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We did it, Joe. Dance video influenced NBA basketball narratives. They bought it hook, line, and sinker. You know who else who bought it? Heat fans. Oh, yeah. They are dumb. I got it shared in group chats by some of the biggest heat marks you'd ever find. But what was really great was getting it in group chats from people who are not heat fans who were roasting Dan. Did they not see Dan break? I think nobody actually watched his video. That's true. And they just looked at the poll quote. He looks so fat, which is why we had that poll quote. Yeah, it was an unfortunate angle for him. Yeah, not good. He looked really bad. And so did his quote, unquote, reporting. That, by the way, Barry Jackson also took as fact. Dan confirms our reporting. It was incredible. To the original point about the heat marks. Bee Jacks ran with it. I just can't believe anybody watched that video and thought that those were Dan's words, but it immediately changed the national narrative, too. Given the reaction to it, I now think it's possible to trick people into thinking, Kalel wear is good? Kalel, no.

It's crazy to think that not but 2 hours after Dan said that and we put it out on social media, that Brian Windhorst started saying, Well, the warriors package isn't very good, and, Hey, that heat package might be better than the warriors, and actually somewhat feasible. Now, as of this morning, it seems like he's saying, Well, I think you'll stay with the bucks, but if not, it's the heat. Coward. Something better happened today. That's great, coward. Something better happen or I'm going to lose my freaking mind.

This is the Dan Levatore Show with the Stugats podcast.

Zazlo, I'm super frustrated, okay? Because I have not done the things that I have tried to do over the course of a career that is painfully long. To have this portion of my career be me as an old man chasing people off my lawn because of the way you guys are bleeping with me. All right? You know I don't want to do radio row most years, so you tricked me to doing trade stuff. This week, you want to do trade deadline stuff. When I've said for years, the only thing that happens at the trade deadline is George Hill gets traded. Now, you guys are all excited about Yannis, and so we're doing extra show today, a lot of extra show today. We're going to do a live stream after the show around the trade deadline. The only reason we're doing it is so you could see our reaction to, did they get Yannis or did they not get Yannis? But I think we're just going to be sitting there for 2 hours because I think before that, the whole thing is going to fall apart because you've seen Windhorses reporting he's now gone from 51: 49 to 60: 40.

He's not going to be traded. He's moved the number.

9% moved the last 24 hours.

Wendy is on get up every day. They're working him to death. Put it on the Pollet Lebitard show. Is ESPN trying to kill Wendy?

Why do you always pull George Hill? I mean, Jimmy Butler was traded at the deadline last year. There are so many superstars that move at the deadline. No, but he's right, though. You keep going back to George Hill.

George Hill was always the piece of a championship team that needed to make a move.

It is always Dennis Schroeder now.

It's a fallacy. Dan makes every trade deadline about the George Hill acquisition when that was an outlier.

I have allowed you guys to take Super Bowl week and turn it into Trade Deadline Week. It's on me. I'm bad at sending boundaries around here. But as I complain to you guys about I'm tired of being the old guy chasing kids out of my yard, I'm explaining to everybody I'm playing Whac-a-mole using a phrase that an old man would use that young people don't understand to describe how it is you guys make me feel because I can never hit everybody because something else pops up. The thing you guys did to me yesterday, making me look that fat with your AI distortions on my lower body. The thing that you guys did yesterday to me while I was in a poorly acted hostage situation, reading words that Jeremy wanted me to read about the heat. What are you shaking your head about?

I don't know what you're talking about.

It couldn't have been that poor because it did the job. We accomplished what we wanted yesterday. That's not poor.

Well, you accomplished- It did. It's actually frightening how easy it is to shift the national narrative. All it took was you, Kerry, which honestly pisses me off about the Miami CFP thing, but we'll leave that for another day.

You look good You guys distorted that to make me look like that. I do not look like that. You guys-What?

What happened?

All right, so just to explain to everybody exactly how this got...

No joke. You look like fat bastard.

Explain to... Come on, guys. You can't. You Dan keep expanding this.

The audio audience damn, keeps getting fatter.

