Transcript of Frauds And Sellouts (Ep. 2635)

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Dan Bongino's episode focuses on the push to impeach Pete Hegseth and other Trump administration officials, which he attacks as a political stunt led in part by Congressman Tom Massie. Bongino argues that the effort betrays America First principles, and he is joined by guest Ben Shapiro, who says it is mainly a bid for attention from a lawmaker leaving office.

The discussion also covers limits on congressional investigations, how affordability shaped the midterm results, and the Republican outlook for 2028. Listeners will hear the speakers' claims as their own opinions, including the host's sharp criticism of named politicians.

In this episode Dan Bongino, Ben Shapiro

This episode's transcript was made with HappyScribe's AI note taker, covering the push to impeach Pete Hegseth and the fight over Congressman Tom Massie.

Speaker 100:00:03

All America, all the time: sit down, buckle up, and get ready for "The Dan Bongino Show."

Dan Bongino00:00:10

So I have to open up the show today by issuing an apology. I do. I don't issue a lot of these, but I'm really, really sorry—like, genuinely sorry—if you ignored my many warnings about Pinecone. I'm sorry about that. Maybe I wasn't strong enough. Who's Pinecone?

Congressman soon-to-be-no-longer-Congressman Tom Massie. I— I warned you, man. And for those out there, by the way, thinking this is some grudge like he holds against President Trump and Secretary of War Pete Hegseth: it is not. I not only ask you, but strongly encourage you to actually go back and look at my library of material on Rumble.

It's all there. Every single show I've done on Rumble for the last 5 years is still sitting in the library. If you're bored, I encourage you to go back and look up all the times when I mistakenly believed Congressman Massie was standing on principle, that I defended him. And then something happened. I met him. And ladies and gentlemen, the most destructive political narratives in the world are those that change a pre-existing notion of who someone is.

I'm telling you, on the Republican side of the aisle—because Ro Khanna owns the fraud label on the Democrat side—I have never met a bigger fraud, fake, and phony than this guy. And I'm going to tell you something: there are people up there—and I'm not talking about sellout rhinos or swamp rats or anything like that—who told me that he'd been through a lot. Personally, I'm not going to get into that. It's not my business. But from the horse's mouth, from people even I think his supporters would trust, they said he totally changed after that, became all about himself.

I'm sorry you didn't listen. If you didn't. I warned you. The guy is a total fraud. And if you saw him like I saw him, you would say the exact same thing. I'd never seen anything like it, folks. I'm going to walk through what happened yesterday with this sham impeachment. Just an absolute joke. And a sad one, at that. We have now 60 days in a lame duck after a rough election at best, to confirm conservative judges, to confirm Trump appointments—there's about 100 sitting there.

There's about 10-plus judges, two appellate court judges, and I think the fifth and the eighth, which could tip the balance of those courts. We've got permitting reform going on. You've got economic measures we could get through. You've got all kinds of things in these 60 days. And what does Massie do? Does what he always does. The most dangerous place in the world is between Tom Massie and a camera. And he jumps in front of the cameras, gives some stupid speech about a sham impeachment—really directed at President Trump—but he had to throw Pete Hegseth under the bus too.

Because he's a clown. He's a clown. He's a goofball. By the way, how many days? Hey, Justin, was Tom Massie—did he serve in the military or law enforcement or anything like that? I don't think he did. I don't think he did. Pete Hegseth served. I served on the law enforcement side. What did he do? All right. I warned you. I'm telling you, for all the Massie followers out there, I promise you, you are going to be disappointed.

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Dan Bongino00:05:45

blackoutcoffee.com/bongino. Fellas, let's go. Folks, can you explain to me, please? Explain to me like I'm 5. I'm not. I'm quite older than that. But explain to me. Justin, are you the youngest one here? I don't know. You are probably, right? Explain to me like I'm 5 years old how it's America First to file articles of impeachment against the most America First president we've ever had and his secretary of war.

Dan Bongino00:06:16

And in said articles of impeachment, you're defending communist socialist alleged narco-trafficking terror criminal Nicolás Maduro from Venezuela. And you're also defending Alyssa Slotkin's crew, Mark Kelly, and others. These Democrats who filmed a video at the least implying to military personnel that they could disobey orders from the commander in chief. Tell me again how that's America First. I'd love to hear it. It's affordability.

It's affordability. It's the impeachment on affordability. Folks, I'm sorry. I'm sorry you didn't listen to me. I'm telling you, I've never met a bigger fraud. He just pontificates on X to a small group of many of whom are bots. Some are very real, however. They're not all bots. And we shouldn't diminish that. But he pontificates and bloviates. By the way, I don't know what any of this has to do with libertarian values or whatever.

He tries cases he knows absolutely nothing about on X, depriving everyone involved of due process. Again, he indites people effectively on Twitter. He does like his own little star chamber routine. And I want to remind you that when I offered, he can say whatever he wants. He has never refuted this because he knows it's true. When I offered fake fraud clown Congressman Tom Massie a briefing on these matters, which other lawmakers took me up on, by the way, on the matters he speaks about on X, he never showed up.

He didn't want to do it. You know why he didn't want to do it? Because he wanted to appeal to the lowest common denominator on X. Because this fake fraud phony, who've never served a single day in his life for anyone other than himself, wanted to be able to participate on Twitter and say, "I don't know nothing, man," and "Sergeant Schultz it." Because once we told him why he was wrong, then he would have been embarrassed. And he just doesn't want to be embarrassed. He just wants to pontificate. He's a loser.

And the people who knew him best in his district voted him out. He may have had some redeeming characteristics early on, Congressman Massie. He has none of them now. He was President Trump yesterday on Congressman Tom Massie. And ladies and gentlemen, nobody says it better. Check this out.

Speaker 300:08:45

Massie is a loser. He shouldn't be taking up the time of Congress or the Senate or anything that he's doing. The guy's a stone-cold loser. Would always—he's a Republican. Always he would vote against. We could come up with the best bill. We could come up with—and he would always vote against. There's something wrong with him. And I said, "Look, I've got to challenge him." And I challenged him. And he lost in a landslide to a very good man. We have a very good man, Ed Ghulrain, who's great.

Took his place. He was an automatic no-vote. You could go in with the greatest bill—bills where even Democrats were voting—and he'd be no. And I said, "What is wrong with this guy? He's a sick guy. There's something wrong with him, actually."

Dan Bongino00:09:33

You know, ladies and gentlemen, when you're doing things that Democrats—the socialist anti-liberty Democrats who just got into office and some who are already still there now and got reelected—when you're doing what they want and you claim you're a Republican, you're claiming you're a Republican. You're not actually a Republican. It's okay. You're allowed to file articles of impeachment. But stop pretending you're on our team, welching off like a parasite, you know, like a tick embedded in the blood supply of the Republican Party, off our volunteers and others, and pretending you're on Team GOP or Liberty.

You're not on that team. You're on the other team. You're on the socialist team. This is exactly their tactic. They ran on affordability and inflation and economic and wallet issues and immediately pivoted on day one to impeaching Pete Hegseth, Donald Trump, Kash Patel, and anyone else. I got the receipts coming up. Why are you doing their bidding? Secretary of War Pete Hegseth responded earlier this morning and gave an eloquent response to this ridiculous, ridiculous Massie-Ro Khanna—Massie and his socialist buddies—effort to get rid of people in the Trump administration.

And the crazy thing is, goofball Massie even admits he's impeaching Pete Hegseth because he was effective at taking out America's enemies. He even admits it. Here was the secretary's response earlier this morning. This was well done. Check this out.

Speaker 400:11:00

He's done a great job. I mean, I've worked with him every single day on many of these topics. I've seen the work he does and the professionalism he brings to it. He's very smart. He works very hard. He puts a lot of hours into this. And on all the policy issues we've worked on together, I think he's done a very good job.

