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So we come in this morning and we'll have conversations around the table, you know, doing a little bit of eating maybe, you know, getting some breakfast, I mean, and, you know, just going over, talking about life sometimes, you know. Is there anything less interesting than hearing someone tell you about their fantasy football team? It's up there, man.
Less interesting?
I mean, that's brutal.
I mean, look, if we're putting that— if we're saying less interesting versus the field, it's a conversation. It is definitely a conversation. This is Tiger Woods in its prime right now, right?
Now, now I'm even gonna ask you, I'm gonna take it a step further, okay? Because as you may know, I mean Football season hasn't started yet.
I may know.
So someone may be like, what do you talk about, Zazzle? How do you talk about someone's fantasy football team when most of you haven't even had your fantasy football drafts yet? I mean, preseason starts tonight, I guess officially, right? Because you had the Hall of Fame, but you had a bunch of preseason games tonight. How can you talk about a fantasy football team? How? Is there anything worse than hearing someone talk about not even their fantasy football draft? Because that's bad enough.
Mm-hmm. Their fantasy football pre-draft.
Their fantasy football Mock draft, guys.
It's mocking season and you're mocking me right now for what I was doing before the show. Yeah, it's me. I'll wear this. This is me. I often make— I don't want to hear in season about like your loss. Oh, I had 2, I was down by 2 points. That I'm with you is not interesting. But the preseason keeper leagues, hey, should I trade this pick? Should I keep this guy to give up this pick? It's like the value of picks, players. I am in this 2-week period, the next 2 weeks, or mocking season.
You do any— is there mock pre-draft combine? You have any of that going on?
No, I'm not that crazy.
I don't even understand the concept of doing the mock drafts. What— why would you want to have a mock draft and let other people know your line of thinking? Well, you don't do it with the people in your league, you dunce. You do it— oh, I'm the dunce now? So you're telling me— you're telling me that everyone that you're doing this mock draft with, everyone is just— that they're showing all their cards? They're doing it the way they would actually do the draft?
I don't know. You've clearly never mocked. It's a computer. You're like, I have the 10th 10th pick in my league. So I enter a mock draft at the 10th pick, and then all the other picks are simulated. So I'm just kind of—
wait, there's not other people in it just like you?
You can do live ones with other people. I'm saying I do the mocks that are just computer generated other than me.
That would defeat the purpose, right? If you did it with the people you're going to compete with, then it kind of, like you said, shows the cards. You have to do something. So here's the crazy thing: in this age of AI, can I enter in 10 years of fantasy football transactions, drafts, trades, everything, and then have the computer simulate what it thinks each one of the people are going to do.
I like, I like—
oh my God, oh my God, look at me, I like AI now.
This is a tough spot for me because while I find these conversations interesting off air, I'm not sure these work on a podcast.
No, not really.
So like, I love these in my personal life of, hey Lewis, should I keep Trey McBride if I have to give up a second round pick? Like, that question is super interesting off air. I'm not sure how interesting it is on air.
Mike, what do you think?
I haven't been—
we've been watching real football on the TV.
Cam Ward threw a dime to Cornell.
Absolute bombs, 65 yards. Also, I think Mendoza is going to be pretty good.
I think so too. The way the game breaks down in the NFL, like, he excels. He rises to the moment. That's how you play football.
Clint Kubiak.
Last night was a big night for the Cyclones, am I right?
That's right, an actual draft, not mocking, not, not some fantasy football draft in which you don't actually form a team and draft players that you actually really have nothing to do with. The Cyclones drafted last night.
We drafted guys and I had to like, when they walk up, they get their hat and I dap them up.
So everyone is there?
No, we got some guys trapped in Spain.
But are like the majority of players who are eligible to be drafted there?
We get to FaceTime with the players that aren't there. It's just like a real draft. Not every player drafted gets to be there and gets handed a hat.
You never watched a draft before? There are guys sitting on the couch with their family members.
You know about drafts? Come on, man.
You ever watch sports?
Yeah, I watch sports.
All right. It works the same way as any other draft, any other big-time draft. We had our captain there, Manu. Man, it was great to see Manu out there.
He looks good.
He does look good. You're always going to say he looks good, though.
It's good on him.
