Transcript of WEMBY VANISHES in Game 4 + What Went Wrong for the Spurs? | Alley Oop 189 New

But y'all jumping— dad, uh, this elderly man walking home with a Spurs jersey on, a little, uh, a Caucasian white brother with some khaki shorts on by itself, bro, setting a hair-on-fire. What's going on, sis?

It's giving January Knicks.

Welcome, welcome, welcome back to the Alley Oop. I am Juju Gotti, joined by my sister Mr. Trista Crick, as always. How you doing, sis?

Juju, I'm baffled.

Yeah, baffled. Bit baffled. The biggest comeback in NBA Finals history. Excuse me, pardon me, greatest comeback in NBA Finals history. Did they come back or did they choke it away? You dig it from the other side.

It takes two to tango, you know. You gotta make shots, you gotta get lucky, you gotta do a lot of things right. And then the other hand, they gotta miss shots and they gotta turn the ball over and they gotta choke the way their life away. You gotta have Wemby missing two free throws, you gotta have the refs not calling the foul, uh, that OG Anunoby had on De'Aaron Fox's wrist. You gotta have De'Aaron Fox deciding—

hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, let's not speed through it because let's just talk about each and every one of those. I know, okay, so what I'll say is this.

It's both.

I'm sorry if my boy say now you do. That was my notes first. Let's get into it. The De'Aaron Fox, the Joker of the game in my opinion. Them boys got highlight tapes of his last minute of mistakes, not even the full game. The last minute of mistakes from De'Aaron Fox. Is De'Aaron Fox ultimately, sadly and unfortunately, the catalyst to this destruction that happened last night? Yeah, him and Wemby.

But Wemby's so good, you almost give him a little bit of grace for those free throws. But you got to keep the same energy when you're up 30 at halftime or whatever, almost 30 at halftime, and you're putting your finger to your head and you're like, bitch, I'm rent-free in this motherfucker. Then you got to keep the killer energy when it's fucking butt-pucker time and you got 2 free throws and you miss them fucking both and you're supposed to be the GOAT. So Yeah, I think it was both. Your Fox has got to go. You can't get paid this much money and be this much of a liability.

Yeah, I think my boy, but he will look good in the, uh, Houston Rockets jersey next year, you dig? I think he from Houston. Fred VanVleet is right there. I think he would fit what the Spurs have going on, maybe just a slight little bit better. NBA champion Fred VanVleet. What you think?

You know what I would do?

Uh-huh.

And, and if you think the championship window is something that you could figure out a way to finesse into, if you're the Spurs, you're like, listen, we have them, why not Kyrie?

Mm, I like that a lot.

Why not Kyrie to San Antonio?

That's amazingly fire. Chef's kiss for sure. As long as they look— I don't care how they make the money work. Look, cafeteria over with, uh, just get done done in here to help us cut some costs because we're gonna pay Kyrie, you dig? I like that a lot. And then you allow Dylan Harper— you don't have to rush him to the fray next year. You can still allow him to come in and learn from a GOAT. 1,000%. I like that move. But speaking of Dylan Harper, the last 7 minutes of the game, bruh, Mitchell did not think that he deserved to be involved in the offense anymore.

By the way, really quick too, it literally— you, you can trade them for one another.

Just— I like it. Let's, let's, let's, let's, let's— that guy, you feel me? Hopefully we ain't saying no cuss words. And they both can stay in Texas, you feel me? Come on now, that— I think that's a great trade, you dig? But like I was saying with Dee Harper, bro, Dylan Harper was killing the entire game, and then down the stretch They lean more on defense. Like, do you think Coach Mitch need to— hey man, loosen the, the, the reins on Dylan, bro, because it's not possible for him not to take no more shots from 7 minutes on down in that course of a game.

I felt like Mitch really just kind of Kenny Atkins in this. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, the amount of timeouts I didn't feel like were used. I felt like he kind of was lackadaisical in terms of when the Knicks were making a run. Like, he didn't take a timeout after the 10-0 run.

Yeah.

And then you got it like a 20-4 run, and then you got like a 32-6 run, and, and you just weren't inspiring. Hey guys, like, we need to get downhill. We need to do all the things that got us that lead. We need to continue to lob the ball to Victor, and they started to do that, and Vic ended up getting fouled like 3, 4 times in a row. Fucking Baraka that joint over and over and over again, right? Leg sweep, uppercut, wembe, lob dunk, wembe, lob dunk. And also, I also felt like, can you just check on OG Anunoby?

Maybe somebody just get a hand on him, at least just, just make sure he's still there where you thought he was and not—

and you gotta foul to give if you're gonna get the loose ball foul, then, then shove the shit out of him for that.

