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All right, we're recording it as 8: 30 Pacific Time, Sunday night, just watched a pretty terrible Chiefs Giants game. I think you enjoyed it, though, Cousin Sal. You like when the Giants look terrible.

I like when they look terrible. I like when I actually win a leg on a money line parlay. It's nice. Congrats. Yes. Unfortunately, it's the first leg for next week because I didn't have anything survive this week. But yeah, they're not fun. They're not fun, the Chiefs.

So it was CBS throwback day today? I don't know if you saw the pregame show. No. They had a CBS. They had the guys with hair and outfits like it was in the '70s. They used the graphics from the '70s. Brett Musberger was on there. And then, of course, I had to watch the Patriots who looked like they were from the mid '70s, the team that I fell in love But that went three and eleven and had 50 turnovers in the 1975 season. We had 50 turnovers in 1975, 28 interceptions and 22 fumbles. You'll get there again.

Don't worry.

Yeah. But then it came full circle tonight when our second-round pick, Taekwan Thornton, that we waved, is now the best guy in the Chiefs. I was like, this is it. They really did manage to bring back my childhood. I'm watching old Patriots shine on other teams. My team is not very good. The Chiefs, where do you stand after three weeks other than just being bored?

Well, Taekwons should know that that's not the brand of ball they play. You don't catch long passes. You don't make spectacular catches at the goal line. How dare he? It's 16 play drives that end up with a Butker field goal or a miss or something, and then you grind it out. Is it weird to say I feel bad for the Chiefs because I feel like they're being put in a position they don't want to be in? It's like, Oh, I don't have to be in primetime. It's like asking the wife to fool around. It's like, All right, fine. It's okay. You don't have to be in primed time anymore. We just had to have someone go up against the Giants who's not going to score more than 30 points. So you fit the bill.

Even Collins where it seemed like he was going through the motions.

Yeah.

He tried to get a come off, Patrick, but he was like, I'm just ready. I'm ready for a better game.

I love this Cam Skatebu. I just giggle every time. He's so big and white, Bill.

Skatebu had one block where he just took out the defensive end and that got Collinsworth excited. Funiest possible Mahomes takes that you could sell right now with a shred of truth? I'll start. Go ahead. Clearly not one of the best three QBs anymore. Is it take you could have? You could have it. I'm not saying I believe in Who would you put three?

I mean, everyone loves Alan.

We put Alan Lamar, and then Herbert's been on fire this year. Herbert has made a massive leap, right?

Yeah. I want to see a little more. I like Herbert this year. I agree with you.

I'm just saying there has to be a shred of truth. We You have to make you go do one of those.

How about this? He's a better defensive player than he is quarterback. I mean, he really did that play before the half. That was a 10-point swing and all him.

It was that.

Causing the... Somehow he was the only player out of the 11 who knew that was a backward pass, the only one on his team. And he did it twice. Yeah, right. Then he chased after it and miraculously punched it free and then throws the 50-yard pass interference, which was pretty great, too. It was probably 70 yards.

Yeah, it's funny. This game was close, and it did feel like the Giants were going to get frisky with it and possibly steal it. And then it felt at the end of the half when they didn't get that turnover. The guys were running at it in the end zone. All of a sudden, Mahomes has it again. Then the Chiefs, all of a sudden, they get a field goal and you just felt like, okay. Could you talk yourself into Mahomes? He's only awesome as long as he has a generational tight-end and wide receiver on his team?

Well, I went through the numbers with you last week, right? Like four years ago, it was 28 points a game, and then Tyree killed. It might have been a coincidence, but he just does so much, though. I hate to put it on him because he just does so much. He knows all the angles, how to run for first downs, and how to get hit late. He was actually good today. Yeah, I didn't mind him.

Could you talk yourself on to him? He's a little out of shape, like Luka Donchik? Is there a shred? I don't know. I'm just trying to come up with something. Here's where I landed. When you're starting two-wave Patriots, three-thirds string Running backs and a washed up Hall of Fame tight-end, maybe you're not going to look as good. I think that's probably the right take. He's a little weird on the long balls, I guess, would be the way to ding him. But for the most part, if you If we were going to do the eight teams that can win the Super Bowl, would you have them as one of the eight right now after three weeks? I'll give you four that I think have to be on there. Buffalo, Philly, the Chargers, and Green Bay, I think, despite today. I would put Tampa Bay and the Rams on there, personally, to get to six. I think that seven spot still probably goes to KC, but there's a KC, San Francisco, Detroit, maybe, for the seven, eight. Is anybody else you're excited about?

I put Detroit over them.

You'd put Detroit over KC right now?

Yeah, they're not getting a lot of love at all. I don't really get it.

But we'll see tomorrow night.

Yeah, I guess we'll see.

I accidentally left out Baltimore, so they should be on there. Oh, you did? Yeah. Sorry, Baltimore.

No, did you? Oh, yeah. No, I did. Baltimore is going to win that division by four games. They're ridiculous.

Buffalo Buffalo Chargers, Green Bay, Philly, Tampa, Baltimore, Rams, and then KC, San Francisco or Detroit for the eighth spot, because we always like to have eight, like eight to work with.

The only thing is we've seen them be a seven seed and run the table. Are they much worse than that team?

I would rather bet on them right now than Detroit or San Francisco, mostly because San Francisco seems to have a massive injury every week.

Oh, yeah.

And they It just seem to sneak it for whatever reason. Detroit, we'll see tomorrow night. But yeah, I'm not ready to quit on KC, but I think if they had lost today, that would have been it. We have six 3-0 teams: Buffalo, Indy, the Chargers, Philly, Tampa, and San Francisco. But we have nine, two, and one team. Six of them are in the NFC. Are we at the NFC? It's definitely better than the AFC point of this journey because I feel like it is.

Yeah, I think so. I mean, that north is very solid. Just compare the norths, the East Both East divisions have their issues, right? A team running away with it.

They have one good one and then some- The North, I think the AFC North, despite the Steelers win today, I think it's lacking.

I really do. I said the Ravens are going to win that by four games. I believe that. Whereas if you were to name playoff teams in the NFC North, I'd kick the bears out of there probably now. But any of those other three are solid. And then the Souths.

They have the NFC West. They have nine wins in the NFC West for three weeks already. Then the NFC West is pretty good, too.

Nfc is better, yeah.

We have six 0-3 teams. The Jets, Miami, Houston, Tennessee, the Giants, and the Saints. The Jets and Giants are 0-6. I feel like we've done this segment before, but let's do it again. Go ahead. What was the worst combined record they ever had in a 16-game season? Jets and Giants.

Jets and Giants?

How many wins? If you had to guess. Fanduel number, if I gave you over or under seven and a half, would you go over or under?

Sixteen game schedule? Combined wins. Four. I'll say nine.

So No. There was a bunch of eights. And in 1996, they went seven and 25 combined.

Trying to figure out who the coaches were there.

Is that a Coateight? It might have been a Coateight. Yeah, it could have been...

Hanley, no, I don't know. It was after.

Coslet? Possible Coslet? Yeah, just guessing now. Coslet or Coateye, one of those guys. Then I don't know who for the Giants. Yes, so the Jets Giants, 0 and 6. They're going to switch to DART. That might give the Giants some life. I I feel like the Giants are awful. And the Jets could easily be two and one. So maybe...

They can be. I mean, they just have to pull the Giants. They did a good job pulling them off primed time for the most part. They're not in the Thanksgiving game with Dallas. They're not in a Sunday night game against Dallas, although that was actually entertaining when they played Dallas. And Russell Wilson going into today was like, they had the most passing yards, right? And most long passes. That was because of your stupid team. Yeah, I guess so.

Your team just survived Caleb Williams' career today.

Jesus Christ. He's back.

The guy was getting ready to go to the CFL. Now he's number of pick again.

Some tweet said, Ibraflu has finally developed Caleb Williams. He finally is able to develop.

The worst revenge game of all time. Good God. We'll show you. No.

Russ looked like John Mara pulled him aside at the end and said, I'll give you a million dollars if you could hit the crossbar with a pass three straight times.

Ready?

It was in the same spot all three times.

I don't think anything drives me crazier than the fourth down throw it out of bounds pass. What's worse? You just throw it straight up in the air and have it drop down like a satellite from outer space and you have a better chance than just whipping it out of bounds.

The only pass interference called every two and a half play is, take a shot.

I don't get it. So I'm guessing you didn't do well gambling West today because I had a horrible day. And I'm officially worried about 2025 for me now. We did our over-unders pod. I was telling you, I didn't feel great about this season. It's not going great. I did not have a good day today.

I did not either. We're going to talk a good length, I think, about that Ramsey-Egles game. But when you have, first of all, those early games were just monsters, just really, really bad. And then you like... And I think it's because you have both South. I know we pick on the South divisions a lot, but you have teams that just don't seem like they want to win, like Jacksonville and the Texans and the Titans and the Falcons. So bad. And then the hard attack endings in three of these others, like block kicks, return for touch downs. It's just 1: 00 PM Pacific Time lunacy. But yeah, I was on the wrong side of all of those endings.

My biggest one I got the most wrong was the Falcons in Carolina, which It was really more a bet against Carolina. I thought Carolina was the worst team I saw in the first two weeks. They had that deceiving come back against the Cardinals, but they were really bad. And they came out, they took the lead. They looked very polished. Pennex was an abomination. He just couldn't have been worse to the point you're like, Are they going to bring in Kirk Cousins at halftime? They got shut out by Carolina and Carolina. That's another division where it's like, Who's the... Tampa I can just have a guy go down. Mike Evans went down for them today. I still don't know if anyone challenges them. If Atlanta is going to lose 30 to nothing on the road in Carolina, I'm not taking them seriously.