Unda was available via FaceTime, man. Unda is jacked up about this season. He was at a bar following along on FaceTime. And then at one point, an hour into our FaceTime, unbeknownst to us, he put on his highlight helmet. That's how charged up he was.
Why do we never have draft prospects do their draft party from a bar? I think that would be awesome. It's like, and with the 75th pick, the Raiders select so-and-so, and he's got a beer in his hand.
Yeah, no, but he's everywhere. He's talking about a player who's already on the team is following along at the bar. Like, why, why isn't like an NBA player, you know, watching his team's pick? I would love to see that from a bar.
I would love to see that. I would love to see Max Crosby have a watch party.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh man, you know what? We could be stumbling on a great concept.
This is a great piece of content here. Who cares about, you know, Cameron Boozer? Well, let's see his teammates react to him being drafted. That's way more interesting. Yeah, let's see Ja Morant's draft party.
Well, then Ja Morant got traded like a week later.
You know what I mean though? This is a whole new piece of tent. Yeah, I'm liking this. Well, as you know, It's the hardest spot in Highlighted Draft from when you're a runner-up.
You know, everyone knows that.
Yeah. The champion gets to keep 4. You only get to keep 3 and you have the worst draft spot. So we only got to keep 3. Our beloved Jairo is no longer on our team. He actually got drafted a round before his division freeze spot. He would have been a division 3 freeze. He actually went in round 2. So we're bummed to see him go.
Did you enjoy— like, will there be a tribute, video tribute?
Ooh, that's a good idea. We're really upping our social game.
Ethan, get on that.
Yeah, that's a great idea. Thank you, Zazz, because we didn't know that we weren't going to be able to keep Jairo until yesterday. It was a very difficult decision to unkeep him. So we kept Manu, we kept Iñaki, and we kept Unda.
Oh, Iñaki.
Yeah, the Unda Taker.
Yeah.
And where one door closes with Jairo, an Etcheberry-sized door opened. That's it. I can see it on your face.
You're excited.
Etcheberry.
Etcheberry. Is a Cyclone. And guess what? We also got to keep Bradley, who had the best season of his career. And Rock is back as a Cyclone.
Jack, the Rock?
No, Rock Williams, a former national champion for the University of Miami baseball team. He's back in the backcourt. We're going to ask a lot of our, of, of Unda and Bradley. They're going to be playing some frontcourt as well. Hybrids, if you will.
We kind of, we did a thing where we could have taken just like the easy position, like, okay, we kind of need this position. We went with best player We're going to have some guys playing a little out of position at times, but we think our roster is just— we made the— we went with the best player as opposed to let me go on a slightly lesser player at this right position. We went with let's get the best players on the roster.
Debates at the table. I had to pull rank. But, you know, the player that we asked to play frontcourt, I love what Bradley said. Whatever helps the team. Yeah.
Boss, Tony, you doing all right there? Badam tss. What's going on, man? I don't mean to interrupt you, Mike, but that was—
he went through a lot of stress yesterday.
I did.
I'm checking on him.
Yeah, he was—
remember yesterday he was show's designated survivor, strapped to a chair for like 6 hours. So what's that phone? So nobody told me that didn't happen.
Yeah, and normally people would like to make fun of Tony for being overprepared. I think we should commend him.
Thank you.
All right, but you doing okay?
Yeah, I'm good.
Did you float?
No, because I was strapped down to the chair. But again, it was just chairs strapped down to My wife had to strap me down to said chair. I was a designated survivor not only for the show but for my family.
But did you strap the chair down?
Yeah, otherwise you're floating in a chair.
No, no, no, the chair was strapped down.
Okay, that's not—
But I was also strapped to a column in my house.
That's not how that works.
What are you talking about?
That's not how that works. You think in the rapture, like—
This isn't the rapture.
This wasn't the rapture. A lot of Protestants might have believed that once they started ascending, but then after—
Gravity doesn't discriminate.
This is unrelated.
Oh, you don't know what took place yesterday?
I thought it was the rapture.
No, a lot of Protestants might have thought that initially when they started ascending because of the zero gravity, but then after 7 seconds it would crash down to Earth and realize, oh, the internet was right about this just being the 7 seconds of zero gravity.
So it was just like an unrelated gravity breach? Yeah.
