Transcript of Local Hour: The Monster Miami Sports Night
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Mike, you know I have one rule to live by, right?
Don't place parlays on multiple long shots. Don't say a game is one when it hasn't hit triple zero.
Always drink your Jägermeister ice cold. That's the rule. Everything else is merely a suggestion.
Everything else?
Everything else.
Wearing clean underwear every day?
Well, that's just a personal decision.
Brushing your teeth?
Obviously smart, but not a rule.
Never PP on an electric fence.
Okay, maybe there are two rules. Okay, maybe there are two rules. But the one that is 100% that I insist on completely, Jägermeister must be drunk ice cold. Or don't drink it at all.
Damn, that's cold.
Exactly. You're finally starting to get it.
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Greg Zaslow is maintaining that tonight is a monster Miami sports night. Are you in agreement with a monster Miami sports night tonight?
No, I don't think you're a monster if you're playing a regular season game and you're both around 500. I don't know.
Well, he's not saying it's just football. He's saying it's the heat, the Panthers, and the dolphins all playing at the same time on a week night. That's not normal.
Yeah, it's annoying. What if you want to watch all three games?
You still can in the modern age with all the technologies that people have.
Really? They're on three different channels.
Yeah, but you're flipping back and forth.
You got a couple of screens.
I think sports fans know how to watch three games at the same time.
Yeah, but they don't want to. You want to concentrate on a game.
Well, they're staggered. One of them is at 7: 00, the other one is at 7: 30, and the other one is at 8: 15.
It's fitting that the only one that really qualifies as a big game is the last one of the three.
Okay, well, that's great. That's the main event. Yeah.
Okay.
I don't think any of them are that big. Why would the last of the three qualify as a major event?
I mean, the dolphins are fighting for their playoff life. I almost sounded like Zazlo there for a minute.
It was fake enthusiasm. It really was. You started laughing right after it. You're laughing at yourself. I heard that squink come out of you. It was fake. It sounds like a Christmas toy. Correct. Yes. So the dolphins are fighting for their playoff light. You can't even muster faux enthusiasm for that.
Their playoff life.
They are. That's like a mix of me and Eric Reid, I think you did there.
Kaboom. That's my Eric Reid impression. Kaboom.
Is that right? Yeah. Usually with impressions, you can just let them stand on their own. You don't have to explain right afterward what they are.
Tonight is not a monster night in South Florida sports. It's the seventh biggest night in South Florida sports history this year.
That's your Eric Reid.
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On this Monster Miami Sports Night, we begin with Highly. Champions again. Highly is back, Jack. Mike Ryan went all over South Florida celebrating with the trophy this weekend. I felt like co-owner Chris Cody was pushed out of the way so that Mike Ryan could party with the trophy, and Chris Cody couldn't get anywhere near the trophy. Let's play the winning point. Hundreds of people-Shit stirring again. Hundreds of people at Highly to celebrate this historic championship as the Lebitard show with Stugats continues to try to keep Highly alive, as we have for 20 years. Here's the winning point for your champion, cyclones.
Nicholas with the catch at 13, low and hard. Maneu is there again. Backhand from the 10. On the wall. Clean miss is both ways. Here's Inaki winding up. Hello. What a scoop by Etchaberry. Placement is caught by Inaki. Inaki, that lands in and scores for the win and the championship going to- Can you hear that? Inaki and Maneu of the cyclones and the cyclone squad.
That would be a for a call in that, no? For a championship point.
Relax. We didn't make it very dramatic.
That was a hugely memorable last point, dramatic with a lot of flourishing. Then at the end, Mike and Chris give traditional owners interviews. That's right.
Mike, Chris, this team, and it started back in the draft, back a few months ago. How confident leaving that draft room were you in this version of the team?
The vibes were really strong leaving that draft. I'm just so glad we stuck with Maneu this time. The start, the end, I'm so happy. Maneu is the man. This is the Maneu's Championship right here.
