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This is the Dan Levatore Show with the Stugats podcast.

All right. There's a lot of pressure on Dadeo sitting in the main chair, that being Jeremy today. A lot of pressure. You are in the main seat. You are keeping the show running. And look, not to rattle you a little bit today, because we're going to have fun. It is Friday. The weekend's almost here. But this show starts at 9: 00, Jeremy. Come on, we're already late. This is ridiculous.

Come on, we just got a laid-back cool daddy-o mentality today. If things run late, they run late.

Now, don't screw it up today. This is a very big day for you. All right, you are in the chair with all the controls. What is the anxiety level? I hear you got here very early this morning. I did.

Got here early, took the early train just to make sure everybody was relaxed because as you can tell by my sunglasses, I'm not hiding fear. I'm just super, super chill.

Are there sunglasses for your voice? I hear a I'm tripling. I'm two to the fifth. I've had three different people reach out to me and pull me aside and say, Hey, Jeremy's a little nervous about today. Be there and support him.

I don't know who's telling you that because that's simply not true.

His name's on the streets?

Yeah. People are worried about Jeremy, which is actually interesting because he's actually well-liked. Outside of his reputation here on the show, people really like Jeremy, so it's actually cute to see. Just because you put on sunglasses, though, doesn't mean you're going to be in control here. It feels a little patronizing. I am a firm believer in look Good, play Good.

So today is a Friday. Things may look a little bit different to you because you will also notice Tony. Tony is sitting up front. Tony, no turning around. Do not.

I'm in the voice seat, and I can only look forward. I can't look back.

You look straightforward. You do not turn around. Dave Damosheck's ugly mug. That's right. You are looking straight ahead. That's your... No, but I can't- Don't turn. But what if I need to talk to you? No, straight ahead. Let's say hello to Dave Damosheck, who is out on the West Coast. Hello, Dave.

Yo, what's happening? It's a pleasure to see most of you. Jeremy is masking his emotions. I am in El Segundo, California, right now in a production facility. And as nice as the digs are there where you guys sit, these might be even nicer, at least in this regard. Here's the good about the facility where I am. They have a literal shower here. A shower in your place of business. How luxurious. The bad, speaking of masking stuff, is in the bathroom. I was just in making number one. I wanted to be able to focus in. And I noticed that they have a citrus-scented spray bottle. I feel that that masking, that attempt to mask malodeous stuff is We have to, as a society, advance the ball here a little bit because whatever we're doing ain't working, and it, in fact, worsens the situation. How say you?

You know what? I'm going to spend a little bit of time thinking about it. I I didn't know that that question was going to be posed to me this morning. I will get back to that, Dave.

Are you pro bad smell?

No, of course not.

I think the worst smell, the nauseating smell is the worst, the number two, plus lemon scent. That makes me want to throw up.

Got it.

I mean, the other one ain't good either.

Let's also say hello to Trista, who we did not... Tony, you don't turn around. I can't see Trista, too. You look straightforward. That's your seat today. All right. But let's say hello to Trista, as we did not expect her to be here with us today. Her stay was only supposed to be for Monday through Thursday. She is here with us today. What happened to you last night?

I get to the airport. I'm thinking everything's good. We literally see people come off the plane. I'm like, All right, we're happening. This is happening. Talk to the gate agent. They're like, We're about to start pre-board because this is the trick. You have your service animal, you pre-board with the people who who are the olds and the Youngs.

Do you put a vest on that dude right there?

I can't find a service animal vest this small, but he is doing servicey things. Then all of a sudden, I hear a bang. I'm like, What was that? That wasn't good. Then All of a sudden, the flight's canceled. I find out that the luggage mover crashes into the plane, that's what that bang was, and gets underneath the plane and breaks off an antenna. They said, Well, we're going to try to see if American Airlines will lend us a part.

You got a spare part, American Airlines?

