Transcript of Local Hour: Dan Gets Racist Again

No, Greg Cody is hovering over the penalty minute thing. This would be the most delayed penalty in the history of delayed penalties. What are you threatening to press there? What are you doing? What are you threatening to press? No, don't do that.

Minor penalty, two minutes. Accidental racism.

Oh, yeah.

Wow.

Oh, yeah. Tyrod Humpe me. Accidental?

Had to be done.

Wow.

All right. There you go. That's how we're starting today, How about me and my dad getting haircuts yesterday without knowing we were getting haircuts?

A couple of Coties just randomly getting haircuts.

Yeah, well, you knew I was because I asked you about the number thing. That's true.

I forgot about that part.

Wait, hold on a second. You showed up separately to the barber?

We don't go to the same place. What did you get, three? My dad goes to Supercuts.

Why not? Why don't you guys go to the same place?

Why are you making fun of that? It's a $20 haircut.

Hold on, that's true? That's where you go?

Yeah. It's $20?

A couple of Coties literally cutting it up.

There you go. It's actually 23 bucks, which is an outrage. They're 20 minutes. It costs more than a dollar a minute to get a hair cut nowadays.

You still tip in like it's the '90s?

Yeah, what's the tip situation?

I tip generously.

What's that mean?

Five Five bucks?

I'm surprised you're a Supercuts man. I always had you as a guy that went to an old-fashioned place with a barber pole outside. Get a beer. Maybe some people singing a barbershop quartet.

Yeah. I don't want to be around the guy who slaps the leather strap with a- That was my next thought.

A dude that sharpens his straight-edge razor with a leather strap and takes it straight to your face.

That's where I go, oddly enough.

I don't know that guy. He could be a serial killer.

I thought about that yesterday, getting my beard done, where he's doing the razor thing, and then I'm like, he could kill me.

Yeah, I think that occasionally, and then I Google it. How many times does this happen? Barbers, you can trust them. Well, sweetie Todd.

When's the last time, Greg, you got a hot shave at the barber?

Well, you know what Supercuts does now? They put the towel on you afterwards. Wow.

They spared no expense.

Yeah, I mean, it's nice.

Do those towels come cleaned or do you know?

Hey, you don't know. You don't know what happened.

You can tell. I one time got a dirty towel on my face. I'm like, this is the last time you're like, Oh, mercy, man.

You're like, Oh, this smells disgusting.

No, I think it was a clean town.

Check the box, don't be fool. Check the box, the Rudy Ru. Check the box, don't be a fool. Check the box, the Rudy Ru. We're the Dolphins and Mike McDaniel had let us down. Mike McDaniel had let us down. Now everyone's falling over him like the new kid in town. There's only one reason so many teams would want to interview you. We want to say It couldn't be your number one offensive finder that your quarterback is not named to are. There's no way we got this wrong. So why is everyone talking to you? There's no way we got this wrong. So why does everyone want you? I have a guess. No way we got I honestly couldn't believe Greg Cody's report yesterday from a source that he was so defensive about the sourcing that he told us exactly where the source told him the information that the dolphins were wondering whether McDaniel got so many interviews because he's Black.

Well, don't put words in my mouth.

No, that's what you reported.

No, it is not.

Mike was shocked. What do you mean it's not- He didn't say Black.

He said because he qualifies for the Rooney Rule. Right.

But that's the same thing.

I mean, it matters. Framing matters. No, it doesn't.

That's the same thing. Those things are the same thing.

No, Ron Rivera got an interview, Hispanic.

No, but Mac McDaniel didn't get the interviews because he's Hispanic or because he's Black. But Cody reported that yesterday with his mind- Would you quit that? You did that yesterday. You said that a dolphin source wondered to you whether McDaniel- Wondered to me.

Wondered to me. There's no way to know. Okay, there's no way to know. Okay, use your Common Sense. He qualifies under the Rooney Rule. He's an available coach who's pretty good, particularly as an offensive mind.

Use my Common Sense.

He's white. Not according to the Rooney Rule.