Mike, we'll ask you, too, how does it feel, second Championship in cyclones team history? It felt like a really long time to be able to go pull It's really cool. Closing things out here in Magic City. It's a special feeling, special team. Like Chris said, to be able to stick with our captain, Manu is such a special player, best backquarter in the world. Bueno coming back from injury, being super steady when the whole world doubted him. I'm so happy for him. He's a veteran. He's never been to a final before. For him to win it, he was a crucial, crucial draft pick. Are you looking at the GM of the Year? You might be looking at the GM of the Year and the special weapon, Unda. The Unda take a Let's go, club. All right, we'll let them celebrate and enjoy their moment, folks.
What a season.
Yeah.
I can't tell you how much I love that mascot for all the wrong reasons. I wanted him to come in here this week and stay gained from a weekend of debauchery with smoking a cigarette. I saw that during that interview, Mike said, You might be looking at the GM of the Year, whereupon Chris Cody pops up in your screen and then runs off of the screen. As soon as Mike says, We're looking at the GM of the Year, and I don't know whether he was talking about, is Mike the GM of the Year or is Chris the GM of the Year?
Oh, just stop it. Why are you trying to drive a wedge?
You can't do it. It's not going to be. It's not possible.
Is it in your DNA to just be happy for people?
You open four seconds into the show. You can't spell Dan without the D, the N, and the A. Come on, dog.
I mean, to Dan's point, who is the GM of the Year?
The cyclones.
We'll share it. You guys are getting bogged down on the wrong thing. You said- Guys, we're- It's looking at the GM of the Year. Who is it? We are Season 8 battle core champions. Let's go. Period. That's a headline here. Where was a Greg Cody column? Yeah. Where was it? Where was it?
Next to the back of my day.
Are you serious? Yeah.
You wrote an article about Chris becoming owner. You'd think that we'd get a full circle.
There seems to be a conflict of interest on the reporting that Greg Cody does on this show versus real journalism. What makes you say that? You wrote an article about your son being the owner of the cyclones.
I barely remember.
How emotional was it? You were there. When you say you barely remember, we remember. Before this moment, the most memorable moment at Highly at that fronton was you coughing so much during the pandemic that you fell down on the floor. You passed out and you fell down on the floor.
I fainted is what happened. I did not faint the other night because the adrenaline was coursing through my veins. It was an exciting night. Hundreds of fans were there, and the action was great. It This is a really interesting sport. Highly has died all over the country, but we're keeping it aligned in South Florida. All over the world.
I watched the whole thing, Dan. It was on ESPN Plus. I watched the whole... The match was long, I'm going to be honest. It was my entire shift on ESPN. I'm on the radio, and I had on my iPad. I watched the entire match. Then you could see Chris. At one point, they showed Chris in the backstage area.
They did. At one point, the camera came up to him. They're like, We're going to show you. I just had to do the thing of like...
He was like, watching, really nervous mid-match. And then he gave like... And then he did like one of these. I think you were doing like a Clones deal. Yeah.
Yeah, it's this motion. It's the double C.
That's That's not what that looks like. Hey, relax.
Family show.
It's not what that looks like. That doesn't look like it. Yeah, throw up your double C. What are the Cs? What is the C stand?
Oh, I see what I see.
Throw up your double C. Let's go. Greg, let's see it.
The C stands for crank.
Yeah, very good.
I watched the whole thing. I'll be honest, I didn't know what was going on, but I watched the whole thing.
What was going on is that they're champions again, the cyclones are champions again, and we continue to keep Highly alive in South Florida and beyond. I believe that we are celebrating this more this weekend than Inter Miami's Championship because Messi went to India, didn't want to parade for the 37th best of his 43 titles. There was no Inter Miami parade, but there is a celebration of another South Florida Championship. Mike, where did you end up with the trophy all weekend? The trophy was at space. The trophy was at the University of Miami women's basketball game.
It was at the Men's Noobs game.
How did you get to bring it in?
I know, folks. Mike Ryan.
The Golden Cane.
Yeah, you clear it.
Look at that. I can't wait for my day with the trophy.
Yeah, I took a photo with Sebastian. You get a day with the trophy? There were smatters everywhere.
Clones, go, Clones. I'm thinking elbow room, Flanigan's.
Highly, Highly, champion, right there. That's a cup. You would hear whispers. Kyle Seeloff touched it.
Everyone showed up at Roy. Look at Jason Tachet. Dwork was there. Jordan McPherson was there.
All the big names.
