Transcript of A Monumentous Moment For Pizza Crust Consumers | Hour 2 New

This is the Dan Levatar Show with the Stugatz Podcast.

You guys were talking about the greatest albums of all time earlier, and it got me thinking about something that allows me to, instead of like throwing topics at you that nobody cares about—

Good.

Am I, am I good to just be like happy about something for a second? Is that cool?

With a time constraint, but sure.

Okay, Roy, Roy, do you have a music bed potentially for me to just feel happy? Yeah, that's perfect. Thank you.

This is your theme song.

Yeah, I want to feel some joy here because I experienced something this morning that is one of my favorite feelings, which is waking up and knowing that one of my favorite artists has new music out and knowing that I can like wake up in the morning and listen to it right at the beginning of the day. My, my favorite band is Bleachers, led by Jack Antonoff. Hold on, I'm being happy. Let me be happy. Give me a minute. My favorite band is Bleachers, and they have a new album out. My, uh, I got engaged to one of their songs. My wife and I saw them on our 10-year anniversary, and they have a new album out today. And so I got to wake up and experience listening to that for the first time while I was on my bike ride this morning. And on top of that, Olivia Rodrigo, my favorite pop artist right now, has a new single out. And so I got to experience both ends of that coin. Not, not just having the best music.

Time's running out.

For my, my artist, but also, uh, another artist on top of that. It's an incredible feeling. I love being able to, to savor those moments. Guys, I think that's ultimately worth a toast. And worth a toast is presented by Cuervo.

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Good job there, Cuervo. Less of a good job, Jeremy, but it was a means to an end.

Alright, so even experiencing joy, not a thing I can do here.

So tonight we have the Thunder and the Spurs, Game 3, as that series shifts to San Antonio. Before we get to that here, I do want to go back to last night's game. Last night's game was kind of a dud in the second half.

Like, the first half was fun, it was tight, but there was a moment where a lot of New York's sphincters were very tight because all of a sudden you saw the workings, We saw the foundation of a comeback by the Cavs that Mike Brown smartly called a timeout and basically stopped Uncle Moe.

Interesting, using a timeout when it seems that one team may have a little bit of momentum.

Exactly right. And the game was at what, like 16 or 18 points, and all of a sudden it started getting chipped down, chipped down. At one point it was 7. That's when Mike Brown called the timeout and said, hey, wait a second, I'm learning from Kenny Atkinson and making sure that I call a timeout to stop whatever's going on here. And then they end up to blow a— get a 20-point lead.

So the Knicks, they take a 2-0 series lead last night, but I don't know if you saw this after the game. Josh Hart, Josh Hart's meeting with the media. He's there with Carl Anthony Towns, and, and Josh Hart, not a big fan of, of analytics. We know analytics have, have taken control of sports. More information is usually a good thing. Josh Hart, not really into it.

I'm never a huge analytics guy. You know, at a certain point, they're a lamppost to a drunk person. You can lean on them, but it won't get you home. So at a certain point, you got to have a good feel for the game. I'm not gonna lie, that was Gerald Wright, his quote, man. So shout out, Jay Wright.

Wait, hold up. No, we're not moving on from that.

That's a great quote. Analytics drunk. Lean pose to a jump rope? It ain't gonna get you home. You can lean on it though.

I was with Cal, so I didn't hear that.

You ain't even go to college.

I, uh, I agree with him essentially, you know, if we, if we get back—

which part? Cat didn't go to college?

Yeah, well, yeah, obviously, but the part about it being, uh, you know, you can lean on it but it's not going to get you home. Yeah, analytics are good, analytics are good for, you know, information tool, but Analytics can't possibly take into account everything that is going on in an individual, uh, uh, basis. And yeah, I, in general, I agree with him.

Analytics said also leave Josh Hart open by like an average of like 10 feet.

He was great last night and he hit 5 threes and was incredible. And he started off rough. I think he was 0 for his first 3 last night. And it's like, and you could almost like, you could hear the groans a little bit at the Garden. You've been terrible, you got benched game 1, you're getting open shots now, you keep shooting, you keep missing. But he ended up being fantastic last night.

