Transcript of NFL Week 7, Fastest 2 Minutes, Broncos Historic Comeback, Colts Domination, Commanders Down Bad + Shohei's Greatest Single Game Performance Ever And Who's Back Of The Week

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Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, October 20, week seven. What are you gonna be for Halloween?

Teege I'm going to go as a person with a gun in his mouth.

Because no football was Football is stupid.

And nobody should watch it.

We get dark early. All right, we start in London where the Jaguars took on the Rams as Trevor Lawrence tried his best to spread the idea of football overseas, not the actual play on the pitch. Matthew Staff Rob Ford who didn't eat the pussy? He has more than enough at home. Teej gave the cats a licking easily finding the cracks in the secondary. Devontae John Adams gained American independence from the Jaguars defense, scoring three times and Sean McClubshay Shay hit it from all positions as the Rams routed the Jaguars. Rams 35, Jaguars 7 we go over.

To sunny Cleveland, Ohio, where the Polynesian quarterbacks Tagoviola and Gabriel were a couple island boys leaving Miami fans asking to Hawaii throw all those interceptions. Quinshawn Connery Judkins was pounding the rock, looking at McDaniel saying, losers complain about trying their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen. The Dolphins tried to fight back, but Mike McDaniel pulled his biking pants up high and the cycle continues for Miami as D. Eskridge wasn't very Armstrong losing one of his balls. The Cleveland defense feasted as Tyson Campbell was chicken soup for the brown soul, getting a pick six as Andrew Berry proclaimed, I would draft 500 miles garretts and I would draft 500 more just to be the man who got McDaniels fired to make people forget Flacco, I'm going as Budweiser for Halloween. Cleveland steamer the Dolphins 316 to Kansas.

City where Zach was on the scene in Kansas City. Patrick Starr Mahomes firmly grasps it and throws it to Rashee Wright's crispy treat, who snap, crackles and pops his way right into the end zone to kick things off. Patrick Trick or treat. Mahomes jump scares the Raiders defense with a spooky shot short right to Hollywood Walk of Fame Brown as he stares straight into the end zone. Later, Patrick Mahohohomes Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night. Shoots a pass gift wrapped in Rashi rice paper down Oakland's chimney for another six points. Neil Patrick Harris Mahomes told quite the story today, but it wasn't about anyone meeting your mother. It was all about kicking raider ass. Chiefs 31, Oakland 0 thanks Zach up to Minnesota for Max.

We head over to Minnesota where Carson Wednesday battams had Vikings fans saying he's.

Creepy and he's kooky, mysterious and loopy.

He's all together. Poopy Wednesday bat em should be QB3 do do do do do Vic Fangio was screaming you're beautiful to Jalen James.

Blunt when he secured the early pick.

Six to extend the Eagles lead. On the other side of the ball, the Eagles had a very obvious game plan. Devonta Mack Smith no matter what as he exploded for a career day with 183 yards and a TUD. Plus the while AJ son Aldean was on the verge of burning the team down, he finally broke out for two touchdowns and over 100 yards, including a late dagger to win the game.

Eagles 28, Broncos 22 thanks Max in Chicago, where there were concerns Ben Mintz Johnson was going to be lazy this week in preparation for New Orleans, concerned too much about the wide spread of four and a half points. But Jake Moody saved the day and looked past any of his ole misses going 4 for 4. Spencer Prattler stumbled back down the hills he's been trying to climb as a pro, throwing three interceptions, hitting Nishan right stuff baby. Kevin stomped a Bayard and Kenny Kenny Tremaine Edmonds Sorry that last one sucked dick Some are saying the Bears may be back as they go marching on the saints bears 26, saints 14 and then we go down to Nashville where Hank was there in Nash Vegas the Titans started off hot when team raid.

DK Mutombo said no no no no.

To Marcus Jones as he zoomed past him into the end zone to give.

The Titans an early lead in the second quarter. Drake Mae VP connected with Austin did.

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Hooper for seven and then K Sean White Booty hit a steady double McQuist 39 yarder to give the pass the.

Lead headed into the locker room in the second half. Ramandre Agassiz Stevenson after rushing into the.

End zone for six and then Cam Mickey Ward looked like he got hit in his head body head body after.

Fumbling the ball to give the defensive TD to the Pats Patrick omarching31:13 sticking.

In the AFC east memes and the.

Panthers jets in New Jersey the Panthers defense was waking up hard cause Miso JC Hornay who who was who was the lead member of the 2 pick crew and holding the jets offense to no touchdowns on the day Xavier Musketeers Leggett put on a strong performance in big East Rutherford with a touchdown set up by Chuba Dubadoo on a screen. It truly was a pick em on the field as Rico Daddle got put back on the meds by the jets defense that resulted in the numbers being down. As for the jets offense Breece hall and Oates said you're making my dreams come true by taking Justin to a fields upstate and putting him out of his fucking misery and replaced him with Tyrod Taylor Swift who just released a new song wood which isn't about Travis Kelce's enormous cock. It's actually about the jets owner who fucks an entire fan base year after year. Jets lose Panthers 13, Jets 6 great job memes.

We go down to Big D where George Pickens pot pieces was burning Marcus Latticemore over the top from the start making Marshawn eat his ass crushed First I did Marshawn and Marcus there. The Jaden Danielson was in the face of the Commanders with a murderer's row of wide receivers. Robbie chosen Jalen Lane and Chris Moore, which is ironic because you got speedster Kevonte Turpin behind a wheel and you think, wow, instead of driving on the median, that guy should have chosen Moore Lane. The Cowboys kept their foot on the gas, finding ACDC Lamb, who's back to catching more TDs and the Dunder cheap more TDs and the Dundee Bodak yellow. Prescott was making a Commie's defense look like Cardi B trying to run Cardio. Meanwhile, Terry McLaurin is going to have to sit on that wet ass peloton all week if he wants to get back on the practice field. The Commanders are back to being the worst team in the NFC and nothing burgundy and gold can ever stay. Washington fans were so happy last year because finally one good thing happened to them and now they're back to being bad at football and the Chiefs are going to the super bowl again.

Max is laughing because the Eagles are still good. The Nats are in year one again of a year seven rebuild Georgetown basketball sucks. OVI's retiring Josh Harris was in the Epstein files, even though it was just because he didn't like Epstein and basically fired the CEO of the Carlyle Group for being close with Epstein. But people won't do enough research. Oh well, at least we still have the Washington Wizards, Dallas a lot Commanders a little standing on the corner. Jameis Winston and Hoboken.

Such a fine sight to see.

It's a Giants tight, my Lord, going in for more. No way The Browns can score 33. Come on Bo Nix, won't you please throw picks? There's no chance in hell that we choke this.

The Giants did in fact choke it. Broncos 33, giants 32. And that is your fastest two minutes. Great. Fastest two minutes from everyone in the room. And it's brought to you by Chevy. Football season is here. And whether you're grinding through the week or gearing up for kickoff, there's one ride that's always game ready. Chevy Silverado. The Chevy Silverado is a longtime partner, pardon my take in our favorite truck. And it's all about grit. From job site to tailgate, Silverado lets you show up strong and tackle any task. Built for hustle, ready for the game. Silverado is America's most dependable full size truck. For J.D. power 2025 award information, visit jdpower.comawards Head to chevy.com to learn more and build your own Chevy Silverado today. Okay, Week seven in the books. We will update Sunday football at the end. Falcons and Niner are in a clash right now. It started, and Hank's favorite favorite country, London.

And his favorite country had another.

Had another London game. Rams 35, Jaguars 7. God damn it. Am I so sick of these games. This was. This was basically over almost instantly because it was the rams and Sean McVay being an incredible head coach, being like, hey, we don't have Puka Nukua, and we got to figure out a way to win this game. And let's go with three tight ends on every single play and just throw it to all of our tight ends. They went three tight ends in 40% of their snaps. Just for reference, the Rams, in the last three years, they ran three tight ends, 13 personnel, six total times in the last three years. They did it 24 times today, and they just mashed the tight ends in in their face. And then they get to the red zone, and then Devonte Adams will score a touchdown.

I think it was half them doing this because they had the Puka thing, and then half doing this because McVeigh knows that Cohen knows everything that he knows from the Rams offense. So he was preparing for the Rams offense that he used to be part of, and then he just rolled something completely new out there. I saw somebody point out this is exactly what Belichick did to McVeigh in that Super Bowl.

Yeah.

Where they just. Where. Where they suffocated the Rams and they couldn't get anything going. That's exactly what McVeigh then in turn did today to Liam Cohen and the Jaguars.

Do you know, by the way, Sean McVeigh, looking at the stats, you know, he's five and seven against his assistants, but he's five and two against all assistance. Not named Matt LaFlore. Oh, he's zero and five against Matt LaFlore.

I did not realize five and two.

Against assistants not named Matt LaFlore.

Yeah, it's pretty crazy. I also think that McVeigh might have just hacked the entire globe. I think time zones might not exist anymore. Yeah, because he just. He flew in, like, the Rams, parachuted into England morning, and then they just, like, slept there one night, and then they left. There's also a chance that McVeigh. Well, we know that he's an awl, that he listens to part of my take every time we say it's time to set the clocks Forward an hour. McVeigh might actually do that.

So he's just off anyway.

So he's just been on London time for like the last three weeks. Yeah, he's just been five hours ahead.

By the way. I was wrong again. It is next weekend. So Stafford five touchdowns. It like it. I feel like he could have even had a better day. But they kind of just went into we have won this game. When they were up 21 nothing at half and the entire game after the rams went up 21 nothing was the Jaguars. Every time you looked up at the TV the Jaguars were failing a fourth down or like getting, driving the ball and getting zero points. They went six straight drives where they got past the 50 yard line and got zero points out of those six straight drives they went to the 45, the Rams 45 punt to the Rams 32 miss field goal to the Rams 11 turnover on downs. The Rams 30 turnover on downs to the Rams 27 turnover on downs to the Rams 48 punt. Six straight drives where they went past half field and got zero points. It was abysmal to watch.

Yeah. After they missed that field goal I think Liam Cohen just made the choice like we're just going to go for it every time and then it just never worked for them.

Yeah.

And it kept failing for different reasons each time. That's why it's so hard to place like any, any one person with the blame for the Jaguars because Trevor Lawrence, he, he does just stupid stuff sometimes.

I so I threw this out to you earlier today. I think he's the most sackable quarterback we have and I say that so he got sacked seven times. I think he got sacked. I think he's been sacked 14 times the last two games. I say that not like it's not like late Eli Manning where he would do self sacks. It's Trevor Lawrence can run a little bit. Trevor Lawrence is athletic. Trevor Lawrence I think is over a hundred. On spin moves that don't work, he like he'll spin or try to sidestep and a guy will get one arm on him and he'll be sacked.

I think I know what the reason is because he does that spin move.

A lot and it never works.

But the quarterbacks that are able to do the spin move and it works. The, the pass rusher doesn't know that he's about to spin right with Trevor Lawrence he like looks too much at the blitzer that's coming in where he's pretending to look out of like the side of his ey guy but he turns his head a little bit and the guy's like, oh, this guy knows that I'm coming right now. A really good quarterback will just like kind of stare straight ahead and the blitzer won't know that he's about to spin. Trevor doesn't do any of that.

No, he doesn't.

He never does that. But yeah, I mean, he forgets where he is on the field more than any other quarterback in the NFL. Yeah, he misses some throws. He makes a lot of throws. But it feels like the Jaguars are never in sync with each other. No, they're never in sync. Like when Trevor makes a good pass, that's when Brian Thomas just like completely forgets how to catch a football. They've been over in London so much they forget that they're allowed to use their hands. And he'll just like drop it off his fingertips or hear the footsteps or whatever. Just somebody new screws up each time. And it's very hard to put your finger on exactly what the problem is in Jackson.

The. The. Liam Cohen summed it up perfectly, exactly what you just said after the game. He said everything, everything we said we didn't want to do did occur. Yeah, that's right.

Maybe stop saying maybe. Stop living in your fears.

Yeah, don't say what you don't want to do because then you'll start thinking about it and be like, oh, I'm gonna do this.

He did the actual. Like, be a. Be a real shame if. If cardi missed a 34 yard field goal today.

Right. It would be a real shame if Brian Thomas Jr. Missed another catch over the middle of the field. By the way, the stats on that catchable targets over the middle of the field to Brian Thomas Jr. This year have a negative 17.1 completion percentage over expected this season. I don't really understand how this stat works, but I know that when you have negative 17.1 completion percentage over expected, that's bad.

Yeah. My takeaway from this game is just Jaguars just get Travis onto the ball more.

Did they unlock him?

They unlocked Travis Hunter at the end of the game.

He scored his first touchdown because he's locked in.

He's baptized before this game. Yep. When there was just one footprint in the sand. That's when I was burning Jesus on a double move now. And it worked out.

Now did it happen? Maybe because it was garbage time.

I still think he was the. He was the biggest bright spot of the day.

Absolutely.

And he played pretty good on defense, too.

They also. We also have a classic who actually won the game debate that we can do. And I'm referring to Monday Night Football Jaguars versus the Chiefs. So Monday Night Football Jags get the biggest win regular season win in maybe franchise history, but at least in the last 10 years or whatever you want to call it, since that game, the Jaguars are 0 2, being outscored 55 to 19. The Chiefs are 20 outscoring their opponents 61 to 17. Who won that game?

At what cost?

The Chiefs won that game.

Yeah. Smart move. Heady move by the Chiefs.

Yeah. Great job to let Trevor Lawrence find a way into the end zone at the end of that game.

Great job throwing that pick. Yeah. This, this game, it again should remind us that the, the rams are now 12 and 3 in their last 15 against the spread.

They're really good.

Pretty impressive win. Matt Stafford, after the game he was talking about throwing five touchdowns. His response was do I get a sword or something like for throwing five touchdowns in England?

Why don't they.

I think we should, I think we should send him a sword.

He should have to get it out of a stone.

Yeah, I think, I actually think that we should send him a sword.

We should send him a sword.

Is that legal?

Can you send a.

To mail a sword?

Let's mail him a swords. Let's mail it to Jerry and Jerry o' Connell will give it to him because he's like buddy, Buddy with them goes on their podcast.

Yeah. Next time he's on with Kelly, he'll just walk in the door carrying a sword.

I think he's a recurring. I think he's a co host.

Yeah, he's a member.

Yeah. But yeah, the Rams are really good. The Jaguars. I. So I think that, I think both teams have a buy coming up. The Jaguars need it badly because they started hot and they have not looked good the last two weeks. The Rams are 100% in Super bowl contender territory. Would you agree?

I would agree.

Yeah. They, they, they, they play next so they have a buy. Then they play the Saints at home and then, then they have like a tough little stretch where they play the Niners, Seahawks and Bucks. But I'm not. The Rams are for real. For real. They basically are in the. Can we get everyone healthy for the playoffs? Can we be healthy when the playoffs come around? Because their defense is ferocious. Matthew Stafford is still just as good as ever. If Puka Naku is out there, he cannot be like touched. And we turned found out they can just run three tight ends every single play if they want to.

Yeah, it doesn't matter. They can practice for a full week on a baseball field. That way, playing on a soccer field feels easy to them. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Nothing matters to these Rams that are going to be. Yes, super bowl contenders.

Devonte Adams, too. Yeah. Like three touchdowns. He was awesome. He's still very good. Also, here's a weird stat. When Trevor Lawrence. So this season, when Trevor Lawrence throws for 250 passing yards or more, the Jaguars are 0 and 3. When he throws under 250 passing yards, they are 4. No.

Makes sense to me.

That's not. Probably not what you want, your quarterback, but, you know, just a little more balance.

I got a question for you about the Jaguars and the number one overall draft pick. Was that 20, 23. Do you remember his name? Is he the most free. I know his name, but do you know.

Are you talking about Josh Allen?

No.

You're talking about.

He's the most forgettable number one overall pick, I think maybe in the history.

Georgia.

Yeah, Georgia.

I know his name.

Max, you know his name. Memes, you know his name, right? Your Georgia guy.

What is. Yes.

Trayvon Walker. I think he's got to be the most forgettable number one overall pick ever.

And it was two years ago.

It was two years ago.

He isn't terrible.

He's. No, that's the thing. Like, I looked up his stats.

It was 20, 22.

He's not bad, but. Yeah, but he. But he's not like, he doesn't do those flashes of. Well, it's just spectacular.

It's also just weird now we're in a day and age where it's just like, if you. If you don't go QB1 overall, you don't remember it.

Yeah.

It's like you can go back and. Was it. Was it Eric Fiser?

Yeah, Eric Fisher was one of those guys. And I didn't. I didn't realize this, but his name, his first name is actually Yuri.

Was Jake Long. First pick.

Yeah. Chris Long's brother.

Yeah. Because Dolphins. Yeah, we should just do that. Just remembering guys who got picked first overall.

His name is Yuri Walker. Yuri Trayvon. I feel like that would be a much more memorable name if he went by Yuri.

Yeah, that would def. We. It would absolutely stick.

Just call him Yuri Walker.

All right, I'm going to look up real quick so we can go down a little rabbit hole. Because. Because this. This is an interesting thing to think about. Like when you. When it's not a qb, can you always remember it? So Cam Ward, Caleb Williams, Bryce Young, Trayvon Walker, Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray Baker Mayfield. Miles Garrett. We remember Jadavian, Eric Fisher in 2013, Jake Long in 2008, Mario Williams. I feel like we remember that just because it was the Reggie Bush debate.

Yep.

And then you go all the way back. Courtney Brown in 2000. Yeah. You got to, like, keep going. It's just always quarterbacks.

And you're right. Yeah. And I think that if you play in Jacksonville, that. That also adds, like, an extra level to it where people don't talk about the Jaguars that much in the. In the national media. Yeah, this. I feel bad for Jaguars fans that have to lose this game to. To London every single year. Multiple games at times.

But it's their home game.

It's their home game. I did look in the crowd. I saw a lot of just N Shield merchandise. I think they were industry plants.

Am I. Am I making it up? But it does feel like the Jaguars are the only team that gets the 50. Like the decal in the. In the 50 yard line. I feel like a lot of times it's the NFL shield. They had the. They had the Jaguars.

Yeah. Because that's theirs.

Yeah. London is theirs.

They could afford to ship the stencil overseas.

Hank, because you love these games so much. What was your favorite part about this game?

I watched the first half, and then it was over and I stopped watching.

Okay.

I. I liked. I don't know.

That's gonna hurt the ratings. It might not go back. Yeah.

I want a Super bowl in London. The early morning games. Oh, whatever.

So we finally got you turned a little bit.

Wait, what time. What time would they play the super bowl over there?

They would.

It would air prime time.

We can't do this again. We can't do this again. But you.

You agree?

It's just too much. It was. It was a nice treat. Now it's just.

They got to do it. Like, they can't do it back to back to back to back to back.

I know.

We talked about it. They're gonna do it every single week soon.

But they. Or just start doing London football.

London football. You're right.

This was the last. The last England game of the year. Next up, we got Germany and then Spain, and then we're done.

Spain's gonna be a movie.

It was. It is gonna be a movie. It was. I took a shower at one point during this game, and I think I timed it perfectly for a turnover on downs. And then I. I'm gonna go take a shower. And I came back out and it was another turnover on doubts.

Yeah, it was a lot.

Well, that was perfect.

It was a lot of that going on, I guess.

I guess I will say something nice about the Jags. You made it so that we could kind of half watch. The second half, like I tuned in for the first half was like, all right, let's get. Let's get going. Let's get some football going. And then it was so clear. Clear that the Jaguars sucked and the Rams were going to win that the second half I was able to like, keep a side eye on.

Yeah, you didn't really have to focus that much on this game. It never. It never felt like it was close.

Yeah. What. What. What's up?

Can I say something to Trust Tree?

Yeah, please. Trust Tree. You didn't watch a second of it.

I didn't know this game existed until you guys started talking.

Oh, really?

You didn't. You thought they were on.

You didn't even see a highlight.

I thought they were on buys. I didn't see.

I didn't see. I mean, you didn't see a highlight.

I saw nothing.

The highlights were basically Devonte Adams made another touchdown catch. Yeah, it was a lot of that.

The one thing I'm. I was just looking at the box score, I feel like.

The Jags had.

A decent amount of yards for only seven points and no turnovers. I don't. I don't get how they only had seven points.

