Transcript of Local Hour: The Biggest Bust In Franchise History

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The Miami Hérald is reporting that the Miami heat have injected a, quote, jolt of intrig. Zaz, was that you just clearing the snot in your nose on right into your microphone? No. I'm pretty sure that I just heard the clearing of snot- You're hearing things.

No, you're mistaken.

I'm pretty sure that radio and audio professional Jonathan Zaslow just started his week by clearing snot from his nose- Making things up. Into the microphone. Didn't hear it. The loudest sound I've heard from a body since Greg Cody's stomach growled like a small animal.

Why are you making things up?

How did you feel How did you feel about Tua being released here this morning? Because Jeremy's claiming it's to get us to not talk about the jolt of intrigue that Barry Jackson is reporting that the heat have injected into the season. That's right.

How did I feel about Tua being released this morning? I told you how I felt about it when I reported it, I don't know, probably three weeks ago?

It was a month ago. We have that sound. We have found the sound of Zaslow reporting before everyone else that Tua was going to be released. But macro instead of micro, though. I'm not talking about whether you got it right or whether or not something in the last month is relevant. I'm talking about a quarterback who is here for many years, not unlike Ryan Tannehill, and it ends with a fart noise.

Well, Well, he can find a new team now. It's going to be pretty dope. I mean, it's what he wanted. Said it'd be real dope if he could find a new home. I think Tua is the biggest bust in franchise history.

That's wild to say because didn't he lead the league in passing?

Let me simplify it for you. We did pretty much two years of Tank for Tua. This was a major story here for a couple of years. They get their guy, they get Tua. If I would tell you that Tank for Tua leads to zero playoff victories, is that a bust or not? But nothing, yes or no?

I guess it's a disappointment, but he led the league in passing. I don't think he's more disappointing than, say, Deion Jordan.

Is this a bust? 44 and 32 record as a starter, 18,000 passing yards, 20 passing TDs versus 59 interceptions. So a 2 to 1 TD to interception rate. Is that bust?

No. I understand the context that Zaz is applying, the hype. This guy was supposed to save the franchise. He did not deliver on that. But I will say, there were a couple of times where it felt like he might be.

So 12 quarterbacks have gotten contracts worth at least $50 million annually over the past four years. Two was the first to get released. And I don't think that you can separate these things from the money, right? He's calling it a bust, at least in part because of how high he was drafted. Mike's mentioning Deion Jordan. That's a top 10 pick who gave you nothing. That's a pass rusher who gave you absolutely nothing as a top 10 pick. Top 10 pick is Ruben I think he went top five, Deion Jordan.

Yeah, I think he was number three. But Deion Jordan wasn't expected to lead your franchise. We felt that way because he was drafted number three overall. When you select a quarterback at the top of the draft, he's supposed to lead your franchise.

They traded up to get him as well. But what you guys just did to me there is funny, where I made him a top 10 pick, and you're like, He's better than that. He's top five. And then you said he was number three, which makes him top three, not top five.

Top three. More disappointing, Zaz.

This is the Dan Levatore Show with the Stugats podcast. The Dolphins' new ownership, leadership is now in a position where they are fumigating the building. If Jason Sanders isn't already gone, he's about to be. It's 27 straight field goals, 9 for 9 from 50 plus. They couldn't agree on a contract. That was a serviceable kicker. I don't know why it is that they would get rid of him. I'm assuming he's just counting. He's asking for too much money. Alec Ingold is leaving as well. He's joining Mike McDaniel with the Chargers.

People felt that one.

I mean, He's a fan favorite. The dolphins haven't had a lot of those over the years. Just a little guy who's overachieving out there anytime he does anything. You talk about Tua being a bust because of expectations. Alec Ingold is a fan favorite because of the lack of expectations. He was so small, but they're clearly fumigating the buildings as. It's a startover project where dolphin fans have to be wildly frustrated by the fact that 25 years into an experiment that doesn't have a payoff when you're back at everything is starting over now. You don't have a quarterback. Gino Smith's preferred destination is Miami. He went to Miramar High School. So the reports are that this is where he wants to be. I guess the The options are, you can't get excited about Gino Smith, but the options are Malik Willis and Kyler Murray, right?

