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He's mainly known for his expansive work on glutathione, but there's so much more. Before I even get into that, I have been wanting this interview for such a long time, and he didn't even know it when I got connected with him. But my first convention that I went to and sat in on, me and my wife were waiting to see another speaker. It happened to walk in and my guest was speaking, and I was taking notes. I saved everything to Dropbox. You don't know what I actually got into with you and how I've been looking forward to this. But I was starting off. It was the beginning of my podcast journey at the time, and I was still getting settled in. When your people reached out to me, I said, I'm moving everything else around. Get this man on my show. I am so thankful that you came to see me. Just a little bit of background before we get rolling here. My guest is a sought-after pharmacist. He's a wellness expert. He's a thought leader. He's been working with physicians since 1997, custom developing medications for their clients. He just came out with an amazing book that we're going to get into and talk about, and it's called The Glutathione Revolution: Fight disease, slow aging and increase energy.
He's globally regarded as the foremost go-to expert on absorbable forms of glutathione, and he's a currently licensed compounding pharmacist. He does everything, but I I'm going to tell you, you are going to learn so much, and we are going to teach everybody today how to improve their quality of life in one of the greatest ways possible. I can't say enough about my guest today, Dr. Nayan Patel.
Thank you so much for that. I had no idea that I had a little bit of impact in somebody else's life.
You did. I told you a little bit off camera, but I had always been looking for a lot of the things that you were doing scientifically with Which we're going to get into with your products that I want to discuss. But I had been fascinated with that mechanism of action and how it works. But also knowing and being told so often, Well, you can't do that. You know how many times I heard you can't do that? You can't do that. I'm the one that always says, yeah, you can. You just got to either find the right person, you, or find the right way. You've done amazing things. We're talking about it right now. I said you were a glutifion expert. Tell me first, why glutifion? Why did you decide to be an expert in that? What is so intriguing and so special?
I wish there was some magic story, some syndrome story behind that, but there is none. Because I was first hired to actually work on vitamin C? One of the doctors came to me and said, Hey, can you work on vitamin C? He has a patent on liposome technology. This is back in the '90s. He comes to me, said, Hey, can you make some liposome vitamin C? Because at At that time, liposome's technology was only available in the pharmaceutical side. We made the first liposome vitamin C back in the late '90s. Vitamin C, I made some CoQ10, some PQQ. I told the doctor, Hey, can you also make some We have glulotide on. Don't bother. It just smells awful, tastes bad. Don't bother doing that part. Plus, if you have vitamin C, we don't need glufine, we'll be fine. Again, this is the doctor's talking, and I said, Okay, I still made it. I still made it, right? It was so cost prohibitive to launch a product back in the '90s. I mean, we're talking about vitamin C available for $2 or $3 for a bottle of 100, which is this will be costing you at least 80, 90 bucks for 100.
It was so cost prohibitive. Back then, 25 plus years ago, I said, Okay, if people pay any amount if the results are earth-shattering. I mean, look at today, there are some medications. If you can cure Hep C, it's costing you $100,000. People will pay $100,000 over three months if it cures Hep C. That's only about 90 pills. Jeez. When I think about it. It's insane. It is insane. If the results are earth-shattering, people will pay the money. Of course they will. I said, Okay, I want to figure out glufine. The reason about glufine was simple because there's not a single product in the world, not even one. In fact, you can combine all the antioxidants in the world, combine every one of them, and glulotide by itself can do outperform every one of them combined. Really? When I realized that potential of glutathium, I said, It's insane if I don't work on it. But at that time, my brain was not fully developing. I think I was still in the, I know the caveman, a thing right at that time, it was not fully developed yet. I was looking for a shortcut. I was looking for an easy way out.
I said, Hey, maybe I'll just make liposomes and to figure out how to get it into the system because liposomes works for the pharmaceuticals. It will be easy It was good for me. I made it, and I was not getting results I was expecting. I got results, but not everybody. I couldn't figure out why. I said, What's going on over here? I said, Okay, now forget about that. You know the next best thing is? I'll just inject it straight into the bloodstream. Once I get inside your bloodstream, my job is done. I did the first injectable glilithal back in the first 2000. 2000, we made the injectable glargine available to all the doctors in the United States. I said, Hey, let's use it. I said, Well, the half-life is too short. The results are not very good. One of my doctor's friend from Vegas comes in and say, Hey, that's okay. My patients will be sleeping after having a heavy night of party, so I'll use them. I said, Don't worry about it. So I got my first client in Vegas getting a whole bunch of glufine. But I I knew it was short-lipped. I couldn't figure out why.
Then I started digging into more detailed work. I said the research was done in 1991. There was a study done where it showed that the glufine being given by IV, everything was ended up in the urine within 5 to 15 minutes. I said, Okay, it still worked a little bit. How did it work? Then the researchers later found out that after about 90 minutes to 2 hours later, they saw a rise of one of the amino acids in the bloodstream, which was cysteine. The glurathine is made of three amino acids, glycine, glutamine, cysteine. Cysteine got broken down and got into the bloodstream and later been used to make your own body's natural glurathine. The body was already making the product using the components from the glurathine that was broken down. Makes sense. I said, Okay, then why am I paying so much money? Why am I paying so much money? Because as a pharmacist, The thing is people don't realize. Everybody thinks the pharmacist make all the money because the drugs are so expensive. No. The drugs are expensive because of the pharmaceutical company. It has nothing to do with the pharmacist. Pharmacists are always We're also looking for the best cost-effective therapy for every client.
