Transcript of Ryan Fitzpatrick Talking Conference Championships, Stavros Halkios And The Ravens Loss, Ohio State Wins The Natty, Bears Get Ben Johnson And Tensions Are Mounting

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National champions.

Yeah. The national champions, and Ryan Day has, saved face. And they even though the scoreboard looks a little closer, they dominated most of that game, let Notre Dame back in, but Ohio State has done it. $20,000,000 roster, incredible team, 1 blemish on the record. Otherwise, they, you know, kick the shit.

I mean, they kick the shit out of everyone in the playoffs. Texas was a was a closer game to

blemishes. Right?

Yeah. Well, yeah, the Oregon game by 1 Yeah. In in Austin, and then they avenged it by a lot.

By a ton.

That 1 doesn't really count as much. But, yeah. Ohio State was an awesome team, and they played awesome football down the stretch. And, the new 12 team playoff, we finally have our 1st national champion from it.

So let's look at the rest of the top 25 that just came out.

Okay.

Number 2, Notre Dame. Okay. Beat them. Number 3, Oregon. Wamped them.

Yep. Number 4, Texas. Beat slash wamped them.

I don't I'm Wamped them as a wamped. Wamped if you look at

the final score, beat if you watch the game.

If you watch the game, it was Texas had a chance to tie it very with 2 minutes left.

Yeah. Penn State. Beat them. Beat slash Wampum. Beat them.

They beat them by 7. They beat a lot of really good teams.

Yeah.

And they had a very tough path to go through this playoff. You can't point to Ohio State and say anything about Asterisk, Mickey Mouse, whatever. They were the best team in this playoff.

Yeah.

Best team they got they do have that big expensive roster. But to their credit, most of those guys most of the money from the roster is going to guys that stayed around. Yeah.

So I

was like, hey. Come back to OSU instead of trying to declare for the draft. We'll pay you some money while you're here. They did make a big addition at safety, obviously. But it's a, yeah, it's a team that's been there for a long time.

And credit to them. That what a what a crazy season Ohio State had.

Yeah. I mean, if you if you had asked anyone at the end of November, like, is this team gonna go on a run and do what they did in the playoff? I obviously, it was there somewhere deep down, but you also were like, they're on the ropes because what happened against Michigan was insane. But, man, they that 4 game stretch that they went through there, they were so good and, they're just a really, really, really good football team. Ryan Day proved the haters wrong in the fact that he can win a national title.

Will Howard, happy for Will Howard because I know that I've I've not been the number 1 Will Howard rider. I I think he's a good quarterback. I didn't know if he was a great quarterback. He was playing great. I mean, that that play at the end where Ohio State the Q4, I think we all watched it.

We you know, the first 3 quarters are like, Notre Dame shouldn't be on the field with Ohio State. Notre Dame gets a fumble, goes and scores. They get back in the game. They're fighting, which they deserve a ton of credit for. And then Ohio State has the ball up 8 at the end of the game, and it looked like they were kinda turtling a little bit running the you know, just Will Howard right into the line and hoping to punt and and be okay.

It was like, give the ball to Will Howard. Don't even let him pitch the ball. Don't let him hand the ball off. Don't let him throw the ball. Don't even let him get tackled.

Just give the ball snap the ball to Will Howard, have him run to the right, and fall down.

Yeah. And then they call up the play, the 50 yard pass of Jeremiah Smith that was, gutsy, ballsy, and Chip Kelly Chip Kelly was in his bag. That that that first touchdown, Jeremiah Smith is 1 of the coolest plays where he had the whole side of the field completely wide open in a short yardage situation. I think it was on, like, the 10 yard line.

It's But, yeah, that was

a ballsy that was a ballsy gutsy call, and Ryan Day proved that he's not gonna piss down his legs, and he's a national champion forever.

That that call to Jeremiah Smith was the same call, kind of, as they they did, I think, to Tony in the Super Bowl

Mhmm.

Where you move

your guy in motion, have him fake like he's gonna run or reverse or jet sweep or something like that. Send him back out, and he's gonna be a step ahead in a short yard situation. Getting the ball, it works all the time.

Well, it's a great call, but it's also a testament to Jeremiah Smith and how insanely athletic he is. Because if you watch that play and how he's able to stop on a dime, no 1 else has that stop and start that he does. Mhmm. So even if you play it perfectly and you're tracking him, you're still gonna lose on that play. And then And, yeah, he's he's an incredible talent.

And then when Notre Dame was tracking him across the field, he goes in motion, and there's 2 guys that are like, oh, fuck. He's in motion. I gotta start running as fast as I can, And then, boom, left it wide open. On that last that last series of the game for Ohio State, when they're going down the field and they're they're doing the conservative shit with with Will Howard, just give him the ball. Do you think that Chip Kelly decided to do that to set up the deep shot?

He's like, make them think that we're getting conservative, and then that's going to open it up.

No. I just assumed that deep shot was probably an option play for Will Howard where it was like, hey. Get to the line. If if Jeremiah Smith is 1 on 1 on the outside with no safety help, that's where you should go. If he if if they're playing something else, they're playing zone or something else, then probably just run it again into the line, and we'll hope our defense can get a stop.

That's what I thought last night. Then I woke up this morning, and I thought to myself, did Chip Kelly just fake out all of America? Because we all bought into the narrative of Ohio State getting too conservative and just kinda pissing away the game at the very end. He might have just fooled everybody and said, we're gonna make you think that we're doing that. Yeah.

And then bomb it deep. The, the very first drive of the game for Notre Dame, Did you think it was gonna be a game after that?

I thought it was a perfect start because it was a 10 minute touchdown drive. I did not think that it was sustainable for Riley Leonard to carry the ball 9 times on a 10 10 minute drive and get the absolute shit kicked out of him time and time again.

Yeah.

But I'd like, if you ask if you ask Notre Dame fan, what's the perfect obviously, maybe not Riley Leonard getting 9 carries, but what's the perfect drive to start? It's 10 minutes, bully ball, completely erase the Q1 and score a touchdown.

They did. They erased the Q1. Yeah. But then Ohio State gets the ball and they score in, like, 3 minutes.

Right.

And then you're like, what was all that work for?

Yeah. Right. So, I mean, Ohio State was just a better team, and and and I thought I said going into it, I was like, if Notre Dame can be plus 2 or 3 on the turnovers, they will have a shot. I think they were plus 1. So they needed a couple more of those.

They they really couldn't it was a bad it was a bad fit for Notre Dame and the fact that they play man coverage a lot, and that's what Ohio State just absolutely eats alive. And they were trying to switch to zone, and it's just like they didn't really feel like they had, the answers to all the problems that Ohio State's offense was throwing at them. And Ohio State's defense is elite. I mean, Jeremiah Love was, what do you have, 4 carries? Yeah.

Like, he I mean, he they they're just an elite elite defense top to bottom, and they're

They were never able to really run the ball. Yeah. Outside outside of that first drive where they went, like, all gas, no brakes. That doesn't mean that you can't steer. Right.

And they didn't. They just were gonna crash into everybody, and that Jeremiah Love was just not part of the game at all.

Yeah. Yeah. So and and Notre Dame like I said, Notre Dame deserves credit for fighting because I think we all were in the same boat. Like, this sucks as a dud. They did put a a little bit now did he get hurt?

Because he had 44 rushes for 3 yards. He might have gotten hurt.

I bet on him. I was monitoring him very closely. I don't know if he got hurt or not.

Riley Leonard had 17 rushes, but credit to Notre Dame for making it a game there, at the end where it was like, you had to at least be paying attention when they cut it to, 8 now or sorry. They cut it to 5, and then and then they the Ohio State kicked the field goal. Our guy, Marcus Freeman, who we like, great coach, incredible run. I do think Notre Dame's future is very bright, and they'll be back, in this spot. They've got, you know, a good quarterback coming in, all these things.

I don't know what he was doing with that field goal kick. I was shocked. So for people who didn't watch the game, I'm assuming everyone watched the game. Notre Dame was down 16 with 9 minutes left on the 9 yard line, and he brought out the field goal unit, missed the field goal because they rushed him out, but trying to make a 2 score game, a 2 score game. And there were some people who were like, oh, well, now Notre Dame could win with 2 touchdowns if they hit this field goal.

It still didn't make sense because you were saying you needed with 9 minutes left, you needed 2 full touchdown drives and 2 stops of Ohio State. I would always take, trying to get 9 yards over that.

Yeah.

And they're like, well, what about the 2 point conversion? I still like, you have to play if if you kick that attempt that field goal, you have to play a perfect end of the game to have everything go your way to have a chance to even win that game.

I'm gonna play devil's advocate for Notre Dame. Would it be Jesus Christ's advocate Yeah. For Notre Dame? I'm advocate for

Notre Dame. Would it be Jesus Christ's advocate Yeah.

For Notre Dame? Did you see the plays that they were calling and how effective they were earlier in that situation?

Yeah. I I they still don't

It looked I I'm playing devil's advocate real quick. They didn't even sniff the end zone. Yeah. They were getting overpowered. It didn't look like they had a hope on 4th down of scoring a touch.

It would basically be throw the ball up, hope that somehow a miracle happens, you come down with it. It was not although their their 2 point plays were really good, this was you know, would have been a 9 yard touchdown, but they didn't look like they were in rhythm at all to score a touchdown on that. So Marcus Freeman was probably just like, yeah. You know what? Screw it.

Let's just take some points here. But then in that situation, you have to still go down the field twice. Right. Score touches.

And get 2 stops.

I I hated the field goal call. I thought it was bad, but I thought that probably had something to do with it. If they had if they were close on 1 of their previous plays, if they looked like they ran a play that worked out anywhere, you know, near what they had practiced, they probably would have been like, yeah. Okay. Let's take a shot at the end zone.

But it was just it was a bad series.

Yeah. We gotta talk math with him. It's just 2 score game to a 2 score game. I don't know. You just you got a chance there.

I still would let rather to figure out your best play. And if you don't get it, okay, but at least you you went out on your sword. Mhmm. Bring out the field goal kicker and rushing him out and having him miss the kick was just the worst possible scenario. Yeah.

It was karma.

Yeah.

And then I saw people posting the the stats of whether or not you should go for it. Yeah. It was karma. So And it was a toss-up. But I'm pretty sure that on those toss ups, they don't take into account the 2 point conversion too.

Yeah. Like, obviously, if you're down by 16, then it's not the same as being down by 14

in that model. National championship.

It's a national championship.

Yeah. I think you gotta you gotta go for it.

You gotta go for it.

You gotta be aggressive.

You gotta just go I mean, again, you just and what ended up happening was Ohio State, you know, ended up getting another field goal to make it, a 2 score game again. But it's just like I don't know. You just gotta go for it there. You gotta I know it sucks. I know your offense had no real answers, but you gotta go for it.