Well, they turned the ball over a bunch on down on downs, which is also a turnover.

I guess that's very funny that you somehow went the entire day.

I had no idea this game.

But that's also. And this is a good segue. That's also because Max, when the Eagles win, he spends the rest of the day like yucking it up with everyone. Like, he's like the mayor of this. This office.

Yeah.

Even admitted it, he was like, if the Eagles had lost that game, I'd just be playing Pokemon in the PMT studio right now. Instead, he was like slapping. Slapping people on the back. Just being like, this is so much fun.

He does. He just. He just walks around. He's. That Max becomes the king of small talk in this office if the Eagles win.

My mood is just so. I'm so much.

It's okay. Don't apologize for it. So that's the next game. Eagles 28, Vikings 22. We should talk about the Eagles, obviously, because Jalen hurts played great. But Carson Wentz, what a Carson Wentz performance in that first half especially. He was. He went back to back picks and the only reason it was back to back interceptions. One of them Being a pick six was that the. The, the play in. In between the interceptions was actually a fumble because he threw it backwards eight yards.

Yeah. Incomplete pass.

It was three plays.

No, it wasn't incomplete pass.

It was a fumble.

Yeah.

Yeah. But he threw it incomplete like out of bounds. And it counted as a football.

Yeah, it didn't count as a pass attempt because it was a fumble. So that was. It was interception minus 8 yards. Fumble. Interception.

Yeah, the. The first interception was very funny. He got folded in half by Jalen Carter and then just laid on the ground for. I. I realized something watching this game, Max, and I can't control how I feel. Feelings are never wrong. It's how we react to our feelings that can be wrong. I think I enjoy rooting against Carson Wentz more than I enjoy rooting against the Eagles because watching this game, I found my allegiance going against Carson Wentz. Like, I wasn't happy that the Eagles were winning, but I was like I was hoping for worse and worse stuff to happen to Carson Wentz every time he dropped back to pass. I think I'll just. Having him as your quarterback will leave a deep scar on you that you will never forget. It was very funny the way that you were treating him.

Oh, yeah. There's multiple times where Max was just like saying Carson Wentz then belly laughing.

Yeah, well.

Oh, there was one.

Jalen Carter hit.

Yeah.

The hit you made everyone in the gambling key. You're like, everyone watch this.

Yeah, it was funny.

It was so hilarious.

And then you saw his face like right after as he was getting hit was. It was awesome.

Yeah, I. I've got a little. A little game that we can play here. It's called Schefter versus Schefter. You ready for this?

Yes. This game I love.

New game alert. This is what Schefter. This is what Shefter tweeted out today. When Vikings quarterback J.J. mcCarthy suffered a week two high ankle sprain, doctors expected it to be a six week injury. Nothing has changed. It still looks like a six week injury, which means McCarthy would miss next week and possibly be able to return in week nine at Detroit. That's Schefter number one. Now entering the arena is Adam Schefter. Number two. This is back from the day that. The day after J.J. mcCarthy actually sprained his ankle. ESPN sources. Vikings quarterback J.J. mcCarthy is expected to be sidelined two to four weeks with a high ankle sprain. But wait, Adam, but just today you said when it happened, doctors expected to be a six week injury and Nothing has changed. It still looks like a six week injury.

Huh.

What is going on?

He got Community noted.

He got Community with his own tweet now.

Why.

Why did the timeline change, Adam?

Huh?

Let's unpack that. I have a theory.

Yes.

I mean, it's probably the same as all of your guys theories. I thought something was kind of weird in Minnesota when they, they kind of cycled through a bunch of backup quarterbacks over the summer. And my theory that I asked Flory about at the time and he laughed at me like I was a fool, was that they just don't want J.J. mcCarthy to feel like there's any pressure on him in case he has to. In case he doesn't start out the season playing well.

Yes.

And he got injured. It was a real injury, but I don't think it was a six to eight week injury when he sprained his ankle. And then they put Carson Wentz and. Who is the most stopgap quarterback ever?

Yep.

You know that you're going to have these types of games from Carson Wentz and nobody out there is going to say Carson Wentz should be starting over J.J. mcCarthy.

Correct.

And now they're just really taking their time bringing JJ Back after playing. He had one great quarter that he played against the Bears.

Yes, he did.

But besides that, he hasn't really looked. He hasn't really done anything to be excited about.

Nope.

Since he started. I think that that's. That plays into how o' Connell is handling the situation right now where it's just like, we need this guy to take more time.

Here's. Here's the other theory. And, and we all do this. When you maybe make a mistake and you don't really want to face that mistake. You're like, oh, I have to, I have to go. I have to do something. I have to go. You know, go to the dmv. I up or I have to go fight this ticket. I. I'm gonna keep putting it off as long as I possibly can until.

They tell your car.

Until they tell your car. Because I don't want to admit that I made a mistake.

Yep.

They don't have to face the fact that they didn't resign Sam Darnold. Until JJ McCarthy officially sucks. And if he doesn't play, you can never say he officially sucks.

Well, they had.

And I don't think he sucks. We'll see. He's young. He's got to play. Like, I'm not saying JD But I'm saying if he sucks, they don't have to. And they might know he sucks, they might think he sucks through practice, whatever, but they don't actually have to face that fact if he's not playing.

I mean, everything we know about J.J. mcCarthy would be. This guy would like, step over a dead body to get back out onto the field.

Correct.

And this seems like a long injury form. Not only. Not only Sam Darnold, they had Daniel Jones, too, in the building.

Yeah.

Now, I don't know if they would have ever dreamed of paying him as much as the Colts did, but it was still an option. They had. They had Darnold, they had Daniel Jones, they had some other backups that came in and out.

It.

It just seems kind of strange. And.

And listen, as bad as the Carson Wentz first half was, it was the Vikings defense that was. Was not good today because they have a good defense. They have. I think going into the game, they had the second best passing defense in terms of passing yards. Loud. And Jalen Hurts had maybe his best game in a long time, at least. What would you say, Max? Jalen Hurts was phenomenal today. He had a perfect, perfect passer rating. That's the third time ever in Eagles history. The other two, McNabb and Foals, he was 5 for 5, 216 yards, three touchdowns on passes over 20 yards. He was dropping absolute dimes. He also didn't have any rush yards.

He actually had negative 10 rush yards.

Negative 10.

He looks like it was from that. The last couple plays when they were.

Trying to kill time, he never even thought about running the football today. He just sometimes where it was open, he could have gotten like 6, 7 yards without breaking a sweat. And he was just like, no, I'm not going to do that today.

No.

Yeah, he.

I think this was his best regular season game of his career. When we, like, really, really needed in.

He was really good. The deep balls were awesome.

For some reason, Jalen Hurts always plays his best football. When everyone says that he sucks.

Yeah. The entire. So wait, so you should. When we say he sucks, you shouldn't get mad.

Yeah. Yeah.

We. We're. We're. We're doing you a favor.

Yeah. I think. I think even I said that he sucked. I did.

I think I did definitely said he sucked.

I think I did add right now. I think I did add a right now.

Yeah.

But said that I shouldn't be held accountable for anything that I said that episode because it was right after the Phillies lost.

That's true. He was 19 for 23, 326 yards, three touchdowns. No interceptions, was hitting Devonte Smith, was hitting A.J. brown. Everything looked like it worked except for the run game, which still looks like.

Run game was a problem. Cam Jergens being out could be. Could be a big issue going forward. Hopefully he can get back soon.

But overall, very good game for the Eagles. Are you happy because this was your must win or you're burning it all down game?

Yeah. No, and it looked like that. It looked like they needed. They knew that they needed to win this game and get. And write the ship, because if they lost this game to Carson Wentz and looked as bad as they did against the Giants, I think that locker room would have just absolutely crumbled.

Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, your game plan today after. After Jurgens went out was basically like, let's do everything that we can to keep our wide receivers very happy with the offense. And it works. It works. The offense is good enough where you don't need jurgens all the time.

183 from Devonte, 121 from A.J. we'll take that all day.

You know who else doesn't need Jurgens right now?

Who's that?

Mr. Rossini.

Yeah.

Probably pretty happy. Probably pretty happy night.

Yeah.

In the Birds household.

It was a good night. I would like to see if. If the locker room is. Is dysfunctional.

Okay. By the way, I have a question for you, Max, and this is not great game by the Eagles.

What's going to be. This is going to be some bullshit.

It's just a question. Can I ask a question? Can we. Can we speak in truth?

Wait, wait. Can I ask you a question first?

Yeah.

Is this about to be some.

No, it's not.

Okay. All right.

Why does Jalen Hurts talk like he's a fortune cookie?

Yeah.

Good question.

Thank you.

He can talk as he can talk however he wants.

So. So on Friday, I brought up, he had the quote, smile and accept the challenge. That's a fortune cookie. And then today he had. It's not a time to hope. It's not a time to want or wish something could happen. It's a time to make it happen. That is a fortune cookie. Jalen hurts.

You don't know wisdom.

Does he have a little. Okay, this is actually the heart. So fortune cookie talk by Jalen Hurts actually is something.

Sometimes cliches play, though.

Yeah.

That's not a cliche. It's not a time to hope. It's not a time to want or wish something could happen. It's time to make it happen.

That's a. That's a well spoken man right there.

I feel like I. Look, we can have some fun with this after. He had an incredible day. He was incredible. Today I'm giving Jalen Hurts his flowers. I'm just wondering why he keeps handing me back a fortune cookie. The hard question. So I'm going to be monitoring this. I think it's very funny. I think it'd be funny if he just leans into it and just does only fortune cookie talk. The thing I'd be nervous about if I were you, Max, is these type of quotes are like some early, early signs of Russell Wilson. That's when you've. That's. That's. That's when you start seeing. You're like, oh, is this. Do we got to rust? He's always in the locker room. Yeah, I know, but we should make.

Jalen Hurts fortune cook cookies.

Yes.

Just take all of his quotes and put them and make them fortune cookies.

I'm saying it in a nice. Like, he had an incredible day. I like, Jalen Hurts as a quarterback. He's a Super bowl champion. Super bowl mvp. Seems like an awesome dude. Guy just likes to talk in fortune cookies.

And there's nothing wrong with that if you're winning.

Yeah.

Because if you're winning, everybody sees these weird quotes, and they're like, I'm so bought in this guy. This guy's operating on a different level. And the second it doesn't work, you're like, wow, that guy's kind of a cornball. Maybe we should bench him for Kirk Cousins. This is what happens.

Yes. He's talking about RG3.

I was talking about RG3.

He's talking about RG3.

Yeah. No, that didn't. That's not gonna happen.

It's not?

No, it's not. It's not.

Because he's. He's good enough.

Yeah.

He can say whatever he wants.

Yeah, he had a great game.

Yeah, he had a great game.

He could just recite, like, the Zodiac letters in his postgame press conference and everybody be like, yep.

Go, Birds.

Follow me. Also, having Jalen Carter and Quinyan Mitchell back was very important. Jalen Carter was a monster in this game.

That hit. That hit was. I felt. I felt that one in my chest.

Oh, you did?

Yeah.

How do you feel after that?

Fat.

Oh, yeah. Here's the other one. I just looked. Jalen Hurts goes. I had a purpose before everybody had an opinion. Yeah, that's a fortune cookie.

Yeah, that's like.

That's a senior quote right there.

Yeah, great quote. I didn't Walk through all that fire just to smell the smoke.

He's getting these from somewhere.

Lucky numbers. 3. 48. Oh, sorry. Probably six whiplash in his head.

Numbers.

Let's see. I'm gonna. I'm gonna look up.

We just. We just need as. As a national sports podcast. This will be our beat. We just got to be on this beat.

That's fair.

The people want these type of things. This is what they come to the show for. They don't come for us to break down coverages. They come to us to be like, hey, is Jalen Hurts? Just. Is he just Panda Express? Is he just getting all his quotes from Panda Express?

Last week, people were real, real, real mad about the fortune cookie responses, and this week, it's fine.

Do you remember when Russell Wilson, he wrote russell, wait. No, this is relevant.

Stop doing that.

This is. This is relevant. It's when he wrote, like, a Valentine's Day letter to Sierra and he, like, posted online, and then it. People found out that he just googled what to say to a beautiful woman and just copy and pasted the first response to that, and then he posted for everybody. I feel like Jalen Hurts is heavy into AI and just, like, looking up on AI like, hey, what are some. What are some good motivational quotes that I could say?

I am humble because I've been humbled.

Yeah. Yeah.

I kind of like this. I like this.

Yeah, no, it's. It's. I don't know. I. I. I'll just keep saying he's wise. He's a. He's.

He was awesome today. That's all that needs. He was.

He was very good.

Also, did you like Lane Johnson? Basically saying, I'm not talking to the media because last week, you guys took it out of context, and I'm not hurting our team anymore. That's a good teammate move.

Love that.

He's just like, we're. I know. I know what's gonna happen if I say anything. So we're just not gonna say anything. We're gonna win games.

If Lane needs to say anything, he can. He can tell us.

Yeah.

That's facts. Yeah. The fake Lane Johnson. I was texting for your 10 as well. You have anything you want to get off your. Check your chest, man? Just hit me up.

Max, what do you think about BG threatening to come back?

I love it. I don't think. I think he's done.

But do you think he's done in terms of, like, he. He can't get it done.

He's old, man. Like, last year he was good, but you could tell he was looking old. And I. Something tells me he's not, like, staying in game shape.

This is actually maybe the best way this could have played out for him. Like, he gets to do one week of being like, maybe I'll come back. And then everybody in Philly's like, yeah, come on. Come on, dude, We. We love you. We miss you. You're the missing piece. And then you win a game. He's like, actually, I'm good. I'm good. I had that moment where I worked out really hard last week, hit the gym a bunch, and now I don't have to come back. But it was fun to think that I was going to come back. Agreed. I don't know that that smashing the Brandon Graham button fixes anything.

Agreed.

Yeah, I don't.

I don't know if he's actually the missing piece.

No, you guys are good. This is a big win.

We're okay.

A great game by Jayla's Hunt, and.

You have the Giants coming up. You got to get revenge. If you beat the Giants, then you're basically like that two, two game blip. Yeah.

Just be like.

And then.

And then we get a buy and then Nolan Smith comes back. That's. That's. We really need Nolan Smith back.

Yeah. So then just get healthy.

Get healthy.

Get healthy.

Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. What is up with Cam Juergens? I feel like you guys get a.

Knee and that's the biggest difference between this year and last year is that we just don't have the same depth.

Like, offensive line. Yeah. Makai, Becton.

When guys got hurt last year, we just had enough depth for people for it to be all right, but now it's just not the same.

Yeah, maybe. I mean, Saquon's going to be fresh because he hasn't had a lot of yards. It's not like he didn't carry and yeah, it's not like he's bad. It's just. He has. The yards just aren't there, though.

I can see, like, he's getting so frustrated because, like, he's getting, like, tough three yard runs.

Right?

You know what I mean? Like, there were a couple runs today where he should have been stopped in the backfield. And then he, like, fought for four yards, which, like, doesn't look great in the stat sheet, but yeah, it's not his fault.

You know what, though? He'll be fine. He'll be fine when you need him.

Yeah. We'll figure it out.

Yeah.

Okay. Next up, Bears 26, Saints 14. The Bears have now won four in a row for the first time since 2018. This was an ugly win. Not the cleanest game from Caleb Williams. He didn't play very well, looked like he had no flow. But the Bears have a somewhat of an identity where their defense is incredible. Taking the ball away. They had four turnovers, takeaways again today. They've had 15 in the last four games. And they run the fuck out of the ball because DeAndre Swift looked awesome, Manangay looked awesome. They had 225 yards. Just shoved it down the Saints throat. And that's a credit to Ben Johnson who fixed that in the bi week. And the run game looks totally different the last two games than it did the first four. And yeah, it was sloppy but a win is a win and the gateway remains open.

So what is the gateway to?

The gateway is to. When I, when I said it before the Cowboys game, I said don't be shocked if this team is 6 and 3 or 5, 5 and 4 after nine games.

Okay.

So they are now 4 and 2. The Gateway is very much open. Big game against the Ravens next week. But yeah, this is. Look, Caleb didn't play well. He said it and he looked, he looked it. He just wasn't. There was weird shit with Drew Dahlman in the center. You know, he's our center, like with snaps. A couple times. Actually one of them saved us because there was the, the. The fourth and goal on the two yard line that this. There was a false start and we got to kick a field goal which it was a play that was going to get blown up.

Are you talking about the one where he snapped the ball between his legs, Caleb touched the ball and then the center brought the ball back between his own legs twice. That's such a weird thing to have.

So, so he did it once that way and then the other way was he. He like moved the ball. Caleb went to get it and then he. But he didn't move the ball and then he tried to snap it. Caleb fell on it. They whistled it. They were like hey, that's false start. You gotta. And then we kicked a field.

He did got your nose with the ball. Yeah, he was like got it.

But that was kind of what the game like. It was sloppy in the run game. Saved us and the defense saved us. The defense is like kind of good. I don't know. I was taking the ball away. Yeah, I'm always nervous about like when you live and die. Fifteen takeaways in four games is insane. You're not going to be able to do that every single week. So. I understand that. But they also are playing that aggressive style where they're ball hawking and yet this is a game that they had to win because they're better than the Saints and they won this game. It didn't look great, but that doesn't matter because they won this game. Next week against the Ravens will be a big test and I was happy that they won this game. They also are the only team in the NFL to score 21 plus points in every game this year.

That's pretty crazy.

Yeah.

So you said that they, they've won four in a row. First time since 2018.

Yeah.

With Mitch, they are averaging 25 points a game.

Yep.

That's also for the first time since 2018.

Yep.

And they're leading the league in takeaways through this point this year. That is also the first time since 2018.

And similar to 2018. Can the quarterback come along?

Feels like 18.

Can, can the quarterback take, takes take more steps forward to, to unlock everything.

That's actually not a hashtag you want to use. It feels like 18.

No, because that was, that was the story of 2018. That defense was incredible and Mitch was young and it was just like, can Mitch get better week by week? And Caleb has gotten better in the course of this season. Today was a step back, but that's also, I, I, I've, I've taken a lot more rational approach to the Bears this season. Step backs are not killer, especially when you win the game.

Yeah.

You can't be down about like a, a poor performance from Caleb when you win the game.

And your running game was very good. Today again, it's been.

Ben Johnson wants to run the ball. That's what he did in Detroit.

That's what you forget about great, like boy genius offensive coordinators is. They're very, very good at scheming up the run. Like the, the crazy plays where he's in his bag and the deep shots, that gets a lot of attention. But elite offensive coordinators just make the running game seem so easy and so smooth. So your running backs, your running backs today as a whole, as a tandem, average 6 1/2 yards per carry.

They were awesome.

And DeAndre Swift is back to looking like the DeAndre Swift of old when he was at the peak of his powers.

Yeah, he's running hard. He's, he's hitting the hole hard. He's not dancing around. He's like making the correct cuts. It's, it looks awesome. And he, you Know if this is going to be a team that has to to get by on defense and running the football and have Caleb slowly progress, I mean that's. If you just look at what he's done this season. DeAndre Swift, he had 53 yards, 63 yards, 33 yards, 38 yards by week, 108 yards, 124 yards. It's clear what Ben Johnson was doing during the bi week and he was fixing the run game and it feels like he's simplified everything so that we can run the football and play good defense. And that's what the Bears did today. And yeah, again it's the Saints. So I'm not going to sit here and be like, you know, that was incredible for the Puff your chest out. I will say there is something that's starting to make me very happy to watch and it is packers fans complaining about the Bears winning these games. Because I did. I bookmarked it. Let me find it. This one made me laugh. Where is it? I gotta find it.

It was Mark. Old Acres, I assume is a Packers fans. He said teams aren't even trying when they play the Bears. Shaking my head.

Yeah. No, it's true. It's true. That made me happy as a commander's fan Monday night. I weren't even trying. I don't care who cares about this game. It's too. It's just a. It's a not. It's not in our division. So who gives a shit?

But I.

That's exactly what the Saints thought today.

This is the progression. I've talked about the progression into being no longer a bad team. We're trying to get to a good team. We're somewhere in the middle right now. Another step, not only beating a team you're supposed to beat, even if it looks sloppy at times. Another step in the progression is packers fans complaining that our opponents aren't even.