Yeah, hitting shots, making big plays down the stretch, getting big rebounds. Like, he did the, the typical Josh Hart thing that everybody loves in New York. And a lot of the analytics were like, Asoua Thompson, like, let's let him shoot, let's let him do his thing. And they try to do the same thing.

Good job plowing through that.

Yeah, it's just try to do the same thing over with, uh, with Josh Hart and just didn't work.

Asoua Thompson.

Now this is a really loose team. Tell me a team is loose when Josh Hart brings an entire pizza— New York pizza, everyone loves New York pizza— when Josh Hart brings an entire pizza into the postgame availability there with Karl-Anthony Towns. He had a very important question as Tony simmers on the pronunciation of Pistons forward Asar Thompson. All right, you, you sit on that, Jeremy. And wow, what kind of face are you making? What is that?

Seething face.

Jeremy's not going to sit on anything, buddy.

You're right.

His bike, listening to Olivia Rodrigo.

Yeah, love a good bike ride in the morning.

How about Josh Hart though here? Uh, very important question, by the way.

Let me just interrupt you real quick.

Really good. You had your time, Dave.

Dave, go ahead.

I'm curious. I mean, the analytics thing, I, uh, of course they're, they're valid, but also they take away from future visceral joy of big-time moments, big-time playoff games, coming through in pressure or failing in pressure. That's what analytics failed to really capture. Either way, the discussion that I think people are trying to talk into reality is that the Knickerbockers might win the title. Do you buy that?

I do buy that. I mentioned this yesterday where I thought Game 2, all the injuries that are starting to take place between the Spurs and Thunder, I think is a pretty significant thing for New York. How could it not be if these two teams are going to play a 7-game series, which they might? And look, we'll learn tomorrow if the Eastern Conference is going to be a long series or not, but what if the Eastern Conference is a short series and the Western Conference is a long series and, you know, players continue to drop like flies out there? Already Dylan Harper, De'Aaron Fox is hurt. What if players continue to— Jalen Williams— and then you have a healthy Knicks team that is there waiting for whichever team is left standing out West? Yeah, Dave, like I I think the Knicks can win the championship.

Touché, Zazz. Touché.

So Josh Hart straight up eating pizza during the postgame press conference. Very important question for Karl-Anthony Towns.

Oh, are you a crust guy?

It depends if it's garlic crust.

Okay. Are you a crust guy is what Josh Hart asks Karl-Anthony Towns, and Towns responds with, It depends if it's garlic crust. Now my first question there is, do you think Karl-Anthony Towns is saying it depends if it's garlic crust? Because if it is garlic crust, he then is a crust guy, or does that make him not a crust guy? Because my question— my initial thought there is that he's not a crust guy if it's garlic, because garlic gives you the breath, and he may be self-conscious of that. Because he would have garlic on his breath.

I feel it the other way. I think he's saying like, depends if it's garlic, because if not, that's trash.

You're saying it depends if it's garlic because garlic is great.

Yes.

And then it's worth the extra carbs because I love garlic crust.

Interesting.

I don't know how it's garlic crust.

Sorry, Dave, let me interrupt you. I don't know if it's worth being worried about the carbs if you're Karl-Anthony Towns. I think this is more a flavor palette type of thing. Some people just don't like eating the crust.

Jeremy, uh, uh, excuse me, Tony, how you doing over there? You alright?

Still not happy about the whole situation. Mike's writing it down, he's gonna give me a note at the end of the, uh, end of the show. He's gonna say Tony can't speak, which is true.

Yeah, that was, that was, you heard us there.

It was a great point, poorly delivered.

No one's gonna remember the point, they're just gonna remember the pronunciation. I never understand, Dave, I never understand when you're eating a pizza and you got homeboy who just— he leaves the crusts on the plate. What the hell are you doing? I'll never understand that. I've, I've never done it in my life.

Wow.

