Transcript of CHRIS COTE'S EPIC ANY GIVEN SUNDAY MONOLOGUE | Local Hour New

This is the Dan Levator Show with the Stugatz Podcast. Ah, we did it everyone, we made it to Friday. Give it up for Friday everybody.

Good job, good job Friday.

How about that?

Good job Friday.

Look at this crew we got here today. We got Roy and we got Jeremy and we got Chris and Mike and Tony. I think this crew's worked together before. And we got Dave who is out there on the West Coast. Hello Dave Dameshek.

Oh Zazz, breaking news. It's not just Friday. School's out for summer.

I've been in the graduation circuit recently. I think Dave has been in the graduation circuit recently. We will get to that. All right, I've got to tell you though, I like— I'm jealous of Dave. When Dave— like, Dave's messaging me last night, you know, and I'm just— and we're all watching the hockey, right? And I'm just thinking myself, like, I'm, I'm struggling to stay awake here. I'm on the couch in the Zazzle Mansion family room in my underwear. Couch is so uncomfortable, but I'm on the couch and it's late, and Dave's 3 hours behind us, like wide awake. Just, the hockey game ends, right Dave? The hockey game ends and then you make yourself dinner, right? Is that the way it works?

It is the greatest enduring concession that the East Coast has to make for the West Coast. You know, women have to, you know, there are debates about like the virtues of like, I'd rather be a guy, I'd rather be a woman because of these reasons and those reasons. You know, like, I got to wear high heels every day, man. What a pain in the ass that society sort of asks me to do that. And the powers above have given me a period and the other gender doesn't have to do that. This is the same thing. You guys, man, what— that is some baggage you have to carry every day of your life as sports fans.

Mike, we're going to get to the hockey. Hockey was good last night, man. The hockey was good. Mike, do we have any kind of update? You've seen I've been wearing for the last couple days. I'm wearing my, uh, get the hell away from South Florida and the University of Miami Michael Yormark hat. Uh, get it wherever hats are sold.

Yeah, do we wake them up there, Zazz?

Do we? Well, yeah, I mean, sometimes people fall asleep in the middle of big meetings, you know. Uh, Mike, do we have any kind of real updates on the UM athletic director search? Because I, I, like, I know there was an update Barry Jackson put out on Twitter a couple of days ago But the update was something you said like 2 months ago, that the Canes have essentially found the reaction to Michael Jörmark, who it really seems like was about to be hired, that they found the reaction, they were shocked by it, the negative reaction, and as a result they have pivoted off of Jörmark and they've opened up to other candidates. It's like, Mike said that 2 months ago. Do we have any kind of real update now?

Yeah, we do. And I think more credence to what you just said about Michael Yormark having really made a lot of progress in getting that job until his name leaked out. People would be surprised to learn that Miami is in no rush here, that this search is still very early in its process. It's not going to be this expansive search. I've been able to confirm 3 names that are in this mix. I would believe that Michael Yormark is out of it. I haven't heard much about it. Has to be about it lately. Jeff Purinton, a former AD, now working for Learfield. Brian White, the brother of Danny White, who is a former UCF AD and family, current Tennessee AD, and has done some— his brother has done some good things. This is a lot like the Brett Yormark, Michael Yormark situation where one brother is a little bit more accomplished in the world of college athletics. But I mean, you know, Brian White, his first hire was Dusty May. And I know that he has a lot of interest. I'm not sure how much interest Miami has in him. I don't think Miami is looking for a conventional AD, which would probably be a favorable thing for Jim Favola, the current head of business ops.

He gets my vote at Bournemouth.

What he's doing, for those that don't know about soccer, especially Premier League dynamics, what Jim Favola has been able to do at Bournemouth is nothing short of miraculous, not just from a business sense, but also bringing stability to a yo-yo club, getting a stadium deal done in that part of the world takes a lot of politicking and a lot of expertise.

He's got experience with very big organizations. Vegas Knights, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Dolphins, UFC.

