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The Stanley Cup Final is here. We have a trade demand and a man finally won a trophy that he so richly deserved. Except you didn't deserve it this year. This is The Hockey Show.

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With David Drucker of The Hockey News, we have Rose and Ethan producing. I'm Roy Bellamy. This is The Hockey Show. We are 2 games into the Stanley Cup Final. The series is split at 2. Now, obviously the first game didn't go the way we planned. We planned— I ain't planning anything. The way we thought.

You got the script?

I got my script over here. Now I'm not reading very well, but—

You got the game script.

Yeah, the game script is not what we expected to happen. 9 goals in that game. Yeah, not good defense, not good goaltending. Vegas won that one. Game 2, Carolina won in overtime., it was like a complete different game. Carolina scored twice. Nikolai Ehlers had 2 goals. He scored twice early. Brett Howden scored twice on 2 breakaways in Game 2. And both teams came back and won. It's just a close series. I think personally this is going 7. That's just my opinion.

I hope so.

And I'm going to have to go with Carolina in that situation, even though Ethan's probably Well, Ethan's already angry about what happened.

Yeah, I mean, I looked in the mirror last night after the game, Roy, and I was like, am I really gonna be upset about— Well, you always look sad in the mirror. These games are— these have been two awesome hockey games so far. And yes, they're between two teams that I despise and I don't want either of these teams to win. But I mean, if you look at the games like 5-4 in game one, 3-2— what was it? 4-3 in overtime with all the drama at the end of the game last night. Yeah, it's been a fantastic series so far. Two Really good teams have earned their way here and they're putting on a great series that is headed towards a classic, even though, you know, it wasn't the most hyped matchup you've ever seen. So two really great games, two very different games, like you said. But at the same time, both teams find a way to claw out a win. And we're going back to Vegas with an even series. And I agree with you, Roy. This looks— obviously we were doing the thing of if Vegas wins tonight, but Vegas didn't win and we're looking at a long series here, boys.

I love how, first of all, the first thing you said there was, I was looking at myself in the mirror last night talking to myself, which is like the most surprising thing.

No, I wasn't actually looking at myself in the mirror.

Let the man finish!

It was a figurative monolog in the mirror.

Let him finish!

But then you're so bleeping long-winded that I had to wait like 90 seconds to make the joke. So anyway, Rose, please.

I didn't actually look at myself in the mirror.

Rose is talking! Rose is talking!

Tell me how ignorant I am because my opinion of the games was, it was like, it's a copy paste. It's just one team did it one time and the other team did it the other time.

It's not exactly copy pasted.

I think it was. It was just different teams. Like first, the first one, Carolina was winning and then Vegas took it for them. And then Vegas was winning and Carolina took it for them. So for me, it's a copy paste.

Rose is kind of right about that. Both teams blew 2-0 leads, right? Early 2-0 leads and one late. With dramatics.

I said that. Poor Brayden McNabb. He took a slap shot from the point. It hit his visor first before hitting his nose. And David is going to talk about that in a little bit. He got rushed to the hospital after taking that puck to the square to the nose. I saw it as his nose got completely pushed in and then went to the left. It looked bad and he went to the hospital. I don't know how he's going to be able to travel.

He is traveling though. That is, it was reported this morning that he is traveling with the team.

But he can die.

Yeah, that's the point I'm trying to make.

Clearly they feel it's safe enough for him to— like, they wouldn't just be like, "Ah, well, it'll be okay. It'll be fine." No, I'm sure they know it might be painful for him. The pressure. Yeah, yeah, the pressure in the airplane. You guys mentioned it last night on our livestream, and thank you to everybody who watched along with us last night on the watch-along. That was awesome. But yeah, it's—

except the overtime.

No, the overtime was great. It was quick. It was exciting.

But yeah, he went to the hospital. His status is up in the air right now. He may or may not play Game 3, and I wouldn't be surprised if he did play Game 3.

If he's good enough to fly.

Full cage.

Yeah, definitely the birdcage. Yeah. But oh man, that's rough. That's bad for him.

Let's talk about John Tortorella's decision to challenge again. Now, we had the sound muted, so we didn't exactly know what exactly what exactly the challenge was, but whatever that challenge was, it was a bad idea.

It was on the goalie interference. And that's like, there's been a lot of pushback today as I was scrolling social media this morning and seeing some of the reaction from last night. There's a lot of people after everybody was on Tortz's case last night for what a bad challenge. Today it's like, oh, maybe not. Some people are starting to think that because they're saying the puck may have been loose, that it was never covered. I disagree with that. I think you can see Andersen corral the puck and go like this with it. And then there's a, maybe a second where it's under him. It travels from the top part of his body underneath. One of his players pops on him and then the puck poops out the back. But there was time where you couldn't see the puck. There was time where the goalie turtled over the puck. And at that moment, the ref's like, covered. So I see where, I see the call. I know people are bitching about it today, but I still agree with it. I think it was a bad challenge.

Yeah, I, I think it was a tough challenge because even though I agree that it was a quick whistle, The whistle obviously blew and the whistle was blowing kind of as the puck was trickling into the net. That was never a challenge that Tortorella was going to win. And in that spot, with all the momentum on Carolina's side, giving them a power play, it was clear that he didn't fear the Carolina power play at all, which he had reason to. They haven't, you know, really been great, but then they score there and they score in overtime to win. So that power play is now 2 for 4 last night. Yeah, it was, it was a terrible challenge that before Vegas evens up the game, you're looking at that as, wow, this challenge could cost them the series because it was that level of awful in terms of it was such a clear point of just flipping the momentum completely on its head in the series.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The momentum wasn't flipped. The momentum was already on Carolina's side.

Yes.

In that game.

In that game. Yes. But when you're talking about in the series as a whole, that could have been the turning point in the series where at least you're going to 2-2, but now you give them a power play and then they score on that ensuing power play and it's 3-2. I forget who scored the third one for Vegas. Whoever it was, absolutely— Stone bailed Tortorella's ass out. That was a huge bailout for Tortorella.

He didn't get bailed out though. After the game when he was asked about it, he said, and I quote, 'I challenge it 10 times out of 10—

10 out of 10 times.' Well, you would lose 10 out of 10 times in this situation, would you?

I mean, at least he, you know, good credit on him for standing on his laurels or whatever, but that is Prideful.

Yeah, that is being prideful. He's a prideful person. Yeah, but that was a high-risk, high-reward, uh, situation. And that late in the game, that late in the game, tied with Carolina, wave after wave, ended up tying the game. You give him a chance to take the lead late in the game there on a power play. If you miss on, on that challenge Yeah, that's— yeah, that's poor form right there.