That's the one I remember.

That's the one I remember yesterday.

That's the original. The man, Gino Abbey, has competition.

All right, so just explain to people what it is that happened with anybody picking up the nonsense of yesterday. Now, the starting point, Zazlo, on this is I'm in another room and I'm acting very poorly. I'm acting very poorly under as if I'm doing something under duress and against my will. But I want it to be believable enough that it gets picked up, and I don't believe I executed that. I don't believe what I gave you guys with your distortions making me that fat. I don't believe that what I gave you guys was usable. What do you mean it worked? What do you mean it got picked up? It was terrible.

Barry Jackson ran with it as fact.

The media ran with the words that came out of that picture's mouth.

You didn't run.

They ran, though.

My stomach, Chris. You're laughing. All right, I'm sorry to do this to the audio audience, but I'm promising you, if you're not on YouTube right now, this is worth it to see how it is that they've used these distortions to inflate me and make me even more insecure about my weight than I already am. I'm plenty insecure about it the way it stands, but the way your back hurts from laughing, Chris.

Your hand is still the same Even so is my head.

My head is the same size. The thing the rest of me keeps implading, and that looks totally realistic. It's the part that's infuriating about it is how realistic that looks.

You look like Brendan Fraser in the Whale.

You got me as fat bastard. It looks like fat bastard. You got me? And the body shame is out of control. You guys don't believe that we're going to be waiting today because we're doing a live stream after the show for two hours. You don't think we're just going to be sitting around, fooling around. You think we're going to be announcing a Yana's trade? The trade deadline is at three o'clock. You guys think this is what Wendy is saying on Get Up This Morning, okay?

Tell you what, if we don't get a Yannis Trade 301, I'm out of here.

Yeah. Read the Windhorse report. But I'd handicap the chances of Yannis at 40%, given what happened with Golden State. That's pretty good. But something better happen. If it's not Yannis, it better be Ja. This is a legacy day for Pat Reilly. Really? He needs to do something.

Really? Something needs to Really? Put it on the poll at Levitard Show. Is this a legacy day for Pat Reilly? I got to think if there's a legacy that's secure, it would be that one. But I just saw Bill Belichick not get put in the Hall of Fame, so what do I know?

I don't want to make it about us, but you can't do what Reilly did the other night with Jeremy and I about, I got Ellesberg going after Wales and then not get him here.

Wait a minute, but he's been doing that for years.

I'm just saying, on the week of the trade deadline, coming out and being like, I got my guy going after him.

When Pat Reilly arrived to the Miami Heat, he changed the organization by making a big-time superstar acquisition. He traded Glenn Rice, and he brought Alonso morning.

November third, 1995. Then every single build around the core was centered around, let's acquire a superstar.

Sometimes I got it in the draft, which was rare because they were never in the lottery, but it would be, let's go out and get Shaq. Let's go out and get LeBron. Let's build for three years to get LeBron. It's not a small amount of years anymore. It's been five years where that's always been the plan. Let me get somebody next to Jimmy Butler that's better than Jimmy Butler. It's obvious to everyone. And he struck out and he struck out and he struck out.

Well, not just striking out, it's that they didn't go all in because they've been waiting for someone like this.

And he got passed by other teams in his conference that were more aggressive.

You got it as striking out and the place that I would just slow you a little bit on because they did make two finals appearances, and one of the strikeouts was Bradley Beal, and one of the strikeouts was Dame Lillard, and those would have been disasters. In retrospect, disasters. Both of them, if you You get the Beale contract, because when people are excited about the Beale contract, you say striking out, and you're not wrong. One of the big ones is obviously Kevin Durant. The Rockets are formidable, at least in part because they were formidable last year. Now they've added the guy that you would want to have. But strike out, I would say, is a little strong when you've had a couple of finals appearances in five years. You got Jimmy Butler when you didn't have the ability to get much of anything. You got out from Hassan Whiteside and Deion Waiters and ended up with Jimmy Butler when you didn't have anything to offer. But since then, we've been saying, the player has to be better than Jimmy Butler. Now, what we've seen since is the consensus of, Bam's a number two. He's forever a number two.