That's ingrained in our learning. We're always looking for the best cost-effective treatments. If that means that, if I were to tell you, Hey, if you can sleep better, you'll lose weight, I'm going to do a sleep better before I give you a GLP drug. Yeah, exactly. We were talking earlier that, Hey, by the way, when you lose fat, the way the body gets rid of fat is through breathing carbon dioxide. That's It's right. So literally, you can breathe out your fat. But if I tell you, if you just breathe properly, you lose weight, come on, really? It's a tough sell. It's a tough single. People don't want to hear those kinds of things. It's okay. Then we'll give you some drugs, and then we will tell you what to do afterwards. Anyway, so long story short, IVs were short-lived. The liposome, I could not figure out why it was not working. I said, There has to be different technology. And every technology in the world exists that never enters the peptides, that the glutine is a tripeptide. There's no technology in the world that existed at that point that can actually help peptides get into your system.
And to me, I said, Okay, and why peptides? Why am I doing it with peptides? Because in the early 2000s, I was actually making all the hormones. Now, we call them peptides today, but at that time, we were making all the hormones in the pharmacy because I have doctors come in and say, Hey, can you make me all these hormones It was for me? I said, Well, some of the hormones I can make, some of the hormones I cannot make. So we're looking all the hormones, the estron, progesterone, testosterone, DHA, all those things were easy to make because those are all guttural hormones, so they're easy to make. And then they goes, Oh, how about some of the betritorium-hepothlial hormones, like ACTA, G-R-H, LHRH, corticourele, all those things. I said, Well, those are a bit harder to make. I was working with a couple of researchers, trying to figure out. I said, Hey, how about we just do a research-based modules where you get some approvals, and we'll do some research projects together and see if that works out. And what we found out is that those peptides or the hormones, the needs are very small if it's done correctly.
And so there where my learning came in first, I said, the glargine, if it's done correctly, our needs are actually very small. Yet we're injecting 5 grams, 10 grams of IV push in some Parkinson's patients, and that's absolutely barbaric, but that's what is necessary to get their symptoms Out of control. I know this is a long story, but it just got to a point where I said, I have to work together on this thing. About this time, I went to USA School of Pharmacy. I was in a research department over there, and a colleague of mine was the head of the USA Keck School of Medicine, and he was in the research department over there. A colleague of mine was the head of the USC Keck School of Medicine, and he was in the research department over there. Nice. I said, Hey, would you mind quitting a job and coming working with me? I said, No. I What are you talking about quitting my job? I'm a tenured employee. In two more years, I get full pension for the rest of my life. What you're telling me is that you took the job in two years from today.
The answer is, yes, you took the job, but it was A few years from today. He goes, I didn't say that, but yes, that is exactly what it means. I said, Great. On your weekends, I'm going to do some homework for me. I hired him on the spot and we started working research. The research was good, but. I said, Let's work on glotium molecule. I said, Well, I work on large protein molecules and we have this technology that we've been working on. I said, I want a specific glotium. While he was not even working for me, we started working together. It took us some years. It took a lot of cationolite nights, and we burned everything off. We even burned one of our lyophilizers. Oh, my God. I didn't have any money, and I burned a $40,000 lyophilizer one time in my lab, and I was so mad at myself. I said, How am I going to pay for this thing anymore? But like everything else, right? When it comes to 2007, we had a molecule ready in my hands with a glirothion because guess what? No doctor, nobody was believing that this is going to ever be created.
My pharmacist's brain thought, Hey, let me get something just unique enough so it's stable enough. Once it's stable enough, I can play with it to make it better for me. I have the first stable molecule at room temperature, water-based system, glilithine ready in my lab. Anyways.
Couple of terms you said, so the audience knows because I know we know it, but liposome, N-S. The lyophilized machine, what are those things?
Oh, okay, absolutely. So liposome technology is... You know what they do is they take this molecule, which is very hard to absorb or very easy to get destroyed, and they put layers of this of the soy or the lesser than that layers on top of it. So layer after layers after layers. So when it goes to the stomach, the stomach opens up the layer like killing the onion, right? Opens up the layers, and by the time it comes to the last layer, hopefully it's passed through the intestines. It doesn't get broken down into the stomach acid, and in the intestines, it gets absorbed. So that's the premise of liposome technology. And it works pretty good for all those products that get destroyed by the stomach acid. But glargine, it doesn't get destroyed by the stomach acid. Well, it does get destroyed by the stomach acid, too, but it also gets destroyed by the enzymes. Because when you eat, I'm assuming you eat meat. Oh, yeah. What? You eat meat. Oh, yeah. You eat meat. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Let's see you eat a piece of steak. Does a steak muscle go straight to your muscle? I wish.
No, it just does. It does, right? No, it does not. What it does, the body actually uses your own energy to break it down into what? A Amino acids. The amino acid gets absorbed, and you need 3,000 one amino acid chain coming together to make one muscle fiber. All these amino acids have to come together to make the muscle fiber for you. The body is designed to do what? To take all these proteins, peptides, whatever you eat, break it down, absorb the amino acids, and use the building blocks to make it for you. Now, I wish there's all this peptides that we can give you that doesn't get broken down and you can use up as is. But in reality, all the peptides will be getting broken down by the human body. Even though glufine is a natural peptide, the body makes it naturally. So you think that body will absorb it because it needs it. The body is not designed to take what it needs from outside sources. The body is designed to take the raw materials and make all the stuff you need from inside. And so when I realized that part, that was the game changer.
So liposome technology was that technology that did not serve the purpose for glyotide. It served the purpose for all the other molecules, but not for glylotide. The lyophilization process is what you do is you create a product in a liquid-based system. Some of the liquid-based systems have a very short life because they get denatured, they get oxidized very, very fast. So what you do is you draw all the out. It makes a powder form. Then what the doctors do is they add the water and inject into your body instantaneously.
