Transcript of Local Hour: The Burning Building (feat. Paul)

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Supposedly, Mike is paying a punishment right now.

All right, I'm going to cut you off. He just looks cool. No, I'm going to cut you off because I feel the animosity because I'm able to pull off this That's Dentec punishment. It's supposed to be a cowboy? Okay. Like you were crawling through the desert having to call Dan D. L. B.

But that's also not a cowboy hat. That's a hat someone from the Lumineers would wear.

Well, that actually cuts me to my core and hurts more than the actual punishment. But I think you look cool.

Those nicknames were hard to pull off.

Yeah, I'm sure. I mean, what are we doing? Roy brought Greg like two waters. We call that a punishment.

It was two waters, two coffees, an ice pack, and an ottomen.

Okay. All right. Yeah. No. I like that you- Real suffrage.

I will say the- I did. The way you're holding the headphones, that does seem like it stinks.

This is a true punishment. You know how the last punishment was like, wow, that's a really cool Pfizer racing shirt, but you guys didn't have to shop for jeans at a shop. That's its own unique hell. Here, I'm having to wear a cowboy hat. They haven't made functional headphones for a cowboy hat. This is not a cowboy hat. Well, I can't put my headphones over it. Oh, wait. No, we're good. Oh, yeah, this is easy.

You know who's fault this is, right?

The Dallas Cowboys. Ud?

Udonis Haslum. From all I've heard of, Oh, he's the enforcer. He's going to come in and make people do the things that he... What's Mike doing? He wore this shirt in Mexico with me.

This is not a punishment. I do love this shirt, and I love this hat, and I do look good.

I should have known better than when Mike said, Oh, no, I've got a cowboy outfit that I can wear.

Sweet.

What is your punishment?

What is it? I had to wear the mascot costume of the team that lost for me at the Dentec bucket, and I had the cowboys.

That's you as a cowboy?

I'm a cowboy.

And it's a cowboy. It's not just a cowboy, but a cowboy.

What are you dressed as?

A cowboy that Jeremy thinks is cool, and Chris is saying should be your new look, that all you've done is dress how you would normally dress and put on a on a hat, and a hat that's not quite a cowboy's hat. It's not quite a cowboy hat.

It's not a cowboy hat. It seems like you guys are just jealous because I'm handsome.

Well, yeah.

Well, noted. Tell me about shopping for the thrift shop for jeans. Tell me about that.

He went to a store that was the best thrift store in Miami and shopped for jeans that were probably like 160 bucks.

I don't even know if you can call it a thrift store. It's more of just a cool vintage shop.

It's vintage. It's vintage. That's right. Those are not synonyms. That's you stealing from metal art.

Again, it's Udonis' fault. He's going to be taught two lessons. That is true. Today's show, because I look really cool. On the Magic City front on, when our cyclones beat his renegades once again.

Down year for the gates.

I'm going to need you guys as help on all of this because Udonis is asking too much money to be an enforcer.

You are a bad negotiator. You're just a terrible negotiator. You told the audience he was joining us, he had assigned a job, and now you're saying he's asking for too much money. Just bad negotiator.

This is like the Charlie Sheen doc all over again.

This is the Dan Levatore show with the Stugats podcast. Zazlo, I've got a burning building here with the Miami Dolphins, and I've got Tua out in front, and press conference has to be given when you're out in front of a burning building. This is as high as the flames can climb on a franchise. What it made me do is do something in the realm of journalistic. I'm going to just say that I haven't done this in a few years, but I made some calls.

The emeritus.

Now, did you feel pressure yesterday?

Well, here's the thing. Mike Ryan is old enough to know. I want to know what I made some calls means when Mike Ryan happens to know, and what is the highest form of journalistic intelligence we have around here when we're just saying, Hey, Wink Wink, trust us on this. We've got journalistic sources here.

When Harold Columnus Emeritus says he's made some calls, that's higher on the totem pole, even though historically, the more important things go at the bottom of the totem pole. But people are dumb. That is higher on the totem pole than I happen to know.

That doesn't make sense. No one would ever say, I'm really low on the totem pole to say how important they are. I got to push back on that.

You happen to know after the phone call. Just saying you made the phone call, you might not have found out anything.

Well, we can compare notes because you made a couple of phone calls, and when it comes to the University of Florida, I happen to know. Whoa.

Okay, so we've got competing- He happens to know?

Yeah. Great.

