Transcript of Rams HC Sean McVay, Jerry O’Connell With A Schefty Sneak Attack, Fyre Fest And More

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On today's part of my take, we have a tremendous twofer for the people. We have our good friend, Jerry O'Connell, on to get to the bottom of not only the Oscars, little Oscars preview, but also what's going on with our fantasy team. There also might be a special guest that joins us in the middle of the interview to ask Jerry a few questions about his strategy and fantasy. A consultant. The consultant, Consigliari, if you will. Then we have Sean McVay, Super Bowl winning head coach, Sean McVay, good friend of the program. Great talk with him. We're going to talk. We're getting closer and closer to free agency. We got guys asking for trades. We're getting closer and closer to March Madness. We'll talk a little poops, and we'll finish off the week with Firefest of the Week, as always. It's brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. Who's scoring big in the NBA this season? You are with the all new ways to get in on the action at DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NBA. Draftkings is home of NBA player props, so you can get behind your favorite players any which way, from monster slams to dishing the rock to cleaning the glass.

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Four additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dkng. Co/audio. Okay, let's go. Football guy, Fatina, A-W-N, Mardi Night's Welcome to Part of My Take, presented by DraftKings. Take it to the rack with DraftKings Sportsbook. Every point counts. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app. Use code take. That's code take for new customers to get $150 in bonus bits when you bet just five bucks only on DraftKings. The Crown is Today is Friday, March seventh, and we're getting closer and closer to NFL free agency. Boys, we've got a lot of movement. Joey Bosa cut. D. K. Metcalf wants out.

He does.

I don't know where we want to start. You know what? Let's start with Joey Bosa because we have... Meme's got his wisdom teeth pulled. So we have Shane in the booth. Joey Bosa cut. I think people expected it. The chargers are going to save $25 million, but it is the end of an era because Joey Bosa is the last charger to have played in San Diego.

That's crazy. I did not know that. Yes. So, yeah, it's over. No more San Diego chargers. But I heard rumors that he might want to go up to the Bay, play with his brother.

The Bosa brothers together Sure. It'll be interesting to where he goes because he said himself, he's like, I don't have a lot of time left because he's dealt with injuries. But he is, would you say Shane an all-time charger? Oh, He's not even turned on the mic. He's so upset about this.

Press the button, Shane. Wow. Yeah, for sure.

All-time charger.

Five-time Pro Bowl. Yeah. Three of the Year.

Did you know this was coming?

What a resume. I think his cap hit was like, Yeah, 36 million.

Oh, Hank.

Hank. Hank just goes after whoever is in that seat. Hey. He just said, What a resume. What a resume. Is there anything else to his resume that you'd like to add to impress Hank? He was Rooky of the Year, five-time Pro Bowler.

Defensive Rookey of the Year. Okay, you already said that.

Yeah, well, that's like his-Five-time Pro Bowl. A lot of injuries. I mean, it's bound to happen.

Okay, a lot of injuries.

All time.

All time. I mean, it's the Chargers, man.

We have nothing. Ring of Honor?

I mean, doubt it, but...

Okay.

I think you're dismissing the Five-Time Pro Bowl.

Five-time Pro Bowl.

Everyone makes the Pro Bowl.

I mean, it's the Chargers. It's not like we're a notable franchise in the history of the NFL.

It's true.

One Super Bowl appearance, we got blown out by 35 points.

It's true. Facts.

You're sad to see him go, obviously, but you knew it was happening. Yeah. I don't know.

Because right when I was getting into football, for the most part, I could start watching Chargers games.

It was his rookie season. It's sad to see him go, but he just hasn't been healthy, cost way too much money.

It's bound to happen. Okay. All right. It's not shocking in the fact that I think we all expected it. It's more shocking that there's just another piece that is out there right now. Will he go to a contender? Will he try to take top dollar?

I think he's at the point in his career where he wants to win something. I'd agree. He's gotten paid a shitload of money. I feel like he will probably sign somewhere for maybe less than the open market might necessarily dictate.

Maybe one of his college coaches.

Maybe Vrabel.

Do Vrabel coach him in college? Yeah. Oh, you've already connected the dots.

Have you been working on the Bosa shrug? What is that? Can you do the shrug?

He does that. Wait. There you go. That was good. Shane, sorry. You're shaking your head. No.

After all the shit, you just gave him for being an all-time charger. You want him on the Patriots?

Yeah. That's a good point.

You did. You want a five-time proler on him?

He's devalished I'm in the open market. I was smart by Hank.

No, I just think. Again, I'm spoiled with greatness. So it's like when you talk about all-time players of a franchise, five-time Pro-ball or Rooky of the Year is not exactly all-time. It's just a solid player.

This is very smart by Hank, right? Yeah.

At this point, I guess you would take him. Yeah. Then the other big news is D. K. Metcalf wants out.

He wants out. He wants to go to a contender, too, I think. And he also wants a new contract. I have a place that I would like to see D. K. Okay. Don't say the packers. I'm not going to say the packers. I personally would like to see D. K. On the Pittsburgh Steelers. Him and George- Him and George out there together.

What would the analytics It does look like if you're in the Steeler's front office, you have to basically write in a certain amount of penalty yards per game between the two of them.

Yeah, you have to have a very… It's a personality type thing. You have to be borderline personality in this order. I don't think Dike necessarily… He's not a complete psycho, but he goes up to that line because he plays with a lot of aggression. I think he's a good, mentally healthy version of George Pickens.

Yes. Do we have any idea where he might… Where's I know the packers. Everywhere. I didn't see the packers.

The Patriots have inquired about him, Hank. Would you want Dike? What's his resume? Two-time Pro Bowl? Three-time?

He's under contract now, so you'd have to trade picks.

Probably first or third, maybe a second and a third for D. K.

I would like D. K. On the Patriots for sure.

I think most teams should want him. He's a very good player. Draftkings odds-He can't turn, but he's a great player.

Yeah, DraftKings odds have him. D. K. Metcalf next team, 3-1 Seahawks, 3-1 Chargers. That would That would be interesting. That would be a great weapon for Justin Herbert. 3. 5-1 plus 3: 50 to the Patriots plus 5: 50 to the Texans and plus 700 to the Raiders. He does feel like a rater.

He feels like a rater. He looked good in the rater uniform, too. He does feel like a rater. I think he'd also look good in a Bill's uniform. I think the bill should want Dike, too. I did text Dike when the news broke, and I just said, Hey, Dike, I dare you to go to the commanders. And what did he say? You won't. And then he just didn't reply. Okay. Well, that's not a no. But now I double dog Derem. Yeah, that's not a no. That's in your Dike.

The bears made a couple of moves. Interior line, not sexy, but needed. I like it. Very much needed. Yeah, Joe Tuny, Jona Jackson, very much needed. So flexibility maybe going into the draft where they don't have to just... They can take best player available.

Fun fact about Joe Tooney. Did you know that he finished in the top 10 in offensive player of the year last year?

I did not. He also won team MVP for the Chiefs. Really? Yes.

That's going to be a chip on the shoulder for Mahomes next year.

Mm-hmm. But yeah, he's older, but this is also like the Joe Jackson is a six-rounder. You're not going to get a six-rounder that can play guard right away.

He got moved to center last year, and then he wasn't great at center. And by the time they got healthier at the guard, he lost his spot.

And O'Tune is similar. He got moved to tackle out of position. He's going to go back to guard. I'm happy that the bears are addressing the offensive line as quickly as possible so that they can have a little flexibility when it comes to draft time and free agency when it comes to-I think it's smart. Yeah. All right, what other? I saw Deshawn Watson restructure his deal again. That was actually the headline on ESPN. It said, Deshawn Watson restructures deal again. That again carries so much weight.

Yeah. It's the worst contract. Maybe in the history of sports, I think it's probably up there, right? I would say so. And he restructured again. I think it just helps them spend more money right now. They're going to end up paying him the $230 million, all of it. The Browns are going to have to pay that to him. But yeah, Deshawn Watson, good guy, team player.

Team player taking a little pay cut. Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly what's happening.

Got converted to a bonus.

What's on your mind, Hank? Payton Pritchard going off?

Payton Pritchard going off.

What was that? How many score?

He had 40. Derek White had 40. Saldix players out, it doesn't matter. They got their whole team out against the Sixers.

Didn't matter?

It's tonight. Oh, it's tonight. But it didn't matter. Oh.

By the way, last night in sports, Katie Kchuck did score for us within two minutes. He did, yeah. I took my son to the game, and I was like, That guy scored for you. He's the best. And he was just like, What? He didn't care.

Absolute beauty.

The Sixers team also was also all out, by the way.

Well, who's out?

Embiid. Well, that doesn't count. Embiid is out. Max is out. Paul George, questionable, will probably play. But let's not act like, be like, Oh, yeah, our whole team's out. We're still going to beat the Sixers, whose team is also still out.

But his team's out. Yeah, I don't know what he- Your team has been. Max, the difference is when the Celtics are all out, they're still all in.

What?

Yeah. What he said made sense.

Cooper Flag. Cooper Flag. How upset would you be if the Sixers got Cooper Flag?

I would probably murder you. That's fair. You can't get Cooper Flag because you said on this program that I'm out. I'm removing myself from Cooper Flag consideration. I did see something very mean from front of the program, Andy Staples. Andy might not be front of the program anymore. Uh-oh. He said, If I was Cooper Flag and the Wizards are the Hornets, got the number one overall pick, I'd go back to college. Then I thought about it, and he's not wrong, but it hurt for me to hear him say that. It's still an insult. It's still an insult. If I was Cooper Flag, I would play for the Wizards myself if they got the first overall pick. But in the NIL era- But you love ball. I do love ball. He can go back to Duke, make some decent money at Duke for the other season.

I would say pretty damn good money.

Then go back to the NBA draft when a team that isn't the Hornets or the Wizards has the number one overall pick. It was mean for him to put that out there. I know it's a possibility technically in the back of my head, but it's still mean for Andy to put that out there on a national sports podcast.

Also, you can't really time when bad teams will probably be the first pick for a long time. Yeah. That's why they're bad. I guess you could time it where it's like there's crazy lottery ball luck and a Sixers. Sixers. Yeah. Pops up.

If the Clippers were... They're not going to get it, but if the Clippers were to get the number one overall pick, I believe it would go to the Thunder, who then could add a Cooper flag to their roster.

That would be incredible.

Bulls would be a good one.

Big market. Yeah. I think the Bulls are going to make the playoffs. They just can't. Everyone else just keeps losing along with them. They lose, but everyone else loses. It's crazy. This is where the 10th seed in the NBA, the play-in game is so stupid. The Bulls are the 10th seed right now. They're 24 and 38. They're not a good basketball team. It works a little in the West where you have some some decent teams in that playing range. But in the East, it's like none of these teams are... The Hawks are not good. Just get rid of it.

Some breaking moos.

Oh, breaking moos.

Christian Kirk to the Texans?

The Jaguars are sending Christian Kirk to the Texans. I feel like the Texans should just get every receiver this year.

Why not? Tankdell has had another surgery, so that feels like it's going to take a while.

I think he just had the ACL. He had the maybe PCL and MCL already done.

Yeah, he had to have another. Yeah.

The second surgery just happened, and Diggs not coming back, most likely. He's a free agent, too, right? Yeah. Diggs? Yeah. They should just get every receiver. They should get Dike, get Christian Kirk, get everybody. Also today-I feel like Christian Kirk, by the way, just real quick with him, he's an all-time...

You know his name, but if he's your number one receiver, if he's part of your big plan, you're in trouble.

I think the Jaguar's move with him was to pay him like a number one receiver in hopes that he would perform like a number one receiver.

He'd be like, Oh, shit. I guess I am.

Yeah. Usually, that doesn't work.

But he's... Yeah. If you start... If Christian Kirk is the first two names that you say for your receiving CORE, it doesn't feel like it's going to go well.

You're in trouble. Yeah. I think he might have been on our fancy team last year. Yeah. We'll get to that. Also, Trey Hendrickson has been granted permission to seek a trade by the bagels.

So that might be their money issues.

He led the NFL in Sacks last year right? Yes. Doesn't wear gloves. Is a badass. I feel like there will be a lot of interest in him.

Sam Hubbard also retired. He retired.

Incredible career. Thank you for your service, Sam.

