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Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings.
Why are you listening to this show?
The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebatard podcast. I'm sorry. I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants, just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries.
If they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.
I've done it. And now here's the marching band to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar.
Not to get super local here, but I wanted to ask Roy a question, because, Roy, you're not in the hockey group chat, which, by the way, androids are not the enemy anymore. I think you need to get that straight to people. But I was curious as to why I couldn't watch my Florida Panthers in game two of the regular season. There was no local television that I could see, and the ESPN app still blacked it out. Even though they're on the road and not competing with any local television. There is local hockey games on script. Sports, which is the CW down here, channel 39. I could not find that anywhere. Maybe I don't have the CW enough. But thank you, Roy, because the Panthers took a loss yesterday. It was two to one. They have the same record as the Boston Bruins. And I saw a note on the board, and I don't know if this was Billy being, you know, helpful, being supportive of the Panthers or probably right. Cause that's kind of your thing. You're a helpful cat.
I don't know what we're getting at, but I would assume helpful.
Well, and I'm a dog. I saw a note that says that Billy hates Panthers, but then it said hate, so it's. I guess it's. You hate Panthers hatred.
Yes, I do. I hate the disrespect and the hatred that's been thrown towards the Panthers this season. I'm not a fan of it. I will say this right now. 500 club. We're going to have to kind of turn things around a little bit if we want to defend Lord Stanley.
But hang on. We're going to get to your real specialty here, which is the bucket of death in a second. But you've clearly been on this hockey bandwagon since last year, but you say disrespect thrown their way. Where has that come from?
First of all, yeah, I'm not on the Panthers bandwagon to throw my credentials around, and it's. It's a strange flex, but I owned one of the Kevin Spacey Panthers hoodies. I'll have.
You didn't throw it away.
No, I did. No, I threw on one, Richard, but at the time. At the time I had one. So I'm a, I'm a long standing panther fan. I used to have a rubber rat at my house that I'd throw at the television, so I was. I was in it. I was there.
Are you afraid that you would damage your television?
I was a child. I didn't have a great arm. And so I'm here now. I'm a diamond. You know what I mean?
Anyway, any. Well, indeed. What is the process here with the bucket of death? Are we supposed to, like, call for the reaper?
I heard this is the Panthers hate that I'm talking about right here. We're just moving on to the Russia defending Stanley cup champions, and we're just changing the subject here. Like, this is exactly what I'm talking about.
There's not the perfect transition speaker.
Zero.
No respect for the Panthers. It was so, guys, I don't know if you've seen what's going on with the Panthers and the NHL in general.
What?
So they're here and people are saying that the Edmonton Oilers are the favorites to win the Stanley cup.
The Edmonton Oilers that wet the bed and gave speaker three.
Exactly right. The ones that just choked away the Stanley cup, all of a sudden they're the favorites. And I have this working theory that I want to run by you guys, and I tried to run by Royenne, but he was not in a receptive mood when I tried to run it by him, so I'll run it by.
Him less so today.
Really?
Why?
Because of the loss?
Well, technically, the Panthers lost twice last night because Alexander Barkov got injured. See, things I did not learn because.
I had two losses.
Was it in regulation?
Yes. He tried to break up an Internet goal and slid into the board. How serious are we talking?
They lost the battle and the war?
I mean, yeah, we don't know how serious yet, but we're going to find out soon. Wow. Yeah. That's two l's my point.
My point is that, and had it been overtime, it would have been just one, if my understandings of hockey is correct. So, regulation. Here's the, here's the thing. I have this strong belief that if the Edmonton Oilers and the Florida Panthers changed rosters, the Edmonton Oilers would still be the favorites to win the Stanley Cup. I think that this is a Florida bias and disrespect that is thrown the way of the great municipality, let's call it, of sunrise Florida.
Yes.
I don't think that people accept that Florida is the hockey state now.
So it has nothing to do with the difficulties of winning back to back Stanley Cups?
No. It has to do with the fact that people don't want to respect that. Florida and the Panthers are a hockey powerhouse right now, and they just want to give it to any other team out there. So they're doing it with Edmonton because they're like a classic hockey team. Whatever. Canada, blah, blah, blah. When in reality, the Florida Panthers, as we all know us hockey heads know, are a far superior team. And Conor McDavid, enough of this guy. We don't even need to go down this path again. Same old song and dance with him.
Should we call in Greg Cody for a visit or. I mean, it's up to you.
You're running the show today. I'm just here. I think he was keeping things moving.
He was probably pretty happy in that game one of the regular season because it was confirmed that it probably was already confirmed during the playoffs last season, but double, triple confirmed. So what is the price cut with the bucket? Is this okay? Is it okay now, Billy? Is this enough?
Have we spent the proper amount of time on the Panthers for Izzy to transition over to the bucket of death?
Are you up to you guys?
Are you satisfied?
Whatever you guys want.
I don't want you to feel disrespected.
No, I'm not. No, I'm not. The Panthers are the ones being disrespected.
Two losses huh?
Does it happen? Do you what? So what, are they one?
Are they one and two now?