Scott, he happens to know. He happens to know.

Gather everyone. Get the children. He happens to know.

So why?

Mike's got some credentials here, Zaz, in that when Mike's reporting things, whether it's messy to Miami, beating everyone around the globe as an insider or from the insides of the business of football where you're seeing, Hey, James Franklin, $50 million? No, this is where we play now. Everyone's playing Phil Knight, and it takes $20 million to get in the game. And so I want to talk about what's happening in two places here. One, with Tua as a building burns and everyone tries to get out. And how do you imagine, even if I didn't make these calls, how do you imagine it would be to be Tua when everything around your franchise is everyone's about to be swept out to see here and Tua, you're going to end up in the backup lane as bad contract guy. It's everyone for themselves, and the moment demands real leadership. But how do you lead when you're giving a press conference in front of a burning building? What you guys thought was gibberish yesterday in the press conference after the game where he's saying, No, no, no, no, no, it's on me, it's on me, It's on me.

He's talking about multitasking. What are we talking about?

No, this was a huge overcorrection from somebody who's giving press conferences in front of a burning building, and the mistake that he made is, Hey, I won the chargers game. Not my fault. I won the chargers game. Everyone else's fault, they don't show up to meetings. That's why we didn't make two tackle. That's why Jalen Phillips didn't make that tackle.

All right, you get five burning buildings in the first segment. This is Pukas' open hands.

Okay, I'll stop here. I'm just telling you that what's happened to That has real human cost on leadership, whether you're risking your brain being scrambled or talking to your family about, should I play or should I quit for the 250 million? Should I risk this? And yesterday we're talking about, well, is it gibberish because his brain is concussed? What happened in that press conference is that Tua wildly overcorrected because he realized the error and the mistake in throwing out into the public in front of everybody, this is everyone else's fault and not mine, in a room full of employees who come to the same meetings he does every day, and their bodies hurt just as much as he does, and they're in the burning building, too. That's the last one. I doubt that. Two of lost his guy. Nice.

And they don't have the contract. What's the word I'm looking for? The contract and the- The signing bonus?

The guarantees?

Yes, the guarantees, essentially. Certainties?

Is that where you got stuck?

I said, Certainties.

The point is the money is about to dry up and everyone's going to be swept out to sea. And two was sitting there on the life raft saying, It's not my fault. And he lost everybody. That's not leadership.

No, but now he's saying it's totally his fault. It's a mess. It's a mess. And I will say, we've done this show several times over the decades where it's like, I'm not sure the flames can reach much higher on this franchise. They move buildings, but if you went to the one in Davy, you'd see the torched embers of Bullygate. It happens a lot to bad franchises.

For the point of the fun we made about Tyreek Hill being the leader of the team, all of a sudden, now you move Tyreek Hill out of that locker room and everybody's looking around and saying, All right, so who is the leader of the team, Tua? Is it you? And he's like, I think so.

No, but guys, let's really deconstruct. This is amazing to watch, the architecture of this. Before the season started, you've got two players on the Dolphins and only two who are stars, national stars. It's Tua and Tyreek Hill. This is what Tyreek Hill came down here for. He quit on last season at the very end. The pressure of all that was too much for him. He's wimpering on his way out the door. And so this season starts with Tua saying, Well, my guy is going to have to rebuild some trust. And we said, Look at Tua being a leader. All right. It's a little easier to do when you got the guaranteed money, and it's also very hard for you to do when you're risking your brain in a way that others are aren't because you care as well. But now the noise starts. The Zazlows are firing your coach every week. Everything is pulsating in the city. Greg Cody is a month late to the opinion, These guys all suck. No one can lead them. And the truth is, of course, no one can lead them. Who the hell could? At this point, it's tethered to nothing.

They're all being swept out to see getting demotions on what were their careers. Everybody, everybody at the top of the franchise. There is no one to salvage them. There's no future Hope pick who would be Jalen Waddle. But I want to talk to you guys about the specifics of, he walks back into the room without knowing that he's broken it. He walks back in after that chargers game. Wasn't me. Wasn't me. I saved this at the end. Zaz, that's how that shit climbs, and it just engulfed him. Tua will have a hard time bringing the career back from the ashes of this punctuation.

Is that what he's talking about where in the nonsense postgame press conference where he's talking about, I'm trying to bring guys with me. When you put it that way, it sounds like a guy who is trying to get people to come with him, but he's having a hard time.

