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On today's part in my take, presented by DraftKings Week 15 in the NFL. We had a crazy, crazy Sunday. A lot of pretty catastrophic injuries, some big-time games. The playoff picture is getting a little bit clearer. We have some eliminated teams. Don't let the bangles in the playoff, so we won't. But it was a crazy, crazy Sunday. We're going to talk about all that. We got who's back in the week. We have fastest two minutes, and it's all brought to you by our friends at game time. We're almost at the end of the 12 days of game time where they They're giving away prizes every day with a $5,000 grand prize at the end. If you still have not entered, go to 12daysofgameTime. Com. It is free and only takes a few seconds. This season, Game Time is celebrating the moments that made people fans, and they've been enabling those moments for the past 12 years. Hank, give me a concert that made you a fan of someone. Let's go with Billy Strings. Yes. You've gone to a lot of Billy Strings shows, and Game Time can get you into all of those shows. That's what they're doing, these type of moments.

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Yeah. Part of my take. Welcome to Part of My Take, presented by DraftKings. The Crown is yours. Today is Monday, December 15th, Week 15. They're not going to get them. We start in Chicago, where the wind was blowing and the ice man cometh as Caleb Forel-Williams made the bears faithful happy as he hit DJ more, more, more. How do you like it? How do you like it? For two touch downs. And the route was on. As DeAndre 3000 Swift said, The Browns defense swells like pooh, pooh, pooh, running for 98 yards and two scores himself. As for the Browns, Shaderp Sanders went, Oopsy, not once, not twice, but three times as he was legend spoiled dairy as the milk has gotten rotten for the Cleveland offense. The one bright spot was making my way to the quarterback walking fast, lineman pass, and I got a sack because you know I'd walk a thousand miles, Garrett, if I could see you tonight. I butchered that, but thanks to Vanessa Carlton for allowing me to use her hit song. And I want you, and I need you. Bear's 31, Brown's 3.

We're going to Kansas City, where the Chiefs look to continue their eleven-year streak of everyone hating them by making the playoffs. Meanwhile, Patrick Mahomeo and Juliet Smith Smith-Schuster seem to be a forbidden connection by the Chargers defense.

Keandre had a little lamb, Bert, fleeced the Chiefs for a countdown, and day in, me say day in.

Hindley, day like a man, I pick off my homes, had a really big pick, tickling Andy Reid's tonsils. And for the first time in the history of part of my take, the Kansas City Chiefs have been eliminated from making the NFL playoffs.

Huh?

The Chargers, 16. The Chiefs, 13.

We head to Foxborough, where Hank was on the scene.

In snowy Foxborough, the game started off for New England. Started off hot for New England when Drake, Drake, Drake?

May.

Skate burn in for two first-quarter touchdowns. Trade beyond Ricky Henderson was flying past Pills defenders on a 52-yard rushing TD to put the pats up, 21-0. In the second half, the Patriots couldn't Stop a nose bleed. The Bills did whatever the fuck they wanted. The refs had their heads off their asses, and the Pats D gave a four straight touch-out drive on this efficient title. Was still not clenched.

Bills, 35. Pass, 31. Thanks, Hank. We head over to Cincinnati, where Zack was on the scene. In Cincinnati, Lamar Jackson 5 throws a pass as easy as 1, 2, 3 to Rashaad Muhammad Ali, who floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee for a 30-yard TD. Later, Lamar Jackson 5 then passes deep to Zbe Bay, Zbe Bay, Zbe Bay, Zbe Bay, Zbe Bay.

I'm in the club hollering.

Now, when I holla Zbe Bay, I'm finna get my groove on. It's so hot up in this club that I ain't got no shoes on. Holding up a big stack of them hundreds, it's a rubber band. Girl, don't ask me for no cask because I'm not that other man. Flowers for 28 yards and a countdown. Tyler Fruit of the loop, keeps things high and tight, giving missiles for the entire game. The package is safe, the package is protected, and the package right through the uprights. To seal the deal, Joe Buddenborough throws an interception harder to look at than that one evening he popped out onto the red carpet in a rocket steam footskeball jersey. Kyle Bush-Vannoy then takes a bunch of right turns before lateraling to Olivera Plank Heelman, who brings all 12 essential vitamins and 20 important minerals with him to the house for six points. Ravens 24, bangles zero. Thanks, Zack. You got flow. You got flow. Out in LA, where where Kyren and Stimpy Williams said, You idiot, you fool, to the Lion's defense for trying to keep him out of the end zone. The Rams offense was humming as Puka Nakuna Matata said, Ain't no worries for the rest of your days.

To his quarterback, as Mufasa Stafford just had to throw it up to his wide receiver, and good things happened, showing the Lions who the real king was on Sunday. The good news for Detroit is they're not grateful dead yet, and Amon Ross, St. Brown-eye woman looks as good as ever, scoring twice on the afternoon. But it's the Rams clenching a playoff spot. The Rams, 41. Lions, 34. We head now. I forget where the game was played. It was in Jacksonville for memes.

In Jacksonville, Liam Cohen Wilson said, Wow, the Jets aren't going to play any defense today as Trevor Lawrence Taylor was on drugs looking for some Brent and Strange while having six total touch downs.

Jacobi Mike Myers found a mole in the Jets defense that had Travis Barker at the end treating the Jets like a Kardashian while blowing their back out with three touch downs.

Brian Tom Hank said, Life is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get today.

As he gets his second receiving of the season.

braided was cooking on his second drive of the game but stayed in the kitchen too long, throwing three interceptions.

While if peeing your pants is cool, consider me, Isiah Miles Davis, who stopped the Jaguar's onslaught of scoring with a rushing countdown.

For the Jets defense, Steve Wiltz, who should have assassinated himself after letting the Jaguar score 48 points.

Jaguar is 48, Jets is 20. Thanks. Thanks, Memes. What was that that Liam Cohen Wilson said? Wow. All right, we got to Max in Philadelphia.

We head over to Philadelphia, where Bruce Jalen Hart spoke to Godert by saying, Smite me, Almighty smiter. You're the one who should be fired, not me, after dropping an early touch He got a breakdown right in his hands. But then God, it went off, so that's all good. On the other side of the ball, it looks like, Oh, my God! We killed Kenny's career after an abysmal performance. It's even affecting Bruce powers as his stat lines are looking ghostly while screaming, No, fuck, when seeing his quarterback week in and week out. Max Delente Crosby certainly can't crack a smile as he's fighting with his teammates on the sideline. We even got to see Taylor McKeke, Do you love me? I'll be driving, so you'll never ever leave from beside me because I want you and I need you and I'm down for you. Put together a fantastic drive to show that he may be the league's best backup. Ego 31, Raiders Jira.

We go out to Seattle, where only one of these two quarterbacks was looking darn old. He wasn't seeing Ghost. He was seeing grandpa's folks. Josh Blackhawk down evacuated himself into the end zone in the face of the Sam Olean warlords. And Jonathan Taylor-Hicks was on hole patrol, impressing the Seattle Seacrest's defense. The Colts took a late lead on the shores of Blake, Washington, Groupie 60-yard bomb.

But Seattle place kicker Jason Myers Leonard had several heating gaming moments of his own, blasting six K-Balls and giving the Seahawks the win, 15 to 13. Standing on a corner, Jameis Winston and Hoboken, such a fine side to see.

It's a dart, my lord, just missing the board, and Mariotta pronounced with hard T. Come on, Marus, can you please spare us? From our own GM, he makes us real embarrassed.

Commanders 29, the G-Men 21. And that was Week 15, Fastest 2 Minutes. And it's brought to you by our friends. It's Chevy. Football season is here. And whether you're grinding through the week or gearing up for kickoff, there's one ride that's always game-ready, the Chevy Silverado. The Chevy Silverado is a longtime partner, a part of my take, and our favorite truck, and it's all about grit. From jobsite to tailgate, Silverado lets you show up strong and tackle any task. Built for the hustle, ready for the game, Silverado is America's most dependable, full-size truck. For JD Power 2025 award information, visit jdpower. Com/awards. Head to chevy. Com to learn more and build your own Chevy Silverado today. Okay, week 15 in the books, we'll talk about Cowboys liking Sunday Night Football. I still can't believe they didn't flex this game out with no actual... Well, at least one team has been eliminated.

That's the nine difference.

That's the nine difference. Crazy week 15, a lot of crazy games. A lot of really devastating injuries that we'll get to. But let's go through the slate.

A lot of comebacks today.

A lot of comebacks. Let's start with Bills 35, Patriots 31. What a come back for the Bills. They were down 21 Nothing in this game. Josh Allen and the Bills looked like they were sleepwalking. Then they score before half, and they come out, and Josh Allen had five straight breakdown drives, did whatever he wanted. James Cooke was an absolute beast. And the Patriots lose for the first time in 10 games, 11 games. I guess this was their 11th game.

It was a great streak. It was also, I believe, Mike Vrabel's first loss off a buy-ever. As a head coach. When he was with the Titans, I believe he was perfect. This, obviously, is his first year with the Patriots. They looked like they were in control of the game at halftime. Bill's got some bad news going to the game. Brentford was out with a toe, so they couldn't have their best cornerback. And Drake May looked electric in the first half. He did. With his feet and with his arms.

Two rushing touch sounds right out of the gate. It was also the first time. Since 2017, home teams that were up 21-0 were 61-0 going into today. Now this was a T-shirt and hack game for the Patriots. Now, they still have an inside track on winning the AFC East. They would have to lose to one of the AFC East teams, which is Jets and Dolphins, which they shouldn't struggle with. Probably not. Probably not. The Bills would have to win out for the Bills to jump them.

But, Hank. The hats were in the building.

The hats were in the building.

Yes. Your thoughts.

Would you like to talk?

Yeah. Or not talk. No, I have no problem talking. It was a tough second half.

It's been a while since you had to do this.

It has been a while since I've had to do this. It was a very tough second half. It felt like the first half The division was ours. The one seed was we were coming for the one seed. The Broncos were going to have a tough game later in the day. Everything was going great. Drake May was running it everywhere. Yeah, this was I'm talking about in the first half. Okay, in the moment. Yeah, no, I was.

Okay, sorry.

He said in the first half, yeah.

In the first half, yeah.

But then Josh Allen. Every time we talk about the who are you worried about? And even when the Bills were not playing well, it's Josh Allen was always the top of the list because of that reason he has experience. He doesn't get phased in situations where they're down. I think they have the most come back or whatever, second half points in the league. Patriots defense couldn't stop anyone. Refs were nowhere to be found making some crazy calls. Not going to blame it on the refs. But they should be mentioned. The Patriots D couldn't stop anyone. And prosecuted, yes.

Should be mentioned and put in jail.

Again, Drake Mays is his second year. It's his first time playing in these meaningful games. He didn't Didn't play great in the fourth quarter. Is this how I would say? He missed some throws, took some interesting shots. There's a third down where he threw it deep when he had a guy coming across the middle. It was hopefully a good loss. Hopefully, they were in it. Like I said before the game last week, if they lose and it's close, that's something that can be built upon. Stefan Diggs said that after the game. He said it was a good loss. And they have a next week to basically be in another playoff game like-With the Ravens. Feel with the Ravens, Sunday Night Football. So hopefully, they bounce back. It was bad.

If you were to blame the rest, how would you do it? But you're not going to, but What would you do it?

The pass interference call on third down. It was a weird call. It was a weird call. It was a late call. The play was over, then the flag came out of nowhere. That always drives me nuts. And then on the fourth down, there was three Patriots' receivers getting held, no flags to be found. I'm not blaming the rest because the Patriots couldn't stop anyone. But if I was, it would be for that reason.

There was someone who we work with who did blame the refs. Can I read you what he wrote? Sure. He said, The Patriots are by far the better team. These loser fucks were never going to let the Patriots beat the poster boy of the NFL two times. The NFL should be fucking embarrassed with what millions of eyes watched today from the referee squad. This game is so corrupt.

Is that our stats Department?

No, that was from one Nicolas Fusoli.

Then you also posted this picture. I don't know if you saw it. It looks real. It looks like Josh Allen kissing the referee on the lips. Yeah, no, that does look real. I think that happened in the game, which if I'm watching it home and I see that as a Pats fan, I'm like, Come on, at least try to It looked like you guys are calling it neutral.

Yeah, go in the blue 10 if you're going to make out.

Yeah. I actually thought that Drick May played really well in the first half. People were saying the interception, that was a great punt. It was essentially an arm punt. That was also a pass interference on that play, but they didn't call it.

But not playing with their arm. Also, the interception, They called pass interference on a ball that the Patriots deep intercepted, and somehow they ruled it a catch for the Bills, and it was no pass interference. That was insane. They're deep.

I like that. I'm going to start using that. But I thought that it was a great opportunity for Drick May to get his first come from behind game-winning drive in his career, and I thought he was going to do it. I guess if he's going to learn from it, I feel like it's good that it happened now, as opposed to happening in the playoffs. After the game, Josh Allen said They asked him, What does this team have? What makes this team special? He said, We don't blink. So Vrabel is no naps. The Bills are no blinks, even.

Listen, the Bills, we all know what their offense can do. Their offense can get going at any point. Shout out Dawson Knox, who had two touch downs, also a father this week. And Josh is going to be a expectant father. Congratulations.

Congrats, Josh.

Friends Josh. The Bills defense is their Achilles heel. But if you look at what the Bills have done in some of these big-time games, last week, they couldn't get a stop. They get the back-to-back interceptions, one being a pick six against the Bengals. Remember the Steelers game when they looked absolutely dead in the first half? And then Bosa gets the sack on Rodgers, fumble, breakdown. They had the two clutch game saving stops in this game. I think the Bucks game they had, they closed it out with two turnovers. Their defense is like one of those situations where, yes, They can be had, but they have also stepped up in big-time moments to make big-time plays and win games because their offense is not the problem.

Right. Their defense is. But it's almost like their offense gets better when they play from behind, when their backs up against the wall. Yeah.

I mean, 21-0, and it was like, Okay, well, if they score before half, it's going to be a game, and that's exactly what it was.

That is the largest comeback win by a visiting team in the history of Gillette Stadium. That doesn't happen at the G-Spot.

It doesn't happen at the G-Spot.

You shut them out. I want to read a tweet from an unnamed Pats fan. Run it up, followed by six exclamation points. Give me the one seed, followed by two exclamation points. Who is that? Who is that? I'll do another blind tweet from this person. Big Cat and PFT are being dickheads.

Yeah, you guys were just whispering behind my back the entire time. Okay. I wasn't saying it in front of you.

Hold on. No, no, no. The only whispering I did was because I opened up- Hey, Max, want to look at this thing? I opened up Twitter.

I'm not going to say this out loud, but I wish I could.

I opened up to... No, that was something totally different that I'm not going to say out loud. That's totally different. Then I said, You heard me say it. No. The take I did out there? I don't know. Yes, you did. Now you're lying.

A hundred %.

Now you're lying. I had nothing to do with the picture. Because you know that had nothing to do with it. I'm just talking about what I heard when you guys were being dickheads. You know what my take was, and it was nothing to do with it. It was about college football. Yeah.

Okay. Just saying what I heard.

I pulled up Twitter at four o'clock, and the top tweet was the run it up tweet because you know how it's not in sequential order. And that's what I said to them.

That was it. Hank, I don't think that we're being dickheads, though. I think we were watching the game. I had money on it. I took the hungry dog. I was rooting for the Pats. Anyone can watch that stream and be like, damn, who's the Pats fan here? It's PFT.

He had the hungry dog.

I had the hungry dog. I had Drake for 300 plus today as well, which I was rooting for.

It wasn't like the season's over. It's a loss to a good team.

No, I never said it was.

It was a great loss. You said it.

I just think you weren't used to losing.

No. To blow a lead like that, it was tough. The defense was just...

What, Max?

No, Max, you got something.

You got something. You were about to say something.

Why are you grinning, Max? You looked like the Grinch back there. Max, share with the class.

It's just interesting that this is the exact same thing that happened in the Broncos-Egles game where I got mad for Hank screaming Doddington Bones in my ear.

Oh, good.

I had the Bills, too. Good point.

I had Bills' Money Line.

He did. He bet Bills' Money Line.

But you You guys weren't saying anything to my face. You were snickering behind my back.

Yeah, that's way worse. That's pussy shit. That is fraud, power, pussy shit. That is showing respect to someone who's actually in the moment of the meeting.