And I, Ohio State yeah. I mean, the incredible season. Ryan Day, is he gonna get a contract extension? I was

gonna ask you, do you think Ryan Day's job is safe?

I would say it's safe. Yeah. Probably. But how do we think Ohio State fans like, this is 1 of those things where your national champions, and it's awesome. But it's still gotta probably bother you that Michigan fans are like, but you couldn't beat us.

That's the thing. Like, I've listened to a lot of sports talk today. And every single time I've been hearing somebody talk about Ohio State, when they bring it up within 2 sentences, the word Michigan is used. Right. And that's it's not an asterisk.

You guys won the national championship. Ohio State was the best team in college football. I don't think that you can argue that. They were the best. They proved it through a tournament.

They beat all the other top ranked teams in the tournament. Crazy route that they took. But people are always gonna say Michigan after they talk about this title. And you have to just embrace that if you're Ohio State and say, yeah. We we experienced the lowest low that you could possibly have for our team during a season, and then we responded and we're better than everybody in the country.

And they might not win the national title if they don't lose to Michigan. Like, there's a world where that might have galvanized them and refocused them, and they they did change, you know, how they ran the ball, some of their play calling, you know, letting letting Will Howard, you know, throw a deep to Jeremiah Smith more. So there there is that world that, like, that was actually the thing that pushed them to win a national title. They probably would've won it anyway, but it also hurts because, the what you know, Ryan Day, Urban Meyer, and then Woody Hayes. Woody Hayes, the most famous probably in football lore of all the Ohio State coaches, has a famous quote, you can't claim a national championship without winning the game.

The only meaningful statistic is the number of times you beat Michigan.

That's probably because it had never happened before.

Well, and, also, it was a different world where you literally would just claim national titles. Yeah. It's ours. Yeah. And you technically, like, you probably can't because if you have 1 loss, you can't claim a national title.

So what we're saying It's

a different world.

And Woody Hayes, he cosigns on this, codational champions, Michigan and Ohio State.

Michigan and Ohio State.

What this has really done is this is just the ultimate build up to that game next year.

Oh my god.

It's gonna be incredible. I can't wait.

And that's Big 10 is kinda where football lies now, 2 in a row, and it's I mean, I know there's the theory that now that the, schools in in the north can start paying everyone over the table, it's it it it makes it a little bit different than what was happening in the SEC. But if you're an SEC fan, you gotta be like, shit. And it's very cool. It's cool for sports just in general that Michigan went out, had a 15 and o season, and then that game happened where Michigan beats Ohio State and Ohio State. Like, both of the premier programs in the big 10 just put their nuts on the table and went back to back titles.

It is it is kinda crazy. Yeah. It's good for football.

Great for

You know what's not good for football was having that game last night.

Yeah.

That was bad.

Yeah. No. It should be it should be January 10th should be the latest they play the national championship.

We didn't we didn't feel like it was even college football season anymore at that point. It was like, oh, yeah. The most important game of all is tonight. We forgot.

Yeah. You can't have it. You can't have 4 NFL teams left and still not have a national title, champion for college football. It just feels weird. It feels off It's stupid.

It was cool seeing those 2 schools on the field, though, for a national title.

Yeah. And credit to Ohio State. They were, they were an incredible, incredible team. And, at their best, they're up there. Like, I think they could take anyone.

But in Ryan Day, I'm happy that he can still live, without, like, having his house be teepeed and people calling and and harassing him. He's got a little bit back. Although there's probably gonna be some crazy Ohio State fans who are like, that wasn't enough.

Maybe just order pizza to his house.

If he loses to imagine if he does this again next year. If he loses to Michigan then wins another national title. That's just his thing.

I saw people having the debate, like, how many losses in a row would you take to Michigan for 1 national title? What what's the math on that? But that that's more interesting. Like, how many national titles in a row would you want to win losing to Michigan every year? Because if you're Ohio State this year, you're like, fuck, yeah.

I'll take that deal. You're the national champions. If it happens again next year, then you're like, okay. Yeah. Pretty cool back to back.

But then if it's ever I think maybe by 3, you're like, I would just like to beat Michigan.

Yeah. I brought this up after they lost to Michigan, and you guys both told me if you gave them that deal, they'd all say no. Be

I mean, the the what? To lose to Michigan every year?

You said you said they'd you say, fuck. Yeah. I take that deal. You lose to Michigan, win the national title. After they lost to I don't and I was like, if they win the national title, does not matter?

Like, no. It it doesn't matter because they lost to Michigan.

I think it's yeah. I think it's still

So, like, I'm saying before the season, if you had given them that that deal, they would have said no.

I think there's some Ohio State fans that would be like, we we we wanna beat Michigan.

I think after that Michigan game

No. But before the season. Yeah. You said you're gonna lose to Michigan but win the national title.

I think there's some Ohio State lost

to Michigan. You guys both told me that they would have said, we will not take that deal. We have to beat Michigan.

Yeah. I I'd also like to say What do

you think it is now, though, now that they've actually won the title?

I think they gotta beat Michigan next year.

I I think I was wrong right after to say that you would not take the deal. I think that after the fact, it felt so low for them. But the way that it's it's played out and the way that they, like, battled back from that, I've changed my mind. I think that Ohio State fans are, like, just as proud of this season as they are of of a lot of their others where they do beat Michigan. I do.

I think I was wrong about that. Hand up. But that doesn't mean that there isn't a shitload of ammunition for people out there to fire back whenever you talk about it. That's gonna that's gonna be the story of this this championship for, like, the rest of your lives when you say, yeah. We won this game.

We won the national title. There will be somebody that says, yeah. But you lost to Michigan.

Yeah. Yeah. And I I I think that rivalry matters to such an insane point to those fans that as awesome as the national title was, and it's awesome, there's just a small part of them like, damn. That Michigan game really did suck. And that that we know that, like, in the workings of the rivalry, if you know Michigan fans, if you work with Michigan fans, you have friends of Michigan fan, like, they'll always just bring it up.

And they always kinda got that on you. Because that's just how college football now you could say that this is also probably what PFT was saying, like, probably an overreaction to that game. It also is an overreaction to the the way the new 12 team playoff works. Because in in all years past, in the 100 plus years of that rivalry, if Ohio State loses that game, they don't have a chance to win a national title. This was literally the 1st year where this possibly could happen.

That's what I was saying with Woody Hayes. It's like he said that because Like, you it couldn't happen.

Yeah. They chose yeah. They yeah. You can't claim it. So this is the new normal a little bit, which I'll I'll hand up.

I've seen people argue this point when they argue against the 12 team playoff that some of the rivalries games can maybe have a little bit of a diminished meaning because of that. That does suck a little bit, that you can go and lose to your rival and then still go win a national title like that. That has never happened in college. Like, I was thinking about the the kick 6. Yeah.

Alabama would have probably won won a national title. Mhmm. So Start of that game would have meant nothing.

Now the the loss to Michigan truly the start of the championship DVD.

Yeah. Yeah. But it was it was a great football season, college football season. Gotta do it earlier, though.

How good does that Indiana loss to Ohio State look now?

Yeah. Well, they lost by a decent amount. Yeah. Yeah. Signetti.

Signetti. And he, yeah, he only lost by 10 to Notre Dame. Yeah. He kicks people's asses. Yeah.

Okay. Any other last college football thoughts? Penn State next year, Max?

Penn State should be good next year.

No. I'm just saying you went Michigan

Yeah.

Ohio State.

I was just I was looking at, the best part of when a college season ends, you got

to look at the way too early top 25 for the next year.

Mhmm. And then number 3.

Penn State number 3. Who's 1? Ohio State?

Ohio State. Number 2?

Texas. Okay. Yeah. Makes sense. Give us the top 10.

Notre Dame number 4.

K.

Georgia number 5.

Yeah.

Oregon 6.

Yeah.

Clemson 7.

Yeah.

LSU 8. Mhmm. BYU 9. Mhmm. And South Carolina 10.

I think you could just

According to ESPN.

Yeah. You could have pulled that out of your ass, like, at any point in the last 4 years and just put those teams.

South Carolina's a little

bit of a wild card. Yeah. You gotta have a like, BYU. Yeah. Mix it up a little bit.

LSU, I'm sure that'll end well.

Congrats to Ohio State, though. Okay. What else we got? Any coach hirings? Hirings?

Well, there was also the tragic golf cart accident in Oh, yeah. In the tunnel afterwards when that lady was driving Ryan Day. Who else was in that golf cart?

I think Will Howard was in there.

Will Howard was in there, and the lady, she just drives directly into the wall.

Couldn't see couldn't see the wall. Came out of nowhere.

Yeah. Exactly. It wasn't painted yellow or anything. It was a hazard. She drove directly into it.

She was probably a Georgia alumni. Yeah. But, yeah, it was a very, very funny watch her steer.

Bang. She just didn't see the wall. Ohio State coaches and golf carts. Name a better duo. Always works.

Yeah. That's that's true.

Drove it in so bad, you couldn't even reverse it.

That's Yeah.

That's when you really felt like it was Yeah. The cops had to come, and they just started walking. They're like, alright. Never mind. We're out of here.

It does rock to be able to just ride around golf course. That's that's my dream.

I don't know. You you

want her to release a statement?

I would.

Like, how did she even think?

For the record, Hank wants to know, so make sure to follow her on Instagram, Hank. What is her Instagram? Because Hank would like to follow her for the statement. Yeah. Link me up.

Link them up. I'll do some journalism. Okay. What what else you got? Anything else?

Some coaching hires. Oh, really? Who got hired?

You said the Jets oh, it's 3 o'clock.

Yeah. It's 3 o'clock. Yeah. After 3

AM.

It's after 3. Congratulations, big cat. On what? Ben Johnson.

I'm staying a 6 out of 10.

That's that's a lot.

Yeah. Such a lot. That's the first thing I when so big cat's not a 6 out of 10 because I was in the gambling cave, and, the first thing big cat says to me is, like, the Bears just got Ben Johnson. He big cat is

all the way back. No. I'm 6 out of 10. I don't blame him.

He's a

There's still a lot work to be done.

This is the move that you have to this is what I was talking about with Mike McCarthy versus Ben Johnson.

With Mike McCarthy wrong again.

Yeah. Very wrong.

Mike McCarthy, safe hire, probably gets you to the playoffs, probably have you guys win a couple games. Ben Johnson is a guy that can turn Caleb Williams into a superstar quarterback.

Here's okay. I'm not gonna because people are gonna want me to get ahead of myself. I'm not gonna get ahead of myself. This is what I I'm very, very happy. I'm a 6 out of 10 happy, which is as high as my happiness meter can go.