I think Mike Ryan bullied Jordan McFuirston, by the way, into going that night because he came out and opened the thing and said, Hey, Jordan McFuirston, what the F about the AP vote? And then he's like, What do you want me to do, Mike? He's like, Come to the highlight game. He's like, Okay, I'll be there. Then on the side, he showed up.
Greg, what were the highlights for you?
The highlights?
Were you there the whole time? Were you there the whole match?
Yeah, of course I was. The Miller lights were the highlight for him.
Of course I was. And by the way, to your point, it's a long game. It's long. You got to tighten it a little bit. What is it? A best of five?
I have never heard after winning a championship, someone who actually cares about their team complaining that it was a long game that they had to watch. It's because you two don't care. No, I care. No, you're noticing the length of the championship win because you're looking at your wristwatch wanting to get out of there. You don't actually care. Look at this. What a moment. You can stop faking that you care by complaining about how long the match is.
Look at that guy.
That's a man caring right Hoisting the trophy.
Damn right. Earlier this year, he gave you crap for banging a drum at a Panthers game.
We can see why there was no highlight article after this.
Put it on the poll, please.
I'm too close to the sport.
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The Dolphins play against the Steelers tonight. And what we saw from the Chiefs yesterday is the seismic story in the sport, because not only is the Chiefs thing done, that game finishes with Mahomes on the turf, making you wonder, Oh, wait a minute. How much longer is Andy Reid going to want to do this? How much longer are their coaches going to want to do this? If it's Mahomes to the middle of next season, and he's already getting hit more, he got hit more the last two years than he had in the previous six combined because of what his offensive line is. Only Herbert has been hit more this year than Mahomes, and at the very end for a worthless cause. And that Chief's team is better than its record. That rare is the non-playoff qualifier that has this point differential. In fact, comparatively, Denver is such a fraud. Comparatively, on an 11-game winning streak where all your games are an average of seven-point victories. The Chiefs have a great point differential, lost a bunch of close games, and are going to miss the playoffs, even though they're not actually worse than the Dolphins.
Wait a minute. Listen, the Chiefs were known before this season for winning all those close games. That's been the big difference this year.
It's not an ability, Greg. The winning of close games is not an ability.
Of course it is. No, it's not. It is when you're playing bad teams. We looked at it, Their one-score victories that made everybody concerned, Hey, how sustainable is this? Came against bad teams. And this year, their one-score defeats came against good teams. They dipped, they weren't as good. Kelsey, obviously looks a little different. Mahomes. I have always wondered, how is that body going to age? He's torn his ACL in year nine. Should be noted, so did Tom braided. Both missed the playoffs, and then Tom braided went on a several decades run.
Please. Enough with the comparison. Like, as if Mahomes is going to replicate Tom Brady's career. Braided had practically three Hall of Fame careers. The first run, then he got hurt, then the second run, and then the Tampa run.
But he's walking in his footsteps, as he's got the three Super Bowl. He's got the exact same injuries going to miss the year. They're going to be bad. They're going to get Jeremiah Smith.
He has seven Super Bowl We act like it's so easy to win seven Super Bowl.
Okay, but now this is the next act of Patrick Mahomes' career. Now it's actual another three Super Bowl.
Does Mahomes win another Super Bowl? Your best guess. Yes. No.
I don't think so either. They're done. The Chief's dynasty died yesterday. The whole dynasty did. Andy Reid is on fumes. He's looking for an exit strategy. Kelsey's definitely retiring. Kelsey's done. Mahomes, best days are done. The offensive line stinks.
This is what I didn't have, though, right? This is the part I did not have. After nine straight division titles, seven straight AFC Championship Games, and three straight Super Bowl, I did not have anything happening yesterday that would make me question next season this quickly. And the thing that happened is the thing that makes you wonder, Oh, wait, did it all just come apart? Because they're trying to beat the chargers and they can't do anything offensively and they lose at home 16 to 13 to the chargers, and at the end of the game, he's getting hurt. None of you guys had that either. Even if they were eliminated, we would have thought of that as anticlimax, but we wouldn't have thought, Oh, wait a minute. What does this mean until the middle of next year? Oh, wait, their defensive coordinator and their coach are super old. Do they even want a part of whatever is the problem with how many people they're paying guaranteed money when they can't get out from under what this season was? What I'm telling you, though, is that team was not as bad as its record. You seem to object to what I'm saying that winning one-score games isn't an ability.