All signs are pointed Malik Willis to go to Arizona, it seems.

So this means that the thing that's left is Kyler Murray. Why in God's name would he choose here, we talked last week about why he would choose the Jets when he's going to have skill position limitations. He'd have those here as well.

No, he should go to Minnesota, Kyler Murray, very clearly. That'd be great for him. You got weapons there. You have a coach who has proven what he could do with a quarterback, and you have a chance to be the starter. Kyler Murray, Minnesota feels like a thing.

Let's examine this for a second, because this was, amazingly enough, this was just a couple of years ago. Let's play the sound of Tua. He told us this was him just trying to cash a bet with one of his teammates, where his teammate dared him to do something like this, and then he did it. This was merely two years ago.. The money is always an interesting thing in sports because that sport is salary capped for no good reason. The players have no one to blame but themselves because they collectively bargain the salary cap. And there is no reason that other than it's been collectively bargained and owners want to fix costs because Jerry Jones can't be trusted to not spend a billion dollars trying to get Patrick Mahomes, literally no matter what the cost, if you don't have a salary cap. So we're always talking about the money, but the money is the biggest gulf between fans and players. It's the biggest problem, even though I can make reasonable arguments that most of the players in that sport are underpaid. A few are paid fine, but most of them are underpaid for what it is that they're doing.

Salary cap restrictions make it so that we're always talking about the money. But the salary cap hit that two is going to be going forward is more damaging than the Deshawn Watson one is and will be over the next couple of years. I thought the Deshawn Watson contract is the worst in the history of that sport. And yet Tua is more damaging over the next two years, just financially, in terms of what it's cost you to simply release him. I've not read because it just happened, so I haven't read the details. I'm not a salary cap expert. Why are they releasing him this minute? Because they said last week that all options were on the table. They were saying at the scouting combine that they were still trying... They said, they put their name on, there has been interest in Tua, but they get nothing for him now.

You know that's not true, though. I mean, there's interest.

There's no way. Kyler Murray, I guess, would have a bigger market, and they ended up releasing him, too. All the teams in the league know that we're not going to give you anything for these guys. We're not going to let you off the hook. You're not going to get anybody to willingly absorb this.

Did you even believe there was a report a couple of days ago that there is a team out there that would be willing to trade for Tua, but you have to attach a first-round pick to it? I don't even know if I believe that.

Well, they said there's interest, and I don't think they'd say... I'm going to give the new leadership the benefit of the doubt that they're not going to just They're not going to open with lying to our face when they are saying there's interest. I want to give you some numbers here, though, because I remember many, many years ago when the Marlins got Carlos Delgado in a non-salary cap sport. He got so much money. And one of the stats that was given then when he got so much money is that you cannot tie up in a non-salary cap sport and win, you cannot tie up a disproportionate percentage of your salary cap in one player in baseball and win. Here's the numbers on 15 quarterbacks who were on the books for at least $45 million a year last year. Six of them made the playoffs. Six of 15 made the playoffs, and none got past the divisional round. Eight finished below 500. So half of the quarterbacks, you've got to hit, you have to hit on a star if you're paying him this in a salary-capped league. Two of what Kyler Murray and Kirk Cousins are all going to be released.

Deshawn Watson obviously didn't play, but that's 15 quarterbacks, and six made the playoffs, none past the divisional round, and eight finished below 500. You can't do it that way unless it's Mahomes and what you also can't do, and the Dolphins did this. You see what the Rams are doing again with McDuffy, with paying their corners? They're behaving as if they're player away because Stafford's old and they have to win the Stafford window. They know they've got a quarterback. Mcvay is going to get exposed, at least some, when he doesn't have that professionalism anymore at the quarterback. It's not even his fault. Your quarterback has to be great, but he especially has to be great if you're paying him the way that the Dolphins were paying Tua.

