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George Springer does it again. Maybe the most clutch postseason hitter of the last, what, 15 years?

Third all time in postseason home runs now, which Which is pretty crazy. That will be a trivia fact that you don't get right in 20 years. Can I guess?

Yeah. Can I guess the other two? Yeah. One's got to be Manny.

Okay. All time home runs.

In postseason?

I think the stat was go ahead.

Oh, it was go ahead home runs. Is it or is it- Most career- Is he said a ton of home runs? Postseason home runs, Manny is correct. Number one. Good call, PFT.

But that is not the stat.

Jose Altuve is second. Kyle Schwerber is Tied for third, and George Springer is tied for third. Now he's third. Yeah. So I'm looking at it right now. Yeah, insanely- Most career postseason home runs, George Springer hit his 24th home run, and boy, did it matter.

And he did it after getting absolutely drilled in the kneecap with a fastball just a few days before.

Yeah. So where do you land? I saw there was a lot of karma because Mariner's fans apparently jeered and booed George Springer when he got drilled in the kneecap and looked like he was injured. There were then Mariner's fans being like, We were doing it because of his link to the Astros, not because we were rooting for his injury. I have no problem with all of it. Who cares?

Yeah. If he was severely injured, then you would have to apologize for booing him. Yes. But the fact that it was just really painful.

And then he ended your season.

And then he ended your season. Hey, that's sports, baby. That's why we watch. But yeah, the Blue Jays, they're a very fun team. Toronto Blue Jays. Well, so that's the thing is at the games, they chant, Let's go Blue Jays. Yeah.

Well, they're Canadian. They're allowed to do that.

I'm going to continue to say Toronto Blue Jays. I'm not going to be- Yeah, you said Toronto Blue Jays. Just Blue Jays. Yeah, just Blue Jays. I'm not going to be bullied by some... Was it one guy? It was one guy. Yeah, fuck that guy. Get your own podcast, buddy. You can say whatever you want. But the Blue Jays are a fun team. They've got obviously some- Are you talking about the Toronto Jays? I'm talking about the Blue Jays.

Oh, I know them as the Toronto Jays.

The Blue Jays. They've got some very fun players. We should be excited about that. The pitching probably is going to be a mismatch in favor of the Dodgers in the series. But they've got some clutch dudes. They've got Springer, they've got Vladdy. They got Max Scherzer. They got Max Scherzer, who is a fucking psychopath and will do anything that he possibly can to win. I'll be rooting for Mad Max.

He will also tie the record for most different teams played for in a World Series with four.

With four. Yeah. Lonnie Smith. The Rangers, right? You pitched for the Rangers? Yeah. Forget about that. I feel like Max is a nat for life, though. But they also have- Tiger's fans are I'm not going to be happy about that. I know, you're right. He's a great pitcher for the Nats.

Tiger's having Verlander and Scherzer in their prime.

Insane. And officially, Bo Bichette is coming back now. Everyone thought, myself included, he would be back for the ALCS. He was not. But then he said after the game, he's coming back for the World Series. And if you don't know, Bo Bichette, I think he had the second most hits in baseball this year. It's a big addition for the Blue Jays.

And the Toronto Jays get home field advantage. So So listen, I'm not going to say it's not going to be like the brewers. The Toronto Jays are not going to lay down like the brewers did.

You know what's crazy is that the Blue Jays are... I guess this is a Blue Jays stat when you're looking at the gambling lines for the series, but under five and a half games for the World Series is plus money. It's plus $125. So everyone out there that's thinking that it's a sweep or the Dodgers in five, you can make a pretty good return on that.

I hate that bet just because when you have a World Series where you have no routing interest, I just want it to go seven.

Yeah. I also feel terrible for Mariner's fans. That was a tough night. The vibes were so high. Cal Raleigh hitting that home run into their own bullpen, and the bullpen catcher who caught that. It was his birthday.

This just shows playoff baseball. It's like you have one bat. It's not even a bad ending. It was like two with bats where it's just that's all it takes. And it's boom, your season's over. And 48 years, the Mariners have been a franchise. They have never been to the World Series. They were that close. It's brutal. And it was even more brutal that the Seahawks were... Well, the Seahawks were winning, but when they had that, there was that one minute where they just started showing Mariners fans, watching the game in Seattle and seeing that they lost.

That sucked. There was one exact moment, and it was right when Springer hit the home run. It was side by side. No, it was when they lost. They were officially at the end of the game. Top of the ninth année, two strikes. I was watching. I had the multi-view going on. So I had the baseball in one, Monday Night Football in the other. And the ref in the football game went out to midfield and explained the fact that the Seahawks actually don't get safety. They don't get a countdown. It's actually going to be a touchback, and the Texans will retain the ball at the exact time as J-Rod struck out.

Yeah, it was not great. I do feel gutted for Mariner's fans, but it's also tough because it was not like a Mariner's Yankees. The Toronto Bluejays have not... Sorry, the Toronto Jays have not been to the World Series since Joe Carter, since the back-to-back championships. And it is Canada's team. And I'll say this, the Dodgers are obviously favorites. The Dodgers are a super team. The Dodgers look unstoppable. If there's one guy... You When you're going up against the Dodgers, you need one guy who's like, Fuck them. I'm the man. And Vladhi is that guy. Think about this. Vladhi is so confident. He showed up to game seven of the ALCS to punch a ticket to the World Series in an Austin Matthews, Toronto Mapleleaves, Jersey. That is the balliest thing you could possibly do. You are literally asking for the entire world to meme you to death if things don't go your way in game seven.

Famous game seven success I guess have her Austin Matthews.

And the Mapleleaves.

Yeah. If Connor McDavid showed up to a game seven wearing a Jim Kelly jersey, that's what we're looking. That's like if you won the 50-50 wearing a Pete Rose jersey. Yeah.

It'd be like if Connor McDavid showed up 3-1 in a series with the Chris Paul jersey on.

Yeah. He can't do that. It's ballsy as fuck. I love Vladdy's big ass.

And he's just... I mean, Max, you're a baseball guy. You need that one guy who's like, Fuck him. Fuck them all. He said it to the Yankees. He hated the Yankees. He's got that aura, swag. They're like, Fuck it. We're underdogs. Who cares?

I think they got no shot.

Oh, okay. No shot.

No, I love that.

They got no shot. I love that. Now, Max, hold on. Explain, though. I think you've explained it before, but you're just rooting for the Phillies to be the only team to have had a chance against the Dodgers.

I just don't think they have... The Dodgers are too good. They don't have the pitching.

I mean, Gossman They have guys- Gossman would be their fifth starter. I know. Gossman, you Savage, Scherzer, you need to... The guys just got a nut up. They got a nut up.

I mean, if you look back at big game pitchers, Max Scherzer is right up there. Yeah. Now he's old. He's 40. He's old. He's the guy that... Now, he'll like- He had a good game.

And that's the thing. The Mariner's lineup is good. The Dodgers lineup is also better.

The Dodgers just have dudes everywhere. Well, I mean, the Dodgers have the The scariest part about the Dodgers is they have three absolute studs, and then they have guys who are having... Muki Betz is a stud, but he's having a down year, but he could be good at any time.

It doesn't matter.

No, he's having a great play. Yeah, he's having a great play. I'm just saying, if you even just take out... If you're like, All right, we can pitch around Shohe and Freddie, there's just guys everywhere. Yeah, there's six of your guys. T. Oscar and then like-Kike Hernández is just a postseason. Tommy Edmond is going to hit a home run. Yeah.

Max, fact or fiction, you hate the Blue Jays because of what Joe Carter did to you.

I was dead.

Actually, he's right. He was dead. Yeah, you were dead. If you're not alive, you're dead. He was dead.

You were unalive at the moment. You were pre-born.

I guess I get mad watching that clip, but I can't really get mad.

But you know your dad got mad at that home run? Oh, yeah. I were swimming around in his balls.

My dad was for sure not happy with that.

I like anything that happened before you were alive, just being like, I was dead for that.

Yeah, I was dead for that. Don't ask me. I was dead. But Philly hates Toronto because of that.

Sure, yeah. Max. Oh, I should have... Sorry, we're 10 minutes in the show. Are people able to listen to this show right now?

I don't know. Okay. Well, I don't know.

Or should you be soul-patched?

No.

Max took down the cloud last night.

You didn't press the button.

I did.

I- Explain it to the listeners.

Zack was going to bring it up in who's back.

Okay, all right. That's a nice tease. Or a hot sea cool drone.

Okay, that's a nice tease. I'm still asleep.

Well, first, did you see after the game? Did you hear the scream, the primal scream from the Mariner's Club house?

Oh, yeah. Incredible.

Can we play that?

That was the most relatable, what are you supposed to do besides just screaming fuck at the top of your voice?

Were they interviewing Brian Wu?

They were interviewing Brian Wu, who gave up the big home run to George Springer, which was...

Yeah. What a scene, man. You just hear this yell in the background.

There's nothing like playoff baseball like, crowds.

Here, listen to this. Having gone as further than any other team in franchise history. That's an awesome scream.

Also, the Toronto Jays locker room, I've never seen a locker room go quicker into just a full-on nightclub. It was insane in there.

Yeah, they party.

Like lasers and smoke and just looked good.

You think we're going to get a mayor's bet for this series? Kendrick Lamar and Drake.

Oh, I forgot about that. Nice storyline.

Big storyline in this one.

Huge storyline. I like that. They should go to a game together.

It'd be fun. That would be cool.

Yeah, look at that. Look at this locker room. That's a straight-up club.

That can't be the locker.

That's the locker room.

That legitimately looks like a club. I know.

That's what I'm saying.

That's the biggest locker room ever.

It was instant, too. Hang on. Oh, man. Look at that. It's insane. Yeah, there's like- There's a disco ball in there. There's lights. It's a fish concert. It's a full light show.

I'm just thinking about, Drake, how close is Dodger Stadium to an elementary school. Oh, no. Let me see. Yeah, I can't. That's not going to happen.

All right, should we talk about a football, the double header from hell? Because it was like the first game, the lions in the box. Lions are just That was the most Dan Campbell awful loss. We're still the best. We're going to shove it down your throat. But the game was so frustrating because it felt like it wanted to be a track meet shootout that just never broke out.

It also felt like at some point, Baker was going to do his fourth-quarter thing and bring him back, but he didn't have his best night last night. He was so off. He was off. Also, the lines defense, they were getting after him. Yes. Like, Hutchinson was getting after him and hitting him. I feel like the lines are officially back, back, back.

But if they lose a game, just bet on them the next week.

That's just what they do. Dan Campbell is going to be just locking him in a cage, poking him with a stick all week, getting him fired up, getting him angry. Getting them violent. It was a decisive victory.

Helva, Amon Roth, thank you. Finally scoring. First touch down. But the Lion, so I was thinking about this. Baker Baker had a very off night. It's okay to say that. He looked bad. You could tell almost instantly he was airmailing guys. He was missing wide open receivers. I feel like this does happen once or twice. Everyone, even the best quarterback, Bucks in a given season. I'm not worried about the Bucks overall, though. Broken clavicle for Mike Evans sucks. He just can't stay on the field this year.

That was tough. I also thought Amon Ra had maybe the coolest play of the night, and it was on one of his teammates' coolest plays of the night when Jamir Gibbs got that first down on that option pitch that they ran, like almost a jet sweep or a reverse to Amun Ra, who then pitched it to Jamir Gibbs. Jamir Gibbs gets hit behind the line of scrimmage twice, and Ammon Ra gets behind him and just grabs him and dives and shoves him forward past the first down line. It was awesome to watch. Watch this.

It was funny, too, because Troy Akeman was just like, That's all Ammon Ra. It's like, Well, or sorry, that's And then all Jameer gives. Like, Well, Ammon Ra was... He had some help in them there. I have a take. Why don't we... Yeah, it was Ammon Ra just getting them the extra yards, and yet, Jameer gives so fast. I Have a take. Why are we never saying, and I'll fix this going forward, Jameer Gibbs is the best running back in football? Because I think he is.

He could be, yeah.

And I think that he gets obviously dinged for having to split carries with David Montgomery. But The best running back in football, the answer is usually Chris McCaffee, or Saquon Barkley, or Jonathan Taylor. I think it's Jameer Gibbs. He has played 39 regular-season games. He's averaging 100 yards from scrimage and a countdown in 39 games. So he has 3,900 yards and 38 touch downs in 39 games. He is so fucking good. I think I'm going to start saying that he's the best running back in football. I'm going to put more respect on his name. I think it is partially because his first two years, he split a lot of carries with Dave Montgomery. Now it feels like they're like, All right, he is, Dave Montgomery maybe not getting as many carries because Jamir Gibbs, that's one of the fastest I've ever seen someone on a football field.

Yeah, and they laughed at the lines on draft night. Dude. Laught at him. The whole entire- Good pick.

The lines, all the nerds in analytics were like, Hey, you don't build your team out of runningbacks and linebackers? Guess what? The lines did, and it works.

Well, they also have a great offensive line. Of course. But Jamir Gibbs is, yeah, he's definitely, I'd say he's without a doubt top three running in the NFL right now.

I'm saying best right now, this season. By the way, Panesu will also go in.

I wish he had- That clip was so funny.

I wish he had gotten that block because he was- He was running so fast. So fast, though.

He was running too fast. Yeah.

He overran himself.

He couldn't slow down to make a block.

His body went too fast.

I think he was just really happy he was running fast.

He just opened it free, just running down there.

Yeah, they need to get the ball in Panay Sewell's hands more this season. I want to see him carrying the ball. I want to see him on a screen pass. I want to see him catching a lateral. I want to see that man in the open field with a ball in his hand just running people over.

Also, shout out John Hussy. A lot of John Hussy.

A lot of John Hussy. Okay, so the lines were the better team last night.

Yes, and Baker was off.

Yeah, They deserve to win. They deserve to blow up. I guess you could call it a blow up, but it was decisive. They deserve that, the better team. There was that fourth down challenge that turned into maybe was it really even a challenge? Was it Sky Judge? Was it Roger Goodell in a mouthpiece from New York telling them to overturn the call? There is something weird that happened during that call. I don't know if you heard John Hussy's explanation behind it, but I've never heard a rough talk like that before. Yeah. He came out after He went under the hood for a second time, and he said, After a second look. He didn't say, After further review. Every other ref I've ever heard has said, After further review. He said, After a second look. We gave it a second look. And then he announced what it was, and he said, And also, we're giving Detroit back its challenge, and we're giving Detroit back its time out. He was almost playing to the crowd a little bit. Every other ref I've ever heard, they do the passive language. They're like, Detroit will not be charged with a second challenge.