Useful, not good enough, not consistent enough, not aggressive enough, not big enough, whatever it is. Bam's not a number one. You went as far as you could with Jimmy Butler. Now, the idea is, can you put someone next to Bam better than Jimmy Butler because you failed to get anyone for Jimmy Butler. But here's what Windhorst says on Get Up This Morning. I've been at 51: 49 against a trade, against Giannis being traded, not against it personally, but against thinking there will be a trade. I'm now at 60: 40. Minnesota is still out there, but I'll be honest with you, I don't think Minnesota offers was as good as Golden State's. If Golden State's offer wasn't good enough, I don't think Minnesota's is realistic. That leaves Miami. Miami is making a player and semi-draft pick offer. It's a decent offer, but unless there's a secret thing going on, I'm not feeling Yannis moving right now. Well, of course, there might be a secret thing going on because the Miami Heat do not leak any of this stuff, and none of this information ever comes from the Miami Heat.

Just telling you, Dan, nothing happens. 3: 01 PM.

Peace out.

Okay, but we're going to be here doing a live stream and preparing for a live stream. I believe that there are a lot of fart noises around the trade deadline and that most years we get very excited. Then because of our expectations, we end up getting some form of disappointed, especially here in Miami over the last five years.

I think if you're the audience, you're rooting for an uneventful NBA Trade Deadline for the Miami Heat because they're going to be fireworks either way.

You want Zaz mad at 3: 00 PM because we didn't get him.

They will get skewered, rightfully so, if another opportunity to land a Superstar, and I'm even including Ja Morant in this discussion, even though he's having a bad season.

You'd be okay with Morant as a compilation? Yes, but why?

Hold on, Mike, why? Give me hope. Because this is a franchise, as I outlined previously, that has always been built around a superstar. And that is the only way this franchise gets anywhere, really, is putting it on one superstar's back and building around him. We don't have that superstar right now. We haven't had one for a while ever since Jimmy broke down. We need to get back to relevance. This is a global brand that is always centered around a superstar. The Miami Heat can't get back into the Eastern conference today. They can get back into the basketball conversation. This is the most irrelevant this franchise has been in a long time, and they made two finals in this decade.

Mike, what if I told you that the instant gratification of Ja Morant would cost you the summertime of getting Giannis?

I don't think it does because there's just more assets that build up. That's why the argument for Giannis staying in Minnesota, and I can't believe he's let it get to this point. Giannis needs to put out a statement like yesterday to force his to force Milwaukee's hand because it's ridiculous. But they're just sitting pretty thinking that they'll get better offers in June.

No, but you don't know what Giannis is telling Milwaukee behind the scenes. Giannis clearly does not want to come out and be the bad guy and say things in public. You don't know what he's saying behind the the seas.

Yeah, but that's different than public pressure.

Yeah, but don't you also get the impression, whether or not he gets moved right now or in the summer, Milwaukee is going to move on from him because it really is in Milwaukee's best interest to move on from him.

What are they going to do? They're going to tell a 31-year-old superstar, You can't play for the of the season because- That's why they need to do it now. They have an opportunity at a lottery pick right now.

That's why they need to do it now. You can't have it both ways where you want to tank the rest of the season because want your pick to be a high pick in a very loaded draft, but then also not trade Yannis, and he's going to want to play, but then you're going to tell him, We don't want you to play. Well, then trade him.

This is wrong what you guys are doing to me on the screen. This is unfair. What's wrong about it? It's unjust. It's disinformation.

You like Yernovsky.

In the information age.

I will say the conversation has constantly been, okay, there are all these teams that will have more picks that are unlocked to be able to offer, or there will be more teams with space that they can offer in the offseason. But If Yannis is on the final year of a deal and can also have more influence over the box of where he goes, what's saying you are going to land a better offer this offseason from anybody? Because what leverage do you really have? Right now, you can add Yannis to a franchise that at the very least gets him through the rest of this season and next year, or one that can extend him soon, as opposed to having to worry about doing it next year.