You feel me? And bruh, another bruh, DeFoss fouling, fouling Jose Alvarado. Bro, what was that even for? What is your veteran leadership? Where is your IQ? Because I heard a lot about this IQ and it had me believing, drinking from the fountain of, huh, this brother has some IQ. And I'm seeing nothing but the opposite, bro. We learned this stuff in elementary school, bro. This stuff that he make— time running out, hey, dribble the ball out, bro. Them same 2 you about to get, we can get them same 2 from the line in about 8 seconds.

4 seconds left, just run around, you're fast, grab the ball and just run around the court. Just run and pass, play keep away. You got the lead and you got the seconds on your side. Keith Fox, what are you doing? Why did you foul Jose Alvarado, bruh?

I'm talking about, why in the world would you do that? It's, it's almost got me leaning to the side of, hey man, uh, Thursday Thunder. Do you know Terry Rose? Let me see your phone, uh, DeFox. Let me right now, don't delete nothing. Let me see it. Because what's— I don't understand these boneheaded plays, bro. Like, they literally Boston Celtics themselves right in the head and the foot, bro. Once the shots ain't going in no more, Mitch supposed to call that time out. Hey, bruh, remember Castle, you get your— you get your money in the paint. D. Harper, so do you. Wimby, get your ass in on the block or get a bag. Just— I don't know who the hell you've been hanging around. You was with, uh, Akem Olajuwon, wasn't it? You don't got no— no kind of, um, dream, nothing? You don't want to get in the post at all? That's goofy to me. Very goofy, bro.

I'm disappointed. Like, I just— it feels like they got Cleveland Cavalier'd. I think they have more heart and soul than this. Just get the— get one at the crib. Now it's 3-2. Yeah, you've already beaten them, we'll call it one and a half times, at Madison Square Garden. Do it again and then go home for Game 7. You can do it. You can pull a LeBron, Kyrie, Kevin Love Cavaliers. Or you can pull a Donovan Mitchell, James Harden Cavaliers. The answer is up to you. The journey is in your hands.

Mm-hmm. Because right now, in my opinion, I don't know if you deserve to win. How about that? I think the Knicks deserve to win more, even though their fans are killing people outside of the Garden. I think they might deserve to win a little more. You did, because Julian Champagny on Jalen Brunson in the clutch, my brother. How often is this working? We came in here a couple weeks ago. Every time SGA saw Julian Champagny, it was 2 points, finger licking good. You did what? And why is he on Jalen Brunson in this important-ass time? Get him out of the game. I don't even got— if we got to go Harrison Barnes to get some veteran understanding out here, we need somebody out here with some sense in these moments because none of y'all are acting like y'all got any of it. Like, take the ball to the hole. Them boys was in the bonus. What, what, about 5, 6, 7 minutes left?

Why aren't you going at Jose Alvarado every time? He's already in foul trouble. He has 5 fouls. He's finger licking KFC chicken, deep fried, double deep fried, Jack's from the corner store next to the Mid-K swap meet chicken, bruh.

I'm talking about still jacking threes in the bonus. You in the bonus, go to the hole. And Stephon Castle, maybe if you didn't foul dumbass fouls in the first through third quarter, maybe you can be in the game at the end of the game sometimes. Yeah, yeah. Like, maybe if you want to do the dumbest unnecessary foul, maybe we could use this later.

Neither here nor there though, because I also thought, uh, Juju, yeah, that, um, Karl-Anthony Towns, despite picking up all those boneheaded fouls early on in the game, he had that putback sort of scramble layup. Yeah, that 2 points was really important. And then he tipped that lob with 1.5 seconds that was wide open to Stephon Castle, probably for a layup or a dunk.

Yeah, for sure, 1,000%.

You had the Knicks— I, I do want to take the time to just give props to the Knicks too. I mean, it was inexplicable on the Spurs side, but, but OG Anunoby obviously was so— how would I put this— even-keeled about like, we don't care if we're down 30. I've never seen a team down 30 cool as cucumbers. We'll just walk them down. That's what we do. We, we go down 30. They're like the— they're the, they're the LeBron James of the 2025 Indiana Pacers, you know what I mean? Like, this is like how Tyrese Halliburton wouldn't mind. He would come down and hit these big shots, and it would— Indiana could be down 20, 30, didn't matter. Like, that's the— these Knicks as well, they just walk you down. Yes, OG didn't mind, he talked about it in the press game, but our presser. But then you got Karl-Anthony Towns, who I just mentioned. You've got, uh, Jose Alvarado, who largely balled as well. But, but Jalen Brunson— I put this on social and it's getting dismissed. It's getting, because of nostalgia, dismissed. Is there anyone you've ever seen as clutch in the fourth quarter, in crunch time, as Jalen Brunson?

