Transcript of A Bad QB Draft, Josh Wins Multi-view MVP, Philly’s the NFC Shot Caller, and Guess the Lines with Cousin Sal

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We're gonna talk about, a rollicking Sunday. Just a bizarre set of early games, then some late games that seemed promising and then were disappointing, but weirdly, weirdly interesting for the season and a whole bunch of other stuff, including parent corner. It's all next. First, our friends from Pearl Jam. Alright.

We are live. It is almost 8:30 Pacific time. Sal, this is the first time I have ever done a live podcast right after, losing a 13 point tees because

Oh, yeah.

Because the packers decided to just throw it late for a touchdown, and then the Seahawks just decided to hand the ball off the last 3 minutes. This is why you don't do 13 point tees this time.

This is what I learned today. They're super dumb.

I don't know how I kept winning them.

Well, yeah, because you you're well, there are 4 teams. Right? And you kinda have to win, like, all 12 games before you lose a game, right, to make money. I don't know. It's it's it's tough.

That that game sucked. That that the whole day sucked. I was so disappointed. It was, like, 9 hours of Tyson versus Paul. Like, this was supposed to be a great day.

I had still football, so it's great, but not 1 game was solidly compelling from start to finish. I'm so disappointed. I didn't even lose that much money.

Well, I lost my this is my first, like, semi ass kicking in a long time

where I Not bad then.

4 4 games I really liked, and I was just dead wrong on 3 of them. I disagree, though, because I thought the early games were so incompetent and awful and poorly played, and there were so many bad QBs and so much weird shit. Shit.

I actually kind of enjoyed it. Yeah. I I guess we should've known.

Every TV, something stupid was happening, and there were some of the worst quarterback play. I mean, who do we have in the in the early ones? We had Mac Jones.

Mhmm.

Levis, he got benched. Yep. Jameis, he got benched. Haynor got benched. Rattler, DeVito, Boyle, Bryce Young should've been benched.

Cooper Rush and Zombie Rogers. All played we're all playing on different TVs all all good. We have 3 dings.

You didn't even mention the worst 1. It's 2. There's 2 there's 2 of them. I mean, really, it's the worst. Yeah.

I I I don't know when in the on in the order you wanna get to that game, but You wouldn't

do that now. I had this for later. Let's do the bad QB draft now. The week 15 bad QB draft

of everyone we saw today, and

I have a 12 person list.

Wow. Okay.

Who's your who was your worst 1 today?

I'm I know stats wise, he wasn't the worst, but and I might just be saying this because he screwed my Fantasy season. I would've I'd I'd switched him out for Bo Nix at the last minute, but Tua is number 1. And in terms of, like, who I wouldn't want on my team and I'm sorry. I know Dolphins fans are gonna get mad at me and us, but the way he contorts his I mean, there's 3 things he does that are horrible. His his his body language is such that he and, you know, he turns his body, which allows the d backs to jump the route.

No other quarterback really does it like this. And then he puts, you know I'm glad this guy is in stable condition that they, you know, they had to rip the jersey off and everything, but this is go what's gonna happen with Tua? Also, he's obviously injury prone. Also, he can't win in cold weather playing in the AFC East. I'm sure he's a nice guy.

I'll keep sending him Christmas cards. I'll never stop, but he's the worst. He really is the worst.

Well, he's the worst in the sense that he tantalizes you with the potential of something that seems pretty awesome

That too.

And then just pulls the rug out from underneath you. Today, he had 3 picks and, threw a pass that led his teammate right into an oncoming train, basically, and the game got stopped for 20 minutes. I I've been on this bandwagon the whole time, and he and he's been a divisive guy since college, and the Dolphins fans are really protective of him. But to me, everything has to be perfect. And every play and situation and the teammates, and he's gotta throw the ball within 2 seconds, and it's gotta be a quick slant.

And every once in a while, receiver's just gonna get crushed over the middle. And then everyone's always just gonna throw the ball to the other team, and the weather has to be good, and in a dome, he's great. And it's all these excuses. It's like if you hired, like, a personal chef

who

is a pizza chef Yeah. And you were like, but I, you know, I don't wanna eat pizza 7 days a week. And the guy's like, okay. And then, like, day 5, it's like, hey, I've made a pizza again. It's like, I Yeah.

Like, what about chicken? Anything? Like, could you can you make a soup? Like, no. No.

I actually whipped up this really good meatball pizza. And at some point Mhmm. He's just serving pizza, and that's Dua. He's just he's serving pizza day after day after day in these games. I just think he's a 500 or worse quarterback.

Can I simplify it a little bit? I with with another food analogy, he's the Krispy Kreme. He gets creamed. He's the creamed and crispy, but the Krispy Kreme has to be perfect. But whenever you have a Krispy Kreme, like, oh, no.

You got you have to have it right when it's out of the oven. It's gotta be 80 degrees, and it's gotta be outdoors, and the receivers have to be healthy, and he's gotta get rid of the ball in 3 seconds. But if you have a 3 day old Krispy Kreme or 1 day old or that night, forget it. That's what we're talking about.

Chang would say 1 day old Krispy Kreme is 1 of the most delicious desserts. That's what

he keep saying. He keep saying. He keep saying.

He pans it, panfries it.

He's a magician. That's not fair. Yeah.

Yeah. There's this place in LA I don't wanna name, but it's a donut place. And Mhmm. You walk in and you when you go in to buy donuts, you're like, oh, I'll just can I get a half dozen donuts? You think they make the donuts individually.

It's like a weird foofy LA thing.

I know what you're talking about. Where it's

like, no. No. We tell us what donut you meant, and then we're gonna make it right, and it's gonna be, like, fresh for you. And then you're in the donut shop for 10 minutes. And by the time the donut comes out, it's like, I could have already put down, like, 2 sprinkled donuts by the time I was waiting for this donut.

Right.

Maybe that's Tua.

It's called Tua's. It's Tua's of LA.

I just want the Dolphin fans to admit deep down they know. Like, stop defending this. Just stop.

Mhmm.

Like, I I I was big on Mac Jones for that 1st year when he was a rookie, and he made the playoffs, and he played in the Pro Bowl, and I was like, this guy's a game manager. He can do it. And he just got worse and worse, and, eventually, you just have to give up and say, you know what? I was wrong.

Mac Jones is not

a starting QB, which I then thought, again, today, as I watched him today, Mac Jones, not really a starting QB. 2 is not somebody that's gonna win 3 playoff games in a row ever

at any point in his career.

There's no situation where that's gonna happen.

No. I I even thought well, maybe first of all, it was 78 degrees in Houston. As I'm sure I thought it was it was 78 degrees. It was like it's in the, like, a cowboys type dome where you could still feel the outside and see the sky, but whatever. So he's my number 1.

I know that's dumb to take him over some games

here, though. It's a passionate trap.

Yeah.

My, my daughter's boyfriend, huge dolphin fan, when we text all the time about Tua, and he vacillates between defending Tua, but then also getting mad when he has games like he had today. Yeah. It's like your 2 brother. Yeah. I know.

Yeah. My number 1 is is this Hayner person that played for the Saints today who lasted about, I don't know, a half. And then they were like,

you know what? Maybe Spencer Rattler is better than you. Like, I don't know what

how bad Spencer Rattler is that he lost the competition to Haynor, but Haynor was in there for a brief, I don't know, what, an hour and a half against Washington.

Too long.

Nothing Yep. Nothing was happening. And we we knew a bunch of people that had Washington in teases, and it just seemed like you were in safe hands with Haynor. Right.

Then Rattler comes in, and it's worse for Haynor because it's like, oh, no. Rattler's in.

Uh-oh. So I would have Haynor.

Another insurance ad that we'd be pounded with. You're in safe hands with Haynor. And then, there he is throwing, like yeah. He had the headshots that got him the job, and then and then Rattler came in. Yeah.

We could talk about the end of that game later. That was insane.

My god. Well, it's so funny. Like, 1st year at Grant Lane, we did the bad QB draft. We created this whole scoring system. Jacoby wrote a piece about it every week.

He did all the scoring. And the premise was, like, there's just so many this is the glory days of bad QBs.

Mhmm.

But you would think at some point it would get better, and it just hasn't. You know? Like, 3 point shooting got better Mhmm. In basketball. And in baseball, like, pitchers throw faster, and, you know, there's more strikeouts.

Like, things change. And for whatever reason, quarterback play has not changed in football.

It's a few reasons. Jacoby would get carpal tunnel syndrome trying to write that article in 2,000

2. God. Alright. So I've been here. Who's who's your next pick?

Alright. Well, I, you know, these are gonna be personal because I'd stupidly had Tennessee as my, upset. No. Come on. Don't laugh at that.

That's not nice. No. No. I'm just laughing because I knew who you're gonna take. I mean, why do I do it, though?

I mean, at least you hadn't seen Haynor. Right? You at least there could have been a surprise in there. How much how much data do I have to see on Will Levis before I stop betting on him or betting on that team? And I just I I now think of it now as, like, these teams like Cincinnati, if they wanna look good, play Will Levis.

Like, if I wanna look good in a family photo, I'll stand next to my fattest relative. Right? This is what the Bengals did. They they found the fattest relative as Will Levis. 10 turnovers in that game, not all Will Levis, although it seemed like it.

He's disgusting. He's gross. He's number 2 for me.

Well, did you see Titans Bengals today? It was the first game with 10 turnovers and 20 plus penalties since 2006. Wow. 18 years since we've had that kind of incompetence. And Yeah.

You could feel it if you had multiple TVs, and that was 1 of the games. You could feel the incompetence. So he had, 3 interceptions and a pick 6 as as 1 of the 3, which maybe we call the Levitts from now on.

He would have more. They they they took him out. They shouldn't have taken him out. They should've they should've punished him further for that.

