Transcript of We're Plantation People | Hour 1

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The Dan Le Batard Show hour covers a wide range of topics, from the fallout of celebrity scandals and whether comedians' work can be separated from their crimes, to the debate over whether O.J. Simpson should be removed from the Hall of Fame.

Guest David Samson argues that renaming buildings and honors involves a rule book that people do not follow consistently. The conversation also turns to the city of Plantation, Florida, and whether its name should change, with Samson saying the city's history is not what critics assume.

Later the hosts debate fandom versus business in sports, the midterm elections and the Protect College Sports Act, and a press-conference moment involving a backup quarterback. Listeners will hear competing views on each topic.

In this episode Dan Le Batard, David Samson

The transcript of this Plantation People episode, on celebrity scandals and sports fandom, was made with HappyScribe technology, the same technology behind the Teams AI note taker.

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Speaker 300:02:08

That's weird, right?

Dan Le Batard00:02:09

It's always weird. David Sampson is often unusual, but I just wanted to include him on a conversation here. I just saw something happen in real time that I imagine is happening all the time, and I saw it happen to Zaslow in a way that was interesting. So Russell Brand is about to get a lot of prison time, and Zaslow is just learning now that getting him to the Greek and this guy that he used to like is really disappointing him. It just happened next to me where it's like he's like, oh, wait a minute, I like that guy.

What do you mean? What, he's a criminal? He's going to prison? And so it was fascinating to just watch you sort of get disappointed and feel the crush of this is a person I rooted for and he's an awful human being.

Speaker 200:02:56

Yeah, forgetting Sarah Marshall is probably my favorite comedy. Getting him to the Greek, I think, is one of the funniest movies I've ever seen. So that's disappointing about Russell Brand. Heck, this happened to me also with, you know, when I was a teenager and when I was in college. That '70s show, one of my all-time favorite shows. And Danny Masterson, clearly a real piece of shit because he women and now he's in prison for like the rest of his life. And that was shocking also to like, I don't know, you watch these people, it's like, oh, he makes me laugh. It's, oh, he's a really bad person.

Speaker 600:03:25

This guy lived under a rock. He didn't know about Tommy Tuberville either.

Speaker 200:03:27

He's locked in on sports, Jeremy. What are you doing? Come on.

Speaker 600:03:30

That guy doesn't have sports.

Speaker 200:03:31

Come on. Just a bummer when you find.

Dan Le Batard00:03:33

Zaslow lives in a cave, occasionally comes out and watches Forgetting Sarah Marshall, and then goes back to Panthers hockey. Like that. What do you?

Speaker 200:03:41

I mean, take my stories also. Take my eyes, but not my shit.

Speaker 300:03:44

I mean, that phenomenon goes all the way back to Cosby, right? Bill Cosby.

Speaker 200:03:50

Cosby's got to be the top.

Speaker 300:03:52

He's America's dad. And then look at him.

Speaker 200:03:54

So is he what, a top five guys who turned out to be rapists?

Dan Le Batard00:03:56

Yeah, go ahead and assemble that. David Sampson, you're laughing over there. Nothing personal.

Speaker 200:04:01

Like Family Feud.

Dan Le Batard00:04:02

Well, but David Sampson. So David Sampson loves the movies more than any of your guys. How do you manage all of this stuff?

David Samson00:04:07

I just don't recognize the difference. So I will tell you that I'll still listen to Michael Jackson songs and I'll still watch the usual suspects. And I try to remember that these are people who are doing things that are so terrible I don't want to know them in real life.

Speaker 300:04:23

Show me Kevin Spacey.

Speaker 200:04:24

Yeah, good answer. Good answer.

David Samson00:04:26

And I'm glad that he's going to prison because he's a rapist. But on the other hand, I laughed and I'm not going to feel bad for not feeling worse. But he's not going to get to make another movie. So he's done making me laugh. It's got to be on rerun only. And if I don't separate art from artist, I'm screwed. I won't be able to watch anything or listen to anything because it turns out celebrities and artists are just people who are committing the same types of crimes as everyone else who's being prosecuted by DAs around the country and the world.

Speaker 300:04:54

So you're really adept at separating art from the artist then.

Dan Le Batard00:04:58

That's what he just said.

Speaker 300:04:58

You have to be.

Dan Le Batard00:04:59

Okay, Roy, I'm sorry. I'm going to have to get you. I'm going to have to get you out of here, Roy. As if you weren't listening.

Speaker 200:05:03

Just hammering home the point.

Dan Le Batard00:05:04

Yeah, hammering home the point.

Speaker 300:05:05

Just get out of here.

Dan Le Batard00:05:06

Minor penalty, two minutes for not listening to the show.

Speaker 200:05:09

See that coming.

Speaker 300:05:10

Just get out of here.

Speaker 200:05:16

Please show yourself out.

Dan Le Batard00:05:18

Another example of what we're talking about, obviously, is O.J. Simpson. I'm curious, David Sampson, should the NFL retroactively abolish O.J. Simpson from the Hall of Fame? That applies to other sports as well, but in this case, I'm curious what you think.

David Samson00:05:34

There was a committee that was started at Yale where they came up with a way to judge how you decide when to rename buildings or take down statues. When you would go back in time and say, wow, that person was a racist or a rapist or a murderer, do we adjust? And there's an entire sort of rule book that now people are following with how to navigate your impossible question, Greg, because people will say, oh, just it's so easy. Just change the name of the building or get rid of O.J.

Simpson. Just erase him as though it didn't happen. And things aren't necessarily as easy as that. So applying what I know about the system to O.J. Simpson, the answer is no. The answer is that he is O.J. Simpson. Part of his story is that he was found not guilty criminally. He was found liable civilly. And then he went to prison on an unrelated robbery charge. That's part of his story. If we made the Hall of Fame, and of course we pick and choose because some people we choose do not allow in for gambling or steroids, and other people did both of those and are in the Hall of Fame in baseball.

