Transcript of Local Hour: Jonny Gannon Slays

Do we have a diagnosis, Billy, on how it is that you are recovering? Because you say you feel better, but you don't sound better. You sound worse.

I don't feel great. I'm not going to lie. You sound like shit. Yeah. I'm in the point where my joints start hurting, which I think is always the last step. And thermometers don't get me started. It's a whole thing with thermometers. I get the thermometer that my kid's pediatrician uses because I assume they know which thermometer I use the best thermometer. I try to sneak a picture and then buy that thermometer because I'm like, This is like if we're at a doctor's office. Then if you take them to urgent care, they're like, No, you shouldn't use that thermometer. I do the ear thermometer, but then they're like, No, those aren't that accurate. Use the underarm thermometer. I'll do the ear thermometer. It'll tell me you have a fever of 100 or 2. Then I put under my arm and it says you have 97 degrees. There's no way there's 5 degrees off here. I don't understand it. I don't know if I'm sick, if I'm not, thermometer tells me I'm perfectly fine, so here I am.

No, you're sick. The joints, that's flu, isn't it? The joints, you don't get into joint-Well, I'm getting old, so it could be age also.

Does it usually coincide with you not feeling great? Have you considered maybe telling your body not today?

Well, the thing is Chris isn't here, and Zaz isn't here, so I knew we were shorthanded. So I didn't want to, an hour before the show, just be like, Guys, I can't do this today. I cowboyed up, and here I am.

You have said to your body, not today.

Yeah, I know. I know. And Everybody in this office hates that I keep saying not today and keep coming in. I'm doing it for them, whether they like it or not.

Please turn that direction. Yeah.

Has it affected your temperament and mood? Because you also came in saying that the Panthers season might be over.

I'm concerned about my coworkers that love the Panthers. Tony over here, a big Panthers guy. Everybody knows he's wearing the Stanley Cee Panthers shit. But I have a take, though. What's that?

Two back-to-back championships. That's it. It's okay. Who cares about next season? Who cares about the season after that? What the hell are you talking about? What does it matter? We don't know the severity of this injury. Back to back to champions. Damn, what else do you want? It could possibly be the worst.. You want to be greedy? You want to have another one? Yes. And another one after that? Keep winning. Already an all-time team want to be irrefutably the best of your lifetime. Back to back. You can throw back to back, Jack, you're good. I want back to back to back, Jack. That does sound better.

These injuries end up being serious, and they're not going to end up winning, right? And you don't have enough firepower. There's question marks whether or not they have enough firepower. All you need to do is get in the playoffs, right? But if they don't have enough firepower, we've seen them do it before. We've seen Bill Zito do this before. Do you consider reloading now? You make some moves and you set up for another run because you say, We're not going to have enough this year, but the pieces we could get back, and you reload.

Roy, how bad is this? Barkoff, we don't know how bad- He's rebuilding. Yeah, he already started with the rebuilding instead of the defending. Yes, he started over. But Barkoff and AC ACL is the worst what's expected?

Noncontact injury, man. It looked really, really bad. It looked bad. They're worried about the ACL, but I saw reports yesterday that they're hopeful that it's not as serious as it looked. Yeah, I'm a little scared.

All right. Billy's toughening it out. Way to cowboy up, Billy. Exciting.

This is the Dan Levatore Show with the Stugats podcast. Hey, it's Mike. I'm here in sunny Alipada. And thanks to some grave oversight by the Bucket, let's say, committee, I picked a punishment that was available on the board that was truly a reward. I got to go to a thrift shop and pick out some vintage clothing and then wear that clothing head to toe. So thanks. Here at Yesterday, which is a vintage shop behind Daily. My neighbor's out here in Alipada, which is a great sneaker shop. I'm going to go buy some stuff. Unbelievable display here. I thought as a goof, this might be the play, but then that would actually make it a punishment for me. So I'm not going to do that. Now, I may get this Ryan Leef Jersey either way because it's gorgeous. But you know me, I love my left turns. There's one piece here that I can't say no to. The Mark Morton Pfizer car. My man was repping Viagra before it was cool. Was it ever cool? I don't know. When I wear this, it will be. So the assignment is head to toe, which includes a hat.