They are one, one and zero currently, yeah.
Well, how's the two losses, then?
Well, Alexander. Bark off.
Bark off.
Oh, wow. The lights go down in here. It gets kind of red.
The reaper's coming.
Hey, there's the reaper. Wait, was the reaper talking? What are we doing?
Oh, it always starts as far as literally goes around.
It's almost as if I can tell.
You'Re never here on days we pull from the buck.
I got the Chargers. They were on a bike.
I'm here every single day. We do a bucket.
The Jacksonville Jaguars.
Jaguars are playing in London. Yep. Take it on.
The Bears winnable game is home field to win a game.
Yes.
London is home field. You know what?
Wow.
I'm sticking with the Jaguars.
Wow.
Gutsy, gutsy.
Sticking with the Jaguars home field advantage.
In London, I don't think about Eric Mangini saying how Woody Johnson was embarrassed to lose in front of all his friends in London and how that was the reason that he fired man genius Robert Salem.
Thank you. Well said, Tony. What did you say? Because you were trampled.
I said, doug Peterson may be staying in London if they lose to the bears.
Oh, wow.
They make patriot. There's this place of great burgers.
Oof. Not good.
Drake May.
Not good.
May getting his first good choice.
Might want to melt that one.
So last week, Jess is going in for a second helmet. I had the bucks with my first helmet, and I put it back in and took the Falcons. Kansas City Chiefs, they're on a bye. Congratulations.
I haven't lost in the bucket in, like, two years.
I think.
Look, you.
Probably, I haven't done a bucket punishment in two years, so that's.
Yeah, four years.
Don't worry. I've done it for all of you.
Let's see what this is. We've got the Le Rams. They're also on a bottom.
Keep it.
There you go.
Wow. Yeah. Well done, man.
They both have buys, and I have the Jaguars.
But you chose the jaguar.
I did.
One and a half back.
Yeah, but home away from home.
I mean, I got the Browns play.
The Eagles this week, and I must win it.
I think they're contracting, actually, Tony. They have to go to Jameis Winston at some point.
Some poo.
I got the Big Apple.
Oh. Any new, any New York team.
Yeah, I know. Yeah. I think about this.
Liberty in game two.
Take the Yankees.
All right.
I got game one of the ALC.
Liberty must win.
Billy for the N NFL. New York teams? Bengals and Bills, respectively.
What about the Mets or the Yankees?
Anybody on a buy at the Indianapolis Colts?
Looking at the MLS, they pay the.
Titans on the road. Winnable game.
No.
Roy, you also have put back a ton of winners. Let's not forget that.
The wizard of Oz. Tiger or bear. I have a question on this. Okay, so you got the Big Apple one. Correct, Billy?
Yeah.
So you have to pick a New York team. But what if one New York team is playing another New York team? A New York team has to win. Isn't that basically a buy for you? Do you have to pick one of those?
You gotta pick the New York team. Pick one.
I don't know. I think you should go with Bills at Jets and just call that game Terex.
Google Roy Tarik scruple.
I'll let you know in a second.
Well, I'm wondering, aren't the Giants off?
No.
No, they are not.
Bengals at the Giants. You're wondering.
Take the Giants, Billy.
Well, army plays at West Point in New York.
They did, yeah.
You could take army.
So I could combine this and the toy Fys.
Yep.
I think they might be a big favorite this week. I'm gonna go with army just because I love our troops so much.
Okay.
Write that down.
Also, a small other caveat. Also like the Enrique Iglesias one. Mark Anthony. I didn't know army and Navy were in the same conference. I was remembering army as an independent squad.
So they would actually play.
Yeah, they would actually play in the conference championship. I've been told before. They play first. Lots of playoffs.
Yeah.
And one and two on the long rummage.
Right now.
Makes sense that they're in the american athletic.
Blake Horvath and them boys. Watch out for the midshipmen.
The Browns putting it back.
You're telling me. You shouldn't melt that way.
Do I have to put it back?
I think they're contracted.
Does the helmet stay out?
Do I put it back?
No, you gotta put it back again.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Yeah.
You can actually pick it twice would be really bad luck.
Anyone but the brands, last time we.
Checked that, all the helmets are actually in there.
There's an inventory every year.
This every year?
Yeah. Yeah.
Not every week.
No. I mean, come on.
No, because Billy's got to put the good one up his sleeve.
How dare you? The Vikings, they're on a buy?
Yes. Wow. Yes.
This guy, Jeremy, it's not looking good for you. The odds are you are going, am.
I the only person who presently has taken an NFL game where there will be results.
Yes.
Yep.
Two buys. Army boy hasn't picked yet.
We got the Indianapolis Colts and former Gator who's not playing, right?
We don't know yet. He started practicing a little bit.
Let's see. I have no interest in the.
You want Flacco to play? Yeah.
You want Flacco to play? You want Flaco?
Yeah. Flaco's an upgrade.
Hall of famer.
He is. No doubt.
Ooh. Bo Nicks and the Denver Broncos.
All right. They host the Chargers.
Three point dogs.
That's an upgrade.
I actually don't hate that, Izzy.
