Transcript of MUMMMM-RAAAAAAA | Hour 2 New

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Let's go, Sid.

Gentlemen, gentlemen, too kind as always. What a day. What a weekend we got in store here. This is going to be something else.

What is your experience? Because you're based out of Toronto, Sid. Sid Cicero Show, you can catch YouTube channel, wherever you get your podcasts also. Now, the Knights are a game away from being eliminated, but like, how are you handling the whole Mitch Marner thing?

Better if he loses. I'll be honest with you. Like, that's going to be a tough one for Toronto. That's going to be a tough one. Now, this series has been so messed up. I'm not willing to throw away the Knights' chances going into Sunday night. But there is, there's a familiarity now with the Knights that we've seen in Toronto a lot in the Mitch Marner years. And it's one question that was always asked at the end of a series. Here's the question. What's up with the power play? Mitch Marner power plays go quiet a little the longer the series goes. That has kind of been the deciding factor. Goaltending aside, the power play for the Golden Knights has been awful and it's not getting any better. So I do find it interesting how Mitch Marner, who nearly had a 4-goal night last Saturday in Game 3, was talked about as the surefire MVP of the entire postseason. And a couple of nights later it's like, well, it has to be Jordan Staal. Like it's been one of the, it's been one of the better Cup Finals I've seen in a long time. And honestly, within the hockey world, what this will mean in terms of the greater analytics discussion is gonna be staggering.

'Cause we've been laughing at Eric Tolsky and Carolina for about 8 years. This will flip the script on all of that. With that said, it's been fascinating. And as someone in Toronto watching Mitch Marner do that, it's been, really fascinating.

Dan isn't here today, but I'll, I'll ask you a point that Dan has made recently. You got Vegas and Carolina. Before this year, the previous 6 Stanley Cups were represented by either Tampa Bay or Florida. Like, is Canada as enraged about that? You know, the Sunbelt teams, the non-traditional market teams, are they enraged at a Stanley Cup Final like this one?

No, we're kind of used to it at this point. Listen, I think the whole league shouldn't be enraged with Vegas because they've come in and just slapped everyone in the face for the last 9 years and taught people how to do it properly. To hell with the picks, to hell with the prospects. We're going to bring in players that can help us now. No one has a right to be mad at Vegas. They've had more balls than anyone in terms of like— and I don't want to make this room unhappy with me. But there is a feeling sometimes in Canada when you take the cup to the Elbow Room and there's like 9 people there. That does make us feel a certain way. I don't mean that as a, as a diss, a Miami shot. I'm just saying as self-conscious hockey folk, that makes us feel a certain way.

How do we feel about what Sid just said, guys? How do we— are we okay?

I mean, as somebody who got hammered at the Elbow Room the day after the last championship, I guarantee you there were dozens of people there, not 9.

The most offensive one by far. Whatever happened in South Beach is not comparable to when Anaheim won it. Everybody for every major championship turns out in droves, hundreds of thousands of people, except when the Anaheim Ducks won the Stanley Cup. They had to bribe people to show up at Disney with, uh, with the Governator appearance and free wieners and Coke. That's how— not Coca-Cola, Coca-Cola, to be clear. That's how they got them there. And still not very many people turned out. That was the all-time disgrace. But Sid, it's better for Carolina, for the NHL in terms of credibility of regular season and otherwise. It's a bad look if Tortorello shows up on the eve of the playoffs and the Knights end up winning the Stanley Cup.

No? It's, uh, I think it's bad for like every head coach in the league. I think it's a terrible look. Because right now in the NHL, what do you do if you're in a bind? Just fire the guy with 8 games left or 5 games left. Like that's, hmm, look, and I know there's a lot going on right now. This Mike Babcock story in Edmonton in terms of what happened in Columbus a few years ago, it's been a circus with the coaches. Vegas won't let Bruce Cassidy interview with the Oilers or anyone else. They have him on a non-compete. It has been the Wild West. I will say this, I don't think Vegas are gonna pull this out the way the goaltending is now going in Carolina's favor. But if Vegas come back and win, yeah, ownership will take notice. All 31 other teams around the NHL will go, that seemed to work. So listen, we had two coaches get fired like with games to go last year was Patrick Roy and Bruce Cassidy. Patrick Roy on Long Island. So yeah, if I'm a coach, I don't like this at all. If I'm an owner, I like that I can pull that lever and potentially get a couple of rounds out of it in the postseason.