The Miami Dolphins are a giant business in the middle of our city, and it makes money for a lot of people. These guys are the stars locally. They haven't deserved it. The franchise hasn't earned it the last 25 years. They're a laughing stock. Generation after generation, the only thing that's the same always is the owner, except he desecrated everything that Joe Robby and Heisenga did before him. That's his great shame at the end of his life. Makes a lot of money, but is a loser. Makes a good stadium, brings F1 down here, but is a professional sports loser.

Can never hire the right-hand person.

Can make money, but not wins.

A hell of a stadium. I mean, that franchise value.

It's a good game to experience.

Oh, it's a great stadium. No venue in the world like it.

Playing the conga now on third downs. For UM games. That's a problem.

How could two of them be so bad at the leadership aspect of this? Dan, it's not in his second year.

It can't be led.

He's in his sixth year.

What I'm telling you is it can't be led. Look, Mike is old enough to know. This is why I was laughing about the making of calls. It used to Adam- Old enough to know?

He's old enough to know. Oh my God, he's old. I see his grades. Oh my God, he's old.

How do you introduce yourself on the call? He's old. Do you say, Is this calmness, this calmness, Marius?

I blow the cobwebs off a landline.

Is that why he's wearing that hat?

What's under there, buddy? You better be going somewhere after 40, pal. I need you to explain this one to me real quick.

He's old enough to know Adam Gase came over to the Clevelander at one time when coaches to come kiss the media ring of how information gets brokered to protect your jobs.

It's an Adam Gase reference. We're good.

The Dolphins don't have a thing other than Hill and Tua and McDaniel. That's their face to the league.

Right, but look, I don't know if it's a leadership problem that's plagued this franchise since the turn of the century, but they had Bill Parcells and nick Saban at the helm. Those guys reputed to be really good leaders. Sometimes it's the dudes on the field.

Okay, but it could also be as simple as Saban would still be the coach here over all of these years, and we wouldn't have had any of these bozos because he selected Drew Brees and made Drew Brees what Sean made, made Drew Brees and never left Miami for Alabama because he loved it so much here. That was a It was a doctor's decision that kept Saban from loving Miami because instead of 6 and 8 or 6 and 10, he was going to be able to be 10 and 6 every year.

nick Saban's greatness is so understood and universally accepted that people think that he could do with Drew Brees, which Sean Payton did. Sean Payton has proven that he's really good at working with quarterbacks. Who's to say? When we say that, maybe Dante Culpepper has a Hall of Fame career if he ends up being the guy.

I loved Culpepper. I was all in. I loved him. I was wrong.

Do we have this right when La'Shon McCoy says on his podcast, Up to a, he stinks. When they paid him- That was not wrong.

Oh, there's more.

When they paid him, I couldn't believe it. Why are they paying him? What are they paying him for? The gig's up, bro. Tua has 22 interceptions in his first 30 games under McDaniel, but has thrown 18 pics in 19 games since.

Yeah, see, I think that revisionist history is garbage.

Right. The revisionist history that should be applied was the only concern around this contract was he's a hit away.

When the contract was given, everyone else in his draft class had already signed those deals. This was the going rate. They didn't give him... He didn't become the highest paid quarterback. It was like Dak Prescott. This is the going rate to sign a quarterback who has had some type of success in the league to another contract. And the second part of it is we're talking as if the guy we're seeing today from Tua is the same as the one who got that contract. It's not. That was a good player. This is a bad player. So it's revisionist history to talk He should have never gotten that contract. You can't predict that he's going to be washed in two years from now, which is what's happened.

Yeah, but Zaz, the thing is you look at the open market and you go, All right, you want to test for agency? Go ahead. Who's going to give you that offer? Nobody was going to give Tua that offer.

Oh, no, I think you're Really? You think so?

Somebody would have. With what we saw on national TV, somebody said, I'm going to give him $200 million.

These teams are so desperate for a quarterback. It's the only way to win in the league. One of the 32 teams out there is desperate enough to sign a guy who just came off of being the most passing yards in the NFL. Absolutely.

Do you guys not realize that the truelegy in this is... It is without precedent in the market where everyone in the same half season gets swept to see. What will be left here, we just saw to his punctuation. He verbalized it, and he goes down in the flames now as well. In half a season, we will turn to the Dolphins to be like, Who leads them? Who do you care about on this team? Who goes into the next incarnation? Waddle and Achan? What have they left here? It's all going to be embers. They went all in on, We're going to get Tyreek Hill. We're going to get Chubb, we're going We're close to the Chiefs. We're right there.

