Transcript of Jerry O’Connell, Liam Coen’s Introduction To The World, Hot Seat/Cool Throne And Guys On Getting Old

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Today is Wednesday, January 29th. And, boys, the dust is settled from the championship Sunday. We got a Super Bowl to look forward to. How's everyone feeling? Sean McDermott still has his job.

I don't think he should be fired now that the dust has been settled. No.

I don't think he should be fired.

But that has been the discourse.

He's a he's a very, very good coach, but you have to also look at what he's done in the playoffs and how much those those losses just stay with the man. Yeah. Andy Reid. You know what happened to him? He was fired by the Philadelphia Eagles.

He's fired. He fired him, then he went to Kansas City. And now he's playing against the Eagles in the Super Bowl.

Yeah. How are you feeling, PFT? I know, obviously, Sunday sucked for you. Yeah. I think Monday probably sucked as well.

I when I woke up on Monday, I felt better just from the second I opened my eyes. And I I posted a meme about it, and I think it captures the moment perfectly. It's 2 the 2 guys on the bus meme. Yep. 1 is really pissed off doom and gloom.

The other guy's super happy. The guy that's pissed off is losing a close game. The guy that's super happy is getting your ass kicked.

Yeah.

So getting your ass kicked is better in those situations, I think, than being, like, oh, you know, we're 1 play away.

Oh, yeah. I I said it to you right after the game. I was, like, the own you know, I was I felt bad for you. Like, it sucked to watch that. And I was like, the only spin zone is if it were a a Bills situation or, you know, like, a weird call or penalty or, like, a dropped ball, a Mark Andrews, that's those are the ones that will stick in your head for weeks weeks weeks.

This 1, it's like, yeah. You got your ass kicked.

Yeah. I'm I'm still not happy about the result of the game, but and I'm also not doing the thing where I I'm just constantly pointing at, we'll be back. Look look at this team. That's the worst team Jaden's ever gonna have. You never know.

Yeah. Weird things happen in the NFL all the time. So I I've also realized and this is my fault for not realizing before the game. That was the post lines week.

Yeah.

And every team gets their ass

kicked True.

Post lions. So the eagles didn't really even beat us. The lions we just had delayed onset getting beaten by the lions.

So the lions technically lost in the divisional round and the conference championship.

Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, it happened with the Vikings too. The Vikings beat the lions last game of the season, lose to the Rams.

No. The lions beat the Vikings.

Lions beat the Vikings. Yeah. But they play Yeah. And then they end up losing afterwards. Yeah.

So congratulations to the lions for beating us.

Yeah. Yeah. They they actually won that game.

Yeah. But, you know, it it's not a good feeling. Next week would be so much more fun if my team was in it. Yeah. But I'd say so.

I'm Well

I'm doing okay. Max?

Yeah. I'm on the Kansas City, but I'm back on on being mad at the media because now everyone's just saying, oh, the Eagles now get credit for beating a rookie quarterback.

Oh, you said that? Now it's back.

Yeah. It sounds like there's another addition to the list.

It's Yeah. No. Oh, yeah. Big time list. Oh, Colin Cowart said that that the Eagles might not get in the red zone because the Chiefs' defense is so good.

That's that's megalith.

By the way, I've I've done some I we'll we'll do a full preview next week. But I've our our good friend, Roan, I I told him because we were talking about, he was just saying, like, you know, the Chiefs' defense is really the Chiefs' defense is a little overrated. I'm gonna say it right now. I'm a dig into some numbers for you, but I'm gonna say it.

That's what I'm talking about.

Their their rush defense has not been, like, incredible in the in the back half. Now the problem is for the Chiefs, for for you and the Chiefs is their offense has gotten a lot better. Like, I don't think their I think their defense is is a little worse than people. I think people think their defense is elite. I think their defense is above average, and I think people think that their offense is average, and I think that's also above average.

So it's still passed from Holmes. Does that make sense? It's That's my early analysis of the game that I haven't fully dug into, but I think their defense is a little bit worse, but their offense is a little bit better.

Max, I think I might be putting you on my list for putting Colin Cowherd on your list because that's that's what he wanted to have happen. He said that so guys like you would be like, Colin Cowherd. Let's talk about him.

Yeah. You fell for it.

Yeah. You fell for it.

I don't care. Megalist.

I did get tagged in a stat that you got upset about before I even said it. You were like, oh, well, you're fucking stat.

Your last big stat was that no quarterback is That's not

a stat. That was

a stat. Curse.

It was a potential curse. It was a 25 year curse. That's not a stat, dude. That's a curse. You don't believe so.

Max, for the for the record, you do not believe in 25 plus year curses.

I don't know where this I'm not answering that question because it looks like you're trying to

Smart man. Yep.

Alright. Learning. Ryan Hannibal did tweet, and I got tagged in this, Max. It's not my fault that that the AWL's tagged me in this. They said something to note ahead of the Super Bowl.

Eagles defensive coordinator Vic Fangio has faced Patrick Mahomes 8 times, 6 with Denver, twice with Miami. His teams are 0 and 8, and Mahomes has thrown 2 10 TDs and 2 interceptions in those games.

Now those Denver and Mahomes.

Well, also those Denver and Miami teams didn't have the same personnel that the Eagles do.

Denver was pretty good.

I mean, they weren't. The Eagles defense is very good. But, yeah, are you is that stat is that a stat worth jumping down my throat?

I'm not worried about about trends. That's a trend.

I I got a trend, Big Cat. No team that's won exactly 15 games in the regular season has won the Super Bowl since 1985. Woah. But Max doesn't care about trends.

But it's extra games.

I also have

a trend. He doesn't care about I

also have a trend in every single time that the Eagles have played the Chiefs in the Super Bowl on this podcast, the Eagles have lost.

Not a trend.

Incorrect. Incorrect.

We beat

them in the regular season last year.

Next I said in the Super Bowl.

In the Super Bowl.

Correct. I missed that.

I love it. I love that you're on edge.

Yep. That was a little boy ass play game.

The Super Bowl.

Oh, yes. Sirianni doing the tunnel thing, and then it all fell apart.

No. It no. It was, Travis Kelce, little boy ass play. Oh.

Yeah. No. But yeah. But wasn't that the game when Sirianni was in the tunnel after being

like, how

do you like us now? And then they lost every game after.

Yep. Have we Nick Siriano, good coach. Have we got any any media request for Max during the week of the Super Bowl?

0 0 media request.

Oh, come on. Come on, people. Max will I'll also say that Max will talk about Villanova basketball for anyone on Radio Row as well.

Yeah. You get 2 guests for the price of 1. Yeah. And that was not a weight joke. That was just 2 teams.

Yeah. Big Cat, I have a question for you because there's a take that is, it's riling people up online.

Okay.

Do you think that Josh Allen should have thrown to, the wide open guy that he had in the flat when he had 2 defenders from the Kansas City Chiefs in his face?

Are you talking about Khalil Shaqir?

Yeah. Yeah. He was running the little, merry-go-round play in the backfield.

Yeah. I don't no. I didn't play in the NFL. It felt like Josh Allen had a guy in his face almost instantly and probably made it hard to do, but, I actually think Ben Solic is is good at his job, and I like his his film analysis. He holy shit.

Was that an overreaction for people who missed it? He he basically broke down the play and was like, Josh Allen had Khalil Shakir open on the backside. But if you watch the play, it's like it's he had a chief in his face.

Not if you simply flip your hips.

Yeah. You gotta flip your

hips to make the throw. But He still made he did make the throw.

Yeah. He did make a good he made an incredible throw. He

made the play app. Yeah.

That's the real story is. Dalton Kincaid, I feel like he's getting left off a little bit too easy, just because it's easier to be like Josh Allen can't beat Patrick Mahomes. Oh, he should have flipped

his hips to the left. I personally would have thrown it even deeper for a touchdown. Yeah. The touchdown was open on that play.

But but so Ben Sullik did a film breakdown, and then it was almost like, it was essentially the Anchorman scene when everyone shows up to the fight, and it was just everyone who's ever played in the NFL, lineman, quarterbacks. And then, Ryan Leaf showed up, and

I love that.

Was like, dude. Maybe this isn't cool anymore. He wrote, quote, treating Ben Sulloch. He said, this right here is why in full transparency, you have to post your address with these. Someone needs to put a boot in his ass.

You work at ESPN. Call Alex. Call Dan. Call Timmy h. Just call someone before you do this and lose whatever credibility you had.

I'm serious, though. Someone go rough this kid up. See if he throws the orbit. I love it. And it was like it was it was basically because it was everyone.

It was, like, you know, like and all these people I I respect, and I I think Ben probably did minimize how easy of a or how difficult of a throw that was. But it's it's also like you're having a discussion about a game. Like, that's that's the whole point of Twitter. You talk about the game. You break down the game.

But it was like Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Fitzy was nice to him.

Yeah. Fitzy was nice to him.

He's like, I I love your passion, which is actually the meanest thing you can say, but he I mean,

it was a horrible take.

He said it like it was like the proper Harvard man that he was. That's Fitzy's version of saying somebody needs to show up at your house and kick your ass. But,

the the correct take was that the Bills didn't slide their protection correctly because SPAGS was doing 1 blitz all game, and then he and then he flipped it on him.

Yeah. I think there were 2 things working against Ben Solo. And, yeah, he is good at what he does. But number 1, he used the dots. His initial take used the the overhead.

Use the dots. They use the overhead dots. And the overhead I don't know who likes watching the dots. It's all the, like, film nerd people. You don't you don't like football if you like watching the dots.

Yeah. Or maybe maybe you can, but I can't appreciate looking at the dots and understanding how awesome football is. Nobody's hitting each other. There's nothing cool that happens. You get a little animated football that glides across the field.

What's your favorite album of all time, Big Cat?

Probably, probably 3rd eye blinds self titled.

Okay. 3rd eye blinds. If you hadn't heard of

the song pressure. I was under pressure. I was gonna maybe go sublime sublime. I was also maybe gonna go Good choices. The band, self titled.

Fuck. Okay. Let's say That was hard.

Let's say let's say, Prince Purple Rain. Okay. You've never heard it. Right? Yeah.

Sublime, sublime. Okay. Sublime, sublime. You've never heard the battle ballad of Johnny Butt. You've never heard Wrong Way.

You've never heard Caress Me Down. I come up to you, and I'm like, big cat, I think you're gonna love this album, and then I hand you the sheet music to the album for you to read. Yeah. That's what looking at the dots is Yeah.

How sick was this? For football.

You can't appreciate how sick it actually is. So use the dots. That's strike 1. And then strike 2, his profile pic that he had was a bat signal for football jocks. Yeah.

To point at him and say, this is everything that's wrong with the film dorks that are sitting at home. They're in their big comfy chairs, and they've never had a guy in their face before.

Yeah.

So I think every film nerd should have to, on video, let a guy just get right in their face. Yeah. Like, have a guy come in their face.

Yep. Like, not, you know, like, physically. Yeah.

Physically. Like, impose their will on them in his face and then show that you can break down film while a guy is in your face.

Also, just maybe grow a mustache.

That helps

too. That always helps. The funny thing is Kurt Warner ever heard of him, Super Bowl MVP, MVP of the league. He actually kind of agreed with Ben not that the that Shaquir was there, but more that it was the the discussion should not be like, oh, where should he have thrown it? It should have been how did the Bills not get the right protection, have a a plan for that type of blitz.

And, again, Hank's right. Josh Allen made the throw. Dalton Kinkade. I mean, it wasn't like a perfect throw. He had to come back for it, but that was in his hands.

What do you always say, Hank?

If you can touch it, you can catch it.

Yep. Touch it, you can catch it. I do feel bad for Bill's fans because that's it's how we started the show. You were able to bounce back relatively speaking Yeah. Because of the ass kicking.

Bills fans are going to spend a neck the next month going over this and going over that play and going over the first down and every Yeah. I I was lucky enough to get to go home on Sunday and not have to force myself to spend

the next 48 hours drawing photoshopped lines onto the screen to show where the ball is, where the first down line is, and then and then replying to every popular tweet using my Photoshop lines and demonstrating that the NFL was wrong.

Yeah.

But you

have to do that if you're Bulls fan.

And, again, it comes down to the Chiefs are so well coached, and they make big put because I was also watching so is that Spaggs blitz, which was an incredible blitz perfectly timed, and this is what the Chiefs do. They should make big plays. The other 1, which I didn't notice obviously in real time, but, the Mahomes, designed run for the touchdown to go up 7, it was very cool because they basically ran They they it looked exactly like a run going left, and all the Bills crashed left. I think they pulled the guard, and then Mahomes just went right. And it's like the I think I think it was Russo said they had not run that play all year.

That she should not run that play all year. Think Mahomes had 1 designed run all year, and he's like, we watched all the film that never showed up. That's coaching. That's Andy Reid being like, we're in a game against a team that we know it's gonna come down to 1 possession. We gotta we gotta throw a few things at them that they've never seen before.

Mhmm.

And that's what they did. And that's why the Chiefs are in the Super Bowl, and, Mahomes is going for a 3 peat.

Spin zone for Bills fans. The last time I remember this much breakdown of 1 fourth down slash first down slash referees getting involved, and the spot might be incorrect. It was the Michigan Ohio State game right before Michigan went on its win streak against

Ohio State. Yeah. Right? There's a little bit of bottoming out, but then yeah.

But then yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. But then But

then they were back.

Yeah.

Yeah. Then they were back

big time. We also might get a

microchip now. Yeah. So the microchip I love the chain gang. I love the sticks. I love the old guys that they wheel out there on Sundays that get run into on the sidelines sometimes.

That's always fun too. But I like the idea. I love it if there's a close play. They stop the clock real quick. The chain guy gang comes out onto the field.

There's that moment of anticipation. Then then you either get the 1st down or you don't get the 1st down. It's like another play that's built in that you get to cheer for or be pissed off about. I like the chain gang, but I can see why the microchip crowd can be, like, we can measure this better.

But, again, it comes down to and and whatever. Throw that play throw throw the throw the refs out of that. It came down to I saw the stat that the the Chiefs, I think, that was the most stuffed runs on a QB keeper on a QB sneak, like, in a lot of years, 3 times they stuffed it. Why were you running that 3 times? Especially in a play that by design, you don't know where the ball is.

Mhmm. You the ref can't tell where the ball is. It's a 5050 call for the ref, and you're leaving that up to it in a on a play that you aren't able to get those yards. That's where I was I said it on Sunday night. Like, go ahead and blame the rest if you want to.

That was play calling and coaching and coming up with a strategy to beat the Chiefs that just didn't feel smart.

I think if you can't see the ball, then you get the microchip involved.

Yeah. I just like talking about microchips. It it And I also like whenever someone's like, we've we're able to do this, but not this. It also We can get on the moon, but we can't do a microchip. Yeah.

That's all

it is.

Those are my favorite arguments.

So the microchip would exist in the in the middle of the ball. Right? So how would you know

I thought and this is maybe my brain is just so scientifically advanced that we haven't caught up to it. I thought they would wrap it in a microchip.

The ball would be made out of microchip Kind of. And shiny on the outside.

It would be 1 of those, like, like, the tinfoil, and then they heat it up and it and it envelopes it?

If if you tell Andy Reid that there's a microchip inside the pig skin, he's gonna try to eat it. Yeah. So be on the lookout for that. But there there should be a way if if you can't see the ball, maybe go to the microchip. But I I love the chain gang.

I do too.

It's 1 of the things about football that's just it's tradition, and you shouldn't try to don't make the NFL into the NBA. Yeah. Don't try to evolve the game into something that it's not that we all hate.

And and the Chiefs

made a couple more plays than the Bills made.

Yeah. That's that's what it came down to.

Yeah. Going back to the beginning of the show, if, this exact scenario had happened to Washington and they were in Buffalo situation Mhmm. Would you be saying the same thing about the mic? No way. I

would That's not how fancy.

Meme I would be, pulling the memes at the NFL front office right now.

Yeah.

I would be in New York and And ready for the If

that happened to the base, I'd be writing letters to congress.

I would never turn 40 Yeah. If that happened.

Yeah. And I would I would be letting writing letters to congress and, like, self funding microchip data. Yeah. I'd go broke trying to get microchip, but I would but my only rule for getting the microchips in the balls would be we have to replay that game.

Yeah. I would move to Taiwan

and start my my own semiconductor company. I mean, I if if that happened if if that if I were a Bills fan, I would probably I'd probably just walk around with a picture of the of the of the spot and the ball that was beneficial to me. And I would just be it'd be, like, showing, like, your a picture of your kids or your dog. Just be like, you wanna see this? Mhmm.

Did you see what happened? You remember that Years later, I'd be like, did you guys see this?

Remember that movie set to pride? Mhmm. I would kidnap Rodger Goodell, and I would tattoo that that image onto his body. So he had to look at it every single day.

I'd I'd clockwork orange him. Yeah. I'd open up his eyeballs, and I'd make him watch the first down over and over and over. Mhmm. Severance.

Make him apologize into a screen Yeah. A 1000 times. To your future self, Roger. Yeah. But yeah.

Stop complaining, Bills fans.

Well, no.

You can't. No. I'm just kidding. I'm joking. Keep complaining.

No. No. Definitely keep complaining. Keep posting the screenshots. Don't give

that up.

I think it's more I think Bills fans keep complaining. I think non like, if you don't have a dog in the fight, Bills or Chiefs, fucking move on and stop saying the NFL's rigged. Yeah. Again, you you pointed out, if the NFL's rigged, just bet everything on the Chiefs. Yep.

That's rigged. If it's rigged, if you're so convinced it's rigged, you should be betting the Chiefs on every every single year.

And I love the people that that discover for the first time that the NFL has argued in court that they're an entertainment company Yeah. Not a sports company. I I And then that proved that it that it's it's a 100% rigged, which if you're looking for if you're trying to make a conspiracy out of it, the NFL gives you a lot of stuff to work with. They give you a ton to work with. But I don't think that distinction has anything to do with whether or not 1 ref saw Josh Allen's shoulder and and was like, no.

That looks like it's 2 inches short.

Oh, we need Taylor Swift in the Super Bowl again. There was there was a lot of takes flying, but I I did appreciate, 1 person saying, I'm gonna give you too bad, big cat. I I kinda give you a pass because it's your job, but at the same time, it's crystal clear at this point that the sport is corrupt. It would be a big statement for all of Barstool Sports to take a stand here and boycott. Boycott the Super Bowl.