NASA apparently knew about it. Look, it was a lot like Y2K. We were really afraid about it. We, we, we had to take the proper precautions, and when everybody's safe, no one cares to think about, oh, maybe we're safe because precautions we took.
Well, I'd like to clarify something yesterday that you jamokes were talking about, about Y2K. Because poor young Jeremy, I don't think he understood. He thought it was like, I can't believe people believed in it. Y2K was real. The reason why it didn't happen was because they did all the precautions. Like, that stress was real about the computers messing up the clocks, and so they had to reprogram the dates from 2-digit year to 4-digit year in order to prevent that. It would have had— they still didn't know for sure it was going to work, but they had to do it. Like, Jeremy was under the belief that, like, you guys will believe anything.
Yeah, he thought it was like a kooky conspiracy.
It's like, it's not a conspiracy.
Like, on the evening news, like on the black internet or —something, right? And it's the only place—
it's a dark web.
Yeah, people had to work.
Wild thing, I've never heard it called the black internet. Well, the black internet. Yeah, I've heard of black Twitter, but you see that black internet was wild, Zazz.
Holy cow, you saw that Empire season finale? Like, that's the black internet. No, but like, people had to work round the clock in order to fix this. Uh, financial institutions Air traffic control, defense, like it touched every single industry. It wasn't just, it wasn't like, oh, 2012 is the end of the world. Like that's how Jeremy thought he was talking about. Like, what are you talking about? Right. Sometimes you guys, I don't know. I'm like, huh?
Right.
I thought you were alive for this, man.
I was. I talked plenty about it.
Yeah, I don't think we— You didn't talk about it. Dropped the ball there all that much.
You didn't, you let him live in that fantasy like, oh, you guys are just idiots. Like, well—
No, I was telling him though, this was something that was talked about everywhere. This was not like a small little—
It's not that it was talked about. It was real. They actually had to go and reprogram things.
A bunch of resources poured in there, and we made it through in large part because of that stuff. Now, the notion— I can, I can see where Jeremy's coming from. Like, wait a second, you're— all the computers that we made in the '80s and '90s would have thought that 00 meant we're in the Stone Ages now, and we know to shut everything off. I can get, like, the skepticism there.
I'm being told, like, when you would go to Best Buy, there would be, like, Y2K ready stickers put on items. Yeah, which is crazy.
Y2K compliant. Yeah, that was, that was because it was real, man. Like all these things were designed without people thinking about, hey, what happens when the year 2000 hits? And then pretty quickly they figured out like, oh no, like we gotta, we gotta fix this. And they did.
Oh wow, great nostalgia right now. Yeah, you had to turn your computers off. Everybody had to turn their computers off. So that wouldn't flip. Yeah, because there was a concern that the 00 would make it blow up potentially.
It was— look, man, like, if you think about it, it's not that like all of a sudden we're gonna go back in time. It's that the idea that the computers that control all of these things— your bank account, your— with the flight info, all that stuff, missiles, all that, all that stuff— would go haywire because it's like, whoa, it's— and by the way, I don't think it would go back to the year zero. They could go back to year 1900 because it automatically—
may as well be the year zero.
Well, for a computer, that's the Stone Ages. Are we talking—
are we talking about time travel? You want to say going back in time, like Well, that's what Jeremy was like.
Did you guys think you would wake up and like dinosaurs are walking around? Like, what are you talking about?
He was just being Jeremy. Dan Levitar.
Analytics have slash are ruining the game. We're playing AI hoops. That's his team.
His team's in the forefront of all that.
Dan's ass. Don't steal my thunder.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Jonathan Sasselow. I get carried away. This is the Dan Levitar Show. Speaking of dinosaurs, by the way, today, today's Thursday, and everybody knows that on Thursdays when new movies come out, out. All right, movies used to come out—
you all right, Tony?
Fridays. Yeah, I'm good. Movies used to come out on Fridays. Movies now come out on Thursdays.
Well, they used to come out Thursday at like the midnight showing because technically it's Friday. Friday. And then at some point the, the studios are just like, okay, let's make it Thursday at like 8 PM. And I'm like, what are we doing? Right.
Well, do you think we're ever gonna get to a— well, now, well, now it's also Thursday like afternoon. It's not just 8 PM. When do you think we'll move to Wednesday?