Great wallpats here. This Miami Huracan's Rose Bowl one is calling me. This one's calling me. But I'm going to go ahead and take this. Now, jeans are a tricky situation at a thrift shop. I guess it's the biggest punishment, but I'll go ahead and take these CKs. And now for the final piece. All ensemble, including some South Beach Kobe's, a neighborly discount that I'm sure Metalark will appreciate because I am expensing this. I appreciate everything this fine shop does. Credible neighbors, check them out in Alipada. Thank you very much, kind sir. What a punishment.

That's not the spirit of what we're doing around here. That is not a punishment now. You like what you're wearing. Usually people like punishment. So I will tell you now something that I've been reluctant to tell you guys. It's because I haven't closed the deal yet. He's driving a hard bargain on money. But we're hiring Udonis Haslem to be the enforcer on this grid of death so you guys can quit getting out of stuff the way that you're cheating the grid of death.

I didn't cheat the grid of death. Yeah, you didn't. Grid of death cheated you. The bucket has a board of punishments available. And I will say, while I thought This was a reward at first. This fabric does not breathe. The jeans? Yeah. Little snug? Yeah. Little snug. For the shoes, I didn't have time to put in my insoles, so the plantaphasia, little tight.

Are we indeed changing the name of Thrift Shops now to Vintage Shops? Is that something that's formally made a move? That took some liberties there.

I mean, it's thrifty, but the price is a little different. Truthfully, A lot different. This whole ensemble cost me $500. Well, it cost you $500.

Yeah, you guys aren't doing this right.

Dan, what he did is he went to the best vintage store in Miami and just got a bunch of stuff that's really cool.

He went shopping. That's the spirit of the rule stuff.

That's the here, Mike, this was supposed to be like, get thrifty, so spend like 10 bucks on a full outfit. But I just can't believe that Udonis Haslem is going from being the enforcer on behalf of Spoh to the enforcer on behalf of me.

What is UD going What would you do? Foul me if I don't do anything? Yeah.

Oh, go ahead and keep talking like that. You're going to ask that question?

Yeah, guys, stupid.

Well, he's not even here.

Dan doesn't know how to negotiate because now he's put his name out there and I would just leverage him.

No, we were already close. I actually went With him and his associates.

Antoine?

I'm just going to call them associates to dinner, and we are finalizing this. He's going to be around here as the enforcer on the grid of death, so you guys can't keep doing this shit where you don't I respect this thing.

It's a Dentec bucket.

It's the bucket.

Where'd you go to dinner?

We went to Claw. Who paid? I did.

Okay. I don't know how close we are, him and his associates.

Was it embarrassing when you told the waitress, I can't have nutmeg, I can't have this, I can't have that. He's looking at you like, Come on, dude.

It was embarrassing, but he didn't eat anything. He's a very careful leader. He's a former fat guy, and nobody remembers this, but at the University of Florida, he was a fat guy. I know. It's crazy.

Did you guys talk Highly? Because he's a very involved owner, a very successful one. I hate to admit it, more successful than even Chris and I.

He did talk high lie. He's excited about his Highly team. You're excited about our highlight team.

Our highlight team is cooking. Now, we had a devastating injury to Bueno before the season. It was no Bueno, Tony. That had us needing to use subs. Williams came back briefly. El Barba came back. These are taxi squad players that were undrafted A big drop off from Bueno. We put on our GM hats and we lobbied the league. We would not be in the position that we are right now if we just took this lion down. We fought, we got Robin as a replacement, which is way more fair. Right now, I am proud to announce that your cyclones are top of the table.

I want to, at some point, put together a list of things around here that we're proudest of, because I don't know how high on the list I'd put the fact that we have been proud supporters of Highly and helped keep Highly alive in the American spirit. It's very high on my list, though, of quirky things that I like that I'm proud that we've done around here to own a Highly team.

And totally dialed in on it. The group chat is buzzing. We watch every game. Our scouting network is deep, far, and wide, Dan. It's really cool to see this tree bear fruit because we got Unda in there, and Unda was a new player in the league. We had to do a deep advanced scout on Unda. Man, he is stout but powerful. It just sounds different coming off of his sesta.