What he did with the UFC in Vegas, with the hockey team out there is also super impressive. So you have a guy that has shown that he can adapt and you're going to need to adapt in this whole new world of college athletics. So out of the names that I've heard, and full disclosure, I've known Jim for 20 years, I've always wanted him to be Miami's AD. I've always thought he'd be perfect. So hopefully he's the guy. Um, but, um, I, I'm just glad that we don't have a Michael Jormark situation anymore. That seems to be behind us.

Yep. Do you feel like you played a role?

I mean, in letting people know that Michael Jormark sucks?

That's what I mean.

Yes, I, I definitely, I definitely played a role saying, what the hell are we doing?

Good. I feel like I played a role.

Yes, you did. Yeah, you did.

I'm proud of that.

A lot of people that were actually aware of Michael Jormark's reputation here— like, this wasn't like some weaponized organized special forces politicking behind the scenes thing. All we were doing was bringing Michael Yormark's actual rep— his reputation locally into the light.

Yeah, that's right. Keep your snake oil out of South Florida. You are not welcome back. So speaking of Hurricanes, hockey was good last night, Dave. Oh my goodness. You know, the Canes winning last night, I guess, you know, if you're a hockey fan, we're Panther fans who don't like the Hurricanes, so I'm rooting for the Knights, although not hard because the Knights are not very likable. But the Canes winning last night is a good thing. It essentially guarantees us more hockey. It guarantees this will be a longer series as opposed to a shorter series. But man, like— over here! That's right. But man, Vegas is up 2-0 with like 10 minutes left in the game, and then the Hurricanes are just peppering— not Josh Hart, Carter Hart. They're peppering Carter Hart. They eventually get the pair of goals, but then we get the big controversy last night, and I'm interested in what you guys think. I'll start with you, Dave. So it's, it's a 2-2 game. There's like 5 minutes left maybe, and you have a, a, a scrum around the crease, around the goalie, and eventually the puck trickles underneath the goalie into the net, but the referee— and please speak up if I'm recounting this incorrectly— the referee immediately signals no goal, no goal.

Now, we thought when we're watching the replay on television, and the broadcasters, they thought so as well, that it was ruled no goal because the whistle was blown. But when you watch the replay, it's pretty questionable if the whistle was blown before the puck actually crosses the line. So Tortorella, the coach of the Knights, he challenges, but we learned then what he was actually challenging was the goal was called no goal on the ice for goalie interference. So they're challenging the goalie interference. Dave, looking back at it now, because the interference— the call on the ice stood, the Canes went on the power play because of delay of game, they scored, They took the lead 3-2 with like 5 minutes left, and here's the quote from John Tortorella. Why he challenged. 'Cause the risk-reward was enormous. I saw a loose puck in front of Freddie. Our player stabbed it, didn't move the goalie, and it goes through and went to the other side. I'd challenge it 10 out of 10 times. That was John Tortorella on the failed challenge, which did lead to, at the time, a power play goal. Now Vegas would score with the empty net with a minute to go to tie it, but the Canes did win in overtime.

Uh, Dave, what did you make of the challenge there? What'd you make of the controversy?

First of all, thank Jesus the Canes won that game. It would really suck if it was heading back to Vegas for the Knights, who have no business even being there. And Tortorello's inclusion in all this is a bad look for the sport of hockey. I feel like the entire regular season is on the cusp of being invalidated. By John Tortorella of all people. Feh! I get it, I agree with Tortorella's decision given the stakes in that moment. If it is a good goal and he challenges that and they win that one, now they're heading back home with a 2-0 lead and probably, or not, or have a good shot at least of hoisting the Cup in Vegas in a few nights from now. I'm sorry to be a curmudgeon, I hate the stuff that our eyes can already tell us, and now it's a point of strategy in a game that the coaches, the teams must, must, uh, treat whether or not what our eyes can tell us already. With the officials, we have to— again, we have to be delicate with these officials. They're people after all, and their feelings matter just as much as the rest of ours do.

Why, why would it be a strat— well, if I do it, I might get a penalty. That's a ridiculous thing to be including into a major moment in the final of a major sport.