That's not true.

Now he's being a sincely not. Honestly, Dan, be careful.

That's more racist than what you did yesterday.

Dan, be careful. That's really bad. Honestly, genuinely apologize. Seriously, you need to apologize. Genuinely apologize.

Quickly. His father is black.

Jack. He's not.

Finally.

I'm sorry. There you For both the comment and the confusion. The reporting that should have been national news is that you said that somebody wondered that, and that can't be possible. Not that somebody wondered it. It can't be possible that Mike McDaniel would qualify under the Rooney Rule for accurately being able to be something that helps with diversity for minorities because McDaniel is getting the interviews that used to go to the coaches who would complain, Why am I having to fill out a form about whether or not I'll work on Sundays? This is not a serious interview we're doing. Right.

And a bulletin, the Rooney Rule doesn't really work well. It's great in concept, but teams misuse it all the time. I'll give you a quick example. The Miami Dolphins interviewed their two Black candidates immediately before hiring Jeff Hathley. Okay, immediately before. Now, I'm not saying they They were token interviews, but the implication is there, and teams do that all the time. So if you're Mike McDaniel, you have twice as much chance of gaining interest to be interviewed if you also qualify under the Rooney Rule. It makes common sense. The common sense factor is all that my source said. And by the way, I heard that from another reporter who covers the dolphins full-time, not with the Miami Aero.

Oh, that double source.

Is that double sourced? Is that now double sourced? Because I think hearing it from another reporter doesn't make it double source unless that reporter has a source.

I'm just telling you that I had heard it before I approach the Dolphin executive.

I don't know if you understand the way journalism reporting goes, but when you have the information come from two different places, that makes it a legit report.

But it's not a report because I'm passing along a supposition.

You heard from League sources.

I heard from a Dolphin source that the suspicion is one of the reasons Mike McDaniel was so popular in interviews is that he also qualified under the Rooney Rule in addition to being a qualified candidate as a great offensive mind.

I am surprised that that has not yet become national news.

It was actually Pro Football Network reported it.

Pro Football Network.

Yeah, PFN.

Where is that?

It's just some website.

I don't know. Yeah, it is. I can confirm. It is some website. Thank you.

Okay, some website. That doesn't seem like great sourcing.

No, it is, but it is some website.

Yeah, if you have initials, You're legit. If you call yourself PFN, it means you're legit.

The big story of the day in sports is Bill Belichick not making the Hall of Fame, and a whole lot of people are angry about this. Do you know how hard it is to get Jimmy Johnson to be this angry on social media?

By the way, Pro Football Network has 1. 4 thousand followers on Twitter.

There you go. So it hasn't become national news yet. It's just a random website.

I'm with it is some website. There's nothing that he said.

I love how my dad took that as a victory.

Hello.

No, I'd rather it not be reported.

No, the 1. 4 thousand. You're like, yes, see?

What do you mean you'd rather it not be reported?

You reported it. I don't consider speaking in a conversation as reporting it.

You said a source told me. That's reporting. A source told me. A bigger show than Pro Football Network.

I get what he says, though. Don't you ever accidentally say something here that may be too transparent, and then someone seizes on it, aggregates it, and you're like, That's not what I meant, really. I wish you just skim past this one.

I'm surprised I have to explain this to Levatard, who used to be a journalist. When a source tells me the suspicion within the Dolphins or within this source Go on. Is that this may have been a factor. Not that it was, because there's no way to prove it was a factor. If you ask the Miami Dolphins or any team, Hey, did you really seriously consider these two Black candidates, or was it a Rooney Rule thing? You're not going to get a truthful answer in all cases. So when the Dolphins suspect that Mike McDaniel got more interviews, probably than was imagined, maybe it was the fact that he also qualified under the Rooney Rule.

Okay, but what you're reporting is news. It's surprising to me that you don't understand that it's news when you report it from a source.

If someone in the Dolphins organization thinks, obviously it's not provable. If someone in the Dolphins organization thinks that that's what happened there, that's news.