I was in a Mexican restaurant the other day, and on the televisions was our highlight team. I could sit there and be in the restaurant and be the proud owner of a sports franchise that was being televised in the restaurant. I didn't know where it was televised, though. I don't know how they got it or where it is that they found it. Where was this? Was this ESPN Plus?

Where was this? It's on the ESPN app. On YouTube. I mean, it's truly a global game. I've often walked into Mexican restaurants and seen the world's fastest game on TV, so we must go to the same Mexican restaurant. It's the world's fastest growing sport right now. I can say that definitively.

That's not accurate.

I don't believe- Name a sport that is growing faster than Highly. Pickle Bull.

I don't believe that that's accurate.

They plateaued.

We're still on the way up. I can see that.

Paddle, though. Paddle's on the way up. What's It's the same thing as pickle, but people that play paddle are more sophisticated. Dan, I feel like paddle is something in your circles.

Speaking of plateauing, I read a good quote here that I thought was interesting from Dabo Sweeni. It was in a Dan Wetzel column about how little Mike Gunde changed, how stubborn he was, and how he got left behind because he was this stubborn. I thought this was interesting from Dabo, particularly when he was just talking about the life cycle of programs and businesses, because it wasn't just programs he was talking about. And in this case, those are synonyms now in college football, a giant college football weekend this weekend. You've got the birth, you've got the growth, you've got plateau, you've got... Why did I pronounce it that way? You've got plateau, You've got a decline, and you've got death. Those great businesses out there, those great programs, they don't plateau. So how do you do that? You have to constantly reinvent, reinvest, reset, learn, grow. You change. You have to do that. You You don't just change to change, but you have to always challenge yourself each and every year and make sure, Okay, this may be how we've done it, but is it still the right way to do it?

That is a great quote, and it is the mantra that Chris Cody and I took into the war room at the Battle Port draft, and the dividends are there, folks. I think we're on our way to the playoffs, Billy, and we got a good shot here. I'm really hopeful. By the way, what happened to Mike Gunde wasn't any of that. T-boom Pickens died in 2019. That's what happened to Mike Gunde.

Well, he said death He said there was- That was the death he was talking about.

That was one of the things he was pointing at. Look at the ascent of Mike Gunde while T-Boom Pickens was alive, funding that program. And man, he would have loved NIL, but unfortunately, he didn't get to see it. 2019, and then the decline, and now death.

Put it on the poll, please, Juju. Has there ever been a better booster name than T. Boon-pickens? Because if I'm getting illicit money, I want it from someone named T-Boon Pickens.

I know you mentioned Texas earlier in the week. You have no idea how much money they've spent. They've spent an ungodly amount of money.

I'll tell you what I saw, though, when I saw their backup quarterback come in and be better than their starter, and I saw them be all game more physical than Utah, a team I know to always be physical, I saw their money being spent when I'm seeing them drag Utah.

There were two programs that were very aggressive about the money. Usc did it a little bit differently. Usc out on the West Coast, not the Gamecox, even though they spent a fair amount of money and are not getting a return on that investment. But Texas Tech. I mean, they spent. They went over and above. And you see their defense. A school traditionally not known for defense, mercenaries, dominant body types. Ramello, you may remember him over at Georgia Tech. Just a pin-the-ears-back pass rusher. That was a really good team before this season. I put money on them to make the playoffs and USC to make the playoffs. What USC has done is really fascinating because they operate in a state where you can have NIL deals for high school football players. And with all the uncertainty around the sport, they decided, We're going to lock in these high school juniors. And if you see the recruiting class for this season and next season, it is Sterling. I think Lincoln Reilly is going to have a bounce back this year, and it looks so far so good.

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Don Lebatard.

Our Panther Group Chat, we're confident against the lighting. This is a different team. You're a Panther Group Chat, though. No, I think... No, but dude, you're so wrong on that. We've been terrified of this team forever, and I think there's a different energy where the Panthers, they want the lightning. Stugatz.

I want T-shirts made for this Panther Run. What could be this Panther Run? Our Panther Group chat, We're not afraid of the lightning.