Tampa is winning some stupid games, too. But I do think when they get everyone back, they're better. Yeah, that was the biggest Panthers win in a decade, and they had 224 total yards. I was thinking, are there too many? I asked ChatGPT, favorites Four or more points that get shut out. Favorites by four or more. And ChatGB basically told me to fuck off. I guess it was busy, but there can't be too many favorites, like mid-range favorites that get shut out.

Look, We knew there was going to be some weirdness. The higher favorites did great the first two weeks. We were texting about it all week. Okay, keep your guard up. Green Bay, that line just stayed specifically at seven and a half, seven all week. The money line was high, but the line was just never as high as it seemed like it should have been. And then that game had all the makings the whole day. Green Bay could never pull away. Love had the really, really bad fourth quarter interception. All of a sudden, Judkins, out of nowhere, wasn't even on the team. When we did our knockout draft, I don't even think he had signed with the Browns yet. I'm not sure anyone even took him or maybe somebody took him late.

No, nobody had him. You chinched him. You said you had the better Ohio State running back. Apparently, that debate has been opened again.

But you just knew how it was going to play out, but it made no sense as you were watching it. It's like, somehow the Browns are going to win this. I have no idea. But then this kicker who we made fun of after week one, Smith, whatever, Sysmet, whatever his name is, and he's got a 55 yard. It's like, of course, he's going to make this. So now Green Bay has a little shine off their Super Bowl. Yeah, definitely. Super Bowl bliss.

Until they beat the Cowboys by 78. Like, wow, we haven't seen that. That's weird. But, yeah, they thought they could sleep walk through this game. And for the most part, they were right. At one point, I saw four offensive linemen were wearing sandals. Is that weird? They don't care. It was a sandals game. But they were hilarious.

You can't even say they were looking ahead the next week because they're playing your terrible team next week. Yeah, that's right. It's not like it's getting ready for the cabri.

Everyone's wearing sandals. But the Browns were hilarious. They had the ball on the two and kept moving backwards. And there was no urgency with four minutes left. And then, I don't know, third and three with three 18. He love throws an interception. It didn't make any sense.

We talked about the Browns both weeks looking a little better than maybe if people didn't watch the game, they would have thought. I thought week one, they should have won. And just in general, they seem relatively competent. And then today, they hung with the packers that whole game. And their defense is top seven defense, top five defense. They're really taking the packers. One thing with the packers, They're missing a bunch of receivers, and it doesn't... I think they never really had a number one, but they had a bunch of number twos. And now it's basically just Golden and Dobbs and Wicks. And then Kraft was playing hurt, and they just didn't have that same explosives. But the Browns, that's not going to be an easy place to win this year. They at least have an identity to know who they are. I wonder if Shadora will see him this year, though. So we're going to average 10 points a game. At some point, got to think about it.

Yeah, I guess so.

Or Gabriel, one of those guys.

Flacko will throw 90 passes in two weeks, right? So this game was a little different. But yeah, any team in the league, you only score 10 points. You're going to give them a chance to... I mean, I thought that leverage call was coming for sure on that field goal. I thought, I was like, here it comes. No way.

Green Bay had 14 penalties, 230 yards total. And I think we can safely say the bandwagon got a little overcrowded.

Yeah.

A little too many. Too many people on there. Who do you have as the favorite right now?

Do they want to give... They can give Micah back if they want.

I mean, that's...

Just flip the trade backwards. Just damaged goods. Favorite to win the whole thing?

Yeah. If you had to make one Super Bowl bet right now, what would it be? You can even say for odds versus who you think is going to actually win, because the favorites right now are Baltimore, Buffalo, and Fandula, five to one.

Right. Is that going to change? I don't think that's going to change unless there's an NFC team that just really comes out in front. Packers had a shot to do that, but I think it's going to be Buffalo, Baltimore. When we get to the lines, you'll see how much these teams are respected. Buffalo didn't look great Thursday night, but I still put them at the top.

They're missing a bunch of dudes.

Yeah, I put them at the top.

Well, you figured they're probably going to be a one seed, especially that division. The Pats, my stupid team, the Jets, the Dolphins. They could go just 6-0. If you go 6-0 in a division, at that point, you just need to go seven and four against everybody else, right? Something like that?

I think that was one of my future bets with you, that they went six and oh, something like that, that they ran the table in the division.

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All right, so it's one of the top eight you named earlier, right?

Yeah.

Okay. I think it's going to be someone who won today. So I'm going to kick the RAMs out of there. I don't think you're going to say nine. All right, the charger is fine. Go ahead.

Yeah, let's do it. That's what it is? I didn't bet on it today because I have so many Denver Futures that it wasn't worth it for me to do it. I really wanted to do the Denver plus three. Now, if you watch the game very close They're only three games. So I watched this entire game, and I thought the Bronco's defense was great. They pressured, they had 29 pressures on Herbert. They sacked him five times, and he was under duress. And it felt like a very even game. And then you look at the stats after, Denver got outgained by 111 yards. The chargers had 29 first downs. Denver had nine. Denver got dominated, but it didn't feel like that when you're watching because they were putting pressure on Herbert. I thought Herbert, he was fantastic in that first game. I thought that last drive, that countdown pass, especially, just fantastic. Mvp-wise, he's down to 6 to 1 now. And I think it's legitimate because he's playing as well as anybody. There's three in their division. And I think what I liked about that game, Sal, it felt like a playoff game. I know Nix didn't play that well.

Nix missed a couple of bombs that he has now figured out how to hit a guy in stride by six inches too far, and it hits their... He'll hit three fingertips but never get the guy in stride. And it's like, oh, he's like the master. So they had plays. Frank would drop one in the end zone. They left stuff on the table. And I thought the Chargers played. They lose Najee Harris. He gets an Achilles thing. I'm rambling. My point is, I thought it felt like a playoff game watching it. I could see that game in January.

It didn't feel like a Chargers game, right? No. Like the 2007 to I think four chargers would have blown that game. No question. And they almost did. They were up 10-0, and Denver came back, and it really looked like the yards were going to come at a premium. They weren't really moving the ball. Like you said, that last drive was really something. That's the Denver defense we've been afraid of. That's the Denver defense you bet all those futures on, right? I'm going to say something else, too. We may have to get rid of one of our favorite jokes, which is chargers fans not showing up to watch the games.

Yeah, that was a good crowd.

Sounded loud, right? I don't think they're pumping noise in. It's really sounded... I usually wait till the next day where I can watch fights in the crowd. They usually pop up on Twitter, and then you scan the crowd. But I think it was pretty good for them.

Herbert, who we've talked about a lot in this podcast, and I've been saying how I'm a results guy. It feels like he's gone up a level, and he's just hitting these little checkpoints down. That drive, I just feel like a year ago, they lose the game. That Johnston is wide open five times a game now. This was a guy who felt like he might be a bust two years ago. Then the Keenan Allen, who they got, felt like pretty late in the summer. It feels like you can hear from him twice a game when they really, really need him and he's going to make a play. I don't know. That team has the look. I wonder what they need. They have Mac, who's going to be out for a couple of weeks. Slater's gone for the year. I wonder, could they get one more offensive lineman maybe during the season. But being 3-0- What are they for the division now?

Because for them to be... For him to win MVP and all that stuff, they have to be a top 13-4.

They just go like 13-4.

Two seed, right? Minus 155.

Well, here's the thing about them in the division. They're 3-0 already in the division. They're 3-0, but they're all AFC West games. So watching them, I think Denver is closer to them than the Chiefs are. But we know, as we talk about every week, we got to wait for Rice and we're ready to come back before we know what we have with the Chiefs. But I've been really impressed. Do they play Baltimore or Buffalo this year? I got to look this up. The Chargers.

Chargers had the second-place schedule.

I'm looking that up right now. They play the Eagles, they play the Chiefs again, play the Broncos again. That's really it. You look at their schedule, the next couple, They're at the Giants, they're home commanders, they're at the Dolphins, and then they have the Colts in week seven. They really could be six and O in that Colts game.

Yeah. If Denver is going to lose dumb games like this, that week 18 game in Denver, which everyone had penciled, circled, might not mean as much. Yeah. I mean, that's easily, had they lost to Denver, then you're looking at the Chiefs or a game behind, and they still have to play. Chargers still have to play the Chiefs in KC, right? Then it's like, oh, man, this is up for grabs. But what did we say it was minus 155?

Yeah, I think those are good odds, especially like... It might be the way to do it. Some of the games that seemed like they were going to be hard, not sure. At Titans, that's not a hard game anymore. At Cowboys, Week 16.

Easy. At Dolphins.

You're going to be like 4 and 11 at that point. At Dolphins, that's not a hard game anymore. Then that at Broncos game, maybe they'll get to the point where they won't have to care about it. But this is the easy stretch of their schedule right now. At Giants, Home Commanders, at Dolphins. And then we'll see with the Colts. We'll see if the Colts are real. But yeah, I thought... And then the other team that I could definitely, we I mentioned them earlier, I thought just the Rams definitely can hang. Now, let's talk about how awful they are.

They can hang. They almost made me hang. Jesus. I mean...

What was it? 26 to 7?

26, 7. That was it. Yeah.

Did you feel like the Eagles could come back? Because I did. At 26, 7? Yeah, I was sitting there going, this is actually maybe what they need to electroshock their system and start doing stuff. But I thought they'd come back. I thought the Rams would score again and the Rams.