That's where I was going. When you get the bottle, just for everybody listening, you get your vial of peptide, and that's what you're doing. Then it's creating that so then they can Clean it up with the bacterial esthetic water.
Boom. Injected, right? That's it. We are the liafer as a machines. I have two of these machines in my lab.
You can use that right on site.
I was doing that on site, doing all this work. Again, I wanted to make sure that we create... Again, It's all lab servers we have, but they're still expensive. If I get a pharmaceutical-grade machine, they're like $2, $3 million for a small machine like that. But even the small machines with my paycheck, $40,000 is a lot of money back then, 25 years ago. When I blew the machine up, I said, Oh, my God, I just almost killed myself that day. I said, What am I going to do now? But the good thing is we are both researchers, scientists, and with my engineering background. Before I went to pharmacy school, this is one more story. Before in pharmacy school, I was in engineering school.
Okay, that makes sense.
I said, Hey, between me and Dr. Trent, both of us, I said, I think we can fix this machine.
No way.
I love it. We fixed the machine. It took us almost six months to fix the machine. I love that. Because we didn't have the money to do anything else. So we fixed the machine ourselves. We cleaned up everything, all the gaskets, everything was all cleaned up from inside and everything. Oh, my gosh. It took us six months to do that process. But we did it. We did it ourselves.
Do you have your own compounding pharmacy? Yes, I do. Okay. If you can, can you say what it takes cost-wise? Because I have to imagine that's a tremendous cost to set up a compounding pharmacy, isn't it? With the machines you're talking about to have the right equipment. Then also, to just have the right knowledge based on how to do that. Is that difficult? I mean, cost-wise and then hiring the right people, the time, and then what's the approval process for that? Because it just sounds intense.
It is intense today. 45 years ago, there was no laws.
Nobody knew, right?
Nobody knew, right? It was a Wild West deal. The real cost was there because guess what? The industry was not making small equipment for labs, small labs. So it was just massive. Everything was massive equipment. If I want a small blender for my lab, no, that's too small. We don't make a giant size blender if you want those. No, I want a small one in my lab.
It wasn't meant for a small set.
It was not meant. We had to go offshoot and get people to custom make the machines for us. It was a little expensive at that time, but we needed these machines to get these products out.
These were a step ahead of everybody then because there wasn't that many people doing these types of things back then. Was there or were there?
In California, California was the first year to start issuing licenses for company pharmacies. I think my license was either 8 or nine or something like that. Wow. I was one of the very few because I think the infusion, they all applied. The hospitals applied for it. Some of the company pharmacies applied to it, so they all applied together. The order was whatever orders you get. I think I was one of the very first fee licenses in the state of California at that time. I see the journey today, and yes, it is very costly to make it. Making medication is an art. It's absolutely art. It is very costly because we have learned over the years that making medication is good if nothing happens to anybody. But if something happens to one person, it's a big It's a big deal. It's a big deal. We are prepared to make medication 100% safe so nobody gets injured from this medication. That takes a lot of repetition of procedures and processes to making sure that nothing gets That's out of line. We have a full audit teams, internal audit team that we have that we check on a monthly basis.
There's cross-contamination issues that can happen, so we make sure that you don't get somebody else's medication in your model. All those things have to be adjusted and verified. My latest lab was built in 2010, and that lab was actually compliant with the laws that were just passed in 2019. Really? Yeah. The laws passed in 2019, and I was compliant for nine years before The thing is, what that means is that we had the foresight of what it takes to make good medicine. We never have to worry about those changes in the labs.
That's so comforting because I got to tell you, I like regulation, I like regulation. I like monitoring. I like it difficult because I want to ensure what I'm putting in my body and then what I'm also telling others. Because for me, I try to help people and get them on the right path, put them on the right things. My word goes a long way, so I want to have credibility like you and people like yourself on here that I know have gone through this rigorous process of being verified, of people looking into. Then you, of course, you have the right mentality, the right vision, the right desire with what you're doing. But you know there's a lot of people, they see somebody that does something well, and they try to replicate it with a bad premise behind it all and the bad motive. It's refreshing to hear, well, your knowledge base, but what you've gone through and what it's taking you to do what you do. That's why I was wanting to see the process and what it takes, because it's a testament to your hard work and your effort and your willingness to comply.
That's right. Because, Moto, you know how this works. Anybody that does anything with business knows people are always looking for shortcuts.
Always.
You take a shortcut with something like what you're doing, and like you said, it could take somebody's life or it could drastically affect it.
Absolutely. We've been in the business for over 27 plus years. In 27 years, we are very I'm proud to say that not a single person has ever got injured with a medication. We have made some crazy medications for all kinds of people. I mean, most in the United States, but we have people flying in from overseas, from Middle East, and Europe, and Asia. People flying to United States as a medical tourism, and they have some very funky request from the physicians. We made some really unique products in my lifetime and with zero injuries. We are very happy about that because we may not have made enough money doing that work because a lot of times the work we do doesn't pay off the time it takes to get it done. We are still scraping for some money. But the thing is, We have been very blessed with the ability to serve so many people around the globe.
That's awesome. Let me ask you this. I want to go back to something you said earlier that I find fascinating. Because you said you were doing the vitamin C and the other things, and you said when you brought up glutathione, they're like, Oh, no, don't do that. Why was there such a lack of understanding and knowledge of how important and how impactful glutathione was back then? How did you find that before others? Why did you see that? Because for me, knowing what I know and how important it is, it is vital, and we're going to get into that.