Yeah. They should've explained to Brian Callahan the the full Delom and how important that is to what was that? 5 5 picks including a pick 6 was the full

Yeah. Go for the record.

He's bad, but that's 1

of those things where we knew he was bad last year. My fault. My fault. No.

No. But I'm saying the titans, they get rid of Rabil. They're bringing this new coach. The GM wins this power struggle because Will Levis is his guy, new coach, and now they need a QB. Congrats.

Can I have Boyle and DeVito as a combo for my next pick?

Sure. A dual entry? Sure.

Yeah.

You can have them. I couldn't.

At 1 point, they changed QBs, and I just couldn't tell the difference on my because I had they were on a TV that had no sound. I had no idea that DeVito even left with a concussion. Impossible to say.

DeVito does this after every play.

He does this.

Because they're Italian. That's how you know the difference. Yeah.

Alright. Who's your next 1?

Alright. You have a dual entry there. Nope. No.

That kinda sucks. Those kinda sucks.

Yeah. That's fine. That's fine.

Some good ones

last night. You know what? I I I know there's some, like, lesser experienced guys. I should probably go with Mac Jones.

Just, like, what happened? My board.

Of course. How could he not? And, you know, I guess you have when you have coach middle seat, like, everything's gonna look bad anyway. But Mac Jones still making rookie mistakes, and I think we saw the same play. They were driving.

It was, like, 3rd and

No. It was, like, 2nd and goal from the 6th.

Right. Right. Right. And he rolled right, and he had time. He had, like, everybody beat.

He wasn't gonna make it to the end zone, but he did not have to step out of bounds, and he sure as hell did. He could've flung it into the 3rd row, and it would've been fine. It's like, oh, man. I have money on that guy too. This is awful.

What do we why are they even playing the early games? Yeah. Look. I always bet against the jets, but No.

You weren't even told how bad it was because he was rolling out, and he he was 4 yards behind the line of scrimmage. Right. And the guys were coming, and he was gonna do the Zach Wilson where he's just gonna chuck it out of bounds. Mhmm. And instead, he did, like, the stutter step out of bounds, and then it seemed like he talked shit to 1 of the defensive linemen.

Right.

And it was just like,

you lost 4 yards for literally no reason. There was no reason to lose 4 yards in

that play that any of us could think of. But it's funny. Like, having watched him as he I I swear he was really solid as a rookie. I really

scare you a little bit? Because you you praise your guy Jake May

and everything. Said. It's not even it's like comparing a Ferrari to, like, a a Cherokee.

Oh, now? Sure it is. Now. Now Why? What are you

talking about? Like an awesome SUV that you could go cross country with, and the stereo was gonna work. And Right. You know? We always knew what he was, but it was like, can he be this awesome game manager and, just kinda not make mistakes and be smart?

But the stuff that he was doing today, it was all stuff he did the last 2 and a half years for the Pats. Just the inexplicable sailing it over somebody's head, the terrible red zone stuff, the just missing a wide open guy, the scramble out of bounds for no reason. Like, it's just it is who he is.

Yep. Never got it. Change. And then the other thing I don't miss

is the either he throws the pick or a terrible pass, and they see the defense is celebrating, and then you just know you're gonna get the cut to Mac Jones just kinda stomping off, like Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know?

And I was just like, I was getting PTSD watching it.

That's how he was drafted, the same stomp. He doesn't change the stomp. He stomps down the the yeah. Alright. So that's mine.

That's my thing.

Think, like, they some quarterbacks, like, Wentz was really good for Philly and now and then all of a sudden wasn't good. Right? Like, Jamis was always up and down. He never had a moment where he seemed awesome, but our guy Josh Freeman was awesome for, like, a

year. Yeah. He always

Mac was never awesome, but it seemed like he was gonna have at least a 10 year career and be Andy Dalton. You know? Yeah.

How how does certain guys figure it out and certain guys don't? It's it's just weird. And you wonder if they're practicing at all during the week. But go ahead.

Well, I had Mac. Mac was on my board, but my next guy is Richardson on the Colts who cannot complete 50% of his passes, which in the NFL in 2024 when you're they not allowed to hit the quarterback. You're not allowed to hit receivers over the middle. You just have all these advantages all over the place to not even be able to complete half your passes. It's a real obstacle for them.

And sometimes they can overcome it, especially in close games. Like, they came back and beat the Pats. But, against the, the Broncos, it was so bad. It led to the worst play of the year. Yeah.

I like, if there was a worst play every year, like the ESPs. Like, the the worst play that what was that year when Jacoby Myers lateraled backwards that it got I like that. Intercepted by the Raiders and scored? Like, we were like,

oh my god. I can't put

there was a pick 6 on a double pass that swung the Colts Broncos game. And this is a game where Jonathan Taylor dropped the ball before he ran into the end zone to celebrate, and somehow that wasn't the worst play of

the game because this was worse. They yes. He was at 1 point, it was 8 for 22 with, like, a few dozen yards passing, right, in a close game where you needed him to convert a 3rd down. He wasn't doing it. And you're exactly right.

They and Steichen has to take shit for this, but the double pass reverse thing was a better option even though there was probably a 30% chance that it was a pick 6 or a fumble, whatever the hell that was called. What if they hadn't been play before?

Like, in real life?

No. I've never seen that. I think someone was probably supposed to be blocking that guy, but still, that was their best option. It's really bad.

And it made me sad because Lombardi, who took this UNC job for Belichick Yeah. And this is the kinda shit that he used to love, and it definitely would have been a big podcast thing for him. But now we're gonna have to carry the slate that

I know.

Shane Steichen has to call a double pass that gets picked off for a pick 6 because this quarterback can't complete an 8 yard pass. So I don't know what you do.

It's looking like a really bad draft pick at this point. I I I feel horrible for the guy, but, yeah, I,

that was nice. 17 for 38.

Yeah. And he made a comeback. Like I said, it was, like, it was 8 for 22 at some point.

Yes. So

That goal line thing because you brought it up. What what the hell is going on with that epidemic? It happened twice today where the guys are dropping balls, like, a quarter of a yard before the the goal line. Like, I don't know what the goal is going on in the

best coming up later, but I'm happy to discuss this now because I do people blackout when they're about to score? It's the only thing

I can think of.

Is it like having orgasm where

you just kinda lose perspective and you're like, ah. You just, like, lose the ball. What other explanation could there? What other explanation could there be? Right.

Do you literally, like, black out?

Yeah. If there was a big end zone for professional athletes. Right in front of you before you had the orgasm. Yes. It would be the same thing.

But you should be able to figure out where not to drop. Like, this doesn't happen in other sports. Like, Juan So to's not rounding 3rd, and then when he's between 3rd and home, takes off of the dugout. I had mentioned Juan So to because he's the greatest player of all time. But, yeah.

I I

I invited in his 22 person suite.

Oh, that'd be nice. Yeah. Was a suite. Yeah. Yeah.

Just cross the goal line with the ball. Come on.

But the thing is that it's not like this happens once every 7 years. No. This happens, like, 4 times a year in college and pro football. It it feels like it happens once a month. Right?

These guys I'm

sure Jonathan Taylor was pointing and laughing at Deshaun Jackson or whoever the hell did it in or whoever the hell did it in college or anything. Right? And then they ended up doing it themselves.

Because the other thing that always drives us crazy is when the guy reaches to try to score near the goal line, and the ball gets batted out or he fumbles it, you know, through the end zone. That's more understandable because it's like, the guy's doing everything he can to try to score. This is just it's a full fledged blackout.

Yeah.

Alright. So I had Richardson, so you're up. There's some good ones left, though.

Oh, I'm up. Okay. Alright. Let's see. I could I'm I have I could read you

shortly, sir. Board.

Well, let me just go with Jameis. I love him, though, too. Damn. Yep. I really do love him, but I I need to see there's not the excite we're not getting to the top of the roller coaster anymore.

We just keep falling. You know what I mean? Been really

bad for 2 weeks now.

Yeah. Yeah. It's not it's not that good. And, you know, I he got sacked a bunch and threw 4 interceptions, but and, of course, I had the Browns plus 4a half or 5, but, yeah. He's, you can't depend on him

at all. Yeah. Jameis is like he's like s'mores. It's amazing to have s'mores once in a while. They're the greatest thing ever, But if you ate it every night, you would just get diabetes and eventually die.

Jameis is super fun to toast Jameis in marshmallows. So let's get a fire. Oh, put it in the but We should have had a

house for this. A dessert version of ranking the bad quarterbacks. Krispy Kreme Donuts, s'mores. Who gets the mic and ikes? I don't know.

I I guarantee Shank's having a great time listening to this. Jameis has 13 touchdowns and 12 picks this season, which I mentioned because he didn't play for the first half of the season.

He's He's at 30, like,

7 6 games?

Right. He's got a case for 30

30 again.

To get to 30 30. Yeah.

Well, there's still some good guys left. I, I'm gonna go Rattler, just because the fact that his coach decided at some point this week, yeah, let's try Haynor. Just that to me, that's, like, that's gotta be on Rattler's resume. He was actually pretty good in the, in the comeback today against Washington, but

Right.

I'll go Rattler. Alright. You've taken we have 3 left. Here you go.

Give me give me a choice. Let me

We have Bryce Youngs left. We have Can I go now? Rush's back.

We just saw how oh, I

I can't

I can't stand Sam Howell. Mike, I gotta I gotta get out of here and go Christmas shopping. I gotta go get Jack a Cuisinart. I can't watch this idiot.

I actually forgot how Sam Howell's unique trait of just standing

in the pocket

has slowly collapsed on him like a building. Right. And and he did

it 4 times in the game. Like, he never veers out. He's like, ah. Statuesque. Really good.

I'll put him on the list because he that was maybe a a game they could've played back into teaser territory, but not because not while he was in for sure.