That's people, that's people who choose to just survive instead of truly live like you and me do, Zazz. That's why, uh, that's why we get along. But what is— go back for me— I, I'm aware of one, you know, mid pizza maker, uh, that does garlic crust, but is that a thing that is become universal and I'm not aware of it?

Uh, I don't—

a lot of places offer garlic crust.

Yeah, I think most places offer, especially the chains, they all—

chains do.

Yeah, yeah.

See, this is why you need the sauce to dip it in, the garlic sauce in this situation that you can dip maybe a bare crust into.

How, how do we feel about stuffed crust? The crust that has the melted cheese in it.

Love stuffed crust.

Really?

Love stuffed crust.

'Cause for me, I don't do stuffed crust. It doesn't wind up tasting like crust. It's too soft and doughy.

You're a nuts man.

No, no, no, I think you're on your own on this one. I'm not gonna overreact to the really nasty thing you just said 'cause you're having a hard enough day with your pronunciation from Asure Thompson, but stuffed crust That's the kind of pizza that I would leave the crust out. I would not eat that. That's not for me. Dave, how say you?

Well, listen, I think you touch on an interesting subject here. Some things sound better than they actually are. The sum does not equal the parts. Samoa cookies, obviously Girl Scout people know that one. The Samoa sounds good because it has everything in it, but when you bite it, it's mid. I've had a similar experience or had a realization recently. Fajitas sound great, and I can get duped into them once every half decade or so on the menu. I'll look at it, that sounds good, all the stuff. Oh, oh, they're sizzling! Oh, I'm the belle of the ball! Look at that, everybody out, all eyes in the restaurant are on me as I get delivered my, uh, my, my plate with the smoke coming off of it, and it smells so delicious as it passes by every table. And how will I as I put my princely meal together. This, maybe this one is gonna have some green pepper in it. No, maybe some onion. You know what? Maybe both. But then you take a bite of it and you're like, eh, it's all right. It's not that good. I should have just gotten a burrito.

Fajitas are top of the heap when you're at a restaurant and someone else orders the fajitas and you're like, damn, I should have gotten fajitas. Second place, and I haven't been to Burger King in a while, but when you order the fries And I think they do this on purpose.

They put the one onion ring in there. Yep, there's always one. They want to let you know what you're missing.

I guarantee you they do this on purpose because you're like, damn, I should have gotten some onion rings too.

The onion rings at Burger King are so good, and it's like they're telling you, you're missing out on this shit. What are you doing?

They don't lead with them enough. They should. It is the distinguishing feature from their arch rivals. Arch, get it? Uh, the, uh, that they should be celebrated. We have onion rings, they don't. What are, what are you even doing here, right?

You should be able to order fries with the one onion ring and the order should be called the onion ring.

Oh, now that's worth a toast! That's a great idea!

Give him the liner again! Wherever!

Can we read the liner again? Read that liner!

All right, all right, all right, all right.

Onion ring worth a toast!

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I would die. I don't know where it is. This is the Dan Lebatard Show with the Stugatz. So tonight, Thunder and Spurs Game 3, series moves to San Antonio.

Tiramisu is also overrated.

He's right, absolutely right. You are correct, 100%.

Thank you. There, there, by the way, there are 7 dozen versions of tiramisu. Sometimes it can be like in a pudding, sometimes it's a cookie, sometimes it's like a slice of cake. All suck.

Hmm, what about—

they don't suck. They're all, they're all C. They're all about like a C+. It's that powder. It's the cocoa powder. It makes you cough a little bit. What do I want that? I want to—

he's right.

He is right. It's about like having a beignet. Yeah, you're always gonna have a little cough before. You don't like ladyfingers?

No. And I— listen, I like good dessert. I like a flourless chocolate cake if you—

what are you, 1,000 years old?

What are you, old man?

Yeah, bread pudding.

I'm a man with, uh, with, with fine taste. By the way, the in the life resume— and everybody should put together their own life resume— at the top of my resume is best order of food I've ever known in my life. I've no one— I'm not talking top 10, not top 5. I am the best order of food off of the restaurant menu I've ever known in my life. There is not— I'm top 10 remote control handler. I do some things great. I'm a great Connect Four player, so on and so forth.

