Transcript of Have the Spurs Been Tested More Than OKC?! + SGA vs Wemby Gets REAL | Alley Oop 184 New

Until James is a serious player, we have to just call him Jimmy.

Yeah, yeah, Jimmy Harden, bro.

Jimmy H. Jimmy, what up, boy? What you doing? He's like, he's, he's 80 on the porch. I ain't nothing, just chilling. He's just blessed, you know what I mean? But he's out there, he's out there hooping. But that's Jimmy now.

Yeah, that's Jimmy. Salute to Tim, bro. 100 Clips. I'm from Atlanta. Welcome back to the alley-oop. I am the Kid Juju Gotti, joined as always by my sister Trista Crick. How you doing?

It's a lovely Monday, Juju. It's a day for eulogy today. Oh my God, for a wake. It's a day for a funeral. Let me just tell you, let's break it down.

Break, break down instead of breaking me on down.

Well, I mean, we don't really— there's not a lot of analytics needed. You got your ass whooped in Game 7 at the crib as a 1 seed that won 60 games by a team that everybody's been calling soft. So no, you guys were soft and Kay Cunningham ran out of gas. 13 points, a -32 for the game, which was a worst on the team plus-minus. I mean, 0 for 7 for 3.

When you, when you lose by 32 and you're the star player, you're gonna be out there. So I don't know, but your point still stands.

I mean, it's just, yeah, I guess that's right, but Wasn't able to get any scoring done. Got absolutely nothing from Tobias Harris. You get zilch, literally zilch. You got fucking— why is my guy, uh, what's his name, Marcus Sasser, why is he out there? You know, why is he playing so many minutes? Why didn't— why did Paul Reed only play 8 minutes? Why did Isaiah Stewart only play 6 minutes? I don't understand what's going on. What is going on, bro?

Biggerstaff was trying to prove points, I feel like, at the wrong time, bro. Like, I feel you by trying things out and tinkering, but like you said, bro, ain't no way in hell Basketball Paul's supposed to get under 8 minutes, 9 minutes, bro. What is you doing? And I saw when he got took out too, he was just as mad as me. This is what I think happened to Basketball Paul. They told Paul he was coming out. My boy said, fuck. And I said, oh no, please don't allow that to judge the rest of the game. We ain't see him no more the rest of the game. We saw the end of the bench before we saw him. And so I think that it's just semantics, bro. It was the scheme. Everything that the Pistons could have done, they should have done. And you can't get that type of— I mean, we don't want to beat my boy down, but shit, bruh. Jalen Duren, bro, you gotta show up, bro. He ain't even have a 6-shot attempts, 7-shot attempts. Like, you not— you're so not a factor in this game that I feel like it would have behooved them boys to sit you down, and they didn't.

Janet, uh, Dennis Jenkins, up and down the roster, I don't think anybody on that team provided Kade with the help that was necessary outside of All-Star defensively. And that's what my boy, my sister been saying out here.

That's it. I mean, like Meryl Streep be saying in Devil Wears Prada, that is all.

But speaking of Meryl, brothers and sisters and my non-binaries, Sam Meryl was Michael Jeffrey Jordan yesterday.

They said, they said Sam Meryl Lynch branch is open on Sundays.

That is just— wow. Who said that?

Phenomenal. 23 points for Sam Merrill, shot 70% from the floor, hit 5 threes on your eyeballs. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I don't know.

And it's tough.

James Harden performance where he did 9 points, shot 20% from the field. You can't get a win at the crib in Detroit.

Like you said, ran out of gas. And I think that's why— I mean, I was telling folks this around the time the trade happened. Nobody cares about being right sometimes, but I do right now. But I told them boys on the Levittar Show, James Harden to Cleveland is not James Harden to Brooklyn. It's not James Harden to Philly. It's not James Harden to LA or Houston. All them places needed something out of my boy in the Game 7 scenario. Cleveland, all they gotta do is activate their Megatron Autobots and just say, hey James, pass us the ball when you see us. You can shoot if you want to, but we're pretty sure you don't want to. Pass us the ball. That's exactly what he did.

Just don't turn the ball over. And guess what? He did it.

