Transcript of The Big Suey: EGAD! (feat. Dave Dameshek)

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In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

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Roy just asked me, Where's Bobby? Because we've seen him rummaging around in the kitchen, and I just said to him, I cannot and have never been able to control that old man. He's on his own time. He does whatever it is that he wants. I asked him to come in here. All I heard him say... He didn't even say good morning to me. You know what he says to me? With breakfast breath, he just says, Belichegh with an 18-year-old That's all he said.

What? That would be news.

Another girlfriend?

Well, my father did a little exaggeration when it wasn't necessary.

Is Pablo out of the Belichegh business?

It's funny that you mentioned Pablo before we get to Dave Damoschek because I do not doubt him, and I believe that Pablo Tori will indeed be able to keep doing the things like he did with Kawhi Leonard. However, it might be hard given that his last episode is a great question. Tony, maybe you can answer it, but it's not quite the Kawhi Leonard news. It's just, why isn't there tickling in MMA?

Interesting.

It's a great question.

There's all the open availability for it, right? You got your fingers out of the gloves. You got feet out there. You got arm pits. You got. It could happen.

You would disarm your opponent if he is indeed tickled.

What are these?

Is the claw legal?

Can you do the claw? That's a good question.

The claw. Like, carry Come on, Eric.

Put it on the poll at Lebitard Show. I don't know why my father just simply refused to come in here and is now having coffee in the other room with Franky. I don't know. He just does whatever he wants to. I've never been able to control him. Dave Damoschek, I will tell you again that that Football Americas show that is on Mondays and Fridays is very good, and we will get his expertise on what it is that we were just talking about here. Marvin Harrison, can you explain to me why it is that he's not any good? Because it's confusing to me, and they need him to be a number one receiver so that everything that Kyler Murray does doesn't die on the vine. Sucks.

Well, I'm assuming that it was the model that was David Boston about 25 years ago, Arizona Cardinal's receiver who decided to get jacked up like he was in the WWE. And so Marv Harrison Jr. Followed that model. And here we are Now, I have a number of notes for you on what you guys have been talking about so far, by the way. I can devil's damage check a couple of points that you guys have made there so far. I think the great paradox of injury prone, you guys should know this in the sunshine state, although you're dealing with it now with Tua, it must be a Florida-based thing because the two biggest names associated with football that I can think of that are considered injury prone guys, or at least were, were Frank Gore of the U, who then had, ironically, about as long a career as anybody ever had, and the other guy who belongs in the Hall of Fame, even though the buzz about him was, boy, if he could just stay on the field, Fred Taylor. Both of those guys were durable bangers deep into their careers, despite the fact that they were both considered to be injury prone at the front end of their career.

So maybe there's some optimism for Tua.

Do you dispute the point that I was making that you would have trouble finding someone else anywhere in sports more associated with, I'm worried he's going to get hurt?

Yeah, I think that's right. I think my hockey brain goes to Eric Lindros, who had that, and prior to him, Mario Lemieux. But yeah, I think you're spot on in the year of our Lord 2025. Tua is the face, sadly, of injury prone.

There was a player in the NBA that people were worried about. Right now, that player is Kawhi Leonard, and he's fulfilling that prophecy. But it was 11 years ago, or probably a little bit longer, where we were all super about Steph Curry's career and those ankles. We were questioning, Who do you build around, Monte Ellis or Steph Curry? Because Steph Curry's ankles are so bad.

I like my fashion friend Mike there dressed like the Craig Eelow era Cleveland Cavalier. Remember when they wore those?

Yeah. Well, I'm glad you mentioned the fit. I am suffering right now. It's a tough punishment. This does not breathe.

Doey.

The CK jeans are a little snow.

Don't show us that part of yourself, please.

I have been doing some work on it.

He's trimmed. I don't want to see that. Please don't show us that. Oh, body rolls. No, stop doing that. Can you walk us through what it is that you saw last night and what it is that you're seeing from Sam Darnold when I say, The most explosive offense by completion percentage of passes thrown that go for big plays is somehow a month into the season, Seattle and Sam Darnold?