Trying, which is great.

That that means we're getting closer and closer. When they start noticing and saying teams aren't even trying against the Bears. Shaking my head.

Yeah. You're not rent free, but it rent stabilized.

Yeah.

Yeah. You got a voucher.

Yeah. And 4:2 is fun. It's fun.

It is. Isn't that cool to like look at your team and be like 4 and 2. Just look at the record.

It's fun.

It's so much fun.

We're technically. I believe if the playoffs started today we would still be on the outside looking in because the NFC is really good, which is. It's nuts how good the NFC is I think the Saints are. I think we actually can say after today the Saints are the only really bad team in the nfc.

I don't know that the Saints are really bad, though.

Spencer Rattler took a step back. He was not. He. And. And we almost up the game because he did have that. That middle eight. The Saints were cooking.

They.

They ripped down the field to end the first half, scored in the. To start the second half, was like, looked up like, holy fuck, it's six point game. But yeah, he had too many mistakes today. He sunk the Saints.

I think that the. The Saints are not good. They're a bad team. But I think I would probably put three teams in the AFC beneath them, right?

Jets, Titans, Dolphins for sure.

Yeah. Jets, Titans, Dolphins, Browns are probably Raiders.

Raiders, four teams. Yeah.

I would take. Whose spread would it be anyways? Raiders at Saints.

You're right. I would take. Yeah, those four teams. Now did. Did the Saints lose to any of them? Are we gonna. Yeah, we're probably gonna get cracked.

Hey, let me look at The Saints.

Actually got dummied by the Raiders, you idiots. That. That always happens to us.

Saints only beat the Giants. Okay.

They only beat the Giant.

Okay. The Saints have lost two.

No, I'm saying if the Raiders had beaten the Saints, that would have been very much us. Wherever. We say that confidently. And then everyone's like, hey, Raiders fucked him up.

Week two, you forgot, Saints lost to the Cardinals. Week one, lost to the 49ers, lost to the Seahawks. Lost to the Bills. Lost to the Patriots. Lost to the Bears. So, yeah, I would. I would take all four of those teams from the afc.

Yeah.

And put them beneath the Saints. Actually, if we're doing the. The power of comparison here. Patriots beat the Saints 25 19. Bears beat the Saints 26 14.

That's interesting.

It is interesting.

It's interesting. That's interesting.

What are your thoughts, Hank?

I mean, the Saints had crazy, you know, assistance from the rest, and they still couldn't beat the Patriots. I didn't. I don't think it was as bad for the Bears today.

Well, teams don't try again.

Yeah, teams aren't even trying. It's disgusting. Shaking my head.

You don't think about the Patriots at all, though?

What?

PFG doesn't think about the Patriots at all.

I know. Who cares? Why would I. Why would I think about the Patriots?

I was just looking at scores.

Yeah. I just looked it up right now.

Yeah.

And I wanted to compare. I'm sorry for saying you. You admitted that was interesting when I Said that I was.

Yeah.

Yeah, you were interested.

Are you a little upset, Hank, that I'm not. That I'm taking a rational approach to this?

No.

Okay. It's a long season because you. You want me to, like, get my hopes all the way up and be like, bears are back.

I don't.

I.

It's.

It's a long season, like, because I.

Don'T think they are. I. I think a decent team right now. Not good.

I want the Bears to make the playoffs.

Okay.

Six out of ten.

Yeah. You can't.

You can't make the playoffs and not get excited.

I'll tell you this. Six out of ten might.

That's the key.

I'll. I'll say this for. For the sickos and perverts. Hank, I'm looking at you. We could finally move off 6 out of 10 if they go to Baltimore and beat Baltimore in a healthy Lamar Jackson. Yeah. That could possibly move me to a six and a half.

Yeah.

So we'll. We'll. We'll find out. I do think we'll be able to run the ball on them.

And Hank, I actually don't think about the Patriot. I think about you. I think about defeating you.

Thank you.

How'd the hungry dog do?

Oh, who's in the hungry dog?

The hungry dog's up on the season. That's all that matters.

Who was in the hungry dog this week? Because we do talk about it.

The hungry dog was the Bears, Saints and. And Commanders, which was the.

Wait, what you Bears and the Saints.

I mean, the sorry, Saints, Vikings and Commanders.

Oh, all right. How'd that do?

So zone three?

Yeah.

Huh.

That's interesting.

Did you reverse hungry Dog it. Why?

No, I did not.

Oh, because you would have won.

It's up on the season. Yeah, it's up on the season.

You would have won if you went. It's up big on Eagles, Cowboys and Bears.

It's up big on the season.

I wonder how much the reverse hunger.

The.

The fat cat parlay would be.

Would have been.

Nice start taking it. No counter 10. Also, shout out Kevin Byard. He's got four interceptions this season. He's been awesome.

Should have had a fifth today, too.

Yeah, there was a couple. There was a couple. Like, that's where Spencer Rattler. I. I was singing his praises. He's not as bad as I. As people think he is. I was wrong. I. I think he might be worse. I actually know that I'd be right.

I disagree. I. I think he's.

No, I would be right. I looked Bad. He was not as. He's not as bad as people think he is. He's worse.

Yeah, no, I looks really bad. I still think he's not as bad as people think he is. Yeah, today. Today was bad. Today was ugly bad. His worst game, probably as a pro.

Do you think they're ever going to.

Give Tyler Schuck a start?

That's what we were saying on. On Friday. It's like we. You haven't really heard that name.

Would you give him a start, Zach?

If I'm the Saints?

Yeah.

Throw him in there.

Yeah. Why not? Because Spencer Rattle and there was a possession where he tried to give like, it was like four different interceptions that didn't. That weren't intercepted. And then the fourth was like, all right, finally we're going to take the ball.

Yeah. Today was not good for the Spencer Rattler truthers.

No, no.

I consider myself one of them.

I guess I was one of them till today as well. Yeah, I was like, I. The whole time people were asking me what I thought about this game, I was like, I think he's better than you think.

Yeah.

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Yeah, this is. This is.

Well, you guys both could have taken 37 on Friday when we did the show, and you would have gotten a point.

Well, no, when I was looking, it.

Was 36 and a half, and so.

I took that, but it wasn't. It was plus 100. No, that was the whole problem.

Hank and I are like the Bloods and the.

We agree on that.

Pft.

Yeah.

Yeah, we agree on that. We got. When I was looking at the DraftKings sportsbook, which is the app that we go by, right? Yes, that's. That's our sponsor. I love DraftKings. They've got the best lines. What they say is gold as far as I'm concerned. When we put our picks in the line said 37 and a half, and I took the under on that.

Hank wanted over 36 and a half. So, Hank, that's what I saw. That's not what you. That's just not true.

So because Hank's bad at reading the lines correct, I get punished.

Correct. So, I mean, you can go back.

Don't look at me. I don't know why you looked at me.

I'm looking at everybody.

No, Hank looked at me.

You did look at Max.

It went up as we were recording. I don't know what.

You guys could have just taken 37. You could have agreed to it. It's hilarious. That shout out to one Awl who had the perfect score. He bet it 31 6.

That's both. I told you it was a key number. 37 was a key number.

The most key number. Yeah, the number one key number.

I was. I was so sharp that I knew it was going to be 37. I didn't want to take it. Got bullied into it. But that's fine. That's fine. I ended. Listen, I ended up negotiating myself out of a bad. A very strong position on Thursday's show. This was. This was maybe the straw that broke the camel's back for Mike McDaniel.

Would you say that showing up to the game that will most likely get you fired as the Unabomber is probably not the best look? Because that's what Mike McDaniel looked like. He had the glasses on in the rainbow Hood up, Unabomber.

Didn't get caught for being. For being such a wanted guy.

Yeah, you're also smart guy. He was smart.

He had a lot of degrees, went to Harvard. I mean, he's a Michigan man and Harvard. Yeah, but a Michigan man was a Yale guy.

Yeah, that's true. But let's talk about the Browns first, because then we have a lot to talk about. Tua and Mike McDaniel. The Browns, first time in 11 weeks they score over 17 points. They scored 31. They did. They had basically a perfect game plan for this weather. They just pounded Quin. Sean Judkins, Dylan Gabriel threw it 18 times. They went in jumbo set, like constantly just being like, hey, you see what we're set, what we're lined up in. We're going to run the ball and it's still going to work. He had three touchdowns. Their defense was phenomenal. They turned two over three times. They actually forced. I don't know if some were slippery, but there were six fumbles by the Dolphins. They recovered five of the six, so they only lost one fumble. But the Browns, the Browns are built for this weather. This is why we can't do the Kurt Warner, everyone playing a dome. The Browns should be able to get like one win a year just based on the sideways rain, wind bullshit.

Yeah, the. The. The bring a poncho, bring your towel game. Yeah, they know how. That's the 12th man for the Browns is the weather. And this was. It was ugly. It was always going to be ugly. And the Browns had a great game plan for the defense. That works well in the shitty weather, too.

Yep.

The Browns now have won two games in the past 329 days, which is pretty crazy. They doubled their win total.

Yeah.

The last 329 days. And I. I had a thought when I was watching this. This is like textbook prisoner of the moment. I admit I'm being prisoner of the moment when I say this. I like this, but I thought about it, and I'm still in the moment, so I might still be prisoner.

Okay.

I actually think that the Browns might be in a good position for the next, like two. Two years from now. Two years from now, the Browns might be. Okay, maybe let me address that. At the end of two years from now, things will start to look bright for the Browns, and then I think they might be in a good spot.

Okay. So I want to agree with you. The only question I have, as always with these teams, is who's going to be owning the team game in two years?

It's still going to be Mr. Haslam.

That's a problem.

Yep. Yeah. Again, I understand that the ownership is going to be the same. Probably the same general manager next year. Desean Watson, I think has an $80 million cap hit that's about to kick in. But the defense is awesome and they've got a lot of young pieces on defense. And they've got two first round picks next year.

They have 10 total picks next year, including two first round picks.

Two first round picks. Dylan Gabriel is probably not the answer at quarterback.

No.

Shador.

But he won a game.

Probably won't. He probably won't see the field. Maybe they'll convince somebody to trade like a fourth round pick for sure of the season.

Yep.

But the defense is good enough and they've got a good young running back and they've got a good young tight end. Their offensive line has some good guys. Yeah, they're not a great line, but they've got some good guys on the offensive line.

I like this.

And they've got. But everyone keeps telling me I'm crazy for saying that Stefanski is a good head coach. You have to remember.

Very good.

He is the Browns head coach.

Right.

He. The. The groceries that he cooks with were purchased for him by Andrew Barry and Jimmy Haslam and he can only work with what he's got. I think Stefanski is a good head coach.

He had nothing to do with desean Watson.

I actually think two years from now the Browns could be a very good.

When is desean Watson come off the books?

Well, I just saw. I think the $80 million is next year and then I think they're free.

Okay.

I think they're free of them after the 80 mil which is just a crazy cap hit to take.

Listen, I want the Browns to be good. It'll be. They're. They're like next up in the fan bases, you know, Lions. Obviously. Dan Campbell's transformed that franchise. The Browns. The Browns need it. They especially because there's like a chance that Baker wins mvp.

Yeah.

But yeah, the Browns. This was a fun day for Browns fans. You want a true Browns football game where you just dominated on defense. Did you guys see too our co worker, Ohio's Tate. He's. He's a crazy, crazy sports fan. He bought his dad a whiskey glass for Christmas called the perfect whiskey glass and it was only to be used when his high school team won Ohio State 1 and the Browns won all on the same weekend. So he. Today was the first day he could pour and use that glass that's the first time. Yeah. It was awesome.

That is good.

Perfect whiskey glass. That is good. It's pretty fun.

There's nothing like when you hit. When you hit the. All the stars line up over the course of a weekend and you get like a good equinox for a sad sports town. Yeah. Good for them.

The perfect. The perfect weekend is. The perfect sports weekend is. Is quite something.

Now on the other end, the Dolphins, I feel like they should just start Quinn Newers now.

So they pulled Tua. He had three picks. It was also weird because afterwards I think, what. What were they down when they pulled two? Were they down 31 6?

It was a lot. Yeah.

And Mike McDaniel afterwards was like. Yeah, it was. You know, it was much more about him and what he was doing on the football field. I thought he gave us the best chance to win. Talking about Quinn Ewers, you had no chance of winning that game. You just were frustrated with watching to a throw. Pick after pick after pick.

Yeah. And I'm not saying like, Quinn, yours is going to give you a better chance to win over the course of the season, but, like, start Quinn yours, because fuck it.

Tua was 12 for 23, 100 yards, zero touchdowns, three interceptions. It's just been. You remember. Remember the Dolphins? Yeah. There's the perfect class. See it? The. A drink to celebrate the perfect weekend when the high school Buckeyes and Browns team all win. That's pretty cool.

That is nice.

Remember when the Dolphins was two years ago, when they were nine and three and just demolishing everyone and everyone's like this. This offense can't be stopped.

Yep.

It's just been doom and gloom since.

Yeah, yeah. It's been. It's been really rough. And I. I feel for McDaniels, the fact that he has to go out there and keep addressing the media about his own firing.

He called it offensive.

He called it. He said, the way I look at this job is I find it very offensive to all parties involved that you're asking me if I'm going to be fired. If I'm thinking about having a job, I need to be doing my job. As long as I'm the coach for the Miami Dolphins, they will get everything from me. I refuse to spend my time thinking about something that you have your job, you do your job, and you do it to the best of your ability. And that's where my concern lies. I think it's offensive to all coaches, players in the organization if I'm spending that precious time thinking about Myself. Yeah, I think he should spend some time thinking about himself. Yeah, I think he probably is sometimes spending some time thinking about it.

Like, what team does he want to go be an awesome offensive coordinator for next?

Yeah, he. He has any number of very cushy landing spots that he could take if you want.

He'll be a great offensive coordinator somewhere.

Which is a very cool to have, and he'll probably win Super Bowls as an offensive coordinator.

Honestly, if I can. If I can be honest with you, like, I think I'd rather be an offensive coordinator than a head coach. Yeah, you just get to draw plays and you don't have to do as much work. You get paid a lot of money.

Game like this, you can go sit in the booth.

Yeah.

Nobody even sees how low your pant legs go on your ankles.

You hang with the boys. Yeah. He was wearing rain pants today.

He was wearing pants.

Congrats to him.

He.

He did wear appropriate pants for the one and six record. Is it one in six? One. One. One in six? Yeah, I think they're one in six. They're just bad, bad, bad, bad. Really, really bad. That's all I got. Oh, actually, I have. I have Tyreek Hill's tweets during the game which sum up the Dolphins perfectly. He said, watching your team play through a TV is hard. That's facts. Let's go Finns. Let's turn this thing around in the second half. And then his next tweet was also. Rashid Rice is so dangerous. Chiefs back rolling. Love to see it. He definitely turned off the Dolphins game to watch the Chiefs. Oh, yeah, he's watching. Without a doubt. He was out of doubt. He was like, I can't watch this anymore.

There was one cool play for the. For the Dolphins today. I think it was Larry Broom.

Yes.

He. Was that a fumble or was that a reception that it was like.

Yeah, I don't know what it.

I think it was a fumble that bounced into his hand. Yeah, it's hard to tell sometimes with two if it's a fumble or a pick y. But yeah, it just took a car into his hands. Larry Borum, number 79, and he got jacked up. I love watching offensive linemen run with the football because they. They don't have any of the awareness of where defenders are coming from that a receiver would have and credit to him for not fumbling.

Yeah, he's a Bear. He was. He was a Bear. That's. That's never a good sign when you're have ex Bear offensive linemen. No playing Offensive line for you? No, because we're not exactly known for offensive line. Right. And yeah, also the dolphins were one of 13 on third down. It was just. It's. It's just if you didn't watch this game, every stat is actually not doing justice to how bad the Dolphins were. They just. They just could not do anything at all whatsoever.

It's like they didn't. They didn't think to game plan for the weather. Right.

And you just, it was just all so, so bad.

Yeah.

So, so bad. But credit the Browns. I'm happy for Browns fans. The perfect weekend for Browns and Ohio State fans. Okay, next up, Hank. Patriots 31, Titans 13. That was a. Were you scared at any moment? It was scared.

I mean, the, the Cam or touchdown, you know, they took a lead early and it was like, ooh, is this not going to be. Is this going to be a tight game?

It was a 103 game, then it was a 1310 game, then it was 13 10, Titans 103 Titans. And then it was 31 13. And it all happened in basically a blink of an eye because it was Drake May touchdown pass to Cam Ward with a true what? Fumble. Where it was comically bad, where he just empty hand, nothing in it, right in the shadow of his goal end zone.

He does that a lot.

Yeah. Small hands, just nothing there. But remember, when he starts playing the way he wants to play, league's gonna be, watch out.

Yep, it did.

It did feel like though, Hank, to start this game, you're like, oh, is this a. Is this a Mike McCoy, like, you know, fired coach bump here? But it lasted for maybe a quarter.

Yeah, they got a quarter out of it. And Mike, Mike McCoy is not just looking at him. Not interim head coach material.

Yep.

They got to get an interim. Interim head coach.

They got to get someone fatter.

Yeah, he did. Do you see him doing the stuff, the steps before the game? You know, Vrabel always does that. He goes up and down the stadium steps. He was just like walking up and down the steps like, this man is not getting anybody fired off.

Yep, yep.

He.

Yeah, the.

The.

The Patriots killed him. Drake May does not throw in completions. It's pretty crazy. He was 21 or so. Yeah, 21 for 23. 91% completion percentage.

Franchise record for a quarterback.

Franchise record. Andy's 77.1% on the season. Season pretty damn good.

Yeah, very good. And that defense. Titans didn't get a 50 yard rusher. The Patriots still have not allowed 50 yards to a running back all season.

It's exciting.

What are you thinking?

I mean, we're. We're on a good run. We got a great schedule coming up.

Who you play next? Let's play. Who's on Zenway from DraftKings. Where is that game, Gillette? That's probably gonna be patriots six minus four and a half.

I would have said four and a half as well.

Six and a half. What is it?

DraftKings sportsbook Patriots or Browns at Patriots? It is six and a half.

Six and a half.

Yep. I'm dialed on these lines, man.

Damn.

Dialed.

Okay. You feel good about that game?

Feel great about that game? I feel great about this team. I feel great. I mean, Ryan Whitney, he texted me, said you gotta give those idiots a bunch of heat for, you know, laughing at you when you mentioned the Patriots being the best team in this podcast. So I'm excited.

Are they?

They're not currently.

So then why would you wit. Why would he laugh right now?

Because we're on the right path.

But the Bucks are here and the Eagles are here. Are the Patriots better than the Bucks and the Eagles right now?

Yes.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

Well, then you can laugh then. Feel free to laugh. You can laugh.

But yeah, laugh.

Feel free. That was a joke.

You play who you play, man.

But feel free to laugh.

What would you like us to do about the schedule?

So unequivocally you're saying better.

I remember you saying the same thing to the Commanders last year.

Nope.

It's all set.

I don't remember saying that last year.

I don't remember saying that last year.

Max is right.

But no, I mean, you got to play who you play, and then you put. You get into the playoffs and you have to play the good teams. Eventually you're going to have to play good teams.

Yeah.

And that's what people said about the Commanders. They made it to the NFC Championship.

Yeah. Beat a couple of good teams.

Yeah, it's true. Who's the next good team you play? The Bucks.

They just don't.

The Bucks at the Bucks.

That'll be a fun game.

Yeah. Good test that will be. Stephen Che will be all up in your ass. And Zach.

And Zach.

Ooh.

Oh.

Oh.

He'S so bad at being cocky.

Hank can't help.

He's so cocky.

He can't help it. Hank, what would disappointment look like to you this season?

Disappointment would look like not making the playoffs.

You guys did lose to the Raiders.

That's a great point.

Yeah, we did. It's too bad they beat the Bills because otherwise you would have Been able to do that stat.

I know. The bill. The bill.

Well, you know what I'll do? I'll just toss in a casual on Sunday. Oh, Drake May has yet to beat a 500 or above team.

Wait, no. That was a Sunday night game.

Was it? I thought it was Monday. It was Sunday.

It was a Sunday night game.

All right, I'll have to think of a different way to.

We need. You know what? We need the bills to go under 500. Yeah.

