Transcript of Zaslow Almost Got Into a Fight At a Dave Matthews Concert?! | Local Hour New

This is the Dan Levator Show with the Stugatz Podcast. Yo, let's give it up everybody for Friday! It's here, Friday's here, we did it everybody!

Let's go!

We made it to the weekend, that's right! Hello to Friday! Hello to everybody on the other side over there in the shipping container. I don't know if this crew's worked together yet. Uh, Dave, good morning to you out there on the West Coast. Hello Dave Dameshek!

Zazz, company, what's the poop? These are sunny times. Aaron Rodgers is back as well as basketball.

Oh, I could tell you're very excited about Aaron Rodgers being back.

Oh yeah, oh yeah. Before Memorial Day, what was everybody so worried about?

Why am I being peppered with questions about my musical taste before I walk into the studio here this morning, Mike Ryan? Okay, first I am asked, do I like Radiohead? And of course I like Radiohead, all right? I've seen Radiohead several times in concert.

This is the first European band that I know you to like.

All right, I've seen them several times in concert. I used to be a huge Radiohead— a matter of fact, I left this country one time to go see Radiohead in another country. That's a little bit redundant when I say left this country to go see in another country, but nonetheless, I said what I said. I've seen Radiohead several times, and then I feel like I was being judged Not based on my answer, but when you are then putting me on the spot and asking me, do I like Dave Matthews Band?

Yeah, because you look like you like Dave Matthews Band.

Okay, but like, that's an indictment. But why are you asking me today, do I like Dave Matthews Band?

You know, you know Ethan, right? Ethan Budowski?

Yeah.

When you take him to a restaurant, doesn't matter how fancy it is, he's gonna order chicken tenders. And I think your rock music palate is basically ordering the chicken tenders. Like, you don't know any bands from the greater Manchester area.

I like what I like.

Yes, which is chicken tenders. So I was just curious because Dave had an interesting Radiohead thing.

Are you telling me Seattle in the '90s is chicken tenders?

It is, yeah.

Come on.

To like Pearl Jam is chicken tenders.

Okay, but it's Pearl Jam and it's Alice in Chains and it's Soundgarden.

Yeah, it was the most popular version of rock at that time. It was chicken tenders.

All right, but they're great.

Shout out to Nirvana though.

Yeah, I love chicken tenders too, but if I'm in a, you know, sometimes I'm in the mood for a nice steak or some sushi.

I like Nirvana, obviously, but unless Nirvana's your favorite band, which I don't know, like, is there anyone today who still says Nirvana is their favorite band? Unless Nirvana is your favorite band, I feel like it's a little bit trite. When you are going over the '90s rock. So, oh, love Nirvana. Like, all right, everybody, everybody likes Nirvana. I get it.

That— what's the distinction between Nirvana and Pearl Jam? I know Pearl Jam obviously still exists and all that, but what do you think the musical distinction is? Well, they think Pearl Jam had some enduring sound that eluded Nirvana.

Well, I, I, I don't know because Nirvana wasn't around long enough. Okay, I don't know if Nirvana would have had this enduring sound if they would have kept creating music after those first—

I feel pretty confident in that one.

How?

How do you know? How do you know? Because bands break up all the time. How do you know?

Well, because their music still holds up.

Right, but how do you know they would have kept creating?

They were a 3-piece, so their sound was always this garage rock type of style, and that is always going to be a timeless sound.

Oh, I'll push back on that. The evidence available to us is, and obviously Kurt Cobain was the driving force of Nirvana, but Dave Grohl's band, the Foo Fighters, he seems like a nice human being for all he does in the community or for the world at large, um, philanthropically. But I, I have yet to hear anybody make a good case that every Foo Fighters song doesn't sound exactly like every other Foo Fighters song. The only distinction between them is when they're plugged in or acoustic. That's, that's how they differentiate their music. Grohl unplugs and he, and he goes acoustic. Otherwise The songs are indistinguishable. Meantime, how we got into all this conversation is it is, uh, in 1997, yesterday was the anniversary of the release of OK Computer, which I declare, hyperbolically or otherwise, the greatest album of all time. It recently jumped to number 1 on my all-time album rankings list, just jumping past Eat a Peach by the Allman Brothers and Physical Graffiti by Led Zeppelin and pretty much every other recorded album.