Let me tell you how important growth iron is first. I think the audience needs to hear this part. Please. If they don't know this part, then Then they will understand why I went to this rabbit hole. Imagine you come to your house, you and your wife come walk in the house, and you have kids, and you have a hope you have somebody living in your house. The house is absolutely a mess. There's trash everywhere. You go to the kitchen, the stove is completely filthy as the look at the dishes has not been done yet. Your counter is all messy. Say, Oh, my God, let me go to my bedroom. You go to the bed's not made yet. The clothes everywhere. The laundry hasn't been done yet. The bathroom's dirty. And he goes, My God, where do I begin? And then, about the time the kids comes, I'll say, Hey, dad, can you make some dinner for us? Well, I'd love to make dinner for you, but who's going to clean up this mess first? So what you do is you do bare minimum, clean the stove, do some dishes, and make some dinner. Then you serve the dinner, and then you serve the dinner, and then you get what you do after Are you now, let's do some homework with the kids or do other things.
No. I said, You do what you have to do, I got to clean this mess first. You, what you do, based on what you do, you're not being effective by cleaning your own house because you're a very good person that have a business, entrepreneur, you have other things to do in life, but you're doing some work that doesn't require your attention. Imagine you had a maid now in your house. You come home and everything is spotless. The kids are there. It's a dad who let's have dinner. I said, Absolutely. You know what? Let's have dinner together. Let's cook today. Take some vegetables out. Hey, you chop the vegetables. I get the meat on the grill, and let's just work together and get all those things done. Now, you have a different relationship with the kids. They say, Hey, once the dinner is over, let's get into what book are you reading right now? Let's do some book clubbing right now. Let's discuss what you just read, what you learned today. The connection is completely different. You're a different person now. The thing is, the maid made all this happen to you. The maid gets zero glory.
When I talk about this maid, the reason I'm taking the story is Because glylithion does two things for us. It's an antioxidant which is neutralize all the free radicals, so all the damage that can happen because of free radicals, so oxygen or nitrogen, gets neutralized immediately. That happens Every single second because you breathe in oxygen, it causes oxygen species. You got to neutralize those things. We need to do that part. The second part is also aging conjugations in your liver to detoxify all the chemicals you're exposed to. By the way, by the time you wake up in the morning, by the time you leave your house within an hour or two, you're exposed to at least 70 different chemicals that your liver has to detoxify. That's just in the morning. That's just in the morning. By the end of the day, you're exposing yourself to 300 different chemicals, that your body has to get rid of it every single day. The glargine conjugates and aids the liver in getting rid of this molecule. Now, glargine doesn't get the glory because all it does is take the trash out.
Yeah, exactly.
But without that, the body has zero time to repair and restore. If you get a cut on your leg, the If your body goes as a cut, but the body is full of toxins and sugars and every single thing, how long does it take to heal the cut? Take a long time. It's going to take a long time.
It's not healthy, yeah.
If you're a baby, in a few days, it's completely healed. So think about those kinds of things. So even the glurithine may not be this molecule that's going to heal your whole body, but what is it doing is it's Actually unleashing your own body's potential to heal itself. Really? To me, that is way more powerful because the thing is, you can see the cut from outside. What happens if there's some disease from inside that you don't even know? The body knows where the problem is. By the time you do a blood test or scans or something and nothing shows up, I say, Well, there's something's wrong with you still. The body knows what the problem is, but the body is too busy dealing with your junk from the everyday basis. If you get rid of all the things out, the good made for your body, now the body is actually ready to what? To restore, repair your whole body.
Would you say then that glutathion would be key in anti-aging, so to speak? Then when we're talking about senescent cells and spill out from cellular debris and oxidative stress, how would we talk? I I really want to get your insight on cellular repair and how glutathion is so key in that aspect because that's my wheelhouse. I want to hear what you have to say.
Basically, what you say is senescent cells and all the zombie cells and all those things, that's a defense system built into it because the body has gone out of control from oxygen stress. Yes. You want to work on senescent cells, but that's like you're telling me, Oh, yeah, my house is dirty, but let me clean the yard first. I don't care about the yard. I don't care about the yard. Yeah, but if the yard is dirty, then it gives a wrong perception. It doesn't really matter, right? What's going on inside? But if the yard is not clean, the mosquitoes are coming in, the mosquitoes get inside the house. I said, I understand all those things out. But what You got to do is shut from inside out completely. What happens is that when the oxidative stress increases in your body, gluten gets produced and neutralize every single thing. Everything goes back to normal. Oxetine doubles now, but it If it doubles, the body will try to produce more glotine. Sometimes it can, sometimes it cannot. If it can produce that high amount because you have all the other nutrients in your body to do that portion, cell goes back to normal, everything goes It's a big impact.
It triples. If it triples, guess what happens now? Now there's internal damage to the cells. The cells are getting damaged, and we call them the cellular damage is happening. The cell You'll still survive, but now it's causing inflammatory cells. That's bad. What most people are doing is, Oh, let's get the inflammation down. No, inflammation is good for you because it's telling this body that the inflammation is what is sitting in the signals between the pituitary that, Hey, come fix me. But if you have the inflammation down, who's going to fix the problem? We have no noise. We have no signal to go fix the problem. If there's no phone calls coming in, I said, Hey, come fix me, The body thinks that everything is good. All these senescent cells and zombie cells, I'm not saying we should not get rid of it because those cells are bad. We have to try to get rid of it. But don't get rid of it by anti-inflammatory markers. Get rid of it by cleaning the body and allowing your own human body to remove the debris out. As you age, it's not just the senescent cells and the zombie cells we're talking about.
As you age, we eat a lot of junk protein.
I've I've noticed.
We eat a lot of junk protein.
I've noticed it quite a bit.