Not hitting someone and saying Doddington Bones in their face.

That's in the arena. You were in the arena at the moment, Hank.

Yeah, you guys-You would have rather us touch you?

You would have rather me scream Doddington Boat?

I did not touch Max. Max fucking hit me in the dick, threw my phone across the room, and screamed in my face. I wouldn't have cared if he was rooting for the bills. I don't give a fuck.

But you were mad at us for snickering.

You were mad at the whispering?

You guys were acting like I wasn't sitting there like, Oh, my God.

It was what? That was sweet.

We were trying to communicate. He was doing it all game.

I was not doing it all game. I was rooting for the Patriots thing.

I'm allowed to tweet whatever I want. You guys are being dickheads. That's my opinion.

You're lacking out. That's fine. You're entitled to be dickheads.

You're trying to pull your own. No, that's fair. I have no problem with calling us dickheads. We probably were. Probably are. We all are. We're all dickheads.

Yeah.

Did you see Mike Vrabel's quote after the game was basically draftjoshallan. Com? They asked him about Josh Allen and how he was able to come back in that game. He said, Same thing everybody else sees. 6'5, 250 pounds, runs fast, hard to tackle, hard to get down on the ground, accurate, strong arm, giving you a dissertation on a league MVP. Just watch all the games. That's why they pay him 60 million. I don't know what to tell you.

A dissertation on league MVP.

It's a correct quote. What do you want? Your eyes can see it. Josh Allen, when he catches fire, there's nothing you can do. And he was catching fire.

Yeah. I mean, credit to the Patriots running. I thought Henderson looked really good today. Shot out of a cannon.

Yeah, he had that big run at the It was the fourth quarter?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Does it concern you that the Patriots seem to struggle when they're playing from behind?

No. I mean, they were down in the fourth quarter. It took the lead back.

Yeah. But they tend to struggle. If they struggle at all, it's when they're playing from behind.

Does not concern me.

Not concerned. No. So torch update. Does Drake still have the torch?

This is like, am I has been taken crazy pills?

What?

We had this exact conversation on Thursday that the torch was not... There was no update after this game.

Well, I just wanted to double check.

So if you want to know the torch update, just go listen to the show we did on Thursday.

I'm curious how you feel right now when you watch it.

Where you asked me, if the Patriots lose this game, does the torch go back? And we said, no. When we went over the whole thing, no.

I'm just curious where you sit right now.

Torch update, same as when we talked about it two days ago.

Which is Drake may still have the torch. You have dementia. Yeah. Now, what if the Bills somehow win the division? I'm curious to know the update.

He's asking for the Torch update.

The update.

Okay, same answer.

Listen, I'll send you a link. We're elder.

Please don't be mean to your elderly co-host. There's an update.

I want to know your emotions after the game, Hank.

It's the same. If we lose the division, then we can have a discussion about the Torch.

Okay.

The Torch stays where it is.

Yeah, the Torch is ours.

What's Drinks?

You split the games. You split the games this year.

But it's the division. Right.

So whoever wins the division current torchbearer.

Yeah.

Okay. How do you feel about the MVP race?

How do I feel about it? Yeah.

Did this swing you one way or the I think Matt Saffer is probably going to win.

Yeah, he's minus 300 right now on DraftKings to win the MVP.

How do you feel about it? Josh Allen, right?

His odds got a lot better today. That's awesome.

He went to plus 550.

That's great.

Are you upset?

Yeah.

Okay. Good. Yeah, good. It's good to say it. Be mad. It's good to say it. Open space.

It's not open space. Everything I say you guys, just deny. But yeah, I'm mad. You're annoying.

What did we deny?

That you weren't being dickheads.

Oh, no. I just said that we're all dickheads.

Okay. Yeah. How do you acknowledge that?

I was for one second. I was locked in on the bear's game.

I did. No. That was when you hit the dickheads. I remember. I remember everything.

Me, too. Doddington Bones.

Good. Max, I don't care. You have rights. I don't care about you. You can do it. You I fuck with you as much as I humanly can. Max, Big Cat and P. F. T. Like to act like they're everybody's friends. That's fair. Then when they get mad, they're like... Then if I say something about the bears, Big Cat will literally fucking cry.

I had no...

You're going to cry.

When did I say I had a problem with you calling me a dickhead? I don't have a problem with you calling me a dickhead. I know.

I'm just saying. It's fine. You guys act like you don't troll, and then when I come back, you call me.

No, I told you exactly in the moment I said I saw the tweet at the top of my-Not to me. Yeah, I said that. You said it Behind me. Well, I mean, you were in a-I was in your show. You were in a very prickly mood. I wasn't going to say it to you.

But you were talking loud enough where I could clearly hear you.

Well, I didn't even... I whispered to... I showed them the phone. You're right. I should have said it directly to you. Right. Okay.

My bad. Listen, the tough loss-That probably would have gone really well. The tough losses in the gambling cave- But what's the point?

If I could hear you? It's like, I knew you were talking about me literally behind my back. Okay.

The tough losses in the gambling cave, you have every right to lash out. Yeah. Because we're going to be We're going to say things that sound like compliments, but really aren't compliments. We're going to do all the psychological warfare. Yeah, it does suck when you lose games like that. Yeah, it's all right. It's okay. Yeah, Patriots are fine. Patriots, they did lose the one seed today.

We didn't have it going into this.

I just didn't like that. But you lost the opportunity to have it. If you had won and the Broncos had lost, it could have been yours.

We didn't lose it, though.

We didn't have it. I wasn't trolling you all game. I didn't talk to you all game.

I know. I never said you were.

Okay. Pft was.

I was clapping up. No, P. A. T. Bet the Patriots. He was doing his long control, but that's fine.

What long control? I was gambling on the Patriots. I know.

I'm not- What happened to our podcast we were going to do about the Pats?

Do your pod.

I have no issue with your behavior during the game. It's fine.

After the game, slight issue.

I don't care. You shouldn't say the whisper. It's all good. You guys are being dickheads. I said you're dickheads.

Yeah, the whisper is not so much.

We are dickheads. It's fair. We are dickheads. It is what it is, yeah.

We're all dickheads.

Dying to both.

We've all had bad dickhead moments.

If it makes you feel any better, Hank, the 2021 Titans last loss of the regular season was also in week 15. Okay? Okay, great. You can turn this right around. Just like, remember the Titans, Hank.

Dude, Harold Landry made it like a sack in the first half. And PFT is like, That's Harold Landry, a superstar player from the Titans, when they got the one seat.

Again, I've moved past the 300 set, so I'm not going to bring that up anymore. You It's broken containment because now whenever anyone throws for 300 yards, Hank and I get tagged in a lot of tweets about it. But I just wanted to tell people, stand down. I don't care about that. That number doesn't mean anything. It's an arbitrary line of the sand. Let's just focus on the playoffs. Let's win some playoff games.

I agree. So, Hank, the Patriots still have a 63% chance to win the AFC East. I think if you just beat the Jets and Dolphins, you're in. You win the AFC East. You can lose to the Ravens and still win the AFC East If you win-We got to beat the Ravens.

Are you worried about the Ravens?

If you win those other two games.

They're a good team.

I've said it all year. The teams with quarterbacks and coaches that have experience in the playoffs, those are the teams that scare you. And the Bills and Josh Allen showed why.

Are you worried about the Jets at all? Playing spoiler. Specifically, memes. That would be memes of Super Bowl.

We're focused on the Ravens right now. I'm not going to get ahead of myself.

Okay. Have you napped? No. Okay. Have you blinked?

Yes.

How's Left Summer going?

It's all right. It's hard. It's not frustrating.

I'm being friends with them right now. I like this.

Hank's my boy. Yeah. He's all of our boys. Hank's my boy. But the truest mark of whether somebody is actually your real boy is if you root for them to fail when it comes to their sports teams that they love very much.

I have no issue with it. I have no issue with it. By the way-Just do it to my face, not by my back.

Okay.

But you were sitting in front of me.

Exactly. Did you want me to down in front?

I've been like, Hey.

Hey, look. There's a tweet that I saw.

Hey, Grok on-What about the thing you said on the stream?

Do you stand by the thing you said on the stream that you said you weren't going to talk about in the podcast?

What was that? What thing?

Patriots are going to make it a Super Bowl.

Well, Hank, that happened on The Cave, and I told you, man to man, this is not for the podcast. It's for the stream only. Sometimes you have to provide content that's stream only for the people that are tuning in.

Got it.

Otherwise, you hear it all on the podcast.

That was exclusive for the stream.

Yeah, it was an exclusive. Was I saying it to reverse jinks you? Who's to say? It ended up working out that way. But yeah, I guess in my heart of hearts, I'm a little bit concerned about the idea of owing you $50,000. I guess $42,000. I'd rather not owe you that money.

After the end of that game, do you still think that? Off the record, off the podcast?

Okay, off podcast, stream only. My stream only thoughts on that. I don't think the Patriots are going to make the Super Bowl this year.

I I think if they get the one seed, they could.

Yeah.

They could win two home playoff games and be in the Super Bowl. I don't know if winning three is hard.

I agree. The buy is massive. Yeah.

Listen, you got a 21 Nothing lead on the Bills. That happened.

That means nothing, yeah.

But that did happen.

It did happen. You got out to that lead.

You got out to that lead.

Mr. First quarter, Drake may lit it up. He had a great first half.

The Bills have such a funny list of This season, they've beaten Baker Mayfield, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, and Drake May, and they've lost to Davis Mills, Tua, and Michael Pennex, and Drake May.

And Drake May, yeah.

I don't really know what to make of this Bills team. Basically, if they have Josh Allen, they can get out of any problem.

Is Josh Allen on his fuck shit? Yeah. If he is, then they might win.

Get you out of any problem, Josh Allen. But you don't want to be in too deep of a problem in the playoffs. That's why- If you go down 21-0 in the playoffs, that's a different That feels like a different problem.

That's why I feel like Josh Allen, he should be definitely in the MVP consideration. If you took Josh Allen off the bills and replaced him with any other quarterback in the NFL, they're a bad team. And with Josh Allen, they're going to compete for the AFC. Well, they're going to compete for the division title. Yeah.

Okay. Any last words?

Baltimore. Beat Baltimore. Yeah.

And that's Sunday Night Football. Listen, you had been out of practice of losing. That is true. It had been a long time since you had to sit on the podcast and lose.

What's your biggest drought as a sports fan, in between championships? We got to be close to getting into it now, from the Celtics to now.

No. No.

I'm trying to think. It was the Celtics to the Patriots.

2008 Celtics to the 2013 Patriots.

Is that it? What about since Since the pod started.

I don't know.

Pod, it's nothing. All right, well, let's go to the next game. This was bad news because Patrick Mahomes got hurt, but good news, the Chiefs have been eliminated. Chargers, 16. Chiefs, 13. Patrick Mahomes does have what seems like a torn ACL, which sucks a lot.

Per Adam Schefter, the Chiefs and Mahomes are exploring surgical options. So he has a torn ACL. Yeah, a torn ACL. Yes. And they'll be exploring surgery for it. Yes.

So they're eliminated. The Kansas City Chiefs have been eliminated from the playoffs for the first time since 2014. This podcast has never done a show without the Chiefs in the playoffs. It's pretty Crazy. The run they have had the seven years from 2018 till, obviously, this year is the eighth year. But for those seven years, they went to seven straight conference Championship games, five Super Bowl, one, three of them. Insane. Insane Dane run, very similar to the Patriots run, but now it is over for at least this year because they will not be in the playoffs. Patrick Mahomes, which sucks, will probably miss sometime next year, I would assume. Probably, yeah. Probably miss the beginning of next year.

I guess it all depends on how bad the tear is, if it is the ACL, and then what they have to do to it. But there's a chance he could get back to start the season. But probably more likely that he'll come back after it started, but be there for the majority of it. What's crazy is that this will be the first time that the AFC Championship game doesn't have either Patrick Mahomes or Tom braided as a quarterback in it since 2010. That's crazy. How nuts is that? That's when it was Ben Rothlisberger and-Mark Sanchez. Mark Sanchez. Yeah. Mark Sanchez of the Jets. This is truly the end of an era. It sucks that Mahomes tours ACL. I thought it was a little bit of a dirty hit that he got taken out on. Yeah, Mahomes also keeps plays alive. He does keep plays alive. It sucks that he tours ACL. The NFL is way more fun when Mahomes is playing. It took some of the joy out of celebrating for all the Chiefs haters. It was harder to truly enjoy the moment. Finally, the Chiefs and Mahomes are not going to be in the playoffs to steal everybody else's joy.

Oh, yeah, he tore his ACL. That's a bummer.

When they were going down the field, it weirdly left that little glimmer of, Well, if they had scored there and won that game, could they have gone to the playoffs? They weren't eliminating eliminated until losing this game. Patrick Mahomes will not take a snap with his team eliminated. He's never taken a snap with his team eliminated. That stat now becomes moot because he obviously was out of the game after Garner-Minshuh came in and threw the interception. Hank, no Chiefs in the playoffs.

Yeah. I feel bad for Patrick Mahomes in the injury. Yeah, it sucks. That was a shitty way. It's It's tough. I guess, similar. I don't know. Obviously, way different circumstances. He didn't commit a crime. He's not in jail. But it's probably similar to Ohio State fans where it's like you can't... It feel bad making fun of the situation.

Oh, I don't think Ohio State They don't feel bad at all.

With Michigan?

No, they don't feel bad at all. Wrong. Yeah, no. It is crazy, though. You see everyone talking about how, you know, braided in his whatever was, won three Super Bowl, and then is in eighth year towards ACL. I think Mahomes, technically, his ninth year because he didn't start, obviously, his first year. Tears as ACL. Difference being braided towards ACL in week one. Mahomes does it in week 15, which is going to take a little longer to come back for next year. But yeah, it is weird Having both the Chiefs out of the playoffs and then having Mahomes have that injury, which sucks because Patrick Mahomes, selfishely, I was like, Oh, Christmas night is ruined. Right.

That's going to stink.

Not that we don't like Garner Minchew.

Minchew on Christmas, Actually, he looks Christ-like.

Yeah, but it stinks. I feel really bad for Patrick Mahomes because that sucks to have an injury like that and have to rehab for the entire offseason after what was already a season from hell.

We're probably going to get a big documentary about his workouts, his rehab. The State Farm commercial where he's in the training room is going to be awkward to look at. Yeah.

That was probably the last time Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey play on the same football field.

I feel like the Chiefs are going to be a different-looking team next time they step on the field.

Oh, they need a full reset.

They're going to have Pickens. Or not pick-ins, they're going to have pits. Pits, yeah. Somehow. They are in cap hell going in this offseason. But I think they could probably just be like, Hey, Mahomes, can we just restructure your contract? Give you a lot of money up front, and he'd be like, Yeah, sure.

Yeah, sure. Go ahead. Yeah, that works. As for the Chargers, the Chargers are just tough as nails. They just win ugly games, rock fights. The two teams combined were 11 for 27 on third downs today. The game basically swung, though, with Justin Herbert throwing that countdown pass at the end of the half. When the Chiefs were up, what was it, 13-3, it felt like the Chiefs were going to roll them. It felt like everything was going to be good in Chiefs land. Then Justin Herbert goes down the field, scores that breakdown, makes it a three-point game going to half. Then it was just, Yeah, let's just rock fight all the way to the end.

The defense for the Chargers stepped up in the second half, too.

Two big interceptions at the end of the game.

It went punt, punt, pick, pick. Those are the Chief's four possessions in the second half. I loved what Harbaugh said after the game. Did you read his quote? No, what he said. He goes, It's a ball team. There it is. This is a ball team. Starting to think this is my favorite ball team that I've ever been on. I've been on a lot of teams, none better than this team. It's a ball team, a real ball team. I think the Chargers got to be the number one ball team.

They got to be the number one ball team.

I got Chargers. Detroit Pistons are a ball team. The 49ers are a ball team. The Saints This might be a ball team.

There's a difference- The Saints are a ball team, yeah.

You don't think the Saints are a ball team? No, I do. Hank shook his head.

I don't really understand what the... Yeah, actually, you know what? Yeah, I do.

They're a ball team. Harbaugh said this is the best ball team. My favorite ball team I've ever been on. They're just a ball team. There's a difference between a great team and a ball team.