So I'm torn on whether or not I'm good with Tortorella challenging there because part of me is, okay, the reward is rather enormous because they would, you know, uh, go up 3-2 in that spot. They would take the lead late in the game and the risk, okay, you get a penalty which the Canes ended up scoring on, but The Canes' power play has been miserable in the playoffs, right? So if you're Tortorella, you'll— if you lose it there, you probably don't feel like you're gonna give up a power play goal. 'Cause again, the Canes' power play, they can't even get shots on goal. So I'm a little bit torn as to whether or not he should have challenged there because I'm watching the replays, oh, it's goalie interference that they're challenging here? There's— Mike, there's no way though. I don't know if it plays a role because the game was in Carolina. There was no way they were overturning that call on the ice. There was no chance.

I kind of felt for Marc Messier, and I don't know if you guys saw that intermission. Messier was really—

I didn't see, but everyone was saying like he was off his rocker. What'd he say?

Well, he was like a dog with a bone. Like, he just refused to acknowledge the construct. Like, he didn't have a legal leg to stand on, but I kind of understood what he was trying to say.

So he thought it was a goal?

He was trying, like, he's like, all right, I, this should be a goal. Like if we're actually playing this thing out, I know the whistle and the goalie and the intention to blow a whistle, which is a phrase that Roy reminded me of, which is—

You like that phrase?

It's not just the whistle blowing, it's the intention to blow a whistle.

I meant to blow a whistle!

Play's over! Yeah, I get where Messier was coming from in that in other games, this is a goal. You know, that it's not like it was earlier in the game. Well, if the stakes were different, if it was on the road, if it was a different crew, like, I don't think you could—

they were never overturning that.

I don't—

that I agree with. And they also had the rulebook in their favor once they decided to blow the whistle in the fashion or intended to blow the whistle in the fashion that they did. But I did kind of feel bad for Marc Messier in that he should have just capitulated. He's like, look, I get what you're saying. But also it's a goal. The best comparison I can make is in soccer when they go to VAR and you see a guy is offside by the toenail. What the hell are we doing?

Is there any part of you that is tired of Messier on the broadcast? Because I mean, certainly for me, you go back 2 years ago with the Panthers and Oilers and like every game it was so apparent Messier just wants the Oilers to win so bad. Like, like that, that, that got annoying for me as a Panther fan a couple years ago. I do really like the ABC/ESPN broadcast because I think P.A. Subban is excellent. Uh, but anyway, I— that game last— that game last night was awesome. And, and for people like myself, I gotta raise my hand because I, I said it, this is gonna be a poorly rated series. I do, I do mention the caveat, who cares? Like, if you're a hockey fan, who cares if it's a poorly rated series? But nonetheless, these first 2 games have been incredible. Game 1 was incredible. Game 2, especially third period, then it's overtime. Absolutely incredible. I'm way dialed into this series. I love it. I love it.

Zazz, I do think, you know, Mike Fuentes sent me, texted me not a half an hour ago that amidst Stanley Cup Final, NBA Finals, all that's happening in baseball, Shohei Ohtani continuing to prove himself to be the greatest baseball player in the history of peace, a history of people. What's ESPN talking about right now? The Dallas Cowboys ne'er-do-well wide receiver George Pickens. It does matter. I don't like, generally speaking, the rolling discussion about the ratings as though we fans should— you're right.

Like, why would we care? You're right.

But I do think if you care about the NHL, if you really are, you know, a longtime supporter, Roy and I, like, you kind of feel like you got to drag it into the limelight a little bit. And that's why I said what I said 5 minutes ago. About this being a bad look. I feel like this is a throwaway season now. Could have been something special with the Avs and those great teams that they were up against in their division, and the Canes were a legit team, and there's some luster, you know, the Sabers would have been a great story. Instead, this is the mess we get. The best thing, the salvaging thing that would happen here is that the Canes get over because they were a real good team and deserve to be in this spot.