But you lost in front of everybody.

What's that?

You lost Connect Four in front of everybody.

No, I didn't. What are you talking about?

Mike beat you.

Oh, I lost. Oh, that's fine.

I devastated him. I humiliated him.

Bad day for you, Zev.

My boss.

Your punishment, eating tiramisu and fajitas.

So if I were to ask you, do you think that the Oklahoma City Thunder in Game 2 were physical with Victor Wembanyama? Like, what would your initial answer to that be? Do you think— and Tony, you're allowed to talk again, even though you mispronounced Asaah Thompson very badly. All right, you'll be okay. You'll get over it. Would you say that they were physical with Wembenyama in Game 2? I mean, because Hardenstein— Hardenstein didn't play very much in Game 1. He played a lot in Game 2, and, uh, he was very dirty. Would you say that they were physical with him?

I, I don't think he was dirty. I think he was physical, and that's what they needed from him.

Well, he was dirty.

I think he was physical.

Uh, Hardenstein wasn't necessarily dirty with Wembenyama, but when he's pulling the hair of Stephen Castle, like, what do you even— even if he didn't try to pull his hair, what are you trying to grab? Like, what are you pulling? That's not defense, grabbing, you know. So it was weird.

Agreed.

But there was a lot of, a lot of elbows being thrown, a lot of arm play, a lot of like grabbing the arm and not letting them go.

You know about that arm play, Dave?

I, I do think that going back to Ricky Williams, if you have long hair like that and you're out there in a contact—

but you're allowed to do that in football.

I, I, I get it, but you cannot really charge somebody if your hand gets tangled up in your wildly long hair. You can't then cry foul because somebody got tangled up in your web.

But you know you're allowed to tackle in football and not basketball, right?

I get it. I'm just— I, I'm making— I, I'm with you that they were very— I, I think what you're getting at is that they were physical with him, right?

I think so. So here's Charles Barkley. Here was Charles Barkley last night inside the NBA on ESPN, and I heard— I, I hadn't heard anyone say or, or give the opinion that Barkley had here on the way they defended Wembanyama.

I watched the whole game.

Hey, nice flex.

Well, I was going back and forth between that and the hockey game, not gonna lie. You people at home and on TV talking about they were physical with Wimby. Man, y'all need to stop it. I've been kissed harder. Hardenstein— I love Hardenstein, but he just put a body on Wimby. It wasn't overly aggressive. It just—

he didn't hit—

there was no excessive fouls. But for you people thinking that's physicality, y'all need to shut the hell up.

I mean, the hockey has been really good, Dave. Like, you could understand him flipping back and forth between the hockey and the basketball, right?

I mean, listen, I don't want to get up on Mount Pious, but I'm with Nick Wright on this. I do not get these guys. I love Chazz Barkley, obviously, but I do not get these guys celebrating the fact that they don't love watching basketball. It's just bizarre to me that they consider themselves so untouchable that this is the declaration they can make. And like, so what? What are you going to do about it? Like, I don't know. I would love for you to be consuming the subject matter that we're all indulging right now. How about that?

I don't care that the series shifts to San Antonio tonight. I feel like I don't have a pulse whatsoever what's gonna happen in this game tonight. Like, this is the kind of series to me, it does not matter if they're playing in San Antonio, it doesn't matter if they're playing in Oklahoma City. I think both these teams are gonna be great. I think it's gonna be a war the whole game.

The question is, is there going to be a guard that's going to be healthy and bring up the ball for San Antonio? De'Aaron Fox out, talking about a high ankle sprain where it's gonna— it's gonna be hard for him to cut laterally. You got Dylan Harper who's out with now an abductor issue. We don't really know what it is. It's not a strain, it's not a sprain, we don't know. And Stephon Castle's had 20 turnovers in 2 games.

Wemby is going to need some legitimately legendary performances if they're going to pull off the series.