Detroit will not be charged with time out, but they're like, No, we're going to give it back to them. It was a staggeringly informal way of announcing that, and it just seemed like somebody might have put that in John Hussy's ear.

That's just Hussy time, baby.

Yeah, it was really strange the way it was presented.

Maybe the lines Deserved one from the control center.

After the Jared Goff.

Yeah, after the Jared Goff. By the way, to the point of the Lions building the team, the way they built the team, Jack Campbell, which also was laughed about, Since tackle data began being tracked in 1999, lines linebacker Jack Campbell is Detroit's first player to log at least seven tackles in each of his first seven games of a season. He's pretty good. That defense, when they get healthy, that's a good defense. Yeah, that's a really good defense. Also, Jamir Gibbs, when he was asked about his Duke, he said, I don't call it nothing. That's just me watching YouTube and shit. I don't really know what that means, but it sounds cool.

We got to watch more YouTube.

We got to watch YouTube and shit. All right, second game. I'm so done with the Texans.

Listen, both teams tried to give this game away. The Texans, I don't know if they practice plays on offense. I don't know if they have a playbook, if it's just run the ball up the middle. And then if it's a passing play, it's just like, okay, whoever's on the outside, just try to get open. I'll hit you downfield. Their offense was so frustrating to watch.

So frustrating. And it was the combo of frustrating to watch and also the late game. So you had to ask yourself, am I going to do this for another half? And then the fumble, who was a strip sack in the end zone, for the Seahawks to get it back to... Or sorry, for the Texans to get it back to a one-score game, Will Anderson, you're like, I was right about to turn off the TV. And then it happened. I was like, God fucking damn it, the Texans. And they kept her away.

That game was the ultimate I want to just turn this game off. Give me a reason to. And they just wouldn't.

Will Anderson kept us all awake.

It's the entire Texan's defense. The Texan's defense made it impossible to stop the game because they kept forcing turnovers. That defense is fucking incredible.

It's so It's so good. It's just wasted on whatever the... I mean, it's a lack of weapons, obviously. The offensive line stinks. C. J. Stroud also, he doesn't look great.

No, he doesn't. He misses guys. Until late in the fourth quarter, he was stuck at like 130 yards passing. He wasn't really doing much. There was no creativity also in the offense. The offensive coordinator for the Texans calls plays like he hates his own team. He'll do the thing where if you can't get a yard, we don't deserve to win this game. So let's just run the ball off the middle and prove we can get a yard. You're not going to get a yard with that offensive line against the Seahawks defensive line. And the Seahawks defense is also world-class. The Seahawks defense is really good. I thought Sam Darnold actually played pretty well. And with JSN, it feels like that's the thing that can take the Seahawks to the next level. Right now, JSN is probably having the best season of any wide receiver.

I was going to say that was my other hot... Jameer Gibbs is the best running back. Jackson Smith is the best wide receiver this year.

He's having the best year.

Yeah, for sure. I know that the answer would be Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson and CeeD.

I might even put Pukha.

Pukha. But he's first in yards. He's tied for fifth in receptions. I think he's third in receptions of all wide receivers. And he is four touch downs on the season. He's three games in a row over 100 yards.

Yeah.

Credit to the Seahawks, too, for saying, Hey, we can trade Dike.

Yeah.

We have a dude here who could be a true number one, and everything can fill in after him.

He was in the slot more last year, right? So now they're moving him out, and he's even better out there. He's had over 79. 5 receiving yards in every game this season, except for one, except for Thursday night when he had 79 yards. Yeah. Yeah, but the Seahawks offense, they continue to be fun to watch because they take so many shots downfield.

Yeah, I'm buying the Seahawks.

They bomb it. The funny thing to me is their running game because you never know who's going to look like their number one back on any given night. Last night, I thought Charbonne looked stronger, more explosive. Then every other night, I feel like I'm watching Walker being like, They need to give this guy the ball more.

I have four teams that I put in the Texans category of, in theory, I like them, but in actuality, I'm sick of their shit. It's the Texans, it's the Jaguars, it's the Chargers, and the Falcons. Those four teams, in theory, theoretically, I like them. Yeah, but their offense- But then they play, and I just get I get so frustrated watching them play.

The offense was bad last year, too. No, I know. C. J. Stroud, he's, I think, second team, all bad body language.

But still, they won a playoff game last year.

They did. That defense did. I know.

Well, the C. J. Stroud was pretty good in that game, too.

Yeah, he was pretty good. But I mean, it was what? Herbert threw four picks, I think.

Yeah, he was not great. It was not his best game.

C. J. Stroud seems really bummed out. He seems just as bummed out playing for the Texans as as we see him watching the Texans.

Are we done with Monday Night Double Headers? Is that it, officially, hopefully?

I hope so.

It's got to be. It's weeks.

Although I do like the back-to-back games, I just don't like them. It felt like this was later.

What do you mean?

I don't know.

It felt like this- I am with you.

I don't know if it started at the same time, but it ended at 12: 30, and the game just dragged off.

Yeah, they did. They've done it back and forth. When the bears played the commanders, that was a staggered start.

They did two that were staggered, two that were back to back.

They're probably just testing.

But I think maybe it was just because the first one was Chargers, Raiders, and that just feels like a later game. Yeah, it does feel- The Texans playing late Night didn't really feel like they were supposed to play that late.

Yeah, that's actually a really good point that I agree with because the Texans are on a late night team.

Chargers, Raiders, it's like they should be playing at 10: 00 every time.

Yeah, if this was Raiders, Seahawks, it would have made perfect sense. Oh, man, we have a Raiders Monday Night game.

Commanders Chiefs. We have a Panthers Monday Night game. That's going to be a scenes, PFT.

Absolute scenes in Arrowhead.

Oh, we have a Cardinals Monday Night game.

Cardinals, Cowboys, Gross.

We have some gross Monday Night Games.

Eagles, Packers.

They can flex some of these. Oh, no. We have a Dolphins Monday night game.

I think that's flexible, isn't it? They have to flex it. Week 15?

Flex it now.

Do it right now. Imagine this. It's December 15th. It's like a little snowy, a little sleety outside, and you've got Tua going into Pittsburgh. How does that end? I don't know. Not good. Not good for anyone.

Tua is still going to be the quarterback for the Dolphins, Mike McDaniel did say Tua will be a starting quarterback this week, and his expectation is that they will not throw 10 pics.

Okay, that's good.

So that's a good expectation.

That's good. Hey, under promise, over delivered. If he throws nine pics, hey, I told you.

Yeah. Do we have anything else to clean up?

I don't really- Are you going Monday?

I think I'm going to have to go. Yeah. It's Monday night. Your team needs you. You never know. I'm not going to back down. Actually, you know what? I might just flip I might put on my Hank hat for a second. We're talking about an October football game. It wake me up when it's playoff time. This team, we don't even take things seriously until the playoffs. We're a playoff team, okay? That's the championship mentality.

Okay.

That's what Hank criticized before last year. He was not understanding how to be a winner. Who cares about October? How many teams have started off three and three, four and four, three and four, and then gone on and had payoff success? A lot. It happens all the time.

Pft, I had a question for you about Magic Johnson. Does it suck? I have alerts on for him. Yes, same. And him just dropping random Commander's tweets Because on Sunday night, he dropped one at 1: 00 in the morning, and it just was for my Commander's, what a difference a year makes. We had a very few injuries last season, but a lot so far this season. That was the whole tweet.

Facts. That's what Magic does.

It would piss me off getting that random alert at 1: 00 in the morning.

Yeah. I also have had Magic Johnson notifications on for quite some time to stay current on all the breaking news 24 hours later. And yeah, last year was great. We're randomly on a Tuesday morning, he would tweet out like, Wow, what a great game by my commanders against the Tennessee Titans last week. Then he just lists two stats from the game. It's not as fun this year when it's negative news, but he's right. I mean, there's just a ton of injuries. But you know what? Screw it. This is a Championship DNA, all right? These are the games you have to surprise people and win. You go into Arrowhead, the Chiefs look like they're unbeatable. The spread is what? Ten and a half points? Nine and a half? I don't know where it's at right now. This is It's the game that you have to win.

What is it on DraftKings?

Commanders currently have an 11% chance to make the playoffs.

11%, yeah. That's fine.

It's going to be a lot higher after you go into Arrowhead and win.

Yeah, statement game. Statement game, passing of the torch.

Will you be doing money line on the Commanders? That was to Hank. I assume you don't need to because you're rooting for the Commanders very hard. Plus $455. Hank, were you going to get in this hole?

Yeah, I will. I I love Baker, but I'm now on betting on outcomes that help Drake may win the MVP. Last night, I was on Baker, interception, under yards, team total under, You just spied better. Now we got Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes in the crosshairs.

Did you bet Drake May to win the MVP? Yeah. Okay. I was just saying that's a probably easier way to do that than having to follow along.

Well, no. Yeah, I bet it. Now I'm trying to will my bet to finish line.

All right, here's a fun little thing that I did.

He jumped a third last night.

Last Tuesday, October 14th- He's fourth. I put a bet on the Commander's Money Line in Arrowhead on last Tuesday. Oh, great line value. Incredible line value. It's plus 205, the bet that I got. I think they're now plus 800.

They're plus 450.

Okay, plus 450. Yeah. So yes, I do have a bet on Commander's Money Line for Monday night.

Hank is now offended by DraftKings. That Baker is third and Drake May is fourth. That is offensive. It's offensive to you.

I mean, you can make money off that, though, Hank. True.

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My Hot Seat, I couldn't help myself but to bring up this story because it's just so fake, even though it's Hollywood gossipy, love story, whatever, page 6.

Go on.

Dua Lippa, your Are you familiar? Dewey? Dating this guy, Callum Turner, who I don't really know, but whatever. Sounds like you're jealous.

Callum sounds like a hot guy name.

Yeah, no, he's a hot guy. She's hot. It's a hot couple. They're hot. No beef, but he revealed to the Sunday Times, fiancé, so I guess fiancé, he revealed that they were reading the same book the night they first met. We sat next to each other on a plane, realized we were reading the same book, which is crazy. It's called Trust by Hernán Díaz. I had just finished the first chapter. I told her, and she looked at me and said, I just finished the first chapter, too. And I said, So we're on the same page.

That's so gross.

All right. You think it's fake?

You think he set it up?

That's what I'm thinking, Big Cat. I'm thinking my man Callum did some digging behind the scenes, found out what book she was reading, bought that same book, maybe at the airport Bookstore, and then brought it onto the plane so they'll have something to talk about.

He's an English English actor.

Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, man. With an English accent saying, Oh, we're on the same page. Oh, so we're on the same page. Just ride me high. Yeah, puddles.

You got her. It was too much. Too much. But yeah, whatever.

You don't love Love?

I love Love. I just this one, I just couldn't. Sounds like you love Love. It's who cares. It's Hollywood's fake.

He couldn't imagine himself bonding with a woman over a book. That's the thing.

On a plane. Yeah, fake as plane Story, love story of all time.

I can't think of one.

My cool throne is Utah Hockey.

Oh, okay.

They have a hockey team.

They have had one.

They had one last year.

The Mammoth, yeah.

The Mammoth.

Did it take a while to get to you, the news?

Yeah. I knew they had a hockey team. I didn't know it was the Mammoth. I thought they might have changed.

The Mammoth is this year. Last year is Utah Hockey Club.

That's what I thought. That's where I got confused. I saw the Sharks because the Sharks haven't won, and the coach said he would give up his kid to get a win, which is tough, five games in the season. It's tough for the kid.

He's basically saying he hates his kid.

But then it was like they lost the Utah Mammoth, and I was confused because I didn't know that was their mascot. Yeah, okay.

That was a cool throw knowing the Utah mascot.

Yeah, cool throw for you guys. I thought that was going to be a reveal.

You thought you're going to reveal that to us? They did a big reveal two weeks ago.

You revealed it to me, Hank. I had no idea. Thank you, Max.

Zero cool. You also didn't know that there was a London game until midnight.

Yeah, sometimes you miss it.

I do like the logo, though. The logo's metal as fuck.

It's way better than the hockey club. Yes.

And he broke out of a big ice block, the Mammoth.

I like that. I like when they do mascot origin stories, and they show the birth of it. Yeah, like Dinger. Dinger, or when they We had the RoboDuck from Oregon pop out of the show. Yep.

Shout out to Mammoth. Shout out to Mammoth.

Shout out to Mammoth.

We should do that as a weekly segment, The Big Reveal. Just something that we can try to stun each other with something that has been out for a while.

I mean, you guys are acting like, I'm sure there's a lot of other listeners that did not know that the Utah Hockey Club was not a Utah Mammoth.

I think that's fair. That's fair, Hank.

Yeah.

I just I just saw the video when it came out. If I hadn't, I'd be with you.

I bet there's listeners that didn't even know the hockey season started yet.

I bet there are listeners that are shocked that they're listening right now because Max finally pressed the button.

You're...

Yeah? He's loving this.

This logo is fucking awesome. Yeah, it's great. The mountains inside of the head.

The NHL has been on a heater with new logos. Like the Kraken, I'm all on board for that. Mammoth. Things are getting better in the NHL. Tusky.

Tusky is his Tusky is the mascot.

Just played Fleet with Mac Tusk.

Love that.

Pft.

My Hot Seat is complaining about the refs because we actually had a ref in the NFL save a man's life last night. Jsn was under attack on the bench, and then NFL official, he used to play actually in the league, Nate Jones, I think he was a side judge, sprinted over, weaved his way through the mosh pit, and then threw himself onto JSN like a live grenade. He actually did become that meme of the soldier that's protecting the sleeping baby. And he shoved Jason's face into his titties, gave him a little motorboat, a little lap dance on the sidelines. I wish that it had happened to one of the lead darlings. If this had happened to Patrick Mahomes and you have a ref that's hugging him, that would have been such a good thing that we could just always refer to in the future. But shout out to this guy. Put his life on the line. We should be saying his name every time we talk about what's his name? John Hussy? John Hussy. For every John Hussy. We're getting Hussy time. There's 10 Nate Jones out there that are willing to die to protect a player in the NFL.

