This is the Don Levitt Show with the Stugatz Podcast.
Do you guys believe that the nation at large cares about what's happening at CBS? Uh, it's an American institution, one of the original three networks. Uh, you have just total chaos going on there where yesterday Scott Pelley is fired, 60 Minutes has been disgraced, the, the whole thing, one of the great journalistic entities of all time, one of the great television shows of all times. How, how long has 60 Minutes been on the air? Scott Pelley is sitting there trying to defend one of the great journalistic institutions of all time, one of the great television programs of all time. He's trying to defend its nobility. It's true. He's trying to protect it from the creeping that comes from corporate that infects editorial content when you want those two things to be separate. And he's getting trampled by everything happening with our government and CBS.
Does anyone I thought you were gonna go in the direction of Russell Wilson joining CBS.
57 years off the top of my dome for 60 Minutes.
Does anyone care? Can I get anyone?
We care. People who are very online care. People who really care about politics care. However, there are metrics that suggest a huge majority in this country avoid the news altogether.
But CBS— and maybe you have to be older like me to appreciate this— CBS was the network of Walter Cronkite. In the 1960s and '70s, for a quarter of a century in this country, the most trusted man in America was Walter Cronkite. I mean, that was certifiable. The polls indicated that. So that's the network that is now doing what we're seeing it do.
Well, let's bring Jessica in here to talk about this and other things. Uh, Jessica, what are your thoughts? Because this— the flames keep rising on everything happening at CBS. For those of you not familiar with some of the details, uh, they need— in order to make this merger go through, they need government support. You see that the press is under attack from every angle. And in terms of network news, whether it's Jimmy Kimmel or this, these are the seismic things that do get attention. What did you make of what happened at CBS yesterday, and what do you make of what's happening at 60 Minutes in general, Jess?
I do think people care, Dan, because even though fewer people watch the news and watch television now than historically, this is still one of the top-rated news broadcasts on TV. It consistently is one of the highest-rated news programs that exists. And it's an iconic, it's a staple of the news. It's a staple of your Sunday afternoon when you're done watching a golf tournament or a football game. You hear the tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. And the journalists who are on 60 Minutes are people that even if you aren't a news junkie, you know who Scott Pelley is, you know who Leslie Stahl is, you know who these people are. And yeah, what's happening is pretty horrifying even Even if maybe fewer people care than 20 years ago, I think a lot of people still do really care because this is such an iconic brand in news. And what happened yesterday, Scott Pelley being fired and the shakeup with the executive, um, executive producer and executive editor roles a few weeks ago, and a person, Nick Bilton, who doesn't have any experience in network television being promoted to oversee like one of the most prestigious journalism jobs, uh, in television with no television experience, like I said, is pretty shocking, even amid all the changes at CBS News and hiring someone at CBS News and Barry Weiss who doesn't have any journalism experience either.
That's kind of where this whole thing started. Um, yeah, I mean, it's pretty, pretty horrifying still, Dan. And like, the— these news broadcasts have reputations, and yes, they don't always get everything 100% right, and There's missteps here and there, but they trade on their reputation. And so when the reputation gets damaged and you have Scott Pelley writing this long rebuke of what's— what all the changes have been over the last few weeks, then I don't know how you ever get that reputation back. And someday this current administration may not be in office and that will still just be gone because of what's happened over the last few months.
Yeah, that's the part that's interesting to me because like Scott Pelley totally lit them up in his— you know, first the letter got leaked, his termination letter, and then he sent out a message as to what's happening there, and he lit them up, and he is accusing them of bowing down to this administration, and that's where their direction is, to make sure you appease them. And I know CBS News is always supposed to be a completely separate entity from CBS as a whole. Is there any— because Jess mentions there, yeah, like, this administration, they're not going to be around forever, they're only going to be around for a couple more years. Like, is there any sign or any idea that they would, you know, do the news that— the way that they've always done it once the merger goes through?