That's a tagline for World R 3. This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugatz.

I want to get into some things locally here because Tua is feuding with Cam Newton. We've got the most important Panther player suffering an injury that might be catastrophic because I don't want to go into the playoffs with Barcoff and Kachuk not having played most of the season.

He might not get into the playoffs. I think we have enough, but that's going to be tough.

It's a deep team, but he's the reason Barcoff... I mean, the Panthers, yes, but Barcoff is the reason McDavid doesn't have a title, and he's their most important player far and away. I know hockey people know that he's a star, and hockey people know how good he is, but he does not have the name that reverberates the way that McDavid's name does or even K'Chuck's name does, because I don't know who you guys would say is the greatest foreign superstar across sports. Antetokunpo has made the leap, but it is really hard if there are cultural differences, language differences, personality differences, where we don't really get to know you for a star to have his excellence transcend the sport and land in pop culture. But if you're a hockey fan, or if you're paying attention to hockey, the people who pay attention to hockey know that Barcoff is the only human being on Earth who slows McDavid. There's no second place. What is the distant second place, Roy, on guy? There's no such thing as a McDavid stopper other than Barcoff, is there?

No, you're right. Sam Reinhardt is growing up there. As far as Silky Trophy candidates, you got Jack Eichel, but that's about it. Eichel is tremendous, but Reinhardt, probably the most deserving of the Silky award. Reinhardt's in that conversation. Honestly, the guy that will probably have to step up most if Barcough misses any significant time, and we still don't know the severity of the injury, though it did look bad, is Anton Lundell, who's a really excellent two-way player.

Your boy, your friend.

Anton Lundell gave quotes saying he's a Miami Huracan guy now because he had such an incredible time at our tailgate and at the game. Anton Lundell, superstar. Very handsome man, by the way. Dresses really well.

You turned him into a hurricane fan by tailgating with him?

The Miami Huracan did. That asylum, the atmosphere, the winning, the way that they look a certain way. The cold ones. Yeah, the cold ones.

Before I get to Tua and Cam, Roy, Who was our Hampton Farms winner? The nuttiest fan of the week. I'm embarrassed by a couple of things here. I don't know if this is happening to you guys. I'm legitimately embarrassed by this. I have peanut shells all over the floor of my car because I have been-In the car, Dan?

Yeah. That's on you. That's a wild move.

I know.

Stop light just like... That is hopulence. How often you get your car washed? That is a man that gets it washed daily.

Not daily, but you can go out there. You can take a camera out there and you will see in the I'm going to do it right now. You will see that there are some peanut shells. I've cleaned it up. I actually had to get up.

This is the richest shit you've ever done.

Listen, somebody has video or a photograph of me in a stop, getting out of the car and brushing the skins and the shells off.

Getting out of the car, standing up and getting out of the car at a red light?

Because I didn't want to come in here and do it in here. I didn't want to come in here and do it when I was parked. Yeah, because we've got so many peanuts out here. I want to put a couple of things on the poll here at Lebitard Show. This is something I literally hadn't thought of since childhood. Do you feel genuine delight when your peanut shelled peanut has three peanuts in it, and you can tell from outside.

Oh, that's one of the great feelings. It's like that and finding a 20 in your pocket.

And do you feel ripped off if you get a peanut that's hard to crack that only has one peanut in it? I legitimately, what I'm doing there, because I have not eaten peanuts this way since the first time I was in Yankee Stadium, which is one of my most magical childhood memories, because I'm not only discovering, okay, Okay, keep in mind, I'm growing up in a South Florida that doesn't have any professional sports at the time except the dolphins and Yankee Spring Training. And I'm going to Yankee Stadium for the first time. And at Yankee Stadium, I'm discovering that I can eat peanuts and just throw shells on the floor. Look at Roy, what are you rubbing your hands together? You're delighting at the stand.

No, I'm waiting for the punchline, Dan.

You know what it is. What is the punchline? That I was 46 years old? Yes.

Who was on the hill, Dan? Do you remember?