So credit to him. Strictly facts. It was great. Then my cool throne is sports rivalry, specifically the Boston-New York sports rivalry. It's back on, Hank. It's back on. What happened? There was a report that came out yesterday that... Well, there's two sides to it. The Knicks tried to hire Joe Missoula last year. You remember when the Knicks were doing thing where they just asked other teams if they could have their head coaches? And they all said no. And they all said no. They really tried to get Joe Missoula. And then the Celtics were like, no. And also, here's a new contract, Joe Missoula. So we're keeping you around. Now, if James Dolan was If he was smart, I would say that he's trying to get other teams to just have to pay their head coaches more and driving the price up. I think that was completely unintentional on his part. But how funny would that have been if the Knicks had hired Joe Missoula from you? Not funny at all. Memes have been pretty funny, That would have been incredible. Yeah, you tried. Now the Celtics are firing back because the Celtics had Thibodeau at practice this summer working with the team on defense doing film breakdowns.

I think it was this week.

It was this week? I think it was yesterday. They were doing film breakdowns. I know the story came out yesterday, but he was doing defensive coaching, actually coaching the Celtics.

He went through the film of the Eastern, the playoff series and broke down how the-How they won. Yeah. That's crazy.

He loves ball so much. He's got to be around ball.

They probably just asked him if he wanted to show up and watch a practice, just be around other coaches. And he probably came prepared with film and notes and a PowerPoint that he would show each player. So, yeah, this is good for the rivalry, good for the sport.

That is good for the sport. Great for the sport.

You said Mizzola said he would take Jason Brown down to the death.

He would take Jason Brown.

They said, Who would win in a fight? Yeah. Jalen Brown was like, I would win in a fight. Mizzoula said, I would win in a fight. And Mizzoula said, If I'm going to death, you're coming with me.

Yeah, I believe it. But right now with the Achilles and everything? Yeah, I got Mizzoula.

No, it was Jalen Brown.

Oh, Jalen Brown. That one, I think it would be a double kill.

I think I'd take Mizzoula still.

Yeah.

He's the type of guy who just- Take Mizzoula over anyone. He wants to be in a fight.

Yeah. And wrestling. Guys that can wrestle can-Mizzoula versus Harba. Mizzoula. Harba I remember us fucking old.

Missoula versus Dan Campbell. As shit.

Missoula. Oh, Dan Campbell.

Come on.

Missoula is the type of guy to know your pressure points. Dan Campbell. And tap you in a place that you don't even know hurts, and then you're just dead.

Now you're getting the- Dan Campbell would... Yeah, I think he'd- Come on.

He'd buy his kneecaps.

He can bite his kneecaps.

He can smash him.

Literally. Missoula.

Okay. My Hot Seats, I have two. I got to remember what my second one was. Oh, first one. Did you want to talk about LeBron?

Russell Westbrook? Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, we could talk about it.

Hilarious. I thought it was an NBA- What was the exact quote? I thought it was NBA Central. I did, too.

And then I saw it on the athletic.

I literally thought it was NBA Central. Yeah.

Russell Westbrook said that he was sick of LeBron's-I can't deal with this fake shit. His fake shit.

Did you see the Will Smith? They had Will Smith come in. It was like they were doing a team meeting. Lebron and Anthony Davis got out and left. They got up and left. Russell Westbrook went to leave. Pat Bev was like, You got to stay. Those guys want a championship. You didn't. You got to stay. Then they started fighting. Pat Bev and Russ. Yeah, about that. They started fighting. Ham came back with Anthony Davis and LeBron. Then Will Smith came in to do some type of speech.

The actor.

The actor. It was supposed to be 30-minute Q&A. Lebron asked question after question after question after question, and it went on for an hour.

So he just had a conversation with Will Smith in front of everyone.

And Russell Russell Westbrook was fed up. There's a hilarious picture of the team with Will Smith after Russell Westbrook is not smiling at all. And that's when he was like, I can't do this fake shit. I hate that fake shit.

I just can't do it. Lebron did a very funny report.

He did a podcast with Will Smith in the locker room in front of all his teammates. Yeah.

He was like, Let's do a Q&A, everyone. Then it was just LeBron, like, Question, LeBron, question, LeBron, question. I guess he was just doing movie quotes and shit.

He's looking around the room, Wait, no other questions? Well, if you guys aren't going to take advantage of this great opportunity, I'm going to.

That is so funny.

I think LeBron might be a Scientologist. I love it. I think he might be so deep into Hollywood right now that he's getting his thetons checked or whatever. He's ascending to the ninth level.

You sound like you've been sitting next to Jerry for a little bit.

No, Scientology. Scientology is a real thing, man.

It is. Let Russ be Russ. I love Russ. His stock is all the way up.

I heard Pat Bev was like, Russ, you haven't won a championship. You do not deserve to fly first class. And then Russ flipped out on him and just went nuclear.

Yeah. Fuck that. I'm on the first class.

I wrote a blog about him and everything.

Four plays on it, I'm on it. Okay, my hot seat. One is, I'll keep this brief, Wisconsin football, just because they're the worst team in college football, power for college football. It's an absolute joke what's happened to the program. They haven't scored a countdown in two games. We're losing in completely non-competitive ways. We do have the hardest schedule in the country.

What was that net graph you tweeted? I was trying to understand that. I couldn't really wrap my head around it. I couldn't really wrap my head around it. It was like worst net loss.

I can't remember who tweets it. If you can find it, Max, it's, Did we get beat as bad as it says? And this guy, I want to shout them out, tweets it every single week, where essentially, did you actually deserve to lose or was it really close and the ball bounced against you and you didn't end up... Here it is. Parker Fleming, stats of war. Great account. Did we really get Beat that bad. Net success rates in week eight. See, all the way to the right, Ohio State beat the fuck out of the Badgers.

Ohio State's a great team.

But the AD came out, Chris McAntosh came out and essentially said, We're not going to change course. We're just going to try to throw more money at it. The money is probably what the NCAA is giving every school. They're giving every school 20 million in the power of four next year. So they were going to spend it anyway. They're going to pretend that this is new money. The culture is broken. The program is broken. Football matters to universities more than people want to admit. I think that if you have a Big Ten school, an SEC school, where your football program dies, you are going to lose admissions, you're going to lose money, donors, pride in the school. So that's why the Chancellor needs to wake up, wake the fuck up. Chris McAntosh, Luke Fickle. I know both the guys. They're nice guys. I'm not going to say anything mean about them. They both are wrong for the job right now. And the sunk cost fallacy of essentially saying, We made a mistake. We're on a bad path. Let's throw more money at it. We'll get us deeper into a hole. I'm starting to think now, they're going to be bad for 5-7 years minimum.

If they just keep going down this path, it's going to be a decade.

Do you think that they're going to spend more money, or do you think that... Do you have any knowledge that they're just taking the new money that's coming in?

I don't. I think they might try to spend more money, but again, it's sunk cost fallacy where the The new money is not going to fix the culture, which is broken. Luke Fickle, I thought, was a great hire at the time. It has been a disaster. I still think he could be a good coach somewhere else. Not at Wisconsin. You have to look in the mirror and say, This is not working. We need to clean house. Who's going to look in the mirror? I don't know. Hopefully, the Chancellor does. But clean house because it's very stupid, and it's frustrating, and I'm very depressed about it.

Neutral field game, Wisconsin versus UNC.

Unc?

You think UNC?

Wisconsin-jmu.

That's JMU easy. Jmu is good.

Madison.

They're so bad. They haven't scored in two weeks. They don't score. They don't have anything. They look like they're getting punked everywhere. I feel bad for the guys on the team because they're not being put in a good spot. And now you're basically saying, Hey, we're going to just keep doing it. They have played a very, very hard schedule. We have Oregon, who's wearing the coolest jersey.

I was going to say, If that game will be viby.

Look at this. We've scored 20 points in the last four weeks.

Two touch-to- Do you guys do sad jump around? Yeah. Like, if you're getting your ass kicked.

I have friends who went to the game, the Iowa game. They said it was so depressing. It's just an absolute disaster. The only thing you could say about Luke Fickle, I will say the one thing that he has gotten a little screwed at. He has had just the worst luck with QB injuries. Every year, our QB gets injured. But still, you're getting paid a lot of money to build a roster, to build a culture. Have you thought about- Guys aren't getting better.

Let's just say, and I mean, never talk about another man's job, Fickle might not be the best fit there right now. I don't know if they're actually going to stay with him. It seems like he's probably going to be gone, no matter what they'll say right now about the guy. But who would you want next?

Jason Eck, Badger, New Mexico head coach.

No James Franklin.

Culture. I don't think James Franklin would take the job. I would take James Franklin. Jimmy Leonard as well, although that will not happen if Max still has a job. The other part I think they're doing with the sunk cost fallacy is Florida is open, Penn State is open, Auburn is probably going to be open. There's a lot of premier jobs that are open. Ole Miss, if Lane goes to Florida. Arkansas. Arkansas. So they're saying, We don't want to compete against that. Guess what? You don't compete against that. The program It's bottomed out. You have to look in the mirror and say, who are we as a program? A guy who's going for the Penn State job is not going for the Wisconsin job anymore. The gap was smaller 10 years ago, but it still was always going to be Penn State. So have some fucking self-awareness and realize where you're at and that it's a disaster. I like the Titanic. They're basically playing. The AD releasing that statement yesterday was essentially just taking a violin out as the ship goes down.

I think those guys get a bad rap, though. Shout out to the band members of the Titanic. They knew they were going to die. They still just wanted to put a little bit of joy in people's lives at the very end.

Good for them. My other hot seat is Guys, because I saw this the other day. It was the top five least attractive male hobbies. This is bullshit, but one is playing video games. Sorry, Zack. Two is collecting figurines. Three is crypto. Four is online trolling. Five is gambling. Those are the five funnest things to do.

Online trolling has got to be number one.

Says playing video games, dude.

You think online trolling...

Memes. Heem's just got his entire life taken down.

It's only online trolling if you're trolling people that the girl doesn't like, though. If you're trolling people... Or if you're trolling somebody that the girl likes. If you're trolling somebody that the girl doesn't like, they're like, Good for you.

I think they're I think there might be some women who, if they found out their boyfriend had a burner account and was probably tweeting mean things about her being like, She just showed up, ruined the whole vibe. That would be That would probably be online trolling. That's where my mind went. Guys can't have hobbies. They can't have hobbies. My cool thrown is Stella Blue coffee. I have it right in front of me. I have the Espresso Sweet Cream. I also have the Espresso Cafe Mocha because Thursday, get ready, we are finally going to have some cans that are going to be available for purchase, ready to drink. That's a little teaser. We'll have everything. Just be ready on Thursday. Be ready. They're very, very good. They're good. They're very, very good. My other Cool Throne is RG3, because I know it's not taking season, but we can just mark this down. We probably have the winner for take of the year.

Yeah, I'd say it's definitely up there.

This is RG3.

I mean, I guess, skip Bayliss saying that Travis Hunter should have gotten baptized.

I don't know. This one is a- That's a strong one. This one is a double whammy. August 19th, RG3 said, I'm convinced that the Indianapolis Colts are trying to tank for Arch Manning. Double whammy. Shitting on Daniel Jones, propping up Arch Manning, You've been so wrong both directions.

That is pretty bad. He also said, Hey, it's a disservice to Jaden Daniels to keep comparing him to me when that's literally all he did last year was make that... Listen, RG3, he chases takes. He gets takes off.

That's okay. He gets takes off. Zack, Hot Seed Cool Throne.

My Hot Seed this week is going to be Amazon Web Services. I believe that we gave Bezos too much of the cloud. We should break up this weather system. Somehow, one mistake over AWS leads to just half the Internet imploding, lives being-Let me ask you a question.

I'm not familiar with AWS. Does it take down your finger to press the button?

I think you could spend hours attempting to press a button into an abyss because the cloud that you entrusted to back the button has withered away.

This is a great take by Zack.

I thought AWS was award-winning silence because there were no podcasts up.

Good point, BFT. That was a podcast up. No, it wasn't.

It got up. It's up right now.

It was up late.

We should break up this cloud into smaller clouds. This storm system is too big.

I do feel bad for Max. I'm busting his balls. He got absolutely screwed on Sunday night. Do you want to tell us what happened on Sunday night?

Yeah, it was tough. Football nights are late nights, we talked about this a lot. 2: 45 finish up. It's a great feeling. You're like, All right, all you got to do, upload this and then go to bed and wake up and have your Monday. I go into our back-end, and it's just glitching out like crazy. Different alerts are getting hit at me. There's different question marks everywhere. I've never seen anything like it.

I think it's You're not ready for that. No. Your brain is not ready for question marks and alerts.

Where there should be Barstool logos, it was just question marks. That's a bad sign for anything. Then I think it's like, Oh, fuck our own system. This is bullshit. No one's awake to help me right now. The Barstool system is just fucked. I tweet something out from the PMT account being like, We're working to fix this. I wasn't working on shit. I couldn't have done anything.

It is crazy when Amazon goes down, almost the entire internet goes down.

Yeah, and then everyone was just replying to my tweet being like, We're working on this. And then everyone was like, It's the entire internet. What the fuck are you I'm not going to do. And I was like, Good point. I'm not going to do anything. So then I just stayed up for the next five and a half hours just refreshing our back end, seeing if it would just magically start working again. And then at one point, I just couldn't keep my eyes open. So I just kept setting 20-minute alarms. So I would fall asleep, wake up 20 minutes later, check my phone, see if anyone was awake or if it magically started working. So it would be 20 minutes, sleep, refresh, check my email, nothing. 20 minutes, refresh, check my email. Nothing. Until 07: 00 AM central time. I actually woke... I didn't even wake up to the alarm. I woke up to Big Cat calling me. Him just being like, Pete, so we're good to go. And then we were good to go.

Yeah, because Pete, I saw it. I'm usually the first time I saw it. It called Pete right away. And Pete said, It just came back. I can't get in touch with Max. I was like, I'll call him. So you were in your You're in your 20-minute face. Yeah, I was in my 20-minute nap window.

I was in my 20-minute nap window. Because there's one thing like staying awake when you're working on something. Yeah. I was just sitting there. There was nothing I could do.

That's so frustrating.

Until somebody else could wake up or until Amazon could just start working again.

Sorry to the AWS, but it was not Max's fault.

Probably every other podcast had this, too, right?