Members of the Heat organization thought that LeBron quit in the last finals before he left for Cleveland. That's news.

If they think he did, yeah.

They got very mad at Dan for saying that. Hugely pissed.

As they should have. I wouldn't want that out.

But that's news. When people inside an organization that you're lending your credibility to their credibility, I'm surprised that we have to explain any of this to you as the reporter on this. Anyway, moving Coming on to the Belichick story.

It's all the fault of DEI. You guys are playing tennis. I'm surprised I have to explain this to you. No, I'm surprised. No, I'm surprised. I have to explain this to you.

Why is anybody paying attention to who you say?

He's a surprise back here.

More surprised. He's that bad at reporting news over the years because he's been giving it. No, he doesn't do news. That wasn't news. That was conjecture. He doesn't do news. He does columns. He's not in the information business.

Mike is exactly right. What I reported was conjecture, not news. If it's news, I'm going to either I'm going to write it in the Harold or I'm going to tell one of our Dolphin guys.

Or put it on your pod.

Or say it on... No, I wouldn't even... I didn't think it was that. I didn't and don't think it's a big deal. Okay? What we discussed yesterday.

The conjecture is the news, though.

Now, you're Well, he got a right color.

I don't think it's a big deal.

Here's how you hedge your bets. Say, They believe it might have been a contributing factor.

That's exactly right.

But that's not what you said. That is what I said.

That's what he's saying now.

All right, moving on.

Please.

Jimmy Johnson Listen, says angrily of the Bill Belichick thing on Twitter. This is just wrong. Number two winning all time. More Super Bowl than anyone. Unimaginable number of division championships. Lots of small jealous voters. I would like to know the names of the assholes who did not vote for him. They are too cowardly to identify themselves. Please, if you did not vote for Bill Belichick, identify yourself. Many explanation points, probably too much of a coward. Hide behind your secret ballot, and then secret ballot is capitalized. Is there anyone arguing the other side of this? Have you guys heard someone take the position, I understand why it is Bill Belichick is not in the Hall of Fame on the first ballot.

Look to your left.

Calls come from inside the house.

Well, but Bill Polian is... It's being reported that Bill Polian is the one with the bias here and also the integrity of saying, Cheater, cheater, that's the It's the reason that I don't have my baseball Hall of Fame vote. It's the reason that Greg Cody is so comfortable moralizing about this person's a first ballot Hall of Famer, but this person's not a first ballot Hall of Famer because it's not a museum. It's a home of morals.

Why didn't you finish the riddle? Cheater, cheater.

I don't know the rest. Pumpkin Eater.

Dan, Bill Pauling used the Cheeter, Cheeter, Pumpkin Eater defense, please. What does he know, by the way? What does Bill Pauling know, Dan?

He's a six-time executive of the year.

He got lucky with Peyton Manning.

But six-time executive of the year.

Yeah, but he did something more racist than you, and that's tough. That's tough. Wow. Mike McDaniel has been here for three years as a mixed-race man.

How is Bill Belichick doing something? How is Bill Polian doing something more racist than what I did? With a little more Jackson thing.

Be a wide receiver. Remember that? I'll let Zaz cook. The people that are caping up for him not being a first ballot Hall of Famer, universally, are fans of other teams in the division. I've seen the list of first ballot head coaches. They all appear worthy.

If you're all the people better than Belichick.

If Bill Belichick isn't what a first ballot head coach looks like, I don't know what the hell they're doing.

He's done without The loser before, Katie. Loser after, Katie's a loser at UNC. You want to talk about coaching your way out of the Hall of Fame. See what happened in UNC? See what happened at the end of his time in New England?