Sid, you're gonna help us out here. We are, uh, we're all into the World Cup. Some of us know a whole lot more than, than others do about the World Cup. It started yesterday. We have a couple of games today. So Sid, you are going to help us with today's edition of Big Game or Not a Big Game.

Howdy folks, welcome to Big Game or A Big Game with Jonathan Zaslow.

Oh yes! All right, everybody calm down. Big Game or Not a Big Game World Cup today, 3:00 PM Eastern time this afternoon. Canada versus Bosnia. How do I say the other country, Mike?

Yeah, they got to play two of them. Forgot about that.

Erzgevina.

Erzgevina. Sid, Canada versus Bosnia-Herzegovina, big game or not a big game?

Sorry, I hadn't heard the opening yet. I need a moment on the opening. Well played. Uh, big game. How's it not a big game? Are we not a co-host like my brethren down in Miami? We are technically a co-host, a tri-host if you will. This is the biggest sporting event on Canadian soil Since the Olympic hockey game from 2010 in Vancouver. So of course it's a big game. We should end because we're beating two countries. We should go 2-0 if we win this thing tonight. All right. No question about it.

All right.

I'm offended by the questions.

All right.

Take it easy. All right.

Take it easy.

Settle down. All right. Big game and not a big game. 9 PM Eastern time tonight. Live, not from SoFi Stadium, Los Angeles Stadium. All right. Los Angeles Stadium tonight. The United States of America against Paraguay. Sid Sechero, big game or not big game?

First off, the naming of these stadiums, just like Toronto Stadium up here and LA Stadium, it's like the early video games where they had no rights and you just kind of named things things. Be better, FIFA. Find a sponsor. Huge game at SoFi/Los Angeles Stadium tonight. Huge game. I'm stunned. I don't want to say this. I am very surprised how good Mauricio Pochettino's teams looked in those final friendlies going into this tournament. I know the Germany game wasn't a win, but there was some skill on display. And if Christian Pulisic can wake up and continue at this pace, which he did not do, which cost AC Milan a Champions League spot this year in Italy. Um, I, I think, I think the States have round of 16 written all over them. It's not the toughest group. Big game. And, uh, I'm fascinated tonight. Two big games.

Oh yeah, how about that? Two for two in big games for the World Cup today.

Well, let's revisit that first big game. Canada, a lot of expectation last World Cup and a lot of big talk. They try to play teams, they try to hang with them, take the fight to them, and it didn't didn't exactly work out. A lot, a lot of expectation now that they are a Tri-host. This is a sneaky tough opponent. I know I'm part Italian. What are you expecting from tonight?

Uh, well, the, the thing that has my anxiety, uh, running right now is a story that broke this week from the Bosnia and Herzegovina consulate in Ottawa, and they are claiming— now again, the Toronto Stadium is, I believe, the smallest of all 16 venues in the World Cup with like 45,000. And they had to bring in like a lot of fake stands for that. They are claiming in Bosnia there's going to be 30,000 Bosnian supporters to this game today.

Wow. Isn't capacity— capacity is under 50K there.

45,000. How? Like, it's got some people nervous here. How is that possible? I don't know. Now, listen, you guys see the secondary prices the way we see them. It's insane. And that crowd in Guadalajara last night for, for South Korea and Czechia was not good at all. So like, this could be an early storyline on multiple fronts. Again, I'm going to try and stay positive on this. If that building down by the lakeshore in Toronto is like 70% Bosnian for the game, I'm going to freak out. That's going to be an awful, awful look in terms of the game itself. There's no Alphonso Davies. We did an interview with Alphonso Davies of Bayern Munich a few weeks ago. He told us flat out he was never playing in this game. We ran a clip of the interview last Tuesday. After 2 hours online, they— some folks behind the scenes asked us to take it down because Canada soccer was freaking out at the messaging that badly. They did not want it out this early that Alphonso Davies was not playing in this game. Despite the fact he hasn't played 90 minutes for Bayern Munich since January.

So the, the injury situation with Canada has been concerning. With that said, I don't think Bosnia are world beaters. They got some decent guys. There's no game breakers. Their best player might be their left back from Benfica, Mardetic. I think Canada can get their first point in tournament history today. A win would be amazing. Again, Canada's not in the toughest group either. But there are some sub storylines to this.

What about Herzegovina?

Similar scouting report, says similar scouting report. Yeah, it's not no game breakers. We'll see. We'll see how they play against both teams tonight.