Oh, no, I don't remember. Who were they playing against? I don't remember. I just remember the peanuts. I remember holding my father's hand because this was... The Orange Bowl did this for me, and Yankee Stadium did this for me. And in adulthood, Wrigley Field did it for me just because it was ancient, where I just got a feeling of discovery on something that would be whatever it is that children feel when they go to the Disney World for the first time. But I'm not sure which made me happier, discovering that I could just throw shells on the floor of a place and eat delicious peanuts or watching Yankee baseball, because we really didn't have pro-sports down here. But before I get to Tua and Cam, who is our Hampton Farms winner for Nuttiest Fan of the Week?

Congratulations to the guy that held up the Pong cone pinga sign. Oh my God. Pong. The Pong. I thought you were- Bingo. I'm not going to certainly get fin. I'm not Hispanic. One more time. One more time, Roy. One more time. Let's try it one more time. Pong cone pinga. Atta boy. Okay, there we go. All right, a little bit. You want to do the next part? No. Say, Aca, boy, pan. Yeah, that guy is this week's Nuttiest Fan, presented by Hampton Farms, the official snack nut of the tailgate. Keep an eye out for Lucy Rodine at Arkansas, if you think you are the team's nuttiest fan.

We have good college football to talk about today, but to translate, Pan con pinga is bread with dick, and we're all out of bread.

Yeah, and that played out on the field Saturday night. I did just go check out Dan's car. I think we have a photo of it, and I can confirm peanut shells are in that car. Somehow, not That's not the strangest thing on his car floor. There are four huge jugs of distilled water. I don't know what that's about. That's worrisome. That was actually more strange to me than the peanut shells.

Well, if you must be this invasive, I volunteered this, and so I invited it. I told you guys recently that my elevator in my building has now been broken for three months. I have water that's delivered by the giant jug, but nobody wants to bring up eight flights of stairs. So I now have to buy distilled gallons of water in order to have the water I need. And I'm walking upstairs with them two at a time because I have to have water. What are you guys looking at me like this for? You drink distilled water?

I don't think you're supposed to drink it.

I have distilled water for a sleep apnea machine that I need. I have distilled water for coffee that gets run through the machine. But wait a minute. What do you mean you're not supposed to drink distilled water? I'd be learning that for the Can you just drink distilled water from the jug?

I thought it was for cleaning wood.

Put it on the poll at Lebitard. I'll find out if I'm going to get sick here.

I thought it was for the nabage only.

If you kept searching through my car, you would find even stranger things. But Mike, that's the cleaned up version. Of my car. That's me at a stoplight brushing all of this off of me. But I'm telling you, I wonder if you guys have any of this. Do you guys, so surely, if you've lost parents or you had somebody who cooked in your family, You have stuff that tastes like childhood, stuff that tastes better because it's not just that you're eating something, but you're eating something that comes with memories. Certainly, you guys can answer that question for me. There must be smells for you from childhood cooking that you recognize as well.

Smells for sure. Dunkaroos. Those take me back.

Do any of the rest of you have a childhood meal or childhood food that tastes a little better in adulthood because it's reminding you of something? Peanuts are one of the few. I'm telling you, I probably haven't had crack shell peanuts in about 40 years.

My dad's ribs, those barbecue ribs are awesome. The smell of charcoal brings me back to eating that. Don Levatard. I went in the margins. I'm like, You're money ball of sex? I'm basically Scott Hatterberg for a king. A lot of walks.

Stugats. A lot of walks, but I'm on base.

When it comes to sex, I'm Scott Hatterberg. Other dudes, they can be Giambi. You know your role you play? I know my role. This is the Dan Levatard Show with the Stugats.

Let's go ahead and play this sound of Cam Newton here talking about Tua before we get to some of the other stuff going on locally. A lot of people are talking about Tua now. Nick Wright was on with us last week and said we got to take the microphones away from Tua because he sounds sensitive and defensive, and he's not quite in the position right now to argue against his detractors from 0 and 3 with Billy saying that Monday is another must-win, Billy.

Yeah, must-win Monday Night Football, Dolphins, Jets. I agree. Thank you. You disagree with that?

Well, I think their season's already over.

Well, if you want any hope for the season to not be over, then you absolutely need to win.