Ben Johnson picking the bears, and the bears paying the money that they're going to pay Ben Johnson is a significant shift in everything the bears usually do. And that's you know, they don't they don't usually pay a coach. I think the report was 14,000,000, which is for a first time head coach is insane. Ben Johnson was the hottest ticket in the last 2 year 2 coaching hiring, cycles. He was the guy who was hand selecting which interviews he won.

The the Jaguars, the Raiders, I know the Jets probably want him. He didn't do an interview with them. Like, all these teams wanted Ben Johnson. He picked the Bears, which makes me think that he thinks Caleb Williams is special, which makes me very happy. And for all the shit I give George McCaskey and the McCaskey family and and the Bears ownership, they they they went and got the number 1 guy on the market who and they paid him top dollar, and that's very anti bears.

So I'm 6 out of 10 happy. A lot of work to be done. Gotta get an offensive line. Gotta get more defensive line. Gotta get Caleb Wright.

But I believe in Ben Johnson, and I'm very happy.

I heard 1 suggestion. Memes heard the same thing on on the radio this morning. Draft Ashton Gentry in the first round. What do you think about that?

I've seen that as well. I the Bears need a lot of help everywhere. So if they wanna do Ashton Gentry and he wants to and we wanna get freaky with it, I trust in Ben Johnson, and I'm back trusting in Ryan Pohlz as well because I thought I did not think that the Bears were gonna be able to get Ben Johnson. I thought that they had screwed it up. I thought no 1 would pick the Bears.

Ben Johnson, I I saw a report Ben Johnson wanted the bears job last year, but he agreed to stay for 1 last year with Dan Campbell to finish this thing out. And that's why the bears ended up keeping Eberfus because they're like, we don't wanna fire him now and lose out on Ben Johnson next year. This also might just be a fan fiction thing in my head that I've made up.

I was gonna suggest maybe maybe it might be.

But a 6 out of 10, I remain.

He was like he had his eye on this is his dream job.

The the bears have a lot of work to do, and Ben Johnson isn't gonna be able to fix everything. But it was it's I'm as I'm saying it's 6 out of 10. That's what

I was

You know

what's crazy?

I was gonna say something else, but I'm saying it's 6 out of 10.

You know what's crazy is you're older than Ben Johnson.

Yeah. Ben I mean, that's a lot of coaches now. Yeah. You are too, buddy. We're older than, like, every coach here.

Yeah. It's getting bad. Scary hours. Not me. Just wait.

Close. How old's Ben Johnson? He is 38. Okay. We're about to be 40.

Is it does that count as boy genius? Could be. Is Ben Johnson a boy genius?

He might be. I think he is.

I think for NFL coaches under 40 years. Yeah. He's boy genius.

Boy genius.

You have your own boy genius.

Boy genius.

And he must love Caleb if he's if he's signing up to coach against the Lions twice a year, coach against Kevin O'Connell twice a year.

The Alliance fans are very upset. Coach against

the Lions

twice a year.

He was gonna leave anyway. I know it's a a divisional guy, but or divisional rival, but he was gonna leave anyway. Have you had reason you lost

the game, though, basically being a crazy play called by it. Like, that that makes it sting that much worse.

Yeah.

Yeah. It's like

Well, no.

That's not why they lost the game.

It's like he trashed

if you're a Lions fan, Kopein. Like, you Yeah. Like, that that was the defining play of the game.

Yeah. You you you had a really nice house with him. He threw a party, trashed the house, and left.

Yeah. I'm I'm very 6 out of 10. I mean, 6 out of 10 as you could get. Would you guys agree memes has been policing me?

I mean, earlier, you said I'm a 6 out of

10 because I have to be a 6 out of 10. If you took the restrictor plate off, are you asking what I'd be?

Yes. I'm willing to get I'm willing

to let you say say your No. Because I don't want you to you should. No. No. No.

Are you willing to? I'm willing to I'm willing to

Be be upfront. Like, be honest with our listeners.

Because the takeaway right now is big cat grades the coaching hire a 6 out of 10.

And No. That's that's not how I grade

the coaching higher.

Don't let

the pass That's not how I you're no. What's my I'm saying that's what that's not I said my happiness is what 6 out of 10

is gonna be.

Big cat

is a 6 out

of 10. I'm saying 6 out of 10.

They have

to start winning games.

They have

to do a good job of the draft before they're gonna have to start.

Again. See, I don't like that.

I don't wanna do I'm not we're not winning any offseason. You gotta win in the season.

But I'm willing to

say that like, I'm not holding you to your

word on the 6 out of 10. You can say what you really feel.

I'm not gonna say what I really feel, but if I were to say what I was gonna really feel, if I were gonna say it and, again, this is not me saying it, but if I were going to say it, I would say that hiring Ben Johnson literally changes everything about this franchise, and it's all the way back. But I didn't say any of that. I stayed at 6 out of 10 the whole time.

You can say whatever you want as

long as you follow it up with 6 out of 10.

Out of 10.

Yeah. I'm saying 6 out of the it's the the the this hire is so different than what what the bears are usually able to pull off, and he was and the guy is a fucking boy genius, and he is picking it because of Caleb Williams. And the McCaskis who are notoriously cheap are paying a ton of money. Everything, if I were gonna get out of the 6 out of 10 zone, I'd say, literally, everything has changed. And the Bears are all the way back.

And won the off season, probably gonna win the Super Bowl. But I'm staying 6 out of 10, so you gotta go and do it on the field before I get excited.

I love just the idea of George McCaskey getting aggressive with it. After all these years, he's like, it's time.

And I should probably say sorry to Kevin Warren too because he probably was the 1 who had to tell George McCaskey add another 0, dude. Mhmm. Like, hey. Yeah. Actually, you're gonna have to move that comma over like you were.

And he's like, what? Yeah. It's not 1,400,000. It's 14,000,000?

I mean, it's it congratulations to Ben Johnson. When when it comes to getting paid, this was a great, great way he went about it. Just say no to everyone. And then may and then they want you more.

And the bears are gonna go for it on 4th downs and get aggressive as fuck.

Yeah. What what needs to happen the next 3 years for you to to to maybe go to, like, 7 out of 10?

Oh, no. I'll go to 10 out of 10 if they start winning football game. I said they have to do it on the field. No. But I'm

saying in 3 years, what what would you consider success or failure?

They have to start winning games on the field. They start going to the playoffs. Playoff football is hard. So it's like, I you know, if they go to the playoffs, if they start maybe, you know, beating the packers, that kind of stuff. Although Thomas Brown did beat the packers.

He's 1 and o against the packers.

Are you gonna get to above a 6 out of 10 before the playoffs?

I'm gonna get above 6 out of 10 as soon as they start winning games.

Is that gonna be week 1? Yeah. Preseason? Yeah.

No. Not preseason. What if they win? Last summer, I said some really fucking stupid shit that everyone keeps reminding me of how stupid I sounded, and I did sound really stupid. And I feel stupid.

I'm a moron. This summer, I'm not going to say stupid shit. I'm going to say I'm I'm excited about things, but I'm not going to let myself get over my skis and I'm not gonna get to a point where I'm like, this is the best situation ever and blah blah blah blah blah. They got a lot of holes. They got a lot of work to be done.

Caleb's gotta get a lot better. If they start winning games and Caleb looks better, then we just start ramping it up.

It's a great hire. I think this is the right hire that the the best hire they could make. I know. Congratulations. Like, a 6 out of 10 should be a 10 out of 10.

This if you're a Bears fan It's

a million out of 10 if I had if I didn't agree to do 6 out of 10. No. Meves is policing me too. Meves is just following me around just, like, watching my moves.

He's a hero.

Like, are you staying 6 out of 10?

Snake in the grass. Now Adam Schefter did have a very funny spin on it when he

Shout out Scheftery, by the way. He was the he came on this show and said, don't follow the pack. Yeah. And when everyone was saying that Ben Johnson was gonna be on the Raiders.

He had

a very funny funny spin about it when he said that the the Bears have hired Ben Johnson. He said, Ben Johnson has spent the last week putting together a star studded cast of assistant coaches. Mhmm. And then there was a big picture of Dennis Allen.

I got I reacted poorly to that. Dennis Allen's actually a very good defensive coordinator. It's also really smart to get a guy who's been in the NFL for a long time and knows how this works as part of your staff. Darren Rizzi might be part of the staff. I I agree that which would be awesome.

That getting a an older guy that has coached before, good move. Would you say that it is star studded with Dennis Allen?

Not star studded, but Dennis Allen's a very good defensive coordinator. Mhmm. So yeah. I mean, star stud is probably the wrong word. Sounds like Shefty was getting out of a 10 out of 10 excited.

Yeah.

He was getting really excited.

I would have said very good defensive coordinator. Yep. An older gentleman, Dennis Allen, is joining the Bears.

Yeah. Now Rob Ryan, that's star studded. That is star studded. Shout out USC.

Yeah. That is that is star studded. I'm very excited. 6 out of 10. 1000000 out of 10.

Bears are back. 6 out of 10. Aaron Glenn? Not yet. Josie and Anderson said they're working through some contractual,

moving parts. Yeah. So negotiating.

Negotiating. Yes. Okay.

Who is going to be your GM?

The commander's assistant GM.

Okay. Are they gonna hire him after the coach?

I think so. I think they're gonna hire him together. Lance Newmark? Lance Newmark. Okay.

That's for the 49ers.

Alright. Okay.

That's my only value.

Are you and how do you feel about Legos? Yeah. How do you feel about Aaron Glenn? If we if we sign Aaron Glenn, we got the number 1 guy in the market. And he was the number 1 number 1 coach per me.

Per your interviews?

No. No. Just number 1 guy out there.

Number 1 coach or candidate on the market.

You did not want Mike Drabble?

No. And you want Benjie you didn't wanna interview Benjie?

I I want whoever we hire,

and that's the number 1 guy. I like that. That's smart. He's jet. I can't I can't relate because we got the number 1 guy.

But yeah.

No. We'll we'll see who got the number 1 guy during the season.

That's true. That's true, memes. That is.

Today could be the best day of your life. Also looking back, could be the worst.

Thanks, memes.

Okay. We Appreciate the fire.

Same for you, buddy. Same for you.

Congrats, big cat. This might be the worst day of

your life.

This could same for you. Could be the

best day.

Could be the best day.

And I think Ben Jacobson, he said that he, he turned down the jaguars because he didn't like how everything was set up.

Yeah. With Trent Baalke.

He didn't like the setup there. That means Trent Baalke.

That's where I'm I'm I'm shocked the Bears did it because the Bears have a similar setup where Ryan Pohl's in the last year of his deal, but credit to Ryan Pohl's, Kevin Moore, and Cassie. They did it. So you will be happy with Aaron Glenn?

I will be happy.

Leader of men.

Leader of men. Get everybody going in the right direction. He's a motivator. Lions fans seem to be happy that he's going, but Okay.