Hey, we'll give you one if you ever have any problems in Portland. I was, Oh, that's not really good at all. I called up Kristen, whose birthday it is Okay, so happy birthday to Kristen. She said, Why don't you just come on the show tomorrow?

I said, Sounds good to me. I mean, Buddy, who crashes into the plane and causes everyone's night to be ruined and obviously cost the airline money, that That guy's getting canned, right? That's a pretty big mistake.

He's fired. That guy's definitely fired. You would think so, right? I asked the guy in the luggage area. I said, How often does this happen? He goes, In the two years I've been here, not one time. Now, this is not- Happy birthday to her.

I don't care.

Good luck. We said it was her birthday. Bad timing.

Come on, man.

Happy birthday, Kristen. Now, Trista, this is not the first time that you have dealt with an issue on the flight home from one of your appearances here, right?

No. The last time I came here, I had a layover in Minneapolis, and I get on the plane with the olds, and I see that there's a couple who is adamant about sitting together. It's a very sad story, so just get ready for it. Brace yourself. They do end up sitting together. I'm watching my iPad when we are leaving from Minneapolis to Portland. We're midair, and they're doing full-on resuscitation of the man who got on the plane. He didn't make it.

The couple who wanted to sit together?

Yes. The man with the oxygen tank didn't make it. Died right in front of my right foot.

That's way worse than the story about the Poop covering smell. That's way worse.

It is, yeah. That's why we just slid right past the citrus.

All right. There you go. So NHL Trade Deadline today, Dave Damoschek, a way of seamlessly transitioning. Dave, are you as pumped as we are about the NHL Trade Deadline today.

I'm very excited about it, actually. My team, the Pittsburgh Penguins, is in contention, although they've been on a mini little slide here, so it's going to be very interesting to see if they make moves right now. It also strikes me that around trade deadlines and free agency, the newfangled sports fan of the era in which we live is the one who is overly sober. It's cosplaying general manager when they start to concern themselves with the long term ramifications of giving up a first round pick. I like this guy in the conversation like, whoa, whoa. Is he worth a first rounder, though. I don't know if we want to give up that to get A. J. Brown, if we want to go all in. It could impact the next couple of few years for our franchise. Hey, guess what? Ain't your concern, fan. Go for it right now. By the way, you should always go for it if you're a sports team. But if you're a fan, you should certainly be rooting for that. Where is this newfound sobriety? Who do these people think they are that their input about conservative approach to managing the roster of their favorite team?

Did anybody ask for their input? Just cheer along. I'm not saying you're not allowed to have an opinion, but it's very weird. I think everybody needs to drink more. It's the bottom line. I think this is a victim of another element of this generation is that kids these days ain't drinking anymore, apparently. Bier sales, wine sales, booze sales, all down, and we're worse for it.

Okay, so I think we could all agree, though, that the person you're talking about here, the fan who is worried about the future ramifications of giving up X for player Y, we're talking about Jeremy, right?

One hundred %. What are you talking about? Oh, stop. I'm here to inform. You love it when we get under a tax apron.

Tax aprons are never my thing.

Yes, you love it when Andy Ellesberg makes a deal that saves Mickey Arison money. You love that stuff. And it's not even money against a cap. It's money against a tax. You have the same Miami Heat brain rot that the rest of Twitter has.

That's absolutely untrue because the rest of Miami Heat Twitter is like you in thinking that Bam at a Bio is somehow overrated when he's one of the more underrated players of the NBA. Really?

I'm not that dialed in. I'm that much of a tastemaker. They finally came around.

You birthed them, though. Yeah, you did.

You birthed them.

You took credit for that several years ago.

Yes. As you know, I am heat Twitter's as.

Well, Dave, that's what you're you're talking about, right? When Jeremy shows up the next morning and is like- My job is to inform. You can't make this trade because it would take you over the second apron. You have to stay under this task. My job is to tell you that. Jeremy is who you're talking about.