Yeah, and he's still trying to get that damn 3-point double foot foul me please off. You got to stop doing that, James. Jimmy Harden, let me tell you Do that once every game. Don't do it, Jimmy. Jimmy Harden, you feel me? Do it once again, bro. You pulling it out every 2 plays, and that's why you're not getting the call. It's goofy. But respect, dude, with the way it was supposed to be, bro. Jared Allen, big game. Evan Mobley, super game. Like, them boys in Detroit did not know what to do with a damn pick and roll to save their life.

It was like they just forgot.

Right, bro. Salute, man. We love you. I love you.

I will say too, Donovan Mitchell, I thought, played with a level of aggressiveness right away. Yeah, that, um, was very needed. I know he had an ankle sprain, but he looked very, uh, explosive and quick and bouncy from moment one. He was getting downhill. But he was also— I thought the thing that was really impressive, and for whatever reason the Pistons just didn't see coming, he was getting downhill and then was just dumping it off to Evan Mobley or Jared Allen for these easy lobs. They're collapsing on Donovan Mitchell and he's got an easy wraparound pass for a dunk. And then it's kind of like, well, I mean, they had 50-something points in the paint on Detroit.

Yeah, man. And my boy Cade Cunningham, brother, you can't make plays like this and not get besmirched by my sister. Kade had a play during the game. After this play, after I saw this, I'm like, oh damn, my boy is not here today. I don't know what this is. The conspiracy Twitter was eating this one up, boy. Look, look how, uh, Kade on the pick and roll, Jared Allen falls down. Here, Jared. What was that, bruh? This is when I was like, bro, what's happening? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're not doing this, Kade. He threw it right into his, his Yeah, but it was time for my boys to go home, bro. After I saw that, I'm like, yeah, yeah, you do not need to pull up in New York with none of this, bro. Good luck. I think next year gonna— they overachieved this year.

Go ahead, ask you something crazy.

Go ahead.

Like, who is that for them that they should go after?

I mean, to me, you got to get some scoring. You got to get somebody that— because that's why I think Cleveland was, uh, excelling yesterday because James didn't have it. But guess what? Dino time, uh, you dig? Uh, it's everybody else time to step up. Sam Merrill. And so I think somebody like Zach Levine— that's what I was thinking, you see what I'm saying? From Sacramento.

That's why I was like, it's crazy, it's a potentially a crazy take because you kind of I mean, Zach Lavine can't guard though. The thing is, they need somebody that can score and guard. Maybe they could go out and— I know that Drew doesn't want to leave, and I don't want to trade him. Yeah, I feel like Drew's a perfect player for the, the type of team that wants every guy on the floor to be able to defend. Yeah, but like, listen, Asar, we gotta, we gotta talk, bro.

Yeah, we gotta talk.

Come on, it's not acceptable to have no jump shot. It's not acceptable. It's not acceptable. I, I said this, I asked this to somebody that was like a shooting coach in the NBA.

Yeah.

And I said, could, could anyone, no matter who they are— yeah, that's like already in the NBA— become an elite shooter? And they said, well, what do you mean? I go, I'm not even talking about like perfect form or anything. But just like not leave them open, become a respectable 3-point shooter if there's not something wrong with their shoulders like Alyssa Thomas, right?

Cash Money Records for the 99, 2000, every time they shoot type shit.

They said, yeah, this is literally about repetition.

Yep.

And coaching. And to me, if you're an NBA player making lots of money and you want to make lots of money and you want to stay on the floor, Like, this is the easiest thing for you to be able to do. The thing that's hard is the thing you already do well, right?

Because I don't know if y'all looking at this, look at my boy punch Max Cruz to the— what, what row was that? Third row. Two hands, a volleyball style. Like, bro, you can't teach this. Like my sister saying, if you got that already, all you gotta do is go put up 1,000 shots a day. Come on, I'm more formidable, bro. You right, sis.

It's, it's just, it's— to me, it's, it's disrespecting the game.

You might be right, bro. Look, I don't know if it— I don't know whether to believe this or not, the internet or not, but Lethal Shooter seems like a great guy to pull up on. It gets your form right.