Pretty damn cool to play for one team, one Jersey guy from Cincinnati. Cincinnati lifer. Yeah. Trey Hendrickson. There's some pass rushers out there. Yeah. Khalil Mack is out there. Miles Garrett, obviously. Bosa. There's some pass rushers out there. Damn. Do you guys want to talk a little college ball real quick? Joe Lanardi took two days off this week.

That's nice. Just an updater. Hank, what do you think about that?

Took two days off.

Whatever brings your piece, man.

Bracketology. We need the Bracketology every single day. The minute there is an update in the games, we need a new bracket. This is the most recent one. Right now, he has last four in: San Diego State, Indiana, Boise State, and Xavier. Xavier has been hot. First four out: Oklahoma, North Carolina, Texas, Nebraska. Oklahoma had a big win against Mizzou. Vilanova has been dumped to the next, not even next four out, just the next.

The next four out. No, they're out. Are they first four into the NIT?

I don't care. In the long run, it's good.

Because Kyle Neptune is going to get fired?

Great guy.

Great guy. Great guy. Kyle Neptune is out? Are you first reporting Great guy.

Great guy.

Yeah, he's got to go. He's got to go? I feel bad for Providence fans. They're out on Kim English. That was quick. The interview never had a chance.

No. I'm guessing Florida, now one seed after that win?

Florida is... So right now, his one seeds are Houston, Duke, Florida, and Auburn. Then the two seeds, Michigan State, Texas Tech, Alabama, and Tennessee. Three seeds, St. John's, Wisconsin, Iowa State, and Texas A&M. Three Yeah, no, we've been in that three, two, three range. We have Penn State to finish this regular season. If we went to the Big Ten Championship game, there'd be a chance maybe to get back up to a two seed. We were a two seed for a little bit there and then lost to Michigan State. But yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited for March Madness.

12: 00.

Yeah, about that. Well, 12: 00 as of this taping, we don't know what happens tonight, so it could be really sad even talking about it. But still, Still staying on the sidelines?

I'm still staying on the sidelines. The bigger picture, and this is where I said earlier, this is going to sound mean. I'm not sure.

I'm sure this will sound mean.

You're only I'm in one game a night. I don't want to be an asshole and just-Well, I've done-well, no, I know. I did Saturday at seven. Currently.

I did two on Tuesday. Tonight is a very light board. There's only a couple powerful five conferences.

I'm not saying I'm going to do this, but in the position that I'm in or in a position that a fader might be in, thinking bigger picture, it's not about going till you lose one. It's maybe starting next week and just everything Everything.

Here's where it concerns me.

But I might not release everything.

That's fucked up.

Why? Because I'm protecting myself against guys like you. I might just release one pick. I might bet everything, but I might release one pick.

What concerns me is the fact that Big Cat doesn't doesn't have somebody that he's going against right now.

No, I am. I'm still going against him.

But he is not betting against you.

No, but again, we talked about this last show. I'm still going against the idea of Hank. Hank stands for- But I feel like you're more powerful when you have an actual enemy.

No, but I have.

I've been going against Hank this entire time.

I want you to get to 15-0 and then maybe fade you for your next 15 to 30.

It is crazy. I've never had a run like this.

Because that's where the odds are at. It's not just one game.

I've never had a run like this. Twelve in a row is insane.

It's impressive. Very impressive.

My brain is just pulsating because it's been so smart recently. Again, this might sound really stupid if the Iowa State, Michigan, or Iowa, Michigan State over doesn't.

Have you done any of your 12-0 on-Iowa basketball-picked him at Iowa Home France.

Well, Iowa basketball-picking Iowa, home of France. Well, Iowa basketball-picking Iowa, home of France. Hold on one second, PFT. I want to hear what you say, but that was crazy. That's a non-ball knower. Iowa basketball. Now, this year, they've had trouble hitting the three recently. Iowa basketball was the best over ever for the last decade. All they do is chuck. Their defense sucks. They have hit a lot of overs this year. Sorry, PFT. That was a non-ball knower check.

It's okay. He was just going with the vibes of the university.

He was just thinking of Iowa football, which Iowa football, I think was 10-3 to the over this year.

Well, that's because the over had adjusted down to 29 points a game.

But an over is an over. It hit the over. It was over. True. This is just a non-ball nowhere over here. We got a casual. Yep, get them guns up. Bang, bang. You shouldn't even participate in March Maddie.

So yeah, my thing is, have you made pics with an empty slate? Because I feel like you would not be giving out a pick necessarily tonight if you weren't 12: 00 right now.

I did like this over I went to the lab this morning when I got to the office. I did like it regardless. But yeah, I mean, I can't. You can't be like, Oh, no pick tonight. Yeah. That's crazy.

I mean, that would build the anticipation for the next pick so much.

It would, but there would be a coward's way out to be like, Oh, I can Because I could say no picks for the rest of March. I never lost in March. Come on.

You could do that.

You got to step up to the plate.

Undefeated in March.

If I get to Saturday, there'll be multiple picks, and that's probably where Hank will jump against me. What are you going to say, Max?

Is Dave hopping on tonight?

Dave might be hopping on tonight.

Have you spoken to him offline about this?

I have. He said, I'm so mad at your run because he hasn't been in any of it. And Elio has been hot, too. Are you worried about him hopping on? No. I think the way my brain's working has been the more the merrier. The more the merrier. It's for the people. I'm fighting for the people.

The more the merrier. Just to recap, your enemy right now is the possibility that Hank wants you to lose?

It's Henry Lockwood and everything he stands for as a person. Nothing personal, but as a person. It's everything he stands for. All right. That's what gets me up in the morning. That's what gets me out of bed. I It's just Hank. Because you just heard him, I will over. He didn't know shit.

Well, Hank lives to hate. Seeing him go at Shane right off the bat was wild. Wild. He's just like, Whoever's in that chair, I'm attacking. Yeah.

Poor memes. Got his wisdom teeth out at the ripe age of 30.

Have you had yours out?

Yeah, when I was 16, like everyone else.

I still have not had mine out. Do they hurt? Seven years ago in New York, I had one day where my mouth just blew up. I went to the dentist, and then he gave me the X-ray. He's like, Yeah, we got to I'll get all four of these out. I went home and he told me, Call him back. We're going to schedule an appointment. I simply did not make that call, and it just went away. That's smart. I think I'm good. I think getting your wisdom teeth out is a racket. Yeah.

Did you get yours out? No. Did anyone... Max and Shane, you got yours out.

I got mine out in high school. Yeah.

You got yours out, Shane? Yep. Do people still get their tonsils out?

Yeah, if they get infected. I still got mine.

Oh, you got yours out, Shane? Shane, are you a low-key sick boy?

I got strep throat three times in six weeks.

Oh, shit.

Shane is sick every other week.

You're a low-key sick boy? I didn't know that about you.

No tonsil, gang. Wow. I got all my original body parts. I'm in mint condition right now.

I have no appendix either.

What? Yeah. That burst?

Almost. On death's doorstep.

Do you ever think- Can you drink milk?

I can, but you know. You don't. You choose not to.

Shane, do you ever think what you just described, wisdom teeth, appendix, tonsils, sick all the time. Thank God you were born when you were born because if you were born 200 years ago, you would have been a dead baby.

I think Max is also overreacting. It's the Chicago thing. Since I moved to Chicago, I've been getting...

At least once a month.

You're allergic?

At least once a month, I have to just be like, Shane, go home.

I've had to go to the doctors and stuff.

They don't know what's going on. How's Max as a boss?

He's a fantastic boss.

Because we know Mims's answer would be different.

If Max was not in the room, what would your answer be? Max earmuffs.

Max is not listening. How's Max as a boss?

Max is a fantastic boss.

Okay. Why are you holding up a sign saying, Help me?

I may as well be.

All right, what else? Do we have anything else? Oh, JJ Watt doesn't have to go back to the NFL.

Yeah, they got scored on. Congrats. They He gave up the clean sheet.

And they won the game. So it was a perfect ending for him where he got it. It was a great storyline, very fun, and then doesn't have to go back to the NFL.

Bangle's fans would have been pumped. It would have taken the sting off the Trey Hendriksen thing a little bit. It was like, Maybe I'll get JJ.

He did tell me that he was like... Because I reached out to him and I was like, Dude, this is not the same as the Pinky Bet, but similar where it's like, This can't happen. I was like, Are you actually getting ready for this? He said he had changed his diet and workout routine slightly because it was getting farther and farther down the line.

That was like step one on the checklist. Something that he'll have to... In the future, I would have just said, Fuck it, and kept doing my thing until it was time to actually go to training camp.

Then just not make the team.

And then just sucked. But he's built different. I was wondering this about JJ Watt because he's a guy that retired, and then all of a sudden, he got to enjoy himself a little bit, enjoy the fruits of his labor, travel the world a little bit. He started drinking some beer after he retired. Do you think that a guy as big as JJ is, he probably didn't drink much while he was in the league? Do you think he had a higher or low tolerance when he quit? Wisconsin. Wisconsin? Yeah. Yeah, in the blood.

Jj Walk can drink. I'm going to guess he can drink.

I think now he can. I just don't know. Right after you retire, you're built like a tank. But Wisconsin. But do you have two beers and then you're like, Oh, fuck. Yeah.

I think that just Wisconsin carries through for him there, where it's just like he could just still drink like a tank. Be like, Oh, first time I'm trying this stuff. I could drink 100 of them. Yeah. Oh, Wisconsin. All right. Anything else before we get to our awesome interviews? I'm trying to think. Is there any other news that we missed?

There's some drama. Oh.

Tell us the drama.

It's Egles drama.

Oh.

National Sports Podcast.

Yeah. I cannot say it.

No, I would like to hear it.

There's three players that are involved, two of them. If I gave you three guesses, I think you could get two of them.

Aj Brown.

That's one.

Okay. Ceed Deuce.

That's the other. Okay. Well, and then there's a third, which is Darius Slay. Okay. Darius Slay went on a podcast.

He got cut.

He got cut. They're trying to maybe him rework his contract and him come back eventually. But as of right now, he is cut. He went on a podcast, and they asked who's going to be the leader in the locker room, in the defensive back room as since he's out. And he was like, I think Reid Blankenship is going to be the leader in that room, or they're going to bring in an old guy to replace me as leadership. Ceed took offense to that, went on a tweet spree where it was very... It didn't make a ton of sense. Okay. Oh, did you pull it up?

Yeah.

Basically, he went on a tweet spree, subtweeting, doing gifs, everything. But But I see he needs a little chip on his shoulder to play well. After winning a Super Bowl, it's hard to get that chip on his shoulder. This is when to get a chip on his shoulder. Then the A. J. Brown aspect, that same podcast, Devante Smith, somebody asked... Or that same podcast Somebody asked if Darius Slay thought that Prime, Devante Smith or Prime-O-B-J was a better receiver, and Darius Slay said O-B-J, and an Eagles fan was like, damn, Darius Slay throwing shade at Smitty. And then A. J. Brown got mad at that Eagles fan for saying...

For saying Odell Beckham was better in his prime? Correct. His prime was that catch. It's very rare that you can pinpoint a man's actual prime. It was in that moment, and it was maybe the best prime of all time.

Yeah. Odell Beckham's first, I want to say five years in the league were insane. Yeah, you're right. That was the moment that was like, Oh, shit.

Yeah. If you make a play like that, it's awesome. But also, if it were me, it would suck because I'd be like, Fuck, I'm never going to get better than that. Yeah. That's it. Saquon Barkley, is he going to do better than that backwards hurdle? Probably not. Or is he past his prime?

I don't know. He had a couple of pretty sick plays after that this year.

Oto Beckham. Yeah. So he got injured in his fourth year. His first three years in the league, 1,300 yards, 12 touch downs, 1,400 yards, 13 touch downs, 1,300 yards, 10 touch downs. Pretty damn in over 90 catches in all three of those years. But yeah, Prime Odell was... I just envisioned Odell just taking a slant to the house. Prime Odell. Like a five-yard slant and just everyone just is in the dust. Okay, that was a good national sports podcast. Anything else? Anything in the NBA?

Max, what do you think they're going to do?

Good question.

What do you mean? Who's going to be the leader in that locker room?

Big Dom.

Yeah, Big Dom. Well, no, and the It's a back room. That's what the question was, right?

I think there could be co-leaders. I don't think there needs to be one certain guy.

You need to have a leader.