I was so locked into the narrative that Jalen Hertz sucks. He can't throw the ball past six yards. No one's catching it anyway. He can only run. He's as good as Barkley goes. And the Rams were moving the ball, too. No, I didn't. I mean, you could have gotten a monster live line on that.

I didn't take it off the multi view.

No.

Yeah, because there was a lot of time. It was 26: 7, but it was early in the third quarter. It was in Philly. I wrote that.

That ending is sick. I feel like everybody... It doesn't seem like online, everybody had that bed ache, that bad beat.

The Rans were one of the most popular picks this week, right? Yeah. Ramps plus three and a half.

That's when 150,000 people claimed they were at Game 6, Red Sox-Mets. But I was like, really? Everybody had this? I know I did. I'll show you. But that ending, does it get any worse than What do you want to talk about the whole game? I don't care.

No, let's talk about the ending first. I wrote down that was a utter pandemonium sportsbook game. You've ever been in Vegas for one of those when it seems like something... And then it's a shift and the guy's running and people are just flying around in the sports, but going crazy. But we have these every year. I think people get amnesia. Really? Yeah, we have at least one of those every year. That's just a completely insane ending.

Let's set the The Rams are getting three and a half points. They're kicking a field goal to win the game.

So they're right in the game or they don't get it and they still cover. Or they don't get it.

So the only thing that screws them is a blocked field goal run back.

And then the guy actually being dumb enough to run it all the way back versus just running out of bounds.

But if I said to you, I'm like, All right, Bill, sit down. Are you seated? The Rams are going to have this kick blocked. Who do you want? Draw me what you want the guy who blocked it to look And you would draw. 280 pound guy. Yeah, I'm like, 280. I said, Okay, how about this? How about he's 520? How about he's 520? You okay with that? He's like, Sure. The game's over by then. This freaking brotherly love butterbean runs it all the way back and kills Another Ringer 107 pick of mine.

Where was the one fast Ram's guy chasing him down from behind? Like the backup safety who's doing the Don Beebe. Yeah. Nobody. There was nobody even in the picture.

I guess it was Eighteen and a half miles an hour, which I wouldn't even know humans really did that. God bless them. I need to get a faster car, I guess. I don't know.

Well, the Eagles, they had to fall behind by 19 to become entertaining. That was very entertaining. That game also felt playoffy. I thought Nakuwa was awesome. Yeah. I mean, and he had the stats, too. He was 11 for 120, something like that. I think he's moved up a level this year for the conversation because we had- What conversation? He's always up there. We had Chase and Jefferson Oh, offensive.

Right.

And then there was a drop off, and then it was like, Nico Collins, and your neighbors, and you could start listening to all these dudes. I think Nekua has to be up there now. Did you look?

I can tell you where he is, odds-wise, on Fandle. For what? Offensive player of the year. Oh, what is he? Isn't that what you're talking about when you say he moves up?

I'm just talking best receiver.

Oh, I see.

Because poor Chase is stuck with the backup now for three months. Jefferson is stuck with Carson Wentz.

The coup is third at plus 750. Derrick Henry plus 650. Jonathan Taylor plus 500 because he just is just racking up insane numbers. Derrick Henry?

Yeah. How's he in there?

Well, he had two touch downs first week, and then last week he took off.

I'm surprised Taylor's odds aren't even lower because he's been the most dynamic. Really? Yeah, he's been awesome. Every game, he's done one or two things. I also think Smith and Jigba, he's 25 to win that. That's not bad. I would probably nudge that one up.

Jamal Chase just gone, not giving him a chance. How could he? 30 to 1. Jefferson 2, same there.

That's one where I feel like we could see that game again in January, Eagles's Ramps.

Yeah.

We could be running that one back.

Sure. It was great last January, too. I'm just pleased. Don't get me on that result again. That was terrifying.

I forgot to ask you on Chargers Broncos, where are you with Bo Nicks right now?

It's tough because- I feel like I've watched every Snap of the Broncos this season.

It just has not been consistent.

No, definitely not. I like the Oregon guys. At all. So it was Nicks. I watch Nicks a lot. Herbert, that was fun watching them go at each other. He does seem to take charge, and he has good control. When he calls his own number and runs the ball, I was like, wow, that's good. He looks like a fourth-year quarterback. But I also I don't think people gave him too much credit last year. That defense was so dynamite. That's what kept him in a lot of these games. But yeah, he is off from last year.

Yeah, he's just not as accurate. He had a great play in the fourth quarter. He had a scramble, and it was third and 12, third and 13. There were people in front of him, and it seemed like he was going to either slide or get tackled. He made a move, and he somehow got right to the line. You saw the whole sideline explode, the Bronco sideline. You know I always love that. It felt like moment. It felt like, Here we go. Bo Nicks is finally showing up for the season.

Somehow they- No, I think he's taking the CJ Stroud approach. Have a memorable rookie year, and then everyone's like, What the fuck? What is going on with this guy?

Yeah. Wait, we should talk about CJ. I'll skip ahead of that game. Jaguar 17, Texans 10. This is one of the only games I got right. Jaguar's defense, I continue to think, might be pretty good, even though the bangles scored some points on them. But they They can rush a passer. They seem to get turnovers. And then on the flip side, Houston's offense now, 38 points in three games. Today was a little unlucky because Collins had a really bad fumble with four minutes left. It felt like Lawrence threw a terrible pick. They had a lead. Bad Lawrence pick. It was like Jaguar's karaoke. Houston long pass to wide open Collins, tied. Jaguar's, they give up the ball back. Texans coming down. Then that Collins fumble, and then all of a sudden, all And then that was it. We came flying back the other way.

Yeah. When we go over the worst teams in the league, we won't include the Texans, but that offense has been real atrocious. Going in, they were last in points scored, and right there again, right? And like, fourth to last in yardage. He threw 38 times, which is a lot when most of it is in catch-up time, right? And he couldn't break 185. So there were lots of drops, actually. I don't know why I find defending Trevor Lawrence all the time. They were like five drops on the Lawrence side.

Thomas was bad for three hours and then made the biggest play of the game.

1710 sounded right in a game that nobody wanted.

I don't know what happened to Thomas. I wrote in my notes, he seems like he's in some sports movie where it's the part where they're playing sad music and before they come back and become the hero again. When Rod Tidwell, that part, Jerry when he's just, he's filming the commercial and Jerry's yelling at him, and then we just see him get the shit kicked out of him and it's all headed to an urban football. He just seems like he's in a major funk. I was reading about, I think most of my fantasy teams, and I was reading about it this week. And it's the most polarizing topic with the Jaguar fans because most of them are like team Lawrence, and a lot of them are blaming Thomas for he's dogging routes, he's not catching stuff. He can only run one type of... He can either go deep or just do a deep cross, and that's it. He can't catch the ball over the middle. But, yeah, they're a mess. And yet, I'd rather be them than Houston.

Yeah.

Houston can't block. Houston, unless that Woody Marks can turn into something a running back, they have no running backs. They spent two second-round pics on receivers, and they have nobody who can block. And then Stroud doesn't look like the guy from two years ago.

No. Now, they have some relief. They play the Titans at home. But no, I would not want to be the Texans right now. That's a lousy team. I don't know. As far as Jacksonville goes, Lawrence has his awful moments, too. But he had to think Travis Hunter was going to work out, right? And he had to think Brian Thomas wouldn't drop three balls a game. So that offense, I think, has a chance to get going. I don't know about the Texans. We love Nico Collins, but I feel like he may have to do it all.

Well, here's the other thing. There's three back in the AFC South already. I mean, nine and eight might get a seven seed, so they'd still have to go nine and five the rest of the way. Their schedule is not that hard, but 38 points in three games.

I can't even imagine how much money you're going to put on a money line parlay with them to beat the Titans to start.

I don't know. I might scale back until I get a better feel for this season. Yeah. Today was not great. The Colts killed the Titans. I had a little on the Titans money line and immediately regreted it. Not a lot, just a little. Colts still have not punted. Is that true? Yeah, you're right. Only one other team has gone three and own punted less than five times, and it was the 2007 New England Patriots. So on Tennessee first, there were fire Callahan chance. They've had 31 penalties in three weeks. They did a whole bunch of dumb shit again. But I really want to hone in on what happened in the end of the first half. Do you watch this game or do you have it on multiple?

Yeah, had it.

It was fourth and one. They're in the 39-yard line with 46 seconds left in the first half. Indy calls time out because they want to get the ball back. The time out ends, and Callahan is still deciding whether he wants to do a field goal or not. They get to delay a game after a time out, and the field goal goes from 57 to 62, sly misses, Indianapolis ends up driving down and getting a field goal. So Callahan says after, I hadn't decided yet at the moment what we're going to do. We were going back and forth and wanted a minute to think about it. I was going back and forth between the fourth down call on the field goal and decided to go take points. Then took situation. And the operational part of it, to kick it on time, didn't happen. They were coming out of a time out that they didn't even call.

This guy's terrible.

House calls him Dumbo on my Thursday pot every week. Might be offensive to Dumbo. He hates him.

He's the worst ever.

Well, we might have a new entry to the first coach fired.

Yeah.

Because McDaniel, Buffalo really had to work to beat Miami on Thursday night. I thought Miami fought.

Right.

Tennessee is not fighting for that pitch.

That Miami's Drive in the second quarter to end the second quarter was as good as you'll see all year. But Callahan, it's funny because Callahan was the name of the tires. Wasn't that Tommy boy? Callahan tires. Can Chris Farley go around trying to save Callahan's job?

Can that be our nickname for him, Tommy boy? Tommy boy. His name's not Tommy.

He's the father that had a heart attack in the third scene.

His thing with the field goal and the delay of game, that was when Tommy Boy was doing the demonstration for the guy and he set his desk on fire. He was like, You guys over there puking his guts out.