Okay, let's go to some more credible sources on this subject that are slightly less biased than Dolphin fan, Jonathan Zaslow. I like it. Okay, we gathered that you're enjoying Bill Belichick's- Committee got it right. Did they? Okay, I don't think that many people believe that the committee got it right, but the parts that I want to parse with you guys is we obviously don't know football a fraction of the way that Bill Polian does. We cannot assess how the guards played in the game that we just watched over the weekend that decided everything. Nobody here understands, even after Ted Wells did that $5 million report, what it is that the deflate gate advantage would or wouldn't be. But clearly, Bill Paulian thinks that it's what toppled Peyton Manning. Bill Paulian thinks that whatever cheating that Bill Belichick did is enough to... I don't think this is just pettiness with rivalry, do you? I'm assuming that he's not guilty of simply saying, I'm a small human being. I recognize that he's a Hall of Famer. I assume- First ballot. That he is applying a moral standard to this. No cheaters in my Hall of Fame. Am I wrong to assume that he feels like he knows how much of an advantage the cheating gave Bill Belichick to therefore make him a Hall of Famer.

Barry Bonds isn't in the Hall of Fame because everyone thinks he cheated. It's obvious that Barry Bonds is the best player to ever live top five if you want to argue about it, statistically, even without Without the steroids. We've given the stat before. It's one of the most amazing in sports. If you take away all of the numbers from all of his MVP seasons, he still has 400 home runs and 400 stolen bases, and no other player has done that. He's not in the Hall of Fame because everyone thinks he cheated. Now, Bill Belichick is not a first ballot Hall of Famer because blank. The point is Bill Paulian wants to make this moment, Bill Belichick in the Hall of Fame, about the cheating, correct?

Well, hold on a second. Paulian Polian is flat out denying his involvement. This story came out that Polian is the one who's leading the charge that he should be punished because of Spygate. Then you had several reporters who got a hold of Polian last night, and Polian is saying it's flat out false. But then also you're getting this where Polian added he could not remember with 100% certainty if he voted for Belichick. How do you not remember?

How How do you not remember?

He said he was 95 % sure. How do you not remember? He couldn't remember when he voted Andrew Jones. What are we doing here?

Yeah, six years ago.

But he's denying it. He's denying that he was part of it.

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Don Levatard. Greg, how's your birthday going so far?

I invented it. It's going fantastic. My wife and I are staying home tonight. We're watching the debate on TV. We're going to do something special for dinner. It's a nice day for me so far.

Stugatz.

That sounds like not a super nice night, the debate. Old people love that shit.

Yeah. That's exactly right. Yeah. That's exactly right. Old people do love that shit. I'm old now. I can't deny it anymore.

This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugats.

This is petty BS. It's people with an ax to grind. Like, okay, I understand the Super Bowl tape that was burned in a fireplace of the alleged recorded practice and Deflategate. Deflategate, remember when Bill Belichick had that press conference, he put the onus on Tom braided. I don't think anybody is going to hold that against Tom braided. This is largely media, largely with an ax to grind against Bill Belichick, and it's unfortunate that he has to be punished by gatekeepers here. Is it unfortunate? Yeah, I do think it's unfortunate because I believe him to be the successful coach in the history of the sport. You want to say, what has he done without Tom braided? He won two Super Bowl's without Tom braided as a defensive coordinator, as a pro coach under Bill Parcells, one of those with Jeff Hostetler. He has quite the freaking resume, and it's BS that he's not first ballot.

These people are all capable of high school pettinesses, no matter how old they are. Bill Pauline is 83 years old. It's an age where you could forget if you voted for Bill Belichick.

For I know you couldn't.

You're not 83 yet. 83, I found with my parents who are both in that realm, you can absolutely, at 83, forget some very simple things with age.

Let me get this straight. The vote just happened. We're not asking Bill Polian to recall something from five, seven, eight years ago. The vote just happened. I'm with my dad on this. It's a really good point. You're telling me Bill Polian can't recall?

He's pretty sure.

He shouldn't be voting then.

Have you watched a Trump press conference? I also agree with that. He shouldn't be voting.

If he can't remember, if he can't go through a cognitive test of, did you vote for Bill Belichick 16 minutes ago?

Let's not do cognitive tests.

Jeremy, please. If you can't recall, if you did something 16 minutes ago, you should not be voting.

I agree. He's 95% sure he voted for Belichick.