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Don Levatard.

Teamates can't shoot from three. Now they're going to see a different Jimmy. Now he's just, just playing. Nickelback in the locker room and- Stugatz. They'll play D and show threes as they chase the nets for the sixth seed. These five words in his head, Scream, are we winning games yet?

This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugats.

When Mike Ryan spells Ja, and I hear it as Ja, and he's feeling both things. He's feeling Ja with Pat Reilly, Ja with the heat in Spanish, Ja, the Latin temper of ja, ja, ja, just get me ja. And when I see ja in the discount bin, so much so that they're talking about Sacramento. Sacramento being like, I can't believe Anthony Davis, one of the top 75 players ever ends up getting traded the way that he does yesterday. And so Dallas really botches that and gets next to nothing for Luka, the superstar that Mike is demanding having, the superstar that only got to a finals the way that Jimmy Butler did twice in Miami, only got there once with Luka. Ad gets traded yesterday to another way station like Sacramento, Wizards. The Wizards in Sacramento only exist to be a place that just gathers names because you've got to meet a low maximum ceiling in the NBA of people you're paying, even if you're intent on being terrible.

I think the Wizards could be frisky. Maybe not this year, but they have young pieces That's a playoff team, and it feels like they've been rebuilding- What? No, no, no. Next season. Next season. You don't think so? No. You don't think so with their young pieces and adding Anthony Davis? I know these guys need to play.

He's got to play. He's got to play.

But if Anthony Davis and Trey Young are on the court around that young core, they're in the playoff conversation without.

No. I say- What? Atlanta was in the playoff. Lots of doubt. Mike, lots of doubt. There are a couple of teams. Sacramento as an example. If people want to say that Sacramento has got anything whatsoever. I think Sacramento has got three road wins this year. Washington is truly terrible, and you can sing about their young players if you want. But Anthony Davis, in this condition, is a piece that has so little value that it moves for next to nothing and ends up on the Wizards' roster because they couldn't get much of anything. Mike, what are you shaking your head about?

I don't think it wasn't nothing. There were some decent pieces in there. Yeah, there were some bad contracts to make the salary match up. But I don't know. Okay, we'll revisit next year when they're battling with the Miami Heat for the play and if the Miami Heat strike out again. They got good young pieces.

I love this take from Mike. I think it's actually really sharp because... And I know he doesn't watch basketball like that, and he's starting to come around now, now that it's closer to the playoffs.

I know Keesha and George pretty well.

On top of that, Trey Young, Anthony Davis, players with question marks, but obviously have upside. But what Will Dawkins is doing, he just spent 15 years over in Oklahoma City, bringing a lot of what they're doing over to Washington. The foundation is set Washington to be a good franchise with a lot of little moves that they've made. So I really actually like this take.

The reason that I don't like the take is because I've been watching Washington the entirety of my life, and it's always been a nowhere franchise, and it takes a lot, even if you get the guy who was next to the guy, to make it not a nowhere franchise. And it's especially hard when Anthony Davis is what you're counting on in any circumstance to give you playing time.

In the last calendar year, Anthony Davis has played 29 games. Cool.

We'll table this discussion. It's actually not cool.

But a year from now, I'm going to go off on you guys. Okay, that's fine.

Set it on the Google calendar.

Yeah, put it on the record. I will get my vengeance. Also, put it on the record that at 3: 00 PM today, the heat will trade for George Hill, and I will leave here mad at you guys because you put me in another situation where you start hyperventilating about all the things that are going to happen at the trade deadline. I think we're ready to get it done.

This is a huge day in franchise history. If nothing happens, then even more credence to... No, this is actually part of his legacy because towards the end, he wasn't able to recapture that magic. Now, I'm not going to pooh-pooh Ja Morant. If they do something aggressive and get Giannis, that's the pie in the sky scenario, right? But I don't think it's a bad consolation prize to get Ja Morant. I really don't. I'm a huge Ja Morant fan. I still believe in him. I know he hasn't been good. I know it's a weird culture fit. But I think if not here, where? I believe in that guy's talent. I think his ceiling is really high for this franchise.