What happens, let's say, for example, to make a muscle fiber, you need 3,000 amino acid chains, different amino acids. You have 2,500 amino acids, but your firenets are missing. I would love to have this phyrobit. I said, But you know what? It's not there. I'll just stuff something in there. You want to be a strong muscle, but it'll look like a muscle. It look bulky, so it'll look like a muscle, but there's no strength built into that. That That could happen as well. Or the proteins get misfolded, and that could happen. Now we have all these junk proteins inside your body because the body says, I didn't make it correct because they got the wrong signals. All these things needs to be reversed, but you got to start from cleaning the trash out. Without that, nothing actually works. That's why glurathion is, if you only take one supplement in the whole wide world, it better be taking the trash out glurathion, because if you can do that part, you're literally unleashing your own human potential to completely eradicate all kinds of problems inside your body. Because if you think about it, oxygen stress is linked to each and every disease in the world.
Every disease. I'm not here to reverse average diseases, but what I'm here is to, I want to unleash the human potential to fight, to have a fighting chance to deal with this. Because we knew when we went in the last pandemic, there was no drugs that was going to kill the virus. The only people survived is who? A strong immune system. That's right. That's the only people that survived. There's tens of thousands of people dying every single day in Europe, of the weak immune system. In America, all people dying because of the weak immune system. People that had an intact immune system, they didn't die.
Would you say Glutaphion is one of, or would you say it is the key to getting the building foundation of our immune system?
It is the key because it is not building the immune system. What it's doing is allowing the body to build its own immune system because the body will respond to all the invaders if the body has time to respond to it. If the body is too busy dealing with all the chemicals, processing all those chemicals on a daily basis, then the time gets limited. I understand. Time gets limited. The better question is, which vitamin do you take? I take one pill.
That's it.
Besides glulotide, I take one product besides glulotide. The reason is because I take magnesium every single day because I have no time to ground myself. Magneesium discharge electrical charges from your body. It's my way of detoxing electrical charges. I need magnesium every single day. Even with that, magnesium sometimes is low. I eat a banana on top of it every day as well. I love it. That's what my personal regimen is. I was down from 30 vitamins per day to In the last 14 years, my energy level has gone up high. My protein intake has not changed. In fact, I'm a vegetarian, but my protein in my body is at all time high.
Really?
Because of just amino acids. My schedule muscle has gone up. I don't exercise as much. What has happened is the diet alone, the body will start stacking your body with whatever the needs are going to be. When I realized that part, I said, Oh, my God. I mean, don't get me wrong, if you exercise and do all the right things, you will definitely build the muscles really fast and good muscles really fast. It's very necessary. But if you are If you're a dad, if you have a job and you have kids and you're just doing the regular stuff like you and me, right? You have a job and you have kids and raising a family, all those things. We don't have time to work out eight hours a day, every day. It gets tricky. It gets tricky, right? What can I do to make sure that I can have the same potential of having longevity in life without killing myself in doing all the exercises? I figured out that if I can just control what goes in my mouth, I can literally help my body.
I preach that often, and it's more on the diet side where I tell everybody, You can't outwork a bad diet. You just can't do it. I know everybody thinks you can, but you cannot. What you're putting into your mouth is everything, really. I mean, you can train all day long. You can take all the supplements and every peptide and everything else under the sun. It's not going to... It's what you do with how you eat and what you take and supplement, like what you're talking about. When I say supplements, I'm talking like performance enhanceers and things that everybody think are going to make them the greatest thing on Earth. That's not how it works.
It's just not- They'll look good, though.
Yeah, they'll look good on the surface.
On the surface.
But what are you going on inside? It's a terrible thing. It's like, not to go off top, it was like the calories in, calories out guys. Here, all calories are equal. Oh, really? Really? Show me the blood panels on the McDonald's eaters versus the lean protein and vegetables and eating right people. Then we'll talk. Then tell me they're all equal. Exactly. That's a totally different argument. Okay, let's dig in a little bit more to the glutathione aspect of things. Like you said, it's important for detoxification, oxidative stress.
I wish I had some of my customers' testimonials over here because I had so many people calling me and said, Hey, how come you don't say the glutathion is good for sleeping? Oh, my God, I sleep like a baby now. I said, Well, because the thing is, it doesn't affect everybody the same way. Yeah, of course. Here's the thing. Your brain is 2% of your total body, yet it consumes 20% of all the oxygen that you breathe in. Here's the thing. If you breathe less oxygen, because guess what? Most people are shallow readers. They don't extend their belly when they breathe. That means the doctor never comes down. It doesn't come down. They just be on the top of the lungs, in and out, in and out all day long. They're not going all the way down. They're shallow breeders, so guess what? They don't have enough oxygen to begin with. And then with less oxygen, guess what? Now, the brain gets everything first. The body doesn't get nothing. So the highest amount of stress is in your brain. People don't realize that that needs to be neutralized. If you don't neutralize it correctly, and then most people, again, it's very hard to generalize everybody in the same category, but anxiety, sleep issues, it's some other factors as well that are involved with it.
But if I can reduce oxygen stress down, the body actually gets a chance to relax it and you think better. If you can think better, then guess what? I want you to think about one thing. If you can think better, the thing which you do have versus what you don't have. If you just have an abundance mindset, Hey, everything I need, I have most of the things anyways. If you make $50,000 a year versus $500,000 a year, if you have good habits at $50,000, you're going to have a good habit at $500,000 a year if you make it. If you have bad habit, if you cannot survive $500,000, guess what? You will not be able to survive $500,000 either. It doesn't really matter. It's a mindset. Abundance mindset needs to kick in for everybody and practice daily gratitudes. But the thing is, it's easier said than done because you can do that part, but if you're crank, if you didn't sleep at night, if somebody else is stressed in your brain, it's really hard to kick in that part. We've been partnering with some NFL teams for glufan concussion protocols and things like that. What we have done is with one of the researchers in Pittsburgh Eric, have done some brain mapping studies, and they use the topical form of the glufan that we make it.