I'm 95% sure I had a hamburger for dinner last night.

The place, though, that I land on this as we talk it out, because I do believe that no matter your age, especially among men, men, specifically, men with ego and sports, even more so. You can be high school petty into your '80s. And Jerry Jones, it's been reported, is keeping Bob Kraft out of the Hall of Fame. And I wouldn't be surprised if Bob Kraft, who made a 10-part documentary about how Bill Belichick wasn't responsible for all of those- You're really boiling that 10-part docuseries down.

I don't There are some people out there that would push back on that being the takeaway.

On the 10-part series? Yes. Oh, you think Bill Belichick enjoyed how he was chronicled in the 10-part series made by Kraft with Apple?

I did not see any of the 10 parts. I just know that there is people that buck up against that notion.

I have heard a very few of them. Maybe they are at the Pro Football Network. It seems pretty obvious that that was a hit job by Kraft because he had the means to do that to Belichick at a time we weren't soiling Belichick's legacy. It was fairly shocking to watch the truth told that way, and it was clear that Kraft was responsible. But it's been reported, Jerry Jones is keeping Bob Kraft out of the Hall of Fame. When the slews, the Pablo Torres of the world go sniffing around. If it's not Polian, if it's not Kraft, then who? There's no reason.

It could still be Polian. Polian could still vote for Bill Belichick and also be a respected voice in the room saying, Hey, just for your consideration, I don't want to be the only guy in the room that says this, but he did have the two cheating scandals, so do with that what you will.

By the way, we don't know the number, but there were at least 11 people who didn't vote Belichick It wasn't like it needs to be unanimous and polling until one. We don't know the actual number, but we know at least 11 people did not vote Belichick.

Is there any sane, reasonable human being without biases saying that that makes sense? Is there Can you give me a person publicly putting their voice without biases who has their sanity still saying that it makes sense in any world for Bill Belichick to not be a Hall of Famer? Can someone give me a name? No. So everyone who's saying, Ha, ha, ha, is somebody who is biased and they're just mad because they're from the AFC.

And Jimmy Johnson is right. The voters who voted against Belichick owe it to the league, to fans to name themselves, to raise their hand and say, Yep, I'm one of them, and here's why. That's why all ballots in every sport, all Hall of Fame ballots, should be made public. It shouldn't be. If baseball leaves it up to the voter whether or not to make your ballot public. And by the way, the Halls of Fame should not be moral Halls, and I hope you didn't suggest that I think that. If I thought that, I wouldn't have voted for Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens every year.

Originally, you didn't, though, right? I don't think you have since the beginning.

I didn't the first year I voted.

But you took a moral stand. You did that.

Okay, it's because, as I've said many times, I put a distinction on whether you're a first ballot Hall of Famer.

You took a moral stand. It wasn't because they weren't first ballot Hall of Famers, it's because you penalized them for your morally thinking they were less deserving a first ballot, not because of their merit or numbers,because of the morale.

And then voted for them.

And then voted for them. Yeah, but you changed your mind, but you said you've never done it, and you did do it the first time you got a vote.

It's semantist. It is semantist. I've explained this many times. The first ballot Hall of Famer is sacrosanct. I don't think Spygate is enough of a smudge to not vote for a guy who wants six Super Bowl.

Greg, that's what they just did here. They just did the same thing you did with your first vote of a Hall of Fame ballot.

I object to the... Let's look at them separately, not lump them together. I think there's no excuse, no reason plausible to not vote for Belichick on the first ballot. I don't have a Hall of Fame vote for Canton. If I did, I would have stood up. This would have been my entire speech on behalf of Bill Belichick's candidacy.

You just got it locked and loaded, ready to go?

He won six Super Bowl's. Thank you. Good night. And then the vote takes place. Everybody raises their hands. It's 50 to nothing. That should have been what happened.

No, but on the other side, somebody on the other side of these aren't museums. These are moral palaces. Somebody on the other side would say, I've got only one thing to say. He cheated many 10 times.