It's a good question, Daniel. Are we going with Daniel now? We're going full names.

I went with Danny through college. My byline in college was Danny. Danny Lebitard. He's the only one who calls me Danny because that was my byline in college. Why did you change it? To be more mature because Billy-Oh, God.

I didn't He changed my name.

I know. You remained Billy to be not more mature.

Can I tell you something? I am William David Damosheck, and my parents saw fit to go with David. But I contend that... See, Billy I did it exactly right. He's Billy as a grown man now. When you get into the teen years, you feel like, I want to be more mature. I don't want to be like a grown up. And so then you go Bill. Now, things are all out of whack. If you can make it as an adult. I wish I were Billy Damosheck. I think I would be 10 times cooler if that were the case. You wouldn't be. Well, okay, debatable. But I'll say this. If either, is it a coincidence that two of our five late night hosts still, currently, not last week, but right now, our late night hosts are named Jimmy? Now, if they were Jim, if it were Jim Kimmel, he would not be a late night host right now. The fact that he is Jimmy is a defining... It colors in who he is before you even see him. Jimmy, you know he's a grown man. He's fun.

Yeah. John Corson, totally different guy.

Look what I have done. James Corden. He's out of here. You see? You see? Proves the point.

Dan, I can help you a little bit in the Sam Darnold conversation. Oh, yes.

Sam Darnold. Back to Sam Darnold.

Damosheck is doing whatever he wants.

Yeah, which I like about Dave. Through four games, 21% of the Seahawks' pass plays have produced an explosive completion that is the highest rate in the NFL. Based on EPA per pass play and success rate, Sam Darnold is performing better with the Seattle Seahawks than he did last year with the Vikings. That comes courtesy of Shael Capotia.

Well, it's been seven years since the 2018 draft, and Mike Ryan was actually on Football America last week, and we had this discussion. Is the 2018 QB class, because of the rise of Sam Darnold lately, and then a year or three ago when Baker Mayfield turned his thing around, is the 2018 class that obviously also includes Lamar and Josh Allen, is it now worthy of being on the winner stand up there with the 1983 QB class Elway, Moreno, Jim Kelly, Ken O'Brien, and the 2004 class Big Ben, Phil Rivers, Eli Manning. It feels like it points at the fact that just because in the 21st century, that the way the draft works and contracts work and the term of those deals, that you jam your quarterback in there. If you draft him in the first round, you're likely to be playing him in his rookie season, Patrick Mahomes being the looming exception to that, is that every QB is different, and they do not hit the ground running necessarily. Kyler Murray did, but he feels like he's hit his ceiling. Sam Darnold, like Baker Mayfield, I guess, has found success a little deeper into his career, and it harkens back to maybe like a Jim Plunket sort.

Well, you say, though, you say like Baker Mayfield. Now, I don't know what I'm doing here. I I do know that it's probably not fair, but it is hard sometimes to change opinions once you've established them. Baker Mayfield has changed my mind, but I always like Baker Mayfield more than I like Sam Darnold. I didn't believe in Sam Darnold last year. I believe the Viking season would end the way that it did, and then Sam Darnold was seeing Ghost. He has not yet changed my mind. What am I doing there? Should I change my mind? Am I simply wrong in saying, No, I know what Sam Darnold's ceiling is, and I'm not going to trust it to win a playoff game. I'm not going to trust either one of those teams last night to be meaningfully good teams that are going to be competing for the Super Bowl, no matter what their record is, even if one of them ends up being what last year's Vikings were. I'm making it very hard for Sam Darnold to change my mind, and I don't know why I'm doing that. It feels unfair.