No, but people lead in different ways. I think that CeeD is going to be a vocal leader. He's always going to have someone's back in the locker, in a Scrum. I don't know. I think Reid Blankenship will also be a leader.

Oh, okay. Co-leaders. Really well said.

I was I was trying to think of- Like Elon and Vivek.

They were co-leaders, and they got along real well.

Elon and who?

Elon. Elon and Vivek.

Who's Vivek?

Yeah, exactly. Ramiswami. Exactly.

Yeah, no, there could be co-leaders.

He's a dude who you probably haven't seen him for a while because he basically did a tweet that was like, American culture sucks. Then I was like, Boo this guy.

That was it. We all said, Boo.

We all were like, Boo, dude. You got booed out of politics. Fuck you, dude. Get out of here. Hell, yeah. Yeah. America rocks. All right, let's get to our interviews. We have Jerry O'Kunal with a very special guest joining in with him to maybe ask a few questions. Then we have Sean McVay. Awesome interview with Sean McVay. We'll finish off with Firefest. Okay, before we get to Jerry O'Kunal, we are brought to you by our friends at Truly Unruly, is the first high ABV hard seltzer that actually tastes good. Truly Unruly is a hard seltzer that breaks all the rules, drinks light, parties hard. With 8% ABV, it hits hard but still tastes amazing. Comes in four fresh flavors, tropical twist, berry blast, citrus crush, strawberries smash. It's the official hard seltzer. Pardon my take. Find Truly Unruly at a store near you or visit trulyhardceltzer. Com. The weather's starting to turn. It's going to be an unruly summer. We're going to get our Truly's. We're going to hit the golf course. We're going to hit the beach. We're going to hit the backyard barbecue, all with Truly Unruly, 8% ABV. It hits hard but still tastes amazing.

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Guys, why'd you call this meeting? Why are you calling me? What do you want? What do you want to talk about? You want to get the- With the Oscars.

We saw you on TV, and you look great, Jerry. I don't know. Who are you wearing?

Yeah, thank you. I was wearing John Barbados. I mean, I don't judge people physically. You guys know that about me, but to be more was very attractive. Well, you know who was very attractive? I don't judge people physically, but if I did, this is who I would say was attractive. I thought Nikki Glaser, who I saw, was a beautiful woman. Oh, yes.

Yes, very beautiful. Where did they put you at the Oscars? Where do you sit?

I wasn't It wasn't inside the building. I was outside the building. What? I was working the red carpet for Live with Kelly and Mark. It's a syndicated morning talk show, not sports-related. I just basically had to sit on the red carpet and be like, Mr. Liffgaal, Mr. Liffgaal, would you like to come and talk to me? It's for Live with Kelly and Mark. Mr. Liffgaal, Mindy Kaling, Mindy Kaling, will you come and say hi to us? Then they edit all the interviews together and they played it the next day on Live with Billy and Mark, which is a syndicated talk show, not sports-related.

But you did look good, Jerry, for the record. You look good at the Oscars. Yeah, thank you. What can we do to get you in the building, though? You should be in that building.

Were you allowed? If you wanted to go in, were you allowed to go in? You just decided not to go in?

No. I think you have to be nominated for something, Phyllis. I I'm not really working a lot right now. Kangoo Jack, which I was in, is not going to get me into the Academy Awards.

It should. Stand by me, it should.

Yeah.

Yeah, but that was decades ago. Yeah. Right now, I'm pretty much known as your fantasy manager, which I don't know. It feels like that is even slipping through my fingers. What are you I may not even have that anymore.

No, you are going to be running our team.

I listened to your interview with Shefti, and I heard you guys say, Hey, maybe you can oversee Jerry when he's doing this. I don't feel comfortable with that because I know it's going to devolve into me talking to Dylan Shefter, his daughter, and asking her, Who are we starting today, Dylan? Ray McLeod or Patrick McLeod? For Ironwood, or you're going to stick me with the Hathelback brothers, Tim and the other one. It's going to be like, Hey, what's up? Hey, Hathelbacks. Come on, we got to set our lineup. Who are we starting? Dunes Take down. I need an answer. I need an answer. I know everyone is going to come on. No, I know everyone because you called this meeting, so now I'm going to talk. Everyone who comes on, you're going to be like, Hey, what's up? Wendy Nix, should Are we go with Disley or Thielen? What are you feeling? I'm not going to do it. I'm just not going to do it.

Jerry, we barely even know Schefter.

Hey, Joy Taylor, should we go with Kakeh or Zakeas?

But, Jerry- Sorry, what were you saying? We have Schefter on once a year. We barely know the man. We have on at the combine once a year. Yeah, there was a conversation, but if you remember, Schefter seemed lukewarm warm on the idea. Seemed like he didn't really understand what he was getting into. So it's like, Hey, all right, this probably won't work out.

If you fucking stick me- It seems- Hold on a second. If you stick me with Darren Ravel, I swear to you.

I would never. No. I will never. I would never, ever, ever, ever.

I could see you guys doing that as a bit.

No. No.

Hey, Tony Reale, Jerry O, got us at our lineups. Fant or Hawkinson, Tony. I need an answer.

Listen, Jerry, Adam is a great guest on the show. I don't even think that he's interested in the position. I don't think that you'll hear from Adam Schefter. I don't think that he's a threat to your job. I think that you actually showed us a lot about how seriously you were taking it. Now, if Adam Schefter did decide that he wanted to be a part of it, we'd have to have that conversation.

We have to talk to him or someone else.

But it seems like he does not give a shit about this, and he's sick of doing fancy football. So I don't think you have anything to worry about. We were mostly just doing that to scare you. I think Adam is not a threat. I don't think you'll hear from him. Okay.

Hey, Chicken Fry. It's Jerry O. We got to take a swing on Noah gray today? All right, wait. So, Jerry- She didn't answer, Chicken Fry.

Jerry, I do have a question about the Oscars. I feel like you dismissed our interest in the Oscars. Who's the best interview you had?

I mean, they're all... It's pretty mainstream media stuff, just like, Hey, are you nervous? You know, Nothing really spectacular, nothing fire like you guys. I do have to say, when you guys were talking to Schefter and he started talking about the death list, my God, that was- So you like him? That was laugh out loud, funny stuff.

Yeah.

So you like Schefter? I do like him, By the way, what are the legalities of him giving me inside information?

I don't think there are any. I think that's what was so attractive about Adam Schefter in this position is because he's got the inside info. I don't think that there's any rules that govern insider trading.

Yeah. I think the biggest issue that we have right now in this relationship is that you are taking our want to make a better organization as a personal sleight when really we're just trying to get better. Wait, what's the issue? Max just said, Jerry's internet may be a problem. Uh-oh. Are we not recording it?

I mean, we're recording it. It's the Riverside. I've never seen it. It says zero out of zero.

Zero out of zero Did you go to Jerry?

Zero.

Can you go to somewhere where there's Wi-Fi?

Jerry, is this the internet that you deal with on a regular basis when you're on the clock?

This is not good. This is not good for you.

Wait, let me just try something here.

How on that Wi-Fi?

Let me just try something. If Jerry is doing the draft, God forbid, and he runs in this situation.

I don't know if it's an Android thing.

Jerry, is it an Android thing?

Green bubble.

Is that better, Phyllis?

It seems like it might be. I don't Max, is that better? No.

What do you want?

He just put this camera.

Jerry O'Fantasy Man is his name.

That's a nice name that you have there.

Maybe stop and just… I just don't…

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Okay, back to Jerry O'Cono. Okay, so we cut out for a second there because Jerry's on an Android and doesn't have great Wi-Fi, which is not great for our fantasy team. But we were going to talk more Oscars.

Yeah, more Oscars.

Hector has an old iPhone.

Well, not anymore. He actually upgraded to the iPhone 16, if you heard the interview.

Yeah, I listened to Yeah, you did.

Yeah. All right, so Oscars, Jerry. What did you think of- I will work with Tiffany.

I will work with Tiffany Gomez. Okay.

Noted. That would be fine.

Hey, Tiff.

What's up? Hey, Cordell Patterson or Moster Tiff. What are you feeling?

All right. So you're saying that we can contact Tiffany Gomez and put her in charge of you?

No. Actually, that was a joke. Don't do it. I'm attempting to stay married. I don't want to have a relationship with Tiffany Gomez. I'm a fan of hers. I am a fan of hers from afar. Hey, guys, I'm not even joking. Really, trouble with marriages. No Tiffany Gomez, please. Fun to be on Twitter, but let's keep it at that.

Okay, but you're the one who brought it up.

You know, guys, I got to tell you, I paid for one-third of that very expensive fantasy buy-in. I don't know if you recall, but my wife called into the show before the season. We were going to redo our driveway. We lost. We had to pay the one-third. We had to a punk, a picture of my driveway. I think about fantasy every time I drive over this couple in my driveway. It's not a joke. Because That's good.

That makes you hungry. Yeah.

You're always going over it. Every time it hits my car and it fucks with my suspension, I think I've got to do better. I've got to do better.

Yeah. Again, I know we cut out there for a second, but all we're trying to do is get us better as an organization, as a team. You're taking it as a personal slight, when in reality, this is all... If we're popping champagne week 17 next year and Ian Rapport or Shefti or Tiffany Gomez is in the middle management role. Will the champagne taste less sweet? I don't think so.

Yeah, it will. I just don't feel like having to talk to Teddy Brusky every Sunday morning and asking him to set the lineups because you guys took access away from me to set lineups. Just don't do it to me, guys. You know what? I actually looked up some stuff, okay? I'm going to give you some stats here.

Okay. All right.

Go ahead. The 2001 bears.

Okay.

2001 bears. 2000 bears only had five wins. 2001 bears had 13 wins. Stuck with Coach Duran.

Coach Duran. Rip. Just passed away.

Rest in peace. Yes.

Prayers for Demar.

Wow. Erlacher Remember them? Erlacher, all them. It was a good team. But they stuck with their organization, and they turned it around. 2004 Chargers, I know because I had season tickets. Coach Schotenheimer. 2003, three wins, 2004 Twelve wins, won the AFC West. They stuck with the system. Who else had big turnarounds? 2019 packers. Three-win season, 2018, 13-win season, They fired Mike McCarthy. Oh, but I think...

They turned it around.

I'm seeing that. That was LeFleur's first season. All right, well, forget about that. Forget about the 2019 packers. Okay. Okay, okay, okay. 2000 2008. Ravens. 2007, they only had five wins. 2008.

Oh, fuck.

Brian Billick was the champ.

Yeah.

2008 is when? Okay. 2010. Okay, Niners. 2010. 2011, 13 wins. Same coach.

Was that Harbaugh? Was that when they brought Harbaugh?

I think Harbaugh started coaching there in 2011, so I think that one plays. I think that one plays. Okay.

Just forget about... The 2004 Chargers had a great turnaround. Guys, just cut that part out that I said about the... What's Let's try. Niners and all that stuff.

Okay. Yeah, we'll cut that part out for sure. The packers.

Jerry, the difference is, when was the last time you won a championship?

Good question.

It was a little while ago. Actually, it was a league that I forgot about. I didn't even set the lineups. It was like it auto-did it for me. They let me know that I won. I forgot that I was in the league.

Every day you drive over the pothole, and it reminds you that you have not won a championship in, what, over 10 years?

Yeah, about that.

Jerry, who are you going to lunch with today?

I'm going out with my buddy Colton Dunn. How did you know that? I guess I told you.

He told me you you have a lunch at one o'clock. I was just curious.

A really funny actor, Colton Dunn. Okay. Look him up. Nice guy. He's actually from the Wisconsin area. He's a packer fan. Sorry, I couldn't have said that. I'm trying to- No, Colton Dunn.

Say your fantasy owner. I'm looking him up. Jerry, when you were on the red carpet, were there any directors or Hollywood bigwigs that were like, Oh, shit, we got to get Jerry. Do you think maybe we're going to get a big... Because You should win an Oscar.

I met Ben Stiller. I was talking to him.

Oh, could you get in severance?

I got to tell you, I'm mostly known for your show these days, and not a lot of AWLs in the academy.

Not a single person was like, Hey, good job. Well, not good job because you didn't win a championship, but I saw you tried.

You guys are being so rude. You guys are being rude. No, we're not being rude. I got to tell you, I can only take so much, guys.

It's fair.

I can only take so much.