Yes.

All right.

It's an important question. How is Canada like? I feel like it's a little bit muted down here, the World Cup, and that like the games are about to be here in Miami Gardens. Like, I don't know, it doesn't feel like it to me. Like there's going to be games here 10 minutes from my house. How does it feel up there in Canada? Like, does it feel like the World Cup is happening?

I'm glad you said that, because had I not been downtown— we recorded a pod downtown yesterday with Mikolo Ultra around the Fan Fest. So obviously around the Fan Fest, there's a feeling like you'd be— you'd be hard pressed to kind of get that same feeling around town here. It's a strange vibe. It's an exciting vibe. Like today everyone's excited, but it's not like The signage is overwhelming you coming into the city, folks.

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Well, I'm hard to take— I feel bad taking a hard right turn here, but I am curious. We were watching here at the house, me and Jean-Claude Van Damme-esque last night, we're watching a little Hamilton Tiger-Cats v. Blue Bombers from Winnipeg. And once again, the boy just discovered it. He was watching, he said, "The field is bigger!" And we were, you know, going into some detail about the differentiation and the rules, and it led to where it always does for American football fans. How can we without offending you, make the CFL a part of the NFL, and what it ultimately leads to is a minor league. But if you guys would be willing to change your field, imagine— I know it's a, it's a slap in the face given the history of the CFL, but imagine if we could create an environment in which we had relegation, where the 32nd NFL team was dropped to the CFL and the best CFL team jumped up into the NFL. Wouldn't that be better for everyone involved? We can do some UFL if that'll make everybody happy as well. Wouldn't that make pro football even more satisfying in North America?

That's quite a turn. I wasn't expecting the CFL question there. That is quite a turn. I like the CFL question. I'll say this. That's a nonstarter. Here's why it's a nonstarter. Stu Johnston is a guy who just became commissioner of the Canadian Football League. He made some rule changes that you guys might be familiar with. He moved the, the field goal posts to the back of the end zone. It's been at the front of the end zone for my entire lifetime. He moved into the back. Hardcore CFL fans didn't like that. He's making the field narrower. Hardcore CFL fans didn't like that. They're going to 100 yards. It's been 110 yards my whole life.

We're on the way. Yeah, I like this, commish.

Guess who didn't like that? Hardcore CFL fans. That is about as far as you can take it without losing your base. As we all know, in 2026, your base is important. And I do— I don't believe this, this alternate partnership with the NFL would work. But I— but I— it's an interesting idea.

But relegation, that's— to me, that's, that's the brass ring for all of North American sports leagues. That's what we need to steal from, from across.

Dave, I actually have a working theory that we may actually see it in college football if they get this Super League. And that's a cool way to make the regular season matter. Sid, I have a question back to soccer. I know you always got an eye on the Portuguese national team. I like their chances this year. I think Vitinha is one of the best players in the world. He doesn't score all the goals, but if you watch a game, you know the game. You know this guy's a dynamite player. I'm a little worried about Ronaldo messing things up for them. Do you agree with me that you like their chances to win this World Cup?

Um, I'd like them better if everyone else didn't like them as much. Like, I— it makes me nervous how much they're being talked up. Like, they're being talked up like the way Nigeria was being talked up in 1994 in that World Cup when Pelé said, well, Nigeria are going to win the first African World Cup. Now, in terms of what you said about the PSG guys, Vitinha and João Neves and Nuno Mendes, like there's really two nations in this tournament that have players that have won two straight Champions Leagues. It's France and it's Portugal. I like that. As someone who follows the Portuguese national team, I'm a fan of that. The problem is you have an ego at the front of the train that is immovable. Andre the Giant was more movable than this object at the front of Portugal's spear in Cristiano Ronaldo. The ego is unlike anything we've ever seen. It's crazy. Now he's 41. We've been told through the media, look, what's good for the team is what will be done. Ronaldo's not going to go out there and run around huffing and puffing at 41 years old for 90 minutes if it's not working.

That's what we've been told in this tournament, that we were told that 2 years ago in the Euros, 4 years ago in Qatar, they tried to sit him in Qatar. It didn't work out there either. Like Portugal, for some reason, have tripped themselves up often when on paper they've looked like the better team. I'm still trying to figure out how they lost to Morocco 4 years ago in the quarterfinals. I don't know how that happened. But on paper, this, this seems like it's the group I think in the central midfield, they have a Spain vibe back in the day of Xavi and Iniesta. They're not that level, but they're pretty good. And I like their chances. But again, this— they've been their own worst enemy at times. And we'll see.