That's a Barstool thing.

That is not a me thing. That was my first crack. I was like, Why is every other podcast? But still, this is also a good reason to subscribe to the YouTube. Youtube was up, but we apologize. It was not a Max for getting to press the button. We were getting AWS attacked. The The Cloud.

They don't want you to listen to this podcast. The cloud fucked us.

The cloud fucked us hard.

My sleep schedule, diet is going to be bad again this week. I'm saying it.

Okay, that's fine. It's AWS. Fuck you, AWS. You made max fat this week. It's not fair. Max made his nachos, by the way. Great job.

They were awesome nachos. They were really good nachos. Good nachos. I'm going to put a smile on my face.

We're going to have to think of something else for this.

Yeah.

You're Max's Deli.

Oh, Max's Deli, Max's Rib house.

Rib house? That might be a little too daunting.

Max's Lasagna Castle.

That I could probably figure out.

Max's Meatballs.

Max's Meatballs would be awesome.

Meatballs would be good.

Meatballs would be good.

Okay, good hot Cool turn?

My cool turn this week is Baker Mayfield. There's a lot of narratives out this morning saying, Baker Mayfield did this, Baker Mayfield did that, saying he had a bad game. I just want to go on record and say the rational side of the internet and sports fans understand that this is an inflate gate situation. Those balls were getting thrown high for a reason, and I think it might be helium-based. Oh.

You think they're out to get your boy. Okay.

I think they are. I think it might be a smear campaign. I think a backroom, equipment room, the job might have went down. I think Baker should rest assured that when he's back on the field playing with regulation equipment, that those balls are going into hands and not into seats.

I think this is going to be good for Baker in the long term because now he just gets a whole bunch of people talking shit about him. Facts. Yeah, adding some... They were being too nice to Baker.

When you were watching the game, at what point were you saying to yourself, Oh, this is a problem?

First quarter didn't feel good. There's been a lot of Amunra talk recently on the podcast, and I was like, Of course, he decides to just break it off in us early on the bucks. He's hitting spin moves that you see in video games. And then, gives us too fast. It seems like he would just break once a drive. But then when we got that turnover and the field goal before half, I was like, This is a little bit of momentum switch.

This is Baker time.

We're back in it. Yeah, let's do it. It's show time. And then the game just never opened up. It felt like it wanted to burst. And then that touch down was going to be hitting both sides. Let's do it. Let's have a game. We never had a game.

You have one person There's one single tweet that backs you. This is from Christopher. He said, This is inflate gate. The ball's got helium in them. Every single Baker Mayfield throw his five years over his receiver's head.

Christopher has accurate information.

Yeah, and he has no responses, no likes on this tweet. 187 views. Shout out, Christopher.

He's getting suppressed.

Yeah, he is. Yeah, the algorithm. Yeah, you're right. Not followed by anyone we know. Bezos. That's just Christopher out there. Shout out ChrisSon21.

Also, the reps pandering to the home crowd, pretty much doing crowd work. Yeah, we'll just...

Hussy.

Yeah, Hussy was crazy last night. And guess what, Dan? We're going to give you your challenge back. Give it up for Dan, everybody.

What's that inflection? Why are you so excited? I'm almost excited to get these things back.

Yeah, next up, we got Jared. Jared to the stage.

And then he felt a certain type of way about it. He felt good about the challenges. He's like, I'll do it again. Yeah, I'll do it. He's challenging the spot.

Hey, Dan, have this. I didn't like it. You didn't ask for it, but I'm giving it to you.

You could have time out back.

Look at us, man. We're a Penny Soul.

Penny Soul on the Pole.

Okay, let's get to our interview with our good, good friend, recurring guest and colleague, Ryan Rosillo.

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From the Ryan Rasillo podcast. Go subscribe, please. All AWLs, go subscribe to the new feed that he has on iTunes, on Spotify, on YouTube. Go subscribe. Ryan, great to see you. Colleagues now, your first episode out, November third. How many takes are you... Do the takes build up in your head? Have you been calling people for hours on end, trying to get the takes off with a few week break here?

Yeah, real just take hoarding. And obviously, because it's new, I really have to let it fly now. So me, I'm going to try to come up with a bunch of things to get attention, maybe expanding the college football play up to 64 teams is going to be one. Is Base America's pastime again, which I'm nice Last night was a lot of fun. I walked into a bar in Canada right as they were down 3: 1 to grab some food. And the place, she's like, Are you here for the Jays game? I was like, I am now. Springer Yard. By the way, Springer doesn't happen without Hartford. Hartford has it. Yeah. New England's Rising Star. It just continues to deliver in ways that I wish people would account for a little bit more. And then I was watching Sportsnet, so it was tragically hip into the break, place is going wild. I was really happy for the Blue Jays. I love all Toronto fans, except for Raptors fans, as we know.

Yeah. So have you had any takes over the last few weeks that you would have put out that would have then become freezing cold takes later that you can call yourself out on?

No, that's a really good question. Good question. You guys are good.

Thank you. What's your dumbest thought been since you've been off a podcast, Mike, that you're like, I'm really glad I didn't have to do a podcast after that?

Probably that LSU is still talented enough to hang with anybody. Yeah. Yikes. Let's just figure out this offense.

As you pointed out, they lost a tackle on the road.

Yeah. They did. Tough environment. That's what I think is the best part about playoff expansion is just the excuses that are just completely irrelevant prior to having 12 teams. You're like, Dude, it's over. It's done. So there's certainly an argument to be said for still being alive. Lsu is not still alive. They I'm kidding around. I think once the South Carolina game, I'm like, This is a very talented, not great team. But the offensive line is a huge issue. But yeah, I was trying to get it out there. I think the thing that I'm always really impressed with is the self the importance of some of us, where it's like, if I can just get this messaging out there, there might be someone in the committee that sees this tweet. And then when this team is being debated, they're going to reference this tweet from mid-October and go, Vandy is a a little bit more lively. I went to a Vandy Mizzou game once, and people were apologizing ahead of time. They're like, Just so you know, it's a little different than other SEC stops, but it looks like it's back or new.

Well, yeah, the stadium construction is finally finished. Vandy and Mizzou are the two teams that I feel like have been under construction stadium-wise for about 15 years.

Kansas, too. Kansas as well. Yeah, Kansas is- But Mizzou is still not done.

But Mizzou, someone will be lighting up for a field goal. They'll be like, Okay, so they're just kicking into someone's backhoe? What is going on here? And that happened for a decade.

Yeah, because it was a pile of rocks forever, right? And then it might be smart for recruiting. Just always have construction going on in the stadium. I'd be like, When you get here, I remember when We took the tour in college at UVM, and they were like, And we're going to get cable in the dorm soon, which we never did. And then the older guys are like, They said the same thing at our tour as well. So yeah, that might be something. Just be under construction the entire time because you want to make a decision, whether it's in your professional life, personal life, or is there room for growth?

Yeah, that's what they do at Country Club. It's like, Yeah, the clubhouse, we're doing a complete renovation on it right now, and it's going to be done next spring, just in time for the season. Okay, yeah, sure. I'll sign up. That's awesome. State-of-the-art facilities.

Yeah, that's why your dues are a little bit more. We had to pump them up this year.

You guys are going to get hit a little bit harder. Track again, everywhere. We're getting those installed. Then you're on the driving range a year later being like, Where is it? Now, you're supposed to bring a range finder.

Yeah.

Okay, so the new podcast feed, Same Old, people are going to say, Oh, what's Ryan doing? Same show. You have Cerruti and nephew Kyle are with you. Sorry, Kyle are with you. Everyone should expect it's the same show. I know that people, when the news was announced, they're like, Oh, he's going to change. He's going to start guessing that ass every day. I feel like he- He and Nicki Smokes are going to be doing blow at the bar. You're doing the same show and you're in California, and pretty much nothing is changing.

Yeah, that's pretty much it. The last week has been a bit of a reminder when I left ESPN and went to Ringer and then Spotify. It was like the second I started putting out content, it's like, Here we go, now that he's not at ESPN anymore. I'm literally the exact same person. And so it was a nice little reminder seven years later that it's happening all over again. You say one nice thing about Sabrina Carpenter, and it's like, Oh, he fits in perfect with Portnoy, weirdo.

Ryan leaves the Ringer, all of a sudden, he likes girls. Yeah.

Well, also, that's a double whammy because Dave does have in our contract, we have to tweet about the WMBA at least once a week.

Yeah. No, I'm excited about that. Mine are going to be mostly stat stuff.

Okay.

That's fair.

Some four. But yeah, I thought Sabrina Carpenter was awesome in that podcast sketch, and I think as podcasters, I think we even have a greater appreciation for it. So you try to compliment her, and then it's like, Oh, here we go. And the The funnier thing is I gave out a couple of pics to fulfill my contract, and it was like, Now he's giving up. And you're like, Dude, I've been giving out these mid-ass pics for a year and a half. Like, Oh, now he's saying mid, though.

Oh, true.

Yeah, you're on.

That's sketchy by you.

Yeah. Have you had a conversation with the boys about the podcast feed? Because there's been some podcast feed issues over here.

No. Of all All the stuff that I've observed, I can't wait to not be involved in all of it. I don't know if there's a first-class flight issue. I don't really go that many places, so I'm out of that. The feed issue is a big reason why. When you go to market and Luckily, you guys never really have to because you're so powerful. But when you start walking into these meetings and it's like, Where's your feed? I'm like, I don't have my feed. It's massive. It's a massive, massive difference. So luckily, this time around, any new place that I I was talking to you, it was like, Okay, we can figure out a way to get you your feed after a certain amount of time. I don't know if that's what you were asking.

No, it was just basically busting Max's balls. It's the first time Max has ever missed a feed. It was on Monday morning with the show coming out a little bit late. But your guys are on top of it.

It also-Oh, I see what you're saying.

Everyone, do subscribe to it. It was also a nice Welcome to Barstool moment. I texted you right after, Ryan, but you announced your new feed where everyone could subscribe, and then it quickly became a Dave Portnoy versus Jerry Kraba's fight, and that was. That was great. It was like, somewhere under 15 of these quote tweets is Ryan's new feed. We just got to find it.

It was good. It was almost like it was done on purpose. We were like, Let's get a little controversy going here. But yeah, back to the original point. To me, it's the exact same show. It's three days a week. We may change up some of the release times a little bit because maybe some of those later Friday that were coming out late, especially if it's hitting the East Coast at five o'clock in the afternoon on a Friday, isn't the optimum time to drop new stuff. But yeah, probably a little bit more active on a couple of other things. But I've been doing this a long time. I don't know. If anything, it'd be exhausting to try to be somebody different.

Yeah. Now, are you going to start covering and watching the NFL?

I know. You guys love the NFL.

Love the NFL. Yeah, Ryan always hits us up at 1: 00 PM on Sunday. Just checking in, wanted to chat. Can't chat then, Ryan.

Games are on. Still so mad, I fell for it.

Yeah, it's totally backfired, though. I don't know, did Hank tell you what happened? Because it was going to be my little thing with you guys, but I couldn't do it every week. I had to try to sneak them in. So right at kick-off week one, I call Big Cat, and he answers. And I was just like, What are you up to, man? And then he's like, God damn it. I can't believe I answered this, but he did. And then he just hung up on me. So then I gave it a couple of weeks, and I randomly call Hank. And Hank's like, Hello, which has happened maybe twice ever that I've called Hank. And I was like, What are you doing? He's like, I missed my flight.

Cliving to Pittsburgh.

And then I was like, Well, shit. I was like, This is back. This isn't really working. And I think I said something like, Hey, are you seeing anybody or anything? No. He's like, No. And I was like, Man, this whole thing. I was like, It didn't I was like, This is what I was trying to do. He was just like, Yeah, okay, cool. He got me because his mind was elsewhere. He wasn't where it was supposed to be. He was so miserable because I've had to do that weird Pittsburgh, How can I get a flight out of here thing? Then I think I tried it with PFT once, and it was like a DM.

I'm not going to try it anymore. You sent me a DM one time, and then I don't think I replied to it for four days. And it was like, Yeah, this is probably... I don't know if this bit's paying off for you, but it's a good bit.

It's good. Keep going. Go through the wall. Yeah. Okay, so let's talk some college football. So let's start with your LSU Tiger's in the fact that Brian Kelly feels like he might be on the hot seat. Because you actually are plugged in with some people there. Lsu, they're not going to go to the playoff this year.

It doesn't feel like it.

What are they going to do? What's the future? Is Brian Kelly going to get another year? I heard that he went on vacation in the bye week. It just never felt like a good fit, and it's just proving to be not a great fit.

Okay, but I think one of the problems with fit, especially when it's in the south, it's like, Oh, you have to be a Southern person. And then it's like, we always default to this, Oh, he's this great cultural fit. I still don't think a lot of people realize Saban isn't from Alabama. No. Even like Matt Brown of Texas, he's winning. He's like, Oh, he's a perfect fit for the Texas culture. It's like, Yeah, but we fall for this. So in the South, I feel like it's even harder when you You don't feel Southern or you don't have connections to the high schools organically. But Kelly's track record was incredible. The fact that they would want to back up the bus for him and pay him a ton of money, I never really had an issue with. Whenever I look at the fan bases, they get really, really mad about whether it's like... I know that it's not been to the standard because the only standard at LSU is winning a national championship. But it's not like they're terrible. I think this year it's disappointing and you're continuing to see an offense. It's like it doesn't make any sense with Nussmaier and the fact they can't run the football again this year.

All these numbers, they're pretty alarming. But whenever a team that's at that level decides, Okay, get rid of this guy. The first thing I always thought, like A&M should be thrilled right now, but A&M was like, Elko. Yeah. That's the best we can do. And look, they've been terrific this year. But in that moment, the number of fan bases that they want the guy out, and then they see the available replacements, they're almost always disappointed. Like, Penn State is throwing around names right now. It's like, why would any of these people go there that are currently this happy with where they're at. So it ends up always being disappointing. Look, I think Kelly deserves another year, but it really... Sometimes those spots are just so intense that you can admit the culture go I'm not going to be miserable if I don't have to do this again.

Yeah. By the way, the fit wasn't like he's not a Southerner. It was more that he's incredibly unlikable, and that will immediately speed up his timeline by a year because he's just a dick.