We do.
We already know. I know we do Wednesday for like Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving.
Yep. Wednesday. Christmas Wednesday. It's a lot. Yeah. Like, I, I think The whole thing is because they're trying to— it's all messing with the numbers, right? It's trying to say, oh, we had the biggest opening weekend, right?
Well, do you think then we'll get to Tuesday and then like, like, do you think we'll eventually work our way back to movies opening on Friday?
But it's like last Friday for next weekend, right? That's right. Friday night. So if it's a really good—
it's a whole week.
If it's a really big movie, you'll see Wednesday screenings. Yeah. And Steve Martin also had a feeling. I'll pay the—
I think I just, I think I just blew my own mind. Yeah. That, that we keep getting a day earlier, went back, then we could eventually get back to Friday. For movie. I think I just blew my mind. But $5, Mike, The End of Oak Street has a media score on Rotten Tomatoes. Yeah, this movie End of Oak Street, which we brought up yesterday, I mean, you've seen previews for it. Anne Hathaway, Ewan McGregor.
I haven't seen the previews, but I've heard of it. Here we go, the balance. Okay, balancing it.
So it's, it's this movie where they wake up and their neighborhood is now been transported back in time to when there were dinosaurs. Sure, that's the movie. Sounds like a great premise, but no screenings were allowed, which usually is not a good sign. Well, the first media scores have come in on Rotten Tomatoes. Certified Fresh, 83%. Okay, okay, on how many reviews?
100. 100. It's a decent sample size.
I don't believe this whole Rotten Tomatoes scam anymore.
It's not a scam.
This is, this is the problem with Rotten Tomatoes, right? Rotten Tomatoes looks at all these aggregates, right? So what calls a fresh is if you give it basically the equivalent of 3 out of 5 stars. So if 100 people all said, "Eh, it was alright," it was like a 3 out of 5 stars, guess what the Rotten Tomatoes score is? Fresh. Yeah, 100%. 100%. Yeah. Which is very different from saying everyone thought it was amazing.
I think I've seen exposés on how like part of the marketing plan is we got to get this certified fresh and they game the system that way. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like that. Yeah. But like when you see a really impressive number, like say what you will, people like Spider-Man.
I'm not taking away that people like The new Spider-Man.
But when it first came out, it was like 98% fresh, and my brain is like, wow, only 2% had issues with this movie.
I don't mind so much when you have gaming the system to make it look good because whatever, I'm going to see it. I'll come up with my own conclusion, even if it's a good score. Like, maybe I still don't like it. I don't like it when they do— what is it called when they get like the, the, the review mogging? Is that what that calls?
Review mog? What the hell is that?
Is that how the kids call it? Oh, you nailed it. Review mog? Yeah.
Is it when you, when you purposely said black internet earlier, purposely put blacks?
He was right on that too. Whoa, like on the black internet or something. You purposely put bad scores, not black scores. You purposely put—
hey man, wait a second, what is happening to that?
Am I all right?
Are you all right? You purposely put bad scores for black internet or something.
What's a black score? I don't know.
Hey man, this movie sucks. I don't know you, but when you personally put bad scores, which apparently was what people like were trying to do with The Odyssey, right?
Because it's woke. You talk about the audience scores though. Yes. No one cares. Like, I'll be honest with you, audience—
I do care about the audience. You care about the audience score? Yeah. Yeah.
Audiences are idiots.
No, but I think it's important to know if it— because the media, the media is grading— the media scores are from film critics, people who understand film. All this was great directing and great lighting, great video editing. That doesn't necessarily make the audience not like a movie. There could be a movie that it doesn't necessarily have itself, but man, like, this was really entertaining. I liked it.
What I would say to you is whenever there is a discrepancy between the media score and the audience score, meaning the audience really liked it and the media didn't— happens all the time. It happens all the time. But that, it is on the money when it's had some time. We talk about going back 10 years ago, a movie that came out 10 years ago, and you look at it, it's like The audience score was this, but the critics hated it. Why is that? And it's just like, yeah, because the critics don't have a sense of humor or whatever. But in the moment, the movie just came out, no, none of these people, they're all idiots. They're all just rushing because, oh, you gotta look, my, my— the review market. Yeah, get out of here, man. I don't listen to no audience score.