Sid's going to give you plenty of World Cup coverage. Sid Sushero Show on YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts. Great job, Sid.

Thanks for hanging out with us. On the way out. You got your eyes on a potential fraud?

Oh, there's some fraudulent behavior that might go on in this tournament for sure. Um, I'll give you— how about this? I think Lamine Yamal could be the fraud of the tournament. Oh, most people's favorite young player in the tournament, an incredible player, but he's banged up. He didn't finish the season at Barcelona. Now Barcelona had nothing to play for, but I'm just saying, I am a huge Lamine Yamal guy. There's the fraudulent belt is on the table and it could go to Lamine N'Diouma.

Great job. Thanks, Sid. Appreciate it, man.

Take care, guys.

Uh, we got the hockey returning to Sunday night. Excuse me, Sunday night, Game 6, Vegas and Carolina. Roy, hockey watch-along?

Yeah, we got a hockey watch-along on Sunday for Game 6. The Hockey Show, myself, David Jorick, Rosie, and Ethan will be doing a watch-along and possibly We'll see Carolina lift the Stanley Cup on Sunday night. You can watch it on the Levitar Show YouTube page or the Hockey Show DLS.

I like the commercial they showed last night because, you know, Game 6, obviously the Cup could be won in a Game 6, and it was like, well, we'll see you Sunday, you know, and it was a picture of the Cup because the Stanley Cup's gonna be in the building on set on Sunday night. Do you think the New York Knicks, like, the Knicks fan wants the Knicks to win tomorrow, right? Like It— okay, you love the idea. In a perfect world, you win the NBA Finals at home, but I feel like the Knicks kind of got their championship celebration two nights ago. Like, they could win— if they win the championship in a Game 6 at the Garden, they blow out the Spurs, the celebratory feeling would be muted compared to what happened a few nights ago, right, Dave? Like, they got the big championship in-person moment, so they got it already. So you have to root for them to win tomorrow on the road if you're a Knicks fan, right?

I think you just said it. In fact, it's funny because when you were talking about the Canes fans as the final moments ticked off down there in, uh, in Carolina last night, the fans sort of seized the moment. The, the standing ovation and all of that felt like Next time we see you guys, you're gonna have a cup to hold up over your heads, and go get 'em in Vegas was the vibe there. And if you're smart, if you're a Knickerbockers fan— not that you can actually influence, I don't think, by rooting for it from your couch— that is the result you obviously want to get. You do not want to mess around with the sports gods and root for your team to lose so you can attend the celebration. That's bad form, and that's fraught with, uh, with curses and such.

Guys, I told you I'm going to see Disclosure Day this afternoon, and specifically before Team USA plays. Are you worried, uh, about Disclosure Day? It's not a documentary, Tony.

They're trying to tell us that's very close to what's going to be the truth that's coming out.

So I'm going to see Disclosure Day this afternoon, but let me tell you something. A couple of days ago, I saw the new He-Man movie.

Oh my God, you've mentioned that.

Oh my God, I, I think it's the greatest cartoon-to-movie adaptation ever. I was so worried, I was a huge He-Man fan, of course, I'm a kid of the '80s, all right? I was a huge He-Man fan, I had all the toys, and 40 years ago, 39 to be exact, 40 years ago, Masters of the Universe starring Dolph Lundgren came out in theaters. I saw it, I had the flu, I was 6 years old and I had the flu, didn't matter, I told my dad, we're going to see Masters of the Universe, I won't cough on you, I promise. And we went to go see Masters of the Universe, because I love He-Man. And 40 years later, this movie's out. And I told my son I'm gonna take him. He's 14 years old. He doesn't have a clue about He-Man. He knows nothing. I'm like, you're coming with me, okay? I took him and my 20-year-old cousin is staying with us also this week. He don't know shit about He-Man either. He's Canadian. I don't even know if they have TV there. So I take him and my son, we go see He-Man a couple days ago.

And I was worried about this movie because you look at the trailer I'm like, "Trailer?" I don't know, it looks corny. I don't know if this movie's gonna be any good. I'm worried. I'm worried about this movie. And I see the Rotten Tomatoes scores, and I had friends texting me a few days ago, "Have you seen He-Man yet?" And I'm like, "No, no, I'm going to see it." "You're gonna love it." And the Rotten Tomatoes scores are very high. The reviews are very, very good. And if I could tell you how much I loved this movie, It is so, so good. If you're a child of the '80s like me, if you love He-Man, who was my absolute favorite, you're going to love this movie. And dare I say—

What is this, an ad?