I mean, I do.
Denver. Denver has a very, very, very good defense.
That doesn't really help me very much.
Tony doesn't hate it.
Should sue you.
Bo. Nick's three and two this season.
No.
And I'm sure. Who's got it better than the Chargers? Nobody. And they're coming off a bite, too. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're going to take that game. All right, I'm going to go with the Detroit Lions because everybody else sucks. The Detroit.
So you picked the Lions.
Cowboys young award winner.
Yeah.
Tigers.
Lions at the Cowboys. Three point favorites on the road.
Tarek Scubal, why would you pick the Lions?
Also taking the Clemson Tiger.
Yeah, I didn't have much time to look everywhere.
I was looking hockey.
I was looking at college.
You could have picked the Cubs that don't play until next year.
I mean, it's Roy's helmet. It's his choice. I wouldn't take the Tigers. Baseball's random, man. The Mets are four games away from making it to the series.
The Bruins would be the Bears in this situation.
Okay, what I was saying. Lions, Tigers and Bears.
Yeah.
The brilliance would be the Bears, just like UCLA would be the Bears in point.
Good bucket.
God damn it, man.
Come on, cow.
Bears could have taken your time on that. I was trying to take my time. And then you picked now. I didn't know there was a time limit you could have.
What's final now? Sorry. It's locked in.
Right. The jets are on a buy. Are they?
No, they're not.
The jets play.
The Bills play the first place.
I think we should do, like, a top five list of funniest outcomes during the Monday Night football game. One of them being Aaron Rodgers throws for, like, 500 yards and three touchdowns, and they look really good. Well, but then they go on like a ten game losing streak.
This is perfect. He gets the extra day to talk about the jets, and everybody's going to be watching, but Stu, Aaron Rodgers what he went on McAfee, and he said that he was unhappy, right, with the tone or that people suggested that he had something to do with the firing of Robert Salah.
He resents that the media and fans are speculating that he had something to do with the firing of Robert Salah. I don't care what he resents. I resent all three interceptions last week. I resent how he's played through the first five weeks. I resent the torn ACL last year. I resent him lying about the vaccine, whether he's telling the truth or not. Okay? Aaron Rodgers has put himself in a position where people are going to think he is the reason the jets head coach got fired. And if you're the jets, and I firmly believe this, okay, because Rogers has a conversation with Woody Johnson. Woody Johnson has never fired a head coach in the middle of the season while the season is going on. In his entire time owning the New York jets, he's never done it. So they have a conversation the night before. And then Woody Johnson, for the first time since he has owned the New York jets, woke up one morning and said, today's the day I am going to fire my head coach for the first time since I started owning the New York jets organization. I don't think you do this, okay?
I don't think you do think you fire the coach.
I don't think you fire the coach unless you're trying to beat the other organizations to one of two guys, Bill Belichick or Mike frable, because those two guys, and by the way, Aaron Rodgers, what is he worried about? Like, why is he worried about the resentment? Robert Sal is a bad coach.
So you're saying Woody Johnson, I give.
Aaron Rodgers a standing ovation for getting Robert Salah fired? Whether he did or not, and I believe that he did, I give him a standing ovation. But if you're Woody Johnson and you're headed in to one of the biggest jet games in the last ten years, a game for first place Monday Night Football against the Bills, why would you fire your head coach unless you're going after one of these two guys, which they're both going to be hired? I would guess before the end of this regular season, he wanted to beat the other teams to Mike Rabel or Bill Belichick. That better be the reason they did this.
So Woody Johnson started the season and said to himself, if the jets don't look great by a quarter, maybe a third away into the season, I'm going hard after Vrabel or Belichick I'm going to beat everybody else to it. That's your theory on the Jetse?
Yes. And Izzy, understand this. You have Robert Salah. They're headed it. Like the jets have had worse starts than this. Okay? It hasn't been great, but it hasn't been the worst, okay? And they have a game for first place. Why would you take the head coach away from that six days before the game unless you were going to make a major move? A major move. So maybe what, he sees how this game goes with the Buffalo Bills, but at some point he's going to be talking to Belichick or Rabelief if he hasn't done so already.
I just think you look at the situation and you see how bad the amounts of changes they made. The offensive play caller, you know, I thought Hackett was, you know, Aaron Rodgers guy, and then he gets sort of demoted in that sense. And you just looked at it and said, look, this is just a disaster. It's going to only get uglier. Might as well just scramble everything right away. Like, I don't, I don't think he had that idea of, hmm, let me maybe go get Vrabel or Belichick. First of all, I don't think Belichick and Aaron Rodgers can coexist, especially not on short, really, not on, not without an offseason, not without a whole, like maybe even an Ayahuasca session together.
But if you're Aaron Rodgers and you're playing for the now, and that's all he has is now, right now, this year, maybe next year, wouldn't you want the best head coach to give you the best chance of winning?
I would. I don't think Aaron Rodgers thinks that he needs Bill Belichick. I think Aaron Rodgers and say, give me a rah rah guy and a decent offensive coordinator and I'll take it from there.
The problem is his decent offensive coordinator is a hackley. Right? Like hit.