I have a I'll take Bryce Young next just because he looked good at the start of the game for, like, I don't know, 1 pass, and I wrote down because Stroud was already, like, kinda struggling in the Houston game, and I wrote down, we gotta talk about could Stroud versus Bryce be in argument again. And then Bryce proceeded at 4 pairs. Yeah.

I might have said that

on a podcast. Yeah.

That was,

yeah, I mean your team, not exactly the 85 Bears.

I I I'll tell you, I was a little depressed even though I'm out on my team. When we did guess the lines, it was, like, 1a half, then it went to 2a half. I'm like, this team hasn't been favored in 34 games, and now my crap ass cowboys team catches the 2a half points, but they they stood up, man. I think they got pissed off by that. I really do.

That was their best complete game since I looked back since, I think, the first time they beat the Bills in the Super Bowl 5217. This was the after that, the best game they played.

Alright. So I guess I have to take Cooper Rush, and then you could have the last you could have the last pick and take Wash Rodgers if you want.

Yeah. I'll take him. Although, like I said, this is the the fat family member to stand next to. You play the you play a team bad enough, and, you're gonna look good. So Bosh Rodgers is always there.

That Jets, Jaguars game, I thought was an absolute delight between the some of the quarterback moments, some of the game management, and then the Jets, who really all they had to do was kneel on kneel do something, and they they just coulda kicked the field goal, and the Jaguars would have the ball back with 10 seconds left. And instead, the Jets charge it and score. What's that coach's name, Ulbrich, who the guy is gonna get fired when the when the season ends? They can't they can't interview Bill Belichick or Mike Vrabel, apparently, even though, the season's not over. But, so they just let and then all of a sudden, it seems like Jacksonville can come back down.

Yeah. And,

it was just 1 of the dumber things. It kinda got under the radar because there's 2 terrible teams. Who cares? They're both 3 and 10, but it was just kinda stunning. Nobody does shit like that anymore.

Yeah. The Jets are like, look. Are you sure you wanna lose this game at home in front of these fans? We'll give it to you. We're giving you a chance here.

But Yeah. Yeah. The fact that Belichick met with them earlier in the year is just I I can't I I mean, I do believe it. I do believe it. You hate that you hate that there's even a 3% chance that that's true.

There's 3 scenarios. 1 is the jets are full of shit and leaking this, and it's not true because they hate Belichick and wanna make them look bad.

Right.

The second scenario is that he kicked the tires with them.

Yeah.

Not because he wanted to work with them, but because he wanted to gage interest just in general, what the league interest was in him. Mhmm. And then the third door is that he actually wanted to work with them for them, which I will never believe the rest of my life. That Bill Belichick, the guy who hated the Jets, hated them. Every time the Patriots played them, would would try to pour it on and embarrass them in games, like, despise them.

Then got his 12 media gigs this year and lob shots at the Jets the entire season, and Woody Johnson, like, can't stand them.

Mhmm.

And now he wants to work for them? I'm just my shit detector's going off left and right. He clearly they they all these different people reported it, including our guy, Schrager. So I something happened, but I don't I don't I don't know what it was. It almost feels like when, The Turk and The Godfather is, like, hey, let's meet Luca Abrazi.

We'll try to bring him over, and then all of a sudden, Luca's getting, like, the fork stabbed in his hand on the table, and they're, like, strangling him. I I wonder, like, is Belichick trying to pull a move on the Jets? Interesting. I I don't know. I just don't think he would ever work for them.

I just don't believe it.

No. But, I know. But he's not the most righteous dude in the world. I think your second scenario is pretty it could happen. Like, he kicked the tires.

You don't think he'd take the call from Woody Johnson as much as he hated them? It really depends on how much he wanted to create this record.

Would you take a call from Aaron Rodgers' media company? Hey, we wanna hire you, Sal. Yeah. Would you work for Aaron Rodgers?

Actually, I have something to talk to you about, though. Yeah. That's, it was I know it's gonna sound weird. Yeah. But Aaron, you know, he's misunderstood.

His his I I watch the network. Yeah.

I honestly think Bill Belichick would rather retire than work for the Jets. I don't believe it. And, also, they don't have a quarterback. If he's gonna be in the NFL, it would be to try to break the Schuler record. He's, like, good luck on that team.

I just don't believe it. So I I don't know why they had communications, but I don't think he was like, man, I hope I get this awesome Jets job. They haven't made the playoffs since 2012.

Well, they should just ask him. He'll tell the truth.

I think this worked out great for him. This North Carolina thing, the more I know I did a pot on it the other day. The more I read and listen, hear everybody, like, this is amazing. He has this ins he was already the greatest NFL coach ever. Now he could have this last stack in North Carolina and, like, kick ass for them.

It's cool. Everybody loves him there already.

Yeah. I mean, he and he really pivoted because he made everyone think he wanted to go for the record for most wins in the NFL. But as it turns out, he wants to go for the most losses all time in college football, and that's why he's with. No. I think it's a good move.

I think he did everything right, and I think you you probably said it about, like, doing all the media for a year. He's loose. He still gets it. He's still in in tune with the the football. Even the girlfriend, I get it.

I'm sure they're madly in love, but it really does show that he could, like, wrangle and and relate to younger people. This is gonna work. I think it's gonna work. And so what? You know, the team was 6 and 4, and they lost their last 2 in a conference where, you know, the the team that won the conference is, like, the 12th seed in, in the NCAA.

Like, he could turn it around. It's not it's not not impossible.

Well, it's also not like Jim Harbaugh going to Michigan and having to, like, build the whole thing and recruit people. And, like, they college football now, you're just basically buying a team. Right. And you're just trying to outmaneuver people and steal people and Well, and

you're gonna he's gonna reach the 35 guys. And so, like, 8 of them have to hit versus NFL where you can only draft, like, 7 dudes and 4 for a half to hit. Like, I I think the odds are in his favor for sure.

No rules is good for him. Alright. The big game today was, Detroit Buffalo.

Yeah.

Who are basically the same team, I realized, as I was watching. I know I know Buffalo won, but need the lead, explosive offense, unstoppable, and can't get stops.

Right.

So it's kinda like whoever is up 10 nothing, it's the game's over. And in this game, for whatever reason, Buffalo took the early lead, and then Detroit's playing catch up after that. But it's a it's a recipe that usually does not work to actually win the title is my point. Like, even I agree. I read this stat.

Here's a good stat for you. So Buffalo scored 30 plus in 8 games in a row. Right? Pretty hard to do. The other teams who have done that, the 2000 Rams, 2007 Pats, 2010 Pats, and the 2013 Broncos, 0 Super Bowls with those teams.

Wow.

So they'd be you know, they always have a chance to break the trim, but I just feel like we've seen teams like this that are awesome offensively with an awesome player. But if you can't get stops, at some point, that's killing you.

It's so funny because the reverse that I saw was that the Chiefs have not scored 31 points this year. And any and they've compared it to other teams who have not scored 31, and they all have 2 wins, 3 wins, 4 win. Like, they're all junk, and through the years, they've all been junk. So, yeah, there there should be a a happy medium, but, yeah, I I mean, that's my Super Bowl, Detroit Buffalo. It was it was it wasn't good.

I wish that game was it was entertaining, but it just wasn't good. You never I never thought the Lions could come back. I mean, I I know people get on Campbell for onside kicking there, but the Lions gave up 8.2 yards per play. They kinda had to do something at some point.

Now could we argue about this? Because it was terrible.

Let's do it.

That's fine. It's terrible because if it was a sneak on side kick with the old rules, I'm I'm all for it. I get it. You have to announce it's an on side kick. So it's basically it's like

say it low. You just say it really low so they kinda kick. Yeah. Yeah.

What is it? Like, 6%, 7%, something like that to the inside kick? So that's 1 out of every 12 converts their defense. So they're basically saying their defense can't stop Buffalo's offense 11 out of 12 times, and that an outside kick is better option than that, there's no way. You could tip a pass.

There's all different ways to stop an offense.

11 out of 12. 8 yards of play, it's kinda the same thing. Right? You're probably moving up and down.

Nobody gets on side kicks. We've seen, like, 1 recovered the whole year. It's like you might as well freaking buy a lottery ticket.

I mean, it's like Allen was jogging for 1st downs. I mean, he must've looked up and down the roster. So our Colton Davis was hurt. Dorsey was carted off. McNeal, the the injuries got worse and worse.

So I get it. I I get it. He's too he is too aggressive in general, but That was too aggressive. Yeah.

If you're too superstitious, it's no contest. Your defense, you could they could fumble a shotgun snap. They could drop a pass. Like, all kinds of things could happen. Onside kick, you need, like it's basically a miracle.

So Detroit the reason I picked them and lost was I thought they were gonna run the ball down Buffalo's throat, and I don't know why I wouldn't have thought that because Buffalo can't stop the run. Detroit's credit it. Detroit, 15 carries for 48 yards. Yeah. Goff ends up throwing 59 times for 4 94 and 5 TDs, but the team that ran the ball down somebody's throat was Buffalo.

And they ran for almost 200 yards, including Allen. They ran for 4 TDs, 28 first downs, 559 yards. And this is what you know, I get it. If you're picking this if you're picking Buffalo in this game, you're saying Detroit's defense cannot handle Josh Allen, and that turned out to be the correct answer.

Yeah. But it's also screwed up. I I know what you're saying. Like, Goff threw 5 touchdowns, and we had 5 interceptions against was it the Texans? And they won that game, but lost this

game. This 1.

It's like

it's the the season's kinda screwy. It really is. Well, how about this? Buffalo, in the last 2 weeks, has given up 86 points over a 1000 yards and 53 first downs

Yeah.