Well, yeah, the way the league works now, clearly, if you're paying your quarterback top money, if he's being paid in the top 7, 8, 9, 10 quarterbacks in the league, he has to be a Hall of Fame caliber quarterback. That's the only way to win when they're making that much money. So you have two ways to win with your quarterbacks. Either he's a Hall of Fame caliber quarterback or your quarterback is on the rookie contract, so he's performing So far above the value. And that's why Kyler Murray was making the money, not a Hall of Fame caliber quarterback. Kirk Cousins, Tua Tonga-Vailoa, those guys are getting paid the top dollar. They are not in that category. You cannot win with them.

But we have to admit that when those contracts were signed, there was plenty of scrutiny applied to it. Everyone knew these were potential ticking time bombs, and they ended up being so. I do want to clean one thing up. You said that the Dolphins announced immediately that they're releasing them, but part of that statement was they're going to wait until the new league year starts, and there's a reason for that because the NFL salary cap isn't real.

Yeah, that post-June first designation means that the $99 million in dead cap will be spread over two years. So it's just a tick over $67 million for this upcoming season, and then just a tick under $32 million for the following year.

And isn't the timing of it being today is because free agency starts in three hours from now.

Yeah, you want to do right by him and let him know what his options are, have the marketplace, have a deep understanding of what his situation is.

When Jeremy hits you with that number, though, 67 million for a quarterback to not play, pair that against what Moss just told everybody Messi's making for Inter Miami, which is between 70 and 80 million dollars. So for that amount of money, Enter Miami gets the best soccer player there's ever been, and he actually plays, and his contract is through 2028. For the amount of money that Tua is counting against the cap here. The Dolphins get a quarterback who's not going to play today, who they release. That is an uncommon disaster. Whether it's the biggest bust in franchise history or not, I don't know I'm willing to say that, given that he did give them seven years of play and was their starter and did lead the league in offense one time. But as a financial move, it's unquestionably a disaster in a salary cap sport that you gave this guy all this money two years ago and two years later, you are simply cleaning house in a way that I don't think the dolphins have ever cleaned house. I think this is the biggest fumigation of the facility that there has ever been.

Why are they cleaning house?

Because they haven't playoff game in 25 years, and largely, they had a general manager in charge who was allowed to stay in charge without winning a playoff game more than any general manager in the league has ever been, was allowed during that time period to stay in charge with that failure.

All correct. If the quarterback worked out, would they be cleaning house today? No. Biggest bust in franchise history.

So what goes into that classification? Because the guys I think of are Eric Kummero, the guys I think of are Daddy Bosa, the original Bosa, who spawned past rushers, his sperm, better at rushing the passer than he was. Good sperm. You got Bosa, you got Kumaro in franchise history.

Deon Jordan.

Samy Smith, Sammy Smith.

You tell green, but that was injury.

But they didn't have to reset the franchise when those guys didn't work out.

John Avery. That one stung.

I still can smell the nachos on Jimmy Johnson Wilson's breath as he explained to me why it is that John Avery was the right pick over Randy Moss.

You know, John Avery might be up there. John Avery, when you consider that Randy Moss- Late first round. Oh, yeah, but Randy Moss was on the board, and that was the debate. Avery is pretty bad.

Late first round. But that is a funny way we do bust, though, right? It's who they could have gotten instead. I remember basically all of my viewpoints on coaching smarts, disintegrating with the smell on Jimmy Johnson's breath as he explained to me why John Avery was the correct pick over Randy Maw.

Was there jalapeno or just the nacho chips?

It was just the chips. You know that chip breath?

A little salanchro?

A little hint. No, it was just all... It smelled all like Tostitos.

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We got to go back out there. That was big.

Wake Pick him up. He doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that as a result. He needs something that happens. You can see him mother-efficially. Can we bother?

Are we bothering you right now?