All right, End of Oak Street. So End of Oak Street is Certified Fresh so far. Yeah, well, can you take away a Certified Fresh?
Yeah, things start to dip the more now But more people are going to have access to watching this now that it's out. Forget screenings. You know, people can pay to go watch it that do this for a living.
But why would they have taken it away? Like we were surmising, that's because they don't think it's very good. Why did they take away screenings?
I don't think it's very good because they didn't—
they didn't market it. Yeah, well, that's part of the screenings. Screening, like showing it to people who come out and say, oh my God, what a tour de force. That's part of the marketing.
Yeah, I'm talking about conventional marketing, just like an ad, like, like TV spots. And what—
This is what I'm gonna say. I haven't done any research, but like, who are they owned by? Because then this— Rotten Tomatoes? No, the, the movie, the studio that put the movie out. Who are they owned by? What kind of financial issues are they going through? Are they going through a merge? Like, there's all types of dumb reasons why things don't get, uh, marketed or publicized. The fact that it is an August release date means they had some— like, they didn't hold it.
They don't have a popcorn bucket I can fuck.
Mm, yeah, that is—
that's usually a huge piece of it.
Like, if you don't have a popcorn bucket he can fuck, are you really a big movie?
I mean, at least you want to do the popcorn trick. You gotta, you know, you know about that popcorn trick, right?
Old school. Come on. That, that was the old school trick. It was the old school way. Yep.
Good trick. That's how you get it done, boys. Buttery. Not too much.
What do you use to like put the hole in it?
Yeah, you can just like— okay, yeah, jam a finger up there. Am I asking the wrong questions?
Yeah, it's like, just like you with the giraffe.
Back then people used to carry around keys.
Yeah, just depends on how—
if all of a sudden you hear like a— ah, they're trying to create the space.
No, that's probably after the hole's already been created, that sound.
That's what you say, honey, don't you need to go to the bathroom? You don't want to get up in the middle of the movie. And she gets up, she goes, and that's like, ah, popcorn just flying everywhere.
Read more on the black internet, says.
Yeah, hey man, like on the black internet or something. How does it make you feel as a Dolphins fan, and maybe also as a Miami Hurricanes fan, when you see highlights coming out of Tampa Bay Buccaneers camp of Reuben Baines just dominating Tampa Bay, just working that Bucs offensive line?
I literally saw the clip of him having 3 sacks in practice yesterday as I was as I was listening to a report on the Dolphins and Caden Proctor getting worked against the Commanders. It's like, it's like they were happening at the same exact time. Chris, Caden Proctor worked at first practice versus the Commanders. Okay, that makes me feel like shit. How did Reuben Bain do? Oh, 3 sacks against the Jets.
I've mentioned Chris to a lot of my friends that also support the Dolphins. I'm like, Chris Cody says he's watching the Dolphins through one prism this year. He hopes for the best with the quarterback and all that, but like the main thing is not wins and losses because he's tempered his expectations appropriately, is how does Proctor do compared to Ruben Bain? Not a good start.
That's more interesting to you than Malik Willis?
Yeah, for me Malik Willis, like the ceiling and floor is pretty close there. I think like he's gonna be somewhere in the middle as a quarterback, and it's just— you could have taken Ruben Bain, the local Miami guy. The rebuild! Get the D! I get it, offensive line is the most important thing, but what's the next most important thing? Defensive line! I don't know, I just— it's just a bad taste in my mouth to start the season with Reuben Bain looking the way he does.
I'm not even looking at it from the prism of Bain versus Proctor because I think that could be a little bit unfair right now because adjusting from playing offensive line at a different position offensive line, playing offensive line in college to playing offensive line in the pros That's a massive adjustment, all right? But I can look at it solely from the Reuben Bain prism because I know this guy's gonna be awesome. Like, it doesn't— I think we had this conversation when Reuben Bain was drafted. Even if Caden Proctor is really good, right, I still hate the pick because I know Reuben Bain is going to be really good.
It's so obvious, and maybe we're too close to it down here in Miami. I just can't remember a guy where it's just so bleeping obvious that he's going to be at least really good. Like, maybe he's not an all-time great, but he's going to be an above-average player, no doubt.