Uh, OK Computer is a great album. No one's going to push back against that.

It's not the greatest album of all time because I think you have to be the greatest Radiohead album of all time, and it is certainly a top—

Pablo Honey?

No, I'm a Kid A— I'm one of those In Rainbows guys. I'm one of those In Rainbows guys. I like In Rainbows best, and then I like Kid A, and then OK Computer.

OK, can I defend myself though for a second about the Dave Matthews Band accusations?

What? Are they not true?

Well I mean like Dave Matthews— yeah! I guess I liked Dave Matthews Band but they had been forever my wife's favorite band. My wife got me into Pink Floyd when we started dating when we were younger. They were her favorite. Whatever!

Oh my god... How many flip-flops do you have that have a beer opener on the bottom?

Uh what whatever man.

How many toe rings in the crowd?

Hey guys!

Waw waw waw waw waw!

Notice he played the fifth on that one.

My wife got me into Pink Floyd and then eventually Dave Matthews Band now They're not like— they're still her range of music tastes for your wife. That was me. White woman. White, white, white, white, white.

She probably likes Drake.

So we used to go see Dave Matthews Band every summer. They're always here every summer. We have not been in a few years. All right. We're not as into it as— and she is not into it as much. And I like— I could take it or leave it. I've seen them enough. Like, I don't need to see them again.

Dude, there was—

is she into the Florida Panthers?

Is she—

because like, as a make-good, since you're into Dave Matthews on her behalf, apparently, does she return the favor?

She likes going with me. Like, she's not going to sit around and watch the Panthers on the very uncomfortable Zazzle Mansion family room couch, which, by the way, we're getting closer and closer to having a new couch sponsored. If you are interested, hit me up. My DMs are open. But anyway, yeah, so we're not like— like, I asked my wife, actually, it's a few days ago. I said to her though, do you want to go see Dave Matthews Band this month? Because it's I think next week. And she was like nope, not interested. Okay fine, no big deal.

Matthew's bands are there! Jesus, he's always down here playing West Palm—

yeah—

where everyone's just wearing cargo shorts backwards hats flip-flops and just bouncing from side to side turn whap whap whap.

So Zachs... Yeah uh... Mow mow my howl my howl my howl my howl my howl.

None of the music makes sense.

It's bad but there was this video I guess Dave Matthews Band played Magic Kingdom, and I saw all these videos from it, and I was like, man, I, I could not concoct a, a worse place for me to be.

What if Dave Matthews and Eddie Vedder did a duet? That would really sound like something. Like that.

I almost got into a fight at a Dave Matthews concert. It's true.

Details please. With Romberg?

No, that was— no, with Romberg that was at Slipknot. Yeah. Uh, no, Romberg almost got into a big fight, uh, at when we saw Slipknot, and that was gonna go so poorly for me. It would have went fine for him, but it went really poorly for me. But I— yeah, I almost got into a fight at a Dave Matthews show. Like, we were All right, whatever. We were— you stepped on my flip-flop! Okay, you're, you're really close. So, so, so we're playing hacky sack over there. Well, no, this is during the show. No one's playing hacky sack during the show.

Okay, you can't say that with certainty.

So you're right, it was West Palm on the lawn.

You're right, there was some hacky sack.

Those lawn seats are very affordable. You're right, put it on the poll.

If you're on the lawn in West Palm Beach, is there hacky sack being played?

I put my I put my beach towel here. This is my spot of the grass.

You know, there are certain areas now on the lawn that are reserved. Yeah, it's not, it's not the free-for-all it used to be.

Oh, I hate that place. Uh, I start— I rarely go to that venue now. I just do seats. And nice little secret, they have like this like little mid-club area. Yeah, with like, uh, patio furniture. Yeah, you go the day of the concert and upgrade your tickets It'll cost you like $40. I did that for Big Boi and Kid Cudi. 3 seats, got upgraded, was in my own little patio section.