You love the apron.

I don't want to go Jeremy. But yes, I'm talking about Jeremy. Yes, or anyone else in his shoes who talks this way about, like I say, the sobriety required to... You're just a fan, and you want to try win right now, but I am keeping my eye on the prize, which is the long term ramifications of all this. Listen, let's just go for it here. I think that's what we as fans should be trying to do here instead of pretending that your tweets or your Instagram posts are somehow going to influence the actual general manager.

All right. So we'll keep an eye on anything that happens with the NHL trade-down, specifically the Florida Panthers, right?

Yes. But to close the loop on Jeremy and and others like him, the Miami Heat occupy this strange space where everyone's like, All right, we got to keep our draft stockpile. Yet they never have these assets. It's like for 10 years, we've been talking about, Well, okay, we can't go after that guy. The next guy, though, we'll They don't have enough. And yet they don't have enough. They never have as much as the other team.

You're right to an extent because, yes, that has been the Heats MO. Maneuverability. That maneuverability and flexibility is the Miami Heats favorite buzzword when it comes to whether or not they're going to make a move. You got to have maneuverability. You got to have flexibility. Right.

But then there's always someone more flexible and someone that maneuvered better.

Well, yeah, because we saw Yannis maybe became available a few weeks ago. Where did he get traded?

Enough of him, by the way. Where did he get traded? Don't want to hear about that guy ever again.

It wasn't the heat's lack of assets or flexibility. It was the fact that the Bucks were never serious about trading.

It was a dog and pony show.

Hold on a second, because for all the talk about maintaining your maneuverability and flexibility, if a player When the worth it becomes available, and I think we'd all agree, Yannis is that player who would be worth it, the heat actually did not have enough trade assets because they traded for Terry Rozier two seasons ago. I think that's the point Mike is trying to make. That was a setup in a scam, though.

But that had nothing to do with it. They would never get off of Bam. If you need to get Yannis, then you need to get rid of Bam. That's the asset that you have to be open to moving.

But if we are going to- So that you could be the bugs. But look- See?

You don't turn around either.

Look, today, we could talk positively about the heat because they are now five games over 500. Big game. I understand. There's been the nets twice. I get it. Big game tonight. Hey, Tony, if you're a decent team, you kick the crap out of bad teams. You're right. And that's what the heat did this week. But, but, but. Kala Wey. You see Kela, where last night? What do you have? Kela, no. Seven blocks, five steals. Are you kidding me? Kala Wey, last night, that was your boy.

He was unbelievable. And he set records. There were like, last Last night, the last four players with 15 plus points, 10 plus rebounds, five plus deals, five plus box, and 65 % from the field in a game. Dwight Howard, David Robinson, Hakeem Olajuwon, and Kala Wey.

Are you sure? That's from StatMuse.

Players with 16 plus points, 11 plus rebounds, five plus deals, and seven plus blocks in a game. Hakeem Olajuwon, four times. Shaq and Kaleilware last night. He's the first player ever with 10, 10, 5, and 5 off the bench, ever in the history of the League.

I'm feeling a little nostalgic, remembering all the times we did this with Whiteside.

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The difference between what last night was and what we saw from Kalele, where throughout the rest of the regular season-Was the Nets. Well, A, it's the Nets, right? But it It has to be pointed out.

I loved Kalele, what he did last night, but it has to be pointed out. I got to be fair.

Yeah, the counting stats are really not what impressed me. What impresses me is the difference in his mindset on defense in terms of communication. You can see it on the floor that they're not a worse team significantly defensively when he's out there. He was always putting up the counting stats, but the impact is different. And you saw it last night, Bam had five fouls about halfway through the third quarter, and so they had to play Kael for a stretch of 12 or 13 straight minutes.

The only player who played more minutes than him last night was Jaimey Haukez.

Yeah, he never would have been able to do that earlier in the year. And his impact is great.

Why'd you say that like walking?