Dan Bongino00:11:17

That looked like Rubio. But regardless, there's Secretary Rubio on Hegseth. Folks, again, I'm really sorry you bought this. I'm sorry you bought the shtick, the act, the clown show this guy's putting on, wasting your freaking time. High crimes and misdemeanors? For being the Secretary of War and carrying out lawful commands from the CIC, commander in chief? Wasting our freaking time up on the hill in a lame duck session? We can actually get things done before the socialist crazies come into office?

And by the way, political revolutions happen quick. They happen fast. I told you. Stay tuned. Buckle up. By the way, I got Ben Shapiro coming up later in the show. We're going to talk about exactly this. These political revolutions happen fast. I've lived through 10, 15 of them in the last 10 years. Boom, boom, boom. They happen like that. Buckle up. Get ready for 9,000 RPMs going forward. Now, Tom Massie's America First, right? America First guy. He believes to be America First.

Tom Massie, did you? Always lying, by the way, at how much money was spent in his campaign. He takes the total amount spent in the whole campaign. And he claims falsely it was spent against him. And his bot army out there, they'll community note anything you put up about Tom Massie. Here's a ChatGPT I asked. Tom Massie, you know, Lloyd Austin. Remember Lloyd Austin? He was the Defense Secretary under Joe Biden. Remember Joe Biden didn't even know his name?

He was like, "That guy over there, the black guy or something." He didn't even know his name. Did he impeach Secretary—remember the Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin, under Biden when he disappeared? He had some kind of health crisis and nobody knew where he was. Kind of weird, right? What if there was some nuclear strike or terror attack? They impeach him over that, Massie? What about Barack Obama? Barack Obama, by the way, if you were a real libertarian—oh, look at this. We got a ChatGPT. Has Congressman Tom Massie ever introduced articles of impeachment against Obama, Biden, or Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin?

No. There is no documented record of him being the primary sponsor of articles of impeachment against any of those three officials. You can read it yourself. I thought he was America First. Remember when Barack Obama—Barack Obama, by the way. Put up that other ChatGPT. I'm going to go a little out of order, given that I played the Rubio one already. Did Tom Massie, when he impeached him, did he impeach Obama over Obama?

Obama authorizing military strikes. And by the way, I'm not saying that killing this terrorist was wrong. I'm just telling you. If it was all about his principles, right? MUH principle, Massie. It may have been years ago. It's not now. He is a child who has a vendetta against President Trump and Secretary of War Pete Hegseth because he lost, handily, in his own district where he'd been there for seven terms. Put up that ChatGPT I asked about Obama. Where was the impeachment against him? Did President Obama assert the authority to kill American citizens overseas who were a national security threat?

You're like, "No way Obama did that." Yes. President Barack Obama explicitly asserted the legal authority to order the targeted killing of American citizens overseas without a criminal trial under certain national security circumstances. His administration not only asserted it, but exercised it. By the way, I'm not telling you that Alalaki, that killing Ammar Alalaki was a bad idea. I'm telling you that this other guy, Massie, is a fraud. There were no articles of impeachment he pushed forward on these guys.

Only President Trump's Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth. Here's this clown. I want to say it's so bad. I'm just—this complete joker, Massie. Here he is yesterday. The most dangerous place in America is between this guy and a camera. This guy has no principles at all. I will never forget. When I met him, you know how many times these cases he keeps talking about on X, where everybody's just interested in due process?

Let this happen. Do you know how many times he brought these things up to me? Zero. He never cared at all. Here he is yesterday, glomming onto the cameras. This total sellout and fraud. Trying to be like the funny guy now? What is he like? You know, that clown Dave Chappelle now? Here, check this guy out.

Speaker 500:16:05

I saw the Secretary have scheduled his own press conference that they're going to let him deliver a rebuttal. And to that point, I hope he addresses the eight articles and doesn't get up and misquote the Bible in Quentin Tarantino fashion and do some pull-ups and, you know, call everybody fat and gay for this impeachment. I may have just given you half his speech. I don't know. But I would like to see him go through the eight articles of impeachment and just make the argument from a podium.

You can use notes. Get the lawyers to help you. Tell us why you are not guilty of each of these eight articles of impeachment. I hope that's what he does.

Dan Bongino00:16:48

Folks, this is the exact same argument the socialist, tyrannical, fascist Democrats coming into office under the DSA banner are making now. That the President is not, in fact, the commander in chief, which has been litigated over and over and over again, and that somehow the legislative body gets to make military decisions in place of the commander in chief. Yet he did not make the same argument about Obama, about Biden, and about Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin under Biden, who made far more controversial decisions.

Again, to his supporters, I understand what it's like when you're blinded by your loyalty to this guy. I get it. You're like, "Oh, we love him no matter what." Then just be honest. Stop saying it's about principles. It is not. This has nothing to do with principles. This is wasting everybody's time. I put those clips out of order earlier in the show, but here's the Secretary of Hegseth addressing this absolute clown. You hear him? "Man, maybe he'll do some pull-ups or something." What an asshole.

I mean, really. And I'm telling you, you may say, "Oh, well, you got a grudge too." Folks, I'm human. It's hard to be totally objective when you realize working with this guy that he's the biggest fraud on planet Earth. But if you do the right thing, you do the right thing. I'm willing to forgive anyone. And, you know, whatever. This guy has no interest in that. He's going to launch some third-party candidacy for the presidency or even worse, launch a candidacy under the Republican banner he's trying to destroy.

And people who don't realize he's a fraud are going to fall for this shtick until they don't. Here's Hegseth responding. Check this out.

Speaker 600:18:31

The cartels, Maduro, Yemen, every one was a lawful operation ordered by the commander in chief, then ordered by myself, notified to Congress, and executed by American warriors who did their jobs. We destroyed terror regimes' capabilities. We sank the boats carrying poison into our communities. We put a narco dictator in handcuffs. These are not high crimes. This is the job. And it's the job well done.

As to the claim that the American military targets civilians, well, that is a lie. And that is a slander against every professional who flew, sailed, and fought on these missions. The only people who target civilians are the terrorists that we hunt. And I will dignify this claim no further. These resolutions are a farce. They mock the Constitution. They attack the chain of command. And they criminalize the warfighters who execute lawful orders.

Dan Bongino00:19:31

I just want to be clear in case it's any way unclear. I 100% stand with Secretary of War Pete Hegseth on this. 100%. No wavering. Not 99.9, repeating decimal, 100%. Hegseth accurately called out a group of U.S. senators and congressmen who use their military bona fides to suggest to military officers that they should somehow disobey orders. And Massie not only takes their side, he wants to impeach the Secretary for calling out a bunch of crazed Democrats who filmed the video suggesting our military should disobey lawful orders.

Oh, Dan, they said the opposite. You know exactly what they meant. You know exactly what they meant. That's why they're putting up billboards near military bases and elsewhere, trying to break the chain of command. This is part of their nihilist destructive policy to destroy the chain of command that our military. Massie playing right into it. Right into it. Taking the side of Nicolás Maduro, an accused narco terrorist. Oh, but he was a head of state. He's a freaking accused, indicted narco terrorist sitting in a U.S.

prison. He's your buddy now? Oh, but I'm America First. Sure you're America First, Tom. Sure. Folks, I'm sorry if you got scammed and suckered and rug pulled or worked, whatever word you want to use. But I promise you, you did. And if you saw this joker like I did, you would be so unbelievably disappointed. Remember, this would be the most destructive political narrative you've ever seen. Your entire pre-existing notion of who this guy is is completely wrong if you're a supporter.

He may have been years ago. I don't know. I didn't meet him years ago. I don't know what happened to him. All I'm telling you is the person you thought he was, he is definitely not now. Folks, they're not just going after Pete Hegseth. They're not just going after President Trump. They're going to go after people like Stephen Miller. They're going to go after Kash. I said last night on Jesse Waters' show, probably going to come after me too. Whatever, man. Do your thing. Everybody in that administration knew exactly what they were signing up for. We're dealing with a bunch of Massie, Ro Khanna, you know, Mark Kelly, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, tyrants who are going to do what they're going to do.