Jerry, it's fair. We don't relish putting you down. We don't because you care very deeply about the fantasy team, which is why it was a little bit puzzling that you were so averse to having anybody else help. Big Cat and I, we love this fantasy team. We live it, we breathe it, we sleep it. Ever It was since the start of the show, it was her baby. We cared so much about it that we wanted to bring somebody else, you, in to help us to win a championship. It's a little disheartening that you don't have that same... It feels like it's more about Jerry and less about the team.

Show the picture of Can I have a pothole, please? Go ahead.

Okay. We're showing the pothole. Listen, Jerry. I wanted to have you on today because I wanted- You see that?

By the way, it rained hard. It rained hard this week, and it just keeps growing. Every Every time I drive over that pothole, I think about us and our league. You guys are being super rude.

So, Jerry, we have a guest, and he had just a couple questions for you. No big deal.

Quick questions. Just quick questions. Can you see him? Do you see Chefy?

Jerry? Hi, Chef D. How are you? I'm a huge fan, Chef D.

It is my honor. Listen, these guys, they were very kind to invite me to oversee a team. Before I commit to a venture, Jerry, I just got to have some basic questions answered if that's okay with you.

Totally fair. Totally fair. Sure.

Let's start out, Jerry. Communication is extremely important with fancy football. Texting, FaceToming, all that. Do you use Android or iPhone, Jerry?

Look, the messaging apps between the two, they now have one messaging app, so there's no more green bubbles and stuff. It's one messaging app. So It doesn't matter which phone you use because it's all the same messaging app. Also, I prefer messaging apps that are a little more encrypted, like Signal, where everything disappears, because if we are going to be working together, you're going to be getting some highly offensive shit coming into your inbox. I just want you to know that. You should know, Chef D, if you have a Disney-owned phone, the mouse is going to see some pretty raunchy shit, and not just regular shit. I'm talking hente. We're going to get deep, Chef D. It's going to get deep. This is something that you have to think about if you and I are going to be partners. It's not just me, except for you.

I've gotten some crazy text from some coaches with some rather profane language. I'm used to this, but I still have saved some of those text. I've saved some of those text. All right, Kerry, I'm interested in the- We're familiar with I'm talking some really dark web stuff.

I'm not talking something offensive. Chefy, listen to me. No, no. This needs to be said. Take it up to your big cat. This needs to be said, okay? I'm sorry I'm getting angry, but since I just won the Super Bowl, he doesn't get angry anymore, so let me do it for you. You need to understand it isn't offensive stuff that's coming into your inbox. It's real dark web shit that's going to give you nightmares, Chefy. Nightmare. So get ready. That's okay. You want to talk about whether we can start or not, whether he's going to hit a home run?

Let him ask the questions, Jerry. He's got a job to do here. Let him ask the questions.

Jerry, we got Trey Hendriksen requesting trades. We got NFL Live stuff. I I got to get going here, and I got to get through this process. Let me ask you a few more things, if you don't mind. I'm interested in the process that you use to determine graphic rankings. Can you walk me in a very simple way through your process there?

Yes. If I were to remain in charge of the draft, part of my take fantasy draft, we're going to go heavy on wide receivers in the beginning, and we're not going to pick up running packs until maybe the fourth, fifth, and sixth rounds.

Okay, good answer. Okay.

Approximately, how much football would you say you watch in a given weekend?

Good question. Good question. I I'm currently married, and football is not my job. It used to just be like a quarter, maybe a quarter and a half a week But since my kids got their licenses, I'm getting close to three quarters a weekend. That includes Thursday and Monday night football, three quarters. We need full commitment. I am ashamed of that. I am ashamed I'm not ashamed of that. I'm not ashamed of the dark web shit that I'm going to send you, but I am ashamed that I only get three quarters of football.

That may explain why Big Cat and PFT have not won a championship. That may explain it right there.

We believe a stable home life-We came in third.

Hold on.

Hold on, Jerry.

We believe a stable home life is important to our team's success. Tell me about the level of support that you have from your family in managing a team? Is everyone in your house all bought in, Jerry?

No, they don't even know. They can't stand PFT and Big Cat. They think they're strange people. My wife, I was talking about Max, and she said, Let me see a picture of this guy, and don't even get me started on the reaction that that had. No, they don't like me watching football. They don't like the sound of it. If I do watch it, it usually has to be on mute.

Okay.

Hold on. I got two more because I got to get on a TV show here. But follow up on family, Jerry. Follow up. Family is very important to me. At times, I have my son and my daughter, who's a big fan of yours, help with my workflow. Would you have any issues if they were in contact with you, giving you direction?

No, I love your kids. I'm very happy. Dylan, correct? That's your daughter's name? Yeah.

She's going to be very happy that you know her name.

Very good, Jerry.

Yeah. Yes. I'm very excited to work with them. I think they're great. If you have any advice, I have two 16-year-olds who are currently vaping nonstop. Let's just hope it's just nicotine. If you have any advice for that, let me know.

My Dylan is 16, and who knows what's going on? We hope and pray for the best, right? That's all we can do, Jerry, is parents, 16-year-olds. All right, my last question for you, Jerry. Have you ever, while employed as PMT team manager, spoken to a competing sports program about fantasy football strategy?

Good question.

Great question.

Okay. Now, Mr. Schefter, you understand you get a lot... I'm sure you're a friendly guy who gives your phone number out. I know you have two phones. I have a good friend named Akbar Bajabiamilla who played for the Raiders, who is now currently on Good Day football, Good Morning football. He asked me to come on. I do have to say, coming on to pardon my take has really increased my visibility, and a lot of people call me and ask me about coming on their podcast and such, and it's solely because I do part of my take. I was on Good Morning Football once, but I did let a Big Cat and PFT know I was going on it. He's a friend, and I didn't want to say no. I did another podcast for my friend Adam Pally, but it was not sports-related. It's about health, and I did ask PMT and Big Cat, and they said it was okay, and then threatened me with losing my ability to set the lineups in our fantasy league.

Yeah, that's fair.

Well, listen, these are just things that I wanted to just get out there in the open. I wanted you to think about them. I wanted to hear the answers myself. Now that I have them, and I appreciate your time today, we could sit back, think about things, evaluate. It's like making a traffic. You don't just make the traffic. You put a lot of time thought and energy into it, and then you make the decision about who you're going to pick. Same thing here.

Yeah. Hey, let me get Chef D, let me get your number on that new phone. I got some bids that I really want to send you. I'm going to love These guys got myself.

Jerry, you text me anytime. Good job.

Let me get it. What do you want? You want me to do it on WhatsApp? You want me to do it on signal? You just want straight SMS? I could do whatever you want, Chef D. Whatever you want. You want to come on this team, it's going to-I appreciate how willing and flexible you are. Yeah.

All right. Thank you so much, Chef.

Thank you. Thank you. I have fun.

Yeah, I know you got it. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it. All right. Thanks, Chef. I appreciate it.

Important conversation we need to be had.

Thank you. All right, Jerry, I think that went well. I think that went well.

You guys ambushed me. You guys ambushed me. That was crazy.

We wanted to see how you responded to adversity, Jerry.

What a great sport, man. What a good guy. So funny. He really is. I really look forward to his interviews. I love the Coach Cohen interview as well. I thought it was really interesting. Although, dude, I want you guys to answer something to me. Did you know what he was talking about when he's talking about flapjack, space-side, two deep backs and all that stuff, and he started going into the jargon? No.

You just nod and you're like, Yeah, that makes sense.

You hear one word that you recognize, and you're like, Yeah, I understand the whole thing.

Yeah, just nod along.

That was exciting. That was really fun. Oh, God. I can't wait to send.

I can't wait. Go ahead. All right. No, no, go ahead.

No, you go.

No, you go.

Jeffie, I'm going to send him one vid, and he's going to say, I'm out. I can't do this. I know exactly which one I'm going to send him.

Jerry, what we'd like to know, because we've been talking a lot of coaches recently, they've got a lot of acronyms. I want you to come up with an acronym that embodies the spirit and the motto of what you're looking for in a team. You don't have to do it right now, but we're looking for a change of direction, maybe some fresh ideas.

I'm going to do it right now. I know that Coach Cohen had passed fundamental Attack, Speed, Top.

Situational masters.

That was so funny when you guys were saying that. Yeah. It's two words. It was really funny. Yeah, I have one. My acronym is SHIT. Success, Hits, Intelligence, thoughtfulness. We're going to be thoughtful in who we start.

Okay. Shit. Okay. Shit.

I think the S should stand for Shefty. I thought he was- Shit. I thought... I don't know about- Makes sense? Jerry, I don't know about you, but Shefty He had some really good pointed questions. It feels like he's diligent. That's the type of guy we want in our organization.

Yeah. It's almost as if someone fed those questions to him. This is like the Biden administration.

No, I think you're being a little bit paranoid.

No, no, no. There's some good things to think about. All right, so, Jerry, you did have a rowback poem, so let's finish with that. Rhoback. Com, promo code take, 20% off your first purchase.

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No placebo. Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT. And PFT, congrats to you on landing fat people. Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT. We love you as our leaders. You are balanced and always fair. Big Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT. And PFT, also congrats on the new transplants of your long, luscious hair.

Thank you.

Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT. In the podcasting world, the two of you just seem to thrive. Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT. But PFT, what makes you think you can buy a farm and keep livestock alive? You're going to kill them. Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT. We love the Hot Sea, Cool Throne, the numbers, and even guys on Big Cat PFT, Big Cat PFT, Big Cat PFT, Big Cat PFT. Now that you both turned 40, you better start rubbing that Rockzone on your little fucking dicks. Big Cat PFT, Big Cat PFT, Big Cat PFT. Look, your humor is pretty basic, consisting of farts and big booms. Big Cat PFT, Big Cat PFT, Big Cat PFT. Now that you're both 40, welcome to the world of gray pubes. They're wiry. Big Cat PFT, Big Cat PFT, Big Cat PFT. Yes, the two of you are getting older. Brittle in weak discolored pea. Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT. Now that you both turned 40, you better start rubbing that rock zone on your little fucking dick. Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT.

Look, your humor is pretty basic, consisting of and big booms. Big cat, PFT, big cat, PFT, big cat, PFT. Now that you're both 40, welcome to the world of gray pubes. They're wiry. Big cat, PFT, big cat, PFT, big cat, PFT. Yes, the two of you are getting older. Brittle bones and weak discolored pea. Big cat, PFT, big cat, PFT, big cat, PFT. Big cat can't even run 40 yards without getting a booboo on his knee. Big cat, PFT, big cat, PFT, big cat, PFT. You need to treat long-time fantasy managers with respect, and you better be cautious. Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT. You can't just treat them like Trump treats Zelensky in the oval office.

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He didn't wear a suit. Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT. Look, we all love your podcast. Some would even say it's the best Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT. But you should really treat your fantasy managers better, especially when they are a very, very, very, very special guest. So Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT. You need to take a long, hard look at yourselves, Chefy and me. Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT, Big Cat, PFT. Because if you disrespect your fantasy manager, he might just break IUD. I'll take my answer off the air.

Noted. That was great. I think it was the best poem.

Yeah.

I also think, listen, I think this was a very instructive session that we had with Jerry and Shefti, and I think that Shefti asked some great questions. Jerry did a lot better in the interview than I thought he would.

I like that he fought back a little bit, and he blackmailed Shefti. He's like, Yeah, I'll work with you, but you're going to be under the investigation for many, many computer charges.

Yeah, it will cost you your entire life, but we could work together. All right. Well, that was Jerry O'Kunal and Adam Shefter.

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Nicotine is an addictive chemical. Now, here's our very good friend, Sean McVay. Okay, we now welcome on a very A very, very special guest.

He is our good friend, Super Bowl winning head coach, Sean McVay. Coach, first of all, thank you for joining us. Let's start, though, with, I saw a quote that you didn't go to the combine this year. I think you haven't gone on the combine for a couple of years because you trust your scouts. Now, I believe that, but is there also part of you that just didn't want to run into us two idiots and have to have a stupid conversation at Prime 47? Where we judge your beard, because that would be fine. That's totally fair if you didn't want to see us.

The insecurity that that conversation left me with was a very real thing. Thinning hair, beard. I'm getting PRP shots now, thanks to you guys. But that is a small part, Big Cat. I can't lie.

So we ran you out of Indy. But there's a real question in this in the scouting part. As a head coach, how much does the actual combine and the metrics that you guys collect from there matter when you're analyzing a player? Can it really be, Oh, this guy showed flashes that we didn't see on tape. Now we're going to consider him differently?