Look, I'm a hatin' ass hater. And I wasn't thrilled to see either of these teams in the Cup Final because I'm applying my Panther bias. These games have been great.

Great.

Game 1 was spectacular. A load of fun. This game was more cagey, even though you got some goals. You had an all-time third period. There have been great moments. These two teams are very tight. And as far as the ratings go, Game 1 was the highest-rated Cup Final game since 2019.

Why is that?

Well, not all the Cup Finals have been on network television, so that is an added boost. But it's irrefutable that people tuned into this Game 1, which did a great job of maintaining the audience because that was great action. And I'm into this Cup Final. I wanted to watch it as a hater. And during that third period, I couldn't help but be drawn into it. That, that is a— it's a strange venue because they don't own it, right? That's a college basketball venue that they are leasing and it still provides this crazy atmosphere, Dave.

From—

you guys obviously steeped in what goes down in that region. I'm surprised it wasn't a bigger deal, or was it, and did I just not catch it where I was, that when the team from Hartford, the Whalers, with the iconic logo and all that, they moved down there, whatever it was, a quarter century ago, down to somewhere in the Carolinas. I still couldn't tell you what town— Raleigh is where they are, as a matter of fact. I just thought of that.

Yeah, you're an REM guy. They're from that Raleigh-Durham area. That's right. REM just ascended to such great heights. Greatest American rock band in some people's opinions, Dave.

Well, Athens, Georgia is where they're from specifically.

Yeah, but that was a college radio station corridor that they just dominated.

I mean, it's not a controversial take to say that REM is the greatest American band. It's a stupid take. But okay.

Tony, you know that moment at a party or at a tailgate where everything just sort of clicks? I know it well. It's usually when I show up, everybody goes crazy. Yeah, you usually take all the credit for it, but It's because Tony usually walks in with Cuervo. I walk in like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is the night. It has that effect on people. It does. You usually take the credit for it, but again, it's the Cuervo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hooting and hollering. Keep it Cuervo! Keep it Cuervo, baby. Summer always hits different once the big games start stacking up. Now you've got finals games on every other night. Baseball's rolling all week, racing on the weekends, and suddenly everybody's looking for an excuse to get together. The other night, a buddy texted me, "We've got the game on, come through." I figured I'd stop by for maybe an hour. That was optimistic. Next thing you know, everybody's locked into the game and we're all part of the coaching staff. Somebody's yelling at the ref, somebody else is suddenly an expert on pitch strategy, and nobody's even pretending they're leaving early anymore.

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Don't let me talk. I've never stepped foot on that campus. I— if you told me right now, your life depends on it, go to Santa Fe University and just, just, just take a picture.

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Listen, I see you want to derail this, but I am curious. Were you guys steamed? Talk about iconic in the southeast of sports America, the Miami Hurricanes, and then this team moves down from the New England area, or whatever the hell you would call Hartford, Connecticut. They moved down there and they claim the name Hurricanes?

No one identifies— you're a backyard? No one identifies the Hurricanes with Carolina. No one.

Like, it's Miami. But it's an outrageous move nevertheless.

Nah, I don't care. Don't care.

But I will say, in the meager defense of the Carolina Hurricanes, they do get much more landfall over there. They get battered by those things.

Can I also tell you though, It's, it's, it's an interesting point Dave brings up because it's not the first time that they've done that to us. The Carolina Panthers came after the Florida Panthers. So they get new teams and they just look at South Florida and decide which one of their names can we take? I mean, if they get another team soon, I don't know what sport, maybe baseball, right? They're gonna be called the Heat or the Marlins. Carolina Dolphins. Well, no, they take from the different sport, you know, like their football team took our hockey. You're so right. Their hockey team took our football.

Well, and then it's easy, right?

Heat for baseball.

Yeah, they get a baseball team, they're going to be called the Carolina Heats.

Kind of dope.

That's some bullshit.

Terrible. Would you be offended if they went even like another fish? If they went with another creature of the sea?

No, no, no.