In the last 2 weeks. Like, I know the Josh Allen thing is super fun, but this is not how you win Super Bowls, and somebody's gonna get them at some point. Unless he he would have to be superhuman in a way very few guys in the history of the league have just thrown a team on their back, I think, to win with the defense he has. But Detroit's defense is worse, and they lost 3 more guys there. They lost McNeil.

McNeil might be out for the year. So, it's never been a better spot, I don't think, for for, you know, this Eagles team that everyone gave up on, including me 3 months ago.

Yeah. I'm trying to think of the 1 seed is a little I I saw 43% for Detroit, 34% for the Eagles, and yet Minnesota controls their own destiny if they win. They have tough games, but if they win all 3, or I guess 4 now, they say they still have to play tomorrow, Then they went they get they get the 1 seed.

Because they got Detroit last week of the season. Right. And a game that we owe it we had thought for weeks weeks, that would be the game where Detroit rested everybody and Minnesota is gonna be favored by 11a half. That's not happening.

Yeah.

Here's the here's the bad news for Detroit. This is another stat I read. No team has ever allowed 45 points in a home game and then won the Super Bowl. Wow. So they did that today.

Your Patriots never did that?

No. No. Apparently not.

Bill Belichick's defense? No. And, yeah, it sucks for them because if this was a 19 fifties and we played a 12 game schedule, they would be in dynamite shape.

That's true. Well, on the positives for Buffalo, there's some, a mini it's not he's not good enough to be a Ewing theory guy, but there's a little mini Ewing theory case for Stefon Diggs now.

Oh.

But they lose him, and they're more exciting, more fun. Josh's having the best year ever. Right. They beat Casey, and they beat Detroit. That's good.

It's good wins.

I think the big thing for me though is we I would have said 8 weeks ago, who was gonna finish the season as the most exciting guy in the league? And Lamar would have been, like, a minus 1,000 favorite. Like, Lamar, we talked about on this pod. Like, Lamar almost had to be on a multi view screen because he's so exciting. Right.

And Josh kinda leapfrogged him, it feels like. Right? He's the most exciting guy in the league down there. I don't think Lamar even got less exciting, but the shit Josh is doing, it's like watching a a senior in high school playing, like, the freshman team. Yeah.

And he's just like, I'm gonna fuck around. I'm trying to impress this girl in the stands. I'm just gonna do some stuff. Yeah. And just, like, demolishing them.

Even the flip passes on 3rd down that just have to get over the line like he's just doing like I said, he's, like, jogging out of bounds for 7 yards, and then maybe it was mostly because it's a line. I think what we learned from the Bills as bad as the defense is and everything, they are a tough out. They're really they're never we saw that with the Rams. Right? The Rams had them dead to rights.

They didn't belong in that game at all. They're a tough out, and when they get up, they're gonna get up too much, and, it's gonna be hard to come back on them. So it might just be enough. By the way, that MVP run you know? That that it should be an SP probably for multi view player of the year, but Yeah.

That MVP is over. I don't know if if in reality, Saquon ever had a chance, but he's minus 900 now, Josh Allen. It's it's over.

Yeah. Well, the thing with Josh, I was thinking about I was thinking about, like, the great quarterback seasons. So since since we were in college, 1989. Only 6 quarterbacks have won MVP in Super Bowl in the same season unless I miss somebody. Mahomes was the last 1 in 22.

Manning did it in o 6. Oh, Manning didn't do it in o 6 because Tom, it's a 1, so he's out. Kurt Warner, Favre, Steve Young in 94, and Montana in 89. And But your guys didn't Brady never did it? My guy never had the MVP, but then also won the like, he he won it in o 7 and 17, but didn't that they didn't win the title those years.

So but then there's this different title when somebody has a season like the 1 he's having that it's just like a memorable season. Like, Rodgers had that awesome 2,011 season, but then the Giants beat him in the playoffs. But that whole regular season is incredible. Cam had that awesome 2015 season. You know, Brady had that awesome o 7 season that was, like, iconic, and then they lost anyway.

And I wonder which camp is Allen gonna be in? If I had to bet, I would probably bet he's gonna be in that Brady o 7 side. Mhmm. Like, in incredible, memorable, unbelievable season, but it wasn't good enough to win the Super Bowl.

So but how many teams could beat them? Like, you you know, like, I don't know. They already beat I I I know that never count the Chiefs out. Now with Mahomes, it it might get sketchy anyway. But who who stops them in the AFC?

You take, like, Lamar? Like, heads up

I think it's a team that outscores them and gets the lead on them first and makes them play from behind, basically.

It's not easy.

I think that's how it would have to do. That's how it'd have to happen. But the the best teams are in the NFC. Mhmm.

But,

yeah, you're right. This could be a year. It would be great. Did you pick them to win, or you picked them to make it?

I picked them to win. I picked them to beat the Lions.

That'd be amazing for you. It's setting the tone for a lot of lot of sins of predictions you made

in August. In August, I thought we did well in that. No. You're right. Yeah.

I had enough for the Browns and the Raiders and just shitty teams like that. You learned though.

You learned you learned how to back them.

I'm still betting Will Levis. I learned a lot. Yeah.

Well, that wasn't your fault. But, yeah, the I mean, the fun thing about Buffalo is that it's just super fun, but, you know, the Jim Kelly teams are also super fun. Mhmm. So at some point, we'll see if this can translate. But the thing that's been, so cool about it is just it was like this thing.

I remember I talked about it, after Bill Walton died when I went to see him, and he was talking about Larry Bird, and he was talking about the when this last level when it's, like, not just the performance, but the artistry of the performance and how you resonate with the crowd. Like, it feels like Alan's gone to another level with some of this stuff. Like, he's just so great to watch on some of these plays. Like, my wife was sitting down with me for, like, a quarter, and she's just like, that guy's amazing.

Is he the best guy in the league?

I'm like, yeah. He actually is. Yeah.

Yeah. Good call. But he's just

like he just jumps out of the TV now.

But imagine what her reaction would be if she

had watched the

if if oh, yeah. If she had watched the 10 AM, the 1 PM game's out here. That's true. And then watched Josh Allen. Say, oh my god.

This guy doesn't belong in the league, or those guys don't. 1 1 or the other because they're playing a different brand of football. Well and and for anybody who

would say, no. He's been like this for a few years. He hasn't because he made turnover. He had a shitload of turnovers last year. He doesn't turn the ball over anymore.

Yep. His decision making is just way better this year. Yep. Hailey Steinfeld.

I think he's gonna be good.

That was it.

And he's got it all.

Next next game was Philly Pittsburgh, which, I stay I I stayed at the craps table 1 hand too long or 1 1 shoot too long with Pittsburgh. They were great to me this year. Pickens not playing. I like the under. The case for them was low scoring game, you know, rock fight 16, 14, 20.

But what I didn't get surprised was Philly moved the ball on them. Like, they had some long ass drives, and Wack gets hurt at the end. That's a bad loss for Pittsburgh, I thought.

Really bad. And they only had 2 drives in the second half, if I'm not mistaken. I looked it up. And, yeah, I think they just walked into a situation where Philadelphia you know, first of all, the AJ Brown thing, the squeaky wheel, AJ Brown figured it out. Yep.

If I'm Jahan Dodson, the 3rd string wide receiver, I'm complaining all week. Talk about Yeah. How he and Jalen Hurts relationship has changed over the last 2 months. You'll see your targets will go up. But yeah.

And Barco didn't even have that great a game, but

He left. He was gone for the whole Q2.

Yeah. I like the Eagles, but I I I still don't understand. I what the I based it on Russ, and I'm like, this guy's gotta have a bad game. He really didn't have that terrible a game. He really didn't.

They just never really I don't know. I I know time of possession won't indicate this, but the drives were great for Philadelphia. They didn't they didn't squander any opportunity.

Did the ball for 40 minutes. Yeah. Did 26 first downs. They were 10 for 17 on 3rd down. And the case for Pittsburgh in this game was their defense is gonna be able to stand up to Philly, and they they just didn't.

With that said, the rookie fumbles the punt for Philly. Mhmm. Pittsburgh gets the ball. All of a sudden, they're on, like, the 3 yard line. And then the and this goofy penalty happens where the guy keeps blocking after the whistle.

Right. There's no more devastating penalty than the we're about to score, uh-oh, 15 yards. Now we're on the 18. It's a it's a fucking gut punch.

Yeah. He kept kicking.

Mhmm. So they they squander that, and then Najee fumbles when they're driving again. They have this great drive going, and he just fumbles a pitch, and it really came down to, to those 2 plays. I didn't feel like they were that far away from them, but Philly played better, obviously.

Yeah. They have trouble there too. I think they lost their last 9 or their last 9 against the spread in in Philadelphia, so I kinda liked everything. I took that. That was a win for me.

I took them adjusted 9a half, Philly, which was outrageous because, because Tomlin as an underdog is usually good. But I just figured and so now they're locked in as a 3 pretty much. I know we're gonna play the few although the the Ravens is a big 1 now. We have the Ravens who won the division. We're back in

a little bit. I in the back, back, back of my head, I was a little worried about the games today just because of how weird this stretches. We talked about in the ringer Sunday pregame

Yeah.

Where these teams play today, then Saturday, then Wednesday. There's 4 teams. Right? Mhmm. And it's just I I don't neither of us are gonna understand just what the mentality is of to be ready, but, no, you also have to be ready 2 more times over the next week and a half, basically.

So I don't know. I'd they didn't seem like Pittsburgh today.

No. I didn't think Yeah. Maybe I think you're right with this weird 10 day stretch. Maybe we do like I do in the NBA where you take both teams minus 9a half. I don't know what the equivalent

would be in Interesting.

Football, but it's not it it should be. We should've known this week was gonna be weird, but the crap ass Thursday game, San Francisco and and the Rams, that was so bad too.

Is there an MVP case for George Pickens?

I saw you say that. Maybe. That that should be a separate award. Right?