Boycott. I I'll say this loud and clear. I'm I'm always gonna watch the Super Bowl. Yeah. It's the last football game of the year.

And anyone who says they're not gonna watch Super Bowl, you're a fucking liar. That's they you're just a liar. You're gonna watch the Super Bowl. You might not talk about the Super Bowl. You might complain about the Super Bowl.

You're gonna fucking sit down on Super Bowl Sunday. They literally main named a Sunday after it, and you're gonna open your eyes, and you're gonna watch that fucking game.

You know what? I think we should make a stand. Who was it

that said that? Tram 2022. Tram 2022 is right. As a company But noted noted Paul Watcher.

As a company, Tram, I think that we should all boycott the Pro Bowl games.

Okay. We've done this, I think, 4 or 5 years in a

row. Yeah. I'm gonna I'm I'm ready to do it. I'm doing it this year for Tram. Yeah.

I'm not gonna watch.

Okay.

May I'll stand with you. Are they gonna do the 1 where they throw for distance to see how far the quarterbacks can throw? I won't watch. I might watch that, but the rest of it, I'm out. I'll

I won't watch at least some part of the Pro Bowl games. Okay. Yeah. That feels right. That feels right.

We'll show them.

Yeah. Okay. We should talk about some coach introductions. So Liam Cone. Woah.

That guy's weird. I kinda like him. I mean, he's he I like him in the fact that, like, I can't look away when he did the Duval and he did the double eyebrow raise.

Yeah. I talked to Jerry O'Connell about that. We we were hanging out in the gambling cave. He's like, so that, that Jaguars coach, he's, that was AI. Right?

Like, seriously. Like AI. He was like, now that we're off the air, can you tell like, that was AI. Yeah. No.

It's no. That's that's him. That's Liam Cohn. And it's it's rare that you see 1 thing from an introductory press conference, and you just know what it's going to be like after every single jaguar's loss

Yeah.

Where that is gonna be the only thing that you see on social media. That's aura. That's gonna be the 1 thing that sticks in my brain about Liam Cohen until I see him do something even weirder.

Yeah.

Pew. Pew. Pew. Pew. Pew.

Pew.

Pew. Yeah.

Shots explosive to Adam Gates' eyes. Like, there's a lot of things that that if you do the first your first press conference if you say it or your first introduction to the world, Dave Canals' book. Yeah. There's just a lot of things like he and did you guys see the clip? Can you pull it up, Max, of him talking about honesty is the best policy?

That was very funny. Yeah. Because I I I said on Sunday, I I have I really don't have a problem with Liam Cohen and how he did it. I mean, he could've handled it better, but I think football is, like, everyone's gotta look out for themselves. But it's just very, like, insanely unselfaware to have an entire 30 seconds talking about how honesty is the best policy after you, lied to the entire Bucks organization.

Here it is.

And that's that's really what is gonna come down to is honesty. I I I wanna surround ourselves with people that are gonna be able to tell you hard truths, be able to show you your blind spots because that's really, like I mentioned, where growth occurs. And when you can truly be yourself and be honest with looking in the mirror, knowing that that process to get you there was clean and it was right, and the results will speak for themselves.

I kinda love the idea, though, of the Jaguars having just a swindler as a head coach.

Yeah.

Just a guy that's that's actually a snake, a guy that's dirty, like the perfect Florida man. I want I want him to, like, go to a pawnshop with Brian Thomas junior. Try to get $90 for him. Yeah. I want him to get paid in scratch off tickets.

I wanna do a video with the, the Jags the viral Jags woman. Yeah. Like, I they they need to do that. The, he also he also dropped an acronym. That's always a no no in the NFL.

I feel like that's just, maybe a college college acronyms kinda work, but, his acronym is FAST, and it stands for fundamentally sound attacking situational masters tough.

Situational masters is a good 1.

0, man. I mean, it it I I my acronym point I mean, Matt Eberflus had a acronym, and it was the hits principle and the t in hits standard for the ball.

Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. That was all

on the wall. Situational masters.

That's I I wanna know what that means.

Why could it be situational football?

Could it be situational awareness?

Masters.

Sit because they wanna be masters of situations.

Fundamentally sound. Yeah. Like, just be fundamental attacking situational football tough. Yeah. Sounds better than situational masters and fundamentally sound.

Tough ball, then it would

be s a f t b. Yeah. Can you pull up the

status for

the boys? Explain the the acronym. The Jaguars posted it. And listen. I will I will say this in defense of the Jaguars.

When Dan Campbell did his introductory press conference, people laughed at it. Yep. People said that was crazy. They said he was a meatball. He's an idiot.

Like, they're not gonna win any games. He turns out to be, Max, is he a winning coach? A winning coach?

I wasn't paying attention.

Dan Campbell winning coach?

Yes.

Okay. So he turns out to be a winning coach. So you can't fully base every it's like 1 of those, every poor press conference doesn't make a bad coach, but every bad coach probably had a poor press conference.

Bad. I remember when Jim when Jim Zorn was introduced as the coach of the Redskins, he was promoted from being the offensive coordinator before he ever coached the game as the OC. He was promoted to head coach. In his introductory press conference, he said, like, I can't wait to represent the maroon and black Mhmm. Of the Washington Redskins, which are not the colors Yeah.

Of the team. And so from that point on, you just were like, I don't really trust this guy a 100%. But with Dan Campbell, yes, he he's kinda overcome what a lot of people thought in that first press conference. But the first thing that people bring up usually with Dan Campbell is like, yeah. You know, this is a team that'll eat your kneecaps.

Yeah.

They still talk about it. A positive. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

But it was at the time, it it was laughed at for sure. Okay. This is this is Liam Cone's acronym.

It takes complimentary football at all 3 phases to be great. Offense, defense, and special teams. How do we wanna play the game? And that's fast. Fundamentally sound, attacking, situational masters, and tough, both mentally and physically.

You see players in the room right here, guys that I've had conversations with already. It will always be about you.

So he's not the worst speaker. I think it's just that his his face was put on on incorrectly.

He sounds like he's

trying to do a presidential campaign.

No. He sounds like he's giving a TED talk about coaching a football team. Yeah. That's if you play that back and and think about a guy on stage in, like, a leather jacket with 1 of those microphones that attaches to his chin. And now listen to him.

This is

a TED talk.

It's also it's also just crazy because all you had to say was we want our players to play fast.

Yeah. You

don't have to do an acronym for it. Yeah. Fast is good. Fast is fast.

The faster you are, the faster you're out of position if you're not a situational passer.

True. Good point. To the yeah.

Think about Ted Talk.

It takes complimentary football at all 3 phases to be great. Offense, defense, and special teams. How do we wanna play the game? And that's fast.

Yeah. This guy's looking for funding.

This is this is South by Southwest. They're gonna be like, hey. We're gonna do a presentation on football.

Yeah. Is it okay. 1st, we're gonna bring out, Elon's gonna host this panel about football guys.

Yeah. Well, I mean listen. Yeah. I'll say this. It works in the for the jags just because it's kind of a a hilarious just visual and everything.

And he could be a he could end up being a head coach. But if you were a bucks fan that was upset, feelings hurt, crying, being a baby, Stephen Che, you should watch this and be like, we're okay.

Yeah. You feel good. You feel good. But I hope it works out for the Jaguars.

I do. Too. Max, I have a

question for you about the birds. Yep. Rumors on the street are that Kellen Moore might be the next coach of the Saints. How do you feel about that?

Will the Saints get a coach?

I don't know. He interviewed for that a while ago. It it is alarming that they haven't hired somebody new yet. I was hoping that Mike McCarthy what?

Alarming. Yeah.

Oh, did they do I didn't even know they did a second interview with him. Yeah. They flew into Philly.

Yeah. They they went there. Kind of a thirsty move by the saints.

No. It's it I mean, we lose our coordinator. Jalen Hurst has had 8 different coordinators since he's since he's been in the league, and I feel like he's only been in the league for, like, 5 years. So it's that would suck, but, you know, you gotta worry about winning right now. That's the only thing that matters.

Are you worried that he's gonna be doing interviews instead of getting prepped for the

He just did his interview.

He just

did his second interview. No

more interviews.

Been using he could've been using that time for the Chiefs.

Do you think that maybe Sirianni is, looking at Kellen Moore doing all these interviews, and he's like, you know what? Maybe I should take a more hands on approach. Maybe maybe I could call a few players for the Super Bowl.

No. But anti stat for you, Vangio guy. Vangio.

Vangio? You said that. New if we get a new if we need to get a new van

So, yeah, it sounds like a

Vic Vangio is actually a great van name.

Last year, Dolphins faced Mahomes. They lost that game, but the Chiefs only scored 14 points, and Mahomes threw for a 180 yards in that game.

Okay.

Uh-huh.

Anti stat.

Most recent time in play. I never said anything about, what?

The stat? No. You just got anti stat.

No. But the stat I said is still correct.

As a clean exercise.

You know, context. I'm adding more context to to your stat. Mhmm. Context stat. Okay.

I was looking up during that whole Bills talk, I was looking up I was looking up anti stats.

So what was what are the other games? So if he didn't throw a touchdown, so that means in so if we just went to 7 games, he's o and 7, 10 touchdowns, 2 interceptions.

No. There's a couple others, but that was the bet that was the most recent 1, so that's why I used that 1.

You just got Van Gioed.

I got Van Gioed. Yes. You guys What

were we talking about

before this?

You guys get turned on by just looking at Van Gio?

It's great when you give Max anything that he takes offense to because you know that, like, you can go have a cup of coffee, read the newspaper, take a walk around the block, and then when you come back, he'll be ready to come back at you.

Yeah. There

was a clip there.

He'll be and he'll be pacing around the room while he's gone. You just say you're, like, in the room.

Here's a stat. Like, alright. Hold that thought. I'll be back in 30 minutes. Then when you come back, he's like, alright.

I found it.

There was there was another clip that was going, that was, like, going around Eagles Twitter. It was, like, Chris Canty. He, like, got caught in a lie about talking about Jalen Hurts, and his producer, like, stepped stepped in in the middle of it and corrected him and, like, awful announcing. He was, like, wow. 1 of the craziest things on I've ever seen on ESPN, someone's producer coming in and correcting

the host.

I was like Damn.

Imagine like That producer was definitely a birds fan, by the way. Yeah.

I think he was just, like I think he was, like, I had Joan Hurt's top 10 before the year, and they and his producer was like, yeah. But you also said he was not top 10 during the year. I was like, this is my guy. Yeah.

That's a that's a Birds fan. Right?

That is

the fact that also announcing was like, I've never seen anything like this. A producer. A producer.

No way. Max, is Brandon Graham gonna play in the Super Bowl?

He's active. Wow.

And what about Cam Jurgens and, Landon Dickerson?

Schefter said that they have a real good chance of playing.

Oh. Real good. Okay. Do you like that you were in green? Oh.

Not you. There's not my team. He's already rattled. No. Like, you're already in Super Bowl mode where you're fighting stats.

I I just for the podcast listener, I said, do you like that you're wearing green? And Max looked down at his own shirt. I meant the uniforms in the Super Bowl, dude.

Yeah. Memes brought brought that up. It it's it's okay.

Okay. Yeah. That's not good. Put that on a quote card.

It's okay.

Max's thoughts on the on the Eagles wearing green. It's okay.

Yeah. Memes keep saying it's 21 Jump Street, 22 Jump Street saying meaning it's the same movie.

Oh, no.

And I just keep saying it's Rocky 1, Rocky 2.

Mhmm.

Alright. But I don't know about I don't think I don't think they wore the same style the same Yeah. The same trunks in both of those movies. K.

I don't think they're Are

you but you guys are wearing the same trunks. You're wearing what?

We are wearing the same trunks. I don't think in Rocky 1, Rocky 2, they're wearing the same trunks.

Okay.

Yeah. They were they were wearing the green that they wore the same green they wore in, the last Super Bowl. Correct? I believe that was.

Yeah. Same exact match. Same exact match. Uniform matchup.

Okay. Other coach hiring, news, the cowboys brought in, Brian Schottenheimer for his press conference. We also had Jerry Jones, talk more about glory holes. He said there's a very low percentage of this that is smiles and glory holes, very low percentage, talking about just the business.

He clarified himself when he repeated very low percentage

above the

glory holes. This is the second time that Jerry Jones has brought up glory holes, maybe even 3rd. I think he believes that a glory hole is a Super Bowl window. To him, it's the same thing.

Yeah.

So when he's like, I wanna get back to the glory hole days. I want me some glory hole. In his eyes, he's talking about being a championship team, but you don't make that mistake unless you're a man that has used a glory hole or 2.

Okay. Let me see. Might also just be talking about an oil well. Yeah. That he could be so I'm looking at on Wikipedia, it says a glory hole is a hole in a wall or partition often between public lavatory cubicles or sex video arcade booths and lounges for people to engage in sexual activity or to observe the person on the opposite side.

They're associated with gay male culture and anal or oral sex. I'm trying to find if there's any no. Gloyals go back all the way to 1707. Yeah. The trials of Thomas Vaughn and Thomas Davis, the 2 Toms going going at it in the glory hole.

Is there a peeping tom came from?

Yeah. Maybe. So is it is it anything let's see. In popular culture, no. So yeah.

Is it is it an oil well

as well? In in his mind, it might be. Like, that is a

glory hole. Oh, Yeah. Holehunter.com. I'm not gonna click on that 1.

You just

go up your stick your deck and all.

Yeah. Miners would use it to some for a spot in the ground that would yield an exponential amount of gold, oil, or whatever natural resource you're looking for. There we go.

That's it. That's what he's talking about. He's talking about oil, guys.

No 1 has told him that glory hole means anything else.

He's talking about when a man gets really oiled up.

Yeah. Also, Steven Jones is getting, kinda lambasted because he would did a press conference. Well, he's basically morphing perfectly into Jerry Jones. He's gonna be the perfect Jones heir to have the cowboys not have any success as well. But he, was talking about the drought, the 30 year drought Super Bowl and championship game drought, and he did air quotes.

Yeah. It's just quotes.

It's just

It's like

you guys Dude,

it is a drought.

The media has been obsessed with this so called alleged drought where we haven't allegedly won any Super Bowls.

Right. But drought. But it's

a it's 1 of those it's a bad stat. Gotta find the score. Stat. We've won several off seasons. The funniest part of this press conference to me was when they introduced Brian Schottenheimer, and the whole crowd clapped for him.

It was very nice, very positive. And then the loudspeaker introduced Steven Jones, the executive vice president, and nobody clapped at all. And then 1 guy started clapping and then 3 other guys kinda clapped, and they pretend to laugh. Oh. 0, you know, they're just busting my balls.

They really love me up here.

That's nice.

Yeah. The cowboys are are a fun watch of just I mean, it's just so funny that they just didn't do a coach search.

Well, they did. And they when they talked to Pete Carroll, he called Pete Carroll to get his opinion on Brian Schottenheimer as the coach. And then they said, we've also briefly talked about the possibility that he could coach, but it was just it was a fact finding call. Yeah. So B.

Carroll was probably very confused about that.

He's like, what is going on here? Am I applying or no?

Yeah. Probably not.

Yeah. So, alright. Do we have anything else before we do hot seat cool throne?

We're just not gonna talk about the fact that Cardi b has pierced her butt crack?

No. Okay. I mean, no. No. I didn't know that happened.

Yes. I wanna talk about it.

Yeah. She announced that on x.com, the everything app

Okay.

Yesterday. So dotdotdot, I got my butt crack pierced. Okay. Your thoughts? How?

How?

Well, then she said, do I lie and post a picture of it right here. So she got the top of it. Oh, I see how. But that's actually it's it's actually cute. I think it's cute.

Wiping has gotta be tough.

Yeah. Yeah. She's gotta front the back.

Like, I didn't wanna think about this with Cardi b, but here I am. It does. Okay. Alright. So she got her butt crack.

You should've

just done so I did a thing then.

Yeah. Some personal news. And It's butt crack. Picture of her asshole.

Mount Rushmore punishment? Butt crack piercing? I'm in. Just think about it. You say stink about it?

Stink about it. We also just had a crazy, college basketball Monday night with the Duke player puking, which is nuts. I've never seen that much puke on a basketball court. Yeah. And there's so many towels.

And then Caleb Love who is not good at basketball, but then hit a 60 footer to be good at basketball. He was 1 for 11 from 3 and then hit a 60 footer to go to overtime and win the game.

He's got

those games.

Yeah. He's yeah. What what was the it was like he puked and then a a fan passed out. What's going on in Cameron? From seeing the puke?

I don't know. It's hot. I guess it's hot in there. Yeah. It is hot in there.

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Hank. My hot seat is heat culture.

Yep. Yeah.

Jimmy Butler has been suspended indefinitely. It seems like they're gonna trade him.

How many times is that? Is this second, 3rd suspension this year?

Well, yeah, he's been trying to force his way out. Yeah. And they've just been playing That doesn't sound

like Jay.

Ball, but it sounds like the Heat, Pat Riley, you know, he had the bigger dick. He ended up on top. Sixers?

Shouldn't the guy with the bigger dick end up on bottom?

Be on top.

On top? It sounds painful.

Sixers? There is a rumor out there. Oh, no.

I don't I don't want him.

I mean, he's old, and he's proven himself time and time again to just be an absolute locker room cancer. Can't even win. Won 1 eastern conference finals. 2.

2.

I think the older the older is the bigger part of the equation. Mhmm. I think the older piece

is the bigger part of

the equation. I think that Jimmy Butler in his prime you would love to have him on your team if you're the sixers. Can you imagine if you got a prime Jimmy Butler on that team? You'd never let him go.

True. Kevin Love also has been just putting on a meme clinic throughout this entire process. I don't know what like, he just switched the flip and was, like, fuck it. I'm just gonna

I love it.

I'm just gonna get my way out through memes.

Yeah. Mhmm. I love it.

Very, very funny.

What about what about Phoenix? Is that still in the equation?

Phoenix is the favor right now to blame them.

But Bradley Beal has no trade clause. And although, like, yes, you you have no trade clause. You negotiated that for a reason. But come on, Bradley Beal. Does is there any

like, if you're a GM or you're KD or you're Devin Booker, is there any party that's like, hey. Instead of trying to get Bradley Beal or Jimmy Butler, why don't we get, like, 5 really good players that can be around us and we can be the guys? It's so weird to me. Whatever it's like, what's this what's the problem with our team? Let's add another alpha that needs the ball.