I'm sorry, please.

So do I, guys. I understand it now. I saw Antrix, uh, hey man, uh, you might want to pull up on bro too because You can get a little better at that jumper. My boy shot an airball from the corner yesterday, bro. I'm sorry, I was like, and it was short.

We cannot have that.

Hell nah, bro.

It's to the point, Juju, where they're talking about all the people who, you know, like talk about basketball on ESPN and shit. Like, we— I think you can't have him and Jalen Duren on the floor together ever.

That's that. That's a messed up sentence to be a part of. Imagine if somebody said, bro, we can't have you and Tristan on the court at the same time. I'm, I'm finna call you, bro. We finna get in the gym and work on some stuff ourselves before them folks get the contracts ready, bro.

But Jalen Durant wants 40, 40 M's. Can't pay him that.

Look, you can go find that somewhere if you want to, bro. If they gonna give it to you, go ahead, bro. Washington look like they spending money, but here in Detroit We going for something totally different, bro. It was a great year, but we still fell short. So I mean, get well soon, salute. But they, uh, the Cleveland Cavaliers about to move it on to the New York Knickerbockers. The, the fans with the plans, like, what do you predict out of this upcoming series? Do— does Cleveland have a chance, or is it just a foregone conclusion?

To me, it's a foregone conclusion. The only way I see Cleveland winning this series is that their front court has to absolutely dominate. Yeah, you know, you have to get Mitchell Robinson in foul trouble. Uh, you gotta really— you gotta like make— or make Mike Brown take him off of the floor because you just foul the shit out of him and make him miss those free throws. Yeah, but because they're a little bit, you know, their depth at center is not really there. And like, Karl-Anthony Towns has pretty damn good series against these, these Cavs. So, you know, for me, it's like, I need Evan Mobley to stretch the floor. I need him to hit those threes that he was hitting, uh, against Detroit. I need Jared Allen putbacks. I need dunks. I need ferociousness. You need Donovan Mitchell to stay completely healthy and get downhill at will. You need Max Struess and Sam Merrill to be their best versions at all times. You need Max Struess to lock Jalen Brunson down. All these things have to go perfect.

Ah, um, I just— I— that sentence is kind of— can't get there, can't get there, because that's my biggest problem.

A hurt on Cade. Max Struess was great on Cade, but listen, Jalen Brunson's very shifty. He's a lot smaller than Cade, a lot more crafty than Cade, uh, and uses a lot more trickery than Cade. So yeah, I'm— I think OG Anunoby is going to be back too, which is not a good time for the Cavs. All of this to me is very— the bench for the— for New York needs to turn into a pumpkin again. There's just so many things that has to go right for the Cavs and wrong for the Knicks. That I don't see them all happening simultaneously. So I'm gonna take the Knicks in 5 or 6.

It's hard to argue with that, bruh, because as cool as it sounds, like you say, Max Kruse, hey, let's see it, bruh. That's Jalen Brunson. Oh, excuse me, that's Michael Jalen Brunson on that side, brother. Um, I'm not sure y'all had to deal with something like this thus far.

It's Shalen Gilgeous-Brunson out there.

All right, bro, because my boy is so shifty. And my boy, not only that, you got New York behind you. And last year you heard how it felt to lose to the damn Pacers. The year before that you felt how, I mean, this process could start. Now I feel like, bro, just the will that my boy got. He got his dad, pops, right here. Cleveland, it's gonna be a tall order, especially if them other guys feel like playing tonight. Like Mikal Bridges, if you gonna get last series Mikal Bridges, hang it up because you can put him on Dono. You could put OG on James— excuse me, pardon me, Jimmy. You could put Cat on him, you feel me? Like, they have matchups up and down that roster specifically.

James is a serious player. We have to just call him Jimmy.

Yeah, yeah, Jimmy Harden, bruh.

Jimmy H. Jimmy Harden is his— is like so him right now. It's like, Jimmy, what up, boy? What you doing? He's like, he's, he's 80 on the porch. I ain't nothing, just chilling. He's, uh, just blessed, you know what I mean? But he's out there, he's out there hooping. But that's Jimmy now.