He's not saying they're great at football. This is just a ball team. They just fight for everything. Every moment is going to be tough. That's just what the Chargers do. I mean, Justin Herbert has been sacked 11 times in the last two games. Justin Herbert He needs to get all the credit. He's playing with a broken hand. Justin Herbert has been sacked four plus times in a game, six times this year. The Chargers' record in those games, five and one. Yeah. That's a ball team. That's a ball quarterback.

They're five and oh in the division. I don't think the Chargers have ever gone five and oh to start the season inside their division right now.

It's the first time they've swept the Chiefs since 2014, which also was the last time the Chiefs didn't miss the playoffs. So, yeah, it's a true ball team. I I don't know if they can go to the Super, but I know that they can just muck it up with anyone and make anything a game. That's really what they've proven to do, especially in the last two wins. They're physical.

Very physical. Very physical. Yeah, just gutty performance from Justin Herbert again. I was thinking, if he gets married, he should take Madison's name. Oh, Justin Beer? Justin Beer would be an awesome name to have.

Justin Beer would be so sick. Yeah. The Chiefs will play the Last three games as meaningless, which that actually does hurt you a little, Hank, because they do play the Broncos on Christmas night. I saw this stat. In Mike Tomlin's 19 seasons with the Steelers, he's played a total of one meaningless game, eliminated eliminated from the playoffs.

That's pretty cool.

One single game. But yeah. Also, Chris Jones didn't realize that he was eliminated until he was at the podium.

That's a tough one to find out. That's a tough moment.

For them to tell you, to let you know that, Hey, you guys are out of the play.

If you're on the Chiefs, you don't expect to ever be eliminated. You're just like, What do you mean this game is meaningless? What do you mean, Tank?

Yeah. Because it was just... I lost money on the Chiefs the last time this year. That would be one nice thing Because I did think they were just going to keep getting off the mat. I thought they were going to win this game. They were probably going to win this game. Patrick Mahomes doesn't tear his ACL. I don't know. Maybe not, though, because the Chargers are a ball team.

Bills fans got to be the happiest.

Bills? Why? Oh, yeah.

First play off without Patrick Mahomes. Yeah.

If the Bills do win the Super Bowl this year, it's actually going to be sneaky, like a good thing for Chiefs fans.

Well, yeah, now that they're out of it.

They could be like, Yeah, the one year that we weren't in, you did it. Now that they're out of it, yeah, they can say that. I wonder if any Chiefs fans are going to be rooting for the Bills. That'd be mean. Probably not root for them, but you have that big ace in the hole if the Bills do win the Super Bowl.

Yeah, it just didn't have to go through Kansas City.

By the way, if you want to go- At least we don't have to watch the and the Chiefs in the Super Bowl again. Yeah. So America wins.

If you go all the way back to 1998, this is the first playoff since 1998 that won't feature Tom braided, Peyton Manning, or Patrick Mahomes. All three of those guys have been in every single NFL playoff since 1998, or at least one of those three guys, I mean, have been in the playoff since 1998.

I think Mahomes will be fine.

Yeah, he's going to be fine. That is the one thing with these ACL injuries. They're not like they used to be in that you could bounce back. It's not... The one thing that sucks for the Chiefs is they will probably not be very good next year, too. That is one thing that you can... Mahomes is going to come back later than probably the start of the season. We've seen with the ACL injuries, you're not 100% for a little bit. That's where it's not only you get eliminated for the playoffs, but next year is looking like it's going to be an uphill battle as well.

Yeah, maybe bring Matt Castle back. That's what the Patriots did.

Yeah. Garner-minschuh, Christmas night.

That's going to be fun. I do think it's going to be fun. Garner-minschuh is a very, very fun backup. That's going to be a fun time. At least we have that.

So, Hank, no Mahomes.

No Mahomes, yeah.

Even if he had not torn his ACL, the Chiefs were eliminated. Yeah. So you could just separate the two.

I was right.

I said in this podcast. What did you say?

Chiefs aren't going to make the playoffs.

Yeah, you did.

Yeah. Pft eliminated him three weeks ago.

Yeah. I think on Thanksgiving, right? Yeah.

You eliminated their ass.

Yeah.

They did have just so many games where you're just like, What is happening this season?

Yeah, it's got to be the most frustrating season in a very long time for Chiefs fans.

You could have had him as your Peggy team.

I know.

That's true. Thanks. I've been reminded of it a lot. Appreciate it. I really regret whispering that tweet to you during the gambling cave.

You think that he's just...

Yeah, I do. I regret it. I wish he could go back in time and take it back.

I mean, he was just pointing out that it was at the top of the timeline. Then I pointed You know what I whisper to Big Cat? I was like, Look at this. It was that grock on x. Com, the AI machine. It had the recap of the Patriots Bills game, and it was Patriots win in a blowout because Patriots were up at halftime, and that's when it grabbed us. I was showing that to Big Cat. I didn't feel like saying it out loud because I was like, Hey, Hank's down bad right now. Our hungry dog just lost, and I didn't want to rub it in. Me and you were in lockstep today. We had all the same best. Always.

Always lockstep. Always Next step.

Max, memes. Actually, I'm curious to know Memes' thoughts.

At least we got the countdown parlay.

Are you reading against him right now?

No. Our legs hit. Now he's rooting against it.

I like that.

Now he's reading against it. Memes, as a hater.

You're right. We did.

What are your thoughts on the Chiefs missing the playoffs? I was the first one to report it. When? A couple of episodes before you reported it. Oh, wow. Oh, damn. Really? So I copied your report? You copied the report. Wow. I'm sorry. I said it, and then you guys were like, Are you sure? Patrick Mahomes? I was just like, Yeah, fuck it.

It is a big day for the people who have been predicting the Chiefs to not make the playoffs every year for the last five years.

That's why it sucks so much, though, that Mahomes got hurt. Obviously, it sucks that he got hurt, but it sucks even worse that nobody can take as much joy in it as this day that everyone's been waiting for it for so long.

No, I know. Chiefs get to Hyde be like, Hey, our quarterback got hurt.

Yeah, stay classic. Yeah, come on. Stay classic, guys.

You can't fucking celebrate. It's true. It should have been a celebratory day. It was not.

Yeah, I got a text from Kirk Goldsbury earlier, and it was just a picture of an internet comment that was somewhere Dylan Raul is jumping violently up and down in his apartment trying to injure his knee. I thought that was a pretty funny take on it.

That is a funny take. Yeah. Okay, next game. Ravens 24. What, Max? What are you going to say?

No, it was me. I actually like the Chiefs. I'm not a hater of the Chiefs. Really? They were casting a shadow over the Patriots' dynasty, so I like the Chiefs. They were doing me a I have the same take.

I don't really hate the Chiefs either.

I didn't really have any feelings for them other than they were just really good.

I wanted to see Patriots Chiefs in the first round. I thought that would have been a fun game to watch.

The only time I really hated the Chiefs was when the bears still had Mitch, but we're three quarterbacks on from that because everyone was like, Oh, Mitch and Patrick Mahomes.

That's forever ago. I never really hated the Chiefs. I just wanted to see Josh Allen get to a Super Bowl, and then I did not want to see another matchup of the Chiefs and the Eagles in the Super Bowl last year. Actually, Max, you broke the Chiefs.

For now.

Yeah, I think I wouldn't hate the Chiefs if I were you either.

As a national sports podcast, I think we put a lot of respect on the Chiefs for the most part. Hank, did you hate the Chiefs? Yeah.

Okay.

Do you hate me?

No. Okay. Do you hate me? No.

That one was a little different.

I love you, Hank.

I love you, too.

I love you.

I love you guys.

I love you. Okay, Ravens24, bangles0. Don't want the bangles in the playoffs. We didn't.

There it is. No, we did not. The bangles got the day off to an interesting start by not shoveling their stadium entirely, not cleaning off the seats of snow.

Who, Florio being on that was the absolute best.

He was all over it, all over it. I guess the bangles were saying that it's easy enough for fans to brush the snow off their own seats. We're going to prioritize the aisles and cleaning up the concourses. That was a big controversy in Florio's mind before the game started. But then after the game started, it was just a shit kicking. The bangles looked bad. Joe Burrow did not play with joy today.

He said, Joe Burrow said, No team would have won with me as their quarterback today. Yeah. So he was very honest about it. It was the perfect, I don't want to say perfect because bangles fans, obviously, this has been a terrible season, but it was the perfect encapsulation of the bangles that your defense finally submitted, and they've been playing better recently, but your defense played well. And the Ravens only had 40 plays of offense, and your offense had no points, and that was the first time in Joe Burrow's career that he started and finished a game and got shut out.

Got shut out. He had a couple of bad interceptions. That one that Aloha Gilman had, though, was awesome. The runback is Calvano. He picked it off, and then he was just like, Here, you take it. Take it. You're faster than me. Instead of throwing a lateral, he was just like, You are a young man. Please run. I cannot run.

You have it.

I'll just- He watched. He had the best seating the house afterwards.

Yeah, but it was... So Lamar stays perfect week 15 and later. So 16 and 0 now, week 15 regular season. So regular season games. The Bengals are out. The Ravens maybe found a little something in terms of identity where their defense is playing well and they're running the football. Derrick Henry had 100 yards, only on 11 carries. Lamar didn't have to throw the ball much. It does feel like their offense still isn't back to peak Lamar, but maybe they found something.

Maybe, yeah. I was I was actually hoping for the craziest scenario where they would win the division with seven wins. That would have been funny. But now they've got a big game against the Patriots next Sunday, then at the Packers, and then at the Steelers to close out their season. I have no idea how that's going to share. The Ravens are the one team in the NFL that I genuinely cannot figure out. They're so weak to weak. I don't know which team is going to show up. I thought that the bangles would at least compete. I didn't think it was going to be a blowout either way, but I have no idea what to... If they lost to the Patriots by 30 points next week and then beat the packers 17 to 10, that would not surprise me at all. Yeah.

The Ravens could go to the Super Bowl or not make the playoffs. Both would be like, Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. It makes perfect sense. Do we think Zack Taylor might be done? It feels like it might be with Joe Burrow's comments, which he then clarified today saying he wasn't talking about the organization. He was just talking about his fun with football. He also had a closed-door meeting with team, which no one has talked about yet. But yeah, doesn't it feel... Zack Taylor also had a tough one where he was asked afterwards, What are your thoughts on the team's effort? And he said, We held them to three points in the second half. The Ravens did score 10 points. I guess they technically did hold them to three points because there was the pick six. But still, I don't know. I feel like Zack Taylor might be the sacrificial lamb of this terrible, terrible bangles season.

His contract runs through 2026. It doesn't matter. I feel like you don't think so? No.

Contracts for coaches?

For the bangles coaches?

Yeah, maybe, but not really still. If Joe Burrow is unhappy because how much they paying him, they're probably not paying him a lot.

I think even for the bangles, I would say that they're probably going to let him coach it out. I think it does make a big difference for them.

You don't think he's going to be fired? One year left? I think they're fired. If Joe Burrow is not happy and he's like, Hey, it's Zack Taylor, he's gone. He has to be gone.

I just got a text. I just got a text from our dear close personal friend Chris Berman.

Oh, yeah, I got the same one.

Yeah. He said, Sound bite for you. When we interview Dude, in May, you asked me for a bold prediction. I said the Bills won't play Kansas City in January. Don't know why, but well, it's true. Yep. Credit to the swamp. Nailed it. That's why they call him the Swam.

He is. He saw under the crystal ball.

So memes. Actually, You have to credit Chris Bermon.

Yeah, you copied Chris Bermon. Yep. So say thank you to Chris Bermon.

Thank you, Chris. Thanks, man.

There you go.

I feel like Zack Taylor, I think he'll probably stick around for next year. Although I think any other franchise, he would definitely be on the hot seat.

Whose Line Is It Anyway? Next week, Sunday Night Football, Patriots Ravens. In Baltimore, on DraftKings, Whose Line Is It Anyway? I'm going to guess. I know what it is. You do? Ravens minus two and a half?

That's what I was going to say.

It was one and a half a few hours ago. I'll double check right now.

It's two and a half now. Okay. Hungary Dog? Oh, yeah. Go right back to it. What were the other legs in Hungary Dog? You had Saints, right?

Saints. Saints, lines.

Okay. Next game. Bear's 31, Brown's 3. Bear's are 10 and 4. That was an ass-kicking. I loved that it was an ass-kicking because It was just a take care of business type of game. Caleb played awesome. That throw to DJ Moore, one of the coolest throws ever. I still don't know how he did that. He was asked afterwards if it was just a prayer. He said, No, I can make that throw. I can make any throw.

I can make any throw. Because when you let go of it, it seemed like the throw that coaches don't want to see you make. But it was perfect. I guess in a game like this against the Browns, Ben Johnson probably gave him the latitude, Just go out there and make fucking plays, dude. Yeah.

And the offense looked good. This was the first time the have had a complete game win in... I don't even know because we've won so many games where quarters have looked bad and we win by a block field or whatever it may be. This was a complete game win where the offense looked good, the defense was taking the ball away, the defense looked good. That probably has a lot to do with the Browns being bad offensively and their offensive line being completely broken and out. But yeah, it felt good. It was like a no-doubter. The only bad things What's going to happen in this game was Luther Burden got hurt. I think Cole Komet's okay. He's obviously important. Both those guys are important because Luther Burden looked really good. Then Adunzey got hurt in warmups, which keeps happening to the bears. They're training staff. Something's going on.

What happened in warmups?

What was the- I don't know. But this happened to Kyler Gordon last week. Tried to warm up. Now he's on IR. I'm not going to look at negatives. We don't have to talk a lot about this game because it was such an ass-kicking. There was a little part of me when I woke up this morning, I was like, Oh, don't let the Browns hang around. And they didn't. Not at all. It was just a complete no-doubter. Deandre Swift has been awesome. Picked off Shador three times. Shador got unlucky with the one that Jalen Johnson picked off in the end zone. That was insane. That was a perfect pass.

It should have been a shutdown. Yeah. Also with the Browns, Shador got the wrong wristband to start the game. I don't know how that happens. Crazy. Are they actually sabotaging Shador? I don't know. They gave him a wristband with the wrong plays on it. Now, I put that on the team, and then I put it on Shador for not realizing until three minutes into the game that he had the wrong plays on his wristband. Yes. That's got to be a nightmare where your coach is calling down, you're getting the play call, you're looking at your wristband, and you're so new to the NFL that you're like, Am I fucking this up? Yeah, what's going on here? He probably thought he was fucking it up for a while. But that's a very Browns thing to happen.

Very Browns thing to happen. Miles Garrett, 21. 5 sacks. He's one away from tying the record. It's crazy. He's doing it for a three-win team.

Yeah. For a three-win team that's getting blown out.

Yeah, because the Browns, we talked about, they are competitive for haves. They were not competitive. I think there was at one point, the bears had more first downs and the Browns had plays. That was how... We're watching the game, I was like, Have the Browns? They had one big pass somewhere in the second quarter. Other than that, I don't think they had a first down for the first three quarters.

Would I like to prove that Caleb can play in the cold.

Oh, yeah. It was fucking cold. He's a cold weather quarterback.

He was very cold outside.

No, he looked so comfortable, and it was awesome to see. Again, it's the complete victory that's been eluding the bears where they just took care. The Browns are bad, so it's not like a walk around and like, Do you see that? But if you want to be a good team, you got to beat the shit out of bad teams and not let bad teams hang around. That's exactly what the bears did. Now, the swings in the NFC standings are just It's insane. The bears went from after beating the Eagles on Black Friday, they went to the one seed. Then they went all the way down to the seven seed after losing the packers. Then they're all the way back up to the two seed now. I think it's going to change four more times Because we have big games against the packers on Saturday, then the 49ers, then the lions. Everything's still on the table. The bears still could not make the playoffs. I am fairly confident they will because I think they're a very good team. But everything is still on the table four, which is pretty crazy to say for a 10 and 14.

A very good team. Yeah. The bears have upgraded to very... Where are you at on a scale of 1-10?

I think they're a very good team.

No, but where are you at, personally?

I've been at like a nine and a half for a long time.

Nine and a half?

Yeah, I've been saying that. I've been walking 6 out of 10 went away so long ago. I think it was probably a Steeler's game. That was way longer.

Next week is such a big game. Huge game. Such a big game.

Massive, massive game because that was a shitty loss last week, and now you get to do it again with the packers. The Niners game is going to be massive because of the NFC standings and where the Niners are at.