I don't think it's unfair. I mean, it's seven years now now, and 21st century history indicates that if a guy is going to make a Super Bowl run, he is more likely to do it in his first five or six years than he is on the other side of that. I do think that it is a real thing that for all the talk in the QB League about who is a QB whisperer, KOC is one of the genuine articles, and there are very few of them. And perhaps he really did turn around Sam Darnold in a meaningful way that is carried over into this year. And by the way, that's Seahawks team is for real. I think the skepticism about the Cardinals is a little more well-placed at this point, but I have been about Mike McDonald since he got there, and now that they land the QB. I don't think Sam Darnold is a top five quarterback, but I don't think he is a strike against your team in a big game until we prove it. We haven't really seen him outside of last year at 14 and three in the playoffs as he was imploding there.

We haven't really seen Sam Darnold in a big spot, but it does point to, as far as I'm concerned, this rolling conversation. And I heard you with nick Wright last week. I don't understand. I think he and I park our cars in the same garage on this. This desire, the advanced analytics community, has steered us weirdly into this place where the most impactful moments, and there are not a lot of them in a quarterback's career, But those small moments or those few moments that a guy gets in January are the defining aspects of the guy's career. So you're right, I guess, that Sam Darnold hasn't shown us anything yet. So until he does in the big spot, which is in the playoffs, your cynicism where he's concerned is well placed. That's what it's all about. This advanced analytics, too small a sample size to evaluate. You mean the entire point of every season who gets the Lombardi? We're going to diminish those moments in favor of what happens in October or in September against the Cardinals. Fe.

Well, you say that. You dismiss me with your fe. But I've seen Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer win titles, and I've seen Dan Marino not.

Exceptions that prove the rule.

Okay, fair enough.

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Can you tell me, Tony, and can you tell Damosheck why you're out on Kyler Murray? Because he just said, We've seen his ceiling. And a couple of weeks ago, you said, I'm done watching this. I know what this is. It's not going to get any better. I think he's a wildly exciting quarterback, but I'm watching him in last night's game, like I said, and that's as bad as he can look in the first half.

The issue is that with his athleticism, he thinks he can get out of every situation and make a play happen. And to a point, yes, he can. You sent me a video the other day of a Carolina game where he scrabbled out through 19 guys, made a run, Slid, gained 25 yards. The issue is, I think as a passer, he's regressed a little bit. Dave, you can back me up on this. It feels like there's open throws that he can make that he chooses not to opt in for his athleticism to roll out and try to make something else big happen. He doesn't trust his throws to the middle of the field. I feel like a lot of the stuff he's doing is to the boundaries. If McBride is covered in the middle of the field, he doesn't really know what to do. I've just been out on Kyler Murray as a prospect, where now I'm just like, he is what he is. He's a running quarterback that's going to try to get his stuff, but I don't think there's any ceiling. This is the ceiling for Kyler Murray. He's an okay guy who's going to give you nine wins on a good year.

That sounds about right to me. I mean, there has been little evidence that he can week to week. I mean, that's the book on him, is that he's just good enough to get you exactly like Tony just said, the nine and eight-ish. Is he the man? I mean, it's a bad look when he's announcing, I don't really like to study film. He's the face of the team. So I think that any skepticism about this guy is warranted when he is the one announcing that, Yeah, the homework part of it, I'm not into it, when obviously we all understand at this point, that's what it's all about for the most important position in sports.

Put it on the poll, please, @LebitardShow. Worst look for Kyler Murray. I don't really like to watch film or I'm taking a photograph with a Pitbull wearing a Michael Vick jersey.

In fairness to Kyla Murray, maybe he's matured since then. That's a narrative that surrounded him a couple of years ago, coming off of an outstanding rookie campaign. But I took Dominic Foxworth's advice. And I watched a second... I know it's on site. I had a second screen experience with the All-22. And here's what I discovered, no one's getting open for Kyler Murray. No one. You want to talk about the middle of the field? There's only one guy there that gets consistently open for him, and he force feeds him the ball. Those wide receivers get zero separation. If anything, I came away super encouraged with Kyla Murray's performance because he was trying to make it happen. He was forcing the ball into tight windows. His receivers were making plays down the stretch, but guys Guys are not getting open for him. That is a very good defense that he went up against. Now, I do think that he's not without criticism. In fact, at one point, the graphics team put up, Kyla Murray has the second worst winning percentage of a starting quarterback, minimum starts in that division in NFL history against the NFC West, and the worst one was Rick Meyer.