The workout Well, the small part is a really small portion for me, at least. I think it's led to some misevaluations. The tape is the biggest guide. What I do think the combine is beneficial for is the medical checks. You get a lot of stuff in terms of the medical checks. Then the other thing is what we used to do when we would go is you spend those 15 minutes increments where you're able to just get a feel for their football acumen when you put their tape on. How are you, coach? You don't want to necessarily punish them for not being exposed to maybe some of the things other guys are. But the meetings can beneficial. But I do think that that 15 minute window is too short of a time to really get a feel for a human being. So the vetting over the course of their careers, the tape and the medical are the things that are the most important guiding principles for us.

Did you have any specific questions you used to ask guys in those 15 minutes to try to get a feel for who they are?

I think the best thing in a lot of this because of some of the shortcomings I've had is, Hey, what's the biggest adversity you faced and how did you bounce back from it? And you I don't want to punish guys for not having gone through it, but I'm such a big believer just based on the course of things that have occurred professionally for me or even personally, that even though the most challenging moments, they felt like the worst thing when you're in them, you look back on them and you're saying, I don't know where I would be without what those lessons and those tough times taught me. And if people have shown a consistent ability to be able to respond and use adversity to catapult themselves forward and it doesn't break them, that means a whole hell of a lot to me.

Do you judge a man by his handshake?

Yeah, I think so, right? I mean, there is a part of it that you can feel. I mean, there's a couple of these guys, they feel like you're going to break your hand, so it definitely leaves an impression. I mean, if you give me that limp handshake, I'm not a big fan of that. What do you guys think?

Yeah, definitely. On the other hand, it's become like an arms race. Ever since people were like, Oh, yeah, Adrian Peterson, he'll break your hand off with a handshake. I feel like guys go into the handshake now thinking about really squeezing, and it's not like a natural movies. It's like, I'm going to try to impress them with my grip strength right now.

Is that what you guys do?

Well, so I'm dealing with an issue for the last three months. I have a broken pinkie, and so every time I shake someone's hand, it's a 50/50 shot whether they'll hit the right spot where I'm just screaming in pain internally. But I also don't want to give a bad handshake, so I go in strong. What would you grade me if we were in the combine? I was like, Hey, listen, man- Honestly, I would probably transition to a half dap brohug. I do try to dap a little bit more, but it's just like- That way, then it's still not impersonal.

But I mean, I've been in those situations where you get some of those handshakes and it sends a shockwave through your whole fucking body.

Right. And then I have that. And I judge myself. If I give a bad handshake, I'm upset at myself. And it sticks with me for a little bit where I'm like, Man, I fucked that up. I fucked that up, and that guy probably thinks I'm such a pussy.

What's the last time when you thought that yourself, and then you felt the other guy thinking that same exact thing?

Oh, yeah. You do the look away because you know that you screwed it up.

Now you can't even make eye contact because he's thinking you're a pussy, too.

Yeah, right. Exactly.

I judge mostly based on the claminess of the handshake. That, too. How much moisture is on the other end of it because that tells you that the poems don't lie. It's like you can squeeze as hard as you want. But if you're sweating, I know that you're a little bit nervous. If I was a prospect, I would just go in for a hug and a kiss with the coach. Yeah, I'll just be like,It's strong. Come here. It's strong.

Give me a smooch. Let's see. Give me a quick kiss.

That's certainly leaving an impression.

Yeah, it absolutely would. You wouldn't forget that guy. The big news, obviously, last week, Matthew Stafford sticking with the Rams. How long was that conversation when he came to the facility and you're like, Hey, let's just do this? Because I think we all assumed that was going to happen, but there was a little bit of time there where it was up in the air and there's rumors going around, ski trips, whatever. But how quickly were you able to just be like, Hey, we need you here. We want you here. You still got football left.

That was consistent throughout the Yellowstone. I'm upset I wasn't there for the ski trip. That was a free... That's a who's who over there. I would say this, That was always the end goal in mind, trying to figure out, Hey, how do we get this guy back? What I do think is good, and honestly, and I've talked about it, the biggest thing to me was that was always what we wanted. Matthew knew that. I'm so glad that it ended up where it did. But the most The most important thing is when you're making these commitments, and he's such a central part of where we want to go, and he's got such a positive influence on his teammates, him feeling good about it, and Kelly feeling good about it, and really collectively, us all understanding, Hey, here's where we were at. Let's have some good conversations. There's never been anybody that I really loved and cared about that you couldn't have real conversations with. I think we understood that we might not always see eye to eye on some different things, but I think we were closer as a result going through it, even though there was some stuff where you're out there and it became so public where you're at the gym and shoot, the music's going, but you have one of these stations on, and that's all they're talking about.

And you're thinking they're showing these highlights and stuff. And I'm thinking, I would be a real dumb ass if we let this guy go. But it was good. It was a couple of hours, but it was more of a formality in making sure that everybody felt good about the direction we're going. And I will say it was a great meeting, and I felt that it was some uncomfortable weeks, but where it's at, I think we're better as a result of it. I know I at least feel that way. From my understanding, I think Matthew and his family does as well.

You mentioned Kelly. Do you have anyone in the analytics department that listens to her podcast to try to be like, All right, here's where the negotiation might go. She's tipping her hand a little bit. Do you have anyone who's studying that?

I haven't had anybody study that. We got a guy. We haven't had that.

We got a guy that does it. Jerry O'Neill. He's got all the information on that. Yes. You're a smart guy. If you're going to be trying to convince Matt Stafford to play for your team, you take him someplace warm. You take him to Cabo. You don't take him up in the mountains on a ski trip.

Yeah. Was that an Ain't no fun when the rabbits got the gun moment? Where it's like, Oh, shit. I remember this. Vacation bump into someone.

There were some nervous vibes. I thought, Oh, this feels familiar. But the difference was we didn't give him permission to actually be traded. We gave him permission for his agent to talk to other teams that was different than the parameters around Detroit. I'm damn glad that we're talking about him being a Ram. Otherwise, it would be a real different feeling that I would have right now. I don't think I'd have the courage to come on and talk to you guys. It would be bad.

It'd be interesting because you'd probably be having Aaron Rodgers come in, and then we'd have a whole bunch of things to talk about in that case. There's another guy, Cooper Cupp, great player. He might be playing in a different place next year, but I think it's the same situation, where it's like, if he doesn't find some place, if you guys don't find a good deal or whatever, there's a chance he could be a Ram next year, too. Is that fair to say?

I would say probably not. This is a little bit different. This guy has been such a powerful influence, impact player, but also person. And his rookie year coincides with my first year as a head coach. I would say this, in the eight years going into year nine, there hasn't been a more challenging circumstance that you to navigate relative to knowing that the most likely outcome is we're part in ways with him. He's a legacy Ram. He's done so many incredible things. I mean, you look at how instrumental he's been in all things that are right about the Rams. He's at the center of that. And that hasn't been fun, but he's been a real one throughout it. And sometimes these tough conversations are real things, but forever grateful for what he's done over these eight years. And he's got good football left in him for sure.

Yeah. So the human element of that obviously It sucks. It's part of the job. Do you find yourself, though? I think that if I were in your position, I would just send a stray text to Cooper Cup and just be like, I love you, bro. Shit like that where you get in your feelings a little bit. Do you ever find yourself doing that?

Yeah. I'll say this, though, in all seriousness, the thing that when I look back on, all right, let's make sure you learn from your mistakes. Early on, you're 30 years old as a head coach, you're naturally thrust into a role where you have to make hard decisions that you can't accommodate hate everybody. But I was so worried in a lot of those instances of still trying to be liked and respected. I think you get better at being able to with an empathy, but an honesty and a direct communication in regards to, Hey, this sucks with careful consideration I've been wrong before. I could be wrong again. But this is what we think is best for the collective, even though it might not suit an individual. But yeah, you're in your feelings. I love this guy. What's crazy is this guy has changed my life for the better. I'm a better coach. I've opportunities. There's been financial things that have come my way, and he's been an instrumental part of all those blessings that this game has brought. And he's been one of the main guys that's been a positive influence. So there's a lot of emotions that goes into that.

But I do think that the friendship, the relationship we formed over time, while it might be where I'd be pissed off if I was him, too, hopefully as time goes, there's at least an appreciation that, hey, not easy, but we've had good communication, and there'll be a lot of appreciation and gratitude when you look back on the time spent together.

You mentioned something there that's interesting because just knowing you for… I think the first time we had you on was six or seven years ago. Knowing you, I can feel it that you have gotten a lot more comfortable in the role where maybe when you first started, it was like, I have to do what the image of a coach is. I can't really be myself. It feels like you're a lot more comfortable being yourself. Was there a moment, was it winning the or was it before that where you're like, Hey, look, I'm really good at this. I don't have to be someone else's vision of a coach. I'm just going to be Sean McVay.

Yeah. I don't know if it's as much that big cat as much as it's just growing up as a man. You're 30 years old when you get hired and you're really figuring out, okay, through good things and then through failures, what are you really about? How are you foundationally built? What's the shit that really matters in terms of how you positively impact people, but how you handle hard times, how you handle hard conversations with an empathy and an appreciation, how you enjoy it? I think sometimes not taking yourself so seriously, too. I think it was part of just coming into that dynamic. But I think a lot of the failures or mistakes I've made through eight years where people give you grace, but you're saying, All right, if you really mean you want to take accountability, it's okay. People make mistakes, but learn from it. Really apply those learning lessons with all the things, whether it's football-related, most importantly, family, relational, how you are as a father, as a husband, all those things. I do think, I'll say this, too. Having a kid has just brought such a purpose and a perspective into my life that I just didn't have before.

I realized how freaking selfish I was before this ended up happening. It's been the biggest blessing ever.

Having kids, I tried to... It's obviously very difficult, but there is a superpower that comes with it where things that felt important before just roll off your back because you're like, This is not important. The way best I describe it is you live the first however many years of your life where you're the main character in your movie, and then a kid shows up and you're like, No, you're the main character in my movie now. You're the main character that everything revolves around.

So it totally changes it. It's so true, though. It's funny when you say that, too. You think about probably the enjoyment you guys have working with each other and the rest of your group and what it's become when it's about, I don't want to let people down. It's the same thing in coaching. I can I think about when it's been the most pure, when we were in the midst of going and trying to win a Super Bowl in '21, where we get into the playoffs, I genuinely felt in the midst of that, I wanted it more for Whitworth, Aaron Donald, Stafford, Cup, Jalen Ramsey, O'Dell, our coaches, Von Miller. And that is where you're much more fulfilled. It almost takes a pressure off where it's like, it's not about your selfish ambitions. I want to do it because I don't want to let that other guy down. And it's wild how it's almost like a weight is alleviated. Whereas when you feel like, man, this shit's more about you than you'd ever like to know anybody, you don't say it out loud and you know how to say the right things, but you know what you're feeling, that's the best thing I can put about my son and my wife.

And when you apply those things in all parts of your life, man, there's where real fulfillment. It's not perfect, but it's a much better way to live to me.

Do you ever think to yourself, 30 years old, what were they thinking hiring a 30-year-old to be a head coach? Being this old now and thinking about how young you were back then. When I was 30, I was a completely different human being.

Yes. I tell that to Stan Cronky all the time. I said, What the hell were you thinking hiring me as a 30-year-old? You know what you realize is, well, you might be ready to do some of the things from a leadership perspective, just coaching-wise, there still is an emotional toll that takes on you because of the internal pressure you put on yourself. If you really were to say, though, what's the best thing in these eight years that's happened to For me, it was going 5 and 12 in 2022. It really was because of what that forced. I had to get my ass broken down and really exposed on a public level where you're really saying, all right, some of these insecurities you have now you can't hide from them, and you're either going to handle it the way that you would want to advise your son, or you're going to run away from it, and you can conveniently hide behind other opportunities. And so there is no doubt that... I say that to Mr. Cronky all the time, but I'm sure damn glad that he made the decision to do that.

Was there a point this year where you did send that text to Aaron Donald and you were like, Hey, how are you feeling? Ha-ha.

He was at my house after we had played Minnesota earlier on in the season. It was a Thursday night game, so we had a birthday for my son, Jordan. It was his first birthday. We were officially those parents that the one-year-old, he really knows it was really us throwing a party for ourselves, acting like it's for our one-year-old. But I think I caught a couple of vodka sodas too many, and I definitely was trying to convince him of that. He was like, Hey, bro, we've already been down this road, man. You know that's not happening. We got some momentum going right now. What do you think?