Yeah. That's what I gotta do.

The bills go under 500. Then you could just keep going with that. I. Do you think it's a little early to be taking victory laps on. Especially the Bucks and the Eagles?

No.

He has asked you to do.

It's.

No, but it was more like you guys did laugh. Like you guys were.

Yeah, yeah, it was ridiculous.

Definitely laugh.

And. And now I think it's. It's. You know, the odds are a lot better.

Yeah, for sure. What? Memes. Turn on your mic.

You see? You said it. Week one, you said it.

Yeah, you did.

Yeah.

Yeah, you did. That's true. Memes. Good point.

You should have doubled down.

Yeah. Week one, you were like, oh, yeah, we suck. I was wrong.

We lost. I didn't say we suck, but I said we might not be. I said might.

We'll have to run that back.

We're gonna have to find.

Yeah, we're gonna find that right now.

Find that right now.

Hank's not not drawing from any library of truth. He's just saying what makes them sound best.

Yeah, listen, I. I'm excited about this team. We're good.

He has Whitney and Gaz just gas. Gassing him up.

Yeah. Dave text.

Fired up.

Dave did not.

We're back.

Just getting them fired up.

Fight. Say, hold on to your heirlooms.

He's getting fired up.

Enjoy your heirloom.

The last thing we need is. Is Patriots fans to win another Super.

Super Bowl. I'll be honest that we. Are you thinking Soupy?

I can't do that.

Yeah.

Wait a second. Are you thinking soupy? Why not right now?

Why not?

Okay.

Why not? We've proven we can beat the Bills. I mean, the Chiefs, like going into. Going into Arrowhead and beating the Chiefs to make the super bowl would be.

Memes already has found this clip by the way of Hank.

Oh, great. Let's play it.

Be the.

It would be great job memes.

I feel like I might have, you know, got a little too ahead of myself and might have this Patriots team is. Is just not gonna be it's not gonna be there this year.

Might have not gonna be here this year. So we were just listening to you.

I said my. When I said there I went the super bowl and I said and we might not be, but that could have been wrong.

So really Whitney's laughing at you.

Let's listen to the rest of the clip.

Yeah, probably not.

I saw There was still 10 seconds left. I thought maybe he was gonna continue.

Yeah, I mean it was the Raiders week one that. I don't know how. How else he would have reacted to that. But I was wrong for able turned the ship around. Players would die for him.

Was very like the. The. The locker room videos. This one meant a lot to him. Oh yeah.

And he's, you know, just greeting everyone outside the locker room after they win. It's, it's. It's just a good time to be a New England Patriots fan. It was, it was again. I know it's a long rebuild, but. But we're back.

Turn the ship around like a lighthouse.

Drake May does look insane. Like you just got to keep him not concussed. Yeah, he probably was concussed.

He said he was all right.

He said.

He said he was fine.

Is there.

Well he has to now. Yeah, he came back in the game.

Is there any concern that like.

No, I was actually really like a.

Young quarterback like that. These running guys, you know, they might get hurt. Doesn't that keep you up at night?

I feel like he's a passing guy.

I mean 62 yards rushing today. Eight and attempts. I mean this guy, he's going to be subjecting his body to a lot of hits.

But he's.

He's proven himself as a passer.

I think that you got to be. You got to be careful with a guy.

Like there's passerating the last.

Like I want a guy that stands in the pocket.

Are unbelievable. Best abilities available.

I don't, I don't want these new fangled guys that just take off and. And try to put people in an N1 mixtape. I want a guy that will stand strong in the pocket.

You know, you can actually, it's actually you can get hurt in the pocket too.

Yeah, but no, when you're running like that subject, you're open up that throwing shoulder, legs, head.

But yeah, the.

You can get injured ribs.

You could get injured anywhere. In the pocket. Out of the pocket. Yeah.

I'm just saying something to think about. Yeah. I, I get nervous when I watch Drake May run.

Well, congrats, Hank. You guys. Drake me looks awesome.

Thank you.

And you, I guess. Yeah. The Bucks is the next. I mean, would you say it's. Would you. We. Are you going to be reassessing if you lose to the Browns or foul Falcons?

No, Falcons are solid team.

They didn't look like one tonight.

Listen, it's the NFL. You can lose games and still. Still be right the ship.

Yeah, that's true.

That's true.

Okay, well, here's a team that can't write the ship. Chiefs 31, Raiders 0. The Raiders are so bad. That was one of the worst games I think that's ever been played. The Raiders. Just to put it into perspective here, The Chiefs had 434 yards. The Raiders had 95. The Chiefs ran 77 plays, the Raiders ran 30. 30 is an important number because the Chiefs had 30 first downs. The Raiders had three. Three first downs. The Chiefs had 21 first downs in the first half. That was as big of a beat down as you could possibly have. The Raiders are just dog and fun fact. That was actually Andy Reid's first Regular season shutout. 427 career games coached.

That is crazy.

Isn't that nuts?

Yeah. So The Raiders had 25 yards rushing. They had 70 yards passing on the day, 3.2 yards per play. And it. Those numbers don't even sound as bad as the game was. And the only person that this snuck up on was Pete Carroll.

Yeah.

Because Pete Carroll said after the game, this was a game I didn't see coming. I think he's the only man in America who was surprised that the Chiefs are really good and the Raiders kind of stink now.

Yeah.

And we did see the inevitable benching of Geno for Kenny Pickett in this game.

Yep.

And then Kenny Pickett stepped in and I think immediately fumbled the snap. Yeah, Very first one.

Gino went 33 plus game minutes between completions. Yeah, he had a completion with like three minutes left in the first quarter and his next one was with two minutes left in the third quarter.

Yeah, it was bad.

It was quite a long time that he went without a completion.

The Chiefs had the play of the week, though.

The Mahomes.

The Mahomes. Yeah, he was. He was lining up.

Yep.

It was fourth and what, two. Fourth and three.

It was. I think it was close than that. It was like fourth and one. Yeah.

So Mahomes gets under center and then he does the fake hard count to try to get them to jump off. The Raiders don't jump off. And then Mahomes, the mic caught him going. This never. This never Works. Actually, let me rephrase that. This never works, man.

Yeah.

And then it went back under center and they did snap the ball and got a first down easily.

And it made Tony Romo very uncomfortable to hear those swear words.

It did.

Yeah. He's like, oh, man. He said some choice language, but you can never. I mean, that was awesome. They probably shouldn't have wasted against the Raiders. Yeah.

But they'll do it again, and it'll work again.

Yeah.

And they were just putting that on tape so the refs know to look out for it and so they'll call it correctly with the next time the Chiefs try to do it.

The Chiefs are. I mean, Rasheed Rice was back. He scored two touchdowns in the first half. They just like, this was over so fast. The Chiefs are so good. We said it a couple weeks ago. They're winning the Super Bowl. At least getting to the Super Bowl. I stand by that. They have. They had eight guys with a catch, six guys over 30 yards receiving. Can I tell you guys? Parlay. I'm thinking about doing that is a dark, dark thing to do. But it's also like, hey, if it's going to happen, we might as well make money for it.

Dodgers?

No.

Chiefs.

No. Dodgers are like minus 10 million to win the Duke World Series. No. Can you pull it up on DraftKings right now, Max? Ohio State to win the national championship and the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl. I think it's like 20 to 1.

I mean, it seems.

It feels. It just feels like something that you should just. Just do and forget about it. Like, don't even think about it. Just be like, you know, late January comes around and Ohio State will have won the national title and the Chiefs will be in the AFC Championship game. And then you can figure out and you can be like, all right, I'll. I'll hedge now.

Why don't you add Scotty Scheffler Masters in there?

Just throw it in there.

It's 20 to 1.

20 to 1. I mean, seems like a save. I. The Chiefs are just really good, and they have everyone back now, and they're going to be really good. And their defense is awesome. And. Yeah, I don't. I mean, they're. What are they, four and three now, and they're. They're the. The favorites to win the Super Bowl. Like, that just tells you what people think of the Chiefs.

Yeah, I kind of like the nothing ever changes parlay, though. That's good. Like, add the Panthers in there for. For NHL.

Yeah. Because it's Just like, if it happens, sports fans will be upset. Yeah, rightfully so. But will have won money.

Yeah.

It's not a terrible idea, right? No, I like it.

I actually like it a lot.

Yeah. So that's, That's. The Panther's a little juicy. What is that? Panthers and Scotty Scheffler.

Panthers. Scotty Scheffler, 95, Ohio State.

Throw that in.

$100 would give you 90. Would win you 95,000.

Oh, imagine how happy you'd be.

I mean, again, it's like, I don't want this to happen, but if it's going to happen, we might as well get something from it, right?

I've never seen a more obvious statement game than the Chiefs had today where it's like, Rashid Rice is back.

Yeah.

We're going to remind people that Rashid Rice is very good. And we're going to force it to him and just have him put the league on notice.

Yeah. What do you got?

So we had the Dodgers.

Dodgers next year.

Right now we'll just. We'll just throw that in there.

That'll.

That'll up it to 140,000.

Like that.

By the way, the. This is never good. When Ashton Genti after the game said, if we're being honest, it's been a losing culture around here for a long time. He's been there for like six months.

He's sick of it.

And he, He. He can sniff it out that it's a losing culture.

He got six carries today. And that's not like the Raiders game plan being dog, which it was, but that's just. They were playing for behind the entire time. But six carries, one reception, it's just. It's bad. It's really bad. And they didn't have Myers. He didn't play.

Yeah. In the end, Max Crosby went out of the game with a knee injury. I think he's going to be okay.

They said knee and back.

Gino said he's. He's pointing the thumb right at himself.

Okay. I mean, that's like thumbs up. Yeah.

You know, it's bad when your quarterback has to be like, it starts with me. Anytime that is said in any press conference, shit's going real bad.

This is a. Every spot is up for grabs week for Pete Carroll.

Yeah. Yeah. Bring in a basketball team. Bring in the aces. Yeah. Get a little competition going in the, in the practices.

You know what? They just need to have their minds blown. I think you got to bring in a magician on. Off the strip.

You think? O's.

Yeah. Bringing O's oh, it's gotta get in there. David Copperfield gotta get in the mix. Like we're gonna. We're gonna make something. We're gonna make the entire stadium disappear.

Yeah, I like that. But yeah, just a completely non competitive game in every. In every facet. Every facet. Raiders are just dog one of the Raiders gonna win another game.

Well, they got the Jaguars next. Are the Raiders on a buy now?

They must be.

Yeah. Raiders on a buy.

Jacksonville, that's a team that when they go on a buy, you forget they exist. Yeah, because I don't.

Who.

Who would you have starting in your.

Fantasy team that would be. Well, maybe Myers.

Yeah, Bowers.

But Bowers hurt. That's a. You think that. That Raiders players actually. Do they leave Vegas on a bye week or do they just get to enjoy Vegas?

Yeah, I think they probably just go to a pool. Pool party.

I think they just enjoy Vegas.

Yeah, they're gonna. They're gonna play the Jaguars, the Broncos, the Cowboys, the Browns. Brown's defense gonna fuck them up too. That's a bad team. That's a really bad team. Bummer team. All right. Another bummer team. Panthers 13, Jets 6. Memes. Well, Panthers aren't a bummer. Panthers are above.500 for the first time since 2019. Don't look up how the rest of that season went. They were also 4 and 3 in 2019. Than at 5 and 11, but they're above.500. The Meow Mix curse is as real as real could be. Since the Meow Mix boys retired their podcast, the Panthers are 3, 0. They won a game on the road. Bryce Young did get hurt, which sucks. But their defense was all over the place today.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Credit to them. And, and Bryce, when he got pulled, he was. He wasn't like terrible today. He was. It was the best that we've seen Bryce Young on the road maybe ever because Bryce Young, I think was 1 in 15 on the road going into today.

They. They shouldn't. I like, I know that you can't lose a job because of injury, but Chubb Hubbard, like, it's Rico Doudnall's job.

This is Rico.

Yeah, it was. They tried to split the carries and it wasn't even close. How. Who was more effective?

Yeah, you got Rico. Rico is the future of that team. I have a lot of things that I want to say about the other side of the football.

Okay.

No, let me. Let's just stick with the Panthers for a second.

Yeah.

Andy Dalton.

Yep.

Andy Dalton still out there.

Good to see him.

We got Andy Dalton and Joe Flacco the same weekend.

Good to see you.

We're not old.

Nope.

All our favorites are still in the league, which I enjoyed. Xavier Leggette had a nice, like, scramble drill touchdown catch.

Yep.

He's got a hilarious accent. I love rooting for that guy. I'm running out of stuff to say as I delay talking about the jets because I feel like memes might kill us.

Memes are. Is this still hurting?

It's today. Still mattered. It still managed to hurt.

That sucks.

Memes. What the. Goes through Aaron Glenn's mind in the last five minutes of halves?

What are you specifically talking about?

This. I think you're talking about the punt.

I'm talking about two things that he did today. Both halves. Today. The end of the first half, he again just kind of let the clock run out. Did not even attempt to Hail Mary.

Yeah. The end of the first half, I was pissed about what he said in the media that he was going to take. He should have done the Hail Mary versus the Broncos.

Yeah.

He didn't. He said, that's on me. And then he. He just repeated the same thing this week.

He did the same thing. It's like they didn't even want to try to score at the end of the half. Is his fear. I. I don't know what. What's his fear in that situation? Like, I don't want to. I don't want to risk getting picked off and then giving up a pick six, like 105 yard pick six at the end of the half.

To be fair, that has happened with the Jets.

Okay.

Yes.

All right.

Happened against the Dolphins on day after Thanksgiving.

That is fair. Okay, I remember that.

That's fair. But he did say that he wasn't gonna do that again. That he, like, that was a mistake.

That.

Yeah, no, he said. He said that a week ago.

All right. And then at the end of the game, they were down. The jets were losing 13 to six. They had the ball with two minutes left. Now, granted, it was on, like, their own, what, 12 yard line, something like that. It was 4th and 10 and then 4th and 12. Then they punted. They punted with like two minutes left, down seven.

I didn't necessarily disagree with that one because of how bad the offense was.

Yeah. Justin Fields got benched in this game. Feels like that's done, right?

Yeah, that's done. He's. He's just a scared puppy out there.

Yeah.

Every single defense is just setting new single season records.

I've got a sad stat. A Sad stat about Justin Fields. Good guy. I like him as a person. He is now 14 and 36 as a starter and that is the worst winning percentage in NFL history for that many starts.

Now.

He surpassed Blaine Gabbard today.

He did start in an. On an intentional rebuild. Slash tank Bears season. But yeah, it's bad.

I think a lot of quarterbacks have been. Have started on rebuild.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, it's bad. It's bad. It's bad. It's about as bad as it can get.

It's actually even crazier that there was like a legitimate civil war on Bears Twitter over Justin Fields or Caleb Williams at one point.

Yeah.

Which is not. It's crazy to think about.

And then memes. The other thing I wanted to ask you about. When it comes to the jets defense, are we sure Aaron Glenn was ever good at coaching defenses?

The Lions defense last year was decimated.

That's facts.

Yeah, but okay, 20, 20, 2020, they were 32nd in the league. 2021, they were 29th in the league. 2022, they were 32nd in the League. 2023, there were 19th in the league. Progress. 2024, they were 22nd in the league.

Decimated.

Decimated though.

And the 20 and 21 were. That was still bad.

Yeah, they rebuilt. But I mean, I guess what I'm saying is that most guys that end up becoming head coaches that were defensive coordinators have like elite defensive units.

Yeah, like, that was a top five unit.

I don't know if he ever had. He never had a top 15 unit.

I'm at the point where I'm not defending him, so I agree with you there. Like, he doesn't really do much for the defensive side of the ball right now. It's all Steve Wilkes. So the stuff he's doing as a head coach is also mind boggling. Like, I just, I just don't know where the jets go at this point.

Yeah, to Rod, you could do.

You could do to Rod, but the depth of the team, like, Garrett Wilson went out, their number two wide receivers, Josh Reynolds. Then they have Tyler Johnson and Al Mazard. Like every coach we've had on this podcast, they talk about like good players. It's all about players play. And the gestures don't have that. And they're just. They have bad head coach, bad quarterback, and just bad players.

And they're just blow it up.

I don't even know how. How you blow it up.

Yeah, I think you gotta. You know what, I'm gonna say something that you don't want to do, but you're gonna have to do. You're going to have to get back on Madden and restart as coach.

I got fired from the Browns and Titans this weekend.

What? And Titans.

How?

Don't give me a chance.

How do you. One year in, one year in, how.

Do you keep getting jobs?

What are you doing that's getting you fired so quickly?

The Browns won. They just. I had Shador playing well. We went 5, 5 and 11.

Okay.

Fired Titans. I did the opposite approach. Traded all my picks, got good players, missed playoffs by one game, Fired. Oh, no, I think I'm rebuilding the Raiders next.

You got it. Yeah. You got to get the jets back.

What goes through your head when. When, when the screen. When you finish the season and then it pops up like you've been fired.

Just. Just an audible. Fuck.

That happened twice this weekend.

Twice this weekend?

What days? Is it the same day?

No, Friday. And then hit the reset Saturday. Played an entire season at like 11pm.

Wait, do you ever make it? Do you ever get fired during the season?

No, it's all. It's always at the end.

Oh, man. So at least you survived the season.

Survived one season. Yeah.

Now do you get to find out who they hire as a head coach after you?

You do.

So who. Who have you been replaced by?

It's always computer generated.

Okay.

Oh, not a real random name.

That actually hurts even more.

You know.

You know what was really weird about Aaron Glenn is after last week, the media asked him, hey, have you thought about benching Justin Fields? And he. He scolded the media for it. And he was like, you know how this league is. Why would you even ask me a question like that? No, there's enough blame to go around. I'm not putting it on this young man. He, like, got real indignant when it came to being even approached about Justin Fields. And then halfway through this game, he's like, yeah, we're gonna bet you.

Yeah, we gotta get rid of this guy.

Yeah, he's just digging his own grave, really. He scolds media, talks down to the media, and then the media just kills him after every single bonehead decision.

Yeah, it's fine to. To talk to the media, but then you have to back it up.

Back it up a little.

A little bit. Not. Yeah, not asking for the world.

The only thing I will say is the defense has played a lot better.

Yeah, that's true.

Now the offense.

That's true.

It just seems that every single week it's a different part where you just point at where it's just like, let's come together as a team, but it's.

Just try to find the jets win.

Yeah. He said Justin Fields on asked about not getting in the end zone. He said, how do I explain it? We didn't get in the end zone. There's a lot. I don't mean to be rude, but there's no explanation, to be honest with you. That's gotta suck to be asked that question. Like, what do you want him to say? We suck? Like, that's just it. I don't. And in Torod can move the ball a little bit. He just can't throw it deep. He was under throwing everyone.

He had two guys wide open.

Yeah. You just can't reach them.

There's a couple of plays that were called in that made me think. I was like, oh, the offensive coordinator actually is good. It's just we don't have the guys for.

Yeah, yeah.

The plays.

The. Yeah. You're right about the defense. They're. They're the second team in the last 10 years to allow 13 points or fewer in consecutive games and lose both games. I assume the Browns probably were the other team.

They might be up there.

Yeah.

Is Max just watching replays of the Vikings failing to stop the push Push.

That's just the for you page.

They did go sideways on that. We forgot to mention that.

Yeah, that was funny.

Shout out.

Also, I love that people on Twitter like, this isn't even a false start. People are so broken by the tush push that they're just doing slow motion.

Of this is so offensive.

So you have been watching.

This is so offensive to memes that we're talking about the jets and you're like, let's talk about the tush push.

Let's talk about all the babies.

I didn't.

Out there complaining that we didn't get a twitch push in a game we won.

The guy. The guy is literally said, I was hoping that memes was going to answer the question of did this hurt with. No, nothing can hurt me anymore because you got to get to that numb part. We've all been in bad season seasons where you just like, I'm numb. I'm apathetic. Who cares? You're still not there.

No. It keeps getting lower. I don't know how it keeps getting lower.

What would rock bottom be?

I don't know.

Yeah.

Are we not. We're not at rock bottom yet.

We find new ways every week.

Yeah. This one felt especially because it was like if the Panthers had killed you, like, all right, we're just really, really bad. But 13 points to hold them to 13 points. You're like, oh, we could win this game. You just couldn't.