The whole idea was a moted hack.
A demoted hack that they took place calling duties from. But if you look at it, Aaron Rodgers guy was Nathaniel Hackett. We know he's a bad offensive play caller because they've had the worst offense through four weeks, and then they put it to another guy who's also a bad play caller. So it just looks like they have a ton of black bad play callers in that offensive system. And then you're going to bring in another coach who's going to mesh, not mesh with those guys. It's a recipe for disaster.
But I could see this having happening during the conversation between Aaron and Woody Johnson, where Aaron is getting Robert Salah fired and they concoct a plan so it doesn't look like Aaron's running the team. And that plan is, hey, hack it, demotion.
Well, that's, that sort of leans into my, as soon as I saw Woody Johnson's quote saying, it's probably, and I don't know if you've done this list before, it seems to be right up your alley. The top five lies that are said in sports on the regular.
I think I've done it because.
Yeah, it sounds familiar. Because the owner saying this decision was mine and mine alone. Definitely top five of lies said every single time.
Especially when you're going out of your way to say it. Like you're going out of your way to make the point to the media and the fans, hey, this is on me. This had nothing to do with him. We all know it had something to do with him. We all know it. And I don't care if he resents me or anyone for saying that he's earned this.
Well, it should have something to do with other people because anybody making a unilateral decision like that and shocking everybody else in the, in the building, probably not. Great.
And by the way, if Woody said, hey, do you want me to fire Robert Sala? And Aaron's response was, yes, I'm good with that. Totally good with that.
My favorite is so and so is our guy. That's a good subtext. Is so and so. Not our guy. Josh Rosen. Not our guy.
How about when a coach, after they lose a game, like in the NFL, the loss is on me.
Hmm.
I don't think he thinks that. I think he thinks the loss is on them.
How about any player who says, I never read anything that's out there.
Oh, that's the biggest lie. That's the biggest lie. But stu guts, I think they have to. That one you have to say, because if they say the opposite, they get crushed. Right? Like, yes, that loss is on the quarterback. It's like you're throwing your team under the bus.
Right?
Have to lie and say, that one's on me, guys.
It's like coaching 101. The wins, the wins, the players get the credit, the losses, the coach takes all the blade. Yeah, that's leadership. Right. But it's fake leadership in most cases.
Yeah, yeah, of course. Of course.
You just gotta sell it, Tony.
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Your history with him suggests three years of heaters. Three years of heaters. But this Stugatz, my partner, enlivened by a sports.
We're having sex, baby.
And Joe Maurer. Yes. Like, this is the best version of him. What? Stugatz?
No, you are.
Yeah. Feels good.
This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugots.
So I was thinking about. Because we're talking football here, going to top five drives, but I don't even know if top five drives has anything to do with football. What was the genesis of your top five drives?
We were saying yesterday that the drive into work was the smoothest drive we have ever had. Me, Chris, Cody, anyone who comes up from Broward county.
Me.
It was.
It's the drive after down from Broward County.
A hurt down. Thank you. A hurricane threat which did not impact your actual area.
Right.
Because everyone stayed home yesterday.
So no day where it doesn't snow.
Yes. So that's where it came from. So I have top five.
Okay. So that's not the natural transition. So we'll naturally move to NBA basketball.
But yes. Me and I didn't know.
I just wanted to get clarity here.
About the drives, though. Are there any golf drives? Like.
There are no golf drive. There's only bad. You don't remember good golf drives. You only remember bad ones. Like Mickelson us open shank and hole. Right. One off the roof. The roof. Roof. Roof. I think it's rougher roof tomorrow situation. So I do have top five drives. I do not have a drive from a golf tournament. No.
Darn.
Do you want to go now or do you?
Number five. We're here. The drive. Denver Broncos against the Cleveland Browns, 1987. John Elway took him 98 yards on the road. Got the Broncos to the Super Bowl Classic.
So it is a football list.
Number four, the drive for five Highlanders. Won four Stanley Cups in the eighties. Back to back to back to back. I had the drive for five poster up in my room. They didn't get it done. They lost to Edmonton in the Stanley cup finals because Wayne Gretzky took over the sport.
So the drive for a reminder that they won four.
We stalled right at the very end. But it was a good drive.
It was the most memorable drive is the one that they didn't win. Got it?
Yeah. Yes. Well, it's the drive for five. Yes.
Naturally.
Number three, Ocean drive.
Ocean drive.
I like Ocean Drive.
A lot of memories there.
I like the art deco. Yeah, it's really cute.
Pretty good.
Not my favorite drive.
A lot of murders, perhaps. This is number two rodeo drive.
It's not my first rodeo. I love rodeo drive.
How'd you say your first rodeo? That's good.
I think I stole that line from, like, Jimmy. No. Was it? No, I think it was from Mike Myers, maybe.
Number one, the drive home from work when you have a week off on the horizon, I will sit in traffic for hours and not complain. I don't care how long it takes me to get home. I'm off for a week.
Just let everybody in. It's like, no, go ahead, merge. That's fine.
Are you off next week?
No.
Okay.
No.