Yeah, it's awesome.

Like a, like a little Sun Sports pregame show.

That's the venue where Tony and I both went and saw Alanis Morissette.

I was taken against my will.

Hold on a second. All right.

I was taken—

not together.

Oh.

Yeah, no, we didn't go together.

Okay.

But that would have been awesome. I would have loved to teach him about Jagged Little Pill.

I sat in those sweet seats one time at the amphitheater for a comedy festival there. I had those seats, it was wonderful. Anyway, you do get to a certain age where it's like, I can't be in the lawn anymore. I have to be in seats.

Because you might get in a fight.

Yeah, okay, well, the fight that I almost got into at Dave Matthews Band, we were actually in the pit, okay? So it was right up front. Right in front of me.

That's my cooler of hard lemonades! Beat it!

So, so it was one of those deals where like, you know, stupid, you know, you know, stupid drunk college kid who was there with his girlfriend and kept bumping into my wife! And like, what am I supposed to do in that spot? Kept bumping into her like once, twice, it gets to the place where like, you know, kind of gently shove him off, and then like by the third time All right, now he needs to get shoved, and I need to, you know—

Hey, you want to get a room?

And I need to let him know what's what. Now, I will tell you, I will tell you, because I don't know if you know, you know, my stature, I'm not a big guy, all right? And—

But for a Dave Matthews Band concert, like, above average.

Yeah, I wasn't going to be afraid of anyone.

You're one of the tougher guys.

I wasn't going to—

You pushed him in your flip-flops?

That's why I like going to Dave Matthews Band, because they all make me look tough. Tough, all right? I will admit, I will admit that when I was in this guy's face now, and I was ready for whatever, with my opposite hand, I did tap my other friend who was there with his wife, OK, and he's a big guy. He's a former baseball player, like a former professional baseball player. And I did tap him, just so he could be aware of the happenings right now. I got a little bit more courage now.

You just go to this venue with former athletes as backup?

I do.

That's right.

I do, I do.

So anyway, um, how old were you when you tried to fight Zaslo and Wayne Gretzky? Has his Semenko with him.

How old was I?

Marty McSorley.

When you tried to fight this college kid, how old were you?

I would say this was 10 years ago, so I was mid-30s.

Yeah, you feel good about that?

What? I had to defend my wife. And you know what, I take it back, he was probably like mid-20s. He was probably mid-20s. But at that point, whatever, if someone who's mid-20s steps to you, I'm not gonna back down.

Yeah, no one touches my wife unless I say so, and I sit down over there.

How dare you?

He was there celebrating his bar mitzvah and Zaslo's getting in his face.

Did the option of you switching seats with your wife actually pop up?

Well, it wasn't seats, we were in the pit. Yeah, we're in the pit, so we're standing the whole time.

And you know how the pit goes at a Dave Matthews Band concert.

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Dan Libertard, John Zaslo. How you love that catchphrase. Bad news for opposing teams in the Triple-A. Stoogatz. This is the Dan Levatar Show with the Stoogatz.

I don't like— I, I, I don't understand what goes on with that Dave Matthews Band. Who is this, this creep, this vain, this, this narcissist Dave Matthews, who says the whole band is named after me. And why doesn't anyone else push back in the band? They've all been in the band for however long, a quarter century. That's not enough? That's not enough time under your, uh, your rule, Dave Matthews, you creep? You, you, you, you evil man dictating to me that I'm in your band. Now we're all in a band together, friend.

All right, there you go. Didn't expect the show to—

You know what happened to me the other day?

Yeah.

Let me tell you something very quickly, if you're talking about confrontation.

Quickly.