Nah. I mean, Michael Jordan was pretty fire, but I was a child. I have a euphoric memory of my childhood, so some things I remember looked crazier. And then I see him on the, uh, what's the— the NBA TV Classic Games. I'm like, oh yeah, okay, huh, regular. Look to me as a— I ain't gonna do that, I ain't gonna say regular, but it just, it isn't as euphoric of a memory as I had it in my head. Like, I had made it like this gigantic thing, and it was just MJ doing this, in which I see happen 5, 6 times a game now.

Yeah, I think, um, field goal percentage in the fourth quarter during crunch time, Jalen Brunson. Is shooting like 65%. I think that's just fourth quarter, 65% from the field, 60% from three. I bet you in the last 2 minutes of games he's like 85% from the field. I've never seen any, anything like it. It's, it's truly— because, you know, it's almost— it's like Shea. It's kind of like Shea but not. You just know it's going— you just know it's going in. I don't know how he's gonna get open. I know he's got a great defender on him. It doesn't matter. He's either drawing a foul or it's going in, splash, have a good day at the water park.

Right, right, for sure. Like, we definitely attacked the Spurs, you feel me? And I think that this is a good time because from the other angle, the Knicks won this game, man. The Knicks had to get up and go inside them. That was required, you did. And to me, like you said, for sure, Jalen Brunson gets you there no matter what. But OG Anunoby is, to me, now, currently, right now, the Finals MVP. Jalen Brunson, allow him to operate at the top. 101. Brunson gets it, fires up a 3. Shot no good. The tip, it's gone, it's gone, it's gone! With 1.2 remaining, Knicks take the lead. OG Anunoby, and it's 107-106. Cat had for a little while, I get it. And like you say, Jalen, he's so consistent that we kind of expected out of him at this point. He's so clutch, we kind of expect that. But I got OG Anunoby as my Finals MVP right now, as well as Jalen Brunson is the best Knick ever. I'm gonna give him that. He's the best Knick basketball player ever. But OG Anunoby, that's the greatest New York Knick ever right now. If the Knicks get this championship It's gonna be a statue outside of the arena with that tip because that wasn't no regular tip.

No, it was not.

That was far as hell. He was in the skylight. Damn, he had a jet pack on, tipped it with English on it. He did like he was playing pool. Like, bruh, what you think? What do you think? Number one, OG can get the, uh, Finals MVP. And do you think that he's the greatest Knick ever if they get it done?

I don't even know who you give it to because they've all had those huge, like, life-altering, jaw-dropping, super impactful moments. Like, you've got a case for KAT still. Game 1, Game 2, Game 4, you still have that case. You still have that case from the tip and that lay. You got that huge moment, OG, which takes the lead. And like, and OG had 32-something, 33 points in that game. You still have though Jalen Brunson going crazy in the fourth quarter again. So those three I feel like are neck and neck a little bit. I wouldn't mind if any one of them got it. I agree, right now OG's got the like a little bit of the leg up. That's the craziest tip-in I've ever seen, right, bruh?

It looked like the craziest, uh, tip-in that, uh, De'Aaron Fox ever seen too, because he ain't know what though. He didn't know what the hell was going on. You see, I'm allowing De'Aaron Fox to get me upset, not because I'm a Spurs fan, not because I want Spurs to win. It's because I'm a basketball fan. This is not basketball at the end of that game when I was watching from the Spurs. Damn near the Knicks either, because they had some blunders too. Josh Hart, you, my brother, are the luckiest man in America right now. That layup, boy. Patrick Ewing, who? That would have lived on in New York infamy forever.

Josh Hart is the Steph Curry of De'Aaron Foxes, right?

He got a damn monkey paw.

If it wasn't for this one moment, we would be killing you right now, crushing you right now, bruh. And then missing those free throws really like changed the game as well. So yeah, Josh Hart should get a lot more heat. He had like 3 mistakes in a row. Yeah, bruh.

Didn't block out either. Not Josh, not Mr. Rebound. I know you ain't allowing that to go down. And Dee Fox is goofy.

That was probably the craziest game I've ever seen in my life.

Yeah. At a certain point I was like, the Knicks gonna win. In my head I was just like, bruh, it was like 20, maybe 2 or some shit. But I was like, ugh, they keep shooting 3. I done saw these Celtics do this over and over again. The same way the Celtics lose was exactly what happened last night.

3, die by the 3.