Get out. That's Callahan. Do you value that?

Anyway, well, then the other thing is, came more and started the game with a pick six. It was like a really awful... I'm going to just stare you down and then throw it. On the positive side, The Colts 3-0. Daniel Jones, apparently, has down the nickname Indiana Jones.

I hate it.

I heard the NBC guys talking about that in the pregame show. That's why I hate it. Jason Garrett really enjoyed it. He started humming song. And I don't know, I can get there with it. I was there.

No, don't you do it now, too. But no, it's fine. Tate and I were talking about, Is it the best nickname? There's so many great nicknames in the NFL, and I was all behind it. And then exactly, I had it just written down, Jason Garret starts singing the song and calling them Indiana Jones.

What was the song? How does the song go?

Isn't it... I just sing Star Wars. Whatever. I don't need Jason Garret singing or speaking.

No, I just said that's Star Wars.

That is?

Hold on. Yeah, hold on. We got to get this right. Let's get it right. Thank God we're not going live on YouTube today. The Raiders theme song. Now we're going to get blocked on YouTube. The Raiders song is Hold on. I got Raiders, Lost Ark. Why am I... We did it- Yeah, it is.

I got it right.

This is John. Yeah, we did get it right. That's it. Yeah. I don't know why I was blanking. Colts, do you believe yet?

I believe they can win that division, right? We're not excited about anybody else, but yeah, that'll be... I'm looking long and hard at them as the team I'm going to bet against in the playoffs. Sure.

Shakeies? They're at Rams, Home Riders, Home Cardinals, at Chargers. The funny thing is, they killed the Dolphins, but they should have lost to the Broncos and then deserve to beat the Titans. But, you know. Well, they're getting all- The leverage call gets called. They're two and one. We're not as excited.

The individuals are getting all the love on Fandil. John and Taylor, as I mentioned, offensive player of the year, favorite, Steiken plus 380, coach of the year. I would have thought Daniel Jones would be... This is not right. He's third for Comeback Player of the Year. I thought they were going to give him that award next week when he comes to LA.

Well, what did he come back from? Just being terrible?

I guess that's it.

I guess we went through this with Flacko that time. Can you come back from something if- All it was was being in that.

He's Indiana Jones. You have to give him the award.

I like that Trevor Lawrence is fourth. Who's betting? Did Trevor Lawrence come back? Did I get the memo?

Right.

It's 17 points today.

Well, Dak, McAfree, those two are both ahead of Daniel Jones right now. I guess you're right. It's what you come back from, McAfree.

Two is 100 to one. Probably would recommend no on that one.

Yeah.

Well, I think you're right. What are the Colts division odds now? They're almost two to one, right? Yeah. Oh, no.

Minus 135. All right, if you parlay that in the chargers.

It's like a trap.

Who screws you? You almost get two to one there.

Yeah, one of those teams are going to be the Rabbit team. I would do... I I feel like the Jags can be heard from. I know that's crazy, but I like some of the pieces with them, and I think their coach isn't bad.

That was my preseason team to win, so I have to stay with it. I'm just trying to see if the Colts, if it ever gets hard for them here. At the Rams, home for the Raiders, home for the Cardinals, at the Chargers. That's a fun game. And Titans, Steelers, Falcons.

It's always seemed like- I'm just mad at myself because July and August, I didn't want to pick the Texans. I couldn't come up with another team. I wanted to short the Chiefs. I didn't have the balls. And then thought it was going to be the Broncos, and I had the wrong team.

These south divisions ruin our summers. We spend much too much time trying to figure out who's going to win. And then our families are growing up and we're missing it all.

It doesn't make sense that Daniel Jones was that bad last season unless it's just a two-year injury. Because he was completely awful last year. Speaking of awful, Niners Cards was a pretty awful game. The Niners were going to win, and then turned into Mac Jones through a terrible pick to get the ball back. There's a safety involving Mac Jones. It wasn't his fault. Holding penalty. At that point, you realize Niners one and a half is going to be dust because it's 15, 13, card dust. I was struggling before the beginning of the day to do Niners' minus one and a half or Niners' money line, which is minus 120. I was like, I'll just do the minus one and a half. When is teams ever? When are they ever win by win? Well, then they come down. Mac Jones leads a game-winning drive in the Cardinals. I want to blame Kyla Murray or Gannon, but the reality is third to nine, they ran a great pass to Zay Jones, and he just couldn't hold on to it.

That was the high one he went up for and he didn't come back.

I guess if you're going to ding them, it's like you ran the play of the game for Zay Jones.

Well, Here's who you could blame. This was a rat line, and I lost on this, too. So I'm not going to pretend to be an expert. But this was a rat line. It was one and a half, right? The tic-tac, the one we hate. No one had a good thing to say about Arizona this week. They're lucky to be two and all. They had injuries all over the place. And this line could not move past San Francisco one and a half. And the gambling God says, I know what we'll do. We'll have them win by one point. And everyone, like Bill, will have them minus one and a half. And Mac Jones, that was pretty remarkable taking them down the field there.

And he was hurt. He was on one leg.

And you get caught for it. He was limping around. You got a safety. That's insulting. That's really hard to come back from. I know it wasn't his fault, but that's like getting slapped in the face with the white glove. And he just shook it off. It came all the way down and won that. Yeah. Actually made a field goal.

And they lost Bosa early in that game. They had a bunch of plays in the red zone and inside the 10. And I thought that Cards defense really rose to the occasion. I don't know why the Cards defense is as frisky as it is because it's not like it's loaded with all pros, but they made a bunch of plays. Connor going down flipped the game a little bit for them because I actually think they probably win if that doesn't happen. But I thought the coaching on both sides, I thought some of the red zone stuff with the Niners was really bad. Arizona, when Murray is coming out and around, when you're betting against the cards, I'm just always worried of him rolling out when they need first downs. Then they get away from that. It's like, Oh, you're just going to go back and try to hit somebody on third and nine. I don't love the whatever. I thought Trey McBride was terrifying.

Good throw to him in the end zone. Yeah, that helped.

But the teams were pretty close, though, was my takeaway from that game. The Cardinals were a little better than I was prepared for. And the Niners just winning that game with Mac Jones, I thought was pretty good. The Niners are free and out.

But are they going to lose? And they beat... Was that all three NFC West teams they beat? Wait, no. Yeah.

They're two of them.

The Cardinals in Seattle, they beat. Yeah, right. And New Orleans was the other. Yeah. They is going to lose someone big every week, though? That's the problem. That's the issue. We know they're not deep. They pay seven guys, 80% of the budget there. So I'm not sure how many more injuries they can afford.

I mean, McAfee for eight. That play in the end on the last drive, there's just nobody better than him. You know they're going to do the dump off pass to him. They do it anyway, and he's flying off. Their defense is a little better than I thought it was going to be, considering they had so much turnover, considering they lost seven, eight guys. But I think seven kids now is helping them, or now he has eight kids. All right. What's that division?

Minus 105?

I wouldn't touch that. We have a three and O team and three, two and one teams?

Yes, that's right.

You want to talk about your team or my team?

We're going to hit both of them. Let's do your team. And then maybe we'll forget about mine.

Fumbled four times.

Yeah.

Inside the five-yard line, we had a tip pick that the quarterback just should have lofted it. It's the easiest breakdown ever and just tries to throw a straight line for some reason. But I think reason is because it seemed like he got mildly concussed two plays earlier, and they don't even stop it. They don't have... I thought they had these concussion spotters. He hits his head backwards. He's holding his head. And then two plays later, throws a terrible tip thing. Ramondre fumbles twice. It's an all-time murder. I don't think we'll see him again. The Pats have five turnovers and 26 first downs. I don't remember that stat ever. Last three quarters, they outgained Pittsburgh 349 to 101, and they lose by seven. And it was a fucking absolute gut punch over three hours. I hated it.

Yeah. Ogly, ugly, ugly.

We're definitely better than that team.

I think so, too. But five turnovers I mean, the Stealers didn't even do a great job. Imagine only scoring 21 points. The other team is five turnover. Roger has made a couple of good throws, but 139 yards. They had 203 total yards, like you were alluding to. It just doesn't seem like a Vrabel team, though, right? With all the turnovers. But even going for it on fourth down. I know they were four for five. He goes for it the least on fourth down. I know he-We went for it on our own 15. Yeah, right. It's just a different coach, different every Everything in a different discipline.

I think May is incredibly talented, and 90% of the game he had today was great. But one play a half, he does something stupid. Like the tip pass, touch down, that's It's his fault. He can't make that play. And then the other one was in traffic. I don't know what he's trying to do, but he loses it and he fumbles. He's just trying to do too much, and sometimes I'll put the ball on the ground, and he's got to figure out how to not have those two plays a game. He's young. He's 22. But I think when he's moving around on the sides and he's lightning fast.

He's not too young for me to give him a nickname that you're not going to love.

Okay, let's I'm ready for it. He probably deserves it.

Drake, maybe. You got to say like, Drake, maybe. He may be good. I don't know. Is this an even week or an odd week? That's so good.

I'm never going to call him that, but that's really good. Okay. It's just a really good nickname.

It's Drake, maybe. I'm sorry. We haven't done my team yet. There's plenty of names you can call them.

I feel like that might stick unless he can shake it.

Come on, maybe. Let's do it. Have some fun out there, kid.

Just don't have your one terrible play half. I'm a complete believer. I have an incredible amount of drink based on it, but he just can't help it.

Yeah.