The other day I'm pulling— okay, I'm pulling onto the 101 freeway here in Los Angeles, and the guy in front of me is not moving quickly enough for my taste. On the other side of the street is a cop car. He's writing a ticket to somebody for a traffic violation. The guy, as I'm trying to get onto the ramp to get onto the freeway, is very slow in front of me, start and stop. He's on his cell phone the whole time. So much so that I'm just— I'm gesticulating wildly, and then I'm honking my horn and otherwise. And now he stops his car in the road before the ramp and gets out of his car, not seeing the cop across the street writing the ticket. And he holds up a badge and he says, stop tailgating me, mf-er! And then realizes as he says that, oh, there's a real cop right across the street there. He's now flashed a badge. He's just a random guy. Doing that, and I say to the cop, you see that? He's so easy. You showed me a fake badge. The guys across— the cops across the street, so he doesn't follow what's happening there.

The guy realizes though, uh-oh, I better not— I better get out of here. And he jumps in his car and he jumps in the freeway and is weaving in and out of traffic, and I'm trying to follow him to take a picture of his license plate. What should I do here? I now have an image of this guy's license plate who claimed to be a cop. Do I turn him in?

Okay, hold on a second. Was anyone else in the car with you?

Yes.

Your child?

It was a child.

Was it your child?

No, it was Dave Matthews' child.

Whose child was it? I said, was it your child? And your response was, it was that child.

Was it Hoover or was it someone else?

No, it was the kid you almost kicked the ass of for touching your wife. What do you mean? Yeah, it was my child.

Chris, it was a child.

Flashing a badge. Flashing a badge. Don't tailgate me, MF-er.

Do you think—

do I think that you're a cop when you tell me don't tailgate? You mf-er, hold up a badge at me.

Dave, did you just decide you're gonna chase this guy and not— yes, and not explain it to the child in the car? After you, I guess, suspended your chase, did you explain what was going on? Did your child put it together?

Imagine Dave— Dave provided a running commentary of what was going down in the moment, so the little one in the back seat knew, and they were a part of it, you know. They were my deputy. "Get him!" I don't know.

I don't know what you should do. I don't know what you should do in that spot, but I like that the child that you had in the car with you was not afraid. That's important.

No, no, no, no. We were rocking. We did an up-tempo Dave song to really get our juices flowing.

Oh, so while you were following, while you were following, you put on some Tunes.

That's right.

Yeah, alright, that's interesting.

Soundtrack.

That's interesting.

Well, uh, Baby Driver.

We'll get to the basketball from last night as the Knicks went up 2 games to none. We got basketball tonight, Game 3, series shifts to San Antonio, but there continues to be rumors. If we're talking about the NBA, there continue to be Giannis Antetokounmpo rumors, alright? And apparently, uh, if you look on these, uh, you know, you look on some of the wagering sites, Some of them, uh, have the Miami Heat as the prohibitive favorite to land Giannis Antetokounmpo. Now, there's certainly something to be said for the idea of, do you give up all these players, you give up all these assets for just Giannis Antetokounmpo? When you see what San Antonio's doing, when you see what Oklahoma City's doing, heck, even when you see what's going on with New York. I mean, does acquiring Giannis put you in a position where you think you're competing with one of those teams? But What if I were to tell you you could acquire Giannis and maybe there's another superstar that you could wind up acquiring? Like, for instance, what if, because Masai Ujiri is shaking things up in Dallas, could I interest you in a Kyrie Irving?

Not instead of Giannis, but what if you find a way to get both? Is that something that would interest you?

Man, all right, this one's an interesting one because Kyrie's— what, what, what's his, uh, what's his salary cap number?

He will have 40, hair under 40, I think.

It's $39.5 million, and then he'll have a player option for the following season at $42.4.

I guess you can get him cheap. You just need to make salaries work out, right? Um, but I'm over here worried about Giannis's body. I mean Kyrie's body gives out on him all the time. Remember, he missed the Finals pretty much against Celtics, right? He's always hurt. But that's probably the type of guy you need to target if you're looking to add a third star to Bam and Giannis. And that's an attainable one because you're probably going to be depleted some assets here, right? So that's the kind of star that you're looking at. It's interesting. I mean, you're not— your season will be undone by injury. But you have the off chance that if they're all healthy at the same time, you have the interior defense and honestly perimeter defense of Bam. Both of them come out and can guard the perimeter right now. And Kyrie was no slouch. We'll see what he is.