Turn on your microphone, Greg. My microphone It's on. Stugatz.

Paint the scene.

The paint the scene is I got to go to work. Good night. This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugatz.

Two coaches and a general manager served, but two coaches and a general manager were fired because two of them work out.

Yeah. I mean, I don't know that Brian Flores merited being fired on record.

Well, not on... And you know what? I'll take that one back because he wasn't really fired because two of them wasn't good. He was fired for a handfan.

Yeah, but he was also fired. He was also fired because he didn't believe in to it.

And the way that he went about it. Right.

Yeah, I take that back.

Yeah. I mean, that's how the league goes, though. You build around the quarterback, if the quarterback doesn't work out, you usually go down with that quarterback.

Jeremy is wearing a jacket, and I'm not sure if it's because he's working very hard. I've noticed Jeremy's working very hard around here, and then I see him late at night also sitting next to Ron Rostein and doing an assortment of things on the heat broadcast. Did you wear a jacket in because you forgot that this was the job that you were coming in? No, it's because I'm a professional. Okay. I'm a pro-broadcaster, and I'm a pro-analyst, clearly, because I have continued continuously been right, not just this season, but for several years about the Miami Heat.

And I am waiting for my apology. I'm waiting for my apology. You guys wasted me all last week for believing that the heat could beat the Hornets and the Pistons over the weekend, and that they were starting to ascend. They've They're on five in a row. They're one of the hottest teams in basketball. Bam and Abayo is right at the top of the league in on off. He's potentially coming in as a dark horse for his first defensive player of the year, despite the fact that it should have been for years and years and years, averaging 24, 10, and three. He's been spectacular. And so is Tyler Hero.

Bam has been great. I'm not an apology. Tyler Hero, you're not on an apology yet. Tyler Hero has been very good. Tyler has been great. Against Charlotte, he went 33, 9, and 9. Well, it looks- Zero turnovers. And zero turnovers. Anyone's going to look great when they go 8 for 10 from three. He did go 8 for 10 from three. How many guys can do that? Brian Shaw did it. You got me there, Dan.

There are a few- Shaw was 10 of 15 that night.

There have been... Go look at the number of heat players.

Look at the list above Tyler here.

I'm going to look at it.

Specifically 8 for Mario Chambers.

Adjusted for inflation, Brian Shaw hit 33s in a game.

Most threes in a game by a Heat player. That was crazy. It's not an impressive list. It really isn't an impressive list.

He made his first six that night. That was crazy.

But you mentioned Charlotte, and it was a nice win because we were really talking up Charlotte to go on the road. I don't believe this heat team can win road games, but they keep telling us they're better than their, as the record indicates. Right now, they're the hottest team in the league. They beat Eric Collins's team. Eric Collins is the broadcaster who screams and yells. He's going to be on with us later in the show. Let's just give the people a sampling of what it is that Eric Collins does. La Bella. Yes.

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Make it hurt, Trey. Looking like Mitz Carter. Trey may not come alive. The greatest shot by La Bella Ball.

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This is Hornets Basketball. Roy, cut up a couple of those that sound most like someone being shivved in prison so that I could just play again and again the difference between true Hornets elation and someone being stabbed with a sharp object. I'd like to see what the difference is between those two things.

We're just going to let Jeremy say he's been right about the heat for several years. I have been.

Okay. You keep doing it.

I mean, but I have actually been right.

No, you've been gaslighting me.

Unless you've been saying that- For four years about this stuff. Hold on. Excuse me. I reclaimed my time. Jeremy, you haven't been saying that the Miami heat are going to go out in the first round of the NBA playoffs for the last few years. That makes you wrong.

No, what I've been saying is that they shouldn't tank and they have pieces to build around.

I reclaimed my time. Okay. I reclaimed my time. That was a very nice win against Charlotte. This is what the Miami Heat do. They'll give you one good win, maybe rattle off a good week.

That was an incredible game Friday night against Charlotte.