And it's so crazy when you got Dylan Harper, when you got Stephon Castle, when you got Victor Wembenyama, even Dev, Dev Vassell, he can slash and he'll dunk on your ass. I feel like, bro, why are you guys so comfy shooting threes, man?

That's Mitch. That's fucking Mitch for you. You gotta call a timeout and say, listen, we're, we're getting paint touches before a single 3. Don't— the next person that shoots a 3 without getting in the paint is sitting down near me.

Mm-hmm.

Downhill only, downhill only. They're in the— we're in the bonus.

Mm-hmm. But I'm talking about—

just insane, just insane. But you're right, I was, I was watching with a friend of mine and they were on their laptop. Yeah, game was at 19 points, 19-point lead, and it was like the, like, maybe 2 minutes left in the third. And I go, you need to put your goddamn laptop down. I think the Knicks are gonna win this game. And then they, uh, Spurs hit a shot. It was like 22-23. And I'm like, no, no, no, I've seen 22 with 7 minutes left. We have 2 minutes left in the third quarter and a whole other 12 minutes. The Knicks are about to win this game. The Spurs are tomfooling around.

And as much as credit we give Wemby, brother, P, you— I don't know who you were in the second half. I'm— matter of fact, that's you. That's— I'm the same way. I can give you the praise, bro. You was ass in that second half. Your, like, skill level to me, I thought was a little better than that, bro. Do you even have an in and out?

To be honest, Juju, I think Wemby's got conditioning issues. Okay, because like, look at him in the first quarter. My best bet that I gave out on NBC was Spurs first quarter alternate -6.5, which was the highest I could go. Like, that was +300 easy. Yeah, but I wanted to go like 10, right? They had one— Game 1's first quarter by 8, Game 2's first quarter by 9, Game 3's first quarter by 11. And what you see from Wemby are these phenomenal first quarters. The Spurs just feel like they've got so much juice. Everything goes right for them early on in the game, and it's like they just use all their adrenaline and their athleticism and their energy up. They don't— they don't know how to control themselves.

Yeah, man, it's sad. It's goofy, but they're a young team. This was expected, some type of growing pains at some point during the playoffs. Unfortunately, it reared its ugly head during the finals. Can you just explain how that thing fell apart in the fourth quarter? I think it began before that. Third row on the left. I can't really explain it right now. I don't know. I think it's just, I mean, execution, greediness of some sort. We clearly weren't the most hungry in the second half.

I hit up Amin. I don't know if you hit up Amin, but it dawned on me like at the end of that game that he was in the building. For real. And I said, Steph Castle probably got fouled on that last second shot. And he said, basketball gods don't bail out chokers.

Oh. Call the foul, right? The guy— see, salute to my brother, I mean salute, man. He's so poetic about the game of basketball and we love it. He's been doing it for so long. But at the end of the day, bro, some of this stuff ain't— it ain't Chinese checkers, it's arithmetic. It's checkers, it's the jump over the king me checkers. If you see a foul, ref, call the foul, bro.

It was a foul and it was a foul actually for De'Aaron Fox. Like, he went up and I saw I saw OG's wrist around his wrist like they were, right, right, like they were playing kung fu.

It's like this, it's like I understand both sides of that. It's like, yes, he don't deserve this foul, bro. Look at his goofy ass about to shoot the damn ball with what, 10 seconds, bro?

How do you do that? Did you see him defend it?

Yeah, that's what make it worse, bro. I need to look— if you know De'Aaron Fox right now And if you are around him and you can see him, take his phone. Tim, don't look at this. Don't, don't look at this phone. He got a— he got a wife, he got a kid. Hey, look, I know they got him. I know he got a good support system, and I'm pretty sure that max contract do a good job in covering up some of the sting around this. But at the same time, let's pray for our brother De'Aaron Fox's mental health over these next couple days, because if they go out like this and this is the last thing tasting his mouth for the whole summer. I don't see it.

I'm gonna tell you whose mouth you don't want it to be in— R.C.

Buford's.

Um, Juju, let's talk about Game 5. Yeah, back in San Antonio. What do you think happens?

I feel like I saw a Knicks-Cavs situation happen last night. Because that's one of them victories that you're gonna wake up in the middle of the night thinking you were still in the game and it's over. I'm, I'm taking the Knicks, bruh. Knicks in 5, over with. Or Knicks in 6, over with. What— either way, the Knicks gonna win. Like, I don't care. I, I, yeah, I've seen enough from Mitch, uh, to see that, like, bruh, he's not deserving of a lot of the praise that we heap on my boy. Salute. Matter of fact, he got to the championship, so I'm not gonna do that to him. But I'm watching this game knowing that somewhere on Earth, Greg Popovich is also watching this game.

So why don't Greg Popovich travel with them?