Yeah, but it has everything to do with wins and losses. Yeah, of course. No one would care about any of this Belichick stuff if they were showing any signs of improvement at UNC, which would be the funniest thing of people having to justify, but considering they're also not very good. You can't get over the content. I can't believe that story. I can't believe the leaked video that Pablo had, and then her describing like, Hey, is Enzone redundant Yeah.

Should that be Red Zone?

We were saying that video, the winner of that entire video is Matt Patricia, the most patient man in the world, and just sitting there and be like, Listen, my buddy's happy. I'm not going to do it. I can't say anything.

Also, Matt Patricia, the fact that he very easily could have ended up at UNC this year. Instead, he's at Ohio State coaching the best defense in the country, probably having a great time, probably really enjoying himself. Big winner in that split up.

She's going to be running a company, though. That confidence is undeniable. I don't know when it is. I mean, obviously, she's got some years to go here, but to sit next to Belichick and another coach like Patricia and then explain like, Hey, does that make sense? Yeah. And they're like, Yeah, actually, it does make sense. But if they were five and two, think about it. Now, granted, UNC is not on that level. But imagine if this were at Auburn and they were five and two, and then Auburn fans would be like, It's totally fine. What are you talking about? This is great. Massive turnaround, tons of energy. You should see the quad. We really only care... Kelly, I get it. He's tough. He's really tough. And he put his foot in his mouth the way he went after that report about the offense. And I could also understand, Hey, we just won a game. And the first thing you're going to do is talk about the offense here. But it's a lingering issue for a team that felt like it was loaded. But I don't know. I mean, after that Vandy game, but we saw it coming.

We saw it coming in.

Yeah. So real quick, we touched on Ohio State there. They are the best team in the country. Are you ready? We've been doing this for about a month now. Are you ready to say this team is better than last year's team?

Wow. Yeah, I think Sane's even better. They don't even need him. That's the thing that's wild about it. I was looking at the third and long, like anything third and four or longer, those numbers. Nobody converts anything against this defense. And you think losing Knowles and then losing Chip Kelly, you bring in two new coordinators, you have Sane, you're like, Okay, is this going to be as as seamless a transition? And it is. Now, I caution all of us that fall under this trap all the time of that six or seven game stretch, where we were doing it before Oregon lost to Indiana, where it's like, okay, it feels like there's three teams, and there's a gap. It's like, okay, yeah, but two of those teams lost. And the Indiana win at Oregon, I think, is the single best win of the entire college football season. And I also think Oregon is getting dropped down too far on the polls after the fact, because I think Indiana really is that good this year. So Now to look at Ohio State as this unbeatable team, their record and their stats are going to say that. And yeah, it feels like it's them and everybody else right now.

But I feel like we make this mistake every single year when we're talking about whatever the gap is between how many teams can win a title versus who the actual favorite is. I, like everybody else, you've watched Ohio State, what they did to Washington's offense, just humiliating Minnesota. That was the night game, and they're coming out of the tunnel And you're like, All right, here we go. Some big 10 action. You're like, This is humiliating. And the rest of their schedule isn't really going to be that challenging for them. So this should be pretty easy.

It just feels like they are a step above everyone else. But I know you don't love the 12-team playoff. We've debated it ad nauseam. It does feel like there's some good parody in that next grouping, Indiana being at the top of it, but Indiana, Oregon, Texas A&M. Notre Dame is good. I know people wrote them off after the first two games. They've figured out their defense. I like C. J. Carr. Who in that next groupings would you say you're highest on? And to be like, that's the team that will maybe take down Ohio State. Miami.

Yeah. Miami For me, they get the terrible Beck game, which it's more normal to be a really good team to look absolutely terrible one of these twelve games. Yeah. I feel like you remember before Clemson won titles and Van Hilton and I had argued about it or whatever, but he did a whole thing on Clemsoning, which is a very ACC thing. It's like, Clemson is going to get up to this big start. And then my whole point was, do you know how many different programs around the country that get off to a good start that have these high expectations and losing late in the season? It's like, Oh, we did it again. It's like, No, that's actually normal. That's normal, Oklahoma. That's normal, Miami. Granted, Miami blowing that game to Syracuse is probably not normal, considering what was at stake last season. But I expect that to happen. It's very rare that we have any of these teams that are going to go clean throughout the entire season. Now you're asking to win even more games to get through this expanded playoff. That's a ridiculous ask to go, You can't lose any of these games, or maybe you can lose one and win the national championship game.

Then, of course, you have Ohio State losing two and then still looking clearly like the best team last year. But normally, a lot of years, I wouldn't call it bias. I just think the SEC conversation was really stupid for a bunch of years. Now, other teams have won titles, and I think the argument could be, Okay, well, if it's only about winning titles, then why were all these people when the SEC was winning all these titles, still arguing that it wasn't the best conference? Now that the Big Ten has won back-to-back titles, the thing that you argue against, you're using as your main talking point to talk about a shift in the conferences. I don't think there's any question the SEC is deeper than all these other conferences. I mean, sometimes when I go through it and you're like, Texas is 10th. I think that was what it was before this last weekend. I don't really love any of these SEC teams this year as real title contenders. Maybe it's Alabama.

Ty Simpson is awesome.

He's awesome. He's a baller. The two fourth down throws against Mizzou. They're now four wide receivers deep. I think Hill, the 240-pound back that we saw in the Tennessee game. And look, that was a really good game. I think Tennessee is pretty good, but you get to pick six at the end. It's a massive, at the very least, 10-point swing, maybe a 14-point swing. So their defense looks like it's getting a little bit better. Earlier in the season, you looked at Bamis D and you're like, Where are the dudes? Where are the two guys that just destroy the other team's offense coming off the edge? There were some rushing attempt numbers against them that were pretty alarming, like Georgia ran at 70 yards per carry, and then they go and face Mizzou, who's got Hardee, who's the number one running back in the country at that point, and they shut them down. I think they're growing. The Simpson to receiver group is my favorite, probably, collection of... If there's one thing to point to, whether it's a front or a secondary, or sometimes, I don't know that we talk about runningbacks enough anymore. But like, Simpson and those receivers is something I like better than anything that A&M has, better than anything Ole Miss has.

I mean, Ole Miss has been a weird team this year. I think they're in that Tennessee group. Like, yeah, they're good, but I don't think they're as good as Indiana or Ohio State. And I don't even know that I think Alabama is as good as those two teams. And A&M, for all the defensive numbers that they had prior to that Arkansas game, granted, Arkansas is a weird sneaky, can to hang around for three hours. I'm not as high on Reid as I am as, say, a Simpson or maybe, probably even Trinidad, although it looked like Trinidad fell apart there in that Georgia game.

Or Gunner Stockton. Gunner Stockton looks batbeat. Gunner Stockton has had two games now where it's not looked great, but in big moments at Tennessee and then Ole Miss this past weekend, he's got that he's a dude in the moment feel to him, where It's not great. It's not perfect. Probably if they get in the playoff, they maybe get into deep waters that he can't get out of. But he has twice now impressed me in like, Hey, your back's against the wall. You got to start making plays right now. Otherwise, your season is going to be fucked. And he's done it.

Yeah, you're probably right. I guess the biggest problem is that we're holding Georgia to the Georgia standard, and this Georgia team is not even close to those teams. The defense isn't as good. They don't run the ball consistently. And I think the Stockton fourth down throw against Tennessee was like, okay, because I felt like coming out of last year to this year, you're like, wait, you guys thought that guy was good at the end of the year last year? Like, he almost got decapitated and everybody kept like, oh, man, this guy's got so much juice. It's like, yeah, that's awesome. He survived that play. But I don't know that I necessarily trust him. And you don't even have to listen to me. Herb Street brought it up during our broadcast. I don't know if he's done it in any podcast. But there's a tendency for him because he's such a good runner. He's a tough player. He's a gamer that he's going to bail a little bit quicker. But that comeback against Ole Miss to put up that many points for an offense that you're like, Do you trust this defense to get the other team to go three now when you needed to?

And it's like the fourth quarter of the script entirely flipped. So Georgia is good, but they're incredibly one-dimensional. And yeah, maybe Stockton will make a couple of plays, but over the course of three hours against another really good football team, I don't know that he'll be able to keep up with the other better quarterbacks.

Yeah. And to your point about Miami's loss that you made a second ago, Louisville on a Friday night, that's a tough matchup for anybody. Jeff Brauch. I think Louisville on Friday nights, they're the most dangerous team in America, and they have been for years. If you don't know about Louisville Friday nights, they play different. They play different there. I'm not riding Miami off just yet or anybody that loses to Louisville on a Friday night this year. I think that's something that you have to put in its own bag. Okay, the weird things happen. Let's move on. To your point about the SEC and the Big Ten, The answer to why Big Ten fans are now saying, Oh, yeah, we beat the big bad SEC. They were just lying before when the SEC was clearly better.

We moved the goalpost.

They were just like, Hey, ESPN is in the tank for the SEC. They're actually not that good. That was just cope. And now that they are actually doing things and winning championships, now they can be like, Yeah, we beat the big bad bully on the block. Now we're the big bad bully on the block. Oh, big talk. Yeah, just lying.

Hand up.

Yeah, I think a lot of it in what we saw It just reminds me of politics. Politics, to me, is when there's an NFL game, and you guys love the NFL, so you'll know what I'm talking about.

Yeah, huge.

But when the official turns on the mic, there's 80,000 people in the stadium, and the official's like, There's two penalties on the play. First is illegal motion, offense, and then everybody He goes crazy because their team is on defense. And then it's like, offside's defense. Then everybody in the stadium boos. They're like, He just said there was two flags. He just said there were two flags, and you got so excited about the first one. Everybody knew that the second one was going to be on you. And yet you still cheered for the first one. I think that is a perfect example of how people argue with each other over politics all day long. It's like the thing that you can point to is a really good chance your guy is going to do the exact same thing or some version of it in six hours. So what's the fucking point to any of this stuff? And what I think happened is that a lot of people didn't want to believe, because this is another thing, no one actually wants to believe like, Hey, what if I'm not good enough? What if that person is better than me?

You're just going to make excuses. So instead of saying the SEC won seven straight titles with four different teams, and for the Big Ten expanded. To go through that exercise with the Big Ten, it was like, Give me the four teams that could win a national championship over a seven-year period. It was a really hard thing to do. Now, look, you bring in Oregon, you bring in SC. Washington plays in a national championship game. They were in the playoff. Then there's also UCLA. So it's an easier argument to be made now. But it felt like instead of just admitting it, that it was happening, that it was just a collective agreement from the rest of the country It's now it has to all be propaganda. So to fight that propaganda, I think what we have now is like, No, this is what you're supposed to do. Michigan wins one, Ohio State wins one. Okay, we're the best. And then we just keep hammering that messaging over and over again. It's like people got so mad about an advertisement catchphrase of it just means more. It was like, Well, that's not true. Who's keeping track of whether or not that's true or not?

It was true. That was true. That part was legit. Yeah.

Because the other thing, it's like the Jokuj MVP vote. When I was going around talking to teams before I put my vote in, I would ask front offices and coaching staffs. I'd be like, Look, I need help on the defensive guys. Are there people I'm missing? Is there somebody I'm not thinking about? Somebody that you think we don't really I understand. Then every team that I would talk to, and it's less than 20 and it's over 10, would say, Hey, who do you vote for MVP? I'd be like, I'm actually voting Jokuj. They're like, Okay, good. Every team, except for one team that was like, Hey, I think it's SGA's year, what the team did, He deserves the best player to acknowledge. It's the same thing as anybody that's gone from one of the other conferences to the SEC. No one has ever said to me privately. Not one has ever said, You know what? This place actually isn't as good as everybody says it is. Every single person that goes in is like, Okay, now, I thought it was maybe a little overrated or a little stupid. So yeah, I get all the propaganda accusations.

I haven't worked at ESPN now for, what, six years? I mean, if that's what it was with me, then I don't know why I would still be doing it because I'm not getting paid anymore. But do you want to keep track of Game Day's visits? Now do Big Noons. Did you see the Fox Sports stadium rankings that Bear and I talked about who works on the show? They had Michigan number one. So I think the funny thing is Fox gets to believe that it was only an SEC-ESPN thing, that Fox is like, You want to see some fucking messaging?

Yeah. Well, we got it. Give us your top five. What are your top five stadiums?

Well, it's LSU1. There's this collection of like, SEC schools that when it's right, like when Tennessee is right, it's so much fun. Yes. I think the swap is in that conversation for when it's right. I don't know. You've got this moisture all over you and you're like, This is brutal. Pound for pound, no one can hang with Otson. What Oregon does with a lower number. I was there when they were really starting to crank that thing up. Standing on the sideline, the USC sideline. Remember when Barkley played there as a freshman, and you're standing on the USC sideline And I remember Stanford, Steve and I just looking at each other and being like, How can this place be this loud? How can it be this loud when they don't have 100,000 people in here? I guess I would say LSU, Tennessee, Florida, Oregon. And if I have to a Big Ten. This is so biased. Yeah. Well, I've been to 60 plus of these places.

Can I throw a Big Ten at you? What was your fifth pick?

Well, I haven't been to Iowa.

That's what I was going to say. Kinnock is a very sneaky, underrated. I don't think if you built a stadium like that today, it would be allowed. But the front row at Kinnec, you're basically on the field. You're standing essentially like you could tap the players on the shoulder. That's how close it is.

Yeah, that's the same thing at Oregon at that point. I was turning around going, and then I was like, I think... Because normally, you'd like to stand on the visiting team side just to be away from all the chaos. It's a little bit easier to move around. And that Oregon crowd. I was like, I don't want to be part of the enemy here. Let's go over to the Oregon side because it doesn't even feel safe over here. So I haven't been to Kinnock. I've been to Ohio State. Ohio State is good. I don't think it's like, Oh, my God. I haven't been to Michigan. I've never heard one person ever discuss Michigan other the Fox tweet, which, again, you guys are aligned with here, so I don't mean to put you guys in the crosshairs. So are you.

Yeah, welcome to the club.

But I'm not on the show.

But you might be.

I think there's no The thing is, one of my good friends who you met Big Cat, he told me something years ago that I think is really important to remember. He's like, Out of the 20 of us that are still very close, maybe 10 get together, he's like, Half of them are actually rooting against you.

That's a good point. Yeah.

Right. So I think everybody would sit there and welcome me with open arms. There's probably two people on the show that are like, This fucking guy is going to get all these reps.