It's a great consolation prize because we're expecting they would be able to get him for nothing, right? That's why it's a good consolation prize, right? You can't spend on him.

You can't send good players over to get Ja Morant.

What you would be sending to get Ja if that deal happens is Terry Rozier and Simone Fantecchio. The question becomes, is there any draft compensation? Would the heat have to attach a pick or maybe a couple of second-round pics? That really I imagine, is the sticking point right now.

I'll give you Doliak.

I was so mad the other day because they wasted the Fantecchio game. He had seven threes or something in a game, and they lost the game anyway because they just threw it away. Azaz just said something here. I think it happens. I'm beginning to feel like Zaz's words don't mean anything because, Mike, the other day he texted us, Minnesota made a tiny trade, and he said, It's over. Minnesota is getting. I'm very reactive. Well, but this is the I don't. You're also very hopeful, and you got as much homer in you as anyone who's ever been around here. You are a fan at your core. You get emotional. You swing wildly on these things. At 301, You have to understand, the reason we're doing this Trade Deadline show is only so you can see our reaction either way. At three o'clock, are they crushed because another season got away? Because this is the thing that's happening, right? I find this part fascinating. Trey Young, Anthony Davis, Giannis, pieces that have body issues in a league that has more body issues than it's ever had. You're counting on injured things. We just talked about Damian Lillard swung and missed.

Everybody got mad. Now you're happy they swung and missed. Bradley Beal, some people wanted him, some didn't. But injuries all over this league are a problem. You can't count on Anthony Davis. I wouldn't blame anybody if they said you can't count on Giannis either, because the way the sport is happening, it's testing tendons and tissues in a way that's not normal, the way that they're just spreading the court and making these guys go out for miles, and the way he specifically plays is really physical. I know it feels like you're immediately saying, If I add Giannis to Bam, I can win the East. But it ignores a couple of things. One thing it ignores is Detroit's really good. Not a little bit good. They're really good. They did the hardship thing last year. They barely lost the Knicks. They will not lose to the Knicks again. Detroit is really good. The other thing that's happening, and this is where heat fans deserve to be most frustrated. The other thing that happened is the Celtics are really good, and they're really good without Tatum. They just went into Houston and dragged Houston because the Celtics are playing unbelievably well.

At the trade deadline before making the seismic move, they did all the money stuff you need to do to fix the salary cap stuff. It hurt. They didn't want to get rid of Simmons, Anthony Simmons, excuse me. They didn't want- They got a good player in return.

They did. They got a good offensive player. They traded one heat killer for another.

They got a good offensive player. They got a bad defensive player, but they improved. The Celtics have gotten better.

Yes, everybody's gotten better on their watch. I know the Lillard thing, maybe... I have a take on the Lillard thing. There was a lot of stuff going on in Damian Lillard's personal life, and he went to a city he didn't really want to go to, and he showed up out of shape because of everything that was going on. I do think it might have worked out different down here, but let's play the result out there. The fact remains that whether they've gotten lucky by swinging and missing, or they've really missed out and other teams have improved. And we're not just talking about the big superstar trades. We're talking about keeping our powder dry and not chasing Pascal Siakam, who would make a difference? O'giananobi, who would make a difference? Because we kept doing what we always done under Pat Reilly, which is let's go whale hunting. The time is now. Giannis is not a player that's going to be good at 36, 37, and he needs to realize that, too. As he's looking down a summer vacation in Greece. You're 31 years old without a jumper, and what you bring to the table is unbelievable physical gifts.

You need to capitalize on that window right, right now.

When he talks about the right now of this, okay? Because super interesting to me what's going on at Golden State, because they need to get Steph the piece right now, even though I think it's fairly obvious to everybody. Everyone in the league is miles behind OKC. Even if OKC struggles, San Antonio may feel differently, but everyone else in the league feels miles behind OKC, Detroit included. And so you find yourself in a position where you're hopeful because all you've got to do is get past the east. But the last two times Jimmy Butler took them back past the East, they run into the buzz saw in the finals, and Mike is still yelling and screaming because two finals appearances in five years isn't enough. Even if you're max out on overachievement on Jimmy Butler can get you to Jokich, and he can get you to LeBron, but he's not as good as Jokich, and he's not as good as LeBron, or he's not as good as Anthony Davis and LeBron, though they were close to being as good.