You feel me? So that's what I'm saying. I'm watching it through my eyes and Greg. I don't want to look at nothing. I don't even look at Greg too long because my boy might— look, let's keep Greg alive, man. We gotta play better than this, man. We can't be giving Greg stuff like this to worry about at this big age. You feel me? But who you got in this game? What you think gonna happen?

Well, Vegas has the Spurs winning by 5.5. I'm feeling like no, feeling like no. I think it's going to be close regardless. You know, the biggest mistake I made in Game 4 was that they were down, you know, 29 or whatever, and I was looking at the live numbers and I was like, Trista, if the Knicks ever go down, you know they never get blown out. But it was like the, the live spread was like 12.5 and they were down 22, and I was like, ugh, that's just like no value, you know? That's just no value. I think I'm gonna take the Knicks as well. I think I'm gonna go ahead and take the first quarter Spurs spread again.

Yeah, I like that for sure. Spurs gonna be up 17 points in 3 minutes within the game.

Whatever I can get, I'm gonna take.

Right.

You can't even get the NBA championship odds for this.

Nah, yeah, it ain't up here.

Take the Spurs right now, right?

Right. I saw it because we so early. Yeah, I think they, they trying to judge these vibes of today and see how people looking for something.

Plus, 400 is tough.

It's tough as hell.

It's tough, you know.

Hell yeah, bro.

Can't wait till next game. Can't wait, can't wait to that. This is about as good as the value is gonna get, right? I don't know, man. It's— I just want to see a long series. I want to see a good series. I, I feel like this is one of those things that— I mean, it's got to be gonna probably the most heartbreaking loss of, of an athlete's— like, any, any athlete's life is that ever.

So, and you got to realize and remember too, if you're a Spur right now, that in God's green 2026, Jose Alvarado made some big shots in the clutch.

That's the same to Mike Brown. Mike Brown, right?

Because Mike Brown— thank you, sis, thank you. Yes, because that's what he, he believed in his player. He said, hey, oh, Mikal, you tripping, come sit by me.

He barely played, didn't he?

Exactly. Who else out here tripping? I got somebody that's gonna— that want to play over here. Coach, the Mitch, you gotta do that over there. I ain't giving Mitch no more, no more pointers, bro. Before we get up out of here, Knicks fans, my brothers, my sisters, my non-binaries, come on now. This is basketball. This ain't no down— we ain't in Chile, we ain't in Honduras, we ain't overseas in England at the pub where we got to beat up the other kid, people with other kicks on now. This is America. These folks going into the game, I would see if you was beating up folks who just out there. Yeah, FNX fans, come on, you want some of this? You want some of this? Yeah, beat his ass. You feel me? But y'all jumping dad, uh, elderly man walking home with a Spurs jersey on, a little, uh, a Caucasian white brother with some khaki shorts on by itself. Bro, setting a hair on fire. What's going on, sis?

It's giving January 6th.

And unfortunately, hey, and, and you know what, we like to call out whenever some racist stuff going on, we call it out. But it's a lot of brothers and sisters out there engaged in all this. This ain't even all them, y'all. Come on, it's us, man. Like, come on, y'all.

It's true, but it's like everybody can get it. It's like, I don't care what you're wearing, I don't care if you're 7, I don't care if you're 70. It's giving like Mark Wahlberg almost killing that man in Boston, right, bro?

We don't need that, bro. We want people to love the game of basketball. We want people to enjoy themselves and go home, especially when you winning. You are 3-1, busting Wemby across the head with an egg last night.

Like, bro, I kind of like thought that was funny, but we'll talk about it again next episode. I want to get your thought on this new heel turn, which is Wemby. Wemby has one more flagrant one and he gets suspended. I'm gonna use that flagrant if I'm Wemby in that game because we're probably going home anyway. Make Karl-Anthony Towns or whoever feel it. You won't get ejected, but you'll get suspended the next one. I probably wouldn't. But I do like this, this villain version of Wemby versus the, the like fake angel who's actually the villain. I'm happy that he's 10 toes down on it now. Like, I actually have changed my whole opinion of Wemby.

Salute. See, that's, that's good accountability and good growth, you dig? Knicks fans, yeah, you can't even get in the game out there fighting. Don't even care about you, boy. They don't care about you. That's gonna do it though for another episode of the Alley Hoop, man. Thank y'all as always for pulling up, man. Without y'all, who the hell are we? Come on. And always thanks as always to Miss Rebecca and our brother Dylan. Man, any last words on the way out, sis?

Uh, go Spurs! Get it together, otherwise we're all sick to our stomach that basketball is ending until October. Well, or until July for the Summer League.

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