You didn't tell Billy, so I never.
Know what's going on.
I'm here.
I'm just checking.
I'm just saying, when you have that drive home and, you know, you have ten days off because you have the two weekends and then you have the full week, that is a great drive.
It's a great drive. And that drive is always the driver. I'm like, instead of putting on one of my normal sports podcasts, I'm like, I'm gonna listen to a movie podcast. So I'm not gonna be talking about sports cinephone.
That means you're relaxed. You're on vacation. Yeah.
Kind of like a lazy river. Yes.
You know what I watched yesterday, Jess? Cuz we talked about this last week. Last week I was.
I watched Halloween three. What did you watch?
There is one.
I watched the Eli Manning costume show with Baker Mayfield.
Oh, really?
I watched the 30 minutes.
All 30 minutes.
It's a full episode. So it's like, I guess they're doing this with multiple people. Host? No. Amazon.
Oh, okay.
Yeah. So Eli has a show where now, I guess because of his, you know, Penn state prank that he did, he's gonna have people dressed up and kind of interacting with fans, whatever. And it was a baker one. And I thought it was just like, okay. It was a long bit that they did know. It's a whole, like, episode. It was so wholesome. So great. It was so nice. You should watch it, Baker.
I will watch it. Baker's a real. He's a real winner. Lately, like, the whole world's kind of rallied behind Baker.
We're like, you know what, real sweetheart. In this episode, I saw him. I was like, I like him.
Anybody like to still get Tom Brady rankled? I'm a fan of, like, tom Brady acting like a 15 year old in the booth saying, hey, I thought winning was everything. And it's just like, man, when is he gonna get over that? When is he gonna stop being the jerk?
Winning is everything anymore.
Yeah, but he's not playing anymore. Like, he's funny trying to win the mediaev.
Yeah, funny guy, Baker.
He is funny.
Likable, dancing.
I liked him.
Yeah, yeah.
They're really leaning into that disguise show thing because the fact that they're doing that with Baker Mayfield and all of these other people on Amazon, and then they're also creating the show with Glenn Powell where he's doing it in a scripted show. It's sort of like when. Like right now with the Menendez brothers, where they have a documentary out, and there's also the show with actors in it where they always take the same stories and the OJ made in America, and also people versus OJ at the same time. They're clearly leaning into, hey, this worked. So let's do as much of it as possible out of Baker. I'll watch all of it.
I don't want to ruin this for Eli Manning. Is Peyton, Peyton, Peyton. Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning part of that, too? I don't want to ruin it for them. But listen, any other college coach, any other coach, assistant coach in the country, if some guy, some unassuming looking guy comes in and starts throwing 70 yard bombs down the field, it's probably a prank. You should just start guessing which quarterback this is now. I don't think you can do a third one of these.
Here's the thing, is that they wait until the end for that, right? So, like, he had like a whole. Yeah, yeah. He. It was like a four hour tour of the facility in the preseason with. It was just for season ticket holders, and he. I mean, so this stuff they throw out there, like, they had this giant screen, and he just asked questions. It's like, baker, come on. You're like. You're going to draw too much attention to yourself. Where, like, it's one of those giant projection screens in, like, their. Their, like, meeting room or whatever. I. And he just raised. And he's like, is that one thousand eighty p and it's like, baker. Why, why are we asking specifics of.
The television 4k now?
Good little episode. If you guys have about 32 minutes at your disposal, I'd suggest it.
Well, first on my list, I still gotta get to this NBA. What's the NBA one called? Starting five. Starting five.
Dude, my wife has been locked in on starting five. She's on episode five of starting five. She's like, wow, NBA is exciting.
I told you I only saw two clips. I saw the Jimmy Butler talking about his father clip and then I saw the end of the episode where they kind of introduce Anthony Edwards. Is that what that is at the end of an episode?
I don't know.
And they are trying to paint him as such a badass. And I like it. Don't get me wrong, I am a little bit on the certain he wants.
To be painted that way, though. That's the funny thing about it.
Anthony Edwards, I think he does really.
They'Re making comparisons and he's like, no, no, no. I'm not that guy. I'm not that. I'm not Kobe. Is he doing the respect thing?
Of course he's doing the, hey, it's all my team.
There was a podcast that I saw. Clip of. I'm not sure the podcast, I'm sorry about that. But a guy, David Jacoby was on. You remember Jacoby from Jalen and Jacoby, right, where he said, I'll give you a take that nobody's got. Ant is overrated.
And I kind of had that take last year.
I did.
Right. Because of the Michael Jordan comparisons.
Right? Well, just because I think he's overrated.
Yeah. I mean, look, he's a fun player. He's going to be probably the best, you know, he's going to be one of the best two guards ever if he keeps on this passed, but he's not quite there yet. Like, he had a great series against Phoenix Suns and his boyhood idol Kevin Durant. But what happened to him the next series? I think whenever he struggles or shoots inefficiently, people aren't going to be on him yet. They're not going to give him all types of pressure yet. So I do think Anthony EdwardS sort of, you know what? It's got to be a skating segment for Chris Cody right at the beginning of the NBA season. Anthony EdwaRDS skating because if he's shooting inefficiently this year, I guarantee you nobody's going to complain. Just going to blame Julius Randall for, for clogging the floor.
