Transcript of Fascist Frat Party

So are we supposed to start the podcast? Ready? One, two, three. Patriots, gay triets, they triets, black triets, and brown triets. Pumps is not here today, but I have an amazing co-host filling in for her. She had an obligation, and it's none other than Jim Acosta. And this is what you have to do, Jim, right now. After I do the call to the patriots, the gay triets, the black triets, the brown triets, I say, And all of the people who try to marginalize them, and then Pumps says, can fuck off.

Fuck off. I love it. There you go. Yes. I have no problem with saying the F word, by the way. I love it. That's not something I've had it with.

Me neither. Yeah. Welcome to I've had it, Jim Acosta.

Great to see How are you? Good to be with you, Jen.

Really nice to see you, listener. We're in New York, and so you journeyed up from Washington, DC. What's it like in DC with the MAGA takeover? Is it different or the vibe's different?

Oh, Jesus Christ. It's my worst nightmare. I thought we were rid of this clown four years ago, but no, they've come back with a vengeance. Fortunately, the DC restaurant scene is set up where the MAGA people have their restaurants and their places they like to go, and they're not the places I like to go. So I won't say where those places are, because I don't want them to show up there. But so far, so good. It's okay.

The last time I was in DC, I was invited to a creator event at the Biden White House, a Christmas party, and I'd never been in the White House, and I was so excited.

Pre-demolition White House.

Pre-demolition. So it was in December and last December, and it was Biden's final... And we were in there. My husband came with me, and we were walking around, and I just said, Josh, next year, think about the energy in this place, and think about all the fuckery, and all of the emotionally stunted dweeps that are going to be walking around in the White House.

Like Stephen Miller, basically. Oh, my God. A thousand Steven Miller's. No, I mean, I covered the White House for almost eight years, and just about every day, I walked through those gates. I still was like, holy shit, I'm at the White House. It's so cool. It is. It's a cool place to be. And of course, this fucking guy had to go and demolish half of it within a year of coming back. But I remember what it was like the first time around when he came in after Obama, and they were all just traumatized. I sat down with this Deputy White House Press Secretary, Eric, and it looked like he had been in a car accident. I mean, this is how traumatized they were at that time. And you got the sense that these were people who understood how important this place was, how you had to treat it with reverence. And when I covered the Trump people, it had turned into a frat party. I remember over at the EEOB, as they call it, the office building that's next to the White House, the giant-Yes, where the vice president's office is. Where the vice president, the Eisenhower executive office, they call it.

And on Friday afternoons, you would see these kids on the balconies with red solo cups. They were throwing like keggers on Friday afternoons during the Trump administration. This is how seriously they treated the fucking place. And when they all got swept out and Biden came back, and I agree with you, it turned back into like the West Wing TV show, like what you would think, like people who obviously respect the place. But while Trump was there, and it's obviously the case once again, where they've turned it into a goddamn shit show. He's bulldozed almost half of the White House, and it just goes to show you what we're up against right now. This is somebody who thinks he's a king, and when you work for the king, you think you're a king. And so they're just going to do whatever the fuck they want for the next three years, is how it appears to me, not to go on a tangent.

No, I know. And despite all of those grievances, Jim, I do want to ask you, I would call it a kitchen table grievance before we dive into the MAGA fucker.

Exactly. Sorry. Sorry, I jumped ahead. No, no, no, no.

I'm glad, because that is something that I think occupies a lot of real estate in all of our brains, because we all care passionately about being Americans, and care passionately about each other. And so it's just an all-consuming component. But sometimes we get to get irritated at just normal bullshit. So what have you had at with Jim Acosta?

Okay, I have to give a shout out to my alma mater, J. M. U. I went to James Madison, an up and coming state eighth school in Virginia. They made it to the college football playoff. I don't want to get too sportsy, but there was a lot of assholes on the Internet, on social media, particularly on Twitter, some notable sports figures who are shitting all over J. M. U getting into the college football playoff, people like nick Saban and so on. I'm like, Hey, fuck you. These are the rules for getting into the college football playoff. They made it in. And by the way, they put up more than 30 points on Oregon. They put over 500 yards. In Alabama, nick Saban, your old school, didn't do Jack shit in the college football playoff. And so, I mean, I guess they got through the first round, but then they got blown out. And my sense of it is that college sports has turned into semi-pro sports. Like, what are we doing here? And are we just going to have it be the top schools with all the money, and everybody else can just go fuck themselves?

That doesn't work. The other thing I have a little bit of a beef with is NFL officiating. I did tell your producer, Sam, I did want to talk about this. I'll just mention it very briefly. But if we have instant replay for, are you this close or that close to a first down? But we don't have instant replay for pass interference for all the sports fans out there, this has to change. So that's my other grievance from a sports standpoint.

Yes. I'm not that into football because I like to see athletes full face, so I can feel an emotional attachment to their expression. Yes. So I love tennis. You don't get that with football? No, I don't know if they're excited. I do love tennis. I love tennis, and I love basketball. And both have... In basketball, you see them do a replay. Yeah, I like that.

Challenge. I love that move.

The challenge is great. But then now in tennis, they have the Hawk-Eye everywhere except for the French Open, because the French are so stubborn, Which makes me love them.

I love them too.

They're like, Fuck you. We're not going to be nice to you unless we feel like it.

I think that's how it should be.

But they have these Hawk-Eye cameras, and so now it's just an instant replay.

It's amazing. I know. I watch it, too. I love tennis, too. I go to the DC Open every It's a great event. And it shows you the instant replay of the ball landing by the line. And it tells you if it's within an inch or something of being in or out. I love that.

And then at Roland Garros, at the French Open, the umpire goes down and looks for a mark on the clay, and there's a gajillion marks on the clay. And then they're like, out. God bless the French. I know. Okay, let's dive into these grievances. Let's first talk about ICE, which I think That needs to be abolished. Yes. I think that this is an organization that's behaving like ICIS. And you and I are old enough to remember when we would see these videos when America was doing nation building in the Middle East, and people would get kidnapped, and they had hostages, and they had on masks, and all of these Republicans were talking about how chicken shit it was, that they weren't man enough to even show their faces, and they wore these masks. And now I see this, You know, similar thing, where I'm from originally in Oklahoma, and your producer, Sam, can attest to this. You'll see a big pickup truck with a bunch of flags in the back of it, totally giving ISIS. And then these ICE agents with these masks. It's just amazing to me how irony is so lost on these people and just how morally depraved they are.

Yeah, and listen, we can get into this and expand the conversation and talk about all this stuff. But this is, I think, a defining moment for the Democratic Party. I think If they are not going to take the position that ICE should be abolished the moment a Democratic President comes into office, then you really shouldn't be up on the stage. It just doesn't make sense. Like, yes, you may think, okay, if we triangulate, I'll move to the left over here and then back to the center for the general election. We don't want any of that shit. Ice has gotten to a point. I mean, take a look at what happened in Minneapolis. If we have a situation in this country where the government can go out and murder a US citizen without any investigation that is credible, then we've become a Putin-like thug-ocracy, and that is not sustainable. And we can't have a situation where the governor of Minnesota says, We're going to bring in our National Guard to protect our citizens from ICE. I mean, we all know where this is going to end up leading. It's going to end up with people shooting at each other in the streets, and we just can't have that in this country.