Yeah, that's Jimmy. Salute to Tim, man. Hopefully you can get it together in this next series and get you a couple wins. But moving out to the West Side, Spurs taking on them boys, the Thunder. People are saying this is where the championship will come from, that W-E-S-T. Who you got, sis?

What makes me very nervous is how Vegas feels about this series. They have this— the Thunder, like, at almost -300 to win the series. Yeah, that's crazy. That's like kind of crazy, 80% probability. I think it's probably less likely than that. Yeah, I don't think that the basketball element of this matchup is really being taken into consideration.

Not yet.

You know, Wembley— Wembley's a factor that almost nobody can really put into your calculator and get a result for. Put that in your TI-85 and smoke it, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know, it's like error.

It's an error. 404. 404.

What? What? You're like, just might as well turn that TI-85 into— make it say hello. I don't know, like, and Steph Castle and Dylan Harper, they're not playing like, like youngsters, they're playing like seasoned vets. You got Harrison Barnes has got championship experience. The green anti-strip club Cornet, he's doing his thing, he's got championship experience. You've got, you know, Kelton Johnson, he saved Earth with Steph Curry in Team USA. No, wait a second, not with Steph Curry, with Kevin Durant.

There we go.

My bad, fam, my bad. He wouldn't have made that roster in Paris. And they said, no, boy, everybody wants to go to Paris. So yeah, I mean, they've got, you know, Wemby has Team France experience. They've got a bunch of high-leverage moments that they've been a part of. Yeah, so it's all about, is Jalen Williams going to disrupt the flow of how this team looks now that he's come back? We did see that Jason Tatum did— he did disrupt the flow of the balance when he reinjured himself. They didn't know how to go back to their original identity. So yeah, I, I think the Spurs have a puncher's chance.

Yeah, bro, I think it's— you hit it on the head. Because even if, say, let's just say Jalen Williams comes back and it gives a little hitch in their giddyup— hey, Jalen, sit down right quick. AJ. AJ, you know what to do. So I feel like it's gonna be a tall task because they are at their superest right now, the Thunder. Shea just got his next award. Just, I mean, everything is clicking right now. He just bought everybody APs.

That— not even the, not even the, um, Casio ones either. He got like the real APs, right?

These ain't Swatches.

No, they're not Swatches.

No, these are the real deals. It's capital A and P. But I feel like if there's ever a chance to steal one, it's tonight, because them boys got all that going on. And you know my boy Toronto guys over there, Drake just dropped, you feel me? Like, them boys is really high right now off of Life. So if you're gonna get one, this will be a great one to steal and then turn the 8-ball back on them boys.

And by the time you listen to this, the game has already been over. So we look smart or we look dumb. So now you know, Game 1 result has already concluded. You can tell us whether we forecasted this appropriately. I think that San Antonio is a really hard place to play too. Like, this is like— there hasn't been that great of a challenge yet for OKC. They play Phoenix. Yeah, you clap them up. There's like no resistance there. And then you play the Lakers, no resistance there. I mean, it was like competitive. For 3 quarters, and then, you know, they turned on the Jets. So we're gonna see a real challenge. I feel like the Spurs have been more tested.

Yeah.

Uh, than, than the Thunder. You're playing the Wolves that just beat the Nuggets, even with a hobbled Ant and no Dante and our hurt AO. Yeah, fine. Portland was a lot more pesky than I think that the Phoenix Suns were. They were up in 3 of those games. Out of those 5 games, they were up by double digits. They were up by 20-something in Game 4. So I mean, yeah, I, I like to think that the Spurs are going to be able to give them a test.

Yeah, yeah. And I do agree with Earth. I think the, the champion is coming out of this West. I mean, if, if the Knicks and the Spurs get there, we've seen in that cup the Knicks can make this a valiant effort against the Spurs. I'm just not sure it's gonna translate into the Finals if they get there. Right, and borrowing energies. But I 1,000% agree with you, bro. Until you beat the man, I don't know what to say to you. And the man is standing right there across from you, starting last night. But moving on to a little segment that we used to call— what's up? Yes sir, man. I don't know if you've seen over the weekend, my sister Asia Wilson— excuse me, pardon me— Queen Wilson came to Atlanta, man. Got the dub for my dream. I already— it was a close game.