There are all sorts of things happening throughout the media that I believe people aren't noticing because you need corporations to stand for something and they don't like to stand for anything. So as far as I can tell, ESPN is employing Don Van Natta to not investigate too vigorously much of anything that can be problematic for any of their league partners. That's over what we have in sports. And what you have happening here, and I wonder what the damage of this is. Greg Cody just mentioned Cronkite as someone you trust. As everything starts changing and everyone, Jessica, becomes a little more like me being fooled by the shark in the water on the internet because AI is making everything too confusing. What is the value of people and a thing you can trust in the modern age? 60 Minutes, more than anything I can think of, on television is a thing I can trust, even though sometimes you get things wrong. They are meticulous about making sure that difficult subject matter they get right. So what is the value of that in the modern age? Simply something that you trust more than the average thing bringing you information.
I mean, the, the value is immense because there are so many places you can get incorrect information now, more places than you can get correct information. So if you have something that you trust there's people looking at this, there's people vetting this, there's editors who— this is their full-time job, is to verify the information and to— for these journalists to seek the truth as best as they know it and tell it to their audience, then yeah, if that gets eroded, um, it's an incredible loss for everyone. Even if you aren't someone who consumes it, um, the people who do bad things in the world are emboldened to do worse things because they know they won't get caught if there's no one looking into them.
This has to do with what's happening at CBS News, and when I read it, it sort of warmed my heart a little bit. A student reporter named Santiago Campos just won the Mike Wallace Memorial Scholarship at the News Emmy Awards. And in accepting the award, he said, "While I want to thank CBS News for funding this generous gift toward my education, I want to also acknowledge how the recent direction of the outlet stains the legacy of Mike Wallace, the namesake of this scholarship." So I think even people in their 20s are appreciating what's going on and the gravity of it.
Oh, but one of the things happening though, Jessica's talking about right and wrong, and she's not doing that morally, she's just doing it factually. She's saying the importance of getting things right as opposed to wrong. But I think it's larger than that. That anyone can do. What 60 Minutes did is they were meticulous about being fair. They were trying to be objective. That's not right, and that's not correct and incorrect. That's the amount of vetting that that goes into how do we report this most objectively and most fairly, given that humans generally don't get to objective. Like, that's not real. It's an illusion. Objectivity is a total illusion. We all have our biases. But what they were doing, more than right and wrong, and what they are doing and what's being contaminated, is the fair. They're baking the bias into the corporation so that it affects everything beneath it. And I guess that's what I'm asking you. Do you care about fairness? Do you care about one side gets to fight unfair while the other side is trying to cling to fair, and everything happening about the decay all around us makes it so that the fair gets contaminated?
Yes.
No, I, I mean, I totally agree. It used to be you assumed fairness out of all the major journalism outlets. And then you had Fox over here on the right, and then you had MSNBC over here on the left, and all of a sudden became harder to tell what was fair and what was partial. And now that's crumbling.
My question to you, I guess, is, is anyone even aspiring to it anymore? Like, if the audience doesn't care about fair, who's going to cling to, I want to make this fair? Like, why? If everything's against it, if it's not just the government but it's also your corporation, what Scott Pelley is fighting for— imagine what it takes, okay, for Scott Pelley to care about what I'm talking about so much that he's fighting everyone and changing his career path when what he wants to be doing is be on 60 Minutes because he knows it's the most prestigious of the fairnesses.
Jess? Yeah, I mean, I think if you're making a binary between right and wrong. I think fairness is what's correct. Like, that's what's right to do when you're in the news business. And for a long time, the networks were supposed to be the places where that was baked into the requirements of what they did. And so, yeah, you have the introduction of cable news, like Greg mentioned, and all these other outlets that are injecting more opinion and analysis and personality into what some other, you know, some piece of reporting or something that's happening. But you would still have, you know, your New York Times or your 60 Minutes or legitimate news outlets that were demarcated between personality and analysis and opinion and just basic reporting. But if you're in the business of making money, then reporting is something that a lot of people, especially governments, don't want you to do because it gets in the way of making money. And so if you're someone who buys a news brand or merges a news brand or whatever, is overseeing one, and your objective is just to make money at all costs, then doing stuff that pisses off a president or another government is a conflict.