Well, you know, so someone asked me yesterday, right, if if does Wemba Nyama need to be— does Wemba Nyama have to have MVP performances in order for the Spurs to win the series? And I'm like, yeah, I mean, they're, they're going against the defending champs who have the back-to-back league MVP. Yeah, they need Wemba Nyama to be the best player on the floor at least 4 times.

Been the whole thing all season, right? That's been the storyline headed into this series is can Wemby summon, right, the MVP effort. Yeah. Game in and game out to overcome what seems to be like the most overwhelming team in the NBA by a decent margin.

And the thing was that the Spurs supporting cast has been really good all season. And so there was an elevation from Wemby, and you were looking at it as like, okay, maybe this is a relatively even matchup. Look at the way that they played. But now with the injuries they've faced, with the turnover issues that they have because they're playing against the defending champs, a team built to last, like, you're gonna need not just MVP performances, you're going to need some of the best individual playoff performances we have seen in a Conference Finals for them to be able to win this series.

And he did that in Game 1, and it took them 2 overtimes to do it, and a legendary performance. 3 guys have done it, but they led most of the game, you know.

It's, it's not like they came from behind and they won.

Like, they, they earned that game still, but so it took a monumentous effort from Wemby to even get that in double overtime. And like There has to be, there has to be.

Slow down, slow down.

I can't slow down.

Monumentous.

It took a monumentous performance.

Yeah, let's look that up, see if that's right. Because there's words I, there's words, there's words I remix.

Yeah, sometimes.

I'm saying there's words I remix sometimes and it works.

Wiktionary.

Thank you, Roy.

Hold on.

We're looking.

Doesn't seem like Wiktionary believes it's a real word. Let's see.

Quora.

That doesn't help. Merriam-Webster.

Okay.

Hold on.

What does she say?

No, that's momentous.

Momentous.

Yeah.

AI is doing like a non-standard hybrid word combining monumental and momentous.

Yeah.

But it's not generally recognized in standard dictionaries.

That can't be true.

Keep looking.

All right, I'm keep looking here.

Pat Riley doesn't care that much, that's the good news.

Charlamagne tha God on Facebook says monumentous is not a real word.

What, what does he know?

Yeah, there you go.

Sorry, Tony. Yeah, what was the point I was trying to make?

Wow, you turned your mic off. All right, just, just get mic from him. Just focus on, focus on regrouping for the next few minutes.

I'm masculated.

Yeah, you'll be okay.

Oh man, monumental move there by Mike Ryan.

Sorry, sometimes you got to take the ball away from the starter. Oh, he didn't want to come out of the game. That's all right, I call the shots.

You took both his balls.

Yeah, Dave, you were fired up earlier this morning. So I saw yesterday on Twitter how— the reason I was tipped off is because I didn't see it on television, where the guys on ESPN were talking about Aaron Rodgers. All right, and you know Rodgers, he claims it is his final year.

He's back!

He's gonna play for the Steelers again this year.

That's right, he's back everybody!

That's right, and he has said it is his final year, and I saw the guys on ESPN were talking I guess they were— maybe Michael Wilbon was not speaking as highly about Aaron Rodgers as WWE Hall of Famer Ric Flair would expect Aaron Rodgers to be spoken of, all right? So Ric Flair got very, very upset. And apparently, though, you, Dave Dameshek, you are a little bit upset as well.

Well, I'm not upset. I do point out all the time, because we're caught in a weird place where the youngs like Tony, they tend to, you know, be prisoners of the moment on occasion, but the olds lionize the past to an irrational degree. And now John Elway, I guess, counts. It's surprising to me that he's not an old-timer. I guess he now— because I'm an old man, he's now in the distant past too. But Michael Wilbon asserted that John Elway is obviously a far better athlete than Aaron Rodgers is, and my reaction is, what the hell are you talking about, old man? They're, they're both high-end athletes. John Elway was a supreme one. Obviously he almost played for the Yankees, but Aaron Rodgers ain't no slouch. What do you— who do you think— who are you confusing Aaron Rodgers with, Peyton Manning or Tom Brady? Because those guys are tall drinks of water who could throw the ball, but they were not supreme athletes. Aaron Rodgers is quick twitch, as much an athlete as we've ever seen at that position alongside John Elway, right?