Minnesota had it last year, and then they went to the playoffs and they didn't have it anymore.
But my point is, and it's quantifiable, Kansas City, before this year, has been noted for winning a lot of one-score games.
Last year, they were great at one-score games, but this year wasn't? What happened to the ability? If it's an ability, what happened to it?
Okay, so you're saying last year was not an ability. No. They got lucky last year. No, they did. Okay.
They did. They've got a great quarterback. Look, what tilts the odds in your favor on one-score games is, do you have a great quarterback? So yeah, if you've got a great quarterback, you're more likely to win one-score games. But this year, Mahomes is a great quarterback and wasn't able to win them because it's not an ability.
Okay, I think winning teams often get denigrated for reasons like this. We're saying that New England's 10-game winning streak was because they had a soft schedule. We're saying Denver is winning a lot of close games. Denver just beat Green Bay, which was a real case.
Denver's average margin of victory during this winning streak, during the 11 wins, is seven points. It's the smallest one ever for this winning, ever. They're not dominating people. They're just beating them. You tell me whether you'd be surprised if Bo Nicks loses a playoff game to Herbert by one score.
I wouldn't be surprised by much this season. This has been a crazy NFL season all the way around.
To that point, though, yeah, they've been beating teams just barely. But then you look at a team like Green Bay, who you look and say, okay, they might be the best team in the league, and then they dominate that team. And you're like, okay, wait. This team might for real with the defense. And Bo Nicks could just do enough. He has another four-touchdown performance, and they can go on a run. They can make it to the Super Bowl easily.
A lot of teams in the AFC could make it to the Super Bowl easily because you've got all of the usual participants in the AFC out. Look at how many quarterbacks have appeared in the AFC Championship game over the last 22 years. It's like five or six in terms of... It's always the same guys in the game, and now they're all eliminated. So of course, you're looking at what Josh Allen... The story of the day yesterday, there was a ton of football news yesterday, a ton. The football story of the day yesterday was what Buffalo did to New England as New England is trying to wrestle the top of the division from them. All I'm listening to during the game, Drake Mays blocking down the field. Everything's about, he's the MVP, he's the MVP, he's the MVP. No, he's not. No, he's not. The MVP played in the other huddle. The MVP is the guy who scores four breakdown a game, 10 times more than anyone else since 2020. It's the guy who came back from 21 down. Or what was it? Yeah, it was 21 down. The Patriots had the longest streak in league history of if they're up 17 at home, it was 120 games.
They never lose the game, and they lost it yesterday.
As someone that just reps the shield, though, I came away bummed overall because of what happened in Mahomes.
You rep the shield?
I rep the shield, and I wanted to see Josh see if he could go through that quarterback. And now Josh Allen doesn't look like he has to go through the quarterback said Dan highlighted Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes.
Still not going to get to the Super Bowl.
You don't think Josh- No. You've been firing off the definitive takes. That window is closed. You've been saying the Chiefs are done, and Josh Allen's not making the Super Bowl. I think Josh Allen's eye- Rocking up some Ws over here. And the odds reflect this if you check DraftKings' sportsbook. Odds improved with what happened over the football weekend.
Buffalo's going to go on road, win three games in the playoffs.
Well, they may not have to. They're still alive in that division. Yeah.
I mean, the series is tied 1-1, so it'll come down division record. Right now, both of us are getting back in the division and a game back overall. I understand- New England is still pretty much in trouble.
I understand your point in theory. Like, is Josh Allen going to go through three road games, potentially? Three road games. And as Dan highlighted, no one... Bo Nicks doesn't scare anybody. He just showed you what he can do climbing back from a 21 hole at Foxborough. If there's a quarterback, he quit, that you feel confident in going through these other quarterbacks in the AFC, it's certainly Josh Allen.
If he doesn't win this year, Josh Allen, he's never going to win.