You guys go two and one, you're in the playoffs, no matter what.

I believe two and one is in the playoffs, no matter what. I think one and two, it could be a problem. Like I said, I said this, I think last week or the week before, there could very well be an 11-win team that doesn't make the NFC playoffs.

Do you think that Caleb is going to get to 4,000 yards?

Probably not, and I don't really care. Okay. That's obviously something eventually he will do. But yeah, this season has been so much fun. I haven't thought about 4,000 yards.

I just didn't look at where he was at, but he's had a good season, so I didn't know if that was in the realm of possibility.

Also, the stat, which was pretty crazy. Let me pull it up. He has thrown the fewest interceptions of any quarterback in NFL history through his first 1,000 passes. That's pretty good. Twelve interceptions through the first 1,000 passes. That's really good. Yeah, he's playing well. Again, just a complete victory is nice to see. Do we think... I love Kevin Stefansky. I think he's a very good coach. It probably feels like this might be it.

I feel like Stefansky, you'd be doing him a favor almost by firing him.

Yeah, I think he probably wants to start something fresh because it's got to be really shitty to coach the Browns.

I think he'd probably get hired immediately if he was fired. I think he would probably last a week.

What is this Miles Garrett celebration going to look like? Because obviously, he's an insane player. He's a Hall of Famer. He's had an incredible season, but there's a good chance he breaks this record on a Sunday afternoon when the Browns are down 24 to 7.

Yeah. The Brown season is pretty much like, get Miles Garrett, the single-season SAC record, and then hope that Shador has the right wristband on. Yeah. Those are the bars that you have to clear in Cleveland.

Hit those boxes and we're good to go. Okay, you want to do a couple of ads, then we'll get to the other four early games.

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Okay. Speaking of easy beating the shit out of teams, Eagles 31, Raiders 0. Max. Felt good, right?

We haven't had a win like that all year.

We had talkative.

We finally got little gay Max.

We got little gay Max, and we had chatty Max, and it was a joy to be around.

It felt good. The Raiders are horrendous, so I'm not going to look too much into it.

They're the worst team in the league. They're horrendous. Honestly, I know we've had this disagreement, PFT. The Raiders are the worst team in the league. I do not think that there's a debate for it.

I agree. The Raiders are so much fun to play against. Every team should get to play against the Raiders.

You're shaking your head.

Today's Jets are the worst.

Dude, the Raiders had 75 yards. That's total. They had seven first downs memes. Let me just repeat that. Seventy-five yards. That's not like that was their one quarter. That was the whole game.

They had 29 yards passing memes.

Seventy-five yards. And this isn't the first. Remember the same thing with the Chiefs, where they had three first downs? They are one of the worst teams ever. It's crazy watching them play.

I take it back.

Yeah. You had the 75 yards. You didn't see that. Seventy-five yards, that's so hard to do in the end of the program.

Brandon Graham looked like he was 22 years old today.

It was crazy. He was flying around. We've had this conversation. I think Kenny Picket is now the most sackable starting quarterback in the NFL. Yeah. He's so sackable.

Yeah. I mean, Pete Carroll's got to be in hell. I don't know why he's still coaching.

Max Crosby's got to be in hell.

Max Crosby's getting upset.

I feel so bad for that guy.

I do, too. The Eagles put in their backup offense with a quarter to play. The Eagles's backup offense memes had 79 yards.

They just ran out the entire fourth quarter. Yeah.

They had four more yards in the starting offense for the Raiders.

Seriani finally listened to the people of Philadelphia, and he bench Jalen Hertz and put Tana McKee in the game. He looked great, right, Max?

Yeah, he did look good.

Taylor McKee did look good.

He did look good. I mean, Jalen Hertz did look good, too. The entire offense looked good. A. J. Brown looked good. Caught a breakdown today. Dallas Godert had an awesome game. It's just playing the Raiders makes you feel so good about your team. But, Max- They should force the Raiders to play against every team in the NFL so that we can all have a week where we think to ourselves like, Oh, football is fun. Yeah.

There's a largest shutout win for the Eagles in 35 years. Max, even though this is the Raiders and They're terrible. We were saying it during the game, two years ago, when you guys had your collapse, you lost to a four-win Cardinals team at home.

So this is-It was three wins at the time. It made it their fourth win.

But this is like, obviously, you're not like, Oh, everything's fixed. But beating teams that are bad this soundly is what good teams should do.

Yeah, it felt good. It felt good. We haven't watched the offense look that way in a while. The Raiders offense, I should have known. I was nervous going into this game just because we haven't seen it. The Raiders offense never was going to have a chance against the Eagles defense. Eagles defense is still very good, and they proved that again today. They were doing some creative play calling, which was nice to see. Two shovel pass, touch downs, which at least it's a little motion. It's something a little different- Something different, yeah. Than the vanilla offense that it has looked like for most of this season. It It was good to see, but it's a fucking rater, so I'm not going to think everything is fixed.

The four highest passer ratings in a game this season. Can you guys name the four quarterbacks? Four highest passer rating games this season. Passer rating is a dumb stat.

Not QBR. We're talking passer rating.

The one that's 158. 3 or whatever? Yeah. Hank, you want to take a guess?

Daniel Jones against the No.

Do you want to take a guess, Hank?

Drake May.

He is one of them. He's the third highest. Jared Goff is the second highest. Jalen Hertz. The fourth and the first are Jalen Hertz. Wow. He has two of the top four passer rating games on the season. Today was the fourth time.

I disagree. I think it's a good stat. It is a good stat. I disagree with what you said.

He looked really good today. He said afterwards, Everybody needs to remember where I come from and how I'm built.

Yeah, all the people who were talking about the Taking a shit, puking, running around five times, and then throwing the ball straight into the ground.

That was a statistical analysis, Max. That was numbers. That wasn't me casting any judgment on Jelen Hertz. Super Bowl champion Jelen Hertz, who you turned your back on after three weeks of this season.

I did not turn my back on.

Three weeks of this season, throwing the entire offense under the bus.

I did not turn my back on.

Did you guys start the game off by standing ovation?

I don't know. There was no volume to that game, but I was looking sound. I was trying to look for it, and the broadcast didn't show it, and I couldn't hear anything. So the answer is no. I don't know. Yeah, probably no.

Yeah, whatever happened today worked. It might have been just playing against the Raiders, but it worked.

Yeah, shout out to Raiders. The Raiders, shout out you guys. They're awesome.

Gronk said it afterwards, they're like Neospore, and you put it and heal all your cuts and loops.

That's a good quote.

I could see Gronk having a off like a chest cold, and he just put some Neosporn on his gums. Yeah.

By the way, should we pull up Tankathon? Because now it's a battle between the Titans, Raiders, and Giants, the two win teams for the first overall pick. Who do we think is going to get the first overall pick. Here are the schedules. Titans play the Chiefs, the Saints, and at the Jaguars. The Raiders play at Texans versus Giants versus Chiefs. And then the Giants play the Vikings at Raiders, the Cowboys. It's basically to come down to the Raiders Giants game.

I think the Titans.

They should flex that game.

I agree.

You think the Titans are going to get?

Yeah. I think so. Yeah. Would you say there's Who has the tiebreaker, though?

No, the Titans don't have the tiebreaker right now.

But the Raiders beat the Titans, didn't they?

No, I think it goes off of win percentage or strength of schedule.

Oh, they don't do head-to-head.

No. The Giants and Raiders play each other, so one of those teams is going to be out, and the other one is probably going to get the first pick.

Doing Doing reverse head-to-head would be a very funny way. If it's tied, well, the team that lost that game, you're clearly the worst. Yeah. Yeah. Looking at the Titans schedule, I feel like the Titans are going to... The Chiefs should beat them, I think.

Yeah.

The Saints, Tyler Shuck. I mean, Shuckster. The Jaguars might be the best team in football right now. Yeah.

They might not be playing for anything. So that might be your chance for the Titans to win. That's true. Jaguars could be firmly-That culture in Jacksonville is so strong.

It is so strong. It probably goes too deep.

All right. Congrats, Max. Easy win. It felt good. Everyone should play the Raiders. The Raiders are so bad. They're just an abysmal team to watch play football.

Mims, did you get to play the Raiders? No. You should. You should write a letter.

The bears barely beat the Raiders.

Yeah, but that was a great game. That was a game where your offense clicked.

Yeah, but it was a tough win. The Raiders, I guess, were still fighting a little bit back then. Pete Carroll has got to retire, right?

I think so.

What are you Do it. This has to be the most miserable experience.

I guess there's going to be the possibility of the Raiders getting the number one pick, and then he might have Mendoza to fuck around with.

I actually think that's when you want to fire him.

Right. But if You're saying if he's going to retire, I think he would want to stick around. I don't know if Tom braided is going to want to stick around.

Yeah, I don't think so. Okay, Commanders 29, Giants 21. Congrats, PFT.

Also, real quick with the Raiders, how about Alex Guerrero now being the official guy with the Raiders?

Yeah, he's been all season.

He's like Brady's eyes and ears on the inside right now.

Yes, it's going well. Commanders 29, Giants 21.

We don't really have to talk about this game that much. It was fun to win one. That's my takeaway from it.

I told you you were going to win this game.

It was fun to win one. Mariotta looked good. Bill ran the ball really well today. I think I've switched to being of the mindset. Ideally, I would like to lose the games and get a better draft pick, but I think it's more important to go out and play well and to show Dan Quinn hasn't actually lost the locker room. Jalen Lane, another punt return, a countdown for him today. He's awesome. A lecture. He's somebody that we can build around. Shout out Ben Bennett, former lowman trophy winner. He looked good today. I thought for the most part, it was a pretty balanced game. Jackson Dart, he's dangerous, but sometimes he does throw his body around. He went to the Blue Tent again today.

Five out of ten games.

Five out of 10 games. That's a lot of Blue Tent. He's gone to the Tent. He came out. He was not too banged up. So we got back at the game, we got to see one snap of Jamis, which was cool. The team is still playing hard, so credit to them. It was fun to win one. Good to not continue that losing streak. And if it's a division rival, I feel like there's always value in beating them twice in a year. Yeah.

The Giants, Abdul Carter looked good for the first time. It was his welcome to the NFL. Yeah, that's why you drafted him. That's what we were promised. He was all over the place. I think he had two strip sacks. One, they recovered. But yeah, the Giants, they should just try to lose. They should try. Although, I guess, trade the first pick? I don't know what to make a Jackson dart. I'm going to say that right now. I think he's good, but the guy's in the blue tent way too much. Yeah, all the time. I don't know what you do with that because part of the reason why he's good is because he makes plays with his feet and he keeps plays alive and he puts himself in precarious situations. I just don't know.

I don't think that you can get a coach that's going to be able to tell him to stop He's not playing like that. He's basically like, Fuck you. That's all I play. Have you ever watched me play football? Watch me play football in middle school. I'm the exact same guy.

Exact same guy. He does feel that way.

But he's fun. I like watching him play.

Who's he dating? He's dating some celebrity, right?

Isn't he? I don't know. Zack?

I think dating Rumors. Who's he dating Rumors? Rumors is the name of the girl? No, I don't know if it's any girl confirmed. Oh, I thought it was a famous person. I I don't think anything confirmed. Got it.

Just Rumors.

I think so. A lot of tweets. Because I just see the Skatebo memes where it's like Jackson Dart is dating this person while Skatebo drinks chocolate milk out of a shoe. They got a lot of... I think it's a lot of Alex Earle's rumors out there. Oh, okay. I think it was fake DMs. I think they were leaking fake DMs. Oh, okay. They were trying to make it where it was, I think. You should be on that beat for us. Yeah, you should be ahead of that beat.

It was all a force, all AI. Tm Zack.

You can be on top of that for us. I can run that for you.

Yeah, love that. Max, I'll see you next week.

Yeah. How are you feeling, boys? Are you nervous about the commanders? Maybe Mariotta.

I'm so glad that the Eagles won this game because they're going to be so happy riding high.

Where's the game?

The game is in DC. Dc, yeah. No, Zack, I think you can confirm this. The Eagles are going to win by 40 points next week, right?

I think it's anybody's game.

We got to see what happens in this Cowboys game.

Are you a little nervous about this game, Max? Cowboys? Oh, yeah. No, not the Cowboys.

Depends on what happens in this Cowboys game.

If the Cowboys lose, you're not nervous?

Because then we just got to win one out of the next three.

But still, you don't want to lose to PFT, right?

Never want to lose. You don't want to lose to anyone.

You don't want to lose to anyone.

Do you think Jaden will be playing? I forgot his name for a second. I'm sorry. Oh, no.

Wow. I have no idea. I I have no idea if he's going to play.

Do you want him to play?

No, I don't think so. There's no chance that he's 100% healthy.

So you want Mariotta revenge game?

Yeah. I mean, Mariotta is a more than capable backup quarterback. I think that if Jaden is 100%, yes, I want him to play, but I don't think that he is. I don't think that he's going to be. But you know what pissed me off? Every time I see Terry McLaurin out on the field catching balls and scoring touch downs, I just wish that I could have seen more of that this year with Jaden on the field at the same time. They haven't really gotten They don't play that much together. It's a bummer. But Terry McLaurin is still very good.

Yeah, he had a touch down today. He was big. Okay, Texans, 40, Cardinals, 20. This is another one, ass-kicking. Texans are really good. Their offense looked great today. C. J. Straub probably had one of his best games, I think second best game of the season. He was pretty much perfect. Nico Collins was as efficient as you could be. I think he had four targets, four catches, 85 yards, and two touch downs.

The game was over immediately. Immediately? Immediately.

They were up 17-nothing, nine minutes into the game.

They kicked the ball off, and the first play of the game, it was like, Okay, Texans are going to stop them.

The Texans are a really good team. They're a dangerous, dangerous team, especially if their offense can look like it looked today because everyone knows their defense is going to be keeping them in every game. If C. J. Stroud can get comfortable and look like C. J. Stroud from a couple of years ago, that's a dangerous team.

And they got a new running back now, to our Jordan.

nick Chubb is hurt. We don't know where Joe Mixon is. And then Woody Marks got hurt again.

I'd like somebody to check on Joe Mixon. I'm concerned now.

He's probably hanging out with Brandon Ayouk somewhere.

Yeah, Jouar Jordan. I think that this was his first game this year, right? His first touches. He went off for 101 yards.

Woody Marks is awesome, but he gets banged up every game.

He does, yeah.

He's always in the 10.

But everything about the Texas offense looked great today. Everything Thinking about the Cardinal's defense looked terrible today.

Cardinals are done. They already were done, but it feels like Jonathan Gana is going to get fired. They got to figure out. I think they're in the third year of a rebuild, and now it's resetting to another rebuild.

Their rebuilds overlap.

Yeah. Trey McBride is awesome. So he back to back, 100 catch, 1,000-yard seasons, which Travis Kelsey never did. It's insane what he's done as a tight end. He had 12 catches today. He also broke the NFL Travis Kelsey streak for consecutive games with five plus receptions for a tight end, 16 straight games. He's awesome. So that's cool. That's a good thing that the Cardinals have. Everything else sucks.

The Cardinals have one or two pieces that you'd like to see here.

Michael Wilson's awesome.

In the Cardinals wildest dreams, what is your perfect offseason as a Cardinals fan? Probably fire Gannon.

Yeah.

Figure out a way to trade Kyler Murray.

Yeah.

Hope that a quarterback gets to in the draft.

Yep.

Hire Josh McDaniels.

Oh.

He's going to get another shot. You think so?

Yeah.

Owners love a guy that's failed twice.

Spectacularly failed twice.

Mcdaniels should stay with the Patriots.

But you think he's going to get another shot?

I think he might.

That would be an interesting-You think he'll take it?

I don't know. He shouldn't.

I don't think he would.

No, I don't know if he would either because he's taking two jobs that I think he'd need a really good quarterback that he believes in.

Well, maybe it's just that, okay, if you look at his past, he went to the Raiders. He went to the Broncos under their old ownership. He needs a place that has stability from the top down, the Arizona Cardinals.

Yes. No, everyone thinks that about the Arizona Cardinals.

Now, this would probably be one of the situations where it's like, okay, he might be interested in a job, just not this one.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. He feels like maybe there's enough self-reflection that... I don't understand why guys who are really good coordinators don't just stay really good coordinators. How awesome do you think Matt Patricia's year has been? He has made... He probably makes over a million dollars, and he gets to coach a team that is better than everyone they play, and he gets to coach their defense and doesn't have to worry about anything else.