The problem is we. We go right to Michael Jordan with the comparisons, which is totally unfair to Anthony Edwards because you put the expectations in an unreasonable place. Like, how about we start with being Dwayne Wade first?
Yeah.
Well, start with making it to an NBA final, like.
Well, it's a great point with Dwayne Wade.
Right.
Cause in year three, he took down a Pistons team that had won a title and then went and beat the Mavericks, putting up 40 something points in multiple playoff games in the finals. So if you can get to be Dwayne Wade, then you could take the step to being Kobe and Michael and those guys. And Anthony Edwards is amazing. But like Shake Gilders, Alexander is a better basketball player than Anthony Edwards is right now.
Right.
And he needs to continue to ascend. But what it is that he has that some of these other guys don't have is he does have the it factor. He has that swagger about him. He has a confidence, and it's a relaxed confidence off the court and then a cocky and competitive confidence on the court. So what it is, is we're all trying to will him into being the guy we hope he is from a personality standpoint, because he's so much fun to watch and he's so much fun to pay attention.
Speaker one, you can stop about three stops short of Michael Jordan when you start the comparison. Oh, yeah, and there was another comparison.
That's Dwayne Wade. I like climbing the stairs, and each stair has a name. It's Wade and then it's LeBron and then hits Kobe.
You gotta get to Jerry West, Dwyane Wade, Kobe Bryant, you gotta jump Kobe and all those people. So it's a silly comparison. And I saw, or at least Tony showed me a different, what I thought to be silly comparison from our boy Tom Haberstro, who said, now his name is Reed shepherd. He's a rookie for the Houston Rockets. He is from Kentucky. He's of the one and done modes of Kentucky guards where you're just like, I don't know if I saw enough of him out of college, but maybe he's going to be something in the pros. Same thing happened with Tyler hero. Same thing happened with, I mean, probably Mulberry wasn't one in doner, but Tom Haberstro made the comparison. Said Reed Shepard is the closest thing to who? Tony?
To Steph Curry.
Get the hell out of here.
It's the, this is the, this is the. The headline. NBA analyst believes Reed Shepard is the closest thing he's seen to Stephen Curry. In a long time. Wow, that is loaded. So we jump from. All right, ant is Michael Jordan to now Reed Shepherd. Anthony Edwards has done something in the NBA, right? Not maybe playoff wise, but he is a force in the NBA. Reed shepherd hasn't stepped on an NBA court yet and played a single second of NBA basketball officially. And he's already being compared to the greatest shooter we will ever see in our lifetimes.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, this was considered a semi weak draft, right?
Sure.
Reed Shepard was drafted, what, third? That's right. Shocking. Shocking. I think that he probably shot up the draft boards of Curry was 7th or 8th.
Right.
And Reed is joining a Rockets team that frankly is pretty loaded. Like they've got Jalen Green, who's just made a jump last year. Probably going to make another jump. Amend. Thompson's going to. I mean, if he doesn't get her, that dude's going to.
Are you telling us the Rockets are going to be sneaky good?
I mean, they're so if she was hurt last, the second half of last season wasn't there. I mean, not even mentioning, like, jabari Smith. You got, got a lot of guys that are just really Cam Whitmore, a.
Very young team, too.
Very young. And yet you're telling me that this Reed shepherd is so good that he is going to infiltrate that, whatever, start that nine man group and not only be a contributor, but give you flashes of Steph Curry? That to me sounds so crazy. But then again, he was drafted, as do said, four or five spots higher than Steph Curry. So the expectation should be there.
No, he shot 52% from three his only season at Kentucky. But when you look at what Steph Curry was able to like Steph Curry, and I think Tom Havistro, I think, I mean, somebody has done something on this. Like the, the moment basketball changed the way that we play basketball now changed when Steph Curry got into the league. Is Reid Shepard the kind of guy that is going to change the way basketball is going to be played?
No. Well, if you're, if you're following Steph Curry, then you're not. Then again, changing it. You're just doing, you're just sort of sliding into his void.
You're doing what we did with Michael. Yeah. Right.
And again, like, what is, is he similar size Reed Shepard? He's probably around six five, if I remember. Right. But there's a couple of things that have to happen there. Yes. He was the number three pick. Is he going to be a featured player for this team? No. Like, early on in his career, the warriors weren't supposed to be anything. They were. There was Steph, there was Monte Ellis. There was clay in there. But they were featuring those guys because it's like, wow, these guys are good. There's no chance. There's no chance that with Sangoon and with green, with all these players in there, that Reed Shepard is going to be somebody they even come close to featuring. So how are we ever going to get to the Steph Curry comparison? And this I'm asking, how about we.
Get to Isaiah Thomas? How about we get to Isaiah Thomas first?
Right.
The steps. Right. Steph Curry's on that second step. Well, Kyle Korver first.
Well, on the steps of point guard Steph Curry might be, you know, might.
Be second top, might be shooters. Let's go. Shooters. Very top.