No, and that's a tough place to play. We've been there where the franchise that has been down bad for a little bit, starts believing-Not a tough place to play.

Not at all.

But that was a good atmosphere.

It's one of the arenas that you routinely get on that show.

I reclaimed my time. I reclaimed my time. I had the sound up for this game. That was a good atmosphere in Charlotte. They were starting to believe there was reason for real excitement. That was a real good performance from Miami. The Pistons, I'm a little confused by. They've had a wretched week. They were on the back end of a back to back. I just started watching the NBA this week, and I can tell you, the Detroit Pistons are the worst team in the league, from what I can tell.

They are very physical basketball team. They have gone through a rough patch. It's going to get rough in the playoffs when they're counting on two-fifths of their starting lineup being Duncan Robinson and Tobias Harris, who Myron Gardner felt comfortable enough yesterday to call him the B-word three times called Tobias Harris. Tobias Harris is running around out there and has been for many years for no discernible reason. Tobias Harris, I would not trust at all, and They are counting on him in Detroit. They are limited offensively after Cunningham. They really are. There are some limits to what it is that they can do. I think that Baltimore and the Knicks are... I go back He went forth on the Knicks because of how close that series was last year with Detroit. Max Crosby trade. That's why. When I look at Detroit, I see a very physical team, and winning with physical teams is another way of doing it in the modern age. Nobody Nobody's really trying it that way in the modern age.

Yeah, but you're right, though, about what they're going to look like in the playoffs. When you're playing a good defensive team in the postseason in a seven-game series, and they're going to focus on Cade Cunningham, and you don't have really anyone after him that can score. I think Detroit... It's weird to say that a team that's 45 and 18. They may be in a little bit of trouble, but I feel like they may be in a little bit of trouble.

I will surprise you guys, though. There is something I've said last week in regards to the NBA that I need to walk back and apologize. Jason Tatum and the Celtics.

Jason Tatum, no aura.

No aura. I mean, they've looked pretty good since he's come back.

But Tatum, no aura.

Crazy that that was your take and your take along.

They won at Cleveland, and Boston is really good and has been for a while. I would assume that the Miami Heat are a team, specifically, that Boston would prefer not to have anywhere around, because over a seven-game series with Spolstra as your coach, it's going to require Jalen Brown and Tatum to be better than they've been the last few times that they faced the Miami Heat in the playoffs, and that could be a substantive ask. But the Celtics for years now, when healthy, have been a good deal better than everyone in the East. I saw over the weekend, we have a number of mistakes around here, and the worst mistakes that we though, are right at the beginning of the broadcast. I saw that Pablo Tori at the Sloan conference, David Samson wouldn't shut up at the beginning of what it is that they were doing at the Sloan conference. I could see Pablo getting frustrated because you want to get the kite up in the air at the start of a broadcast. I know that Ernie Johnson nod his face off when the other day for the first time this season, he welcomed everyone into the ESPN broadcast by saying it was TNT.

Right at the beginning. Mustle memory.

That's That's tricky.

But it was right at the start. I know. I sometimes call Zaz Stugatz by accident. You've heard me do it a couple of times here. The first couple of months that Shannon Sharp was on with Steven A, he kept calling him Skip by mistake. Come on, Skip. But Ernie somehow managed to go several months without doing it and then did it right while welcoming everyone in.

Did he acknowledge it? Yeah.

He's like, Oh, he was mortified. He's like, Oh, it happened. I knew it was going to happen. And then they started sinking into I never see that show. That show sinks into the mistakes, but the mistakes are never Ernie's. The show sinks into the mistakes because it's a bunch of other guys, and Ernie's the one tethering the whole thing together so that the others can make the mistakes. I saw it as a broadcast professional, I felt for Ernie Johnson because he was mortified. It was as if he had seen something paranormal wandering around the studio, and it was a segment of his past that was coming to haunt him. But when I put in front of you the numbers on Messi, because Mas pointed out, I've never heard the stadium sponsor is called Nu, N-U. It's a Brazilian financial service. I don't know anything about them, but they're going to be able to refer to it as Inter Miami's new stadium, which really works as a... And he was explaining why it is that he had to take them as the sponsor, because it's very difficult. The Marlins had this difficulty. Very few businesses in Miami actually are able to support the big sports, major league sports things that we have here.