Couldn't. And the young guys on defense are playing well. The linebackers they drafted, aren't they able to stop the run?

But hasn't sauce been pretty good?

Sauce Sauce has been great. Only got thrown at twice as today.

They play the Dolphins again. They play the Browns.

Yeah.

Saints. At Saints. But you said you're Rooting for oh, and 17.

It's. It's just. It's a tough process when you're rooting for 0.

17 memes. You know what I mean? You got a circle November 13th. You got a circle December 28th.

November 13th is going to be. I think we. We're streaming that in. In the PMT studio.

Hank versus memes.

So mean.

I mean, imagine memes. If you guys win two games all year and you beat the Patriots twice, I think you'll be a happy guy.

Oh, yeah.

One.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

One time.

Yeah.

It's got to be the first time, though.

No.

Doesn't matter.

No, because then you can hold that over him for a while. If he beats you the first time, then you win the second one. He can be like.

But if you won the second one, you can hold it over him all year.

Yeah, but the second one is.

You did that. You literally did that to the Packers.

Yeah, but. But the second one, though. That's true. But the second one is when the Patriots might not be playing anyone. You literally did that to the packers were playing people.

But if you beat him in primetime memes with the whole world watching, you got to go all in for November 13th. Get rest, guys up.

We're just going to get embarrassed again. I know what you're saying. You're trying to. It's just there's.

I'm trying to pump.

I'm envisioning how that's going to go, and it's.

Yeah. Hank's smiling right now. His head is spinning. He's doing a dance. He's doing a tick tock dance right now. You can't see him. Oh, geez. All right, well, memes. I. Yeah, I was hoping your answer. Do you think maybe next week we can get to a point where it's like, it doesn't hurt anymore? That's where you need to go. You need to get to a point where you just turn it off.

They play the Bengals next week.

Yeah.

Bengals defense is horrible.

Yeah.

It doesn't matter. That does not mean I'm Just trying to help you.

It could get low revenge game.

I'm just trying to get lower. I'm trying to help you out. You can't. You can't be thinking that way.

What, negatively?

No. Like the Bengals defense.

Positive.

Yeah. You're like. You just thought you're getting hurt.

You thought like Bengals defense. Not very good. Maybe we'll score some points still. You gotta stop.

You should be able to move the ball.

You gotta stop.

Yeah. Yeah.

You gotta get. You gotta get two defensive touchdowns. They gotta miss an extra point. They gotta miss a field goal.

Being able to throw a forward pass is too positive.

Yeah. Yeah. Yes. No.

You think you can. You think you win the game?

There's. So here's the thing. Aaron Glenn comes for parcels. Parcels. Thing is, there's always a path to victory. You got to figure out the path to victory. Throw forward pass.

Throw.

Yeah. He had 10 completions today.

Yeah.

It's just like I said, the. The deep ones.

I want Jameis. Well, yes, I've wanted Jameis.

Yeah, I agree.

If you're gonna suck sucking style, do it.

I agree.

Jameis would win you a game. 100%.

Yeah.

James would have won this game today. I did.

Like the.

The Panthers are like, they're four and three and they're, they're positive momentum. But their Twitter accounts posting like it was a loss. Did you see that? It's just Panthers 13, comma, Jets 6. Yeah, they're. They're just kind of like, hey, we're not going to get ahead of ourselves.

I like that. Good for them.

Four and three. Smart.

Enjoy. This is, this is an all time week of just staring at your record for Panthers fans.

Yeah.

Four and three, baby.

And then who do the Panthers play?

They got the Bills. Oh, next. Okay. And then Bills off a buy, then at the Packers. But then you got the Saints.

Okay. Okay.

And as far as I'm any divisional game, I could. I could see the Panthers being competitive.

They're at home against the Bills, though.

Yeah. They don't lose.

They play well at home.

Yeah. Yeah.

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Okay, afternoon games. Hold on, let me take a swig of water. Shout out body armor. Colts 38, Chargers 24 Holy, the Colts are awesome. I got this game wrong. Colts fans reminded me of that. I was just merely. I think I even said on Friday, I'm not selling on the Colts. I'm just trying to find a spot where I can sell on them. Yeah, but that's neither here nor there. If you bet against a team, people get upset. I was very wrong. The Colts offense is. I mean, they're perfect. I don't really know what else to say. Like Daniel Jones is playing perfect football. Alec Pierce, Michael Pittman, Tyler Warren. Oh, and then let's just throw Jonathan Taylor right down your throat with a three touchdown game, his third of the season. He has more than the entire NFL combined in terms of three touchdown rushing games. They're perfect. Like they their offense is electric. They put the Chargers in an immediate hole. The Chargers started slow. They turned over Justin Herbert twice in the first half, and that was it. Like, they just controlled the game. They scored six out of the first seven possessions.

The Colts are not going anywhere. They are as legit. As legit as could be. And Daniel Jones, if you're waiting for him to just suck, he just doesn't.

And he's now made $600,000 in bonuses because he's won six games. Yeah. Shout out to Daniel Jones. He's surgical. Like when Alec Pierce is sprinting downfield. He's one of the best deep threat targets in the entire league. He's always open. Daniel Jones finds a way to get the ball to him.

Yep.

They've just got, like, so many ways that they can hurt you.

You.

If it's Jonathan Taylor, who might be the best running back in the NFL.

Yeah.

Still, they've got a great deep threat in Alec Pierce. They've got Tyler Warren that does everything. Not just catch the ball. He runs the ball, he blocks. They've got Michael Pittman underneath, and they've got Daniel Jones, who, if nothing's open, he can run and he'll get you first down. And they've got. They've also got Jim Mercy on their side. Yeah. This feels like just. You can stop looking for faults and the Colts, you can stop being like, oh, look at the jersey. Look at the logo. They stink. They've stunk for a while. They are going to be a very good. They are a good football team, and they're going to stick around for a while.

They. It clicked for me today when it used to be when Daniel Jones would escape the pocket and look downfield, you'd be like, oh, this is a problem. Now I'm. I'm just expecting him to complete a huge pass down field, field. And that's like the. The. The way I see him now is completely different than what I used to see out of him. And now I'm expecting good things to happen when Daniel Jones has to escape the pocket and throw deep.

There's certain quarterbacks where the ball leaves their hand and you're like, oh, and.

Daniel Jones was that guys.

And now you're like, this is about to be awesome.

Correct.

It's very rare that you'll see a guy make that change where he becomes a. Oh, I'm excited to see where this ball goes as opposed to. Oh, no, here comes something. Just heartbreaking.

Yeah.

And Justin Herbert finds himself on the other side of that equation more and more recently, especially if he's, like, in the red zone, thrown into the end. You Just. You think that something bad might happen.

It's.

I still, I'm not, I'm not selling stock on Justin Herbert. I think he's a very good quarterback, but he, he also gives just enough red meat to all the haters to be like, yes, I claim victory after this performance by Justin Herbert.

The red zone interception today, when it was in the first half and it was like, okay, the Chargers can answer. That was a bad one. Shout out. Ronde Gadson, though, what a game from him. Seven catches, 164 yards. But they can't, they can't block for Justin Herbert and the chart. The Colts defense, by the way, played really well today. They're banged up, you know, Char Davious Ward has to go on the ir, so he's gonna be out for a few, few weeks. I think they got Kenny Moore back, which is big in their secondary, but they've, they've been shuffling guys in and out and they've been able to find ways to make big plays and turn the ball over. And like, that offense is just humming to a point where they can play with a lead and they have Jonathan Taylor and when they play from the lead, they're just, they're going to squash you. But yeah, Justin Herbert, the first three games were awesome, and then it's gotten a little bit worse. And he actually, the craziest part is he had a career high in yards today.

Yeah, he. How many did he have?

421.

That's crazy. Yeah, so he, he played well at times, but every time he plays well, he does something that makes everybody be like, oh, this guy sucks.

Now, Max, you are a Justin Herbert non believer.

I wouldn't say that.

You kind of were saying, I think you were saying in the cave, you're like this guy. Whoever says he's good.

I just think that Justin Herbert is the biggest, like, what if, what if, what if quarterback of all time. And I'm sick of hearing the what if when this guy like just shows time and time again that he, he, he's just like a big stupid pick guy.

He throws.

It's like that on a go card. He's a big stupid pick guy. You're right.

Yeah, it's probably the biggest.

But it's like every year it's like, Justin Herbert is so fucking good. If only he had this. If only he had this. If only he had this. And it's like at some point you, you, you just got to be good.

You know what I think it is? I think that every team, every bad Team looks at Justin Herbert and they think to themselves, like, I would kill for this guy.

Oh, I would kill for him.

Yeah. And every team that's got like a very good quarterback looks at him and they're like, what's wrong with this guy in his picks.

I remember when the, when there was like, I think it was a made up rumor, but it was like, the Bears trade the number one pick for Justin Herbert. I was like, yes, like, no offense to Caleb or whoever the Bears are gonna pick, but Justin Herbert. So I was definitely in that camp.

Yeah.

But he is a big, stupid pick guy.

He's got cut down on the stupid picks.

We have some pretty heartbreaking news that I came across our guy Shane Ring guy Shane. He used the hashtag. Hashtag. Pretty close to not being bolted up anymore. Oh, no, that's brutal.

So loose, loose bolts.

He's. He's in a bad spot, I think. Yeah. I mean, they just gotta find a way to like, their offensive line is just getting smashed.

It was also frustrating at the end of this game because it felt like they, they didn't have any urgency whatsoever when they had the ball.

Oh, it's crazy.

How long was that drive that they went on when they were down by 14?

Like nine minutes.

It was like a nine minute drive that got to the 35 yard line.

Yeah, it was bad. But the Colts are good.

Colts are good.

Colts are the best team in the, in the AFC right now. They might be the best team in the NFL in terms of just like, we'll see what happens with. If the Bucks lose, they'll have the best record in the NFL. So you, if you want to go by records, but I also want to go by just what I'm watching in the Colts are really fucking good.

What do you think the, what do you think Daniel Jones has to do for him to get, like a lot of respect across the league?

It's happened for me, like I said, it clicked in my head today where I am no longer saying, oh, no, here comes Daniel Jones. Jones. And I'm saying, oh, Daniel Jones about to just do something sick because he's.

Just so quietly good. Yeah, he's like Ben Affleck in the account if there weren't any guns.

And I thought this was. I thought this was the game that they were gonna. That the Chargers were gonna catch him. And I was way wrong. Way wrong. Yeah, I did nail the brown scheme.

These uniforms. Oh, my God, Chargers uniforms. It was too much yellow. It was entirely too much yellow.

On my screen, the most unserious uniforms you could possibly have.

Yeah. At least when the Jaguars did it, they added that, like, little bit of mustard, like, spicy brown to it, so it looked like baby poop.

Yep.

This just. They just were wearing piss and they.

They're getting clowned by the Colts afterwards, rightfully so. I think they. They had a tweet, basically comparing themselves to the Minions. I don't know if the Chargers have watched the Minions. Like, that's like. Those guys do luck into a lot of awesome situations.

I'd like to hear.

They're also really dumb.

I'd like to hear Harbor's thoughts on the Minions. He could probably dive deeper into that than we could. He.

Harbaugh had a testy press conference where he was just doing avoidance on everything. Their defense got gashed today. I think Derwin James just said that. Like, we just got 40 pieced at home and it was. It wasn't close. Zach, are you a big Minions guy?

I got nothing but respect for the Minions.

Yeah. You like Kevin? I'm in all things Minion. Yeah, I like the Minions too. They're funny.

They're fun.

Yeah.

Yeah, they're very funny, but they're not an NFL team. No. In a Maine gets smoked on the field. Yeah.

Bad.

Although they would, you know, they would, like, luck into a touchdown somehow. Oh, like the.

The flea flickers are hitting.

The hail Marys are hidden for the Minions. Yeah, but, like, the third and ones aren't hidden for the Minions. The. The opponent's dropping the ball at the gold line against the Minions, and then they're like, oh, we'll pick this up and run it the other way. Oh, we scored a touchdown. We won. We're the Minions. That. That. You could see that happen. It would go, yeah, yeah, you can. Minions. Am I the memes? What are you gonna say? Are you Minions guy?

Minions are a great team.

Yeah. No, they are. That's what I'm saying.

Like, they'd win this game. They wouldn't throw it back. Breaking interceptions.

Like, they would luck into it.

The Minions would not play smash mouth football. The Minions don't run the ball.

They accidentally.

They're weak. They're weak. Yeah.

Accidentally.

They're not. They're weak against the run.

They could accidentally do anything.

They probably run the most Gadget plays. They're probably very good at gadget plays.

But not actually doing. They would just happen by. I mean, I'm a big Minions guy, but yeah, they would accidentally win this game. I think that's fair to say.

They would never do do that.

Yeah. Jim Harbaugh was not. Yeah, he was. He was avoiding every question and. And did not seem like he was in a good mood. Maybe there's. There's a chance Jim Harbaugh maybe loves Justin Herbert too much. Where he's not gonna do what Max just said and say like, hey, you're a big stupid pick guy. Like, let's face the facts. Maybe that he needs to say that to him.

I think there's a decent chance that. That Jim Harbaugh was running scout team quarterback as the Colts quarterback this week. Getting ready for it because I used to play for him. Let me just put the helmet on there. I'll do a better job than anybody.

Yeah.

For the record, I also know no stats on Justin Herbert's picks.

No, I could be wrong. It's a good stat.

The vibes are big, stupid pick guys.

Big, stupid, big guy. Yeah. Jonathan Taylor has three games now with three rushing touchdowns. He has 11 on the season games with three plus rushing touchdowns. 3. The jets games with three touchdowns. 2. Well, you look at. I'm sorry, I didn't mean it to be. But that's a stat. Like, that's just show. It's more of Jonathan Taylor. So good. He's so good. And he does a thing where it. He does the touchdowns. It's kind of like Saquon last year where you're like on the 24. You're on the opponent's 24, you're about to be in the red zone. You're like, all right, here we go. This is where it gets tight. He's like, you know what? I'll just do it right now.

In one play, he also had, I think the coolest touchdown celebration of the week when he got in the end zone. Just started skipping. Yeah, that was pretty cool.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we'll see what happens with. I feel bad for Shane when he. When he's not ready to get bolted up. Oh, memes. You don't like that. You don't think I should be feel bad for Shane. No.

He's almost not bolted up a winning record. Yeah. Franchise quarterback nut up. You lost to a good team.

Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. I think it's more that they started 30 and they have looked bad since.

Injuries happen to everybody. Nut up.

So we gotta stop building up and we gotta start nutting up.

Meme just keep saying back here, it's like, you guys wouldn't last a second in my shoes.

It's probably true.

BFT's moping around about his quarterback being injured. But like you're still. You have a franchise quarterback. We'll get to that.

Thanks, man.

Yeah, we'll get to that game. Makes me feel good to that game.

Hank, you can shut the up right now with that sigh.

Pft. I think, I think pft long excited for that. Like two. Two words said for. For four hours this afternoon.

Yeah, it was bad.

All right, we'll get. We'll get to that.

I. I looked up this afternoon and there were. We were 10 minutes into Sunday Night Football and I had no idea the game was on because I was just sitting here staring at my computer. Yeah, I'm usually locked on with my Sunday schedule and I just. I went to a K hole.

Yeah. All right, next game. Packers 27, Cardinals 23. The packers have won a game on the road. They looked not great doing so they were. They. It basically was. The packers offense is. I don't know what it is. It's kind of still a work in progress where it looks clunky at times. The packers defense arrived today. Micah Parsons had three sacks. Rashawn Gary had the big strip sack in the third quarter. That's what got them back in this game. Also Credit to Matt LaFleur. Big balls of the floor. I don't know if you saw the, the, the sequence where it was fourth and two at the Arizona 29 with 230 left and they were down three lineup to kick a field goal, call a timeout, which was their second timeout. So they basically were like, this is it. We're burning the boats. If you don't, if you don't get this fourth down. Yep. You now only have one timeout left.

You.

You. The game is over. Draws up the perfect play to Tucker Kraft. Goes in, goes. Gets a fourth down, scores a touchdown, wins a game. That was a. A big balls move by Matt lafor.

Yeah, it was. It was like, you're going to have to sit in this if this one play doesn't work. And. And on the Cardinals side, they've now lost five games by a total of 14 points their last five games.

Pretty crazy. I think it might be 13 points.

Lost by one point, lost by three points, lost by one point, lost by four points, lost by four points.

That's. That's 13.

So we got four. 411-1313. Yeah, that's 13 points, 13 points.

And they also, every single of their last five games have come down to the last play. Three of them field goals kicked against them. Two of them hail Mary's. It did not work in the end zone.

And they've been winning or tied in all five of their losses with I think it's under five minutes left in the fourth quarter.

Yeah. Yeah. Not only that, they've lost three straight games after leading by seven or more points entering the fourth quarter. That's hard to do.

That was just some nice jazz. Some nice, sad Cardinals jazz.

Oh, my God.

Talking about how bad their losses have been. And this one felt like they were gonna. I actually thought they were gonna win this one.

I did, too. They're 0 and 5, by the way, since the Michael Vick jersey.

Yep. And.

Oh, and five.

Listen, Jacoby Brissette, I don't think you can watch the Cardinals now and be like, I miss Kyler Murray.

Yeah.

Kobe Brissette is just. He's better at, at running this offense than Kyler was.

Yeah, it's. I, I, I think the, the packers are. Are really good, aren't they? They just don't look as dominant. You don't think so, Max? You don't think they're really good? I mean, they're. Four.

One would. I don't know if they're really good.

I.

What, like what?

I think they're gonna.

How many.

What constitutes really good being top three.

Team in the nfc. Who, Who. Would you take over them? Let's do it real quick. Right.

I'll take you.

Would you take your Eagles?

We'll find out. We play them in a couple weeks.

I would take right now definitely the Bucks.

Definitely the Rams.

I would do. That's what I was gonna say. Bucks, Rams, then Packers would be how I'd rank the, the, the, the top of the line right this second. They killed the Lions.

Yeah, but that was week one.

It was. But until that, you know, I mean.

The, the pack and the.

And the Cowboys tie is actually not looking as bad.

No. And. But the packers lost to the Browns.

They did. They did. That was a crazy game.

And then they beat the Bengal. They beat the Bengals by nine. The car. They barely beat the car.

Yeah.

I mean, I, I don't think they've been impressive with their wins, but the.

Lions was very impressive.

The commanders, I mean, they did body. The Commanders, I think, also won all. All their games. They've won. They've won. They've scored exactly 27 points. It's kind of weird.

That is kind of weird. I think. I think that they're a very good football team with an extremely good head coach, which makes them a.

We have better wins than The Eagles have better.

I agree. Here's my fear. Here's my fear about the Packers. I think they're very good team that is like rounding into form to get even better. Do you know what I mean? Like they're going through the. The like figuring it out and they're gonna figure it out and their offense is gonna look really good at some point.

It's like, fuck, just start.

Happen. And Micah Parsons three sack game like it's gonna start happening.

They're starting to find golden too.

Yeah, they're not. They're. They're not. They're not a finished product. But they're gonna, they're gonna get there and then I'm gonna be like, God damn it, I knew it was gonna happen.

Yeah, they're. What's scary is they're a good team that's getting better.

Right? And they're not. And, and their wins are not like they're. They're not blowing teams out yet. I just. This is all fears. I'm just saying out loud. That's, that's where I'm worried.

I think they're a very good team. I'll say it. They're a very good team. Packers are a very good team.

I won't go very.

Eagles are better than Packers.

Okay. Okay. Neutral side. I need you to. I need you to feel that way.

Looking at, at the right. Like the two teams that I said that are better than the Packers. Eagles are beat.

Yep. Yeah, so what.

What am I talking about here? They lost to the Browns. The Brown. What Are the Browns better than the Giants?

No, probably not.

Probably same. Yeah, they're probably same. Yeah, they're probably same. But they, they.

The Giants killed you when our entire defense was out.

True.

Good point. Good. Good counterpoint.

Thursday night.

Thursday night doesn't count.

Yeah.

And it was. They were, they were bummed about the Phillies.

Yeah, everyone was bummed about the Phillies.

Imagine if Serie audience said that after the game.

Yeah.