So basically, we pick and choose inconsistently and we just live with it.

Dan Le Batard00:06:50

Why is Roy not in the penalty box? Roy decided to interrupt Greg Cody by saying literally something David Sampson had said four sentences earlier.

Speaker 300:07:00

And a day after Greg Cody Day as well.

Dan Le Batard00:07:02

Why is he still so close to the studio? Why is he not banished? I wish I still had the ocean. I'm thinking about going back to the Clevelander just so I could send Roy out to sea. I'm thinking like, I don't want to. He's just going to lean again. Like it's a lamp post. Like he's going to lean against the studio just waiting to be allowed back in when I want him the hell out of here off of Greg Cody's plantation.

Speaker 200:07:28

In his defense, he looked really cool leaning up against the wall.

David Samson00:07:30

He did.

Speaker 200:07:31

I like how that sounded.

Speaker 600:07:31

Very casual of him. I like how that sounded.

Speaker 200:07:33

Yeah, neither did I. Zaz?

Dan Le Batard00:07:35

You know what? Neither did I. You guys continue the show with David Sampson.

Speaker 200:07:39

Minor penalty, two minutes. Accidental racism.

Speaker 300:07:49

Oh, man.

Speaker 200:07:50

Hey, Zaz, what are you, a monk?

Speaker 300:07:53

Well, I mean, David's someone we could ask here. David, do you recognize? I have not seen this movie. Do you know what movie I am from? It's a shove.

Speaker 200:07:59

It was also a movie.

Speaker 300:08:00

Oh my God. Do you know what I'm from here, David? What I'm dressed as?

David Samson00:08:04

So the only thing I thought of, and this is obviously, this could end the segment right now. I thought you could have been Mork.

Speaker 200:08:11

Yeah, I like it. Robin Williams from Mork and Mindy?

Speaker 300:08:15

Yeah.

David Samson00:08:15

Yes. That's the only thing I thought of, Mike, when I saw Zaz.

Speaker 200:08:19

Mork for Mork?

David Samson00:08:20

Mork for Mork. That's the first thing.

Speaker 300:08:23

Apparently.

David Samson00:08:23

It came to my mind.

Speaker 300:08:24

I'm a character from the movie Avatar, but I thought those were blue guys.

Speaker 200:08:28

You got the blue thing on your face. From Avatar: The Last Airbender. Now that came first. That's not the same Avatar? So there was an animated series, Avatar: The Last Airbender, and then a feature film that was actually, I believe, directed by M. Night Shyamalan. No twist in this one.

Speaker 300:08:43

I don't watch cartoons. I'm an adult.

Speaker 200:08:45

Well, it was a movie too.

David Samson00:08:47

So Mike, without getting too personal, are you supposed to be Gilligan?

Speaker 200:08:51

No, I lost at the bucket and you have to wear the losing team's mascot and I had the Coast Guard.

David Samson00:09:00

They got annihilated by MIT.

Speaker 200:09:03

Which honestly was, you know, really disappointing for the men in our service. For the armed services, I was, you got pushed around by a bunch of tech nerds.

Speaker 300:09:12

Yeah.

David Samson00:09:13

I lost the bucket too and I didn't know what to dress as, so I just dressed as myself.

Speaker 200:09:18

We have something for you when you come down here next, David.

David Samson00:09:22

Got it. So it's got to be an in-person costume.

Speaker 200:09:25

That's a preference.

Speaker 300:09:26

I do want an update here because the last time we spoke with David, David was going through it because he was getting aggregated very unfairly last week. Remember with the radio? Baseball doesn't need to be on radio anymore. That was right. David, I got to tell you, I felt bad for you. That was unfair.

Dan Le Batard00:09:45

You did it.

David Samson00:09:45

Don't ever feel badly.

Speaker 300:09:46

I did not.

Dan Le Batard00:09:48

You did it. What do you mean?

David Samson00:09:49

Yes, you did.

Speaker 300:09:50

I aggregated him.

David Samson00:09:51

You did it too.

Speaker 300:09:52

I aggregated him.

Dan Le Batard00:09:53

You and David Sampson.

Speaker 300:09:54

I aggregated him.

Dan Le Batard00:09:55

You do David Sampson no good when you call afterward. Hey, so sorry. I'm an idiot.

Speaker 300:09:59

I aggregated him.

Dan Le Batard00:10:00

Yes, he wanted to talk about something.

Speaker 300:10:02

Amazing.

Dan Le Batard00:10:03

You made it worse. Did he or did he not, David?

David Samson00:10:06

It was so shocking how badly he made it worse that it made me laugh, actually, because aggregating is one thing. But when Zaz sort of leads with it in such a clumsy way with incorrect facts based on simply the aggregation, you've got a lot of Roar and reach these days, as you know, Zaz.

Dan Le Batard00:10:26

He forgets sometimes. He forgets when there are two people at City Hall.

David Samson00:10:32

Exactly.

Speaker 300:10:33

Multiple.

David Samson00:10:33

So it lasted an extra day or two, Zaz, but I am back doing radio with the very people who were absolutely furious with what I said and said how unacceptable I am in every way.

Speaker 300:10:46

Well, but can we.

David Samson00:10:46

And when they call to ask me to come on the show for free.

Dan Le Batard00:10:49

All right, can we fix the conversation? Can we fix the conversation, though? We'll do that in a second. I just, I want to get to something. Roy had a very good idea in the penalty box, and I think we need to implement it and get behind it. This show needs to work to change the name of the city of Plantation.

Speaker 200:11:06

I'm on it.

Dan Le Batard00:11:06

Like publicly, we need to work. We need to create a groundswell to the day after.

Speaker 200:11:12

Dan, that's a great idea you just came up with, Dan. I love that. Why don't we call it Codyville?

Speaker 300:11:18

Am I taking crazy pills?