And this might be a Waterloo game.

You can't keep doing this, Mike. It's like the fifth one of the season. You can't They keep doing this.

I don't expect all these Waterloo games, but this one for sure, for both teams.

Among the problems that the Dolphins have, I heard Orlowski talk about this today, the way the game has been altered, you better have a McBride. You better have a tight end that you throw to 10 times a game. They had one last year in Janu Smith. They traded him. The best of the offense is they've had two years before that. They turned Gusecki into somebody who was a problem as a fourth and fifth option. I think they're getting the worst tight end results this year of anybody in the league. They do not have that as an option in the offense.

But that was Chris Greer again with roster construction, where they decided, We don't want to pay John O'Smith, so they let him go. They trade him. They let him go. And then the backup plan is hopefully, Darren Waller can come out of retirement and produce for this team, and he hasn't even seen the field.

That's a bad- And people are right so far on and I am very wrong in being hopeful that that was what was going to open up the field in the middle. But now what you see happening to the dolphins is they're being dared to throw to the outside because the middle of the field has been taken away. I saw some highlights from that 70-point game against Denver, and what you see is just Tyreek Hill running across the middle of the field, and there's no one within 20 yards of him when he's the second or third option. That's all been taken away because they don't get any tight-end production, and they're just daring to it to throw to the outside. But here's Cam Newton talking about Tua. Tua Tunkovaloa is making more than Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hertz, Baker Mayfield, Matthew Stafford, Jaden Daniels. Am I pocket watching? No, I'm putting things into perspective here.

What biggie say more money, more problems? Well, in this case, it should be more money, more expectations.

When I see Tua Tonga Valoa over this year alone, I've heard him more than I ever have. That's not to say you can't talk. I like quiet Tua, Alabama tour, chip on the shoulder tour. Not is somebody going to come in to watch a film. Hey, let's see what this is.

Hey, I was dead since I was dead, taking certain things. Man, bro, what you're being paid, what you're asked to do, what you have the capability of from one quarterback to the other, I look at a situation that's like, Bro, come on, dog.

It is really crazy to see that both players, both quarterbacks who were in Carolina, Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield, are now reinvented somewhere else. Darnold has been better so far this season in Seattle than he was in Minnesota. Let's play Tua's response here to Cam Newton.

Or Cam Newton said, Tim.

Anybody can play quarterback in this league then. I want to see anybody on the streets come and play quarterback. I mean, Cam is doing his thing for sure.

But I think it's easier to be able to hold a clicker and talk about it that way or talk about what someone else is doing wrong when you're not going out and having to do the same as them. So I think it's easy to do that. I think anybody can do that.

I don't think anybody can play quarterback.

I mean, I'm worried about Tua.

He knows that Cam Newton played the game at a very high level. It doesn't seem like he remembers, right? He was the MVP of the league. He's like, It's easy to arm-chair me from a studio. That guy's got the bona fides.

I would rather have Cam Newton start on Monday night than Tua. That's crazy. I think the Dolphins would have a greater chance of winning the football game. Did you see Cam his last two seasons? I'd rather him just take the ball and run it three yards at a time right up the middle in a QB draw, then what the offense is going to be with Tua.

Even when he was on a decline, though, he had a couple of games. He had Shody. That game against the Seahaw. He got physically abused as a quarterback. Let him go out there. I think he's got one more in him. The The thing with Tua is there wasn't much of a debate on paying Tua nationally. The main concern is, can we invest this much money in a guy that is a hit away? I know everybody's a hit away, but more so than the average person. That was a real debate. It was never really the performance because everybody was pretty well convinced that if this guy is healthy, he's worth the money. It's pretty shocking that he's healthy, well, presumably healthy, and he's bad bad right now.

