Transcript of Eagles Head Coach Nick Sirianni, Dianna Russini, Matthew Stafford Staying In LA + We’ve Made It To March

Hey, Pardon My Take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcast, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's Pardon My Take, we have a twofer for the people, a little Italian twofer. We got Super Bowl champion, nick Siriani. Awesome interview with Coach. Then we have one of our favorite recurring guests, Diana Rossini, talking some football. We are going to talk some football because we had some news over the weekend. Matthew Stafford, Debo Samuel. We do a little national sports podcast talk as well. College basketball, it is March. We got Who's Back of the Week, and it's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. Who's scoring big in the NBA this season, you are with the all new way to get in on the action at DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NBA. Draftkings is the home of NBA player props, so you can get behind your favorite players any which way, from monster slams to dishing the rock to Clean in the glass. It's super easy for first-timers to get started. Try betting on something simple like picking an NBA player prop. Here's something special for first-timers.

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Ski trip didn't work out for Tom braided.

Ski trip did not work out. Well, it did work out for the rest of us because we got a reporter fight out of it. But yes, Matthew Stafford staying with the Rams, which I always thought made the most sense because the Rams were, you could make the argument, they played the Eagles the toughest in the playoff.

They almost won that game in the first quarter.

They had a really bad start to the season, but then they played great down the stretch. It feels like they still have a window with Matthew Stafford. I think it's a two-year deal.

I was listening to Kelly Stafford's podcast. Okay. And by listening to, I mean just anticipating what she would say. My guess is she probably didn't want to leave LA.

I would say so. And you're on Why would you, if you're Matthew Stafford, it never made sense, want to go to the Giants? No offense to the Giants, but the Giants aren't going to win a Super Bowl. The Rams could conceivably in the next two years, compete for a Super Bowl. It would be crazy to leave that situation. So, yeah, he's set, and now it's a question of where Aaron Rodgers will go.

Giants, readers. I've heard that he's trying to bring Devante with him again. So he has a wishlist. And I feel like if I were Aaron, I would just want to stay in New York and just go to the other locker room.

Yeah, run it back, get those solar panels on your house in New Jersey. Finally, get them fully installed.

Stretch your legs, lay down roots there. Yeah.

Then it feels like the Raiders might be in the Sam Darnold market from what everyone is saying.

I just love that there is a Sam Darnold market. We need a Sam Darnold market.

And the Steelers are just going to- Run it back with Russie. Run it back with Russie. And Kirk Cousin is going to be a backup. But this was the big because if Stafford had gone somewhere else, it would had a chain reaction down the line.

Now, a lot of people are saying, What are the Cowboys up to? Windhorse. What are the Cowboys up to? Because Jerry Jones, he likes to talk. Jerry loves him some media. He did not talk at the Combine this year. He did not address reporters, and apparently, everybody else from the Cowboys is being very quiet. So what's going on in Dallas right now?

Did you see the Dax- Ben DiNucci back? Dax Cap hit, I believe. They'll probably restructure it and kick the can down the road, but I think I saw Florio report that Dak's cap hit this year is $90 million. Dak Prescott's cap number for 2025 is set to be nearly $90 million. A restructuring could drop it as low as $51 million. They'll keep kicking the can until they inevitably take a massive cap hit after he's no longer on the team. $90 million. I don't understand the cap. That feels like a lot.

He took a pretty big cap in Panama City Beach. This one might be even bigger. Yes. $100 million is a lot of money to pay anyway. Again, if you're a Cowboys fan, you shouldn't really care. Whenever you see somebody be like, Oh, you overpaid for this guy, who cares? It's not your money. But if it runs into this situation where you're not able to pay anybody else.

Yeah, I would say if the team suffers for it, you should care. And this feels like $90 million. Again, they'll probably restructure it. You know what? Who's a Capologist that we can get on? We need to get a Capologist on the show. Just explain it all to us.

There's a guy, what's his name? Jason over the Cap. He runs over the Cap. Okay. I follow that guy online. He's good.

Oh, Breaking Moos. O. J. Simpson Moos.

O. J. Simpson. Yeah? Not in the memorial.

Oh, they didn't include him in the Oscars Memorial? He is punching air. Well, he's the only one who respects OJ.

Damn. We also had an AWL.

Okay. I almost could see the Oscars honoring OJ more than I could see Adam Schefter honoring him. Yeah. Because he was- He was in movies. Say what you want about him off the field, but on the silver screen, he was He was really good in Naked Gun. Yeah.

Way better person than he was actor.

Yes. No, he was a good actor.

He wasn't a good actor. He was an actor.

Did you see him try to put the glove on? That's true. Doesn't fit.

It's too small. That's true. Yeah, just a couple of jokes about a double murder.

When he said not guilty, somebody believed him.

Yeah. So, yeah, Cheftee, by the way, thanks to an AWL who found it, he did put Aaron Hernandez in the In Memorium Shefty tweet, which now has become It's the most important tweet I'm looking forward to this year.

If anybody on this show passed away, God forbid, they got to make Shefty sweet, right?

I think you and I would. I think Hank would.

I'm on the Christmas list.

Steven Chey would. Chey would for sure. I don't know if Max and Heims, we'd maybe have to put a little... We'd have to maybe text him and let him know.

I think Shefti would do it.

Hey, Max died. Ingrown toenail.

It is crazy that every time somebody dies, the first thing Adam Shefter does is he runs to the dock on his phone Yeah, he's got a death dock. Writes their name in. Death dock. Reverse hit list.

All right, so Stafford staying with the Rams. Pft, you got Debo Samuel. Got Debo. Big time.

Got Debo.

You got a little upset in the group chat this weekend. A little miscommunication.

A little Two in the group chat and hand up. I think I was seven beers deep at the bar on Saturday. I was watching some college basketball, watching some golf, and you had a couple of cocktails. And so the Debo news broke. I was pumped about the Debo news because I love watching Debo play football. I think he won our first ever award on part of my take for a guy who I like watching play football the most. Yeah. Debo is very fun to watch when he's in good shape. A lot of people were like, Oh, you got fat Debo. He's so fat. You're going to hate that fatty. First of all, number one, let's not fat shame people. This is not a James Harden situation. He looked a little slower last year. Yes, I agree. I may have even said at one point he was fat. Please don't look up the tapes. But if anybody has perfect information on Debo Samuel, it's Adam Peters, who I believe drafted Debo and worked around Debo for a long time in San Fran. He is now the GM of the Commanders. When I sat with him at the Combine, I told him, number one, if you need me to commit any felonies for the team, I'll do it.

I'll be the fall guy. I'm your guy for that. Number two, I trust you. If you like Debo, I trust your evaluation of Debo.

So then he was like, I got it.

He's like, Okay, I have the support of the fan base. No, but I think he does know more than anybody what Debo is like right now. He's 29 years old. It's not like he's He's super old.

Yeah, he's definitely on the wrong side of his career, but it doesn't matter because you're signing him. It's not like you're signing him for the next five years. You're signing him for this year. You just need him to be Debo for a year. The contract's big, but who cares if he's good for a year, it doesn't matter.

Yeah, fifth round pick.

Yeah, it would be one thing if you sign him and you're like, All right, new long term contract for Debo. Yeah, he probably has lost a step and he's not the same as he was, but it doesn't matter. You just need 85% of Debo for a year.

Yeah, I'm pumped to watch Debo.

What was the anger about?

The anger, so here, I'll read it to you guys. So PFT said, Fifth round pick, fleeced. Mims said, Cowboys traded fourth round for Mingo. Pft said, Okay, question mark. You traded a third to us for Dotson. Mims said, I'm not Max. I'm saying that's good. P. F. D. Said, I'm sorry. I saw the M, my bad. So Mims, Max. Then Max chimed in and said, We actually won a Super Bowl, though. So congrats on the offseason win. We'll take the actual ring. P. F. D. Said, It's a what have you done for me lately? Keep living in the past, Max. And Max said, Well, lately, I won a Super Bowl. You, on the other hand, lost in the conference Championship. P. F. D. Said, Last month, Max said, by a lot. Also, you want to take a look at those Miles-Garrett's next team's odds thing? Things are changing. And P. F. D. Said, Keep focusing on that ring. You already won the loser. So I guess Miles-Garrett.

I mean, let's be honest, Max has been milking this fucking Super Bowl for everything it's worth.

Yeah, he took a vacation, not on vacation week.

Kind of a loser move to celebrate winning a Super Bowl.

On to the next. We're about to talk to nick Seriani. I think my first question was like, Hey, dude, isn't it bullshit you have to be at the Combine? He's like, I've been working basically two days or a day after the parade. He's got a next man up mentality.

If I won a Super Bowl, I wouldn't even celebrate it. My celebration would end the second that the Super Bowl concludes.

No, Super Bowl Sunday. You get your Super Bowl Sunday. Midnight. Yeah, midnight.

Yeah, midnight. Yeah.

Midnight.

That's it. In whatever time. No parade. Midnight. I don't think I'd participate. I didn't go to parade. It's true. Yeah, but you've been just been talking about being a winner this whole time, Max. Yeah.

So Miles Garrett.

A month ago.

Max, are you going to get Miles Garrett?

I don't know. Things are changing. Things are changing. The commanders were the heavy favorites other than the other than the Browns.

No, the Browns were the heavy favorites. Correct.

But if you were to bet on any team other than Cleveland, it was Washington, and now it's Eagles and Washington have the same odds.

But no one's a heavy favorite?

No. Did Howie do it again or did Howie do it again? Howie could do it again. He could do it again.

I think what's happening here is the commanders and the Eagles both want Miles Garrett just as much to have him as much to keep him away from the other team in the division that wants him.

Do you think the Eagles are thinking about the commanders? Max? Sure.

Okay. That's all I ever wanted.

Yeah, I'll give you that. Have fun with Fat Debo.

All right. Okay, Max. Come on. You're the heaviest favorite on this podcast.

I'm not a favorite. I'm just heavy.

Obese.

Obese. You're an obese. That was from the Yack chat.

Yeah, the case race.

Obese. I do love watching Debo when he has the ball in his hands. I don't know if you can call Debo a number 2 receiver. I feel like he's a Swiss army slot.

He's just maximum violence.

Maximum violence. That's what I want.

He seeks violence.

You know You know what? He's a good blocker, too. That's very important.

Bubble screen merchant.

Bubble screen merchant, as some people would say. Maximum of violence or bubble screen merchant.

Shane told me he had the least separation in the entire NFL last year. I don't know if that's true, but Shane said it.

He's not a separation guy. He's married to the game. Yeah, he's a Yack guy.

Bubble screen.

There also is a theory that he could be unlocked now that he is out of Kyle Shanahan's offense because Kyle Shanahan did try to force the Rock to Debo a lot last year. There was a lot of times where it was like, they're just trying to get Debo going, and it doesn't seem like the correct strategy.

Yeah. What's the stat with Debo and the win-loss in terms of when he plays and when he doesn't play? They're 52 and 29 when Debo Samuel does play. I'm trying to figure out what they are without Debo. 8 and 11.

How many times is Trent Williams included in that?

This is a Debo Samuel stat. Okay.

Because there were a couple of times when Trent Williams and Debo were out, they would lose.

This is purely a Debo Samuel stat.

Just a Debo Samuel stat.

52 and 29 when Debo Samuel. It's pretty good. By the way, senior, he's had sex. Remember that. 52 and 29 when he plays and when he does not play, they are 8 and 11. That's a pretty big difference.

Okay. All right, so what else? Oh, Trey Smith got tagged, franchise tagged, so the Chiefs are keeping him, and then Kelsey officially, officially, is coming back. As for the combine, I had some winners and losers, and it's just based off of just tweets of the videos I saw. Loser, Will Howard. Did you see the cut up of him throwing passes? That was tough. Very mean, whoever did that to him. Will Howard also has nine-inch hands. That's tough. So does Cam Ward. Winner, Tyler Show, because he has nine and three-fourths-inch hands. Massive. Massive. Also winner, Jalen Millrow. Jalen Millrow at the Senior Bowl, he measured his hands, I think they were eight and three-fourths, and he grew a half an inch on his hands to the combine. So now he's nine and a quarter. I love that. That's huge. Loser, Isiah Bond, because he said he was going to maybe run a 4-1, and then he ran a 4-4, and he wasn't even the fastest Texas receiver. Matthew Golden ran a 4-3. I don't know who in Isaiah Bond's camp is telling him what to do because that's just simple, where you're putting the expectations, you got to go in and say, I don't know, I might run a 4-7, and then run a 4-4.