How should I say it? Jaimey Haukez. Jaimey Haukez. I don't say junior, by the way. It's too much of a mouthful. You know what I'm saying, Dave? Jaimey Haukez. Why do I have to say Jaimey Haukez junior? We all know that I'm talking about Jaime Jaques. If I don't say the junior part, I'll be like, Are you talking about him or are you talking about his father? Everybody knows I'm talking about Jaime Jaques.

I'm more fascinated, to be honest, by the fact that Zaz is so powerful, so influential in his manner, that whether or not you guys all realize it from a distance, you all fall into vague impersonations of Zaz. I'm very much around for a full week.

That is definitely not true.

What do you mean? You guys all start to mimic his speech pattern.

I don't know what you're talking about.

I have no idea what you're in here.

What is he? Me? My voice? My cadence? Awesome.

By the way, to go back four minutes ago, I'm sorry. I have to say that part of the thing that the NFL has over the other league now and why the NBA, I think, has very slightly dipped over the last few years is because people like to get into this pretentious game of future considerations. If we give this guy up now, we can get a first round or a second round pick, something like that, you know who that is, or at least you can envision what college football player you might get. You don't have that in hockey, in baseball, and now in basketball, because so many of them are European or otherwise. That heightens how pretentious people sound when they start talking about, I don't want to give up this power forward because of future considerations. You couldn't name anyone who would be available on planet Earth. You just want the future considerations to have flexibility, as Mike Ryan just described it. I think it's very strange. Now, NHL Trade Deadline, Bob Bobrowski may get dealt here today. Where are you guys on that? Are you rooting for him? If he does get dealt, do you hope he proves to be the missing link for whatever team he lands with?

Okay, so Mike, yesterday, I'm watching the Panthers last night. And by the way, I think the rest of this season for the Panthers, they lost last night 4-2 at Columbus. Did they get hosed at the end? Yes, they did. I think the rest of this season is going to get ugly. I think they're really going to bottom out. But I was really proud that they fought back last night. They were down 3-0 in the third period, and they ended up tying the game, before I answer your question here, Dave, they ended up tying the game at three with five minutes remaining. And then you have the coach's challenge that there was goal tender interference. And I got to tell you, Mike, for the life of me. It's like what's a catch in the NFL. I have no idea.

This is getting to be exactly right, Zaz. Hockey isn't as popular, and that's the only thing that insulates it from being in the conversation for the worst foul in any sport. What is goal tender interference already? Can we settle? I'm sorry to interrupt.

I'm pretty sure I can see it when the skater does it on their own. But there's this weird gray area that is super inconsistent that you cannot cite precedent because it swings wildly when another skater, a defender, is pushing the opposing skater into the goalie.

And the goalie made no effort to stop the shot. I had a feeling they were going to take it away last night, but I had no idea. And I shouldn't have no idea what the call is going to be.

It almost feels like an intentional move on Columbus's part to shove the Florida Panther to the goalie because they're absorbing all this pressure. But to the original point of Sergei Pabrowski, he's had a contract at the end of the season wherever he goes. If he is dealt at this trade deadline, it's likely that he's a loner. I guess the hope is for Panther fans that have an affinity for Sergei Pabrowski. I think you could look at this rationally and say, he's having a bad year. He's up there in age. He's a two-time champion here. He really turned his legacy around down here because he went from being pretty hated with a regrettable contract to being this two-time champion, Bonafide Hall of Famer, and that number 72- Choker.

That was his rap. Yes, always.

And now the number 72 is probably going to be hung up in the rafters one day. I still think that you have the outside hope if you're the big Bob fan that he goes to another team, gets hot, you have a rooting interest in the NHL playoffs, and then he's a free agent, and he comes back on a team friendly, which is always a possibility. Bobby.

Never happens.