I don't care. And then, and then we have probably Mike McCarthy to the Saints? Maybe. Yeah. And then no idea what the Cowboys are gonna do.

You gotta do Deon.

Liam Liam Cohen to maybe the Jaguars?

I think I think Jerry Jones is shocked at how much head coaches cost now. Yeah. And so he's been out of the market for a little bit.

He didn't realize it.

And he's like, wait. He wants 14,000,000 and he's never coached before? Yeah.

Oh, I don't think

they even talked to Ben Johnson.

Kevin O'Connell, reached agreement on multiyear contract extension. At what cost? The cost of having that story leaked right before you had to play the lions.

Yeah. Now, again, we should know NFL coaches' salaries. That should be public.

I think there's a decent idea of I know Tomlin is, what, 16,000,000, 18,000,000? But it

should be, like, it should be out there.

Florio said Ben Johnson was 13 or 14.

The team should have to tell us, like, they tell us what the extensions are for quarterbacks.

Yeah. I agree. I wanna know that. I think Andy Reid gets paid 20.

Yeah. Fan bases have a right to know so they can choose how much they wanna complain to the owner.

Yeah. What what memes? You're looking at us quizzically.

No. I was just looking. Somebody said Ben Johnson got 6, 6 years 15.

15 a year?

Yeah. Okay.

That's a lot of money It is. That the Bears usually don't spend. What do you think Aaron Glenn's gonna get?

That's probably why this is taking so long.

He sees his buddy get 6 for 15. Yeah.

Yeah. If if you're the Cowboys, you gotta get Deion at this point. Right?

Yeah.

You gotta make every every play to get Deion.

Just have it be fun.

And then what are the Raiders gonna do? Yeah.

Alright. Last thing, how pulse check between Max and PFT? Pulse is strong. Max is very nervous.

50 52 beats a minute overnight

last night.

Wow. I feel pretty good about that.

Max is mumbling to himself a lot and saying a bunch of shit.

What does 52 beats a minute mean? Pulse. Pulse. Was that normal?

It's pretty good.

That's low.

Pretty it's it's good low, though. It means that you're you're maintaining.

Mine's probably pretty high, if I had

to say. Yeah. You're not I don't think you're handling the pressure great.

No. I'm I'm I feel it more than I've ever felt any pressure before in my life.

Do you think that we're adding to the pressure at all?

I have thought about this a lot. Uh-oh. You got a different second. The difference of my nerves going into this game because I work for the I work for this company and I work for this show. I think about it like if I was just a normal guy that was just an Eagles fan, lived in Philly.

Butt crack showing. Butt crack showing. Like, what where my my confidence would be, I think I would be, like, a confident asshole.

Mhmm.

Yeah. And that's what that's what we are.

Yeah. Hank Hank has finally aligned himself with the city of Philadelphia. I think big cat's going to too eventually based on money reasons. And, also, I the the New Orleans piece that

I I shout out that 1 guy who was just like, why doesn't big cat just take his, kids to New Orleans for the Super Bowl? Didn't think of that. Didn't think of that.

That sounds like fun. Yeah.

That sounds like a great time.

Yeah. But in a way, because everybody is aligning themselves with the Eagles and rooting for the Eagles, that puts way more pressure on Max.

I don't know if I'm fully aligning with the Eagles. I think I'm I I have to figure out what I'm gonna do with my my Eagles future if I might cash out because I there's part of me that's just like, if the Commodores win, we're just it it is also great for the show. So although I did tell Max I was gonna slash his tires as the Eagles didn't win.

Yeah. So there's a little bit more pressure there. I'm fully aligned.

And I might have also said that I was gonna get his girlfriend to give me a key to his apartment. I was gonna beat him up while he sleeps.

Yeah. It's all fair stuff. That this is why we watch sports.

I I I feel

I feel confident in the fact that I've I'm I've accepted the fact it's house money, and I have to kinda put aside

Loser talk.

All the shut up, Harry. I have to put aside all the stats, all the, like, roster gazing that you do, and you look at all the dudes that Philly has. You have to throw that all away. None of that really matters right now. What matters is that we have the best quarterback in this game who's capable of doing things that aren't cape that other quarterbacks aren't against the Philadelphia Eagles.

He's the hottest quarterback in the league right now. And the Eagles have a history It's not the NCAA tournament. I think what Jaden kind of is.

I mean, something is happening.

I have I have a I just noticed something. Mhmm. PFT Hank called you a loser, and you said, shut up, Hank. You didn't say shut the fuck up, Hank.

Yeah. Which makes me think that

No.

This is Philly. This is Philly, Hank.

Normally, you say, shut the fuck up, Hank.

Yeah. This is Philly, Hank.

You you kind of accepted that when you said

Oh, Max

is I think you're I think you're digging, Max.

I think No. You're pressing

I mean, how often do you say

it wasn't

shut the fuck up, man. Wait. Max said that. He's not so far. Yeah.

That's a wind horse. He just wind horsed you.

This is Philly Hank. He he you

might have half accepted loser.

Inflection of your of your voice was not an it was shut up, Hank. Not shut the fuck up, Hank. You kinda

just got No.

Shut the fuck

up, Hank is is a is a motto

in your in your brain. Usually, when I usually, when I scream at Hank and tell him to shut the fuck up, it's because there's, like, a kernel of really mean truth in whatever Hank has just said, and so I have to just shout him down. In this 1, I

don't think that's what you're talking about. I like just doing this now. Oi nois. How so how about that? How about it?

How about it? This is a podcast, but this is for the You're also your speakers up. I'm just doing the Oi nois.

Do you have care care to address what

I just said? Would you I wasn't talking about I'm just doing the wind horse. Are you still doing the wind horse? Focusing on the fingers. I was focusing on the fingers.

I'm sorry. Say it again.

No. I didn't hear you about

closing your mouth.

Yeah. Say it again.

No. I said it. Listen to podcast. No. Come on.

No.

It'll be fine. Just say it again. We're having fun doing the wind horse thing.

Here's the thing.

You said I've always I heard you say it well. Everything I say is the truth

or something. Yeah. That's exactly what I said. It is it is house money. We're playing with no pressure, and we're a dangerous team.

And, oh, you can put all the stats in front of me. I think you could throw them out. Spreads don't matter in this game. Agreed. It doesn't.

The spread does not matter at all.

Unless the Eagles win by

a field goal. Which I don't think that they will.

But they could. I think

I think the Eagles are gonna win by a touchdown or more or the commanders are gonna win by 3.

But you said eagles first.

I didn't win or Oh, no.

Because big cat just said, I don't see the eagles winning by a touchdown.

Oh, no.

No. I didn't say that. I said I said unless the eagles win by 3.

Yeah. So then that that's why I said I see the eagles winning by more than that or losing outright. Got it. It's fine. Hey.

This is gonna be gang up week. I'm not gay. I'm just obsessed doing wind horse.

Gang gang gang. I'm gonna die dye my

hair blonde and put on a white T shirt and underpants and sit on a couch in front of you guys because it's just gonna be it's gonna be just taking rods from all angles. Memes on my side. And that's fine.

I have meme meme wants a commander. I am I am heavily debating cashing out and betting the commanders because I think the commanders are gonna win, though.

Yeah. You won't do it. And I don't care if you do it or not. You Alright. So when I do it You gotta

do it. When I do it, you apologize to me?

No. I don't because because you're

What do you mean you won't do it? Because I I might do it. I might do it.

I'm not what am first of all, what am I gonna apologize to you for? Second of all, I

saying I

do not give a fuck who you bet on this weekend. Okay.

Alright. Well, I'm saying I might not gang up on you. You're say you can't say you guys are gang up on me. I'm like, I haven't decided yet and then be like, I don't give a fuck. Okay.

Those are 2 conflicting things.

Well, because right now, you are betting on on the Eagles.

That's what I'm saying. Future on

the Eagles. I'm living in the present.

I have a future on the Eagles. Listen. If the fingers trigger you, we'll stop doing the fingers.

You guys can finger whatever you want. It's gang week. Finger away, boys.

So funny.

No. Yeah. Obviously, this is

you and I are going into this game in 2 completely separate

modes of mind. Mhmm.

Modes of mind. Modes of mind. Yeah.

Word count. If the yeah. True. Word count. I'm done.

I'm just thinking about yeah.

Just shut it down.

It would it would be,

if the Eagles lose this game, my life is over.

If you lose this game, you had a great season.

Yeah. This is the window. This is the start of the window, and we could shut your window.

I I think this should be I

have thought more about that. Our defensive window is just beginning, and that is a real thing.

Yeah. But Our defense

is coming so good

and show you.

You're gonna find out, son. If we if we go into your house, though, and beat the Eagles, then there's a new daddy. There's no way. Then then you can forget you don't run this shit anymore if that happens.

I Hank is might actually be on your side. The the way he says everything look. He's smiling.

Oh, you win yours? Smiling. Are you win yours? Look at him. Look at him.

Hank, everything that

he says, there's a there's a a little, word count.

Max is so paranoid. Yeah. This this now makes the previous wind horse seem a little crazy because you're just you're just pointing at everyone now.

How come you didn't say fuck, BFT? Usually, you say fuck. It was

decent

point. It was that was a good point.

The fingers I'm I'm okay. They're funny, though.

I'm excited. And there's a good chance that the Eagles win this game. I'm not I'm I'm not delusional. I don't think that the Commander should be favored in this game. I think the Eagles have a great team.

They're favored for a reason. But I also feel confident going into it. And I felt confident going into the Lions last week. I did. I felt as the week went on, I got I got more calm.

So let's just let's just see what happens between the lines on Sunday, Max. Yeah. And, may the better team advance the

Super Bowl.

But you should be more calm. Work out. I'm done. Yeah.

I should be

I I have to dig into the matchup because I do there's a chance I bet on the commanders because I do think they're just something Jaden Dano's so special. Like, I bet on them against the the Lions. I wish I had bet MoneyLion. I would rather just win. I'd rather win my bet than than have to look at you and be like, you did it again.

You better watch tape, buddy. Watch tape. I'm grinding the tape. He's

word counting. Alright. Let's get it to ourselves. Let's do hot seat, cool throne.

First of all, before we get to that, is Jalen Hurts okay?

He's got a word count. You're gonna have to First of all. First of all. Yeah. That was a 20 minute segment.

Was it you know, it was

a it was a 2

part question. He's on a word count.

So Is Jalen. Yes. Is Jaylen fine?

He's a ball

he's a gamer. Is he okay, Hank? He's a gamer. Yep. Is Quinnian Mitchell okay?

Don't Yes. I've looked into how I've I've looked into the Chiefs drugs.

I'm trying to get some Mahomes drugs for

Jaylen Hertz.

He just tried

out some of that shit too.

Yeah.

They there's there's drugs out there for him to be fine. Yep. I gotta find them.

Yeah.