And we knew it from the moment he took that hat off the shelf, the way he took the hat off the shelf, snatched it, right?
Snatched that.
I remember that Godzilla energy. They wanted everyone—
well, in more ways than one.
Well, he just feeds off of any kind of negative energy.
Also has short arms though, right? Yeah, that's what I said, more ways than one. But yeah, but like, you're supposed to get the hat and pose it. Photo mug, right? Good job. He didn't do that. He literally in one go, right? I remember this, right? Like, he never even breaks stride. Just snatched it and give me that thing. He don't give a shit how he looks, man.
He don't care. He'll play football.
This is going to be one of those guys that, like, circles Miami on the— I mean, they're not— they're not playing this year, but at some point they're going to play.
And he's like, he's going to circle everybody that pass. But he's—
well, but this one, this is the one. You can say everyone that passes, this is the one.
I'm sure he's a little pissed at Baltimore too, which did something similar. I know there was a heated debate internally in Baltimore for, for Bain, but yeah, Bain's going to be a monster. And I've talked to some people at Canes camp that are privy to some information from going to Tampa Bay camp. Well, it's like it's way better than what the videos show. This guy, they know.
Oh, it's even— this is downplaying it.
No, video doesn't even do it justice. They—
now, he may be just whooping up on a bad offensive lineman over there, but Reuben Bain, every practice is going out there dominating like he did at Greentree.
Doesn't even matter if it's going up against a bad offensive line. Like, it's an NFL offensive line. Correct.
And in the NFL, you're going to run up against bad offensive lines. And you expect your first-round draft pick defensive end pass rusher to do what he's doing.
NFL practice is kind of dumb.
Why do you say that?
I was watching Hard Knocks last night. And Derek Hall, who's a tremendous linebacker, got in trouble— Stay away from that quarterback. Yeah, he got in trouble with Coach McDonald Because he didn't even touch the dude, but he got too close. They were like, "You're getting too close." And then they did it again. "That's twice. Get at him. Get him out of the field." I'm like, "I'm sorry for being awesome at my job. Maybe yell at the guy whose job it is to stop me." Attention to detail.
If you get that close now during practice, you'll get too close during the game. That'll be 15-yard penalty. No!
That's McDonnell with a chance on the Hard Knocks cameras to be like, "Hey, just in case I run this practice." Yeah.
Oh, he did. He said that, like, verbatim. He said— He said, "Too bad for you, I'm running this practice." And I was like, "All right, man, that's enough." But no, Tony, it wasn't that he was gonna, like, do something illegal. It was literally he's just too good at his job. But he didn't touch the quarterback. I don't like the idea of, like, shaming a guy for doing his job in practice. Why are we practicing? That guy needs practice too, right? The blocker? He gotta practice. If I hit the guy, now you can yell at me. Well, because I got too close.
There's no version of that in NBA practices of stay away from LeBron type stuff. Like, don't foul the heart— our star too hard in practice. Yes, don't foul him.
Absolutely. Like, well, yo, what are you doing? That's some money right there. That's the whole season.
Yeah. Don't do something that no one wants you to do. Right. But in football, the defense would really like you to hit the quarterback. That is a good thing.
But he didn't hit him. Yeah.
No, I get it.
You see what I'm saying? It's like it would be— you know what it'd be like if we said Yeah, don't foul LeBron. And the guy went, ah, psych, right?
You would think in training camp you'd want him to get as close as possible without him.
I think that's what they want.
That's, that's exactly what he did. Yeah, too bad he's too good at his job.
Hard Knocks is good so far. I haven't watched yet.
Episode 1, I was like, okay, I'm willing to make—
that was kind of dry.
It's not necessarily him. Obviously a colorful coach, Rex Ryan, John Gruden, a colorful coach can really bring a lot out of it, but it's not necessarily him. It's just I don't think they have any storylines. It's a bad sign where, like, far and away the most electric person who's been on the screen is Marshawn Lynch.
And I was like, oh, he's visiting.
He shows up. Yeah, as a Madden grader. You know this? You know about the Madden graders?
I could figure it out.
It's basically EA Sports sends these representatives all across the league and they're supposed to adjust the ratings for the players. There's an actual person who comes on site.
Oh, because they could do it in— see, like, you can adjust it in the game middle, like, like it can get adjusted.