Dolphins, it feels like kind of, you know, is there another worthy creature? Sharks is pretty good, I guess. You wouldn't be offended if they were the Carolina Sharks?

No, there's lots, there's lots of sea monsters. Pick one. Well, no, no.

Any given Any Given Sunday, we had the Miami Sharks.

Yeah.

Wow, terrible movie.

Terrible.

What are you on about, bro?

What do you want about that movie?

Is incredible. Uh, okay, hold on a second, Mike. I used to think so too. When's the last time you saw it?

I literally saw it 4 months ago.

Okay, I saw— Dave, uh, real quick, Any Given Sunday, good movie or terrible movie?

I'm thumbs down, but I will say if you ask actual NFL players, they love it. They think it's pretty accurate. It's about off-field stuff, at least back when house parties were house parties.

All right, so who do you want to listen to on any given Sunday? Zazz and Dave Dameshek or actual NFL players? I'm a mo—

I want to listen to a movie guy. I'm a movie guy.

No, this movie rocks. And how would that take me? I'm not even— I don't get mad when you say that it's bad. The fact that it's bad is terrible. No, it's not terrible. The fact that it's bad is part of the appeal.

I was on the field. His eyeball.

Yeah, Lawrence Taylor cut Willie Beamon's car in half. He cut it in half.

I like to think all team doctors are that way.

That movie came out in what, like maybe like '99, 2000? All right. And I loved it. What a movie. All right. About 4 or 5 years ago, my older son at the time, he was like 12 or 13. I'm like, hey man, I got a great movie for us to watch. We're going to watch, it's a football movie called Any Given Sunday. You're going to love it. And so me and my son, we sat on the couch in the Zaslo mansion family room. We put on Any Given Sunday. About 30 minutes in, I turned to him, and I could tell he's not really enjoying it. About 30 minutes in, I turned to him, I go, "This movie sucks, right?" And he goes, "Yeah, this movie sucks." And we shut it off. It's a t— it does not hold up. It's a terrible movie.

It does hold up, because if you're an Al Pacino fan and you just want to see unhinged Al Pacino, he delivers.

You don't support women in power.

I like to think that every time my dad goes to a bar to pick up a single lady, he is James Woods in that film.

Put it on the poll: does Zaslav support women in power? Juju, please. Uh, Any Given Sunday is a terrible, terrible movie that does not hold up.

You didn't even get to the best part, which is the end when he says he's going to Albuquerque.

The speech is good.

It's a retirement, and he's like I'm taking the job down with the expansion team in Albuquerque. And like, no one— everyone's shocked by that. And then he also acquired Willie Beamon, and everyone's like, whoa, what a turn.

Okay, wouldn't that be part of what makes the movie terrible? Is that— oh yeah, how does that— how does, how does that news slip through the cracks? The '90s, that the coach breaks the news at the press conference, and on top of that, there was an eye on the field.

What are you talking about?

The owner Cameron Diaz, she was like happy with it. Oh, he's so kooky, our coach. Yeah, how about— what a move.

How about Oliver Stone in the booth? Yeah, that is some ass.

Oliver Stone and Barry— was Barry Switzer his color guy?

Yeah, Barry Switzer was there.

I don't know what to say, really.

Movie's terrible.

3 minutes, the biggest battle of our professional lives.

I've never seen this movie. Oh wait, let him do the thing. No, I've never seen Any Given Sunday. Jeremy, play out.

He's getting—

he's just getting warmed up.

All comes down to today. Either we heal as a team or we are going to crumble inch by inch, play by play, till we're finished. We're in hell right now, gentlemen. Believe me. And we can stay here and get kicked out of us. Or we can fight our way out, back into the light.

We can climb—

we can climb out of hell, one inch at a time.

Yeah.

Now I can't do it for you. I'm too old. I look around, I see these young faces, and I think— I mean, I made every wrong choice a man can make. I pissed away all my money. Believe it or not, I chased off anyone who ever loved me. And lately, I can't even stand the face I see in the mirror. You know, you get old in life, things get taken from you.