They love to weaponize government. That's their thing. Everybody knew what they were getting into. No one wants it, but everyone's prepared for it. I hope that makes sense. I've got a clip coming up of Constitutional Attorney John Yu, who's got a deep body of work in the legal space in the federal government, talking about how this is not what they're planning to do with weaponizing Congress over the next two years. I thought they were going to focus on affordability. Good luck with that. They changed like that. It didn't even take a day. They're going to focus on sham trials and star chamber trials up there on Capitol Hill.

Folks, most of this is not even constitutional. Congress, the House of Representatives, and the United States Senate. Listen to me. Because there are liberals listening who are, frankly, pretty dumb and won't understand this. They are not an investigative body in a law enforcement function. Yes, they have oversight. And they are allowed to investigate agencies, to be crystal clear. They are not a law enforcement investigative body, however. Whatever they investigate or provide oversight on has to have a "legitimate legal purpose" or "legitimate oversight purpose."

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They're not doing this. They're engaged in what is clearly a partisan witch hunt against members of the Trump administration, and Massie fell right in and voluntarily walked right in like the well in that movie 300. This party, he didn't have to get kicked in. He jumped in. Quick break, and I'll show you what I mean. I'm not even sure any of this is constitutional, what they're planning to do. Matter of fact, I know it's not. Quick break. Look, whether you've got 50 pounds to lose or the last five stubborn pounds losing weight, everybody knows it's frustrating.

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So this leftist congressman, he's like, "Hey, I'm a gay guy, and I'm really petty. So we're just going to go after people." He's basically saying on digital recording that what he's doing is not even remotely constitutional. They are supposed to provide oversight based on legislative priorities, bills that passed, agency functioning. They're not a criminal investigative body. Here's John Yu on Fox explaining exactly this, how the Democrats are going to have a real problem going forward. All these hearings, they're talking about prosecuting people.

They're not a prosecutorial body either. Check this out.

Speaker 700:25:42

Congress doesn't just have a fishing permit to conduct investigations of whoever it wants for whatever reason. It has to have a legitimate purpose involved in reviewing the performance of federal programs or passing new legislation and new funding. Moreover, you can't really go after Stephen Miller. There's a long tradition. The White House aides do not have to testify before Congress because they're just acting as part of the White House. So if Congressman Garcia, who can't answer yes or no, and by the way, the answer is no, Congress is not allowed to prosecute people.

But if you can't get past that, what you have to do is investigate the agencies. So if Congressman Garcia wants to ask questions about immigration enforcement, the proper place to go is DHS. Stephen Miller and, in fact, all White House aides may have a constitutional privilege not to appear before Congress because the Supreme Court has recognized that privilege extends to the discussion between the President and his highest aides about national security, defense, military affairs, and law enforcement.

Dan Bongino00:26:46

Folks, this is a critically important point. Congressman Garcia, Democrat tyrant, is running into really dangerous white-cap kind of waters right now by admitting to the entire world that this investigative oversight he's attempting to provide with the incoming socialist tyrannical Congress is all about his pettiness. He actually used the word. Andy, can you find that, Garcia, petty? You'll see it.

Sorry, I should have thrown it in the rundown. He's admitting it. He's telling you none of this is being done to fulfill our constitutional oversight role. It's just being done because we're vindictive. You don't think people are going to play this clip over and over and over again? Folks, you know, again, I know there are liberals listening who don't understand the three branches of government. The prosecutorial arm of the government lies under the executive branch.

The President, the DOJ, and the FBI does the investigating. They're the Federal Bureau of Investigating, not prosecuting. Once they're done investigating, they hand a memo over to the prosecutors and Department of Justice. They run with it in court. That's on them. They all fall under the President, not Congress. And then Massie falls right in line. It is incredible how many people are getting suckered by this, this weaponization of government. What is even remotely liberty-oriented about this?

Remotely. What's America First about this? I don't understand. I'm missing it. Oh, you have it already? Wow, you guys are fast. Here is this incoming oversight clown, this joker, again, saying things I thought the left canceled people for. You're not allowed to use stereotypes about gay people being petty. I'm not. He is. He's admitting it. This is that bravado you see after, and both parties do it, by the way, after a party takes over and thinks they have a mandate and they don't.

They don't have a mandate. The Democrats won resoundingly because they snookered a bunch of people into believing it was about affordability. Do you know how quickly the political winds are going to change when people find out what the Democrats really got in there for? They got in there for this, for fake investigations into Trump personnel while affordability gets flushed down the toilet. Check this out.

Speaker 800:29:09

Just because you're Kimberly Goldfeil

Speaker 100:29:11

or you're Christine Owen or you're Pam Bondi and you're no longer in office, that doesn't mean that we're still not interested in accountability for all of your crimes and grift. We're not going to forget, like, you know, we can't forget about these folks that are causing harm. Like, you know, I think it's like, I mean, maybe it's because I'm gay, but like, you know, pettiness is a thing. Like, I am mad, you know?

Like, I think this is a moment in history where all the young people, like in their families, in their classrooms, they have to know that what's happening right now is wrong. And to just move on does a disservice to the future of our country.

Dan Bongino00:30:00

I can't say this enough. Congress is not a law enforcement investigative body. You have evidence of what he calls a grift or a crime. Pass it off to the Department of Justice. Donald Trump has said many times, you can look it up yourself, that I don't care if you're in my administration, a Republican or a Democrat, they will investigate it. That's not his job. Folks, political revolutions happen fast.

Tattoo this on your brain. I was having a conversation with this doctor friend of mine yesterday about some blood work I did. Good man. But we got talking about a little bit of politics at the end. And he's like, listen, Election Day was a nightmare. I said, yes, it was. We got it dust off. Dust off. Jay-Z, get that dust off your shoulder, whatever that song is. Get it off your shoulder. It's time to get. We got an election in less than two years. It's over. Don't do what the Democrats do and vote and act on purely emotion. Act on problem solving.

There are problems. I said this on the radio yesterday. After someone dies in your family, tragically, you have to, at that point, there's no problem to solve. The person said you have to just focus on the emotions. And eventually, over time, Elizabeth Kübler-Ross go through the seven stages, right? Some of you will get that. That's not this. The party's not dead. We've been told the party's dead a thousand times when Obama won and Donald Trump won two and a half times.

It's time to focus on the emotions. In other words, get rid of them and let's move on and solve problems. Because the Democrats, we have a big problem for us. After the carnage, it was election night. The Democrats have a big problem. The Democrats' problem is they're cowards. And cannibalism theory works in the Democrat Party. We clean up our messes. We've had groups of people who pop up with this anti-Semitic crap. Folks, it happens like every 10 years or so.

We crush it, wipe it out, move on. The Democrats, this is a staple of their business, anti-Semitism. It is. You know, we've rebelled against rhinos in our own party. I lived through the whole Tea Party where we basically wiped out an entire class of establishment politicians and brought in a fresh new crop of faces, which I think will happen the next time in 2028. The Democrats are too weak to stand up to people in their own party doing things that will create a political suicide for them.

That's why my cannibalism theory is so profound and deeply impacts the left. Cannibalism theory is this: you will never be radical enough for Democrat leftists committing to destroying the United States. That's their only goal. And until you say, "We hate the Jews. We hate the white man. We're going to do land acknowledgements, steal everybody's property, steal everybody's healthcare, jail ICE agents, and defund the police," until you say that, you are the enemy.

No. Surely they'll accommodate some moderation. I'm sorry you fell for that on the left. Here, receipts incoming. The Republican Party recognizes internal threats. Sometimes it takes a while. We always clean out the garbage. The left embraces them. They let this socialist anti-Semitic cancer in their tent and they love it. Here, I want to show you this. Here is Congressman-elect Brad Lander. He'll come up later too.

I'm going to address this with Ben Shapiro in a little bit. This congressman from New York, Brad Lander, elect. He just defeated a Republican? No. He defeated a Democrat in the primary. The Democrat he defeated was Dan Goldman. You're like, Dan Goldman? Wasn't that that lunatic on the Trump impeachments and the Russia hoax? That guy's crazy. Oh, yeah. So how did he lose to Brad Lander? The answer is because Brad Lander was crazier.