Yeah, I mean, at the beginning of the year they do this and the guys are like, okay, he's a 98 on this or whatever, right? So Marshawn Lynch shows up and he's like— it's like a one-man band of like just comedy and like one— well, he's, he's super likable. He is super likable, but it's just like, I felt like, you know what it's like whenever you watch a TV show and it's a spin-off And they're like, oh, the ratings are sagging. Let's get the original star from the other show to show up. Like, oh, that's so-and-so. I remember you. Like, you're doing a little artificial kind of injection just to get it going. Dan Levitar.
I don't think it's strange for me, but like— Mike Ryan. Oh boy. This is the Dan Levitar Show.
There were a couple of things that I found interesting.
All right. What do you got?
Interesting. So I don't know if you know about this. The Detroit Lions, they, they recently had to release Terry and Arnold. Okay.
You know about this story? There's— he's involved in something.
Terry and Arnold, a very big something. He was— he was at Airbnb. He got robbed a few hours later.
He was staying in Airbnb. Yeah. I told you, I don't do Airbnbs.
You know that about me. Well, he says I don't do Airbnbs. But lost a bunch of stuff, jewelry, money, etc.
Never happened. Stole stuff from an Airbnb that he was staying, that he was staying at.
Like, he thought it was a setup, so then he got his lick back. Well, he was told it was a setup and that these are the people responsible, and so they went and they allegedly pistol-whipped the people responsible. Come to find out, they were not the people responsible. And so it was worse than pistol-whipped, by the way. It's like they, they abducted. It was kidnapping. Yeah. So now he's facing multiple counts of kidnapping and assault, of which carry up to a life sentence. He's facing life in prison, right? He's got all sorts of travel restrictions, whatever. Lions are like, we don't want this problem. They waive him. This episode of Hard Knocks is the Seahawks talking about, should we bring him in? And I'm like, oh shit, like, this is, this is outside of the usual Hard Knocks That's some real, like, info here.
That's some— not just real info. Well, we used to get that with Hard Knocks, and however many years ago, the teams began to— like, isn't it a new rule now where they don't have the cameras in the room when they're cutting players anymore, right? Is that a rule or they just don't? That's a thing that they don't do anymore.
They don't show you it live. That's the PA's fault. I bet it's the PA's fault because we love it and the team is like, yeah, we cut him. Love it.
I mean, Vontae Grant wants to call his grandma. You know, Holofcyn, Lincoln, McRae.
But to this point, like, we've never had a truly controversial thing that, by the way, wasn't a controversy that happened to them, right? It's one thing if Teron Arnold had been on their team and this happened. Okay, we get the little Hard Knocks. Okay, how do we PR crisis management this, right? In this case, it's a problem somewhere else. And you see their GM and their head coach and basically them sitting around talking about like, is it worth it? We owe it to ourselves to give us every opportunity. And this guy is in at the end of the episode. They fly him in for a workout. They show him working out by himself in the practice field. But I'm like, oh, they're really going through with this. This is kind of crazy.
All right, so that sounds interesting.
That was interesting, but it was like literally they just kind of mentioned it and then at the end they're like, oh, they're actually—
Do we have any fun characters otherwise on the team yet? I saw the first episode.
The fullback, they're trying to make him a thing. The guy that the GOAT pees on. Oh yeah. He's there for Brady Russell, I think his name is.
Anything with JSN? Tom Brady's peeing on somebody? Yeah. No JSN stuff?
JSN, there is, but he's not really a big person.
Yeah. So there's this one scene with him and the wide receivers coach, and he's like, we got to get on the same page. And he said, I just told these people we never argue. And Jason's like, what are you talking about? We argue all the time. Like, yes, but I told them we never argue. That was funny. I guess the wide receivers coach is— he's a bit of a character. Running backs coach was a funny guy. He's like, this is how you run the ball. A little too much this. Ah, yeah.
I mean, he's a portly fellow.
It just— I'll tell you the other thing they do, and it made me think, oh yeah, football players really are different from the rest of us. This whole shadowboxing thing. Did you watch the shadowboxing thing, Chris?
I saw that. I haven't watched, actually. I saw that on social. I, I don't get it.