I also love that Matt Espio last year was like, I need to examine what went wrong with this team and figure it out as an owner so that we can move forward. And now he's trying to

do the same thing. Butler. Yeah. Just had another name that we all know. It's they're basically doing the strategy that I do every year with Fantasy Football where it's like, I think yeah.

Tony Gonzalez. I I drafted Tony Gonzalez, like, 7 years after he was good.

That guy was awesome.

Yeah.

I see his name. The Warriors

are the other team.

Warriors are a mess. I mean, a mess in that they are not gonna probably make the playoffs, and I don't know what like, Steph is let Steph be free. I think he probably doesn't want to. Maybe he just wants

to be

a run Jersey guy, but I would like to see Steph in another big playoff series before he has he retires.

It does feel like this is the end of that era. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Like, official, Can you imagine Jay Butt on that team would like, trying to get along with Draymond Green?

No. No. And I don't even think, like this is why, this is revisionist history. Just fucking should've just resigned Klay and just gotten like, you have to pick Elaine. Like, just maybe just get old together.

Yeah. And just be like, alright. It was fun, but everyone got to stay together. I don't know. I mean, it's not working.

Yeah. But they need we're gonna have to pay so much.

No. I know. Oh, yeah.

Exactly. I

know. Stupid.

I I

just feel like if you know you're not gonna win again, just go nostalgia. Yeah. It's not it that But if there

is any chance of winning again, not paying any

of that cost, yes. I agree. It was a dumb thought. I was just thinking of this. What you're saying,

though, which is if the team's not competitive, you might as well just kinda keep everybody around and together. And then let the moment maybe 1 day they'll all retire at the same time.

Or maybe they win 1 series again, like, as 37 year olds. You're like, oh, that was cool. Yeah. It's a dumb thought. I understand it's a dumb thought.

Really stupid.

I mean, a a dumb ownership group would certainly do something

like that. Yeah.

But a smart ownership group would not. Correct. Okay.

Cool, throw it. I I mean, this is where it's like a I'd I think I say this every time, but then I'm saying it right now. I'm talking about it, bringing it up on the show. So I have you know?

I don't know where this is going. I've fallen

into the trap

where this is going.

You've fallen into the trap again.

Are you good to talk about the Goon side again?

Nope. I never talked about that once. My cool throne is the Paul brothers.

Yep. That's a good 1. And, yes, your everything you kinda said, I don't really didn't really fully go through. But, yes, I agree. But I know what you were saying I and I agree.

I don't think it was I should have said

it first. The Paul brothers and the cool throne.

I say

this every time.

Yes. I

don't wanna watch it. I'm I know it's gonna be rigged. It's gonna be bullshit. People are gonna walk away disappointed. Yet here I am

Correct.

Talking about it again, and I probably will I definitely will watch it.

And we already I already have Max, the streaming app. Right.

Yeah. So it's no additional money.

Max raised his hand. I do have I've I've multiple Maxes.

Memes make the I fell for it again award, although it's a guy wearing a Celtics hat, and all the all the medals on his chest are for tuning in to Jake Paul fights.

Yeah. They they need they need to be, like, a knockout. Like, the

the first

needs to be, like, $5, $5. If either 1 gets a knockout, a 100,000,000.

Yeah.

Yeah. Agreed.

Who do we got?

Jake. Logan's bigger. No. Jake's bigger. I thought Logan was taller.

But Jake's beefier.

It's Jake.

Is it boxing? Jake

is the better boxer.

Jake has been training boxing more consistently. Logan's on the wrestling. He's and he's done, like, the faker fights.

I mean, we're talking about this. Right.

Is it

but is it is it boxing match or is it MMA? What is it?

It's boxing. And it also might all be a

it's all it's all might be a work. Yeah.

Because,

like, the wording of it is kinda weird.

Yes. Logan is yeah. Imagine they come out and just play rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Logan is 62, 205, and Jake is 6 1 Okay. 227.

Alright. Yeah. So Jake. And they have the same exact reach.

So Jake. Also, this time of year, be have have your alert your antenna up high because anything that you see that that stirs your interest, pretty good chance it's a Super Bowl commercial.

Mhmm. Yep. Very good point.

This 1 has a date, but March 27th.

Yeah. Still. But still. Alright. Okay.

Good job, Hank. Good job, Hank.

My hot seat is saying it with your chest. Mhmm. So I was watching Good Morning Football yesterday, our good friend Peter Schrager on that show.

Mhmm.

Love Peter. Kyle Brandt, friend of the program. We like Kyle Brandt.

Mhmm.

He went on a little rant about the Chiefs and the Bills and the reaction to the game and how there are all these people out there saying, everybody wanted the Bills to do it for America. But let's not turn this into the Chiefs or some evil empire out there

Mhmm.

That is easy to root for, and it's us against them. And we don't want them to win no matter what. Kyle Brandt also on Sunday put out a hype video for the game I saw that. Yeah. Where he was literally Rocky

Yeah.

As a Bills fan

Yeah.

And Drago from Rocky 4

With the Chiefs.

Were the Chiefs. Yeah. The evil empire was literally the USSR. Yeah. Where was Drago from?

Russia.

He was from Russia. He was from Russia.

Yeah. USSR.

And so he turned to he now he's saying, like, don't act like Yeah. You gotta root against the Chiefs, and they're literally an evil empire.

Yeah.

And you gotta take down Big Red. You just did that. Yeah. You just did that, Kyle.

Hype video. It was a very well done video.

And I I understand that, like, Kyle, he's he's not technically a Bills fan. He's like a,

Yeah. Yeah.

You know, he's a hype guy for the Bills. Yeah. But still, like, you you were actually doing that thing. Yeah.

And you were rooting for the Bills.

And also let people root against the Chiefs if they want to.

I couldn't agree more. I and I also like, I don't care if you want to say, I'm rooting for greatness. Like, if you're not a Chiefs fan, you're like, I'm rooting for Grace's. I I respect greatness. That's cool by me.

If you're just like, I hate the Chiefs. I fucking hate them. It's rigged. I don't like them. I hate Patrick Mahomes.

That's cool by me too. Everyone should just be fine with however anyone wants to root.

Yeah. If you want to root against the Chiefs because you think they are Satan

Do it.

Do it, please.

Yes. And Chiefs fans don't get offended either. Yeah. You like, you're winning. You you shouldn't worry what other people think about your team I think Kyle when you're winning.

I think Kyle tried to do the the neat little pivot

Yeah.

From Bill's superfan to, hey, Chiefs. I love you guys.

Yeah.

And that's a that's a hard move to pull off.

Yeah. No. I mean, the the the Chiefs' discourse, like, I I just don't if you hate the Chiefs, you just hate the Chiefs.

Now to be fair, maybe it was a bit because I was listening to it. I I wasn't watch maybe they were playing in the background, the rocking montage that he did. That that would be a bit. Yep. In which case, hand up.

I got it wrong. But if it's not, then now I feel like it's a different kind of bit.

Yeah. I'm I'll I'll put my hand right upright. Al, I'm not cashing out of my future with the Eagles. I will be rooting against the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, but I also respect his greatness. But I'm rooting I'm telling you right now, I'm rooting against the Chiefs.

I respect greatness, unlike big cat.

Are you gonna be rooting for the Chiefs? I think I have to. I mean, if I didn't have this future, I would be betting the Chiefs.

I never I just

the Chiefs

never wanted to root for the Eagles in that 1st Super Bowl. Big Cat had literally $200,000.

Yeah.

That was a big 1.

Wanna be sitting next to him rooting for him to lose $200,000.

I appreciate that.

So I bet $8 on him. Lost that. Lost the doink bet to Hank. I was getting robbed from all angles again that week.

Just bet Mahomes. I did it last year. Like, the the it was Chiefs fans, obviously, are like, you always root against us. I bet on the Chiefs against the Texans. I bet on the Chiefs a very big bet against them in the 49 in the Super Bowl last year.

Remember, we're sitting in the game in the cave? I think it was you, Dave, a couple other people around the 40 niners. And I was just sitting there, like, I got Mahomes. This is gonna be easy. Like, it's gonna they're gonna win.

I might have to go back to the no doinks well. Get my revenge on that.

What what I would say if I did

grand on no doinks at minus 500. What does that pay out?

Out? Probably a lot.

Elliott's been so shaky.

Yeah. Elliott has been shaky.

You were gassing at Elliott up last week.

I know because coach Gruen told him I had to.

PFT I'll say this. If if I weren't yeah. If I didn't have the seagulls future, I'd probably just run back what I did last year because it was a it was a very calming, Super Bowl watch of being like, oh, but Mahomes.

Yeah. He's got me.

Like, we're we're just sitting there watching, like, yeah. But Mahomes is gonna he'll be fine. You know what? Figure it out.

It's gonna be

in the Q4, and you'd be like, oh, yeah. 1 team has Mahomes.

NFL rigged. I think I'm just gonna go with the rigged. Yeah.

Do it. Why not? It's a

it's a decent watch. Betting on Undertaker at wrestle WrestleMania.

Yeah. I'm I'm 1 and 1 in in the last 2 Chiefs Super Bowls.

But wait. Undertaker lost at WrestleMania in New Orleans.

Yes. I was there. I

was there.

Oh, Max, let's talk about that stat.

That's good for you, Max.

So that stat.

That's great stat. It's great stat. Okay. Was he in your cool throne?

My cool throne is some random burglar in Chicago. This is also a fire fest, but I'm getting to it ahead of time. So I I get home on Sunday night. I sent my laundry out this weekend because I ran out of, of clothes. Had jumpsuits I had to watch, etcetera, etcetera.

2 giant giant duffle bags of clothes. I get home. They had dropped it off

on my porch. Somebody stole all my clothes. Imagine

Yeah.

Being that burglar and opening it up and being like, what the fuck?

Yeah. Not to brag, but I I think I have a pretty

A a a a Takis medium jumpsuit?

Yeah. So some burglar went up to my house. They probably were thinking Oh,

no. I'm gonna

get some good clothes. They stole these 2 huge fucking bags of clothes, got them in their car. They're driving away like I made out like a bandit. Let's open this up. There's probably gonna be Gucci in there.

There's gonna be Dolce and Gabbana. They unzip it, and they see 6 different Darius Rucker themed Washington Commander shirts.

It just it's basically like the robbing a bank and having the ink blow up.

Yeah.

The ink blew up on on all the jumpsuits that you had. Yeah. They actually did you a favor if it was

a lot

of jumpsuits. Just clean out for jumpsuit chain.

There were a few jumpsuits in there, but it was it was pretty much my entire wardrobe was stolen. So now I don't really have any clothes. I went out. I bought

I mean, I can a bunch of socks. We could just there's a loss in thought at my kid's school. Yeah. I could get you a new wardrobe tomorrow. You got any propeller beanies I can put on?

Elementary school.

But I now I'm looking at this, and I'm thinking this could be this could be a good opportunity. I'm turning 40.

Don't change.

Could be time to start dressing like an adult. I'll be so mad

at you if you change. You have a style.

I was thinking about maybe getting some of the TikTok girls to give me fashion makeover.

I think you should dress, like, high like luxury.

Like Joe Burrow. Like, I turn into Joe Burrow now.

Back to the stars. I could be down with that. I don't want to go

in scum to just absolute, like

Yeah.

Yeah. I could be down with that.

But I

don't want you to just be

worn. Hearts.

I dress plain. Hank dress dress plain. You're you you gotta be the 1 Max, memes, we all fucking wear the same hoodies. We need the guy who comes in and is like, hey. You guys see this jumpsuit?

It's got croissants all over it.

This this to me feels like a great opportunity, though, to to to turn a page. It's like the universe telling me, maybe it's time to stop wearing f 15 onesies.

No. But I would be supportive if you wanted to do, like, a full, like, ass less suit, like

Yeah. Like, turn into super, super fashion.

Did they have was the 1 jumpsuit that you look like a bunny rabbit, was that in there?

It was. Yeah. Yeah. They stole my that was Christmas story. We had a Christmas story 1.

Yeah.

That's what I was really hoping. It's just right

on top.

The first thing he sees.

They I that's what's made

me not be that pissed off about it. It sucks to lose all your clothes, obviously, but I can get over it.

Yeah. They might return it.

I I have well, I the first thing I did when I saw that the bag was gone, I drove around my neighborhood anticipating that they open it up, saw what was in there, and just threw it out their window. Yeah. They're like, fuck this.

That's so funny. So, yeah, maybe I'll just do

the I think I might try the fashion makeover.

That's so funny. Yeah. Oh, man. I would love to get and listen. If you're an AWL and you're listening to this and you just robbed a bunch of jumpsuits in commander's gear, no penalty.

No no crime will be committed. We would just like to interview you and get your honest reaction for when you opened up that bag.

Maybe just return it so we know it's you with, like, a long note.

Yeah. Just saying, like, when I opened this bag, I was disgusted. And that made me change my whole life and realize I

need

to get on the street and narrow.

Yeah. Maybe they learned a lesson. Crime doesn't pay.

That's so funny. Alright. My hot seats, I got 2. 1 is, Jaylen Milrow in hand sizes being back because Jaylen Milrow has insanely small hands.

What are they?

8 inch 8 and 3 fourth inches. To put it into perspective, it would be the smallest hands of any 1st round quarterback ever taken. And in 2022, only 1 starting NFL QB had his hand size under 9 inches 9 inches, and it was Taysom Hill. Oh. Yeah.

Not good, especially because Jalen Milrow, also does things like throw interceptions and, not throw to the open guys. Yeah. Not be able to throw.

That's a very small hand. I would say that everybody on this podcast has a bigger hand than that. Yeah. Yeah.

No. Hank's got tiny hands.

Yeah. Little hands. Little guy. I don't know.

I have big hands. Oh, actually, I have 3 hot seats.

What? But did you see when, like, when Josh Allen fumbled that ball just just picked it

up Yeah.

Off the ground, just palmed it. That was

a pig's neck.

Like, yeah, like a a vacuum cleaner. It was a snarf. Hands mean something.

Yeah. Actually, no. I'll switch 1 to a cool tour. So, my other hot seat is, Archie Miller. Archie Miller, head coach of the University of Rhode Rhode Island.

Andre the Giant. Did you guys see Archie Miller's press conference? Now I have to defend Archie Miller in the fact that I also get caught a lot. But Archie Miller, was doing a press conference after a game talking about, what's the toughest league in or in the, country. You wanna play the press conference?

Here you go. Here was his quote.

Today, like, you you know, the SEC is the best league in the country, but, you know, in all games, they're, like, 54 and 54. Somebody said that. I don't know if that's even accurate, but, like, do you know how hard it is in every league, you know, to to to win? You know, it's just hard to win any game.

So the problem with that is, Archie Miller is quoting, I gotta find the guy's account. I apologize to him. I'll shout him out. Does he have it there? Shout out that guy.

He tweeted, something that was it was basically joking. He was just saying, oh, the SEC is supposed to be the best league in the country. Well, why are they 54 and 54 since January 4th? Obviously, a joke because it's all conference play, and then Archie Miller went and took that stat and, used it in a press conference.

Yeah. Because there's some bad teams that are at the bottom. 5450 4. To a good team, the good team gets a win, but you get a loss.

Just very funny. But, like, I saw somewhere. It's 54 and 54, and so that must that's crazy.

Yeah. The NFL was 500 this year Yeah.

As a league. The league is down. It's not getting done. Anyone who says the league is down, there it is. Yep.

The league is down. Technically, how many games could is it always finish oh, no. No. I'm still There's 1 win. Yeah.

The Super Bowl. No. I'm an idiot. I was like, oh, yeah. But the Super Bowl's a stand alone game.

Yep. I'm a moron. I just Artie Miller myself. But, yeah, shout out the guy who

I guess you could say, like

got him got.

1 conference ends up with a slightly better record.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That will always

Wasn't that the Stephen Che thing? He did a prediction for the whole league

and No. But he he did it wrong.

Off by, like, 10. Yeah.

Because his predictions weren't game by game. They were just I think that this team is gonna win their division with, 13 wins. This team's gonna have 10. This team's gonna have 10. This team's gonna have 9.

No. But he did the whole, like, data thing. Yeah. And But that's impossible. Game by game, but it wasn't it was impossible.

Oh, I I found the street. Jacob Pickle. Great. Jacob Pickle. Shout out Jacob pickle.

He said, wow. The best conference in the history of college basketball is 54 and 54 since January 4th. ESPN once again showing their SEC bias for some teams that can't even get above 500.

Mhmm.

That's great. And then Archie Miller went and used it. Good job, Jacob Pickle. Shout out pickle 07. Also, great username there.

My cool throne, I have 2. 1 is our guy tailgate Ted. So he actually hit us up PFT and was like, thank you guys for the shout out. And, he has a if you go online, he has he's trying to raise money for Lung cancer. Lung cancer.

Against the

right answer.

Yeah. Research. So shout out tailgate Ted if you can donate to the GoFundMe. It feels like he's he's handled it all very well. Like, he was obviously made fun of on the Internet a little bit, lost a big game.

He's turned it all into a positive. Seems like a genuinely good dude, and you always have the hard rock. The hard rock, dude. The hard rock, you when all else fails, like Pablo Escobar going back to Medellin. Put your picture up on the

wall of the Hard Rock.

Tailgate 10 will just get back to Hard Rock, and he'll just be around his people.

He does seem like a good guy. He he also needs to realize that in this moment where he's become an Internet flash point, there are going to be a lot of Eagles fans that will then respond to anything that you say.

Yeah.

He's like, I don't know why I'm still getting trolled for it.

Yeah. No. It's gonna be a while.

Future statements. It's gonna it's gonna last for a little bit.

Yeah. So so everyone, his his, Twitter username is tailgate Ted. He's got the links there. So shout shout him. And then my quilterone is, Max and the Philadelphia 70 sixers, for not posting about the Eagles.

Should we talk about that? I didn't know to put that in a hot seat or quilterone. That

makes sense. Josh Harris.

Yeah. Well, not not really. Not really.

Every other team in Philadelphia posted about that posted about the game. The Sixers went radio sized.

Kind of

a sense.

Kind of a salty move by Josh Harris. Like, the Sixers are Philadelphia. You have to separate those 2. And, also, what

would Yeah.

But does Philadelphia own the Sixers or does Josh Harris?