Rick Meyer didn't play in that division. He was in the AFC West. Kyla Murray barely has a 200 win percentage. When you think about the Arizona Cardinals, they've been feisty. They've had one bad year, but they've been feisty. It's surprising that that division has his number the way that they do.

So you go to a quarterback coach with Cliff Kingsbury, where he chose... Rosen was out. Cliff Kingsbury got the job. He said, Rosen, you're gone. I'm getting Kyler Murray. And he had time to work with him. Now we see what he did with Jaden Daniels. Jaden Daniels is basically a special player. Agreed. But that's what they thought Kyler Murray was going to be. He's got his limitations. And if you look at the second half of his career, as far as second half of the year of his careers, he's a really bad quarterback. I don't know what happens midway through the season. He just completely falls apart. They had a year where they were 11-0, best team in football, and then completely collapsed.

You may be right, but I think last night, the best player on the field on the offensive side of the ball was Kyler Murray. I agree with you. He did great last night.

He has spots where he looks incredible. But the issue is that he doesn't sustain that for the entire season.

Seattle has beaten them now eight straight times. And like I said, he was sacked six times last night and had to get rid of the ball faster than he ever has to rid of the ball because he was getting rid of the ball insanely fast. It was always under 2. 5 seconds. What are your thoughts there, Damoshek?

Danny, I think that the thing that stands out to me about last night game is the horrible ending of it. I mean, Kyler Murray, all the buzz about Marv and quitting on plays and all of that and the drop. And then he turns it on for the second half, and especially that last drive, and then the countdown catch, and Kyler as well, and all of that, and they tie the game in probably, and this is so exciting, and I think we're going to overtime. And I knew it. I knew that the Seahawks were about to get the ball and make one completion and have a field goal shot to win the game, and so they did. I don't want to get into kicking again, Danny, but it is a plague now, the way this is operating, and it keeps happening. It's stealing the drama of the sport, which doesn't make any sense because you would think a last second score to win the game would be super exciting, but I think we can agree. It's undermining the actual drama of the sport. With those terrible... The weird rules and wait, what's going on? What does that mean that the ball hit there and all of that?

But now it doesn't matter because he completed one pass because he started at the 40-yard line, and now they get to try to kick a 55-yard field goal. And of course, he's going to make it because every kicker makes 55-yard field goals. And now the game's over and it all stinks.

Is Aaron Rodgers prioritizing not getting hit?

Yes, clearly watch him, and I think it's going to get further exposed against the Vikings and Brian Flores this weekend.

Are the Niners done without Bosa?

Yes, he's their Jenga piece. And when you remove, like a game of Jenga, the critical piece, the whole thing implodes. Their ceiling is lowered. There is no home game in Super Bowl 60 for the Niners.

Will Philadelphia and Tampa Bay settle the number one seed in the NFC?

It will, and Mike Ryan is going to be thrilled to hear this with his MVP front runner, Baker Mayfield and Company, are going to win that game outright.

Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, are you still of the opinion, like you were last week, that we're letting them off the hook for not winning during the Mahomes era?

Of course. What are we letting off? Is Dan Marino not culpable because he didn't win the Super Bowl? Well, he was in the same conference as John Elway and Jim Kelly. I mean, was Frank Tarkenton, is he let off the hook because he was in the same era as Bradshaw and Stawback and snake Stabler? This is nonsense. Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, you are very rich guys for a reason. Prove it in the big spots come January.

Is Emeka Abuka already going to be the rookie of the year and already a top tier wide receiver in this league.

Well, clearly he is. But really, consider the fact, what if they get Evans and Godwin and Abuka? Egad.

Egad and fe. He has hit his foot during this.

What does that mean? What language is that? Dave, what are your thoughts on the kickoff rules? We've had a couple of season sample now, and it's actually, kickers are now being more strategic with how they're doing this, and it's leading to some wonky plays happening in your stealers.