I—

yeah, it might be worth a shot. Might be worth a shot.

Last time Kyrie played 60 games was 22-23. Other than that, 40-20, 58-50.

Yeah, I mean, health would be a huge part of that. Health would be a huge part of if a third guy you were going after was Kawhi Leonard. Health would be a big thing if you were going after 42-year-old LeBron James. Like, no matter what, health is going to be a thing. Health would be a thing with Ja Morant. But that's also part of why the trade and free agent markets for these guys all seem to be relatively depressed from what you would expect for the names that we're talking about.

Would you rather have Kyrie or Ja?

Ja. Really?

Okay, hold on. That's interesting.

That's an interesting—

he said Ja. I was like, wait, that's another superstar that I can get on the cheap.

And yes, I think Ja Morant would come cheaper than Kyrie Irving because he has more money attached, even though, even though he's significantly younger. I think Dallas would want to look like— I think Memphis just wants to get rid of Ja Morant, while I think Dallas would want a little something in return.

Now, we have to keep in mind both Kyrie, because the Miami Heat were considering Kyrie. I think I recall these reports correctly, and they decided against it, you know, given Mickey.

This is when he was back in Brooklyn.

This is when Kyrie was going through it.

Different time.

He is settled down.

It was a different—

and the, the Miami Heat had the discussion very recently on Ja Morant and decided against it. So right now we're hypothetically identifying two stars that are risk-reward type of dudes that the franchise has already decided at least one time in their history. That's not for us, but it might have to be considering how much they give up for a guy like Giannis.

It depends on what you ultimately are able to get Giannis for, if you are able to get Giannis. Like, I don't want to assume the close there. I've been burned by this before. But if, if the Heat were able to pair Giannis with Bam Adebayo, then you end up in a situation where you go, okay, we've set ourselves up purposefully for this season and for next.

Yeah, it becomes, it becomes a right now thing.

So yeah, it becomes right now. And you have guys who are, you know, either Andrew Wiggins opting out of a deal, or as a potential sign-and-trade in that scenario, or an expiring deal. You'd have Norman Powell as a potential sign-and-trade. So there's, there's money to play with.

Zazz, what do you do?

I—

oh, okay, are you asking me would I be interested in Kyrie Irving, or are we doing Kyrie or Ja?

I mean either way, like, they come with some risk. But it— I think with how the lottery broke for Miami, now I'm kind of more in on the Giannis thing, where before I was like, I was kind of in on this lottery pick, but I think you want the Heat—

I think you just, you want the Heat to do something. You want them to shake it up in some fashion. You want to be excited for next season in some way. I think that's probably where you stand. So I'm in on them acquiring Giannis, especially if it means that they don't have to give up everything that you thought that maybe they would have to give up at the trade deadline. If the temperature around the league on Giannis Antetokounmpo is in fact lukewarm, then yeah, I— that's, that's your quintessential Heat move where you try and pounce on a disgruntled player, a disgruntled star, and you can get him when the, when the atmosphere around the league is lukewarm on him. That's a, that's a Heat move. So yes, I'd be good with them doing that.

When you heard that report that the market has been lukewarm, and obviously Bill Simmons—

that makes me more interested about it.

On the pod a couple of days ago, it was like, oh, wait a second, if, if people are lukewarm on it and you can maybe get a little bit less of an offer, like, that's a very interesting situation. Now you have to backfill the roster. Norman Powell becomes super interesting because that redundant skill set of him and Tyler— Tyler's gone. Yeah, you need Warren Powell, Norman Powell back in.

Yeah. And, and I would like— yeah, I think that there are going to be guys out there that you can also acquire. Maybe it's a Ja Morant, which is something that was talked about, by the way, back in January or February. Can the Heat acquire both of those guys? I think if you're gonna do it, do it, you know, like go out there and acquire that second guy. If we're talking about would I be more interested in Ja Morant or more interested in Kyrie Irving, that one's tough. I think I'd be more interested— uh, Ja can't shoot.