We got one of their guys over here.

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I'll be honest. I'm surprised that they're not taking calls on Jalen Waddle. They should. That contract looks like it's He sucks now, all right? He's not a bad wider, but he's fine, but that contract sucks.

He's a great number three.

Big Dog was saying today he wouldn't even take a one for him. You mean Joe Rose? That he would turn down a first-round pick for Waddle.

He wouldn't trade him.

He's like, It would have to be It's like a top five pick from me to take yesterday.

What? I think you heard that wrong. Is he even saying? I don't even believe you.

No, I'm with you, Zaz.

I think you heard that wrong. Yes. That doesn't make sense.

Might be time if that's Joe's take, carrying water.

Why are you making things up this morning, Chris? I'm not.

I was listening. Listen to me. Chris wants a protected fish. Chris Cody loves Joe Rose, will always love Joe Rose. He comes in, barrels in every day saying, This is what the big dog said. I don't know why the big dog has him on a leash, but Chris Cody didn't just have his own opinion there as a lifelong Dolphin fan. No, no, no, no, no, no. He's going to recycle the big dogs.

Let's just make sure we're clear on what Chris is saying that Joe Rose said. He would only trade Jalen Waddle for a top five pick.

His first take was, There's three guys on this team you keep: Paul, Achan, and Waddle. Paul is the second-round left tackle. No, no, no. That's a good pick. The Dolphins last year, second-round pick, left tackle, Patrick Paul. He seems like he's going to be legit.

I had no idea what his first or last name was.

It's Patrick Paul. He's supposedly a good left tackle. So he's like, Those are the three guys. And then his producers started pushing-The first one he went with was Paul. No. Dolphin fans, no Paul.

Chris, you are doing the correct thing.

You guys are showing your ass here. If you guys don't know who Patrick Paul is. They say him third.

Chris, it's not what I'm doing.

No, he's like their number one. I would say he's the most capable.

That's on his blind side, though, to a lefty. It's true.

Not as valuable.

Chris, I understand your defensive posture. You are correct. Paul.

Paul, Achan, Waddle. Listen.

You go H-Annen Waddle, Paul.

A law firm.

Okay, listen, Chris, I'm just going to explain something to you real quick, just on what's happening behind you right now, okay? I understand that you are correct that Paul is indeed a redeemable dolphin, one of three they have on a roster that has 50 more of those.

Then Hollywood pushes back. What about you got to give up Waddle?

Let me just finish for a second, Chris.

Well, I want to hear what Hollywood I'm pretty sure that Tony and Mike are only laughing at you because they think that you've just identified some guy named Paul that they've got playing left tackle who they just assume it's just they've got to keep Waddle.

They got to keep nobody else, and just that guy Paul.

Paul, he's there. No, we're the butt of the joke. I had no idea who you were talking about. Paul, the guy who makes some smoothies, right? Some dude named Paul.

First name or last name?

Patrick Paul, left tackle, second round pick last season.

You're correct. But the big dog is in your dreams right now when he says, The big dog tells you on the way in. And of course, this is lunacy what he's saying. Big dog, you've seen wide receivers. Come on, big dog. Waddle is not a number one. He's a nice number two. And it is now a terrible contract added to the pile of 895 million of those that Chris Greer gives on the way out the door as be careful how you fire the black man. Brian Flores has a lawsuit in town, and I'm sorry I stepped on the joke yesterday that said that the Dolphins would be firing consecutive black coaches. Good job, Dan. I think a lot of the audience probably doesn't still know that Mike McDaniel is black.

Get out of here with that.

I don't think you're qualified.

Hold on a minute.

Get out of here. It's been three years.

We're not the one to say it.

Get out of here. I'll say it right now. Get out of here with that. Be careful. Mike McDaniel. Be careful, Mike McDaniel. What are we talking about?

I don't think you're qualified to be... I don't think you're the qualified... I This is not a place I put you as judge, but you have said you're a race expert.

Race war experts.

I'm going to start one.

You know what? I don't think I am. Mike McDaniel.

Is that crackling I hear.

Do we think that this is more of a blaze or an inferno around the dolphins? If we were to try to categorize this fire, blaze, inferno-Five alarms.