I would we would call it He's like kinda he's like the

secret MVP. Yeah.

Like, when they're on George Pickett, they they they just don't get 3 explosive plays a game.

Right.

I do think I I made a mental note watching the games today, like, that just for the Super Bowl, you need to be able to run the ball, and you need, like, 3 explosive plays a game. And if you can't do that, I think you're, like, an automatic cross off.

Yeah. You know

what I mean? Wow. And and

Pickett was, like, their only

yeah. Eagles the Eagles can do it. That's Yeah. You know, and, obviously, Buffalo can too. Tampa chargers, which I wisely stayed away from.

Tampa drops 40 on the chargers.

Yeah. Very weird. Because it seemed like Baker was gonna have a reckless type of game. Right? And then he just, righted the the ship.

I don't I feel like Herbert, you know, he was really only, like, only, like, Thursday where he came off the injured list. That angle, that's how it was. Yeah. He wasn't thrown with force.

Mike Evans had a 2 touchdown game, which is fantasy playoffs. Of course, he was gonna do that. Right. And then, Cardinals, Pats, that was another west west, late gamer. Mhmm.

There might be a mutiny with the Pats fans soon. The coaching is so bad. It's indescribable. I just can't believe it. Then the coach comes after the game.

We have Drake May 3rd and 1, 4th and 1, like, the key sequence of the game, and they don't sneak with them either time. And on 1 another time, they had him in the shotgun on 4th to 1. It's like this guy's almost 66. Like, I'm pretty sure we could QB sneak him. I know we can't block, but maybe take a so they don't.

They get stuffed, and that that flips the game. And someone asked Mayo about it after, and he's basically, like, yeah. I don't know what we were doing. Like, it was what it looks like, he just threw the OC under the bus. Then they asked Drake May about it, who seems to be the only person on the team who's devastated after every loss.

Good.

He's just, like, crestfallen on the sidelines. They talked to him after, and somebody asked him, like, why don't they ever sneak in? He's, like, honestly, I don't know. I'm almost I'm 65. Like, it's a player that's worked my whole career.

I I don't know why we don't.

Do you think they're afraid of the well, they're afraid of the result because what were you, like, a 130% conversion on 4th down with Belichick and Brady? Like, if you're Brady

had got stopped, I think, twice out of 1200 plays.

Jesus. Yeah. Right. So maybe that's the thing. I'm exaggerating, but No.

Maybe not. I look back. I don't you know, listen. I I have you right where I want you. I want you to be infatuated with with this Drake May because, otherwise, you get sidetracked, and we talk about the NBA Cup and pretend that it's great for 2 minutes every Sunday.

I love it. He's unbelievable. They they for 3 quarters, they just hand off and have him throw bubble screens and do nothing that he's, like, really great at. And then they'll fall behind by 20, and then all of a sudden it's like, hey, you should throw him down wing it downfield, and then he's, like, perfect 40 yard pass, and you should roll out. It's like, oh, he does that.

Like, it's like, we just did that the whole game.

Play Right.

I don't understand why they don't play with tempo. It's super frustrating. We have 2 good players because Gonzales, like, completely shut down Harrison. Yeah. Shut him down.

They went to him multiple times, shut him down. I didn't think it was a great win for the cardinals because it actually felt like the game was a little closer. It's weird. We thought

I think they're the only team with 7 wins. Right? Or does Seattle have? I think they're the only ones.

Seattle is 8. Oh, yeah. You're right. Arizona is the only 7 1 team.

It's in the league. Yeah.

But we should talk about that because Seattle loses, and, now we have the Rams are in the 3 spot, and Seattle's now out of the playoffs, which we were talking this morning. I have Seattle division, Seattle to make the playoffs, Seattle over. Like, all that's all that semester in play. I thought Seattle was gonna beat Green Bay and was very bullish on Seattle. And I've liked Green Bay the whole year, but I just

Mhmm.

I just thought this was a Seattle week. And Green Bay finally played the game that I've felt like they could play the whole year, and that, of course, I had the other side. They were great.

They were excellent, and I just think we have to look at Josh Jacobs for these next few weeks like we look at Barkley and and we look at Henry. Like, he's just gonna take control of games. I really do. I don't know what happened. I don't know what kicked into gear.

I mean, he's been good all year, but this is Tonight, he was special.

The first 2 drives today, he he looked like Terrell Davis.

Yeah. That said, they're plus 180. I mean, the Rams didn't impress me at all Thursday night. I know it was in the rain and everything, but I feel like 40 niners dropped 7 balls on offense and defense.

1 of them catch it's

it's a different story.

But Guys quitting on the sidelines, they're in the game.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. That's bad stuff happening.

Plus 180, though, for Seattle. They could they could I know you're down on them right now, and you have enough on it, but I could see them

make their way back. Got hurt. What happened

to Gino? Do you know what I mean? True. We have to see. I know it's a knee injury.

So yeah. How

mister Howell's not taking them anywhere. I was real I gotta say I was really disappointed in Seattle. They'd kinda wrote me in thinking their defense was good. And then Jacob's really big boy to my thought. And they gave up some big plays.

They had a couple bad pass interferences. They just played like shit. It's a Sunday night game at home. You're underdogs. You need the game because the Rams miraculously beat Buffalo and beat the Niners in a 5 day span, which the odds of that were probably Right.

7 to 1. Right? Right. So then they have the Rams sitting there at 86, and they can't believe it probably. Mhmm.

They're like, a, how are we 86? B, how are we leading a division?

Yeah. What did they, that that game was disgusting, that Cooper Kupp with a a massive middle finger to Fantasy owners? I mean, no catches. Like, an Andre a Giant size middle finger, and they still, they still won that game.

Yeah. The so the Rams, they lost to Miami by 8. They barely beat the Pats, and they lost to Philly by 23. They lost to Philly 37 to 14 in week 12. And at that point, they were 56 with Buffalo and San Francisco looming and Seattle in week 18, Arizona week 17.

They beat New Orleans, which was a little closer than it was 21/14. It was that game was actually kinda close. Right. Beat Buffalo. Beat San Francisco.

Now they got they're playing Watts Rogers at the Jets next week Yeah. And have a legitimate chance now for, like, 11 wins. It's fucking crazy.

Well, they end with the 2, teams in their division. Right? I I do think this is the 1 division that'll come down to week 18. They're home against Seattle on January 5th.

Arizona is not good, and it wasn't just the the couple ways the path screwed up today. Kyler had his terrible Kyler pass that he does once a game. Mhmm. And he throws he throws it right to right after we got stuffed on 3rd 1 and 4th 1. Right.

Kyler throw throws this jump pass and gets drilled as he's throwing it. We intercept. They were on, like, their 15, and they call, a rough in the passer. Right. The guy's jumping up in the air to block the pass, and then and then kinda just hits Kyler because he's trying to block it.

Yeah.

It was ridiculous.

That pass was so bad too. That was the worst of the day. And because he got sandwiched, meanwhile, the guy from behind didn't really get him at all. There was nothing illegal or nothing, you know, even close. But from from the front, it looked worse than it was.

Some of these pass roughing the passes are real. Like, Justin Fields got 1. It's like, I don't know. There's been

some really bad ones. They're like, oh, well, they

hit him high. It's like, yeah. Because he went low at the very last second. Otherwise, that's not high.

So the cards are 7 and 7, and yet they bare I know they didn't barely beat the Pats by the score, but I swear the Pats were weirdly in that game. They lose to Seattle twice in 3 weeks, and then we see Seattle just get the tar kicked out of them tonight. Right. So I'm gonna I'm gonna be selling on, on Arizona.

And I I don't selling Arizona? You don't like them 7 to 1 for the division?

No. I don't. So right now our playoff matchups, AFC, Buffalo home for the chargers. It's kinda fun. Mhmm.

I don't know. In a 1000000 years, how the chargers could keep up with buffalo points.

They could probably play

out, like, the Tampa game today. Yeah. Pittsburgh home for Denver. We we didn't talk about that Denver game enough because Denver was super lucky. I'm sure like, Knicks was terrible.

Knicks had 3 picks, you know, and then we talked about all the Colts stuff. Yep. But Denver is gonna be probably a 6 seed against Pittsburgh.

And then Or or Buffalo or Baltimore, hopefully, but maybe Pittsburgh. Right.

The Baltimore could pass them. And then Houston, Baltimore would be the 4 5 unless Pittsburgh and Baltimore flip. So Pittsburgh Denver is looks incredibly shakies to me.

Oh, no. No. No. No. They always oh, yeah.

You're right. Because if Baltimore falls in that 45, they may not give it

But they're not putting Lamar in the shakies game. He's too good.

Right. And then so what's the Maybe you put Lamar in

the Sunday this early Sunday game.

Yeah. Yeah. That would be that where that goes. So then the other NFC South go gets the Shaquies game, or you really think Pittsburgh in the Shaquies game?

So The other South. Is would be right now, Philly versus Washington, solid. Mhmm. Rams versus Green Bay, excellent. And then Tampa, Minnesota, which I think is a good game.

Oh, yeah. You're right.

That can't

be a

shake his game.

No. I know. You're right.

And then the interesting 1 is I think Amazon's getting the Saturday night game Mhmm. Which is usually, like, the best game. I don't know what that is with those 6 matchups. It's probably Rams Green Bay,

I would think, in LA. They like a cold 1, though. Last last year, it was the Chiefs. Right? It it could be Buffalo.

They might do Buffalo there.

So chargers at Buffalo, Harbaugh goes to Buffalo. Maybe.

Yeah. It's a good enough. They got enough to talk about there. And chargers will actually have fans more than they did today. Be interesting.

The Rams have Jets on the road, Arizona, and Seattle at home. Seattle is Minnesota at home, Chicago and the Rams on the road.