Dan Le Batard00:11:19

I think.

Speaker 300:11:20

Good idea, Roy. I think this is the place.

Dan Le Batard00:11:23

Good idea.

Speaker 300:11:23

I think this is the place where we get the other website going, we'replantationpeople.com. I believe that we get.

Speaker 200:11:29

We were Plantation People.

Speaker 300:11:30

Oh, good one.

Dan Le Batard00:11:32

Yes, yes, but we in a progressive America. Look, did you see what the color of our government changed? We are progressive. Let's change the name of Plantation because Greg should not be the king of plantations.

Speaker 200:11:46

Great idea, Roy.

Speaker 300:11:46

You understand I have to abstain from this, right? Like I live in Plantation. I didn't name the city.

Dan Le Batard00:11:53

You don't have to abstain. Don't be a coward. We need to get.

Speaker 200:11:56

But we'll hide him. We'll shield him from any fallout. We'll take the blame for renaming things.

Dan Le Batard00:12:00

It's a stupid name in 2026. That and the mascot.

David Samson00:12:03

Greg, may I just.

Speaker 300:12:05

Yeah.

David Samson00:12:06

Greg, I'd like to point out to you that I lived in Plantation as well when I was president of the team.

Speaker 300:12:10

David, big surprise.

David Samson00:12:12

And I actually sought professional advice on whether I needed to move.

Speaker 300:12:17

Really?

David Samson00:12:18

Yes, because I was concerned that it would somehow that Plantation, this was when all of this was happening, all of the renaming and all of the this and the that. And what I was told is that the story behind Plantation, Florida is actually not. And I never researched it, confirmed it because I had the backing of a professional who would back me if it ever became a story. And the story was that Plantation, Florida is not named after a plantation in the sense of that you're thinking as in slaves.

So we, well, now you are completely off the hook and have to wear proudly the fact that you are king of Plantation.

Speaker 300:13:03

We're Plantation People.

Dan Le Batard00:13:05

No, we can get the, let's keep the movement going to get the name changed.

Speaker 200:13:08

That actually makes it easier for us because there's no real controversy here. It's just fun.

Dan Le Batard00:13:13

No, I'd prefer the real controversy.

Speaker 200:13:15

Well, we're creating controversy.

Speaker 300:13:17

Yeah.

Speaker 200:13:17

You don't get it, Jeremy. We're changing the name.

Speaker 300:13:19

Jeremy, take a chance.

Speaker 200:13:19

No, you know what? You're right.

Dan Le Batard00:13:20

Take a chance, Jeremy.

Speaker 200:13:21

How do you think the city of Plantation feels about the last 24 hours? They feel like they did a nice thing for Greg Cody.

Dan Le Batard00:13:27

In their jaundiced room, gave an old man surrounded by a bunch of old white people a prize in Plantation?

Speaker 200:13:32

I think you need to take a look in the mirror, Dan. This is poor. This is poor form and it's pretty disrespectful. And there's times to have that conversation about the name of the city, probably not hours after they honored your best friend.

Speaker 300:13:45

Yeah, Mike.

Speaker 200:13:46

Who you've already had a sorted month with.

Speaker 300:13:48

Yeah, Mike's right. We're Plantation People.

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Dan Le Batard00:16:08

So Sampson, how were you misrepresented last week by Zazlow and others?

David Samson00:16:13

Oh, I never said that there's not going to be audio baseball. I said that you're not going to go to your AM dial. There's going to be a different way that the audio voices will be distributed because there's no money in audio AM radio. That was the fact. And of course, it offends people thinking that I didn't love certain voices. Vince Goh here

Speaker 300:16:31

was so offended.

David Samson00:16:33

It's unbelievable, actually, but they just misunderstood and they don't realize that what I said is actually already happening because they were commenting like on their YouTube site while they were simulcasting their radio show. So it made me laugh. I need to return to something that has been bothering me since last night. And I was so lucky and thankful to be on your show today, Dan. Mike, when you got the news about Malachy Tony, the emotion you're showing, are you a fan or are you a booster and a businessman?

Because the first thing I thought of was the money that is being lost by the university potentially now with him hurt and what it could mean to their ability to go far in CFP, if at all, and how much money that would have meant to the school and the conference.

Speaker 300:17:19

Malachy.

David Samson00:17:19

Do you think that way now or not?

Speaker 200:17:21

I am a fan first and foremost, which is why I became a booster. And I'm also a businessman in that I have a Cain's media company. So the Malachy Tony injury kind of affects all those things deeply.

David Samson00:17:35

But in what order? That's what I'm asking.

Speaker 200:17:38

Fan first. That's how I got involved. Yeah, fan first.

Dan Le Batard00:17:41

David's asking the question because he can't imagine a world where people don't think money first. Like he's incapable of imagining.

David Samson00:17:47

It's going to switch, Dan, just so you know. It may not be today. There's going to be an inflection point, Mike. There will be an inflection point, I promise you, where it will be the, it will go the other way. And I thought that would be today.

Speaker 300:18:01

I don't think it get it.

Speaker 200:18:03

The tipping point in terms of money spent came to me.

Dan Le Batard00:18:06

You don't think that Sampson gets fandom? Really?

Speaker 200:18:10

Yeah.

Dan Le Batard00:18:11

You don't think he knows how to take advantage of fandom?

Speaker 200:18:14

Picking up on the sarcasm.

Dan Le Batard00:18:18

He's called that way. The first thing he thinks all the time, every time, no matter where there's emotion involved in the emotion business is where's the money?

Speaker 200:18:26

Yeah, and also like fourth is the relationships involved too. I think about all the people that are affected by this, about how fragile everything is, about how one ankle injury can change the course of history and make a good year, a bad year. Like all of it is, you know, pretty sick. But it's why I care so much because when the day comes, and I was hoping it might come later in a couple of months, but who knows now. But when the day comes, it's going to be one of the most fulfilling, wonderful moments of my life. But right now I'm in pure hell.