But here's the kick in the nuts. Brad Lander is still not crazy enough. Here's Brad Lander. I don't know if he was out in the street jogging or walking or whatever. He's sweating like he just ran a freaking Ironman. Here's Brad Lander. They ask him, "What's like the first thing you want to do?" Again, does he talk about affordability? Nah. Talks about impeachments and weaponization of government. You'd think, "Oh, that definitely gives him a pass on the left." Oh, no. Check this out.

Speaker 800:34:33

I'd like to peach Pete Hegseth. I'd like to see us impeach Kash Patel. I'd like to see us impeach RFK Jr., all of whom look to me like they have betrayed the requirements of their office. And I would love to put that before the Senate and let's see how senators vote on those impeachments.

Dan Bongino00:34:54

I thought this was about affordability. Now, if you're a leftist, you're probably saying, "Wow, look, this guy." If you're a leftist who doesn't know what we know about how the left eats itself alive, ladies and gentlemen, listen to me. Listen. This is important. Take a note. Flag it. We haven't done red flags in the chat in a long time. Republicans clean up their messes. Democrats embrace them. And you will never be messy enough. I see those flags in the chat. Bring it on, kids.

Bring it on. You are never crazy enough. The DSA and the Free Palestine Islamo fanatics want you dead and they want the destruction of the, look at that chat, want the destruction of the United States. That's not good enough. This was just a few months ago. Brad Lander tried to show up at one of these Islamo fanatic, nutbag, Democrat socialist rallies. The same guy who just defeated a Jewish congressman, Dan Goldman, a far-left radical, saying, "I'm even more radical than him."

You would think this guy would show up at an Islamo fanatic rally, Brad Lander, and be celebrated. Oh, no. Oh, no. That's not what happened at all. What is this, Freedom News.tv? Hat tip to them. I want you to watch what happened to him at a rally of Islamo fanatics where even he wasn't radical enough. Folks, nobody, nobody steps on ranks better than Democrats. They embrace the lunatics and the lunatics will eventually cannibalize them and eat them alive. Check this out.

Speaker 900:36:45

You are a Zionist. We don't need you. We don't need your help. The people of South Asia.

Dan Bongino00:36:52

Do you see the pain? Can you guys see? Can you get the screenshot at the end where he's leaning in? Brad Lander's leaning in like, "Please, I'm one of you. I'm one of you. I don't like the Jews either." Well, do you want to kill them? No, you're not welcome here. The guy's like, "You're not welcome here." What did he say? We got to get down to business or something? We got to get down to business or something like that. They're at this rally. He's not crazy enough for these people.

Folks, I warned you, man. This guy's like, "Look at me. I'm one of you guys." The Democrats embrace their crazies. The Republicans clean up their mess. Look, just bargaining. Please, look. Hey, buddy. Hey, I'm on your team. The guy's telling him, "Get out of here." I don't even know who that guy is. Get out of here. Beat it. He's beating a drum. He's like literally beating a drum. And you know I hate that one. He's got a drumstick. He's using it like a pointer. Get the hell out of here.

Folks, in the beginning of the show, I told you, I warned you about Massie. Whether you took the warning or not, I'm sorry if you didn't. And watching him get dragged on a platform that he's used a bot army to manipulate, X yesterday, was unusual. They usually have better control over that, him and his little minions and bots. Got destroyed from basically every corner of the interwebs yesterday. I warned you about Massie.

I wish you would have listened. I also warned you too about how this relentless, insane, neurotic, and sociopathic obsession with Israel and the Jews is an absolute recipe for self-destruction. It is the oldest conspiracy theory in the world. And I'm glad the masks have now finally come off. They have? Yes. I've told you over and over, this isn't even this Islamo fanatic obsession is not even about the Jews.

Sure, it's a part of it. It is about freedom and liberty. The Islamo fanatics want to impose a theocracy on us. Democracy gets in the way. They cannot have a Middle Eastern democratic state like Israel. It is a power play. You think it's about the Jews because some idiot on the Folex MAGA right told you it was. It's about you. Their own line, the Islamo fanatics, is first we get the Saturday people, i.e., the Jews.

Then we get the Sunday people, i.e., you. You think these same people who can't even accept radical leftist congressman-elect Brad Lander are going to accept you? Oh, no. I said something bad about the Jews once. Good luck. We'll behead you last. And don't worry, we'll use the sharp razor instead of the rusted chainsaw. Oh, thanks. They took the masks off quick. They saw they were going to win a midterm election.

And all the people who told you, "Hey, get with us. It's really about Netanyahu and Israel." Fine. You got a beef with Netanyahu, whatever. I don't agree with them on everything. You got a beef with the Israeli government. I got a lot of beefs with them. I think they did with the, you know, the Supreme Court was a total mess and then they fixed it and then they back and away. I have a lot of beefs with foreign policy in a lot of different countries. But we were told that's what it was about, correct? Oh, no. This isn't about anti-Semitism of the Jews. Really? How quickly? The snap of a finger.

They see the electoral tide turning. They see now they have a pass to do crazy stuff I warned you about. And now they're just straight up going, they're going full Holocaust now. They're like, "Hey, in Philly, we're going to protest businesses." Why? Why are they going to protest them, Justin? Well, because they're run by Jews. I don't know about Netanyahu. What is Netanyahu own the business? The mask is off. Here's Fox coverage in case you think I'm making any of this up. I'm really sorry if you got suckered into this one too. Check this out.

Speaker 1000:41:03

Off your police arrested three people after two hours of clashes between roughly 300 pro-Palestinian protesters and counter-protesters supporting Jewish business owners. The anti-Zionist group called Philly Bike on Your Left organized the protest. They rode bicycles around Philadelphia's Rittenhouse Square and called for a boycott of six local businesses. But police say roughly 200 counter-protesters showed up to support those Jewish business owners. One of those protesters believes Jewish people are being blamed for the policies of the Israeli government.

Speaker 1100:41:37

Hating on Israeli people and then extending it and hating on Jews in general is exactly what it is. Anti-Semitism. And this on the night of Kristallnacht is really anti-Semitism.

Speaker 1000:41:48

Yeah, Aisha, the timing is significant here because the protest happened on the eve of the anniversary of Kristallnacht.

Dan Bongino00:41:55

Timing, I'm sure, was just an accident too, folks. You know, mass murder. Are you really prepared to embrace these Folex MAGA people who are trying to destroy everything we built together over some fake conspiracy theory that somehow like the Jews run your life? It's insane. It's insane. Flip just like that.

Folks, the liberals love this stuff. This is now a staple platform of their party. You doubt me? Josh Shapiro, the Jewish Democrat governor of the state of Pennsylvania, there were rumors and very strong rumors amongst some of these weren't even anonymous sources that Josh Shapiro, despite what the Democrats perceived as being a successful governorship of Pennsylvania, not me, but the Democrats, was eliminated from contention to be Kamala Harris's VP candidate during the presidential campaign simply because he was Jewish.

This is a staple of their party at the national level. You want to own that, step on that rake, you go right ahead. We'll fight it, but it's not coming in our party. No way. I want you to remember something, folks. There's a lot of Johnny come lately here. You and I have been through this. I've been a candidate, an activist for well over a decade. It goes back to 2011. So have you. You've knocked on the doors. You built this MAGA movement. You built the reconstruction of the Republican Party.

We're not forfeiting it over to a bunch of nihilist crazy freaking lunatics who want to burn this tent down from the inside. We're not doing it. And I've been begging forever. And this is where I'm just, I get really upset sometimes that people didn't believe me. You have to be transactional in politics. You cannot let emotions, you can't let, you can't fall in love with candidates. You have to fall in love with ideas. I know it's hard. Listen, it's hard for me sometimes too.