I get the risk value because like Carolina just scored 2 goals. All the momentum is on their side and now you potentially have a goal for your side that would have maybe cut their momentum, that would have shifted the game. So I see like what his thought process is. But at the end of the day, you can't make 2 2 5. Like what we saw is what we saw.

Can we also talk about the fact that Freddy Andersen made that save in that spot? Like, what are we doing? It's 2026. Freddie Andersen, who's been a pumpkin and he's been one of the biggest reasons the Canes have like never made it to this point. And then he goes and makes that save in Game 2 of the Stanley Cup Final to basically keep his team's season alive. Like if it's 3-2 there and Vegas ends, you know, ends the game and is going back up 2-0, like this is a— we're looking at the series as Vegas has a chance to sweep going back home. But my God, that's a series-changing save by Freddie Andersen, whether it was a you know, whether it was the right call or not, that was— it turned out to be, and that was a fantastic save.

Is Brayden McNabb the favorite right now? Or not, excuse me, not Brayden McNabb. Is Brett Howden right now the favorite for the Conn Smythe? Like, obviously it's 1-1, we don't know how the series is going to go, but if you had to vote right now, like, who is it other than him? Like, it's ridiculous. 13 goals in the playoffs.

We're still looking at Mitch Marner.

Yeah, are we looking at the, um—

what's Marner done in the Stanley Cup Final?

Well, nothing as of yet, but Game 3 is tomorrow.

We'll see what happens. Well, that's what I said, if you had to vote today, dude.

I mean, well, I mean, I'm voting that— I'm not voting for anything. I don't have a vote yet.

All right, I'm gonna shut up now because Marner has 3 points in 2 Stanley Cup Final games. No goals, 3 assists. Yeah, still productive.

You forgot about the assist situation.

Yeah, sorry Toronto.

Yeah, so Marner's first, then Freddie Andersen. Brett Howden is far— is 5th right now.

Very handsome.

Brett Howden is very handsome.

It's good analysis.

Wow.

It's good analysis.

Very handsome.

Sorry. That's great. The Yizer plan doesn't seem to be working in Detroit right now as Chris Cody is giving a thumbs up with sunglasses on because he's still in the building. Elliott Friedman is reporting— Elliott Friedman of Sportsnet is reporting that Dylan Larkin— his sources are saying Dylan Larkin wants to be traded. He has asked for a trade. He hasn't— fool. No trade clause until the end of next season. So whatever offer that the Red Wings get, Larkin's gonna have to give his blessing, um, because he has to waive that no trade clause to complete the deal. Larkin had 34 goals and 33 assists this season for 67 points. He had 2 goals and assists for the United States in the Olympics and a goal and assist last season for Team USA in Four Nations. But in his 11-year career, he's only made the playoffs once with Detroit. Oh boy. And that was 2016 with that loss to Tampa. He had a goal in that series.

That was a long time. That's 10 years ago.

Long time ago.

Yeah, that was the last time the Red Wings made the playoffs, right?

Yeah. What do you think about this power move here by Larkin, Dave?

Look, you can't blame him. He's following in the footsteps of guys that have seen success doing it. Matthew Tkachuk, obviously tons of success getting out of Calgary. So far it's worked out pretty well for Quinn Hughes getting out of Vancouver. Uh, honestly, I don't really have a problem with players taking control, what control they have over their careers, which isn't a lot. So if you're going to let them negotiate that into their contract, you can't really complain about it after the fact, right?

So they are taking the NBA's, uh, route to this as far as player empowerment with their own careers.

Look, I think that's a good blueprint to follow if I'm the players. I— not necessarily going to be the best viewed in the big picture, obviously there's going to be people that are going to have issues with it. But if I'm a player, yeah, you want to have as much control as you can. You could get, you know, you could— whole life could get uprooted. You get traded at any time. A lot of those things can happen. So if a player can actually have a little bit of control after— as I say that in my head, I'm like, yeah, but he did just sign a deal for $8.7 million every year. That doesn't give him, uh, he's not a free agent until 2031. He made that decision. But look, at the end of the day, what would you do?

Yeah, this isn't the most surprising thing necessarily. I mean, Larkin has gotten a taste of what it can be like, right? He won a gold medal last year, was a key contributor, I thought, on the Four Nations team and the Olympics team.

Yep.

I think you look at that USA locker room, I think Pete Blackburn tweeted something out about you look at Matthews, Hughes, Kachuk, now Larkin. Something was going on in that USA locker room with discussions about the power that they have to take control of their futures in the NHL and all of these guys now are kind of trying to take control and say, look, I'm going to go where I want to go and I'm going to be in the situation that's right for me. And I'm not— just because I'm under this contract, I have control over my future. I can decide where I go. And Larkin, he's going to have options. There are tons of teams. I've been trying to think of the best teams that could be fits for Dylan Larkin. There are tons of teams out there that could be a great fit for Dylan Larkin.

Jeez.

Yeah, we'll be— maybe after the show we'll talk a little bit about some of the top destinations that I think could be for Dylan Larkin. But After every, every team, every team could possibly soon on social media.

Come on, Ethan.

Coming soon to, uh, I had that like, what is that, like the DreamWorks, like the old VHS tapes, you know, at the beginning they would have the preview. In a world where Ethan doesn't shut up, coming soon, he comes on your television. Uh, no, Dylan Larkin, every team in the league would want a player like Dylan Larkin in my opinion, and he is a, you know, top 6, top 6 center um, on a playoff team, and it's time that he goes and plays playoff hockey somewhere, and he clearly doesn't feel like Detroit is the place where he's going to be able to do that.

All right, next season's NHL All-Star Game and Skills Competition will be February 5th and 6th, hosted by the New York Islanders at UBS Arena. And the NHL has released its new All-Star format. They have decided to do away with the divisional round robin that they've done in the past few years in favor of an international-style round robin. The teams will be Canada, Finland, Sweden, the United States, and a world team.

You do the air quotes. World.

World team.

Thank you.

Russia, whose roster will have players from countries outside of the other 4 teams. The rosters will have 9 skaters and 2 goaltenders playing 3-on-3 for 5-minute mini games. The top 2 teams will play in the 10-minute final. With the players on the winning team receiving a $2 million cash prize. As far as the skills competition is concerned, please make it be good. It's probably not going to be good. But anyway, on the— I mean, you have 10 players under 25 years old. That's one caveat right there. 10 players under 25.

And they do a shot after every event.