I, I think they, they have this thing where it's like, oh, it's— they called it rock-paper-scissors on steroids. And it's like, they go, ah, and like, if I go like this, you have to either duck out of the way. If you don't, if you guess wrong and you guess in the direction of my shadowbox, that's a point. I get it. 3 in a row. I win. But the whole time, all it looks like, the coach is like, good rep, good, good. And they're, they're watching this. The entire team is in an auditorium watching this. They're like, oh! I'm like, what happened? All that song goes, it looks like a Michael Jackson video. I don't like it. I don't like it either. But that's why we're not football players. I feel like if we were football players, we'd be so in. We're like, oh, that's so cool. I wish they did that at our camp. That's what I think football players think like. They're like, This is the coolest thing ever. Meanwhile, us non-football players like, you guys are morons.
Can I show you something? Show me something. So full disclosure. Disclosure Day? No, no, no. Oh, that's Disclosure Day. I'm doing full disclosure. A couple of days— for the last couple days, Greg Cody's been in studio with us. Yes. And yesterday we played another clip of AEW wrestling. Where we believe they must have a Le Batard Show fan, or maybe just a Greg Cody Show fan, who is injecting Greg Cody's catchphrases. Yeah, into their programming.
I heard the bit. I, I don't agree.
Okay, that's fine. Well, let me play again for you real quick from yesterday. This is, this is the second time that this has happened, or at least that we, we've played the video. This is from yesterday where we believe AEW programming is using Greg Cody catchphrases. Give this a listen. I mean, Juice Robinson versus Clark Connors. Who won? Who? The Guns versus the Dogs. Who won? Who? And in a double chain match, who took Juice and JR? He, he, he, he. Now, I—
Baja Men can also be upset.
That's what I'm thinking. I get Baja Men from that. Who let the dogs out? Well, I—
okay, but he did it with the inflection. Who won?
He's building. All right, I'm full disclosure.
Like I said, not disclosure day, but full disclosure. Okay. I went into this yesterday ready to poo-poo it and tell you, Greg, no one, no one cares where you got your videos. No one is using them on AEW. Like, don't be stupid. And, and I heard that. Yes. And like, I I'm having a hard time denying it. And now, now I had one of our listeners send me another couple of clips. Another couple of clips. I'm gonna play the first one here for you, but both of these clips are from the same segment, all right? Don't pay as much attention to, you know, what's actually happening in the video. Like, who the hell can explain but pay more attention to the possible use of the Greg Cody catchphrase. What'd you learn, huh? What'd you learn, huh? What'd you learn, huh? So over and over they're saying, what'd you learn? What'd you learn?
What'd you learn? That's a common phrase. Still keep it ethical.
But we got to put it together with the other examples as well, don't we?
Catch is catch can a few weeks ago. Who won? Everyone says catch is catch can.
No, and— What? No, and they ended the catch-as-catch-can segment with "you never know." You never know sometimes!
Stop it.
See, Ameen is playing the role that I thought I was going to play. What role? And— of being indignant that it's just— it's not a thing.
I think you guys are just navel gazers. You just think everything is about you around here.
Alright, well, play the next one.
Alright, so this is in the same clip again. We're rolling now, huh?
Are you kidding me? We're rolling.
No, though, it's not just we're rolling now. We're rolling now, huh?
I mean, it's, it's undeniable. You know what's funny?
At first, I was like, oh, that is kind of like Greg. But then he came back and it's like, oh, he just said, he just said, come on, man.
It's undeniable. There's something, there's something happening.
All in the same segment. What'd you learn? We're rolling now, huh?
You guys have the wrestler or the writers?
Well, it hasn't always been the same wrestler. Got it. So I think that in the creative room, there's a Greg Cody superfan. We're rolling now, huh?
Well, this is what I would say. If there is indeed a mole in the writing room, you gotta do one thing. You gotta take the catchphrase that Cody came up with that Zazz somehow tried to claim later on. Alright. And have one of them say that. If that happens, then I'll believe it.
Hey, that's what I'm talking about.
Yeah, if they say that one.
That's what I'm talking about!
No, that would be— we'd know that that's not a Greg Cody phrase.
Yeah. They say it, "Hey, that's what I'm talking about!" Then I believe it.
That's what I'm talking about!
"He's a portly fellow."
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