The problem that we have right now, and I don't want to jump too far ahead, but the problem that we have, I used to call Donald Trump the catch me if you can President, when I covered him the first time around. Now he's the You can't catch me President. He thinks he is beyond, and this is because of the Supreme Court giving him a blank check, the immunity decision, saying, you can do whatever the fuck you want as President. And he said, yeah, okay, that's exactly what I'm going to do. And so invade Venezuela, invaded Greenland, let ICE go crazy across the country. But you can't have a situation like we had in Minnesota play out all over the country. The citizens are not going to tolerate it. People are not going to... They're just not going to tolerate it. And the governor of whatever state can go out there and say, please remain calm. We can't have riding in the streets. That's going to give them what they want, blah, blah. I totally endorse that view, by the way. We don't want that. We don't want to give Trump and Steven Miller what they want and end up with blood in the streets.

But at some point, it's just going to happen. People are going to reach the point where they've had enough. And to me, ICE is the perfect It just crystallizes perfectly exactly what we're up against in this country, where Donald Trump has said, and this has nothing to do with immigration. This has to do with, can I build a secret police force that can go out there and scare and intimidate the shit out of people and basically say, We're in charge. You're not. You're not. The states be damned. Local municipalities be damned. And that is not sustainable.

Okay, I want to ask you something about Trump, because you've been around him more than any person person I've ever set across from. And so this is my opinion of him. He is a guy. He's so narcissistic, and he's so into himself, and whatever the shiny object is in front of him on that moment is what he's obsessed with. And I do believe he's a racist, but he doesn't have conviction about his racism like Steven Miller does. Like, Steven Miller is a racist, and he'll die on that hill. Trump, conversely, he's for sure a racist, but he's a member of this party that's all about We don't like Muslims, and they're super Islamophobic, and they don't want anybody who wasn't born in America here. And walks in Zora and Momdani, good-looking New Yorker, took on all these billionaires, and Trump was razzled dazzled. He didn't see a Muslim. He saw a good-looking winner. He didn't give a fuck where he was born. He didn't give a fuck that he has brown skin. He didn't give a fuck about his religion because he liked the fact that he was a good-looking winner. You saw all of the people who used to do your job who are now joke, fringe podcasters, and they were pissed.

Like that Pasoviak, he turns around, stops. I saw the video, yeah. And he twats out of there really fast. But let me ask you this.

He had a hussy fit. Let's just say it. He had a hussy fit.

When you worked in the White House, and you would go after Trump pretty hard. I loved it, by the way. I was like, inject into my vein. Loved it. And so then the cameras go down. Is there like, asshole buddy moments where Trump's Jim, you're such a dick. Can you be nicer? What take us behind the curtain of that.

Okay, so in the beginning, this is the way I explain it to people. Donald Trump, I think, went into all of this thinking this was like when he was a player on the New York scene, and that the New York Post, the New York Press, they're basically there to perform a PR role. I show up, I give a press conference, I do my thing where I look around the room like this, on The Apprentice, and the fawning New York Press Corp just asked me questions that helped me sell my products, my my shitty Trump wine, my shitty Trump vodka, the planes, and so on. He thought that was going to be how it worked going out on the campaign trail in end of the the White House. But if you go out on the campaign trail and you're going to say, We're going to ban all Muslims coming into this country, or if you say that all Mexican immigrants are rapists and criminals, or if you're going to say that I can shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and get away with it, the The political press is not the New York press, and they're going to respond differently, and they're going to start asking hard questions.

There was a press conference in New York in May of 2016 where he went off on me and he says, Oh, you're a real beauty. I know who you are. But I think at that moment, he thought this was still K-Fabe. You know what that term is from professional wrestling? It means it's all precoordinated. That's the term for it in pro wrestling. I do this, then you do that, you body slam me. Here, I throw you into the ropes over there. My sense of it was he thought all of this was an act. Now, during the campaign, I will tell you, it did not feel like an act to us. We would be in the press corps. We called it the press cage at these Trump rallies. And there would be tens of thousands of people, and he would whip these people into a frenzy, calling us the disgusting news media, the dishonest news media, the liars, the scum, and so on. And his supporters would come up to the press cage. These were the bike racks that were assembled around us to protect us. We also had bodyguards, and they would scream at us and call us a traitor and all this other stuff.

It got to the point where not only did we need bodyguards, we had to run to our cars after the Trump rallies were over because we were worried they would kick the shit out of us. Trump never got the message that the hostility that he peddled, the outrage that he put out there was absorbed by people and then directed back to us. He gets into the White House. He and I have that press conference where he calls me fake news and so on, and it just ratcheted up and got worse and worse and worse. And I think what What happened in his mind was it changed from being an act to, Oh, I think I see what I can do now. I control this army of people. I control, through this cult-like following, this ability to go after certain segments of American society. And it was early on in his administration where I got the sense that things were starting to change because he still I had this mentality very early on, Okay, this is still an act. I got a call from Hope Hicks one day after a press conference. Do you remember her?

Totally. She was the lady that was like his press aid, and she was like a former Ralph Lauren model or something like that. Yes, she was really pretty. She didn't know what she was doing. And she calls me after this press conference. This is February of 2017, so a month after he gets in, and she goes, Jim, I just wanted you to know. I talked to the President, and he said that Jim was very professional today and that Jim gets it. Jim gets it. And I'm like, Get what? I don't get shit. I'm here doing my job asking questions. This is not an act. This is not a show. And it was the next day that he first put out the tweet that the press in the United States is the enemy of the people. And it was pretty much from that point forward that he just decided, if we're not going to have this pro- wrestling K-Fabe thing where I do this and then you do that, and it's all pre- and pre-cognited, I'm going to destroy you. I'm going to crush you. I'm going to knock you out of the way. And he's been behaving that way ever since, to the point where in 2018, when he had...

One of his supporters was sending pipe bombs around. Remember that whole thing? Yeah. Sent it to CNN, sent it to a bunch of other media outlets, Democratic figures like Hillary Clinton and so on. And we received actual pipe bombs that could have detonated and hurt people. Our people went to Trump's people and said, You're going to get somebody killed, and he did not care. He said, I'm going to keep calling you the enemy of the people, Sarah Huckabee. Sandra said, I asked her in a press conference, Will you guys stop calling people the enemy of the people? Stop calling the press that. And She said, No, we're not going to stop doing that. And it turned from what he thought was an act into, We're coming after you.

So what you're describing, if I were your therapist, and this was a work relationship. It feels like therapy. Yeah, I would say- Sorry, I went on too long. No, no, I love it. Because I think this is interesting, and I think it's important. I would say, Jim, it sounds like you're in an abusive relationship, and you need to draw boundaries, and you need to get out of this. So obviously, Donald Trump is an abuser. He's physically abused women. He's an adjudicated rapist. He's an emotional abuser. He's a psychological abuser, and he's doing it at a mass scale right now. We know that. We've known that. You can read testimony from his first wife and go on and on. That's never going to change. He's going to go into the ground and abuse her, abuse abusing people. What I'm interested in right now is the trickle-down abuse that has happened, and as it pertains to being a journalist, you have people like Jeff Bezos, Larry Ellison, that own these news organizations. And They allow for the President, whom they're beholden to, they have all this fuck you money, but they won't tell him, Fuck you, right?