Man. Maybe. That's tough.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

Rodgers can only do two things at this point. He can do the quick back pedal, quick throw that's either like a short wide receiver pass or a tight-end three yards in front of him. And he can do the three-step drop, quick back shoulder, 20-yard throw. And he can't do anything else. If you're pressuring him, he's just going to get rid of the ball. I was not impressed by him. I didn't think he was very good today, but he did enough to hang around and get 21 points.

You made things extraordinarily easy for them. Just barely top 200 total yards. Couple big.

Any incompletion, doing this for the flag. And then he got three of them. It was a very frustrating game. I can't believe that Jake may a nickname. Unbelievable.

I shouldn't have said it to you. I feel like a bad friend now.

Jesus, why don't you come up with a nickname for my kids now?

Okay, I'll work on it. Maybe.

Oh, my God. I still believe. All right, you're a stupid team. You survived Caleb's career. He had a massive fantasy day. Your defense has given up 12, 25-yard plus pass plays in the last two games.

Yeah.

You fell for the worst flea flipper I've ever seen.

It's still hanging in the air.

It was like an alley hoop.

Yeah. It was like flicking a feather. That's the fl... Yeah, it just never came down. I'm a cowboy's friend, Tex chain, and we're trying to remember if this is the worst defense we've seen in decades. And it really might be. It really might be. There was the Nolan. There was a couple of bad ones. But I mean, 385 yards in 57 plays. I did a little math. That's seven yards of play. And it seemed like so much more. And the fact that does everyone just embarrass their old coordinator? Ben Johnson was embarrassed by Detroit. Should we keep this in mind for gambling purposes? Chicago embarrassed Abra Fluss. So congrats. You gave Caleb Williams his best game since he was a sophomore at USC. I hate it.

I hated it. But Dunsey is good. I think he's definitely made a leap up this season. Yeah. Right. Luther Bird and the Flea Flucker, he's over by 15 yards. Yeah.

Yeah. And Kenny Clark, who we got from Micah Parsons, he's out, he came back. Trayvon Diggs. I don't even know who's good anymore, honestly. I get bummed if these guys are out. But we are going to be exciting, though. You're going to see a lot of the same game over and over.

The problem is as soon as CeeD Lamb went out, the game was over. Yeah, right. Because you have this You're a top-heavy team. You already traded Parsons. Now you just have Dak and CeeD. You take him out. There were guys I've never heard of.

Which your record going to be? And Pickens is good. Pickens is all right, right? He's a very solid number two. If CeeD could stay on the field, then Javante Williams, he fumbled. But that's been a surprise, too. So what's our record going to be?

What's your record going to be? Fando has the regular season wins.

They have it up already, huh?

Wow. You can go under six and a half wins is plus 120.

Yeah, I think 6 and 11 is right.

Under five and a half is plus 220.

I mean, I'd have to find five wins for them. I don't know. I don't think they're there. Five more?

Is CeeD going to be hurt for a couple of weeks there?

He says he's playing Sunday. He says he's going to play.

Miami under four and a half wins is plus 165.

It's pretty good, too.

Under five and a half is minus 120. Are they getting to six wins, the Miami Dolphins?

Do you want to wait on that? They're home for the Jets on Monday night.

For them to get to six wins, that means they're six and eight the rest of the way. Is that team going six and eight?

No.

I have so many Miami Futures already that I can't put more on it.

Against them. Yeah.

But don't worry, I'll give it all back with Denver.

You know what's great with Tua? Yeah. First of all, he throws like he has a bomb attached to his chest. I know exactly where the Timer is, and I got to get rid of it. But there were quarterbacks.

He's throwing it in the ocean.

Yeah. Jimmy G, who are the guys who would throw the hospital balls? Like even Payton towards the end of his career. Jaymus.

Payton is great.

He does this He does it with runningbacks. I've never seen it with runningbacks before, but he'll have Achan flaring out, and that's clearly the option, but doesn't get him the ball for a good five Mississippi count. And then he just gets blown up in the backfield. He's throwing these passes for minus yards. It's remarkable what he's doing, Tua.

He also does this Jedi mind trick on the announcers because he seems like he's in command. At one point, Herb Street is like, I really like what I'm seeing from Tua. He's got command of this game. He was like four yards of throw. Right. He was like 30 attempts for 118 yards. Herb Sheets praising him. Then he throws a interception and triple coverage to end the game. But there's something about the rhythm of how he plays that you feel like it's going better than it actually is. Then you look at the stats, you're like, oh, this is going terribly.

He had the one great drive at the end of the second quarter, and that was it. Otherwise, it's Tiree Kill has his issues, too. But he's basically hugging the goalpost and 70 yards behind them to just completed a three-yard pass. I'm not going to keep doing this.

Three blowouts. Washington killed the Raiders. Digg is taking Genti at 6 is starting to look a little gamey. When you think like, Membo and the Jets and the right tackle or the left tackle, the Saints took Banks. And then the Raiders can't block. Vikings, bangles was a blowout. Five, bangles, turnovers, two for TDs. The biggest thing with this is, Chase was going first in some weeks. He was certainly He's the first wide receiver, but in auctions, he was in the '50s.

Sure.

In any snake draft, he was one, two, or three. I don't know. If we were doing fantasy drops over again, I don't think he's one of the top eight or nine pips without Burrow.

It's Jake Brown. And there was way too much- But it's a fantasy murder. Oh, yeah, for sure. I felt Jefferson's in the same boat. But there was a ton of Jake Browning love this week. You would have thought it was Jake from State Farm, the way the football Well, pundits were just going on and on about him. And what did he do? He was 19 for 27, 140. He's bad. Two interceptions.

I had that game on the multi-view for a while, and there were a few showing him on the sidelines, and it was a little deer in the headlights Now, granted, he's in Minnesota. They're blitzing them. They're doing all this stuff.

Don't you have two multi views going? There were nine games in the early sleep.

I settled on... I had the four. Then I had a split So I had two on one TV, and then I had Ram's Eagles on the other TV. So I had seven. I just punted on two games. I didn't watch Commander's Raiders at all.

But why? I thought that was the one I dropped.

Whatever the blowout game. I got rid of that immediately. I never watched that again.

Why doesn't... Maybe I'm the only one who wants this, but even Direct TV had the eight box. Come on, YouTube. You can get that going. Or six or something. Six is not bad.

The problem with Red Zone is I hate when the Red Zone is ahead of the game.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sometimes Red Zone and they'll show it, but then it's like behind in the box that I've been watching. You have to switch your gaze and everything. So I'll get rid of it. Seahawks Saints, nothing happened there other than the Seahawks might have the makings of a top five defense. I'm not saying they're a top five defense, but there's some meat in that dish. And there's a Darnold Gino Seesaw right now where week one, Oh, Gino. Darnold. And now it's Darnold and Gino's way down here, and I just feel like it's going to keep doing.

For P. Carroll. Turned 74 on Monday. That's not a great six days.

So maybe old coaches, maybe this isn't a good thing to have a coach in your mid-70s because you watch Carolina and Belichick and then P. Carroll. Maybe there's a shelf life, which we could have told people because we've watched it happen with our own dads.

Of course. And we get excited because they were one and oh, right? It'll be your team. You didn't get too excited. But then Carroll's chewing gum faster than you've ever seen before, doing pushups with the defensive line and stuff. Like, oh, this guy, he's 36. It doesn't matter. But it's the team. I think you're right. Chenty maybe wasn't the right pick.

It was a luxury pick for a team that was five, six players away.

Yeah, that's it. That's exactly it. You get that running back when you're a playoff team. You do it when you're the chargers.

You take Hampton because you're close. You have a lot of talent. All right, we'll take a break. We'll do guest lines. All right, because week four, you beat me first two weeks. I beat you last week. Thursday night, Cards Seahawks. It's in Arizona. And I think this is a good game. I'm actually relatively excited to see what happens in this one. It'll be a defensive affair. I put this in the tic-tac zone, Cardinals by one and a half.

Man, I put it in a tic-tac zone, too. But I thought Seattle will be by one and a half. You actually nailed it. It's the Cardinals at home by one and a half. I guess that makes sense because San Francisco couldn't pull off a three or two against them. I don't know. I think Arizona maybe slaps them around a little in a stupid game, but I don't know.

We have an Ireland game.

Oh, you knew it.

I'll always have to fuck you on this. Well, I only knew it because the Ringer fantasy guys are going there. They need to mind their business. Actually, we're doing some shows, and that's how I found out. Yeah.

You're writing a check for them to get on a plane. I'm writing a check so I can remember that there's an Ireland game.

I was thinking today, I actually, I don't know if it wore me down. But now I wish we had more 6: 30 in the morning Pacific games. I could use one today. I woke up because I was in Boston for a long time and I came back and I was just up at 6: 30. I'm like, I wish we were in London right now with the Jags and the Browns just watching some terrible football.

Can I sell you on 7: 00 AM? I know if it's over time, it overlaps with the early and nobody wants that.

To throw in, have a little multi-view action?

Well, it's just 7: 00 AM and not 6: 30. 6: 30, I feel like a degenerate, like a bad father and husband and everything else. 9: 30, East Coast. Yeah, I know.

07: 00 is okay. You can sell me on 07: 00.

Okay, let's do that.

I have Steelers and a Pick 'Em. I have this as an actual Pick 'Em. Steelers, Pick 'Em, Vikings.

I don't know who gets it. I guess you do. I said Steelers minus two. It's Vikings minus one and a half.

Oh, great. That was really well played by me.

I don't know. I guess that's right. I don't know, man. Rodgers. Mccarthy will be out, right?

From what I saw today from that Stealers team, this should be a nice matchup for the Vikings defense, but who knows?

Yeah.