I'm worried about big Dom. Big Dom can get anything.

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My hot seat is the biz.

Oh, biz.

People not respecting it.

Yeah.

Players not respecting it.

Oh. This is bad.

Go on. This is bad, big cat.

Try not to breathe.

If you have kids at home and they're listening to this podcast, they might not wanna listen to

this. Oh, no. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

After after the Notre Dame game lost, Dan Wolken

Yeah. Was in the

locker room.

1 of the funniest names ever considering everything that he talks about stands for.

He's a guy that has he covers a sport that he seems to hate. Well, that's a lot of college football. But yeah.

Yeah. But he well, and, actually, that's a lot of journalism.

Yeah. It is.

Like, that's I when people ask, like, how how are you able to do this job for as long and still love it? It's like, because we love sports.

Yeah. You're right. A lot of movie critics are like that too.

It's like, how could you how could you watch sports for a living and cover sports for a living and not like it?

Mhmm. He tweeted bizarre scenes from the Notre Dame locker room. Players yelling at reporters, coaches warning people not to ask certain questions, amateur hour. Wow. No respect for the biz going on in the Notre Dame locker room.

After losing the biggest game of their life, what a shocker.

I can't believe that college football would turn into amateur hour. That is absolutely

We're going backwards.

It is a disgrace, guys.

I mean, if I lost a national championship, the first thing I would be thinking is, like, let's answer questions from the media in in a respectful way.

I'd probably yeah. I'd probably say fuck you to everyone who asked me a question.

Yeah. Like,

what? They'd probably lose my number, bitch.

Listen. Dan Wolkin pays your salary. You understand that? You gotta treat this man with the utmost respect.

I I I think we need to normalize more, like, bad losers. Like, would that should be fans and and players? Like, let them let them be sore losers for a minute. I saw I saw our friend Shane Gillis was tweeting last night and, like, I I think I think Jamie Joe Rogan's producer is an Ohio State fan and was like, I wouldn't be as salty. And then he he replied something like, congrats to Tony Hinchcliffe, Jamie, like, the Paul brothers, and every other really likable Ohio State fan out there.

It's like, let him be salty. I thought I thought Fuck it, dude.

I thought he purposely left young Jamie out

Oh, he might have. Just to deal him. I think well, I think he deleted that 1 and then came back and and said it. But it's like, let losing a big game sucks. People should like, when people are like, oh, you're acting like a bitch.

Yeah. That's the point. Yeah. They're like, let him act like a you shouldn't act like a bitch, like, the next day, but yeah. Fuck yeah.

Yeah. I mean, what do you expect when you go into a locker room after a national championship loss? Yeah. What do you honestly like, I would be concerned with the team if they were just super respectful and, And, like, hey. Yeah.

I'm open for questions. Ask me about field goals. Yeah. Ask me about every ask me about that first drive and whether or not our quarterback was just on e after that after that, like, 20 play drive to start the game. Ask me all the questions that you think that I'm going to get pissed off about, because I love that about journalists.

It's the old saying, show me a sore loser, and I'll show you a loser. Yeah. I don't know. I I actually would I I think we should have, like, a 24 hour hour shot clock for big games, fans, and and players alike that anything they they should be able to say whatever they want, and it shouldn't count long term. I also And then you'd get actually real answers.

You'd be you'd get people being like, fuck that.

I also think the real irony is that the journalists that complain the most about players not answering their questions, if you question them about anything Mhmm. They get the most offensive and they're like, fuck you. Block. Yeah. Yeah.

Frisco.

So you're out

of here.

With the biz.

Biz hot seat. Or no. Respecting the biz.

Yeah. You okay?

Yeah. My, my cool throne is the 9 darter.

Mhmm.

Okay. Time has come. So starting this Friday, probably 7 or 8 o'clock, I will be starting the 9 darter journey. Now it's obviously impossible, physically impossible. I could do this 9 darter for a 1000 years, and I would never get a 9 Darter.

No one's ever done it before.

No amateur that I've I've heard of. I've I've searched some forums, and then there's people that, you know, read it threads and stuff where they're like, yeah. I've been in a league for 40 years. Never never been done. Getting an 8 a 3 darter is hard enough.

I've gotten, you know, 33 darters in my life. Never come close to getting them twice in a row. So so the 9 darter, I will not be getting 9 consecutive darts. If that bothers you, just stop listening.

Can you explain, what the 9 darters again?

In what what a regular 9 darter is? A 9 darter. So darts, is is you started 501 points to start, and a 9 darter is when you go from 501 to 0 in 9 darts.

Right.

So it's a perfect it's 3 perfect rounds. There, you couldn't it's an immaculate round, basically. Like, there's no that's the least amount of darts you could throw. It'd be like shooting, you know, whatever. 18 under par.

Like, it's a perfect round.

Yeah. You're, like, getting hole in 1 on every hole. Yeah.

Yeah. In the the yeah. This is not, to put into perspective, because I I do think you deserve this, Hank, is like it it's not like hitting a hole in 1 1 time. It's not, like, some of these like, you know, hitting a, 65 mile an hour fastball out of, like, a stadium. Like, it it would be, like, trying to hit a 105 mile an hour fastball out of a Major League Park.

It would be, like, having LeBron guard you and trying to hit a 3 on his head.

For for Hank, like, trying to dunk on LeBron.

Trying to

dunk on LeBron. It's it's shooting under par at Augusta. It's not it's not like a, oh, I can get 1 fluky thing to happen here with a hole in 1. This will be awesome. It's it's it's impossible for the regular person.

It's not even the 3 bowling a 300. Like, I think that you could bowl 300 eventually. I don't think you could ever get a 9 dart.

But it's like it's it's similar to the we're doing the stream similar to, like, the bowling of 300 where you couldn't bowl 300, but after time elapses, then it gets easier and easier. So, basically, the plan is to do 3 3 darters. So once I get you know, if I get 3 triple twenties, then that leg is done.

I like this.

2 3 darters. And every 12 hours, I can get closer to the dartboard. So I will be living at the office until this is done. It will be a constant stream from Friday until Sunday before the games. And if I'm not done by then, we'll go down for, obviously, the game stream.

We have to record the podcast, and then I'll start again Monday morning. So if it takes me until next week, it takes me till next week. I will not be leaving the office starting Friday until the stream is done. And there's, you know, there's there's some some wrinkles we have where I'm not just gonna be throwing darts all the time because I'll just my arm will will give up, but there's challenges and different things where the first and third legs I have to do on my own. But the second leg, so that way Saturday, we can have people come in and help out, like PFT or big cat.

You know, I can I'm not I'm, again, I'm not physically gonna be able to throw darts for 40 hours straight. I might take a break. We might have a you know, whoever's in the office come in, and they can throw darts as much as they want. If they get the first 2, I always head to the third 1. So, like, there's there's ways where people can help me, you know, do a leg, but I have to do the first and third legs on my own.

And then we'll have, you know, some challenges and stuff where it's like I might go in the golf simulator for an hour. If I get a hole in 1, then I only have to get 2 out of 3 darts. Like, there's we have challenges set up golf stream.

Yeah. Yeah. I I I listen. No. No.

No. I I can hate you. I'm I'm gonna defend you here. Do you hate me?

What what are you gonna say?

I was gonna say, I think this is a really, like, smart way to do it. I think it's gonna be fun for the viewers. Go fuck the eagles. I hope the eagles

I I think

ignore you. I I think that, like, understanding the whole point is, like, it's a punishment. It's gonna suck for Hank. He's gonna live in this office. He's making it a way that eventually he can get it, but it still is going to be very, very, very, very difficult.

So, again, I will back up Hank in the fact that if you, have a problem with this, just don't watch. It's gonna be awesome. I think it's gonna take them

3 days probably still. If if I can get to before because that's the thing. We we're gonna go down, and we have to do the streams and then the podcast and stuff after. So I won't be like, the my best case scenario was finishing before Sunday. If we don't finish before Sunday, then I'm then I'm in then I'm in 1.

It is a very, very difficult challenge that you have. And I think the act of throwing a dart, it seems so easy. But if you do it for 12 hours in a row, your elbow is gonna be killing you.

Yeah.

Yeah. I'd have to start throwing righty. But, yeah, every 12 hours, I can get a foot closer. So I think, hopefully, by, like, you know, worst case scenario, by Tuesday, I'll be close enough for

And we also have so scheduling wise, it's very so you're gonna be doing it over the weekend. Monday night, which we haven't announced, but we're we are gonna have a Doug stream. We we have 1 last Doug stream, so I'm I'm gonna try to win a national title where I, pick. We're gonna just play the playoffs. And then after the Doug stream, it's gonna go straight into the hole in 1 stream with Jerry and Tate, Barstow after dark.

So it could be we could have, like streams

going on at once.

Yeah. We could have and then and then also the case race on Tuesday. It's gonna be a chaotic week, and there could be multiple streams going on at once. We could combine them. It's gonna be fun.

Hank, I'm I'm rooting for you. I'm gonna try to come in and help you out at at points. Where are you gonna be doing it? On the court?

We have the the the dartboard's mobile.

Oh.

We can do different locations.

So when I Like I said,

because I'm not gonna be able I don't wanna sit in 1 place.

So when I wanna bring my kids in so that they can play in the office, you can you can go somewhere else so they can play in the office. I That's really the important

thing. We can figure that out.

No. I'm gonna come in and help.

Have you done any prep for for your dart technique?

What does

that mean? I don't know. Like, practiced or or trained?

Have I thrown a dart before?

Like, have you learned anything that you're planning on taking into I think it's a pretty normal question to be asking. Fuck you, PFT. Yeah. My bad.

Why don't you ask that?

Sorry. Have you have you prepared at all for this big challenge that you're gonna do? That was a normal question. Bad question.

You're you're you're listen. I see what's going on here. I'm gonna take a step back. Oh, let me take a step back. Your guard your guard is off.

Let me let me step in.

It hasn't been 12 hours yet, PFT.

Let me step in. Hank, what the fuck?

It was he was simply asking Yes. I've you have you been, like, practicing? Have you been working on it at all, which is a in PFT's defense, completely normal question.

Thank you. I've watched some YouTube videos of throwing darts. I mean, it's darts. Like, it's it's

do you

have any advice, fucking Michael Van Gerwen?

Yeah. I would I would I would prepare for it, like, a little bit. It sound it sounds like you've prepared for it.

How would you prepare?

It sounds like doing this this stuff that you're doing where you watch YouTube videos, maybe get on the board a couple times and just take some practice, figure out where the elbow goes.

Me, personally, if I had to pray for this, I'd just get nasty at darts.

I'm bad

at darts.

Oh, that's that's that's the problem.

You know what I'm gonna do? It's it's because it's the Mount Rushmore punishment.

Oh, is it? Yeah. Is that what it is?

Yeah. Yeah. And he's a little upset about that.