He goes, Oh, my God, this is the only glufan that actually crosses blood-been barrier. I have never known about that part. I said, It's like instantaneous. Like the light bulb holds up in your brain. We don't know what all the ramifications at this point yet is very early on, but there's a potential that if we can do that part, then one day we'll be able to predict that, Hey, if I can reduce the excess stress in your brain down, we can delay the onset of all kinds of neurological issues that exist today. Because today, there's not a single cure or a drug that can reverse any of the neurological disorders today. Yeah, not exactly. If the glargine is what the body produces to deal with it, and now if it's technology to enter the blood-brain barrier, there's a potential long term. Anecdonally, I've been noticing something great because I've been using for a few years now myself, that my sleep parents are good. I use the ring for 30 days. I trash it after the 30 days because my worst score was 90. That was my worst day. Every day was either 94, 95 or anything like that.
Why? Why did you have this stuff? I don't wear anything on my body at all because whatever I measure has everything is just got to improve so much right now.
You already I already know.
But here's the thing. I know you're going to ask me this question about testing for glulotide. I'll just tell the answer right now before you ask me this question. But you will. Because-forshadowing. Because testing of glulotide because I thought, Hey, if I'm doing glulotide every single day, my level should be very high. When I first got the product ready in 2007, I was given the very high dose of glulotide because I thought, Hey, gluotide is inert completely, no problem, right? Right. I gave some high doses, and oh, my God, I had so much bad reactions in people. Yeah. The doctors are saying, Hey, this thing is we need to work on this one better because I get all kinds of herxiaid reactions happening. People are just detoxing like crazy. He goes, Okay, let's calm down. Let's figure it out. Let's figure it out. We're not selling the product yet. We did some clinical trials, and What we found out was only 100 milligrams is all you need. I'm at four sprays, twice a day is all you need to sustain your whole body. I've been using four sprays twice a day. Perfect. That's all you need.
After six years of using the product, I did my blood test, and my results came back, my growth and levels are low. Low normal, low. I called the CEO of the company. I said, This is wrong. I'm a little annoyed with you right now because I know my growth and levels are good. He goes, Well, I understand you believe in your product, but I also believe in my product, and my product is a machine. Machines, they just interpret, they don't analyze. They just They don't tell you what it is. They don't, Oh, this is then, so let me just give them a high number. No, they just analyze what it is. Let's dig into more detail. What I found out was if you take the gluthrine, what your body needs, it's like, for example, Dylan Let's say you need $5,000 a month to survive. If I give you $5,000 every single month, how much money you have left over in three months?
Well, that's just it. Probably in the negative.
Zero. Because you need $5,000. I give you $5,000.
But I would spend more But what happens in five years?
Instead of zero amount repaid, because whatever your needs are is been then. If my needs are met on a daily basis, guess what? My levels never rises. But then it goes, what you need to look at it is not the value of time levels. It's not about how much money is left over. That's the wrong way. What did you have now? I give you $5,000 a month. You have a new car, a house. You have some new toys. What else? You have everything money you can buy. He opened my eyes for the very first time that, Hey, don't look at gluatine levels. Look at all the things that gluatine can do to improve your body. Then he gave me a 72-page report, all my mitochondrial supports, all my cholesterol, my heart health, my liver. Oh, my God, it's like perfect. When I saw those results and the CEO saw that result, you know what? I need your product because I've never seen these results before. This is this is insane. Every different organ systems in a perfect... Like a young kid. When I saw the results, so even though I said, You look at the wrong markers, don't look at gluantive because you only take what your body needs.
Exactly. The body doesn't store anything extra. If it has to store, guess what? It has to work. So don't give anything.
That's the more is always better concept. Then a lot of times, it's actually going to have an adverse reaction. If you were saying, so many of us, I still try to not do it, but every once in a while, you get that mentality. Like you said, you're taking 30 supplements. Well, this does this, this does this. You start doing that, and then you start having all these reactions, and then you don't know what's causing it. What's causing it. Because you're taking so many different things.
Not just supplements, even pharmaceuticals. Yes. I just had it happen.
All the heart medication, they put me on one, two, three, four, and I start getting weird heartbeats and palpitations, think I'm dying. It's because that's too much going on. It's called stacking.
Yeah. Everything is tacking. It never gets off.
No, it's just tacking. It just keeps going on and on Until something bad happens. Then you start taking one and one-off and one-off, and then you just don't want to take any because you're scared. It's a vigorous, vigorous thing that goes on that we all go through. I've done it because I coach people in bodybuilding, so you can imagine I've coached on that and seen in that aspect. Then everybody will want to run 20 and 30 peptides because one's great. Let's add this. Well, this can do this. Well, this can do this. It's like, brother. I know. It's too much. The thing is, if you understand what peptides are, they're all signaling molecules. Exactly.
The signals are already there in your body. You're not just listening to it. So get rid of the noise. The body can listen to all the signals you have. Get rid of the noise. The noise is what? Pollution, food, alcohol, cigarettes. Get rid of all the stuff. When the noise goes away, the body listens to every signal you got. When that happens, you can absolutely rebuild your body. I don't care if they're 30 years old or an 89 years old. That's the reason I say 89 years old because there's a story about my dad in there. Because my dad had the same heart issue, completely blocked artery, 100% blocked. The doctor comes out and says, Oh, my God, I can't believe he survived. He's completely blocked. He should have been dead. The NGO put a stent in there, and of course, a slew of the medication comes out. I said, Dad, you don't need any of this medication because you don't have cholesterol issue. You don't have heart issue. Yes, you have the clogged arteries. That's inflammation. But the medications they're giving you, something different. That doesn't deal the inflammation, doesn't deal the root cause, deal the symptoms.