Well, you're right. If Geno Smith's iffy, this they don't have a chance. It is weird. He should be better at home, though. He was wasn't we went over stats on the pregame show.

Like, he's not Yeah. The the 12th man does nothing for him.

I think I hit everything. Do we we didn't talk about Dan Quinn screwing up that, that Washington game and screwing up everybody's teases. I guess that was the last thing we didn't hit.

It was is the referee's name Dan Quinn? I mean, I I know it was that that was you know, look. I'm not saying the league got in their ears because everybody had Washington on a teaser, and they needed to screw everyone over. But the ref stopped the clock. I'll I'll sorry.

Fast forwarding to 20 to 13. Rattler to Foster Moreau, 9 seconds left, clearly in bounds, and the ref stopped the clock for more than a reason. 2. Yeah. Yeah.

And then they score with 3 seconds left, and then they go for 2, which would've killed money line parlays, but it was enough at 20 to 19 to kill the minus 7a half switch went to 1a half. That was bizarre. And then they thought they they said they screwed it up after the game, and they're like, but we can't review that. We're not allowed to review that. So they can make the most the worst error you can imagine that everybody could see and agree to it right then, but they can't change it

out of So you don't they could've spiked it in time? Because I actually think they could've spiked it with, like, a second left. Maybe. Tackle is, like, 9 seconds left. But, yeah, it was incredible that the clock's there.

There's literally no reason for the clock to stop.

Yeah. But

then Quinn, they're up 7 with the ball, and it looks like they're running out the clock. McLaurin drops a touchdown or it's sailed. I'm afraid whose fault that was. So I guess Daniel sailed it on him

a little. Yeah.

And it would look like that was gonna be no. And now all of a sudden, they kick a field goal, guy misses it. Now freaking Spencer Rattler, he's coming back down, and, and all of a sudden Well, so

how soon

is his Washington tease?

Poor house. I know. But listen. For us, we have to be looking forward to we have to zone in on who's the team we wanna root against in the playoffs or bet against in the playoffs. This Washington team's got all the makings, I think.

They haven't played a game that's impressed me in, like, 2 months. Right. You know? I mean and you think, like, they had a couple wins there that they shouldn't have won. They could probably be 3 wins lighter.

Right? What's their record now? They're 9 and 5? They could easily be 6 and 8.

Well, the

Hail Mary game. That bears, that's ridiculous. Another stupid game. Yeah. And then this game.

Yeah. Let's do Guest Alliance.

Yeah. We didn't, Yeah. I guess we didn't talk. Mahomes getting hurt, but that's about it. Oh, okay.

Let's do that quick.

He he's definitely not playing this Saturday. Right?

No question. Feel like the holiday season hasn't officially started until Mahomes has some sort of injury, and then we just have to yeah. It's just he's gotta start limping around. That's how he gets ready for the playoffs. Right.

It's like it's like a how a bear needs to sleep during the winter. Same thing. He needs some sort of limp, and then he's fine.

Yeah. But that said, not playing Saturday and for sure playing oh, because they need him on they need him on Christmas. He has to play Christmas. Netflix spent way too much money on that game. Right?

Like, Netflix's not offering throws him in a plane and gets him to Germany for all kinds of, like, stuff to pump into his ankles?

He's playing that game. That's what I'm saying, but not not this week. And that that's why yeah. I mean, Netflix offered Jackson Mahomes a stand up special. They offered the they offered they'll do whatever they can to get him there.

The wife could be in squid game 3. Whatever whatever they want, he's playing in that game. No question.

Well, I agree with you because I I guess my tech my Texan's game assuming he wasn't gonna play. Yeah. Because I think if it's a choice, you wanna just wait if you can't play him in both if he's got a bad win.

Well, because they're 2 up on Buffalo. Right? 1 1 and a half technically because they lose the tie breaker. So so be it if they lose the 1 game, but then there'll be 2 left. There'll be a half game up.

Also, if if I'm

them, I'm fine. Oh, no. We're the 2 seed. We have to play the chargers who can Mhmm. You know, barely get to 20 points.

Guess the lines. We have games Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, and then Wednesday. This is a an official don't get divorced stretch.

It's tough, man.

With the holidays. Yeah. They're really, really trying to fuck with our marriages, though.

Make it easy. Yep.

And speaking of fucking, you're fucking

tied with me right now. It's 77. I know. I know. 771 week 16.

You haven't beaten me since 1932.

Stop it before then. I, I was off on a few, but Okay. Well, we'll see. Let's see. I hit this 1 exactly, though.

I know you're gonna think that's bullshit, but I did hit the Thursday night night 1.

Guess the lines Thursday night, chargers home for the Denver Broncos. And I made the line chargers by 3.

Yep. Alright. We we split that 1. It is 3.

Yeah.

And that's what it was today. Does that make sense? Let's let's think about this. It was 3 against Tampa. Denver is equal to Tampa even though the charges got

slaughtered. Tampa's a little better than Tampa's a

little better than Denver. Right? Tampa's better, but the charges keep keep the 3 because Tampa's better. Alright. Yeah.

That's fine. A lot of Broncos fans.

You know, speaking of Tampa, that NFC South Bet, which is 1 of the only futures I really truly care about because we made such a big deal about it. Yeah. NFC under 30 wins.

Where are you?

Well, I'll tell you that Tampa win didn't didn't I didn't love it, but Right. We are right now at 22 wins with 3 weeks left. So it's like and teams play each other, so I feel like I've clinched it. NFC East is at 29 wins. They're 7 wins higher.

This was 1 of our big bets before the year. It was the n f c we made FanDuel create this prop. NFC East, more wins than the NFC South, and it was minus 175.

And And now we're gonna bankrupt FanDuel as a result. And you could thank my cowboys for beating the panthers. You could thank that's 1 step closer.

That's big. That really helps us. Big day. Yep. 2 Saturday games.

Yep. Chiefs, Texans, in KC, and neither of us think Mahomes is playing. And I'm going to make Houston the favorite. I'm gonna say Houston by 1a half.

Alright. I said 2. It is 2a half. Edge out there. You'll get this next 1.

Though. Texans too. I wonder how many times the Chiefs have been home dogs

Oh, at home.

Week 18. Yeah. He can't play. No way. Andy Reid moved 1 1 win closer to Belichick, by the way.

Where where is he now?

He is at hold on. Let me get it. He is 271. He's 31 away. And he's 5 playoff wins behind him too.

Somehow the NFL yeah. The NFL will give him the record this year. But, yeah, you've done enough. It's fine.

So it just catch Belichick. Please catch Belichick. We've decided to tamper with your salary cap space so you have more money to spend. Okay. The other Saturday game, Ravens, Steelers.

Mhmm. Which I think I woulda had Ravens by 2a half as recently as, like, 3 weeks ago, but I I'm I gotta say Ravens by 4.

Oh, man. You got me. Oh, I thought you were gonna go lower now. I said 3a half. It's 6a half.

So I think

Holy macro.

I think we could hedge a little with

our division bet.

Well, yeah. I mean yeah. I mean, we could cover this. We could when we won't win both, but we could take 6a half. Right?

And they can win an 18 16 game like they played.

Tell the audience. What's our what was our bet? It was division champs, Chiefs, Ravens, Bills?

Chiefs, Ravens, Bills, Texas. Yeah. We did the whole AFC. Yeah. Did we

did it before the season or, like, week 1?

No. We saw, like, a month of action. They were like, this is stupid. We got it. And, It

literally was stupid because we're losing.

Yeah. It is. It's always stupid.

Yeah. I think the Steelers are gonna be a even if they have Pickens, it's not gonna be a 100% Pickens. But Yeah. That's a lot of points to lay in a second time they've played AFC North Raven Steelers game.

It is a lot. I wonder what they, they they're just predicting, like, they're gonna melt down at this point. Like, they you know? Alright. Tomlin has them over 500 like he always does, and now we see them slip to the Mhmm.

6 seed or whatever. I don't know.

I was texting with, the Fantasy guys because Craig's a big Steelers fan during that game. And it was, like, Steelers bingo. It was hitting all the check marks of Right. Dumb penalty to pull them out of a touchdown, and TJ Watts hurt. It hit, like, 9 of the check marks.

Not cheap. Yeah. All

Yeah. The stupid fumble. Sunday marquee game. I think it's Eagles Washington. Right?

Isn't that our best Sunday game? No. We need to go Viking Seahawks.

You would have said minute Seattle probably before tonight.

But Yeah. I think it's Eagles Washington.

Yeah. I think you're right.

Eagles going for 11 a row. 2nd time they played. Their games are always weird. And it's in Washington, so I'm gonna say Eagles by 3a half.

Oh, man. Really? I said 5, and you got it exactly. It's 3a half.

Why not 5? Because these 2 teams play weird games. I think that's the only reason.

26/18, the last game I was in Philly. Yeah. I guess. I'm I'm down on Washington. I don't know why.

I think you should be. I don't I think they're a little smoke and mirrors those 1st 6 weeks. The most really great. Been Danez has not been the same since he got hurt whenever that whatever week that was. Like Yep.

You know, he was like lasers to everybody the first 5 weeks.

Sure. They never punted. Yeah. And they were a 2 point conversion away from the terrible team, from losing today.

So I only have 2 watchable games, And part of it is because we have 2 Saturday games that pulled 2 good ones out. But there's only 2 good games on on and these aren't even that good. 1 of them is Vikings at Seattle Mhmm. Which I that's it for Seattle. I think if they lose, and the Vikings are definitely gonna be favored.

I have the Vikings, by 3.

I got this exactly. 3a half. And, I mean, it's gonna be more if there's no Gino Smith. But Right. It it seems like he's playing.

Right?

Sam Howe against the Vikings defense would not make me feel good. No. So then the other 1 I have for a watchable, you're gonna laugh, but, Jags, Raiders, and Vegas. Really? All kinds of draft pick, ramifications in this.