No. Damn. All 10 will compete in fastest skater, hardest shot, pass the passing challenge. One-timers, stick handling, and accuracy shooting. The top 4 after that will compete in a shootout versus one of the All-Star goaltenders, and the top 2 will compete in an obstacle course finale with the winner taking home $1 million. So the NHL continues to tinker with its All-Star Weekend. Did I see fastest skater? Yes, fastest skater is going to be the first one as usual every single year. You know, it's the usual.

Well, yeah, empty the tank. Yeah. You want to have a full tank for the fastest skater. You want to get that out of the way.

So what do you think about these changes?

Look, I think what jumps out at me, you kind of air quoted it when you rushed, but I think that's the big thing that people are going to be paying attention to. Uh, after Bill Daley and Gary Bettman did their State of the Union address earlier this week in Carolina, like that was a big thing that came out of it. Uh, look, Four Nations was awesome, but it was Four Nations. There was one that was missing. If they— if there's such an importance of getting the Russian players involved, then they shouldn't change the All-Star format. Because if you just do a regular All-Star format, it's not country by country, it's team by team. When we were in Toronto a few years ago, Nikita Kucherov is probably the reason why the skills competition is now for 25 and under.

Ha!

So, that's a good point. No, but like, that's something that I'm very interested in. I think a lot of people globally are interested. The fact that, you know, Finland, Sweden, and Chechnya have all threatened to boycott any international tournament that Russia is allowed in as long as the invasion or the war against Ukraine is still going on. We don't need to get into the political element of it, but when talking about this story very specifically, there are some of the best hockey players in the world that are being held out of these tournaments. For whether or not you feel like it's a good reason, it's something that's very prevalent right now. And I think the NHL is kind of dipping their toe into the conversation by having this kind of a format.

I mean, the other thing about this, by the way, if Alexander Ovechkin does play one more season, he would be able to play in that All-Star Game with this, uh, world team.

So, well, that's— but that's assuming that— because like, look, for the international tournaments, those three countries I mentioned, Sweden, Finland, and Chechnya, have all said that they're gonna boycott if Russia's involved. Well, and their player— like, the NHL has pulled players. They— last season they pulled a lot of players internationally who said they had that same problem. So if the US, or if the NHL decides to allow the Russian players into this world competition, which it looks like they are, Is anybody else going to have a problem with that?

I mean, there are going to be players from Czechia. David Pastrnak will be one of the players that will be on Team World most likely, and he will be playing alongside Russian players on Team World, right? As will a guy like, I think, Juraj Slavkovsky comes to mind, right? A guy from Slovakia who will be playing on Team World. I think the bigger issue here is it's just the same thing as the All-Star format. They're just trying to slap flags on it to get these guys to actually care. I don't know that it'll work. I think representing their country, obviously we've seen over the last 2 years, means a lot to these guys. But in this kind of format, I don't, I don't know that it'll do anything. I think the skills competition featuring the young guys is a great idea because it gives kind of a chance to shine for guys like maybe a Leo Karlsson or Bedard or Celebrini that might not get the shine as All-Stars. They'll get— I mean, Celebrini would obviously— they'll get the shine in this, you know, shootout competition and at least even if it's lackadaisical and boring, at least it gives them somewhere to feature the young talent in the game, which is taking over.

If it's lackadaisical or boring, Roy, at least it'll take a while.

Yeah. And no Nikita Kucherov.

Is it like 5 hours?

No Nikita Kucherov. Nobody to boo in that situation. It's time for Puck Luck, sponsored by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Dave, go ahead.

All right. A little, a little alternate lines for Game 2. We're going to start with Jack Eichel going over 2.5 shots on goal. Bounce-back candidate after no shots on 2 attempts in Game 2. Uh, he had 3 shots on 7 attempts in Game 1. He'll be motivated on home ice, so let's rock with Jack Eichel. Uh, sticking with Vegas, Ivan Barbashev over 1.5 shots on goal. He's on the top line with Eichel and Pavel Dorofeyev. He's been over in both final games with 8 shots on 11 attempts, so let's ride his hot hand. Uh, on Carolina, we're gonna go alternate lines. Taylor Hall and Jackson Blake both over 1.5 shots. Hall has gone over that line in 5 straight and 8 of 10. He's got 6 shots on 15 attempts in the Stanley Cup Finals so far. And then Jaxon Blake, he was over in 4 straight and 6 of 7 before getting no shots on no attempts in Game 2. He'll bounce back. He's also over that number in 4 of his 6 road games. The total odds on this bet, +500.

All right, there you go. That's puck luck. And now it's time for wins and fails. Go ahead, Dave, what's your win?

Oh man, keeping me busy. My win, my win of the week. —there was a TV—I don't know which TV station it was, I probably should have looked it up—but it was a TV station in Wisconsin that, fortunately for them, when they were watching Game 1 of the Stanley Cup Final, the only audio they got was the in-arena natural sound. I say fortunately for them because you're about to hear why it was so glorious. This is like the first 30 seconds after the puck dropped in Game 1. Listen to how awesome this was. Yeah, it sounds so cool. It does sound cool. And then they went and scored a goal. Here it comes. I think— yeah, here we go.

I have to post it in.

I love that. I live for that. Like the fan reactions, those amazing moments in arena that you feel part of.

Oh, there's no sound better than that ping and in followed by the goal horn. It is the purest sound in the world. As a fan that came off the post. As a goalie, not so much.

My winner of the week as a dad, this is a big one for me. Ke'Andre Miller and his girlfriend Addison welcomed a baby boy named Cashden. That's their first child. And immediately after the Hurricanes won the Prince of Wales Trophy, Miller brought out Cashden, sat on the bench, held him in his arms, and just soaked in the moment, tears in his eyes. Carolina Hurricanes going to the Stanley Cup Final, and it was partly because of him, because he played excellent defense in that game. I thought it was cool, a man recognizing the moment and enjoying it with his brand spanking new son. Good on him.

Awesome. Brought a tear to my eye.

Yeah. Uh, Ethan, what you want?

Uh, guys, it happened again. Paris Saint-Germain won the Champions League for the second year in a row. Dembélé hit the penalty to even it up. Rose, what you win? In regular time. And then the game went to penalties. Turn this mic off. Gabriel scored a penalty. PSG won the Champions League for the second consecutive year. The celebrations were—

Okay, fade that. Thank you. Rose, what you win?

Sorry, bud, but that's my gimmick. We cannot have two.

No, making Roy mad is our gimmick. It's a combined gimmick that you and I do to make Roy mad.

Actually, my win, you're not going to like it either, but I just want to bring it up because Diego Jota. Oh my God.

God, what is—

what is football for you? He died. Oh, okay.

Come on, Roy, like, come on, dude.

This is your win of the week.

He died last July and Portugal is bringing him as a plus one, so if Portugal wins, they are giving, uh, part of the money to his family.