But damn, I'm way faster than I thought I was. Because 4-4 is not slow, but it's not 4-1, and it wasn't even close to the fastest A bad receiver.

He was calling out his... Sending his shot, being like, I'm going to be the fastest to ever do it. His former teammate, Xavierworthy, was way faster than him. Way faster. He posted something like, Respect those who came before you, young one. Yeah. All Also loser, Will Campbell.

And winner.

I have him as a loser because his arm length is 32 and five-eighth inches.

Yeah, there's a lot of arm length talk.

The general consensus for a tackle is 33 inches. So he's three-eighths of an inch away from having tackle length arms. And so some teams are like, got to move him to guard. I think the Patriots would be very happy to get him and put him a tackle.

I had him as a winner because he hurt himself early on in one of the drills and then powered through it and actually had a few A few of the drills he dominated. Absolutely dominated. He's going to be really, really fucking good. Yeah. He said, I think there was a quote. He was like, Go look at my tape of the couple of sacs I ever gave up. None of them had anything to do with arm length.

We're talking about three eighths of an inch here. Guys lie about that all the time.

Then I also had Tyler Warren has small hands and wing size, which I still would bet on him being a very good player, but loser.

How small?

His hands? I think it was 8 and three-fourths. Yeah, it's pretty small. Pretty small. And his wing size, shockingly small.

I have a winner.

Again, I think I would bet on Tyler Warren being a good pro.

Yeah. My winner, Mason Graham.

Yeah, smooth.

Because He said, I'm going to go to the combine, but I'm only going to do bench press. Which rocks. He's like, Fuck all this other shit. Just put me on the weights. Love that. Watch me move. Beast. Loser, Shador Sanders. His hat was three quarters of the way backwards when he dressed the media. So No cowards watching that like a hog.

Also winner, Mason Taylor, because he ran the line drill where you catch it, catch it, run straight across the field. It was actually beautiful to watch because his steps never deviated from the line. It was a perfect drill. So winner.

That's one of those drills when you see somebody who's smooth and who's an actual athlete run it, it looks like the easiest thing ever. Then when you watch one of us try to do it.

Well, I'd fall in my face. We already know that. Okay. Anything else from the NFL? I don't think so. I think that was pretty much it from the weekend. We have free agency starting soon. I think the franchise tag deadline is Tuesday. We're going to find out what the bangles are going to actually do.

Then legal tampering starts.

Then legal tampering starts.

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All right, National Sports Podcast, should we do a little? Let's do it.

This is March.

Yeah, this is March. You made Well, my first National Sports podcast note was Ovie. Ovie scored another goal. So shout out Ovi.

He did. And yeah, it was a nice goal. It wasn't your prototypical Ovi sitting up in the office, wasn't an empty netter. Nice little goal from the middle of the ice. A little rister.

Top Chetter. 11?

11 away. Is that what it is? I believe so. I think it's 11. It was either 11 or 12. Then yeah, goes over, daps up his son. I've got a new favorite Caps fan, though. Who? Tuna. Oh. Have Have you seen tuna? I have not seen Tuna. Bring Tuna's picture up on here. They showed this guy in the first period. Tuna fucking rocks. Okay. He's a kid, and he's wearing Pit Viper shades.

Max is 0 for 1 on searches.

And a hat that just says Tuna on it.

I just got the OV goal? Now we're just looking at a huge tuna.

Max, look up #Tuna.

This will work. This will definitely work.

It should.

There it is. Oh, there it is. Tuna.

Tuna. Love that. Doesn't tuna rock?

Just a kid named Tuna.

Yeah, big tuna. Love that. That's our new unofficial mascot right now.

Tuna. Okay, yeah, this is March, though. It is March. Big time. Had a great college basketball weekend. Hank, at what Let's just get this out of the way. At what point are you going to start fading? I have not lost in March yet, just so everyone knows. I'm 8-0 in bets. I assumed Hank faded me when I got to 5 or 6-0. When are you going to do it? Is it going to be Monday? Is it going to be tonight?

It might be.

It's going to be tonight. It might be. Okay. All right. I know you're so in my head about it that I know that when you do actually fade me, that will be when I lose.

I feel bad for this one, though. I think it might be too early. I might just stay away.

Okay. I think 8-0 is Pretty crazy. He knows. Haven't lost in March.

If I know Hank's troll brain, he's going to kick it in right during the conference championship tournament.

That's usually, yeah. I don't want to be in this spot for the entire month.

I did feel very stupid explaining to my wife that I was like, I might not lose a bet in March. She looked at me like, That's the dumbest thing you've ever said. I've said much dumber, but as of right now-But you haven't, yeah. I have not lost in March. So what if I don't lose in March?

Probably another global pandemic happened.

Yeah, probably another global pandemic. All right, so College Basketball, though, Saturday was awesome. Tennessee. That was such a good game. Buzzer beater, Nadeoats, all-time choke job. Just two timeouts, not calling a timeout when your team is getting a five-second call, taking his bigs out of the lineup on the free throw. Just choking it.

He lost that game more than Tennessee wanted.

He said it after. He's like, I was not good in the last 30 seconds of that game.

I have a question for you about Rick Barnes. Yeah. Is he on Ozempic?

I don't know.

He's getting skinnier.

I think that's just also what old people do.

He's just wasting away right now.

Old people just get skinny and they just waste away. That could be bad. We also had... No, He looks like normal Rick Barnes. He just looks old.

There were a couple of shots of him on the sideline when he was yelling at the refs, and he looked like a ghost. He looks old.

We also had Rick Patino, white suit, finally came back. They actually struggled a little bit, but they have clinched. They won the biggie East. Congrats to Coach Patino. The white suit looked awesome. They did a white out at the garden. Auburn is just really fucking good. That was my big... They went into Kentucky, and they whoped the shit out of Kentucky. A game that Cal would have lost.

They feel inevitable. Yeah.

Well, it's Auburn and Duke. I keep trying to figure out who else could win, and it's going to be Auburn and Duke.

I like Auburn, Duke. I'm going to put some money on St. John's and then Houston.

Houston and Bama.

Houston and Bama? Oh, you're going to be a Bama guy? You're going to be a Nate Oates guy?

I'm in.

Also, Kansas is very sad. Kansas lost the Texas Texas, who was a very good team, but then they had a controversy after a Kansas player posted. It was some fucked up things the fans were sending them. Then Bill Self had to release a statement basically saying, We're trying our best It just doesn't feel good for Kansas right now, which also speaks to how good Kansas is historically, because they are still a tournament team. They're probably a five seed, maybe a six. They have 11 losses, but it's still It's time in Lawrence where they're releasing statements and saying, This is really bad.

Right now, they're saying the last four are in Oklahoma, Indiana, Ohio State, Texas.

I'll say this, preselection Sunday. We don't know how the conference tournaments are going to go. Texas does not deserve to be in. They're bad. If Drake gets kept out instead of Texas, if Drake doesn't win their conference, I'll be very upset. The bubble is Some of these teams are just bad teams that because some of the smaller teams haven't had great seasons, I'll be very upset. I'm going to say right now, Drake deserves to be in no matter what. Absolutely deserves to be in no matter what. Texas got smoked by Georgia. That was the game they needed. All right, so they have Drake is a 12 seed right now. What do they have, Wisconsin at? Two or three? Three. Yeah, the Michigan State game was tough. Drake, Oregon. Michigan State's really good. First round. I also... Let's see. Oh, shout out Omaha, the team. I don't know if you guys have seen, but they've been doing these wrestling themes all throughout the season. It's very cool, just small-time basketball, getting some energy They did a...

What? Linardy.

Oh.

This was last updated February 28th.

That's crazy, Joe. Come on, Joe.

Come on. He doesn't like to do his job.

He's probably napping. He doesn't like to do his job. He only has one job. Can you find the Omaha video, though? They won the conference, and it was very funny because they had the Chancellor pop out of a garbage can with the belt. It was just a very funny visual because it's like a smaller Asian woman is the Chancellor, and she just pops out of a garbage can for them. They're what I love about college basketball, like these teams in the smaller conferences going on these awesome runs. They still obviously got to win to get in, but it's very fun. No, that's not it. All right.

So Lunardi, he did put out- Searched Chancellor. Updated Bracketology for Sunday, March second. Okay. Pre-game. This is before the games today.

Again, there were some consequential games. Michigan losing to Illinois. Look at this. Yeah. I love this.

That's awesome.

Omaha Chancellor popping out.

Yeah, so he did update it. It didn't get updated on the website, but he posted it on Twitter, and he says, The last four are in Georgia, Arkansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma now. Last four-end. First four out, Boise State, Xavier, UNC, and Texas. Texas is now out per Joe Linardi.

Okay, good. No offense, Texas. I've watched Texas play. The SEC is so deep that... What does Texas have? Five conference wins or something? That's the problem is we're getting to 12, 13, 14 teams in the SEC. It's like, All right, we got to stop at some point. Drake deserves. Again, Drake could just be in because they could win their tournament. But that will piss me off. If we have some of these teams that were really bad, but they were in a good conference, I don't need that.

People are upset that Oklahoma is one of the last four in. Why would you put Oklahoma in over Texas? I wouldn't.

I'd just kick them both out. Xavier should be in. Xavier has been playing hot. It will all work out. It will all work out. Yeah, look, they have Xavier in as a first four.

Nova, next four out.

I need Max to get all the way back in on Nova. I really need it.

They got the talent.

By the way, congratulations, PFT, on winning the Sun Belt.

Well, regular season. Pretty good. The second half of the season was a lot better than the first. Yeah. Looks like stradlin' got the boys rolling. But now we have the Sun Belt tournament, which is insane. Insane. The format of the tournament is the better you are in the regular season, that determines how many buys you get. So the one seed and the two seed, get an automatic buy all the way to the semifinals. If you're the last seeded team, you have to win seven games in a row against a bunch of teams that are fresh.

Yeah, it's going to be an awesome term. Also, congrats to South Alabama, Arkansas State, and Troy for winning the Sun Belt. It was funny watching all four teams, 30% of the League one.

See, I don't celebrate co-championships for my conference unlike you.

Well, I mean, four is a very funny visual. It is. It's a very funny I just didn't take my shirt off and paint my chest. You also took your shirt off.

When?

When we went to the Wisconsin game. I got caught up.

Yeah.

What are you talking about?

I got caught up in Bucky fever. You were right next to me doing the same thing.

I just thought it was funny. 30% is very funny. It was watching it, all of them post it. It's like, that's pretty cool. But yeah, the bracket is awesome.

The bracket for the Sun Belt tournament is going to rock. Then Hank, I guess we said it on the stream, myself and Hank are teamed up again for the Bracket Busters. Max is also involved. It would be a real shame if we picked against Wisconsin.

Do it. I'm pretty confident in their first round this year. They're not like last year where AJ Story- Or we just take the Dukes.

I was never picking against Wisconsin. Yeah, right. I was rolling with JMU.

That's fine.

But yeah, so I have zero happiness in my life.

There's the bracket right there. The bracket is just insane. I love this format.

It is insane. It's going to be great because we already started. I think there was a conference tournament game tonight. There We've already started conference tournament week. But I need Max back in. We need to get Max back in, all the way back in. The last thing I had for the National Sports podcast, can anyone make sense of the NBA debate, LeBron facing this league, future face of this league? Can anyone make sense of what's going on? Other than I don't understand. Here's what I don't understand. Anthony Edwards said he didn't want to be the face of this league. Anthony Edwards doesn't get to decide that. No.

We get to decide that.

Well, not only that, but when has there ever been a face of a league that didn't win? You have to win. You have to win a championship to be considered a face of this league. Obviously, if you win, that doesn't automatically mean you're the face of the league. Jokić could be the face of the league, but he doesn't like the media. You could make the argument, Tim Duncan won a lot. He was never the face of the league. I don't understand how Anthony Edwards saying, I don't want to be the face of the He's like, Dude, no one said you were. You haven't won anything yet.