Well, no, Larry Bird is. Wow.
We're still doing shot for your life. You're still going.
I just. I think birds. Bird's the better shooter, that's all.
Maybe they share the top step.
It's crazy. Tony, I know.
I do appreciate that. The front of the quote from Habestro is he's not Steph Curry, but he's the closest I've seen to it in a long time. And his argument was sort of, this rookie class is weak. He expects that this will be the best player from this rookie class. He expects that by the end of the season, a lot of people will be seeing more of Reed shepherd. He might crack that rotation. And his biggest argument is that the volume wasn't there. On his three point shooting at Kentucky, he shot a really high percentage that he expects because the Rockets could use to have a guy just firing off threes and opening up the floor, that his volume will get there and the efficiency will remain the same. And so as a rookie, you'll feel like, hey, here's a guy who has the same height and weight as Steph Curry running around shooting a bunch of threes.
So Tom's just saying he's a really good shooter.
Yeah, we could have.
We could have stopped.
Yes. Because the way that makes for Steph Curry isn't just the shooting. It's the movement. It's the balance. It's. Every shot is the same every single time. There is no other shooter out there like him. When people try to make the trae young comparison, and then you watch trae young play, and it's like they don't play the same. They take.
He's just shooting from half court.
They don't play the same. And so I'm curious because I'm very, again, because I respect Tom aversion, his basketball opinion and how much he watches and because the Rockets are my second team ever since Amend Thompson got drafted over there. And so if that happens, I'm all about it. I'm just trying to temper my own expectations here because that's crazy. We got to take the stairs, Jess.
Or no Colorado, Kansas State is a sneaky big game.
Ooh, I'm going to go with Jess. Every big twelve game this year, I think is a sneaky big game. Big, big game. Because the big twelve is a conference where I don't really know who the best team is and who's going to win. Currently, Texas Tech is at the top of the conference with three conference wins, but BYU is up there. UCF, unfortunately, they're, they're out of it. Jerber, I'm sorry, I know, but a lot of teams have like one. They're like one and one in the conference so far. And so as conference play opens up, I think they're all big games. Colorado, like, we've seen them be pretty explosive at times on their offense. They've got one of the best players in college football playing for them. Someone that I think should be in your contention to win the Heisman Trophy. He's appointment television.
You'd be shocked if Texas lost to Oklahoma, Jess or no Jess, I do.
Think, you know, rivalry games, there's always.
Yours is back, though.
Yeah, yours is back. They're always going to be kind of weird and funky, but I do think Texas is a lot better than Oklahoma because I think Oklahoma will struggle to score points. Now, if they can keep Texas from like, you know, keep them low scoring like 20 points, 21 points, 24 points, I think they have a real shot, but I think it's going to be hard for them to score multiple touchdowns unless they're doing it on defense, unless they're turning the ball over on defense, getting a pick six here, getting an interception there, forced fumble there. I think Venables is a great defensive coordinator and is going to have this defense ready to go. He's obviously the head coach, not the defensive coordinator, but this is his defense.
I have a quick update here that I'd like to run by you guys in terms of the bucket of, because I don't want to head into the weekend with controversy because I feel like what happened, there's a lot of controversy, then people get mad, say, oh, you guys aren't taking it seriously. So a fan reached out on twitter and pointed out that in the wizard of Oz, this fan asked, should the person not be allowed to take anyone from Kansas as well, which is a great question, because they're not in Kansas. So, like, a Kansas Kansas state. Kansas is a big, you know, thing in the wizard of Oz. So should we allow Kansas to be in play for any of this?
Hmm.
Is anybody ever going to pick a Kansas? Well, city? They're not their chiefs.
The cheap Kansas City.
But isn't the whole point, we're not in Kansas anymore?
I'm just asking the questions because I don't want to have the controversy in the loop.
I wouldn't take the Jayhawks at all this season in football, ever. They're off to a terrible start. That seems like the magic is gone.
There, but it's this city allowed as part of. Because Kansas is in the name.
Is it?
Even if it's not in your. Yeah. Which would make it more accurate. Any team that's not Kansas, Kansas City Chiefs are not in Kansas. So it's more wizard of Oz. Yeah, I would say.
Let's talk about this.
I agree.
We can think about it.
This information would have been great. 30 minutes.
Well, I'm asking because, like, I'm in. I mean, I'd like to loosen the iron fist and make it a tin fist at the moment and offer you the opportunity to change.
You know, they're just gonna have the commissioner back on and have Sarah.
I am the commissioner.
I mean, you know, the ex commissioner and Sarah space. You know, we have a refranda dia today. I picked the chiefs.
Do we?
Did you?
Okay, well, rip, I don't know if that's allowed. Rich, it's still. It's a table. Yeah, you already take. I have an addendum in the rules. No, no, no. That's for next week.
Okay.
All right. That's great.
All right. No one made you choose the lions really quickly. You could have taken time.
Yeah, I was taking time.
Or the tigers.
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
Derek scuba. Right?
Hmm.
We heard you the first time.
Yeah. Just want to mention.
Wow, it's been a long time since we've done one of these.