I, I gotta— I gotta tell you, I don't agree.

Like, I'm—

why?

What does he lack other than height compared to John Elway, Aaron Rodgers?

I mean, that's, that's part of it, because the size and power of John Elway when he would scramble. Now, Aaron Rodgers, I agree, especially when it comes to scrambling, evading pressure, throwing on the run, every bit the, the athlete that John Elway was when he's, you know, behind the line of scrimmage. But John had so many iconic moments, and Aaron wouldn't really sacrifice his body because he didn't have the frame that John Elway had, and he played a different type of game. He, he scrambled to, to throw the ball Whereas John Elway scrambled to scramble most of the time. I think John Elway, it's fair to say, was a better athlete. He was— wasn't he drafted by the Yankees?

Like, I think I just said that. And let me tell you, listen, John Elway is one of the all-time specimens that ever played quarterback. Aaron Rodgers, I said this in October of 2010 before he beat the Pittsburgh Steelers in Super Bowl 45, he will retire as the greatest, most gifted quarterback we've ever seen. I stand by that now. I was wrong that he will be remembered as the greatest quarterback of all time, because what you're getting at, Mike Ryan, is that he didn't win enough times in January to achieve that banner. Nevertheless, I stand by what I said 15-some years ago, which is he is the great— he is the most gifted athlete, the most gifted quarterback of all time.

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They got that engraved in the— Yeah, they got it engraved right there. It says, Chris Whittingham sucks ass.

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I think Mahomes can probably take that mantle from him. I don't— Look, when he was at the peak of his powers, Aaron Rodgers was my favorite player ever.

Ever.

And I would always say that ever—

I love them too.

The very peak of Aaron Rodgers was prior to Patrick Mahomes, the, the most outstanding talent I had seen at the position. Not the best quarterback, because it's easily Tom Brady. He, like, he put that away. Um, but he was often undone by bad coaching. He always was surrounded by mediocre coaches.

Decided to return to that coach for one final—

not just, not just the head man too. Think of all the, the lousy offensive coordinators that went on to be, uh, head coaches elsewhere that were absolute jokes that Aaron Rodgers kept employed by being so spectacular. I think it— his excellence kind of got in his own way because— and also the Packers not having this like, uh, cult of personality type owner that would say, what is this? What are we doing with Mike McCarthy? After that NFC Championship against Seattle, which is one of the more fireable offenses I've ever seen at that level, he gets to keep his job. Dave, what say you?

Well, I think Aaron Rodgers, if you're trying to evaluate the quality of the on-field stuff, he has two of— I'm subjective as it is— he has two of the five greatest single seasons that a quarterback's ever had. Um, and yeah, I mean, what it comes down to is this is what you're getting at ultimately. We're talking all around it is it's the ring count. I know people don't want to apply the ring count here. If he had one or let's say two more I think we would be talking about Aaron Rodgers as the greatest of all time, no matter how many Tom Brady did win. The difference is the funny paradox of Aaron Rodgers at 43 is he is still the name brand. He is still a first-ballot Hall of Famer. He's still in the conversation, at least, to be one of the 5 best quarterbacks of the Super Bowl era. It's— it— what he suffers from though is high-end athleticism and the fact that it is now gone. Well, Tom Brady did it. He won the Super Bowl at 45. Yeah, he never depended on high-end athleticism. Aaron Rodgers did in his prime. Now that that's gone, it's almost like a prize fighter who doesn't fully grasp that he can't get to the edge like he used to.

Or rather, even worse, he does know he can't. And so he is making decisions based on that. He's about to take a smack. So instead he gets rid of the ball more quickly than otherwise might.