It stinks. I I get that it's for player safety, and so obviously, we don't want guys getting knocked out cold on the football field for our pleasure, but whatever they're doing now ain't working. I'm not interested in investing my limited brain hour in understanding what the rules are and what the repercussions are if you don't meet them. It's all terrible. No one is enjoying this. Just do away with it if we have to, and start them at the 25-yard line.

Football, America, is a great show. It's on Monday and Friday as part of Metalark Media. Thank you for turning that down as I turn to a serious societal point about Jimmy Kimmel because Damosheck used to be a writer for Kimmel. Jeremy, can you look up for me the formal definitions, please, of both fe and egad? I'd like to know the definitions for both of those words. Lovely words I wasn't expecting to hear today. You were a writer for Kimmel. Your thoughts about everything that happened over the last couple of weeks.

I should explain that maybe the fact came out because I'm drunk on Tylenol right now. I'm not responsible for my own actions. I think that it felt in the moment, and we'll see if it sustains, but I really do and did feel like watching him, that a fever broke there. I think it marries up with the Tom braided, weirdly, the Tom braided Booth scandal, as much as it's the scandal, because the takeaway for me with braided sitting there in the booth is, and people say like, he's allowed to do it. Here's the question with the braided thing, and I'll get back to the Kimmel thing, and I'll try to connect my points.

You're doing whatever you want. I'm clear on you just doing whatever you want. I'm eager to hear how it is you're going to make a free speech issue with Jimmy Kimmel about Tom braided.

Because Tom braided represents the grotesquely wealthy. The thing, he's allowed to do it. If there is no value in Tom braided sitting in that booth, then why is he doing it? The reason that he's allowed to do it, and the people who, Goodell on down, who forgive him, are fellow elites. It really is, and I forgive the reach here, but he is part Nico Tuscany, Steven Segal, a above the law, and he's got some Humberd Humberd to it, not the darkest parts of Humberd Humberd in Lolita. But the fact that he is this charming, handsome guy is apparently the excuse. It's Tom braided. Everybody knows him. He's the face of the lead. Come on, he's not doing anything wrong except for the plague of scandals that has followed him for 25 years. Never mind all that, because his fellow elites let him off the hook with this. And that is the problem right now. It is the elites against all the rest of us. Really is in our society. I don't want to make too big a deal about the football hero. But then it connects to Kimmel. What is the difference there? It feels good for we, the proletariat, to say, We canceled our Disney Plus subscriptions, and that's what carried the day.

But really, in my opinion, the fact is it was the powerful speaking up and using their voices to say, This is wrong. That is what will change society. I really do think that that's what it is going to take. The reason I say the fever broke is because I do think some elites on either side really spoke up, but it was people using their juice to say, whether it was Howard Stern or David Letterman or otherwise, those people speaking up, and that's what we need for our society to get onto a better track than it's on right now. I really do think those two things highlight the... I don't know. Too big a reach there, Dan?

It was a substantive reach, but I'll allow it.

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Well, here's the reach. Let's say that Disney believes that Necstar and Sinclair was breach of contract because they preempt the kimmel. Let's say Disney punishes Necstar and Sinclair in those stations by not showing stuff like, I don't know, college football and Monday Night Football. Do you think that can actually happen?

I thought it was great stuff last week as you guys jumped into it, that people don't fully grasp the juice. It's a little in the weeds, I guess, but the way those late night shows work, especially, and the juice that those affiliate groups have, I think you're exactly right, Roy, that that is the pushback That's what I'm talking about, is the powerful pushing back at these people that are trying to assert their power. And that would be the greatest and funniest thing in the world. In the meantime, I think the great ratings that Kim is getting really is a black eye for those affiliate groups. I mean, imagine if you're in Seattle, for instance, and you're not getting the Kimmel show because Sinclair or Nextar are depriving you of it. Of course, you're going to pound the for that. But in the meantime, ABC, Disney can really screw those people and say, We're going to assert our juice and take away your football. Deal with that. I mean, that seems to me the way out of the mess that we're in.