Vic Bangio is a huge. He would start his Monday press conference every week of like what the Phillies magic number was to like clinch the playoffs.

All right, so maybe I'm just getting ahead of myself that I'm getting myself mentally prepared for the packers rounding uniform. I think.

I do think the packers are very good.

I think their offense is not. Their offense has not looked smooth and I think it will eventually. Once it does look smooth, then it's going to be like a. Watch out.

I think it's just like you're. You're not going to win every week in the NFL, you're going to lose some games that you should win. The packers, most of the time, they win those games and they win them.

Decided.

Yeah.

It's not. They're always going to be a good team when they have this core and They've got Matt LaFleur as their head coach. They're not going to just go out there and suck. They just never will.

Who do they play next? The tie, really.

They're at the Steelers, Panthers, Birds Sunday Night Football birds on the 10th.

That's a Monday Night Football game, Max. Sorry.

No, that's. No.

Yeah, you're gonna have to watch Monday Night Football.

That's an off day for you.

Yeah, that is an off day.

No.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah. I thought you were asking me.

No, you're gonna have to watch Monday football.

Yeah, no, I think. I think I will. I will be attending that game.

Oh, okay.

Nice.

I think I will be. Boots on the ground.

Love that.

Very cool.

Love that. Oh, that's in Lambeau because.

Yeah, it's Atlanta.

Okay. All right, next game. Cowboys 44, Commanders 22 PFT. Yep. We haven't talked.

No.

Once you were. You were sitting here in silence, which. Understandable.

Yeah.

I was. Did anyone talk to him after the game? We all avoided any conversation.

I gave him some nachos.

You did. The nachos were actually great. That was the best part of my night. Thank you, Max.

All right, so let's talk.

Yeah, I'm. I'm in a bad mental state right now. I'm feeling bad. I'm feeling like last season was a mirage and nothing ever good is going to happen to the Commanders franchise ever. Because nothing good ever has happened to them with the exception of last year, which was awesome. And I should have known that the universe will just circle back on me and that nothing good. We're never going to have a successful team ever again. We made the NFC championship game. That was very cool. I enjoyed every second of it. Now all of our players are hurt. We are starting wide receivers today. Robbie Chosen was our wide receiver one.

Not Luke, a.k.a. don't disrespect Luke. Luke.

Luke played his heart out after Luke left his guts on the field. Great job with the return game today. Robbie Chosen was our wide receiver one. We had rookie Jalen Lane. We had Chris Moore, who's journeyman. The offense sucked. It didn't look like football. Our defense was worse. Our defense couldn't stop anything today. We just won't be able to stop anything. The Cowboys just had their way with us. Jaden Daniels got hurt and for a second I thought it was. I thought it was Dunzo. I thought acl. This is what I've prepared myself for. Mentally. Every time he gets hit, I think something bad is going to happen. Something bad did happen to him. I think it's just a hamstring. I. He might be okay. I don't know how long he's going to be out. Marcus Mariota came in and give a thumbs up and he gave a thumbs up. And I. I have tickets to Arrowhead Stadium next weekend for Monday Night Football where now I guess I'm going to go watch Robbie Chosen and Marcus Mariota get their pushed in by Patrick Mahomes. Whoa.

Marcus Mario, didn't he win a playoff game in, in Arrowhead?

Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. So he's got.

There you go.

He's got experience.

Come on.

This. It was, it was bad. It was. The offense looked completely disjointed. But most importantly, here's the problem. Our defense is, is. Is bad. And we have a lot of old slow players that play out there for us. And having Jaden have so much success as a rookie quarterback that kind of got rid of the rebuilding plan that we had because you got to go all in if you have a good team. So Adam Peters is like it, let's just go all in. We'll trade away some draft picks. We'll try to get some weapons. Let's try to win right now. Let's get Lattimore at cornerback. And in reality, Jaden just covered up for a lot of bad stuff about the team last year.

Yeah.

Which I, I said going into even like the end of the season, like, I don't think that we're a very good team. We're just pretty good. And then Jaden is just able to make stuff happen on his own. We're. We're deep, deep. We should be deep in rebuild, but we're not. And that is a problem. That's going to be a problem moving forward. I think it was bad. You saw the game.

Yeah.

There's not a lot to be had. I'm starting to just think that everything that ever good happened last season is just. It was nice. I. Hey, I had the time of my life. 2024. What a magical run that was. I was so happy. I was a happy boy. And then reality set in and then Jaden started to get banged up. And then I realized same as it ever was.

Yeah.

And that's where I'm at right now.

What's the. I mean, the Jaden Injury sucks.

Yeah.

And he's. This is the second one this year where he's been banged up and it's gonna have to miss time, which sucks. Where are you at? Like, I mean, he's gotta. I guess we gotta find out what it is.

I think it's. It's a hamstring.

Okay. And just wait till he's all the way healthy. Don't risk it.

Right.

But he. He's going to want to play.

Yeah.

Right.

But.

If it's a hamstring, I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen. I'm just. I'm. This Monday night against the. Against the Chiefs is just going. It's going to be the saddest trip that I'll ever go on.

Yeah.

Like, I'm planning. I'm going to have to plan my flight, my hotel room.

Wait, you haven't bought any of that?

Well, I. I do, but I got to, you know, I got to go through the whole thing of getting ready to travel on the road, go to the airport, pay money for an Uber to take me to the airport, fly on a smallish plane, a regional plane, into Kansas City, go to a tailgate, endure people being like, hey, we're about to kick your ass today. Then sit in my seat for an hour, getting my ass kicked, and then go back probably pretty drunk to my hotel, and then go to sleep, wake up early in the morning on Tuesday, fly back, walk through the airport in Kansas City after just getting my ass kicked, land in Chicago, and then get into a cab, driving directly into the office, where I will then have to talk on part of my take.

Yeah.

About how I just got my ass kicked last night. That's. That's what I'm looking at. Right. Okay.

Whose line is it anyway?

Well, here's. Here's the. Here's a positive spin zone. Sounds like you might not have bought the flight. Just don't go.

I know. I did buy the flight.

Are you sure?

I got the flight, but. Yeah.

You got the hotel?

I got the hotel.

You sure?

Yeah.

Okay. Got.

Yeah. Yep. Got all that. I bought, like, the best seats I could possibly find because.

Shout out, game time.

Shout out, game time. I use game time. And I was like, you know what? This is going to be a torch passing game. Mahomes.

He might play. He gave a thumbs up to his mom.

He did also shout out to his mom. His mom wants people to stop saying RG3. You're manifesting that. Just stop.

His mom said that there's a difference.

There's a she tweeted I wish you would. I wish you would stop manifesting RG3 on my son. Words are powerful and that's all that's talked about.

Yep. I agree with, with Ms. Jackson.

The replies are I still feel like.

You should maybe just not have a Twitter.

It's not pretty. She's not a pretty scene.

She's in a lot of stuff.

Did you see she got to catch up with Tom Brady before the game?

I know. I didn't see that.

Oh, beautiful moment. She's in a nice, nice warm hug.

They caught up.

Yeah, that's good.

That's good that the cutouts Nice, warm.

Mike Florio said early indications are the Commanders QB Jaden Daniels injury is nothing serious. Serious.

Okay, that's good. That's good. I mean, even if he does play next week, I don't know how you can win a football game with those receivers.

How did he look before he got injured?

He actually didn't look bad. The fumble that he had when he got injured, that was, that was a bad play. He was throwing the ball pretty well. I think they had three or four drops when the Commanders also lead the league in drops now, which is not helping things.

No.

But I don't think he looked bad. He was running pretty effectively. He was pretty accurate. It was just mostly like the game started, the Cowboys scored right off the bat and we're just playing catch up.

The Cowboys offense is awesome.

It's very, very good.

CD Lamb is back. He had 110 yards in a touchdown in the, for just in the first half. Jake Ferguson is awesome. I mean, we know George Pickens, Javante Williams. They're just loaded on offense. They're a fun team to watch. How much blame do we put on Jerry o'? Connell?

I mean, a significant amount.

Obviously. He released a video if you want to play it because he did say in the fantasy preview that Jaden Daniels was going to break all the records and was going to have like a out of this world year. Can you find that Max? The video he just put out, he's, he says he's already moving off. He also like did like a Valley Girl accent just out of nowhere, but not as like a bit. I think he's, I think he's hanging out with his daughters too much.

And Kelly, and Kelly Stafford.

Yeah.

We'Re, we're, we're done with Jaden. We hope he's okay. But I want to apologize to all.

The Awls for saying in my fantasy.

Preview back at camp Barstool that Jaden was going to break all records and.

This is going to be a big season for him. It's just.

It's just not happening.

We have dart on the bench and.

The Giants are the future of the NFC East.

It's.

What time was this recorded? He gave the thumbs up to mom, to mommy there.

But.

We'Re moving on.

Pft. We're moving on. Oh, yeah.

Just broke up with you?

Well, no, he's saying that because Jaden's hurt, obviously, so he's not going to start Jaden next week, but he's going to come crawling back to Jaden the second he has a good game. I'm trying to figure out when does Terry come back? I don't know. I see. I don't know. Brown, I got paid. I don't think Noah Brown lives in the state of Virginia anymore. He hasn't been around Terry. Obviously being hurt sucks. Debo was very clearly hurt in Monday Night Football. I don't know. We just don't have anybody to throw the ball to outside of Zach Ertz.

Luke.

Luke. They didn't, they didn't look expecting. They didn't look at Luke today. And Luke was out there just fighting his dick off for you couldn't get even a sniff. It's. Yeah, mentally, I'm a puddle. I, I just melted into a puddle today when, when Jaden got hurt. Because you do go back and you flash back and you think if your team's never been good, you think, oh, nothing ever good is going to happen to us again. I, I still completely believe in Jaden long term. I don't think that the RG3 comparisons are accurate at all because Jaden, his rookie year was way better than RG3 was his rookie year. J R, G3 had like six good weeks. He was injured for a little bit. What Jaden did his rookie year, I, and what I've seen out of him, he's still a very, very good quarterback. There's a lot that's going wrong around him and also the injuries suck that he has to deal with right now. But I agree with Ms. Jackson. I stand with Ms. Jackson. Ms. Jackson, I got your back. Always.

Yeah. Max, anything as an NFC's foe, I.

Don'T, I don't have much to say. I don't like to see, see my, my friend upset.

I don't like this. I don't, I don't like the vibes. I want you guys ask me a question. I answered the question. I want you guys to be antagonistic I want. I want to get mad at somebody.

I put. I don't want hungry dogs. You're making me mad about the pity commanders. Yeah, no, clearly, that was. That was a huge mistake, but I really believed in them.

You put the cowboys in the hungry dog until the line flipped, and then the. The commanders became the favorite or the underdog. So you switched them.

Meme said he wants to get you mad.

Get me mad? Because, like, yes, I've been. I've been sad. I'd rather. I would rather be mad than sad.

It has been sad. Like, he's. He's been. I walked in here, I don't know, like six o'.

Clock.

He was just sitting by himself, just not talking.

I looked at Tankathon today.

Oh. Oh, God.

Does.

Is it.

I looked at Tankathon.

I know.

I just did.

You said you don't care about the Patriots. You only care about me. But is the fact that, you know the Jaden came before Drake May. Have you thought about that at all? Has that even crossed your mind?

The thought that I have is that a million times out of million, I would take Jaden over Drake May a million times.

Okay, good to know.

Yeah, a million times.

What about staying on the field?

Field.

It would be a positive step if he could.

Memes. Go ahead. You want to get him mad?

No, I'm just. He's just stealing my whole flow.

So get him mad. Memes is a sad guy. You got.

You got a new owner. You got a new quarterback.

Yeah, I. Listen, I love your own thing. Yeah, I. I love having mad. I love dance. Oh, here's. Here's some good. Dan Cider's yacht ran out of batteries and went adrift out in the Atlantic Ocean last week. That's awesome.

That is awesome.

Yeah, he had to get, like, towed in by a little puny tugboat. Loser. Yacht's batteries or his engine or whatever. You remember that one that gas. The one that ran into the bridge? That's what happened to Dan Snyder out in the middle of the.

Got it.

Yeah.

So that. That kicked ass. No, you're right, Memes. I have a lot to be thankful for.

I'm mad.

That's all I had.

No, but I'd rather be mad than sad. I don't.

Like.

The guys are like, oh, is he okay? I'll be okay.

Max.

You.

I'm allow above. Jalen hurts.

Yes.

All off season.

I mean, that's fine.

He should.

He's backing his own guy.

Yeah, no, I know, but you could.

I don't.

I Don't know.

I don't know. I. The commanders don't look very good right now.

They're not.

They're not good.

They don't look.

Their defense is old.

Are you worried that the, you know, the Bears season completely collapsed after they lost to the Commanders last year and that, you know, this year that might happen after the Commanders lost to the Bears?

I, too, read Twitter replies, think, oh, here we go.

Here we go.

No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not concerned about that at all. I don't think that there's a weird voodoo curse that's going on between a game between the Commanders and the Bears that happens every year.

But it is now looking.

It's one loss. We lost the Cowboys. We're probably going to lose the Chiefs.

Chiefs.

Yeah.

And then we got the Seahawks, and then you got the Lions, and then we get to go to Madrid. I might.

Yeah. Then we get.

We get the Dolphins in Madrid.

Good.

It's a very hard schedule, and our team's bad.

Did you read the Twitter supplies to Ms. Jackson since you read Twitter replies?

No, I didn't.

Out of respect.

You did.

I thought you read Twitter out of.

Respect to Ms. Jackson. I don't think that we should.

You have an intimate relationship with him, which is really weird. We can say whatever we want about your boyfriend.

He loves his mom. What can I say?

I'm reading the Twitter replies.

He.

Mr.

I read Twitter replies.

Well, you already read those.

Hmm?

You already read those.

What do you mean?

Why are you rereading them?

Well, you said you read Twitter replies. I'm just reading some to you.

I think that Ms. Jackson is a great mom who's got nothing but the best interest for her son, Jaden. And sometimes maybe people get the best of her and provoke her online.

Your son is injury prone. Tell his skinny ass. Get his weight up.

Thoughts? He's got a skinny ass like that. Actually, like, if Jaden came. If he just. You know what he needs to do? Spend the off season, just add like, 30 pounds of anything.

I also don't think he's injury prone. We're not there yet.

Yeah, we're not there yet.

We're not there yet.

We're not there yet. He broke. He broke a rib last year.

Oh, Max, you disagree. I'm looking at your face.

I mean, it's. He's. I think one can only be judged off of your.

He's got it.

Okay.

He's got a sprained knee this year, and then he pulled his hamstring Correct. Yeah, it.

Injury.

We don't know if he's gonna miss any time, though, with the hamstring. It's true.

If he misses time.

Yeah.

Injury prone. That's three injuries now in two years that have caused him to miss time. Injury prone. I mean, he can, I guess, change.

It up, but right now the narrative would be injury.

I would like. I would like to see his ass get a little thicker.

There's one way to realize how injury prone Jayden Daniels is, and that's you watching him run the football.

What do you mean?

That every time he runs the football, you're. You're just like, oh, I did.

I did that before he got hurt to be healthy.

I did.

I did that week one. Also, Dak Prescott needs to buckle his chin strap tighter. He's getting calls for face mask just because his helmet's flying off. That's on you, Dak.

Yeah, Dak, did you see RG3's tweet about this game?

I did not. That did not come across my desk.

I'll send it to you guys.

Why'd you just say it? I mean, it's a podcast.

Well, he. It was a picture, so it's. It's tough to say a picture.

I bet it's a hilarious meme.

Yeah, it's a good meme.

Does it involve a croissant? You want me to pull it up?

Yeah, pull it up. Dear football fans, this is.

Oh, wait, no, that one though. Oh, this.

He loves to do the safe space.

Oh, it's a picture of.

Of him.

Him reacting to the.

The Cowboys score.

Score.

All right, Are the Cowboys.

Wouldn't you want one of a quarterback from your old. Like, would you want him supporting the commanders?

You're golden boy. Tom Brady left your team and went down to Florida.

He would never post a meme with a shocked face. If the Patriots got blown out, wouldn't you want, like division rival?

Hypothetically, if you had like an all time legendary coach, you would hope that he did not leave and then completely forbid his new team on posting anything about your old team.

Allegedly.

Yeah. Yeah. Pft. I think everything's gonna be just fine. Jayden Daniel's gonna be fine, and Debo and Terry are gonna come back. And then you guys. You know what? Here's what I think is gonna happen. I think you guys are gonna be the team. I think you're gonna be the team that, like, maybe they'll. People will bury you in the next two weeks.

Probably three. Three.

Yeah. And then you'll be like, though, oh, Watch out, here come the commanders.

Yeah.

I mean, that could very well happen.

Right. It honestly could become a problem for America.

Right.

Like, because we've got Monday Night Football against the Chiefs. I think the Seahawks is a primetime game, too.

Yep.

The Madrid game.

Yep.

Like, there's going to be a lot.

But I see you guys being the, oh, watch out, here come the commanders kind of team, you know, like, where it's like, oh, yeah, we forgot because Jaden Daniels got hurt and they lost a couple of games.

I'd rather. We might get healthy at the right time.

Yeah. That. That type of situation.

Things were so good when we beat the Chargers just a couple weeks ago. Scored 27 points. We use the packers formula.

It is true. The whole, like, rebuild comment is. It's true that, like, Jaden Daniels was. If you can fault him with anything, he was maybe too good year one.

Yeah.

Because it's like you went all. All in on, like, an old defense. You're gonna have to just get younger on defense.

We need probably two new linebackers. We need a new safety. We need a new cornerback. We need a tight end to step up. I don't know why they don't throw the ball to Ben Sennett. We need a lot of help. There's a lot. We need another receiver. There's a lot of stuff that's going wrong right now. And, yeah, it was a. It was a bad day.

I got a question. That's not Commanders. I'm sorry. Pft. This. This day did suck for you. Pretty bad. I felt bad.

I thought it was ACL for a second. I was about to just. I was. I almost left. I almost pulled a meme. So just went home. Yeah, a little bit.

Yeah.

Collect my thoughts.

Also, you did a great job up until this point of not being sad.

I'm. I'm more angry now, which is good.

All right. Good.

Yeah.

Thank you.

I did a great job.

Yeah. There you go, Hank.

That's a good friend. I got you.

I got a question for. For the class of the Cowboys. Like, they're not bad. Their offense is very good. I don't know.

He's back.

What? CDs back. Like, they. Their defense is bad, but there's something Cowboys. I don't know. There's just something about it. It's like they're going to be in every game.

Yeah. Dak is playing as good as he ever has, and when he's got those two guys, it feels like there's not a lot that can stop him.

Yeah.

You can maybe take away CD or Pickens. I was almost right about the Pickens ejection too. Lattimore got in his face a little bit and they wanted to fight.

Yeah.

Got broken up.

Oh, I got this for. All right. For Cowboys fans, you're playing the Broncos next week. That's a gateway game right there. I gave you the Bears gateway game when it was against the Cowboys. If the Cowboys can beat the Broncos, they would then be what, four, three and one. And they have very winnable games against the Cardinals and the Raiders coming up. That could be a very quick. If they can somehow beat the Broncos next week, we could look up and the Cowboys could be 6, 3 and 1 going up. Going into a huge game against the Eagles.

Yeah, I think that this season has now become. I don't think that the Commanders are going to make the playoffs anymore. I don't see that coming close to happening, schedule and how we're playing. But I do see the possibility of the Cowboys getting good enough for the Cowboys fans to believe in themselves to then get hurt by the end of the season.

So, yeah, we're rooting for the Cowboys against the Broncos. Get the 6, 3 and 1.

Yeah.

Okay. Last game. Broncos, Broncos 33, Giants 32. That was an insane game.

What happened?

Insane game. The Broncos were dead. The Giants had them completely dead. And then The Broncos scored 33 points in the fourth quarter to win the game in the fourth quarter. NFL teams have won 1602 straight games when leading by 18 plus points in the final six minutes. The Giants blew that one. The Broncos, that was. It was insane. It was just absolutely insane. They're the first team in NFL history to score 33 points in a fourth quarter after being shut out in the first three quarters. I can't imagine the sample size is that big for that, but still, that's how crazy it was. They broke NFL history. Bo Nicks basically sucked for the first three quarters. They couldn't do anything. And then he's like, hey, wait a second, I'm Bo Nix with little assists from Jackson Dart in a terrible interception. It was an incredible. I mean, like, what a game. What an insane game.