Okay, you know what's going to happen? Because a lot of voters do agree with me, you know he's going to make the Hall of Fame next year. I don't know that. In his second year of eligibility- The Andrew Jones effect. He will make the Hall of Fame. I don't think anybody would doubt that.

I doubt it. Look, I think everybody was shocked by this. So you're saying if I had asked yesterday on the show, do you guys believe there's a 1% chance that Bill Belichick is not inducted into the Hall of Fame or nominated tomorrow None of you would have said there was a 1% chance of that happening. And look, it just happened.

I might have raised my hand behind 1% because Spygate is a real thing. It's not enough for me to have not voted for him. But Spygate, it He lost the team a first-round draft pick. The team was fined $500,000. Belichick personally was fined $250,000. Deflategate was not a big deal, in my opinion. Spygate was. So the question is, how big a deal was it?

Well, it had to have been a big deal to Flakey. He got suspended multiple times. It had to have been a big deal.

Okay. I'm speaking about my opinion.

But if you take those seasons away, he still has a first ballot Hall of Fame resume, and it seems as though people just want to check Bill Belichick's ego. I feel like he hasn't had his ego checked enough over these last two years.

I know what we do here. We print out the ballot. That ballot that was voted on a few weeks ago with Belichick on it, we give it to my dad. He votes for who he would vote for, and at the end of the show, we see if he remembers.

Fine. I accept that challenge.

All right, let's do that. Put it on the poll. What was it? Two weeks ago that the vote was? Yes. Put it on the poll at Lebitard Show. Can every 83-year-old be expected to remember how he or she voted two weeks ago at Lebitard Show?

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Dan Levatard.

This guy comes in as the next Wayne Gretsky. His nicknames include the Chosen One and McJeezus. He's a great player. He scores a lot of goals. He scores a ton of assists, but it hasn't translated to making Edmonton a powerhouse in the league. They're in the final.

Stugatz. What's your nickname for him?

Mcoverrated. This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugats.

How did it get out?

Because the guys who voted, the Results are not supposed to come out yet. And the guys who voted were just finding out last night from whoever, I think it was Don Van Nade, right? Whoever came out or Seth Wickersham, who came out with the report that they didn't get in. You could probably narrow it down to who had that information and leaked it, right?

Oh, but it's got to be shocking information. Whoever's been holding on to that has probably known that they have this enormous bit of news since they've had it, because I don't even know. Cody, of course, after you're staring at a at the sea and what emerges from the ocean is a spaceship that spits aliens at you, Cody's there to say, Yeah, I knew that was going to happen, that I would have told you there was a 1% chance of that happening. So he's here to tell you that Belichick, that he's not shocked by this. But I really don't feel like anybody was thinking that there was the possibility that Bill Belichick, under any circumstances, would not immediately be a Hall of Famer as soon as he qualified. I didn't think that today or this conversation was a reasonable It's an inevitable possibility.

Okay, once again, you're putting words in my mouth. If I say I would have said yes to a 1% chance, what that means is I am 99% shocked. I am 99% shocked. When I'm saying there's a 1% chance, It doesn't surprise me in the least that a Bill Polian, a Robert Kraft may have called in a few chips, a few favors- With reporters, right?

Because it's mostly reporters. It's mostly reporters. It's not all reporters. It's 50 people.

Well, clearly, you got Polian in there.

It's 50 people. I don't know. Just so that... Let me frame this correctly. It's mostly former NFL media reporters. It includes Tony Dungy and Bill Polian, but not every owner. Just so you know, it's 50 people, largely its former reporter.

That's a small electorate. The baseball electorate is 450 people. When you only have 50 people, in my opinion, you're more subject to collusion among the voters.

But, Greg, though, the thing that Zaz is saying about 11, that's insane to me.

It's a lot of people.

You need 80%, right?

It's 20% of the people are sitting here telling you Bill Belichick's not a Hall of Famer. At least that. In what world? First ballot, Not a first ballot Hall of Famer. In what world?