Can I ask you a question?

Go ahead and ask.

What did you think about the That Girl University?

Uh, what are you talking about? Asia Wilson, That Girl University. You know, we just— we like to have fun. We like to allow our sisters jokes to try to get off, you know, the same way, uh, I'm pretty sure that Dion Dawkins from the Buffalo Bills didn't go to You Already Snow University. She had an attempt at humor. I don't know if it landed.

Oh my God. But Asia's not a funny person. Like, she's not that funny. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like, Draymond—

it's like if Draymond Green tried that. It's like, you're not funny. You're like already a villain. There's already ammunition here. It's like if Kennedy Carter—

I don't know, though. Hold on. I don't know.

Asia funny, bruh.

Did you see when she first put the bob on her head? Oh yeah, that was funny.

But what do you think would happen if Caitlin Clark would have said, I'm from that girl university? The internet would have exploded, bro.

What? And they would have had that girl university on the next Indiana Fever jerseys. It would have been crazy. You saw that was catching hell too for not putting on, uh, Caitlin on the graphic, bro. Salute to Dave, man. Dave, you got— you can't be pulling out the this is unfair stick for promo pictures, because like, come on, bro, what you thought about that? That do they have to put Caitlin on every promo picture, or is it okay to let Raven get some shine, man?

You can't leave Caitlin Clark off the promo and put Raven on the photo.

What's the— I mean, why? Like, I feel like because if you're watching this game, you draw, but they— so is the— are the pictures moving forward? Because you— I'm, I'm willing to— I'm understanding right now, I'm just having the conversation. You don't think that moving forward we could involve some of the lesser players in some of these promos? Because I feel like if you know the Fever plan, you know what's going on. Is it, is it, is it, is it a foul on the people who didn't put her up there?

Can't do it. If you're gonna put Raven on there, you have to put Caitlyn on there. Can't not put your star player on there. It would be like if they put Melissa on there and not Asia on there. Can't— like, what, what is Melissa doing here?

I mean, I definitely see your side. I just think that we could, we could progress on that. I feel like it's, it's a silly thing to get upset about. How about that? Are you upset about it, or is it just like you get upset about—

but you know what time we're living in, you know what I mean? Like, if we put the white man's work on there and we, and we did not put Angel on there it would be like, what, what the hellie? What is happening?

But nobody wouldn't be us. And my thing is, yes, and that's where I would like to— we can close this loop. It's not that I don't think it's a conversation that should be had. I just don't think we should deploy the troops for it. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, 1,000% agree.

We gotta take Raven down before— because it is Raven just on the picture.

I don't think we should be deploying the troops for almost anything.

And there we go. But moving back into the boy stop territory, Asia Wilson, that was playing, uh, the Connecticut, uh, Sun. And you know how the— in the lane, you gotta wait until the ball is shot by the free throw shooter. Look at my sister, she jumped. Oh yeah, a little too early of a jump.

I love that. It really shows me too that Becky Hammond is just such a player.

You know what?

We're actually— I recant everything I said. Asia is actually comedy. No, like, she's truly comedy.

After the game, Bam tweeted, Asia, pick up a flamingo, because that's how she look. Asia, you funny as hell, bro. Oh my God, Asia, girl, stop. But go ahead and get your lane violation.

Facts.

Moving on, bro, did you see, uh The boy Miles, uh, from the Bucks, Miles Turner, he took a flamethrower to the Bucks organization talking about them boys be late, Giannis don't ever get fined, nobody ever get fined, Doc ain't shit, uh, this brother ain't shit, the hot dog line ain't shit. My boy Bobby Portis heard all that, he was like, boy, this got to be AI. What do you think on Miles Turner? I can tell he trying to get traded. But is this the method he should go with?