And if you're a journalist, you understand that, yeah, there are conflicts, but the basic, uh, thing that should fight back against that conflict is what the truth is. So yes, Dan, I mean, I think, I think fairness is a moral objective, just like correctness, or just like, you know, being right or doing what's right. I think those things all kind of tie hand in hand in the journalism profession.
The Peli letter had a lot in it. It was very long. He's obviously very passionate, and I'm guessing he's under stress with the all of it because it's never easy to be doing this kind of freedom fighting. But here he writes, for my part, new management has instructed me to inject falsehoods and bias into a politically sensitive story. I've been told to include assertions that are unverified. To date, in every case, I have managed to ignore these instructions or refuse them. Recently, politicians have been invited to choose correspondents for interviews on the broadcast. I don't think anyone understands how hard it is to fight for this stuff when your own employer doesn't back you. Is part of— is part of making you feel like I've got to fight against the people who are supposed to be my backing because I can't fight the president of the United States and the government by myself. I have to have something that supports the things that we're supposed to be about. And everything that happens here is just the beginning of how it is that it gets corrosive because they're just running off all of the people who want to do this.
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Don Libertad.
Greg, how's your birthday going so far?
I invented it. It's going fantastic. My wife and I are staying home tonight. We're watching the debate on TV. We're gonna do something special for today. It's a nice day for me so far.
Stugatz!
That sounds like a not a super nice night.
The debate?
Old people love that shit.
Yeah.
That's exactly right.
Yeah.
That's exactly right. Old people do love that shit. And I'm old now. I can't deny it anymore.
Now, this is the Don Levitar Show with the Stugatz.
Let's get to the Knicks and New York because she's in New York, and I wanted to just find out, your fiancé must be a lunatic right now. Have you ever seen what he's presently enduring as a Knicks fan? I shouldn't say enduring, presently feeling as a Knicks fan.
Today is like his Christmas because there haven't been any games left yet. So we don't know how the Knicks are going to perform. Dan, he put on his little Knicks windbreaker this morning and was talking on the elevator with other Knicks fans and everyone's like, oh, let's go Knicks. People in the coffee shop were like doing like a thumbs up to each other, like, oh, let's go Knicks. It's very cute. It's, it's adorable. I'm, I'm super excited. I mean, the city is definitely buzzing right now. Unfortunately, I did listen to Sam Morrill yesterday, which kind of made me want to root for the Spurs. But I am really pumped for how how just alive everything is going to feel over these next couple of weeks in New York City. God willing, next couple of weeks.
Does Sam have that effect on everybody?
Yeah.
They make you root against New York. Yeah. Even though her fiancé—
I thought that was kind of the point of bringing him on. Yeah. Because like none of you guys are like New York fans.
It would break her heart.
It is.
It would be. It would be something that would break her fiancé's heart. She's going to have— Jessica's life is going to be tougher if they lose that series. It's going to be— she's going to have an unhappy, a broken person around her because he— does he care about anything the way he cares about this in sports or in life?
No. I mean, he went to a school that doesn't even have college football, so no. I mean, I would include life. I would say— I mean, maybe fishing.
What about you?
I think he cares about fishing. What? No, definitely not. That's ridiculous.
What's over your left shoulder there? What's over your left? What do we have there?
Speaking of sports, New York sports. This was the giveaway at the Mets game last Friday night.
It's a good giveaway.
It's great.
Bobby Valentine disguise night.
He came out with a mustache. He threw the first pitch. He came out with Lee Mazzilli. And it was great that he embraced that. It legitimately— that guy has had a great managing career. And it's legitimately the thing I first associate with him is that he wore a fake mustache.
Amazing.
In the dugout after he'd been ejected.
I love going to sporting events with my sister because she's kind of like an alien. Like, she doesn't know anything about sports, so everything she learns about sports is like the first thing she's ever heard about them in her life. So we got to the ballpark and they were handing these out, and she was just like, what, what is this? I don't understand this. And then I was like, I got to show her the video. And she's like, so he just came back with a mustache? And I was like, yep, but you don't get it, it's really funny. She— I think she slightly appreciated it. But then to top it off, Dan, I got to see Mr. and Mrs. Met, and first of all, Mrs. Met was looking good. Okay, she was looking really good.
She always does.
But second of all, Mr. Met had on the Bobby— like, they did a giant mustache and sunglasses for Mr. Met, which I love. I think he looks great. Kind of into the mustache.
Looks better. Looks Latin. Looks a little bit Latin.
Looks cuckish.
Am I right, Tess?
Yo, put it on the poll at Labattar Show. Are you attracted to Mrs. Met? Yes or no? 100% is going to be the answer. How did this picture— come to be.
Can we do another poll question? Should Mr. Met always wear the mustache and sunglasses? Yeah, he looks better. Dan, I got to sit in some very fancy seats because it was someone's birthday. I got invited, I don't know, but they came and visited and there was a cannoli cart. How happy to make your own cannoli cart. I just, I was like, can you just put some filling on a plate? And I ate it with a fork. It was delicious.
So that you eat with a fork.
Actually, yeah, that's a good point. I mean, I couldn't use my fingers. It was in a ballpark. That's kind of gross.
How did it come to be that that photo was taken with Mr. and Mrs. Met?
They came to see me. They knew I was there. They knew I wanted to meet them. They were like, all right, we'll make a little visit where Jess is sitting. I was thinking maybe I could do like, you know, I heard about this the night before, maybe like a speed Amazon Texas A&M Aggies hat, but it wasn't going to get there in time.
I obviously remember.
I'll just be myself.
I obviously remember Bobby Valentine coming back into the dugout and wearing the mustache and the glasses. What was then the fallout from that? Did he get thrown out again? Did Major League Baseball do anything?
They caught him, yes. They caught him and then punished him.
I'd like to think he got away with it.
Same.
No, no.
You gotta give him credit for that.
Wait a minute, you guys thought that disguise worked and then it was something—
He just finished the rest of the game in the dugout.
So I just never wanted to follow the story to its end. I just wanted to assume he got away with it.
Well, yeah, no, it's more about like if the the umpire throws him out, I don't think the umpire ever expects him to— oh, let me, let me peer into the dugout and make sure he didn't return.
Here's the thing, guys. The video that is on the MLB YouTube channel ends with him in the dugout with the mustache and the sunglasses. So that's to me where the story ends, is he— him standing there. Because this was 1999. I didn't watch this game live. All I have now are the official documented YouTube videos on the MLB YouTube channel.
I think he got away.
That's the story to me. I think he got away with it.
I think he got away with it.
My truth. That's my world that I'm living in, Dan.
That's fine, you guys can keep your truth, but I'm going to guess without any memory of this that we're going to laugh at how laughable the consequences were. I'm going to guess that this was so worth it for Bobby Valentine.
$5,000 fine.
That's what you're guessing?
Yeah, that would be my guess.
Yeah, back then, that would be a lot of money.
No, that's— no, wait a minute, for that—
25 years ago!
Greg, for that penalty of they've thrown you out of the game and you've disrespected and disregarded the authority so much that you put on a terrible mustache and go back into the dugout and just refuse the ejection. You think that $5,000 fine— it's a—
that's what I'm going with.
That's all it's worth.
Well, it's a good initial search. It's $5,000 on the money. 2 games. 2 games suspension. $5,000.
2-game suspension. That's I don't know about that.
Also, this game was exactly one week before the New York Knicks ended— or began their finals in 1999. It was June 9th, 1999, and then June 16th, Game 1.
Two games, $5,000 is all he got for— you would agree that that's not enough, right?
What's the precedent? Plenty. It's plenty.
You gotta get right.
That's true.
Ingenuity. You know, give him credit for that. Are you kidding me?
How about the umpire get control of his game?
I mean, Bud Selig had to make something up that had never happened before.
What?
Yeah, it's not like it's going to stop anyone from doing it again because it's not—
he wore a mustache.
I'm picturing how did the broadcasters handle that? You know, the broadcasters are looking at the dugout going, guy looks a little like Bobby Valentine.
Well, famously, the cameras caught him and they had fun with it.
Yeah. That is what happened. That's in the YouTube video. Greg, I have two catchphrases for you from my dad. Wow. He wants you to tell these to Boog or something. I don't know.
I don't— What are they?
One is, one is, you ready? Yeah.
Yes sirree, Bob. Yes sirree, Bob. That's old school.
Okay. Thoughts? Okay. We like it. We don't like it.
I've heard of it. It's something that's been said in the past. I've never said it.
It's not mine.
What is this, the Shark Tank for catchphrases?
I mean, yes or no?
Yeah, I mean, that's what I thought it was for actually though. Yes or no?
Right, there you go.
Okay, I got another one for you. Better than a sharp stick in the eye.
I like that.
Okay, that's in the same category. I can work with this. Yeah, that's in the same category as, uh, dumber than a box of, you know, rocks.
You'd be bad at Shark Tank. You either got to be in on it or out.
You can tell me they suck, they're not mine.
Um, He was being polite. He was being— he was trying to be nice there. Like, he, he just—
when, when someone looks at what you're suggesting and goes, okay, okay, yes sirree, Bob, I reject. What's the second one again?
Better than a sharp stick in the eye.
I'm gonna give that a mild thumbs up.
A mild thumbs up.
Very good. That would— if I increase— and this is just a rumor— if I increase my catchphrase countdown from 60 to 75, sharper than a stick in the eye, maybe stick in the eye, maybe 75.
But it doesn't seem like it's very memorable to you because you've forgotten it now twice.
Yeah, that's true.
I want a 25% stake in your catchphrase. A mild thumbs up is the most tepid endorsement.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Imagine Mr.
Wonderful. You're being polite though. Tell her what you think. Like, what do you— what a mild thumbs up is not. It's not support.
No, I mean, I've heard of yes sir, eh Bob. That's something my dad might have said, or my mother more like it. And sharper than a stick in the eye is in that category. Like I mentioned, it's, you know, tell your dad— say it right once— work a little harder. What, sharper than a stick in the eye?
What does this say?
Not it.
What is this saying? A mild—
4 times now.
Okay, I'm here to take a quiz. Yeah, he's— this is when he starts to peter out if the show hasn't come to him for 45 minutes after a couple straight— hey, that's what I'm talking about, man!
I already told you about— that's my phrase.
Not anymore, buddy.
Not anymore.
Hey, that's what I'm talking about.
Doesn't make it right. Uh, Zazz, uh, what level of disrespect, Jessica, would you say it is that 17th on Greg Cody's catchphrase list is what he just sang? And that has been one of Zazz's signature phrases not sung for about 20 years, and Cody not only didn't know that Cody also stole it, made it a song, and says it's now him.
Can you tell— can you, can you sing it for me again?
Yeah, mine is— and, and the first syllable in this is key— hey, that's what I'm talking about. And what's yours?
And Zazz's—
that's what I'm talking about.
See, those are totally different. I agree with Greg.
Sorry.
Yeah, I mean, Greg always wins. Not even spiritually similar at all.
Exactly the same words. All he did was put a hey in front of it.
I sing mine.
That's what I'm talking about.
You grunt yours, I sing mine. Put a little melody into it.
Yeah, they're different. I'm sorry, Zazz.
I'm trying to sing it. Try singing it.
Wait, Zazz, did you like the finale of Euphoria?
I've never seen that show. Do you know what happened though?
I did hear what happened. Yeah, tragic death. Yeah, pretty sad.
All right, whatever.
Yeah, I haven't seen it either.
Uh, should Brendan Sorsby play college football again?
Uh, wait, can you say that again? Should Brendan Sorsby play college football again? Is that what you said? Yep. Okay, um, probably not. And I, I feel, I feel bad saying that because I feel like he probably does have serious addiction and illness and needed treatment for it. But I, I listened and read to— or didn't listen, but I read to the arguments that were being made to get the injunction to allow him to play next year for Texas Tech. I'm just not sure, man. It just seems like you're putting a bunch of bets, thousands of bets, on professional and college games, including bets on your own team. Even though you weren't playing, you were still on the roster. And you only went to treatment because you knew you were going to get caught. Like, I guess I'd be more sympathetic if he volunteered himself to treatment not knowing he was going to get caught, and it was like, hey, I have a problem and I know this might ruin my career, but I need, I need treatment, instead of like, uh-oh. Like, it seems like a PR move, which it might not be. I'm not, you know, I'm— like I said, probably needs it, but it just feels like, you did it.
You did thousands of bets, including on your own team. You probably shouldn't play. And the best part is, Dan, he could still play professional football, because like, the argument that this is going to irreparably harm him when a bunch of NFL teams are like, yeah, we could draft him.
I don't know, like, Jess, you think an NFL team's gonna give up a supplemental pick for him?
I don't know, but they could still sign him. I mean, he doesn't have to be drafted, I guess, right?
Well, no, he, he has to. He does have to be drafted. You know, he can't just— I'm a free agent now. That's why I'm saying supplemental draft. I, I imagine he enter a supplemental draft, and I don't think anyone's going to select him.
Yeah, I don't know, because you do have to— I mean, I understand there's like a bidding process and all of that. I don't think there's been a supplemental draft pick in like some—
somebody would, somebody would take him.
It's too valuable.
Like, that's exactly how you want to get your quarterback. He has damage.
I'm sorry, all you have to do is give up that round pick in the following draft. Brendan Sorsby had legit NFL prospects. He was weighing going into the NFL., and there were plenty of GMs that gave him a first-round grade. Like, we'll go, we'll go past the first round and second round perhaps, but that third round, teams are going to start thinking about it seriously. And then you get into later rounds and it's a guarantee.
Jessica, thank you. Check out her weekly Notre Dame podcast. What was that sound at the end? Uh, The Echoes with Mike.
You guys are changing my mind now.
It seems like— did we, did we change your mind? It's just, look, there's value at the quarterback position, and no matter what the stigma is, Deshaun Watson got a ton of money guaranteed. Like, if you can play that position, the The desperation is such that the morality evaporates.
Yeah, no, my mind changed back. Okay. Probably shouldn't play again.
Hey, that's what I'm talking about.
It feels good.
It's just, it's insulting every time you do it. Insulting me.
Get closer to the microphone, please.
Well, I'm mad, so. It's not fun when you're mad. I become unprofessional when I'm mad.
Bye, Jessica. Thank you. Good seeing you. Bye. Nice chatting with you. It was nice chatting with you. And I like that she had that mustache there available for us. You can't give me enough Bobby Valentine's mustache. Uh, I wanted to— $5,000. That's so little. 2 games and $5,000 for simply just saying to the umpire, I know you ejected me, I refuse your objection.
Seems very insubordinate.
I'm just following Dan's sliding scale of moralities when it comes to punitive measures in the MLB. Telling an opponent to suck your bleep, that's fine.
Didn't tell him. Didn't tell him.
Just—
he gestured.
Sign language?
Nope. Didn't tell him. So, all right.
Did not tell them.
My apologies, Dan. In fairness to you. So according to Dan Sliding's scale of MLB morality— his hips told him—
they don't lie.
Signaling to an opponent directly to suck your bleep, that's fine. But showing up in a goofy mustache, that wasn't punished enough?
For the record, I'd like everyone in sports to ignore the umpires and wear goofy mustaches. I'm surprised they surprised that baseball wasn't more indignant about what happens there, given how much people in charge like to have authority respected. For me, make it all circus clowns, put mustaches on everybody, have everybody doing the X across their crotch. But I'm surprised that baseball didn't have a— we'll call it a stiffer penalty.
That would have been the move. Now you look in the dugout and every Mets player and coach has a disguise on. Now you don't know who's who.
That's what they should have done.
Now Bobby, you're just like, it's like, I don't know.
They never would have known. That's what they should have done.
We had a lot of questions as to how many of these things you have lying around in your clubhouse? What is the purpose of this? It seems calculated.
You know, in horse racing, they DNA test every horse prior to a race to make sure that you're not subbing in a better horse who looks similar to this horse. True story.
That's an interesting fact, actually, because that is a good way to cheat.
I've also—
switcheroo.