And that, to me, says collusion. Listen, if you have 11 people who did not vote for a six-time Super Bowl winner, that suggests collusion to me. That suggests that voters got together before They gave a vote and said, You know what? Let's keep them out. Here's what else is interesting to me in this. The vote is to be announced February fifth. The news leaks and there is outrage, and the Pro Football Hall of Fame looks embarrassed and should be. Will they take another vote on this? Will they announce Belichick February fifth as a Hall of Famer and then claimed that the report was false? I think that's a possibility.

Will they revoke completely?

You think this is hanging Chad's in Hall of Fame?

I think that's a possibility.

You You think this is outrageous enough that they will do a cover up in order to- A recall.

Journalists, fellow journalists? I think there's a possibility. I wouldn't predict it's going to happen. I wouldn't bet that it's going to happen.

A 1% possibility. You'd be 99% shot.

I think there's a 5% possibility.

This is being revealed on February fifth. That's when it comes out. What an embarrassing day for the NFL. No one's going to be talking about that when everyone's talking about Yana's to the heat. February fifth, that's the NBA Trade Deadline.

Thank you for finally bringing basketball up. No one's going to care. Jesus.

My God. Do me the favor, Jeremy, get the hell out of here and go to work.

I agree.

Go to work on an NBA Trade Board here so you can finally do something that you want to do, and I can get to you on NBA Trade Conversation, because I know Mike wants to get to the University of Miami stuff, too, because they're going to be loaded again because they're whining and dining the best players that Duke has after just stealing them at Prime 112 with Eedra and James. But the things that are happening here with Belichick over the last six years are stupifying. I'd like our guest bookers to go after a Hall of Fame voter that can give me some insight into this, into what was happening in the room, because in the absence of information, people are going to go right to the conspiracies, and it's going to be Bob Kraft and Bill Polian who did this. But if it's 11 reporters, one of these Hall Fame voters, one of these 50 people, would be able to tell us what happened here. Let's go after one of those people and see if we can get slightly more information about this within the next couple of days. Before I get to the dolphins, And Jeff Hathley saying the dolphins will not be soft as long as he's in charge.

I'll get to that sound in a second. Mike Ryan yesterday, obviously, to me, got carried away when he compares what's happening with to Kurt Flood, just because Kurt Flood, to me, represents as a name. I don't even know, actually, if Kurt Flood was that good of a baseball player or many of his stats. He was okay. But Kurt Flood represents to me a symbol of commerce and business that rings and echoes for 50 years because people know that name of a '70s baseball player because he changed the economics of the game.

May I walk it back then? I thought that may Maybe the nation's second leading passer, an ACC champion, going to another ACC school, might be a tipping point on collective bargaining, in which you can invoke Kurt Flood because he was an agent of change. I just think the NCAA is still making so much money that they are willing to keep this thing going, which is shoddy and bad. Quite honestly, I want the sport to be collectively bargained. I think things like Mensa happening help force that hand. When Dabo is out there calling for collective bargaining, people should listen. That is a national champion head coach who is pretty old school. But I don't think the NCAA is going to budge because the gravy train is too good.

I appreciate actually what you did with that, because in real-time, we had a seismic move in the business of college football that the local team, look, no matter how you want to frame this, the ACC champion, a team that has won an ACC Championship game before Mario Cristobal has played in one, just had what I regard as its two best players stolen by a bigger batter program that has always been bigger and batter at football and is now bigger and batter at business. And that's Duke. Duke's got graduates with money. Duke just lost its two players. I like to talk to Manny Diaz about how he feels about this. And Miami is going to be loaded next year because they just took the two best players from the team that won the conference that Miami couldn't play in the Championship of.

Here's what Miami has on offense. Yes, they're losing Markel Bell, NCC, Mawanaa on the edges. Jackson Cantwell, who is being mentored by Joe Thomas, is a five-star recruit. I assume he's going to play right away, and you have to trust that Mirabal and company will coach up that offensive line. But at the star positions. Darian Mensa is the ACC's leading passer, second in the nation behind Drew Messermaker, right?