Well, I mean, the people I mean, the people kinda

There's another thing.

It's their team.

Jeffrey Lohrey wants to buy wants to buy the Celtics.

Yeah.

He wants

to buy the Celtics. But what, but, hey, what would it hurt Josh Harris for the sixers to just be like, good job, Eagles, on their Twitter account? That's 1 of those moves. Like, you just have to just ignore it because if you don't, it's a Streisand effect. You're not gonna they don't post it, and then everyone's like, you're a salty, petty bitch.

Maybe he is. He probably is, which I'm fine with that, but just dude, who cares? Should I I think let him post?

If they had posted it, we would also talk about that on the show.

I don't think so.

No way. I

don't think anyone notices those posts.

Max Max would definitely be like, how your owner just congratulated the birds.

There's there's no way I would have known.

Yeah. You would. Yeah. You would.

The only reason is because people were going to all of the every other team in Philly posted about about it. The water the water dogs posted it. Shout out to water dogs.

Shout out to water dogs. Mhmm. Wait. You're an owner of the water dogs.

Yep. Wow. How How about that?

Bigger man is Josh Harris. True. Bigger man is Josh Harris.

Way to go, Max. Well, I decided That's how you fight that.

I didn't even think about that when I said that. Yep.

I decided to put, you know, my my business relationships aside and acknowledge the local team.

I'm just more like, there's no way a Twitter post would bother you from the team you own. Like, is Josh Harris even on Twitter?

No. I don't think so. A lot of people are saying Philly has not been happy with Josh Harris recently. They they point at at at what's happening with the commanders, and they say, he doesn't care about the sixers, all this stuff. Mhmm.

Feels like that's not 6ers suck

in the command although the sixers did just beat the Cavs.

It is crazy too. Like, when you own multiple teams, I feel like you just put yourself in that spot all the time where if 1 of them is not good, everyone's like, why aren't you making that team good?

Yeah. Because they're like, you don't we're not your priority anymore.

I just I there's no way he by not posting it, you're just like, oh, he's bothered. Yeah. That's my only point.

Yeah. The the commanders are to Josh Harris. That's Barron. The Sixers are like Eric. Mhmm.

And then the devils are like Don Junior. If you wanna put

it in Trump terms. Yeah. Yeah. You got that?

Sure. I I don't know. I don't understand what

Also, I only found out about this because Max came up to me. He was like, you see Josh Harris didn't post this?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was mad.

Yeah. You so you actually care about, like now I'm back on PFT side because, like, you can't actually be like, why the fuck having the Sixers post?

Well, I

think it's Well, no. No. No.

I didn't know about it until other people were were talking about it. And then although, realistically, I think it's probably, like, the social media manager who was who was like, I'm just not gonna post about this because I don't know if my boss Yeah.

There's a very good chance that this never got to Josh Harris' desk.

I I assume that's probably what it was. Yeah. Yeah. I don't

want my boss mad at me. Correct. Yeah. And, honestly, like, fair play to both sides because if he had posted that from the sixers, then I would have been like, what the fuck, dude? Like, his his fans in DC would be mad, or his fans in Philly would be would be mad if he doesn't post it.

You know what he should've done is he should've just posted from the Sixers account, good season commanders who just ran into a better team. Like, compliment the commanders and be like, put the 6 the Eagles are a better team. Like, this shit happens. That's what sports are.

Are the NFC east once again representing the n the NFC in the Super Bowl. Congrats.

NFC beast.

Yep. NFC beast. NFC beast. Did they they have not? Because usually teams will get bullied into this.

They have not updated it. Do you think they'll post anything for the Super Bowl?

They got to. Right? If they win? Yeah. Yeah.

They got to. Also, the real,

If they lose and they post something, that'd be very funny.

That yeah. No. That would be funny. Yeah. They're like, oh, so close.

Great season, guys. Nothing to be ashamed of.

So

close. Basically, like, you didn't win a playoff game Yeah. If you don't win the whole thing. Alright. Let's get to,

I guess it falls on our shoulders now.

Let's get to JOC. We got our, exit interview with him about the Fantasy Football season and what our strategy is going forward. Before we do that, we got a couple ads.

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Okay. We now welcome on 1 of our very, very dear friends. He's a very, very, very, very, very, very special guest. Alright. It is Jerry O'Connell Yeah.

In studio. Yeah. There's no 1 that's more committed to us than Jerry O'Connell. When I say when I texted him, I was like, hey. We wanna have a recap of the fantasy season, football season, everything.

Yeah. He just said, okay. What day works? And I was expecting it to be Zoom, and he's like, alright. I'll, I'm gonna land in Chicago at 7 AM, then I'm gonna fly back out at 3 o'clock.

That's what you do for us. Yeah. You came in. You have the briefcase.

Oh, yeah. What's what was

the flight what's the flight schedule today?

Flight schedule was I flew out last night at 11 PM. Okay. Landed, 5 something.

Okay.

Went to, it's great. They're they're a partner. Went to Planet Fitness.

You should've just come here to our new gym. I should've. Yeah.

We have a Planet Fitness right here.

Yeah. I would've come here. It's just like Hank is, like, all oiled up and stuff and Yeah. Like, waiting on the squat rack. And, you gotta go in the locker room with him, and he's like, you wanna do steam?

And you're like, no, man.

Yeah.

And he's, like, watching you, and then, I didn't bring shower shoes. There's no way I'm going in that shower barefoot.

Yeah. Yeah.

So I just went to my man. You went to your? Mhmm. Yeah.

And then you went and got a breakfast?

Yeah. I got a breakfast around the corner.

And

And then when do you fly back?

I fly back today at, 3 PM. There it is. My daughters have volleyball practice tonight, and I've gotta go watch them, not start and not play well and act like I'm involved.

So Now that's a nice quick John out here. Did you stop at at any apartments that you've been looking at? Because Jerry always sends us apartments usually on Chicago's Gold Coast.

He's like, hey.

Look what you can buy here. So funny. My algorithm is so crazy. By the way, shout out to all the algorithms out there. They've really

got it figured out. Agreed. Shout out to algorithms.

Red note. My algorithm is, well, I mean, first and foremost, it's usually like, big tits.

Yeah. No. My goal I've actually I don't know if you do this, but I, because the algorithm always works. And if you click on it, if you if you watch the video, they'll give you more of that. So I always make sure that I watch the big tits.

So now it's pretty much only big tits.

Yeah. It is just it is a little it gets a little awkward because I have, you know, 2 teenage kids and a wife. And if you say anything like, oh, hey. Look at this text that so and so sent, and it's Instagram. That usually comes up, and I'm always like, woah.

Woah. What what is this? Yeah. Yeah. I'm not following them.

What is this?

Shout out to Algarism.

Zuckerberg. But, it's that. A lot of it lately has been Josh Allen crossing an imaginary first down line Yeah. On that 4th down play. I don't know if it heard me talking about it.

It's in my thoughts. I mean, I actually haven't been talking to anybody about it. I've just been thinking about it a lot because I live at home with my wife and daughters, and I'm the only 1 who watches football, so I have no 1 to talk to about it. So I haven't even been, like, saying anything out loud. It's just it's been feeding me that.

And, finally, what it gives me is moderately priced apartments here in the Chicago area.

Yeah. They are great deals. Yeah.

I must have clicked on 1 and sent it to you guys, and now it's my thing. Oh, also, I have other algorithms, like, I have a Giants friend. And anytime there's a Giants meme or anything, you know, a lot of stuff with Daniel Jones wearing his helmet on backwards. I don't know if you saw that 1. Yeah.

Where is it? Like, I sent him the Jets me. I have a few Jets friends that I send Jets memes to. And, I mean, we should, talk more, and I I could send you some Commander's memes and some Bears memes.

Yeah. That'd be great. You send you you have free reign to send any text.

You know, it's funny. I do, I don't send you guys many sports memes because I'm sure by the time I've seen it, it's been sent to you 1,000,000 times. Mhmm. So I try I try not to waste your time. I do have a texting relationship with both of you.

Mhmm. And I don't try to abuse it. I try to send you interesting things.

And you also have a texting relationship now with, Max, memes, and pug. You got the whole Mhmm. You you you basically asked for all the numbers, and you've been texting with I I almost just threw you into the part of my take group text.

No. No. I have a question.

And then we would it would turn green.

Yeah. Maybe go green and also Yeah. We'd be talking about what dinners we're gonna get a lot, and you'd be jealous.

Wasn't it so fun being your fantasy manager this year and finally getting into that group text and being the only green bubble just to fuck with them hard?

I think it was a 15 person group chat. I tossed Jerry in. It immediately turned to the green bubble, and everybody was like, who the fuck is this? And Jerry just immediately became an agent of chaos Yeah. And started sending shirtless pictures to the chat.

Yep. You did you took it upon yourself to to organize the draft order by taking names I've had while shirtless.

Well, we were a week away from our draft, and we still did not have a draft order. So I made a video of myself doing a draft order. And if you recall, there was a controversy, as they say in England, a controversy where we got the first pick. Yeah. And everyone said I cheated.

Yeah. And I was actually upset that we got the first pick because you gotta take Christian McCaffrey, and thank

goodness. Yeah.

Thank goodness they just went to some random pickinator to redo the draft because we would have been fucked hard. Yeah.

Yeah. It started it started with a bang. People I I I thought people didn't really appreciate Jerry from the get go. But then as after, like, 1, 2, 3 months, they grew to love Jerry. And now Jerry is, like, the unofficial mascot of that Fantasy League, which it goes to show.

If you keep Jerry around long enough, you're gonna end up loving him.

Yeah. Guys, I really, I'm I'm I'm almost like the Mark Andrews of our of our of of our league. Like, I really dropped the ball for you guys. I lost by for those who don't know, I posted a few times on X. We lost in in the game that would have taken us to the championship by point 10 points.

Mhmm. Mhmm. Point 10.

And that's on the manager.

You know, it is on me. I It's on the manager. I I I gotta tell you, hand up. I take full responsibility. I never admitted this to you, and I'm gonna say it now.

At the trade deadline, we were offered a straight up trade. Max, you listening?

Max is not a yes. I'm listening. I'm listening.

We were offered a trade straight up AJ Brown. We had Joe Mixon, and I turned it down. Mhmm. And that is why we lost.

Mhmm.

I

don't know if you recall, but those last few weeks, Joe Mixon just shit the bed. Mhmm. He had single digit scoring weeks, week after week after week, and you have to start Joe Mixon. And, you know, I'm not defending myself here. But in my defense, you know, AJ Brown at this time was throwing helmets on sidelines.

He was reading self help books in between plays. I just thought the Eagles were gonna eagle, and I didn't want any part of that. And that was my mistake. And I want to apologize to your faces.

Okay. I appreciate you. Accept it.

A little bit because I gotta tell

you that like, you I'm sorry. What were you gonna say?

I just I feel a little bit like John Mara where it's like if I'm gonna I'm gonna kill myself if AJ Brown beats us.

I just sit there.

Yeah. I'm doing this right now. Ugh. I is it fair to say, Jerry, you're you're you're not on the hot seat, but people are asking if you're on the hot seat.

I I I think yeah. I I don't even think it's a hot I think people are saying maybe he needs, like you know, when a coach, Nathaniel Hackett, when he was with the Broncos, he had to bring in Great coach. A a clock manager. Do we need to bring in maybe someone who's won championships before to be like a senior analyst that can at least you can talk things through with them, when you're worried about a trade or a starter sit. Just just an old head that maybe maybe has been through the wars that can give you some advice.

That's just been thrown out there.

Yeah. Not not anybody that's above you. Right. But just, you know, somebody that you can you can ask questions.

Well, they would that person, if we brought in that person, they would technically report directly to us. Right. And Jerry would have to report to them. Mhmm. But, again, not above you.

I I I would like to remain calling all the plays.

Okay.

I I feel that responsibility should be mine. I'm a coach of men. Wait. What did Syria

Leader of men?

I'm a leader of men, and, I I think I can handle it. I I just wanna say for the record, 2 years ago, we made it to the finals and we lost. Mhmm. And this year, we came in 3rd. So, I mean

It's a

lot of noise.

But, I mean, like, listen.

Josh Allen just just defended his coach.

Yeah.

I know, but

questions are happening with Sean McDermott. It's like, have you has Sean McDermott been the same coach ever since Demar? Have you been the same fantasy manager since Demar?

I I I wanna say for for those who don't recall, we went to the championship, the week that Demar Hamlin say it.

Almost died. Prayers for DeMar. Prayers for DeMar. For DeMar.

Went down, and we were losing by just a few points, and we had to negotiate to have our quarterbacks Yeah. Be a part of our total score the next week, and we lost. We look. I I you know what? I've I've I've I've I've I've I've realized that my job is on the line here.

No. No. No. Listen. We didn't want this to be an accusatory.

It's not an intervention. We just have had internal discussions about the framework of our organization. When we lose in the playoffs, we have to look in the mirror and say, what can we do better? The process. Is the process what we want it to be?

Because the standard that we have as an organization,

it it couldn't be higher. Yeah. And it The standard is anything less than championship Right. We we don't want we don't think about that. Our goal is to win championships here, and I'll speak on behalf of Big Cat.

We're giving you a vote of confidence.

Mhmm. You're our you're our manager.

You are our manager.

You're our manager whether we add a general manager. Who knows? But what would you say the standard is?

The standard is I

No. No. Already missed He

already fucked it up.

What is the standard, Jerry?

Championships.

No. Jerry, what is the standard?

The standard. What is it?

What is the standard? The standard is winning.

No. So close.

Your standard is defeat is impossible.

Just repeat it. The standard is the Standard.

There it is. Got

it. Alright. It's our guy.

I don't like how long

You know what? See, we're culture guys. We're not

I don't know how long it I don't like how long it took to get there.

Okay. Let me go through I I did some research. I have a fantasy recap and what we might do next season. Is it okay if I go

through that?

And then you can

I had a question for you before we go through that?

Sure. It's not it's not the robot question yet.

No. It's not the robot question yet. Is your wife ever gonna follow us on Twitter? All her tweets are just tweeting at us, and she doesn't follow us. That's a that's a I'm just saying, like, locker room culture.

I went and looked, and the last 4 tweets are directly at me and PFT.

Yeah.

I mean And she does not fall us back. Her 1 of her tweets, our daughter just sent me this video. She was simply doing her homework on a Sunday night. They don't know who DAC is. This is Jerry's erratic behavior.

I was talking about on your sports podcast. Also, there's a picture of you from Thanksgiving. What is happening? PFT and Big Cat Jerry will only talk about benching Laporta. It's bumming everyone out.

Happy Thanksgiving. And then she said, so happy pardon my take fantasy football season is over. Big Ken PFT, Jerry's torture on Sundays. And do you know why? Because he sucks at it.

Loser. Get a new manager. This is your wife, supermodel, by the way, who is calling you a loser and asking us to fire you. Is that winning culture?

Listen. I don't I'm not in charge of her socials. You know, I'm not that ingrained in her career. It's not like a a Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds thing happening with the 2 of us. We do our own thing.

But my wife maybe doesn't follow you guys because when you follow someone, you can DM someone. And last time I was on here, you talked for a good 90 minutes about how you used to masturbate to her image.

I don't think that's what I said. And over

and over.

I don't think that's what we said.

I said I I loved her in the swimsuit issue.

Yeah. Yeah. But then you, like, did the weird, like, lip you, like, licked your lips and stuff.

I don't think

I licked my lips. We just said that her swimsuit suit issue was a very big part of our childhood.

I became a man.

Yeah. Yeah. But I would there. Right there. I got her.

I'm saying that's a myth.

That you're being anything that you masturbated No. To my wife. And why would my wife follow you?

No. I'm saying I she I I grew up.

Yeah. That could be everybody

watching her.

That could be learning how to drive a car. It could be a bar mitzvah. That'd be quinceanera. There's a lot of things that becoming a man is. Yeah.

But why you know, my wife for decades has dealt with, like, weirdos and creeps.

Like, I'm not weird.

I think things like that.

Point us out to them. We'll we'll we'll handle them for her. Like, is Jerry bothering you, Rebecca? We'll help you.

I will talk to her about following you. I'm sorry. I didn't know that you weren't being followed.

Also That's okay. It's okay. But she's listen. She is, I would say, the perfect example of our fan base being upset about our fantasy manager. So we wanna hear from the fans.

Okay.

Maybe we need to do a a a Jerry Con where we invite all the fans and and they can tell us face to face, hey. Here's the problem with his fantasy managing because we answer to the fan.

Jerry, let me just ask you this. Stand by Me.

Yeah. I'm listening.

Great film.

Thank you. Classic.

How would you describe that? What is what is the genre of film that is?

A buddy a a coming of age film. Exactly. Interesting.

Rebecca Romaine was a coming of age thing for me.

Making I understand what you're using the word coming.

No. No.

No. No. No. You said you said the word coming.

You started that. You. I it was a long view. It was

a long view.

It was like It

was not. German Jews with the 2 dots on it. It was, like, booming.

Yeah. Yeah. You yeah.

It's a it's a coming of age.

He was zooming. He was zooming there. I would agree with you.

A cooning of age.

Yeah. Guys, listen. Let me get to my fantasy preview for you. What I can do for you as a manager, I know you're thinking about bringing someone else in. I don't wanna bring anyone else in.

I think I can handle all the play calling duties. Let me just give you the research I've done based on Sure. The 2024, 25 season Okay. And what we have to look forward to.

Okay. You have that before. Yeah. This is basically yeah. This is our exit interview after a tough season.

What it is? That's what they do. Every team does this. After the season's over, all the players meet with the coach and the GM. Wow.

Talk about, hey. What where what's the direction you think you're going? How did you play? What can you get better at? Is this a performance improvement plan?

Yeah. It's not. No. No. That we only we only have 1 of those that we're allowed to use, and it's currently being used.

It's like a franchise tag we're currently using on memes. So we the PIP can't be passed around like that.

Okay. Let me let me go through my preview. Okay.

Okay. So the exit interview. You're not exiting.

What would you say you do here, Jerry?

I didn't know that Joe mix I mean, that's also just that's a transparency issue. Because we find out yeah. Like, The Athletic is gonna do a story about this Mhmm. Being, like, inside a tumultuous 24 hours of the part of my take fantasy league and be like, Jerry O'Connell turned down AJ Brown for Joe Mixon, and that's where the that's where he lost because imagine if you're AJ Brown or, sorry, if you're Joe Mixon Mhmm. And you know that Jerry is shopping you, how do you how do you go play ball

after that? It'd be tough.