This was a Tim Tebow game. Yeah, this was. It was a carbon copy of Tebow.

Mania, but it should have been Jackson Dart that got the Tebow Mania.

Bowmania.

It was.

It was crazy at the end. Like, it felt like the game slowed down for Bo Nex. He was running, he was scrambling effectively. He was finding open guys. It was just a completely different looking team in the last like three minutes of their offense than it was for the previous entire game.

And, and, and the Giants like they blew this game. They blew it. Like Jackson dart can't throw that pick. Also Brian Dable, you went conservative like that. That drive where he threw the pick was run up the middle. Run up the middle. And then Jackson dark get us a first down. He threw a bad pick that flipped everything. And then at the end of the game when they go down the field, they got maybe a questionable pass interference call to get on the one to score.

Two questionable.

Two questionable.

Yes.

The pass interference and the roughing the.

Pass and the roughing the passer. You're right. Yeah. Yep. And they score their kicker, who's their backup kicker? Graham Gano, I think is still hurt. Missed his second extra point of the day. So it makes it a two point game. And then they like didn't rush B Knicks at the end and Bonicks like they, I think they dropped eight. He was able to find big chunk play. They had 33 seconds left. There was some also freaky like numerology going on because they were. They did A statue for Demarius Thomas. He passed away when he was 33. They scored 33 points in the fourth quarter. They got the ball back with 33 seconds. The start of the comeback was the Broncos scoring a touchdown in a two point conversion, which is eight. Then another touchdown two point version which is 888. It's Demarius Thomas's number. So there was some cool stuff there in a crazy, crazy game. I But the Broncos are good. The Broncos got to stop fucking around because they did this with the Eagles too, where they, they were down all game and then they just woke up at the end. That feels like they're playing with fire, but who cares?

They're five and two.

Yeah. Here's the, here's the drive chart for the, for the Broncos in the first three quarters. Punt, punt, punt, punt downs, end of half. Punt, punt. That takes you to the end of the third quarter.

They couldn't do anything.

Here's the fourth quarter. Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal.

Yeah.

Crazy, crazy into this game. Credit Sean Payton. Sean Payton got a penalty called on him after that pass interference was. Yep, that was a great penalty then.

Yeah.

Because he was essentially telling the refs like, you owe me so much right now. I'm willing. Who cares if you go half the distance of the goal from the one yard line? Right.

Right now.

Nobody cares about that. Nobody even tried to, to hold Sean Payton back. That was, that was some. That they had to Fight through and overcome. But the Broncos, they just turned into different teams. So the four that. It was a Tebow. As close as you'll get to a Tim Tebow game, ironically on Demarius Thomas Day.

Yeah, it was, it was just an absolute wild scene. Yeah. Bo Nix was just. He, he remembered, oh yeah, I'm Bo Nix. I could start winning this game. He had four touchdowns in the, in the. Two passing, two running in the fourth quarter alone. 174 yards. It. I don't know what to make of the Broncos. They are a good team and. But they have stretches where it's like, what is going on? Why. Why do they look so bad and like that first three quarters looked like the London game against like if you look at the Broncos last three games, they have played like maybe two good quarters.

Yeah.

But they're three and owing them.

Yeah.

So it, it's. It's a wild team to watch week to week and be like, when are they going to turn on? When are they going to wake up their defense? I think that's really what it comes down to is their defense keeps. I know their Defense gave up 32 points today. There was that weird tipped ball to the tight end. Their defense does keep them in games so that they can have these type of games. And I. They are a good team, but they're also just playing with fire every single week.

They are. The reason why I still think the Broncos are. Are a legit team is because the two losses that they have, you could say were equally as freaky as some of the wins.

Yeah.

So they've been on the wrong. They've already had, you know, they've been on the wrong side of that same coin a couple times. Yeah.

They're playing every game this way.

They're going to keep playing close games.

Correct.

And. And hope that the defense and Sean Payton is going to be enough to. To put Bo in a position where he could do something crazy to either win or lose by narrow margin. But I think the Broncos are for real. I think they're gonna stick around.

Think about this game. The, the, the Bronco season. Besides the Bengals Monday night game, Jake Browning, when they could not move the ball and they absolutely killed the Bengals.

Yeah.

Every single game that they've played besides that game could. It was like a true coin flip. Even the Titans, week one, remember that game?

Yeah.

Like the Titans, if they didn't just completely implode, they only lost by eight. They were. The Titans were up I think at the end or they were like It's a one point game in the fourth quarter. The Broncos just play the ultimate coin flip games, and it's just which side is the coin going to flip to today?

Yeah.

So they're a fun team. Very fun team to watch. And just very chaotic.

Yeah. If you're doing the chart of, like, chaotic bad, chaotic, neutral, they're, I think, chaotic good.

Yeah. Yeah. I. I couldn't believe that game. It was nuts. Were you guys. I mean, I. I think I'm a boat bo believer, but there's also a believer.

Yeah.

He's a. There's like, you know, three. Three quarters today where he looked terrible.

Yeah.

This is why you got to work hard to believe.

It's crazy.

I am. I consider myself a believer.

Yeah. Yeah.

I. I mean, I. I'm doing Nicks on it.

I believe in the. In the Broncos, but I just. I. I'm also very scared of them, if that makes sense.

Yeah.

In, like, not. I'm scared of how good they are. I'm scared of, like, what they could do to themselves. Like, they're. You don't know if they got the gun pointed at their own head or it's someone else.

Max, were you rooting. Were you rooting for the Giants to beat the Broncos as retribution or were you rooting for the NFC east to lose?

I was rooting for the NFC east. Lose for sure.

Okay.

Yeah. Without question.

Oh, yeah.

Because the Giants beat you. Yeah. Yeah.

Have to. I don't. Yeah. The Broncos are crazy. They're. They're crazy, man.

They are crazy.

They're just like.

They're wild.

They're met, they're messy. You would say the Broncos are the messiest we got in the NFL, but they're fun. They're so fun.

They're fun.

They'll. They'll remember you crazy. And then they'll. They'll freak out about a text message and. And get in a fight with you at a bar for the entire night and ruin your entire night.

Yep. You'll leave them. And then 20 years later, you'll think back about this Broncos team and you'll smile because they rock your world.

They'll. They'll. They'll give you the best time of your life, and they'll be like, were you looking at her? What the fuck?

Yep.

And then just ruined the whole vacation.

You're never going to tell your future team that you one time, one year, had a fling with this Broncos team.

Yeah.

You're going to leave that off your body count.

You'll. You'll. You'll you'll be at a hotel getting your key card and say thank you to the woman behind the desk and they'll be like you. You wanted to hook up with her. Yeah. And that'll be it. That'll be the whole weekend we'll be gone. That's the Broncos.

They're fun.

They're so fun. Messy is all hell though. Bad drunks. Okay, let's do a couple more ads and then we got Sunday night football. Talk a little baseball and who's back and we'll get out of here.

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I don't know. He got Jimmy Garoppolo to a Super Bowl.

Okay, all right. We're just going to throw it out there. But I know it's crazy how this, this basically is a reverse where the last year the Niners had the season from hell. They got everyone injured. The season just went to shit. This year, guess what? Everyone got injured again. But they're five and two because they.

Still have Christian McCaffrey.

They have Christian McCaffrey. I think he was awesome tonight.

Were those their two first touchdowns by a running back this season or did Christian get one run?

I think he got one last week.

Yeah. Yeah. But they, it's. They're using them and they know that they're hurt. But as long as they still have that guy and Trent Williams leading the way for him, they'll be okay. Tonight was also national running back day.

Day.

Oh, did you know that?

No.

They waited until like the fourth quarter and then they said, yeah, it's national running back Day. That's extremely disrespectful to running backs to wait to announce that till the very, very end.

Yeah, I didn't know we had a national running.

It feels like, yeah, this is. Running backs have gone through enough recently with their contracts. The zoom call that they jumped on and they were like, yeah, this sucks to be running back. You could have given us like at least a couple days heads up that it was national running back aware to stay.

Yeah, yeah. I think for. So the Niners are good and like that. Mac Jones is playing well. Christian McCaffrey, they're going to get healthier. The fact they're five and two and holding this all together, it's impressive. I think I'm just on a strict. Maybe someone can remind this. I'm on a strict every other game with the Falcons. So I'm just going to. They. If they have a big win, you have to go against them the next game. When they lose, you go. You go on them the next game. Like just. I'm going to switch back and forth with the Falcons for the rest of the season.

I think that's a pretty fair thing to do. Neck. That means that next week, though, you got to be back on them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They're playing the Dolphins.

You should have been off.

And they're going to. They're going to murder the Dolphins and.

Then at the Patriots. That's a loss.

That's a loss. But then guess what? They're playing home against the Colts in a primetime game that's going to be a shock to world. While the Falcons are really good, that might be the Colts second loss of the season. Holy. Look at the Falcons.

Yeah, I could see that.

That just. Doesn't it feel like the Falcons are just destined to be that team where it's like if they have a big win, just expect them to fall flat on their face the next week because it's just not like this was not a good game for Them and Michael Penix did not look comfortable. Kyle Pitts did look good, so that's a plus. But I just. The. Until the Falcons can string a few together, I'm. I'm not going to be in the trust them category.

Yeah. The way that The Niners use McCaffrey tonight, that's exactly how the Falcons should be using bichon every single week. Just that. That was the game script right there. Just feed them a steady diet of bichon and hope that things work out. Put the ball in the hands of the guy who's the best player in the world with the ball in his hands.

Yeah. Facts. Yeah, they've won. They lost their first game, won their second game because they went. Yeah, they lost the Bucks. It was like, oh, same old Falcons, even though it was close game. Then they dominated the Vikings on national television that Sunday night game. Then they got dominated by the Panthers. Then they beat the Commanders. That was with Mariota, though. I think they had a bye week. Then they came back and won, obviously against the Bills last week. And everyone's like, I, myself included was like, I think the Falcons are for real. And then they fall in their face in prime time against the Niners.

Well, you know what? As bad as the Falcons looked at times, they were, they're not that far away even in the ugly game. No, they had two, four.

Well, the Panthers game game was bad.

Yeah. But in this game, I mean, like, they. Yeah, they had two fourth downs. They got stopped on, probably made the difference in the game. They had a terrible offensive script and game plan and you only lost by 10.

Yeah. It just felt like they never had a good flow except for. I think they had one drive. It was that drive in the third quarter when they came out. I guess that. Hank, they are the third quarter Falcons. That, that third quarter drive looked good. Every other drive just didn't look like they. It would just a lot of third longs and a lot of like, like, you know, dumb penalties that would put him back. So. Yeah, that's. I think that's my strategy for the Falcons.

Yeah. Not the worst loss that you could have had. It sucked. If you're a Falcons fan, this is one that you were like, okay, if we win this, then. Then people have to respect us. I don't. I don't think people have to respect the Falcons right now.

That was my fault.

I already respected you respect him too fast.

I, I went too fast on respecting them. Should we talk a little baseball real quick? Because Friday night, Shohei Ohtani submitted the greatest game A baseball player has ever played. I think that's, I know that we live in a day and age where people will say whatever recently happened is the greatest thing ever. And we live in a day and age where hyperbole is king. I feel very comfortable saying that shohei Otani hitting three home runs, pitching six shutout innings with 10 Ks in an elimination game was the greatest single game performance I've ever seen a baseball player play.

Yeah, I think so.

It's insane.

It's basically the plot line of that movie the Natural.

Yeah.

Where what's his name found Brendan Fraser and was like, this guy just broke baseball. Except this was real life. And Otani. You can't make an argument against that. You can't. Like, it's, he had the perfect, it's like doing two perfect games.

Yeah.

On either side of it. And it might be the best game an athlete has ever played.

I, I, Max, you're, you're a baseball guy. That was, I mean, it is, that was the best game I've ever watched.

Anyone trying to say anything otherwise is like, yeah, an idiot.

Because you could, you could point out, like, someone pitching a perfect game or someone hitting four home runs, but they didn't do both. And I obviously didn't pitch a perfect game. But he up 2 hits, 10ks in 6 innings pitched and hit 3 bombs. Absolute nukes.

Absolutely. On those balls were destroyed.

He bent those over and them. That's what he did to those.

I think it was the best game in the history of sports. It might have been, but name it. Name a different athlete. Doesn't matter what sport.

I mean, you can, I don't know.

I don't think you can.

Like I'm thinking about, like, I have a question.

Yeah, Hank? Travis Hunter. Do you take that back? Do you take that back?

Yeah. He's trying to remember what he said.

No, I know what I said. No, I know what I said. I'm trying to, I'm trying to think of.

Remind the listeners what you said.

I just said, you know, what Travis Hunter is doing might be more impressive than Shohei as of right now. That was wrong.

Yeah. I think for Travis Hunter.

Big of you to say that if.

He makes the super bowl and, you know, know, maybe gets two interceptions and two picks, you might have to revisit it.

Two interceptions and two picks.

I mean, two interceptions and two touchdowns.

I think it would have to be better than that. I think for Travis Hunter to have the football equivalent of this game, I think he would have to have.

What about a pick six.

He would have to have two. Two. Pick. Two pick sixes and three receiving touchdowns and 200 yards receiving.

There's nothing he could do.

Maybe even three picks.

Three.

Pick six is. Three receiving touchdowns.

Yeah, no. Yeah, sure is. I mean, it's. It's unbelievable what he did.

It's great. In fact, Shoehe Ohtani is. Is so good. I think it would. I think it's insulting to him if we don't ask if he's doing steroids. That's how good that game was. Like, he's so much better than everybody else on the field. At two positions there. We have to be like, this guy has to be cheating.

There's. Baseball's been played for 120 year. Whatever the fuck. 100. However far back you want to go. They've been playing it forever. There have been 12 times in the history of baseball that a player has hit three home runs in a playoff game. Shohei Ohtani also pitched six scoreless innings with 10 strikeouts. It's fucking unfathomable. He was hitting like. Like 120 going into this game, and he won NLCS MVP. And everyone was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta give it.

Because of that.

He was dog going into this game. And they were like, yeah, that was so insane.

It's. It is a. The perfect. This game.

And the Dodgers were. I think I'm gonna. I think. Well, actually, I want to say something about the Brewers. The brewers are sad sack losers, pieces of. They didn't even have a fight. They didn't fight. They had nothing. They had the lowest batting average ever in.

In.

In A series at 118. They hit lowest OPS, fewest. They had 14 hits in the whole series. How many runs did they end up scoring? They have like. Like four runs. I don't know. Higher series.

Four runs.

Four runs. Exactly. One run in every four runs. Worst four game stretch ever in brewers history, regular or postseason. Then, yeah, it's just like they broke every record. They just didn't even. They had nothing. The Dodgers just steamrolled them. And I know the Dodgers are really, really good, but still, they steamrolled.

The Dodgers also got their rotation back to a good spot. Yeah, they did. They shit pumped them. The Dodgers are just the best team.

So baseball, I'm. I'm wondering, like, I know I want to phrase this correctly because obviously I'd feel differently if. If the Cubs had lost. The Dodgers and the Cubs, I. Look, Cubs could have got lost just like the Brewers. So I know it's loser talk, because the brewers beat the Cubs. And every brewers fan could say, hey, we beat the Cubs, but that was an uncompetitive series start to finish. I think we can all agree on that. I'm, like, getting close to the point where it's like, do I. Do I need to just, like, go along for the ride and just, like, not root for the Dodgers, but respect the fuck out of their greatness?

Oh, I already do.

And not be bitter about it. I.

They don't win, I'm going to be rooting against the Dodgers. But, yes, they are that good. The crazy thing about them is with Otani, they can be dominant, but also, at the same time, be extremely fun because you get a guy doing something that has never even really been thought of before. Like, a game like this will stand for the next, like, hundred years in baseball.

Yeah. Yeah. Max, what are you going to say?

Nothing. I. Nothing. Nothing, nothing.

What?

I was just gonna say I want them to smoke. I want them to smoke whoever in the World Series just so that I can say the Phillies were the second.

Yeah.

That was a real World Series.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

People are saying that was.

Yeah.

If you.

If you only. What if they sweep the World Series and you're like, we were the only team that beat him in the playoffs and we had.

And we had a better run differential.

Oh, wow, that's huge. That's what we talk about. No, I. I like the Dodgers. I. I'm done complaining about how they've ruined baseball because they. Again, it's jealousy. Like, everyone should want an owner who's willing to pay, and they do it the right way where they pay, and they. They make guys happy and like their team. You know what I mean? Like, they pay. So what I want. I want to pay.

I'd like to see.

I'd also like to pay.

I'd like to see Ohtani do it from the right side of the plate. That's next.

Yeah.

Become a switch hitter.

That was insane.

It was the best. Best day I think, ever for any athlete in any game. Maybe just the best day anyone's ever had.

Yeah.

Dolly Parton wrote two hit songs. Jolene and I will always love you on the same day. That was a good day.

That's pretty good day.

This was better.

Yeah. I know I was a little harsh on the brewers, and I'm partially coping, but, like, if you can't even survive an entire calendar week after you eliminate the Cubs, Like, I don't. Like, you weren't even.

It.

You weren't even in the next round.

They Got too drunk.

They were gone on Friday. They eliminated the Cubs on Saturday. They were gone on Friday. That's crazy. And it was. It was nothing. It was not even a second.

And.

Yeah. Yeah.

But the Blue Jays Mariner series has been great back and forth.

Also, the brewers are gonna, like, try to like that. This is what the Brewers. You can't complain about not spending money and then have your owner like, like, like, be like, hey, we might. We might trade Freddie Peralta because we owe him $9.8 million next year, and we control him for one more year. Like, just all owners. It's. I think my brain has shifted where it's like, I'm sick of complaining about the Dodgers. We should be complaining about the Pirates owner and the Reds owner and the. And the Rockies owner and all these owners that don't want to spend a dollar. That's who should get the blame.

Yeah.

Not the Dodgers. Yeah, right.

Dodgers are. They're being smart.

Right. Like everyone else who's making money and not spending it. You're the ones who should be pointed at, not the Dodgers for spending money. Yeah. They're in a big market. Yeah. They make more money. I get that. But still, like, if you're. If you're a Pirates fan, you shouldn't be mad at the Dodgers. You should be mad at your owner. I'm mad at the Cubs. I'm mad at Tom Ricketts for not spending more money.

And guess what? All the owners that say that we're losing money and that that's why we can't spend on shit, ask them one simple question. Will you please open up your book so that we can verify that you're losing? And they. They will never do it because they're not losing money. In fact, the valuation of their teams alone.

Correct.

Is making them a shitload of money year over year.

If you're losing money, sell your team.

Yeah.

It's so simple. And they won't just sell your team.

You want to know why they'll make.

A lot of money if you sell your team.

You want to know why they're not going to sell their team?

Yeah.

Because they're making money.

They're making money.

Yeah.

Yeah. So I, I. Something where I'm just like, I'm done. I'm done complaining about it. I. We. We're doing the thing where we take too much heat off of the actual bad actors, the owners that are not spending any money, and put it on the Dodgers when it should be complete. Yes. The Dodgers are spending a lot of Money. And yes, it sucks if they win every single World Series. But the real problem is all these fucking losers that are not spending enough money and making money hand over fist. And I put Tom Ricketts in that category. So I'm in. I'm in the category of blame your owner, not the Dodgers.

You know what's crazy is for as much money as they paid Shohei with that contract wreck, he's making the money like, he's. That's a good investment.

No, I think they already made the money back.

What I said, what he did. That is. That is a awesome payoff for your huge investment that you made. Correct. Only downside to it is, like, I don't know where he can go from there.

Yeah.

Like, we probably just saw Shohei Ohtani peak.

Also, if you. If you're even having wavering about what I just said, think about this. The Angels, who are such, like, pieces of. Had Shohei and Mike Trout and they didn't make the playoffs.

And Rendon. Yeah, they paid Rendon, too.

They're. I mean, but, like, that tells you that, like, don't be mad that Dodgers are just doing it better than everyone else.

Yeah.

Yeah. The Blue Jays, Mariners, Game seven is gonna rock.

This whole series has just been back and forth, back and forth. The game on Friday night was incredible.

Yep.