Speaker 300:18:56

I think where David, you know, is wrong here is Mike's fandom brought him to the business side. David, your fandom didn't bring you to the business. Your career, your ambition brought you to the business side of sports, not your fandom.

David Samson00:19:13

Yeah, but it's so seductive that it gets everyone caught in its web, definitionally. And it may not be today, Mike, but I just want you to be prepared for the fact that you're right. It will not be as amazing when they win the national championship as it would be if you were simply just a fan.

Dan Le Batard00:19:29

David, what? If I can, because I don't understand why you don't understand what your blind spot is here when you're looking at Mike. Sometimes you wander around life and it seems like you're trying to look at human beings trying to understand how you too can be one. Like when it comes to fandom, you don't really understand it for sports because the business has saturated you, but you do understand it for movies and music, which is weird, right?

David Samson00:19:54

No, I was a really big fan of sports, actually. And I remember the day. I remember the feeling. I told you I felt better when the Knicks made the finals in '94 than I did when the Marlins won the World Series. It felt totally different, way better.

Speaker 300:20:07

That's crazy.

David Samson00:20:07

What happened.

Speaker 300:20:08

That's crazy.

David Samson00:20:09

I'm just telling you the truth about the way it was inside me. It was super exciting to win a penalty in the World Series. Like really cool, really good for the business, really good for everything. But being a fan is just way better. But you're both crossing the streams, Mike. You're a fan of the very same entity where you are in business. And there will come a moment that you will be forced to make a choice. And the choice will always be business.

Speaker 200:20:36

I think there's.

David Samson00:20:37

And you don't see it now.

Speaker 300:20:38

No.

David Samson00:20:38

But it's going to happen.

Speaker 200:20:39

No, ultimately the choice is my integrity and what I follow my own convictions, but there've been plenty of those crossroads. Look, I'm not even saying my way is the right way. It's just the way that I prefer. And a lot of people think it's silly to donate as much money to a school that I didn't go to. And I hear all the criticisms. What I value is the relationships I built. I think from a networking standpoint, this relationship with the school and its boosters.

Speaker 300:21:05

I think it's going to feel even better for you.

Speaker 200:21:07

Has brought a lot to the table. I've made lifelong friendships and I care for a lot of people in that program. And it was something that I grew up with. I grew up going to the Orange Bowl. I grew up rooting for that U. It means a lot to me. And while a lot of people think it's silly, all right, that's how I choose to live my life.

Speaker 300:21:21

Okay, so like David, you said the Knicks making the finals in '94 felt better than the Marlins winning in '03. What if instead of being executive with the Marlins, you weren't executive with the Knicks, your childhood team, and you won?

David Samson00:21:36

I would have felt great satisfaction. I thought about it when I was interviewing to run the Knicks. I thought about what that would mean when I would possibly win as an executive for the Knicks. And I remember thinking to myself that it will be forever different. The relationship with the team will be forever different. And that was fine by me. It was not a big issue, actually. Just not firing Isaiah Thomas ended up being the problem there. But it was for me understanding that there's a fan world and a business world.

And the first thought when Tony got injured for me was business, much like when a pitcher walks off the mound and you know that it's Tommy John or they're flexing in a way that you know that's a year. It is so unbelievably awful knowing what a player has to go through to rehab. It is very lonely. It is very difficult. And I have great empathy for it, whether it's an ACL, an Achilles, a Tommy John, but your mind immediately goes to, all right, what's next? What do we do for the business in order to keep it going?

Because tomorrow or Saturday, there's a game against Notre Dame. And Crystal Ball is not in that clubhouse saying, oh man, we're screwed. They're next man up. Let's go. We're here to win a national championship. And that's the harsh part about this game.

Dan Le Batard00:22:51

David, you were the Marlins president for a lot of years. Would you describe yourself back then as a ardent baseball fan or not? Because my theory is you don't have to be a fan of the sport to be a great club president.

David Samson00:23:06

We actually didn't want to hire fans of the sport. Fans of the sport end up wanting to watch batting practice and hang out with players and not, it's why everyone wants to be in sports until they get into sports and then all of a sudden they leave because there's not a lot of money in it and it's not as glamorous as you think. You're not, you know, hanging out with Giancarlo Stanton. So yeah, it's something that I think about all the time in terms of it's just a business and you have to look at it like that or else you just won't be good. Which probably informs Greg a lot of parts of my life, which you call robotic and I just call efficient.

Speaker 200:23:40

The election changed a lot of things about this country, but there is a sports tie. Many people don't know that a lot of the local elections mean boards of college football, universities, and traditional powers, they're going to look a little different. And a lot of people are confused as to what that might be. One of the most influential boosters in the nation at Texas Tech, one of the main power brokers, he might be out of a job soon. But here is an article from Ross Dellinger and here's a quote from that article. If you want a quote, here it is. The aide said, "The NIL bill is dead on bleeping arrival."

Your take.

David Samson00:24:14

I did an entire segment on this that is, I'd like to just say what I didn't get to say on nothing personal. One of the things about the midterm elections is people end up voting and deciding what matters to them. And we can talk about the corruption, we can talk about the power and the power grab by Trump, and we can talk about how bad things are with the climate and everything else. People actually really vote in a selfish way. They vote about how they're feeling themselves, about their life, about their money situation, about promises that may have been made that didn't happen.

The Protect College Sports Act, that is something that for regular people, regular voters, they're not focused on that. When everything happened, the blue wave that happened, the result is that that Protect College Sports Act is done. But that was not in anyone's mind when they were voting at all, in my opinion. It's collateral damage to it. And there is no way to resuscitate it now. It's going to wait for another day, another session, another year, another midterm. But there were a thousand things like that that are proceeding in a certain way, including judicial appointments, US attorney appointments.