It would be tough. And you said that his his his season took a downturn Major. Right after you had him on

the trade block? He he actually fucked us. He fucked us out of, out of out of winning the whole thing.

Mhmm.

Oh, guys. You you wanna see my Planet Fitness shorts? I was

in sort

of a rush. I had to go with the jorts. Nice.

Are those the bing bong jorts? Oh,

man. How about mister bing bong? Can you believe I was in Stand by Me? I was at Jerry Maguire. And, currently, the thing I'm most known for is mister Bing

Bing Bang.

I can't wait for for NBA playoffs. We gotta bring them

back. Alright. Here we go. This is, our fantasy recap exit interview.

You don't like that word, but that's what they use. Like it. Yeah.

Let's start with the AFC North. Let's start with the Bills. That was a bummer this weekend.

Oh, no. Oh, hold on. Time out.

Yeah. Wait. Big cat. I I think we need to get somebody that

Oh, sorry. A c.

I see. I I feel like

was a Jeremy.

That was a tough 1. Like Joe Biden now. I have to be like, no. He's fine. He's of sound mind and body.

He he could still do this job.

Do you use Madden for any of your rankings and help just in decision making?

No. But, actually Maybe just Sometimes when I, when I gamble, I use, I look at fantasy defenses, how they're gonna perform. Mhmm. And I I was always looking for a system with gambling.

Yeah.

And I thought, oh, what if I'll use fantasy defensive rankings and bet, whoever the the the team that that defend bet against the team that that defense is playing, and it didn't work. It wasn't a system. Okay.

I know that Brick is a listener of this podcast. Yeah. Brick could be the guy that we bring in to work with Jerry.

Yeah.

No. Don't do it to me, guys.

Oh, he he knows the inside and outs of NFL franchise. Yeah. Don't do it to me. Okay. So where are we starting?

AFC East. Got it. Let's start with the Bills. Their receivers have been a total bummer this season. I mean, Khalil Shakir is their number 1 receiver.

Amari Cooper, they got hosed by the Browns, man. That was that was a bad trade. Kinkade has been a bummer. Mhmm. Of course, Josh Allen is a stud.

Of course, James Cook. Man, he was possessed, so good on Sunday. Led the league with TDs? Mhmm. 16.

But nobody else. I mean Cooper was weird because it looked like

it was gonna be a good trade right at the start, and then nothing.

Nothing. He had 1 game against Tennessee

Yeah.

But nothing. And by the way, that's what they were missing this weekend. Alright. Let's go to Miami. I wanna apologize to you guys also, for not making that that AJ Brown trade.

But also, I did not see John o Smith this season.

Mhmm.

And that's something if you are managing a fantasy team, you need to draft people in the 12th round who end up being a top 5 in their position.

That's that might even been a waiver wire.

It may have been. I just didn't see him, and I apologize. It was too late.

What happened with her wire this week or this year? Did did we make any big pickups? We,

you know, Jaylen Warren was a waiver wire pickup. I don't really recall at this time about our waiver wire. Mhmm.

Because that's

do not recall. That's what noted in the exit interview. He said I do not recall.

But can I have, like, Belichick? It's like the undrafted free agents. That's where you win. Yeah.

And your his answer was I do not recall.

Do not recall. Not important. Okay.

But you know what? Tyreke, Waddell, and Tua, I I HN is, of of course, is incredible. But I got to tell you my problem with Miami. Your head coach can't shiver on a sideline. That's not allowed.

And I got it. I'm not even making a joke here. Like refugees shiver like like dogs. Dogs that don't have homes. Oh, by the way, Max, way to be.

Congrats on Nola. Max.

Thank you, Jerry.

Billy. Whatever.

Yeah. Nola. Yeah.

Nola. Rescue dogs shiver.

Yeah.

You know? Head coaches can't shiver

on national television. That's why I like a fat coach.

Yeah. You have a good layer of insulation.

Mhmm. By the way, I think Tyreek Hill is gonna go to Washington.

You think so? Oh, interesting. I think

Josh Harris is gonna pay that 27,000,000, and it's gonna open everything up, and I'm really looking forward to that.

Yeah. He's a great player. He's still really, really good. I just don't know. You gotta take a gamble on his, you know, some of the off the field stuff.

I think, I think coach Quinn can handle it.

Okay.

I think that'll be fun. The Jets, means are you there? Hello. None of them ever. Yeah.

Again. Ever again. I think this team, this last season is gonna be studied for what not to do. By the way, this is part of my take. We have to have takes.

I

think the problem is Aaron.

Mhmm. Okay. I think

he's the problem. And and I'm gonna tell you why. I I told you I have teenage daughters. They're at the age now where they're bringing suitors home, young men. Mhmm.

And I make them say hello to me and I shake their hand and I go, hello. Nice to meet you. I'm I'm their father. And I looked them in the eye. I looked them in the eye to look for to see if they're druggies.

Yeah.

And I gotta tell you, Aaron Rodgers has druggy eyes. Mhmm. He looks like a druggy. Mhmm. And I I know this because I'm dealing with young men all the time, and I looked I looked at them and I'm like, is this a druggy?

Is this a druggy? You're a druggy. Get him out of here. Aaron Rodgers just has druggy eyes to me.

Mhmm. Yep.

And you

know what? You don't want that around Brick. We mentioned Brick. Impressionable. Impressionable.

Yep. Oh, I my, Jets buddy, memes. Are you still there? Still here. My Jets buddy, thinks that Justin Fields is gonna come to Jets.

Interesting.

Yeah. I got a name for you. Okay. What about Derek Carr?

That's a good name. Yeah.

It's a good name. I I just this season really You're just off quarterbacks. This season with him, I I'm just not feeling it. I know he's a friend of the show. I listened to his interviews.

It was it was a great interview. He's must he looks good. Good arms. Definitely works arms.

No druggy eyes. Maybe Prozac eyes. He's got the mascara.

He's got beautiful eyes.

Mhmm.

He's he's a he's got pretty dreamy eyes.

Yeah.

Oh, I I do think I do think Aaron Rodgers will go to I think he'll go to Tennessee.

That's kinda perfect for him.

I could see that happening.

Yeah.

Maybe the Browns. Maybe the Steelers? Maybe. Alright. The Patriots.

Hank, are you there? Yeah. Hank. Man, can you believe that people will actually get nervous when I'm about to talk about their

Yeah. Because you give your final judgment. Yeah.

I can't believe it actually matters.

Oh, memes hate you, by the way, from what you just said about the Jets.

Yeah. Listen, memes. I'm a Jets fan. I I it's gotta be said. Sorry, memes.

You didn't have a coach all season.

See? He's mad.

Also, Davante Adams and Gary Wilson. You should take them.

Hey. You know what? I wanna ask you memes. Aaron Rodgers, does he have druggy eyes?

Yeah. He's a full blown drug addict.

But he had he had

the 2nd best season in in the franchise history.

Top 5 quarterback. Top 5 quarterback.

He was

top 5. Everything.

With the

Texas game.

Hank. Yep. We're gonna draft Drake May next season. Fuck. Yes.

Wow. We're gonna draft him. Let me tell you. Josh McDaniels Josh McDaniels is going to turn Drake May into Brady 2 0. Wow.

You got Tom Marone now too.

I I gotta tell you, Hunter Henry, Hank, you're back. Not only that. I think that's

the first time that's ever been said. Hunter Henry, you're back.

Mhmm. Hank Hank is back. You guys are picking 4th? Yep. Alright.

Let me say this. New York shitball Giants pick 3rd. Mhmm. If they pass on Travis Hunter, the Giants, and the fucking Patriots get Travis Hunter, I will be so because then we have, we have a Hank problem for years to come if that happens.

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

So Become then he become Hank becomes Hunter Henry at that point.

It's so scary. Oh, but you know what? I think you should, the Giants should take Travis Hunter. I think you guys at 4 should reach for that, I'm gonna mispronounce his name, Tete McMillan Tatoria. Oh, from Arizona.

The awesome wide wide receiver, Tetoria. Somebody help me look it up. Max, you're good with accents. You're good with names. Tet.

Max?

You can just call him Tet. That's what I that's what I've been saying.

No. I wanna say his I wanna say his full name. Look it up.

Tet tett tettoria. Tett. His name's tett. Oh. His name's tett.

Good 1, Hank.

Tettoria. Tettara. Come on, Max. Tetara. Guys, give it 1 shot, Max.

Go for

it. Tetara. T Mac. Tetara.

Tetara. Tetara. Tetara.

Tetara. Tetara.

Tetara. Tet

Tet. Tet. Alright. T Mac. I think you should draft T Mac in that 4th spot.

You should reach for it. But, Hank, great job, man. I mean it. Really good job. Thank you.

Okay. We're gonna get back to Jerry O'Connell in a second, but does everyone know what time it is? What season it is? Hockey season. 2/27.

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AFC West. Okay. That right? The Chiefs. Right?

Yep. Yeah.

Okay. The Chiefs, it's tough to get a beat on them because everyone was injured this year. You know what? I know Mahomes have big games, that Carolina game, that Tampa game, a couple others, Houston, Pittsburgh, but he had kind of a blah season. He didn't oh, this is a fantasy recap.

Obviously, they had a winning record. This isn't about records. This is about fantasy. Everyone on that team had a blast season and watching them these last few weeks, I have a feeling these old heads wait till the playoffs to start playing. Like

Yeah.

Watching Travis Kelce, it's like he really didn't start playing until last weekend. And that's not what we care about. You know? Like, we want regular we want weeks 1 through 17. Oh, hey.

I have a non fantasy question.

Okay.

Obviously, Josh Allen and Halley Steinfeld. Mhmm. Steinfeld getting Steinfeld? Halley. Halley Steinfeld.

Tettoria. Yeah. Get engaged. Do do Travis, does Travis and Taylor, do they feel that pressure?

I think they I think she's waiting to propose to him. I think her fans would be like, how dare how dare Travis think that he can propose to her and put her on the spot like that?

Well, isn't she sort of like a I don't wanna put anyone inside of a, like, a I don't wanna cage anybody into their artistic boundaries. I don't wanna give anyone artistic boundaries, but isn't she sort of a mainstream like, aren't we waiting for, like, a formal, like, engagement Yeah. From them? Like Yeah. Isn't that informal if the woman is engaging?

Sorry to be, I guess I I was questioned.

I was thinking, somebody asked the question in the gambling cave on Sunday. What if the at the end of the Super Bowl, confetti coming down, Travis Kelce gets on a knee and proposes to Taylor Swift? And we were saying that the Swifties would not like that. No. Because that's putting her on the spot at his biggest moment.

So what if she proposed to him at, like, the Grammys or at her big like, a big concert that she was at? That to me feels like that's that might be the way that relationship's going.

Yeah. AMAs, Grammys. Yeah.

Then they just become essentially the king and queen of America at that point. Wow. Like, they become the tar the the number 1 tabloid story.

Yeah.

What are Travis and Taylor doing today?

There's gotta be pressure. All they're they're they're also at that age where everybody's getting engagement rings and, you know, what he he's just giving her a friendship bracelet. Like, the 1 of those concert what do you call them? A friendship bracelet where

they give each other? Yes. A swift, yeah, friendship bracelet.

Friendship bracelet. Yeah.

It better be the best ring ever Gotta be. Ever.

Alright. So, yeah, none of the Chiefs. Okay. Chargers. Oh, you know what, guys?

I wanna thank you. In our fantasy preview in August, you told me to draft Ladd Ladd MacConkey. Yeah. And you were right. That's how you win fantasy.

He was a 10th round draft pick for us.

So let's see. The most important pick that our team made, me and big cat actually made that pick.

That's right

in the spot. Just said that's how you win fantasy, and we didn't win anything.

Not winners.

Players. Sounds like the standard is just getting into the playoffs. Pick.

Just ran that down. Hey.

You know what? Pardon my take. Gotta have a take. Justin Herbert, for fantasy reasons, kinda sucks. He's, Yeah.

They ran the ball a lot.

He's not really, gonna work for us. I gotta tell you too about the chargers. That Quentin Johnson drop in week 12 against Buffalo Mhmm. I I the circumstances, I think it was was it 4th? It was 3rd or 4th down.

They needed it. It was against Baltimore. Right? It hit him in the hands, and he dropped it. That was some that was some remember Daniel Jones tripping on the way to the end zone?

That was some butt fumble. Yeah. That was some Cody Parkey double doink. That was like I I I can't look at that franchise for a few years after that drop. Okay.

It's just 1 of those That's fair. Oh, Najee Harris might go there. That would be interesting.

That would be interesting.

Possible landing spot for Tyreek. But, other than Ladd, we're not touching anybody. Let's go to Denver. Okay. I have a kind of a take with Denver.

Denver gets Tee Higgins or Stefon Diggs. Courtland Sutton, and Bo Nix are must drafts. Their defense, we played them so much this season. They're awesome. They could in that draft reach for that Matthew Golden guy, that, that tall Texas

Yep.

Wide receiver. Denver's running game, we're not touching it. Gervonta is old. Please don't tell me Aldrich Estime is good. But if they get t Higgins Bo Nix Cortland Sutton must dress

okay

so you think that if they get another really good wide receiver

wide receiver

then their number 1 receiver gets better

yes yes or their number or we go with whoever their number 2 2 receiver is. But they they just I I have a theory and fantasy that you need you need that Addison to help Jefferson. You need that Jefferson to help Addison. It opens it up and people score more points. I mean, point.

Look at the Lions this season. They all opened it up for everybody. You know?

Yeah. I I do think that Bow Knicks is gonna have a great year next year. Yeah. Have you seen the the clips of former quarterbacks for Sean Payton talking about the play calls that they have to learn No. And how long they are?

They go on for, like, 15 seconds sometimes. You have to tell everybody on the offense what you're doing on that play and then also throw in, okay. Here's what we're gonna check to in case they blitz. The fact that Bo Nix played that well his rookie year in Sean Payton season, I think he's gonna be great in the 2nd year. Mhmm.

I like it.

Okay. Let's go to the Raiders. I don't know what's gonna happen there. Now, if they get Shador, okay, which they're saying they may trade up for to get Shador. They may trade with the Titans.

That's a possibility. Then I have to tell you, Jacoby Myers and Bowers become must have.

Love that.

If Russell Wilson is their quarterback, we are I'm not even going to watch oh, I'm not going to watch a Raiders game. I'm not only am I not gonna draft anyone because they're typically afternoon games because they're West Coast. I may not watch afternoon games next season. Yeah. If Russell Wilson is the starting quarterback on the Raiders, if Pete Carroll does that to the Raiders fans, I

I I I

I want nothing to do with the Raiders.

Okay. Fair. Yeah.

Oh, speaking of Russell Wilson, AFC North Steelers. Steelers are in the AFC North.

Yes. Correct.

Man, like that Seahawks defense. You know what? Richard Sherman Richard Sherman was right. They carried Russell Wilson into the playoffs. Don't you ever talk about me?

Remember that?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was

I was at that game. I was

Oh, really? Yeah.

Sorry. Receiver like Crabtree.

Man, the Steelers are in for years of hurt. Yeah. It's just it's gonna be years.

Yeah.

It's gonna be bad. It's gonna be bad. Oh, but you know what? I will say, from a fantasy standpoint, Najee Harris leaving, Jalen Warren becomes a must try.

Mhmm. Good

running back. Oh, George Pickens. Maybe the Commanders?

I don't know about that.

Why? That

would be awesome

for you. He's I love watching George

Uh-huh.

When he's on a different team.

Okay. Hank? Hank? Hank? Jerry.

Jerry. Jerry. Jerry. George Pickens to the Patriots? I'm kidding.

You you

don't think that coach Rabil can straighten him out? I don't know

if anyone could straighten down George Pickens.

He's so good, though.

Yeah. But he's not. But he's so good, but he's also not.

Alright. Ravens, AFC North. Right? Mhmm. Oh, man.

You know what? I missed not drafting Zay Flowers, fellas. That was on me. You know, I work with a guy who told me once Zay Flowers was small, and it was just in my head. That happens.

It just gets in your head. You know?

You get it taken. It's hard

to get off it. But you know what? I gotta say, man. I gotta pay you guys a compliment. When I came in here with my preview, you said draft Derrick Henry because he's gonna look good in a in a Ravens uniform.

Yeah. And you were right.

Yeah. He looks really good in a Ravens uniform.

He looked big. Strong. Let me ask you something. If you were in an executive position, in the NFL

Yeah. If

you were making decisions about players in the NFL The answer is yes. And you use these rules.

Like, you

know what? He would look good Yeah.

We'd be good.

In a uniform.

Yeah.

Yeah. Do you think that would Uniforms are 50% of the game.

But do you think that sort of thinking would make for do you think vibes? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. You gotta go on vibes sometimes.

Like, you look at the Photoshop of a guy and you think, okay. What if, for example, what if Tom Brady was a Tampa Bay Buccaneer? That looks good.

Yeah. Derrick Henry as a cowboy doesn't really look as good.

No. Yeah. You guys were wrong. I think you said Andy Dalton was gonna look be a good bear. He's gonna look good as a bear.

Didn't Well, that's it looks Andy Dalton knew he was wrong.

The new hair. So That was Yeah. Maybe it

wouldn't work. I also love Derrick Henry's

new hair.

Yeah. He he goes even higher, I think, on my board next

year.

We are definitely, if they're around, gonna draft Lamar and definitely Mark Andrews. That man is gonna be on a mission. Mhmm. He's on a mission. He's got months to just sit at home and think about it.

What a bummer. No. That was so funny when you posted the photo on x of Stavie. I'm not gonna say it because it's on here, but with the thing in his mouth Yeah. You post that photo, and I remember looking at it and be like, woah.

I can't believe they're posting that. That's not good. And then I watched it. Yeah. None of it was

in there. He was down bad.

That was funny. The Bengals. Man, I gotta say, you guys told me to draft Chase Brown. I didn't. Big pass.

The more I go through

this There's a lot of misses.

This is Sounds like

you lost under the bus.

Sounds like we drafted a perfect team.

You were right about Chase Brown. I I missed on that 1. Kiseki kinda sucked. You know, Tee Higgins, wherever he does go, something you think about. Last 2 seasons, he's missed 10 games.