And they allow for this abuse to be hurled at their employees, making a very unsafe workspace. And to me, this is a really big story, but there's so much fuckery going on. We don't talk about it, but there's been such a receding of decency of, I'm your boss, and I'm going to take care of you. I'm not going to allow you to be abused by this man. We are protected by the Constitution. The courts will protect us. And that is something that we really haven't spoken about. The corporate media throws their reporters, either dictates what they can say or what they can cover and how they can cover it and what phrases they can use, which I think is a form of abuse, not to mention very anti-First Amendment. And they also are throwing them around groups of people who will rile up the rubes to send... And I've been down... Fox has covered me before, and so I've been in the hot seat of the MAGA, We hope you die, we hope you get a bang rape. Oh, yeah.

I've gotten all that shit.

But what do you have to say of somebody who worked in corporate media and how the people that own corporate media are treating their employees, this trickled down abuse that they've picked up, that Trump has normalized. And now these industry leaders who should be advocating for safe, good workplaces and safe spaces, and they're allowing, well, he's an abuser, so we're going to abuse our employees, too. Like, if Can you think about Jeff Bezos spiking the story of the endorsement of Kamala Harris, or what Barry Weiss is doing right now to those poor journalists at CBS that are serious journalists at 60 Minutes. Will you speak to that? And also, Jim, to your experience with when you started realizing, oh, these corporations don't care about journalism anymore?

Yeah, a couple of things. One is, I have to tell you, when I was at CNN and was the White House correspondent, I felt like I had the backing of my company. Jeff Sucker, I have to give him a shout out. When he was President of CNN, he stood behind me 100 %. I never thought for a moment, Gosh, I better be careful what I say or else my boss is going to come after me. If he didn't like a question that I asked or a story that I did, he would tell me. He was a good boss in that way. But in terms of the job that we had to do to hold Trump accountable, he was 1,000 % behind me, no question about it. That has changed in our current media environment. And as I've been saying lately to folks on my show, when 60 Minutes is in trouble, we're all in trouble. And when Barry Weiss is spiking a segment on Seacot and the gulag that they're running down there in El Salvador, a torture prison, basically, that the US is basically in business with, that's a big story. That's a big problem.

And when she can spike a story like that because they're now owned by the Ellison's, which are MAGA friendly, that's a massive massive problem for this country, and I've been describing it this way. I think we have a system of state-compromised media in this country. We do not have a free press the way that we did a couple of years ago. If we have major corporations that are in charge of our media outlets that are under the thumb of the current administration, then you really don't have freedom of the press. You have corporations running media companies that are subject to the whims of a mad king president. And that is a huge problem for all of us. Just the other day, the anchor of the CBS Evening News ended his newscast by saying, We salute you, Marco Rubio. I mean, not only was Walter Cronkite spending in his grave, I was hoping he would come back from the great beyond to choke the living shit out of him and say, what the fuck are you doing?

Did you see where CBS put out a a statement, and it was like, We love America, and we won't apologize for it. And I'm like, That's not your job. Your job isn't to feel emotion towards America. Your job is relentless pursuit of the truth.

Also, get the fuck out of here. We all love America. That's why we're doing this. The reason why I do my job, and I like doing my job, is I love this country. I fucking love this country. My dad came from Cuba in 1962, three weeks before the Cuban Missile crisis, fled communism. My mom, her folks were from the New York area that came through Ellis Island. One of my great grandparents was a maid at the Dakota building here in Manhattan. And these two families came together, and there I popped out, and I went to the White House and gave Donald Trump a hell of a fucking time. That's America. And I'm not saying that I'm exceptional or anything like that, but it's exceptional that something like that can happen in this fucking world. And when I saw CBS doing that, I said, What the fuck is going on with these people? Because we all love this country. That is beside the point. What we should be having in this country is a free press that can hold the goddamn President of the United States accountable without everybody worried whether they're going to lose their fucking job.

You can't have a situation like that in this country. And that is why things like what we're doing right now is flourishing and thriving, because the American people can sniff this out. Yes. They can see the pandering and the nonsense. And the The other night, the anchor on the CBS Evening News on January sixth is saying, well, on one hand, the White House is saying that Nancy Pelosi is responsible for January sixth, and on the other hand, it was the rioters. No, motherfucker. We saw it on God to the goddamn television. It was a bunch of Trump thugs that he egged on and incited and sent to the goddamn Capitol. He's the one who did it. There is no both sides to that fucking story, and the fucking story. And there was a time in this business when the anchor of the FBI I worked under Dan Rather in the early 2000s, I was here in New York working under Dan Rather. And there was a time in this business where the anchor of the CBS Evening News, if he got a call from the White House, where the President of CBS News got a call from the White House complaining about the story, they would say, Go fuck yourself and hang up the phone.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how shit should get done in this country. The President of any news organization, the anchor of any evening newscast, should be able to tell the White House press. I used to get calls from the White House press secretary when Obama was President, Jay Carny would call me and complain about, You guys are covering Obamacare. Like, what the fuck is going on here? The Obamacare website comes out. This actually happened. Oh, yeah. Remember, it didn't work right away. Obama was out there saying it's going to be like, Orbitz, you're going to be able to book your flight, you're going to be able to buy your health care. And the website didn't work. So we went on, and we were on all day long, saying that the Obamacare website didn't work. That's the news. Jay Carny, and God bless He calls me, he's doing his job, calls me in the booth, which is the workspace we called it. You and Wolf are really out of control talking about the Obamacare website, and I was like, We didn't build the fucking thing. You did. And that is how it should work. The government can get mad at you for doing your job, but you ought to be able to say right back, Fuck off.

I'm doing the news. This is how it works. And we've gotten completely away from that, to the point where, I mean, if the anchor of the CBS Evening News feels that the corporate overlords are making his life a living hell, then he should go on the air at the end of his broadcast and say, They're making my life a living hell. I can't tell you guys the truth. I quit, and do it on national television, and walk the fuck off the set. And if you're not going to do that, you're part of the our damn problem.

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Come see us. It's going to be so fun. I love getting together at a live show with all the people. It's such a community.

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A couple of things that you said, and then I want to move on to Fox News. Yeah. Oh, good. You said that they say, We love America. I always think this is a red flag. The Republicans do this a lot. They'll say, Well, I'm pro-family. Everybody's fucking pro-family. No, you're not. Yeah, and they're not. But it's a red flag for me, anytime somebody has to be Captain obvious. And so Barry Weiss and Larry and David Ellison, and this propaganda that they're trying... It's further than Fox. I mean, it is- Even the little North Korean lady who reads news is like, Dial it in.

You know what I mean? It's a little out of control. Even the North Korean lady is offended right now.

Yeah. Okay, let's move on to Fox News. And recently, I saw an interview with Jesse Waters and JD Vance.

Yes. I know what you're talking about.