Yes, absolutely. Last year was painful to watch at times. He was wincing like Blaine Gabbert. In the pocket because he knows he doesn't have it anymore. And so he gets rid of the ball super early and he avoids contact altogether. Not to hang in the pocket and get rid of it maybe a little too early in an inaccurate pass. Like, he just bails on plays and it kind of jumps off the screen a little bit. That makes you— this is a little sad. But now that he is announced officially that this is his final season, I'm off that. I'm off all the stuff that— all the baggage that comes with Aaron Rodgers. Now, this season for me, I'm not a Steelers fan like you. In fact, I'm far from it. But I'm an Aaron Rodgers fan. And for me, this season is all about how many moments can you give me? How many times can you show that you got a dynamite throw in you in a big-time moment? And I'm in on that. I like that as a storyline entering the NFL season.

I think you're right. Put it on the poll, please. Was Aaron Rodgers wincing like Blaine Gabbert? Tony, are you prepared to contribute positively to the English language?

I am American Heritage Dictionary includes monumentous. It appears in both older and modern texts, but at a lower frequency and sometimes with a slightly more literal or formal tone. So there is, uh, you know, precedent for monumentous.

Ooh, when he used precedent right, I'll give it to him.

All right, Dave, what say you?

I'm down for whatever you gotta say there, 10 Day Tony.

What a monumentous day for the show.

Again, I, I bring words into the lexicon that maybe don't exist.

Ooh, lexicon too.

You know, flex it.

Maybe I remix them a little bit.

Well, flex But there's usually like a—

You have an old soul.

Thank you, Dave. Thank you so much. Dave?

Did you guys see, uh, you know who Nolan Smith Jr. is?

Boy, do we.

Linebacker for the Eagles. He, uh, now this isn't something that's terribly uncommon with athletes who have very fancy and fast cars. He was—

or George Orlofsky.

He was cited for driving 135 miles Proud. We powered through that thing in our throat. I didn't think anyone noticed.

Oh, they noticed.

And it had me thinking, how fast are you going on the highway where you, you, you then check the speedometer? Like, we've all know— we've all been through this before, right? Where you're, you're on the— you're in the express lane and you're on the highway and you hadn't looked at your speedometer in a while. and then you look like, oh, I'm not talking about you might get a ticket if a police officer sees you. I'm just like, oh, I— we gotta take our foot off the gas a little bit right now. This is a little bit too fast. Like, Dave, what— you know what I'm talking about? You know what I'm saying?

I do know what you're talking about. Yeah, I think it's a product of how good your car is. I think that's where it starts. If you have a really fancy car, you can hit 100 without realizing you're doing it, right?

Well, so is that what it is for you? You get— if you get to 100 when you're chasing—

I'm not a car guy.

When you're chasing would-be fake federal agents.

Because every now and then I'll get over 90, all right? Your boy's got a need for speed.

And with flip-flops on, crazy.

And if I get to like 90.

Hey man, now he's wheeling down the Dave Matthews.

If I get to like 93, I start to like, it's a little bit fast for my liking. Let's, let's slow things down a little bit here. 135? I don't even understand how fast that could possibly be.

It's fast.

It's really fast.

Like, I don't even know what that would look like if that, if that went by me on the highway. Like sometimes cars will go by me, I'm like, wow, that car must be going over 100. 100 is not even close to 135. 135 is so much faster than 100 miles per hour.

35, exactly.

Yeah, no, yeah, thanks, Tony. Like, you all, you got this type of confidence now just because you found one dictionary that has the word that you use.

The American Heritage, yes.

I mean, let's take it easy.

135 miles an hour is so fast that you, you wouldn't— if you're going 70, it's almost double your speed. So like, that's where he was. He was in a 70-mile-an-hour zone and he's doing 135 miles an hour. Like, he is. And the question is, when you look at it— thank you, it's almost double, a little less— was he just going 135 miles an hour the entire time, or did he kick it and then all of a sudden a cop caught him when he was at his peak of how fast he was going? Like, where is he in Georgia that he's flying 135 miles an hour with no cars, with nothing?

What's happening?

That's— that's a good question.

What is happening?

They have an Autobahn we don't know about.

He was on campus when he was cited. But what the hell is going on there?