And doesn't turn the ball over very much either.

And a reigning ACC champion. You have the ACC's leading rusher in Mark Fletcher, who can also mitigate what's going on along that offensive line, which we assume might take a slight step back because he's the best pass-blocking back in the nation. And an absolute dog, as Tony has pointed out off mic. And not one but 2,000-yard receivers, one in Cooper Parkate, who's coming over from Duke, and Malakai Tony.

So they were at dinner last night. Malakai Tony was at Prime 112 with Edgar and James, and the rest of this recruiting class that fell out of the sky because it's a much easier way to scout if you can just go to the teams in your conference and be like, Well, they're pretty good. I'd like that guy, and I'd like that guy.

You're making that seem a lot easier than it actually is. Credit to the staff. That's like, These are the guys that we want. We're going to collaborate. We're going to make ourselves super appealing to these guys, and we're going to get it done. And it's going to be messy. Not everybody has a stomach for it. Miami does.

We saw this when he was here a couple of weeks ago, too, and I certainly had not seen him in a very long time. I love that Ejren James is like this elder statesman for the hurricanes now. It's so cool.

Yeah, I'm not even sure he went with the caravan. They got a police escort from the campus to Prime 112. He might have just been at Prime 112, which is a possibility. I saw all the videos. Yeah, the U sign sign sign sign sign sign sign sign This is a player that looks small on the field.

He's a growing boy. He's young. He's going to get bigger.

How do you swing a police escort to a restaurant?

I'm just curious. It's a big professional franchise. You make one call. It's the University of Miami. Look, man, the connection that this school and what it did to raise generations of football loving Canes is super unusual. Not many teams have Hall of Famers like Edger and James, whining and dining the recruits or being mascots like Michael Irvin on the sideline. The connection here is strong. Let's hear Edger and James here at dinner with these people just saying, Look, we got a new squad. We got our quarterback, we got our receiver.

We got the lads. We're going to be back. We got the lads. We got Miles going to take good care of us.

You know you get free when you win. When you win, you get free. You know that, right?

Wait, we know the whole thing yet.

Miles is like, Whoa.

Good job by Miles getting in there.

That hoodie that Mince is wearing is over $1,000. Peter Reece looked it up on Canes Insight.

Let's go ahead, and if you would, please, just get the halfly sound for me here because he was asked by Peter Schrager about the Miami Dolphins reputation of being soft. Oh, I aird. You know what? That was portal talk, and we have new imaging for the portal talk, and we didn't play the new imaging for the portal talk.

There is.

Whenever we're talking portal, we start talking. I feel like I'm in a portal right now.

We went to the very end of it.

Portal. I thought it might be distracting the first time. I thought it needed a little introduction as opposed to just this falling out of the sky.

So that is just Portally. Oh, it is Portally. It is Portally. It is Portally. It's good.

If you're not sure, I'll tell you in a second.

Portal.

I think Miami is going to be good. I think they're going to be pretty good. Pretty fun to watch, too. I've been watching so much Mensa tape. He's pretty good. Me, too.

I actually have, too. You got four minutes. You can just go on YouTube now. Highlights, Mensa, boom. It's a minute clip.

I don't want to be surprised.

If you're a Duke football fan, you're wondering what the hell is going on in college football.

And you turn around to six of your friends, They did us dirty.

We still have basketball. That's where we took the boosers from them. That's right.

That is true. That's where the settlement money is going to. Their basketball team. You got us there. That's not right. Stop. Kids decided they didn't want to go to that school anymore. I have every right because they're not employees.

Before we get to the Halfley Sound, though, can you guys put up our new imaging on all of the heads, the four heads, the four of the four heads who are running the dolphins now so that we can have new imaging for Dolphin Talk that is video instead of audio? Because we've got some substantive foreheads running the dolphins, and one of them is saying, Zazlo, the head of the dolphins is now saying, You know why we're not going to be soft? Because of me. I'm going to make sure that we're not soft. 'Ll play that sound for you next.