Can I just take a quick second to mention that when I was doing makeup and I was just hanging out in the, what do we call the common area over there, it felt like I was back in my childhood with my dad and his friends. Like, playing dominoes, like, in the other room, and just, like, laughing and cutting it up with you and Frank. And it's just like, this reminds me of my childhood.
Frankie's like, my brother from another mother is presented by Hulu. Don't miss the new spanish language original series, La Machina. All episodes are streaming now on Hulu. I've been watching very exciting show about boxing, too, if you're into that kind of. Yeah, me and Frankie go way back to a couple years ago, but it's like our souls have been friends for longer. That's my boy. Soul buddies. Exactly. Right. All right, guys, let's. Let's. Let's remind people how to do this. We have phrases on a wheel. We spin said wheel. Whatever phrase comes up, I tell you. Yeah, Billy. So you're gonna have to find the wheel. You know how this works.
Really?
I don't know why you don't.
I'm.
Here we go.
He woke up this morning, he was not the EP.
Yeah, well, whatever.
Not my problem. There we go. It's spinning. Ooh. Oh, an interesting one. Okay, so this one doesn't really mean what I'm gonna say, if that makes sense. Okay.
It doesn't.
Today's profound idea, brought to you by Lamakina and Hulu, is Porcilas moscas.
Ah.
Porcilas moscas.
Billy, can you hit the. You have to hit the sounder, Billy. Fanfare fanfare. The antithesis of the opposite.
Does that have something to do with a fly? What's the literal trans.
Thank you. The literal translation is if for the flies.
If for the flies.
Yeah. Porcilla mocha. If for the flies. But what it really means is, I'm gonna do this just in case. Case. Portila. Mochas is just in case. Mocha. That's better. You could say it on Mike.
Porcia. Castles. Better.
Portia is better.
But that's right.
Just in case.
I'm gonna bring this food home. You know when you're at a big family dinner and they're like, bring some food home, Pasila. Mocha. And then you're like, you know what? Yeah. Okay, fine.
How do you say boogers in Spanish?
Mocos.
Yeah.
Moco. It's very close.
I feel like this whole week was botulamoca. Yeah, yeah. Just in case.
Exactly right.
Ready for the hurricane?
Hurricane preparedness. Porcelain.
That's exactly right.
That's what all those people who go to Publix and just wipe out all the water except for Dasani. Nobody wants Dasani water. I saw one video. I saw a video of all the shelves out, and there was nothing but Dasani water.
Look to your bottom left. Right there.
Big old bottle.
What happened? Oh, wow. Yeah, I got it. All.
I didn't say I don't like Dasani. I was just saying what was available at Publix. Or it's possible that Dasani just stocks up more at these publix. So maybe they're just.
But you make sure you get it just in case. Just in case. Milton made a little bit of a swerve. We had everything ready again.
I used to think that that had to do with mosquitoes instead of flies for some reason. I don't know why. Because in my mind it was like, hey, let's do this so we don't get bitten by mosquitoes. But it had nothing to do with it. No, it was just too little.
Beautiful thing about Spanish is that sometimes words in English and Spanish mean the same thing. So mosquito in English. Mokito.
Yeah, that's a cognate.
It is not a boy. Look it up.
No, I like it. I agree with you. I don't have to look it up. I like it.
Yep.
Oh, can I tell you my new.
Words that sound the same in English and Spanish? How about that? I mean, the same cogni.
My new favorite thing on the show. No, my mind is blowing is when Tony's right about something and confidently right about something, but Dan thinks he's wrong and then Dan gets proven wrong. Oh, man. I mean, not that Tony needs a bigger head, but it just. It's such a great feeling just to watch. And then Dan's like, hmm, what did it happen? What was the biblical reference that you.
Mentioned writing on the wall? Yeah. Yes, and I knew it. But, you know, full of information, some useless, some not.
He's full of something. Hey, what do you want to tell. All right. Oh, sorry.
It had.
I deserved.
Yeah.
So who peed during this lazy river?
The guys did.
I did for sure.
Jeremy's been quiet multiple times.
I never saw him get up once.
Yeah, I don't really smell anything, though. Doesn't really smell like chlorine in here.
Smells terrible.
I think that's willow.
Smells like eaters.
Check the coffee.
I did get that puff of smoke in the air after he came in during. After the break, and it was just like, wow, I am living Dan Levittard's life. Like, that was the second hand smoke.
It's like smelling salts. You're like, ah, yeah, I'm awake.
It'll either wake me up or give me lung cancer.
But they put me in front of a quarterback when he's concussed, take a.
Rip of the cig, the Lance Stevenson of recovering from concussions when football was football. Hey, it's Mike Ryan and there's so.
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We kick things off with some Florida Panthers hockey, but we can't go for TOO long before the Bucket of Death. Then, Stugotz's Top 5 Drives in Sports, the hype around Anthony Edwards, and Billy wants to celebrate Baker Mayfield and his sparkling personality. Plus, the Reed Sheppard-Steph Curry comparison, some more "Jess or No," and the return of Tony's Refran Del Dia.
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