Not that it I mean, does anyone even care past Sanders and No. People are gonna care where Hunter gets drafted. Sure. Will people care where the Boise State running back gets drafted?

John, they no. I don't I don't I don't think so. I think he'll People don't trust the running back. Great running back. Whatever.

He'll go where he goes. Yeah.

I mean,

who was the last guy when Bijan? I mean, the last 1 that went the ego 10.

Bijan was pretty high. Yeah. He was top 10.

Yeah. Alright.

Jags at Raiders. This is probably the Raiders' last chance. This is a huge game for the patriots. This would if the, because the patriots aren't gonna win again. If the Jags, bring back Jones to somehow pull off, win, but I have, the Jaguars favored by 2 in Vegas.

So that's what I had.

I swear I did. And it's Vegas by 1a half.

Okay. Where did they get that from? I do not know who their quarterback is. Is it is it the Riddler?

I guess. As of tomorrow, I guess it will be. The Riddler. So Atlanta's favored by 5 and a half over the Vegas, but Jaguars, they suck too.

Oh, I don't know. I can't make it. I might bet this game. Fairly watchables. Bill's Patriots.

I

think has to be 14, so I'm gonna say 14.

Yeah. I went 16 and a half. It's 14 and a half. You get that. 5 to 4, you're up.

1 thing with with the Pats, they have cheap touchdown potential at the end because that's the only time they kinda let May do his thing. Mhmm. They had another interception that wasn't his fault today. I don't know if you saw Bute. Yeah.

When, he throws throws it to him. He he did the receiver thing where he just flings it up in the air for the safety. That needs a name. That needs to be named after some, but there had to be some receiver who did that better than anyone else.

Keeping track of these stats. There's gotta be somebody that has a let's go to our next gen stats and see who fucks up more good fast.

For the fact that I fucked up and cost you an interception interception. Lions, bears, and Chicago. I with this lion's defense, I think putting high lines on them at this point is pretty risky. I'm gonna say lions favored by 6a half in Detroit. I mean, in Chicago.

Oh, you get this. I said 8. It's 7.

Oh, you're right.

I do get it. You get it. You get it, man. Do you have San Francisco, Miami? Is a isn't that weird that that's, at best, fairly watchable?

That that game will be awful.

No. No. I know. But it's it's There's

fans that wanna watch that game.

But if I would've told you 2 was the starter for Miami, and Purdy's a starter for San Francisco. I know. The the it's a brutal lot. You just

took 2 at number 1 and the bad kid

didn't know. I know. I'm just a month ago if you would've said this, but

they suck. Well, here's another home dog for us. The Jets, because they're gonna be playing the Rams in Giants Stadium.

Yeah.

The Jets have been moving the ball a little more last couple games. Now granted it's because of their opposition, but

Right.

You know, they're they're a little I think Rodgers with the enigma coming out soon. Mhmm.

I

think he just looks freer and happier. I'm gonna say the Rams by 3a half at the Jets, and this has all the makings of an everybody loses on the Rams bet. So yeah. I see JJ picking them right now on the Sunday 3 games. Although, I shouldn't talk shit because I got killed today.

West going east, McVay. Yeah. They let down maybe a little bit.

The game. They need the game, bro.

They have extra rest. We'll see McVay, extra rest, the stats, and everything. You you get it. It's 3. I said 2.

I'll don't blow this.

Don't blow this, Rams. Come on. This has all the makings. The Rams, The the next couple games, who do they have after this? They have, the

This is all West.

Right? NFC West for them after this? Yeah. They're they're home for Arizona, Seattle. Say, alright.

We'll take care of the Jets, and then we got Arizona, Seattle, and then

they're broke, and then all

of a sudden, they're down to nothing. Garrett Wilson had a 90 yard touchdown, and Puka's going in the blue tent. Hopefully, he doesn't. I'm not gonna win for that. 40 niners, dolphins in Miami.

I I stared at this 1 for 3 minutes. Mhmm. You want another 3? 40 niners by 1 was where I landed in Miami.

Oh, wow. Alright. I get this. I said Miami by 3. It's Miami by 2a half.

Oh, wow. See, that's why I knew I was off in some direction. Man, so mad

at 2.

So mad. I just wanna point out the Dolphins aren't good. Maybe shouldn't be favored by 2a half over any decent team.

It's interesting because they show the DJ's record against, teams that are above 500. But I feel like Shanahan's getting there too.

He's getting

there too lately. Well, remember, we used

to do that as a bit. We did. What his career winning percentage was? I might have to might have to bring that back.

Not a bit anymore. Real shit. Yep.

I was asking Lombardi because he came up with DJ for DJ Mikey Mac for McDonald's. Like, Shane Steichen. What what what's his he he reminded me we already came up with Thailand Shane for Shane Steichen.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

He's he's playing Madden on Twitch.

He's

somebody in Thailand.

He's like, I'm gonna call a double pass reverse. Oh, no. I got picked off. Reset.

Pooped back to 4 games. There's some really bad games this week.

I know. This was the week. That's why today was the day to celebrate, and it's great. But, yeah, those Saturday games, screw it.

Because remember, we've already done Raiders Jags, which is a poopfecta, but I put it in the matchables. Right. Falcon's home for the Giants. I have Falcons by 9. What do you have?

They're good. I said 8. It's 10a half. This is gonna be your week. 8 to 5, you're up.

I'm gonna try not to watch any

of that game. Can we see the Falcons a little first before we make them a a 10 and a half point favorite? Can we see them Monday night? Sunday might

be a let's not even do a pod.

Is that right? Can we just I

don't know. Do we even

do we even need to do it? Look at these games. They're terrible. Wow. Well, you you might, you know, you might the Sunday night game is Tampa Bay, Dallas.

Stroke. Colts, titans, another 1 I don't really wanna watch any minutes of. I it's in Indianapolis, and I have the Colts favored by 5a half.

That's what I had. It's 4a half. Vegas zone right there.

Good luck to both of those teams. Yeah.

That's another 1.

There's some bad ones here. Cardinals at the Panthers. Mhmm. It's another 1. Just be careful with this 1, my friends.

I have cardinals by 3a half. That's what I had too. 4 it's 4a half. Vegas zone. Man, they're throwing Yeah.

These are all stairways.

These are all stairways.

2 Vegas zones in a row. And then

I don't know if you could do a pre by the way, Cleveland, Cincinnati is fairly watchable. Hey. Jameis is fairly watchable the rest of the world.

Yeah. I'll move that up. Just just I'll move that up to the fairly watchable. That looks good. Thank you.

The Browns are really bad, though. Poor Nick Chubb broke his foot today.

Yeah. That was bad. He, he, felt like he broke his wrist the way he's fumbling fumbling that game away. But, yeah, this was 21 14 when they played in October.

I have Bengals by 6 at home over the Browns.

I get this. I said 7a half. It's 7. That's your teaser game. You love it.

You love things.

I don't put bad teams in teases. Sunday night also stinks. Bucks at Dallas.

Yeah. Yikes. I won't be depressed, Simmons, after this game. Thank god. Thank god they didn't beat the Bengals last week.

Because now I would have been looking at 7 and 7. Could they catch Washington? You would have thought of all the scenarios. Yeah. You would

have been making yourself crazy. So good. McCarthy won won his job back, though. Does that the Belichick shadow hanging over him now?

Well, that's gonna happen. Yeah. Dumb.

Sunday night, Tampa at Dallas. I have Tampa by 4a half.

I get this. Wait. Do do I have a chance, sir?

I'm sure

you do because you'd cheat. No. I don't. Well, first of all, I was way off on the Monday, but I have, I had 3. It's 3 and a half.

Too low.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. You're up 109. There's 1 game left. I was off by 4 points. So you're gonna get it.

123456. So we have 7 home underdogs next week. Is that right? Yeah. Always always a red flag.

We're gonna get hurt. I might scale it back. Didn't have a great week this week after an unbelievable run. Monday night, Packers,

saints. You have a 4 point cushion. Best best of luck to you.

Thank you. I have packers by 11 and a half. I'm hoping it's saints. Alright.

I said 8a half because I'm an idiot. It's 12a half.

I guess I should've just said that because it's never 11a half.

Right. Alright. So You're gonna have a 13 point you'll have a 13 point teaser with Pittsburgh plus 19 and a half, Atlanta over the Giants. You'll figure something out. I can't believe

the Seahawks let me down like that.

It just got way out of

this Seahawks by 15 and a half. Plus 15 and a half. Come on. Couldn't hit that. Let's do parent corner.

What do you got?

Alright. What do I have? Well, a couple things. My, oldest is home. Came back from Oregon, like, Thursday night.

Right? So first night home, He's not going out with his friends. I'm like, oh, that's cool. They will stay home. We'll watch we wanna watch Goodfellas for the 9 hundred and seventh time.

He's like, no. Let's watch some NBA. I was like, oh, Jesus.

So we want He's an NBA hole? Listen.

He is on this site that this is what he claims. He claims it gives you play money that you can turn into real money, but you can't lose real money. So he's GAM. I'm like, all right, I'm not going to investigate further. I know what you're doing.

I invented this shit. It's fine. Yeah. He's got like, 6 NBA parlays going. He's live betting all these games.

He's like, no. Wait till this team no. If Dallas goes down 9, I'm gonna hit him down. Oh my god. It's like my son is like Raheem Palmer.

He came home from college. I go, what am I saying? Got a burner room? He's got a burner room. And then, like, in the NBA, you'll you'll go there'll be a 19 to 2 run, and you'll be either on the good or the bad side of it.

It's amazing. So that was that. That

that scared me

more. Proud. Yeah. I was proud, and I was terrified at the same time.

Yeah.