Yeah. I mean, we don't really have a face of the league right now.

Well, it's the old guys.

Yeah. Is LeBron the face of the league?

Is LeBron in his stuff? I think if the Celtics win this year, then Tatum's Dylan Brown.

Fuck out of here, man. Come on now.

Oh, nice, Max. I see what you did there.

Hits you with the fuck out of here. He's playing the video right now. Do you want to talk about that at all, Hank?

Yeah, I don't know.

What happened for the listeners that don't know?

The Celtics They lost on Friday night. Porzingas wasn't playing, so they weren't fully healthy.

Wait, it says right here they were up 25 to three.

Yeah, I mean, everyone knows the NBA. A lead doesn't matter that much until probably four minutes left in the third quarter.

Jason Tatum said, Fuck out of here, man, after being up 25 to two.

Yeah, he did say, Get the fuck out of here.

Yeah, that's what you do. You want your face of the league to be cocky. You want them to say, Get the fuck out of here. But then you lost. They lost a regular season game. Actually, it's a regular season. Wake me up in the conference Championship. A fully healthy Celtic team is not losing the Cubs. It was an absolute ref show, but it's good. Missoula loves those games. He loves having things that he can use to motivate the team and losing to a team that's going to have a better record than them going into the playoffs like that. That's good. That was a good statement loss.

Yeah, it's like what Patino was saying, right? You want to have these things to motivate your guys. Yes.

Then they came out and beat the Nuggets.

So no issue. But, Hank, you could also make It's an argument that the Cavs are the one seed right now, correct? Correct. Wouldn't the Celtics already be taking them seriously because they're the one seed in the Celtics?

No, they're taking them seriously, but now they're really going to take them seriously.

Okay, serious leer. Yeah. Got it.

Also, Joan beats out for the year.

Yeah, he's the knee of the NBA.

I really need the Bulls not to make the play-in game. It's a race right now.

I was watching the Sixers Warriors game last night, just actively rooting for the Warriors. It's a weird place to be in, but you got to do it.

Have they said if they're going to break his hip or if they're going to do the normal knee surgery? Yeah, how are they going to do this?

He may never play again.

He might not walk again.

But he did get that MVP.

Yeah.

He's done so much for the city.

I think Payton Richard might be the face of the NBA.

He might be.

6, about to be 6.

But it's become a big story because LeBron, I don't understand. Then LeBron said the media, you wouldn't want to be the face of the lead because the media is so mean. I don't think the media is that mean to NBA players. I think Twitter is. The faceless Twitter trolls are. But the media, Shaq and Chuck, they do a show that busts on people. But I think the NFL has way more of a media microscope on their players.

I would agree. It's just that I think players in the NBA are addicted to reading all the hate online. Yeah. Just like, you should never log on. If you're LeBron James, you have nothing to gain by logging on.

It's very weird to me because LeBron talking about respecting the game and stuff. Listen, I think JJ Redick is doing a great job. He's a friend of the program. Jj Redick also did say that in the '50s and '60s, they were plumbers. He was part of that media at one point, but he also respects... I know he did a show that he was respecting the game a lot and how skilled these guys are. Lebron gets endless praise. I don't I don't understand why he is pretending like he's getting torn down all the time.

He does get shit on.

He gets shit on, but it's not like... Again, it's by idiots like me and idiots online. We don't mean anything.

So, yeah, I think trolls are the face of the NBA right now.

Yeah, he's basically saying the trolls run the show.

They run the league.

It's Barstool After Dark. The chat runs a stream.

I feel like NBA players, more so than any other athlete, they're just very, very unhappy.

It's crazy to me. I don't get it. The face of this league, again, you don't get to decide who's the face of this league. It's going to be whoever is a young, dynamic player who wins a title. Jason Tatum, you think he's got the aura?

Yeah. If you win back to back. Gets a final MVP in there. It's tough to argue. He's 27.

It's also just such a funny thing to say, who's the face of this league?

He might be the shoulders of this league.

He does have six shoulders.

Shouldn't you have to win an A Finals MVP?

Yeah. So like one minute ago, I just said that.

He said if he throws in an NBA Finals MVP.

What if Jalen Brown wins it?

Then is he the face of the league? Yes. Yeah. He wasn't even on Team USA.

Can you play the clip? Just because it keeps going. This discussion about face of this league has been happening pretty much nonstop for five days now, and all I can think about is Scottie Barnes, future face of thisFace of this League?

Giannis had like-Curran's Face of this league. Thirteen month span when he was the face of this league.

Yeah, he was. Scottie Barnes, future face of this league. People don't talk about this video as much as we talk about this video. No one talks about this video. I know, but the video is so good.

Let's find it.

It's the Raptors head coach, Coach Darko, talking about Scottie Barnes, future face of this league. But yeah, LeBron, I don't get it. Lebron has also done campaigns, like goat campaigns. He's actively trying to get people to be like, Hey, you're the goat. Goat status, yeah. To then turn it around and say the media is the problem.

That's why he's going to start his own league.

Yeah. He's just listening to the trolls too much.

Scottie Barnes is going to be all star.

He's going to be the face of this league. And what's happening over here during- Wait, he didn't say future face of the league. We made that part up.

Oh, Oh, no.

Oh, no.

He says face of this league.

He said future face of this league. He's going to be the face of this League.

He's going to be the face of this League? It's total crap.

Face of this league? Yeah, I don't NBA players are upset. Then, yeah, LeBron went on with SVP.

Prayer's up for SVP. That Maryland loss was tough on him.

Yeah, last week.

Right in his face.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, let's see who's Then we have nick Siriani. Is anything happening in the Oscars that we care about at all?

No.

Okay. Jerry O'Neill was there.

That was our Oscars recap. Good Oscars recap. Jerry O'Neill looks hot.

Yeah. No one got slapped.

How many of these movies have you seen? I haven't seen most of them, so I don't know.

Well, you saw Dune 2 two summers ago.

I saw-Yeah, Dune 2 came out in March 2024, for those wondering.

I saw A Complete Unkown, I saw Concave, and I saw Moana 2.

I don't think I saw any of them.

I think there was a new PAW Patrol movie. Yeah, I liked Conclave. I liked a Complete Unkown.

Brutalist won best original score. Should have been Dune 2, wasn't nominated somehow. Okay. Best movie score of all time. That makes no sense. Yeah. Oh, I'm still here. What's that? What's that? Best international feature.

What's that? What is that?

It's a movie.

About what? Who's still here?

Matt Stafford.

Okay. That's our Oscars recap. All right, let's do Who's Back in the Week. It's brought to you by our friends. It truly, truly unruly is the first high ABV hard seltzer that actually tastes good. Truly Unruly is a hard seltzer that breaks all the rules. Drinks light, parties hard with 8% ABV. It hits hard but still tastes amazing. It's the official hard seltzer. Pardon my take. Find Truly Unruly at a store near you, visit trulyhardceltzer. Com. Strawberry Smash, my absolute favorite. Trulyhardselter. Com. It's getting warm out. It's going to be golf season soon. So go right now, get your Truly Unruly. Let's get Unruly this summer. 8% of ABV, it hits hard but still tastes amazing. Hank, who's back of the week?

My who's back of the week is John Cina.

Yeah, I had it as well.

W-w-e. So he turned heel?

Saturday night, he turned heel. The golden boy, pretty boy of WW for his whole career.

Pretty fucked up to do the week that Jean Hackman died.

Why? That's a good point. Because he was a human being and his wife, and he just decided that, Oh, this is the week I'm going to do it.

Jean Hackman just died.

It's true. It was a great... I'm not watching WW every week, but a heel turn like this and just watching the wrestling community freak out about it can't beat it.

Because didn't he retire?

No, he's doing a retirement tour.

And he turned heel on his retirement tour. Correct.

So he said that he would never, ever turn heel. There was many chances for him to turn heel. And then in his retirement tour, going up to Russellmania, he has gone heel. Pretty crazy.

How did he go heel? Did he beat up Cody Rhodes? Yeah.

He's hugging Cody Rhodes.

Rock said, Hey, do it. Rock's also heel right now. It's awesome. I don't watch wrestling anymore, but I think about moments when I was a kid watching wrestling. When a good guy does turn heel, it is electric.

So is he going to change out the jorts for leather pants?

I don't know. You have to update the look.

They're saying this is the modern birth of the NWO.

Yeah, it's pretty cool. It was a shocking moment, and it makes Pennsylvania great. And Triple H is running basically, WW now, and it seems like he's doing a good job.

And didn't Travis Scott, like, smoke a blunt, put it out on somebody?

Travis Scott, like, punched the fuck out of Cody Roads. He actually punched Yeah.

Actually, I know people were saying, it's an all-time moment, and Travis Scott was there, which is confusing. I think it actually is funny because they were focused on Travis Scott being there saying, This makes no sense. Then you have the heel turn, which is shocking. It elevated the shock factor of it.

Yeah, I think the heel turn picture where it's Sina, the Rock, and Travis Scott, who's the biggest rapper in the world in the ring, that's legendary.

Awesome. This is awesome. This is quite a slap that Travis Scott put on him.

Dude, he fucking smoked him.

Is John Sina going to stop doing Make a Wish now? How deeply is he going to be committed to being the heel?

No, he's Team Cancer.

Okay.

Yeah. It's got to be. I mean, I would like to interview him again and just ask the same questions and see if he remembers. But yeah, Jean Hackman, upstaged by John cena turning heel. Rip. Rip, Jean Hackman. Awesome, awesome actor. Who's yours? Best. Crimson Tide. Okay, PFT?

My who's back is Hard Knocks. Hard Knocks offseason is coming back, but it's not going to be in the NFL because the Giants screwed that up last year. I don't think it... I think we predicted that on the show, which is that no front office is going to want to have every move they make documented so that when it doesn't work out, it gets thrown back in your face. So every team opted out. They couldn't find a team to do it. So instead, they're going to do it with Bill Belichick at UNC.

Tard Nox with UNC.

I don't know if that has legs.

You don't think that one- Tard Nox? T-a-r-d.

Tard Nox.

You don't like it? No. I like Tard Nox.

Are you pumped for this, Hank?

Very pumped. It's hilarious. The Bill Belichick College story is the gift that keeps on giving. It's like everything that he didn't want to do and didn't seem like he would ever do in the pros.

He's just doing all It's all of it.

You know how they always have some behind-the-scenes stuff on the coach? Like Matt Uberfluss got a haircut last year?

Yeah, that changed everything.

You think we're going to see Bill Belichick hanging out with his girlfriend? Like date night?

I would say definitely.

Date night with Bill and his lady? Yeah. For sure. I love that. Oh, yeah.

Jordan is going to be all over that.

Mike Tannenbaum, he's in the front office down there, right? Yeah. I imagine we'll get to see him a lot again.

No. Mike Lombardi.

Yeah, Lombardi. Mike Lombardi.

You're still thinking of Jean Hackman? World Tenet Bums.

Oh, yeah. World Tenet Bums.

Yeah. But, yeah, I'm actually excited to watch this. I want to see. It's going to be a giant commercial for UNC. That's the reason why he's doing it, obviously. It's smart. It's smart. It's very smart. You get a lot of publicity. Guys want to come play for you. It's going to be good to have Bill.

Great. He's going to be so grumpy. Yeah. So grumpy. Okay, I had John Sean as well. I guess I'll pivot to my second one. Daily Savings is back this Saturday, finally. Again, the later Sun on... What is it?

Spring back. Yeah.

We're finally going to have a little more light out at night. Golf time, ready to go. Wait, it actually is? Oh, fuck.

Sunday, March ninth. Shit.

I was going to say this is-We fucking missed it.

Damn it. Although- I was joking. I thought it was still another two weeks.

If you- Fuck. We're setting the clocks back, correct? Shit.

I swear to God, I thought that we had until the second or third week of March, and I was doing this. That might be it. Might be over. The joke might be over. I fucked up. What?

This actually might be the last time.

Yeah.

I feel like every single year, they say that they're taking away daylight season.

Yeah, it's just something that people like to say.

Why? It doesn't make sense.

Because it's easy to complain about. I'd be like, This sucks in the wintertime. Yeah. I think everybody agrees that it sucks. But then what was the thing?

I love it It would be worse if they got rid of it.