Yeah, it was just in the last few days. And first of all, I just want to say that for me, when I hear men talk constantly, alleged heterosexuals, talk constantly about masculinity, and real men do this, and those guys are betas, and real guys do that. I always think, why are you talking so much about this? Jesse Waters- He does this all the time, right? Men sucking straws, he thinks that's weak. Eating soup. The way they sit, the way they posture themselves. And I had never seen Jesse Waters in person, and I have excellent, excellent gay dar gym. Excellent. I grew up... I was like,. So we were at the D&C, Pups and Me, and we were really excited to be there, right? Of course. We got invited. And that's your world. You've done it for us. It was like, oh, my God, we're at the D&C. It was like Kamala, and it's like the brat summer and all this stuff. It was really fun. So we're up where all the news channels are. And Nancy Pelosi walks by, and she's walking by, and she's chewing out her eggs. I was like, Oh, my God, that's incredible.

She's walking so fast. And then here comes Jessie. Oh, God. And I mean, I'm just going to say my internal gay art Arnold Gaydar pings. So then I started really digging into a lot of his reporting, and a lot of it is on this issue of masculinity, this hyper masculinity. And I've learned that Josh Holly does this, too, right?

It's another- Yes.

Have you seen the photograph that he took with the kicker?

With the kicker from the Kansas City Chiefs.

And it looks like a gay engagement announcement.

I know people were like, Well, just do it. You're going to have a great life.

Just And my point, this is really important. I want to say that growing up in Oklahoma, and the reason I have such excellent gay dar is because all of my very best friends are gay men. And a lot of these gay men were had to be in the closet in front of their families or at their work because homophobia is so horrific. And so I have no problem with people that have to passively be in the closet. That's their business. And I understand that everybody gets to a place where they're comfortable being open on their own terms, and it's not my business. But I believe within the MAGA movement and a lot of the personalities like, Benny Johnson, the content creator on the right, and and others that they're constantly talking about either masculinity, alphas versus betas, or men sucking on straws, sucking on ice cream, sucking on soup, in the case of Jesse Waters. It reminds me of when I hang out with my gay guy friends, and we're talking about guys. It's gay.

Yeah, and I mean, with Jessie Waters, it's like, Dude, you just talk about this way too much. I mean, honestly, it's okay. We'll be here for you. Right. I mean, one of the coolest things about our line of work is, I mean, I feel like, because I was at my college radio station, and college, and stuff like that, we have been able to be around all walks of life. Yeah. And a lot of these MAGA dudes, they didn't grow up in that same environment. They grew up where they had to be this good white Christian boys. We have to like, Girls, or else, Fuck, my parents will freak out, and everything. And I almost feel sorry for them, because Because they didn't get what we got growing. I know you grew up in Oklahoma. I grew up in the DC area, so it was much more multicultural, and diverse, and everything else. And we've had gay people in DC since before I was born, and they were out and pretty open about it. I have some pity for people who feel like they have to repress this stuff and stuff it down. It's like, you're just missing out on having a great life.

That's what's going on here. With JD Vance, I'm like, We know that the couch fucking thing is a lie, but it fits. But it's fun. You look like a couch fucker, you know? Well, and I have- And you sound like one.

I do have pity for them. But when it comes to them weaponizing homophobia, to rile up the people that you're talking about that haven't lived in multicultural places and to say, Oh, look at this. Look at these gays. Look at these crazy drag queens. Look at these trans people. Don't look at Elon Musk, the ketamine billionaire who's fleecing the entire country right now. Look at this drag queen. So I get really upset when they weaponize it. The one who does it the most is somebody like... My nickname for him, the speaker of the house, is Moses Mike Grinder Johnson. And Moses Mike Grinder Johnson.

I love all your nicknames, by the way. When I had you on and you talked about Kankles McTaco Tits, or whatever.

Kankles McTaco Tits, Kanks.

Yeah. It's a thing of beauty.

But anyway. Little Moses Mike, he and his wife have a Pray the gay away Which is torture and mental abuse, which he's completely abdicated Congress. And this is my big push right now, and I want to run this by you. I want to do it. What do you call this, Kylie? Pull it in the parking lot. Scramble the jets. Let's scramble the jets. You know how millennials use that corporate speak? Let's scramble the jets on this. The jet I want to scramble today is that Chuckle Schumer needs to resign ASAP today, like right now.

Yeah. No, and my producer Sam, who's here right now, we had this conversation in the car on the way over here. One of my favorite things that I've seen in recent days is the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Fry, saying, Get the fuck out of Minneapolis. And to me, that's what the Democrats need right now. And it reminds me when you talk about Chuck Schumer, let's go back and talk about Mitch McDonald a little bit. And I mean, he steals Supreme Court seats to the point now we have a MAGA majority that takes away women's reproductive rights away.

We have a handmade on the Supreme Court.

And we have a situation where Donald Trump can do whatever he wants with immunity because of John Roberts in that Supreme Court. Mitch McDonald made that happen, and it's one of the reasons why around Washington, and he was quite proud of this, so were the people around him, they would call him Cocaine Mitch. They loved, he was like a badass. He was like a Mexican. Cocaine Mitch? Yeah, he was like a Mexican cartel drug lord. Seriously? Yeah, that was a nickname. Google that shit. We've all memory I think about a lot of things when I see him, cocaine is not one of them. Well, but into crazy furniture eating, mega Republican diehards, he's a badass in their world.

He got shit done.

He got shit done.

Evil, nefarious, horrible shit.

Exactly.

But he had power, and he wielded his stick.

And he's the reason why Donald Trump is President now. Had Mitch McDonald rallied a few Republicans in the Senate and convicted him in the Senate, we wouldn't be I'm in this fucking mess right now. But anyway, the point that I'm making is, does anybody call Chuck Schumer, Cocaine Chuck? Nobody's going to call Chuck Schumer, Cocaine Chuck.

I call him Chuckles.

And listen, he's had a long career, and people Some people like him and so on. To me, the Democratic Party, they just need new blood. And when I saw Jacob Fry say, Get the fuck out of Minneapolis, I was like, That is what the Democratic Party needs. They need that right now. Actually, they needed it yesterday. And until they get to that point, they're fighting this battle with one arm tied behind their back, in my view. And they're just going to continue to get run over by Trump and the Republicans. And going into this campaign cycle, they have to be talking about a few things. One is the Supreme Court. And I think if if Mitch McDonald is going to steal seats and make the Supreme Court MAGA, then Democrats ought to be talking about expanding the Supreme Court.

And impeaching.

Well, they should certainly be talking about impeaching, I think.

Impeaching some justices.

Well, and maybe it might involve- Like ethics, ethics complaints against Clarence Thomas. Clarence Thomas. I think it's very likely that Donald Trump will push Clarence Thomas out of the way and put in an Emel Bovey or Judge Aalien Canon or something obnoxious like that on the Supreme Court. One of the reasons why Donald Trump is doing everything that he's doing right now is they want to preserve that Republican Senate. Because if Clarence Thomas or Sam Alito leaves the scene and there's a Democratic Senate, the Democrats, I would think, are going to say, Go fuck yourselves. We're blocking this appointment until the end of Trump's term. But if the Republicans can hang on to the Senate, then Trump can keep adding people to the Supreme Court. But my sense of it is that if a Democrat gets out on the campaign trail and is not talking about national health care, abolishing ICE, and expanding the Supreme Court, they're going to have a really tough time. It's going to be some tough sled out there for those candidates. Because my sense of it, and I had this town hall event at the National Press Club the other day on January 6, celebrating those police officers who defended the Capitol that day, on a day, by the way, when a lot of the national press wasn't really doing much of that.