All right, there you go. That's a win.

That is a big win. Yeah, so, um, that's why I want Portugal to win, maybe, because yeah, the family— he left two kids and a wife.

So is there best player still No, not Ronaldo.

Their best player is Vitinha or João Neves, both of whom play for Paris Saint-Germain, who won their second consecutive Champions League this year. They took the trophy to Roland-Garros. They were in front of the Eiffel Tower. It was incredible. Nuno Mendes, left back for Paris Saint-Germain, also plays for Portugal. Ninja also plays for Portugal. So a lot of Paris Saint-Germain ties in the Portuguese department. Luís Campos, our sporting director, is also Portuguese as well.

Okay. I'm cheering for Portugal. As well as the United States. That's good on them. Send the money.

You got sucked into the soccer conversation.

Yeah, I had no choice in the matter. Zero choice. I just think it's beautiful. It's obviously my fail there because I did not know that that was going to happen with Rose. But I— Yeah, sorry, I should have told you first. Yeah, that would have been nice. You should have told me a lot of things before the show. Yeah, I know. Really, obviously.

Dave, fail. Yes, I just witnessed one. My fail, we talked about it before, Braden McNabb took a slapshot straight to the face. Nikolai Ehlers' shot from just inside the blue line, a slapshot that was clocked at 87 miles per hour, appeared to catch McNabb in the bottom of the visor, which went down and chopped up his nose pretty good. It looks awful. Uh, there's a lot of things to break down from this play. We can start with Nikolai Ehlers missing the net, over the net by like a foot. These guys are like 6 feet plus tall, the net is only 4 feet tall, and that puck was nowhere close. The second thing was Eric Robinson on the Hurricanes looked like if we can play that again, he's almost using McNabb as a human shield. Yeah, like he almost ducked his face behind McNabb's face. Uh, there's just so much to break down from this. At the end of the day, hopefully McNabb is okay. Like Ethan kept saying last night, he probably would have been back in the third period if they didn't have to take him to the hospital, because hockey players are toughest son of a bitches in the world.

Uh, but there's just a lot to process from that. And the one thing I'm taking away, you know how when they innovated board— the glass on the boards at the end of the bench to curve, to curve it instead of having the sharp edges?

Yeah, Max Pacioretty got injured by Zdeno Traore because he pushed which is facing to—

it always the right angle of— to that 90-degree angle. It always has to be something bad that happens before we get the change. So I'm thinking maybe this— they're going to start innovating in some way the bottom of visors to be curved so that way if they get pushed into your skin, they don't cut your skin up and it slides off somehow, whether it's some kind of a rubber— I don't know, but there's got to be some kind of an innovation.

And this is going to lead to, uh, my favorite of the week is the Jack Adams— Jack Adams Award. John Cooper won the, uh, Coach of the Year And for as many times as Cooper has been nominated for the Jack Adams Award, this first win feels surprising to me considering the year that the Sabers had, right? So let's take a look at the official numbers here. The award was voted on by the NHL Broadcasters Association on a system where first place votes equals 5 points, second place votes equals 3 points, and a third place vote equals 1. Cooper had 36 first place votes, to Ruff's 26. Ruff had 26 second place votes to, uh, Cooper's 12, and Ruff had 15 third place votes to Cooper's 10, for a final point tally of Cooper having 226 and Ruff having 223. Dan Muse came in third with 199 points thanks to his 18 first place votes, 29 second place votes, and 22 third place votes. I can understand the first place votes from yous. The Penguins should have been in last place this year, they just, they overachieved and made the playoffs. I can understand that, but really, I, I, I just don't understand because Buffalo won the division over the team who's coached by now the Coach of the Year.

It doesn't make any sense why Lindy Ruff did not win this award. And keep in mind, 14 other coaches received votes 14 other coaches received votes. It just does not make any sense to me. And I saw a report from Elliott Friedman saying that 40 members of the NHL Broadcasters Association did not even return votes. They abstained. That's bad. That, that, that, that's ridiculous. Lindy Ruff got cheated out of the Jack Adams Award.

He's the new John Cooper. Yeah. He got a Lifetime Achievement Award in the year that he didn't deserve it. It's crazy. There we go. It's not the Oscars. Yeah, but, you know, he got— yeah, he got the Leo. He won his Jack Adams the same way like Leo won for The Revenant, right? Like it wasn't a movie he necessarily deserved it for, but he had to get one eventually, so they gave it to him.

Rose, what's your fail?

My fail of the week goes to this guy up there because his own goal on his own net gave us overtime. If he didn't score on his own net, we wouldn't have had overtime.

That would be Jacob Slavin.

Yeah, Jacob Slavin. That's my fellow of the week.

Who's the coach of Vegas? Rose, who's the coach of Vegas? John—

Oh, John Tortellini. There you go.

OK, that's great. OK, before we go to break, I just want to mention the NHL Award winners, the other winners that were announced. Zach Wawrinski has won the Norris Trophy. For best defenseman. Cole Caulfield has won the Lady Bing Trophy and Nick Suzuki has won the Selke Trophy. Now I have a gripe and I can add this to my fails list because Sidney Crosby. Oh God. Had one single vote. It was a first place vote.

I want to know who did that. I'm just curious. Everybody's allowed to vote how they want. I'm very curious who did that.

Roy, I need a name. Yes, Rose, it was not me. I don't even have a vote for the Selkie. That's the other thing. I'm a part of the Professional Hockey Writers Association. I'm only voting on the Masterton. When am I going to vote on these awards?

I thought this was going to be your year.

I thought so too. I need to— we got, we gotta— Steven Weinberg.

Yeah, we gotta— we know who we need to talk to.

Yeah, but yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me. Sidney Crosby getting a vote. A, a vote. A solitary vote and it being a first-place vote for the Selke Trophy is mind-numbing.

Is there a diving trophy?

There you go. 9.0. 9.0 for embellishment for Sidney Crosby. Doesn't make any sense. If you're watching on the DraftKings Network, stay tuned because you can watch this on YouTube. Please subscribe to The Hockey Show DLS. Nick Alberga is coming up. He works at Leafs Nation. He's coming up next.

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Big Al Burger is the host of Leaf Morning Take on Leafs Nation, and we're gonna, we're gonna laugh at the Leafs today before we talk about the Stanley Cup Final.

The guy is a Leaf guy and you're like, yeah, we're gonna laugh.

Like, I mean, I can afford to laugh at the Leafs. I'm sorry, Nick, but we have to. We have no choice.

Thank you for sticking around, Nick, after that amazing introduction.