You see some guy give this great speech and you're like, "Oh my gosh, that's my guy." And then you find out, you look up his voting record and you find out the guy's all hat, no cattle, that he actually votes with the Democrats. It's upsetting. You cannot fall in love with candidates. You've got to fall in love with ideas. And that's why I said earlier in the show, talking about Massie, he's done some good things in the past. I'm not here crapping on his 14 years, but that's not the person we have now.

Dan Bongino00:44:38

The Democrats made the same argument about Bob Mueller. Oh, man, he was great at the FBI, which I totally dispute, however. They were like, "He served in the military. Thank you for your service." He also was an absolute disgrace in the Mueller Special Council targeting President Trump on a fake Russia hoax. What are we supposed to just forget that? Because you showed us your CV? Folks, we can't do it. You cannot use emotional arguments anymore.

We have to vote on policy prescriptions that freaking work or else it just disguises problems. I want to show you what I mean with this New York Post article. Because they talk about all the time. The Democrats do this all the time. They vote on emotion. No, they don't. Incoming receipts. Get ready for a receipt kicking the chops. New York Post, November 8, 2026. California voters say they can't afford to live here. Yet we keep voting to make life more expensive. California voters just voted in the single dumbest candidate, even dumber than AOC, to be their governor.

Javier Becerra, otherwise known by Joe Biden as Javier Baccaria, over a qualified candidate who, you know, wasn't going to be a die-hard MAGA conservative guy, but would have been far better than Javier Baccaria. I thought it was about affordability. You understand California and New York, run by liberals, monopolistically, are two of the most unaffordable places in the industrialized world to live. You did not vote on affordability. Liberals, beam in. You did not vote affordability or your wallet.

Cut the crap. Stop the nonsense. Look yourself in the mirror and be honest. We are emotional beings. We don't like Donald Trump, whatever, Orange Man Bad, whatever you've been told by mommy or daddy, and you went and pulled a lever or filled in a bubble for a Democrat that I promise you is going to make the California and New York affordability crisis even worse. You did not vote on affordability. You were emotionally constipated and you crapped it all out on election day. Sorry about the disgusting imagery, but that's exactly what happened.

You voted on affordability. You voted on emotion. Folks, don't do the same thing on our side. Don't. You still think I'm wrong on this? That this election really was about affordability and expanding the affordable blue state model? That's a joke. Everywhere else? I referenced this poll data yesterday, but I want you to see it in case you think I was making it up. This is telling. This is poll data out of Florida from Politics Watch on X.

I'm not reading this wrong. The longer you've lived in Florida, the more likely you were to vote Democrat. Wait, what? One to five years in Florida was Republican plus 25. Six to 10 years, Republican plus nine. 11 to 20 years, Democrat plus five. 20 years plus, Democrat plus five. It's an NBC exit poll. Ladies and gentlemen, what does this telling data tell you?

It tells you that people who actually voted on affordability in their wallet exited unaffordable states like New York, moved to Florida, and refused to vote for the insanity there. Florida residents who don't know any different at all and really fell for the Democrat Act because they've lived in Florida, an affordable state their whole lives, didn't vote on affordability. They voted on emotion. It's the new transplants trying to escape Democrat hell holes that voted for Republicans in Florida.

People who've been here forever, many of them fell for the act and voted on emotion. We don't like Trump. Folks, even 61 minutes, this interview, so many chunks of it went viral. This is really short, probably less than 15 seconds. But here's 61 minutes. I mean, by no means a down-the-middle outlet. I don't care who's in charge. They are not. They are still a left-leaning outlet. Here's Russ Douthat from 61 Minutes, even acknowledging that the affordability economic argument against Trump is basically a force, that these economic numbers were insanely good.

Check this out.

Speaker 1200:49:05

Handed me the jobs numbers that just came out a couple of days after the election. They are very good job numbers. Low unemployment rate. That's been true throughout your second term.

Dan Bongino00:49:14

Notice the last part. These are really good economic numbers that have been true throughout your second term. Notice what Douthat accurately stated, but notice what he accurately left out. How do you accurately? He didn't say everything's perfect. Inflation came in a little hot today. We can't run away from that CPI. Middle-class wages, we still have to keep up with inflation, even though they're going up. They're going up nominally. We got to get the real purchasing power for middle-class families up.

No one said they're perfect. No economy's ever perfect. But they are far better than they ever were under the Biden or Obama administration. Far better. It's not even close. So what did you vote on? I voted on affordability and economy. You did not. Please stop the nonsense. You did not do that. You voted because you got emotional and you had to flush it from your GI tract on election night. You did not vote on anything other than emotion.

Here, I'll prove it to you again. Wall Street Journal. This is a great piece. It's by Freeman. You need to check this out. Freeman says, he's asking a question here. Do all elections have consequences? In other words, people say that all the time. Elections have consequences. Well, do they? Because it seems like California and New York, where people told us they voted on affordability and the economy, are even worse than they were. And they voted people to make it even worse than it was before it was even worse.

Freeman notes that this Empire Center reports that newly released US energy information data puts New York's average residential electricity price at 28.6 cents per kilowatt hour. 57% above the national average. Prices rose 7.5% in New York over the past year, more than twice the national increase of 3.4%. And since August of 2019, New York's residential electricity prices have risen 55.9% compared with 36% nationally.

Everything about New York you claim you voted on, gas prices, energy prices, is exponentially, geometrically worse in New York. But I told you voted on the economy. You did not. The piece goes on. What about government regulations? The regulatory burden forcing exorbitant energy prices on New Yorkers is exceeded only by the tax burden. The tax burden of affordability. The Tax Foundation is out with its latest state tax competitiveness index and again finds that New York ranks dead last among the 50 states.

Yet New York just elected a bunch of Democrat new congressmen. They reelected hapless Kathleen Hochul by, I don't know, 15, 20 points. I told you you were voting on affordability. You were voting on anti-affordability. We got one more from this. This is an amazing piece. No, elections don't have consequences in New York, apparently. You voted on emotion. Just be honest with yourself. What about government spending? This number, I can never properly digest how profane this number is.

Here's New York's budget. New York's $268.5 billion budget is twice as large as Florida's, though it has 3.5 million fewer residents. Ladies and gentlemen, that, as my brother Joe would say, is freaking bananas. Yeah, rent control will do it. That'll definitely get the best. This ought to be embarrassing, he notes, for New York's governor, but a big win last week enables her to entertain more enjoyable questions.

New York's budget is twice that of Florida's. They have 3 million fewer people. You did not vote on affordability. You will never solve a problem you cannot recognize. And you can't. Stop lying to yourself. Folks, you got scammed. You got snookered. You got suckered. You got rug pulled. You got worked. I'm really sorry. If you think these Democrats running California and New York's economy into the ground, taxing you to death, spending money at a just profound, absurd rate, overregulating you, drowning you in red tape, in their case, blue tape, is going to make your life more affordable, I'm sorry you got hosed, man.

You could have had this. Look at this Honda building a new plant, $3 billion in Ohio. This is like, I don't know, the hundredth investment by a major international corporation back in the United States since Trump got into office. They build cars, folks. These are quality blue-collar, middle-class jobs. I thought that's what you voted on. Yet Ohio just voted in a lady who appeared at the end to be intoxicated during some of her speeches. You voted out a more than competent US Senator for the same lunatic, Sherrod Brown, who, by the way, is up again just in the next cycle.

You voted for this lunatic. You're telling me this is affordability? We have the opportunity to slame duck. The Democrats did not want to give President Trump another win. There's a massive permitting bill President Trump talked about yesterday. Oh, permitting. Why would I care about that? Because it's huge, ladies and gentlemen. You can't build anything in the United States because of NEPA lawsuits. The Democrats sue about everything.

Oil projects, gas projects, projects, projects, home projects, condo projects, any project, they will sue. You're going to hurt the speckled toad, nuth, whatever. I don't even know what that is. And the project gets tied up for 20 years in litigation. There's an opportunity to put a timeline on this so we can actually build stuff in America again. The Democrats waited. The bill finally passed out of the Senate now. We'll see what happens. Because the Democrats did not want life more affordable.