Put it on the poll, please, at Lebitard Show, is it fair to say that Tom braided has been followed by a plague of scandals, as Demarchek just said? I don't know whether that's fair to say a plague.

Of course it is. It extends beyond the duration of the dynasty at this point. What are we talking about? Of course, it's his entire career is a scandal.

An occasional scandal. I don't think it's a plague of scandals, but regardless- Of course, a plague of scandals, Dan.

A plague of scandals starting off. When do we meet him? The tuck rule. That's just a football one. But of course, the deflated... I have to tell you about deflated footballs and videotapes of their playoff foes and him getting Jimmy G banished across football America because he doesn't like him as his backup. The fact that this guy, again, Nico Tuscany of Pigskin, is Tom braided. This is a guy who didn't like that his head coach didn't like, that he was steering his teammates into his own rehab facility instead of the team facility. Belichick doesn't like that, understandably. So braided has to get away from Belichick. So he tries secretly to buy the Miami Dolphins and install himself like Warren Bady in Heaven Can Wait as the starting quarterback. But that doesn't work out because people get wind of that. So he takes the backup, he takes the fallback in Florida and goes to the Tampa Bay Bucaneers and uses them. He's a mercenary. It is the weirdest, worst, most unsatisfying Super Bowl victory for a city. I've got to think. I don't know how desperate were Tampa Bay football fans to get one. The exchange was a celebration to genuflect to Tom braided one last time.

They were an afterthought in the process where the Bucaneers. Then he leaves there. He buys the Raiders. Now he's doing what he's doing, whatever he wants. Again, why? Because he's above the law, Dan.

If you want more references to the 1976 movie Heaven Can Wait, watch Football America twice a week, Mondays and Fridays on YouTube. Football America Show is where you go.

I can't believe this. Dave did such a great job highlighting the scandals. He forgot one. Remember the dolphins flirtation and the tampering?

No, he said that.

I think he said that. While he was leveraging that with the Raiders. I mean, real bad guy now.

Oh, yeah. Listen, it's not just deep dives into the distant past. We also deep dive into important football luminaries like Taven Brian, who factors significantly into why Lamar Jackson is on the Baltimore Ravens right now. We cover that, of course, everybody down there in the Sunshine State remembers the great Taven Brian when he was toiling for the Florida Gate.

Get out of here. Good talking to you, Damoshek. We will talk to you next week, sir.

See you, Dave. Can't wait. Setting the ship, though, Just this last few weeks, we've had Fox go back on the rules and the league go back on the rules because they realized, Oh, he's in the box and he's listening to all these coaches talk and he has insight and also to really clean things up, starting a flag football league in Saudi Arabia. So maybe Dave is on to something.

Is he indeed being paid $75 million for that? I keep hearing people cite that number, and it doesn't sound like it can be real to me.

Is he going to play or is he going to coach? Or is it his league?

Honestly, in retrospect, maybe we were a little hard on Phil Mickelson. I mean, everybody's doing it. You got Messi, you got Ronaldo, you got the rumors of LeBron starting a basketball league with him, you got Chapelle. And let me tell you something, America, we don't exactly have the moral high ground on many countries here.

All right, but we laundered the blood money, and now it has been successfully laundered.

Yeah, but we got a superiority complex, pal. Our human rights record is slowly dwindling. Hey, you want to go watch a big-time football game? Wow. Do you want to watch a big-time football game? That game last night is exactly why Jonathan Zaslow and I are so locked in on, That's exactly what you want. No team's appreciably better than the other one. Each possession a 25-yard pass, feeling like it is a massive play. That is great football. I wish I was there in Arizona, beautiful uniforms from the Cardinals, too, to watch that game. But I'm sure it was a hot ticket. And if something's a hot ticket, how do you even get in that building, Tony? You download the game time map. That's what you do. That's what you do. Take the guesswork out of buying NFL tickets with game time. Download the game time map, create an account, and use code Dan. Get $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Swipe, tap, ticket, go.