Yeah, just hop in.

If I were you, I would do that at least once a week. Just emphasize your last minute.

And he still could. He could still go. I mean, it is what a stud that guy was.

Yeah, you need to reverse it. You need to be like, People are saying you're getting fat. Is that true? I heard people saying that. You don't have it anymore. You're not tough.

I think he would know that's just not true that he wouldn't even respond. That'd be like spitballs on a battleship to him.

I don't know if you saw this quote. I'm sure you did. But Kevin Dotson said that Sean McVay thinks in 4D or something. So the exact quote is, I don't think people can think like him. I think he thinks in 4D or something. He's just thinking in every direction. Do you see in 4D?

I do not, but I did not hear that quote. Knowing my man K. Dot, he's a stud. I'll take that all day, and that is my guy. Did you see what he did against the Niners on the screen where he took two out?

No. No.

So it was a good day. It went viral, man. We threw a little inside perimeter or an inside tunnel screened in Nakuwa, and he ended up pancaking two guys on the play. You should check that out. K. Dot was doing his thing. Was that the- It was against the Niners on Thursday night when we had the shootout win, 12: 06.

Yeah. So that game, we obviously watched the whole game. When you get into a game like that, is there a point You're meeting the game where you're like, God damn it, this game sucks? And you just try to find a way to win it because it felt like it. You saw it was like punt, punt, punt. You're like, Oh, it's going to be one of those games where no one's going to be able to move the ball, and you just got to figure out a way to survive.

The answer is it was challenging. But, hey, you saying punt, did you see Northern Colorado with the fake punt? Yes.

I told you it would work. I told you it worked.

I showed that in the team meeting. The fucking guys loved it. I said, I'll be damn. Now, it was on fourth down, not third down, I think. My guy Carter Crutchfield, he spliced that in with us talking about it. That's awesome. And then a fake punt. I thought of you. The guys loved it.

I was so pumped when I saw it. I was like, It worked. It worked. A fake punt-punt. I'm telling you.

I swear, you guys got a shout out in the team meeting.

But I was like, How be damn.

We got to find the Northern Colorado coach and say, What was the What was the genesis of this? Did he see this?

When he brought it up. That would be great, too. It was a great play. You think about putting that in the playbook next year?

You know what that reminded me of? If you saw our Philly game, we ran a fake flea flicker screen to the tight end. It's our version offensively of the fake punt-punt. You think it's a flea flicker? No, now it's a screen.

The flea flicker check down is always open. You can always get 7 to 12 yards on that.

We've It's called that play twice, and it's gone for 20 on both of them. One was in an NFC Championship in '21, and then the other one was against Philly in the divisional round. But obviously, you know how that one ended.

Yeah. So dumb question about the Philly game. By the way, I was rooting against you because you guys were my Pinky team this year. So if you had won the Super Bowl, I would have had to cut off the tip my Pinky. So that game was very nerve-wracking to me because I was like, the Rams. I declare a Pinky team.

What do you mean, were you Pinky?

Why the hell would we be your Pinky team? Because it has to be an 0-2 team that has Super Bowl aspirations. I can't just be like, Oh, my Pinky team is the Panthers this year. So it's basically saying, This team's done. You guys were obviously not done. You went on a run. I was starting to get very nervous. That Philly game was as tight as tight could be. But my question is, it's loser talk, but is there part of you that says, Hey, we played Philly, the Super Bowl champs, tougher than anyone else in the playoffs. We're right there. Do you take any solace in Because that's a fan thing to do and a loser thing to do. But I'm wondering if there's a little reality of like, Hey, we were right there.

Well, here's what I would say. The answer is, in some form or fashion, I think human nature, yeah, you watch that and you say, How cool would that have been? Here's what I'll tell you. The answer is in some form, yes. But then you also acknowledge every year is a new year, every week is a new week, shit like that. Philly was a real team, but we did play them well that day, and they made enough plays to be able to win. We had our chances. I was proud as hell of our football team. But the thing that I thought would have been so special is if you got a chance to host the NFC Championship in the midst of everything that our community had done, what I thought was really cool, I wouldn't even worry about necessarily winning and losing, but let's represent for the city, how we want to play, the competitive toughness, the way that you stay connected and stay together as a team, and those guys did. It was as fun of a team as I've been a part of where there was real improvement throughout the year. But that was where you say, Man, we were so close to being able to host an NFC Championship for the city in spite of everything that's going on.

Obviously, Washington was a damn good team. You never know how it's going to play out. But when you watch that, I think naturally you think that, but you also aren't naive to say, Man, every week is a new week, and you just never know how those matchups are going to unfold in a league that is so matchup-oriented week to week.

Yeah, it would have been cool to see Los Angeles showing out there. That brought up something that I think we talked about at the start of the playoffs, which was the Chargers were in the playoffs. You guys were in the playoffs. There was a chance, it was an outside chance, granted, that both the Chargers and the Rams would have hosted the NFC and AFC Championship games on the same day. How crazy would that have been? Also, is there a difference between having Harbaugh as the coach of the Chargers and having Staley? Are you finding more tons of dip around the team facility that you guys share.

You know what? We don't actually ever really cross over. They have their own locker room. We have our own locker room. But Harbaugh is a stud. He did a great job. You could see his identity all over that team. That would have been a champagne problem if we were hosting an AFC and NFC Championship at SoFi that I think Stan, Mr. Crocky, would gladly navigate.

He'd be very happy with that. Let's talk about the acronyms. You've got two acronyms over your left shoulder, heart and fast. Fast? Yeah. Fast seems pretty familiar to me. I think that's Liam Cohen's. Did you steal FAST from Liam Cohen?

I want to know what that biter said. I want to know. He comes on. He's got his acronym, Liam, get your own shit.

Yeah.

I love Liam, but what did he say FAST? Fundamentals, attacking, situation, and then toughness?

Yeah, it's the same one. Situational masters. But here's the thing. I don't think you want to take credit for it because it's a terrible acronym. The double words. No, it's not. Yes, it is.

Okay, well, hold on.

I don't think you know what an acronym is.

You don't understand an acronym.

Let me explain. Say that again.

I don't think you know what an acronym is. All right, do this. What does F stand for?

F stands for fundamentally sound.

That's two words. That's two words. Bad acronym already.

What does S stand for? You know what?

How about just great... How about fundamentals? Let's go there. That's great.

That's way better. Way better.

They're good. What about the Situational master.

Yeah, I know. It's two words. It's bad acronym. One word.

Hey, you know what? I appreciate you picking it apart. I'm going to go back to work after we get out this fall. Make sure it's these one word. But we do have to figure out a way to have an S or something.

Speed. You could do speed. It could be football, attacking, speed, toughness. That's fast.

Yeah, but But we got to handle the situations. You can't just ignore that. Maybe it's this understood that masters is understood as situationals.

Can you ever achieve situational mastery, though? Mastery is a big word. You want to strive for it, but I don't think it can I never achieve it.

I think it's like perfection, right? If you come up short, you're still in that excellence category. That's the way I look at it. What do you think?

Yeah, it's not a bad way to look at it. But to be fair, you also stole the standard is the standard from Mike Tomlin.

I'm not afraid to admit it. Listen, Mike T, let me just tell you this. Coaches, all the good coaches, they're great themes. There's nothing that I've said that is original. But if we gave the proper reference to, All right, this is maybe what stimulated it, I'm good. But if you act like it's your own, now you're just lying.

Yeah, I don't think he did. And look, you have an acronym above you.

No, he did. No, I don't think he did. I think it's Liam Cohen's acronym. Yeah, I think so.

Ken, you should give it It's a bad acronym. It's a bad acronym. Give it to him. You have heart right above you. It looks perfect. Humility, energy. What is that?

Accountability, Relationships, Toughness.

That's a better acronym. That's a better acronym.

I can be coaching The two-word thing, it resonates. I got no argument with you guys. Hey, I know this. The next time you have me on, the backdrop is going to have acronyms with one word associated to each letter. I promise you that.

I love that. How do you go about deciding what the theme for the team is going to be next year? Is there a retreat that you go on with your coaches and you're like, let's think of some new weird shit that we can just put all over the walls?

Perhaps. But I would say this, we try to keep consistent messaging. It's all similar types of stuff, but a lot of it is reflective of what have we experienced? And then so much of it is a reflection of what authentically resonates. When I talk to our group, I'm talking to myself first. I think that connection, but it's like, if you're asking people to do something or if you want to hold a certain standard and you're not doing it, then you're a fraud. So I think the players feel when you're authentically talking about things that resonate and allow you to be at your best, because all we're really trying to do is, Hey, man, let's maximize ourselves, the people around the situations we're a part of. Let's be real people, but let's act, interact, and respond the way that we want. The air is a culture, act, interact, respond. That's a good acronym for you.

Oh, that is good. That is good.

Interact, respond.

I like that.

That's very good.

Culture is your air. Everybody throws out that buzzword culture. Shout out to Shaka Smart. I heard him say that. I'm not going to steal stuff and act like it's my own. I heard him say, Our culture is how we act, interact, and respond. And I thought, Oh, that's our air. I like that. So shout out to Shaka for that.

That's good.

I'm sure that you've gotten some calls from me. I don't know if it's other owners, other GMs that have used you as a sounding board. If they're thinking about hiring somebody, whether it be as a coordinator, as a head coach, you don't have to name any names. Has there ever been a time when you'd be like, Don't hire that guy?

No. I think, first of all, because I'm a big believer that you're only calling if we've worked with each other. The guys that have been here, I can authentically vouch for because we've worked together, we've seen what it looks like when shit's hard. Then that would be an admittance of failure on my part if we onboarded somebody that wasn't about that stuff. So all those guys that have gotten calls on, the best part is that you can talk from a genuine place. It's been awesome to see guys go do their thing. I thought what Liam did in Tampa was an incredible job as an OC. I'm happy for both Liam and James Gladstone. That's a big loss for us, too, because he was like, less his right-hand man. He'll do a good job, man. He's super smart. You guys should get him on the pod sometime.

We met him, and we unfortunately didn't realize that he was the GM of the Jags when we met him because he is young, and we're just He's young. We were like, who's this guy?

He's young. But you know what? He's wise beyond his ears. It's like I was when I was first hired. I've told you guys the story of when I was doing my second interview where basically, unless you shit yourself, you're getting the job. We go over to Spago's. Have I told you guys that story?

No, I don't think so.

No.

Basically, I get a second interview, and it's like you're coming in, and it's a formality of Mr. Cronky meets you. You feel good about this meeting, and then off to the races. Here we go, Ram's head coach. But this dinner is at Spago, which is right across the street from the montage where they put me up. So it's Mr. Cronky. It's Kevin Demoff, our team President, who now oversees KSC, which is all Cronky Sports Entertainment, and it's Marshall Falk, because they wanted to invite a guy that had a bunch of wisdom that would say, Can you really actually hire a 30-year-old head coach? So it's us four at the table. And Wolfgang Puck comes up to the table. He's a fan of the Rams. He's a fan of Mr. Cronky. He says, Hey, when are we going to hire the new coach? Where's the new coach? Because surely he's thinking, this intern sitting at the table, no way this guy is the leading candidate. And I mean, everybody at that table felt very uncomfortable about, How do I navigate this question?

That's great.

Hey, got the job, though.

Yeah, you did. Real quick, I got a couple of last questions The Bear's trading for Jonas Jackson. Just say something awesome about him.

He was tough, physical. You know what? We didn't miss on him, Big Cat. What we did was we missed on projecting some people to play the center spot. He had some unfortunate injuries where he never had a chance to really get the foundation. This guy's a stud, stud human, stud, physically, mentally tough dude. I'm a big fan of him. He'll do really well for him. There's a reason why Ben wanted him back. You could see the investment in the interior lines, trying to make it Detroit in Chicago.

Yeah, And speaking of Ben Johnson, is part of you pissed that everyone's like, Man, he's an offensive whiz kid. He's a genius, and he's not a McVay guy? Are you like, How is this possible?

Oh, absolutely jealous. I mean, incredibly. But I will say this, the guy has done a damn good job. I couldn't believe, though. He took a good shot at my boy Lafleur. Yeah, he did. I'll be interested to see what that dynamic looks like at the league meetings, man. He did. I was like, Oh, shots fired, man. Here we go.