Sunday Marquee, Ravens Chiefs in Kansas City. It's sad to make the KC. We keep complaining about how we're tired of watching them, and yet they're clear in the Marquee game in this. This will be a good game.

Right.

I have the Ravens favorite in this game, and I have the Ravens favorite by two and a half.

Come on. Is this how it's going to be? I said two, and I thought I was a genius. I'm like, oh, people are going to say... Bill is going to say Kansas City's favorite. It's three. So you get it.

Jesus.

They love Fandle Vegas. They love the Ravens. Love the power ranking.

It's tough when the Chiefs are trotting out two guys, the pats wave as they're starting receiver. It just It's like, they're the starting receiver, Jujutsch Smith-Schuster and Taekwan Thornt. It's like, everyone said how terrible our receivers were. We weigh both of those guys.

It's not great. Yeah, they're chips. Well, if the Ravens give up 35, 40 to Detroit, I don't think they will tomorrow. And then we'll know that's pretty much their defense, right? Yeah. Two good teams are doing that to them. But I think it's a fair line.

I have four watchables, starting with the Eagles at Tampa. And Mike Evans had his annual ham string injury, which in our league that weren't together, the knockout league, I, of course, have Mike Evans. Oh, yeah. Who always goes $10 less than he should because Nobody wants to have him when he has the injury and he's gone for four weeks. But then the price hit a point where I was like, I'm just taking him. I'll get 10 good weeks out of him. Well, the ham string injury happened.

He'll get to 1,000 yards. He always does. It'll happen. Even if he needs 880.

I'll have him for the playoffs. Worfs is coming back, and apparently Godwin is coming back, too. We forgot to talk about that game, which is my fault. Tampa has now had three game-winning drives. They're 3-0 with three game-winning drives.

He's so exciting. He is so damn exciting, Baker. He just makes shit happen. He's great. He is. I didn't even think Tyrod Taylor was bad. He threw a costly pick six with 20 seconds left and a half, and that ended up being the the difference. But I think like, bowls's screwed up and let the Jets back in it. And then their guy was the only one to make a field goal in that early slot, and they won.

I think he's become my favorite non-Patriots QB to watch. Because it's always exciting. The other team's always dropping interceptions that he's throwing them or he'll make some great play. He'll start talking shit to people. At the end of games, you always feel like he can come through. I don't know. I He makes sense on that team, too.

Well, not that everyone needs a nickname, but he's like a 1: 00 PM savior, right? He's always alive in the fourth quarter.

King of the multi-view.

Yeah, right. Just that early slate that normally sucks. You can count on him.

Yeah. So I have Eagles minus two and a half.

All right. I got to make a comeback here. I don't know if I can. I said Eagles one. That was dumb. It's three. Two three and O teams. Let's do it.

Also, two minus threes. We haven't had a lot of those in guest lines. Falcons home for Washington. No idea if Jaden Dan is just playing. I think the Falcons are going to be one of these teams that there's the home Falcons line, and then there's the road Falcons line. We don't have a lot of these. I have Falcons minus one and a half.

Man, I could have stole this from you, but my guess was even worse. I said Falcons minus two and a half. It's Washington minus three. Whoa. Okay. They're five and oh. I guess it's two and a half now. Either way, you get it.

Wow. What do you think the reason is for that?

I don't know. And it's... This is Mariota.

Just because the Falcons were so bad?

Yes.

No, but it's Mariota, though, unless we hear differently. So they must think Daniels is coming back.

Washington, I guess they had that game in hand, but they give up some big plays, too. Trey Tucker is still scoring 50-yard countdown as we speak. Yeah, that's a weird one.

Well, we have three home dogs already. Just pointed that out. Rams.

I don't know.

Rams home for the Colts. I really wanted to do Ram's by three on this, but I think the Colts get a half point of respect, so I went Ram's minus two and a half.

Okay, I got this exactly. It's three and a half.

Not a lot of respect for that.

I wish I wasn't so angry at the Ram's because I would be all over this. I might still, but I don't know. I don't know if I can forgive. I don't know.

I know we talk about this every year, but the worst game we beat of all time was the Music City miracle. I think we decided this 10 years ago. Yeah. That was number one because it was a playoff game.

Right. Yeah.

It not only swung it, but it also swung the line. Wasn't it? It was Buffalo by five or something. Right. Yeah. So not only they lose, but I don't think the miracle...

I think it was an LA miracle that I didn't have money on it here at my home. I think that's why I didn't earn as much.

Niners, Jaguars. I assume Brock Purdy, but the Niners have had a bunch of injuries. I don't know why I went low on this, but it felt the right thing to do. Niners minus three and a half.

Oh, you jerk. I thought you were going go even lower. I said four. It is three and a half.

Oh, man. This is a good sign for my gambling when I'm on it with the lines.

Good for you.

Maybe I'm finally in my shit together. That's a fair line because there's backdoor, touch down potential with the Jags.

The stupid Jags could have been three and oh. How do they blow that bangles game? Kind of dumb.

Fairly watchables. Lion's home the Browns. I just don't think the Browns can be a double-digit underdog anymore. I went nine and a half for this. That was as high as I wanted to go.

Wow, you are just edging me out. I thought they could be a double-digit underdog. I had 10, and it's eight and a half.

You got it. Their defense is too good. I don't think you can spot them that many points.

But if Detroit loses, this can't be a game that they screw around with, right? If they lose tomorrow.

This is...

All right. Well, we'll talk. We'll talk.

Listen, we always try not to overreact after three weeks, but that Browns team seems like... I was reading some of the quotes after. It's an adult team. It's weird. Flacko was talking about, We went all week. We just talked about playing complementary football, complementary football.

Adult team.

For three hours, we played complementary football, and that's why we won. It's like, Well, that's an adult explanation, Joe Flacko. But yeah, they play defense. They don't beat themselves. They can run the ball a little bit with Judkins now. Their offensive line is okay.

They have a couple of half decent receivers, and they get stops on defense.

They've done this now. They held the bangles to 17 with Burrow.

I can't believe this.

I'm just saying. They held the bangles to 17.

They could have been shut out today.

And they held the packers to 10.

Yeah, that I saw. The defense is good. I don't know. Like I said, Flacko is throwing 100 times, and they end up with 17 points at the end.

I'm not defending that. Okay, here is the, let's be careful out there, game of the Week. Chargers at the Giants. After what we saw today, I don't see how this is in at least chargers by six. And I'm going to say chargers by six and a half at the Giants. Oh, good.

Okay. You left the door open there. I said five. It's five and a half.

Vegas owned us.

I'm not Yeah, three and over, so on three. I don't know. It's only an hour since we saw how miserable they were. But this is not... If this game was like a December second, I'm like, Oh, chargers are going to get tripped up. I don't have that feeling right now with them.

What do we call week 4? Is the makeup mirror week?

The makeup mirror?

Yeah, you know those mirrors that our wives have when you turn the light on and you can see all the things on your face, just everything. It's like the crazy microscope view of your face. This is it. I feel like week four, we know what the weaknesses are.

It's the cool of the mile, yeah.

With the Chargers, Hampton, really, they're only running back now that Harris is out. Offensive line, just shaking off that the Giants could probably pressure Herbert and do some stuff. Chargers on the road. This is a game that Chargers should win, but it's very similar to that Packers-Browns game. It's like, Oh, if you're a really good team, you should win this, and then you I guess so.

I think Russ is... If that defense plays like they did against... Who did they play on Monday night last week? What was that? They played the Raiders.

I don't know.

I don't think Russ is going to be able to move this ball too much.

Do we see Russ?

You think this is where they switch it, huh?

I would do it. I thought when Dart came in for those little options stuff, they were immediately more dangerous for me because of his self-autism. I would do it. I don't know what they're waiting for.

The fans are booing because they drafted a number one. They have a first round or the quarterback. No, they're booing because this is New York. This is what they're doing. This is what they do.

Mike, he came right in. He made friends with everybody. See, he loves being on the practice squad. They just love Jackson Dart.

He might have set a Pash-Rush record tonight. I think I heard 25 when I wasn't even paying attention.

They had that all-22 camera. Yeah. They were showing how Abdul Carter was like combo spy assassin. That's great. Where he was rushing, but also ready to be the spy. I've never seen a defensive lineman used that way. It was really interesting how they used it because usually that's just a pure linebacker.

Now I want to look for a defensive rookie of the year. They might not have it up.

He's a beast.

He's right there.

That kid in the Niners has a chance, too. What are the odds for defensive rookie of the year?

I'm not seeing it now. They only have offensive up right there.

Yeah, they took it down because they knew we were going to talk about it. Next one. Texans, Titans. I can honestly say I might skip this for the multi-view or even like any TV next week.

No, you're going to have too much money on them. You're not going to skip us.

On money on who? I'm not bet in this game.

On the Texans. No. This is their season. That's it. They're a cross-off for the division.

For the division heads, yeah. It's in Houston. I'm going to say Texans by five and a half.

All right, I get this. I said six and a half. It is seven and a half. Do I have a chance? That's seven, three, your winning.

Come on. Who's laying that many points for the team that can't run the ball or score?

Well, you get a free six with Cam.

I guess they are going against Tommy Boy.

Right. Tommy Boy.

New guy's puking his guts out.

Fat guy with a little coat. Don't do it, Tommy No, Tommy Boy. The Titans need you.

Raiders' Bears. Wow. Somebody's favorite by one and a half. Where is this? I'm going to say it's in Vegas. I'm going to say Vegas by one and a half.

Damn, you got it. You got it. I said two. One and a half? Vegas, exactly. One and a half. Yeah. Both one and two.