Mhmm. So that's something you think about when drafting him. Obviously, all the all the Bengals, they're great. And you know what? I think they're gonna I think that Al Golden guy is their new defensive coordinator.

Yeah. I don't know anything about him, but he looks like a football guy.

He's a good defensive coach.

Do you think that with Tee Higgins, maybe he missed some of the games because he was thinking about getting a big contract? Protecting himself.

No. I think some players just get injured more often.

Yeah.

Browns. This is interesting. If the Browns draft Cam Ward I think the Browns have the second. Mhmm. If they draft Cam Ward, Jerry Judy will be a must draft

for us.

Okay? If the Browns because coach Stefanski used to be Kirk Cousins' offensive coordinator, if Kirk Cousins goes to the Browns, Jerry Judy will be a must draft.

Wow.

Ford and Chubb, it's it's we're not drafting them. But if they get a quarterback, Cam or Kirk,

draft Jared Judy.

We're drafting Jared Judy.

Okay.

And when Chubb when he's healthy, if you have Chubb or you have Ford and you're watching a Browns game, whoever scores a touchdown, you get excited, and it's always the guy that you don't have.

Yeah. Exactly. Always. Exactly. Bummer.

AFC South is dead to us.

Yeah. I was gonna say skip the whole thing. Entire division.

They're just cursed. What is the word in hey, Max? Max? Max? Here.

Here. Present. What's the Italian American term? It's the malocchio it's a malocchio. It's like the curse.

Right? A maloic?

Yep. Malocchio sound sounded right to me. It's malocchio.

I think it is. It's like the curse. Yeah. Titoria. Titoria.

McMillan. Titor we gotta get that. I want to apologize to mister McMillan. T Mac. I'm sorry.

Once I once we get it, we'll get it. But the malocchio they the AFC South just has the malocchio. CJ Stroud, let's start with the Texans. What a bummer, man. What a bummer.

I gotta tell you. Anthony Richardson, I believe, was more successful than CJ Stroud this season. I'm sorry. I'm just fantasy points, possibly. I don't even care about fantasy points.

Just in terms of expectations That's a take.

I like that. That's

a take.

I'd like you to go on

that take. That's a quite a take.

Yeah. Just in terms of expectations, CJ Stroud was a possible, like, Super Bowl contender, and he did not have a good season. You know, I know I have a bad taste in my mouth because of Joe Mixon and that trade and how the Texans finished their season. Look, Nico's great. I get it.

Tank, get get well soon. Mixon did have a good season, but I gotta tell you weeks 15, 60 it's 14, 15, 16, 17. It it wasn't okay. Schultz sucked. None of them.

They got the malocchio. The Colts. Oh, man. I gotta I gotta take ownership of this too. We drafted as our QB 1 Anthony Richardson on our team.

Mhmm.

And that was a mistake. It will never happen again. Mhmm. I actually I'm I'm coming in here with takes. I think Anthony Richardson is out of the league in a couple years.

Oh, wow.

What did we say about that when Jerry said he's targeting Anthony Richardson?

I was like, I don't like that.

You said don't do it.

He said Yeah.

Don't do it.

Yeah. Guys, don't fire me.

Please don't we're not. We're not.

Joe, I paid for 1 third of it too. I

did. Yeah.

Your driveway suffered. And it was pricey. It was it was a hit. But I I've yeah. The Colts, the Miloccio, Pittman was bad.

Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor, could you imagine if we had if you had him on your team and he rips off that 41 yard run and at the 1 yard line drops the ball? And I wanna tell you, I wrote down what he said in his postgame interview. Okay? He wrote, you could be up 50.

You could be down 50.

It could be a playoff game. It could

be the 1st season. It it it could be the 1st game of the season. That should just never happen. Mhmm. That's

But he also killer. He did have incredible games down the stretch.

He understood that. And he was out to prove a point after that. But but but it's still I I want someone to say, I'm changing my after they drop after they do that at the 1 yard line and drop a ball and, by the way, lose a game that they should have won. Mhmm. They should say, I need to change I I I need to change major things in my life.

Yeah. Yeah. Something major has to change.

That's rock bottom.

I something major has to change. Not just like that just can't happen. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, he I I this is about you, Jerry, not about me, but I was in 3 fantasy leagues. I won 2 out of 3 of them, and I had Jonathan Taylor. So, again, it's about you.

Jonathan Taylor, you you won with with him?

I mean, his last 2 weeks of the season, he had insane games in the playoffs, in the fantasy playoffs. Yeah. Whew.

It's more about that 1 yard for you, though.

Yeah. But that's okay. Yeah. I do agree. Winner, loser, how you decide to get there.

I would like to see a little bit more like, that's the that's the worst thing that I've ever done

in my life after that game.

Yeah. I would like to I would like to see somebody say that.

Accountability. Accountability matters.

That's what we care about. For us.

As we're ready.

Is the standard. Yep. Yeah. He, weeks 16 17, he had 218 yards and 3 touchdowns, and then he went a 125 yards and 2 touchdowns.

Yeah. Like, so big cat, if if we're looking at 1 of our employees and they drop the metaphorical ball at the 1 yard line Mhmm. I would like them to say to me, I'm changing everything about my life.

Yeah.

Yeah. I agree with you, Jerry.

He did

I mean, good point, Jerry.

He he literally he he dropped the ball, and then he scored 6 touchdowns in the last 3 weeks.

Jerry makes a great point that we would like to hear that. Yeah.

Good point. K. Titans, do we have do you even do the Titans? Do we know how

to do the Titans? I I I'm sorry. I lost my train of thought. Yeah. I'm sorry, guys.

I I dropped the ball.

Keep going. Keep going. I dropped the ball at the 1.

People drop the ball all the time.

Yeah.

Oh, man. You know what else buns me out about the Colts? Oh, who was the Colts' number 1 tight end? Tell me that.

Number 1 tight end?

Who who who was their leading tight end? I'm just

gonna say Moeli Cox

for forever. It was someone named Kylan Granson.

Mhmm.

Kylan Granson, Mo Ali Cox, and their other tight end, Drew Ogletree, had a total of 400 receiving yards all season long. Mhmm. That's not okay. Dallas Clark, Jack Doyle, Kobe Fleener, Tammy are rolling over in their retirement chairs. Mhmm.

Jesus. Meloccio.

Meloccio.

The titans. Oh, I I do wanna say, I know if we were gonna draft anyone in the AFC South, then we're not because they're dead to us. Pollard's got some gas in the

Yeah.

I don't I don't hate Pollard. We we did draft Pollard on our team.

Alright. Good work. Good job.

Okay. And if the titans do not make that trade, trade spots with the Raiders and take Cam Ward, Calvin Ridley becomes

Mhmm.

A must draft. Mhmm. If that druggie Aaron Rodgers goes there

Mhmm.

Calvin Ridley becomes

Must draft.

A must draft. If we were drafting AFC South players. Oh, Cam Ward goes to the titans. Their new, general manager, Nick Borgazi. Not Nick Borgazi.

Nick, Nick Nick Borgazi. Nick Borgazi is their new general manager. He's the 1 who scouted Patrick Mahomes for the Chiefs.

Okay.

K.

So Cam

Ward and the types. Watch out. Best quarterback

of all time. Watch out.

Jaguars, I guess, Brian Thomas junior. He's pretty good. He can't draft Bigsby or Tethyan. Do they have a general manager yet?

No. No. That's not Tell

me about Ian Cunningham. Who is Ian Cunningham?

He is the assistant general manager for the Bears, and I would like for him to go to the Jaguars because the Bears would get 2 picks in the 3rd round, compensatory picks.

Wow. So you

have no, I'd like the picks.

You'd like the picks over

I he seems like a pretty good, like, guy that's trusted and you know? But I would like to fix.

Alright. Anyway, we're not taking anyone from the AFC South. NFC East. We're in the NFC.

Okay. Let's go.

It's the Eagles. Right? Yeah. Yep. Okay.

Birds. Max, next season, if I'm the manager, will I be drafting any Eagles? Max.

Yep.

First of all, before I say this, how do we pronounce Goddard? Is Godard? Godard. Godard.

You were right the first time.

Just Goddard. Yep.

Yeah.

But it's spelled g o e d. Mhmm.

Yeah. So it's spelled Godard. Pronounced Goddard. Goddard. Yeah.

Yeah. Goddard. Goddard.

We're drafting all the Eagles, man.

Alright. Okay.

Every single 1 of them. And if I am offered a trade for AJ Brown, I'm just gonna fucking click accept trade.

That feels like something we shouldn't telegraph.

Man, Smokes it. Yeah. We're just we're putting out some disinformation right now for anybody listening in our in that league.

You understand why I didn't make that trade. Right?

I mean No. I don't. Yeah. I don't. Because of the book?

Yeah.

Because you read a book? Yeah.

Oh, man. Man, remember that? Max, I just wanna say, I know everyone talks about Goddard. And by the way, I believe, don't quote me on this, leading receiver in the playoffs for the Eagles. Mhmm.

But you know when he won me over? That triple stiff arm in the wildcard weekend, man. Pow pow pow pow pow. Incredible. Back for more.

He could've just kept going, but he said he had to slow down to give him just 1 more punch. Mhmm.

Oh, I gotta give you an another props. Another 1 on the Eagles. I was staying at a, I don't know if they're a partner of the show. I was staying at a a Marriott Bonvoy Hotel. I'm sorry if

No. That's okay.

And there was an I was just sitting in bed, and there was, like, a a Marriott channel. And Jason Kelsey had, like, an infomercial on there because he's a spokesperson.

He's not usually on TV.

He was great. He was really good.

Yeah. I thought he

had a really good personality.

Talented guy.

Yeah. Watched that infomer. It was like a 20 minute infomercial. Show, and I was riveted. Yeah.

But it was good stuff. I mean, he's not playing any Are

you sure it wasn't just he has he has a TV show. He has a late night show. He does? Mhmm. Friday nights.

Was it a Friday night?

What what is it on? ESPN. Sorry, guys. This is the the this is the only sports I get all the sports. You're right.

Yeah. Love that.

Love that.

Good point. Good point. Because Mario Lopez is usually the guy that I see on TV when I turn on a TV in a hotel.

Do you ever think like, do you ever see Mario Lopez and be like, man, if my career had just gotten a little better, that could be me?

Good question. Good question. Good question. No. I I try to just worry about my own lane.

Okay. Alright. Yeah. No. Hey, listen.

I mean, I'm I'm here.

Yeah. No. You're here.

Isn't here. Yeah.

That's true. That's a good point.

Blue here coach last night.

That's good point. It's good point. Did you raw dog? Fitness. Did you raw dog it?

No. I put on, noise canceling headphones.

Okay.

Yeah. I went to a Planet Fitness. I took a shit. I showered. Yep.

And I came here. Yeah. Living the dream. Doesn't Mario Lopez want to be fighting for his chance to manage your fucking fantasy team again next season this night? Something that he aspires to do.

Why should he just, like

Mario Lopez probably would be awesome as a fan.

He's a good looking guy too, isn't he? Yeah. Ageless.

NFC East, the Commanders. Right?

Yeah.

He's on the NFC East. Oh, man. I know I've said this before. If Scary Terry gets 1 more receiver, maybe Davonta Adams, maybe Tyler Lockett Mhmm. Who doesn't wanna be in Seattle anymore.

Terry Kille. He would have a Ja'Marr Chase see a Ja'Marr Chase like season.

Wow.

I like that. I think we will get a wide receiver. I think you can you can bet on that going in next year. If we draft somebody in the 1st round or if we we sign somebody in free agency, I think we will have a a very good number too.

That Zach Ertz is so awesome too. Man, so good. Hey. Anybody see that video? I didn't hear you guys talk about it.

We're Fletcher Cox. Max, are you on, Max? Max? Max?

I am here. Fletcher Cox hugging Zach Ertz.

Cox hugging Zach Ertz. Man, that was that was emo, man.

Yeah. Mhmm. That was

Because it was, like so because it's Fletcher Cox, and he obviously can't pass a line. And he's going, Zach. Zach. It's like calling someone from the stands. You know?

Zach. Oh, man. That was really emotional. Yeah.

It

was cool. That moment. I really like that. Ert's not retired. He wants to make that very clear.

He shouldn't. Yep.

He was awesome, man. God, I love a Washington tight end as well. Cooley, Vernon Davis, Logan Thomas. Love him. Yeah.

Maybe they draft that Matthew Golden guy that we talked about earlier, that Texas guy or, Savion Williams.

TCU. Right? Football expert.

Yeah. Ohio State. Let's help Jaden out a little bit, everybody. Jaden Antieri. Oh, the cowboys.

Okay. This is interesting. I guess Dak is staying there because coach Schottenheimer is now the head coach. Right? So I guess all those rumors about other people coming in and other head coaches and all that stuff is not happening.

I don't think he really can move Dak. I think he probably has a no trade clause. Right?

Oh, what would it? You could trade him be of titans.

Would he be a better quarterback if his name was Zach?

Zach Prescott.

Yeah. Thought star.

Yeah. Zach Prescott. Zach Prescott

would be a pretty good quarterback.

But, yeah, I think Dak has the no trade,

so I don't

He does. Know that he would leave.

Alright. So he's staying there. I gotta tell you that makes me not wanna be a part of the Cowboys.

I

I and by the way, you know Jerry Jones is gonna Jerry Jones. You know, Tee Higgins is probably going there. Stefon Diggs, he's gonna get Aaron Jones over there. Water is wet. The Dallas Cowboys are gonna go 6 and 11.

It's just it's gonna happen. I don't care who is over there. Mhmm. It's we'll draft Brandon Aubrey. He seems to be Yeah.

Very good.

Very good. Offense. Alright. See?

Yeah. Yeah. You guys are Good job. The best kicker of all time. Yeah.

Good kicker for Jerry O'Connell.

Oh, okay. Let's get to the Giants, still NFC East. Right? Mhmm. I think the Giants have the most intriguing off season of any team in the NFL.

Now do you have a bias against the Giants, Jerry? I

don't mind the Giants. I don't Earlier,

I think you called them the New York shitbag Giants.

Well, they had a terrible season. They were unwatchable, and it's been that way for a couple of years. They have the 3rd pick. Right? Yeah.

Okay. I said earlier, they've they've gotta take Travis Hunter. Mhmm. There's some rumors that they might take, Alabama quarterback.

No. Uh-uh. Jill Milnerone. That'd be

crazy high.

Okay. It's been on some it's been on some, mock drafts.

Yeah. People will talk about it.

Okay. They get Travis Hunter. Mhmm. Sam Darnold comes over to the Giants. He's got Travis Hunter, Malik, and that quarter that running back, Tracy.

Max, they're winning the NFC East next week.

Wow. I don't know about that. Wow.

That's hell of a take.

Woah. Max, you you you hear those bells? Bing bong. Yeah. You hear footsteps, Maxie.

Sam Darnold comes there. Travis Hunter, Malik, Tracy, they're winning the NFC East.

It's always a different team every year.

But they better not take that Jalen Milrow. Mhmm. I've seen some I've seen some mock drafts with them up there. Let's go to the NFC West. The Seahawks.

Right?

Yep. Yeah. That's good.

Oh, God. All right. To prepare for this, I listen to about 20 fucking hours of locked on Seahawks. Kill me now. Because I really didn't know what was going on with them.

And I'll tell you, if we even think about drafting anyone there, it's because they went 10 and 7 last year. And I wanna tell you, the only reason why that team went 10 and 7 is because Mike McDonald is a really good coach.

Mhmm.

Alright. After my 19th hour of locked on Seahawks, it seems like Tyler Lockett is leaving, which leaves Jackson Smith Najigba. Mhmm. I said that correctly. Right?

I did. That was a little scary 1. Yeah. Jackson Smith Najigba. Yeah.

Max, if I means if I said anything, just beat me out. Okay? I'm really towing the line there. Jackson Smith Najigba.

Yep. Say it 3 times fast.

No way, man. No way. You're no way. You're not gonna Michelle Beatle me here. No way.

No way. JSN. How about just JSN? JSN?

JSN? JSN?

JSN. No way, man. No way. Max, have your finger on the button. Okay.

He's really intriguing if Tyler Lockett leaves. K. But you gotta be careful. He only scored 6 touchdowns this season, and we need touchdowns if I'm gonna be your fantasy manager and if we're gonna win. Also, Geno Steyn

What do

you mean if we said we said that you were? Yeah.

It's It's you're not getting fired. You just might have a boss.

The Cardinals, Kyler, I I I still love him. He's great. If he's around, we're gonna draft him. Trey McBride is awesome. Michael Wilson was a real bummer.

Thought he was gonna do a little better. Mhmm. Yeah. Harrison just needs to step it up or he needs help or something. I don't know what's happening there.

Yeah. We're we're a pro Marvin Harrison podcast

Mhmm.

Just for the record. In in case he happens to listen, big fans.

Senior and junior. Of course. Yeah. Both.

Yeah. Love them. Great family. He had a mediocre fantasy season, though.

Yeah. But it was good.

He's he's great. I'm just saying if he's Marvin Harrison.

All the marketing talking right now. Awesome. Lives in California.

Not in Chicago. Mhmm. Marvin Harrison.

But I'm your fantasy manager, and I wanna say if she's there and we have a choice of another receiver, we're probably going of of a cool sort of standing.

Right. But we're trying to protect you, but if it's gonna be you or us, it's this is you saying that.

Jerry O'Connor's team. Sound mind and body.

We we are a team.

He is consenting to anything Marvin Harrison senior wants to do.

Yep. We are we are 1. We are a team. So if someone's here in Chicago and I'm not here, they can come see you.

No. No. No. They can go out for our team. No.

No. No. Would you take a bullet for us?

You probably let me, wouldn't you?

Yeah. We yeah. Oh, yeah. We'd throw you in

front of it. Let's go to the Rams.

Not Mario, though.

Man, he looks so good, that guy. What does he do? Jerry, are

you gonna get into any superhero movies?

No.

Shit. You should try to do that. You should try to

I'm the voice of career move. I'm the voice of Superman in the animated, Superman movies, a few of them. You can Oh, okay. DC animation.

Okay. But as a career move, maybe talk to your agent, tell him Jerry's going to Marvel.

Yeah. I mean, I I've said that often, but it doesn't automatically mean that you're in those movies.

Push a little harder.

I I know, but I you can want something all you want. It doesn't mean it's gonna happen. You know?