Next year, let's just do no punishment for the Mount Rushmore. Hank, I'm

gonna be rooting for you. I I want you to do it because You got this. I want you to be out of this mood.

I genuinely think it's gonna be a great dream.

Good mood till you

said, like, I'm trying to like, what? I had to fucking throw darts for a 100 hours straight. I'm coming up with little 1 hour wrinkles. I mentioned 1 and you're

It's just a gold streak. This is a gold streak. This is a gold streak. The 1 the the the wrinkles are gonna make it better for you.

Punishments are, like, the dumbest shit in the fucking world. But

Okay. Good that

we've we're getting this out. Yeah. Yeah. This feels good.

I can tell that you're upset.

Well, that was a triggering comment.

I I

can tell that you're I can tell that you're upset. You know that somebody was gonna make the joke. Would you rather come from me?

Maybe not.

I don't really care what other people say. Like, I care about what you say. Okay. About this room.

Do you care when I say that I'm rooting for you?

I don't believe it. But yeah. I guess.

We gotta keep the we gotta keep everything in the locker room, boys. We shouldn't have these we shouldn't have these type of fights publicly. Okay? Let's keep this in the line. I think you can do it in No 1 will hear this.

I think you're I think it's gonna take you a day and a half.

I would love to be done before Sunday, but

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But it a 3 year old card. Also, with all these streams, as long as you

set tried.

I have I have thrown in throwing darts for, I don't know, probably 6 or 7 hours total in the last month or so, and I

had a

preparation. I haven't come close to a 3 darter. So it's like that's that's my fear. I'm not good at darts.

Yeah. Okay.

Have you thought about getting a little bit drunk?

Yeah. I think Saturday night, we might get weird with it. Yeah.

Okay. I got some

I got some we're gonna bring some guests. And that's the thing. I'm I'm trying to to to spice it up. I'll probably be sleeping on stream and stuff. But, yeah, I think Saturday night after, whatever, 24 hours at that point, there's, like, my body is there's no point in in I'm just gonna get drunk and and try.

Yeah. My recommendation is That's

where it's like that's where I'm gonna

be relying on people to hopefully show up and get the 2 darts, and then that third dart, that will be the moment.

I would I would tell you that if you get a little bit drunk, I would get a little bit drunk earlier than that before your arm gives out because you are better. Your coordination is, like I don't know. When I play darts, I always feel like I'm much better after exactly 3 beers.

Question.

Damn.

Sleeping on stream. Are you worried about boners?

I'm worried about sleep talking.

Oh. Boners. Yeah. Not Oh, no. Sleep talking.

I didn't even think about that.

I've I've I've already I think I'm a do mouth tape, but we'll probably just

mute the sound.

I don't know. I'm a I

don't know. I'm I'm

a sleep talker. It's a it's a I am too.

Major issue in my life. Okay. Yeah. I'm excited. Listen.

If if Hank gets a

boner in

his sleep, nobody screen grab it. Yeah. Please. K? You're in the locker room too.

Yeah. Good luck, Hank.

I'm rooting for you. Thanks. I'm glad that you did some preparation for it. I think that was smart.

Thanks. Yeah.

Yeah. You're welcome.

Okay.

So I was gonna have Dan Wilkin too, but my hot seat instead, I guess, will just be me and Max's hair because we're trying to figure out what our bet is gonna be for the Eagles commanders game. And it seems to all be hair related suggestions that we're having. So we've Hank, this is actually maybe a good chance for you. You say it. My my punishments are always way easier.

Bick it. Shave. Yeah. Because the the suggestions the suggestions didn't even wasn't even a punishment, and I did it. Yeah.

That's for for a championship. So this is for the NFC championship game. The suggestions that we've been hearing a lot are, the loser gets a mullet.

Which is your suggestion, what you wanna do.

But he's been hearing it a lot. I've been

hearing it a lot.

He's hearing it a lot.

That's okay.

People like that. Hearing it a lot when he when he is just sitting in his car, and his thoughts are telling him things. Yeah. There's been a lot of people saying

that in his car. I also have a bet

that we could do. We could do the winner goes to

the Super Bowl and the loser doesn't. I don't understand why we have to do a bet for this game.

Do that. I I thought the I thought the bet that we talked about on Sunday night was was a good 1 where the loser has to make a, Colts banner and put it behind their seat for a year. So it's like every time you have a shot on this podcast, there's a banner that says, But

you just said the fans want hair, but you don't care about the fans, Max?

I just don't know. PFT is just, like, forced this

Max is right. The stakes are already

as high

as it could be. Right. There couldn't be higher. I I kind of agree with him that you don't need to do like, it's not like you're not gonna care.

Like, the pinky bet we do at as, like, an extra thing. A pinky bet.

I do it, and it's stupid. But as a as

a collective, we as in podcast. Yeah. But it the the we're we're getting into a bet culture that we're just gonna we're we're, like, we're gonna fuck ourselves because

I I'm I'm not totally discreet saying you're

gonna have to do something you don't wanna have

to do that might be physically possible to steal. To do it. This game already has a lot of

This isn't this isn't a pod like, it just so happens that

No. I listen. I I I understand the stakes could not be higher, but, like, instantly, when it was gonna be Commanders Eagles, everybody was blowing me up saying, what are you guys gonna bet on this game? So what about the People do wanna see a wager on it.

What about the what about the, the banners? The banners could be good. I mean, that would hurt both of you, like, significantly, because we'll be in we'll be doing this show in August, and it'd be, like, right behind you. Every time you see a clip, it says it right behind you. I like

big tone suggestion. He said that it's, like, from a

Hire him?

Samurais or,

Loser has to hire

him. Samurais or just forakis that you put your hair in a ponytail, the winner cuts it off with a blade to signal victory over his adversary.

I like your guys' hair. I don't really want either of you. I I like No. But that

cornrows for a month. That would be funny. That would make me laugh.

That would be that would be funny. I don't hate cornrows either because it

It doesn't it doesn't affect you long term.

You just look ridiculous.

Yeah. You every time you talk, we're just gonna be like, what is this?

Cornrows with, like, the the beads. Yeah. Yeah.

I like that. The problem with cornrows for me is that, I've got some seedlings that are germinating and sprouting up here, and that could potentially pull the seedlings out.

Okay. So we'll we'll we'll talk about this. Yeah.

Yeah. We'll we'll cut on Friday, we'll have a we'll have a final.

What what did you get yesterday, PFT? Max doesn't wanna do anything.

I would do I would do cornrows.

I don't wanna do anything.

Like He doesn't wanna permanently change

permanently change my hair. Yeah. I've been doing I like, this is my hair.

The thing about hair is it grows.

But, like, if we shave what?

Yeah. I permanently shave my hair.

You have a shaved head. False. Very false.

You have short hair.

You look at your head. Look at the side of your head.

Yeah. Well, after the back of your head

After I after I binged him

the entire ass, you

also chose to do this.

No. You actually said that. You said Yeah. You said if the if the Celtics win a final,

I would shave my head.

You did. That's insane.

That is that is so that is true.

No. It's not.

What happened?

I think it's true.

Big cat big cat asked Derrick White being like, oh, Hank will shave his head. Can you do it? And then Hank was like, sure. If this happens, I'll do it.

So that

But Big Cat set it up.

Well, I asked a question. You can't ask questions? What? I can't ask a question of an yeah. Actually, actually, actually, false.

I said that if

the Sixers won the NBA finals this year, I would I would shave my head.

So okay. Good point.

So I yeah. If the Bulls win the, NBA finals this year, I'll get a no. You know what? I'm not Yeah. Yeah.

I'm not I'm just out of the pinky pinky bet. I'm not doing anything. I was I was gonna say I was I need a dragon tattooed on my back.

I I'll say if the if the Washington Wizards win the NBA championship, I will get Bub Carrington's face tattooed on my face.

Okay. Nice. Nice. Alright. Wait.

So so we'll figure this out Friday? Yes. We'll do something.

We will do something. We will do something.

Eyebrows? Memes are saying eyebrows.

We're back

to like eyebrows.

Eyebrows good.

Does eyebrows come back?

Yeah. Yeah. Max reacting without eyebrows being crushed. Oh, man. Yeah.

Full body wax? Yeah. Eyebrow's good. Eyebrow is good. Great to know.

Really good.

I don't like eyebrows.

Eyebrow's good. Wait.

I can't even see yours. You can't even

see it.

I don't like eye I still love my eyebrows. It's 1 part of my body in my calves, I feel really good about.

And that's touching his eyebrows right now. Alright. And your cool throne?

My cool throne is bulletin board material because Andy Reid is leaning into the bulletin board material hard, which I respect. You gotta do it. You gotta find it. But he's got he must have a team of people that are out there. And he's he's put them in a room saying scour the Internet, scour the newspapers, try to find any bulletin board material that you can get so that we can feel like we're we're underdogs going to this game.

And that's what a good coach should be doing. He's got to the point now where he's just making stuff up though because he said, I presume the Bills will probably be favored, but that's alright. We'll do our thing. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. Yeah.

If you tell your team, hey, you're the underdogs. The Bills are favored. Good. You can just lie about that.

Yeah. Yeah.

And it it it's all good. But, yeah, he's been he's been looking out there, and the fans have too, which I again, full respect. You gotta find any motivation where you can get it. And now Max and I are in the bulletin board, war with each other, which is good. This is healthy stuff.

Mhmm.

But it's like every team, you have to feel bad to make yourself work. That I mean, the ultimate bulletin board material was losing to Michigan if you're Ohio State. That was the best thing they could have ever hoped for

Yep.

In order to motivate them to to galvanize and come together. So, yeah, if you're a Chiefs fan, I would just deputize yourself as an Internet sleuth, find whatever bulletin board material you can get, and and send it to the Chiefs because they they're scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to find it now.

Yeah. Yeah. I saw that clip. I was like, this is just not true.

Not true? But But it doesn't really matter. Does it matter?

Doesn't matter.

If Andy Reid says it, it's true.

Yeah. Okay. My, hot seat is Carlos Alcaraz because he got fucking worked by the by by Djokovic, the goat.

What was your favorite part of the match?

It was when Djokovic beat him 3 to 1. Mhmm. And Djokovic is 37 years old. And I thought big bad Carlos Alcaraz, no 1 can beat this guy. He's the fucking next guy.

Not so fast.

What was that 1 year that he didn't win the Australian Open?

Because they kicked him out of the country because of, his he didn't wanna be vaccinated.

Honestly, shit. Getting kicked out of a country rocks. Yeah. That's, like, the coolest thing that you can

do. Did you see that? Yeah. There was a there was already a little controversy because there was a reporter, like, it looked like a, like, Good Day America, whatever the show is, like, for Australia. And he just bashed Good day.