Kind of a kitchen sink game for the Raiders.

Someone's going to win and people are going to talk about the winner being in the playoff contention. Can we write that down that we're not going to be that one of those people.

Yeah, let's not do that. I do have something, speaking of the Raiders and Tom braided, because I had Tom braided for a decent chunk of the game because he was doing one of the late games. J. J. Watt was so much better than him as an announcement. J. Watt was fucking fantastic. It's very good. Have you actually listened to one of his... That was the first time I'd heard because he did Stea or his Pats.

Yeah, he's excellent.

He was just awesome. He was laying out, he was immediately picking out whatever it happened on the line for every single play. Whatever happened, he was like, Well, you know what? They missed that, but the right tackle missed it, and that, and they didn't chip him. But it was all very accessible. He's not that funny. There's not a massive sense of humor with him. So Aya Nagle was really working hard because he's a funny guy, and I think he can start pulling it out more and more. But from observation analysis, he was lights out.

Aya Nagle had a fake mustache. That's how much the comedy was lacking. He had this crazy... I don't know if you saw this.

Well, that was because it was 70's throwback. Right.

That's where it was.

But no, he was good. He was excellent.

He doesn't take himself seriously, right? No. But he speaks on our level.

He's good. Because I was, as a Pats I'm like, great. We got JJ Watt, his brother's out there. We're going to have to do this brother thing. But he really went against it. There was only one time when TJ Watt got held on a fourth down, and he's like, oh, they got away with a hold. I don't know how he saw it from the booth. Then they do the all 22, and it's like, clearly gets hold. But he was seeing everything. I thought he really helped me enjoy the game. I learned shit from him. So kudos to I hope he keeps doing it.

That's good. I'm glad you're learning.

Yeah. Who's your... Buck and Akeman are the number one right now, right? Well, you're biased. You're friends of.

I got to stay out of it. He's got a five-foot stand up right behind him.

I know. This is a bad I'll drop it for you. But Ego and Wild is in the conversation, though.

Yeah.

Yeah. Collins or Tariko are really like. They're all good.

I don't think we had five good teams.

Greg Olson is good.

Yeah, we have at least five now. Olson is very good. Yeah.

And braided, it's okay. I just feel like him and Burkard, it's not... Something's missing, and I don't know what it is. Maybe it's the fact that braided is doing 17 other things.

I feel like he's going to grow on me. Eventually, I'm going to be like, Yeah, this is good. Yeah, I think so. You and I have seen some long-form stuff with him. There was a 30 for 30 on the tuck rule. He was great. Yeah. The more time he has, the better he is.

Yeah.

I mean, that's fine.

One thing I've noticed with him, because I don't think he's bad, I do think he some stuff to the table. But a lot of times he's better coming out of the time out when they can go with a big wide shot of the play and he's like, Watch what? And he'll actually really lay it out. I think he has a problem in the moment when a play, dissecting it immediately. But when he has a little time, he's really good.

Coach Tommy Boy has the exact opposite problem. Very bad coming out of the time out. The lay of the game lights out everywhere else.

He was doing the CRISper like, Oh, God.

Damn. Holy schnikes. How did I do that? We turned it over again.

Poop Fecta, Bill Saints, Yikes. Saints were just, wow.

Bills are favorite. I'll give you a hint. I'll give you a clue there.

Saints in Pole position now is the worst team in the league. It's either 14 or 14 and a half. We haven't seen a line this high, and I kept it at 14 because of the Bills' defense. So Bills by 14.

You're going to love this. No, it has to be higher because they were 12 and a half against the Dolphins. At least they have a pulse. I said 15 and a half, it's 16 and a half. That's a good number. That's a good number.

Holy moly.

So let me read this to you. Spencer Rattler is 0 and 9 now as a starter.

Has anyone gone 0 and 10?

There are two guys who have been 0 and 15. So he's got a little 15. I think he did get there. Who were the two guys? You want to guess or is it two?

This had to be from when we were kids.

No, definitely since we were... One of them, we gave a pretty good nickname to.

Was it Kaiser? Kaiser Soze.

Yeah, that's the one. The Sean Kaiser. So it's going to say he was 0 and 15, and Chris Wanky is the other one. He was before.

Chris Wenky?

Yeah.

He went 0 and 15?

I didn't know he had that many starts in him. I guess he did, right?

Honestly, if you told me Over and over for Chris Wenky starts, I would guess seven.

Yeah. 0-15.

So did he ever get a win or no?

Can Rattler get there? That I didn't look up.

I got to look this up now. How did Chris Wenky... Where was I?

I I feel like we were even doing... You had skipped those two years.

I feel like we were even doing pods back then. We knew each other then.

We did? Yeah. He was drafted in 2001.

But then he started in '06 and '07. All right, so he finished '02 and '18 as a starter.

And he lasted five seasons?

Yeah, he was gone for three and then came back. Then the other one was Kaiser.

Yeah. I mean, 15 is a lot, man.

He never had a win. 0-15, career.

He didn't get there? No. Really? Oh, he's got to come back.

'15 when the 2017 Browns and then played three more games off the bench for the packers, but but didn't start.

The Cowboys will start him, right? Maybe he could take a back seat for one game, right?

His quarterback rating was 60. 5, 58. 9 for his career. He had 11 touch downs and 22 picks in 2017, and then another 2 picks in 2018. So he finished with 11 touch downs and 24 picks. That's pretty good.

Yeah, We loved it. We loved it when he moved in. I think we were making money betting against them. We must have been, right?

We actually were. I remember, yeah, we don't have a Kaiser. So maybe Rattler could be the new Kaiser Soze.

Will they leave them in long enough? Who's knocking on his door? Hayner? Nobody. Tyler Shuck.

Tyler Shuck.

I think they can maybe give him that many starts. Good luck, Spencer.

My other poop fact, the Patriots home again for the Panthers. This is a loser leaves town match, and it might just be two losers. I have the Patriots favorite by three.

Let me see if this changed. Patriots are home, right?

Yeah.

Four and a half I had three also. You said three? I said three. We both got it.

So I won for the week.

Is that it?

There's three more games. I had a big lead for you.

Oh, shit. It's two more games. It's over. No, Green Bay DAO. There's two more. Two Monday.

Oh, there's two Monday? I only wrote down one.

If you didn't see, you should get docked four games of not knowing there were two Monday.

What was the other Monday game? Oh, since he never... Oh, that got cut off my thing. Hold on. I had a guess for that.

You're going to win anyway. You got it anyway. Nine, two, five. Damn, Jacob.

Jacob is your number one fan. Okay, Sunday night. Packers at Cowboys, the Michael Parsons game. Jerry Jones, who's his interview with, you think? Dungy? Who does he sit down with? What MBC person? Ray Taylor?

Oh, let him sit down with the clapper. Doesn't that make the most sense? Clapper? They deserve each other at this point.

I was watching a college football on Saturday, and there was a weather delay in the Notre Dame game, and Jason Garret had to fill for, I don't know, 10 minutes. It's the second time because that also happened in the NFL. I was trying to think who's less equipped to be able to fill. The clapper is trying to be the filler.

They shouldn't do that anymore. If there's even a threat of a 2% chance of precipitation, they should get them the hell out of there.

Or just queue up Seinfeld or something. Be like, We now bring you to a classic season 4 Seinfeld.

He just sing the Indiana Jones song over on a loop.

I have the packers by five in Dallas.

We split it. I said six, and I think it should be higher. It's five and a half. Okay. I mean, congratulations. There's your second leg of a teaser. I don't know who's first. That's such a winner.

Well, we're going to have... It's going to be a Jordan love referendum for the next couple of days on the talk shows. And then he has the Dallas defense waiting for him.

He does. And Micah is going to end Dax career, all that stuff. It's going to be a fun week.

Monday night. Dolphins, home for the Jets. Unbelievable. The Dolphins and they're going to be favorite in this game. Yeah. And not only are they going to be favorite, I think they're going to be favorite by two and a half.

You got it exactly. I said three. It's two and a half.

Wow. I'm on it this week. I'm going to open up on the betting this week. I think I have a come back this week.

You really did a great job. Never cheating. Manipulating these. Now, they're doing the thing. Like last week, they did the Mondays. One was at 4: 00, one was at 7: 00 on the West Coast. Now they're like, screw that. You're going to have to watch both. One's at 7: 15, one's at 8: 15 Eastern.

I like that more.

Yeah.

I thought the two in a row on Monday was a little much.

The other one's too late. Yeah.

It was just, Come on. I just did 10 hours on Sunday. Now I got to do another six on Monday.

Bring them a little closer. I mean, who did it? Was it Chris Fowler at Laryngitis? That's how... Was it Reece Davis or Chris Fowler? Are they the same person?

Chris Fowler did it.

Chris Fowler. He started like this all the time.

Then Broncos, Bengals in Denver, Jake Browning. And yet Denver, I just don't think they could be favored by more than four and a half. So I'm going to go four and a half.

Yeah, I went even lower. I said four, seven and a half.

Oh, come on.

Yeah, I mean, but that's also- That's an overreaction. They can't lose that game, though, Denver. We just saw what Jake the snake did against a good defense.

I forgot that we were calling him Jake the snake. Yeah. All right, we're tied two to two.

Damn, that's not fun.

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All right. It's just going to be a short one. My family and I spent some time with our cousin, Jimmy, Kimmel, and his family the other night after a tumultuous week.

Tumultuous That's a good word for it. Yeah.