Jimmy was probably better than LeBron in those finals. The first one, Bam got hurt, missed a couple of games in that series. Goran got hurt. That wasn't Miami's best shot, and they still took him to six.

Don Levatard. All these high-paid analysts I don't want to mention names. Tnt, ESPM.

Oh, yeah.

They're not going to make it. Even if they win, if they lose in Miami, I need to calm you down.

I need to calm you down. That's right.

If they lose in Miami. They don't got a chance in Boston. Oh, they are going to have their ass in Boston. Stugats. They were wrong. Are they going to lose their job? No. Are they going to get a cutting plate? No. What are they going to do? Keep predicting. What is the obvious? They're going to say, Oh, the Nuggets are going to win. Oh, Denver, the altitude. And you know what? They are not going to win at all. This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugats.

The thing, though, that I find myself wondering about as you guys watch all of this play out is it presumes an awful lot to presume that Yannis will be healthy and give you the hope that you can then get past Detroit. But the best hope, the best hope that the Miami Heat have is that Pat Reilly, I'm not killing him, but toward the end of his life and the end of his career, what has to be the close to the end of a man who still doesn't talk to Michael Jordan and Larry Bird when he's in a room with them because of what the scars of competing did to him. He doesn't want to leave the game, but he's got a very small window. When you talk about Giannis and the injuries, Yannis, too, can't give away another half-season. He doesn't want to sit there healthy for the rest of this season, playing with Kyle Kuzma and Miles Turner and a bunch of Milwaukee players who are miles away from Drew holiday and what Chris Middleton and Brook Lopez did for him.

Get off your ass and send a tweet right now. The window is shrinking on this guy? Why is there no urgency?

Because he doesn't want to make the public mess, Mike.

What? You don't want the public mess more than another title?

What are we doing? You're 31. I'm telling you that he does not want... This he's made clear. Has he not made this clear? He does not want another title more than he wants a good relationship with Milwaukee. He's made it clear. How much more clear do you want him to make it? He's made- Less clear. He's made it obvious that he'd prefer to try and keep the relationship with Milwaukee, then do what he has to do to try and get out so he can get closer to a championship the second half of this season.

Do you know who gets what he wants? James Harden. James Harden gets what he wants. He's had seven trades in his life. Why? Because he says, Hey, I want to move. Hey, I want to do this. Hey, I want to do that. And he gets whatever he wants.

But you guys killed him the last couple of days, and everybody killed him. Because he's not my guy.

And he's done it seven times. We give you one or two.

Yeah, we got one. Kevin Durant also gets his way, right? And he does it differently.

Yeah, but he's ruined the way the optics of his career should look because he's gotten what he, quote unquote, wants. This is the thing. I mean, man, my brother talked about this a lot, the Genie's Curse. May you get everything in life you wish for. Kevin Durant has gotten the things that he wants, but he doesn't act like it because it hasn't felt like he's getting the things that he wants because it's never met with applause. Whatever Kevin Durant has been doing the last... I thought Witte had a great take four teams ago when he's like, The choice is Kevin Durant has made are the worst possible ones he could have made for whatever the optics of his career would have been. If we run it back and allow him to make all the choices again, he would have been regarded forever with applause in a way he's not. You cannot tell me, Mike, that it does not sting human beings, no matter how immortal you think they are, especially the ones that are online as much as these guys are, that it doesn't sting these human beings who got into the life with the idea of, Well, I'm going to be in stadiums and everyone's going to cheer me, and the only people are booing are because they hate me because I'm too good, right?