We'd actually lose. Over the summer, it would be bad. Yeah, we'd lose. I always was like, Let's not do it because I don't want it to go get dark at 4: 30. Someone said once, Well, what about kids going to school and pitch black? I was like, Good point. That's a fair point. Because if we didn't do it, it would stay light out till 5: 30 or 6: 00, but the sun wouldn't rise till 8: 00 AM, which would be fucked up if you had kids having to go to school in pitch black and walking on the streets, getting on busses and stuff.

If you're complaining about the clocks and how it works in the wintertime, what you're doing, you're just complaining about winter. You're just saying winter sucks. I wish this didn't happen.

Wait, so this rocks. We made it.

Yeah.

We're back. That's huge.

We're all the way back. I got pretty mad at you there because I was like, No, it's not.

Yeah, I know. Because I really did think that it was not even close. I thought it was halfway through March. That's huge. That's so huge. What are you doing? You're just looking at the weather, Max? I mean, I do it all the time. How are we looking? It was like 58 last week. But you know what? The sun was nice this weekend. What do we got next Tuesday? This is good. Our weather report.

43, the high of 62.

Oh, I'm seeing it's '40s and '50s. We can deal with 40. Anything in the 40s is fine. 40s feel tropical right now.

But once you see '60s, that's when it's golf weather.

Then it's on. Then it's fucking on.

Wait, is that- Chalamé lost best actor.

63 on March 11th. Put your circle it. That's going to be a day, boys.

Saturday for Patty's Day, rainy. That's ass.

When St. Patty's Day is beautiful, there's just really nothing better.

It's crazy, and I love it, that it seems like Chicago is harder for St. Patty's Day than Boston. It's the biggest day of the year.

It's also the end of winter.

I know. Yeah, in Boston. I know. It's crazy. It's like people go fucking nuts for St.

Patty's Day. You know what a sneaky good St. Patty's Day city is? Savannah, Georgia. Savannah, Georgia. Fire Department. Rocks the fuck out for St. Patty's Day. Yeah, I miss getting fucked up on St.

Patrick's Day.

Should I do it? Yeah, you should. I think I'm going to do it this year. I don't think so. And by getting fucked up, I'll probably start drinking at 8: 00 AM, and then I'll go home at 2: 30. Yeah. It's going to be awesome. Yeah. Just do it.

Just send the kids away.

I just leave food out for them.

It's fine. Put a Timer. It's fine. One of those cat food distributors.

We've got an issue in my house right now. There's an obsession with Max's butt. The Katz family loves Max's butt. It was because of the combine on Thursday, which I fell, and then I came home, and little kids just love any type of injury, and they just asked me a thousand questions about my knee. Then to get them distracted, I was like, Look, here's my buddy Max. His butt was hanging out, and now all they… My daughter literally was asking two days later, Can I see Max's butt? They're obsessed with his butt.

It'll come out again soon. Yeah.

Always does. Max is just a hit in my house. I've sent him the videos. There's just been a lot of discussion about Max's butt. I need to see Max's butt.

Just keep asking to see Max's butt. Can I see See Max's butt?

Can't see your daughter. Can't see Max's butt? I want to see Max's butt. It's something about my genetics. Just got to see Max's butt.

Yeah.

All right, let's do our interviews. We got nick Seriani, Diana Cine, and then we'll finish off with lottery balls.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very A very special guest. It is Super Bowl champion, head coach, nick Siriani from the Philadelphia Eagles. Does that sound good? Has that gotten old yet? No.

Never will.

My first question, actually, and You can be honest with us. I think it's bullshit that you have to go back to work only three weeks after winning the Super Bowl. I was thinking about it. You're an indie right now. You're doing work. Was there a part of you like... Me, personally, if I want a Super Bowl, I'd fuck off forever. I wouldn't get that hunger back. But how is it? It's bang, bang. The NFL schedule doesn't stop.

It started right away because we had some coaching turnover. This is not my first day back. We've been interviewing and trying to hire coaches and exit interviews with players, stuff like that. It takes what it takes. It takes what it takes. Obviously, we enjoyed ourselves. You saw the parade? Yeah. We enjoyed ourselves. We We enjoyed ourselves. We had some other nights that we enjoyed ourselves, but it's right back to work to try to go through the steps to put you in position to be able to do it again.

The exit interviews after winning Super Bowl have to kick ass. It's just people being like, Yeah, that was fucking awesome.

One of the One of the questions at the exit interviews is like, What do you think went well as a team? And so after the first three where they were like, Coach, I won the Super Bowl. I got it. So I rephrased the question, Besides winning the Super Bowl, what do you think went well as a team? Yeah. Yeah, those are good exit interviews, but I just love spending time with the guys and continuing the relationships and everything like that.

Okay, so be honest with this one, too. At what point during the Super Bowl, we were like, We got this. It's over. Because I know the coach speak. You can be like, You got to play 60 minutes. You never know it's Patrick Mahomes. But I mean, come on. Halfway through the third quarter, you're like, it's over.

We got this. In 2022, we were up 24-14 at half time, and they were getting the ball to come out of half, and they went down and scored. We were up 24-nothing at halftime there, and they were getting the ball coming out of half. And so we knew how important that drive was going to be. I think when we were up 40 to 6, I remember saying to our staff, I'm like, I think let's take the starters out. And one of the coaches was like, Coach, you sure? There was like six minutes left. And I go, Yes, I'm sure. We can take starters out right now. Let's get everybody in the game and let them all in all play. So I think it took a long time. That's a phenomenal team. We played with phenomenal coaches, phenomenal players, maybe one of the best players of all time on the other sideline. It wasn't until the fat lady sing, we knew at some point It was 40 to 6 with five minutes left to go, we could be there.

That was very nice of you, but you beat their fucking ass.

You did. It was an ass-kicking. It was an ass-kicking. You stopped them. It was great. Now that you're a couple of years removed from the first Super Bowl, I think you can say without it seeming like sour grapes or like you're complaining about it, but the grass, the sod father from the Chiefs, he fucked you out of that Super Bowl.

The whole time during the parade and really a couple of celebration. It really was the parade. I don't know. It's just the way it is sometimes. You're like, Man, I wish I'd have been able to do this in 2022. It was like you're enjoying it, and the parade was awesome, and the people of Philadelphia are unbelievable, and the celebration was great. Players, everything. But there are moments that you have when you have the beer in your hand, you got to point it over to the crowd like, Man, I wish I would have been able to go through this two years ago. We weren't. They to shoot us, and they had to play on that field, too. So I'll never give an excuse on that.

Can I tell you when I think you won the Super Bowl? When I was like, I think this is over? When you didn't cry during the National Antho. Was there any part of you that was like, this time, don't cry, because that was also when you lost the Super Bowl in 2022. It was like, dude, you can't cry during the national anthem. You got to save the tears for winning the Super Bowl. Was there a part of you in game prep where you're like, okay, I know they're going to sing this song, don't cry.

Practice is In front of the mirror, have Chris Stapleton last time singing it, and I just sit in front of the mirror and like, Don't cry.

You're stronger than that, nick.

Don't do it. Football is an emotional game. I would say it's just an emotional game and all the emotions. Yeah, maybe it was. You know what? I'll contribute it to that. Yeah, I love it.

They had a cryer, too. Chris Jones. He cries in the national anthem as well. I thought it would be just like an arms race. You guys would even cry harder this year.

Should they have to stand right next to each other, face to face, and just look and see who cried first? Yeah.

It was a great season for you guys. How much credit do you give to Big Dom versus how much credit do you give to shaving your head? Good question. How do you balance that?

So nobody in the NFL does their job as good as Dom does his. Let me brag on him for a second. Nobody wants to help people more. In a world that we live in, where there's so many people about themselves and this and that. That's what I loved about our team, too. We were a completely selfless team. No one cared how we won. They just wanted to win, which is really special. I wish people were talking about that more, especially in the world we live in today. Our guys wanted to sacrifice for each other and win for each other and be selfless with it. Well, that's how Dom lives every single day. He lives to help other... Dom in here? Yeah, he just wanted to. He lives to help other people do their job, and it's special. It takes special qualities. So that has way more effect on when I didn't have time to get a haircut on Friday when we normally get haircuts. And I'm like, You know what? My hair is a little long. I'm just going to do it myself. It didn't look great when I did it myself. So my assistant had to trim me up there.

My daughter, my wife hates when I do that. I do it in the summer every once in a while. My daughter, so my I know my wife hates it. And then my daughter said to my wife, Are you going to divorce Daddy now that it happens? I'm like, Whoa, she's seven. She didn't even know what that means. So obviously, she heard that from somebody else. I don't know what's going on here.

You have three kids, right? Three, yeah. Which Which one is your favorite human shield?

Well, if you look at when Howie got hit by the beer can during the parade, it whizzes by my wife. There's a couple of angles because it's like they have all very different You can imagine. I actually think I could make a montage of all the angles of the beer can hitting Howie in the head. There's one angle where it whizzes by my daughter and my wife, and it hits Howie. I'm like, You know what? Than Howie than my two beautiful girls.

It would have been bad because obviously, it was at the Cleveland game where you brought your kids to the podium.

That's where you're going with this.

Great move, by the way. I tip my hat to you. I have three kids. I know that, listen, I love my kids, but really, their purpose is, if I ever get in trouble, I'm just going to bring them around and be like, Look at my three kids.

It's so hard to win a game in the NFL. My moment was never to be like, I'm going to shield them from a tough question. We just won the game. Miles Garrett jumped over We were up what? 10: 00, and it was about to be 13: 00, nothing to have. He jumped over someone, blocked a kick, and they returned it for a time. It's hard to win. My whole thing there was like, Let's go celebrate to win. Some people in the media didn't take it that way. So I got it. So my wife said, no more kids up at the podium anyway.

This year was crazy for you because it started out, things seemed to be like they were a little bit rocky at the beginning, and then they turned around a little bit after that Saints game. Do you remember the ending of that Saints game? I think it was Dallas caught that long pass, where it really broke the game open. Did you feel like the season switched at that point?

No. Because the next week, I think it was the next week we got our butts kicked by Tampa. Okay. The butt That was a huge play, and it was an awesome play. As I remember it, we're third and 16. Jalen puts it perfect. We had perfect protection up front. We hadn't been doing much on offense. Defense was playing their butts off, and we haven't been doing much on offense all day. We get great protection up In front, Jalen delivers the ball perfectly. Jahaan Dotson gets Dallas Godder open. I think three of their guys ran into each other, and then Dallas went and ripped it. But it is plays like that that you're like, yeah. I think there's so many moments in the season, you're like, man, that play, that play, that play, that play. And that's what's cool about it. And there's teams that lost or didn't accomplish their goals they wanted to accomplish it, and they look, that play, that play, that play. It just makes you know how important the day in, day out work is so the breaks go your way. Yeah.

So we've defended the Push on this show. Thank you. I do have something. Thank you. And I say that as a Commander's fan, I am not going to complain my way out of getting my ass kicked. That's not how football should work, right? It's a football play. Other teams are free to use it if they want to. They're just not as good at it. I saw that you were assaulted by the fact that the packers are trying to get rid of the rule. You should feel complimented by that.

The compliment that I do feel from it is that it's stretched to every portion of football. It showed in college football, pro football, high school football, Peewee football. My son scored on it this year.

That would piss me off. If I had a son that was playing against your son and fucking Siriani's son is push-pushing on me, I'd be like, Yeah, get that play out of football. It's bad for the game.

Insulted because we work hard at that thing. It's automatic. Well, it's automatic because of the work that's put in and because of the players that we have that are performing it. It's not automatic throughout the entire league, right? It's Okay, well, Steph Curry shouldn't be allowed to shoot threes. Only in the fourth quarter can Steph Curry shoot three. What are we talking about? You can't just make a roll up because it's benefiting one team, and everywhere else, it's not quite as good. We saw it in One of the Championship games, one of the Championship games. One of the teams got stuffed on it and turnover and downs in the game over.

Yeah. It's also very funny because it's like, how do you stop the push-push? Don't let the Eagles get to fourth and two. There's three other downs, and you can stop them.

No It's good.