Could you say Brandon? Yeah, just say Brandon. Yeah. Just say his name.

Brandon agrees with you about Iowa, by the way.

We should get... I mean, you do know College Ball. So wait, so what's your Big Ten pick? Is it Happy Valley?

Yeah, it's Happy Valley. It's awesome. But I always have... I think I've told this story before. There was always a little annoyance when a Penn State staffer came up to me during a whiteout. He's like, That's the thing you've ever seen? I'm like, No, it isn't. And he was just looking at me like, You asshole. And I went, It's unbelievable. This is unbelievable. Being one of the five best atmospheres in the sport is a really great accolade. And the guy was like, Whatever. Was so mad about it in the way that you would be mad about it when you only know one thing. I was like, All right. And look, just honorable mention is Lubik, Halloween beating number one, Texas. I don't know what it's like week to week, but it's still my favorite sporting event that I've ever been to, and it was just so scary. I mean, it was like another portal. I don't know. Are there any that I'm leaving off?

Wrigley Field, when they have Northwestern versus Iowa, is a pretty iconic location where they play in the outfield. What's that? Wrigley, where they play in the outfield grass, and sometimes they don't have enough grass for an in-zone. That's a lot of fun.

Play only going one way.

I would say Lubic is a good call because you take your life into your hand when you go into Lubic. The tortillas flying everywhere could kill somebody.

It's an open carry.

Yeah, it's got the open carry aspect and also the fact that it's just so isolated. You're in the middle of nowhere where you go in. You're like, Am I ever really going to be able to leave this place? It's intimidating.

I like Florida State. I went to Florida State, Notre Dame.

I like Florida State a lot.

Yeah. Especially, I think they've done a lot of renovations on the stadium. I'd like to see that. I thought Florida State was a very cool vibe. I think if I remember walking in, they have some of those... It looks like the Coliseum a little bit. It's cool at night, especially.

Yeah. I think Florida State also has an atmosphere when it's going right. That is pretty wild. Look, I think Wisconsin, actually, I know. I know, dude. It's bad. But I was there. Well, you were there, weren't you, there for the Tarroll prior game when they were number one and they came? Yeah, 2010. Yeah. So I went to that game. That That was incredible. Some people like Norman. Texas is better than it used to be, but I don't know that anybody ever brings it up as the best thought.

What about Kyle Field?

I've been to one game there, and it was awesome. You could pick... Athens is great, too, on that Saturday afternoon as the sun is going down type of thing. I just don't want to pick six or seven SEC schools. But if you pick 10, I don't think you're top four, because I think even the graphic had four Big Ten schools, and then fifth, they were like, All right, we're going to put LSU somewhere here.

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Wait, that just triggered a memory right there. I don't know if you saw, but speaking of Fox, we did the show out in Utah a couple of weeks ago, and I got Rinalded. Have you been Rinalded?

Well, I mean, if you mean have an awesome time- You Oh, yeah. No. Yeah, I've been Rinalded a few times.

I say it in all loving, but he breaks you down in an incredibly fascinating way, and you're just sitting there like, Where are the cameras? I'm getting Rinalded.

All-time Rinaldi. Went with a bunch of buddies to the Masters. The ESPN, I think, is the only time I'd ever ask them for tickets or anything, and they were like, Not a ton has worked out for this guy. Why don't we hook him up? So they gave me like, passes Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, the Double Eagle Hosting thing, which if you're doing the Masters, right. So we go to the Wednesday stuff and walk in. And I'm with some college buddies, too, so they hadn't really ever seen like, Hey, what can you I'm like, I can't do anything. Trust me, at Augusta, there's nothing that I can do here that makes it special. Then Rinaldi sees us, goes up, and Rinaldi's like, And if you guys can walk the course today, walk it backwards. The perspective that you're going to have over the next four days. And he just gets right into you. It was awesome. He renaultied me once at a hotel lobby, in the middle of the day. I was like, Ryan. He's like, How's it going? And I explained to him, the important thing to remember. And I was like, This fucking guy.

He's the best.

He's a therapist.

I feel like getting Rinaldi at the masters, that's peak Rinaldi.

Yeah, That might be heaven. You might have gone to heaven and not realized it.

The birds chirping. You probably hear the piano music in the background.

My friends were like, We can't believe that. That was a real thing that just happened. It felt like he was doing a TV TV segment for us. That's why he's the best.

That's why he's the best. What fan base in college football gives you the most shit?

Well, it was Indiana last year without question, but I was like, Look, Indiana fans are even mean on threads, which is impossible.

Shout out threads. By the way, I've had this out. We have some Indiana fans here. They're really fucking good this year.

Really good.

Last year, I feel like that was A draw. The comments about Indiana, they should have been in the playoff. I never said they shouldn't have been in the playoff. But the comments about Indiana, when they step up, is it going to look the same? It did not. That all proved to be true. This year, it's different. Mendoza's special. This is a different Indiana team than the conversations we had last year, where they'll point to the 10-point loss in Notre Dame. Anyone who watched that game, that wasn't a 10-point game. So This year's different. If you're not giving Indiana credit this year, then you're a fucking moron, and you're stuck in... I don't know where you're stuck. You're just not watching the games. They're awesome.

Totally great. Last year, it was something where I get so mad about the expansion. We've covered all this stuff and the realignment. And you go, Do you realize when you have an 18-team league, you can have a really weird scheduling year? So when you look through the 18 teams, other than the Ohio State game, they played, I think, seven of the worst teams in the conference. And of course, they never played anybody out of conference. So then when they had the Ohio State game where it felt like, are you guys just running clock to make this score appear to be a little bit better. And then that's why I think Ohio State came right back. They're like, Let's put another countdown on these fucking guys. And that had a lot to do with Signetti. And look, to Signetti, I shouldn't even say it that way. What Signetti has done here is insane.

Insane.

All the There are other coaches that come into a program and host those luncheons. And it's like, okay, we wait till we get our guys in here. And then they fire coordinators like, all right, now we have the coordinators we want. For him to do this with a place with such a dismal history in this sport, to even do what he did last year, he deserves all the credit. The problem was that he acted like such an asshole so many different times. And people can go to the default like lame kiff in a Tennessee thing where it's like, no, I'm just doing this to make sure the program gets attention and all that stuff. And you're like, dude, you coach at Ohio State game. You were scared. You were just going Let me get through this thing. Let me try to have some score that looks okay when the committee is talking about us. So I didn't like the idea of a team being able to get into the payoff by never beating anyone. And then the one game that mattered, looking like they weren't even close to being in the same class. But then the SEC pisses down their leg.

I wasn't arguing for Alabama even before the last loss of the season for them. Ole Miss loses the floor, the South Carolina has lost. They're like, Look, all these teams lost. So Indiana is getting into this thing, and I was more okay with it at the end, even though I didn't think they were good. And you're exactly right about the Notre Dame thing. And then that day when Signetti was on with game day, he went crazy again. And then at the beginning of the year, when he talks about his schedule, saying, Hey, we're going to do the SEC schedule thing. And you're like, Do you want to go through the Power Four opponent stuff? Do you want to bring up that record in the out-of-conference stuff? Of course, you don't want to do that. Why you don't play anybody? So I was still a little pre-pissed, or I would say, leftover-pissed from '24. Watch the Illinois game and you're like, Illinois is good. And this is something One thing I'd love to do with you guys at some point. Do we need to rank like 45 teams? Because I feel like there's always this group from like 20 to 40, where I reference it as like the meaty good.

And they may lose the wrong time right on being the cusp of being ranked, and then they're not ranked, but Then you're never given credit for beating that team. At times, I think beating USC last year, despite the record, that's still a good win, not just because LSU lost to them. There's other teams like that this year where I'm like, You know what? Beating that team is actually a good win. I don't care if they don't have a number next to them. So the Illinois part of it, and then just think that for three hours, they were that much better than Oregon, even though the score was 20-20 when they throw the pick six. And then Mendoza goes right down the field after throwing a pick six to Otson. All the momentum is It's 75 yards, TD, the two receivers are studs, the runningbacks are awesome, Frazier, the linebacker is great. There's three guys in the D-line that feel like they're making plays, and Mendoza raises their levels. So this is not... I felt like I was right the entire time with the Indiana last year, and it was so annoying for a fan base that had never really tasted it before to now be in the conversation.

It's like, Hey, this is about whether or not you're any good or you're going to have eight wins. This is about whether or not you're going to compete for a national championship, and I'm going to push against that, considering what this schedule was. But to me, it's like it's a different uniform now. Yeah. Is anybody even doing that anymore, though?

I don't think so. Not after the Oregon one, but they are legit, legit. They are going to... I can't wait to see them, most likely in the Big Ten Championship against Ohio State. But I think this team is every bit as good as pretty much every other team in the top 10, maybe outside of Ohio State, but Ohio State just might be on a different level than everyone. But that also could be... If Indiana goes to the Big Ten Championship game beats Ohio State, I wouldn't sit there and be like, How did that happen? That is the craziest upset of all time. No, Indiana has dudes, and they have a dude, a quarterback. And I I love Signetti. It really is insane. Indiana has the most losses in college football history. This is a university that never was good at all. And Signete literally came in, said he's going to change everything, and he changed everything in a year and a half. It's absolutely unfathomable that this happened.

I think a big part of it, too, is we've never had a coach that comes in super arrogant and just calls a shot from day one before they even practice. And he was like, Yeah, I win. Google me. Purdue sucks. Ohio State sucks. Michigan sucks. We've never had a guy that comes in with that level of arrogance that actually does back it up immediately in a big conference like this. And so it was shocking. So because he was so arrogant off the jump in that first year, you start to pick apart what he does. Yeah, it's impressive, but he's not a powerhouse yet. I still think what Signetti did last year was incredibly impressive for Indiana. They just weren't an elite team that was going to ever win a national championship, which is okay for a guy to come in his first year. If that's the biggest knock you have against him, then he's done a hell of a job, even in year one.

Yeah, whatever annoyances I've had or even referenced here, none of it matters. What matters is that team went into Otson and was the better football team against an Oregon team that they switched over to Moore. And you're like, okay, they didn't really play anybody to start the season. But when you were watching them, we were like, Okay, so Oregon has seven weapons again, and their quarterback looks like he's one of the best in the country. And this is a really good football team. And that's the whole point. I have Oregon in my rankings ahead of all those SEC teams still because I think that much of Indiana. So any complaint or any issue or any of the things that I reference to Signetti, I even realized in the pie chart of things that actually matter, it's such a sliver. It doesn't mean anything because that guy, to your point, I want to know more about what they do. Do you have any James Madison stuff? I know I have connections with the boosters after going to the after-party with PFT after he almost killed a guy from Wisconsin, who then later apologized in the concourse.

Yeah, good guy. Yeah, you guys worked it out before.

Now, to be fair, in that moment, I had some big balls in the moment because I knew that I had the two best security guards in the world there, Max and then Ryan. And you were in a tuxedo. I was in a tuxedo. No one wants to punch a guy in a tuxedo.

You look like a president.

Well, you had Max. I wasn't doing shit. They were just like with bicep, swollen Busting through his T-shirt. Nobody was fucking me that night. I got this guy on call. It was like Robin Bigg. You were my big. Yeah.

Rip.

I think Max was ready to jump in because I was like, I'm not doing this. I'm not doing anything. Because we also had low man position, which in the seats is not helpful. No, it's not. Not a level playing ground at all. So I was like, I don't really want to do this. I don't want this headline. But I was able to connect with a bunch of the GMU people afterwards. I love those guys, Rock and Ruffy jackets. I've been telling people about You People now since that night. That's a wild group, and I'm really impressed. But to bring it back to Signetti, do you have further I like.

Yeah. I mean, the only thing that I- Go ahead. I was going to say the only thing I've heard about his practice is that he would run at JMU was he was relatively hands-off during practice. He would spend a lot of time watching from either in the stands, sometimes in the booth, looking down on practice and taking in a holistic approach of looking at the team. Now, that might not be how he conducts every single practice, but I heard he did a lot of that and then spend a lot of time just by himself, breaking stuff down in practice. And then he would give the message to his coaches, Okay, here's how we're going to attack it. He wasn't so much checking in on everybody, micromanaging. He was a big picture guy.

Kadek, who played for Signetti last year, who works with us now, he said that he's got a little like Harba in him, where he's a little off, but in a great way, where it's like- Is that the one that dates Anna? No, that is not. He's a little off. We're going to have to create a tree for you, a chart.

If you have some index cards, so I can just get that caught up on that stuff, that'd be great.

We got you. But a little off, but in a great way. Harba is a little off, but it's because he just loves football so much that it just keeps everyone a little bit on edge, but in a really sharp way that I think Some of these special coaches, they're wired different, and it can really work, especially in this case.

People used to tell me all the time, he is a clone of nick Saban, which I would laugh about because obviously he's not nick Saban. But people would always tell me he has so many Saban-like qualities. It would blow your mind if you spent time around him. I never felt like I would ever say that publicly because you're comparing him to the greatest coach who ever lived. But I think you're starting to see some of that, some similarities come through with the guy when it comes to his football mind.

I love what he said that UCLA is a 3-0 team. That's a classic. He just gets up in front. He's like, We're playing a 3-0 team because they change their coach and they're 3-0. And that's how we're approaching this game.

The head coach said, No one knows. Yeah. It's just funny because Nuisle is in every single picture. It's like the interim head coach is like, Am I actually the head coach?

Yeah. Newizel is breaking him down after games. He's handing out game balls.

Again, to your point, I like the Signetti stuff and being on savings. Whatever it was, whatever this is in the way his team responds and to turn it around, there are teams all over the country with far better resources, boosters willing to do whatever you need. And for this guy to be like, if we're just average in resources, then I can win here. And you're just like, what are you talking about? And he's done it. I'm not. If they lose, I don't know. The fact that, Big K, you even said it, too. The fact that I'm even thinking of if they play Ohio State in the Big Ten Championship game, I have to think about my pick. And I might go, you know what? Why don't you just go the other way with this instead of, clearly, Ohio State will be favored. It's going to be impossible to pick against them. We're going to be factoring the history and the uniform and all that stuff. Maybe the smarter football minds can be like, Hey, there's a match up here on the outside, or there's something here with their interior alignment that advantage Indiana. Maybe explain it to me because it doesn't matter.

If they're going to beat them, this If they're bounced out of the play, they don't win the Big Ten Championship game. No one should be going, Oh, see, same old Indiana. What are you talking about?