Or just a warm fire in the living room.

No, at Tyreek's house, behind Mike It's right there, the picture of Tyreek's house when it did catch fire.

Do you think Tye-Rick watches the Dolphin Games?

That's a great question. Put it on the poll at Levitard Show. Do you think Tye-Rick watches the Dolphin? Got to go no. Yes or no? Well, but I wonder if you've broken your leg in the name of this cause. And like I'm saying to you, he couldn't be the leader. He couldn't be the captain. Remember these conversations we were having before the season? Tyreek Hill cannot be the leader of this team. How was everybody right about these dolphins when they said, whatever, soft, not made for this, not led by anybody, really. Tyreek Hill comes, gets his stardom. Everyone knows, Oh, the whole thing works only if he's faster than everyone else. That's where it works best, all of it. Tua gets his money and a room full of people who haven't, Tua says, Their fault, not mine. And that's a giant business in Miami. And to see it go up in flames like this, I can say, I think, historically, 50 years in, there's never been anything like it. Where your GM is the GM that has the longest stretch of never winning a playoff game, and you're just recycling through coaches, and all of them stumble at the finish line, all of them since Saban, and your organization is bad.

For a quarter century, when all the rules legislate that everything should be equal, your team is the worst if only the Jets didn't exist.

I feel like Cody said it in passing yesterday, the lawsuit Chris Greer thing, but I'm having trouble digesting that. I think he's right. I think it's a really big thing, and that's why Chris Greer may not be going anywhere.

That needs some reporting. I don't think we can do- That seems like a really big deal. Wait a minute. Hold on a second. I don't think we can do that that way. You can't just throw like... Time to throw away all journalistic credibility and get reckless. Here is something we like to call reckless speculation. You're good.

Is it reckless? Is it reckless to think that if Chris Greer is no longer employed by the Dolphins, that he may side with the lawsuit as opposed to his former employer who just fired it? Yes. That's reckless? Yes.

Yeah,. But I love it. It's scandalous and wrong, but I do love it. Wait a minute. Just on human terms, think of it this way. On just human terms, you're Steven Ross. You buy anything you want in the world. You have not been able to buy, I'm a competent Miami Dolphins owner. And at the end, the other black guy I gave a chance is going to be in the lawsuit that tells everybody all my secrets about all the things I was doing. And that's going to be the punctuation of not only my ownership, but of my life because I'm in my '80s and I desperately did. I'm imagining that Steven Ross... Think about this and the things rich people can buy. I'm that Steven Ross, what hurts him the most here is that people don't think he cares, that he's just running the franchise that he doesn't care. I think he cares a lot. If it's the opposite of that, and that's still an opinion you can't change for as long as you live with all the money in the world, when you've made a big, giant economy in Miami with land over there around that stadium, land, I'll remind you that Joe Robby's family went bank off trying to protect because these businesses are giant economies.

And I've never seen this one swallowed this way. I don't think it's overreaction to say that half a season in, not even the one in 15 season, because they got Cam Cameron out in a year, that there's never been this, where you just see, wait, you blink and you're like, okay, so one of the most precious jewels in the history of South Florida, they're going to have to start all over from nothing, again? From nothing. No, quarterback, Achan, if you don't break his leg on the way out. And Waller, what?

But that's the league. It's the league. That's not the league. It is. If you're not the Steelers or packers-For some teams, yeah. That's the league. It really is. Look at your division. It was a bills for a very long time.

How much do you imagine it burns Steven Ross that at the end, he can't buy? We'll laugh at you till the grave. You will not dig this out. It will not... Your punctuation here will be, you ran it all into the ground. For 25 In five years, you ran the entire... Do you know how arrogant the dolphins have been about business in this town for 40 years?

What is the discourse amongst dolphin fans around Steven Ross? Do they think he's a buffoon?

I don't hear as negative as Dan talks.

No, I do. I think Dolphin fans because I push back against it, because I think Steven Ross does care a lot. I happen to think.

You happen to think.

Happend to think.

Yeah, I happened to think.

I don't have imaging for that.

All right, get on. I happen to know Steven Ross He cares deeply. Oh, my God. He knows.

You happen to think versus I happen to know?

I know he cares deeply. Come, everyone.

Come and listen.

He happens to know.

He happens to know.