We've been putting a lot of respect on your name even before the Super Bowl, because it is like when you take a step back, I know Philly is a tough place to coach sometimes, but you guys, I think you have the highest winning percentage of any active head coach right now. Four years in the play two NFC Championship games, Super Bowl, and you've done it all coaching Italian. You're Italian. Is that hard where sometimes your anger, you want to bang on a pot and pan or just scream? That's got to be difficult. You're doing it all under the influence of Italian.

I think that's emotion, right? That's emotion, right? And that's what makes me unique. It's my emotion, and it's all Italian right there, no doubt. You just try to be who you are. Players see through that if they're not. So the emotion of the game, the anger at times, the celebrations at times, the talking with our hands at times, whether I'm talking to a referee, whether I'm talking to a player or whatever it is, I embrace that.

Do you think you have too many Italians? You have a lot of Italians.

We got a lot of Italians. Can you ever have too many Italians?

I don't It just gets combustible. There's so many Italians.

No. You got Fangio. Now we're coordinators. You got Fangio, you got Patulo, you got Seriani, you got Dom, and you got Michael Clay. Michael Klay is our special team coordinator.

So many Italians. There is one thing that pisses me off that you do, and I want to confront you face to face. As a football viewer, when you line up to go for two in the first half, try to get them jump off sides. They don't jump off sides. Then you call a timeout, then you kick the extra point anyways. As a fan of watching football on TV, that's a tough minute for me. You don't like it. I get Matt. It's because I think that there's about to be a play. There's no play.

You're excited for the play.

He's just going to kick Yeah. He used the time out.

Probably a smart football move. For you to notice it, I love that. I love that you noticed that that's what we were doing. Because it could be like, Oh, they just messed it. I don't think your average fan notices that that's going on. They're like, Oh, they didn't have the formation. They just bang the time out. It's very impressive. Did I change your opinion on it? No. I complimented you right there.

I appreciate the compliment. I think you're right that I'm a very insightful football fan. But it just delays. We get enough commercials already watching people.

I hear you. Point taken. Yeah.

So just think of the fans when you do that next time. It's mildly annoying to a casual football viewer.

This year, did you ever go to Saquon and be like, Hey, dude, can you just do that 60-yard run thing where you do?

Yeah, I think that's the game plan every week. It's like, yeah. It was- Remember when you jumped over the guy backwards? Can you do that again?

Do the countdown play real quick.

Do that again.

I mean, it was insane. Was there a moment where you were like, this is just not normal? It felt like every week, he'd just rip a long one.

Yeah. No, That's how it feels right there. I think the moment that... I love the reaction of our sideline when he jumped over that guy. I think we saw that every day at practice. We're not tackling full speed and jumping over guys, but you just see the freaky athletic ability that he has. Man, and I'll say this, what an unbelievable person. If you said, Saquon Barkley, go, the first thing that would come out of my mouth is, this guy's an unbelievable person. This guy's an unbelievable He's an unbelievable teammate. This guy's an unbelievable leader. He's an unbelievable worker. Then we could start talking about the plays that he makes. It's all those things that make him who he is.

You think he's a better human being than football player?

Yeah.

No, there's no chance. He's the best running back in the league. You think he's one of the best You think he's a top 100% human? Yes. Worldwide? No chance. Yes. No chance. He's better at football than he is in the league.

Yes. Take the sunglasses down. Yes. If I had sunglasses, I'd look him down. It's no offense to him, but he's one of the best football players in the world. That's what I'm saying. He's one of the best humans in the world.

Probably we're talking top 10 human beings in the entire world.

You're going to say he's a top 10 human being.

He's a top 10 football player in the world. Top 10. There's a lot of more people in the world than there is human beings. I'd say the top thousand human beings.

He's a better football player than human being.

You just admitted it.

Thank you. Point us.

He's awesome. Analytics.

He's awesome. What's it like knowing that at any given time, Howie could be working on something just insane that will make your life very complicated the next 24 hours?

Insane?

No matter who is available, who's not even available, I feel like Howie is always cooking something up.

Yeah, it's going to make my life The secret to good coaching is get good players. How he does a great job of that. So he's making my life easier and easier every move that he makes. It's awesome.

I guess just more exciting, maybe complicated is the right word, but you at any given time. He could surprise you with a present.

I love it. It's the best. It's the absolute best. He's the best GM. He is the best GM in the world. I have no doubt in my mind.

He is pretty damn good. The proof is in the pudding.

Do you want to get Max involved?

Well, let me ask you this. Coaching in Philadelphia is tough. I think it's pretty crazy the swings you've had where, like I said, you've been to the playhouse four years ago. You've gone to two Super Bowl's, one-one. But you were also... Some of the fan base had you on the hot seat at the beginning of the year. Some people in this room had you on the hot seat.

Who was it?

That would be Max. This is fake. You 100% had him on the hot seat.

Come on, that's not true.

There's no proof for that. Okay, so Max, we're in here and ask some questions. Also, let me ask you this. Yeah, Max, come on in here. Super After the Super Bowl, you guys go to the party, you're at the hotel. I would assume this is the pinnacle of your career. People are asking for pictures. You love taking pictures with people. That's a moment that like, Hey, this is what I want to do. Share it with the fans. Sure. Is that fair to say that you love taking pictures with people in that moment?

Would I love taking pictures with him?

In that moment.

Perfect answer.

I think it's the right thing to do. Okay. It's easy way to... Here's my opinion on it. When I got my son, do I love taking pictures? I wouldn't say I love taking pictures, but it's such an easy thing. It's such an easy thing to do to help somebody make their day or show gratitude to that person.

Let me phrase it a different way. It was an appropriate time for people to ask you for pictures.

Yeah. Now, I normally stop and take a picture with everybody. But with that mass, I had to keep going. So I'm sorry to anybody I didn't take a picture with.

No, you did. So you took a picture with Pug.

Did I ice somebody in this? I don't know.

Max thought he was like, I'm so much better than everyone. I'm not going to ruin this moment and ask for a picture.

Do you want to do a picture now?

You do it after, yeah.

I didn't ask for a picture because I was like, This is the best night of his life. I wanted you to enjoy the night and not get hounded by a bunch of pictures. So I felt out of respect.

He wants credit for that.

I don't want credit for that. Max, thanks. I just got ridiculed by everyone by not...

Wait a second, Max, you wanted me fired. So now, never mind.

That's not true. Yeah, you did. You had him on the hot seat. I didn't have them. Not fired, but you had hot seat.

You had your eye on Siriani.

People in Philly, sometimes we get over emotional and we say things that we don't mean.

Max is also very Italian. We actually are like the Eagles. We have our entire behind the scenes. You know who he look like?

Has he ever got Matt Patricia?

Oh, yeah.

He cosplays his Kelsey.

Yeah, he cosplays his Chelsea. A little Kelsey. A little Patricia. You guys see it?

Yeah. But we have all of our support staff is all Italian, so we're calling after the eagles.

Do you have too many Italians? We do have too many Italians.

I think we do.

Not enough.

But yeah, so Max is very Italian. He gets very emotional. He might have had you on the hot seat to start the season.

Sometimes you say things you don't mean. That's all. Okay, so go ahead. First question, going off of that, how does it feel now to be in this class of immortality in Philadelphia? Going into the year was obviously a little feisty with you and the Philly fans. Now, no matter what you do, you're automatically dramatically on the pantheon of all-time greats.

You know what I'd say about that? A couple of people have asked me, Why don't you get up and be like, Look at me, do something like that, right? I'm like, I'm actually grateful for... I know this is in the mood we're in right now because we're having fun, but I'm grateful for the criticism. I'm grateful for the adversity because it truly makes you... And I look back in my entire life, the adversity has made me who I am. I have no doubt in my mind that it would have been hard to win the Super Bowl this year if we didn't finish the season the way we did last year. I'm grateful for the adversity. I'm grateful for the criticism. The reason I'm grateful for the criticism is because I got three kids that I'm going to raise in this social media world that they're going to get criticized, and I'm going to have to be able to parent them in those scenarios. What a great opportunity I have and a great experience I have of what we went through with the light on the other side of the tunnel. Then also, we have a ton of players that get criticized.

I love Brandon Graham when he talks about how he was criticized so early in his career. He put his head down, he worked his butt off, he learned from the adversity, got better, and he has the 15 plus year career that he's had. And I love that. I love that. Now I'm able to share that, too, with guys. And so I'm grateful for it. It sucks when you're going through it, but grateful for it now.

Let's get back to some fun. Well, I would imagine it makes it sweeter. If everything's easy, then the great moments don't feel the same.

No doubt. What 50 Cent say in that one song, Pain Wouldn't Feel So Good?

I'll take you to the Candy Shop? It's your birthday.

No, I think it was, I'll take you to the Candy Shop. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Then they did that movie with Old School where they remade it. That's one of my favorite lines. By the way, another Italian has walked in.

Diana Rossini is here, so we're full of Italians. Yeah, this is a great room. We're close to having a Ricco act on this whole room. All right, Max, go.

Number one, that was great. I'm happy that you're in this moment now because Howie Roseman is another one that people really criticized him after the Jelen your Justin Jefferson thing.

Did you just say you? You criticized him.

You see this pattern here? Bg, myself, Howie. I know. It's good.

I'm happy Philadelphia has turned on people who deserve to be turned on for the better.

Are You're turned on.

This guy just loves to push my words. I try and say something right. Never works. All right, next question. Back to Italians. Is Kevin Patulo Italian? Because I'm seeing different reports.

What are you seeing?

A lot of people are saying that it's actually a Scottish name.

I just want to dismiss those rumors. If he's been lying to me for... I've been working with him for eight years. All right, all the way back to Indy. And then here, if he's been lying to me about being Italian for this long, he can't Who can hold a lie for that long if it's not? Because he's been lying to me for eight years if he has.

No, I love it.

He'd be like George Kistanza if he can hold a lie for that long.

I believe it. I just wanted the people of Philadelphia to know coming from you that he is Italian.

Dom Italian?

He's Italian. He's Italian. He's Italian. He's certainly got it. Stamped. Yeah, that's stamped.

Follow-up question to that. Let's get the boys fired up about Kevin Patula.

No questions on Fangio, though.

Well, obviously, I mean, Fangio is a cow.

His name's Vic Fangio.

We got another guy.

He's a nice faes on.

If you have a question about this guy, our one of our senior special team's assistant, Joe Penunzio. Any questions? Sounds like a great pie zone. No questions, right?

An excellent faizan. No, I know. I believed it. I just wanted the people to stop putting out these fake rumors.

Yeah, good. I'm glad I was able to clear that up.

But following up on Kevin Patulo, can we get the Eagles fans fired up? What's he going to bring to this offense?

Tell me about Kevin Petula. Kevin, I haven't made a decision over the the last five years, or really even going back to Indy, without the assistance of Kevin Patulo. And that's just in whether it's offense, whether it's head coaching, whether it's something to do with anything, he's the guy I lean into the most. And that's really, you talk to Shane Steik and you talk to Brian Johnson, you talk to Kelen Moore, they all say the same thing. This guy is a star, loves football, bleeds football, wants to do everything. Look at all the what the player said about him after he got hired in the endorsement that every one of them gave him. He's a special coach. When you have a coach that you can keep consistency and continuity in the building for your offense that can be promoted, you do that. We had a guy that was there ready to do it, and I'm excited about his opportunity. I want him to do so well that he gets job interviews next year but doesn't get them, but doesn't get the... Because I don't want to move on. And then I hope he does so well again that he gets those job interviews again, and he strikes out on being a head coach again.

And then maybe then the third year does so well again, misses out on it one more time, and then the fourth year of him being the coroner, then he goes.

That seems fair to me. Let's get Jim to some continuity.

That's a good plan.

All right, that's it. That's it for me. That's it for me.

Did you apologize for putting him on the hot seat?

He didn't actually I apologize. He said, That's just the way we are. It's like I yell at the rest. It's just the way.

No, I'm Italian. I'm sorry. I'm an emotional guy.

He said you're welcome.

Because you thank him for it.

Emotional guy.

I have a question for Max 12 months ago. Max, 12 months ago would ask you.

No, no, no. Come on.

This was a question that you had a year ago.

That's a different guy.

Yeah, but let's just ask you, what do you do during games? I just hang out.

He did ask that.

He's making this up.

You asked it.

I just hang out during games. High five people. That's what Max said. Yele at people, yell people, high five people. That's about it.