The grand slam. Maybe the best moment in Mariners history.

Incredible.

I would say that that's probably number one.

Maybe the. Probably the clinching game against. Against the Yankees in the ALDS in 95 when Randy Johnson came in in the Negro Martinez.

I mean, this is.

That one was sick, though. This has to be up there to go to the alcs. But yeah, that. That was an awesome moment. I. I'm just gonna sit back and watch and enjoy the. Out of baseball.

Yeah.

Game seven. Like, it's gonna be awesome. Max, who do you have it. You're. You're.

My buddy had it.

Your buddy had a bad night.

Tough.

Tough riding.

I like that. Max, like, can't escape baseball even though the Phillies are out. He just texted us on Friday night. He's like, yeah, that was my boy who gave up that home run. Cal Raleigh loaded.

It was bad.

Yeah. And he's like, I'm getting a bunch of tweets blaming me.

Max, what'd you think about Springer standing strong in the box and taking that pitch off the knee?

Love that. That's what I'm talking about.

The. The replay of that, that was mic'd up. It sounded like a double to the gap.

Yeah.

Off of his kneecap.

Love it. By the way, I did some math because I wanted to make sure that I. That I wasn't talking out of my ass about me getting hit by pitches a lot. There's 150 abs that are. That I can access right now, like from my college career. I got hit in 6% of abs. The. The leader of all time in the MLB history. Some guy from the 1800s and he got hit in 5% of at bats.

That's pretty good.

So I, by my. I stand by my.

You're the greatest to ever do it.

Pfc, you want to ask the follow up that you asked when you told us this?

Yeah, Max, do you think that has anything to do with like the square surface area of how, like there's been.

Some big ball players out there?

Yeah, I mean, there's a. There's a reason Jose Altuve isn't leading the league. And hit by pitch.

He probably gets hit by.

Yeah, he probably does. But for the purposes of this joke, if he was your size, he would.

Get hit by a lot more.

A lot more. Yeah. You got your own gravitational occasional pull.

Hell yeah.

Some of these.

Yeah.

Once they get close to your orbit.

Yeah, yeah. Ball just gets sucked in like a planet getting absorbed by the sun.

I'm happy we're getting a game seven and you know, and again, like the, The Dodgers is sweet, but we got to see incredible moments, mostly show A and the rest of their pitching. So who do you guys have in game seven?

I gotta go with my M's.

Yeah. I think I'm rooting for the, for the Mariners. Someone pick the Blue Jays. So that way. Toronto.

Blue.

Blue Jays.

Okay. There you go. Yeah, your boy.

Yeah.

He's gonna come back.

He might not pitch again. He'll throw him back out there.

Yeah, throw him back out there.

I think Big Dumper's about to have a game. He's gonna go poo poo poo.

Big Dumper gonna go poo poo Shane Bieber on the bump. He's in that fantasy league. I should send him a trade request right before.

That'd be so funny. If he accepted it.

If he accepted it.

Actually, the funniest thing would be if he, if you sent him that before the game, he went out there and lost. And then like five minutes after the game. Accepted it.

Accepted it. I was like, I'll just do it. Yeah, I should actually send him like an insane trade request. That's good for him. So he has.

Yeah, he'll be thinking about it.

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Who's Back of the Week Are thieves.

Oh, okay.

Oh, they got the Louver.

What?

There's a heist.

There was a heist.

Dude.

What happened?

I love a good heist.

They broke into the Louver, which I would have to imagine, like, if you're.

A thief, like, that's, you know, it's number one.

Number one boring place to go rail.

I agree.

And they got a bunch of, like, what do you call them? Jewels that.

But yeah.

You can't put a price on them crown jewels. The Mona Lisa.

They did not get the Mona Lisa.

Exactly. It's overrated. But, yeah.

I mean, it's one of those things where you think, you know, with technology and. And everything just getting taken online and. And kind of like AI taking people's jobs. It's kind of like how thieves and. And like, burglaries.

Yeah.

Kind of. Kind of old. Old hat.

I. I agree.

Good to know that, like, there's still thieves that are planning heists, especially at the Louver and, like, making it happen.

Yeah. Real old school, like, throwback type.

Yeah. Like, I'm. I. I don't condone.

I condoned robbing the loo.

That's.

I got nothing but respect.

I condone heists.

Yeah.

Yeah. You've got, like, a guy in the truck that's outside. If you've got, like, a crew that you have to assemble and they've all got, like, different skills. And you. You.

Code names.

Code names. I condone that. Yes.

And, like, and. And. And a bunch of them kill each other after.

Afterwards. Yeah.

Yes. There's only one standing.

One guy's like, I thought we weren't going to do any violence.

Yeah. And then one guy shows up in a new Cadillac, says, take it back. Yeah, take it back.

No. They said, yeah. Armed with power tools, a crane lift, and a ladder.

That's Badass.

I. You know, I. I expected the Louver to have better security than that. Yeah, I think that the. I think the Louver. Really overrated.

Way overrated.

Yeah.

They got some crowns. They got Napoleon's wife's crown. They left it behind.

Oh, shit. Oh, they left it behind.

Fell out when they were running.

Ha.

That's awesome.

Oh, that. I see. I don't like that.

No, that might have been. They might have left it like.

Okay, because I don't want sloppy thieves. I like, if they were able to just bang, bang, they did in seven minutes. I'm looking it up right now.

But then you get to imagine, like, they met up at the hotel room later, they're looking at their loot, and then one guy's like, hey, where's Napoleon's wife's crown? He's like, oh, must have fallen out of the suitcase. You got sloppy.

And then. Frank, what the did you do? Okay, I'm in for this.

No, I like.

I like this a lot.

It happened at 9:30 on Sunday morning.

That's crazy.

People were watching football. Y. Yeah, I know. Football wasn't on then. Time zones. They probably had Hawaii game, maybe. Yeah.

They were experienced thieves that broke into the gallery with disk cutter.

No duh. No. Yeah.

Now where do you go if you. If you rob the Louver? Where do you go to sell that?

There's black market.

Yeah. Sicily.

Yeah, for sure.

Probably. Maybe Amsterdam.

No, some. Some billionaire is gonna buy some. Like, Russian oligarch's gonna buy that. For sure.

Listen, I wanted this collection, but I really needed Napoleon's wife's crown. Yeah, it's just incomplete. Now I've got Napoleon's facial hair.

Yeah, yeah.

It's pretty much the same thing.

Macaron said. We will recover the works and the perpetrators will be brought to justice. Everything is being done everywhere to achieve this. Yeah, right. Dude, you ain't finding them.

What if he was in a perfect crime? It was him and his wife.

I saw like a news report where I was, you know, a bunch of old people mad that they went to go see the Mona Lisa, but it was closed for the day.

Wow.

I mean, I would. I would. If I planned to go to the Louver this day and it was closed because of a heist, I would. I would tip my cap.

Yeah.

Say that rocks.

Wow. I love this.

Hank, these are back.

Yeah. You know what? If France still had it, they would just organize and get like a hundred people to go to the police station tomorrow morning and turn themselves and be like, I'm the thief. It's just we the thief. Yeah.

It would be way cooler to say that you are at the Louver the day that it got heisted.

Yeah.

Then you were just, like, randomly saw Mona Lisa. Who gives a about Mona Lisa?

Yeah. This crane is cool. I love this.

All right, we should do a heist.

Yeah.

Oh, steal the bean.

Dude, I. I think we've talked about this foot in the gym now. Now we need. We need the minions for that. Yeah, we've talked about this before, but it would be so badass. I don't think they can do it. Do this legally. But, like, they have escape rooms. Just simulate bank robberies.

Yeah.

Like, how fun would that be? Like, what are you doing Friday night? We're gonna go fake rob.

Fake robberies, though. You need muscle.

No.

No, you don't.

I like. I like. I like museum and like art. I like this type of without.

But how sick.

Robberies. Every movie in a bank robbery, then someone shoots someone by accident, and then you're.

Yeah, but you got to get in. You gotta, like, you get one battle after another. You get like fake cap guns or something or whatever. They can do paintball guns. And it's like, hey, you gotta rob this bit. How fun would that be?

That would be a blast.

Yeah, just simulate those.

The trick. You gotta have somebody on the inside if you're robbing a bank.

Yeah, you do. You always gotta have someone on the inside. They definitely had someone on the inside.

Definitely.

Okay, good. Who's back?

I love that heists. My. Who's back of the week is. Hey, Shout out Max and Memes. Podcast producers. Oh, podcast. Podcast producers are back big time this weekend. I don't know if you guys saw Pablo. Tori finds out on Friday, but he dropped a new episode. Yes, this. I mean, I know guys like Hank were saying, hey, Pablo only goes after Bill. He only goes after Jordan. But this episode just made me realize what a great producer Jordan is. It's like working overtime. She knows Adobe Photoshop, and I don't think I've ever heard Hank say, what is it? Adobe Photoshop.

Okay.

And that's. That's a word.

Not just Photoshop.

Adobe Photoshop. I'd never heard Hank talk about that before. Never heard Max talk about. Never heard Memes talk about it. But it's editing. It's editing software that you can use to make graphics. And so Jordan, when she was helping to produce the coaches podcast with Map Attrition, Bill Belichick was being very helpful saying, hey, this font could be better. It should be leathery. It should look like football. Maybe we can do this so it's animated and then we'll be able to reuse it. And it was just really a master class in Jordan being Jordan and helping her. Helping her boy out. Really being a five tool girlfriend.

She's a girl boss. And Pablo's coming off as a little misogynistic.

Oh. For not thinking that Jordan would know what Adobe.

Yeah, I mean, like, how is that the big news? Yeah, of course she knows Adobe Photoshop.

It was very funny.

She could screen. She screenshot, clip it.

Boom.

Now you got a graphic.

It was very funny watching the. The actual producer of the podcast, like, just put his head down when she was explaining what they should be doing.

Yeah.

Kind of felt bad for that guy.

It's also very funny that, like, Pablo came on this show and explained that he does a mix of, like, the. The somewhat boring things where he's, like, looking into the clippers and what they're doing, and then these things with Jordan that get a lot of clicks and he's like, yeah, I got to do both. But every time he posted Jordan clip, everyone's like, you're just. You're such a. This bullshit podcast is bullshit. It's like he told you he's gonna do both. And I think it's pretty good podcast. Hank doesn't agree. Hank, I was actually getting mad about people getting mad at you for your reply because your reply was funny. Saying that he needs to look into the Jared Goff touchdown down.

Yeah, he does. He needs to. He needs to focus on other things, like Jericho. Yeah, like if Pablo Tori had bet Jared Goff first touchdown scorer, the NFL would be shaking in their boots. I can't do anything, but Pablo can.

Pablo can do it for Hank.

Pablo or Pablo. How about this? How about. How about you just teach Hank how to do an investigative journalism and so then Hank can look into these things on his own.

Now that's a podcast I would listen to.

Yeah, yeah.

Pablo finds out how dumb Hank is.

I think that'd be a great podcast. Mean he's like your mentor and like, whatever you want to look into. He will teach you how to submit, like a Freedom of Information act request.

I like Pablo. That would be. That would be fun.

That would be fun. We should do that. Hank goes to school.

We do need a capital J journalist on this podcast.

Oh, Hank's thinking, no, I like.

No, I like Pablo.

What are you gonna say, Pablo?

But I like. I like Paula, but no, I like him.

Are you, Hank?

Are you afraid that if he teaches you how to dig too deep into stuff, you're gonna uncover some things that you don't want to know.

No, absolutely not.

No, no, no.

Yeah, No, I. I do. Like, if you're underdog, like, what. Who's leaking that? That's a problem. Huge problem. Huge, huge problem.

It was probably. It was probably the guy in that clip.

You can't have that. You can't have the clips just getting leaked out. Hot mic clips.

Yeah. I think you know who comes out looking.

What, now you got a new show?

No, no, no, no.

You're gonna send some stuff to Pablo?

God, no.

Oh, I thought that there's one person that came out of this looking great.

Jordan.

Patricia.

Yeah. Jordan and Patricia.

Yeah.

Yeah. Patricia. I didn't know that he had that type of patience.

He just sat there and was just like, I'm just gonna deal with this. My. My boy's getting some primo. I just gotta chill out. Just take it. We've all. We've all been in that spot. Like, look, he's happy.

You gotta smile him.

Now.

I'm happy. I'm not gonna break him up. Up. What are you gonna do? It's first time getting some primo. What are you gonna do?

It's. It's got to be driving him nuts. Bill's gotta just love it. Oh. I actually think Bill might still be extremely happy.

Yeah.

Even given the state of Carolina football right now. I think he's having the time of his life.

He probably doesn't even know that. This guy. I think probably someone said like, hey, Bill, hot mic came out. He's like, all right.

Yeah. I think he's punching that clock.

And stop me getting Primo.

Just getting his world rocked.

Any thoughts?

Patricia's happy, too. Patricia. He's. He's at Ohio State having the time of his life.

Yeah.

Patricia's is probably three.

Yeah.

This is a much, much better spot.

He's got a great job.

Mapatricia probably wakes up every day reading stories about UNC being like, dad.

That.

That was close.

Yeah.

Holy.

I'm on the best team in the country. Yeah.

And I get the best defense.

Yeah. I get to just be the defensive coordinator of a loaded roster.

Yeah.

That's sick.

Pretty good.

Yeah. All right.

My.

Who's back of the week is fired coaches. Because Billy Napier got fired. And I actually think so. He got 9.7 million right away. Within 30 days. I think his whole buyout's like, 18. Okay. I think we need to start doing this more often where if you're going to fire your coach. Let him go out with a win because he won on Saturday night. He beat Mississippi State. They still fired him. That's kind of a nice way to go out.

Yeah. If possible.

Yeah. And also we had fired coaches. James Franklin going on game day, which I. That was genius for him because he basically just had Saban carry the water for him.

Just being like, it's. It's insane and disrespectful what they do to coaches now.

Yeah. I saw some people being like, why is he doing this? Like, what do you think? Why. Why wouldn't he do this? He basically gets to go on national television and Nick Saban gets to say everything that James Franklin wants to say but won't say while James Franklin is sitting there nodding along. Yeah.

I mean, at the end of his tenure, James Franklin could be like, I was wildly successful here.

Yeah.

Then I. And then things kind of fell apart at the last second.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And we'll see who else gets fired. I don't know what Wisconsin's gonna do. We're just gonna keep getting our teeth kicked in. Did you guys see the Oregon Duck jerseys? So, so awesome.

Yep.

They're so awesome. Zach, your who's Back of the week? My who's back of the Week.

This week is going to be Mainland's.

Number one food review podcast MD Foodie Boys. Yum. Indie Foodie Boys. Parodied on snl. Yeah, it was pretty funny.

Sweet look.

Yeah. The skit itself was actually funny as well. Yeah, they. Those guys rock.

Yeah, they rock.

Good look. Sprinter Carpenter was in the skit.

I thought she was really good.

She was fantastic.

Yeah.

Did you see the performance as well in SNL or just the skits?

No, I just saw the mirror scene. Yeah, it was.

It was awesome.

Yeah.

What mirror look for that.

She was like, dancing in the mirror or something.

Yeah.

I don't know what song it was. I forget. I forget the name of the song. Didn't have the sound on. But she was great. She was a great actress.

Yeah. The MD Foodie Boys are up. Way up, Way up. Good. Who's back? Zach, you excited for the Bucks game?

Give us a prediction. I'm looking forward to the game prediction. Early prediction for the game without them playing any plays is going to be Buccaneers win in Detroit. Okay.

Lions are pretty banged up secondary wise. And Brian Branch is out for one game suspension.

One game suspension. Yep.

And Seahawks Texan should be. I actually think that game's going to be kind of a slog, but, like, not. Not that they're bad teams. I think it's just gonna be a defensive battle.

Yeah.

I'm gonna opt in the sports tomorrow.

Let's go, Max. Bonus sports. I think it's gonna be a great sports.

One of these two football games is going to be great.

And game seven.

And game seven.

Game seven. Pray for anyone who doesn't have either YouTube TV or multiple TVs out. What? What you don't have.

You still giving me that other.

That TV you said you were going to give me?

Yeah.

Tomorrow.

No, not tomorrow, but, like, one of these days.

Yeah.

You weren't asking for tomorrow, though.

He. He wants it for tomorrow.

Would have been nice.

Tomorrow would have been nice, actually.

Can you make it happen tomorrow?

Maybe.

10% chance I'll take.

That's better than zero. There's a lot of sports on tomorrow. I'll get.

I.

Whatever.

What would you say the percentage is if you had to do it?

I said 10%.

3.

There you go, Memes. There you go, Memes.

Memes gonna win it today.

Let's go, memes.

Islanders for Sharks tomorrow, too.

Great.

Great game.

Huge Sharks.

Coach said he was gonna give up his coach. He would give up his kid for a win.

I like that. Okay. That's how bad. Hate his kid.

Yeah, that was almost back. I guess I gotta go 10.

That gonna be 3. 33 or 88 today?

I'll go 4. Gonna go 15. 88. 99.

Pug. 4.

Wait, what? Someone say what? What did Jack say? Jack said four. I said four. Jack, he just. He just wants to repeat numbers. Oh, you can't hear. 32. You want to do one more?

Yeah.

Everyone say their number so that we have it on record. 22, 3. 33.

8, 44, 86. 15.

4 memes. This one I think you're going to get. I really do think it's going to be three. I think it's going to be three. I would love for you to get it right. It could be three.

Pug thinks it's gonna be 82.

Oh, this guy. How many is that, Pug?

What? That.

I think that's seven now. Dynasty.

Hey. Hey, Pug. Give us one of these, Pug.

Yeah, show it to us. You got rings everywhere, bro.

Yeah, you and Shane Ring bullet, boys.

Holy.

There we go.

That was crazy.

7. It's been a while.

It's good to be back. How long has it been? Feels like forever.

Yeah, it's been like I was on.

A hot streak, but it.

There was a big gap, for sure.

Damn, memes. Why don't you just start taking 99?

I tried that. You guys cried.

No.

You guys cried.

Yeah, we might have.

Oh, you haven't won since, oh, like, a year. That's. That.

That can't be right.

You haven't won in a year.

I feel like he's won reason recently.

No, it has been a while.

Oh, yeah?

Yeah.

Wow, Pug, you had a streak of a cold streak going. Yeah, I know. It was good for you, dude.

It's good to be back.

It's good to be back.

It's huge. Wow. Is that the longest losing streak anyone's ever had on the show?

No.

Over a year.

I don't know what was Hanks.

Oh, no, it's probably not, because Memes hasn't gotten it yet.

Again. Ah. How close is. Is he still far away from Hank? How far away is Memes from Hank?

I'm actually afraid of Memes right now.

Why?

Because there an electric. Electric podcast segment.

People love it. Come on. Do you, me, Z, or Max doesn't know how to work this?

No, not even close. If you want 99, he's not even looking. Not even close to anything relative to the question.

Trackers. Trackers. Maybe Tracker. Go up to tracker.

His headphones aren't on.

No, his headphones aren't on.

He's just.

He's lost right now.

This is you, Lander going through.

We know. We've been talking about you you the whole time. You just. You're not even close to looking at the right places.

I. You're looking gave Pug my headphones. I, I, I have no. I know that doesn't mean you.

Yeah.

Oh, but you still. We're. We're looking to see how long. How. How close is Memes to catching Hank?

Oh, yeah, it's right here. I couldn't hear you. Memeful. Ty Hank's record.

Oh, wow.

Oh, wow.

He's got a tracker for two.

Got a clock up.

Yeah, we do.

We have to get a clock.

263 days. Oh, my gosh. Okay, Memes, we got to get you this.

He'll get it.

He will get it. That's so long, Memes. Think about that, Memes. When would you get nervous?

I don't know.

Okay, 100. 100 days.

If I don't know, you'll get it.

Memes, what were you saying about. About. Was Pug bitching when you.

Oh, yeah.

No, you didn't ask.

Oh, you didn't ask permission.

What the kind of show is it?

Just stole it.

You just stole it. If you were like, can I have it?

I'm sorry I didn't ask permission for your lottery ball and has to borrow your car.

All right, we'll see everyone Wednesday.

All right. Good job, Pug. Congrats.

Congrats. Pull. Thank you, Grats.

Pug. All right.

Love you guys.

Sa.