Well-informed. I happen to think. Okay. That's good for you, though. I happen to think that Steven Ross has been a good owner because he puts money into the team. It's a great game day experience. He tries. He does. He's not a deadbeat owner. But when you're not willing to make the change that is necessary necessary for the football team to improve, that's where we are right now. I believe it's like, Dude, come on. But I hear plenty of Dolphins fans who think that he doesn't care at all and only cares about making money. I hear a lot of that.

Yeah, but spending money is easy for him, right? You're going to put an F1 track? All right, what's all about $100 million? Who cares? All right, do this, do that. Tennis, this, that, whatever.

You know what's hard?

It's that easy, Tony. True.

No, but when you're a billionaire, you can make things happen very quickly. You know what's hard? Firing your GM, firing your coach, giving a quarterback $200 million. He probably doesn't deserve it. That's the tough stuff that he just doesn't do.

Now, extra wrinkle in the whole lawsuit Chris Greer situation, that if he doesn't fire him, he'll have to keep him from talking. If he does fire him, are we sure that Chris Greer would then be team Flores? Because they hated each other in the end.

Everybody hated Brian Flores down here. Stop it. He can fire the GM and head coach. He will at the end of the season. You think there is no shot these guys guys are coming back?

I'm concerned.

No shot. Zero shot. The only thing that he'd be doing in firing McDaniels and Greer is making people online happy that it happened sooner than it will happen.

Chris Greer was scouting Leonora Sellers and John Mateer this weekend.

That's hilarious. He has to be there, looking at other GMs like, Can you believe I'm here?

He would probably be doing that if he were out of work for the networking aspect because he wants to stay in the league.

I honestly bet he was networking more than watching You have to be.

The writing's been on the wall. Why fire the coach? That's a move that either placates a fan base, and it's been reported that he would give serious consideration to firing McDaniels if disinterest to reach a certain level. So we'll see what the stadium looks like. I guess he would just be giving people a pound of flesh, but I would venture to say- Fans want a pound of flesh. Which is different than happen to think or happen to know, but I would venture to say he's made up his mind Don Levatard. In terms of heat fans, you're the most irrational of us right now. What's the pivot?

Oh, we're irrational.

Stugatz. Oh, am I irrational? Did you not hear your voice there? It's going to talk to me, my boy, dude. If I were making a cartoon thing that was meant to symbolize irrational. That's the voice I would give it.

The entire premise- This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugats.

I implore you to the degree that I can to... I know these people are cartoon characters, okay? The Steven Ross that would have any degree of pride of not wanting to be an international embarrassment as a sports owner. Because, yeah, you can win the game of money the way Jerry Jones has won it and be respected with power, or you can buy your way into the club the way he did and just have really 25 years of epic failure. It's not just the Patriots running your division, it's the Bills then taking it from you. When they hadn't made the playoffs for 17 years. All the rules are stacked so that you should... I give anyone 25 years, they're going to win a payoff game. Anybody. I can give a team of circus clowns 25 years will stumble into a playoff off victory, one season with an assortment of leadership. This has been an epic run of failure that makes the Dolphins in these 25 years, undisputably. This is not an overreaction. His presiding over this makes it a A quarter century of failure in a team where the heat took the town from him. Nba opens today.

He took the town from him, and the Panthers have Brad Marshawn as their champion leader face on national television because they've lost the town to teams that are organizations that have been run better as Steven Ross, with all the money in the world, has presided over, How do I get in the game with Kraft and Jerry Jones? This is why I implore people to understand, God, I wish these people didn't have a salary cap, because at the end of Steven Ross would have made it rain billions trying to not have his life end with, Oh, everyone's laughing at me at the end. To the grave. To the grave. Like, Heisenga at the end who owned this team was being taken care of in hospice because he had lost his mind, and at the end, the legacy and empire meant nothing. Steven Ross knows he's at the tail end of his life and career with this thing. He would pay any amount of money, any amount of money, to not have it be this at the end of his life.

You're killing an 85-year-old billionaire. That's not how this works. Glenn Taylor, they thought he was going to die 20 years ago. These guys live forever.

Drinking blood?

Buy a new heart or something.

The other thing that we have a fresh reporting on.

What's a heart going for in the black market today?

You don't want to know.

I'll look it up.

Put it on the poll at Levitard show. I got a guy. Put an over under on this poll.

You want me to give you the real number? No, you don't want the real number. The real number is Got it cheap. Cheaper than you thought, but still.

Because the body can reject it.

Exactly right.