I think you need a little bit more Pacino. Yeah, to get it over the line.

On this team—

there you go—

we fight for that inch.

On this team, we tear ourselves and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch because we know when it all adds up, all those inches, that's going to make the fucking difference between winning and losing, between living and dying. I'll tell you this, in any fight, it's the guy who's willing to die who's going to win that inch. And I know if I'm going to have any life anymore, it is because I am still willing to fight and die for that inch. Because that's what living is! The 6 inches in front of your face! Now I can't make you do it.

That's what she said.

You gotta look at the guy next to you. Look him in the eyes. Now I think you're gonna see a guy who's willing to go that inch with you. You're going to see a guy who's willing to sacrifice himself for this team, because he knows when it comes down to it, you're going to do the same for him. That's a team, gentlemen, and either we heal as a team or we will die as individuals.

Wow.

That's football, guys.

I'm surprised you read everything perfectly.

That's all it is. Now what you going to do?

And you don't like that movie?

Why is that better than that?

The scene's good. That scene doesn't make the movie.

Uh, it's up.

Homoerotic. Yeah.

It's a good scene. Willie Beeman starts inching closer to the coach when— as he's talking, that means he's into it.

He's watching Ben Hur and invites Willie Beeman over for dinner. How awkward that is, man.

That's so great.

I like—

in front of your face.

By the way, they're uniformed to the team they play. The team they play in the Cowboys Stadium looks a lot like the Golden Knights to bring it all together. Uh, Willie Beamon though, in the critical moment—

what a player.

Um, he makes about an 85-yard run, you know, in the way— because that's what you do, you, you call running plays when you're— when you need a touchdown and you got to go 80-some yards, you, you run the ball and, uh, you're with your quarterback. And Willie Beamon eludes roughly 37 would-be tacklers on his way to the end zone. Just can't— one, one by one they come at him, sort of like when the karate master— they don't, they don't do the group thing like, let's just all get him at one time and then he has no chance against us. No, no, one at a time they go at him. The defenders do one by one. Each, every 7 yards or so, another defender makes his way in front of Willie Beamon, only to be cast aside by the, by the moves of Beamon, number 13.

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Dann lebe taaard! John, can you rate my Al Pacino from that billiard scene in Carlito's Way if I do it for you? I think it's pretty good.

Yeah, okay. Stugatz!

You think you're big time? When you're gonna die big time. That is on my infamous scale of 1 to 10, that's a, that's a 7.6.

Solid. Good job.

Good job. That's a Sui nominee right there.

Good. This is the Dan Levatar Show with the Stugatz. How about, how about homeboy last night who eats the puck right to the face? Raytheon McNabb in front of the goal. Let me tell you that. Do we have an update on him? Do we know what— like, is he alive?

Do we know what's going on?

He went to the hospital.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did. He went to the hospital.

He has no anymore.

I would bet my life that he plays Game 3.

The slow motion of him just like—

it really is like the perfect shot because the puck, you could see it goes under the visor, like the trajectory of it, it perfectly goes under the visor and just nails him on the nose straight Flat face, on the nose.

Yeah, his nose is completely smushed in and went to the left.

Uh, you know, these guys are warriors, alright? We know this. And I'll tell you, like, remember when we played the street hockey tournament, which we were terrible at, the Panthers?

One, we weren't even wearing skates, right? Just running around in Skechers.

The street hockey tournament a couple months ago, Roy and me and Chris, uh, Gabe. Remember how good Gabe was? Uh, Rose.

And not so much David Drouin, the goaltender.

And, and I got to tell you, like, early on, because I've never played real hockey before, I've never played ice hockey and I've never played street hockey, and so I'm out there and once you realize, oh, and we're not playing with a puck, we're playing like a rubber ball, but you're standing in front of the goal and this rubber ball is coming so fast from, from slap shots to the nets and you're standing in the way there. I— it was scary.

My shin still hurts from eating one of those.

I don't understand how these hockey players do it. I really don't. And Mike's right, homeboy's gonna play Game 3. He's gonna play.