Dare I say, Jared Leto, who's a terrible actor, does terrible films. He's awful. Jared Leto—

They obviously give awards to terrible actors.

He's terrible.

I'm with you though, lately.

Jared Leto, cold streak, is phenomenal as Skeletor. Incredible. He nails it. He's great as Skeletor. Anyway, I love this movie so much. Everything you want, it has. And it got me thinking, all right, I got a top 5 for your asses today. You ready for this?

It's for my ass.

Top 5 for your asses today. I got a top 5. It is top 5 all time 80s cartoon villains. How are they all time if it's just all time? Top 5 all-time '80s cartoon villains. You ready?

So ready, Zazz.

No, all I— we're getting right after.

Yeah, we're workshopping back here a theory that you talk like that because you've hosted shows by yourself for so long that you have stretch. Like, this is just another person. I ask a question and then I answer it.

With this boy. Good point. Number 5, Shredder.

Now you know who did the voice of Shredder?

Who?

Uncle Phil. Oh really? That's cool. All right, love Uncle Phil. Shredder, the big bad from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I mean, he's trying to kill— not only trying to kill the turtles, The Turtles are kids! Like, they're teenagers! They're teenage! He's trying to kill teenagers! Very bad. Number 5 is Shredder. Number 4! Cobra Commander. Oh yeah! G.I. Joe's number one a— He's a terrorist! That's literally the character! He's a terrorist! Obviously, Cobra Commander is gonna be one of the top villains! But he only comes in at number 4. He's very bad though. Terrorism. Number 3: Megatron. Transformers! Come on! Autobots, Decepticons. Megatron is the leader of the Decepticons, and eventually he, he gets even more powers. And he becomes like super Megatron. You don't want to fuck with that guy. Number 2.

So hold on, Zazz, really quick before number 2. So Megatron was the bad guy?

Oh yeah.

So then why did they call Calvin Johnson Megatron instead of Optimus Prime, who was the good guy?

He named himself that. Yeah, I mean, they thought he was a bad guy. I don't know what to tell you, man. Go ask him. What are you asking me?

Megatron's a plane. He's a fighter jet. Yeah, his arch nemesis Optimus Prime is just an 18-wheeler.

That's right. Yeah, that's right. Seems unfair. Number 2, Mumra. You know about Mumra? ThunderCats? Mumra was very scary, and they had movies. You ever see Mumra Lives?

Dave Dameshek, you know about that Mumra?

No, I have never literally heard of Mumra.

What? What?

I've only heard of Shredder.

Momra coming in at number 2.

Say it again, then we'll know about it.

Momra.

Thunder, Thunder, Thundercats.

Momra. And number 1, number 1, Momra. Number 1, Skeletor. Of course Skeletor is number 1. I mean, He-Man's arch nemesis. Who is actually, I think it's He-Man's uncle, all right? Because, you know, he died, he was part of the kingdom, became Skeletor. Skeletor, number one. I told you Jared Leto was an incredible Skeletor. Skeletor's great in the movie, excellent battles. The action scenes are fantastic in this He-Man movie. I love the guy that played He-Man, he's a great He-Man. That's my He-Man, all right?

I need more lists from you. Was there any OLI? Where's Dr. Claw?

No, I told Nah, Doctor— the Specter Gadget was hokey. Doctor— you're not scared of Doctor Who. Hokey? You're not scared of Doctor Who.

He wasn't Mumra.

You're not scared. That's right. So again, to recap: Number 5, Shredder. Number 4, Cobra Commander. Number 3, Megatron. Number 2, Mumra! And number 1, Skeletor.

I'm a fan, Zazz. I want to make that clear in advance. But this is a little bit of a hipster list here. Right? I mean, Mumra? Mumra number 2?

You don't make—

you're talking '80s animated bad guys. ThunderCats! And you don't mention— you don't mention Gargamel? You don't mention—

No one was afraid of Gargamel! Gargamel's nemesis are little 2-inch blue people, and he has a hard time defeating them? Gargamel was a poser.

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That's a Sui nominee right there.

Good. This is the Dan Levatar Show with the Stugatz.