Do you get money back?

If it does, not on the black market.

Bitcoin, baby.

You're telling me I can buy a human heart for 500K?

Five hundred thousand as is.

Now, obviously, if you want it more souped up, right? You want, Hey, I want this heart, that heart. Obviously, it's going to cost a little bit more.

Ai is telling me the average cost of a heart transplant in the US is approximately 1. 9 million.

Yeah, but that's over. That's your medical job.

That's services. That's labor.

That's labor right there.

It's the heart. Well, if the Democrats came to Congress. Thank you.

Thought we would get to that finally.

They're shut down. They own it. I like this guy. Hell of a ball room.

Good hat.

Should be red.

$500, Dano.

That's good.

I cannot believe the confidence with which you knew how much a human heart goes for on the black market in Hialea. She's like, right away. Well, Tony is about those particular... Look, Tony, I've told you guys before that my father, who's not unlike his father, once found a spare tire for me for $10 in a door that opened in Hialea where they fixed my car for $10.

You know how many human hearts Steven Ross could buy? 34,000. Because he has 17 $14 billion. I think he's okay at the end of his life.

That honestly seems low.

$500,000 times $34,000.

Big Michigan booster. They want an Addy. He's fine. He's had some success.

You guys don't think that it matters to him that he's an international laughing stock, desecrating one of the great and proud franchises in the history of a lead that just got this popular? Dolphins, I will rhyme people again, winning his franchise, '70s, '80s, '90s, in all of sports.

I don't think he's an international laughing I don't think it's Shoreditch. They're like, The Steven Ross, bro. I don't think so. I had to ask Zaz, What's a temperature check on Steven Ross? I think most people would say, Yeah, the dolphins are struggling, but Steven Ross has done a pretty good job. I remember what the conversation was like around Wayne Heisinga and how mad and sell the team. And yeah, you'll have segments of the fan base that'll do that whenever there are struggles. But I don't think the struggles are because Steven Ross Ross is disinterested. I think he's super involved and is also trusting the people that he's hired. He just hasn't made the right hires. That's the business. Only four franchises consistently over our lifetimes have been in the conversation routinely outside of a couple of seasons here or there.

Well, and people down here treat it differently, right? If you look at the way we responded to Jeffrey Lauria, it was because they were selling high on players. That's not really ever what happens with the Dolphins. They let things run their course, whether it's coaches or players. And most fans look at it as like, Oh, man, I'm sad this didn't work out. The bigger criticism would be holding on to guys for too long, whether that was Ryan Tannehill or now Chris Greer, GM.

Well, let's Look at his scandals, right? Bulligate happened on his watch. That was bad. He put together a council that featured Curtis Martin, and they had a call.

But his other-They've never got together. Pablo needs to find out about this. We've been trying to find out for years. We don't believe there was ever a meeting of that task force.

He's got this Brian Flores thing, which is adjacent to the pursuit of the greatest quarterback ever.

Yeah, the offensive line coach who was snorting them grains with the stripper.

Oh, yeah.

Chris Forster. That was a fun night to work at WSPN.

Grains?

Yeah. So you're saying that's when it gets stuck. That's what the kids call them, man. Got to be green.

Cocaine is grains?

It was his words, not mine. Yeah. What?

What do you mean what? That was a crazy video.

Are you looking at me?

I think of Bruce Sherman more negatively than I do the Dolphins.

Relax.

I do. Sideline reporter. You sent this one out.

They haven't spent money. I know that they don't draw attendance. They're better.

They've hired a President of Base operations that actually knows what he's doing.

Okay, a couple of years ago, the Dolphins had a cup of coffee being good, too. Don't get excited over one good half of season. I'm just saying- No, the Marlins are better run. That's crazy. I disagree.

I would push back on that. It's an amazing narrative shift because Bruce Sherman wasn't spending any money, and he brought in Derek Jeter, and he was a disaster.

I'm just saying over the last... I'm going to say over the last 12 months. I'm going to say over- I mean, it's small.

Okay.

Okay, it's a tiny sample.

But what you were saying two years ago was Steven Ross, you got it, man. Congratulations.

We can just Look, since Bruce Sherman has been here. How many years has Bruce Sherman been here, Jeremy? What? Ten?

They've got a couple of play-up- 2018. They've got a couple of play-off appearances.

That's exactly right. I would think the Dolph- It's harder to do in baseball.