And I set up my town hall, a real President would have these cops over at the White House and put his arm around them and say, Thank you for what you did for our country in defending democracy. But to me, what you need right now, and what I picked up on at that event, is that People are pissed, and I'm not just talking about Democrats, I'm talking about independents. I'm talking about even some like, left-leaning Republicans, centrist Republicans. People are getting... They see a woman getting murdered in Minneapolis by the government. People are starting to lose their shit. And if you are not talking to those emotions and where people are right now, you're just going to have to... It's not going to work out for you.

So I agree with everything you say about that mayor, and when he said that. And Chackles and Hakem will say, We don't have the majority, blah, blah. But you still have your voice. And I want to say, do you remember during COVID, when we were all shut down? And Trump's talking about injecting bleach and light, and He was just a complete nut, right?

Yeah, I was there that day. It's just crazy. I remember being on the air and saying, Do not take medical advice of the President. You will hurt yourself. And there were people getting poison, but anyway, sorry.

Yeah, and I don't really... I'm not an Andrew Cuomo fan at all. But he did something smart politically at the time. And every night, he had cameras in front of him, and he was like the country's therapist. And he wasn't the President. He wasn't the governor of the other 49 states. He was just the governor of New York. But he got on TV every night, and I lived in Oklahoma, and I watched it every night because I was craving leadership of a sane person. And the Democrats have their voice, and they refuse to use it. And when you talk about what the Democrats need to campaign on, I think another issue they're going to have to address, and the base has moved on this, and this is a national awakening that is occurring. Apac money is toxic. Any Democrat that is going to be accepting APAC money is going to face uphill battles. You can look no further than what Zoraun, he took on far-right APAC money. He took on billionaires. He didn't take a cent APAC money, completely transparent. And my problem with Chuckles, Hakem, Cory Booker, and a lot of other corporate Democrats is they're sitting there getting their marching orders from Deloitte, and they are these preservationists party where they're preserving the Democratic Party that lost- They're preserving the past.

Two times to a fucking unhinged, mentally ill moron. And they're still trying to preserve that program. And when you didn't see... Chuckles went to Zora's swearing in, inauguration. Hakeem didn't. And Hakeem, a lot of his voters in his district live in New York City. And this is a big thing. The problem with Democrats is they think they're smarter than their base, and they treat the base a little bit condescendingly. And I think they're going to be in for a very rude awakening. Like, women that I know in Oklahoma, who for sure have been Republicans the majority of their life, or So woke ass, no corporate pack money, rich women, trolling around the city that are serious about this stuff, and it's happening nationwide.

No, I hear you. And to me, okay, Erica Kirk can go off and shoot off fireworks at the Turned Point Convention, and yet Hakeem Jeffrey is worried about going to Mamdani's inauguration. I would take it one step further. I would say that the presence of dark money in our politics from all of these superpacks is destroying our democracy. I agree. And the Citizens United decision that opened up the floodgates on this. I talked to Sheldon Whitehouse about this the other day. It is destroying this country, and we have to get to a situation where either there are rules of the road because they argued in Citizens United that, Hey, corporate donations, that's like free speech. No, it's not. There's no way that a school teacher has the same amount of political influence as ExxonMobil. That's just horseshit. So the whole premise of it is built on a lie. And until we get and inject some sanity into our campaign financing system in this country, the people are outgunned and outnumbered. The other day, Elon Musk tweeted out that he had dinner with Trump and Milani again. Remember Elon over the summer saying, The reason why the Epstein files haven't been released is because Donald Trump is in the Epstein files.

Have a nice fucking day. And then they went to war with one another, and everybody in the media said, Oh, look at this. Oh, it's a war of words. And I was like, There's no fucking way this is going to last, because Donald Trump needs Elon Musk, and Elon Musk needs Donald Trump, and Elon Musk will spend. He just got a trillion dollar compensation deal with X or whatever the Tesla, where the fuck it is. He will definitely spend that money to try to lock the system that we have in place right now where Republicans can still run the rest of the country into the ground. And to me, until you get that dark, corrupt money out of our politics, we're in serious trouble. And that is why, and I think a lot of others have made this observation, it is going to take a tsunami, a blue tsunami in the midterms, to get the Republicans that message that, Hey, the bills are coming due. You can't run the country like a Putin thug-ocracy anymore. It's just not going to work.

Yeah, and I also think that Elon Musk and Trump hate each other. But I do think they have a shared goal, and that is preventing the blue tsunami, because the blue tsunami means that Congress is going to haul Elon Musk, big balls, and a bunch of other people's ass in front and say, What crimes did you commit? And it's going to get really serious. And the same with Trump, because I believe, and this is just my opinion, that Trump and all of the bottom-feeding morons surrounding him, and Elon Musk, and all the bottom-feeding clinger honors that surround him, I think they commit crimes every day. And I think to reconcile all of this is going to take hardcore, not integrity Democrats. Fuck you Democrats. Fuck you for fucking over our country. We are serious about this. We are We're going to uncover every document, every phone call, everything you did. We will be relentless about it. And that's the mindset they've got to have, because I think the electorate is going from, we've got to get him out, but also we want accountability.

There has to be accountability. You have to have a situation where there's accountability. And I talked about this the other day with Fanon, the former MPD police officer who almost got killed on January sixth. He said, and I think it's true, that it's more than just the Dems win back the Congress. In the White House. We have to change this John Roberts Supreme Court decision that gave the President of the United States a blank check. No man or woman should be above the law in this country. And Donald Trump sure as shit should not be above the law in this country. And I think the Democrats have to talk about it in these terms that, listen, if we get back in there, and I'm not saying I'm part of the Democratic Party, but I'm saying this is the way the Democrats should communicate, they should say, When they're back in there, if you guys are going to cling to this idea that Donald Trump is unaccountable, it's just not going to work. And that means adding seats to the Supreme Court so that that immunity's decision can be overturned. And so Donald Trump can be held accountable for his crimes.

I mean, right now, he's talking about taking over Venezuela for years in order to control the oil industry. And what world is that saying? He's talking about taking over Greenland and blowing up NATO. And what world is that saying? And so unless the Democrats wake up, and my sense of it right now is to your point earlier, they're just nibbling around the edges, that's just not going to get the job done. And the people are going to lead this. I tell people all the time, and When I get invited to speak at groups and so on, I say this to folks, I am much less worried about Trump derangement syndrome, which is what you and I get accused of, than I am about Trump depression syndrome, which is that people get so down in the dumps, and they get so defeated that they think that there's no way to fix any of this, and you just can't live like that. You have to live in a world where there is hope, and that this can get turned around, and Donald Trump should be held accountable for what he's done. Otherwise, how do we get through this?

Because it's going to send the message to the next MAGA president. You think JD... I mean, Donald Trump can barely stay awake in the oval office or in a cabinet meeting. Jd Vance is in his early 40s, and is backed by people like Peter Thiel and Elon Musk, and that motherfucker can go on for another 30 years. He's going to stay... The hell he's going to fall asleep in the oval office. He's going to work day and night to give this kleptocracy, this oligarchy, exactly everything that they want. And so people need to wake up and understand that their government, this way of life, as I like to call it on my show, this way of life is being taken away from you right now, as we speak, unless you get up and fight.