I said, Dad, you don't need any of this medication. For the instead, I'm going to put you on a blood thinner for a few months because I don't want you to get clot out or in me. I'm putting you on blood thinner for three months, but other than that, no medications. No. I put them on glulotriol. He was my patient number one. Really? Patient number one. He was 17 years old. He was a little chubby, not fat, a little chubby, walks diabetes for 35 plus years, authorized for 30 plus years, blood pressure issues. But nothing. He was surviving. It's surviving. Like an average person, 78. My mom passed away 25 plus years ago, so he was single. I said, I'm just counting my days and things like that. Plus this happened. I said, Okay. I put him on glufosine. I said, Dad, just take this one. I had no idea what to do. I said, Just take it because I think it might do good for you. I had no other ideas. I started giving him the glufosine. About two and a half years later, the first thing I noticed was that his sugar levels were completely normal.
His sugar levels were just perfect. He started eating a whole bunch of carbs and sugar and things like that. I said, Dan, what are you doing? But anyway, then I started seeing that he started walking six miles a day. Six miles a day, he was arthritis. Six miles a day walking with no pain. That happens. Then goes around. By the time he's age of 84 now, he's traveling the countries now. He's traveling every single year, some country on his own. Paxing bags and leaves. Eighty-four comes on, he gets his hip issues, and he goes to car par, and say, Oh, that's because your knees are bent. Get your knee replacement done. So I take him to a doctor, and he convinced the doctor to give both the knee replacements at the same time. Two knee replacements. At the age of 84, the doctor says, Oh, I can do it, but the recovery is going to be...
Sound fun.
Six months of recovery, and I don't know. But then I'll do whatever it takes. Both knee replacement done at the same time. Walked out of the hospital in a day and a half, walked it out. Of course, they were in a wheelchair, but they walked in the car after that. They did them for 30 days. He was walking the whole block by his house, whole block. Three months later, he was in India traveling. Three months later, he was in India traveling. That's amazing. Now he's 85 now. He's traveling everywhere. This is not During the pandemic. He says, Oh, no, no, no. Before he shuts out the whole country, I don't leave. So he goes to India, then goes to Africa. We are from Zambia. Zambia goes to Kenya, and he has this letter from his doctor saying, Hey, I had to travel because of my condition. At this age, I'm going to have to get my offers in order. I don't know what he had in the letter, but he had something in the letter. So he just goes everywhere during the pandemic. He traveled literally like almost 13 different countries. He went to Costa Rica with us for 10 days.
He went to National Parks, Yosemite National Parks in California to do hiking over there. He went to Australia, New Zealand. He hiked the Glacier Mountain over there. I mean, talking about... And then last year, he was 89 years old. He didn't even get traveling, still traveling. Now he's getting too barbaric eating streetfoods. I said, Dad, what are you doing? You're eating streetfoods? Come on, right? I said, Just go to a nice restaurant. Just have it. Just go to a nice restaurant. That's good, man. I said, Don't push it. Sure enough, he got loosebar boomer because he lives in America, so he got his bomb moments. Just a little bit of dehydration. But then in the shower, boom, falls down. I said,. But the thing is, he broke his skull. He was bleeding going on. But he calls up. I mean, he's still called in. He called us. Everything was fine. Calls the hospital, comes, picks him up, everything Emmers right away, goes to hospital, and he goes, Oh, my God, this is not fun. Mri comes out. There's this internal bleeding going on. But he's talking to us. There's no loss of memory. Of course, who do I call this chief neurosurgeon for NFL?
He's a friend of mine. I say, Dr. Maroon. I say, Please, my dad, follow. I said, Where is he? He's in India. I said, Okay, what hospital? Give me some information. Okay, I'm going to go in my chamber right now, but I'll call him back in 2 hours. Because he has to go to the chamber. Because He does this chamber thing in the Hyperbed chamber. He was in the chamber, and within 2 hours, there was a neurosurgeon visiting my dad in India.
Wow.
He calls me. I was, Hey, I'm with your dad right now over here. I got a call that he's fall down, so I just called down. I just wanted to check up on him. There's some internal bleeding going on, but he's very healthy. I mean, there's absolutely no brain damage whatsoever. None. It is absolutely insane. I've never seen this before. At the age of 89, I said, If everything goes okay and if the bleeding stops in the next three or four days, in 10 days, he'll be able to travel back to America. So he hears that. My dad, of course. He's, I told you, I'll be fine. I said, Don't worry. I said, Dad, my brother's going to He's going to come with you. He's going to come right now and he's going to come pick you up, right? I said, No, don't worry. I'll be fine. He started making all the phone calls. Everybody talks to everybody. I said, I'd fall down, but I'll be okay. It's about 11: 30 at night time. They go, go to sleep. I said, I'll talk to you tomorrow. Takes a selfie. Takes a selfie on at the cell phone, and he goes to sleep.
That was his last day. He didn't wake up again. The thing is, from the age of 78 to 89, 13 countries. He walked 6 miles a day. He enjoyed his life. He did all the traveling with arthritis for 30 plus years, diabetes 2, diabetes for 30 plus years, blood pressure issues, angio-crap, all these things, no medication. He was not just surviving, he was living his life. To me, that story gives me hope for Everybody that's listening to it today, that no matter how old you are, your body will never give up on you. You will give up on yourself, but your body will never give up on you. So please, please do the right thing. Do Do the right thing about eating the right food, sleeping properly, not drinking alcohol, not smoking, doing the glylith iron if you have to. Do all those things to give a fighting chance for your body to literally heal itself.