It's why you have so many attorneys sponsoring the Miami Heat stuff. It's why the baseball park is called Loan Depot, and it's why Inter Miami could not find a local sponsor to pay the amount of money that it costs to pay Messy between $70 and $80 million. But when I say that number to you guys, and Jeremy says that two is going to cost $67 million against the cap, and it's what Inter Miami is paying messy. When you talk about how it is that franchises in this market have gone from spending money well to get to the top, like the Panthers, like the heat, the heat don't have a lot of busts in their history. Michael Beazley qualifies, but there's not a lot of wasted money, and you cannot waste money in a salary cap sport in one player who doesn't work out, who you wake up on Monday morning and you've just released to play for someone You realize the Dolphins, he's going to be able to salvage his career by playing for a small amount of money wherever he goes. He's going to go to a place where he's going to be either the best backup in the league or somebody who's able to rejuvenate his career because he's gone someplace to get back to big money making as they pay him the minimum and the Dolphins end up paying the entirety of a giant salary.

There is an option three. Option three is he continues this downward trajectory and he's out of the league in a couple of years.

The most likely option.

He's not that skilled anymore, and it could be a byproduct of the head injuries.

Oh, but he's a low-level starter right now. You saw last year, the second half of the season, how many bad quarterbacks were playing because every year in that league, you have, by the end of the season, an assortment of Kenny Pickets playing because they're low-level starters and you just need competence.

Oh, he's certainly going to get another shot around the in a situation that'll give him a pathway to playing unless he goes to a team that is fully solidified at the position. It's just like, Give me a get-right year where I can learn at this staff. Let me go to LA so I can refurbish my career the way that Baker Mayfield did under this coaching staff. I just became Pat McAfee there for his coaching staff.

While there's nothing official and conversations are still ongoing. Was that a fake Schefter?

Because it was excellent. It was pretty good.

It was excellent.

I feel like there's I tried at the beginning, and then I lost confidence in it. Why? It was good. You got this. There's nothing official. It's so good. Conversations are still ongoing. Stugatz. It is trending towards nick Seriani, remaining the head coach of the Eagles. This is the Dan Levatard Show with the Stugats.

It sounds like you were eager to get in here because you've got a lot of Tua opinions.

Yeah, I still feel like every time that you bring up the things that have gone wrong with Tua, and specifically how much you count against the salary cap. In a salary cap sport, you can't be making that much money and have it not work out. But you're giving more evidence to me saying this is the biggest bust in franchise history. I understand guys like Deion Jordan amounted to literally nothing with the team, but you didn't have to reset the franchise. You didn't have to pay him when guys like that didn't work out with Tua. They gave him a record contract, the most money the team's ever given in franchise history. And two years later, they're paying him to not be on their team anymore.

It is interesting to me to watch the Rams go all in on right now. The Ravens. The Ravens have never done what they just did, where they give up a bunch of future capital for a Max Crosby because they feel like they're a piece away. The Dolphins thought they were a piece away when they gave Bradley Chubb that money. That's a egregious mismanagement to think, to look at the roster construction and do something like that because you think you're a piece away. When we can all look at the Ravens and rams and say, Okay, I understand how they come about the analysis, we're a piece away. The Dolphins were playing like they were a piece away, and now two years later, their quarterback's gone. It This is an Apocalypse. It is so crippling. I thought Deshawn Watson, and I'm right, is a contract you can't recover from. When you fail that badly with that pick and that guaranteed money, it's going to set your franchise back for several years, and the dolphins are in the same position and don't have Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett, who drives at a rate of speed that you would think he would no longer drive at, nine speeding tickets since 2017, including in the middle of that, an accident you would think he would learn from.