And the kids, my kids, I think they felt weird approaching him at first. And my middle guy, Jack, who is a junior in high school, breaks the ice and says in his deadpan way, he says, Hey, some kids at school We'll say it's not right what happened to you. And then just leaves it there. And Jimmy says, Well, what did you say? He's like, I said, Yeah, I think you're right. And Jimmy's like, Well, next time tell them, I'm not too worried about what happens. My cousin Jimmy is an excellent dancer. And Jack was stone-face taking it in and nodded like, okay. And I guarantee tomorrow he's going to take this literally and say this to high schoolers. There's no doubt about it. I guarantee it. So there you go. He's an excellent dancer.

Were your kids, they're getting this in school?

Yeah, they're getting this in school.

Because my kids were getting it and your kids are actually related to Jimmy.

Yeah, right. Yeah. They're younger. I mean, it's just a quick... That's all I have to say right now. I can't really say anything. You and I, I know too much.

We both know too much. It's very emotional. Yeah, we both know too much. And not only our cousin, but all the people working for the show. And it's better if we're not talking about this in any way.

When I can, I will. I think you wrapped it up pretty well the other day. I didn't listen, but someone told me what you said, didn't It didn't sound too stupid. So good.

Didn't listen?

No, I listened. No, it was good.

I hope it works out.

Wouldn't that be nice?

I hope it has a nice It's happy ending in some fashion. We'll see. We'd probably talk about it more if we knew what was going to happen. I think we're too far under the hood in this one, so it's better that we don't really talk about it. My mom has really taken it up a level with the text and just sends me these random ones, including one on Monday, where she's asked me at the weekend and then texted about the podcast, Watching you and Sal, what happened to your right eye?

Oh, no.

I'm like, I don't know. I'm in Boston, my contacts. She's like, Looked like your eyelid was bruised in the inside corner and I was bloodshot. Thought carry through another shoe at you. This is a story when my wife and I were living together in Boston, where we weren't even engaged. I lived in this apartment where we put all our stairs. You walked in the door and we put all our stairs at the bottom. This is when I lived in Charlestown. Then you would walk up the stairs to where the room was. My wife was up ahead of me. We just got out to dinner and had a couple of drinks. She didn't realize I was behind her. She was taking off her shoes, and she whipped the shoe back, but I was actually coming around the corner of the thing, and she nailed me in the eye. My mom has been bringing this up now for 27 years. It was like a domestic violence incident. I don't think she's ever really fully believed the story.

Yeah, I think she's waiting for you to break down and tell her the truth one day.

It's like, Well, remember that time? Well, here's what actually happened. This is really what happened. She's at the top of the stairs. She was kicking off her shoe, kicked it down, and it just nailed me in the eye. Damn it, you didn't have any cameras? My mom brought it up once a year ever since. Somehow, yet again, it came up. She also has had a lot of thoughts about our cousin that I'm not going to about the treatment that I'm not going to read in. But she's been wanging a lot on text lately.

She thinks other people should get kicked in the eye.

I think the texting with our moms, with the technology was dicey there for a while. And then they started to go on Facebook. Your mom was big on Facebook. My mom was more of a reader of Facebook, and the text were always incoherent, misspelling. But now they're just very direct. What's going on with this? Or some crazy comment or, Bill Maher's dead to me. Or just very direct stuff. And I've really enjoyed her text the last couple of years.

Do you get a lot of AI? I'm getting a ton of AI stuff from my mother. Like, look at this. I'm like, what? I just sent just videos that are clearly not... Some of them are tough to distinguish, but it'll be like, Jimmy, talking like, no, he hasn't said anything about this. What do you... Come on, stop. But yeah, that part could...

There was a great Belichick, whatever her name is, video yesterday. Jordan. Yeah. Well, because there was video of her going on the sidelines talking. Right. So, of course, all my past fans were just like, wow, could this be going worse?

Yeah.

Like, this is the greatest NFL coach of all time. This has been the most humiliating year ever. He's getting his ass kicked in these games. He's got this 25-year-old coming on the sidelines when he's trying to coach. How did he get to this point? But there was this AI thing where they're talking and then all of a sudden they start making out. And I actually believed it for a split second. I was like, Oh, my God, what's he doing? And then I was like, Oh, this is AI. They got me. But we're going to hit a point where it has to say AI in the corner, right? It has to start to put... It has to be watermarked AI. It's too easy now to fake this stuff.

Right, right, right. Yeah, I want to see one of Jordan kicking her heels off and one hitting Bill in the eye and the other Bill, Belichick.

Let's see what that looks like. My mom's still investigating this. It's like a Datelight FBC.

So what did you say to her with that particular comment.

I think I'm old and I slept wrong. I don't know what happened. It was like there was nothing. No, Carrie didn't throw another shoe at me. I'm fine. Anyway, That is Parent Corner brought to you by Scout Motors. Join the waitlist for the Scout, Taren Scout Traveler at scoutmotors. Com. Concept vehicles, not available for sale. Features and performance specifications are preliminary, subject to change. Joining the waitlist is not guaranteed purchase. Visit scoutmotors. Com for details. So, yeah, it should be an interesting week ahead.

Yeah.

We'll see how it goes.

I wish I could say anything. There are a couple of bombshells still there. So I'm feeling good. We're going to be all right. Everything's going to be just fine.

I think we'll be fine. You know, I'm not betting against our cousin.

Yeah.

He'll be fine. Whatever he wants to do. Hey, listen, he might just want to be a pop-up chef. Just start making barbecue around the South Bay area. He'll do a great job.

Be happy.

Yeah. He'll be fine. Anything you want to plug before we go? Yeah.

Ringer Gambling Show all week long. You catch me with Tate on Tuesday. You can catch me house in the Bundo on Wednesday, and then I'm with the Bundo and Hi Fitz on Friday, and Ryan Fitzpatrick will join us as well on Friday. So that's going to be fun.

I zoomed into that Wednesday show with you and the Bundo house. Yeah, you did. I was power walking around Boston, and I was outraged. I just jackpatched me, and all of a sudden, I was on the show.

The Bundo wouldn't... He passed on the Thursday night game. We spent 10 minutes previewing the Thursday night game, and he passed on. You can't pass on the one game, right?

He He's on a gambling show where you have to give pics.

You were worked up. You had that busted eye and everything. I know. You were walking the streets of Boston.

Kerry just hit me with a shoe.

I was like, nice working with you, Dubundo. I think you have to make pics on these gambling shows.

Yeah, pretty sure. It's the game's tomorrow night. It's the only NFL game we'd like a pick. He wouldn't even do the over for the Miami total.

That's what I did. That was why he wouldn't even condone that one. He wouldn't even condone that one. Anyway. Also, I want to say, sportsbook consigliary, David Shera Pan passed away this weekend. He was a really good dude. He was a fan of ours. I'm not going to pretend to be his best friend, but I'd see him in Vegas in front of and behind the counter, worked at various sports books. We shoot this shit. Super nice fellow. And one of the few, maybe the only sports gambler who seemed to be loved by everyone. Is there a sports gambler that's loved by everyone? I think that's harder than a three-team teaser. I don't think you could do that.

I certainly can't think of one.

No, he's the only one. No, he's gone. Rest in early state.

The only other thing I had for you before we go, I haven't won our fantasy football league since 2008.

What are you, 300 or something?

2007. No. I just like my team this year. I feel like I might have something this year with my team.

Let me see. We're going to look at it really quick. We're going to get a double deuce. All right, so you're going to win by You're going to beat Hinch this week?

Yeah. I have the Caleb Williams-Baker-Mayfield-QB combo. James Cooke. I have the two Pats running back. So the Ramondra is about to get waved, so that'll be Travis and Henderson going forward. I have this Ollie Gordon on Miami and Woody Marks on Houston. I feel like one of those is going to come on. Nico Collins, Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill. I have Brock Bowers and Tucker Kraft.

Not bad.

That's good. I have Iia Manor and Boody and and Dobbs.

Right.

And then Breyland Allen and the Jets. I feel like I'm going to get lucky. I have all my FAB left. I just like my team this year. I like my quarterbacks. I feel like I can make a run.

I mean, you're definitely going to lose this week Now that you talk them up, you have a 37-point lead going up against Gibbs and Laporta.

Yeah, I feel pretty good about that. 37. 4-point lead. And then your team has... What do you have?

I have a 21.

You have Herbert, Achan and Jacobs, Jefferson, McLaurin, Garrett Wilson. Yeah, my team's way better than yours. What? Yeah.

I have Kenneth Walker on my bench. I'll figure it out. Yeah, I'm going to lose this week.

You have Shaq here.

Yeah.

Who's the number one pick if we're doing a fantasy draft right now?

Jonathan Taylor, I think, right?

Is it? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think you're right.

He's got monster numbers here. I How many are we in seven weeks? I can't even- Well, we're doing this guillotine league, which has been...

That's been really fun. I'm in two guillotine league and two knockout league, then the Ringer fantasy league that I think I'm going to be in last place for.

Oh, you are? And we had a draft punishments. What was your punishment?

It wasn't anything that bad.

One of them was no coffee for a week, and you almost started crying when you saw that.

Yeah, I wouldn't be able to do That would have been really tough. I think mine was curious to throw a shoe of me.

I wish I had known that story.

My mom chases it down for 27 years.

We definitely put that up there.

I should take a video of the stairway, reenact it, what happened. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it wasn't great. Anyway. All right, because as always, especially this week, good job by you. Good job by you, buddy. Thanks to Eduardo and Gehow as well. Don't forget, new rewatchables coming Monday. We did airplane, Sal.

Oh, really?

Yeah, airplane. And then Prestige TV Task on HBO. Episode 3 just broke that down. Surely, you can't be serious. Yeah, surely, you can't be serious. All right, see you next week, Sal.

See you, bud.

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