Joe Djokovic and, his fans. And then they that same TV station wanted to ask him a question after the interview or after his first match. He's like, I'm not answering from you guys. Mhmm. Like, fuck that.

Oh, that's my goat.

Bizarre scenes from the Djokovic locker room. Deeply unprofessional. Amateur hour.

Amateur hour.

So yeah. I I love the American who what's her name? The American woman that's down there in Australia that's just yelling at the fans? I don't know. She's the best.

Coco? No. Not Coco. There's there's 1 lady that's from America. She goes down to Australia, and she's, like, talking shit to the fans.

Like, do you guys mind shutting up while I'm playing?

Lisa Leslie.

They start to boo her, and she's, what, like, putting her hand up to her ear, like, give me more. She's the best. Yeah. I I love a good tennis troll.

Love it. Alright. And then my, other hot seat actually is, I didn't know that I I maybe this happened and I just missed it, but I didn't realize that, the Gulf of Mexico is not the Gulf of Mexico anymore.

Gulf of America.

Yeah. That's fucking badass. We just renamed it.

Yeah. And soon, Mars is gonna be ours too. Hell, yes. Let's go. Let's start claiming stars.

Gulf of America does not sound great.

Well, because the thing is

I don't really under

when you go to the Gulf of Mexico yeah. If you go there for spring break, then it sounds like way less exotic if you go to the Gulf of America than the Gulf of Mexico. You can go to the Gulf of Mexico and be like, I'm in Destin, but you feel like you're in Cancun.

Right. And, also, doesn't the Gulf of Mexico have a bunch of oil spills? We should probably keep the branding there.

No. That happened in the Gulf of Mexico.

Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Keep it keep it but there's, like, I feel like every But

you're Destin, Florida is in the Gulf of Mexico? Yeah.

It's a body of water. Oh.

Yeah. Alright. So I take it back. I like that.

Okay. So yeah. But, yeah, but, yeah, to your point, the goal the oil spills happened in the Gulf of Mexico. Like, do we The Gulf of America You're right. Has not had an oil spill.

There's gonna be more oil spills. We should probably just keep it Gulf of Mexico.

Then it gets renamed back to Gulf of Mexico for, like, 2 weeks Yeah. Aft during the oil spill.

Yeah. And then my cool throne is, Zuck because he was checking out Bezos' wife's tits, and that was the first time I was like, this guy might be human.

Yeah. That was cool.

He he did Good job, Zuck.

Was she wearing just, like, a lace bra? Yeah. It was like lingerie. Okay. Let's normalize that.

Yeah. I think

I respect her right to wear that.

And, also, taking a peek. Yeah. Looks for free. But it was funny just because, like, Zuck is the last person that I would expect to get caught in 4 k doing that. Yeah.

I don't know if he had a recent software upgrade or whatever. It's like you have to start finding women attractive now

Yeah.

And and have the, have the capability for lust.

Good job. Good job, Zuck. You passed the test. They also were like, RFK. There was a clip of her taking off her jacket and RFK passing the test by not looking.

RFK is probably just gonna fuck that later.

Was that not AI? I

I no.

Where she took off her jacket. Oh, maybe she took off her jacket, but it was a clip Jess wearing a bra?

No. It was a clip of her standing in front of RFK, and he wasn't looking down.

Okay.

Got it.

He was she there there was a real clip of her, like, turning around, putting something down on a chair. Yeah. RFK kept his his gaze straight ahead, but knowing RFK, he's just gonna hit that later.

He's getting Bezos can't do shit. He he's looking. He's he's using that peripheral vision.

Yeah. Yeah. He's gotta utilize.

Trump also said again he was going to release the JFK files. Oh, that'd be I'm I'm very excited about that. I think it's a dude that lives basically in Chicago that did it. Yeah. He's an old guy, and he was in the mafia or mafia related.

Yeah. Jack Ruby was the guy who killed Harvey Oswald, and he he had ties to the mafia. Yeah.

It's mafia, CIA Cuba co hit. Could be interested. Lab? Yeah. Lab.

It's crazy. The most ambitious crossover event

of all time. Yeah. Like, the the the mafia came up with it. Cuba did the the second, verse, and then the CIA probably mixed it.

Featuring CIA. Yeah. Featuring CIA.

When I heard that news, I was like, mind blown.

Mhmm. CIA? How did they get involved? Well, this dude These are

good dudes. This dude was a special forces guy overseas, worked for the CIA and the military back in Vietnam. He was over in Laos. And then he came back here. He had all the training.

He helped train the Bay of Pigs operation.

Mhmm.

That got shot down by Kennedy at the Kennedy at the last second. Then the CIA was pissed at Kennedy. He's 1 of their special forces guys that works for him. He goes down, meets up with Lee Harvey Oswald. Lee Harvey Oswald gives him the gun.

It's a whole thing. It's a whole thing. But this dude there is a guy that's confessed to shooting RFK or, excuse me, JFK in the head, and he lives in Illinois. He lives close by. We gotta get that guy.

Driver? He was not the driver.

No. The driver did shoot him as well. It did happen. I watched that replay.

Okay. Gene Steritor would have been like, yep. That was the right call.

Good. That's targeting. Yeah. Alright. Let's get to our interviews.

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Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very good friend of the show, recurring guest, 17 year NFL pro. It is Ryan Fitzpatrick. He's here to talk a little playoff football. But before we talk playoff football, I gotta know, taking off your shirt at the Ravens Bills game on Sunday, how are you feeling?

How long did you have your shirt off? And, do you think you actually had anything to do with the win? That was a that was, like, 3 part question there.

Okay. Let's start with the last question. Did I have anything to do with the win? So right before kickoff, shirt off, lead the charge, say the cheer, the Ravens get the kickoff, they go right down and score 7 points. So I don't think I had much to do with the win.

Okay.

My voice is shot, a lot of tailgating, a lot of cheering. It my shirt was off from right before kickoff to when I got into the, green room in the back where the fans couldn't see me, and then I put 4 different layers of jackets and coats on with my mittens and my gloves. But it was, I mean, electric. The crowd was awesome, and it was such a great game. So happy that the Bills are moving on to the conference championship yet again.

Yeah. It was it was a great game. Do you think that there's anything different about this Bills team? Because I I am leaning very I know that I shouldn't bet against Patrick Mahomes. I understand that.

It's happened before. But I'm feeling like this Bills team might be different this year. Tough environment to go into, but do you see the same thing? Do you feel like there's a difference between this team and and what we've seen in the past?

Well, I'll say they look a lot like the Chiefs. Right? I mean, they've kinda morphed into this team that doesn't turn the ball over. They're able to possess it, and, you know, they don't have a ton of explosives in the last few weeks on offense, but Josh has played really efficient. The thing that gets me about Josh now looking at him now versus, like, 5 years ago, he's so patient.

When you're watching the game, he's not forcing stuff down the field. That being said, and if you look at the last game with Kansas City, he's gonna have to hit some goal balls down the sideline. They play a lot of man coverage. Amari Cooper was involved in that first game. He's gonna have to be involved again.

Keon Coleman's gonna be have to have to be involved again. So it's been interesting because they sort of have evolved into this team that looks like Kansas City on offense now, but I think it's their time, man. I mean, Kansas City has been so good. Obviously, Patrick Mahomes has been so good, but, I think it's their time. They do feel a little bit different this year.

Yeah. I mean, they do run the ball well, the the Bills, and it feels like they're very balanced. I'm a little nervous still about that. It feels like the Bills' middle of the field defense is not it it that's where they're vulnerable. And on the other side, there's a hall of famer who is now what, I think we had the stat 14 straight playoff games where he's had 70 yards or more in Travis Kelce.

What Yeah. For from you when you're watching the games and you're watching maybe the the film after, what what makes him so special, and what is he doing that, like, other tight ends aren't able to do?

Well, his his rules are different than every other tight end in the game. He gets to do whatever he wants, and that's just something that over time, he and Patrick I mean, they they're so on the same page. So for example, if he's got a 12 yard out route, well, if it doesn't look like it's gonna be open, he can turn in or he can run his out route and then stop or he could just keep running vertical. And for me, that would be really difficult because I was so much about, like, the the timing and getting it out when it's supposed to. And but with him and Patrick, they're the same mind.

It's unbelievable. He's got such a great feel for the game. And even as you've seen maybe his athleticism come back a few notches the last few years, he's still just as effective because of how smart he is. And you'll see zone coverage, he's just gonna get the ball quite a bit because he's gonna be able to find those holes. Patrick's gonna be able to look around the field and then find him over the middle.

So it's amazing to see what he's doing, and, of course, you know, the playoffs come. He wakes up and, it's the same old Travis Kelce again.

Did you ever play with someone who you gave them their own rules or had any of that, like, free flowing? Like, hey. We're gonna play this a little different where I know that I trust you so much. You're gonna make the right decision, and you can improvise a little?

Yeah. So there were 2 guys. And the first 1, if you guys remember Stevie Johnson in Buffalo. Yep. So we did we did a lot of 3 by 1 formations, and a lot of that you know, the the 1 was just Stevie on the backside.

If it was man to man, you know, I was gonna throw it to him. If it was zone coverage, I was gonna go to the 3 receiver side. So I came up with what we called a you do you route, and I would just give him the y. And that meant, Stevie, you do you, buddy. Whatever you wanna do, a slant, a go, a hitch, just get open.

Yep. And he was phenomenal. His releases, you know, you talk to guys, you talk to Rivas, you talk to Sherm, Those are, when they say who gave you the most trouble, you know, they would say Stevie Johnson was 1 of the guys at the top of the list. He was so difficult to cover. And then Brandon Marshall was the other guy, just so smart.

And and some of that with him was like, hey. You can run an in cut here, but if the safety comes down, go ahead and make it an in and a go up the middle of the field. But it's you have to really trust the guys to be able to do that. So there weren't a whole lot of those guys in my career, but those were 2 of them for sure.

Yeah. And then on the outside for the Chiefs, you have Xavier Worthy who started off the year a little shaky. They would they would give him the ball in space sometimes and and design some plays where they could just use his speed. And then he kinda hit, like, a lull in the middle of the season. He was, he had, like, the worst sideline awareness, for a while.

It was 80 wide receiver. He just, like, catch the ball 1 foot down, would skate out of bounds. But towards the end of the season, he's looked a lot better. And it feels like if we're doing, like, the narrative, if we're looking back, and I'm imagining what I'm going to be saying on Monday, I could see a world where I just focus and say, how did the Bills let this let let this guy go to Kansas City? How do you make that trade?

That feels like a big narrative and and, like, the next brick in the wall of sadness for Buffalo to to get beat by the guy that that you gave to Kansas City. But what have you seen from Xavier Worthy this season as it's progressed that shows you that he's becoming a a real threat?