They didn't want to build stuff in the United States. They just didn't want to give President Trump a political win. Folks, it's disgusting. It really is. And this is what happens when you vote on emotion and you don't vote transactionally. Folks, I don't fall in love with candidates. I don't. There is an impulse to do that. You have to ignore it at all costs. I fall in love with results, and I'm very transactional with politicians.

I didn't get everything I loved from President Trump, but I got a whole lot of it and a whole lot more than I got from any other Republican president who ran on the conservative agenda and did jack squat about it. You cannot get emotional. These people are using emotional appeals to get reasonable people to do things counterproductive to their own interests. Here, I'll give you one last example. This is Rubio on foreign aid to Israel. Why are we bringing this up again? Because we were told that we should obsess over this one country the size of New Jersey and the Republican Party endlessly that everything we do, every single person's a slave to Israel.

This stuff was insane. They were like, we got to cut the foreign aid. Now the foreign aid to Israel gets cut, and they're protesting Jewish businesses in Philadelphia, just doubling down. I thought it was about foreign aid. No, that was an appeal to your emotions. Because they're cutting, whether you agree with it or not, the United States and President Trump already agreed to cut the foreign aid to Israel while allowing them to buy our weapons to defend themselves. I thought it was about foreign aid. They're still going.

Check this out.

Speaker 1300:57:18

Well, it's what the president says that he would like for the sales he would like for the financing portion to end as soon as possible. So we're working through that in terms of how we negotiate the memorandum of understanding. But the president's expectation is that Israel is now prosperous and rich enough to be able to be a sales country. They can buy weapons from us, but we no longer have to provide the financing. It's something the Israelis themselves have offered up.

Speaker 1400:57:39

You think they're ready to go it alone and starting in 2027?

Speaker 1300:57:42

Well, that's what the president said we're going to do. So ultimately, I think they could if they wanted to. Yeah, absolutely. They also produce weaponry, by the way. So part of the MOU would also involve the ability to co-produce on some things. But on the question of financing, I think Israel's clearly graduated beyond that.

Dan Bongino00:58:00

You told us this was the big fight, right? Foreign aid to Israel. Not foreign aid anywhere else, just to Israel. Nawal Sayed, this nutbag and senator-elect in Michigan, is talking about increasing dramatically foreign aid through USAID. I thought they were running against foreign aid. Folks, that was never the argument. It's an emotional tie-in to get you to act unreasonably and waste all your time on a country the size of New Jersey. It's really disturbing how people keep falling for this.

By the way, in California, showing you how insane the politics have gotten in California. They get worse? Yes, they do. You know, in California, they hate voter ID. I mean, God forbid, like picking the president of the United States who could detonate a nuclear weapon if he needed to. God forbid we actually prove you are who you are. I mean, you need an ID to buy like Allegra, an allergy medication, but an ID to vote? Nah. Who needs that? California is so freaking crazy right now. You now need an ID, apparently, to buy creatine?

No, you meant cocaine. No, I did not mean cocaine. I meant creatine. Like the nutritional supplement? Yeah. New York Post. California to force gym buffs to show ID to buy popular fitness supplement. Oh, my gosh. I got it. I don't live in California. I live in the same state of Florida. Creatine.

Justin, you think they've ever done a study on creatine? Nah. I'm joking. Of course, folks. There's probably in the neighborhood of 100,000 studies on creatine. I take creatine. I love creatine. Holy Moses. That's California for you. All right, I've got an interview coming up with Ben Shapiro over at the Daily Wire. They have a new movie coming out called Confession, but we're going to do an election. We're going to do some chalk talk and autopsy over the election. Listen, no pig lipstick.

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Ben Shapiro01:03:17

Thanks so much for having me.

Dan Bongino01:03:18

Of course. So you have a new movie coming out we're going to discuss November 11th, I believe, Daily Wire Plus and in 100 theaters nationwide. It's called Confession. I'm looking forward to seeing it myself. We'll get to that and how you're taking on woke Hollywood. But first, just in light of the news that just happened earlier this morning, Congressman Tom Massie, my experience with him, Ben, was just awful. I've never been more disappointed in a human being. I really believe this whole shtick that he was about liberty and stuff. And I think as people get to know him, they're going to find out what I found out.

He's a cheap weather vane. Licks his fingers, see where the winds are going. This was just a political stunt against Hegseth. And really, I think it was just a disguised attack on President Trump because Hegseth's just following the orders of the commander in chief.

Ben Shapiro01:04:01

I mean, there's no doubt that it's a disguised attack on President Trump and not very well disguised. I mean, if you read the so-called impeachment charges, none of them actually allege criminality. The vast majority of them are just about Hegseth doing what he's supposed to do as Secretary of Defense. And if Massie had the balls to just go up against President Trump directly and say we should impeach the president over action in Venezuela, which is one of the charges, or activity in Yemen, which is another one of the charges, then he would do it, but he doesn't. So instead, he's going to go after Pete Hegseth, hope to peel off a few kind of wavering Republicans who are upset about the results of the election as we all are.

Again, I think it's a political move by Massie. That's why he is doing it right now. The reality is that if he were to just disappear, which he is going to do in January because, of course, he's done with his term, then he would be irrelevant. So it's his last few moments to grab some of that strange new respect from the left that he's been enjoying for the past couple of months.

Dan Bongino01:04:52

Yeah, I mean, Danny Green, a famous football coach, once said, you know, they are who we thought they were. I mean, when you look at Massie's stance on multiple issues, it's not a coincidence that they align directly with the now nihilist anarchy-promoting progressive left at many points. I mean, it's absolute insanity that people still believe this guy is somehow a libertarian. He is not.

Ben Shapiro01:05:21

No, I mean, there's a horseshoe that has emerged. And that horseshoe obviously exists from the realm of Thomas Massie over to Chank Wiegger on the left. And they agree on virtually everything when it comes particularly to foreign policy and the Trump administration. And again, this is some cheap grandstanding. He knows it's not going anywhere. Obviously, the Republicans still hold the Senate. Even if the Democrats held the Senate, they actually would not have the vote number in order to get to full-scale removal of Pete Hegseth from office. So again, it's a great way for Thomas Massie to make some headlines for himself, which is what he appears to be mostly good at doing at this point.

Dan Bongino01:05:52

Talking to Ben Shapiro, he has a new movie coming out at Daily Wire Plus and at theaters across the country. It's called Confession. Check it out. We'll talk about that in a moment. Ben, you and I have been in the business a long time. You were here before me. You were one of the original you and Adam Corolla were the original people in the podcast space. I remember because people made fun of me when I started my podcast. They were like, what a loser. He couldn't get a radio show. Who does that? What's a podcast, morons? But you had entered the space before me. I say that because we've been through this before. We got our asses kicked on Tuesday.

There's no pig lipstick here. Let's not try to gloss this thing over. But we've been here before, Ben. We've seen this over and over. We saw Obama win reelection. Everybody was like, how the hell did that happen after Obamacare? You saw Biden win. He was practically senile. You know what? But these revolutions happen fast. 30 days after Obama swears in for his first term, Rick Santelli does his famous Tea Party speech on the CME floor. And look what happens. We absolutely annihilate the Democrats in the midterms, even bigger than this administration Republican Party lost.

These things happen quick. So everybody should buckle up, dust off. It sucked. But get ready for the fight coming up in less than two years now.

Ben Shapiro01:07:02

I mean, I think that's right. I think it's also true that the pendulum is now swinging faster and further than it has in the past. So it used to take eight years for the pendulum to swing in American politics. And now it seems to be swinging legitimately every couple of years at this point. But of course, you're right. I'm old enough to remember several rounds of this. I remember in 2004, after George W. Bush won reelection and actually added seats in the House and the Senate, and people thought, okay, well, the spell of the Democratic Party is broken by 2006. Nancy Pelosi was leading the House by 2008. Barack Obama was president. And the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress. And then, as you mentioned, two years later, the Republicans swept back into power in Congress by taking 63 seats.