Well, okay. So I'm glad you mentioned that because I was watching some clips of hockey shows last night on Twitter, and one of them brought up the idea that the Panthers should trade away Serge Bobrowski today, that maybe you can get a first-round pick from him, which I think is crazy, crazy. But that you trade him, you get whatever compensation, and then he comes back. Then he comes back. It's an unwritten thing. You tell Serge, Hey, we're going I'm going to trade you over here, and then we're going to offer you this in the offseason. You're going to come back. Why can't they do that, Dave? Bobby.

Did somebody just provide an actual example of this happening? Because I cannot recall it off the top of my head. You always hear this conversation, but it never comes true. You're right about that. I'm sure there are a couple of exceptions that prove the rule.

You're right about that. This was all the talk from Boston Bruins fans last year. However, Brad Marshan's contract negotiations were well written about, whereas down here it could be the media market. No one's really been wondering what's going to happen with Bob, even though he's going to have his jersey retired by this franchise. No one's wondering about his contract status. I think it's pretty well assumed. This is a guy that's at the tail end of his career. He's had a hefty number, and I don't know if this market cares as much to make that a narrative throughout the season. But if the Panthers can get something certainly along the lines of a first-round traffic, you do it, you jump at the chance. But I do think this season is a little sad in that you never really had a chance in retrospect. They were in a very difficult conference in a very difficult division. And Barcov, I think in his absence, everyone's even got a more profound appreciation for him. But in a weird twist of fate, had a Championship celebration at 11. You got the Olympic gold medal. It's a nice consolation prize for a lull of a year, and hopefully they'll be back next year.

I'm pretty sure they will be because this core that this team is built on is still young enough to chase.

You're right about not really ever having a chance because it seemed like they were putting something together right before the Winter Classic. I remember having conversations, Oh, they're back, they're back. And they're going to get Barkoff back, too. And then Seth Jones got hurt and it all fell apart. I hope... Now, he does have a 16-team no-trade clause. So half the league, more than half the league, Buparovsky cannot be traded to without his approval. I hope they don't wind up moving him today. I really don't see that there's another team out there. He wouldn't be a starter for a team that's trying to make a Stanley Cup push, because if you're a team trying to make a Stanley Cup push, you presumably have a goal tender this year who's been much better than Serge Bobrowski.

Zaz, he would be in Edmonton, and in fact, he could prove the missing piece if he finds his game. That'd be crazy, right? Well, what I'm interested in is, again, are you Are you rooting for his success if he does get dealt away because he delivered two Stanley Cups? It depends where he goes. I think you can make him. Well, exactly what I was about to ask you then, LeBron, are you rooting for his success with the Lakers? What a silly question. Do you like him? Well, Barbarowski feels like he came to you a little fraught, we don't know who this guy is, and the next thing you know, you have a couple of Stanley Cups. Lebron shows up, if you didn't hear, and he said, not one, not two, all the rest of it. It was probably, I've never asked any of you guys, are you ultimately satisfied with the LeBron era when he was a heat? I don't want to have the conversation again. Is he a heat player? Is he a hot? Or is he one of the heets? Whatever he was. If you're satisfied with that, it feels to me from a distance like you probably are vaguely unsatisfied with the way everything wound up.

But either way, now he's in LA. Do you think, Hey, heat legend. Let's hope he continues to burn Wurnish his legacy in honor on some level of our Miami Heats.

Mike, I'm completely satisfied with the way things went with LeBron here, no? Yeah.

The only real issue that I have with it was that he insisted on being traded. So the Miami heat could give him more money on an option that he ended up turning it back on.

We were still paying that move off with draft pics when he was playing for Cleveland.

Right. Miami is in this position in which they never have enough flexibility or maneuverability as much as the next team because because they traded for Chris Bosh. They traded for LeBron James because those guys wanted extra years. They ended up opting out of. And in LeBron's case, Cleveland rebuilt themselves into an attractive destination for him.

And we're still paying off the debt.