I don't want to do always and never. I do want to highlight a couple of things that are aberrations. One of them, the Bills six times this season, six, that defense has allowed a rusher to have 185 plus yards. The other team has had 185 or more rushing yards six times. Josh Allen's four and two in those games. What's happening with Josh Allen is something that of the remaining quarterbacks, this can only be said, I believe, of one, not two, not three of the remaining quarterbacks. If you're on defense, you fear him on third and 11, and you fear him on fourth and four. You desperately want the Bills to punt on fourth and anything because he's going to scramble around back there and make plays when he's down 14 to three last week in the game. And they look beat against the bangles on fourth and four. It doesn't matter against him. You are terrified wide on defense because he's different than any player in the league in terms of how much he can just patchwork his team to be four and two when they stink at stopping the run.
And outside of James Cooke, who's he throwing the ball to? It's a couple of tight ends. It's Shaqualee Will Shaq here. They don't really have anybody that's super dominant. It's just Josh Allen willing every single second of the game.
He's a different quarterback than anybody else. And when the score yesterday, I think at one point was 24 to three or 24 to seven. And They showed Mike Vrabel on the sideline just with a huge grin. And you could tell his vibe was, We have this game.
He looked like he thought, We're the best team now.
We have this game. I said to my wife, Has he watched Josh Allen play? Has he watched Josh Allen go to work?
He looked really overconfident.
He did. And that was not a deficit that was safe with Josh Allen.
You see, he got his wife pregnant, Josh Allen. Big news over the weekend, too.
Congrats to them.
Yeah, how about that? I'm watching the announcers in that game, and the Patriots go up 7-0, and they start having the MVP conversation. It's not when the MVP. Well, the Color Man, though, says when they ask him who's the MVP, the Color Man says, Right now at 7-0, Drake May is the MVP, and they wanted so badly to make the story that when Henderson, who's Saquon Barkley reincarnated in the open field, when Henderson is going 75 yards with a countdown and Drake May is blocking for him, the announcers, I can hear them getting out of their seat to celebrate, Look at the quarterback running down the field, making a block 70 yards down the field. That was cool. He is the MVP. No, he's not. It's the other guy.
Block is putting it strongly. It was cool. He just got in the way. He ran down the field and just got in the way.
Stride for stride. A block, though. It's putting it strongly. The MVP is in the other conference. Stafford is the MVP.
Yeah, it's number nine.
We didn't hear that at all. The reigning MVP is in the other huddle, and it has not yet been taken away from him, and neither has the division. Drake May had the chance to do that yesterday. Here's the other thing Josh Allen has, and this one's not small, man. The Patriots are down, and it's fourth and four, and they've got it at their 21-yard line with all their timeouts and more than two minutes in the game, and the announcers are saying the correct thing. You cannot give it back to Josh Allen because the MVP is in the other huddle. You cannot give the football back to Josh Allen because finish you. It's just not something that exists anywhere else. Vrabel coached that game exceptionally well. At the end, the other quarterback is there and you fear him, and so you go for it on fourth and short at your own 21-yard line, and the game's over.
I couldn't believe the theater yesterday, watching the NFL. For week 15, you have, Is this the end for the Chief's questions? You have Buffalo having a Waterloo moment needing to come back from 21: 00 and telling Drake, No, the division isn't yours yet. You're wondering aloud if you're ever going to see Joe Burrow again.
Is Trevor Lawrence good?
Miles Garrett is chasing a record for Sacks in Week 15.
I was locked into Philip Rivers. I watched that whole game. I really enjoyed watching Philip Rivers yesterday.
A lot of people did. I do think that something has changed with Jacksonville, and it's making Jacobi Myers their number one receiver. It's made them less incompetent at some of the very basic things on offense that they were just super sloppy.
Etn is awesome, too.
He is. In spurts. But I thought that Brian Thomas was a number one receiver, and he is not. And as soon as they moved him from number one receiver, all of a sudden, their offense got a whole lot more consistent.
Well, remember, during the buy week, Liam Cohen said, All right, we're going to give Travis Hunter the ability to be our one A guy, and BT will be another guy on the other side. And then Travis Hunter gets hurt. Then all of a sudden, they have it fluxed. They trade for Jacobi Myers, and their offense has been awesome since then.