Full cage, I bet.

He's definitely going to— I mean, remember when Zdeno Chara broke his jaw? Okay, I'll just play with a cage next game, you know? Like, this guy is going to play next game.

Yeah, Chara played with a jaw that was wired shut.

Yeah. And lifted the Stanley Cup.

Right, and like, we were for, for, for 4 days we're wondering, oh my God, can Mitchell Robinson play with a broken pinky? Right? Like, how is that even a question if Mitchell Robinson— now maybe he was always gonna play, but how was that ever even a question if Mitchell Robinson was gonna play with a broken pinky? This guy just had his face smashed. He's going to play Game 3.

Do you remember that time Zedino Chara did a Zoom interview with his bed in the background and there were leather straps hanging from the bedpost?

I don't remember that.

Yeah, Google it.

That sounds amazing. Uh, you know, you watch it just to know that that's amazing.

It's a prime cucking situation for you.

Take that however you want to take it.

Okay.

Uh, Mike, we got a new episode of Morally Abhorrent, uh, World Cup soccer podcast later on today.

Yes, coming up later today. Uh, thank you for the feedback on our US men's national team preview that we did with Tom Bogert of The Athletic. This episode that we're dropping today is an entire World Cup primer for those that are looking to dive in headfirst and get brought up to speed. Chris Whittingham returns to Morally Abhorrent and we preview each and every group, each and every team, make predictions, say who's getting into the knockouts and who's the winner, what's the semis, who's the Golden Boot, who's the Golden Ball, who's the young player of the tournament. Whitty is spectacular. It is really hard to do an entire World Cup Primer in an hour and be entertaining, and he was awesome. We nail it, so please listen to Morally Abhorrent today.

Cool, alright, there you go. I want to mention something from earlier in the week that I just hadn't had a chance to get to. It's a little bit of a somber note, but I think everyone's gonna be okay. So a few days ago, the original radio voice of the Miami Heat, Dave Halberstam, passed away at 74 years old. He had a battle with brain cancer, apparently. He had been for a very long time after he was with the Heat, he was an executive with Westwood One. Uh, but Dave Halberstam was the original radio voice of the Miami Heat. Not the Heat's inaugural season, because a lot of people don't know the first 4 years of Miami Heat basketball, they had a radio-TV simulcast. So the first year on the radio, Sam Smith was the play-by-play. Years 2, 3, and 4, Eric Reed was the play-by-play, even though it was— he was a television guy. So it was a simulcast first 4 years. So the first ever Heat radio broadcaster radio voice came in the Heat's 5th year of existence. And for 6 seasons, I believe, from '93 to '98, Dave Halberstam was the radio voice of the Miami Heat.

And I was such a huge fan, like, as a kid, huge fan. He, he was like a wordsmith, you know, his vocabulary, which is super, uh, a, it's important, but also it's kind of a thing of the past where like your radio voice is this guy who has just an unbelievable vocabulary and can describe the plays to you. And I I felt like every single time— granted, I was in my early teenage years then— I felt like every time I listened to the Heat broadcast on the radio, I was learning new words. I was learning new sentences, new ways to describe things. He was such a joy to listen to. You know, now if it's your favorite team, you want to be able to watch the games on TV. Like, okay, being able to listen in the car if you have to miss some of the game, that's cool. But I remember back then I used to like if I had to hear some of the Heat game in the car because I was able to then hear Dave Halberstam, who he did it solo. It was, it was just him if I remember correctly.

I used to get to hear Dave Halberstam call the games. He, he was so, so great. And I got to meet him one time. It was like, like 20 years ago. I got to meet him one time when he was an exec with Westwood One. Came to Super Bowl Radio Row. And I do want to point out, though, the video images that are being shown on the TV is from David Halberstam, the author, not Dave Halberstam, the Heat radio voice. You don't want to confuse the two. But we do have that very poignant slow zoom because this David Halberstam, the author, he may be alive for all I know, but that is not Dave Halberstam from the former Miami Heat broadcast.