So that's that's it. Quickly, my middle son. Next Saturday is a great sports day. Now I thought today was gonna be a great sports day too, but here's what you got, Simmons. I know you don't care college.

Tennessee, Ohio State. Alright. The the football games are gonna be tremendous. Tennessee, Ohio State, Penn State SMU, Texas, Clemson. We talked about Chiefs, Texans, Steelers, Ravens, Usyk versus Fury.

It's a Oh, I'm aware. It's a it's a monster day.

My guy Usyk.

Yes. I wanna just veg out in front of the TV. I wanna lose a ton of money. I wanna drink nonalcoholic eggnog, whatever I have to do. The problem is my son, Jack, has a wrestling tournament, and he could potentially do well in it because it's a JV tournament, and it's all day and it's all the fights.

Way the fuck somewhere else. And here's the thing. There's 40 kids on the team. Only 13 of them right now don't have ringworm or empatago. Empatago is like a staph infection.

You get it from the mat. These schools say they clean the mat. They don't clean the mat. These kids come back sweaty. They don't shower and they have everybody's dirty sweat closed up and everybody's call.

Disgusting sport you can play.

Yeah. It is gross. He's 1 of he's going to wrestling practice. He weighs 126. There's so few kids now.

He's rolling with, like, a £155. I'm like, what's going on here? It's like so I was like, listen. I told I was like, I don't ask for much, but I need Saturday. Oh, please, please do what you can to get impetigo.

Please do. Don't tell your mother.

Can you lick the mat?

Yes. Lick go all the role, stay extra, stay afterwards, whatever you have to do. He's looking at me like I'm like, I'm I'm I'm serious. Like, get ringworm. Do what you can.

So I will keep you posted, but I need this boy to get ringworm so I can watch Penn State SMU.

200 hours. I want you to lick the mat after practice

for 3 minutes. After everyone else looks to mat. Give them each 50.

What a sports day that is. You're a you're a Usyk. I'm just I'm telling you now. I'm putting him in 7 parlays with NFL teams. Every team I like, I'm just putting Usyk in.

Yeah. I just wish we knew how these guys trained. Yeah.

Him and Pereira are the 2 most reliable, true combat guys on the planet. I'm just gonna keep doing it until 1 of them loses.

Yeah. Maybe Fury has

never been stronger. Too. There's a couple good

is there on this? I

thought there was at least 1 good fight before it. My guy, Bicole, is not fighting until January, though.

Yeah. What happened there? He's not even on that great card.

I know. Yeah. I know. Anyway. So my daughter's come back from college, actually, late tonight.

And my wife was was, ordering all this food to pick up because we need my son's a weird eater. My daughter's the weirdest eater ever. She wanna get food, and she's like, you know, the maggot's coming home. And we realized that we have we have nicknames for everyone in my family that happen organically Mhmm. Based on eating habits.

So we call we call Zoe the maggot because she's, like, she's that 1 that's, like, with the the slice of pizza. You just look down and there's just, like, the cheese is gone. Or, like, there's there's a piece of sour sourdough toast and just all the stuff around the crust is just gone. You're, like, oh, the maggot must've gotten it. My wife has always been the rat because it'll be like slice of pizza or a bagel on the counter and just like a very small, almost imperceptible part of it is missing.

And you're like, I thought that was like a bigger pizza slice and she's just carefully cut, like, 1 eighth of it off. So we always call her the rat. Like, she rats it up. It's good. And then my son is the raccoon because he, like, never eats and then he goes downstairs.

Everyone's asleep at, like, 11:30. And just starts, you know, all of a sudden all this food's gone. You're like, oh my god. The fucking raccoon got in the kitchen again. Yeah.

So then I was like, so what's my nickname then? Yeah. She's like, you're just like a bear. You just eat a lot and then you sleep.

And I

was like, I feel like that's insulting. I'm just the bear?

Yeah. Hell yeah. And I'm not it's

not like I'm like a but I guess that's how it because I have, like, big you know, I I don't eat a lot, and then I'll have a big dinner. So she said I'm the bear.

You're the bear? I guess I'm the bear. Tell her you want a second opinion. Yeah. That's I wanna

say I feel like can I

be like a panda or Yeah?

You want a specific bear

or something?

What's an animal that just kinda basically that snacks during the day once or twice and then has, like, a big dinner? That's whatever animal I am.

Right. I don't

know who that is.

And is the clogger taken? You can't

tell you're clogged. It's taken. Yeah. So our fridge is, like you know, my daughter comes home and there's, like, 4 different coffee made creamers because she likes to make these homemade lattes that she drinks 2 sips of. So all of a sudden, the fridge has, like, this thing.

My son has all the weird food he eats, and it's just like a free for all. So, anyway, it's good to be back. The Sibbets family is back. Everyone's home.

6 refrigerators for different animals.

Stuff's crammed in. There's coffee made on top of, like, you know, my son's kelp noodles. I don't know. That's good. On here.

So

You're gonna get in Patago, drinking all those coffee, mates. That's for sure. Did you see

it's very possible. Did you see, evil Jason Bateman in Carry On yet?

No. I haven't seen it. I I heard that we're on a text chain when you were discussing it.

And he's so evil. Evil. I haven't seen it. Evil.

He should get off the poster. Well, he was evil in Ozark. Right?

I said he wasn't on the poster. I didn't know he was in the movie. Oh. I started watching it. It was like, there's Jason Bateman.

It's like, you didn't tell me Jason Bateman was in this. That feels like it's a big deal.

It's definitely him.

Maybe he didn't

I like it.

Maybe he didn't wanna know.

I'm gonna have to check it out. I have a bunch of my queue. I end up watching dumb shit like the New York Stock Exchange, the the Mark Gastineau. I listened to him carry on for an hour and a half.

But, anyway Did you watch that documentary? Because I I didn't Yeah.

I'm, like, 40 minutes in. I just I can't get enough of that nonsense.

Yeah. I don't can't say when I was there for 30 for 30 that the, jet sack exchange was

Wouldn't it?

The master list for ideas. Just leave it at that. Alright. So what do you got to plug? Anything?

Oh, yeah. Through the Ringer with Tate on Wednesday. By the way, the kid's breaking news left and right. On that show, we've done December 4th, they can only say so much. He was instrumental in getting this thing going with with Lombardi and

I thought he was gonna be there. It's like the athletic director.

They're Carolina. Offer you you should be careful. I think they offer him some kind of ambassadorship or something, like, to help with the culture or something. But, yeah, it's good for him, though. I mean, this is good.

This worked out great for you. Right? Like, because he retires a Patriot. He's not gonna go 3 years with UNC and then end up with Seattle. Right?

So that's it. He's a Patriot. It worked out great.

Better than that because with him and Lombardi as a combo, and I don't have a college football team. So now, like, I actually have a college football team I would genuinely care about. Awesome. I'll bet on they're over. I'll put bets in so I carry even more.

I'm gonna be all in. I'll wear They're they're gonna be good.

I was

looking at hats on Fanatics. I couldn't find the right hat. I gotta find the right hat. What is because it feels like it's gotta be, like, the light blue with just the logo, but I couldn't find 1 that I like.

It's gotta say the bear and then UNC. We're gonna see it.

Who wants the bear?

I went an hour and 20 minutes and didn't mention to ring a pregame show. I'm 13 and 2 with my wisest wager. Good good job by me. I had the Ravens come on.

Yeah. We've been going for 80 minutes, and you didn't bring this up.

That's a lot.

So you had the Ravens just straight straight up. Yeah.

You wanted to put them in a teaser. You're like, will it get to 14? Can I tee I'm like, just take 16 to half? It's fine. It's good.

They, I

get so worried with those games where you cannot come up with a single incentive

for the heavily favored team

to even care in the game.

Oh, I see. That's what I get worried. Awful lot.

Just sitting them in the locker room before the game, like, fuck. We gotta fucking play the Giants.

The Giants want this first pick so bad. They want they want it so bad. So that's it. Cousin Sal's winning weekend on Friday. And against the odds twice a week, we're 12 and 4 with our NBA picks.

Only place you need to go on Ringer if you wanna make money betting hoops. There you go.

You know, if the Giants got Sanders, that would be super fun. Yeah. If they wanna go on Vegas or or the Giants, I just think is just for us, for people who want content.

Right. Just watching Mara. Just watching Mara and reading about him. I don't know if he wants to put up with the the whole Sanders family? Yeah.

I don't think so. I think he I think that's a Cam Ward team, to be honest.

Do you where would you play Hunter? Receiver or cornerback?

I think it's fun. If the Patriots get him, why do you have to only give him 2 options? They could do anything. Make him a running back. Do, you know?

Is it what makes him special that in college, he can do both sides, but in the pros, that's completely unrealistic?

That's gonna be that's gonna be the issue. Right? But I don't know. Dion himself played wide receiver and, you know, deep back. So maybe it could happen.

It would seem like the move would be to play him at quarterback and then bring him in for, like, 3rd down and 8.

Gagit plays.

Like, special gadget plays and Yeah. Almost using him like the old Percy Harbin kinda model.

Yeah. I think he's fine. You should watch it. Did you watch his acceptance speech? I think you'll you'll get on his chase.

Yes, sir. It's 4 and a half minutes. Just do it. It's better than

Jason Bateman.

I'm over yeah. It's good.

Better than Jason Bateman and Carrie.

I didn't I can't compare it. I didn't see it. Yeah.

Because, good job by you. Great to see you as always. Thanks to, Kyle Creighton. Thanks to Steve Sarutti. And then we didn't have Gahau today, but Richter.

John

Richter. John Richter got rewatched most coming on, on Monday night. We did the gambler, ironically, with Mark Wahlberg.

Oh, you sound of a bitch. That's a good 1. And then, we'll be back

next week, Sal. Good job by you, Sal. Job by you, buddy. Thanks,

everybody.