Yeah, and I just think JD Vance, it's just my personal opinion here, is He's the biggest political prostitute in the planet. He has changed his opinion, his name, his religion, his eyeliner, thickness, on a whim at all times.

When he goes out there and says, We don't have to apologize for being white anymore.

Oh my God, that's insane.

What are you What a annoying man.

I've never even thought of such a thing. That's other than Cindy.

Yeah, and I just think that he's the future of MAGA. It is a fascist, authoritarian, white, socialist MAGA Iga.

It's worse than Trump.

It is worse than Trump. It's Trump with staying power. Trump, the other day, he's asking, Am I going to go to heaven? Am I going to go to heaven? It must be dawning on him that the sand in Dorothy's hourglass is running out in the ways of the boss. The curtains are closing. The curtains are closing. J. D. Vance doesn't have to worry about that. This whole crew of guys who are going to try to come in after it, they're not worried about that. The American people have to show that movement, the door. I'm not talking about Republican presidents want to come in and act like Mitt Romney and folks like that. Everybody can deal with that. Everybody can stomach that. If Mitt Romney had been President instead of Donald Trump in 2016, you and I probably wouldn't be talking right now. That's right. Because, Jen, you'd be down in Oklahoma enjoying your life.

That's why we're doing interior design. Keep me doing that thing.

But the reason why we're all fired up, the reason why I talk about politics in the news the way that I do right now, is that I am deeply worried that this is coming to an end. This way of life that you and I grew up with. Our young producers who are sitting off camera, they They don't understand what you and I grew up with. I know. This beautiful thing that came out of the end of the Cold War and the post-World War II era. It's a precious thing, and it's being taken away from us right now in real-time.

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I have a son in law school and a son that's a freshman at USC, and my husband and I talk all the time that we're worried about their future. And what's really sad is when you get to my parents, boomers, the worry that they have, they should just be enjoying their retirement. My My mom and dad just say, We're just so worried for you guys, and for our grandkids, and our great grandkids. These people should be living out.

And they can't afford a house? I mean, the average age of a person buying a house now is in their 40s? Yes. That's a goddamn travesty. It's insane. And so we got it. And listen, I talked to Heather Cox-Richardson about some of this the other day. People have to look back to her history to understand that there is some reason to hope because there are different movements that come along. This is what I was I'm going to get to earlier. In 2008, when I was out on the campaign trail, the folks that I work with at my old place would say, Hillary Clinton's got this locked up. Don't worry about this Barack Obama guy. Hillary Clinton, it's going to work out. She's going to be the not... And I was out on the campaign trail with Obama, and I would see him in these gymnasiums and these auditoriums, and I'm like, look in the way young people respond to him. And I was like, Guys, this is different. This is something different. And he defeated the Democratic establishment and just roared of the White House and became a political phenomenon in this country. People forget about this.

Heather Cox-Richerts was explaining that in the late 1800s, during the time of Teddy Roosevelt, there was a whole era of progressivism that came along, a whole new era of independent journalism, and a new wave of journalism that came along. Eras can change when the people lead that change. I think that we're on the cusp of that now if it's not crushed by the powers that be.

I agree. I just completely All right, let's play Had It or Hit It. Okay. Oh my God. Welcome to Had It or Hit It. I would hit it. Had It.

Had It.

I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day. All right, Jim Acosta. Had It or Hit It, The Trump Kennedy Center.

Fuck that shit. I went over there that day. I grew up in the DC area, going to the Kennedy Center and stuff, and taking my first dates when I was in my 20s and stuff to the Kennedy. And I was like, Oh, I'm hot shit. I'm taking this girl to the Kennedy Center. Oh, yeah.

Here we go. Did you make out with them after that? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

It helped. It certainly helped. Dinner in the Kennedy Center helped. And I revere John F. Kennedy. He's one of my heroes. And Bobby Kennedy, not the insane one, but the-Not the brain worm? No, not that one. And I did this. Sam and I did this on the day that it happened. We went over to the Kennedy Center when they were putting his name up there, and I did a little report from over there, and I said, I'm reporting from the scene of yet another crime committed He's been targeted by Donald Trump. Yes. He has vandalized this building, and he's a vandal, and he's putting his name all over. It's like, he's just whizzing all over the nation's capital, like a stray dog with syphilis.

You covered the Obama White House Were you there when he wore the tan suit? I was. Okay, imagine if Obama... Remember how the Fox, their narrative was, he's arrogant, he's aloof, he thinks he's a king. Do you remember them saying that about Obama?

I remember that.

The fact that there's... I guess you can't shame the Shameless, but nobody feels any embarrassment or shame. And then the pictures, I haven't been in DC since the before mentioned Christmas party. But is it true? I've seen these images online, these portraits of Donald's presidential mugshot on the government building?

They've got it on the Department of Labor. I call it the Kim Jong Un treatment there on the Department of Labor. It looks insane. One reason why we saw it is when some of these characters in DC put up the Trump-Eppstein statue in front of the Capitol. We ran down and did a report on that. But off in the distance, you could see the Department of Labor, and they had the Kim Jong Un banner of Donald Trump. It's all batshit crazy, and it makes me think he's just in the throes of this mental breakdown because he knows this is all coming to an end. And so he's just like, Let me put my name over here. Let me invade this country.

I think that those Walter Reid visits, I think something was revealed.

Something's going on.

Yeah, here's just this is- They found the mark of the devil on- I'm going to bring up something petty, just because I like to be petty, and I think it's fun and therapeutic. It's cathartic. Let's get it out. But all of the talk in the MAGA movement about masculinity, right? Yeah. And then there Your idealized man wears a full face of makeup every single day. And I don't care if people wear makeup, if you're a man, if you're non-binary, I don't give a shit. When we grew up, do you remember how we used to say it's a free country all the time? Right. Yes. Even in Oklahoma, there'd be some red neck and he'd go, Well, that guy's dressed like a girl, but I don't know what that is, but at least it's a free country. And the whole thing was, I'm going to mind my own business. You don't hear people saying it's a free country anymore that much. I just think it's interesting that the idealized alpha male in the MAGA movement, wears a full face of makeup every single day. I've only seen one photo with the makeup off, and he was at his golf course, and his pants were pulled and hiked way up.

Yeah.

And I'll tell you what- You can see the outlines of the depends.

He was out of drag. I understand why he wears the makeup. Sure. I do, because it is an improvement. Right. Doing this gender-affirming care, I support.

Some of the shades are a little off, though. They are. When he does it on the hands, I say it's all about the blending. You can't... Maybe it's Maybe it's Maybeleene.

Also here, he's really bad at blending here.

He's blending there, too. It's all about the blending. I know this from being a man in television news for many years.

In person? Is he really orange?

It's really orange. I describe it this way when you're shopping, when you're a guy shopping for dress shoes, and it's like you got black, brown, mahogany, and then there's like British tan or English tan. That's the shade that he's putting on his face right now. It's that British tan shade.

Let me ask you, this is really petty and gossipy, but there's all the rumors that he wears the diapers, and that sometimes he stinks. Did you ever smell any poop or gas, or anything? I didn't smell anything like...