You have heard me make the argument that the Dolphins, a regional team, have three personalities that are nationally relevant, all of them polarizing: McDaniel, Tyreek Hill, and Tua. The most polarizing of them is Tua because we've been arguing for seasons now, is he good? Is he worth the money? And you're right when you say that most of us would have said, just like you pay Trevor Lawrence, if Trevor Lawrence is going to get that money, then Tua deserves something close to that money. But I think I can make the argument as we speak here, when all of us know, all of us know, that in sports, what happened to Barkoff can happen to anyone at any time. You're doing things that are physical, injury risks are prevalent, and they are largely random. But I go ahead and defy you to take all of sports right now and give me a guy more likely to be injured in the we do the diagnosis while assessing what players are than that guy, where you just assume that he's a bigger injury risk than other people because you're assuming he's a hit away from retirement. If I gave you all of sports and said, Give me a name that you just think of, and I know it's not fair, but it's what we're doing.

Retirement is different. I do think Joe Burrow is inching towards that conversation. This guy is more likely to get injured on a given hit, even one that looks like run of the mill. But career ending, it's, too, by a wide gulf. Christian McCafree is not too far away. It feels like he's a couple of hits away from like, Oh, something's not really right. It's not even so much hits with him because he's still running pretty hard. I mean, he's out there and he's been excellent this season. I think he's shocking a lot of people with how good he's been, but it's like he's got all these muscular injuries. Yeah, that's scary.

Chris O'Lop is good for two concussions a season.

Yeah, I'm worried about him. If he has another bad concussion, we might be talking to a status there.

It It is interesting, though, when I think about it, to just offer the audience, I'm giving you all of sports, who's the guy that you think is the biggest injury risk? And Dolphine quarterback is where a lot of us are going down here. I want to talk for a second before Dave Damoschek comes on here to talk yet more football about, do you guys know the team that has the most explosive explosive plays by percentage in the entire league, the offense that has the most explosive plays by percentage?

I would guess Tony's MVP candidate, Indianapolis, just because I never see them punt.

The answer to the question is the Seahawks.

Wow, dude. Look, Kevin O'Neill is a really good coach, and I think we all attributed what we saw from Sam Darnold for the first time to a great head coach that knows how to coach quarterbacks. He's doing this now with a defensive-minded head coach. And I got to say, he looks terrific. Not just the results on the field. No, he physically looks terrific. This dude was a little puffy in college. He was puffy his entire career. His body looks lean. He's flashing athleticism. It looks like he's learned from all the stops.

It's not just lean. He looks Josh Allen big. You see him on the field and he looks big. We've learned the last couple of seasons that he can run, that he surprises you with his ability to run. But he also just looks thicker, larger. When it comes to that position and how often people get hurt, the first couple of weeks of the season, we lost five starting quarterbacks. That by percentage is an enormous amount. Our analysis the first month of the season is going to be irrelevant a month from now because of all the people who do get injured in that sport. But he does look physically impressive, and they have a 21% explosive completion rate. And what they did last night was produce a game that you didn't have to pay attention until the last four minutes of that football game. The last four minutes of that football game ended up taking more than 30 minutes of real time. It was all decided in there. It was interesting because Kyler Murray, who's never been pressured like that. It was six sacks, and he had less time to throw than he ever does. And he got bailed out on a fourth and 4 by Wilson that he threw too early.

But he was getting rid of a one-handed catch. He was getting rid of the ball very fast. And the thing that won't be analyzed about last night's game, because we'll talk about everything else, is you cannot be the Arizona kicker and let them start at the 40-yard line because you can't kick off correctly.

All right. I am really upset that I have to learn these kick-off roles. I thought, What's this drop zone? What do you mean? I don't like it. And now you got dirty kicks. Mike Vrabel's breaking down film of Carolina's dirty kicks. That's a stupid to lose a bet because a dude was just trying to be sneaky and it bounces two feet. Look, what was so wrong about the previous kickoff rule? I know we didn't get runbacks. Maybe back them up five yards so you can get some runbacks. And it was a player safety thing, but this thing is confusing and is bad. I don't like it. That game was awesome last time, though.

Okay, you can change all the rules that you want. You still can't be the kicker in that situation and allow Darnold with 30 seconds left to start his own 40-yard line. In a tie game when this is what you got at the early parts of that game. Kyler Murray, first nine drives, first nine drives, 130 yards, 6 points. Last two drives, 119 yards, 14 points. They come all the way back. You have all the momentum in the game. You've come back in a game, you don't have a business being in because so far, Marvin Harrison looks a bit like a bust. And even the countdown catch he had in the second half, that catch by probability rate, he wasn't open at all.