Well, I want to-Duvall. I want to ask all of you this question because we spend a lot of time talking about football around here, and any Monday, I can come in here and say, Hey, who do you guys think? Which guards played well yesterday? And nobody would have the answer to Hey, everyone.
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Mike, you know I have one rule to live by, right?
Don't place parlays on multiple long shots. Don't say a game is one when it hasn't hit triple zero.
Always drink your Jägermeister ice cold. That's the rule. Everything else is merely a suggestion.
Everything else?
Everything else.
Wearing clean underwear every day?
Well, that's just a personal decision.
Brushing your teeth?
Obviously smart, but not a rule.
Never PP on an electric fence.
Okay, maybe there are two rules, but the one that is 100% that I insist on completely, Jägermeister must be drunk ice cold. Or drink it at all.
Damn, that's cold.
Exactly. You're finally starting to get it.
Drink responsibly. Jägermeister L'Core, 35% alcohol by volume, imported by Mass Jägermeister US, White Plains, New York. Don Levatard.
We got to go back out there. That was big. Wake him up.
He doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that as a result. He needs something that happens. You can see him mother-effic.
Can we bother? Are we bothering you right now?
Turn on your microphone, Greg.
My microphone's on.
Stugatz.
Paint the scene.
The paint the scene is I got to go to work. Good night. This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugats.
I want to submit to you guys based on what you've seen of the Bills defense and statistics. Do you think that for the Bills, Yes or no question. Joey Bosa has had a good season. Yes or no?
No, not a great season. I think he's done well.
Let me do it another way. Five sacks is what he's got this season. Has he had a good season? Yes or no? Five sacks, Joey Bosa.
At his age, that's a good season.
I mean, he made a game-saving play.
Well, this is what I was going to say. He is causing more fumbles than anyone in the league. To me, if I can have that as an ability, if I could get that from somebody, caused five fumbles, that person has had a good season, almost no matter what else they've done, if you can lead the league in caused fumbles, you have had a good He's in just with that. I just don't know that we measure that position very well. We usually do it with sacks. Just about anybody listening to this, if I say five sacks for Joey Bosa, they'd be like, That's one every three games. That's not great.
But he was a good add to a defense that needed him.
Yeah, but they haven't stopped anybody this year. They haven't been good at defense, and they haven't been great at pass rush, which I thought they were going to be.
They probably lose that game if he doesn't make that pass deflection. Wide open receiver there. The last line of defense was Joey Bosa's arms, and he got them up. And now we're talking about how the Bills wouldn't let the Patriots take the division.
Which is exactly what happened in Foxborough yesterday. Those fans, spoiled, entitled, earned arrogance. Those fans thought, halfway through that game, this is us eliminating the Bills as the top of this division. And then the entire stadium is rolling backward, afraid of Josh Allen at the end because you know what's in the other huddle. What are you smiling about?
Whatever. It's two teams that neither one of them are going to win the Super Bowl.
Who do you have winning the Super Bowl? You're just so definitive in burying teams that are right Right now, odds on favorites. So who do you have?
If I ask you right now, Bills and Patriots to win the Super Bowl or the field, what are you going with?
I'll take the Bills. Really? I'll take the Bills.
Field. I'll take the Bills. You just lost money, and I won money.
I think this is how the story goes.
Chargers have a chance.
They have a chance. I think they're the greatest coaches. I locked in a Chargers AFC because I couldn't believe their odds. They were like, north of plus 1,000. I understand the alt injury. Their own line is like, yeah, they're killing Justin Herbert, but their defense is good enough that they got a shot in these. I like that as a flyer, but I think the stars are aligned for the Buffalo Bills.
The Buffalo Bills are going to be much better on defense when they get Ed Oliver back. That's a big, huge reason why everybody running the ball against them. When Ed Oliver is healthy again, which should be soon, I think the Bills are appreciably better on defense.