Kinzinger says he smells like butt. That's what Kinzinger says. He's been around. I have been in close proximity, but maybe it was after a change, after they put the baby powder on, pat it as hiney. I don't know, but I didn't smell it. There are so many offensive things about him, but maybe I didn't pick up on it.

It's unfortunate. I'm glad you didn't smell it, but I love the juicy tea.

We're descending into- I would like the hot tea.

Okay. All right. Sorry.

Little kid stuff, but that's okay.

Moving Take it along.

You're encouraging me. You're a bad influence on me because I will engage and continue. I know. My producer Sam's on the way here. He's like, You really should just go for it. Now I'm in the middle of this thinking, I think I went for it, and then some. But anyway.

But this is the thing about podcasting, and this is what's so cool about it, because I think the news and journalism is the gold standard. I want to say that. It should be. But people now, because of smartphones, the way they're receiving news, they want to know They want to know more about Jim Acosta personally. They want to know more about Jennifer Welch personally, and they want more of a conversation like you have with a friend, where you're talking about something serious, and you're like, Oh, my God, does this make up look really bad in person? Because that's the human experience. It's more relatable. And so these conversations, I think, are more digestible for people to stay engaged with politics if we were just really serious the whole time.

No, and the question that you ask is exactly perfect because people have asked me this, What's it like when you're with him in person? I've heard he can be charming and all this. I'm like, that's beside the fucking point. He's unleashed ice on this country, and they're murdering people. He is grabbing countries for their oil. Whether he's charming or not charming, I don't give a shit. You know what I mean? People might have said that about other 20th century dictators. It's beside the fucking point. I know Kerry is a nice guy behind the scenes.

I think the thing about him is he's charming to some people. Not to me. I've always felt like he was a I'm slow, hard. And people that need superficial flattery, he needs that so much. It's so off-putting for me. It's a turn off.

Totally.

I agree with you. It's just those meetings, the cabinet meetings where they're going on and on the circle jerk of just- Or the tech Titans bringing in the gold offerings and everything.

It's like, dude, have a fucking- There has never been an advertisement against being a billionaire, like the year of 2025.

That's so true. You have all this, fuck you money, and you have to go make a participation trophy and take it to that man who doesn't even have the decency to blend his makeup on his hairline or his hands before he receives your bullshit trophy.

It's awful. It's just awful. I know. Well, 2025 was year of bending the knee. I mean, it just clearly was. And that's why we're in the shape that we're in right now.

And I'm sure Moses Mike Grinder Johnson did a lot of that.

All right, moving- He did a lot of bending both knees and kneeling at the altar of I mean, not to go off, but yeah.

All right. Had it or hit it, the manosphere.

The manosphere, I've definitely had it with that shit. Joe Rogan, could you have been more wrong about everything? You know what I mean? And if there's one thing that we need to do, is we need to get those young guys back. And some of this is happening naturally anyway. If you see the polls for young Americans and the wild shift from... They were like, oh, they were Trump curious to, no, fuck this noise.

I think that some of these men in the manosphere, and there's two in particular that I think, Theo Vaughn, and then, Kylie, what's the guy who's Schultz? Andrew Schultz.

Yeah, see, I don't even know some of these asswives.

I don't really know who they are either. But I know that they both had Trump on. They both endorsed Trump. And since then, there's buyer's remorse. I think that in order to really be a good steward of your microphone, if you endorsed him, and then you see the way he's treating women, which is just a continuation he has the whole time, but immigrants, the way he's treating the immigrant population, the dehumanizing, sending people to be sexually tortured at Seacot, and an atonement by these people to their audiences that they got intoxicated on masculinity. They got intoxicated on, We're tough guys. The rules that apply to everybody else don't apply to us. We can skip the- And the misogyny.

Yes. The misogyny. I mean, the Tate brothers, putting those guys on a pedestal, those guys are garbage.

Yes.

They're disgusting, disgraceful human beings. And that's the thing I get worried about the most with these young guys, is that fascism is contagious. It is something that you can catch the bug. Misogyny is something you can catch that bug, and you can become... Cruelty is something you can catch that bug. And I've described this many ways. Trump wants his cruelty to be your cruelty, his abusiveness to become your abusiveness. And we have to show these guys a different way. And I think some of it is talking about these things in terms that Trump would talk about these things. Talk about the things we care about without caring so much about, am I going to offend this person, or should I not say fuck? I've had relatives and friends, and you say, fuck a lot. Well, it's that time. It's that era. It's that era. We have to say... I had friends who were like, You should call your podcast, Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it with Jim Acosta. And I thought about it. I was like, But it's like, How do you put that on Apple podcast? You have to put the asterisk in there, something like that.

I'm going to get throttled. But we are in that moment, where we have to say, Fuck it, and grab people by the shirt collar, because these young ass wipes, like the names you mentioned, it's almost like they have to touch the hot stove, and have their noses rubbed in it before they wake up, and it's like, Oh, shit. I guess I better care about this stuff.

People get murdered. I'm hopeful that there is a, a recoil from this, where people realize as men realize that really the most masculine thing is standing up for the most vulnerable. Yeah. That is truly the highest form of being an alpha is standing with the marginalized kid that's getting bullied and standing up against the bullies. And that's something that... Look at Disney movies, I feel like it was something that was a part of the American experience, our American experience growing up. And that's something that's been so hard about being alive right now is the villains, how they're celebrated. How much people are... On Fox News, they celebrate this depravity and these horrible villains, and these just horrible people. That's been very hard for me to watch.

Yeah. To some extent, it's a little bit of a self-cleaning oven, because I think that in the sense that Donald Trump took us to the edge of hell itself, it's like we're not in hell, but we can see it from here. Because he goes so far, he shows us the light a little bit, too. I hate to put it that way, but the way he went after Rob Reiner, after Rob Reiner died, he and his wife. You had even people on Fox. You had people even in the Republican Party, even in MAGA, saying that this has gone too far. It didn't happen overnight. It's not going to happen overnight. The spell is not going to be broken like a Disney movie. But I do think there are these moments that happen. Little by little, people are saying, Oh, you know what?

This is too fucking much. I think they're blowing their wad. As much as it's accelerating right now, there is going to be a backfire to it. If you think about just like, I think there was a huge backfire to Charlie Kirk's funeral. We all saw, I unfortunately saw it online, him violently get murdered. It was horrible. Horrible. Most horrible thing. I opposed gun violence so much. A person who worked with us, he was killed last October, and it just devastated me. A young black kid that had worked for me for six years. And so gun violence is avoidable and preventable. And nobody surrounding Charlie Kirk even talks about that. But I digress. So everybody saw that, and it was horrible to see. Nobody's really talking what he did. They just ambientally knew who Charlie Kirk was. And then the funeral happens, and it's pyrotechnics, Christian Nationalist Bible thumping. And I was on Hassan Piper show right after this happened, and I said, Hassan, Where I grew up, I know evangelicals, I would go to church with them on the weekend, and that's their vibe. But country club Republicans look down on Bible thampers like that.