That's $5, Lewis.

Uh, but anyway, uh, yes, I just want to push in on all of them. Listen, Zazz, I hope it's not a thing of the past to start where, uh, you started, because, you know, you know, the players matter, the— of that generation, and the uniforms matter and all that kind of stuff. But man, do the roots sink deep for fans, especially young fans, when you have the everydayness. Baseball, probably number one, but man, You spend a lot of your nights, for better or worse, with these cats. So yes, you do. If they are good, they become something in your life. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, I would shame the devil if sports fans of the 21st century have moved past the need for that, because that relationship you have is one of the most important things that makes you a diehard sports fan.

It was a great tribute until we showed the wrong Dave Halberstam. I was proud of that.

Who's dead, by the way?

I thought you were excellent. Oh, so that Dave Halberstam's dead also?

That's a good thing.

Do you have anything else to say about him?

We're somehow—

are we happy about that?

Yeah, we should not be applauding a dead man. Well, I just love that the photos make it very obvious that he's a writer. Like, that is not— that is not the workstation of a— stacks of paper on the desk.

He's writing.

My father and I, though, we, we loved listening to Dave Halberstam.

RIP to him and, and the author. And the author as well.

And the author, David Halberstam. Both of them just tremendous work that they both did in their time here on Earth. There you go. Anyway, so Dave, you and I both have been experiencing this recently, right, where it's graduation season. It's— we're into June, everyone's graduating. You went to a 5th grade graduation.

I was at— That's right, they do those now, and they count as graduations somehow.

Right, right. I was at an 8th grade graduation last night. My son now going to high school, which is crazy. We have two boys in high school. Big jump. They'll be in the school together. That's very cool. I am wondering though, like, do we have— Tony, if I were to ask you, you seem like someone who's good for this.

Thank you.

For the kids who are graduating, I feel like you can give good advice.

I would give great advice.

What to do for the next step. The next step of your life.

I feel like you could give good advice.

Like a graduating senior.

He's from a graduating class.

He's moving into the world out of high school. Do you have advice for the youths out there?

I do.

I do have a lot of advice for the youths. Do you want me to do it as a commencement speech? Do you want to do it as kind of like an older brother kind of thing?

Like, what's your vibe?

Do we have the robe and that hat?

Oh, do we have—

No, it's ubiquitous now.

The cap and the gown?

The robe and the hat. Yeah, famously Conan talking to Harvard and executives up there giving their commencement addresses and mentioning AI and getting booed. I think we need that look.

Do we have the robe and the hat open?

Well, why don't you finish it all off with like a scroll?

You knew what I meant. Get out of here. Everyone in the audience is like, yep, knew exactly what he meant.

Dave, what— excuse me, Tony, what if at first it's like—

Also, I found out I got to the bottom of the Dave Halberstram tribute. It's Chris Cody.

Little on me.

Oh, I want to hear this. I— because if I could say something real quick, I feel that's the second time I've done this recently. The first time where it's— oh, oh, it was a few weeks ago when we were talking about that snake oil salesman Michael Jormark, and we were showing pictures of Brett Jormark the whole time, and I had to point out— I feel bad when I do that. I don't want to correct the video people. They work really hard. I don't want to do that, but like, I had to, I had to do that.

They are twins, right?

But like, here— when we're showing the completely wrong David Halberstam, I had to say something.

How could I know there's two Dave Halberstrams? How could I know that?

No, no, no. The winner here is Roy. That's who I want in the foxhole going forward with me. Roy was— whoever said it, they said Roy got the wrong video, and then the camera went to Roy. Did he say a word? Did he say, "Wasn't me"? No, he didn't. He wore it. It. That's a teammate. That's, that's what you want in the foxhole with you. He didn't turn to his right and say it was Cody's fault. No, he just wore it.

Well, you know about falling on that sword?

I didn't even know there was a sword to fall on in that situation. I didn't know they turned to me. All I know is it's not my fault. It's definitely Chris Cody's fault.

Okay, I take back what I just said then.