I'm going to say it again off of that injury yesterday. This is from Bill Barnwell, including sacks and quarterback knockdowns. Mahomes has been hit 153 times this season, a figure toped by only Justin Herber. It brings me to the way that Joe Burrow has been talking recently, that a lot of people have heard the sadness in his voice because he's getting hit a lot. It hurts to get up in the morning. It hurts to rehab through injury. And I will tell you something else that hurts that I think is being undercover when it comes to Joe Burrow speaking of sadness, because Joe Burrow may love football, but I think what he loves more is winning. It's winning football that he loves. Losing football is a different thing. I will tell you that the Cincinnati Bangles, before Joe Burrow got there, were a cheap laughing stock organization for decades, a sad place to work. Cold, antiseptic. You don't like being at the facility, not just because you're losing, but because the program is cheap. Your owners don't actually care about winning. Joe Burrow going to the facility, losing Losing or winning in a city that's different than that one.
Cold and your premises are cheap. Everything around you feels small. Joe Burrow lifts it, but the bangles have been something you've laughed at for 40 years because they're cheap. Joe Burrow walks in and whatever, the stuff he's looking at everywhere is bleak, dark, and sad. Winning covers a lot, but losing doesn't help you getting up in the morning. If your body hurts and it's physically cold, and you're walking to a program that you know is like, Oh, this place is stinky. They're cheap people here. I've lifted them. And then you get yesterday. Do you have the sound of him in the postgame press conference yesterday? We're Joe Burrow the last couple of weeks sounds sad, and it makes me wonder whether he loves football or just winning at football.
We haven't been a good football team. Bad football teams do losing things. Number one, your quarterback has to play better than I did today.
Do you feel like there's too much weight on you where it feels like if you're not perfect, the team is good enough around you to pick you up?
I feel confident in all those guys in the locker room. There's not a team in the NFL that would have won the game today if I was a quarterback.
Joe Flacko loves football. Philip Rivers loves football. I don't know whether Joe Burrow loves football or just winning at football.
You see, talk about being cheap. The bangles yesterday, they didn't clear the snow off the seats. The NFL requires you to clear the snow off the seats before the fans arrive. The bangles didn't do that, so they're likely going to get fined by the NFL. Can you imagine you show up to the game It's however little degrees it is. You have to clear the snow off your seats to watch your team score zero points.
The Bengals in my lifetime, are the only football team I have ever covered that I have thought to myself, they have no interest in actually winning. They're here to make money off of the business of it. They are not interested in spending except as much as the league and the rules insist that they must.
If I were Joe Burrow, and I gave him a lot of credit because I would love the truth, the absolute unvarnished truth from a quarterback in a situation like this, not that he would ever say it. Joe Burrow should have said, We have the worst defense in the NFL. It's quantifiable. Our defense has given up more points than any other team in football. Tough to play like that. Tough for an offense to go into a game knowing that they might have to score 34 points to win.
Yeah, but they needed to... Yesterday, the Ravens needed to score one point to win. Right.
That's true.
How would you get the one point? That's hard. That's hard. It was going to be hard.
Can we just kick an extra point, guys?
It was going to be hard to stop them from scoring the one point that they would have needed to win yesterday.
No, that's fair in that case. But the larger point is that the defense sucks and has for a long time.
But that has nothing to do with yesterday. Yesterday, I know that they've had more games this year. Jeremy, look this up for me. They've had a number of games this year where they've scored 30 plus points and lost. Joe Burrow has had a number of games, so that would be fair on another day. Not yesterday, though. A quarterback could have won them that game yesterday. They needed a quarterback to not throw a pick six that Van Noy is handing to Gilman with- That was awesome.
It looked like a baton race. It was like, Here, take it.
That was cool. The fact that Van Noy knew that I need to give this to somebody who's faster than me. I'm not going to make it those 90 yards.
Or a quarterback that could hit a streaking wide open Jamar Chase. I didn't. I think it's really interesting that after those comments a few days ago, Joe Burrow threw up his worst game.
We all should have known. As a pro. Watching that press conference last week, it should have been so obvious to everyone, Oh, they're going to be really terrible.
Zero points against a defense that has struggled this year. And Joe Burrow doesn't look like himself at all.
How did it happen? Dan, How did it happen where he returned three weeks ago, and he was asked on the sideline by the reporter before the game started why he hurried back. He's just like, I love football. We get paid a lot of money to play a game. I like football. It's fun. And then just three weeks later, I don't know if he's going to play football anymore.
These two teams played. The Bengals moved the ball.
They kicked the shit out of them.