No, no zero separation from that guy.

It's weird to see. I don't even understand. I really don't understand how that player who I saw in college who was better than everybody else isn't faster than the people in the pros in any appreciable way when he was drafted to be faster than the people in the pros.

And he spent his entire offseason getting heavier and slower. He put on 25 pounds of muscle. You said that there wasn't a reason to watch that game outside of the last four minutes. I disagree. I was locked in on Marvin Harrison Jr. Loathing the entire time. You want to talk about this dude has the worst body language I think I've ever seen. There's a saying that I have with my football friends dating back 15 years, Vrabelcam. Towards the end of the end of Mike Vrabel's playing career, I was just fixated on him because he was getting old and he was out of position. And I'm like, Man, this guy's bad. So ever since then, any time I think a player is bad, I lock him in on Vrabelcam. Marvin Harrison has been on Vrabelcam this entire season. You can tell when a run because he barely gets off the line of scrimmage. He looks like he hates being out there, and maybe that's the thing. Maybe he just hates football, but it is painful. I know who his father is. He was a great player. He was a great player. I'm sure his father is probably disappointed in the young man.

No. And you don't want that guy being disappointed in you. No.

This is a Jonathan Gannon problem, obviously.

I want to talk about him for a second because I don't believe there's a more stoic coach in the league. Every time they to a camera angle on him. And the truck is saying, this is a situation to go to the Arizona coach to see his reaction. He looks exactly the same way. So put this on the poll, please, Juju, at Lebitard Show. I'm bummed that Zaz isn't here today because he's been waiting for this question all his life. At Lebitard Show, would you respect Jonathan Gannon more if he went by John? Historically, who are the great Jonathans in sports? If I give you Ogden, I'll give you Ogden as a tablesitter.

Jonathan Taylor.

Huberdough. Vilma. Vilma.

Papelbon. I think I still got you guys on Ogden. I think- It follows me. Ogden is the best.

Yeah.

Papelbohn follows you?

Yeah, I don't know why. That's a random one. We'll get Damosheck to chew on that one a little bit.

Jonathan, I believe you are a lesser athlete in sports that we will respect less if you go by Jonathan instead of John. If I give you him as John Gannon, you would think that he's got more control over his team.

No doubt. That's an action movie, so I'm building a franchise around John Gannon.

But not Jonathan.

No. Jonathan Gannon? Why does he go by Jonathan? That is a bad move. You shouldn't be worried about this, Coach, just because John Gannon is right there for him. What about Johnny. Johnny Gannon? Fine. Out of all the options, we can all agree. Jonathan? Worst. Worst, Johnny.

Do you guys agree, though? And look, I'm not watching a ton of Arizona football, but every time I see- You shouldn't, by the way. Jonathan Gannon, he is stoic. Well, I'll do you one better here.

I was worried last night, Dan.

We'll get to that in a second. I'm going to give you guys all the games the Arizona Cardinals have played since Kurt Warner took them to the Super Bowl. Give me a reason to watch any of them. Give me a memory from any... If our show- Carson Palmer had a good team. If our show, I'm not saying they haven't had good seasons. I'm saying if our show had to, as an assignment, tell me, prove to me that we had to talk about one Arizona Cardinal's thing since Kurt Warner was in the Super Bowl. If I told you our show since Kurt Warner was in the Super Bowl had never once discussed Arizona Cardinal's football, would you be able to prove me wrong by saying, what about this one time with this one game with this one moment?

Yeah, the one time, the one game is Aberderas, Hale Mary, Mike McCarthy once again blowing it for Aaron Rodgers, Carson Palmer beats. That was a great team. That was Post-Kurt Warner. We waxed poetic about Larry Fitzgerald's ass. Exactly. Larry Fitzgerald's ass.

That's the one thing. That was mine, too. I was going to say he spent a lot of time on that.

Beautiful on the young man. It was.

Johnny Gannon drove a Corvette in high school, right?

For sure. Johnny Gannon is like a high flying OC. He's averaging 40 points. Johnny Gannon slays. Yeah.