He can't shoot worth a lick, and he hasn't gone to the rim.

But on the other hand, then again, Kyrie hates the Jews, so it's like 6-0.

That is something that, you know, uh, sticks out to me.

My job more difficult.

Yeah, that is something that—

he's got great handles though, guys.

I know, but yeah, that's the other—

you know what, I'm good with handles. Anti-Semite.

On behalf of the Jews, come on down.

You don't speak for us.

I don't think you can. Wow, you don't say that.

Yeah, we're good, right?

Yeah, no, no, that is— you do, you do not speak for all of us. Uh, last night the New York Knicks pull away in the second half, they go up 2 games to none on the Cavaliers, you know we're gonna get all the "this series is over" stuff, and that makes me nuts. You know why that makes me nuts, Dave Dameshek? It makes me nuts because there's seemingly people who say that this series is over, and you're gonna get that all day today on television and on radio, that this series is over. There's a difference between the series being over and believing the Knicks are going to win. I believe the Knicks are going to win this series the same way I believe the Knicks were gonna win the series before it began. But you can't say that the series is over before Cleveland's even played a home game. I mean, Cleveland was down 0-2 to Detroit, and then they went to— they won the next 3 games, including the next 2, which were at home. But we're gonna count Cleveland out before they even play a home game? That's gonna make me nuts all day today, Dave.

People declaring this series is over. I hate that. It's a major pet peeve of mine.

I hear you. And, uh, you know, I have, um, asked some people before a Super Bowl if it's a must-win game. And so we get, uh, fast and loose with these terms. That's a good question. Yeah, well, we get fast and loose with the idea of like, it's over. But, you know, I, I think what you're pointing at is, is ultimately accurate. This is a very tall mountain for a team to climb with James Harden trying to defend the score of the other team throughout. It does seem unlikely that the Cavs are going to rally here. But I take your larger point. I appreciate it.

In fact, Don Lebatard, you're a big disappointment, Paul Pierce.

My—

I'm only upset right now that I don't get to do this in person, Paul Pierce.

Hey, how disappointing is it to be a Miami fan right now?

Stugatz, brother. Actually, you make a really great point.

This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugatz.

By the way, just very quickly, I don't want to get back to 3 minutes ago, but Giannis, if you get— and assuming LeBron is not pursued by the Lakers— isn't that the formula that makes the most sense? Luka with Giannis. Then I'm with you on the Heat, that Giannis doesn't make them rightly a contender in the East. Just plugging Giannis into what they have going isn't enough to compete with the high end. You put Giannis with Luka for at least a season or two. Now, I mean, why would, why would you ever go to the West?

Yeah, I mean, why would he ever want that? Do you see what's going on? Do you see who plays for San Antonio? Like, why? Listen, why would any player want to go to San Antonio?

I'm just talking about if you're, if you're talking about on a piece of paper what is a compelling, um, you know, core. If, if you keep, if you keep Austin Reeves plus Luka plus Giannis, okay, now that, that has the makings of a team that viably could make a deep playoff run, right? No matter who else is out there. I get what's going on with Wemby and OKC and otherwise, but that's the West and that's been the story for 30 years.

So I went into the game last night very transparent about what I was hoping for, and that was for James Harden to just have another embarrassing Game 2 because I like that narrative. I like that storyline. I don't like the player. I don't like how he plays. And like, he was fine last night. Like, he wasn't good, but I don't know, it wasn't terrible.

I don't know. We talked about on the Alley Oop last night, me, Tristan, Juju.

Oh, we were like, he didn't do anything.

If you look at his counting stats, you're going to be fooled and think, oh, he had an okay game. A lot of those—

he had 2 assists.

He had 2 assists, no turnovers finally. But when you look at his stats, he went 6 for 15. He had a couple of shots that went in. He was good in the first half, but he was 2 for 14 like halfway through the game. Like, it just wasn't good.