Yeah, they looked good. And then he says he doesn't know if he's having fun, and He's worried about the head injuries, and he sounds like he's got this really dark energy, and they throw up zero points. I think you could really look into those comments.
Three such games this year where the Bengals have scored 30 plus points and lost the game. Two of them were with Joe Flacko, one game in which they scored 42 points against Chicago, and one game where they scored 38 points against the Jets, and both of those losses were at home.
Dan, the handicap seats were covered in snow when the fans got there.
Come Is that a big deal? The handicap seats? Even the handicap seats. You get a neighbor- You say ADA now. You get a neighbor to rush off your seat for you. A neighbor? The seats are this big. The seats are this big. You go like this with your hand.
Get rid of the snow.
It's such a Florida guy right there.
Let me give you a better stat here, okay? Over the last two years, the rest of the NFL, when scoring 33 points, is 136, 10, and 2. So there have been 148 games played, and 10 of them have been losses. Cincinnati, when scoring at least 33 points the last two years, 4 and 7. So seven of those 10 losses are Cincinnati. It's just their defense is terrible. That's my point. And he's feeling hopeless.
Yes. Can't believe how Golden didn't fix this.
I am stunned.
It was right.
Monster Miami Sports Night, according to Zazlo, the Dolphins are playing. Are you going to hate watch that? How does this work?
Why would I hate watch? They're my team. I'm going to hope to win watching.
Because you hate watching Tua.
I hate watching Tua, that's for sure. But the 8chan is fun to watch. Yeah, he is. Give the ball to 8chan.
Is he healthy? Is he going to play?
Yeah, he's expected to play. Give the ball to 8chan. I like watching Minka. He's fun to watch. I I'm into this team, man. They got a game that matters. Hey, there are some teams out there like the Kansas City Chiefs. They're done. Dolphins aren't done. I'm watching this game, I'm into it. Hopefully by the time a Dolphin game starts, matter of fact, because the game starts at 8: 15, Panthers start at seven. Hopefully, the Panthers, maybe we got up like 2: 00 at the stupid lightning by then. So I'm in a great mood. The heat game will still be maybe early second quarter. Maybe the heat got a lead. I don't know. I can't predict the future, but hopefully... I mean, can we go three and oh tonight?
Roy, Roy, the lightning, have they fixed everything or just in the regular season? They fixed it in the regular season, which is when-Cats are rolling right now, Roy.
Yes, the Panthers are currently hot with that 4-0 win in Dallas.
That was classic Pancan hockey.
You know about that shut-out?
How can they be hot if they just lost to Colorado 6-2 in Colorado.
It was the second night of a back-to-back in Denver. That's an impossible game.
Colorado has lost how many times this year? Two?
Two times in regulation. Panthers are going to go there, second night of a back-to-back. Please. Panthers went 4-5. They just skunked the Dallas stars. We're cooking with gas right now.
How about the mammoths? Are they good?
Panthers didn't care if they're good or not.
I don't think it's plural. It's just the Utah mammoth. It's a singular ass. Still learning. A singular ass that was taken. A bunch of mammoth ass.
Only one mammoth ass.
A singular mammoth ass. One of them.
K'chuck is coming back soon.
And tonight, the heat plate Toronto.
Per Jeff Passon, first baseman, Josh Bell, has agreed to terms with the Minnesota Twins. The 33-year-old is a switch hitter who will help them both offensively and defensively.
Wow, still doing Vecna, huh?
He found a bit that works, and in the style of this show, we run it right into the ground. Several episodes past its expiration date, we Between Josh Bell updates. Well, the original ones weren't any better than that. I miss Josh Bell. Josh Bell is worthy of an update locally. That's a good local update. That's a former Marlin who made a postseason with the franchise.
God, three notes. That would be so good. Panthers, heat Dolphins. I'll be on fire tomorrow.
See you on the broadcast.
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"Happy Chanookah."
Dan refuses to let the crew celebrate their Jai Alai Battle Court title without being a troublemaker. Zaslow claims the Chiefs' dynasty is over, and the Bills will NOT win the Super Bowl, but Greg Cote does impressions. He's built different.
Today's cast: Dan, Greg, Zaslow, Chris, Jeremy, Mike, Roy, and Tony.
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