Adding Life to your years, not years to your life, right? That's the key. That's the key. I want to tell everybody to go check out your websites because you have a lot of information, and I've studied it pretty thoroughly, and talking about all the benefits of glutathine because there's more we didn't get to, but you brought it up, insulin resistance, health, and so many other things that you've brought up about it. But I wanted to really drive home how important it is. Sure. I think that it gets talked about a hell of a lot more than it ever did, but I still don't think enough.
Well, there's only one book of glutathine, which is the Glutine Revolution, the last 20 plus years. There's too many products. Here's the one thing that I want to tell people as well. When you do the wrong thing, when you take a wrong Glutine product, it's not that it's not working for you. It's working a little bit for you. But what's not working for you is that you're losing your time, which you'll never get back, which you'll never, ever get back. That's the most important part for me is, it's not that you should try other products. But what happens is that you're missing out on time. I'm sorry that it took me 14 years to release a product to the public because I discussed in 2007, and I didn't release the product in 2021. It took me 14 years to release the product because I wanted to make sure that it was actually absolutely safe. I wanted to make sure that it does what it's supposed to do. I wanted to make sure that you can take in perpetuity and still get the results after 10 years if you're taking the product. Once I got this data back in, I could not I wouldn't wait for one day to release the product.
I know as a middle of a pandemic, I'm going to release the product. I had no supply chain coming in because the whole world was shut down. I'd release a product, release a company during that time because I could not wait at that time. But now I tell people, Please don't waste time on trying something else because you're just wasting time. Eventually, you are going to end up using this product for the rest of your life. I want to make sure that why waste time if you have it already available to them?
All the money in the world does not buy back time.
Nobody.
I had lost a couple of years. Long story, and you can't get it back. That's why I hold such a significant value on it now, because I understand just how valuable every second is. I think people need to realize that and taking the proper steps to ensure that you're getting longer lifespan, but living better and actually enjoying it because what is it if you're not living it? We need a couple more hours to get through what I need to go through. Oh, my goodness. Probably going to have to do a part, too. Tell everybody where to get your products. You got a little offer for them, too, for my guests.
I want to use your name for sure for your audience because I want to honor you for having me over here on your podcast. Thank you. I appreciate it. If you go to aurowellness. Com, aurowellness. Com, just the code is Dylan on there, D-Y-L-A-N. At least you get some money off the product to try it out. At the same time, also check out our newest product that we are launching.
I'm excited, man. I am so excited for that one.
It's the same technology, another tripeptide. That's coming up. I don't know if we have time to discuss all my detail about this. That's going to be part two for sure.
Yeah, one of my favorite comp.
That's GHK-KCU.
I'm a skincare guy. We'll get into that next time. But I've got years upon and so that is one of those compounds, and I get into the big... I like the healing protocol. I like KPV and GHKCU and BPC and TB500, but the GHKCU, specifically- It is absolutely amazing.
When I I remember she was for six weeks alone, and when I saw my scan, and the lady that did the scan, she was like a 25-year-old girl. She goes, Let me see your scan. I said, Do you need a sunscreen, sunblock? I said, No. Perfect. Let me do your scan. Let me show you what's wrong with The skin, right? Yeah. The skin comes out. What the hell? What are you doing? What are you doing? She wants to buy the product from me. He launched the product yet. When she saw that, oh, my God, I've never seen a single dot of sun damage on my whole face. I'm bald, right? I mean, it's everywhere, right? I'm in California, it's sun all the time. And so, yeah, that is absolutely a game changer. And for your audience, I just want to make sure that they understand that, hey, we are here to serve you, right? So my goal is to try the products, and there is no harm, no foul. If you don't like the product for any reason, give me one-star review or call my office, we'll do a full refund for you. Because I don't want people to feel like, Oh, should I waste my time or not?
No, there's no wasting time.
That's credibility, and I love it.
There's no wasting time. I don't care who you are. Everything needs to be done correctly.
Well, when you come back, which I hope you do, I want to get into other aspects that we got to get into that I know you know. I want to get into hormones, testosterone, TRT, peptides. We got to get into that because that's- That's for 27 years of my life. I know that. I know, and that's what I've been doing for 15, so I want this conversation with you badly. So, man, listen, thank you so much for coming out here, and thank you for waiting for me after this half. Just so everybody knows, I showed up here and I normally bring a shirt ironed and I wear a tank top in the car and everything's ready so I don't get wrinkles. I get out of the car and I said to my wife, Holy shit, I didn't bring my shirt. I'm sitting here in Dr. Vittal in a suit. I'm in here in a tank top from the gym. I blitzed in the car, did one of those jerk moves and passed somebody going 100 miles an hour, only to let them get up to the stop sign to me and pull up next to me.
I'm just not looking at them. Run into the store, buy a shirt, and get back over here. So thanks for putting up with that nonsense. I appreciate it. I love what you do, man. And I knew this was why I was looking forward to this interview, but you just over-exceeded expectations, which were already high. So thank you. I appreciate it. I can't wait to talk to you more off camera and again on Try Your Products. Get out, check out this man's book. Follow him. Definitely try the product. He has put years of his life into this with good reason. And I stand by him a trillion not a million, a trillion %. So Dr. Patel, thank you again for your time. I appreciate it. And that concludes another episode, everybody. Stay tuned for plenty more to come. Dylan Jameli signing off.
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