Ask Vic Fangio how cool his life is now. Right.

There are certain guys that it's probably so much better. I don't understand why more guys don't say, Hey, this is awesome. We're going to keep doing this. Okay, last game from the early slate, Jaguars, 48, Jets, 20. Memes, I'll get to you in a second. The Jaguars are just good. The Jaguars, I was looking at it. Trevor Lawrence, by the way, had an incredible game. Five touch downs, 330 yards. He ran in for a six-touch down. He had 50 yards rushing. That's actually never been done. First player in NFL history, throw for five touch downs, rush for a touch down, and rush for over 50 yards, which I know is weird parameters, so it would make sense. But still, he was perfect. Travis Etienne was awesome. The Jaguars, since the buy week. So going into the buy week, they were four and three. They scored 19 points a game. Since the buy week, they're six and one. They've scored 32 points a game. Their one loss was that blown lead versus the Texans. Now, they've played a softer schedule, but they're throttling teams, and their offense looks awesome. Liam Cohn is a great coach, and the Jaguars are for real.

They're just killing teams.

Yeah, I think we might have reached the point where Trevor Lawrence might now finally be underrated. Yeah, I would agree. When he got to the league, he was overrated for a long time.

Remember I told you this stat about the Jaguars winning seasons? Yeah. They have five total in the last 20 years, and he has three of them.

I think Trevor Lawrence is one of the most underrated, if not the most underrated, quarterback in the NFL. As crazy as that is to say, that's how good his season has been. I think the Jaguars are for real, too. Their only losses have been, for the most part, really good teams like the Texans. I almost count that as because we don't count comebacks anymore. They had a big lead against the Houston Texans. A great team. They lost to the Seahawks, they lost to the Rams, and then at the start of the season, they lost to the bangles.

Which was remember, that was the weird game with Travis Hunter, the pass interference.

Yep, that was a really strange game. Yeah, I think the Jaguars are for real.

Yeah. Liam Cohen also is four wins away from being fifth all time and wins as a Jaguar's head coach.

Yep.

From passing Gus Bradley, who coached the Jaguars for 62 games, Liam Cohen has coached him for 14.

Yeah, I like the Jaguars. He's a good coach. I like them. They're fun.

Trevor Lawrence is fun. Etienne is fun. They're fucking killing people.

They're a great team. Yeah.

They're leading the AFC South now. They have a tough schedule. Down the stretch, I think they have to play the Broncos next week. But they have the inside track right now on the AFC South, which would be the Jaguars hosting a playoff game.

I'm jagging off. And that pool looks so good today. So good. The Jacksonville pool. Oh, my God. I just want to live in it.

Their uniforms look like the Jaguars are, I think, the highest variant team in terms of their uniforms looking like a complete joke and them looking like a real franchise depending on how they're When they're playing poorly, it's like, What are these uniforms?

It's not real. Candy S. They turn Candy S.

Yeah, them and the Dolphins.

I think that we had the Bradley Cook game today.

Yeah, memes. I saw you wave the white flag.

Yeah. I mean, they put out a CFL defense there.

Yeah, it's not like the Jets gutted their defense. What are you going to do? Well, they got to their defense and everybody's hurt on defense.

We have practice squad on practice squad guys playing.

It was nice that Bradley Cook got that first touch down. They showed his family. That was cool.

Yeah, that was cool.

He just got in the season. Jets are not good.

Yeah, he threw for an NFL shutdown today. That was a special moment for the Cooke's.

Are you looking for that tank-athon? Where are you guys going to end up?

We're at five.

There's a path to the one. There is a path to the one if you lose out. Yeah. We're going to lose out. Who do you have left?

Saints next week.

Important game. Tyler Shuck. Then it's Patriots.

Bills. Yeah. Would you trade-Okay, that's a lose out. How many spots of draft position would you trade to beat the Patriots? We just can't beat the Patriots.

I don't think so. This team is dog shit.

We can't beat Dick. Oh. Can't beat Dick. Can't.

Can't beat Dick. Aaron Glenn said, Very disappointed on a number of different levels. A lot of disappointment.

A lot of levels.

A lot of levels, a lot of disappointment. Makes sense.

Special teams look good. Yeah, special teams always look good.

I almost would make him the head coach, but this is one of those losses where I was like, I don't care if the entire coaching staff gets fired. Wait, he just got- I know, but I'm just saying that's how down on this team I am. I just don't think it matters. But I also think that Aaron Glenn, you can't judge him when you trade your best two defensive players.

Correct.

I mean, that's not- You can judge his defensive coordinator, though. Yes. They just back to back week You play two good teams for the first time in forever. You got to have them at least prepared to play. Yeah. I just think trading Quinn and Williams and Sauce Gardner and then saying, Wow, we're getting our ass kicked. No, duh. It's a big no, duh moment.

Yeah, but you were already getting your ass kicked.

Yeah, but it's the end of the season. It's just you're getting your ass kicked.

It's no, duh. Yeah, I wish the season ended after the Falcons game. Do you get any joy joy at all of watching these Jets?

No.

The A. D. Mitchell. I get joy out of watching A. D. Mitchell play, but that's about it. Do you get any joy just at all during the game? I guess a better way to ask it, do you feel pain during the game? Or are you just completely numb? No. It just don't care.

That's a good place to be.

Yeah, the stranger.

Yeah, you can't get hurt.

You can't beat dick. Can't beat dick.

Can't beat dick.

But I want to care.

Right. You just can't.

You can't. You can't care.

You just can't.

Do you have just a daydream of what your perfect offseason looks like?

Every night.

What does it look like now?

Maybe Fernando Mendoza is a guy. Oh, I think he might be.

No, but you can't trade up because you need all the pics. You have so many pics, though. We have so many pics, but you can't trade up.

Yeah, you're right. You can't.

There's so many holes. Yeah. We have all the holes.

You have all the holes and you can't beat dick. No. You got no dick and you have all the holes. What a terrible place to be.

Yeah.

There's just holes everywhere and no dick in sight.

They beat this Jaguar team last year, a year ago today by a couple of touch downs, and then today you lost by four touch downs. Yeah.

Complete regression. So many holes.

No dick. No dick. No quarterback. My kingdom for a dick.

This is a really good jet's recap. All the holes, no dick. It just is what it is. Okay, let's get to the afternoon games. Before you do that, PFT, you have two more ads you want to hit.

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Okay, to the afternoon. Rams 41, Lyons 34, points, points, points. Lyons, it felt like emptying the clip in the first half and the Rams figuring it out in the second half. And then shutting them down defensively. The Rams defense showed up in the second half. The third quarter, Rams had 179 yards to the Lyons, 5 yards. It was clear that they were like, Hey, we're not going to let Jamir Gibbs beat us, which they didn't. Amonra went off. But the Rams are a scary, scary team because there was multiple times during this game, and I said this on Friday, it's the old Dan Marino, there's no defense for a perfect pass. What Stafford and Puka have going on right now, there's nothing you can do. You could play perfect defense, and Matthew Stafford will still get the ball to Puka Naku, and Naku will make the catch.

Yeah, Naku, he's playing mad now, too. He's running extremely angry when he has the ball. I thought that the Rams looked like the Rams have all season. Matt Staffard had one play that he probably wishes he could take back, that pick to Aiden Hutchinson, which was an incredible play by Hutchinson. Then he got chased down, trying to get to the end zone, ran out of gas a little bit there. But overall, I thought that Matt Stafford played the perfect Matt Stafford game that he's capable of. And besides that one game against the Panthers this year, that's what he's done all season long. The Rams are probably the best team in the NFC, I would say. I I would agree. I would put them as my number one. I've been going back and forth between them and the Seahawks.

Seahawks would get to the Seahawks have looked not great offensively. It's the Rams.

They're the class of the NFC.

We're going to find out on Thursday night when they play each other, which I wish this game was not a Thursday night game because it's the two best teams right now, record-wise in the NFC, and you get short rest, and it's stupid, and it's late in the season. Give us this on Sunday or Monday. But yeah, the scariest part about the Rams is you have the Stafford part where he's been there, done that. Like I said, he's playing with Pukunakuwa. They're on a different level in terms of a wide receiver, quarterback in lockstep with each other. They can run the ball. Kyron Williams had, I think, two touch downs in this game. Blake Coram was running the ball. They have two backs. They can run the ball, and their defense can turn it on. The lions were winning this game at halftime. They were up a countdown.

With the Rams, also, They had a great drive in the first half to get a field goal, yes. Which was massive for them.

But they were winning this game at halftime lines, and then they come out in the second half, and the Rams defense forced three consecutive three and outs, and that was it. That That's what they can do to a team. It does feel like they're the most complete team, actually, probably in the NFL. I mean, the Broncos looked incredible today, which we'll talk about, but they look like the most complete team in the NFL. You have the coach-quarterback combo that have been there, done that, that you feel pretty confident going into the playoffs.

I agree with that. I don't think that the lines are bad at all. I think the lines are a very good team. I think that with the Rams defense, they are a very good unit, and you're not going to stop the lines from scoring points. No. The Lyns are going to get theirs, but they stopped them enough. I think the Lyns beat almost any other team in the NFL if they play like they did today.

The Lyns, they did control their own destiny going into this game. They no longer control their own destiny. But If they win out, they should be in. But you don't know.

Yeah. So they get the Stealers, they get at the Vikings, and then at the bears. Yeah.

So if they win out, it might be the bears at the bear's expense because the bears would probably have to... If the bears win two of their last three but lose the lions, they'll be okay because the lions can't get to twelve wins.

But that last game, that's a playoff game.

Yeah. Well, what happened today is the bear minimum for the bears is that they will be playing in week 18. If they lose their next two games, the lions win their next two games, week 18 will be a win and get in. So the bears can't be eliminated before week 18.

Yeah. Again, I think the lines are-What's that? They might It ended up being, whoever doesn't make the playoffs in the NFC is going to be a really good team.

I was just going to say that guarantees a payoff game because then week 18 is a payoff.

It is, yes. Week 18 does count. And hopefully, it doesn't get to that because I would like the bears to take care of business before that.

Home payoff game, though.

They have the chance to take care of business before that. But yeah, that's what happened today.

Home playoff game would be huge for Chicago.

Yeah. Week 18. And that's the bare minimum. If the bears win the next two games, then that won't be the case for week 18. But yeah, the lions are up against it. They have to win it. They They have to win their next two games to have that opportunity.

Yeah, I think whoever ends up being on the outside, the number eight team in the NFC, is going to be a very good team.

Yeah, it's crazy looking at the NFC.

It's going to be either the lions, the packers, The Niners.

The Niners are... Or the Bears. The Niners could be the one-seat.

Yeah.

If the Seahawks beat the Rams on Thursday night, I'm pretty sure the Niners control their own destiny for the one seat.

Coach of the Year?

Kyle Shanaher?

That's probably not a bad bet.

I think it's got to be Liam Cohen, Vrabel, or Ben Johnson.

But if the Seahawks beat the Rams on Thursday Night Football, and then the Niners win out, and they get the one seat overall. After everything the Niners have been through, I feel like Kyle Shanaher would be- But you know how the Coach of the Year works.

I do. It's a team that wasn't supposed to be good that has a newer coach.

But counterpoint for Kyle Shanahan, he's never Coach of the Year. He hasn't? No, that's a big narrative, too. Okay. If they finished with the one seat, I feel like they'd have to give it to him.

Yeah, I just think they always give it to the team that just completely overperforms expectations and is a newer Never. Let's go back. So Kevin O'Neill won it last year. That was a 14-win team, newer coach. Kevin Stefansky won it because the Browns won 11 games. Brian Dable won it, 9-7. That was another one where new coach team that wasn't expected. Vrabel won at 2021 with the Titans.

Number one seed.

Number one seed. Stefansky with the Browns in 2020, another one of those situations. Harbaugh is the last guy who was established for a Very long time. He won it in 2019 when they were 14 and 2. The year before that, Matt Nagui, similar situation. First year, overperforms. Mcvay, the year before that, first year, overperforms. I think it's going to be a coach that is newer and overperforms. What are the odds on draft games? You're probably right.

I think Kyle is probably down there. He's probably like 18 to 1. It's not right now.

Yeah, but it's got to be some combination of Rable, Liam Cohen, Ben Johnson. Who am I forgetting? Maybe Mike McDonald, depending on.

Yeah.

I mean, Sean Payton- But you could also make the argument that this is maybe Kyle Shayan's best season as a coach. Yeah. We have the Niners game last, but yeah, they're very much alive for the one seed. So the Rams, though, the Rams can Control their own destiny for the one seed. If they win on Thursday, they're pretty much cruising to it because I think their last two games are the Falcons and the Cardinals, I believe. So they win on Thursday, and it'll be very hard for them not to get the one seed.

T-shirt and hat on Thursday. T-shirt.

Is it? No, it can't be because the Niners... No, you might be right. You might be right. You might be right. If they win Thursday... No, that can't be right because if the Niners win out and the Rams lose lose out, the Niners would have-They would have two wins over the Rams. Yeah, but the Niners would have a better record overall.

If the Rams beat the Seahawks, they'd be 12 and 4. Right. And what are the Niners at right now?

No, they're 12 and 3. They would be 12 and 3. The Niners have four losses.

Niners have four losses. Yeah. So they could get to third.

Yeah. Yeah, right. If the Rams lost their last two games.

So close to T-shirt hacking.

Close. It would be driver's seat. And same goes with the Seahawks. Seahawks, which we could talk about. Seahawks 18, cold 60. Not a exactly inspiring game from the Seahawks, but they got it done. I loved watching this game. We got Phil Rivers down a score late in the game.

We got it twice.

Twice. I've been gambling a long time for over 20 plus years. I think laddering Phil Rivers to 280 yards might have been the worst bet I've ever made in my life.

It made every throw exciting, though.

I got swept up in the moment. I was so excited to see our guy Phil back out there. He was out there. He ran the offense decently well. His mind is obviously still there. He was making checks. He was making the right reads.

The arm is not the best. I mean, the way we're talking about does sound like a grandfather.

Listen, the ducks. He was throwing ducks every... He was throwing five-yard out ducks.

He's still very sharp. Mentally, he's all there. He still gets it.

He still has his driver's license.

He's very alert.

Yeah. I call him and he knows what day it is.

He gets around great.

These things. Yeah. He's responsible for himself. He remembers all of his grandkids' birthdays. All these things are still happening.

His rib protector or whatever he was wearing today, didn't do him any favors at all. You look like the Michelin man. It did give him the dad bod body. But I cherished every second of Philip Rivers. I cherished every of the 120 yards that he threw for. I loved it. I love seeing him out there. When he got excited after throwing that shutdown pass, that was very cool. He did the kick. He did the kick. He did the kick. They flashed to the pizzeria where he coaches in that small town, and all the kids were watching their coach play football. That's a cool moment. I loved what... Phillip Rivers played good enough to win this game.

We found out before that he took some cleats from a trophy case. That's what he's wearing. Yeah, he played good enough. He did Everything you would expect a 44-year-old Philip Rivers who had not played a football game in 1,800 days. 1,800 days. Beautiful number, by the way. The fact they showed that and it was on the dot, 1,800 days, that's pretty cool.

He had that one play where he just fell down in the pocket because he got scared and then got up and started running again. Listen, I hope that we get Philip Rivers for the last three games of the season. I hope he finishes healthy. Hope he starts next year. I think he's probably going to be limited to throwing within 30 yards downfield.

Let's get Let's get him indoors. Listen- Let's get him indoors. Let's see what he does indoors. It's hard being outside when you're older.

Josh Downs had that one. He would have been a legend for catching it. I know. It felt like the longest pass in the world that Philip Rivers through. It was probably 25 yards downfield. It might as well have been a Hill Mary, though. Josh Downs, he just didn't get his head around on it.

The throws he was making where it was like a check down to the far side, sideline, and he had to put everything into it.

Everything. Everything. He put his whole ass into every throw. Everything. For the first pass of the game, I was not expecting much after that first pass.

No, that was immediately, I think I said out loud in the gambling game, I've made a huge, huge mistake, and I think they could have played for another six quarters, and I probably would have gotten it.

But he figured it out. Again, he's not the reason why they lost that game.