Tony is about to leave with my father to go over to the Freedom Tower. Can you go get my father, though, and bring him in here? Yeah, I will. Personally, just drag him in here so that we can do Refrand Del Día with him. We will get to the formal definitions of fe and EGAD in a second. But first, we have to do, as we will do daily until the World Cup, the Ray Hudson The coffee house tricks with the back heels, the backheel flick, and cool. The coffee house tricks with the backheels, the backheel flick, and cool.

It's Jimmy Hendrix at Woodstock. Absolutely imperious Rodolfo Pizarro in this Pizarro world.

Where'd my father go, Tony?

I went to go get him, and I walked outside, and everybody's like, Oh, you're looking for Bobby? I was They're like, Yeah, he left. I was like, What do you mean he left? He's like, Yeah, he said he'll wait for you at the Freedom Tower. I was like, What? Dan wanted him like 45 minutes ago, and he's like, Yeah, he just left.

Rodolfo Pizarro did make me laugh.

I did want to ask my father, I don't think he's been back to the Freedom Tower since he was processed in America at the Freedom Tower. I don't think he's been back since, but Tony's going to go over there with him.

I'm super excited about this, Dan. This is a really cool piece of our history.

It's going to be a private tour. They haven't even opened it back up yet. It's not opening back up until next month, so I'm going to go over there with you after the show.

All right, I'll see you later.

Jeremy, can you give me these definitions, please? Because fe is a satisfying word to say, put it on the poll, please, @LebitardShow. Is fe a satisfying word to say to dismiss someone.

Fe, an exclamation, is conveying disapproval, displeasure, or disgust. Used a sentence, the greatest writer in the English language, fe. Igad, of course, also an exclamation, expressing surprise, anger, or affirmation.

Tony, make sure you scout out that plot of land next to the Freedom Tower.

That seems like a valuable plot of land. It's just a parking lot right now. Just give it to the state for what?

You'll find out.

Igad CAD is something I have not heard anyone under 80 years old use.

You know what Cathy would say in the comics trip?

I think that's the only place I've heard it said other Other than Damosheck.

The look of horror on Jeremy's face when he just found out what that plot of land is going to be used for.

Right next to us. Yes, right next to us. You didn't know what that was.

Here?

Oh, yeah. The state is voting on it, and the state is controlled by getting to moving to New York.

Wow. That finished second. Right next to the Freedom Tower. Will it block? Do we know how high, how much of the air space is going to be? It'll be the tallest, the biggest and the tallest.

Don't you worry, Dan.

Are they going to block our view? Is it literally going to block my view of freedom?

All of this will age extremely well in a couple of years. Don't worry about it.

It's a giant college football week, and Mike Ryan has been delighting in the fact that the Virginia Line keeps going down. Is it now FSU favored by six or six and a half?

Six and a half. This is a very spooky game for FSU. I think we're going to learn a lot now. Fsu, undoubtedly, impressive against Alabama. But watching that back, and there's a lot of social media lowlights out there. Was this more about FSU? Was this about Alabama being completely unprepared? There's some gaming video out there of guys being totally out of position, loafing around on the field. And since then, Alabama, even though suspect teams, they seem to have rideed the ship somewhat. So I'm really curious. On the road at Virginia, we saw a lot of Miami teams that we thought might be for real that got us excited at the start of the season, go to Charlottesville and lose in a conference game. This Chandler Morris offense of Virginia's can move the ball. I'm curious to see what defense we see from FSU. Castellanos has been on the record saying, In practice, I'm seeing the best defense I'll see all year, and so far, he's been proven right. But they played one of the worst FCS teams ever. The Kent State won for the record books. This Kent State team may be worse than last year's.

So I'm very curious to see how this goes, and I'm taking the who's with the points.

I'm going to do this. I don't normally do this. Put the town on alert. I am going to tell you that I would parlay money Ole Miss and Virginia to win the games outright. I will also tell you I'm a truly, epically terrible gambler.