We're talking about people's lives. And I'm not commenting on whether it was a great day or a bad day. To me, it was a great day yesterday. However.

Dan Le Batard00:25:31

You are commenting.

David Samson00:25:31

A lot of lives got impacted.

Dan Le Batard00:25:33

You did just comment on it. You said you're not commenting.

David Samson00:25:35

You wanted to sit on the fence.

Dan Le Batard00:25:37

You wanted to sit on the fence.

David Samson00:25:38

Comment on that.

Dan Le Batard00:25:38

And then you commented on it. You wanted to be a fence sitter and then you didn't. You got off the fence and then you said it was a great day.

David Samson00:25:43

I'm never a fence sitter. I have a very, very tight tush. There's no fence sitting for me.

Dan Le Batard00:25:49

Interesting.

David Samson00:25:49

So the point is that a lot of lives changed. And part of it was NIL and Protect College Sports Act. That is not going to happen. And you talked about Texas. That was a big topic of mine. That's a huge deal that people don't think about where the regions are chosen by a person. And when you change the person, it's like bringing in, if Dan were replaced by someone, we're all in jeopardy. That's part of life. It's when a new owner comes in or a new team president, people change out. That will happen on the regions, on the board of regions.

And that's a very powerful position that just like that disappears.

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Dan Le Batard.

David Samson00:26:58

Can't wait for 39.

Speaker 300:27:00

Yeah, I can't either. 40 comes first.

Speaker 200:27:03

Do you know what 40 is yet?

Speaker 300:27:05

Not yet.

Speaker 200:27:06

See, what are we doing here?

Dan Le Batard00:27:07

Greg, did you just laugh? Did you just laugh out loud at something Louis said in your ear?

Speaker 200:27:12

Greg Coty.

Speaker 300:27:13

Yes. I couldn't help it. It was funny.

Dan Le Batard00:27:17

Yeah, but.

Speaker 300:27:17

Thanks, Louis.

Dan Le Batard00:27:18

Yeah, but.

Speaker 300:27:19

Gagging the goose.

Speaker 200:27:22

Of course.

Speaker 300:27:24

Choking the frog. I mean, there's a million of them.

Speaker 200:27:26

Of course.

Speaker 300:27:27

Half of them would sound dirty if we keep doing it.

Speaker 200:27:29

This is the Dan Le Batard Show.

Dan Le Batard00:27:43

Let's get the reaper, please, so that David Sampson, we can get him in a costume. We got a lot of costumes today. You know that pleases me even though I secretly deny it. What's going on with the, who shrunk the reaper? That's far less menacing than it used to be. I mean, you can't have, is that Brad Williams? You can't.

David Samson00:28:06

Stop it.

Speaker 300:28:07

I got the Patriots. They are, as I've said.

Dan Le Batard00:28:11

Third home against the Packers, three-point favorite.

David Samson00:28:14

I don't like that.

Speaker 300:28:15

I don't like that.

Dan Le Batard00:28:16

I don't like that.

Speaker 300:28:18

Three-point favorite.

David Samson00:28:18

I don't know why I don't like it, but I don't like it.

Speaker 200:28:21

Jordan Love can have a big game.

Speaker 300:28:22

The Texans.

Dan Le Batard00:28:25

The Texans are at the.

Speaker 200:28:27

It's a good one here.

David Samson00:28:28

Upgrade.

Dan Le Batard00:28:29

They are at the Chargers. They're four and a half point favorite.

Speaker 200:28:32

Oh, the Chargers are going to win against somebody.

Speaker 300:28:33

Chargers are due.

David Samson00:28:34

Yeah, Chargers are due for sure.

Dan Le Batard00:28:36

Is McConkie playing?

Speaker 300:28:38

Yeah.

Speaker 200:28:39

Played last week.

Speaker 300:28:40

Good layup.

Speaker 200:28:40

This is one of their lone bright spots.

Speaker 300:28:41

This is a very small person.

Dan Le Batard00:28:45

Reaper's a person? Put it on the poll at Le Batard Show. Is the Grim Reaper a person?

Speaker 200:28:49

Joel Milton?

Speaker 300:28:50

No, this is the Jets. And they're a nine and a half point.

Dan Le Batard00:28:53

They're at the Chiefs.

Speaker 300:28:54

Nine and a half.

Speaker 200:28:56

I'm going to put that one back. Put that one back.

Dan Le Batard00:28:59

Sampson, do you have a preference on who picks for you?

David Samson00:29:02

No. I believe in everyone equally.

Speaker 200:29:04

Raiders.

Dan Le Batard00:29:06

You would not fit in in Greg Coty's plantation.

Speaker 200:29:08

I somehow got a worse line. Raiders are plus 10 at the Niners. That's a loss.

Dan Le Batard00:29:12

There are a lot of bad lines this week. There are a lot of just big favorites.

Speaker 300:29:17

All right, I'm done with the Golden Globe Awards.

David Samson00:29:18

I owe you a costume, Dan.

Speaker 300:29:19

Sam Romerging.

Dan Le Batard00:29:21

Some of my favorite words.

Speaker 300:29:24

Vikings. Ooh, Monday night against the Beatles.

Dan Le Batard00:29:26

He owes me a costume. Roy, I need you to pay attention to the show.

Speaker 300:29:29

We have one ready for you. Don't you worry. I think Bills are going to beat the Vikings on Monday night. I'm going to put that back.

Speaker 200:29:35

We're a bold take there, buddy.

Speaker 300:29:35

You and the rest of America.

Speaker 200:29:36

Fricking Raiders, man.

Speaker 300:29:42

Panthers against the Broncos.

Dan Le Batard00:29:44

Is that Alex Maribel?

Speaker 200:29:46

Just toss me how to read past the.

Dan Le Batard00:29:48

The University of Miami's offensive line coach. That is the tiniest reaper I've ever seen. It looks like a child. Do we have a child doing this?