Yeah. Well, I could tell you the Buffalo fans are hoping that Keon Coleman has a big game for that reason to kill that narrative. But, I mean, Xavier Worthy, perfect situation for him to be in because Andy Reid, he's a mastermind. He's an offensive genius. And so that speed and the way they've been able to incorporate him, different ways of getting him the ball.

It's obviously not all just down the field stuff. It's some of the reverses and some of the, you know, cute plays that you can really take advantage of his speed. But, I I think, eventually, they're gonna hope that he evolves into more than just a gadget guy, and he's shown he's shown some potential this year. But as you said, some of the sideline awareness and some of those things that it's gonna take to be a true number 1 receiver, he he's just not there yet. But I I I could promise you when teams are playing the Chiefs, he's 1 of those guys that they're gonna circle, and they're gonna say, we can't let this guy ruin the game.

They're gonna know where he is on every play.

Yeah. Alright. I I we're we're obviously gonna talk about the NFC championship game and what Jaden Daniels has been doing, but I a question just popped in my head that I I realized I don't think I've ever asked a quarterback this. Jake Elliott has struggled. If you're in that locker room, if you're the quarterback of a team and you know your kicker is going through it, what is the mentality in these games?

And are you are you just avoiding him altogether? Are you are you thinking to yourself like, hey. If we're, you know, at the 35, like, we really gotta get 5 more yards because he sucks right now, and he's something's going on with his head. How how does that affect you as a quarterback? I realized that I I never really asked that question.

It might the answer might be, like, it doesn't affect us at all.

Well, I I mean, it it would affect how I go about the week, which is trying to instill confidence in him, letting him know that we still believe in him. You know, letting him know that there's gonna be a big kick or a big moment in the game where we're really gonna need you, and I've got your back. I believe in you a 100%. So it's that part of it, which is the mental part of it. And then it is when you're in those offensive meetings, especially with the play caller or the head coach, you have those discussions of, okay, where are we thinking we're gonna go for it?

You know, if it's 4th and 5 on the 35, like you said, this is a situation this week, you know, where we could potentially just go. We're gonna go for it every time. We don't feel comfortable unless he's inside the 45. And even there, you know, points are gonna be at a premium this game. Maybe if it's less than 4th and 4, we're going no matter what.

And you saw that with a team like Detroit this year and Mhmm. You know, with Washington and how unbelievable they've been on 4th down this year. It's a mentality, and guys take a lot of pride in it. And if you know beforehand, okay, coach is putting it on us as an offense, that's a real motivator for you to get it done as an offense. And so that I think that's where I would be.

A lot of closed door whispers that Jake's not gonna hear, but then outwardly, you're trying to, you know, breathe some confidence into him.

Do you when you're on the sideline, do you watch the kick? If you know your kicker's struggling, do you watch the kick, or do you close your eyes? I think I'd close my eyes.

No. No. I'm always I'm always a kick watcher.

Always watching that kick. Is there are there guys that you know, like, in the in the locker room that are not kick watchers? Like, there's a divide. Like, we got our kick watchers and not kick watchers.

Some k watchers? Yeah. Yeah. Some k watchers and some k watchers. Yeah.

Usually, they go hand in hand. If you're a c watcher, you're a k watcher usually and vice versa.

Yeah. I I you know that Jake knows that those conversations are happening. Yeah. Like, you can have the whispers behind the and

he's thinking there's a lot of whisper. Well, it's like Every conversation you're playing thinks about him. Yeah. When you're playing quarterback and you're not playing well, you know, and and it's like, am I gonna get benched or am I not? And those whispers are happening everywhere, and you walk in a room and it goes silent.

You know? Mhmm. Hey, guys. Yeah. Yeah.

You know they're happening, but it's those those inner demons, man. You gotta fight them. You just gotta go out and rely on your technique and, you know, just I would tell him you're here for a reason, man. You've made a lot of big kicks in your career.

Yeah. You gotta be careful about gassing up too much. Like, then he knows, like, this is okay. You just complimented me on my park job that I had this morning.

Like, yeah. Hey.

Great job, Jake. You split you really split those lines.

Perfect job. I also I I would definitely, like, bust balls and be like, you're here for a reason, Jake, and it's because it's way too late to find another kicker or something like that. And then probably just completely

go against what I was

trying to

do. Like a Tuesday. That's a Tuesday conversation. Yeah.

You're here

for a reason. It's because we haven't killed you yet. Yeah. So you're welcome. That's how much we believe in you.

You're here for a reason. The only other free agent out there that could get here in time was Cody Parkey.

Yeah. But I I'm obviously super excited for the NFC championship game. It it feels kinda surreal that Washington is in the NFC championship game this quickly into a turnaround. I love what they've done. All the credit to Adam Peters for getting good veterans, nailing some draft picks, and, and and getting Dan Quinn on board.

But I was I was actually watching the tape, Fitzy. This is how this

is how you. You're fine. My level

my level of preparation. I've been grinding the all 22. Last night, I watched the Thursday night game that the commanders played against the Eagles in Philly. Yeah. And I was just watching Jalen Carter the entire time because that guy wrecks everything.

He scares me. And the fact that Sam Cosme, our our best offensive lineman, some might say, he he's out probably for a long time with an ACL, and he lines up directly across from Jalen Carter. So now we've got a backup coming in trying to stop this guy. What, as an offense, would you look to do? Because you can't take him out of the game.

It's impossible. He's gonna find a way to make some plays. But what would you do to limit his effectiveness in

stopping you? Yeah. Well, you nailed it. I'm really worried about that matchup too. And even with Cosmi, I mean, Carter's just been an issue.

Right? But with Sam being out, that's a big deal. I I think, you know, they're built for it the way that Kliff Kingsbury runs his offense, getting it out quick, you know, making sure that some of your shot plays or the plays you're gonna hold on to the ball a little bit longer happening later in drives. I think that's part of it. So getting them gassed a little bit, making sure that, you know, you're getting your 1st downs and extending your drives.

And then maybe on the 6th play of the drive, okay, Jalen Carter just had 4 pass rushes in the last 5 plays. Maybe this is 1 we can hold on to it longer. Those things, they have to go in your head, and then protection schemes are the same thing. But Philly is really good up front, so it's not just 1 guy. That's gonna be the guy.

Obviously, they're gonna circle and say we need to know where he is on every play, but big loss for the commanders. But the other equalizers just Daniels and the way he moves, man. He's so cool and calm back there. Escaping the pocket is obviously 1 of the best things that he does. And then when he escapes up inside, taking off and going, You know, I decided we had that Thursday night game, but to look more at the last game that they played.

So I think Jaden Daniels was a little injured kind of in the middle of the season. I don't know if it was a rib or something, but it just looked like something was going on. So that last game, I just watched it again this morning, from week 16 was unbelievable. Obviously, 5 touchdown passes, but he ran for 81 yards as well. That's gonna be a huge factor in the game.

And then just confused at why the Eagles didn't run the ball more in the second half. You know, it just it was kind of a weird game plan after, Jalen Hurts went down. But, the commanders are gonna have to score a bunch of points to win this game, but the great thing about that is they're explosive, and they can. And they've showed it, and they've scored 40 pun points a bunch of times this year. They just did it versus Detroit.

Yeah. Is is, is Jalen Hurts good?

I think he's good. Good question.

But I Well There's sometimes where I I don't know. But I I I do if you ask me, come to your head. Like, I Jalen Hurts is good. But then sometimes I watch him. I'm like, wait.

Is he?

Yeah. I mean, you you know, you get in trouble for making quarterback there. I do all the time, especially now that I'm new to Twitter. Oh my god. The Eagles fans hate me.

I saw you did I I saw you got roasted for saying, Justin Herbert's a top 10 quarterback.

Yeah. I think I said he's a top 8, but not a top 5. He's not on the Mount Rushmore at the top 4 and oh my god. But it's also like then there's restraint of I don't I'm not gonna do a victory lap. I'm not rooting against the guy, and I hate that, you know, he had the playoff game that he had and they lost.

But but I with Jalen Hurts, I I go back to the game in the Super Bowl versus the Chiefs. Yep. He had 1 fumble, but other than that, he was lights out that whole game. On the biggest stage, he was unbelievable. I think they have struggled a little bit in the rhythm passing game.

I think, when he has to throw the ball over the middle and not to the outsides, that's where he struggles a little bit more, but he's an elite goalball thrower. He's got a great deep ball. They've obviously got 2 guys that can go and get it. But the addition of Saquon, you know, it just plays into the strengths of what he is as well. Like, Jalen Hertz is an elite runner, and, you know, he's we'll see what happens with his knee and how healthy he is when he comes out.

But Jalen Hurts is the perfect quarterback for that system

Right.

System they're in.

Yeah. So That's okay. That's I I like that answer because I I, again, I do think he's good. It's just there are times it's more, I guess, the Eagles' offense at times is like, what am I watching? Because I expect more because they have so so much talent everywhere between their offensive line and their, you know, outside guys in Saquon.

But there's there's guys there's quarterbacks, and I think we all know who they are. You know, we have our top 4 with Burrow, Allen, Mahomes, and Lamar. Jaden Daniels is now in this conversation. If you could pick them up and drop them in any situation in the NFL, and they're gonna be elite. Mhmm.

Mhmm. And then there's other guys that you could sprinkle around and put them in the right systems. And I think Tua is like that. I think Brock's like that. I think Jaylen's probably like that, where if you get them in the right spot, then they can be as good as anybody, but you can't necessarily pick them up and drop them in any situation

Mhmm.

And have them be elite.

I think that's fair answer.

Yeah. I think it's fair. People are gonna be very angry at you, though.

I'm gonna For for like, because I know I'm gonna get some.

If you put them in with with Tua and Brock Purdy, that's sending out a signal to his fans. Like, attack me, please.

Yeah.

Max, what are your thoughts? He those are good quarterbacks, Max.

No. I'm fine with what he just said.

I think I think that makes sense. He didn't say he's

a he's a the rest of the the rest of the media world right now is painting Jalen Hurst to be

the worst quarterback in the NFL.

So I think he's good.

There's never been a team that has more bulletin board material while also being the Super Bowl favorites in the Philadelphia.

Well, they're they're Super Bowl favorites not because they're the best like, they're not viewed as the best team.

What did I just say?

I know. But do you realize likely to make the Super

Bowl Chiefs and the Bills have to play each other. That's why the odds are the for the Eagles to

see each other.

And that

wouldn't that be giving bulletin board material to the Commanders? Correct.

Yeah. No. No. We should go around the next team. Just hold on a second, Ryan.

We're we're having a conversation over here. Hey. 1 Yeah. That's all me. I'm I don't know how many people I

don't know how many people have made this comparison, and I'll just dig myself a deeper hole. But what do you think about the Jalen Hertz and Russell Wilson, like a young Russell Wilson comparison?

Yeah. I don't hate that. Russell Wilson was good. