Transcript of Hour 2: Welcomed Distraction Or... (feat. Amin Elhassan)

This is the Dan Levatore Show with the Stugats podcast. We've got some sound to play that was pretty confusing between Cristobal and Saban. Saban questioned Cristobal at the end of that first half against Ole Miss. Cristobal had a good response. Had a good response while Saban is saying, two minutes spot like that, you got to make sure that you get points, but don't put yourself in a position where you're giving up points. And Cristbaal came right back out and went, No, Coach, actually, after a minute in the game, you do try to go aggressive there with a minute left in the half. Let's play that sound for the people. Two scores by the half, no question about it. The two minutes before the half where they stole three points, where if you don't have field position, it's not like two minutes at the end of the game. What the hell are you doing? Come on. We should have never let him get the ball back. Coach, I hate to stop you, but let me correct you. As by your standard, and I'll show you your notebook if you want to, if you were under 45 seconds and at your 35, you try to pop a run on your screen, and if you do, you go.

But with over a minute, especially over a minute 10, your philosophy was be aggressive and try to get points, and that's what we did. So there you go. I need to see that. I may have changed my philosophy TV's changed them, Coach.

Tv's changed them, Coach.

It used to be about physicality. Now you like, trick dick reverses. I saw a flea flipper last night.

I saw a bar down to some bullshit.

I've never seen before. He also told nick Saban to go trim his eyebrows because Mario Cristobal wants to win at football, punching you in the face.

That was a good punch-counter punch session there. Got his ass with a flea flicker, though.

I got to tell you, I think I've gotten past it, but certainly at first, I was not comfortable with how much I enjoy Saban on television. He is excellent. He is excellent.

What do you mean you're not comfortable with it.

Because I haven't liked him. Everything that happened with the dolphins, and certainly, you're not going to root for Big Bad Alabama. I have not liked Saban, but he's tremendous on television, and I find he comes off very likable.

I like him now. Espn has done an amazing job with everything that that show is. It's hard to be a vibrant Saturday thing that's better than all the other things because you figure it out. With chemistry among big egos, it's one of, with a lot of different personalities, it might be... I mean, in the history of sports television, our lifetimes, it's inside the NBA in this, is it not? At the top of the food chain. If I give you everything in sports content, I Never mind even just studio shows. I could just give you the best things that sports television does of all kinds. Make it HBO Real Sports and anything else you want to throw in there. The College Game Day Saturday experience to be that relevant, reinvent itself over 20 years, be a lovable Saturday Americana thing, is the second greatest thing in the history of sports television not named the Inside the NBA show for chemistry and reinvention.

I had Reece Davis on my college football campus tour show this weekend for ESPN radio. We were in Atlanta for Beach Bowl. I love hearing about the travel because they did the game Thursday, that crew, at Fiesta Bowl. Then Friday, I know they were already in Atlanta. So I was talking to Reece Friday morning. And so I said to him, my first question was, I got to hear about the travel. I love the travel and how you get from one place to the next. He was like, Listen, I probably shouldn't be saying this, but it was a handful of us We took Saban's Jet. We took nick Saban's Jet Thursday right after the broadcast. So they're not staying for the game. Right as the game is starting, Saban's Jet, they're taking off. But Reece Davis tells me they couldn't watch the They couldn't watch the Fiesta Bowl. They had to keep getting updates from the tower because Saban doesn't spring for the Wi-Fi on his private jet. So they couldn't watch the game. They're literally getting updates from the tower.

Who's in there? Who are you accusing of not watching the Fiesta Bowl?

I'm not accusing. Reece Davis told us on the air. This is not a private story.

He came on our show. But who are the people on this plane?

It's Reece, and it's nick Saban, and it's Desmond Howard, and it's Stanford Steve, and a couple of other guys.

So they couldn't watch the game. They were not able to watch the University of Miami game.

They thought they were going to be able to watch the game, but they get on and Saban doesn't have the WiFi.

That's what I'm stuck on.

Well, I will tell you this story. I think I told you guys this the other day. I was surprised to see, back when Jimmy Johnson wasn't tired of travel and going back and forth, he would fly to the West Coast every week, and he didn't fly privately. He flew in class. When I asked him why he didn't fly privately, his response was, The WiFi is too expensive when you're going across the country like that. I can't watch the college football games while I'm flying if I also have to pay for the WiFi on my private plane.

What's the point of making all these millions of dollars if you are going to shell out a little bit extra to pay for Wi-Fi on your private plane?

But it must be prohibitive, though. You have a private plane. I got to think, though, if nick Saban is making commercials and everything else, that we're He's not understanding something about what Wi-Fi costs on an airplane.

Here was Saban's explanation. And by the way, Reece Davis said they go 700 miles an hour. They got to Atlanta really quick. They got to watch at least the fourth quarter live by the time they landed. But here is Saban's explanation. He never has to watch any live game on his plane because he watches film. So he has these games downloaded to his computer. So he's never had to use Wi-Fi.

But that's not a fun way to experience the game, to be watching it later on tape without already knowing the result. What fun is that? You don't think Reece Davis still loves sports enough that he wants to be watching it? They wouldn't be calling up to the cockpit asking for scores if they were okay just watching it by film. Amin joins us now. He's going to do his weekend observations in a second. What are your thoughts here, Amin?

You think nick Saban watches games for fun? You have like, Oh, give me my popcorn. I want to watch the Fiesta Bowl. No, this dude is He's working. He's working like he's still a head coach. He's breaking down film. He's watching all 22s. He is in locked in mode. The surprise of who wins or not. I think that's the thing that a lot of non-working for sports organizations people don't get is that the film that we watch is not for the surprise, I wonder who's going to win. It is literally just an exercise that you go through and you watch things and you break it down and you rewind and you pause and you draw a place. That's it's there for. No one's actually saying, I wonder if Miami is going to pull it off. They don't care like that.

But one of the things that I think is funny about Zaslow seeing Saban reinvented in this form in the afterlife of his career as he's going to become a powerful voice on lobbying. It's funny to me that anyone thinks that someone who's that competitive would get into this field and then not be competitive about being the very best at this field. He's not going there to have a platform. Nick Saban cares deeply about being better at this than other people, and so he's going to put in the grind of work that he misses to study the film, so he is saying the most interesting things. There is no way he's taking that job casually. When I tell you that that's the hardest thing to keep up in the air, the weekly of that live show, Chris Fowler has done everything on television. He says very little is as hard as that show. People have no idea the difficulty of the mechanics of pulling off everything that they're doing live and the number of people that that requires. To swap out your mascot and replace him with the greatest college coach they've ever been, to allow someone to age with grace and get rid of Lee Corso so that he's sat in a parking lot because everyone knows this is the best thing.

Everyone knows that to work at this thing is to be at the center of America every Saturday. What are you smiling about, I mean?

You think Lee Corso knows he's not on the show?

Starlink Aviation says that you can get WiFi installed on most business for $145,000. But that doesn't include the monthly fees or the potential installation costs. That's just for the equipment.

I don't see Jimmy Johnson as a cheap man. There was something about this Wi-Fi He couldn't get it on his plane to watch games. I'm sure he... Look, he didn't want to be talking to me in first class about asking him, Why are you not flying in private? That's not what he wants, but because he gets to watch the football game, the cost may be too much. It must be. Jimmy isn't cheap.

Guys, flying private is not good. It's not good for the environment. It leaves a huge carbon footprint. I applaud Jimmy Johnson for riding first class because he doesn't need to flaunt his wealth to the world. Look, oh, look at me, I only fly private. There's plenty of flights, American Airlines, Delta Airlines, spirit, you could take that are nonstop, that'll get you where you need to go safely and on time. Shout out to you, Coach Johnson.

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Weekend Observations is brought to you by Miller Lite. Legendary moments start with the light. Dan. We had so much fun with Miami winning last Thursday. We gave Mike Ryan his flowers. We showed Michael Irvin doing the Belt to Ass celebration. But Friday night, the Indiana Hoosiers showed us and the rest of the country what Belt to Ass really looks like. Holy shit. What an ass-whoping. Last week, I was sold that Jags were going to the Super Bowl, and that Dylan McDermott, or whatever the hell his name is, is going to get fired because the bills are cooked. It's almost like you guys don't know what the blaze is you're talking about.

I am so mad at myself for trusting the Jags. I feel really stupid.

The whole show, everybody on the show is stupid. You guys didn't like that push-push by the bills. But when the late Mike Leach suggested having Brad Williams in for short-yarded situations and tossing them over the line of scrimmage, you all teared.

That's a great idea.

Mike Leach, one of a kind.

Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at Lebitard Show. Will somebody hire a little person next season and throw them seven over the line of scrimmage with the football on Fort Down?

Not any little person. Brad Williams.

Okay, make it Brad Williams. Fine. The packers. He's heavier than some of them. I want a lighter... Yes, I want somebody lighter that can be thrown further.

He needs to be able to withstand the impact, though, to break through. If he's too light, bounce off.

What bully do you have to be to fat shame a little person? You want a lighter little person, huh?

Yes. In these situations, if I need a first down on fourth and seven, I can get one because my right tackle can throw a little person seven and a half yards further because he's lighter. Yes.

Wait, if the guy, if you get a jockey, he's like a javelin shape, so you could just toss it really like a spiral.

Him or her.

I'm picturing the way passes get deflected, like Brad getting deflected by a D-line.

Cte.

Incoming. It's so great, though. Can you imagine if somebody broke that out next season in a key spot, we were just hiding someone on the practice squad.

Brad will play for the Broncos for free.

The Broncos are going to need it. The Broncos are going to need some yardage.

Zero dollar cap hit. The packers. Now, that's a choke job. I turned the game off. I sent my condolences text to all my Chicago people. I turned on Jazz versus Hornets.

Somebody had a minus. Somebody had a plus minus, a minus 60 in that game.

Not somebody. It's Cody Williams of the Utah Jazz. Minus 60. Hornet scored 150. Loest plus minus ever.

How is that possible? I put it on the poll at Lebitard show. Is it possible to have a minus 60 plus minus in an NBA game against Charlotte at home?

Yes. Dan, I could do you one better. Do you know who Cody Williams's older brother is?

I do not.

Jalen Williams. Yes, the good one for Oklahoma City. That's his older brother.

How is that doing me one better on somebody had minus 60 in an NBA game?

I'll do you one better then. I'll do even one better than that. Utah Jazz this year, have the worst defensive rating in NBA history. That's pretty obvious because they give him 150.

Oh, wait a minute. I mean, this is a good stat. I think you should get the stat of day music. I think we should stop. This is an amazing stat that you're about to give here.

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Oh, wow. That's nice. A little synergy with the sponsor. The Utah Jazz, the worst defensive rating in NBA history this season. They broke the previous record, which was set by the Utah Jazz of the '24, '25 season. Who broke the previous record, which was set by the Utah Jazz of the '23, '24 season. That's right, ladies and gentlemen. For three consecutive years, the Utah Jazz have not only had the worst defensive rating NBA history, they've improved on that by setting the record even further.

It is historically the worst defensive basketball team there has ever been by miles, correct?

I just told you how many miles. Three years in a row, they've broken their own record. There's nobody close. That'll never happen again in the history of sports unless they do it again next year for four straight years. We're living in a dynasty. All right, back to observations. Three, two, one, and give it to me. There it is. Don't worry. Just hit it. Don't worry about it. I mean. Yeah, okay. All right. Minus 60. Lowest plus minus ever. I woke up the next day to do morning radio, and while shooting the shit with my board off, I learned the bears one. True story. Mike Ryan, clapping back at I. U. Defensive Coordinator Bryant Haynes with, May you continue to decatapult your team to new heights. I I love it.

Get it?

I love it. Good shit, Mike. What do you think he means by that? Does anyone know? Am I the only one who doesn't know? Show of hands.

I don't know. I honestly don't know. Mike Ryan is being clever. He's amused with himself. I don't get the reference.

Okay, no, that doesn't make it a bad reference, Mike. It just means nobody here got it. But I'm sure someone I got it. I lived for those jokes. That's why I laughed hard.

I can guarantee you he got it.

Genesis is here? Yeah. Talk your shit, Mike. Dan, not being able to count bowling pins and blaming it on camera work. Never change. Tony, going to the sex shop to deliver NFL takes. Journalism. Dan, getting excited to see a garland that he thought was a thong. Dan Levatard repurposed garland collision course. Except for Dan, the garland would have to have Matthew Stafford on it with a speech bubble saying, Let's go snatch these guys' hearts. Be honest, Dan. Clean up on aisle three.

I was scared. I was scared that the Carolina Panthers were going to make me look idiotic again somehow by winning a game I couldn't possibly explain how they won.

But I'm saying, when you heard that Stafford said that before the game-winning drive, Clean up on aisle three, Let's hear Devante Adams saying what it is that Amin is talking about there. I think he said, Let's go snatch these guys' hearts. That was pretty cold just to hear that, and I actually literally smiled in the moment because I thought that that was one of the most gangsta things you could say in that moment, honestly, and to hear him say that and the look on his face and then throw the touch down and then the look on his face after that was just like MVP stuff. Zaz, hand him a towel. Clean up on aisle 3 right Why do you have me masturbating in a grocery store? That's gross. I'm not having you masturbating. Heavy-handed. That is involuntary, my friend. An expulsion.

Why is it in a grocery store? Why does it need to be cleaned up? Why am I around like a bunch of crackers and the chips, and you've got me an aisle 3.

Aisle 3. Aisle 3 is not the chip aisle, sir. Aisle 3 is pasta sauce and pasta.

That was the spice owl.

The spices are at the end of the aisle.

Put it on the poll at Levitard's show. Aisle 3, what does it have? Spices or pastas?

Chips is what you suggested.

All right, chips, crackers, spices, or pasta.

All right. Ridiculous. Respect yourself. I just didn't understand why it is that you were having a cleanup in aisle 3.

Why is someone ejaculating in aisle 3 of a grocery store? Not better. You know why.

Dennis Schroeder suspended for three games for confronting and attempting to strike an opposing player. Then commenting, quote, attempting, eyes emoji, rolling laughing emoji, underneath the Shams post announcing the suspension. It's pretty cool, considering the attempt was successful. Dan, you know about that?

I don't.

Dennis Schroeder and Luca Donchez got into it in a Lakers-Kings game in late December. Allegedly, Luca said something about you should have taken that contract or whatever. He made some contract.

They called the B-word.

Well, I feel like the contract part was probably the worst part. Dennis Schroeder confronted him in the hallway after the game, but he didn't attempt to strike him. He slapped him. Yeah. Missed connection.

Why do you love your silly NBA drama? Why is it that you can't get enough of these beefs that are silly and not very adult?

To me, I don't… When the story was just he slapped Luka Doncha, I was like, Oh, okay. But when the suspension is for an attempt to strike, and he's like, Attempt? That's where I enjoyed that.

Why did they describe it as attempt? Wouldn't it make more sense for striking Luka Donchik?

I don't know. Maybe it's in question whether he actually made contact, although Dennis Schroeder would attempt to confirm that, yes, he did, in fact, make contact. Okay, good. Misconnection. You were the hilarious stand-up comedian who shouted me out in the middle of your set. I was the drunk asshole who had you had security toss out. Back to Oregon getting smacked. Prayers to Trista Crick, who had quite possibly the greatest live vlogging of a fan experience I've ever seen. It was hilarious to see the ups and the downs.

Girls down bad.

Yeah. Prayers to Ian Carmel as well. But he bounced from that ass open to do tremendous work writing for Nikki Glazer, who hosted the Golden Globes. I have no idea which jokes were yours, Ian, but I laughed. It's like milk, right? I have no idea which specific cow it came from. I just know it gives me the shits afterwards. Except in Ian's case, instead of the shits, it's laughter. I promised that was supposed to be a compliment. Speaking of the Golden Globes, they gave away an award for best podcast. Cinephobe wasn't nominated.

Who won?

I don't know, but I know that Cinephobe episode 2. 95 was Def Jam's How to be a Player.

Amy Pollet.

Starring Bill Bellamy. Bernie Mac, Mari Morrow, and Lark Voorheys. Lark Voorheys. They had to reshoot the ending after the original ending tested poorly with female audiences. Women, am I right? Back me up, Zaz. We know what they love. Okay. Wives in particular. Is there anyone who hates the sight of a hospital more than Anthony Davis? Christ Almighty. His latest, a left-hand injury that will either take six weeks to heal if they opt for the nonsurgical route or months if he goes under the knife. I mean, that won't help the trade value.

I mean, how did their front office not trade Anthony Davis the day they fired Nico Harrison?

Because there were people inside the organization who are saying, Wait, we can still do this. All we need is fight for Kyrie Irving to get back. Shout out to Nico Harrison. There's a basketball hell. He's in it. Speaking of health, Art Bryals, those are the weekend observations.