Yeah, flip off a guy in the stands.

That guy in the stands. I didn't do that.

He encouraged you, right? He was like, We got to run Saquon more. And you're like, I will. And then you did it.

And we did it. I'm like, Did you like that? He said, Yes. And I said, Okay. And then it became a little bit more of a topic than it was. Do you know that The guy actually called in and said he wasn't talking to the whole fan. He was talking to me and he was having fun with me, and nobody went with that story. I know. I'm sorry. The evils of the media. We'll listen to what we want to listen to and not put out some of the other stuff.

We definitely spread that you were yelling at a fan. Yeah, not me. Absolutely.

No, I think we did read it because I think he wrote online. He was like, Hey, this is me, the fan.

He was talking directly to me. That's what the guy said. I was talking directly to him, and I'm like, Nobody even went with it. The story It was written the way it wanted to be written, and that's where it went from there.

By the way, I think you misquoted Max. I think his quote was, What does he even do during the game?

I don't think that that's where that went at all. I think that they're making this up.

You got a Super Bowl. Yeah, no. These are the burdens of leadership. It's leadership is not always seen. It's not always seen. You know what? I know what I signed up for. I know that there's criticism that comes when you don't perform the way that you need to perform, and that's what we signed up for.

I also I also think when Max said that you're like, immortality, I would say-until we go three and out. One in four. Yeah, one in four. I think you're going to be back on Max's hot seat.

That's incorrect.

Well, the last time they told me about this when I first got here, they said, We won the Super Bowl in 2017. I'm like, Oh, yeah, I remember that. Then they were like, Well, the next year in 2018, we went three and out our first drive, and they were booing. It may have been, and I may be exaggerating it, and it also may have been, We didn't score any points at halftime, and they were booing. I'm like, shoot.

That's Philly.

You got to love it. You better score some points. You got to score some points. Don't go three and out.

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He's a stud. Yeah, he's a stud. And he's done an awesome job at Toledo. Jason and I were teammates. Jason and I were teammates. His senior year in 2001, in my sophomore year, it took me a look. It really was like my second. I had three more years after that because it took me some more time to graduate. Italian. Him and I were the starting receiver for the first two games I got hurt and I was out the rest of the year. But then Jason was my coach in 2002. In 2003, he was my receiver coach. Imagine the guy you drink a lot of beers with and hang out with a lot. Now he's yelling at you and telling you what to do and everything like that. But he's a great coach. Then fast forward to when I... Now I'm going into coaching, and and I take a job at Mount Union. Now, not only is he my roommate, because I'm going to live in his house, he's my roommate, he's my colleague, and he's my landlord because he's charging me money to live in a home. Listen to this. A lot of coaches lived in that.

There was about five coaches that Jason was making money off of all of us charging this rent. I got the room because they were all a year or two older than me, and I got the room that was in That was in the living room. It was connected to the dining room. I had a sheet for a little bit of privacy. No heat in that room. I had a space heater. I was still getting charged the same amount of rent as everybody else. Jason is your entrepreneur. There you have it. You said it.

Did he tip you off last year being like Quinian Mitchell?

Oh, yeah. He gave us great insight.

I just wanted to pump Jason Candle's tires because he's awesome.

He's awesome. He's a great coach. He's done a great job and really value his opinion on things and find myself checking in with him on what he would do in certain situations. I know he's come and watch us practice, and we share information and great relationship there. There and always proud to check his scores or watch his games. I don't shy away from telling people in the building, they don't see Mount Union scores. So I'm like, Hey, do you see Toledo? Yeah, that's my guy who won that game.

What is it about Mount Union that real football guys know? There's something special about that college when it comes to coaching?

We learned how to win there. And the coach that we all played for, Larry Kers, taught us how to win, taught us. And then the guys that came back in coach for him, taught us how to coach. In Jason's case, taught him how to take advantage of his tenants in his house with the heat, no heat, and everything like that. But no, he just taught us how to win and taught us how to coach and taught us everything that he had to offer us to get better as football coaches. How awesome is it for Coach Karris now to see Matt Campbell doing the things that he's doing at Iowa State and Jason doing the things that he's doing at Toledo, and then obviously us winning. He's got another guy here on the Colts that's the tight-end coach. He's got coaches everywhere that have either played for him and coached for him, both my brothers included, that he's touched our lives and helped us reach our goals.

Well, Coach, thank you so much. Also, congrats on the new contract. I don't think it's happened yet, but winning a Super Bowl right before a contract here. Good shit. It was a good move. That's some good shit.

That was a good move.

Yeah. Yeah, that's some good shit. I know that you've probably been like, That's pretty good. Yeah. But yeah, congrats on that. Congrats on all this success. And I appreciate you stopping by.

Yeah, thanks for having me. It was fun.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, our good friend, Diana Rossini, from The Athletic. You can listen to her podcast, Scoop City. Great podcast, by the way.

Have you ever listened to it?

You've never even been on it. Diane never seen any podcast. Where's the invite?

I've invited. Pfts come on. I've sent you numerous times.

Well, you did not send me an invite.

I never have. He wasn't very Good. My thought was, All right, I'm going to avoid these guys for a bit. Let them find their rhythm again, and then I'll invite Big Cat.

Wait, I wasn't very good on your podcast, your little pod?

Our downloads weren't very good.

That's fake.

You are a bad order. I'm going to boycott in solidarity Yeah, no.

What she did was-Well, I knew you guys were so nervous about us jumping you guys as the number one sports podcast on the planet.

Scoop City. Yeah, Scoop City. We're not. We don't even... A lion doesn't concern themselves as sheep. No. Yeah. All right, so, Diana, we're here at the Combine. What's the buzz? What's the biggest story right now at the combine?

The fact that you guys did not go out at all last night. That is the buzz. We're 40. Babies, you turned 40 and you lost all your stamina. That's fast. Texting with you guys like, No, go to bed. It's 8: 45.

No, I stayed up till 10: 00.

Also, I wanted on the record that I went home at 11: 00, but I didn't go to sleep till 1: 00 because I watched New Mexico lose and not cover till 1: 00. Fair.

I'm not 40 yet, so I don't know what that's going to feel like. But I'm learning that it hits you hard, huh? It comes at you quick.

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I had the community noted. I believed it. So wherever Aaron Rodgers lands, will the team let him do the Pat McAfee show, per your reporting?

I said that the Jets discussed with Aaron Rodgers what this year would look like if he stayed a jet. How are we going to do this Pat McAfee thing? We would really like you to cut back on a lot of this stuff, the distractions, so we could all be one, keep it all out, new chapter, new New York Jets. There was no ultimatum ever made. Aaron Rodgers is not in New York anymore because he can't do Pat McAfee. It was never that hard of a conversation. It was just, Look, I was giving the Jets credit through the whole thing of, how about them taking their team back? Hey, Aaron Rodgers, you haven't performed up to the level that we wanted you to.

You're mad in rating terms.

We've given you- Rick is very upset. We've given you every player, everyone that you want, and it's still not Good. We're going to start treating you the way everyone else should be treated. I think Rodgers appreciates that. I think he's the type of player where maybe it appears that he wants that special treatment. But he lives in a space of the best coaches lead by holding the best players accountable, and everyone gets that same treatment. I think that's what the Jets were trying to do. In the end, I think both sides were like, Yeah, no, this isn't going to work. Not just because of that. I think there's a series of reasons.

What about Miles Garrett? What are you hearing with him?

Yeah. Look, Cleveland is yelling from the rooftop. We are not moving him, but we've seen this a million times. They say that now, but I think when we get closer to the draft, we'll see some movement. I think Philly is going to try to go hard here. I think Howie is going to make some decisions here in free agency and determine who he can live without. I think some of these guys that are up, he's going to be comfortable walking away from, despite the fact they obviously just had so much success with this roster. But I think you make those moves and you take a big swing for someone like Miles Garrett, and Howie will tell you, and I'm sure nick said it, too, when he spoke to you guys, they build their team through their lines. What better ends than bringing a Miles Garrett?

Yeah. Was this the first year that you had an MVP vote?

It was my second year. The second year. It was the first year it was revealed. Yeah. And I did not know that. And I was out to dinner, and my phone was blowing up with people in football, very angry that I voted for people the goal that I voted for. So that stunk. I wish I knew that because I think it- Would it have changed your vote? It would not have changed my vote, but I love Josh Allen, and I am avoiding him for a really long time. Not as much as I do. For a really long time. I'm well aware.

I was really thinking about from winning the MVP?

I feel like I have to apologize. I still believe my vote was right. I was looking at it differently than I think the other voters were. I felt like there were games in which the defense in Buffalo helped Josh more in winning those games, where I felt like Lamar had to do it more on his own because he didn't have that type of defense this year. That was how I viewed it. Look, there were days I woke up and I thought it was Josh. There were days I woke up and I thought it was Lamar. I stressed about it. But in the end, I did vote for Lamar.

You told me, I believe it was the Tuesday of Super Bowl week, Lamar Jackson, 100% winning MVP. You knew that I had a future on Lamar to win that MVP. Correct. You said 100%, don't worry about it. It's already done. That was very mean.

Yeah. I purposely lied to you because I knew how much you had on that. I thought it would be fun to play games with you there. That's very funny. How did that turn out?

It was not ideal.

All I have to say, the excitement in your face when I told you that Lamar was winning that whole thing, you're like, Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You were shaking. You're freaking out about it.

I mean, winning a big bet in New Orleans, it's going to be fun. Yeah. I was just excited to have fun that week.

How did you guys do in New Orleans? Just on all your bets?

Egals won the Super Bowl.

It's pretty good. I made money the Super Bowl, which is rare.

Did you go to the casino?

No. Did not go to the casino.

You guys killed at the casino in Vegas. Yeah, we did. Remember you guys were posting photos of all these? That was a little gross actually.

It was showing off. Do you like New Orleans as a Super Bowl city?

It was unbelievable. It was very fun. I've done 12 Super Bowl. That was the best Super Bowl I've ever been to. Everything, from just the logistics, the excitement, there was something to do everywhere. You didn't need a plan. You could just go anywhere, and it was fun. I just thought the fact that the Eagles just absolutely destroy the Chiefs, the celebration afterwards was one of the best post-games I've ever covered to in any sport. Obviously, I saw Saquan going beserk. I've never seen him like that, ever. Even in some, he said success, obviously, in his career. It meant so much to him. I think it was such a, yes, I knew I was this guy despite the fact that New York didn't think I was. Yeah.

You felt it. Vindication. Question for you, personally, you left ESPN. I feel like the bet has paid off. How is it going? That's a scary thing for a lot of people to leave ESPN because it is the mothership and all that stuff, and you've been crushing it in your new role at The Athletic and your podcast. Do you look back and you're like, That was an awesome decision by me because it takes balls. To make that jump, it does.

Thank you. Yeah, it was hard. You guys, you knew what was going on with me on the mental side of it. It was hard to say, I love my job. I love ESPN. I was having success there, but I felt like I needed to go somewhere to challenge myself. This job is so much harder than what I was doing on TV. It's not even close. To have to write what you know and the written word compared to what you can say in TV, I just feel like it lasts forever. Once you collect that information and you put your name on it and it never goes away, I'm proud of it, but it's definitely challenging. I'm getting exactly what I wanted. I can tell you that.

You're a columnist. I am. It's big, and your column comes out Saturday, which great job figuring that out. Good job putting out your column one day before everybody else. That is so funny that you say that way.

Very smart. You think I planned it that way. I did not. I was doing it on Sunday, and It wasn't really getting much traction because Adam and Ian, they're so great at what they do. They were putting out news, and I was putting out the same stuff. I was like, Why are people going to read my column if they've already seen it on TV? I was trying to, one weekend, just get ahead of stuff because I wanted to go to an actual game on Sunday. I was like, Why don't we just publish this on Saturday? I just threw it out there thinking it wouldn't really result in anything. It was the best decision I made because I got ahead of the news cycle. Whereas Saturday, I can put out all the stuff about the games. Obviously, people want to hear it and read it.

Yeah. So it comes out Saturday. When you write it, do you write it Friday night?

Yeah, I write it like, midnight sometimes. That sucks. No, my Friday nights are horrendous. I remember you used to write a On Monday?

On Monday, yeah. Monday morning.