Speaker 300:29:58

Underdog.

Dan Le Batard00:30:00

So the smallest favorite in the pros is the Panthers at home as a two and a half point underdog against the Broncos.

Speaker 300:30:08

I'm putting it back.

Speaker 200:30:09

A lot of putbacks this week.

Dan Le Batard00:30:15

Dolphins. Seven-point dog at home. Oh, another old boy from Greg Coty in the wild.

Speaker 200:30:20

This has been bloody. This has been a tough one.

Dan Le Batard00:30:23

There are a lot of bad lines here.

Speaker 300:30:25

We all have dogs.

Dan Le Batard00:30:26

Oh my God. I am getting aroused.

Speaker 200:30:31

Now he's got Joe Mitchell.

David Samson00:30:32

Roy, you have to say the team.

Speaker 200:30:33

Yeah, Eagles.

Speaker 300:30:34

Now Joe Mitchell.

Speaker 200:30:36

That paused there for a second.

Speaker 300:30:37

Dan, he's been terrible today.

Speaker 200:30:38

All right, the Eagles.

Speaker 300:30:41

I like this watchdog character of Tony.

Speaker 200:30:45

Just keep the energy when you're bad.

Speaker 300:30:47

I'm always bad.

Dan Le Batard00:30:48

Makes me laugh every time he says, I meant to text him the other day.

Speaker 200:30:52

Another dog.

Dan Le Batard00:30:53

Somebody's been terrible to me. It's such a brutal axe to hit someone in the neck with.

Speaker 300:31:00

At work. He has been terrible today.

Speaker 200:31:03

The Colts are six-point underdogs against the Cowboys.

Speaker 300:31:06

And he tells his boss.

Speaker 200:31:08

Like cattle.

Speaker 300:31:10

Snitches, man.

Dan Le Batard00:31:12

And he's never wrong.

Speaker 200:31:14

It's a good bit. No.

Speaker 300:31:15

I was fine yesterday.

Speaker 200:31:16

100% accuracy. No, you weren't. 100% accuracy. It's never been wrong. It's never been wrong. I'll give that to Tony.

Dan Le Batard00:31:24

It's the most successfully accurate thing we do. He's always right. And he says it a lot.

Speaker 200:31:30

Vikings, okay.

Speaker 300:31:32

The Bills, right?

Speaker 200:31:32

He walks into his boss's office and he points at the room and tells his boss, but that's been bad.

Speaker 300:31:39

I've gotten.

Speaker 200:31:40

Play by play here. He put the Vikings back.

David Samson00:31:42

I think that's Roy's first time being there.

Speaker 200:31:44

What'd you get?

Speaker 300:31:45

Falcons.

Speaker 200:31:46

Man, this has been a brutal, brutal bucket. They're a three-point dog at home against the Cincinnati Bengals. And we've all pulled dogs like multiple times. No one's pulled.

Speaker 300:31:56

Like the Texans.

Speaker 200:31:57

You put back the Packers.

Speaker 300:31:58

Like the Dolphins, but they've already been taken. So can I pick again for the first time?

Speaker 200:32:01

No.

Speaker 300:32:01

How'd you put that back?

Dan Le Batard00:32:03

You can put it back, but you can't pick again.

Speaker 300:32:04

Why is a Dolphin's helmet in there?

Speaker 200:32:05

We have two Dolphin's helmets.

Dan Le Batard00:32:06

We do have two Dolphin helmets.

Speaker 300:32:08

You know what? That's fair.

Speaker 200:32:08

That's fair.

Speaker 300:32:10

I like that.

David Samson00:32:10

Dan, that's dangerous.

Speaker 300:32:13

I got the Chiefs and I'm going to keep them.

Speaker 200:32:15

All right, finally a good pull.

Dan Le Batard00:32:17

I'm going to wait a second before I pull because I want to examine this thing that Tony has done that has made me closer to him. His accuracy on who's terrible is so good that I'm reminded, yeah, I was thinking the same thing. And so every time he says it, is it exactly the same time as I was like, you're so right. You're so right. And Roy, he's so right about you today.

Speaker 300:32:42

What?

Dan Le Batard00:32:43

The Bengals. The Bengals is who I pick.

David Samson00:32:45

That's for you? Okay.

Dan Le Batard00:32:47

And I think I want them, don't I?

Speaker 300:32:49

They're a favorite at the Falcons. Three-point favorite.

Dan Le Batard00:32:51

Do I?

David Samson00:32:51

I like it against the Falcons.

Dan Le Batard00:32:53

Where you going?

Speaker 300:32:53

Reaper, hold on.

Dan Le Batard00:32:54

I don't know that I want that.

Speaker 300:32:55

All right, so put it back.

Speaker 200:32:57

You don't know if you want a three-point favorite.

Dan Le Batard00:33:00

I think I can do better. I think I can do better.

David Samson00:33:03

Whoa, this is a whoa thing. Funny when you throw two hands.

Dan Le Batard00:33:06

No, I threw the helmet somebody gave me back in there.

Speaker 300:33:09

I gave it to you.

Speaker 200:33:10

Seahawks.

Speaker 300:33:11

Seahawks.

David Samson00:33:12

That's got to be good.

Speaker 300:33:12

Drew Lock against the Cardinals.

David Samson00:33:15

Wait, no. That line can't be right the way we have it written.

Dan Le Batard00:33:18

I've got the Seahawks as a 12 and a half point dog.

David Samson00:33:21

I think that's just the opposite. I'm going to go out on that.

Speaker 200:33:23

You want to say that's wrong.

Speaker 300:33:24

Sam Darnold's out.

Speaker 200:33:25

Seahawks are the favorite. Sam Darnold's out.

Speaker 300:33:27

Mitchu did look good.

David Samson00:33:28

I'm like a dog with a bone with this one.