Well, listen, I mean, if you really want to get going here and, and, and get into gargoyles here, some blundering idiots, bad guy in, in Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. But also, what about the Laugh Olympics and the fact that you had the, the, the, the three-way competition? You had Scooby's gang, and then you had Yogi's gang and Captain Caveman and all the heroes, but then The villain, remember the Laugh Olympics? Everybody with me on this, or does that predate everybody in that? I have no idea.

I love the Laugh Olympics because they used to air them during summer vacation, early afternoon on Cartoon Network, and it was an all-star who's who.

That's exactly what it was. It was a blend of everybody you knew. Even Hawkman was there with Dinomutt. Everybody, every man, Genie made it.

Everybody was there. The Hanna-Barbera universe.

Penelope Pitstop.

It was remarkable. Was that the bad guys would win sometimes. That you never— you don't— you still don't see that anymore.

But they would cheat to win too.

Gang.

Yeah, Snidely Whiplash.

It was a powerful lesson for a young person.

Oh, is that— no, is Snidely Whiplash— that's the bad guy from Rocky and Bullwinkle. Dudley Durrett. Yeah, The Adventures of— so who was, uh, Mutley was— belonged to who?

Dastardly Dalton. I think Dick Dastardly.

Was that his name? Was it Dick Dastardly? Yeah, it was Dick Dastardly.

Uncle Dick.

Wow, that was a show. But listen, what was it?

Mumra? Thundercats, Dave. Thundercats.

I didn't— I, I missed Thundercats. I, I tuned out on that. And also, listen, can we just cut to the chase? The greatest villain of them all in movie, animated, or otherwise is Darth Vader.

Can we do—

can we all—

No, but that's all we did. We did all-time 1980s cartoon villains. That's what—

Okay, well, Darth Vader appears in 1980s movies and they spun him off into some animated version of it.

No.

They did. They absolutely turned it into a cartoon. And Vader is— would laugh at Mumra. Would laugh at him. He would scoff at the challenge.

Look, I'm not going to sit here and try and defend Mumra to you, all right? Like, I'm just not a bit like a— I'm not a fan. I don't, I don't root for the villains, so I'm not going to sit here and try and prop up Mumra to you. I'm just telling you he was the second greatest villain all time in the 1980s. I don't know what that sound was.

That's Mutley.

Oh.

By the way, a bit of a correction on the promo we just did for the Hockey Show watch-along. It's only going to be on the Hockey Show YouTube page, the Hockey Show DLS, because on the Levitar YouTube page will be MMA Hangout.

MMA Hangout, UFC Freedom 255 from the White House on Sunday, 8 PM. Can't wait. A lot of exciting fights. Zazz, I do have a top 5 storylines if you want to get ready.

I'm already tailgating.

Yeah, all right, let's do it, man.

Rain, rain, go away. What?

Gonna be windy.

I actually agree with both of those statements. Thank you, Joe.

You know, this is gonna be really unfortunate for those of us that believe we control the weather.

Number 5. Mamra!

Can Captain America Michael Chandler defend America against Mauricio Ruffi and the Brazilians? I don't know. It's probably gonna be tough. Mauricio Ruffi's an absolute dog. Michael Chandler hasn't won in 1,000 years. Number 4. Can Sean O'Malley get back the championship form versus Zahibi, a Canadian who's a good up-and-comer. That's a pic of Sean O'Malley from 27 years ago. He actually looks like AI Sean O'Malley there. I don't know who that is. That might not be Sean O'Malley.

All right, means pictures right there.

I don't— maybe, maybe it means pictures made it finally. Can Josh Hoket— remember, that name is the middle fingers at the UFC Miami fight.

Oh yeah, he can't be allowed to speak at the Lincoln Memorial. Well, tell me we're not letting him do the weigh-in thing.

He's not. He, he spoke at the press conference earlier— or excuse me, last month, but he will not be speaking, uh, later on.

So that guy's a big winner then. I mean, because he was acting wild at the UFC Miami event and now he's on the White House.

Dude, he is the biggest winner of the UFC this year. 100%.

But they realize— what about maybe keep him away from the monument?

What about the robots that used to play the Harlem Globetrotters in the animated series?

No, we don't care about those.

No, you know about that, Vortex?

I mean, I know if those guys went up head to head with Mumra I know who's coming out on top.

Number 2, Ilia Topuria's insane BMF knockout run. He's knocked out all other BMF champions. All of a sudden, Justin Gaethje in his way. He's the two-division champ already, looking to cement his legacy as one of the best mixed martial artists of all time. Justin Gaethje would be another notch on his belt of an insane resume.