Well, that's not true because I think he was like 4 of 8 at halftime. Like, he was actually— he was— he was at halftime.

I'm talking about third, third quarter.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't do anything in the second half. The first half he was— it was all right. He didn't do anything in the second half. So it— like, he had a nothing game, alright? He really did. He was like a nothing last night. If Adam Silver was at the game last night, he walked up to James Harden, he said, "Welcome to the club." He had a nothing game last night. Uh, New York though—

He's fat though, that's it, that's the excuse, you know. Give him some grace there, he's heavyset.

And Adam Silver is very thin. I mean, you've seen him, right? Look a little bit gaunt. Anyway, it's neither here nor there. Uh, Josh Hart last night with 26 points had the monster game, but I want to show you this. So you know, they panned to the celebrities all throughout the game. I love that celebrity row in New York. I love the dynamics, Dave, of the celebrity row where, like, if you are a celebrity, if you are a movie star, TV star, what have you, you want to go to the Knicks game, you say to your agent, right, you're like, hey, you know, can you see what kind of tickets we can get? And what if, what if, what if you come back and you're offered with— because they don't purchase these seats, like, the Knicks have the seats and they give them to you, you know, hey, come, come sit celebrity row. What if you're, what if you're you're given row B, you know, like what's the tipping point for what kind of celebrity you have to be where, all right, I'll sit row B, or it's, oh, I can't be seen in row B, I gotta sit row A.

You know, it is a, you know, I'll post images, I'll take my boys to a ballgame or whatever, and people, randos on social media will weigh in like, That's the seat you got. You didn't get better seats than that. People critique where I'm sitting. The world has become more and more, if you aren't aware, about the haves and have-nots. And the haves are about two dozen people through which all the rest of us are supposed to live vicariously. Ben Stiller happens to be one of those people, and we're all supposed to swoon because he has an HD image of James Harden in close-up at MSG. And we're all supposed to, like I say, swoon over this because of course we're no longer That's no longer accessible to any of the rest of us. There is Kevin Hart, there's The Rock, there's Ben Stiller, and a short list of other people, like I say, through which we will experience the world.

So here, you know, as Dave Dameshek mentions, for the visual audience, Ben Stiller is sitting celebrity row, and that, that's video that he's taking.

Beautiful video.

Well, yeah, but like I don't get that. He's at Game 2 of the Eastern Conference Finals and it's just like, let me take out my phone and start record— you're at the game! Why didn't you record? Or is there gonna be a moment— what's his wife's name again? Christine? Christine Taylor? Is that her name? Alright, I mean, she's a big-time actress, I wanna make sure I get her name right. Is there a time where they're sitting around, "Hey Christine! Let's watch the video I took from the game! We were sitting first row!" Really? I don't understand that.

For whom, right? That's exactly right. That, that the question is always that I have whenever you are, you know, seeing the great sights of Europe or, or, uh, uh, the bayou or, or San Francisco or otherwise. What you ask the exact questions, Aslo. That is absolutely— what are you doing with that video? What for? Whom is it? Like, do you scroll back through it in 10 years? I don't think you do. So basically, drop the camera and experience. Drink it in with your actual eyeballs, because this video that you think future you is going to enjoy does not exist, right?

I do understand what you're saying, where if you go to a sporting event and you post a picture, and then you'll get the messages where it's like, wow, those are the best seats you can get. I remember going back— this is, this is like a dozen years ago when I was doing the morning show here in Miami on $7.90 a ticket with Joy Taylor, and she went to Marlins opening day. It's like, it's, I mean, it's the only day of the year where there's gonna be a lot of people there. And she was sitting in the upper deck in center field. Upper deck, center field. And she posted the picture too, you know, hey, yo, having a great time, Marlins opening day. You know what I told her? You're embarrassing the show. I said that to her. I said, what are you doing? You're embarrassing the show. Center field's one thing, okay? Outfield, you're Joy Taylor. You're sitting in the outfield, upper deck, you're embarrassing my show.

It's so far from where home plate is too. It's like a mile long.