And then I'm old enough to remember after 2012, when Democrats would never lose again. And by 2017, Donald Trump was sitting in the Oval Office. So things switch really fast around here. And I think there's one thing that we can bet on, and that is that the Democrats will step on themselves. There is no way that the Democrats with this much power and this broad majority don't proceed to step all over themselves and jump on every rake in sight. Now, it doesn't mean that by 2028, everything is going to be fixed and we'll be back to status quo ante and it'll be hunky dory. It is going to be a fight. But I think that the sort of notion that is set in on a lot of the right, we're never winning back the Senate.

We'll never get the presidency again. This sort of catastrophism. Again, we've had two rounds of President Trump, and there was a Democrat in between. And so the notion that sort of history ended last week, I think it's not only an exaggeration. It's just wrong on the merits.

Dan Bongino01:08:21

And Ben, this kind of fatalism on one hand and unwarranted optimism on the other happens on both sides. I mean, was it Fukuyama? You were talking about the end of history after Reagan? Like, it's over. There's not going to be any resurgence of socialism ever again. And look, just under a decade later, it's back. And then the Democrats, as you accurately stated, after the Obama victory, I know you remember, Ben, that book they wrote about the Colorado model. Like, it was over. Demographics were not on the Republican side.

Single moms, young voters, Hispanic and black voters. The Republicans will never win an election again, only to get smoked two years later in the Obama midterm. Like, this happens on both sides.

Ben Shapiro01:09:02

That's exactly right. And if you actually look at that 2028 map, there are a bunch of vulnerable Democrat seats in states that President Trump won in 2024. And if you look forward to 2030, there is absolutely a shot that Republicans could win back the Senate four years from now. So it's not as though we have now reached the endpoint where Democrats have ultimate power. The greatest area of danger will be the area 2028 to 2030 because obviously, now Republicans are looking at an uphill battle for the White House. I think that's pretty obvious from the election in 2026. It doesn't mean we can't win in 2028. It does mean that if you just look at the numbers, that is going to be a difficult battle for sure.

But by 2030, one thing that we saw in this election cycle that's sort of fascinating is every time people think that they can move the rules so as to prevent the other party from winning, it doesn't tend to work. The Democrats were saying, oh, you know, the Republicans are going to steal this election because of all the gerrymandering. And it turns out when the American people are pissed off enough, it really doesn't matter very much. And Democrats have tried similar things in the past where they've tried to gerrymander themselves, and it turns out that that fails as well. So the American people will be heard. And I have a feeling that when they see how the Democrats govern, they're not going to be particularly happy.

Dan Bongino01:10:05

Speaking of socialism, Ben has a new movie coming out November 11th, Confession, available on Daily Wire Plus and theaters across the country. Ben, you just said step on a rake, which is accurate. The Democrats do it all the time. But the whole coalition of formerly Blue Dog Democrats is now, I think we can all acknowledge, is pretty much dead. I mean, when you look at a guy like Dan Goldman, a far, far left congressman out of New York, who happens to be Jewish, by the way, who loses because he's not like anti-Jew enough to a bigger lunatic, Brad Lander.

Forget about Blue Dogs. There's not even like deep, deep, deep Blue Dogs anymore. It's either you're a socialist or you're out. That's where the money and the energy is. But the issue is people voted on what they believe to be affordability. But a lot of them got rug pulled, Ben. I mean, how does Javier Becerra and Kathy Hochul in California, New York, respectively, in the two most unaffordable, unlivable states in the Union right now, given the economic powerhouse they could both be, how do they win in a landslide? I mean, I covered it earlier in the show, but it's almost unexplainable, except for the fact that people voted on emotion.

I just don't like Trump rather than reason.

Ben Shapiro01:11:17

Well, I think that's it. I think that people need to understand that this election was a referendum on the Republicans. It was not a referendum on the genius of Democratic policy. This was people were pissed off, and so they voted against the party that was in power. And it really is as simple as that. Dan, you consume and your audience consumes, mine does too. Politics are pretty granular level. That's why they listen to a political show every single day. The vast majority of Americans don't. And the vast majority of Americans go in to vote, and they vote based on what's called gestalt, right? Sort of the general feel of the thing. And the general feel of the thing for Americans, and you can see it in the polling data, is that things are corrupt, things aren't running well, that there's been botchery in terms of policy, that things are too unaffordable, that they don't like the chaos that's coming out of the administration, and that they don't like the fact that the president's at the reflecting pool the day before the election.

It just feels distractible and chaotic and all of that. And so they, I think, understandably said, I don't want any of that. But that does not mean that they suddenly bought into the transing of the kids or they suddenly bought into socialism. In fact, the exit polls show that 57% of people who voted, and again, this is a heavy Democrat election, 57% of the people who voted said they were pro-capitalism. And a similar number said they were anti-socialism. But they just voted for the party that is extremely warm towards socialism. And so the only way to really explain what's going on right now is that people were very dissatisfied with the Republicans. This is why I'm certain that the Democrats are going to overreach.

This happens all the time. The party that is elected tends to think that its victory is a mandate for its program rather than a rejection of its opponents. And this was a rejection of Republicans, but it certainly was not a mandate for Democrats to pursue, say, Medicare for all, the transing of the children, and the destruction of the American military. I think Democrats are likely to misread those signals and go for broke.

Dan Bongino01:12:52

And we're talking to Ben Shapiro. And Ben, one of the assets we have on our side, that side being conservatism, is our policies work. And I don't say work like it works like the quadratic equation. It works like they've been time-tested. Ronald Reagan did a dramatic cut in the marginal tax rate from 80 to 28%, flattened out the tax code. We reached at one point 6% economic growth, which outside of the COVID anomaly, we haven't seen since. And not only that, but tax revenue to the government, which I'm not even a favor.

I don't want the government spending more money. But the economy was so, so expanding at such a rapid rate that tax revenue to the government doubled. The Democrats don't have a similar model. Even when they try to quote one, they go, oh, well, what about Bill Clinton? You realize Bill Clinton, forget the party label, gave a speech saying the era of big government's over. And the percentage of GDP allocated to government spending under Bill Clinton was actually quite low. So he kind of stole conservative ideas and stuck them in the Democrat brand.

Like our ideas work. Theirs just don't.

Ben Shapiro01:13:57

Well, that's exactly right. I mean, the Clinton administration, I mean, the Republicans took Congress for the first time in 40 years in '94. And then Clinton had to work with the Republican Congress to pass things, which is why you got, for example, welfare reform during the Clinton era. The fact is that, yes, conservative policies work. The problem is the conservative policies are a little complicated to explain, and they take a little bit of time to materialize. And people have a baseline assumption in the United States because we've been so prosperous for so long that things can't go wildly sideways. And that if they do go wildly sideways, then it must be because there are corrupt people in the private sector who are doing something as opposed to the government that's really screwing something up.

I think what you're likely to see over the course of the next couple of years is going to be something pretty terrible. I think that what you're watching right now from the Democrats is they are prepping to go after every major CEO in the country. They're going to go after every tech company in the country. They're going to destroy the growth curve in the country. And they're going to bet that the American people blame the Republicans for that. So this is very reminiscent of the period '06 to '08 when George W. Bush had won reelect, Nancy Pelosi takes over with her House Democrats, who were quite radical for the time in 2006. The economy plummets in 2007, and the public doesn't blame the Democratic Congress, which had just taken over.

They blame George W. Bush, the president of the United States. I think the Democrats don't have a ton of incentive here to make the economy strong and vibrant. I think they have a lot of incentive to overregulate, to target, to investigate, to essentially pull the rug out, as you say, from the American voter. And whether the American voter recognizes that's what's happening or not, that is what's likely to happen. Bottom line, though, is there will come a point at which the Democrats are the ones who are blamed for their own policy here. And no matter what you think of President Trump's economy, and I think we all have quibbles depending on which policies you like and which ones you don't with some parts of his policy, the fact is the Democrats in charge of a unified Democratic government, which is what's at risk in 2028, is going to be so much worse overall for the economy than anything that President Trump has done.