It's kinda like us in a fantasy championship.

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The Rams, we're taking all of them. That receiving core, that puka cup, and I gotta tell you, Robinson. Mhmm. Robinson had 22 TD games. Shit.

Say that again. Robinson I won't say Jackson Smith Najigba fast, but I will say 22 TD games. 22 TD games last season, weeks 89, man. Robinson, he may be suspended a little bit. He did have a DWI, but, man, that receiving core is awesome.

You know, I know I told you I listened to 20 hours of locked on Seahawks to do research for this. I also I wanted to see where Matthew Stafford was, and I couldn't really find out any information. So I listened to about 5 episodes of Kelly Stafford's Time Out podcast.

Okay. You got any Kelly Stafford as

a podcast, Matthew Stafford's wife. It's actually an interesting podcast. It's sort of, it's from the point of view of, is is WAG a a fair term?

You say?

Yeah. It's not offensive?

Wives and girlfriends. Right?

WAGs of football players. So it's sort of interesting. But I think the 6th episode I was on, Kelly got to talking about next season with her husband, and Kelly Stafford said, this is exclusively on the Time Out podcast. You don't mind if I mention other No.

Go for it.

That Matthew Stafford texted her, let's talk about next season.

So there

it sounds like he's coming back, and Kelly is preparing herself for him to come back. Okay?

I think, yeah, you would say, let's talk if it was he's walking away

Yeah.

But since he brought in next season.

Mhmm.

Yeah. Let's let's talk about it.

Yeah. Yeah. So that means that next season exists. Mhmm. Yeah.

Okay. Interesting.

Brady didn't send that text, did he?

No. No. He just did it. Yeah. Mhmm.

He did. Yeah.

He did. And that's I mean, maybe he should have sent that text. Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, I do wanna say I did have a revelation in my 7th hour of, time out with Kelly Kelly Stafford. You gotta admit I do work for you guys. So, like, I know that No. No.

No. No. No. No. No.

No. No. No. No. No.

No. No. No. No. No.

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No. No.

No. No. No. No as your sort of fantasy expert here, part of my take, some people say to me after they yell, like, bing bong or stuff like that or yell, like, Maxi, they say, like, hey. When are you getting a podcast?

And, you know, I was like, yeah. Like, when am I getting a podcast? Like and then when I told you I was in the 7th hour of of Kelly Stafford's time out, I was like, you know what, guys? I think I think we've reached the end of the Earth. I think we've I think there's all the pocket.

I think

there's Yeah. Yeah. We've hit them all.

You know what'd be interesting though? It's like if there was a a WAGS podcast but for the wives and girlfriends of fantasy managers.

And if

there's anybody out there that is maybe like a wife of a guy that spends a lot of time on fantasy and he's annoying and you wanna start a podcast, I think Barstool Sports would probably be interested in producing that.

Yeah. Yeah. I might just be

for that. Yeah.

Hypothetically.

Bet you guys would like that. Yeah. Like, we're not follow me.

But yeah.

Just think we pick critical mass with podcasts. You know? I just think

it's over.

Yep. Yeah.

BFFs, that's all about chicken fries NDAs.

Mhmm.

Armchair talks about everybody's sober. It's good. It's healthy. Mhmm. Smartless actors talking, laughing at each other.

I mean, Rogan's got the ivermectin. Mhmm. What would my lane I don't even know what my lane would be.

No. I don't. Yeah.

What saves America? Is Biden's all good? I mean, what what I don't even know what my lane would be. Yeah. I think that's it.

Alright. 40 niners. Man, how funny that we dodged that Christian McCaffrey bullet. Yeah. We

could have we could have, like

I almost had the first oh, gosh. You could

have not won the championship. Yeah.

Yeah. But you know what? Faster. I got a problem with the niners. And you know what?

John Lynch obviously great at his job. They've been to 2 Super Bowls, great at his job. What's gonna happen with Brock Purdy? I don't know.

Probably pay him money.

I understand that. But is John Lynch gonna John Lynch and not is he not gonna show up to camp? Like, remember the whole I because I think that whole Brandon Ayuk thing tanked their seats. Them on a bad path. Yeah.

Yeah. Happens there? I don't know.

Yeah. It's a it's a interesting question because you would you would think that he would want to be paid, like, more than Dak Prescott. And Dak Prescott is the highest paid player in the league. But then now you've got all that cap committed to Brock. Your team's already making you've got a lot of questions about who you keep around.

And, also, you kinda owe Brock Berdy because nobody talks about Trey Lance because of

Brock Berdy. Mhmm.

And all of the all the picks you gave up to move up Yeah. To get Trey.

Yeah. It's funny. I didn't even think about that. Mhmm. Look.

I'm always just pay the players. You end up paying them anyway, so why keep them out? But, John Lynch plays hardball. Also so we're so we're gonna stay away from the niners. Also, I gotta say, I don't know if it's in, like, my age range, but, like, makes me think of the early eighties, and I get, like, the colors.

It gets kinda depressed. Like, I think of, like, cigarettes and earthquakes and just, like, I don't know. They kind of depressed me. It's always an afternoon game. All right.

NFC North, Lions, all of them. The fact that Jameson Williams went so off weeks 16/17, it just opens up that entire offense. Just all of them. All of them. Every single 1 of them.

I do think coach Campbell should have not played any starters in week 17.

Mhmm.

I thought that was a big mistake. I thought it was a big mistake. I I think it's why they're not playing in the Super Bowl. You know, it was so funny. I was thinking when Saquon watched Shipley score a touchdown on Sunday to see how pumped he got.

Max, are you are you still on? Max? I'm here. I'm here. To see how pumped he got.

Jerry's like Max's dog. He gets separation anxiety.

He's like, Max? Max? Max?

He can also I'm right here. You can you can see me.

Oh, yeah. It's cute, though.

You get afraid that Max left.

It I think it would've pumped the whole team up, and I I think they would've performed better against the in the postseason. Mhmm. You know, I think it has a lot to do. I'm not kidding. And this is this is part of my take.

I gotta have a take. Yep. I think a lot of it has to do with Copenhagen. I don't know if anyone has ever I know we have, like, fans of Zinn out there and stuff. Lucy.

Yeah.

Lucy, apologies.

That's okay. Let me try You want 1?

No. No. No. Let me let

me try that again. I think you should have 1.

No. No. No. Thank you. Thank you.

I'm off the neck.

You want a lip pillow?

I know we're all fans of Lucy here. Yep. Do it again. 321. Like, you know, Mario is like a super professional.

He

does Yeah. No.

He would takes he goes like this.

He goes Well, he wouldn't fuck that up.

3, 2, 1. I know we're all fans of Lucy here. Mhmm. And I gotta say because coach Campbell is a Copenhagen guy, I think that's been established in the limnocks. Right?

And if you don't know if you ever dipped, Copenhagen is like it's the main line of chewing tobacco. Mhmm. It's not like strands. It's not like long. It's like fine bits that go right to I mean, you're mainlining nicotine.

Yeah. It's almost like drinking, like, dark black Stella blue coffee Mhmm. And throwing in a Lucy.

Mhmm. That's good. That

was good. Good job. But I think because he's a Copenhagen guy, I think he's like, we're gonna keep going. We're gonna keep going. We're gonna keep going.

No rest. All gas. No brakes. All gas. No brakes.

And it you don't have a natural sense of, like, take a hey, fellas. Let's take a break for a week.

Yeah. Take a beat. Yeah.

So, I think that all gas, no breaks doesn't work. Vikings. What's gonna happen there? Is JJ is JJ McCarthy gonna be in good?

I I think he's gonna be good. I think Kevin O'Connell will make sure he's good.

Okay. Alright. I just, I just don't know. I I mean, we'll wait till the preseason. Will Kirk Cousins maybe go in there?

Going back?

I don't

think so. I think it's gonna be JJ McCarthy. Maybe I don't know what to do with Sam Darnold.

Packers. Oh, big cat. This is gonna excite you. The receivers suck so bad. Yeah.

Well, is it the receivers or is it Jordan Love?

I think it's the receivers. Mhmm. I think it's the receivers. It could

be both.

I I don't think Jaden Reed and Christian Watson are doing it. I mean, Kraft is good. You know? We're just staying away. The bears, big cat.

Mhmm. You ready?

Yeah. None of them. Are you ready? Yeah.

How do you feel like, do when you when you're about to hear my my take on on your team I

think you're gonna say none of them. So anything over none of them is a success. It's success.

6 out of 10.

6 out of 10 excited.

Well, it's so funny. I did a couple drafts of this because the NFL is ever changing, especially these days with, like, hirings and everything. We were going to say none of them

Yeah.

That they were poison, That they I expected that. They infected your team, mister Smith. They were the monkeypox of they're the human papilloma virus of fantasy. These are all fair. But now that your coach is Ben Johnson Yeah.

All of them.

Oh. Everything He fixed everything.

Turned around quick. Roma Dounse He's the antidote. Is going to be Jameson Williams 2 0. He's going to have 2 he's gonna have a rushing and passing, and he's gonna have 3 touchdowns a game. Okay.

Holy shit. Let's talk about drafts. The person who should've won the Heisman, Ashton Gentry, is he No.

I don't know. Travis Hunter

had a pretty good season.

I don't know if you could do should've. Travis Hunter won the Heisman.

Is this what what is the show called?

Pardon my take?

I'm gonna have a take.

Okay. Ashton James should've won the

highest. Okay.

Is he gonna be a bear? Possibly. If he is a bear, can you imagine

what coach Johnson is? Said about him and having to interview him? Yeah. I've imagined.

Can you imagine what coach Johnson is gonna do with Ashton James?

Yeah. He's gonna he's gonna get freaky with it.

What happened with Deandre Swift this this season?

It was the offensive line, but also he's he's not very good, I don't think.

I think there's a there's a big difference between running behind the Bears' offensive line and running behind the Eagles' offensive line. Mhmm. I think that's what that showed us.

Yeah. Maxey. NFC South, Falcons. Okay. I have a question for you guys.

If by the way, I'm gonna I'm gonna say it right now. I won't work with someone else as your fantasy manager. I I have to set I have to set

He's trying to flip

it on us. Boundaries.

I won't

I won't work with someone else. Alright. It's just the 3 of us.

That makes our decision a lot easier. Do do

you not get along well with others?

I just I don't wanna be stuck with Brick. Isn't that Woody Johnson's case? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it.

I think if it's

I think if it's Brick, you should have to accept that. Mhmm.

It's brick

if we get brick to do the

yeah. Hot flash.

Oh, he's taking off.

Do you

still have that weird tuft of hair in your back?

It's getting hot in here.

Yeah. I just had a hot flash. You guys are making me go through menopause. I won't do it. I won't work with someone else.

It's the 3 of us.

We'll take that into consideration.

Go call fucking Mario Lopez. Go call the guys from Smart List.

They have a like Mario Lopez would be pretty damn good as a nice manager.

Go call Kelly Stafford. Go call my wife. Have them all, way. To.

She'll follow us.

NFC South. Oh, here's a question for you guys. Yeah. I should probably start to wrap this up. Right?

This is going No.

That's okay.

Okay. Let's start with the Atlanta Falcons. If a quarterback week 18 against the Panthers goes off. I'm talking 2 passing touchdowns. 1 rushing touchdown goes off.

Looks amazing. Are we drafting him in the 2025 season?

Talk about Michael Michael

Sinek. Yes. I thought he looked pretty good.

I would maybe hold off. Maybe a late round backup guy. He's not your fantasy starter.

Okay.

Okay. What'd you see from him?

Just that see, here's the thing. It was week 18. It's like the last taste in your mouth. So you're like, oh, this guy. Yeah.

I'm targeting him. No 1 else is watching this game.

I don't think we should base our projections on week 18. Yeah. Is week 18?

That's a pretty important fantasy week. Right? Yeah. Mhmm.

Kyle Pitts is never gonna happen. Facts.

I like that. That's the best point that you've made.

Yeah. Starting to come around. Yeah. That's growth.

Bucks. Man, Stephen Che is gonna get so excited right now. He's getting some blood flow. All of them. Every single I like that.

Baker Evans. Chris Godwin before he got injured was, like, just having a record breaking season. Bucky, Irving, Cade, all of them. Oh, they even offensive do they have an offensive coordinator yet?

I think they're working

on it. They're working

on it. Yeah. Is it that, that that grant guy from Minnesota?

They're working on they're basically calling anyone who's talked to Kevin O'Connell or

Because if it's that Minnesota assistant right? Yeah. The Bucks are must haps, all of them.

I like that. They're about to have a

lot of fun. Oh, yeah. It might be that Marcus Brady guy too who was the passing coach at the chargers. Whoever it is, they're gonna have fun. All of them.

Saints, none of them. Could you imagine a world where Alvin Kamara is actually on, like, a team? Yeah. Be nice. I mean, what's what's his contract situation?

Why is he there?

I think they just didn't they give him 2 year extension? It's just not happening.

What do

you think about Spencer Rattler?

No. No. Okay.

Alright. Good. Good answer. Panthers,

wrapping this up, guys. Can you believe Adam Phelan is still doing it? Yeah. He's still doing it.

He's out

there doing it. Oh, 0, gosh. I know this has been a bad pronunciation. Chuba Hubbard. Right?

Mhmm. Yeah. Not Yeah.

No. It's Chuba. Yeah. Chuba. Yeah.

Chuba Hubbard, not Chuba Hubbard. Chuba Hubbard. Chuba Hubbard. Chuba Hubbard, is a must draft. He just, he's next season, if I'm still your manager, not working with anyone else Mhmm.

I I know in the past, I've said we're old school. We gotta get some running backs in the first, like, 3 rounds. We're gonna wait till rounds 4, 5, and 6 to get our running backs. Okay. Chuba falls right into that.

Okay.

And my final take, I think Bryce Young is gonna have a really good year.

Okay. I like that. So, That's it, guys. Yeah. So so we're like Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy.

We we we're gonna need some time, but you you're not allowed to interview anywhere.

I'm going to Jacksonville this weekend, but it's a personal thing.

Yeah. K. Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna block all interviews, but we're gonna need some time to to figure this out.

By the way, guys, I loved your take on that Jaguars hiring and saying, like, hey, man. Anything goes.

Yeah. There's It's the NFL. There's, there are no friends. Yeah. Yeah.

Weird guy, though. Yeah. Alright. So I have 1 last question for you, Jerry.

Oh, hold on a second.

Yeah. Well, no. My last question might be what you're gonna do. Just hold

on 1 second. Alright.

You alright.

You hold on. Hang on. Okay? I'll hold on. And, you know, I gotta tell you, I don't think you're seeing much leadership from me, and I wanna show you

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I'm here. Memes y Memes y Memes y. Been a long time coming that Memes got his own poem. Memesy Memesy Memesy, but it's tough to compete with that TV setup you've got at home. He's got 3 TVs.

Memezy, memesy, memesy. Yes. All those TVs and stimulation could put people into sports media comas. Memezy, memesy, memesy. But we can say for certain, Max won't be watching any college football with Tiffany Gomez.

He blew it. Meansy meansy meansy. Yes. The man has 3 TVs. His sports coverage, 1 could not strengthen.

Meansy meansy meansy meansy. But maybe on 1 of those TVs, Max could watch his favorite show, the penguin. Oh, he loves that show. Memezy, memesy, memesy, yes. Your shenanigans with Maxy are always such a hoot.

Memezy, memesy, memesy, you're always a good friend to him, making sure his toes stay warm in his walking boot. Tootsies get cold. Memesy memesy memesy, we love hearing your electric voice. Never do you ever sound gassed. Memesy memesy memesy always bringing the energy for this national sports podcast.

Memesy memesy memesy. Such an essential part of the show. You truly are the can do man. Memesy memesy memesy. Always staying ready in case this sweatshop hits you with that poor performance improvement plan.

Pippo. Fuck these guys. Memesy memesy memesy. Yes. You're 1 of the greats like Mattingly, O'Neil, and Matsui.

Memezy memesy memesy. And you've lasted here way longer than our old friend, Huey. Nothing. No explanation? Memezy memesy memesy.

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Memezy. Memezy. We also don't wanna set off alarms like you threatening to strap a bomb to your chest and go full Al Qaeda. You can't do that, memes. You can't do that.

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Cool content, bro. Memezy memesy memesy. Yes. We love to hear you and Maxie in the booth with all the back and forth needlings. Memsy, memesy, memesy, like what to do with Max and PFT's hair, but careful around PFT's brand new seedlings.

They're expensive. Memesy, memesy, memesy. For so much of this show, it is you that we have to thank Memesy, memesy, memesy, even if you're continually threatening to physically fight Max and Hank. Memesy, memesy, memesy. To the man of many talents and those talents you love to lend, memesy, memesy, memesy.

Perhaps that anger would abate with the presence of a girlfriend. Hope she likes TVs. Memesy, memesy, memesy. We all know you are capable of showing affection toward a special girl with a sense of humor and perhaps long luscious hair. Memesy memesy memesy, that has been evident in the love and care you've shown mister Pear.

You love that turtle. Mhmm. Memezy memesy memesy, you take such good care of mister Pear and all the pets that we neuter and we spay. Memezy, memesy, memesy. But if you start dating that young lady chicken fry, don't ask her to sign an NDA.

Don't do it. She doesn't like those. Memezy, memesy, memesy. We love hearing your optimism regarding the Jets even in a season filled with strife. Meansy meansy meansy.

And I wanna thank you for being the only 1 here who hasn't talked about jerking off to my wife. It's weird, guys. So meansy meansy meansy, we love you, your wit, and your delivery that is oh, so very dry. Meansy meansy meansy, you will always be part of my takes. Number 1, turtle guy.

Yeah. Love it. That's great, Jerry. That was a good ride home. You're the best, Jerry.

So you're the best.

Me and Big Cat

need to have some discussions offline. So put a pin in it. We'll circle back. You've given us a lot to think about.

Yeah. And, you know, I'll I'll say this, no matter which way we go in terms of the fantasy team, I hope you feel the same way that we've enjoyed our time together. And I I look back at it and think of nothing but positives.

You want me to grab my playbook and go see coach?

No. No. No. No. No.

No. But I just want you to know that there's no hard feelings when it comes to fantasy football.

I gotta thank my friends, Richard and Ryan, who helped me write that poem. They're huge AWLs. The Sony exec? Don't don't say word to word.

It's really, please. Shut up, Richard and Ryan.

