade for an immortal. Like, when all of this is recorded at the end, Jaylen Brown's history will not be what Giannis' history is. That's no insult. That doesn't— sorry, Jaylen Brown, you're not one of the top 50 players who have ever played basketball. Like, that's— I'm not insulting you by saying that.

And that's never going to be the way he sees it.

Right.

Never.

Yeah, pain, hurt, and insult are both a product of ego. I mean, his ego is bruised and he hurts and he's insulted.

Jalen Brown, you, you come up to the lie detector test right now. Who is going to be better the remainder of their career from this day forward? And Jalen Brown's gonna swear to you that it's him. Swear to you. He thinks he is better moving forward for his team than Giannis without a doubt.

Good news, Dan. Cabo Verde's, uh, successful emerging basketball program is one of the top emerging programs in Africa. Africa. They had a historic victory that qualified them for their first ever FIBA World Cup in '23 when they beat Venezuela 81-75. Walter Eddy Tavares stands 7'3", emerging player out of Africa. Very good for Real Madrid.

Again, I, I just wonder which is the more insulting part for Jaylen Brown. Is it that they believe Giannis is better for their team than he is, or is it that, wait, why are you moving me for Giannis and not Jason Tatum. That, I think, is— I think that's the better question, right?

It's understandable. He just— Jaylen, he thinks he just won a championship for them. I mean, he was the main driver of that, of that Finals, right?

I just don't think that anybody listening to this or anybody who's watching basketball would make the assessment in the comparison between Tatum and Brown that Brown is the better player. And again, not an insult. They needed both of them to win the championship. Jaylen Brown did a lot of improving for Boston. But I don't think you're taking any inventory, and I agree with Zazz that the confidence of these people, they're not rewarded for being weak, okay? You believe you can overcome all odds, you climb over an assortment of things to get to the very top of the sport. You need your ego as a function, a weapon, and as fuel to get all of the things that you want. You can't lack confidence doing what these people do. But that self-assessment, while not delusion, is inaccurate. Like, anyone making the measurements on this sort of thing would say that the Tatum future is better than the Brown future, unless you're counting—

Even coming off—

yeah, well, he just came off this— I guess if you're counting— okay, if you're, if you're now a doctor as part of the diagnosis and Brown can say he knows what Tatum is going to be going forward coming off of that injury, I suppose he could, he could assemble that argument. He could also look at this season and say how good they were during the regular season. Season. He could also say we were doing fine and we would have beat the Sixers if Tatum hadn't come back. He can say that. It wouldn't be true. They won the championship because they needed both of them. But it is what happens when you get Finals MVP. There aren't a lot of Finals MVPs outside of maybe Andre Iguodala who have sort of an awareness about, um, hey, I didn't win that because I'm the best player on the team. I won that because I was the guy guarding LeBron when he was taking 40 shots a game and I bothered him some. And so they ended giving me Finals MVP. But generally, if, if you win Finals MVP, like that particular trophy, it's not, it's not the trophy that the team wins.

When you win Finals MVP, it becomes something that is a validation for every delusional thought that you have had about your greatness. Like, you feel like you have on your mantle case— like, if I was Jaylen Brown, I was the Finals MVP, I would put it as the hood ornament on my car because it would be how I present to everybody on— at the very most important moment, I was Jalen Brunson for a season. I was indisputably, as voted by the people who are expert, the most important thing. And it ends up validating every single thing that you think about yourself, no matter how many people have told you— doubters, critics, any other thing— they've told you that you're not good enough or you're not as good as you think you are. Like, he wins the argument with that, right? Right. He thinks it's an argument ender.

Yes. Yes.

It shouldn't be a think, it should be a yes, because in the biggest moments, you stood up taller than everybody else and made something happen.

Yeah, I mean, a Finals MVP means you are the ultimate clutch in the biggest stage, and you always will be. You always will be an NBA Finals MVP.

I do believe they're in a— if they're not there yet, I think they're really close. 'Cause I know you're saying the Celtics, they're uncomfortable right now with a seat at the table directly with Giannis because of what that could mean to a player who maybe they don't want end up trading for Giannis, and that being Jaylen Brown. I, I think they're close to a point of no return where even if— because Jaylen Brown strikes me as a pretty sensitive guy with this kind of stuff. And if the Heat are the ones that land Giannis, I don't think it necessarily means that they're not still going to move Jaylen Brown.

If you're Giannis, aren't you insulted that you can't get a seat at the table with Boston? Like, you want to go to Boston if, if they're that sensitive positive about another player that they won't— it isn't Boston making an overt effort to woo Giannis when they don't give him a seat at the table, right?

Again with insulted.

Yeah. You know how fragile the egos of players are? You don't think they take insult from, you know, being the subject of trade talk or in this case not being allowed to get a seat at the table with a team you're considering going going to? I'd be insulted by that.

Can we just talk about how angry Heat fans are going to be if he goes to Boston?

Oh my God. Especially because they're— Heat fans— the Heat's been linked to Giannis for what seems like 3 years now.

And then the Celtics just swoop in and get him?

Yeah, that's ridiculous.

Better assets sometimes, that happens.

Is it ridiculous? What's ridiculous about it? Because Jalen Brown is better than anything the Heat are offering. Like, Jalen Brown is better than anything the Heat are offering. I am interested in the conversation that Cody's bringing up So what is Giannis entitled to if you're thinking about an extension with a team? Like, you guys are thinking a seat at an actual table. He just wants to be a part of the discussion. We're not talking about an actual table. We're talking about, I want to be involved. I want to talk to the people who are involved with my future before I sign for 4 years in a city that is historically racist and is bad to some of its players. I would like to talk about who— About who and what I'm going to be working for. Like, what is that, an unreasonable request from somebody of his caliber? Like, I don't, I don't think it's— I don't think it's insulting for them to decline. I understand why they would be uncomfortable with that, but it's that tension again. This has shifted in a way that's really interesting to me. Damian Lillard, it used to be a guy went where he wanted to go, like, that wasn't that long ago.

And then that the whole thing shifted with Damian Lillard, and now Giannis is saying, wait a minute, you guys won't even talk to me? Because you're afraid of— you guys won't even talk to me about, about what my contract is going to look like, and I'm already telling you I'll sign an extension there.

Otto Lopez has the most hits in baseball, Dan.

Enough with you.