Remember that stress you used to have writing that?

It takes a long time to write. Yeah.

Okay. I think there's a little difference in what you're writing about.

No, my shit was good.

No, it was good, but it wasn't Journalism.

Yeah. No, I broke some news, but yeah, that's fair.

It's stressful when you're putting information out that you know is going to piss people off, too. Because that's the other part of this is when you report stuff, I think people just take the information and run. The rest of my day is filled with taking calls from agents, players, PR people. Hey, I didn't like the tone of that. What do you mean by this? Even when I write glowing reports about teams or a coach or a player, someone's always mad. So I publish Saturday morning at 10: 00 AM. I spend my whole day dealing with the memes of the world.

He's right there. Someone's always mad. He's right there.

I can feel it. Memes, why are you so angry?

Memes, get out of here. Let's go. Why are you angry? Why are you angry? You have a lot of hate in your heart.

Let it out. Let's go. He's got a document ready to go on his phone.

Oh, nice.

The group chat is angry.

The group chat is angry.

He's going to ask questions. You pissed off the chat from him.

The text from Jack Mac said, You did report the ultimatum.

No, I didn't. I never said the word ultimatum.

She did report that.

You can write back here. Take a video of me. Ready? I didn't report that. Listen to Scoop City. Hi. What's his name?

Jack Mac.

Inventor of Scoop City. Jack Mac. Jack Mac? Yeah, he actually invented Scoop City. You stole the name from him.

Oh, he was the one with the original-With the TikTok. Jack, I'm so sorry, I took the name. Either way, the Jets never made it an ultimatum, and I never reported that. I'm sorry you took it that way. And who cares at this point?

Oh, Jets fans care.

Jets fans care a lot. Here's the thing with memes. You can look up and see if she used the word ultimatum.

You can listen to the podcast and you can read my article and you can see what it says.

Now, reading a headline and basing all your facts on that is actually the correct way to do it. So memes, what do you have? Let's get it. Here's my question.

Why are you guys on such a hunt to find out or discover Or if my reporting is wrong? It's never been inaccurate. Not one thing I've ever reported about the New York Jets has been wrong.

Well, I think your reports, the problem is the aggregators take your report and the way you word your report, make it seem like you're coming directly after the Jets.

Feelings are hurt.

Is your problem with the aggregators?

We don't really have a beef.

No, she is Dove Kleinman also. That's her all pick up.

She's ML football. So what's your beef, Memes?

The Ultimatum.

That's my beef right now. What else? Did the Madden stuff bother you? The what stuff? The Madden stuff?

No. Well, yes, because the Ravens also use Madden rating.

Oh, okay. So you should have put that in there.

I didn't criticize it. I didn't have an opinion about it. I just said, here's the facts.

You had the report that got it out there. They were like, Hey, we have an 18-year-old running the team, which is a problem.

But So again, your problem is not with her or her reporting.

It's the fact that she reported something. The fact that she's reporting it. There's 31 other teams.

Let's be even with it.

So you want dysfunction on it on every other team? You want me to go find that?

There's dysfunction everywhere.

Not as much as in New York. Look, I think... He's so mad. Oh my gosh, I broke your heart. I didn't mean it that way. Look, I think things are going to get better. How about the fact that Woody Johnson came out and said, I need to be a better owner? I thought that was awesome. That was self-awareness. I don't think the article caused that. I think he's looking at his body of work going as an owner. This isn't good. This isn't good at all.

He got a F today. But if your reporting helps get Woody Johnson out, that's fine. What else can I do? But if you're taking down the new leadership, the head coach- I can't win with you.

That's what I realized.

No, he's going to be mad at you. I think it's really just like, Don't shoot the messenger, shoot the message. He's just going to shoot the messenger every time.

I represent the stuff that bothers you. I don't want to. You realize I love the Jets. I grew up a Jets fan.

No, you hate the Jets.

I don't hate the Jets.

I don't know what the Jets ever did to you, but you hate the Jets.

All right, so Memes, do you have anything else besides the Ultimatum that Is this bothering you right now? No.

We could be friends if you're reporting gets Woody Johnson out.

Okay, so there you go. You've got your mission.

No, I'm good there. I don't want to be friends. I just want to be cool. I feel like there's just so much tension between us. Because Max and I used to to have a little tension because of our situation, but we've now worked past that.

That reporting could have been a lie.

Now, it's all called into question.

I think that reporting was incredible.

Wait, you are questioning my-We don't have to talk about that report.

That reporting is fine.

We are not going through this again.

We are not going through this again, but I can tell you-Standby. I will stand by that one for a long time.

I also stand by that reporting. That's a fact.

What if she just reports occasionally better stories about the Jets.

That could work.

What if you guys win games?

It's a start.

That could also work.

If you go through a season where you fire a coach without a plan in place to replace him, and then the guy that you used to replace him, his unit goes to shit, and then your quarterback has the most drama-filled year ever, where he's talking about running for vice president.

I feel like-He didn't talk about that. You talked about that. You were the first person to bring that story in.

I was the first person to report it, but it was true. You said you heard it. But it was true.

Dan, I wrote some stuff about the bears.

Yeah.

How did... Did you have me-They're a dumpster fire. Did you call me like, I hate you?

No, they're a dumpster fire. No, it's usually... I actually appreciate reporters because they bring to light things that should be brought to light. It's like, when there's a problem, I want it reported so that they can be embarrassed by that problem.

That's what I thought fans wanted as well. I thought that type of reporting and journalism was something that was missing because there's not a lot of outlets that are doing that type of reporting anymore. Correct. But I found in New York, the fans actually don't want to know. They don't want to just say it's awesome.

You would rather... The fact that the brick Johnson playing Madden as the Shadow GM, that's a good story to come out because then the Jets might look in the mirror and be like, Oh, shit, this is stupid.

We should stop doing this.

If Diana doesn't report that, they just can keep doing that and no one will ever know.

But did you hear what I said that the Ravens do that and they're one of the best organizations?

Except the raid in Madden The Madden ratings are looked at by the adult general manager, not the child of the owner.

A very important distinction. Which we stand by Brick.

Brick is great. Brick is our guy. I hope Brick turns out to be an awesome owner. We'll see. He's getting his feet wet.

Yeah. What are some story lines that you're working on this week besides Miles Garrett, Matt Stafford?

Well, the receiver market, the whole bangles situation. How are they going to pay all these guys?

I have It's not a prediction. This is bold. But if they franchise, tag T. Higgins, I think maybe the ham string injury might crop up once or twice next season. Yeah.

He doesn't want to be tagged. They came out publicly and said, what I've been hearing is that they do want to work on a long term deal. But I can tell you, teams that are interested in Tee are operating like, he's not leaving Cincinnati. Most of the league thinks he's going to get tagged in the end, as you said, but I don't think that's going to be the good play. But I just have a hard time doing the math path of how this can all work, of how they can bring all these guys back when they're claiming it's going to be done soon, too. If they do, that's awesome. I'm keeping an eye on that one. And then just Kansas City. We saw what the Eagles did to them. They got to get better on the offensive line. They're trying to get Trey Smith done. I think he was going to hit free agency, too. But then they saw what happened to Patrick in the game, and they're like, Shit, we probably need to bring him back. I like this idea that the Chiefs are going to revamp here and try to fix it the way they did after Tampa because it looked almost identical.

I felt that same panic. I think we saw it in Patrick, right? After the second play, it was like, this is not the normal chill Mahomes with some time. He sees the problem, Jalen Carter.

Right. So is there a team that you talk to and you're impressed and being like, maybe they haven't taken that step and been a playoff team or a Super Bowl contender, but you're like, They're doing things the correct way, and it's coming.

It's important, too, because to differentiate, because I think a lot of teams talk about what they want to do, and those that are actually doing it. I think the Denver Broncos are on their way. I think Sean Payton has got one of the best grips on a team. He's so good at knowing what's best for them. He's hard. You go to their practices, they're brutal to watch. He's a little bit like Andy, where they just go hard all summer. But just the fact that he hit on Bo'Nicks, and they're just going to to continue to build around them, and they've got him on a young rookie deal, and they've got a little swag to them. They want to compete. They want to play the Chiefs. I'd say they're a team in New England right now. I'm probably most excited to see what they're going to do. This is a gigantic offseason for the New England Patriots for the future. I don't think they're going to be that great next year. I think they'll probably win seven, eight games. Well, actually, that's probably good, considering where they came from or where they were last year. But I think it's 26, where I think that's where they're going to be contenders.

They're going to be guys that are going to have giving Josh Allen a problem.

What are you hearing about the draft in terms of there are teams that are You expect to be aggressive, possibly moving around, possibly trading up. It's a weird draft because it doesn't feel like teams are totally sold on both quarterbacks, but we know that both quarterbacks are going to get drafted really high because that's just how it goes. But how are teams approaching it? I know.

It's funny. It's that idea of you don't go to the grocery store hungry, right? I always do.

I always do, too.

Every single time. It's the worst. Why else are you going to the grocery store?

Then I start eating when I'm at the grocery store.

I need seven types of Oreos.

I was going to say, why do you always crave weird stuff when you go to the grocery store? I'm like, I'm eating Twizzlers, but I really want an eggnog, I think. It's like, that makes no sense.

Well, that might be because you're pregnant. Not right now, but you were. Do you crave an eggnog?

I see Dan last night and he goes, he's right... By the way, what an observation by you.

I got to eye for that.

Because I walked up to the table drinking water, which I guess in Indy, nobody's drinking water, and I'm definitely never drinking water. But I was like, I need to take a break. I've been going so hard from New Orleans to now. I need one hour, and I just happened to see you when I had that water, and you gave me that look. You looked in my soul like, You went for three, you psycho.

There is context because we have discussed the difference between two and three and how much it changes everything. So I was like, Oh, she did it.

I can't do it. Physically, mentally, my husband is the happiest I have ever seen him right now because of the Eagles winning. I don't want to rock the boat. I don't want to shake things up in my house because It was- Good vibes. You guys know how it is. I'm on the road. I got the two little guys back at home. Kev hasn't even texted me one thing since I've been here. No, actually, he did. He asked me about something with Jalen Carter, just a stupid football question. But no, I love it.

He just uses you as anything eagles.

Oh, constantly. But in terms of the happiness, the joy in our home right now is better than it has ever been. It wasn't like this after we got married, not after Mikey, not after Joey. It is so good. We got to squeeze this thing out. It's eagles.

Every time I see Howie, I just hug him.

You saved my marriage. Things were so rough right there. It's just when I wasn't too sure what they were going to be. Yeah, when Max had Seriani in the hot seat.

Max had Seriani.

I was doing the same thing because there were people around the league looking at it the way I think the fans were looking at it, which is with all of this talent and all the pieces that Howie has put to assemble this championship team, the coach can't be the reason this doesn't happen. Credit to Seriani for, I think, growing in all of this. It even sounds like he's grown from it. He was tremendous. He talked to me right after they won, right on the field. He was so reflective of just owning that it hasn't been perfect. I love that about him. I'm like, Yeah, I wasn't good. I was too emotional.

Wait, so we went on a tangent, back to the question, who's going to be aggressive?

I think the Giants are going to try to get up to trade out with the Titans. I think they're going to be aggressive in this. They're obviously also keeping their eye on Stafford. Tennessee is open for business. I think the approach that they are going to have headed into this is we need to get some pics. We need to continue to build because they were the worst team in football last year. After having a free agency spending, they went crazy bringing in players, but they didn't really find any pillars. They didn't find any blocks that they were to use to continue to get better in the future. That's really where I'm keeping my eye on. I think the Raiders are going to be making moves. I have my eye on them outside the staff for thing, as I mentioned before. Tom braided has a lot of influence on what's going on there, and he wants to shake it up there. They want to do it that way. We'll see what happens. Max Crosby is obviously a player that tons of teams are interested in if he'd be made available. But I think braided is smart enough to know you don't move a guy like Max Crosby.

Yeah.

What's up with his contract? Isn't it? It's non-guaranteed. He's got two years left, no guaranteed money.