Oh, you got to try to get them together in the picture. You got to put them together in the picture.

That's a good idea. We'll arrange that. But it seems like a good dude. I don't know him. You guys have talked to him. You like him?

Yeah, I think he's a very smart guy, and he's got a software coding background where he was telling us that he was working with data sets and actually writing code when he first started coaching to optimize the workflow. Was that something you ever did? Did you get a technical with it?

No, he's way smarter than me. The guy has done a damn good job. I'm impressed watching him from afar. His guy's way smarter than my dumb ass.

He also squats 405, no big deal. How much do you squat?

410 then.

Damn, I led you into that.

Five pounds over whatever he's doing. I like his move, though.

Hey, he's way smarter than me, but I'll take him down. In the weight room.

I like getting hired and then just immediately taking a shot at somebody. It's like your first day in prison. Yeah, why not? You can let people know.

Did you guys ask him about that?

Yeah, we did. He said he doesn't know him. What did he say? He's like, I don't know him. I just want to beat the packers. So I liked it.

I think it was also out of respect. He was like, he's a great coach, so I want to coach against great coaches.

Yeah. See, but that adds a caveat that changes the whole narrative then. Then that's more of a, Hey, respectful jab I don't know. You got to get Lafleur on here and see if he took it that way.

We will. All right, I got one last question. It's a Roback question. Robachk question. R-h-o-b-a-c-k. Com, promo code take. 20% off your first purchase, Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowbackk. Com, promo code take. This has been so much fun. We always love having you on. I assume there's a little gap in the schedule for a vacation. How do you plan where you're going on vacation? Are you like, All right, where's Joey Bosa going? Where's Devante Adams going? Is that how you do your vacation where you tell your wife, Wait, we got to see where our next free agent is going to be going, and then we'll bump into him.

Absolutely. That is exactly what we do. How do we figure out to time it up to go to a cool spot we might conveniently run into a position of need for us where a great player might be available. There's no doubt about it.

That's smart. My last question, can you just remind our listeners? Because we've talked about the standard being the standard, and we brought it up earlier. It was originally a Mike Tomlin thing. He probably stole it from somebody else, though, because that's how coaches work.

They hear something-I can see Mike Tee making it. Mike Tee is pretty... That might be a Mike Tee-ism.

Can you explain what the standard is the standard means? Because we know what it means. Like Big Cat, what's the standard? It's the standard. It's the standard. But can you explain to those of us who might not fully understand it, what does that mean? It's the standard. Got it.

It's the standard.

You got it. Great answer. You got it right. You understand it. That I do. All right, Coach, thank you so much. Really appreciate your time. Always great having you on. Best of luck in free agency in the draft.

No, hey, I appreciate it. Always enjoy doing it with you guys.

Good luck, Coach. And also the beard looks great.

Beard looks awesome.

It does look good.

Thank you so much. Hey, thank you for leading me to PRP.

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Firefest of the Week. Henry? Not much.

Not a big Firefestivity week for me. Really, it just happened. Moments ago in the studio, I successfully was able to catch up to Severance without it getting spoiled. You guys were respectful this time, which I appreciate.

We actually were. Credit to us.

We were. It's mostly because me and Big Cat are so invested in it that we feel we have sympathy for what you're going through because if anyone were to spoil it for us, we would be furious.

Also, it's a little different because this is a show that's actually going on, and the thing that you claimed we spoiled for you was a show that happened 20 years ago.

Yeah, it was more of this. I told you I was enjoying the show with you guys. Yeah, a little different. That's the past.

That's the past.

This was different.

We respect spoilers in real-time television.

Yeah, as you should. But it took me a while as a slow burn Watch an episode a night, didn't really know what was going on until halfway through the first season. Then I got fully addicted, burned through season 2. I'm already rewatching it. Then we were talking about it, theories and stuff before, and you dropped the bomb on me that there was three years in between seasons.

Yeah.

There's one episode left in the season, right? Yeah.

No, I think there's three episodes left.

Oh, thank God. I was going to say that's a firefest if I've been so addicted to this, and I'm going to have to wait three years now.

It's a tricky game to play. So PFT has been watching it for a couple of years. I watched Season 1 of Severance three months ago.

I watched it a year ago. It was just a year. Yeah.

Then I looked up and I was like, When is the next season? I was like, Oh, it's happening in two months. Then someone told me that the people who watched the show from Season 1 had to wait 2-3 years for Season 2. That's so brutal.

I don't know. I watched it week-by-week from Season 1. You did? From the first episode, I watched it week-by-week.

Did you rewatch? No. I don't like you in this seat, by the way.

Meme's got his wisdom teeth out, so I'm here.

Okay. But yeah, so this is my big... I like binging shows. I like just diving right into them. I don't know how people can watch a show. I gave up on House of Dragon because I watched the first season and then it was four years and I was like, I don't remember fucking shit. I'm out.

Yeah. Severance is the rare show that is... The first four episodes are so complicated and convoluted. It's very like Game of Thrones. You don't know what the fuck is going on, but you can identify, this is a pretty good show. I just don't understand anything.

I think the wire is like that, too. Well, it's like when there's so many story lines, when you're watching the beginning of it, you're like, How does this connect? Then once it all connects, it makes it the greatest show of all time. Yeah.

It's It's an awesome show. But three-Look at us talking TV. Yeah. Praise Keir. We do everything. Always praise Keir.

I might be rooting for Keir. Got to. I want to see what that guy's got going on. Got to. I think they're bringing Keir back.

Keir is good for the league.

I think Keir might be God. Listen, You need Keir.

Keir gets ratings.

You need a guy like Keir, somebody that you can point at and say, That's the bad guy.

You might not like the Chiefs, but the Chiefs are on Monday Night Football. You're watching. That's Keir. All right. Well, congrats, Hank. Way to go. Way to get up to the Great. Anything else?

Thanks for the congrats.

Yeah.

Congrats. You watch a TV show.

Yeah. No, it is. I'm proud of you. Congrats. Thank you. This is my time of the year. This is my only time of the year where I can catch up on TV shows, so I've been all in. What do you mean, White Lotus.

I'm pretty good about Severance in terms of knowing that it's on Apple TV and knowing what streaming service to go to. But most other shows, I'd say I'm batting 10% in finding the correct app the first time when I'm looking for a show.

I just Google it.

Yeah, Google exists.

This is a horrible-No, but, Max, sometimes you feel like you can trust yourself, and I'm like, I'm pretty sure that one's on Hulu.

Then you go there and you're like, Fuck, it's not there.

I just go Google because for kids' shows, especially, they'll be like, Despicable Me is on one thing and Despicable Me 2 is on another. I always just have to look it up.

I like trying to do it the first time just to see if I'm... It's a heat check. I'm like, I think I got this, and I never got that.

Also, since we're talking TV, I just had to Bill Simmons just making an entire documentary about the Celtics. Did you watch it? I'm watching it. It's just very... To have that type of power to be like, You know what I want to do? Let's talk about this. Let's make a full documentary about the Celtics. America will love this. I love it. I'm sure you do. It must be awesome for him. I am watching it. I'm like, That's power. That is power.

It is, yeah. That's big time power. As a Boston sports fan, he's done so... Big time power. He's produced more porn than anybody else.

If it was a document of any team, I'd be like, I'm... Only Celtics fans are watching. Right.

What obscure, or more obscure than the Celtics, but what other Boston sports story would you like to see Bill Simmons make a documentary about?

I don't know. He's made a lot of...

He might have done all of them.

I mean, a good Patriots one from him would be good.

Like a counterbalance to the most recent one.

What was it called?

I even forget The Dynasty?

Dynasty.

Yeah.

Apple TV. Well, that one was made by Robert Kraft.

Yeah.

Did you guys see that Netflix also is doing a Genie Bus show?

Oh. No.

Kate Hudson is the owner of the Los Angeles Waves.

Is it going to be Salacious?

Wait, so they're just doing the Showtime show that they canceled?

I think it's very loosely based It's basically just a woman's father dies, and then she takes over the team. Got it. It's like a sitcom, almost.

Got it.

Okay.

Is there too much? Yes. Chad Hanks.

I'm in.

He's a very main character in the show.

Too much TV? I feel like there is. Chad Hanks, does your honor have another episode or season?

I don't know. That's one that should have been just one season.

I just forget about all of these things, and then Oh, yeah, this is coming back. I don't remember anything that happened.

Chad Hayes should make his own streaming app. It's just any show he's in.

He also is the biggest asshole douchebag ever in the show.

No way. Shut up. Shut the fuck up, Max.

I know. I think they already did do a Bob Marley biopic, but they should do another one where Chad Hanks plays Bob Marley. Yeah. That would be so sick.

All right.

All right. What's your Firefest?

My Firefest of the week is I spent yesterday, yesterday morning, I'm building a flight simulator in one of our studios here, and it's pretty much good to go. I just know that I'm basically never going to go home now because I've got everything that I need within these walls.

This segues in my Firefest because the bar still after dark. We were doing it on Tuesday night. We can talk about it in a second, but I was asking Tate what's next, and I think you're doing something next week with the flight simulator. I was like, This is fucking bullshit that he's doing his favorite thing. I know there's other wrinkles. It sounds like an awesome stream. I was like, Shit, you could just do your favorite thing?

Well, you love to eat.

Not the way we ate.

No, but you're not going to love the way I flight soon.

Not the way we ate. I was saying it would be like- There wasn't much difference between that and a Sunday when it's- Oh, no. Shut up, Hank. You would never fucking do it. No, I was saying a comparable one is if I was just like, I'm doing a stream and I can't leave until I win this many bets. I'm like, That's what I'm going to do on a Tuesday night anyway.

I'm going to Flight Sim till I puke. It's going to be an overdose of flight simulator.

It's a hack tip. It's not like this boy. It's like, That was smart of you.

It's a relatively intricate flight sim that I built with the help of Sam and Spider, and it's a Boeing flight sim. I'm thinking, Yeah, exactly. I was thinking that maybe Boeing might be interested in sponsoring our flight simulator because they've had a lot of bad PR. It would be one way for us to... Actually, everyone No one's just going to crash the flight simulator.

How hard will it... I want to get on the simulator. How hard will it be to learn it?

Not that hard. I love it. I don't think. My only rule, I've got one rule for the flight sim, because you got a map of the entire United States. You can fly planes anywhere you want. It's very realistic. No 911s. Okay. If you do a 911, you're suspended. I love that. You're kicked out. Not even once.

I feel like that's fair.

Not even one tower?

No. There's only one tower left. They built the new tower. It's just one tower. I would assume they don't have retro. I don't think they have retro.

I don't think so, no. But they should have a mission where you can go back and be Mark Wahlberg. You can stop 911s from happening. That would be sick. That would be sick. If you'd want to do that. But no, I'm pretty pumped up about it. We got a stream coming on Tuesday that I'm excited about. But yeah, now that that thing's built, it's like, I'm going to go home to sleep, and that's about it. Everything I need is in these walls. You should get severed.

I might get But severed to just go home. The other thing is-You're just you here.

I'm not very good at the flight simulator. I just like doing it. Who cares? Who cares? Do you think it's not possible? Yeah.

10,000 hours.

I don't know if I got 10,000 hours doing that.

What if you include the phone?

That's only on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

I've never been good at any of the video games I play.

They're still fun. They're still fun, yeah.

My Firefest is Max and I on Tuesday night for anyone who tuned in, Barcelo After Dark. We did the Doug Doug challenge. I still don't really feel good physically. What were your stats? We went to 15-For your personal stats? Yeah. People don't know the Doug Doug challenge You have to- Doug, Doug. I think that's the guy who created it.

I can pull up his stats.

Yeah. So he went to... The challenge is you got to get in a car, your team of four. It was me, Max, Kadek, and Tate. You have to go to a drive-through, and you to say, I'll have exactly what the last person through the drive-through ordered. You have to go to as many restaurants as you can. The record is 15. It is a perfect challenge in the fact that you're just gambling every time you go through the drive-through. They have the first place we went to was taco Bell, and the person in front of us had one medium cheesy potatoes, and that was like hitting the jackpot. That's easy. But yeah, it ended with Max and I and everyone puking in the parking a lot in Glen Ellyn at 12: 30 at night. I was like, Why am I doing this? Why am I here? I was just puking up milkshake. But yeah, I think I have what... Max, do you have what you ate?