I mean, you're welcome to stick around if you want. We've got a hockey fight that we want to dissect in a second, but I wanted to ask the audience at Lebitard show, Golden Globes. Welcome Distraction or Especially Ridiculous During These Particular Times? You have to choose one or the other. I could not find enthusiasm for the Golden Globes last night. I'm not much for the award show. What are you shaking your head about, I mean?

Is it a welcome distraction or these times it's not appropriate to have this programming on at these times. Now, let's watch some football. Let's watch some football. That's some stuff I can get behind from all.

That's correct. Thank you for being on with us. I mean, I appreciate it.

We sent Tony to a sex shop.

You can always count on Mark Ruffalo making you feel better about your choices.

I saw Ruffalo quoted. I've always liked Ruffalo, but I saw him after That tracks. After... I have. Am I the only one? I've liked Ruffalo, but... Okay, put it on the poll at Lebitard. Is Dan the only one who's liked Ruffalo?

I have a Ruffalo governor whenever I start getting too blowhardy about politics. I'm like, Just don't cross the Ruffalo threshold.

I don't like him, or I didn't like him because of his politics, so I understand why you would make that accusation. I just liked him for being a schlubby guy who made it in acting and seemed to make some pretty decent, ambitious choices. But then he started in task. He was not the star of the vehicle. As soon as he was left alone with it, it fell apart and was not worth watching. But one of the things- Spoiler alert, Jesus. One of the things that he said after that is, I don't know, I woke up a leading man, or I went to bed a leading man, and I get up in the morning, and now I'm this schlubby guy, and I'm like, Ruffalo, you think of yourself as a leading man? I know he is. I know he's the Hulk, and he is. But part of your appeal is that you're not supposed to think of yourself as the leading man. You're Ruffalo. You're Ruffalo.

This is coming from someone that clearly hasn't seen 13 Going on 30.

Love that movie.

I like that hair.

It's an all-timer. A slick-back look and collateral. You're kidding me? Ruffalo? He looked handsome and collateral.

So Ruffalo, you're okay with Ruffalo calling himself a leading man as if he's beautiful?

You got- You don't have to be beautiful to be a leading man.

I don't know.

Handsome in certain roles? No, his point in task was that he gained some weight and was drinking a vodka out of a styrofoam cup in the morning, and he went 30 pounds heavier. I've always thought of him as a bit schlubbyby. If you identify as a leading man, you're not exactly Clooney. They're a handful of leading men. I don't expect Matt Damon to say it, even though he is. You guys aren't with me on the idea of there's a... Even if it's a feigned humility. If you're Giamatti, you don't call yourself a leading man. If you're Buscemi, You don't call... You know your place.

But those guys aren't leading men. They're leads in shows, but Ruffalo has been able to toe that line of he could be the romantic interest.

That's right. I think we're certainly well within our rights to take shots at Mark Ruffalo's appearance.

I looked like him, the lesser version of him, even in- Who told you you looked like him? Even in. Wait, wait.

Have some feign humility here, Dan Labetard.

I mean, in the schlubbiest way. No, no, no. I don't mean in the leading man way. I mean, in the ways he's describing in task That he's embarrassed by. That's the part I'm saying. You also drink vodka out of a styrofoam cup? Or is it tequila? Yeah, of course, tequila.. Do kümmerst dich jeden Tag andere, dich und dein Zuhause. Du kümmerst dich, wenn es drauf ankommt.

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Stugats.

It's a good algorithm.

This is the Dan Levatard Show with the Stugats. Let's get to that hockey fight involving 10-year-olds because it's taking us too long to get to this hockey fight involving 10-year-olds. Chris, do you want to give me some of the play by play on this so that I can follow it? Because I have not seen it. You guys were telling me it was the best video from the weekend.

It's my favorite video of the weekend. It's an AHL game. During the intermission, they do this a lot where they bring out a bunch of kids. Hey, you get seven minutes. Go play hockey. And these kids did not play hockey. They just started fighting. And it became, I think, a 90 second. We can maybe get our chart out to see what this actually was. Was it a Mele?

Was it a...

What the hell are the other things that we had? A Scrum?

This is just a brawl. Keep an eye on the goalie right here. Keep an eye on him. Okay.

Look, maybe Zaz, you could do your- Well, he was trying to do the telestrator, but he missed the goalie.

You could do the Rostein. Roll it. Well, but he's not keeping up with everything that's happening here. He's He's not using the telestrator very well at all.