On the heels of his initial, I'm going to take my talents to South Beach. So that's what I didn't like. And by the way, the league has learned from that, no one does that shit anymore.

To answer your question, though, Dave, with Bob Brovsky, would I cheer for him if he winds up getting traded to a cup contender this year? It very much depends on where he goes. I think the best example is Dwyane Wade. We all love Dwyane Wade. Love Dwyane Wade. And when Dwyane Wade went and signed with the Chicago Bulls, you think I was rooting for the Chicago Bulls? No. No.

I don't even remember that. I'm pretty sure it never happened.

No. To me, it's about the team, all right? Even if the player is beloved, he's not playing for my team anymore. I don't then root for another team.

Look, when you look at the Florida Panthers' chief rivals, the only team that could possibly be in play because they're all pretty settled at goalie is the Edmonton Oilers, and they're in the West. And that's a nice little bit of banter for Florida Panthers fans. You only won the Stanley Cup because we didn't make the play-off, so you had to get our goalie to do it.

Right, right, Dave. That would be a fun angle where it's like, Hey, you know what? You don't even have to beat us because we're not good enough this year to be in the Stanley Cup playoff. You know what? You can only win with our help. There's a little something in that.

Well, even better. What if you catch? What if it goes... Let's say this, Bob goes to the Edmonton Oilers. At this point, it feels improbable, but let's say they wind up in the final and they catch the Carolina Canes. Boy, that would be sweet for you guys, right?

Wait, Carolina I would be hard for Edminton. If I'm Carolina, I kick the tires on old Bob because their goalie situation, when you get in the playoffs, it's always unsettled over there. They're always trying something new. Carolina is probably more likely because Edmondson is in cap hell. They've already acquired a goal in this year.

Shame the devil, Mike Ryan. You don't want that. And I would trust you, whether you're being... See, now you've gone too far in the fan direction, and now you're advocating for that. Or wait, you're not being enough of a fan. You can't trade him to someone. You can't trade him to a Carolina. No, you can't. That's your number one rival unless Tampa is.

No, I'm with you. I don't think the Panthers entertain that either because I don't think they like Carolina. But if you're the Carolina Huracanes, Look, that front office has been very aggressive. I wouldn't put it past him to consider upgrading at that position. But when we're playing out these scenarios, I don't think he's going to get moved. I think his contract is going to expire. I don't think so either.

Whoa, it is the NHL Trade Deadline. What's going on?

The NHL Trade Deadline, guys. It never stops. The Colorado Avalanche traded a first and a fifth round pick to the Toronto Mapleees for nick Roy.

I don't think- Wow. Okay.

Now, is this nick Roy or nick Wa?

It says Roy, so I don't know.

This might be a Wa. Roy..

Dunlivatar. Lightning. Panthers.

What do you think? Stugatz. Look at this face while I tell this to you. Okay, because I don't want there to be any confusion. You look me right in the eye. Panthers are going to take that ass, man. This This is the Dunlivatar show with the Stugats.

Uh-oh. Right back at you, Tony. It's time. Here we go. It's time to play NHL player prescription drug, everybody. Let's get it going. Tony, you may have noticed, as you just experienced, in fact, as it came off your lips, that some names are confusing in the NHL because some of them are Scandinavian, some of them are from from various corners of Europe. And then the names of a lot of prescription drugs these these days are very fancy, too fancy, in fact. So let's see if you can identify correctly here. Hit me, David. Let's go. Rinvoke.

Rinvoke. I'll stop you right there. I know Rinvoke. It's a prescription. You got to give me a better one than that.

No, but everybody following along.

What's the matter with you? And I'm pretty sure there's What a creep. What a creep. Usually, with this segment. What a creep.

What a creep.

Jeremy.

It's Jeremy's fault, really. He threw me off.

There's usually music.

I'm working on it.

But yeah, tell me, the way you play the game. Jeremy's fault.