We're big fans. I love you guys. Whatever you guys decide to do, I'll be okay with. You know, maybe maybe BFFs has a fantasy team that they want me

to Yeah. Yeah. Not win a championship with. Love it. I got it.

We're results. We're results. Alright. Love you, Jerry. You're the best.

Place. Come on.

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Okay. Let's wrap up the show. Guys on chicks with a wrinkle. Guys on chicks about getting old because this is the last episode you'll be listen to with us in our thirties. Yeah.

It's basically been this show has been basically the entire decade of our thirties.

I've been I've been worried about turning 40 since I turned 30, and then I was so worried when I turned 39 that I feel like now I'm

not I've I'm already there. I, I'm gonna I I definitely like starting to feel it, just, like, physically. I think I have plantar fasciitis, which sucks. Didn't even know. My heel just hurts.

This is all self diagnosed. I'm not gonna see a doctor. I think I'm just gonna get a shitload more tattoos. Yeah. I think that's just kinda how I'm gonna deal with this.

I'm not gonna I don't really have any other outs.

I was actually getting a little sentimental last night because I realized I'm no new a little bit longer, but I met PFT for a birthday party for his 30th birthday.

Yeah. For Yeah.

For 10 years

Yeah. On the dot. Yeah. So it's crazy.

Hounded Mad Dogs. Now we're drinking the Lord.

We've said it on the show before. I have. I know I have, and, obviously, I'm 30 now. But I do remember, like, big cat was going crazy hard for his 30th birthday. I was like, damn.

He's 30. He still got it. Like, he's old. Don't got it anymore. Older than that.

Yeah. Mhmm.

Also very funny because of 21. The first time David PFT met, I think my words I think I said I was like, this is PFT. He's super talented. Like, he does the misspellings and and, like, he's joking how you do misspellings and stuff, but you're serious. He's joking.

And Dave was just like, what? I don't

get it.

I don't get it.

We gotta do it for 50 now too.

What do you mean?

Well, I'm saying now it's, like, 10 every 10 years.

Wait. But what what are we doing for 40? Case race. Oh, yeah. Case race.

Shit. I've been I've been We're taping this right before the case race.

Pretty hungover for the case race since Monday.

Oh, me too. Yes.

Anxiety going into it. I get real bad anxiety when I'm hungover. Very, very bad. Yeah. Crippling now.

I used to be able to yeah. Until I was 34, wake up the next day, feel okay. Now it's like I have that hangover anxiety, but I had it on Monday for getting drunk on Tuesday night.

I'm just happy the whole the whole squad's in it. So Max, Hank, PFT, myself, you can watch the Yac case race on Friday. It'll be out, but we're taping it after we do this. And, yeah, I'm I'm I'm miserable already about just thinking about it. Although, I did find out, I have a steam shower.

Been living in my house for a year and

a half. Just figured this out. That's pretty cool.

Pretty cool. So I'm gonna steam it up tomorrow morning.

I'm gonna hit the sauna. Yeah. It's gonna be great.

I like I pressed the buttons. It's like, does this do anything? And then steam just started coming out of my shower.

I got a question for you guys.

This is the richest shit ever.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Just like there I have this sick feature of my in my house. I

didn't know for a year and a half.

I I got a glory to God.

I got

a worst 1. When when I moved into my house, I my wife was like, do you do you like our house? Like, any complaints? Like, I wish there was another bathroom on the first floor. And she's like, 2 is not enough?

And I was like, where's the second? She's like, you idiot.

I when I moved in, I was like, yeah. What's what's this hole in my wall in the shower for? I just found out last week. You can come through.

It's pretty good. I got a question for

the young kids young kids on the show. So the booth, not you, Hank. You're old. What is over the hill? Is over the hill 40, or is it 50?

Or is it 30 now that the Internet, like, everybody online is under the age of 20?

I thought I was about to go over the hill.

30 was energy shift. 30 was like, I'm old old now. It's it's impossible to even, you know, go through the motions as I did because I've, you know, been going through what feels like the same motion since I was, you know, 18, 19. Once you hit 30, it's like, I I should be doing something else. Like, I'm over the hill.

Yeah. But I I remember when I when I was growing felt like I should. I think 40 was over the hill, and then golf. I thought 50 might have been over the hill. But I think now 40, at least, maybe 30.

I think, because I've thought about this way too much, and it's probably bad.

Having kids change things, though.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure. I'm, like, actually providing and and I have 3 things that are gonna be my future. So it definitely changed my perspective.

But the, I've been thinking about it because I obviously get in my own head where I'm like, you know, someday people are just gonna stop listening to us, but I love doing the show. I wanna do it forever. I think what I've come to grips with is PFT, you can follow me here. I think for the next I think we still got it for about 4 or 5 years. Then I think it's gonna be a tough couple years where people just shit on us.

And then I think in our late forties, we're gonna get funny again by saying stupid shit and forgetting it and people like, but, man, they're so funny because they're so old and dumb.

We're a speed run the Lee Corso are. Yeah. Right. Right. I think

that will be our late forties. And, also, I get in my own head. Like, we obviously have listeners of all ages, and I appreciate all of them. But it it is crazy to think about, like, we've been doing this for so long. Like, people have just gotten older with us.

I think 1 thing that we forget sometimes is when we started doing the show, it wasn't just, people that were younger than us that listen.

Yeah. Right.

There's a

lot of people that are older

than us. All like, if you were 25 when you started listening to this, you're 34 now. Yeah.

You know

what I mean? Like, that's that's a little comforting, but, like, people have grown up with us.

I just like the idea of a 70 year old out there when we turned 45 listening and be like, these guys are so out of touch.

Yeah. I still feel young. I just 40 is definitely it's more the fact that I don't think I'm going to live much past 70, 75. So I'm past halfway.

Mhmm. That's, I guess, what

That's what's That's

what over the hill means.

That's what's fucking me up.

Yeah.

Where it's like, I do the math, and I'm like, oh, I'm on the I'm on the 11th hole. Can somebody That's where that's where I'm getting a little fucked up.

Can someone explain to me? Give me something to look for. What sort what are some things that you get better at after you turn 40?

I think I think the number 1 thing is giving less of a fuck. That's the number 1 thing with age that is so much better where it's like,

I don't dressing better.

But it's like, I don't care. Yeah. I got kids. I gotta I got a good life. I don't give a fuck.

Playing bingo?

Okay. That's a good 1. Thanks, Max.

We're gonna go.

Wait. Wait.

What'd you say, memes? Don't you guys have to get your, finger up your ass now? Yeah. Memes actually,

like, is rooting for us to die. It's it's crazy.

No. I

think he is. I think

that yeah. The prostate check.

Yeah. I think they got technology down now where they can just do, like, a laser. They're sick of laser up your ass? I no. I think they just shoot a laser at your body, and they're like, you're good or you're bad.

I also told you that the 9 is worse than the actual like, turning 29, turning

39 Yeah. That's what I'm saying.

Than the actual

Well, if it's anything

like turning 30, turning 30, I was scared about. And then as soon as I was 30 or 31, I was like, I'm young again. Again because everyone is is in their late thirties, and I'm in my early thirties.

Since I've turned 30 or since I've turned 29, I've just been like, oh, I'm 30. Yeah. But, like, once I was 28, I was like, oh, yeah. I'm in my twenties. Mhmm.

But then once you turn 20 9, it's like, oh, yeah. I've been in this mindset for a year.

Yep. Yeah. Yep.

It hits, and you're like, it's exactly the same.

But we're gonna yeah. I think we're gonna I think it's gonna suck for, like, a week, and then we're just like, you know what? Fuck it. And, also, you can you can just be like, I can't go out. I I'm not going out tonight.

I'm not getting drunk. I'm I'm 40. I'm old. Yeah. I still feel like I'm, like we're gonna get a young we're gonna need a young buck.

I was thinking maybe I I know I said 16 or 17 on Sunday's show. I'm thinking more like 13. Is he adopt a child? Some laws.

Let's adopt a child for How

about some 13 year old takes?

Alright. Is being a football fan better when you get older, or was it better when you were younger? Obviously, you have gambling now, but you had so much time to potentially win a Super Bowl as a kid. Is the your team winning a Super Bowl window the male equivalent of a woman going through menopause or her eggs drying up. Help me out here.

I just turned 27.

I think 7 is the perfect age, by the way. Yeah. I think we talked about

this once before.

27 is

the best age. Kid, if you're, like, 10 years old winning titles, it's like, that's the center. That's all you care about. Like, Hank, you were saying that when you were a kid, all you cared about was baseball. Right?

That's gotta be sweet if you're a kid. If you're, like, in your twenties, you can party. You can celebrate. You can, like, quit your job, essentially, if your team wins a Super Bowl because you're like, I'd kinda like to just get drunk for a month and celebrate. In your thirties, I don't think it would be as fun.

I think the kids thing then comes back in.

Yep.

Where, like, if you can if you have kids and you can share it with them, that's cool too.

Someone who won a dynasty as a kid and a dynasty as an adult, I would

I would

I would have to say the adult 1 was

You were on Cho'Mazula's duck boat. Yeah.

Well, no. I'm just talking strictly dynasty.

Yeah. I know. That was

pretty cool.

You've got 2 you're in different dynasty areas.

Yeah. I was speaking about the best friends of Cho'Mazula.

That was baseball. The Red Sox had greatest comeback

in in history.

All this shit. You gotta win a Super Bowl this year.

That was

fun too. Gotta win a Super Bowl.

It's a tough question.

I I also think that if you're, like, 95, then it becomes great again.

And you see my team win news story on

you. Yeah.

And then Yeah.

Then you cry.

Yeah. Max, you gotta win a Super Bowl.

High school senior. End of end of senior year. Bruins won a Stanley Cup. Unforgettable. Love the Bruins.

Max, what's gonna change about you if you win a Super Bowl

this year? You're not winning.

I'll be a winner.

Yeah. Like, are you gonna like, we won't be able to to make fun of you the same way.

I know it'll be great. It'll be awesome. It'll be the best, but it's not gonna happen.

God.

It's just it it it it's just the same.

I'm so I just wanna flash forward to Sunday.

If I get another I can't get another second place.

Are you gonna let Hank just dump on you like this? Hank's got a

future on the birds.

He's a bird's guy.

It's a it's a it's a it's a it's a donation.

It was a 1 and a half point spread. That's what I just keep telling myself.

Then cash out, Hank.

It's a 1 and a half point spread. Cash

out, man. Cheese.

No. Fuck that.

Okay.

I want the birds, but I just know like, I just know.

Max, I know you've daydreamed about what's gonna happen after the Super Bowl if you win and how happy you're gonna be. Have you have you thought about the place you would be at if you lose?

Yeah. I'm very familiar with that place. That's the thing. Mhmm. It's not like it's gonna be some something that I can't imagine.

I'm I'm there I'm there, like, every 18 months.

Mhmm.

So, yes, I I have thought about it, and I know exactly what it's gonna feel like, and it's not gonna be good. Mhmm. Okay.

Why is it that as I get older and get into my first real job working around adults, they care more about what I do with my outside life than when I was in college. Yeah. I thought as you get older, people care less about drama and petty things, but it's a total opposite.

No. It's vicarious.

Well, yeah, the less you go out and have a social life, then you just spend your time talking about other people.

Yeah. And they also get to lie about what they used to do when they were younger. So they hear you be like, oh, yeah. I went out and I partied on Friday night. They're like, yeah.

I used to, you know, start Friday night in Sunday night, sometimes some beers Monday morning going into work. They like to just exaggerate how how much action they had when they were your age.

Stanford, Steven, Russell had a very funny, conversation about this, about how they would, like, go for the show when they were doing with SVP, and SVP would always, like, go back to the hotel, and they would go out. And then SVP the next day would just be, like, tell me everything that happened. And I remember listening to that and being like, oh, man. And I'm that guy. I'm the go to the hotel and then just be, like, give me all

the details.

Care, though. I'll I'll get you that. Much.

You're not you're not nosy or, like

No.

I just wanna go to bed Yeah.

More than anything. Gossipy.

No. Because it's like, I also can't keep track of anything. I always find out the gossip in the office. Absolutely the last person. Like, the last person.

I'm pretty sure the cleaning ladies find out the gossip before me.

At what age did you realize that you couldn't physically do the things you could do in your athletic prime? Because it feels like every time I throw a ball on of any kind, I'm on the verge of throwing my arm out. I'm just I'm, like, approaching my athletic

prime. Are you? Yeah.

I thought your athletic prime was, like, 27. Maybe yours.

I don't think it's like Yeah. There's nothing I mean, obviously, there's a lot of shit I can't do. Well, when I when I do throw yeah. That that's definitely 1 where it's like if you throw, like, we had a mound out there for opening day last year, and I threw as hard as I could, like, 4 times, and I thought my arm was gonna fall off. I think for me, it's more I notice it when we play pickup hoops on Friday, and I just stand at the 3 point line.

I'm just like, I don't really wanna go down low and get elbowed and bang around. That's a big 1.

I think this is more frontal lobe or whatever it's called, but the skiing for me like, I used to like skiing, but I when I was a kid and younger and young adult, I I had a very I have a very reckless ski style where I just bombed down the hill, not a great stopper, and it was always, like, just go straight, and, eventually, you'll get a you know, you'll slow down. But speed was never a concern. Now when I even think about skiing, I'm like, like, I don't I don't wanna do that. Yeah. But I know how I ski and how I've, like, always skied.

Yeah.

It's like you can't you can't be scared if you're gonna do it like that.

Here's the big 1. The big part of getting old I've noticed for athletic stuff is you're just way more conscious of getting injured. Yeah. And you're scared yeah. That's what you're explaining right now.

Like, I am so scared of getting injured because an injury at 40 versus an injury at 25 is so vastly different.

Yeah. So it's at this age, you collect injuries. So if you get injured, that's gonna be something that you deal with for pretty much the rest of your life

Yeah.

Where you you break a leg, and you're like, well, now my leg is never gonna work the same ever. Whereas if you get injured when you're 25, yeah, give me give me a month. I'll be back.

I still hold out hope that someday I'm just gonna when I'm, like, not working as much, maybe, like, start doing yoga and just get, like Mhmm. Just really flexible.

Yoga's fucking impossible.

Yeah.

So the real answer to that

stretch lab place if you got it.

Yeah.

Yeah. Wait. Where they just stretch you?

Yeah. Yeah. My real answer to that question, though, was when when I first had my, back injury.

Yeah.

When your back hurts for the first time, that's when you know way past your

athletic prime. Kiddie Stones too. Yeah. Kiddie Stones too. Old guy thing.

Yeah. When I was doing the the kicking thing at the the barstool bowl, and all I had to do was make a 35 yard field goal and I was training for it, I was kicking, like, 36 yards, and 2 years ago, I was kicking 45 yards. At that point, I was like, it's never coming back.

Also, I'll say it. Just standing up for a really long time is just, like, I I wanna sit.

I took 40,000 steps during the dart stream. That was 1 thing I didn't mention.

Wow. Thanks for mentioning it.

Beast. Mhmm. Also, almost threw my arm out. So Yeah. I guess that's, like, a sign too.

Yeah. Maybe athletic peak.

What about the comments from the people calling you a pussy for saying that your arm hurt after throwing darts for 10 hours?

Throw darts for 10 hours. Tell me how your arm feels. And then if you still feel like I'm a pussy, I will accept it. I'm gonna Until then Mhmm.

I'm gonna defend the chat in this in this case just that every time I watch someone else do something hard, I'm like, that's so

easy. Yeah.

Do you hear your brain just says that? Like, if someone does, like, an eating challenge, I'm like, I could fucking do that. And when you're sitting and watching start.

Yeah. Like, if you sit and watch someone for 2 hours, not you're you do nothing. But if you're standing and doing something for 2 hours, like, it it takes a toll on.

Like, when Jerry did it tired. When Jerry did his first hole in 1 stream, I was like, how is he so sore? Swing a club 2,000 times and find out. But in your head, you're just like, this looks so easy.

Hey, big cat, TFT, Hank, in America's team, Max. Someone who recently graduated college, how do I figure out what will be my career? When will I know? Also, how come as soon as I finish college, hangovers instantly became so much worse? Thanks for all that you guys do.

I'd love to throw my hat in the ring for your next intern.

Looks like he wants a career. Yeah. Get ready,

buddy, because the hangovers are gonna get

way too far. 5 years ago before you entered college.

Yeah.

I mean, that I think that's a very personal question depending on who you are. Like, how will you know when your your job is the 1 that you want? I think if you just if you enjoy it, if you truly like it, if you like thinking about it when you're not working there, that's that's probably a pretty good sign.

Yeah. My only advice for someone like that is, you have, more time to figure it out than you think. Because I think there's a lot of pressure always when you graduate college, especially because there's gonna be a couple of your friends that go right into some high paying job or or crushing it, and you're like, fuck. I'm behind. You can you can switch jobs and find try something new and and do different things.

You have you have you have time to fuck up. Yeah. And and and not, like, fuck up, fuck up, but, like, you have time to do something for a couple years and be like, you know what? This isn't for me. Yeah.

You might have to take a step back, but that's where the time comes in. Like, taking a step back when you're in your twenties is not as hard as taking a step back when you're in thirties or forties and you have kids and a family and and a house and all that shit.

Yeah. Don't think because you're 25 years old that you have to be on the path for the rest of your life.

Pretty much you don't have to worry about it till you have kids because then you have to think about them more than you think about yourself.

Yeah. Would Robert De Niro say in heat, never gets so attached to something that you can't walk away from in 30 seconds or less? That's how you should feel about your job until you're, like, 27.

Yeah. And Robert De Niro, look at him. He's still having kids.

Yeah. And she had

a great ass.

Okay. Why is it so far away

From the stream yesterday. Ah,

k. I got it. No. No. I got it.

He can still he can still do this, Hank. I got it. Yeah. You're trying to fucking That was the old

man. Yeah. Let me get that for you, sir.

Alright. Numbers. 3.

11.

99 poke. 40. 92. What'd you guess last time, Matt Memes? 3.

No. No. You guessed something else. No.

I guessed 3.

Was it 11? Who guessed 11?

I always guess 11.

59 for the Super Bowl.

44. Take your time. Come on. How's it going?

54. Fuck that.

Love you guys.

Is that the Super Bowl you won, Max?

No. What was that? I think they paid for 24.

Oh. Love you guys.