The Dolphins also have a couple of play-off experiences. I I think over the what? The last four years, they have the same amount?

No, but I think, I don't want to speak for Jeremy. He can speak for himself. You haven't been paying attention to the last 12 months if you think this is still a poorly run organization. That's all. That's all I'm saying.

From a front office perspective, it really is. We'll see what happens this offseason, what supplements are put in there to add to what's been going on.

I like Bendix.

I'm just still- It's this stale organization in the Dolphins. I think that's the frustration, right?

I'm pushing back on Dan just like, I don't know what I'm doing. I might be wrong. I don't think of Steven Ross as the main problem with the Dolphins.

The Dolphins have won. The Marlins have won two championships and with no payroll, not with equal payrolls, with no payroll. And in a pandemic season, they've made the playoffs twice. It's ridiculous, but it's harder to do than the Dolphins make it look in football, where over 25 years, I'm not kidding when I tell you I could just hire a team of circus in 25 years, I'll win a playoff game. A playoff game. One. One wild card playoff game. It's a crazy, epic fail at the end of Steven Ross's career.

The Browns won a playoff game.

That's true. Marlins won a wild card series.

Panthers won two Stanley Cups. Well, we're back.

I want to get to one more happens to know because Mike Ryan has fresh reporting snooping around the Florida job. Billy Napier. I thought that was a pretty seismic change. We've got three great jobs in this state and two decent ones. At FAU and FIU, people who keep trying to build their way to what Cristopal gets to be a part of. But Florida getting rid of its head coach as a standard setter in the middle of a season saying, We beat Mississippi State, but no, we need to climb to where, ridiculously, Missouri and Vanderbilt are, where we're a more serious competitor and threat to Alabama. Florida has fallen behind, knows it, and so guillotines somebody because the building was burning there, too, and the stakes there in Gainesville. They've just told you what the standard is. It's higher than it is at most places. They'll pay for someone to go away. Middle of the season, get out of here.

Whether it be Penn State or Florida, it's safe to say both those schools. Right now, the highest commanding salary in the sport is Kirby Smart, which is at 13 and change. I expect us to go in the $15 million range, be it Penn State, be it Florida, be it both those schools.

Do you think if James Franklin wasn't fired, would Florida have fired Billy Napier this week?

That's an interesting question. I don't know, but I do think that the James Franklin decision has made other programs. Like FSU, they had a big come to Jesus meeting, and they decided, We'll stay the course. Their financial situation is more dire than Florida. Florida has got a war chest waiting for this day for several seasons. The leading contender at both these schools is Marcus Freeman from Notre Dame. There was some back channeling last year.

It seems like he loves it there.

He wants to go to the pros. I think, as I understand it, what happens in Notre Dame's season- Happend to understand?

He said, Happens to Notre Dame.

What happens to Notre Dame is important.

I want to know what level of reporting you're giving us here. The leading contender- You happen to understand.

It's like 1A, 1B, Marcus Freeman, Lane Kiffin. Wow. And whoever it is, is I want to get a bag. They're talking about serious bags. And there was a level back channeling last year with Marcus Freeman in Florida, gaging interest. Just like there's always been, Lane Kiffin flirting with a return to the state of Florida. It's like players in the portal. You may have a coach. It's what's happening with Steven Ross right now. You may have a coach in place, but you're making calls. So the dream ideal candidate is dropping a bag and taking Marcus Freeman from Notre Dame.

This is breaking news being delivered by Cowboy Mike Ryan. No one else is reporting that. Yeah, Cowboy.

I don't know about Cal.

This is Cowboy Mike Ryan. He's reporting exclusively. That's what happens to know.

I'm not reporting exclusively.

The international media needs to pick this up. What do you mean you're not reporting exclusively?

There are people that are plugged in to Florida that you check the blogs, they're like, Lane Kiffin, Marcus Freeman, too.

I haven't heard anyone else. I'm giving it to you.

Okay, I'll take it. But I mean, the Florida pursuit of Marcus Freeman and Lane Kiffin is years long and is pretty well understood.

Notre Dame does not look. Brian Kelly has been exposed at LSU. Notre Dame, everyone understands this, right? They don't think they're beneath Florida. They don't think that they lose their hotshot. They're about the Holy Touchdown Jesus, and you're about the pride of what this school makes you. Notre Dame coaches don't take demotions to go to the SEC.

You know about Touchdown Jesus?

You saw it.

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