You're the one who just decided to announce the answer. Me? The music, no.

The music. It's the music supposed to go, and then I'm supposed to talk.

Here's a question. I saw Tony milling around in there just before we got going here. Tony is tall, and he's one of those people who every time I see him, I'm struck by, and I'm like, Oh, yeah, Tony's tall. Every time I'm in his company, and then I saw him walking around, I was like, Oh, yeah, Tony is still tall down there. Because I know he thinks he's good at football. Is Tony good at basketball, or does Tony merely think he's good at Today, we have to say he's bad because he was on my team and was throwing something as simple as a flip flop into a garbage can and failed miserably.

I'm sorry, Tony. I can't get over it.

From one hoop to another. Wow, I feel-I'm really sorry. Discraced by that because I saw your jumper and I thought it was a little bit flat.

It went in.

It went in. But I want to see the height on that. Was that official 10 feet or was that a little bit lower?

That was official.

Dave, me and you should play one on one, and then we can have that answer.

I don't know what that has to do with anything. You're going to beat a potbellied old man.

That's exactly right. It's good music.

Congratulations.

Dave, you hear the hockey player or prescription tune playing, right? Does he?

It's a little low. I do hear it. Trista, let's do it. You're up next here.

All right. And learn from Tony's mistake, let Dave do the whole spiel.

Yes, by the way, I was going to say check icon, Ilka Rinvoke or rheumatoid arthritis treatment, Rinvoke. Tony already revealed that it is an R-X. Here we go, Trista. Pareco. Pareco. Blues defenseman with a no trade clause, Colton Pareco, or Peroni's disease treatment, Pareco. Pareco.

I'm going to go Blues player.

Very nice Blues defenseman who got traded yesterday. They went through the whole thing. They make the deal, they get the terms just so. And then, and only then, does management go to Colton Pareco and say, Hey, we just traded you. Are you going to waive your no trade clause? And he said, No. And they said, Well, then the trade's off. What are we doing? What are we making trade without even... He has a no trade clause. Isn't that the first thing you do before you start bothering just to save yourself the time?

What gave it away was just too much hockey detail. The no trade clause. I was like, There's just no way this can be.

I would have thought it was the.

I was helping you.

I do love, like Dave mentions there, that he was traded, and then they negotiated the deal, and then they go to the player who has a no movement clause, and he says, not trying to go to Buffalo. When Buffalo works so hard and they negotiate the deal and they They come to an agreement, and then the team comes back and says, Yeah, he said, No. It's got to be so deflating for the end, especially because Buffalo is a really good team this year. It's so insulting for that team, is it not?

How about Tua? We'll take two off your hands, Miami Dolphins, if you also give us your first-round pick.

I'm so glad you brought that up.

That's pretty humiliating for Tua and for the Dolphins who paid them all that money. We'll take them off your hands. You got to give us something worthwhile, too.

Isn't that amazing, though? Okay, so the Dolphins gave... Because I saw that yesterday also. Who knows if it's true? People are making stuff up. But two years ago, Tua is out there, Show me the money. He looked like a total asshole. But they give him the contract two years ago, and now we will trade for this player, but you have to give us a first-round pick.

What is happening there? We've never seen anything like this.

What happened to Tua?

He and Federman, he and John Federman, something happened about 18 or 24 months ago, and they fundamentally changed. Tua was this mild-mannered cat, and then all of a sudden, he gets bonkers on the head one too many times, and he just cannot do anything other than act like he has Wonder Woman's truth lasso around him and just shoot his mouth off like, Yeah, it'd be dope not to be anywhere but here in Miami.

Dan is always puzzled by what happened to Tua. I'm like, I've seen him with fencing fingers, laying on a turf in a prone position multiple times now.

I'm telling you, the thing that's confusing to people is the age, because the thing that's... If two of them were five years old, you'd be like, All right, he's worn out.