5 seconds. That was, uh, incredible stuff. No, I'm happy to join you guys anytime you guys need me, and, uh, whatever you guys want to discuss— Stanley Cup Final and certainly the Maple Leafs, the topic du jour. Once again.

Absolutely. And, uh, we have you on retainer for that. Uh, but before we, uh, do get into those topics, Rose has a question. Rose, go ahead and start this thing off.

Oh my God, you're gonna let me start that? Are you watching Off Campus?

Yes. Oh my God, 1,000%.

Uh, she should not have started with you.

I told you at the end, but wow.

I haven't seen the finale yet, just Spoilers, I have— I've seen all of them except for the finale, just FYI, because we're doing it week by week. We're doing 2 episodes a week.

So your one question was to ask Nick— Yeah, that's why I said at the end.

What did you think it was going to be?

I thought there would be a follow-up or something regarding Off Campus.

No, no, that's why we can talk about it at the end. You can keep going with Maple Leaves because people want to hear about that. Off Campus can be the last minute.

Okay, all right, fine, fine, cool, sounds good. I'm very happy starting this interview with that. So the Vegas Golden Knights and Carolina Hurricanes are now playing in the Stanley Cup Final. They are split at a goal apiece. That brings us back to how things ended for Mitch Marner. He was blamed for his lack of production in the playoffs, okay? And he kind of suffered because a fan doxxed his home address. That was one of the main reasons why he decided to leave Toronto. Uh, he feared for his family's safety. But now that he's in Vegas— uh, by the way, he had 13 goals in, uh, 63 playoff games, 63 playoff points for the Maple Leafs. He performed. But I guess it was further down the line in the playoffs where they actually complained about Marner's performance. But now that he's in Vegas I mean, he's lined up for winning the Conn Smythe Trophy in his first season there. How, how are Maple Leafs fans taking this, Nick?

Well, firstly, I got to clarify, if somebody is doxxing somebody's home address, they're not a fan. They're a psychopath, right? I think it's so easy to draw parallels and be like, oh, Leafs fans are psycho. Every fan base, guys, has psychos. These are not real fans. They're crap human beings. So I want to put that out there. I don't want this to be a conversation that every Leafs fan is doxing Mitch Marner's home address, but unfortunately that's been the narrative out of the Marner camp, out of Toronto. Okay, so that's the first thing to clarify. Number two, I think two things can be correct without question. As somebody who has covered the Maple Leafs for a long period of time, has been a fan of the organization for a long period of time, Mitch Marner was MIA in the Stanley Cup playoffs for the most part. He really, really struggled with the pressure of the market, certainly was not the same guy that he is in Vegas. So I think two things can be right. He didn't have his best moments in the Cup playoffs with the Maple Leafs, and he's been awesome here with the Vegas Golden Knights.

And I completely agree with you. I think right now, following two games in this Cup Final, and I know Brett Howden's making some noise, got 13 goals now. I think Marner's got to be the front runner for the Conn Smythe Trophy. But I think when you look back at his tenure, I think Leafs Nation in general a little annoyed, a little perturbed, a little pissed off why that didn't happen in Toronto. But I think it's fair to bring up that this Golden Knights team is very well-rounded. Their blue line's outstanding. The goaltending has been really, really good. And for as good as those Maple Leafs teams were in the past, at least in the regular season, I think there's another layer to this Golden Knights team. And there's a reason why they're 3 wins away from another Cup here, guys.

I think it's unfair a little bit just because Marner's getting a lot of the attention, but he's not the only Leaf— former now— but Leaf superstar who's struggled in the playoffs year over year over year. He's just the guy who's the spotlight's on right now. He's succeeding in Vegas. I— it's just— I mean, I'm— are you surprised at what you've seen from him in Vegas, or is it more of an indictment on what he left than where he's at, where he is now?

Probably a bit of both. Like, the other name I like to bring up is Phil Kessel. Yeah, who suddenly left Toronto and then boom, 2 Cups with the Pittsburgh Penguins, one more later on, clearly at the end of his career. But I think it's probably, to answer your question, probably somewhere in the middle. I think the support wasn't there the same in Toronto. I thought they're a bit top heavy where you look at this Vegas roster. That's the one thing I'm blown away with, guys, is, is the depth. I mean, the Nick Dowdens of the world. We just talked about Brett Howden, the Barbashevskys. Like, there's just so many different layers to this Vegas team. And I mean, honestly, watching Marner here in the Stanley Cup playoffs, and it's, it's been a close watch for a lot of Leafs Nation just to see how he would fare here with Vegas. He looks free and easy. The pressure's off. I think the support system is there. He can play his game and, you know, I think do a lot of the great little things that makes Mitch Marner such a dynamic player and one of the best players in the world, period.

So I think the answer is probably somewhere in between, to your point, where I think you look at his time in Toronto and I think we always have to be careful. And I'm always curious, like talking to people stateside about what's being said about Mitch Marner. And it's funny because a lot of it's Canadian broadcasters that are maybe not watching the Maple Leafs on a daily basis and I think have lost sight a bit of the narrative where the conversation up north, a lot of it is attached to Matthews, Tavares, Riley as well. But for some reason, People love to say that everybody's pinning everything on Mitch Marner. That was never the case. I think those core guys have been put together and that was always the case in Toronto. And I think for every, you know, bad moment or heat that Mitch Marner has taken, I think it was amplified by things that happened behind the scenes that the common fan who is not a Leafs fan wouldn't be privy to. I mean, we can sort of leave it at that, but there was a lot more to the Marner conversation than was let on, at least in the public eye.

So the Maple Leafs have a new general manager, John Cheka. They have a new advisor in Matt Sundin. Um, Cheka has a bit of a sordid past with the Arizona Coyotes, and good on Steve Simmons— and I can't believe I'm saying that— uh, but good on Steve Simmons for holding him to task about that. And of course they fired Craig Berube. So what do you think about the front office shakeup for the Toronto Maple Leafs?

It has been a dream, guys. I was really, really wondering. Let me clarify. It's been a dream because as somebody who's been covering a team that's been in the Stanley Cup playoffs for the last decade and specifically doing Leafs Morning Take for the last 3 and a half years, I don't know if concern's the right word, but I was wondering how the hell we were going to generate content. On a daily basis with no playoff hockey in Toronto and no locker cleanout day and no Game 7 loss. And day after day, it's been news story after news story. I mean, even going back to the trade deadline, I'm sure we'll get into the Matthew Nyes conversation momentarily. But like, Brad Treliving was fired, then there was a whole GM search, then the new GM comes in, Matt Sundin's brought back into the fold in the organization, then they fire Craig Berube. The coaching search continues. The Nice conversation continues. Like, there's been so many moving parts to this thing. I'm holding judgment like you, like many others. I wondered why John Tchaika— I sort of came out of nowhere in that whole search. And I think even dating back to the press conference with Keith Pelley, who runs the whole operation, used a lot of business terms that the conventional hockey fan is not familiar with.