No, they lost because... Listen, Sam Darnold, the Seattle offense was bad. They were Two for 13 on third down, which is 15. 4%. That was the lowest percentage on third down for a winning team this year. So they were bad, but they did just enough. Jsn was awesome in the second half, ended up with 113 yards. Sam Darnold did have some very nice field goal drives, big moments. But yeah, I don't know what to think of the Seahawks' offense because their defense obviously is very, very good. I don't know what to think of their offense. I guess they had a good second half last week against the Falcons, but that was also a kick return.

As a long time Sam Darnold defender, Sam Darnold apologist, I've started to develop some cracks the last couple of weeks, the last few weeks.

You're getting a little scared for-We're in December, and December is not a good thing.

It's the opposite of Toyotathon. He doesn't look great. I would be worried if I was a Seahawks fan about the playoffs. I think that the Seahawks are still a very team. Their defense is incredible. Jason Meyer is obviously a great kicker, won the game for you today. I would be worried about Sam's limitations against good teams in the playoffs.

Thursday night is going to just be a massive, massive game because that's the game that if they can get home field advantage, it's like, all right, now you feel a little more comfortable. If they get the one seat, you only got to win two games. They're both in Seattle.

I fucking loved watching Philip Rivers today, though.

It was so much fun.

It made me feel like maybe I'm not 40. Philip Rivers is still out there playing football, man.

I felt young again. He said, He said, Afterward, hopefully my son's in those ball players that I'm in charge of at the school. They'll say, Crap, Coach wasn't scared. Can you actually play the Philip Rivers quote? It was great. I fucking love him. Yeah. It just You felt like we had lost. When Phil Rivers retired, we talked about it on the show how we were losing a joy of our NFL Sundays. To get it back, it's almost like we watched the Rolling Stones or when I go see Dead & Company at the Sphere, you're like, It's not the same, but it's cool because in principle, it is. You're watching the same thing. You know it's not the same.

I saw some Line with Rome.

Yeah, it was cool. It was cool. All right, yeah, play it. I think maybe it will inspire or teach not to run or be scared of what may may not happen. Hopefully, certainly, I think of my sons and those ball players that I'm in charge of at the school that they'll say, Crap, Coach wasn't scared. It's like, shoot, sometimes there is doubt, and it's real. Again, the guaranteed safe bet is to go home or to not go for it. And the other one is, shoot, let's see what happens. I hope that in that sense, that it can be a positive to some young boys or young people. It doesn't have to be boys. I love it. He's right. He is 100 % right. Take a risk. I love it, Phil. Take the jump. Phil Rivers.

I love it. I feel bad for the Colts. They started 7-1.

Then they went Savage.

Then they went Savage, and then they apologized for going Savage. And now they're 8-6. They need to go 2-1 against the Niners, the Jaguars, and at the Texans. So no. It doesn't look great for the Colts. No. It doesn't. Credit to Hank. He said it before. Everything looks so good.

Credit to you, Hank. Thank you.

I don't know what they're going to do. I was very close to having to stop swear for the rest of the football season. Yeah. Very close.

And coming in a cup.

Well, that's only if I accidentally swore. Which you would have. Which I would have swore. A hundred %. Would that have been even if I caused off the podcast?

I think it would have been on the podcast, but all it would have had to do is Hank saying one thing and you say, Shut the fuck up, Hank.

That's true. You could have baited me into baiting.

It would have happened so fast.

The old double bait. It was fun. I hope we get to see it for three more weeks. I hope that Philip Rivers stays healthy. I thought that the cold Stephens played awesome today. They played really well. Six field goals, right? Yep. From Myers?

Yeah, he was sick. Also, I apologize to Blake Groupie. I put some negative things on his name. He had a 60-yarder, which that That was a little... Maybe if you want to nitpick the Colts, I've never seen a team play more for a field goal than they did with a minute and a half left. It was a 60-yarder. They're like, Yeah, we're good enough. It's good. We're not even going to try to get this first down.

Then when Phil got the ball back at the end of the game, I think Memes was in here watching it with me, and I was like, Memes, Philip Rivers interception minus 500 right now because they had to try to throw the ball downfield. They had, what, 20 seconds left in the game. They had to try to get downfield. Phil, he put his whole ass into that last throw. Pretty easily picked up. I'm not counting that as interception against Philip Rivers' name. I'm not going to do it. No.

It was great. It was nostalgic. It was fun. We love our grandpa, and they get to play Monday Night Football.

I love that.

Monday Night Football in Indianapolis, Phil Rivers. Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Let him play. Don't bring in Riley Leonard. There was someone who pointed out, which I have to agree with. They were like, This is the state of our quarterbacks and what the college game is producing that a 44-year-old Phil Rivers is better than anything else. Yeah, about that. It's fair.

I love watching Philip Rivers. I hope he plays. Again, I'm not complaining about Philip Rivers. I think there have to be one or two quarterbacks out there that don't have jobs that are like, What's going on right now?

Yeah, but it's also because he knows Shane Steiken's offense, and he's running it in high school. He does. Oh, man. So much fun. God damn it, I love him. He looked so in that jacket.

That defense is a mess out there.

He looked so fucking fat.

You all sorry. You all sorry. The kick. Beat the crud out of him.

Doing the kick, screaming at everyone, throwing a countdown, ladder it to the moon, never having a shot That's what I thought. That, yeah.

He didn't see the kick.

Oh, man. I fucking love him. It's just so many Sundays.

You know what it was?

That we got to see this guy do this.

It's seeing that in motion. That arm motion from a quarterback makes me feel things. Yeah.

Oh, he slipped one in today? Yeah. I can't remember. It was in the first half. He slipped one in that was so perfectly Phil Rivers. It was like a three-yard pass. It was...

Yeah, fuck me. That's what Phil does. Always slips it in.

I hope his son is awesome. Or one of them. Gunner. All of them.

Gunner? Gunner Rivers. Gunner Rivers is the best college quarterback name ever. Texas quarterback. He needs to be Texas Tech's quarterback. Yeah.

Okay, next up. Bronco34, packers 26. The big news out of this game, obviously, is Micah Parsons, Fear Dev, and ACL tear. Christian Watson also hurt. Bad day, bad third quarter for the packers. That was about as demoralized utilizing as the packers could get in one quarter. They were handling the Broncos, and they were up 24-13 in that deep shot to Christian Watson that Patrick Stratan picks off because he's nasty. He gets hurt. And then non-contact injury for Michael Parsons. The packers are in some deep trouble, especially because they're all in player. That's their all in player, and he might have torn his ACL.

Yeah, that's a bummer for them. I know it breaks you up, too, Big Cap.

I wish I could turn injuries off.

Because you want to beat the packers at full strength, right? Yeah.

If I could say that this game doesn't count, I would, but unfortunately, the game counts.

Credit to Bo'Nicks. Bo'nicks had his perfect game today.

He was so good.

302 yards, four touch downs, no pitch, didn't get sacked a single time today.

Dude, he was evading everything.

He was dominant.

He was so good at evading and keeping his eyes downfield and hitting guys downfield. And that fourth down throw, which wasn't the game winner because I don't know what happened at the end of the game where the packers just kept on getting the ball back. It just kept on happening. It was like, Oh, the game's over. Oh, no, it's not. That fourth down throw on the sideline to Courtland Sutton was so sick. It That was a big boy throw.

What happened was somehow the packers, they threw a pick with... How much time was left in this game? 6: 38 left. And then the Broncos went three and out. Then the... Or no, they turned over on downs. Then the packers turned over on downs. Then the Bronkers turned it over on downs. Then the packers turned it over on downs. Then it was the end of the game. So it was like punters were not on the field. Everybody was going for It was a great football game. And start off with a fight before the game, too, which you knew that these teams were going to go out there and fuck each other up for a little bit. It was a great football game. And this was the signature Bo'Nicks win. If this Bo'Nicks shows up in the players, then Everybody's in trouble. Danger. They're going to beat everybody in the NFL if they get games out of Bo Nicks like this.

And they're now standing alone at the one seed. Hank, are you nervous about the Broncos? Because playing a mile high is just different. Yeah.

If they have the one seed, I would be nervous.

They looked good today. They did. Bo Nicks picked it up big time. He was phenomenal.

They're a good team.

Very good team. I think they're the best team in football with good Bo. The way Bo Nicks is playing right now, Heisman. Yeah. Heisman.

Yeah, this is the year.

This is the year for him.

He's focused. He's determined. The packers are in trouble, it feels like. Was I clicking on some of packers Twitter and seeing the meltdown and seeing the hyperbole of this sets them back five years, which I do not believe. It's a pretty significant injury because, again, you're all in. You don't have a draft pick next year. Was I clicking on that? Yeah, maybe I was. Did I see that one guy, that one packer fan who had posted a laughing emoji when Roma Dunzé was ruled out at 11: 30 this morning, and then had that happen? Yeah, I did. But I wish I could turn the injuries off. That's what I'll say. I do. That's very big of me. I mean, injuries suck. I did click on a lot of packers Twitter and just check in on my friends, was enjoying some reading. But the honest truth is injuries suck, and injuries can happen to any team. I'm not like, Oh, yes, Michael Parsons is hurt. You're going to get... Your own team is going to get injuries eventually, and it will suck, and it will be demoralizing. So, yeah, the whole thing is shitty.

He's just the one guy that you really didn't want. I don't think they're set back five years, but I do think that this is the one guy besides probably Jordan Love, that if he got hurt, you could be like, Well, there goes next year.

Well, they looked like a true Super Bowl contending team, and Micah Parsons is the biggest part of their defense. Christian Watson is what made their offense look so explosive when he came back from his... He gets injured a lot. It sucks for him. He just obviously got back from the ACL. Jordan Love looked good in the first half. He was making the Jordan Love throws. That throw to Josh Jacobs for the countdown was insane. But yeah, this definitely changes the... It shakes up the NFC.

I think maybe my favorite offensive lineman to watch is Quin Minors for the Broncos. He was just a fucking bully, just pushing people over. He's a joy to watch on the off. When he plays physical, that running game is great. Sean Payton is calling almost perfect games right now. It's just all about if you get the good bow or the bad bow.

Yeah, the good bow has been here for a little bit. He's been around. And the Broncos are... My big thing with the Broncos was that they were toying with a lot of bad teams, but the last couple of weeks, they're starting to put together those complete games and rounding into form and peaking at the right time.

Yeah.

Do you feel bad about Michael Parsons, Max?

Yeah. I don't mind Michael Parsons anymore. He's on the Cowboys.

If he was on the Cowboys, would you be cheering for his injury?

No, I wouldn't be cheering for his injury.

We don't cheer for injuries here.

The way you asked me that, I thought it implied that I dislike Michael Parsons.

If Michael Parsons got hurt while he was on the Cowboys, would you click on some of the Cowboys Twitter and just read some of the tweets?

Oh, yeah.

You My job is to learn what's going on in the league.

I'm having a good time looking at a Cowboys Twitter right now. Yeah, it's pretty good. Cowboy Twitter has been talking some fucking shit.

It's pretty good. There's a lot of there goes the season, season's over. No, for the Packers Twitter. Last week, after they beat the bears, there was a lot of the bears, there goes the bear's season. So it changes fast. It's week to week league.

And, Max, congratulations. I think I already congratulated on you a couple of weeks ago The Philadelphia Eagles will win the NFC East. The first repeat winner of the NFC East since 2005? Still got to win a football game. 2006? Still got to win a football game. We got a hat and t-shirt game in DC next week, right? Next Saturday?

Next Saturday will be a hat and t-shirt game.

It's going to be the worst day of my sports life.

You might shock the world.

It's going to be the worst. I'm being set up for such a bad day. It's better for you to lose.

It's better for you to lose.

Why?

He's talking about JMU as well, though.

No, I'm not talking about JMU.

No, but I'm saying back to back.

He's talking about JMU.

It's a bad lineup for me. Bad lineup. But it could be the best day. Fuck it. Let's just go beat Oregon. Just worry about JMU. Let's go beat Oregon.

Just worry about JMU.

You worry about Vilanova.

Yeah, Villanova is a big football game next week.

Pft, there's going to be some overlap. When the Commanders and the Eagles are on and JMU, which game do you want to have sound? Jmu?

At what point in the JMU game is this going to be?

It's going to be right at the beginning because I assume the Bear's Packers. When the Bear's Packers starts 50 minutes after JMU, so we can probably go to Bear's Packers sound.

The Eagles are going to be up 36 to 17. I want the Commander's Sound off, and then hopefully, J. M. U. Gets off to a seven-nothing lead before everything goes to shit. Okay. And then I can have a moment where I'm like, We're actually going to do this. And then that's when the bears come on, and I'm going to bet a lot of money on the bears game to try to win back some of my joy that I lost in the first two games. Okay, that's fair. That's my game plan for Megaday on Saturday. Megaday is going to be great.

We've been calling it- And then Villanova versus Illinois State. Oh, yeah.

Who can we get?

Fcs matters.

These two teams don't like each other. Megaday.

We've been talking about Megaday, and I pointed out that Megaday, which we will be streaming all day Saturday, is significantly less games than our usual every single Sunday.

But it's Meg in terms of the importance of these games. It an important day. To our personal happiness and mental health.

Yes, it is mega. Absolutely mega. Bo'nicks, man. That fourth quarter throw, man. He's good.

He's good.

He's good. The way he abides. He He's really... Fundamentally, he just keeps his shoulder's perfect placement. When he's running around in the backfield, then he squares up and throws a dart somewhere downfield. And they got good players. They got good pass catchers. We weapons.

I liked his line after the game when they were asking about being underdogs. He's like, We're overdogs. They're overdogs. They don't listen to the underdog narrative.

Okay, so they're overdogs.

So they're making themselves overdogs. Got it. Which is, some coaches They're like, Hey, I would like to be an underdog because then you don't want that rat poison. We're the overdogs. Bo Nicks is chopping up the lines of rat poison, cutting them with Bocaine, snorting them. Yeah, I'm the fucking Bover dog. Get used to it.

Do we have an update on Christian Watson? Because because he went to the hospital, which that is scary. I feel like he... I'm not a doctor, but it felt like he might have broken his collarbone. But they said chest, so I don't know.

That's not good. No.

So he went to the hospital. Hopefully, he's okay. He is a big... I mean, Matthew Golden is going to step up, but that's a different player, too. Oh, did you guys see the halftime show of the year? No. Mutton Bustin.

Oh, I love Mutton Bustin.

We had a sheep being corralled by a dog, a sheep dog, and then a kid on a sheep fall flat on his face. This is all halftime of the Broncos game.

It's awesome. I heard that there was a sheep that got away, too.

Yeah, this is the sheep that got away, and they're chasing it. But then they brought the... They're like, Wait, we have a dog for this. We have a cattle dog. And the cattle dog comes, and he just starts fucking whipping them up.

Taking care of business.

This is all going to halftime of the NFL game.

Dude, that dog's got excellent pursuit. Yeah. Look at the angle.

Dogs going crazy. Dogs getting the sheep back into its spot. And then look at the bottom part of this. There's a kid who comes. I guess he's riding a sheep, and he just falls flat on his face.

Oh, that's great.

It was a lot of action. For a halftime show of an NFL game. The sheep jumping, hurtling. If I were to-Shoutal Broncos, Mutton Busting rocks.

If I were to change one thing about Mutton Busting, I would do the one that has the monkey dressed up in the cowboy outfit that's riding on the back of the sheep dog. That takes it to the best level possible. I agree with that. That's my favorite sporting event.

I'm all in on this sheep dog.

Oh, dude, the dog is awesome. This is a beast. Yeah, he knew exactly what he was supposed to do.

He even slipped a little bit at first. That didn't knock him off track at And then he just- And then as soon as he does his job, he's just laid down.

He's like, lay down. I'm good. Good boy. Yeah.

Good boy. That dog pays attention to details. That's a slot receiver. That's Austin Colley.

People definitely And then people get those dogs, and they're like, Why does my dog have so much energy? That's what that dog should be doing.

Yeah. Every dog, if you own an Australian Shepherd, a Blue Healer, a border Colley, you should be just releasing them onto an NFL field at halftime. Yeah.

Okay. Broncos, one seed. So next week, they have a big game against the Jags, and then the Chiefs, obviously, with Gardner Minchew and Chargers. Chargers, both teams could be set in the playoffs in their spot. Could be a meaningless game, although the Broncos could be playing for the one seed still. The Broncos have the tiebreaker against the Patriots. Is that right?