Yeah, that's the difference. All right, give me a team that is maybe not in the top five that you're like, Watch out for them. I'll throw one out there. Georgia Tech just keeps winning. They're like the Bizzarro World Auburn, and Auburn just finds a way to lose. Auburn goes into every game like, Hey, watch this. You never thought we could lose this way. And then they lose. Georgia Tech does the opposite, where they just keep... And Brent Key has been awesome. And Haynes King, he's just a dog. He's not the most talented guy, but I love college football because you can get a guy like Haynes King or Diego Pavia, where it's like, this guy might not be some stud NFL player, but he just knows how to play college football.

Yeah. I've been a big Haynes King fan for a while because he's just so incredibly tough. Yeah. He's pretty old now, too. So you worry, like his knee is going to be hurting him the next day. And then there are times over the course of a season where sometimes watching can be worse for you. I'll always reference the Iowa-Wiscom game, where when Iowa had that season, and Dan and I would argue about it all the time, and I'm like, This team should not be playing for a national championship. They should not be in the conversation because I thought they were so gross, and yet one every single week. That Wisconsin game in particular, I watched that whole game. I'm like, What the fuck? I'm like, What is this? But that was just one game. I watched the Wake game because Robbie Ashford was out there, who I think the Robbie Ashford story is one of the most incredible timelines in present-day college football. Then everybody would bring him in and be like, This guy's a two-sport guy. He's nasty. He got hurt in that game. Then he came back. They weren't able to win it in double overtime.

I was like, All right, Georgia Tech is nice. They always seem to outperform expectations. Key's record against ranked teams, especially when they're underdogs, is incredible. But sometimes that wake game, there's a wake hangover for that one. But I mean, the rest of the way, it's Q, it's NC State, DC, Pitt, and then we'll see what happens against Georgia.

Pit's been playing better, by the way.

Yeah. I mean, it's like the Louisville call. I mean, if Louisville's only loss is three points to Virginia, who's really good, and Miller Moss is good. I think you can make an argument that Miller Moss was I don't know enough about the SC situation, but was the fall guy for that team.

Yeah. To your point about the Meedy Good earlier, the 25 to 40 ranked teams in America, how many of those would come from the American? Because that conference right there, if we're talking group of five, the top of the American is insanely good right now. Yeah. They got Navy, South Florida, Tulane, Memphis, and North Texas. And any one of those teams could make the play.

I love North Texas. They just score.

That's all they do. Yeah, I think all these teams are really good. East Carolina is good, too. Yeah. Put it on, Carolina, coastal Carolina, earlier this year. I remember that was listening to a gambling show Just driving around. This guy was like, Coastal sucks. No one understands. This team isn't any good. He's like, I'm hammering ECU. And I didn't know anything. I'm just in the car going, I don't think I've ever heard anyone more more confident about a pick because it was like getting through all the pics and all the headliner stuff. He's like, I got one for you. And then, of course, I think I was like, they shut him out. And then I was looking at it the next week, and then it was like, Are you going to be the moron that trails this the week after he made this pick? And I think Coastal covered the next week. And I was like, okay, that's a win by not getting involved in any of it. Look, the American thing has had stories all season long, whether it's Memphis getting Arkansas at the goal line, fumbling with that game, South Florida, where there was a part where I'm arguing about the SEC in some of the...

Because it was always funny, the SEC would lose a non-conference game. It's like, Oh, hey, Roussel. It just happens to me all the time. And it's like, Hey, are you going to bed? Because there's still Three more games on tonight. Let's see how these go. So when Florida lost to South Florida, considering how that game played out, too, and then a kick, it's like, You know what? South Florida is not a terrible loss, even if it's a non-powerful school. And then they get absolutely destroyed by Miami, which I think them beating Florida helped Miami lock into that game there. And then Tulane, who has the revenge game against Duke, gets that win. So that top group has a bunch of really good wins, where I would say in years past, I get frustrated about teams getting through a conference like that and then being allowed to play for a national championship because I just don't think that it's... Well, because it isn't. It's not an opinion. It's not the same exercise to have to play 12 games in a conference like that. But to your point, the top half of it is really strong.

Well, yeah. If you were to pick one conference, if you were to say, Okay, the Big Ten is going to win the national championship, the SEC is going to win, which one would you bet on?

Oh, the Big Ten. Yeah, I'm not saying it's impossible. Bama is growing into something. But Bama gets a lot of the carry-over of Bama. It's like, dude, it's been a couple of years now, all right? You've got the Millrow loss against Michigan in the past. Again, it's all not on Millrow. They come back last year, they lose three games. They're a mess. Ty Simpson, to his credit, in that Florida State ass-kicking, I thought he was fighting the whole game. So I did take a positive out of that. I'm like, this is just an awful three hours for Ty Simpson running around as Florida State looks like world beaters. So they're going to have this loss that looks terrible, considering what Florida State is going through right now. But teams are allowed to grow and get better or get worse, which I think is overlooked at times. So I feel like Alabama is rounding in his shape here more. And even with the loss, resume-wise, it looks worse than obviously A&M's clean sheet. But I probably like Tennessee more than I like Georgia, to be honest with you. Really?

Their defense, though, man.

Yeah, but that Georgia defense isn't.

Yeah, no, I agree. It's just all the SEC teams. The SEC is the new Big 12.

Tennessee's defense wasn't necessarily the problem on Saturday. It was the pick six at the end of the first half against Alabama. That's the worst thing that can happen to a football team. That's it. That's what it is. Like one-yard line, two-yard line. You're about to make it what? Like a two-point game, and then pick six as there's zero seconds left on the clock in that first half. There's no way that Tennessee was coming back from that.

Yeah. I just think they're... I don't know. I don't trust... Like, Alabama hasn't been able to run the ball this year, and they were able to find something against Tennessee.

But I'm telling you, that Hill kid, I don't know how many carries he can get, but I thought he was a big story. And McAuroy is always all over it, too, because of the Alabama part of it. But he was moving bodies around. And it drives me crazy sometimes when these college teams will have two projected first-round tack, or tackles can be a little different. But say one side of the line has a couple of NFL guys. You're like, How can you not run the football to that side of the field? What's going on here? It's a bit like, not to bring them up again, but LSU having four of their offensive linemen from 24 drafted. I was like, I thought that group as a unit It wasn't even that good last year. And then four guys got drafted. So maybe I'm wrong about it. I'm trying to think of who else here because sometimes I get a little too married to the number. I was really impressed with BIO against Utah.

Yeah, agreed.

I thought it was a little schedule-y with them. They finally played somebody. Although the more I watched Dan Pierre with Utah, I think it limits them. I think it was a fun story in the beginning, but that was also UCLA before they hired New Hause as the head coach. But look, that Holy War, those teams hit the shit out of each other. But Bachmier, he's pretty good.

Yeah. It's hard because his older brother, I lost so much money gambling as he traveled around the country.

The number that he was.

And he just pop up on a new team. And I would like, week one, I just bet a team and be like, what the fuck? I bet on Hank Bachmier again? But yeah, no, I was impressed with them. I still like Oklahoma's... The problem with Oklahoma is their schedule is just so No ridiculous. But their defense is good. I'm a big material guy. I do think he came back too fast against Texas. But if they can somehow... They just play so many hard teams. They finish their schedule, Ole Miss, at Tennessee, at Alabama, Missouri, LSU. That's a murderer's row. But if they somehow finish it three and two, I don't know. And the three loss conversation comes in. Their resume would be up there with anyone else.

Yeah. I know Ohio State's Penn State, Purdue, UCLA, Rutgers, and then Michigan. So I can see how people look at the Big Ten and go.

Oh, stop. We made such good headway. All right, I got one last question. Again, by the way, if you're listening, please subscribe. Hold on.

Should we at least mention Notre Dame with this? Because I know you already brought them up. You're absolutely really cars good. And look, however you want to just talk about football players, Jeremy Bernard is one of my favorite football players in all the college football. He's a receiver for Alabama. Every time he gets something out to the The sideline, it's like a five-yard gain. And then the guy has the angle on him, and he goes to tackle him. And it's like, guess who's still standing up on the sideline? It's Jeremy Bernard. The guy's nuts. Love for Notre Dame. I don't think there's 10 better football players in college than him. Again, I'm not talking about draft picks or the scarcity or the importance of the position or whatever. But every time that kid gets going, I'm like, I don't think there's that many players that are playing on Saturdays that are better than he is.

He should be Heisman. What he did was special. He should be Heisman.

How about the Heisman stuff right now? Who the hell is going to win?

No one knows. You know what I'm hoping for? Because Jeremiah Love was my Heisman before the season. I really want Jeremiah Love to get almost identical to Ashton Genti's numbers and then just be like, We fucked up last year, guys. We got to make it right. We got to vote Jeremiah I love this year. He's not going to get to his numbers, but he does have a soft schedule at the end. And also, Notre Dame, by the way, I said it after they started '02. I was like, They're actually in the exact same spot they were last year because the Northern Illinois loss was one loss. This is two losses to playoff teams. They're going to run the table. They're going to figure it out. They're going to be in the playoff. And I think more than that, they're a legit, very, very good team now where it's not just, oh, they played a soft schedule. They figured some stuff out, and they lost with a freshman quarterback on the road week one in Miami, and then lost with a fucked up kick against Texas A&M who's undefeated. Notre Dame Notre Dame is good. Notre Dame is good.

Yeah. The NC State game was a weird slow start. And then once they've given up a ton of points to Purdue, because I was in the same boat as everybody else. But again, I think we do it far too often. It's like, okay, they have these two good losses. We all agreed the car was good. We felt good about car after losses, which is an okay thing to do. The same way I felt great about Howard and the loss against Oregon last year because I didn't really know what to make of him coming over from K-State. And then even losing, I go, You know what, though? They have something in Howard here. So they're going to be okay. Yeah. I think the same thing, even though Howard had a longer resume of games that we'd seen him play in, CJ being new, that Miami game was like, Hey, this looked like everything was working against him, and now he's got this team back into this whole thing. But then after we just go, Hey, they're going to be favorite against the next 10 opponents. It's like, Okay, but we're acting like it's way too easy to be like, Okay, they'll just have to go 10 and 0 now.

Having said that, even with how come the defense is a little weird? They look like they could have scored 100 points against Arkansas. And yeah, the NC State game was a weird start to the whole thing, but there's just a lot that I really like, and it starts with Lovett running back, and it's a two-headed monster there. So the offense is fine. I don't know if the defense will be as good as... I mean, what are we talking about elite defenses right now? Two teams, Ohio State, Indiana.

Yeah.

I mean, A&M has some really good stats, but I I don't know. And then coming off the Arkansas game, it makes it... It's a tough case to make that A&M's defense is the level of those other two Big Ten teams.

I agree. Okay, so Ryan, everyone subscribe. New podcast coming out November third. I have one last question, rowback question, robackquestion, robackquestion, rhoback. Com, promo code take. 20% off your first purchase, Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, robackk. Com, promo code take. Who's going to win the NBA title?

I'm picking the Denver Nuggets.

Okay.

Nice. Interesting.

There's no reason to pick against OKC. They're going to be even better. Chet will be better. He'll probably play a bit more games. I mean, it's like 50 games last year. Jalen Williams, even though he's got this issue that he's dealing with and he's going to be in the opener tonight, he likely would be better. Wallace will be better. They've got Topich. They're just going to be better. So it doesn't make any sense. Anybody that wants to pick them, I'm like, Hey, that's great. I picked him last year. I wanted to do something a little different this year, so I'm picking the Denver Nuggets.

Okay. And in the East, how big of a disappointment would it be if the 76ers did not make the NBA Finals this year? Good question.

Wait, how big of a... If they're like a 48, 50 win team and Embiid's healthy and they're ready to go. Look, he's never got out of the second round. An Easter conference finals appearance for that team would be a huge win. If they didn't get through the East, I He never be like, Oh, hey, that's... No, I wouldn't be like, Hey, that's a real huge disappointment they weren't able to get through. I would.

I mean, he's the MVP. He won the MVP. It's down year for the East. You got a lot of superstars injured that would be on teams that would be in their way, teams that have bounced them out of the playoffs in the past. This, to me, is as open as it's ever going to be for the Sixers.

Cleveland's really good. I know that they don't have the payoff success, but that team won 64 games last year. Deandre Hunter coming over to the He'd only played 27 with them. It's the most expensive team in the league, so it's got to work out this year. I know Mitchell has probably more payoff disappointments, but if you look at his individual stuff and what he's been able to do, this is all time. When he cranks it up in a play-off game, he can hang with almost like anyone, historically, from a scoring standpoint. I am so down on the Sixers that I can't sit here and say, If they don't get to the NBA Finals, this is a massively... Just riding the ship and then being competitive and being... That would mean that Cleveland, New York, or Orlando, two of those three teams are out, and Philly's playing one of those. Just that would be, I think, a massive, successful season for who the Sixers have been here the last couple of years.

I just believe in the Sixers a little bit more than you, I guess. I'm going to pick them. I think Sixers in the East is easily- This is a bit.

No, this isn't a bit. Max?

You got to know what they're doing. This is crazy that it's gone this long, and then you've taken this as a serious question.

Welcome to Barstool, Ryan. You just got pranked.

Oh, man.

They're just making fun of me.

We're setting Max up. We're setting him up for our ultimate disappointment.

Max, you don't think this team is going to be any good, do you? No.

That's why that's the whole... If they got to the Eastern Conference finals, that would be great. That would be awesome.

Oh, man.

Because PFT is a big NFL guy. Huge. So I was like, maybe he's just not He's not honed up.

No, I'm a Josh Harris guy, and Josh Harris, he owns a Sixer. So that's what he does. He gets to the Eastern Conference finals.

I like Josh Harris. And if you hire Bob Myers, who's one of the single most impressive human beings I've ever encountered, then that's a high ranking. What's your most impressive human being you've ever met?

Stanford Steve.

He's pretty impressive. Drinking next to Stanford Steve, that's...

Yeah. I mean, he's got a hollow leg.

He might be my most impressive dude.

Yeah, he's number one dude.

Yeah, but Bob Myers, that's an impressive man.