So I still wonder long term how all this is going to fit. I didn't mind the change to move off Craig Berube. I think he's a really good coach. Having said that, watching the team this season, they gave up on the guy in like November. I truly believe the Maple Leafs were a much better team than they let on. And then I didn't even mention yet that they won the draft lottery. Like, that was the cherry on top of this entire conversation, that they somehow find a way going from, oh crap, Boston's going to get a very high draft pick to the Maple Leafs outright winning the draft lottery. So from a content standpoint, it's been awesome.

So you kind of led me into what I wanted to ask you about with the Leafs winning the draft lottery. Obviously, probably, certainly gonna go for Gavin McKenna there, but how much does that change things? Because like right before that happened, we're talking about Auston Matthews maybe being on the way out. We find out now that Matthew Knies almost got traded at the trade deadline, so maybe he's somebody that could be on the way out. So how much does Gavin McKenna potentially change things in Toronto from where it was like a week or two before that lottery ball went their way?

At the very least, it gives them a marquee asset, like assuming it is Gavin McKenna, and I'm led down the road where it's probably going to be a Gavin McKenna prolific profile for X amount of years in Canada specifically. Like I heard about Gavin McKenna 5, 6 years ago. It just shows you to what type of status he had coming up in the hockey system playing this past season with Penn State. But I think at the very least it gives them a marquee asset, which I think has been lost in the shuffle of this entire conversation in this market right now. It's like, what are they doing? Are they retooling? Are they rebuilding? And it really feels like they're going the retool route, à la what Boston did this season. But then you look at Boston, it's like they were out pretty quick. So they made the playoffs. And I'm a firm believer if that's— if that's your goal is to make the playoffs, you have lost the plot. Considering 2 years ago was about winning a Stanley Cup. But I digress. I just think you look at, you know, what's ahead. They really lack the assets.

And that's why I think you're hearing a name like Matthew Nyes floated out there. And I think bringing in a Gavin McKenna does not hurt considering the next 2 years the Maple Leafs don't own their 2 first round picks, although they got a first rounder from Colorado next year for the Nick Watchray that was put together prior to the deadline. So that's probably the way I would look at it. It gives them a marquee, marquee talent. I'm not saying that Gavin McKenna down the road, if he is drafted, is going to be dealt, but it gives them another asset to stockpile as they move forward here and decide what they want to do. And to your point about Matthews, I still think there's a lot of gray area. On July 1st, he's going to be 2 years away from UFA status. From what I understand, I think right now as we have this conversation, he wants to be a Maple Leaf, is excited about being a Maple Leaf. But I think there's still a lot of gray area as to what his future looks like. And certainly I think you look at this offseason, you know, the Larkin news coming out, more hoopla from the Nyhs conversation.

Vinny Trocheck's name's out there. Brady Tkachuk is a name that was bandied about earlier in the offseason. Maybe Halibut's out there. Maybe we just see outright fireworks. So I think anything is possible right now.

I'll say that. All right. So what is the most important position of need for the Toronto Maple Leafs and who would be a great fit for them? Gabi outside of— outside of that obvious answer.

Thank you, Dave. I think the blue line is something they really, really want to address, which I think is so interesting because a year ago, it's just funny how it's like revisionist history where it's like they have this pitiful season. And a year ago, their, their back end and their goaltending was like the backbone of the operation as to why they got to Game 7 against your Florida Panthers. And all of a sudden it's like, no, we got to reimagine the entire blue line. I mean, if in a perfect world you're bringing in a couple of pieces, you know, Morgan Rielly has been with the organization for, I think, 14 years now. And it seems like we're headed down a route where Morgan Rielly is going to be moved on. He's got a full no movement clause, so he'd have to exercise that right, which it sounds like that won't be an issue. I think he's open to the possibility of moving on as well. So I think that's probably the one thing aside from, as you guys mentioned, getting Gavin McKenna and complementing that top 6, if you will, especially something they've lacked since losing Mitch Marner and never really replaced him, is looking at that blue line and finding ways to improve that blue line with a couple of different pieces here.

All right.

So we saw what happened last night. We saw what John Tortorella did. Did you agree with the challenge?

I thought it was weird. And I should preface by saying nobody in their right mind, including myself, has any clue what is or isn't goaltending interference in this league anymore. But watching the replay and I think the broadcast specifically I was watching was confused by the player who was identified. Like, I think, you know, it was more the jab. And I wondered about as soon as I saw that, I'm like, is Tortorella and the coaching staff in Vegas seeing the same replay because right away when I saw that again, the consistency has been off with, with what is and what isn't goaltending and goaltender interference. As soon as I saw that, I'm like, it's unlikely that that goal is going to count. And I think it was a risky proposition. It was probably calculated from Vegas like, hey, we potentially could win the Cup if this goal is allowed. Like, I truly feel like if Vegas goes up 2-0 in that series, it's over. And then you look at Carolina's struggling power play. So from that perspective, it made a lot of sense. And, you know, that's been a big story, we'll say, with Carolina in the Rod Brind'Amour administration the last 10 to 15 years is the power play and the offense runs dry at the most important time of the year.

Like we've read the statistics, we've gone over them when it comes to the conference final and their struggles there. Well, they scored 2 massive power play goals last night, guys.

Rosie, go ahead with this off-campus piece. Yeah, sorry.

In 60 seconds, what do you think about the show and what's your opinion on the show?

Captivating is probably the best word I would describe it. It's cheesy. I mean, I must preface by saying somebody who loved Mighty Ducks growing up, like that trilogy is my 3 favorite movies of all time. I think D3 is very underrated. Yes. So watching— yeah, I agree. Watching, watching Off Campus, I think it just It was very captivating in how it was put together. Cheesy in the whole storyline, but you really get sucked in by the sex and the drama and the narrative and the storylines. Like, it's, uh, suck, I guess it's good. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of sex in it, rightfully so. Yeah, but I, I thought it was good and I thought it was a nice little quirk. I don't know if you guys caught it the other day, Gary Bettman, his State of the Union address, brought up that he's actually watched the show too. That's, that's cool.

He's watched every show. He's watched Heated Rivalry. Yeah, I, I, I'm Cleveland Shenanigans on that one.

I don't know where you— that's why we're watching, uh, season 2, because you see everybody—

no, you're watching season 2.