They keep saying that they're going to be extending him or at least working on it, but until you have a deal. It's like, so you're out of it. Until you have a deal, you don't have a deal. I think his situation is different than Miles, Gary. Miles wants to get paid, of course. He wants to be paid the highest in that position, but he really wants to win. He's got this attitude. It's not happening here in Cleveland. I don't like her plan, and I think we could all agree that the plan is not great. I don't even know what they're going to do in terms of quarterback here. I think they're going to wind up drafting one, probably. That's definitely on the table for them. They poked around on the Stafford stuff a little, but they're not as aggressive as the Giants and the Raiders at this point. But I think for Max, he just wants to win, too. But he's going to get paid.

Do you miss at all the Sunday morning routine of going- Of freezing water? Yeah, that was an all-time clip. Love that when you were like, look how cold it is in Foxborough. You turned the water upside down and it was cold water. You didn't point out that it was cold water. You were just like, oh, it's still liquid, but it was really cold.

I know it doesn't shock you guys because you know me for so long, but my dad said this to me once. He's like, you're the smartest dumb person I know. I have moments where I think that's a great place to be.

That's a good place to be. I can be really good. It's way better than-You're actually like that.

You are the poster child.

Yeah, it's a great spot.

You have some brilliant... Just you're a talented human being, and you say things. But I'm dumb. But I've heard you say things where I'm like, Dad is dumb.

Well, because you never know. You can keep people on their toes. We did a Pope watch on Monday, and people were like, Dude, you just said a bunch of St. Louis Cardinal's prospects. I was like, I did that on purpose, but I also could have made a mistake. Kind of never know.

It is a good way to keep people ready or unready for what you got.

A team we haven't talked about in a while, I feel like, the Cowboys. Was the league shocked when they went with Brian Schoenheimer in that entire coaching search? Because it didn't feel like they did a coaching search.

I'd heard they did a little bit. I'd heard that they did some backdoor stuff. They weren't sure they were really going to move on from Mike. Let's start there. There was obviously not some big plan because most of these teams know, All right, we're firing this guy. Let's start putting the feelers out. Let's meet and think about what it is that we're looking for in this next head coach. But I think for Dallas, they weren't sure how that was going to go with Mike. I think they thought he'd stay. I thought that they'd be able to knock out a contract. They obviously were not able to do that after having conversations with him. At the time, Belichick was already doing the North Carolina thing. I'd heard that Dallas had some feelers out to him. If that's their search, it probably could have been better. They probably could have gotten more opportunities with other coaches if they made the call earlier. You could be critical of that. Yeah, it felt clunky. Very clunky. I can tell you, though, from the perspective of the Dallas Cowboys, Brian Schontenheimer had to be a piece of it. Whether that meant head coach, OC, they were not parting ways of Brian Schontenheimer.

Yeah, surprise that he's the head coach, but not a surprise knowing that that was part of the formula for what they wanted in next.

Right. They also had a phone call to Deion Sanders. Yeah. You talk to Jerry Jones, talk to him?

I remember. That story came out and as a reporter, you start making calls like, Is this real? This is crazy. Everyone that I trust was like, This is not real. I'm like, I'm going to go hard on this. If I go hard, the chances of Deion tweeting about it are probably good. If I'm wrong on it. I'm like, I'm just going to go for it. Obviously, panned out to be light flirting, maybe not even. A call of, How are the kids?

He batted his eyes at Deon.

It's an ultimatum.

I had one last question. It's a rowback question. Robackk. Com, promo code, take 20% off your first purchase. Two Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback. Com, promo code, take. We had Schefter on on Friday's show. I'm going to ask you a similar question. The NFL can't do a Super Bowl abroad. Can you make sure that doesn't happen?

Why not? Why don't you want to do it?

It would suck. It's our game.

It would suck ass.

Don't do that.

I mean, look, coming off New Orleans, it's hard to imagine the travel. If you took the logistics out of it, would you be into it?

No, no, no.

It's our game.

It's America's game.

You can't give the game to another country.

The food in London sucks. The teeth are bad. You're going to have media members just complaining all week. The teeth are bad.

You think the teeth would affect your enjoyment of the game?

The teeth are bad in London.

I'm sorry. They are. They got bad teeth.

Okay, what if it was in Italy? And we got to eat really well?

Perfect. Too many perfect.

What are the teeth like in Italy?

Are you calling Italians perverts?

I don't think that the NFL should do an overseas game for the Super Bowl.

I'm open to it.

Okay. I don't like that.

I'm open to it.

I like the group. We can't rely on you.

You can't depend on me to say he could take.

Memes is starting to make a lot of sense. I see what you're saying, memes.

This is a bad opinion that you have.

As somebody who is complaining about the travel to every Super Bowl, you're right. Taking a 10-hour flight for that week would be miserable.

Imagine being stuck next to Max on the flight over to London.

Yeah, not great.

We're done talking about that.

We're done talking about that.

He'd gas you out.

I do have a complaint. Sure. It seems that you've turned your back on Washington, DC. What? You used to be You used to dabble in DC homerism.

I tweet every time they win. I can't imagine what it's like in Washington. Holy crap. Jaden's amazing. Dan Quinn, Coach of the Year. What are you talking about?

You used to gas up the Capitals occasionally. I did. You talk about you're the only I was watching Ovi the other day.

How is he still playing? It's crazy. You want to talk about us being old? He is old, and he's out here chasing. Look, I think it's almost unbelievable. I think that's what it is. It's been so good, and it appears from ownership down and the way they're building it that it's almost hard to fathom that it's real. It's not that I don't want to jump on it. It's just I need one more year to be like, Okay, they're really good. This is great, because my hopes now are high. My hopes are high for the pairs. If they can improve Caleb, get him an offensive line, get a couple of weapons on defense, I think-It's a lot of things you just said. It's a lot. Ben Johnson seems like he's the guy.

I think so. I think he is.

In this, Man. All right, well, Diana, thank you as always. You're the best. It's great having you on. Full Italian podcast with you and nick Serrioli. So much. Big time.

I need to be in the food. That's what I need to be doing. Do you have any questions for us?

How to get those numbers up on Scoop City? I think you need to rebrand the Diana Rossini podcast featuring Diana Rossini.

You think that's how it actually came in?

That's what the names called it.

The Diana Rossini podcast?

Yeah. You don't like Scoop City? No, I like Scoop City. You stole it from Jack Mac, but I like Scoop City.

Sorry about that. I told you how people were asking me in football if it was a podcast about ice cream?

That would be cool. I would listen.

You would listen to that. You know what? I'll break my boycott and I'll come on if we only talk about ice cream.

Perfect. That's it.

No questions about anything else. Nothing else, just ice cream talk.

Have all the bears fans tuning in thinking that they're going to give the hot takes about Chicago.

Even call it the Sunday Mailbag, but it's spelled S-U-N-D-A-E. That's smart.

I'll take my shirt off and eat some ice cream.

Another good idea. I'll take it and run with it. So thank you.

All right. Thank you so much, Diana.

Should I have a third?

Yeah. It's a lot, but it's also going to be awesome when they're all a little older.

Let's just go for two back-to-back Super Bowl.

Yeah, there you go. That's what I'm going to go for. Then you'll have the third after you win a second Super Bowl.

Super Bowl, baby.

Yeah, exactly. All right. Thanks, Dan. Thanks, guys. Okay, let's wrap up. Adrian Brody threw his gum at his wife. That's our other Oscars.

Brutal.

Why? I don't know because he had to go up and give a speech.

And he threw his gum at her?

He had gum in his mouth and he tossed it back at her. This is some high-level Oscar stuff for people.

I would never do that.

Will Smith has been topped.

Yes. Just search Adrian Brody. What are you Best picture. That's so funny. I don't know who Shane is. Oh, that's weird. Max searched best picture, and it was just a highlight of Cooper Dajine's pick six. No, it wasn't. It was Devante Smith. Sorry. All right. Thank you to nick Seriani and Diana Rossini. Let's do numbers. We got to get it. Someone's got to get it. Six. It's been a while.

I think memes are going to get it today. That would be sick.

Pug, are you a little upset at yourself because someone pointed out that if you had continued your working backwards from '99, you would have gotten it on Friday at 93? Yeah, I would have kept getting it if I kept going down from '98, but I couldn't forgive myself if 99 did show up, and I went 94 or something. So I just got to stick with it. Brutal. Okay. Say the numbers again.

Three.

Six. Twenty-seven.

I'll go 77 for Luca. 99 put. Twenty-four.

Look, it might be the chins of this. 21.

11.

Memes, you ever gotten this? No. Well, I have. Are you ever going to get it?

I think Memes is going to get it today.

Memes, would you pick?

Three.

Here comes three, Memes.

I'm so sick.

Memes' birthday, by the way, 30.

Happy birthday, man. Happy birthday, Memes.

Wait, today's your fucking birthday? Well, not today.

Today, people are listening to it.

Tomorrow. Which is today.

Oh, so I didn't miss your birthday. No. I got all day to fucking throw gifts at you.

Meams, I got your present. Did you? Yeah. Cool. It's a flight simulator. It's getting delivered to the office. Oh, fuck it.

32.

There's a three in there, Meams.

You know what? For Mims' birthday, let's run it again. This counts.

Yeah, okay. 3.

Let's go.

Come on, memes. 11.

I'll go 30.

Glad that wasn't 33 because that was the other one.

33. I'll go 33 memes.

Damn it. It's your birthday memes. 30th. I'll go five.

99, Poog.

Jack makes 77.

You fucking dick, Jack. He did 77?

Yeah, 77.

Right after I did. He didn't even know.

He doesn't have headphones.

He didn't even know. What was your number last time? Jack. I remember last time. 24. All right, I'll go 24.

Wait. So you're out on 33?

I'm out on 33.

I'll take 33.

All right. Everyone say their number. Five, 30, 11, 3. Wait, what? It's max.

99. Put.

24.

77.

People are going to think from the time stamps that someone got it.

Five. Yes, BFT.

Let's go. Yes. Yes. Yes. Memes is the only thing Meams had over you.

You've now erased Jaden Daniels.

On his birthday. Jaden Daniels.

Happy birthday.

I thought you were going to say, I got some of you.

You know what? You know what? I got memes of present. It's the number five. Meams, I'd like you to have this.

I'd like you to go fuck yourself.

Meams said, I'm taller than him, so technically, I have everything over him.

That's good. Meams, I want to award this five to you.

Not going to get angry.

Wow.

Am I allowed to do that? Can I give memes mine? No, you're not, but it's a nice Jess.

You can't do it.

I wanted to.

I wish. Wait, hold on. I'm literally trying to do that right now.

Hold on. Let me pull up the bylaws. Okay.

Real quick. Because as it stands, this five that I just picked for myself, I would rather memes have it. I want to give that five to memes. I want memes to get his first hit.

Okay. All right. I'm finding it under Section 17, Rule number 84, it says that no lottery ball participant can give their winning ball to anyone else, even if it's their birthday, even if it's Memes' birthday. It's actually what it says.

Except for that one time.

Well, no, that was different. No, that wasn't it. That was before the selection.

Yeah, it was some stupid fucking rule.

But now, Memes, you got nothing. You got nothing.

Yeah, I got nothing.

Happy birthday, Memes. Memes, you know what? One more just for you. You're the only one who could say the number.

It's got to be three.

Okay. Yeah, it does, doesn't it? Yeah. Oh, Memes, it's got to be three. You so do. Are you sure? It has to be. Are you sure, Memes? I don't think it's going to be three. You should pick another number right now. No, it's going to be three. You Why don't you pick another number right now, man? It's not going to be three.

I can't believe he's never gotten this.

Come on, Memes. It's so easy. You got this.

Oh, six. You're so close. Damn.

Didn't Hank pick that before?

I did.

Fuck. I picked six.

Memes. I told you to pick a different number. You want to do one more memes? All right, one more memes.

Yeah, we'll keep going.

Memes, there's an obvious number. He's never going to get it.

There's an obvious number? Is it three?

No. Seven.

Five, six, seven.

But I'm going to pick seven, and then three is going to pop. No, you got it, Memes. Pick your number.

All right, seven. Okay.

I hope it's three so bad. I wanted three, three so bad. Nothing would be better. Eighty-one. Not even close. Not even close.

Memes, you're going to get this.

No, he's not. He's never going to get it. Happy birthday, though. Happy birthday, memes. Happy birthday.

Tard Nox was crazy.

Love you guys. Love you, memes. Yeah, fuck off.