Where are the parents? Look at this. Boom. Oh, my God.

You saw he gave a fist pump, too. He's proud of himself.

Then he got out of there. This is just like, Where are the parents?

I also want you to keep an eye here, Dan. Watch this kid right here and this one. They start fighting each other. The same team, they start fighting each other.

At one point, two blue kids. They start punching each other.

They're on the same team. Circle it. Circle it, Zad. You're not helping anybody by red-dotting these kids.

These guys.

Yeah.

You're using the telestrator very poorly.

Well, I just love this. The crowd was going nuts to it. It was just way better.

What do you want? You want the parents involved? The coaches maybe.

Where are the adults?

Maybe the announcement to be like, Stop, kids. No one was doing that. The crowd was going wild.

God, that goalie.

Then he gets out of there.

No, that goalie is good. That goalie is his hell-bent on destruction. He I got three people by just skating from one end of the ring to the other and then hitting them with all his pads. Just going back, let's not forget, they're flying into this pile with skates.

This is not safe.

No, it's not in any way safe.

I'm really surprised no one got seriously injured. I love the guy punching his teammate.

We're sure of that, right? And by the way, how about this goalie right here? Can he do something?

I know the blue team goalie is just watching.

I mean, grow a pair. Get in there.

Somebody cross-check somebody there.

Ten years old, grow a pair. That's what literally is going to happen over the rest of the Now, while this is out of control, you know they have the respect here.

No one's taking their stick and wait. They have their...

These are hockey players.

That was a cross-check.

Yeah, but there's a level of respect even in this.

The goalie was hell-bent on destruction. The goalie is a menace who is being raised poorly, as all of those kids are, by parents who are feeding a culture of violence that is stupid.

I just love that in this sport, that's not that crazy.

Welcome distraction or ridiculous excess in these difficult Welcome to Strasher. The Golden Globes last night. Nikki Glazer is now the host of the moment. She's been great rising above a comedy to do these things exceptionally well. They're not that easy to do. We don't have a lot of beloved by America. Oh, she's going to be funny and edgy, and those things require some personality so that you can soften it for America, who is put off by the Ruffalos of the world going there and making their political speeches as the Hollywood elite. Nikki Glazer is filling a role in comedy right now that only goes to some of the comedy greats and is crushing it doing so because those monologs are hard to do. You have to have an assortment of writers. They are pressurized, and only the best of the comedy greats are always invited to do those things.

Then you didn't have the energy. But you didn't watch this award show?

No.

She was great. Shout out to Ian Carmel, as it means to.

But when you watch, I get these things condensed for me. I don't know how you- You've seen of it. No, I don't know how you guys consume your late nights, or I don't all I'm watching is 10-minute monolog clips.

So from the social clips you got there.

Yeah, it cut together. I don't care who wins anything.

I enjoyed her Sean Penn jokes and her Leo DiCaprio jokes. She took the easy bait when it came to Leo DiCaprio.

It's low-hanging fruit.

Come on. Yeah, but then she explained the joke. She's like, I'm sorry, Leo, but that's literally all we know about you. The last interview that you've given was the team beat in which your answer to your favorite food was pasta, pasta, pasta.

She has the perfect ability not only to deliver those jokes without them coming across as corny, but then throwing in the self-deprecating joke within it. There's a moment where you think she's going to go after Jennifer Lawrence, and then all she does is make fun of herself by saying she went in and asked a makeup person to make her look like Jennifer Lawrence, and they said that they couldn't in some way. It was just like, it's a really perfectly crafted monolog. And coming in and out of commercial breaks, she seems to be the perfect person to to host these events. Everybody likes her.

These things are hard to do as we go back to College Game Day. People have gotten used to these things, right? Things don't go wrong, and so therefore, people have just been spoiled by the idea that every Saturday on live television, you have three or four hours of programming that all of America is watching, and they fly across the country, and they are giant productions, and they've reinvented themselves as a show with McAfee and Saban to ward off the threat of the other group that doesn't have quite the same chemistry. That's become obvious over the last two years, has it not? That even as Fox attracts audience for a variety of reasons that doesn't have anything to do with sports, they can't televise the same thing. It's not as good.

Look, obviously, I work for ESPN. I haven't heard. I don't hear people talk about what happened on big news.

They're watching it. They are watching it. It's just clearly not as good. It's an inferior product.