I've often thought— I mentioned this actually last year, I don't remember what the context was— in football, you can take your guy who has been ejected for targeting, you could do it, put him in someone else's uniform, run him out on the field, and see if you can get away with it because they're wearing masks and they can be in a disguise. And while Well, some people might notice the running style is different. You can get one of your ejected-for-targeting players to wear a different uniform and the helmet, and some people might not know that your starting cornerback who was ejected for targeting is actually back in the game in somebody else's uniform.
Which college coach would do this?
I've thought about this. It cannot be a starter. It cannot be a star. Like, these teams prepare for these opponents. They, they, they would realize— Wait, why is Xavier Lucas wearing someone else's uniform?
Like, with the wide receiver who— the, the cornerback got thrown out of the game and the wide receivers lined up against him. Would he all of a sudden start pointing and yelling to the referee, that's, that's not him, that's not—
what if he was wearing a Bobby Valentine mustache? What if you actually committed to the bit and like had, had an assortment of things you were trying to do to make it look like that isn't the player that you think it was? I'm talking about all of it. I'm talking about a prosthetic. I'm talking about just somebody in makeup going for a long time to have their look entirely distorted. For example, the— on, on HBO Max, a lot of people are watching The Penguin and they have no idea that's Colin Farrell. I'm sure that actors are opposite Colin Farrell, or, you know, like extras who are coming in to do a couple of shoots, and they're like, what do you mean that's Colin Farrell? That can't be Colin Farrell. That doesn't look anything like Colin Farrell. You don't think that that's something that could possibly be gotten away with in college football and only in college football because you can't see their faces?
Who's Colin Farrell? I was thinking that. Actor, right?
Do you really not know who Colin Farrell is? Do you think you can't name a single Colin Farrell movie?
You just said The Penguin. Is that the name of the movie?
I don't even think by look, if we gave him like, who of these 5 people is Colin Farrell? I don't think he would have any clue.
Is he the guy who gained like 100 pounds for a role?
Well, a lot of people have done that.
Really? Name 2.
Brendan Fraser.
Okay, name another one.
Christian Bale.
Christian Bale. Name 3 more.
Wow, that is some impressive moving of the goalpost.
Russell Crowe, I believe. I think that just happened naturally.
Yeah, by accident.
Come on, what are we doing there? He worked hard.
Don Lebatard.
Mister, Mister Shirt, if I may say for a second. Miami, they were simulating the snap count the entire game and they were clapping at the line of scrimmage. And the only thing I want to see clapping are them cheeks on Mrs. Mack. In my face, Max Scher. All right, so that's one thing. Stugatz! They're a bunch of cheaters, Dan. And you know who should be cheating? Mrs. Met on Mr. Met. And he can watch if he wants.
This is the Dan Levatar Show with the Stugatz.
Juju is here now because, uh, we're doing the postgame to celebrate the World Cup, and we need a situation here with the World Cup where we're covering it a little bit better than we've been covering it because it's kind of a giant event.
A situation.
Thank you, South Florida.
Kind words. Appreciate it. Yeah. In this episode, Tom Bogert of The Athletic is going to help me preview the U.S. men's national team. And our good friend Chris Whittingham will join me later this week to preview the rest of the tournament.
If nothing else, watch it on YouTube to see that glorious mustache of Tom.
So Juju is here now instead of the postgame because we're going to update the polls. It felt like we had a lot of them today. Where are we, Juju? Thank you for joining us. Where are we on the poll updates?
Yes, sir. Do you trust Jason Bonetti's ability to be sultry? 53% of the audience says yes, they do.
Wow.
My boy. Should the waiter or waitress tell you when the gratuity is included? 92% of the audience says yes, they should. Did Nick Wright purposely read the wrong name at the Sports Emmy Awards? 94% of the audience says yes, he did. If you went to sleep with 4,000 followers and woke up with 4.7 million followers, what would be your first feeling, panic or delight? 83% of the audience says panic. Where does the finger start? Above the knuckle or beneath the knuckle?
This is big.
53% of the audience says beneath the knuckle.
Yeah.
If you rob 3 home runs in a game, but then a home run bounces off your forehead, are you then just an average total outfielder? 82% of the audience says yes. Are you attracted to Mrs. Metz? 64% of the audience says yes. Too long.
Last poll.