I believe they do, right? They do. Okay. So the road right now goes through Denver.

The road goes through Denver unless they slip up. The road goes through. Tough, tough place to play. That's a really good, complete football team. The Broncos being good again, it's fun. There's something about games at Denver that just feel different and just They're fun to watch.

Especially if they're wearing the throwback uniforms, too.

Yeah, back to back to playoff. I think it's the first time. I mean, they're going to win the AFC West for the first time in a long... Since what? 2015, probably?

Yeah.

Payton.

That's got to be it. And so right now, it would be the Texans.

Or no, 2014?

It would be the Texans at the Patriots. It would be the Bills at the Jaguars.

What was that face, Hank? A bit tough game. They're all tough games. Playoffs. Playoffs. Playoffs are tough games. What would the NFC be right now?

Nfc would be packers at bears right now. Okay.

No, 49ers. Here we go. Bear's 49ers. What? Oh, no, you're right. You're right. You're right.

Packers, bears. It would be packers at bears. It would be 49ers at eagles. Oof.

Brock Pretty revenge.

A little throwback.

That'll be a good game. That'll be a good football game.

Are you scared of the 49ers?

I respect everyone.

Yeah, that's a good answer. I respect everyone? I respect the fuck out of everyone.

I respect the commanders, yeah.

You shouldn't.

I don't know. Well, let's talk about them. I don't know if I respect the Panthers, if they're favorites. Saints 20, Panthers 17. Panthers, as favorites, yet again, do not win or cover. They're 0-12 in their last 12 games as favorites. They haven't won or covered as a favorite since 2022. Stop making them favorites.

You're doing them a disservice.

They got shucked. Tyler Shuck, dude. Something about him. I'm telling you, the Saints were in the running this season for being worst team. They were most lost team. They were the team that, Oh, they have no future. Tyler Shuck might be the real deal And their defense is balling out. Kelen Moore seems like a good coach. The Saints should get in the playoffs. They beat the Bucks in the Panthers in back-to-back tweaks. That's one and two.

They beat the Panthers twice now.

I know. They should win in the NFC South. They should get the NFC South.

If you go perfect in your division, you should win that division. They lost the Bucks earlier. I know, but still. That was pre-Shuck. Yeah, it was pre-Shuck.

Everything post-Shuck should count. Shuck should be a playoff quarterback this year.

Agreed. Chuck, now he passed. Spencer Rattler, he is now the Saints rookie record holder for quarterbacks in terms of yards. Charlie Smith, their place kicker, after the game, he won the game for him. Demario Davis came up to the interview and goes, They should make a movie about this guy. I looked into Charlie Smith's career, where he came from. I agree with DeMario Davis. They probably should. Demario Davis first kicked in American football on August 22nd, 2023.

That's crazy.

Yeah, two and a half years ago. So he's from Ireland. He was a Gaelic football player. He was a goal tender, and he would just go out and kick the Gaelic football over the uprights, and he would do that for fun. He'd watch NFL. He'd watch Red Zone. He'd be like, I'd like to do this one day. He sent an email to inquiries@nfl. Com back in 2019. I don't think anybody responds to that email address, but he was just like, Hey, how do I become an NFL place kicker? Because I think I'd be good at it. Didn't hear back from anybody. He finally got in the international program or whatever back in 2023, and then he first kicked on August 22nd, 2023. Then he gets in against the Dolphins hits a 56 yarder, recovers his own onside kick, and then he kicks a game winner. This guy rocks. This guy rocks. Charlie Smith is a fucking legend. That's awesome. I can't help but think maybe some Tyler Shucks rubbing off on him. Dude. This Tyler Shucks winning winner. The Shuckster. He's really fun to watch.

He's starting to look like the guy. Chase Young said that, starting to look like the guy.

He's whipping that arm around.

He has the most wins in this quarterback class.

I know.

Started six weeks ago. His three wins. There's something about Shuck. Dude, he throws a catchable ball. He makes plays. He gets better as the game goes on. He had the game-winning drive. Well, two of them, they're on 1710, takes him down the field, and then gets the ball back. Perfectly baited them into that flag, too.

Oh, on the slide?

Yeah, on the slide with 12 seconds left. The Shuckster, man. If you're a Saints fan, you have something to look I'm forward to.

You know what he is? Shuck's twitchy. Yeah.

He's got those fast feet, fast hips. I maintain if people knew how to pronounce his name, I think he'd be a bigger deal. I really do. It's just the fact that his name doesn't make any sense still.

I feel like when we had Mel Kiper on last year before the draft, he was saying that Tyler Shuck was going to be really good.

Not Mel Kiper, Tom McShay.

I remember that specifically. I was like, All right, Tyler Shuck.

I think Tyler Shuck might have been the guy that made Mel Kuyper cry.

Yeah. Yes.

When Shuck got drafted, Mel Kuyper, What are we doing? Yeah.

Zack, your team got a nice bounce from this. The Bucks went from 53% to 76% with this loss. If they win next week, they have a 95% chance of making the playoffs. They just keep locking into these things.

I think if the regular season was 25 games long, I think the Saints win the Super Bowl.

Yeah, I'd agree.

Yeah. That did feel like an early Christmas gift. It was like, Here you go. Yeah.

Punch this one up. Let's get you guys to the playoffs. It's the Steven Shay effect. You could count the Bucks out a million times, and then things will just keep happening that put the Bucks in a better position. They're going to win the NFC South, and he's going to say, Dominance continues.

Did it feel dirty, rooting for the Saints?

Yes. You got a roof or you got a roof. I did it wholeheartedly, yes. Yeah. I shouldn't have, but I did because We're trying to get in, boys. Yeah, trying to get in. Okay, last game. Sorry, we'll do Sunday football real quick. But 49ers, 37. Titans, 24. The 49ers are better than Titans. That's it.

Yeah, George Kidda looked awesome today.

George Kiddil looked awesome. He had a really good quote, too, about Brock Purdy after the game. He said, He's that Jesus Christ lizard running on water, no ball security, fake pitching at the end of a 40-yard run, absolutely just diabolical behavior by our QB1. I love it. Jesus Christ lizard.

The Jesus Christ lizard. I think there is a Jesus lizard. It's the one that does sprint across the water.

Yeah, that's what he is.

That's what Brock Purdy is. The 49ers look really good. I think there's enough that you can watch from the Titans if you're a Titans fan where you're like, Well, we didn't get our ass kicked that bad today. Kim Ward had a couple of nice throws. By the way, thank you to Kyle Shanahan for kicking that field goal at the end of the game. Yes. Good stuff, Kyle. We appreciate That's why you are my coach of the year this year. That was a massive field goal. But yeah, the 49ers, they're a legitimately really good team. Yeah.

We did have a weird story with Brandon Ayuk being put on the reserve/left Squad list, and they asked Kyle Shannon about it afterwards. He said, We haven't seen him in forever. That's the decision they made. It's been pretty simple for me. I haven't seen him in a month.

Yeah.

So that's weird.

Very weird.

Brock Prodi looks good, though, He had that one game was against the Panthers, where he threw all those pics, and they still won. But now he's back to like, Brock Purdy being efficient, scrambling, doing his thing, hitting guys.

I think he's probably healthy now. Yeah.

So the 49ers. People aren't talking about the 49ers, but the 49ers, if the Seahawks beat the Rams on Thursday night football and the 49ers win out, they will be the one seat. So that's something that just isn't... I don't think it's been on a lot of people's radar because of how good the Rams and the Seahawks have been all year.

Yeah. The 49ers are sneaking up on people right now. They've got Christian McCaffrey playing really good, Brock Purdy, and a good backup to Brock Purdy and Mac, Just in case something happens to them. I really, really think that Kyle Shanehan has done a great job this year.

Yeah, the three losses that the 49ers have had have been all to playoff teams: Jaguars, Texans, Rams. They're a good team, and They definitely are sneaking up on people. I've been watching them because of the seeding and all that stuff. But I feel like if you went around and you asked people like, Oh, who's going to win the NFC West? 49ers still can.

Well, it's because they went win-loss, win-loss, win-loss, win-loss. And so nobody was taking that seriously. But they stacked three at the start of the season, and now they're on another four-game winning streak right now, and they're healthy.

And their schedule has broken their way a little bit.

Yeah. But the the IUK stuff is very strange. I don't think it impacts the team at all because he hasn't been there. That sounds like it's going to be one of those cases where the team is going to be like, Yeah, we're actually not going to pay you, and the player is going to be like, Fair. Yeah. Yeah. He didn't show up. I can't file a grievance because I haven't done anything. Yeah.

Okay, last one. Rowback question. Robackquestion. Roback. Com, promo code, take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback. Com, promo code, take. Do you guys remember two weeks ago, maybe three weeks ago, When the Cowboys were the scariest team in the football, that was funny. They just lost the Vikings. They got nine. Nine was awesome.

They got nine.

Jj McCarthy looked like he had full control of the offense. He did a very good job. That's Got to ease Vikings fans a little bit to remember that, hey, he's still young. He's still figuring it out because he just went into Dallas and he played outside of that first interception. He played a very, very good game.

He was just trying to make a play, though.

And he He gritted it in the end zone.

He gritted. That's got to be the most demoralizing thing when nine is hitting you from five yards out with a gritty on a naked boot leg.

That was the Peyton Manning naked boot that happened in Dallas.

It was. That play works every time, by the way. In Dallas. It should. Especially. Yeah, the Cowboys, tough break for them. Not really going to be too upset about the Dallas Cowboys not making the playoffs. No.

So they're out, right, Max?

No. Magic number is one.

One loss?

Either one loss by the Cowboys or one win by the Eagles.

The Cowboys have to win out. They got to beat the Chargers, the Commanders, and the Giants, which they could. The Cowboys could win out. I wouldn't be shocked. The Chargers, I think, are a better team than them, but there's a chance. And then the Eagles have the Commanders. Bills. Bills.

Commanders.

Commanders.

They just got to win one on the Manders.

I think you might take one against us. What if you kept them out? Split home and home. What if you kept them out? What if we did?

That'd be crazy.

You know what? That would be nuts. I I would make a T-shirt and hat for myself. I have to. Yeah. It would just be for the streak of back-to-back division champions. But the problem is- You would just be making a T-shirt and hat for the Cowboys. No, but it would be for me. You would basically just be a cowboy. No, it would be for the NFC East.

It would be like- You would be You would be so excited for the Cowboys to make a play. It would be a list of division champions. By the way, the Cowboys- It would be back-to-back, to back-to-back, to back to back to back-to-back, to lose.

It doesn't even matter. No repeat champion, NFC Beast.

Yeah.

Has anyone... So, yeah, The Vikings looked good. Cowboys, it was funny that we had that. I think it really is about the fact that the Cowboys, that's why we were all poison-pilled by, Oh, my God, the Cowboys are so dangerous.

It was because they were buried. They were left for dead before the season started after the whole Micah Parsons thing happened. And so nobody expected shit from them.

And they beat the Chiefs on Thanksgiving Day in the most watched regular season game ever. But yeah, they're not scary. Is there something wrong? Their defense still stinks.

Is there something wrong with Brandon Aubrey?

Brandon Aubrey missed a field goal. Twice.

He missed two field goals tonight.

I bet you George Pickens wishes that the season ended after Thanksgiving because he would have made a lot of money because the last two games have not been great. The Lion's game in this game.

Yeah, the tough one again tonight.

So he's probably like, Hey, George, remember, you're in a contract here, dude. Try really hard.

I think he'll probably have. He'll go off of these last three games. I don't know. Probably, yeah. Okay. Christmas Day. Christmas Day, George Pickens, two touch downs, 140 yards. Who are they playing Christmas Day? Commanders.

Oh.

Yeah.

Why don't you keep them out of the playoffs? Why don't You just beat them.

Well, no, because you're going to beat the commanders next week, so that would keep the Cowboys out of the playoffs.

Yeah.

But no- The Cowboys can't get in the playoffs.

It's a wild card. Commanders are going to beat the Eagles next week, and then the Eagles are going to lose the Bills, and then the commanders are going to beat the Eagles again, keeping the Eagles out of the playoffs and retaining the NFC East streak of no back-to-back division champions.

Which you are proud of?

For divisional pride. Listen, there's not a lot that I have to be proud of, so I got to take it where I can get it. When you look at that graphic, it's like 99% Cowboys and Eagles. Then I think we pop up twice on that graphic.

I don't think the Cowboys can get it as a wild card.

No, they cannot.

They can't. They got to win the division.

Well, the packers have the same. If they won nine games, the packers and the packers lost out, they would have the same record, but I don't know.

I think the packers have the- Well, they tied. Right, but I think they have whatever the next tiebreaker is.

Which is funny. Which is the next, yeah. So, yeah, just eliminate them next week, Max.

Listen, everybody gets nine sometimes.

Dude, he looked good.

Nine is on a roll right now.

This is a testament to playing hard throughout the... If you're a Viking fan, you were pretty down the last two months. But a night like tonight, and depending on how they can play spoiler in the last three weeks to some of their... They play the lines and the packers, some of their division foes. You could have a little momentum with nine.

So the Vikings are officially eliminated.

Yeah, they've been eliminated. They were eliminated before this game. They went in and did their thing. Congrats to them. Okay, should we do Who's Back of the Week and send everyone on their way? Who's Back of the Week is brought to you by Twisted Tea. Twisted Tea is a perfect beverage to keep the good times going this holiday season, whether you're in charge of drinks for your family's holiday party, heading to the hometown dive bars to stay warm during your time off or hitting a late-season game. Twisted Tea is there to turn your holiday season up a notch and make a good time, a great time. We love Twista Tee. Love drinking Twista Tee. I had actually Twista Tee on Saturday night. Went to a holiday party. It was a great time. Little half and half action with the Twista Tee. It's great, too, because they just go down smooth. You can chill out, have a Twista Tee. You're not burping the whole time. I love Twista Tee, so make sure you grab a few cases of Twista Tee this season. Whatever you do, keep it twisted with twisted tea. Hank, your Who's Back of the Week?

My Who's Back of the Week is John Steena.

Yeah. Yeah.

He had his- You watched. Last match ever.

Oh, you're doing quotes.

Yeah, he's back. Last match ever. You don't think he's ever- He did a whole press story. He said, This is it, 100%, no doubt about it. Last match ever.

What are you laughing about memes? Zack's been scrambling for Who's Back, and Hank just took his. Oh, no.

He's had a couple that have been talked about throughout the show. Oh, no. We got to John Zina. It's okay. We gave him another one. He's got another. Memes gave him another one.

But yeah, he's notorious for never tapping. That's his thing. That's what he built his brand on. And in his last match ever, he gave up, tapped out, lost. So he's going to be back because he has to come back to avenge that.

He has to avenge the tap out. Yeah. Do you agree with the fans that were saying, Fuck you, Triple H, for having him lose his last match like that.

Yeah. I mean, the WWW is all... It's fan service. Yeah. Like, little kids, how are you going to have a guy that's the most inspirational a figure known for not tapping out and go out by tapping out? What message does that send?

That's a good point.

It makes no sense. You're right.

Did he destroy his legacy?

The only way it can make sense is if he comes back. It was the ultimate, whatever you call it.

Why did he say he was retiring?

I think he's just done.

He's old. Just acting. He wants to just act more.

Yeah, he's old.

He's got hair now. He's going to retire.

Yeah.

What? He's got hair? Yeah, he does have hair. Yeah, Jerry's son said that his son was crying so hard. He got a fever. I don't think that's how fevers work. That's what he said. He was crying so much about John Cina retiring that he got a fever.

John Cina tapping.

Yeah. John Cina tapping made his son cry.

Yeah, his four-year-old son get a fever.

It is honestly a bad message that he sent to kids. If life gets hard, do you want to tap out? Raise your son to be a Philip Rivers, not a John Cina.

Well, yeah. If you went out coming back from against all odds and winning, and that was his final send off. That's a good message. It makes no sense, which leads me to believe he's undoubtedly coming back over the next six months.

Now, what about the people that paid $5,000 to see John Cina's last match? What's the appropriate amount of time that you have to wait if you're John cena to do the John Cina comeback?

I don't know. Probably whenever their next big pay-per-view is.

If they did it in five months, people would be mad.

Summer Slam? I don't really know the WWD schedule.