Safe to say this is the first time—

you know who is scary?

The BMF—

you know what's scary?

Go ahead, Dave.

The cobra. The cobra that, that fought against— it was like a family of Cobras, maybe, but I think there was one particular Cobra against Ricky Ticky Tavi. Remember that?

I thought you were talking about like, like the, the Cobra, like the scepter that Cobra Commander used to kill Duke in G.I. Joe. That's the Cobra I thought you were talking about.

Like, you killed him, not the Cobra Commander.

Actually, I had the same exact question that Dave had.

Okay, no, it wasn't the same Cobra, it was a different Cobra. Number one, speaking of Cobras, the guy who's who's so good at what he does. Will Alex Pereira become the first-time 3-weight division champion? He's won at middleweight, he's won at light heavyweight, now he's fighting for the interim heavyweight championship against Ciryl Gane. Tom Aspinall had the eye pokes, he's been out, he's the champion. Can Alex Pereira be the first person in UFC or in really mixed martial arts history to get 3 divisions as a champion?

It's crazy, man.

All that coming up 8 PM live from Dead Flamingo on the Lebitard YouTube page. UFC Freedom 250 for the UFC. UFC Freedom 250. It's usually they do like—

good job selling it—

UFC 320 whatever, which is the next one. Conor McGregor, July 9th, International Fight Week 329. But this one's like UFC Freedom 250 because it's like kind of a— sure— play on the—

sure.

Happy birthday.

Yeah. Isn't there a chance like it's gonna be incredibly humid? They're out outdoors fighting. There's a chance of rains, bugs, wind, and there's gonna be lots of lights coming down.

Lights.

Yeah, anything can happen. We don't know what's gonna happen. Do not hope it rains.

Oh, take that back. No, but there's, there's gonna be a canopy over the ring.

Like, no, it's a claw. It's a claw. It's not a canopy.

Oh no, I'm hoping for rain.

Yeah, you know what, I'm hoping for rain then. I think that could be fun.

Absolutely. You think it'd be fun?

Yeah, yeah, I think it'd be fun. I've never seen it. You have to see what it is.

You think it's gonna be absolutely—

you think it's gonna be a t-shirt contest?

You think that's what it's gonna be?

It'd be a barrel of laughs.

You think people are gonna be out there fighting in the ring?

I want this to happen.

You want the Cobra that James is talking about to be out there in the rain?

I want a rain delay during a UFC event.

No, I don't want a rain delay.

I am live on stream.

I don't want this thing to happen.

Like I said, that's too bad.

I don't like it happening.

There's the clock.

Ooh, I wonder what their rain day programming will be.

Well said.

I don't know, but here's the thing. If it rains sideways like it usually does, you know, then it could be an issue. If it rains from just top to bottom—

If it rains, we'll just go inside and do this thing in the Oval.

Come on. That's why we need the ballroom. Can he stay awake? Can he stay awake if there's rain dropping down on him?

To your question, absolutely not. He has proven this time and time again. Rain delay is kind of crazy for a guy that still calls him Sleepy Joe, that he just sleeps all the time. And they, they just lie about it. They just say, no, he's not sleeping. What do you mean? I'm watching him. He is very clearly falling asleep. No, it's still Sleepy Joe.

Jim Dolan said he was not asleep.

He's just looking down at his nose.

Yeah, I do think sometimes he's looking down, but he's falling asleep.

He, he, he falls I fall asleep often when I look down.

He has fallen asleep.

You look down, all of a sudden you're like, oh, this is comfortable.

And all right, here we go, tangent time. Yeah, like, they're worth it. Find the liberal that said no, Joe Biden's got it together. They keep doing this thing, they kept lying to us, guys, Joe Biden didn't run again, because everyone kind of realized that. This guy is falling asleep every day.

I'm not— it's not a lie.

Every day there is a new video, provided he's actually meeting with somebody or at Walter Reed, we'll see, He is falling asleep every frickin' day!

Why don't they let him sleep in so he could like be less tired when he wakes up?

It's a joke!

You know, we're at war.

I know he's—

No, we're not at war.

Yeah, I know, I know he's— no, he's declared victory 39 times and we got another peace deal. We never went to war. Hey, he's conveniently sending JD to Europe to make sure that JD is not there to either bleep a couch or ruin the vibes.

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