Yeah, that's right.

But in football, this is the one I'm thinking of. I took— me and Jean-Claude Van Damme-esque went over to see Ben Roethlisberger's last game with the Steelers when they paid a visit to the Chargers in SoFi, and we were up high at the 50, which is where I like to sit to see football games, and that people reacted to that.

You like to sit at the 50? You like to sit at the 50?

What I like to do is I like to sit up high. The basic rule is, I think we can all agree, is football up high, hockey up high, down low, up close baseball, basketball.

How high though?

That's the basic rule.

How high?

I mean, I like to see the whole field. I like to see it play out. I like the all 22, if you will.

How high?

Is this a bit you're trying to do?

No!

I think you're trying to set me up—

no like are you gonna sit at top row in upper deck?!

Wait wait what's the measurement 600 level is that relatable is that universal reference?

You know what? That's too high if you're in the 600 love if you told me you were going to the game tonight I say "where your seats?" you go "600 level" buddy get some better seats.

What are ya at home?

Listen like I said not for basketball I don't want to be out there that doesn't suit my interests but yes Football, hockey, I want to see the whole thing. Basketball, the, the quickness, that's, that's the appeal of that is, is, is the speed at which they play. It's, it's jaw-dropping. I don't need to see where all 10 guys are. It's pretty easy for my eye to drink all of that in. Same goes for baseball. I want to see the pace of the pitches and otherwise. Football, I can be way high up there and track the whole thing.

I just think it's interesting that your preferred area to sit is the 50-yard line. That's That's where we should—

it be in for football? Where should it be? The end zone?

Of course it should be the 50-yard line, Dave.

That's not— I mean, right?

Yes, of course it should be the 50-yard line.

Uh, well, I wasn't bragging about that. I wasn't— I wasn't trying to make a point, a distinction. Of course the only place to sit for football is the 50-yard line if you have a choice, right?

The only place. The only place to sit.

Now in hockey, in hockey, I like behind the goal. The choice is a lot of people— behind the goal, the team that you're rooting for shoots at twice.

That's, uh, well, that goes without saying. No one No one's ever said to their kid, where do you want to sit? Would you like to sit on the shoot once side? No, it's always the shoot twice side. Yes, of course.

I think people who lack attention to detail might buy tickets and say, oh, we're behind the goal. Like, you have to ask the question, is it the one that we're rooting for? Are they shooting at it twice? Of course.

Isn't it amazing?

Everybody's not expert like you, Zaslow. I'm a man of the people. I'm trying to give— I'm trying to provide some counsel for people. And you're jumping to the end of the story. As though everybody's up to speed like you are.

Isn't it amazing, by the way, like you're saying where you prefer to sit— I'm being serious now— you're saying where you prefer to sit for a game, I'm saying where I prefer to sit for the game. The youngins, the youths, all right, who are listening and watching right now, isn't it crazy to think back there was a time where, and not that long ago, where you would buy tickets to a sporting event and like you didn't really get to pick where your seats were. You would say to the, to the person who's behind the glass, like, what do you have available? And she's like, oh, I got, I got 10th row, you know, on the 10-yard line. Uh, like, they wouldn't tell you it's on the aisle. It was just like, all right, I'll take those tickets, you know?

Yeah.

Oh, I don't remember.

You didn't get to pull up Ticketmaster online and look at the blue dots and pick which ones you want to sit in. Like, you just I want 2 tickets. I hope they're good seats.

You don't remember box offices?

Yeah, of course I remember a box office, but I don't remember being in a position to not know where my seats were. Yeah, just like, hey, I would at least ask, like, hey, is it on the aisle?

Is it in the middle of the row?

No, you know what would happen? You would go and you'd have to say, give me 2 of your best available. That's what it was. Best available. And I mean, the seats could be anywhere. What a time to be alive.

Is it still foreign to young, or has it become foreign to young people, the idea of going to a movie and just going into the theater and then finding your seats? Is it assumed for younger people that you know where you're gonna be sitting? What the hell are you guys talking about?