Let's stop this. He's not even the most confusing quarterback in the market. Kyler Murray, to me, is more confusing because it looked like they nailed it. He looked incredible his rookie season. They blew out Josh Rosen. Kyler Murray looked electric, and we're like, Man, he's overcoming the height deficiencies. He's incredible. And It's not like he had... I know he's been hurt some, but with Tua, I know where to go to. With Kyler, it's just like, Man, League figured you out in record time.

Quick reminder, by the way, when Kingsbury got that job and they had the number one overall pick and they decided, We're We're going to move Josh Rosen because we're going to draft Kyla Murray. They traded him, of course, to the Dolphins. Do you remember, Trista, what the Dolphins gave up for Josh Rosen?

I don't remember, Zaz.

What was it? Anyone want to offer up what the Dolphins gave- Fifth rounder? Okay. Anyone want to offer up what the Dolphins gave up for him?

I'm sure there were a lot of people- I don't remember. That were worried about the long-term ramifications of it.

Yeah, that's right. Chris Greer gave the Cardinals That's a second-round pick for Josh Rosen.

That's disgusting. Oh, my goodness.

That's actually a win for the Germans.

I still believe in Josh Rosen.

Mike Ryan, to your point about Kyler and see what you want to see their effect and the egos of offensive coordinators and head coaches and franchises at large. We can turn this guy around, which seems foolish, except we just saw Sam Darnal do that. New situation, completely different player. Is there a QB that you see that might be if you just change his situation, Tony way in, too, or everybody, is there a guy who you could see one year from now being like, told you so, see? Just so he had to get out of that bum situation.

Yeah, well, you cited Sam Darnal. Oh, the NHL news.

It's always on. The Utah Mammoth have acquired Mckenzie Wigar.

It's Wigar. What? Wigar. And it's mammoth.

I think Wigar is something else.

He knows what he did.

From the Calgary Flames in exchange for Ali Matta and Jonathan Castagna, and three second-round picks in this year's draft.

I hate Mckenzie Wigar.

That happened yesterday.

Yeah, he's just a blight on the franchise. Just a terrible human being. I feel bad for him. Remember when he even shaved his head? He's like, My hair is the problem. That's why I gave that fuck away. Terrible.

I was lying in bed that game two against Tampa with COVID. I had the vid, and that's what Mckenzie Wiger did while I was suffering with the vid?

He was a panther?

Yeah, he was in a Matthew Kachuk trade.

Is it Castagna? Are we just rolling with that?

I don't think it is.

What is it? Can you guys tell me?

Is it Castaña?

I think it's Castanza.

I think that Kyla Murray is probably the most interesting prospect. You could also look at some of the backups. I know Baygent is somebody that interests people because Ben Johnson seems to really like him. You don't have proof that he stinks, right? So I can see people talking themselves into that upside. But I think Kyla Murray, for example, some of the things that I see on the internet is like, Man, Minnesota should go for him because you mentioned Sam Darnold, head coach over there, built that career back up. Why can't he do that with Kyler? And he has the weapons downfield. That'd be pretty fun. That'd be a really fun team, Kyler throwing a Jefferson.

So So we spent all of the last couple of days talking about the Charlotte Hornets, but we're not going to do that when they're squaring off against the heat.

I just want to get that right. Here in the local hour, we're not going to do that? Correct. Mike, you know I have one rule to live by, right?

Don't place parlays on multiple long shots. Don't say a game is one when it hasn't hit triple zero.

Always drink your Jägermeister ice cold. That's the rule. Everything else is merely a suggestion.

Everything else?

Everything else.

Wearing clean underwear every day?

Well, that's just a personal decision.

Brushing your teeth?

Obviously smart, but not a rule.

Never PP on an electric fence.

Okay, maybe there are two rules, but the one that is 100% that I insist on completely, Jägermeister must be drank ice cold. Or don't drink it at all. Damn, that's cold.

Exactly.

You're finally starting to get it.

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