He drives way too fast and is reckless, and I don't feel like anyone is surprised that he's reckless. I feel like everyone's just saying to themselves, Yeah, he goes 100 miles an hour everywhere at all times.

Yeah, why wouldn't he drive like that. It's not like the negative that could happen is death. Why would he do that?

It is like the way that they say other athletes go onto the golf course and can't help but put giant gambling stakes on it because they need to be so ultra competitive all the time. They can't turn For him, it just happens to be speed. But for other people, it's competitiveness. So they go insane on gambling on XYZ.

What do you guys do with nine speeding tickets since 2017? I told you guys that I did not start wearing a seat belt until Derek Thomas died in a car accident not wearing a seat belt. It took me that long in life to learn the lesson. Miles Garrett was in the car accident and is still consistently driving around at 190 and 100 miles an hour.

So your car would just be beeping and you're like, I don't care. I'm not going to put on the seat belt?

It was before the beep. I don't know when the beep was invented.

That's an annoying sound.

Yeah, my car did not have that beep at the beginning. I wouldn't be driving around with the terrible beep at all times.

The Miami Dolphins have traded Minka Fitzpatrick.

Again.

What are the details on that? It's one of the few pieces that they have that is tradable. They don't have many.

Seventh round pick, New York Jets.

Okay, that is... Hold on a second. It's That's a great point that Roy brings up there. How many players ever have been traded by a team twice? That can't be something that's happened a lot, right?

In all of sports, I'm assuming that Ricky Henderson and Bobby Booney in baseball were both traded multiple times by the same team. But you're thinking it hasn't happened much across sports?

I feel like that's a really rare thing.

I mean, it certainly is in football. It's not something that I think, We'll look it up here because this is just happening now. But the fact that the dolphins have very few tradable pieces, it really... When Greg Cody was on here a couple of weeks ago and they had just released Bradley Chubb, he said to me, What are you so upset about? Wouldn't you have done that? And I was like, Yeah, I would have done that. But this recurring frustration is fairly amazing to witness locally. The sport rewards when you're bad. I'm not joking when I say, I could have put anyone in charge over the last 25 years and stumbled into a playoff victory. The Dolphins have the longest playoffless drought in the sport without a win, right? It's longer than even the Raiders. During this time, we've seen the Patriots fall and get back up again. During this time, we saw the Bills go 17 straight seasons without getting a playoff win to now having the MVP of the league and expecting to be in the playoffs. Do you guys disagree with me when I say I could have put any management in charge for the last 25 years, anybody, and gotten a playoff win?

Mathematically, how many teams haven't? How many teams have not had a playoff win In 25 years where you're just sitting there waiting for them to get better based on the medicine the league gives you to get better. It's a major market. People want to play here. People want to live here. 25 years, I'm not They're not saying. They say that if you put a million monkeys at a million computers, eventually they'll produce Shakespeare. But if I put any management team that's not primate, if I put any management team at all over 25 Five years. You don't think I'm going to get a playoff win, Zazla?

One playoff win. D'angelo Russell was traded by the Lakers twice, both times to the Brooklyn Nets.

Both times to the Nets?

Brandon Cooke has been traded four times in his career, that's the most times anyone has ever been traded in the NFL, just four times overall. I can't find an example of someone being traded by the same team twice. I'm like a dog with a bone on this, so I'll find it.

Well, see Ricky Henderson. Look up Ricky Henderson and Gary Sheffield, who were nomads who were great, and it's rare for nomads. It's rare for the great ones to be nomads, Hall of Fame talents. It's good to see that Roy is back, and I want to publicly accuse him of the same thing I've been accusing him of privately, which is going to Key West for a weekend fishing and barbecue tournament, and he left last week on Tuesday. I'm pretty sure everyone listening to this knows that the keys are asleep Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. Nothing happens in Key West until Friday. You've been off since Tuesday with this company, Griff. You and Rose have been fishing and barbecuing on company time. How did you end up doing?