Speaker 300:33:29

Worth noting two things about the bucket this week. Last week's losers were Dan, Mike, and myself. Also, Zazlow just gave up his golden helmet of life. I am not reminding anyone. They have the golden helmet of life. So he just picked the Chiefs. He does have one more week remaining.

Speaker 200:33:44

Wait, what?

Dan Le Batard00:33:45

You didn't have to pick. And now let's pick for David Sampson.

Speaker 300:33:49

Oh, good.

Dan Le Batard00:33:49

You had three weeks off and you picked anyway.

Speaker 300:33:52

No, once you pick, you pick. That's it. I'm not reminding anybody that they have it.

Speaker 200:33:55

No, but I'll use it next week.

Dan Le Batard00:33:57

Yes, David?

Speaker 300:33:57

Yeah, you have one more week.

David Samson00:33:58

Great. I'm raw dogging it.

Speaker 200:34:00

You what?

David Samson00:34:02

I'm raw dogging it. Whatever you pick, I'm keeping.

Speaker 200:34:05

Oh, okay.

Speaker 300:34:05

I like that.

Speaker 200:34:06

Like first pick? You're just going to ride with that?

Speaker 300:34:07

First pick.

Speaker 200:34:08

I'll do it for him.

David Samson00:34:08

That's it.

Speaker 300:34:10

Raw dogging it.

Speaker 200:34:12

He has underdog.

Speaker 300:34:13

Pick any underdog.

Speaker 200:34:14

So we get to pick for him the underdog, right?

Speaker 300:34:16

He gets to pick.

Dan Le Batard00:34:17

He gets to pick.

Speaker 200:34:17

We just did cover the Seahawks are a 12 and a half point dog at home according to this paper.

David Samson00:34:21

I'll take it.

Dan Le Batard00:34:22

No, the Panthers are the smallest dog. If you want the Panthers, they're at home against the Broncos.

Speaker 300:34:27

I've got the Panthers.

Speaker 200:34:28

Yeah, somebody's already got it.

Speaker 300:34:29

That's okay. You can double up.

Speaker 200:34:30

That's fine.

Dan Le Batard00:34:31

Wait, you guys are now going to talk about what the rules to this should be when we pick two Dolphin helmets?

Speaker 200:34:35

Well, apparently that was with intention.

Speaker 300:34:38

That was a truthful, if I'm being truthful, yes. We upped the odds of being able to select the Dolphins. We want more punishments. That team sucks. We thought they lose every game. We doubled up with Dolphins helmets. We should have to suffer the wrath of our team being picked.

David Samson00:34:50

David, what's your pick? Can you just name five underdogs for me?

Speaker 300:34:54

The Panthers are two and a half point underdog. The Falcons are a three-point. The Browns are a three-point underdog.

Speaker 200:34:59

Fox are a six-point dog.

Speaker 300:35:00

Chargers, four and a half. This is good radio. The Packers are a three-point.

Speaker 200:35:03

Chargers.

Speaker 300:35:04

Chargers.

Speaker 200:35:04

Chargers.

Speaker 300:35:04

He wants to dress up.

Dan Le Batard00:35:06

He wants to dress up. He wants the attention.

David Samson00:35:08

They're going to win a game.

Dan Le Batard00:35:09

He wants to be in a costume.

Speaker 300:35:10

Now the their-do theory.

David Samson00:35:12

Can I explain the pick? I'm a winner either way. Because if the Chargers win, then I win this and I don't have to dress up. If the Chargers lose, I get to do another segment where I'm going to be right that Mike McDaniel is going to get fired. And I've been calling for it for three straight weeks. I'm eventually going to get that way to see right. So by having the Chargers in the bucket of death, I am a winner either way.

Speaker 300:35:36

Speaking of the Chargers, Will Anderson, he was at the podium and Will Anderson's probably on pace for defensive player of the year. Like Dan, he's one of the best pass rushers in the league. He's been incredible all season. I want you guys to take a look and listen to this.

Dan Le Batard00:35:47

Multiple seasons.

Speaker 300:35:48

Multiple seasons. But I want to take a listen to this and see, try to figure out who he's talking about here.

Speaker 600:35:53

Yeah, he's still a really great quarterback in this league. You talk about a big guy who has a big arm that can run around, that can throw the ball deep, makes a lot of plays with his legs. He's still a very respectable player in this league and we have a ton of respect for them. As far as scheme, we're going to probably see a lot of bounce. McDaniels, he's went against this defense a lot of times, coached against this defense was at San Fran, I believe. So we know what to expect a little bit. But Herbert, man, he's playing out his mind. They have a really great solid O-line as well and some really good running backs that can get downhill, that can hit the perimeter. So it's going to be a good challenge.

Dan Le Batard00:36:24

Bit of a tell in there, Tony.

Speaker 300:36:25

Michael Pennick.

Speaker 200:36:26

He's talking about Justin Herbert? He said he's playing out of his mind. The offensive line is great and their running backs are amazing. Is he watching the right team?

Speaker 300:36:34

Tony, Tony.

Speaker 200:36:35

Hold on. I'm doing a thing here. Hold on.

David Samson00:36:37

He's trying to power through.

Speaker 200:36:38

Give me a second. You can't do that to me.

Speaker 300:36:39

Tony.

Speaker 200:36:40

I do it to you. I do it to you.

Speaker 300:36:41

You've been bad today.

Speaker 200:36:42

No, it's impossible. It's impossible. Dan, is he watching the same film we're watching? Because he says that the scheme has been great. Herbert's been great. Herbert's thrown interceptions to guys on the other team.

Speaker 300:36:52

No, I didn't say he's been playing great. He's been playing out of his mind.

Speaker 200:36:55

Out of his mind. Out of his mind, Dan.

Dan Le Batard00:36:56

Sampson, what are you shaking your head about?

David Samson00:36:58

Because Tony, you screwed up the edit. You could have played all of that, but stopped it like 10 seconds earlier and your whole thing is awesome. But you kept it. I don't know if you listened in advance. You're not doing your job. You got to listen to what they cut.