Listen, I'm tired of Giannis. And you know what I'm most tired of about Giannis is that he has concocted this reputation. Yeah, he's like this family man and he's like got these dad jokes and that he's like so likable and so jolly. And it's like, no, Giannis, you, you don't want to be the villain, but like, you— all the things that you do are villainous and diva. Like, you, you show up 3 hours late for the plane consistently. You think you can just do whatever you want to do? Like, fine, you're Giannis, you've won an MVP multiple times, but like, wear that shit. Don't make everybody keep this a fucking state secret for you, okay? We know you don't want to be in Milwaukee. You keep acting. You put the Leonardo DiCaprio meme, I'm not leaving, like you're staying. You're not staying. You're not staying. You're annoying as fuck to me right now. And now you're like, oh, why would— why would— and I don't even like Miles Turner. Why would Miles Turner do such a— I don't even like him. But guess what? Brianna Stewart asked you the question, who was it? And you said it was Giannis.

Who else do you think it was?

Right. Sometimes you aggravate some folks enough, they don't got to carry your back, bro. You're aggravating.

You're not staying away. You're not staying with us anyway. Why do I care about your feelings?

And I've got my own millions and my own family. I'm a guy. I'm a family man. You feel me?

So yeah, listen, Juju, if you were showing up late to the recording by 3 hours every single show and someone was like, yo, who was it that showed up late? Was it Rebecca? Was it Dylan? It's like, nah, it was fucking Juju, okay? What?

Like, I'd be mad.

Yeah, you— and if I did that to you too, you'd be like, come on, man, right? If I was doing that to you, you probably wouldn't tell on me though.

Nah, I'd be like, nah, I think, I think we was all late for real for that one. Yeah, that one too, that was all us. But yeah, bro, but you mentioned earlier, bro, uh, about the future of the Bucks, and I'm gonna get the Bucks a fair warning right now. Do not trade for Jaylen Brown. I don't give a damn if you have the correct deal that makes the most sense for your future and you got people coming. If you trade for Jaylen Brown, you're gonna be right back in the boat in 2 years when he ready to get the hell up out of there. Do not trade for my boy. It's not gonna work. But speaking of my— speaking of my Celtics, before we get out of here, D. White, my boy, look at here. I don't know, this probably has been going on. Like this piss me off in offseason. I don't give a damn about none of this. If it's the opposite— hey bro, can you put some shades on my boy's song? It's too soon. If I go to the bar and they got D. White on the table, right quick, uh-uh.

YL, oh, hey man, get your money, big bro, but we just lost. I don't want to see it yet. Am I tripping? Am I a fan scorn? If I don't want to see this—

You're definitely a fan scorn, but why do they have that cup of Sam Adams on D. White like it's his bicep? Like that's actually an extension of his arm that is like a foamy cup. Like that looks like his shoulder and then his arm comes down. It's terrible. Derek White Ale, the white ale with spices.

Bro, can we change the name? Like, my boy play in Boston. Can we say D-Y-L, or we just gonna go ahead and lean into it? The white L over here, come get you some. And my boy looking like, go ahead, take the picture. Did you take it?

Just— it looks like AI, to be honest with you, right, man?

Salute to Allen Iverson. But that's gonna do it for another episode of the Alley Oop, man. Any last words on the way out of here, sis?

I tried to tell y'all, okay? Don't come at me acting like I don't know hoops. I told you it was gonna happen. This team should have walked to the Finals. They were a 1 seed. The Knicks are vulnerable. They got Mike Brown. You got 60 wins. You let Cleveland come into your crib and get a dub and beat your ass along the way, and it looked embarrassing, and you look disgusting along the way. And you did exactly what I said you were gonna do on the way to me telling you it was gonna happen. So don't ever put disrespect on my name again.

I saw Tristan name come across my phone last night. I already knew what it was.

The Money Mush put money on the Detroit Pistons minus 4.5, plus 1.5, plus 4.5, plus 7.5. Plus 9.5, just to make sure those mugs were dead.

Thank you as always to our sister Miss Rebecca Donahue, as well as the distinguished Dylan Huang. Man, yes sir, man, we love y'all. Thank you as always. And all the listeners out there, bro, without y'all, who the hell are we? Catch us again this Friday on the Libertard Show YouTube. Same bad time, different bad channel.

You dig it? www.allyoopshow.com.