I've seen Steve drunk once, and I've drink a lot with him. Yeah. There was only one time where I'm like, Wait, are you If it's your equilibrium off right now, you're always so steady. I mean, that's not even it. He'll have some random play for you and be like, What are you against the spread this year? I'll be like, 11 and 2 on Saturdays. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Stanford Steve is a pretty good pick. Dicaprio, Bob Myers, or Stanford Steve. You can't go wrong with any of those three.

No, that's a good trio.

Who knows? Leo might be a distant third and hanging out, although the water gun fights look fun.

Also, you haven't spent enough time with White Sox Dave yet, which we'll fix, so he could be easily in your top three soon.

Yeah. No, that's definitely... There's some video-only stuff that we talked to Portnoy about doing, and I was like, Whatever I do, White Sox Dave, White Sox Dave, White Sox Dave, just want to be in it. Maybe a long-form thing or even a travel show. I know.

Travel show, Donny goes to Turkey.

Yeah, but White Sox Dave was like, We can go to Michigan.

Yeah. What about Nicki Smokes? You can go to a dive bar that's not a dive bar. The possibilities are endless here at Barstool.

Maybe get Ben Mince to show you around Baton Rouge.

Yeah. Mincey, you on... Mincey is looking for someone to videotape him going to Mexico for Widesprade Panic New Year's. It's four nights. I think you're the guy for the job.

That's also in my contract.

No Ben Mince?

It's just like, I don't want to ruin what it is for me. I don't want it to be real. I like being a voyage.

Yeah. All right. Everyone, subscribe. Ryan, his first new pod is coming out on November third with Sruti and Kyle. And please subscribe everywhere you get pods.

Number one. Number one. I like that. It's pretty good.

I've always I wanted to do that tweet, and I will say goodbye here, but we have a lot of friends that they launch the new feed, and then the new feed is up. And then if you have any subscriber growth, which is usually pretty easy to accomplish when it starts at zero to whatever the new thing is, the Apple show rankings, they freak out. They freak out. And so there's been a few people that have suggested that it's real. So I was like, when it happens to me, because I knew it was going to happen, I was like, I'm going to post, oh, my God, I'm number one, with part of my take, it's so clearly number one in sports. They're so number one that I'm offended when other people do it because of you guys. I'm offended for you, not even for me. So I was like, when I go to number one. And then I went to in the middle of the hostage release, I was like, Ahead of the New York Times. I don't think that's accurate. I don't know. All categories. Yeah, all categories. I was right up there with the heavy hitters.

And it also just reminds me of some of the people that don't even understand that they're not number one. So it's like the people that know they're not number one and then mislead the public. And then the next tier is the person that has no idea that they actually aren't number one. And they're like, Holy shit, I'm number one in comedy? You're like, You're not. I always wanted to post that when I knew it was going to happen to me to be like, Hey, I'm number one, and then be like, I'm actually not number one, and this is why it shows that I'm number one. But it's going to do all right.

I think the rumors that you were romantically linked with Sabrina Carpenter, those helped. That's at It helps New Heights. What if you guys were an item, you'd probably be number one.

Yeah, look, I like the Kelsies, but that relationship probably cost me so much money. You guys think I'm fucking kidding.

We should sue Taylor Swift.

Same.

Because you were just like, Oh, this is a funny little thing. And then you're like, What?

Oh, shit. And they're playing in the Super Bowl against each other? Yeah.

Jesus Christ. I'm a free agent while this is happening, and now they're getting I'm engaged. And now she got her masters back. I'm like, Fuck, slow down the content train. My deal's up here. I was like, I don't know what to do here. My agent is like, Is there anything you can do? I was like, I'm probably not date somebody like that. He's just like, Well, not with that fucking attitude. Get out of there.

Come on, Ryan. You're a catch.

You're just going through the Mad Men roster of who was in this that I could DM. I'm still not seeing anybody. You know what I really loved is in season four when you... All right.

All right, Ryan, you're the best. Everyone, subscribe. And there's talks. I was texting with Sarruti. There's talks of maybe figuring out a time when we can get your three boys in here to maybe do a Thursday night football stream or something. So we'll figure that out.

Yeah. Can't wait. We will do that. We'll get to Chicago. I know Kyle is really excited about it, and he's the only person I've ever met that desperately, desperately wanted to move back to Poughkeepsie, New York. And this allowed him to get to move home. And the guy loves his family, and he wanted to be near his family. So he got to move home. And so part of it, I was like, well, you can move to Chicago if you want. And he was like, well, does that mean Poughkeepsie's off the table? I'm like, dude, he's totally on the table because he didn't want to live in LA. So he gets to go home, but he'll be in Chicago. So thanks, guys. Thanks for everything. I really appreciate it.

All right. Thanks, Ryan.

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Okay, let's wrap up the show. We got FAQs, Henry.

First I've known long time. Oh, what the...

Oh, no. What happened?

What is the story behind trying to spoil the Sopranos for Hank? Yeah, actually. Just do tell. Well, Hank- They're just bad people.

I don't remember it.

No, I'll tell the story.

Hank was 10 years late.

No, no.

That I started watching the Sopranos, and I was like, I'm watching the Sopranos, guys. Okay, so now you're gatekeeping when a person can watch or not watch a show. No. That's fucked up. That's what you're doing in 20 years.

You can't expect there to be no spoilers.

It's 10 years late.

Like, spoilers happen naturally in life.

Who cares? I told you guys privately I was watching a show, and then you guys decided to not tell me privately, spoilers, on the podcast that I was producing that we had to record, so I literally could not avoid it. Okay. You I said it into the mic that I would then have to listen to in real-time and then listen to again.

Well, to be fair, Hank, I thought that you knew that Adriana was a rat, and that Christopher turned her into the FBI, and he said that he was just going to go out for a while and they were going to move away. Then she got picked up in a car and taken to the woods in shock. We thought that you knew that already.

I'd like to say something.

But no, you knew I didn't know that because I told you where I was in the watching. You knew that I was not at that point yet.

I thought you knew that Sylvia was going to pick her up and be like, We're going to the hospital and then take her to the Can I say something?

Please, Hank.

I guess, yeah, fine.

The way you just explained it, I want to say that's really fucked up of us and we're assholes. Hearing it back, that was fucked up.

We are. It was a segment on the show. It's called Spoilers. We're assholes.

No, that's not true. That's not true at all. That was a segment. You just invented that. You guys would do it. You guys would just weave them into the show for weeks. It wasn't a one-time thing.

No, We're bad people. We took something like when Bobby Bacala was with his train set and he got whacked. We took something you loved, and then we killed you right in front of it.

I never finished it, so I didn't love it. I was like, I'm liking this show, and then you spoiled it for me.

I don't know. Our bad. I think we're just talking about pop culture on the show.

It's not like we ran over your head like Phil Lietardo's head.

It popped. I don't know what that means.

His head popped. It was crazy in a gas station.

What do you want us to do? Suck your dick?

I don't know what that means.

Like Veto in the whole season that he was gay? Sure. Okay.

He's still mad about this. He's still very upset about this.

We do sound like there's no telling of the story that doesn't make PFT and I look like assholes. There's not.

I like how you tried to apologize there, and Hank was like, I don't know why you're apologizing. Then PFT said one more thing, and then he just ignored what you said about apologizing. He continued to be mad at PFT.

Listen, Hank, if you're going to get it spoiled by somebody, you'd want it to be somebody that you knew and trusted. Like when Tony, when Steve Bushimi and waited for him with a shotgun outside his house.

His cousin, yeah.

Steve Bushimi was in Sopranos?

Yeah, fresh out of jail.

You should watch it. He tried to become a massage therapist afterwards. He tried to go straight, but it wasn't working out for him. He had a rage problem. Fell back on that life. Then Tony found out he was going off the handle and doing jobs for other crews. Then Tony was like, If someone's going to kill him, it should be me. That's how we felt about it. We didn't want some random person online to spoil it for you. So we did it ourselves.

Do you think there's anyone right now who's listening to or watching Sopranos for the first time?

Yes.

Spoiler alert. No, Every time I sprinkle one in, I get one person to be like, What the fuck? This was a lot. Yeah, this was a lot.

This was a lot. This was a lot. You could just ruin it for...

Yeah. We might have just fucked that like, Carmella fucked AJ's teacher.

What's up, PMT, guys? I appreciate all that you guys do. If you weren't doing the pod or anything with Barstool, period, what career do you think you guys would have?

Hating my life?

I think I would have gone back to the used dog game. I think that would have been a lot of fun. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I tried not to think about that because at this point, we're so far down this hole that it's like we don't really have any skills that would transfer over to a real job.

I am in In terms of the real world, I am so fucking stupid. I don't know what I would do.

Yeah, you're telling me.

Sitting in a meeting, typing things, these are things I don't have any ability to do you do anymore?

Logging on to Teams.

I almost wanted to be an accountant.

No offense to accountants.

Listen, no offense to Max.

I'm so far down the line of like... I'm just a stupid, stupid I'm maybe the least proficient person in Excel in the world. Have you gotten dumber? Yeah.

I can never work a real job.

At this point, it's too late. Burn the boats.

This is our life.

I remember freshman year, I I don't think I would have ended up working a real job when I started working here, but now I definitely would not be able to.

I will say there are sometimes that I... I don't want to shit on people who are sitting in an office right now because there's parts of it that we never get to turn it off. Going to games, having weekends where you don't have to be glued to everything.

That's what I like about the Monday Night Football games. I know. The standalone. You get to just chill on the couch.

Shout out all the hardworking people out there. Thank you for listening. We didn't mean to... We were more sitting on Max being an accountant. That would be the worst. You'd go to jail if you hired him to be an accountant.

I just got one good grade in an accounting class freshman year, and I was like, Maybe I could be an accountant. Make decent money.

Do you know how to use a spreadsheet?

At the time, I was okay.

Now, no. We're just so far gone. I'm so far gone.

I'm out of that.

Even having a formal meeting with anyone is just uncomfortable.

I've aged out of the workforce. Can you imagine logging into Microsoft Teams or whatever every morning?

I don't know how to use anything.

Yeah, Slack.

I use three things on my computer.

I use Slack. We use Slack.

Yeah, you guys do. They do Slack. They Slack. They talk shit about us on Slack.

That's not true.

Oh, memes? A little bit?

No, no, no.

What would you do with memes? You were an accountant.

Accounts receivable.

Counts receivable. What is that?

That sounds like an accountant.

See, I don't even know what that is? It's a part of accounting. It's a money that comes in. When we started Stella Blue, I remember I sat in a meeting and they were talking about PnL, and I had to pull someone aside after. I was like, Hey, they keep saying that shit. What does that mean? Profits and losses.

So accounts deliverable is what? That's paying people? Memes?

You said accounts deliverable?

Yeah. Receivable? No, deliverable.

Were you receiveable? There's accounts payable and there's accounts receivable. Which one Who are you? Accounts receivable. That's money coming in. Accounts payable is money going out. You were getting money?

You were getting money? Assets in there somewhere.

We're breaking people's brains.

Accounts receivable is for the diva accountants.

Wait, you were getting money You were just counting the money that was coming in? Yeah, money coming in. You were just counting it? Yeah, just counted it all.

Do bosses like the people in that department more than they like the people in the accounts payable? Because these are my I get money guys.

They like everybody the same. These are jobs I don't even... I've gotten so functionally stupid that when you ask what jobs would you be, I'm like, a firefighter or astronaut?

Major League Base.

I don't know what accounts receivable is. I'm sure we have it here. Okay, good question.

Who smells the best?

I would guess maybe Zack. Zack, you're a cologne guy?

I'm not a huge cologne guy. No, I'm just a soap guy, deodorant guy. Okay.

I smell pretty good. I have some cologne I wear. I got on Gruden's cologne.

Oh, the Creed? Yeah.

It's good scent. It's good shit.

I've started to take a little cologne in the mornings. I wouldn't say that we're a particularly great smelling crew.

I don't think we're bad. I think we're neutral. We're a neutral smelling podcast.

I would argue that's the best place to be. Sometimes when guys smell too good, it's like, What are you trying to do?

No, I do It shouldn't smell good. I do one spritz of cologne when I get out of the shower with no shirt on. It's that way because I do think that if you spray it on your shirt, it becomes too much. I just like to have a little bit of it on my body and then a faint hint of it.

Do you ever put it on your wrist?

No, because I feel like that's too much. Yeah, it's too much. You don't want to be a too much cologne guy.

You know who the best smelling person I've ever met in real life is? Never in a million years.

I do.

I probably told you. Jerry is number one. No. Out of all the people that we've met doing this show, there's one person that smells far and away better than any other celebrity I've ever met. I guarantee you zero % of the people that are listening to this will guess it correctly.

Okay, give it to me.

It's Carrot Top. Oh. Carrot Top smells incredible. Wow.

I would not have guessed. No.

It was shocking to the point where I was asking other people like, Hey, you smell on this guy? They're like, Yeah, he smells amazing. He was doing a live celebrity dozen with us. I think that was in Vegas, right? I asked him, I was like, Carrot Top, what is that smell that you have? He would not tell me. He said he has his own custom cologne that's mixed just for him that he wears. Listen, it delivers. Whatever he pays for it, it works. You guys know what they make cologne out of? What are you going to Like dog asshole? Pretty much. Oh, shit. Whale shit. They make cologne out of whale shit.

Why are you looking at assets, liabilities, and owner's equity?

Remember I said assets? I was like, I'm pretty sure there's some equation with assets, and I was right. But accounts receivable part of assets.

We're stupid.

Yeah.

Idiot jazz. That's it? That's it. Okay. Good show, guys.

Good show.

Numbers. Three. Oh, I think that was Hank. What do we got?

Pugs making the decision.

That'd be track number seven. That'd be me. Oh, damn.

You fucked him up. You fucked him up, Mims. Pug off of a win.

You should have gone 99.

Ralph Cifereto when he thought that he killed his horse. 33. We'll never know. I'll go 25.

We're 22.

I'll wait till Jack takes it.

Seven.

44.

99, Pug. Eighty-six.

What do you have, 50? 37. Anybody else take 37?

I took 33.

Let's see. 53. 53? Anyone? Anyone? 53? Anyone? One more real quick, the same numbers?

Yes, real quick.

Same numbers. Same numbers. Who's going to fucking win?

No, you're going to get it. You're going to get it, dude. We do multiple numbers.

This is good for you.

This is good for you.

Hank wasn't getting these many pulls.

That's facts. He literally did one more. Fifty-five.

Fifty-five.

No one.

Love you guys.