This has been going on for at least 5 years now. How many Georgia football players have been arrested for speeding, you know, doing triple digits in the car? I mean, it's really sort of, you know, hey, Miami produces quarterbacks and Georgia produces guys who get arrested for speeding. It's really weird.

Do you think when the police officer pulls him over, he pulls up to the window, rolls down the window, like, does the police officer even say Do you know why I pulled you over? Right? Like, that's always what they say. Do you know— like, I was pulled over, uh, a few weeks ago.

Oh, fight through.

I choked up.

Oh, get it?

It's emotional. No, take your time.

Yeah, it was scary. It bummed you out. I'm not surprised that you're caught up in emotion here.

I get choked up sometimes when I talk about, you know, getting pulled over by the police. I got pulled over like a month ago. I had no idea why he pulled me over. I was being honest. I'm good, just a peanut got caught in my throat. In the meantime— For the visual audience, the highlights are great. The highlights are great they show me during my inner monolog. I mean, come on, I was born to wrestle. Anyway, 135 feels fast. So speaking of course, do you think when the cop pulls you over—

this is the thing that happened, remember when Cincinnati, when the Bengals just kept getting, uh, pinched over and over again, and they used to always say, they would say like, well, the cops are looking to make a name for themselves. I think in fact the exact opposite is true. If you're an Athens copper and you pull a guy over and you're like, oh my God, it's a, it's one of the Bulldogs, I love watching you on Saturdays, they're not looking to make a name for themselves by arresting you. It's the exact opposite. So you really got to be doing something bad to get taken down to the pokey, right?

Right. The football team, the Georgia football team, probably gives most of these guys among the most joy they have in their lives.

Yeah, you got to assume a lot of them are really looking—

How you feel about that, Mike?

Well, I'm sorry, I was looking up a stat. What I mean, I know I was echoing his point, Dave, but there have been over 20 arrests since 2023.

What?

Yeah, yeah. Uh, 20 people associated with the Georgia football program have been arrested, uh, for driving-related offenses.

That's the sort of thing that NCAA used to step in on, that when, when there was, when there was a pattern of bad behavior, that, that the overlords would, uh, would, you know, threaten, um, you know, some sort of penalty against the school for this.

No, that's only Miami. I'll take the fine.

So we, uh, we're all over— we, we love any stories that involve Waymo, right? We're all over these Waymos. That's the driverless car. I saw one yesterday. I— and whenever I see them, I can't help but— I always— I have to peek in the driver's seat because not all of them are driverless. Like, most of them are, but in some places there is a driver. And I saw one of the ghost drivers yesterday. I saw a driverless one yesterday. And how about for our visual audience, how about this photo here of— there's flooding in this city. I don't think it's in New York City. I know New York City's been dealing with some very, very serious flooding lately, but there is flooding in this city here, and the Waymo— look at this— drives straight. Dave, you see this? Drives straight headfirst.

Nolan Smith.

The Waymo drives straight into what looks like a pond. All right, like it's total flooding on this street. If you're a passenger, like, you gotta be so nervous. You're this passenger in there, you know you're going headfirst, you're going right into this massive flood. Dave, I don't know if you've ever been in the Waymo, but Mike, I don't know, man, it scares me. I've been in one before.

No, I, you know, never say never. I would not— I'm not going to declare you'll never see me get into a Waymo, but it's sort of like a porta-potty, you know. The— I would never you know, sit down, you know, never number 2 in a porta-potty. And you think, who would ever do that? Somebody in an emergent situation. Um, if, if I absolutely— if I was in the middle of nowhere and the only option I had was a Waymo. Outside of that though, there's no chance. What kind of daredevil in the year of the Lord 2026, given the evidence we have, is jumping into one of those things? Give me 5 years, maybe 10 years, and then I'll consider it when I see thousands, hundreds of thousands, and millions of people survive their ride in the Waymo.

When the government won't let you drive your car, you'll do exactly that.

That's right.

Tony believes in 5 years from now, that we're all going to be—

that was the big thing I missed last week where I just simply sat in awe listening to this show. It was monumentous.