To do things that they think are going to merit applause, and then they're villains or they're bad, and then Kevin Durant is getting mad at the media for misrepresenting him or they're human beings inside of this. The reason Shaq's mad at me and wants to kill me is because I simply said, he's awfully sensitive under the circumstances, given that he's Shaq. That's why he's mad at me. He doesn't have another reason. He's reacted to me saying he's too sensitive by being too sensitive and holding a grudge for years where he wants to kill me. And he's Shaq. And she's Shaq. You think Kevin Durant and Yannis and James Harden might not be a little weaker? Like, wherever it is, the confidence resides here where you expect all the applause.

Actually, no. I don't think they're weaker. I think Kevin Durant is actually pretty strong mentally. Yeah, there are things that leak out on social media, but I never question his care for the game.

No, but I just mean weaker when it comes to applause, the need for validation. We all need it, and I think people think superstars don't need it. And what I'm telling you is they're the most popular guys in high school, but they need it, too. When you take it away, when you take away something as simple as popularity and make them slightly unpopular. How did LeBron deal with that at the beginning when he didn't think that's how that was going to go for him here? He He's not used to it over time. Durant has gotten used to it over time. Yannis has never experienced any of that.

There are times that it works out. The end of Rasheed Wallace's tenure in Portland was bad. He ends up getting moved to Atlanta and then moved to Detroit, and now he's remembered forevermore as a Piston champion.

Rasheed Wallace is the example you're giving me on caring about what people think?

I'm saying about the superstars that make it ugly near the deadline. Goren Dragic got hurt in an NBA Finals. Even he made it ugly to get to Miami. It's a footnote on his In fact, we're probably the only ones that even remember it. There are times that these big bets for just a little minor headache where everyone's mad at you for maybe a week or so, it pays off.

Yeah, I mean, Yannis is also in a good spot with the Milwaukee fan base. I think at this point, if he said, I'd rather do this now than the summer, please send me to Minnesota or Miami. Their fan base, you can see the reaction online. They're not mad about this at this point. They understand there's nothing built around him. They're ready to reset. He's been nothing but wonderful to the city.

And if this is a legacy play, when's the next time Yannis is going to be in Milwaukee once he's retired? He's never going to go back. They're going to put a statue outside for two seconds. Okay, great. I'll see you guys later. He doesn't even live there now.

I know you're saying that Yannis should make more of a mess to really force Milwaukee's hand. You don't see Golden State bowing out last night as more evidence that this thing is going to happen. It's going to happen. And Golden State has essentially been told, We're not taking your offer. You can move on here. Milwaukee is going to do this today.

Can't you interpret it as if it's not going to happen this deadline?

But then why aren't the other teams also bowing out, like Miami, like Minnesota? For me, that last night meant that Golden State was told- You're saying that is Kominga being traded?

Yes.

Very similar to New York, how, remember, James Dolan a few days ago came out. It's like, I like our team. We're a championship team. We're not going to make any moves. No, New York was told, Yeah, we're not taking your offer. And last night, Golden State was also told, We're not taking your offer. And that's why Kominga was sent to Atlanta for a Porzingis with... I mean, Porzingis- Can we have a conversation about Porzingis? We played seven games this year. My God, Golden State. What's up with him? I mean, you sit Kominga for the entire season, and for what? That's what you get. You get Porzingis and his mystery illness. I hope he's okay, but still.

Are you pronouncing that differently? And that sounded totally insincere. I hope he's okay. Can you please... I say Porzingis. I don't say it Porzingis.

I say it the right way.

Okay. What do you know? I actually believe that he's saying it correctly, and I'm saying it wrong. Put it on the poll, please, Juju. Porzingis or Porzingis. Tony, when we say mystery illness and we skip past it, can you please just look, read for me. Just please look up for me the details of the mystery illness when Zaslow says quite insincerely, I care so much about him being well, but he doesn't actually care. Because I remember when this last made an appearance for me was Lual Dang. He had some trouble with... He was leaking spinal fluid. It seemed really horrible. He was still trying to play, and people were like, I hope he's okay. I think they weren't really examining what might be happening there. I don't actually know.