He'll come back, but he won't be back for a while, I would imagine.

I would say within a calendar year. Okay.

Within a calendar year? Yeah.

Okay. Call your shot.

A calendar year of-Sounds like you're hating on wrestling a little bit.

I'm not hating on wrestling. He did the whole press for me. I'm like, This is 100% it. It's my last match. If it was, he would not have lost.

You're not wrong. But also, you can't have him... Did he have a belt going into it? You can't have him retire with a belt.

He must not have.

He must not Wait, now I'm confused again about calendar year. You said within the calendar year of right now?

Calendar year. So what would that mean?

In the next two weeks?

In the next two weeks. Next calendar year, he'll be back.

Next calendar year. That makes sense. 2026.

That makes perfect sense. Okay, good. Who's back? Thanks. Yeah. You good? I'm great. Great. We good? Yeah. We're good. We're good?

Never better.

I just think it had been a while since you lost the game, so we hadn't had It was a minor situation yet for a while.

There was no situation. We're good.

It was a minor situation. Minor situation.

I have a question.

Yeah.

Good question, Max.

When we were doing that whole, It's so fun to play the Raiders thing, did you think that was going to come to you at any point? Yeah.

You just shunned it.

I was not going to bring that up myself.

I kept bringing it up specifically for that reason.

What would I have butted in and said?

No, no, no. But credit to us for saying it.

Credit to us for not saying it.

We didn't say I was just talking to Max about how awesome it was to play the Raiders today.

Yeah, it was good.

And Big Cat, when you played the Raiders, that was awesome, too. Yeah, we won. And Marcus Murillo went off against the Raiders.

I also didn't bring up that the Panthers also lost today. Which means what? Which was another one of the winning teams that...

So how many winning teams have they beaten?

They've beaten one. They're currently one and two against winning teams.

But that team that they beat with a winning record avenged their loss.

But notNot the torch.

But not the torch. But not the torch.

But you play, you play.

Listen to last Friday's part of my take if you think he's going to talk about the fucking torch again. There's a little button on your phone that is the podcast.

I think it's a little premature to say the torch. You said the torch was passed in, what, September or early October? That feels premature.

It was right. That was correct.

Well, no, you have to win the division. True. Yeah.

What if you guys play in the playoffs?

Then the torch goes back. That would be a big game. That would be a torch game. That would 100% be a torch game. That would have to be a torch game.

We're worried about the Ravens right now.

You'd have to make that a torch game.

Ravens.

You have to at least think about it.

Ravens.

Okay.

That would almost be worse if you got the torch and then gave it back within almost a calendar year.

Isn't it crazy, though, Hank? Losing a game, you just then see everything differently where you're like, Oh, shit. Every team looks scary now.

Yeah. No, it's not a fun spot to be in. It's going to be a long couple of months. Buckle up. But this is what?

Strap in. This is the time of year that you historically actually start playing football. Football doesn't matter until late December.

Yeah, wait me up when the playoff starts. Strap in. I would rather have an extra week of sleep, but that's fine.

Is there a chance there could be a team that makes the AFC playouts with a losing record?

Maybe the Ravens still.

That would be hilarious.

I think the Ravens could go 8-9.

I guess they wouldn't play each other unless the Patriots got the wild card.

I think they could go 8-9.

Yeah. Okay. P. F. T. Or who's back?

My who's back is the Heisman Trophy.

Yes, that was going to be mine.

Mendoza wins the Heisman Trophy. Diego Pavia did not win the Heisman Trophy. He may have acted like he won the Heisman Trophy afterwards.

Yeah. I was going to do who's back? Johnny Manzell. Yeah.

But Johnny Manzell won it.

This is a situation where right after the award was announced and everything that happened that night reinforced the decision to give it to Mendoza. Yeah.

I like Fernando Mendoza.

I also like Pavia.

I like Pavia. I thought that was a little lame to do that when you lost the high. Johnny Manzell worked because he won the Heisman, and he beat Bama and that stuff. Fernando Mendoza seems like the sweetest dude ever. We even had Albert Brewer doing a weird passive-aggressive tweet. Did you see that?

Yeah.

Why even tweet that? Basically being like, Teams will talk about whether Fernando Mendoza is too big of a dork to be a good NFL quarterback. If you saw the clip, but also- Andrew Locke. The clip after Fernando Mendoza won the Heisman, and he went to the back room, and his entire team was there, and they were so fucking hype for him. I'm pretty sure he's a good teammate, and the boys love him.

Yeah, he's a great teammate. One of my favorite things that I saw from him was they asked him, What do you want to do with the trophy after you win it? What did Pavia say? Pavia He's going to take it to the club or something like that?

No, he was going to let Theo Vaughn have it in the back of his podcast.

Yeah, I'm going to give it to Theo Vaughn. Then Mendoza was like, I would like the Heisman Trophy to stay at the University of Indiana, Bloomington, because everyone there has been through thick and thin with this team, the ups and the downs, a lot of downs, and it belongs to the community. Then they're like, Well, actually, you get two of them. So the school gets one, and then you get one yourself, too. He's like, Oh, okay. Then I guess I'll have my own.

Jeremiah Love said he wanted to give it to God.

I want to give it to God. I'm going to put it in the back of Theo Von's podcast.

Yeah, I was happy for Fernando Mendoza. It wasn't like... Not every year can be someone put up Joe Burrow's numbers against Joe Burrow, that was maybe the greatest college football season ever. It's 60 touch downs. Fernando Mendoza was awesome, and he made big plays and big moments. And Indiana football is the number one football team in the country going into the playoffs. It's crazy. This whole thing is just... If you went in a coma three years ago and woke up, you just be like, What the fuck? Indiana won the Heisman, and they're the number one team. It makes no sense, but it's awesome for them.

Yeah. Notre Dame got left out of the playoffs. For Indiana. For Indiana? Yeah. That's crazy. But yeah, you would think that, if anything, the system would go out of its way to rig it for Notre Dame, which is completely backwards in college football right now. But I like Pavia because he's a wild card. He's crazy. He says a lot of stuff that he probably will end up regretting. After it was over and he was just like, Fuck all the voters. I like that. It's fun. It is. It's interesting having a guy like that around. But I think Mendoza seems like a great guy. I like him.

What are you going to say, Max?

You're not even mentioning, the other finalist was Vandebill. If you woke up in a car, it was like Indiana, Ohio State, and Vandebill. It would be like, What do you mean?

Notre Dame, Ohio State, Indiana, and Vanderbilt. And the one, two was Indiana, Vanderbilt. It wasn't that close either. And it was, yeah, Mendoza. What a fucking... I mean, what a season. Indiana. I'm excited for the playoffs. And I do think I'm buying stock in Fernando Mendoza as a pro. I said that to you. Remember memes two months ago? I was like, I think he's got it. The way he's like, nerds out about football, that's a guy who just loves football. Football and talking about football and reading defenses.

We're going to lose Philip Rivers, but we're going to gain a Mendoza.

Yeah, I'm excited. Okay, who's back in the week? Nba Cup. It actually was awesome. Oh, no. Was that yours, Zack? No, you're good. Spurs beat the-OKC, yeah. Okc. Okc, second loss of the season. Yeah, huge loss there. They've just been credit to us. I know we got a long way to go in the NBA season, but At least through the first two months, our take that last year's OKC team might be the worst team they have, they're dominant, but Wemby changes everything. The NBA Cup actually has been pretty cool. Credit to Silver. That was an awesome game. Spurs beat the Grizzlies, and Wemby is a problem.

Wemby is a huge problem.

Massive problem.

I hope this continues for the rest of the season. He had a minor injury scare, but I got him to win the MVP. Took it week. I think it was the first week of the NBA season, and there's no accounting for him. You can't design a system to keep the ball away from Wemby. You can't design a system to to effectively attack the paint when Wemby is standing there. He's so fun to watch.

Hey, you guys remember when I was like, Oh, the Bulls are good, fun? They're so bad. And they lost The Pelicans again today. The Pelicans have five wins on the season, and two of them are to the Bulls. They're so bad. You know who's really good is- The Pelicans shot 24% from three and beat the Bulls.

The Pistons are awesome.

Pistons are very good. Bully Ball. Hank, Celtics report. Go.

Celtics are good. They're on a good streak.

Tatum going to come back?

I don't think so. I don't know. He's been practicing. I think they're nine and two in their last 11 games, a couple of games back from the Knicks. That's pretty good. Sixers are in third. Playing well, playing good ball. They beat the Pistons, beat the Cavs. Got a big one against the Pistons tonight.

We'll do some maybe basketball previews after the New Year. Get everyone geared up for the League.

You guys beat the Sixers, Hank?

We beat the Sixers in the beginning of the year. I'm sorry, we beat the Pistons and the Cavs recently.

How's the Sixers doing?

They're fine. Tyrese Max, he hasn't played the last two games because he was sick. But Paul George is back. Yeah, Embiid had 40 on Friday. Paul George is back. And then Paul George had 35 tonight. They went one on one in those two games. But without Maxi, you'll be all right with that.

Did you guys see that shot Steph Curry made warming up on Friday? That was the craziest shot. He's just dude Perfect. Did you see it? Can you pull it up?

Is it real?

Yeah, it's very real. There was a whole stance. There was the whole- Those videos are impossible.

There's been so many faked.

I don't know how this one would be faked. I guess, yeah, you're right. All right, you're right, Hank. You're right. No, search Steph Curry's shot. You're right. This could very well be AI. I could be an idiot. Look at this. The official Warriors account posted, I think. That's stupid. That's crazy.

I think that's an old video.

Wait, is that-Is that old? I bet it's- That might be an old video, and it might be a shot that hit the outside of the net that didn't go in because I remember that.

No, that was- That happened a couple of years ago.

That was Friday night. That was Friday night.

He did it again.

Yeah, it's crazy.

I don't know.

I mean, they posted on Friday night, so if the Warriors are reposting it, that's lame. I'm going to say it right now. Bad warriors.

Bad. It does suck that we're like, Wait, which video is this of Steph Curry hitting a 140-foot shot?

And it sucks being like, We don't know if this is real or not because everything is AI now and nothing. I saw a woman get eaten by an alligator this morning.

Like in real life or AI? No, AI.

Very AI. But I don't know why we're making these videos?

Listen, I think AI is... I think it's in hot water. Really? I think AI is on the hot seat. Okay. I feel like this is... We're in a good spot as humanity right now where AI has not been making enough money to justify all the investment.

Isn't it like every time they do, and every time you make an AI video of a fat woman falling through a bridge, an entire town in Tennessee loses its water?

That does happen, yes. But it's mostly that at this point, AI is... There's five companies that make money right now, and they're all in AI, and they're trying to sell their AI to businesses. And then every time a business uses AI, their customers are like, Hey, what the fuck? The AI sucks. And the business are like, We want to stop paying for this AI. And then all the five companies that are making money are like, Oh, shit, what are we going to do to make money now? We owe a lot of money. A lot of people invest in us. I feel like AI is in hot water. All right, good. Hot We might beat the robots. All right.

Did you guys see that robot going up the stairs in Pittsburgh? Fuck these robots. That robot, I would... That robot is going to kill us someday.

Wait, I'm seeing another angle of this Steph Curry thing. It may be real.

The warriors posting an AI video would be fucked up.

That should be against the law.

That's real. That's an insane shot.

I think it's real.

Yeah. He's crazy, man. He's really good at basketball.

Remember when we got to root for him when he was on the Olympic team? Yeah, that was so much fun. That was cool.

Zack, your Who's Back of the Week? My Who's Back of the Week this week is going to be breached of the US military because we had a couple come together this weekend. Oh, nice. Army-navy Game went down. Great Army-Navy Game.

Super close game. I got a problem.

What's our issue, PFT?

Cbs. Okay. Every year, I watch the Army-Navy game. Every year. It's the best flyover of the year. They didn't have a flyover on TV this year. They They went to commercial. That's bullshit. It's bullshit. Everybody loves the Army-Navy flyover. You get the helicopters from the Army, you get the F-18s from the Navy, and they just didn't put them on TV. That's bullshit. What's going on with that? We used to be a proper country.

Hey, what's the deal with that?

What is up with that? Who at CBS made that decision? Who's in charge of CBS now?

Yeah.

I got a bone to pick with you.

I think it was Gary Danielson's last Army-Navy game. I think he's retiring at the end of the year. He's a good announcement. Yeah. Kind of like a classic announcement voice. Yeah. He got very emotional. It was nice.

I like when they do the exchange of the students that spent the semester at the other place. They exchange to the prisoners at midfield. Yeah. That's a nice moment. Good coin flip.

Also, shout out Washington winning the First bowl game. They slipped that one in.

Wait, what?

Oh, yeah. Washington kicked the shit out of Boise.

Oh, let's go.

On Saturday night.

Let's go, Huskies. Did not know that.

They slipped that one in.

That's a fucked... Okay, BFT. I got another problem with that. This Saturday is for Army-Navy only.

Yes, PFT. I bet the game, and I didn't watch a snap.

I had Boise.

Oh, I had watched it.

Oh, also who's back, the Loman Trophy. Yeah. Because the Heisman Trophy. They get all the ballots in before the Army-Navy game. With the Lowman Trophy, that is a very important game to the final Loman voting tallies. When are we going to do it? We're sending the ballots out this week. When should we do it?

I don't know. Good question. Are we doing it on the show? Or are we doing our own show?

We could do it on part of my take. It's part of part of my take. Or we could do it on a livestream, whether it's on mega day or if it's- Or it could be New Year's Day. It could be on New Year's Day. Yeah. A New Year's Day trophy. Yeah, we do New Year's Day. All right. So if you're a lowman trophy voter, the ballots will be going out this week. And I got to be honest, I think there's probably four fullbacks in the country. Okay. So if you play fullback in college, you were on the watch list for the lowman trophy. Tweet us and let us know why you should win the lowman. No, there's two guys. I think it's going to be a two-man race. I don't want to impact the voting, but there's two guys I got my eye on. It's going to be one of those two that win. But the ballots will go out this week. But yeah, if you've taken like 40 snaps at the position of fullback, congratulations, you're a finalist for the lowman trophy. Put that on your resume.

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Number three.

I got it.

Twenty-two.

Colton. Colton's in the booth. Colton. Colton's in the booth. Colton, what if-Go, Colton. Wait, memes. Memes. What's up? Is Colton's first? No, you guessed. Colton, did you guess over chill week? Yeah, he was here. When was it?

Camp week. Oh, camp week. Camp week.

You've guessed a couple of times. What happens if Colton gets it before you, Memes?

I likeCoulton. For now?

Yeah. No, I like Colton. For now? Yeah. No, I like Colton.

I mean, right now at this moment. But if he got it, you would… I'd be ecstatic for him. Destroy him.

Colton, you have to be a little nervous that if you get this, Meems is going to hate your guts. Don't let him tear us apart here, Colton.

I'm always nervous about memes hate me.

That's good. Actually, really good life advice right there.

Colton, what's your number? Ten. Ten. I'm ready. I'm ready for it.

I'm going to go with 2.

I'll go with 100. For DJ Moore. 8. I'll go with 99, Pug. I'm going to go nine for nine.

That's a good one.

9? 9. You didn't think about that. I feel good.

It's probably good. What was your guess? 22. The two. Two, six? Twenty. Should we do one more, though? Sure. Let's do one more. How close are we?

Twenty. I just say 20 all the time.

We got to be close, right?

Oh, yeah. Let me pull that up. That's on me.

I think it's less than 40.

We are 39 guesses away. Probably 38 now. Wow. I already guessed it correct. No, you didn't. No, you didn't get it. You never got a meme. Yes, I did. Never got a meme. Yes, I did. Never got a meme. Yes, I did.

64. 64. Anybody? Anybody? 64?

64. It says right Memes has never won on the website.

No, he hasn't.

Career stats, 0. 0%. That's like you next Saturday. Oh. Boom. Has never won.

Be careful. This is Memes roast time. You're getting sucked and fucked next Saturday.

I'll take the sucking.

But you're doing both.

I'm sucking. No, you told me I was getting sucked and fucked. No, you're hitting the pterodactyl.

That's like three dicks in one hand. That's a great Saturday for me.

A pterodactyl. That's a great Saturday for me.

Love you guys.

What if we Did you just beat Oregon, though? You're not. What if we did? No. Do you understand how cool it would be? No. It'd be the fucking best.