Episcopalians and moderate Republicans, and they put on this huge mega church funeral. And there was a backlash from that. Like, well, this shit's weird. Why are they? Why are there fireworks? Why is all of this talk about overt religiosity? There's something so off-putting about it. And I think that's what's happening with a lot of this, and I think there is going to be a blowback from it. But here's your last one. Yeah. Had it or hit it, the United States of America.

Oh, boy. And hit it is good, right? Yeah.

Hit it is good.

I will hit that shit every day of the week. It's like that line from Coming to America. If loving the Lord is wrong, I don't want to be right. That's such a great movie. See, this is the other thing that the kids don't know. I feel like I have to- It's such a good movie. Introduce them to some of the old Eddie Murphy movies. Yes. Arnold Schwarzenegger. My dad was a bodybuilder growing up. Really? He was. And he wanted to be Schwarzenegger and Stallone and all this stuff.

Did you pump weights with him growing up? No. Was he like, Come on, son, let's pump some weights and do mainly stuff?

I was still a pussy. I tried. I tried to be an athlete. It was like, this is taking a lot of effort. I'd rather be on the school newspaper and run for class president or whatever. But my dad, he could take me to a Redskins game growing up, and if people were fucking with us on the way to the stadium, he'd be like, this. And they'd be like, whoa. My dad, he was a big dude.

Was he He was the Cuban?

He was the Cuban. Macho. So Cuban with all this, it's not a good idea.

Nobody's going to fuck with that.

Nobody's going to fuck with that. That's the era I grew up in. The right stuff. You know what I mean? It worked on me. Rocky and Rocky IV, I will break you. And then Rocky comes back and went... I'm sorry. It works on me. Adrian. Adrian. Even though Stallone now, he's He's MAGA, isn't he? He just looks weird. But I still love him. It's okay. I still believe in it. I don't know. I know it sounds corny, and I get goosebumps thinking about taking my show on the road and going to Iowa and talking to folks in Iowa and stuff like that. People would say to me all the time, How can you keep going to those Trump rallies? How can you keep doing that? They scream at you and they call you names and do all this stuff. And I grew up in a blue collar family. My dad My parents had me when they were very young. My dad worked in grocery stores, my mom worked in restaurants. But I would go to these rallies, and I would tell folks who would be like, Why do you go to these things? Why do you keep going there?

These are the people I know. These are the people I grew up with. I grew up on a barstool in my mom's restaurant, talking to these guys. And I still think that there's a way to bring them back. And I know people are like, What the fuck are you talking about? What are you smoking? I still think that there's a way. And I think at the end of this, we're just in the It's still part of this long story, and yes, it's fucked up that he incited a riot on January sixth, an insurrection and so on. And he got back into office, and all of that is unfair and fucked up. I agree with all of that. But that doesn't mean we're at the end of the story. The Death Star had to get blown up twice.

It can't mean we're at the end of the story. It can't mean we're at the end of the story. It just can't be. We cannot lose our country to him.

No.

He cannot be the-Especially this particular guy. Yes, it can't be that particular orange face.

Not the casino Biff from Back to the Future. Not that fucking guy. Bankruptcy, con artist. No.

Selling, grifting Bibles.

Jeffrey Epstein's friend and all this bullshit.

Yes, it can't be him.

With the gold shit all over the White House.

If there's a villain that's going to take us out, I want him to be hot. I want him to be muscular like your bodybuilder dad. A little younger. Yes. Yes. Younger, where it's like, he's terrible and he ruined our country, but he sure was hot.

Or an evil hot lady, first President. Exactly. I could go, I'd be like, Oh, well, fuck.

It's got to be a better feeling.

It had to end somehow. But not this motherfucker. Agree. Again, I've said too much. But no, not him. A hundred %. Not the guy who puts orange makeup on his face. And apparently- Like, who are the ass wipes you were saying, Theo Vawn and those shitheads? Yeah. He puts orange shit on his face.

And that's who you endorsed.

And if you kiss his ass, it smells like shit. What the fuck are you doing? Not him. No.

It cannot be.

Yeah, but that makes me think maybe it'll be JD Vance, which then that does make sense that it would end that way.

See, I don't think the only way that JD Vance- But he's a couch fucker. He's a couch fucker. The only way JD Vance cannot win a general election. I agree, 100 %. There's no way. There's just no way he can win. Donald Trump doesn't even like JD Vance. He hates him. He was a gift from the tech oligarchs.

And I will tell you, he enjoys pitting Marco Rubio against JD Vance. Knowing him and how he operates and his people, they love this cockfight. But back, and it's a little cockfight, a little L-I-D-L. Is that what it was? But the moral of the story is that it can't happen this way. It only happens this way. If you let it happen this way, to the corporate assholes out there, and the university presidents, and the media titans, and so on. This only happens if you assholes let it happen this way.

So don't fucking do it. Everybody that said no and taken him to court has won. Yes. Everybody that has bent the knee, it will never be enough. We We could all sit here right now and say, Donald Trump is so great. He has a large penis. His makeup looks fantastic. His hair is unbelievable. The whole world could say it in unison, and it still wouldn't fix him. He will always be broken, so do not give him an inch. If you have Fuck you money, tell Donald Trump, Fuck you. That's right. I mean, it's just- I know.

It's like the Wizard of Oz. You're just waiting for somebody to throw the bucket of water, and I'm melting, I'm melting. Oh, my beautiful world. That's This is my mom's favorite movie growing up. So I guess- I loved it, too. It was good. I go back to it from time to time. But I firmly believe, and this is where my European friends are like, Oh, it's because you guys are Americans, and you always think it's a Hollywood ending, and you think you're the best and everything. And I want it to be a Hollywood ending, and I do think we're the best. And I do think we can do this. I think we can pull this off. It's going to be a little messy, and it may not be Gavin Newsom. It may not be the Arab parents that are floating around on the news right Maybe it'll be Jacob Fry. I don't know.

I hope it's somebody new.

Maybe it's somebody new who just comes out of nowhere. We didn't see it coming, like Obama, like Donald Trump. We didn't see it coming. Yeah. And maybe it just won't be one person. Maybe it'll be all of us. People could say, Oh, Jim, that's because you're from this generation that grew up with Star Wars and all that shit. It ain't going to end that way. I will continue to believe it in Until I can't believe it anymore, until there is no more. And that's what I bring to this. I refuse to give up. I just won't do it.

I want to leave the listener with that hopium from Jim Acosta. Injected in my veins. We need it. We need it, and we need to remember that none of these corporations are anything without us and our money. And if they want to shit on their customers, we'll just start boycotting them.

I canceled my Washington Post. I mean, this is the paper I grew up with. My mom would get it on her doorstep every morning, read it cover to cover every morning. I canceled that fucking thing. When they came out with the editorial and said it was okay to bulldoze half the White House, I click, canceled it live on my show. I said, No, fuck this noise. We have to start standing up, not just to Trump, but to all of the enablers. And a message has to be sent. This is running out. Which side are you going to be on? Our side or his side?

I agree.

And that's the way it goes. All right, listeners. And that's the way it was, as Walter Cronke used to say.

Jim Acosta, thank you so much for joining me in person, filling in for pumps on I've Had It. I thought you were spectacular.

Was I an okay pumps?

You were a fabulous pumps. Much smaller tits.

I'll work on that. My producers tell me I got to work out more. Next time, much bigger tits.

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