Speaker 300:37:11

Don't tell me I'm not doing my job.

David Samson00:37:12

Justin.

Dan Le Batard00:37:13

You've been telling everyone that they're terrible at their job. You've been telling everybody. And I've agreed with you. And on this one, I disagree with you that you've been doing your job correctly. You're going to have to leave the room. Herbert, he said it during the clip. I'd prefer to go to a Gardner-Mintchew.

Speaker 300:37:28

Ooh, I like that one too.

Speaker 200:37:30

Minor penalty, two minutes. Delay of show.

Dan Le Batard00:37:32

I'd like to get to Gardner-Mintchew gutting a fish because I'm scared of him because.

Speaker 200:37:39

Clear show yourself out.

Dan Le Batard00:37:40

Every once in a while, Gardner-Mintchew will throw out a couple of good games in a row and people will believe he will be a starting quarterback. This hat, this look, is he wearing jean shorts? There have been very few quarterbacks like this and there are presently none in the league like this. Lot of, lot of chess hair.

Speaker 700:38:02

Yeah, so I was out fishing and I get this call to come play for Arizona and I said, it was cool as long as I always have fresh worms in my locker.

David Samson00:38:19

He's stoned there, no?

Speaker 200:38:21

That was my takeaway.

Dan Le Batard00:38:23

Put on the poll has.

David Samson00:38:24

I was thinking Ken Stabler.

Dan Le Batard00:38:25

Put on the poll at Le Batard Show has Gardner-Mintchew played stoned. What were you thinking? You think Ken Stabler, Kenny Stabler would gut a fish during a press conference?

David Samson00:38:34

That's what I was reminded of watching that clip, that that's how I would picture Kenny Stabler doing a presser would be like that. Sort of, I don't really.

Dan Le Batard00:38:43

Gutting a fish. Gutting a fish.

David Samson00:38:44

It's not about gutting a fish. The point is, it was a very laissez-faire attitude. I thought that was your point here, that, hey, you have an opportunity now that you didn't have. How great is that? And that he's trying to be funny and quirky, but this is a serious moment for him, in my opinion.

Speaker 300:39:02

What? In his career, like the chance to start is what David's talking about.

David Samson00:39:06

Yes. Yes.

Speaker 300:39:08

He's done it before.

Dan Le Batard00:39:10

He's gutting a fish in a press conference. He's going to Seattle and playing one of the best defenses in the league. Everyone knows he's a backup. He's not a starter.

Speaker 300:39:17

But I'm with David. Like if their head coach is looking at this, like we're doing schtick, you finally have your chance to start and you're wearing a fishing hat.

Dan Le Batard00:39:26

Are you not familiar with what the Mintchew brand is? It's exactly this. It's been this since college.

David Samson00:39:32

If I'm the head coach of the Cardinals, I'm like putting my hand on my forehead just like putting on the.

Dan Le Batard00:39:36

Put it on the poll at Le Batard Show. Should Mintchew play in jean shorts? That's who this guy is. Like what are you talking about? It's the whole thing. He comes out every once in a while. It surprised you by breaking old Jerry Jones's heart when they put him in a game. And then Burset, that'll end your career every time. Get out of here.

Speaker 300:39:55

That can't be proper cutting technique too. I mean, he's about to cut his.

David Samson00:39:58

And look at his fingernails.

Speaker 300:39:59

Making me nervous.

David Samson00:40:00

You don't want a sushi chef with 30 fingernails.

Dan Le Batard00:40:04

David, what's the movie you're reviewing for us today?

David Samson00:40:07

I'm reviewing a show on Apple TV called Brothers that just finished yesterday with Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson playing themselves in a show that's based on a true rumor.

Speaker 200:40:17

No, that's True Detective.

David Samson00:40:20

No, it's called Brothers. True Detective, they were characters.

Dan Le Batard00:40:24

True Detective is the one they were good in. This one stinks.

David Samson00:40:27

I loved it. I loved the Supertramp opening song. It's the only show that I've watched in a super long time where I never skipped the intro song. Always I press skip intro, but in this one, I loved the feel of hearing Give a Little Bit, which is a Supertramp song. Give a little bit, give a little bit of your love for anyway. So, and the show itself.

Dan Le Batard00:40:50

Don't do that ever again.

David Samson00:40:52

Is them. And they are so entertaining. It is eight quick episodes. I strongly suggest it. The question is, are they really brothers in real life? Holland Taylor plays the mother of Matthew McConaughey and everyone in it is just pitch perfect, including Matthew and Woody in their best roles they've had since Dallas Buyers Club and Cheers, in my opinion.

Speaker 300:41:14

What?

David Samson00:41:14

Although Natural Born Killers was very, very good.

Dan Le Batard00:41:17

What? David, I watched the first 30 minutes of it and turned it off because the writing was so bad.

David Samson00:41:23

But then you got into episode two because each episode is below 30 minutes. And by episode three, you're so invested in what's happening. And it's just.

Dan Le Batard00:41:30

I didn't even make it 30 minutes. 15 minutes, I made it through writing.

David Samson00:41:35

So I have a different criteria. I want to be sometimes escape and entertained and I want to not have to think about things. And it's a perfect, I'm not looking for it to win an Oscar or a Pulitzer. I'm looking to be entertained for 27 minutes at a time for eight Wednesdays in a row and it worked. Why can't I have that as my review? I don't quite understand your point.

Dan Le Batard00:41:55

See you later, David.

David Samson00:41:57

Okay.

Dan Le Batard00:41:58

Just we're out of time. That's all. We're just out of time. That's it. And you don't understand fandom.

David Samson00:42:04

I have a very, very tight tush.

Episode description

"Who shrunk the reaper?"

Something happens in this hour that will get a member of the Shipping Container off the show. Tune in to find out who.
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