It's clear you don't actually know what the internet says about it. You do not want to send Tony on an internet wild goosh chase about what- You're going to say what? No, don't do it. I know what the internet's going to say. There's internet theories about it, and we'll leave it at that. You're very clearly not familiar with that.

I do not know what any of the internet theories are. I just am saying whenever it is I hear the phrase mystery illness spoken by someone who doesn't have a mystery illness, they're generally underestimating whatever it is is happening over where the mystery illness is. And so while you can rip Porziengas, the Golden State Warriors did send Kaminga to Atlanta. And it does appear that our Trade Deadline show is just going to be Well, is it going to be Miami for Giannis, or is it just going to be fart noise? Giannis stays in Milwaukee for the second half of the season where they have 18 wins, and he's not going to play a relevant game the rest of this season. Not one relevant game will Giannis play for him, his career, his legacy the rest of the season. He will be running around with no discernible purpose for the next half of a season because they've got no chance to do anything other than lose. So So he'd be legitimately wasting his time.

If Milwaukee hasn't made a decision, why would Golden State just bow out last night? They bowed out. There's a reason why they bowed out.

Yeah, there has to be.

I just- Well, but wait a minute. I'm assuming what it is. He says, Why did they bow out last night because they traded Kominga? And he's not allowing for the idea that Milwaukee is like, We don't want Kominga. Whatever your offer is, it's not with Kominga. We don't want Kominga.

But that ties to what he's saying. If they don't want Kominga, there's no deal.

Yeah, exactly. But they still have the draft picks, and there are three-way trades that you can make. All these teams are looking for another partner. Anyone who's really interested in making a move today is looking for other partners.

Then everyone said, They don't want Kominga.

No, but exactly.

Dunlevy told you that. Dunlevy told you nobody wants Kaminka.

He ended up being right. But you're exactly right what you're saying. So if that's the case, because yes, there are other moves to be made. I'm going to bring in this team. I'm going to get this pick, this extra pick. Why would Golden State, knowing that, what you're saying is right, why would Golden State bow out?

Again, you're making it bowed out when I don't know who wants Draymon. I don't know what Draymon brings you back. I don't know what Milwaukee has told Golden State that they want. I don't know. I know Golden State, it's seen as Kaminga is the best offer, but I would also assume that we never actually know what all the facts are because we're very often surprised by what happens with these three and four and five and six team trades.

Golden State just didn't have the Trump card that anybody wanted, which was a blue-chip prospect. Kaminga is not seen as that across the league. So when you have, Hey, we've got Kaminga, and we've got Buddy Hield, and we've got Draymon Green, who's 37 years old. What do you think, Milwaukee? And be like, No, you can give us 8,000 pics. It doesn't matter because what we want, you do not have.

Buddy Hield is owed $10 million each of the next two years by moving him and Kaminga and bringing back Porzingas, who's expiring as a contract. It gives them a little more flexibility in the offseason with then Draymond as an expiring contract next year, I believe. So What that does is it says, Okay, we're not going to get Giannis now. Milwaukee has told us we cannot get Giannis right now. We would rather have either Miami's offer, which they're going to try to increase, or see what Minnesota can do, but you're not going to be able to do this Golden State. Maybe if we get to the offseason, we can revisit it, which is why you get a player in Porzingas who has no further money going forward instead of maybe Anthony Davis. That's why you go for Porzingas in particular.

Roy, they did it to me again. We have run out of time. It's been all trade deadline. I cannot talk about the two-time defending champions winning last night in a win that Mike Ryan is claiming is a loss. It is.

You're wrong. No, you got to win that in regulation. You got two points is the most important thing. But you gave up a point to Boston. All right, there's still 30 games left. Two points is what they needed. They got two points.

They net it one.

Boston is not the only team they're chasing.

Yeah, they're chasing Buffalo as well.

Yeah. So you get two points.

They're chasing everybody.

All right, get two points.

We don't have time to talk about it. The two-time defending champions because I'm playing Whac-amole with these guys and the heat in about, I don't know, six hours. I'm going to trade for George Hill.

I think it's pronounced Guacamole.