No, no, no, all of us. I think it's a, it's a great— like, I know the hockey— like, people— Roy has been saying like, the hockey's not good, the hockey's not good. Yeah. And then in the comments they're like, hey, can this guy know like, this is not a hockey show, this is a Roman show. I'm like, to be fair with him, he's talking hockey and I made him watch because of hockey, but, um, I did not tell people that.

So Nick No, the discussion, the discussion that they had in-game while the puck is in play, talking about they're not going to get the puck back, they're not going to get the puck back, they're not going to— that's not going to happen in a real game. What are we doing?

Come on, Nick, does this guy deserve to be captain? Just come on.

He's not a captain. He's so soft. No, no, he's a piece of junk, man. Honestly, they gave the captain to the right person later. Like, we don't want to give away too much for folks who want to watch it, but I thought it was very Mighty Ducks-like. If you guys notice, there's like 6 actual players that play and they play every shift. I'm like, these guys are logging quick use minutes right now. That's what grabbed me. So it's not really— you know, hockey is obviously part of the story, but it's not really about that. I think it's about romance. And I'm curious to see what couple they tackle here in season 2.

Oh, it's got to be Dean and Ally.

Yeah, they announced, right? They already announced it.

Yeah. Renewal. Oh, OK. Did they? OK, cool. Good stuff.

That's great. Nick, just real quick, D3, so underrated because it's got the best hockey action of all the Mighty Ducks movies. And that's kind of what saves it, I think, because the hockey action in that movie is actually really good. Really good.

Don't get me started on Mighty Ducks. It's funny you bring that up because I reached out to like Goldberg, whoever the— the actor who plays him. Yeah, Sean Weiss. It's an interesting conversation on Instagram. We'll leave it at that from a couple of months back because I'm like, this guy was a legend. And I was like, maybe I can get him on my show, but decided not to go down that path. But I would say just to wrap up the drafts coming up, I thought that was a cool added quirk. Last year I was in LA for the draft and it was the Anaheim Ducks who had a couple former Ducks, uh, from the movies announce their pick, which I thought was really, really cool.

Yeah, I like that too.

Nick Alberga from the, uh, from Leafs Nation, and they are having a field day up there in Toronto, I can tell you that. Nick, thank you for joining us.

My pleasure. Curious to see what the Panthers do here in the offseason. It's so weird to see no playoff hockey with the Panthers. Hey guys, thanks for having me.

The most enjoyable playoff segment time Leafs fans have had in a while. Like, when have they ever been this happy in May? In June? Good point.

Yeah, good point. Tony, you know that moment at a party or a tailgate where everything just sort of clicks? I know it well.

It's usually when I show up, everybody goes crazy.

Yeah, you usually take all the credit for it, but it's because Tony usually walks in with Cuervo. I walk in like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuervo is the thing that turns hanging out into this is the night. It has that effect on people. It does. You usually take the credit for it, but again, it's the Cuervo Effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hooting and hollering, "Keep it Cuervo!" Keep it Cuervo, baby!

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They are making their 8th Kelly Cup appearance, looking for the 5th championship as they play the Kansas City Mavericks.

David, they're like the Patriots of the ECHL. They're in the final every year.

Yeah, it's just that they're doing a— they're doing good stuff out there in Estero.

Yes. And hopefully this week, uh, coming up later this week, we're gonna have an interview with, uh, play-by-play voice of the Florida Everblades, Jake Maurice, Paul Maurice's son. Uh, big hockey guy. He's been with the Everblades for a few years and, uh, I believe we're gonna be interviewing him. So look out for that on our social media and YouTube and all that good stuff.

The joke was there was a potential that, uh, Jake would win a ring before his father.

He did win a ring before his father. And that is actually true. Now they're competing with who has more rings. Yeah, I think they're even now. I think the Everglades won back to back.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They did win back to back and they could win the 5th championship in the Kelly Cup coming up here this week. All right, Rose, off campus. I finished the season. I've watched all 3. I saw it after— Good job, bud. The 3 that I had left, I saw it after the watch along. Um, I went to sleep at 2:30 in the morning.

I deserve a thank you. Well, you— I don't know what you watch. You needed to watch 2.

Yeah, you didn't have to do that. No, dude, I wanted to be finished as quickly as possible. I saw there was one episode left. I decided to watch it.

All right, that's what— that's— no, I think what happened here is— I think what happened here is Roy was actually kind of interested. Yeah.

And he watched it. No, Roy was not.

He watched episode 7 and he was like, oh, this is good. I gotta find out what happened. So I don't know what you are talking about.

I just—

all right, you're the one that stayed up until 2:30 watching. I don't know.

So I can stop watching, that's why.

Uh, it doesn't make any sense.

I don't— yeah, how does that not make any sense?

You just watch it at a normal time.

Watch 2 episodes, I can be done with it.

Do you remember your— are you going to remember what the final is? You're going to have to like kind of— I don't remember anything that I watched. Well, uh, before we start, uh, this is episode, uh, 6 6 and 7, which I was a little bit surprised. Like, well, they gave me Allie and Dean. I didn't know they were gonna give me an entire episode for them because they're season 2. So they took a lot of things that I wanted for Allie— no, for, um, Hannah and Garrett to have. Like when they say, I love you, I'm like, ah, come on, give me something, give me more.

They've been dating for like a week.

I love you.

No, no, time lapse.

For a while. Uh, yeah, a whole semester.

Okay, a month, a semester. Oh, Well, excuse me.

Well, they fall in love and they had to fall in love because there's no right amount of time.

It is the— there's no right amount of time to say you love love.

Don't you love— yes, I love love.

If you love somebody, you love somebody.

You tell them when you get married.

One of the most— I love you, Roy—

things about one of those two episodes that I saw— God, you guys are wild. Have you ever, in all your years of watching hockey, whether it's in National Hockey League, whether you're going to a minor league game, whether you're going to a kid's game, in all your years of watching hockey, have you ever seen a player in the tunnel from the locker room to the bench making out with his effin' girlfriend while the game's going on?

Dave, I— listen, go listen to Bruce Boudreau's appearance on Spittin' Chiclets. I think it was a couple years ago. There were a lot more things than just making out going on in the locker room back in the day. But there's cameras that could get them.

That's my point, dude. Do it where no camera is gonna see you. Don't do it in the freaking tunnel where the fans are looking down on you doing it.

Yeah, this is very—

I don't know what you guys—

same way, you guys, or somebody is making out with his wife in between periods and then goes out. That would be kind of dumb. Like Graham had in that game.

Like, no, no, it was a sweet innocent kiss.

I don't know what you guys expected. Did you guys expect this to be some like cinematic hockey experience?

Or it's a show that involves hockey?

Yeah, it's very much the background. Like it's just the setting here, right? Like it's just the setting. The setting is hockey.