Last poll. Should Mr. Met always wear the sunglasses and mustache? 89% of the audience says yes. And those are your polls.
After the Knicks game tonight, Juju and Trista will be— and Tony will be up on YouTube at DLS Hoops, where LeBretard and Friends is found on YouTube. Follow that. And also we've got Roy and his crew is doing, uh, hockey watch-alongs after all of the games in the Stanley Cup Final, which we have not talked about enough today. Vegas, uh, one of the most ridiculous stories anywhere in sports.
They are absolutely lucky that Carolina did not score 4 goals on them in the first period. They survived that first period and then took over in the second period. Bad defense by Carolina in that second. And just to clarify, you will be watching the game live This is a live watch-along tomorrow. You can watch it on the Levittor YouTube page.
Yes. So, uh, Tony and Trista and Juju will show up after Knicks-Spurs, but Roy and his crew, Rose and Ethan and Dwork, they'll be watching the game live. And also in about 5 minutes, Morally Abhorrent returns. Uh, the soccer preview will be live on YouTube as well as part of our, uh, post-game show. Thank you, Juju. Appreciate the time, sir. You guys saw, right, that, uh, they They are now taking down all of the barricades, all of the prohibitions, all of the rules around Madison Square Garden tonight. The police presence, they're allowing that to be a watch party outside of Madison Square Garden.
I'm going to be there this weekend.
You're going to have in the streets, though. Yeah, I'm going to be there tomorrow, actually, but not for the game. I have to go up there for something Pablo related. I don't know if it's a secret what Pablo is doing. Me too. I think so.
I shouldn't give you another award of some sort that you're going to be there for.
Too much. Yeah, I probably have said too much. But we, we have outside of MSG. It's going to be nuts tonight, you guys. Of course it is. You guys realize there's going to be an entire— yes, it's going to be a hellscape.
Yeah. Sounds like a place you don't want to be, if I'm being honest.
Why would you ever want to be there?
Wouldn't you guys assume that there's going to feel like a loud heartbeat at the center of New York around Madison Square Garden?
I think it would be awesome.
Is it going to be like Times Square New Year's Eve vibes? Look, I'm—
that many people.
I'm going to—
I'm flying to New York on Friday. Friday is Game 2. I, I think I'm gonna go check out what's going on around the Garden. I think it's, I think it sounds pretty fun.
Are you insured or not?
Uh, I haven't, I haven't thought about that yet, but now I'll consider it.
Think about it.
Do it.
I'll keep it real. I scared.
I saw them like rip off a jersey of somebody.
Okay, let them try.
I dare them.
You got no ex-athlete with you this time?
I want my wife with me.
You wouldn't wear a Heat jersey. Maybe I will. Friday outside MSG, you in a Heat shirt.
There will definitely be a shirt underneath.
I'll give you a $100 bill if you do that.
To wear a Heat shirt? Take that. Yeah, I'll take that.
You'll be fine.
Good deal.
You're gonna be fine.
It has to be around a crowd though. I don't want you out there at 5:30 in the morning. No, taking a video during the game at MSG.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right, nice.
Go ahead.
I am going ahead.
What sounded— you said maybe a second ago. The $100 has lured you out?
Yeah, why not? $100, $100.
Okay, you're not scared to be, uh, wearing it, being the only one wearing a Heat jersey?
What's gonna happen?
Are you scared?
Never scared. What's gonna happen?
Famous last words.
What's gonna happen?
What could possibly happen?
These people are involved in the game. They're gonna be worried about someone wearing a shirt of another team. That's so stupid. I don't care.
A bunch of friendly Knicks fans. What could possibly happen?
Why do they care about what I'm wearing not bothering anybody. It's not like I'm wearing a Spurs shirt. You're going to give me $100?
You're going to earn it.
Guy wants to earn.
"Fairness is a moral objective."
Jessica gives us the on ramp to discuss the fall of CBS before we dive into the magic mystery of Bobby Valentine's fake mustache, the disrespect of the stolen catchphrase, and Leeman's Christmas-like feeling as the Knicks head to the Finals tonight. Plus, JuJu stops by to update the Polls.
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