It's going to make your head swim. And all I have to do to explain that is just point back to a time not all that long ago when Joe Biden was.

Dan Bongino01:15:50

Yeah. And Ben, you and I have warned often about this sick, perverse argument that we've been warned about from Uri Bezeman off on, that foreign enemies of the United States and internal enemies of the United States, what we would call the useful idiocracy, they understand you probably can't defeat the United States from the outside. We're just too powerful. It would be at best, you might get a stalemate in a multipolar war. So what they've done is recruit a class of useful idiots in the United States. And they've found that conspiracy theories have a really, really effective kind of like a potent poison to do this.

The most effective one, of course, that's been tried and unfortunately, tragically true over time in millions of deaths is the Jews did it. J-O-O-O-O. It's the Jew. It's always the Jews. Everything's the Jews. It's really sickening to me. I get how leftists would get into this identity politics crap. That's their thing. What I don't understand is how some people who pretend to be on our side adopted this insanity. But now they've given up the masks. It went from, oh, it's about Netanyahu.

Fine. I don't agree with everything Netanyahu did. Then it went to, well, it's not Netanyahu, but it's Israeli government in general. And now finally the mask is off in Philly, where it's like Kristallnacht. Let's go back and just protest Jewish. Why? Because they're Jews. Netanyahu and the Israeli government have never been in these freaking businesses. I warn people, you warn people, this isn't even about the Jews. It's about freedom and liberty, and the Jews are just a proxy, and you got suckered for it.

Ben Shapiro01:17:25

I think this is exactly right. I mean, the anti-Semitism, like what you actually saw in Philly, which is open anti-Semitism, that is always a symptom of a broader malady in the body politic. People tend to think that it's just kind of a thing that's happening out there. When a society starts to ideologically collapse in on itself, when it starts to doubt itself, when it starts to believe that it's in a state of complete disarray, then the first thing that happens is people look for somebody to blame for that. And very often it tends to be the Jews. And so you're seeing that right now. To me, the great problem that we're seeing in the country right now is a not particularly nascent anti-Americanism.

And the anti-Semitism that you're seeing at sort of the fringes of that and now kind of going mainstream in some areas, certainly the entire Democratic Party and in some areas of the fringe Republican Party, what you're starting to see there is symptomatic of a broader rejection of the idea that America is strong, that America's values are great. And instead of trying to shore up the American house and fix the cracks in the walls, there are people who clearly want to pull it all down about our ears and then blame the Jews for everything having collapsed. And that, of course, speaks to where we are as a country far more than a bunch of nuts in Philadelphia who decide they're going to ride their bikes by a bunch of Jewish businesses and yell at the Jews.

Dan Bongino01:18:34

Yeah. Whenever you hear this nonsense argument about multipolarity, that's exactly what they're talking about. Like, ah, let's just castrate the United States. And you know you live here, right? This is your treehouse. It's like this is yours. You want to rip it off the tree. It's just idiotic. Let's get to your movie. The Daily Wire has done a pretty amazing job, by the way. It's taken on these Hollywood behemoths. I mean, it's tautological to say Hollywood is woke. Everybody knows that. It's run by a bunch of liberals. It's not easy to break in. I did a movie with Dinesh D'Souza.

We did okay on it, but it's really hard to crack into movie theaters. You guys have done okay, really well, as a matter of fact. You have a movie coming out, Confession, another warning about the terrors of socialism. We're playing a little bit of a trailer right here. So tell us about the movie. Where can people see it? And the purpose of your whole movie production business, I would assume, is to use entertainment as a messaging vehicle too.

Ben Shapiro01:19:28

I think that the purpose of the production of the films is to give people narrative stories that they can understand and identify with. Because you and I speak in terms of nonfiction all the time what's happening in the world in the here and now. But the reality is people don't know their own history, and they don't know their own values. This movie is something completely different, I think, in the history of all conservative media or conservative-leaning media. First of all, the cast is extraordinary. I mean, you're looking at a film that stars Rob Lowe, James Franco, Jennifer Jason Lee, Nick Nolte, Cody Smith-McPhee. There's some seven Oscar nominees in this film. The director, Vaslav Marhul, was nominated for the Venice Golden Lion for a movie called The Painted Bird.

And the entire premise of the film is an interrogation that's taking place in the 1938 Soviet Ljubljana, which is a period most Americans don't know anything about. They don't understand the terrors of Stalinist communism and what exactly that looked like. And it pits Rob, who is a new convert to Christianity, Rob's character, against an interrogator who is his former top student at a Russian university. It pits them against one another in sort of a cat-and-mouse game as they attempt to get him to confess and to turn on his priest. And so the movie, I think, is in many ways extraordinary.

It's certainly extraordinarily ambitious. I think it's deep. Obviously, I'm talking about a movie that I wrote, so I have a lot of stake in talking it up. But I think that people will find it shocking, and I think people already have, that a conservative company could put something together like this. But again, art does not rely on the politics of the creator. Art can be done for anybody. I think that the right really has to embrace the idea that art can be done well and that art done well does have an impact on the world.

Dan Bongino01:20:59

Yeah, Ben, I agree. I think we forfeited this community for a long time. I mean, as you said before, accurately, you and I and our audiences live politics. It's like watching a New York sports station. You want to hear about the Mets, the Yankees, the Jets, Giants, even though they're in New Jersey, but whatever. You get the point. People who are involved in our show, we love having you here, but not everybody is as deeply enmeshed in this space as we are. They've got kids to raise, and you have them too, but they just they're not going to read a white paper.

Sometimes, though, they will see a movie. I mean, think about how many people watched Schindler's List and obviously learned about the Holocaust in school, but never actually saw the horrors of what happened. I mean, the daily tragedies of people's lives. It's really important. I mean, one of my favorite books is Frankel's Man, Search for Meaning. I mean, you read the book. You can't leave that book unchanged. And I think entertainment has a role in that. We shouldn't forfeit that community.

Ben Shapiro01:21:54

And that is for sure. And I can say with certainty, The Confession, which is our brand new film, it is easily the most anti-communist, pro-Christian film probably ever made. Certainly, it's the most pro-Christian film since The Passion of the Christ. And so the fact that it is asking some core questions about what it means to be a human being, what it means to be an individual standing up against an overarching state, what it means to fight for values that actually mean what are you willing to sacrifice for the values that mean something to you. It kind of puts in a different light the fact that, thank God, in America, we have the ability to fight by going to a ballot box and voting or by speaking or by doing whatever it is that we do on a daily basis.

Most people throughout human history and actually currently on planet Earth do not have that ability. And so we should take advantage of the liberties we have to fight for the things that matter.

Dan Bongino01:22:36

Ben, how can my audience find the film?

Ben Shapiro01:22:39

So it should be available for streaming only at dailywire.com. You can go check that out right now. November 11th is when it is out. We do have a special screening at 100 theaters. There may be some tickets still available. One night only. We're going to be doing it all across the country at 100 theaters. And then you can go check out, again, our star-studded new flick, Confession, over at dailywire.com.

Dan Bongino01:23:00

Hey, Ben, thanks a lot. Congratulations on the movie. Thanks for fighting the good fight and the right fight. I really appreciate you coming on. We'll talk to you soon.

Ben Shapiro01:23:07

Thanks so much, Dan.

Dan Bongino01:23:08

You got it. Ben Shapiro, folks. The new movie is called Confession. Please check it out. Important movie. A lot of fights going on right now, folks. A lot of fights. But Ben and I have been in this business a long time. I told you. I can't say it enough. We've been here before. You've been here before. I'm only 51. Some of you watching the show are older than me. Some of you are younger. We've been through these fights before. We're going to dust off. We're going to recover because there's nothing else to do other than fight back. That's what we're here for. Life would be boring if we didn't have, at some point, a common enemy of evil to fight. And we do.

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