No, it's not just the setup.

No, it's a romance story. It's a romance show that involves hockey. Same with Heat of Rivalry. I don't know what you guys expected.

Drafted by the Bruins, NHL ready. That's who he's supposed to be. It's all about hockey. What are we talking about? Nice. 7 minutes.

It's a romance show.

And we are just talking about the same thing we did in episode 1, 2, and 3. Hockey? What do you think about—

what happened in the episode 6 and 7?

I thought episode 6 was great, Rose. I love Allie and Dean. Like, I love how they tricked us at the end of— it was at the end of episode 5, right? They trick us. Oh no, no, that's right. At the end of episode 5, they tease that Allie and Dean are together in New York, right? And then episode 6 walks us back through how it actually happened. I loved it. I thought it was awesome. I thought the scene where he's in the, in the bathroom with the sex toy was hilarious. That was a very like— that was probably the funniest moment in the entire show.

No, and I loved it. The only thing is I'm like, they gave us a lot that now I don't know what's gonna be in season 2 because like the falling in love, I wanted to see the falling in love.

So I think, um, I mean, when I said real quick, no, it's not really quick.

Did somebody make up their mind before the series started that the girl who plays Ali, like, they're like, I like her, I want her to be naked in every episode? Because I feel like they're showing off that girl's Yeah, every episode wants that.

And actually, she, she just broke up with her fiancé.

She did basically the same thing she kind of did in the show, which is she's like, wow, I'm off campus with a lame and an ugly, and I'm not gonna be with a lame and ugly anymore because I'm really hot. And so she broke up with her fiancé.

That's not— that's me.

I mean, that's kind of what happened in the show, right? He— her boyfriend was not really exciting enough for her, and she realized she wanted more, and she wanted more exciting things, and she wanted She wanted to be more ambitious and she went out there and found a fling.

That was— me like that on my own.

All right, let's move on to episode 7.

What happened episode 7? Oh my God, I cried.

Episode 7 was intense. It was very intense.

And, and like the way they did it, like it's, it's a very sensitive topic, but I think they did it in a great way. Like they didn't have to show you like kind of the trauma, but you could feel the trauma with her acting. I know you, you don't think she acts very well.

I didn't say anything about that.

She's good at crying. Yeah, so, but you can feel it and you can see like, uh, bouncing around the feeling of, hey, I am powerless. And right now, like, I'm so sorry for bringing this, but there's a lot of accusations, like, hard. So having that in the show and being like, hey, we're gonna put it in and the way they manage it and everything. Because in the end, in the show, the kid, uh, they didn't do anything to the kid. He got—

he got the shit beat out of him.

Oh, that's the other thing, by the way, the hockey aspect of this. And we complained about this. Yeah, Darren is not a good captain. He is not a good captain.

No, I don't know, that guy was being an ass and he beat the shit out of him.

He's fighting with his teammates. He's putting division in the locker room. Instead, the long-haired guy is like, he's, he's the captain. He's the one that's like bringing everybody together.

Just wait, Dave. Just don't get ahead of yourself.

How old is who? Garrett. In real life? No, no, Garrett.

In the show, he's a junior.

He's in college. He's only 20, 21.

And when you fall in love at that age? I— yeah, okay.

But I'm talking about on the ice. I'm talking about as a captain, not as a romance guy.

Yeah, but that's why he's gotta get it, like, in the fights with his friends, which actually also leads me to the conversation he has with Logan. They should have showed that. Which one is Logan?

Uh, the long-haired guy, best friend. But yeah, yeah, with the sister.

Yeah, yeah, he's the mechanic.

He's the best guy on that team. I, I haven't seen any skill because they don't show what he does on the ice very much, but I feel he's like my favorite player on that team, I think. Yeah, him and the guy that bleeps everybody.

We already know what happened with Garrett, so him telling Logan that— I mean, we didn't really need to see it. I mean, we needed to see him actually telling him back and then moving on to the next.

No, because you want that vulnerable, uh, conversation that you know it's coming.

But looking at what they did, you know, uh, cinematically—

girl, I wanted to add that.

Okay, you want— you wanted them to compete over—

yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, the, the hey opening up him to his friend and having the conversation, hey, my dad is beating me up. Yeah, yeah.

Well, cinematically, they— I think they did the right thing, fading out, uh, fading, zooming back on it, because we know he's having a conversation now with him. We know that now. So cinematically, yeah.

Me as a girl, my heart—

and then you let on, dude. I have no choice.

I'm not criticizing. I'm impressed by what— like, you, you really did pay attention.

I'm telling you, he likes the show. And I don't like the show.

I do not like the show.

If you didn't like the show, you would have just gone to bed, but you wanted to You wanted to find out how it ended, so you watched the 8th episode last night.

Ethan, he got to see the 4th episode. I have to watch the show for this show.

I'm just saying. Now he doesn't have to watch one.

You didn't have to watch the last episode last night, but you chose to. That was your option.

I chose to so I don't have to watch it. 10 minutes in.

Next week. Oh, you're gonna have to watch it.

You're gonna have to remember. I'm not watching this again.

I have one more thing that I wanted to get to before we're done. Ethan, do we have it? Yes, we do. I'll play it right now. I didn't show you this yet. So the Carolina Hurricanes, right? Their broadcast booth— hold on, where is it? Where is it? God, I have it right here. Okay, so they have a booth cam. They have a booth cam. Their play-by-play guy, so like Doug Wiggins and Trent Kruse. No, but watch, this is— they've done it multiple times. This is from last night, but watch what they do when they score. They— they're— it's like you and me in the press box. They start beating the shit out of each other. Yeah, play it, Ethan, please.

Towards back up top. It's Costas Barrick.

Send it across. Game over! Seth Jarvis wins it! Oh my God!

Yeah, I think he did too. All right. How— wow. They've been doing that for like every big goal. They're throwing punches. They're knocking each other down. It's— I love it. I love everything about it.

Really knocked Tripp all the way back to the end of the room. Geez. Thanks for everybody who watched Game 2 of the Stanley Cup Final with us last night. Uh, the next game, uh, Game 3 Saturday, we're doing it all again. That is tomorrow at 8 o'clock on the Lovett Hart Show YouTube page and The Hockey Show YouTube page. Please check it out with us as we watch along Game 3 of the Stanley Cup Final. Remember to subscribe to The Hockey Show YouTube page, @TheHockeyShowDLS on TikTok, @TheHockeyShow7 on Instagram and Threads. @hockeeshowdls for Jason, for Ethan, for Rose, for David. My name is Roy Bellamy. We will see you tomorrow for the watch-along.