We didn't win, Dan. The best we did was we finished third in a category which was turkey. But we did not do well in day one with the fishing. We thought that we would do well day two on a sandball party that had a people Dose Choice Award, but that didn't go too well either, apparently. And day three, I thought we had a good cook, but apparently not. Judging is subjective.

Just throw him under the bus.

I'm not throwing anybody under the bus. I thought we had a A good cook. We should have won.

Not a good cook as in a person, a good cook as in the result of the cooking.

Yes, the result of cooking. Okay.

Misunderstood. Okay, so did I. I thought that they had Dave Williamson, who is a good cook. That's what I'm here for, Dave. He won the Championship You guys won the Championship last year. You were the defending champion. So it's not merely that you grifted off of the company for three days, enjoying a lovely barbecue and fishing vacation three days before Key West awoke, you also failed while you were out there.

That's right, Dan. It was a four-man team, myself, Dave, Jody, and Chico. We thought we did well, but not according to the judges.

Also lacking in self-awareness as well. Not just failures who grift off the company for three days, but also lacking in total self-awareness where you think you had produced something that was tasty and award-winning, and instead you just failed.

You are right, Dan. You are absolutely correct.

Found a player in Major League Base history that was traded for himself. He was the player to be named later. Harry Cheedy.

I don't believe you.

No. Harry Cheeedy. He was a Cleveland baseball player. I'm an ally. Got acquired by the Mets and then was sent back to the Cleveland baseball team, ally, as a player to be named later in the deal.

Ricky Henderson was traded four times. Gary Sheffield was traded five times. Jesse Chávez, 11 times. Leads Major League Base.

We're looking for traded by the same team. Yeah, I know. Twice.

I'm looking for it. Keep looking for it. See what it is that you find. Some of the players that we're mentioning might make you feel old, but I've got something right now that I believe represents the oldest I have ever felt as it regards watching an athlete do something, and I'm including dying in the conversation. Because I've told you, I feel very old when I see Jermaine O'Neill Jr. Playing for SMU EU. I feel very old whenever people from my past die, people from my childhood die. But I have never felt older than seeing Deion Sanders do an actual commercial for Depends Diapers.

Oh, no.

Now, it's bladder cancer, so I don't mean to shame him. But when I think of Depends, I think of ancient people. When I think of people who have to wear diapers in public, I think of the President of our country.

I think therein lies the problem. Depends has several practical uses for people that don't look like that.

That is correct. But when I saw Deon Sanders, specifically, doing an ad for DePenz when he can do ads for whoever he wants. I did not think that it was him trying to take the stigma off Depends. I thought that Depends paid an enormous amount of money well beyond the rate in order to get Deion Sanders to do that commercial.

I mean, this is like Jimmy Johnson doing extends commercials, right?

Not quite. Extends and impudence is something different. He just wanted cash. Can you guys get me that ad, please? Find me the commercial that Jimmy Johnson did in a race car outfit. It's a good call by Roy, but put it on the poll as well at Lebitard Show. Does it make you feel old to see Deion Sanders doing a commercial for Depends Divers? Yes or no?

Antoine Walker, traded from Boston to Dallas in '03, reacquired in '05, traded to the heat. Mike, you know I have one rule to live by, right?

Don't place parlays on multiple long shots. Don't say a game is one when it hasn't hit triple zero.

Always drink your Jägermeister ice cold.

That's the rule. Everything else is merely a suggestion.

Everything else?

Everything else.

Wearing clean underwear every day?

Well, that's just a personal decision.

Brushing your teeth?

Obviously smart, but not a rule.

Never PP on an electric fence.

Okay, maybe there are two rules, but the one that is 100% that I insist on completely, Jägermeister must be drank ice cold. Or don't drink it at all. Damn, that's cold.

Exactly. You're finally starting to get it.

Drink responsibly. Jägermeister L'Core, 35% alcohol by volume, imported by Mass Jägermeister US, White Plains, New York.