I have both of ours up.

All right, so read it.

Which one would you like me to read first? Big Cat.

You can read mine. That's fine. I started. We did it strategy-wise. It was like, you eat until you're full and then you pass it off. I started the challenge. Go ahead.

Big Cat ate. Talk about A crazy potatoes, Panera Mac and Cheese, Panera strawberries, banana smoothie, and a baguette. Steak and shake single burger, a steak and shake double burger, side of fries. Mcdonald's Caramel Frappe, a large Chick-fil-A cookies and cream milkshake, A large Sonic chocolate shake. Three quarters of a Wendy's chocolate Frosty, a quarter of a Duncan Mango, whatever the fuck that was.

That one hurt my chest.

And one attempt at a Raising Gaines lemonade.

I didn't even get it.

Where were getting the lemonade. Where was the original Doug Doug? Where's he from? I don't know. Because I feel like doing it in Chicago is expert level.

Yeah, we were thinking about going to Portillo's and we were like, Portillo's could fuck us. You could just get absolutely crushed by someone getting a couple of beefs.

You could do the Doug Doug challenge pretty easily, I would think, in Seattle or Los Angeles.

There are rules, though.

You go to the Midwest and they like their food.

Yeah, there are rules. You can only go one drink place. You can only go two dessert places. You have to go to a KFC. You can only repeat one place twice. But what happened to me is I got full, but no matter how full I am, I can always eat ice cream. So I just became... They were calling me the guzzler in the chat.

Yeah, it's like that video with rocks when they're like, This glass seems full, but then you pour the sand in and it fills up the cracks. That's you with food and milkshakes. Yeah, with milkshakes. You can just always pour the milkshakes.

I was full of food. I was full of food after the fourth restaurant. But the milkshakes, every time we'd get a milkshake, people are like, Oh, who's going to do it? I got it. Don't worry. And Max, what did you eat? Max, the KFC, when Max was like, There's so much chicken.

The KFC bucket was tough. I had to lead the KFC bucket, which was probably the most difficult meal of the night. But I'll just go with my full list. A Starbucks lemonade, a third of a McDonald's frappe, a half-pound Arby's beef, a five-piece bucket from KFC.

What's in that? Like two drumsticks.

Three drumsticks and two thighs. A spicy chicken deluxe sandwich with fries from... A spicy chicken deluxe sandwich with fries from Chick-fil-A, a half of a chocolate Frosty, a Duncan chocolate Long John donut, and one and a half White Castle double doubles.

Max, so the end of the night, we finished 15. 16 is the record. We go to Raising Canes. We love Raising Canes. As the guzzler, we split up. We're like, All right, we're going to We were in terrible shape. I was like, All right, I'm going to try to drink this lemonade. I'll let you know. As soon as I take a sip, I'll let you know if I can do this or not. I didn't even take a sip. Just the action of the straw hitting my lips, it was over. I puked, Katie puked, Tate puked. Max didn't puke because there was a cop watching us, and we thought the cop was going to pull us over and be like, You guys just puked seven gallons in a parking lot. You're under arrest, which is stupid in hindsight. What are you going to do? We all puked. We get back in the car to go home because once you puke, you're out. We're just sitting there. We're like, We could go to a McDonald's right now. We feel good. Max was getting so mad that he hadn't puked, that we had to pull over on the highway at 1: 00 in the morning for him to puke because he was like, This is bullshit.

You guys puked, and I didn't. It is funny, though.

If a cop sees five dudes puking in a parking lot, they would come up, they'd be like, Okay, suspicion of DUI. Then they give you a sobriety test, and you would probably failed just from being too full.

Yeah, well, my plan was if the cop came up to us, I've been like, Dude, open up the van. There was 15 fast food bags sitting in the van because we were saving them all. It was just, Yeah, I'm too old for this shit. But it was fun. It was one of those challenges that afterwards, Max, I don't know if you had the same feeling because it was held during it. But afterwards, I was like, part of me was like, maybe I just get rid of my family, leave my family, and just go in a van with the boys just eat all the time. That could be my new life.

It was a fun stream.

You know, too, we're going to have to do it again.

Yeah, at least a year.

At least a year. At least a year, but we're going to have to do it again. You could get screwed. If we had gone to TACO Bell and it was a party pack of tacos, we would have been out after the first one.

Yeah, the KFC one seems like it was tough. White Castle, what a twist on White Castle. You think that they're going to get the tiny little burgers and they get the double doubles.

Kadek ate a shitload of stuff, too. He was just house and things. The White Castle.

I have Kadek's list here, too.

All right, go ahead.

Yeah. Kadek had a Popeye's fish sandwich, five tenders, biscuit, red beans and rice, an Arby's chicken sandwich, large crinkle fry, three pieces of the KFC bucket, McDonald's third of a caramel frat, Diet Coke, Chick-fil-A fry, and three quarters of a mango refresher.

It was something. It was fun, but it was also torture because you're just stuck in a van just eating everything. We'll have to do it again, Max. We'll have to do it again. The Doug Doug challenge.

Yeah. I promised my mom I would never do it again, but I'm...

I feel like you do that with your mom weekly. Oh, yeah.

That's just like a weekly.

She thinks I'm going to die.

Also, the craziest move of the whole night was we were sitting in the van, and like I said, we were going shift. I started eating, and then I think Kadek went second. So Max had not had a bite of food. He was hungry. He was hungry. And he just started ripping farts in the back of the van. Had not had a piece of food.

Were you allowed to indulge in some extracurricular activities to make you more hungry? Nope.

Or you could have, I guess. Yeah, we didn't. I was smoking cigarettes.

That rocks. I said I would have puped immediately if I had a cigarette.

I just needed something to digest. I was so uncomfortable. My body was so uncomfortable. I felt like I had an ice cream coming out of my nose. My nose started to run from being full.

You got a I literally- from eating too much food?

I was blowing my nose. I was just like, This is crazy. I can't keep all the liquid inside.

I had to take a shit at a gas station at one point. No toilet paper. I had to use paper towels.

Yeah, it was a fun time. Tuning to Marshall After Dark. It is a very fun series. On Tuesday, PFT is going to be on the flight simulator, and I've heard some of the details, and it's very fun.

I believe Hank's going to be involved. I think we got 10 people. One very special guest that is coming in to participate in the flight Simulator, one of the most famous people in the field of aviation, I'd say, in the last 20 years.

Sully. You sick fuck.

Sully, if you want to join the stream, let me know. I'm going to crash so many times.

Also, we should say quickly, our friend Andy Isaac passed away today. Great dude, great internet guy, diehard Detroit, Michigan State fan. One of those ones where it's like, Hey, I think you treated something similar to PFT Just try to be nice to someone today. Be as nice to someone today as Andy was to everyone online, which is hard to do because the health site that is Twitter. But Andy was that every single day.

He was just the most positive person on the internet. He did it all after battling cancer for, I think, what, 15 years? It was a long time. Which is crazy. It battled back against him. He was not as healthy as he wanted to be in the last couple of years, but he was still the nicest guy ever, most positive guy ever. We had the chance to hang out with him a couple of times, and he's going to be missed. Yeah, fuck cancer. It sucks.

Fuck cancer. Very rare to have someone in the sports media world just be the most genuinely nice guy, and he was that.

He wanted to be successful.

Yeah.

He was successful while also being nice online. Yeah.

All right. Numbers, memes out. Three. I hope it's three so bad. Oh, my God. This would be incredible. We all just want it to be three, right?

Yeah.

I'll go 33. What other numbers does he pick? Pug, you're not on.

99 on Pug. Let me look up partofmyballs. Com. 28. What does memes usually do?

21.

I think he goes 33 when he can't get three. Let's see. Beams. Right?

He loves doing 77. Is his other one? No, no, no. Well, he's done 99, but we're not going to do that. 77.

Is this the other big one?

According to these stats, yes.

All right, so I'm doing 77.

Wait, wait. Pause. No, number 8 is his second. He's done that 11 times. Eight.

All right. Are you taking eight? Eight. All right. I'll take 77. Does anyone want to take 33?

I'll take 33.

All right.

83. Shit. You know what? Let's do one more. Let's just do one more for the boys. For the boys. Everyone... For the boys. 3. For the boys. Yeah, you may as well.

Memes has never picked 83.

Okay. I'll stick with 77.

I'll stick with 8.

Hank?

3.

33. 99, 10. 39. 36. I love you guys. You know what? For memes, because he's not here, let's rip a couple more. Let's just do a couple more.

I'll take eight.

All right. I'll take 77.

99, poop.

33. Is that what I was saying? Yeah.

Let's do two more.

Three. Three more. Let's do three more. 21. Memes would want us to do a bunch of them. 19. Memes loves This is his lottery ball machine, so I think we owe it to him to do at least a couple more. These all do count as official. All right. Numbers?

I'm going to do 11 this time.

I'll go with three.

I'll go 33.

I'll go seven. 21. No, I'll do eight. 99 pull. Let's do 8. 44.

14. It also would be awesome if Jack got it as well. If we got a three or if Jack got it, both would be great story lines for this. Shane, you've never gotten it? I've gotten it. Oh, you have? Yeah, I thought you did. Yeah, we got to do one more for me.

One more for me.

You know what? If one of us gets it, I feel like this is almost like also memes getting in.

Yeah. Almost. It won't count.

It's basically memes getting in.

You know what? Can I go three? Yeah, you can go three. Yeah, I'll go three.

I'll I'll go 17.

I'll do eight.

I'll do 11.

I'll go with 99 code. 33.

11? 11. Nice, Max.

Let's go, Max.

That counts.

Way to go, Max. That absolutely counts.

That counts.

Way to go, Max.

That's the thing about that.

Wait, you're sitting in Meme's chair. No.

I'm sitting Share all that.

Oh, man. You know what? I'll call him real quick and just let him know that his boy Max got it.

I'm so you believe it.

You really get this, Max.

Also for the stat for part of my balls, when they update it, all How many of those did we do? Six or seven? I think we did six. All six of those memes, it should count against Memes' record for not getting it right. Correct. Because he didn't get it right for any of those. All right.

Let's see. I hope his face is swollen.

Wait, I didn't FaceTime I'll FaceTime.

That's mean, Max.

That's really mean, Max.

He got his wisdom teeth out.

You're being mean to memes.

Obviously, it has to be swollen. He would make a joke be like, Your face is always swollen.

That's true. That's good memes, yeah.

Hey, memes. Hello. Hey, how are you doing? Hold on. I'm going to FaceTime you. Hey, memes. Oh, you look good. Yeah, it's a little swollen on this side. Yeah. Good Good news is... Well, you want the good news or the bad news? Who got it? Do you want the good news or the bad news? Give me the bad news. All right. Bad news is three didn't come up yet. Oh, okay. Yeah, which that's your number. Good news is, Max, who's sitting in your seat, got it. Oh, come on. Yeah, he did. Look. Eleven. He's sitting in your seat, so your seat technically got it, but you still haven't gotten it.

That's seat's gotten it twice.

I've gotten it three times now. Three times.

When is the seat gotten it twice? That seat got it for PFT. No, that doesn't count. No, no, no. That doesn't count. This is actually the first time your seat has ever picked the number and gotten the number.

Wait, Mims, are you saying that you're on the hot seat? Yeah, I guess. Yeah.

But I thought you wanted to know that Max got it, so that's pretty cool. Yeah, I'm happy that all you guys keep getting it. Yeah. It only took us six times to get a number today, but he did get it.

I'm happy for him.

Should we do one more?

Yeah, do one more of these.

One more of these. He can't participate, but he can watch.

Yeah, you can watch. You can't participate because you're not in the studio. All right, numbers. I'll go three.

I'll go 77.

I'll go 33.

I'll go 8. 21. 99.

Give me 45.

29. Nice try. You know what? Let's do one more. Let's do one more. One more.

Let meams pick one.

No, you could pick what you would pick. Okay. But it doesn't count. 33. Okay. That doesn't count, though. Does someone else want to pick 33? I'll pick 33. All right. Max has 33. Oh, come on. I'll take three.

I'll go eight.

99 points.

13.

Look at 8 before he's just lurking up there. It's hanging. It wanca.

I've never seen that. Oh, shit.

It's really wanca. Yeah.

Wait, we got multiple lurking up there.

Was that 50?

25.

25.

25. All right. We love you, Memes. We miss you. All right. See you.

Love you,

guys. Let's see.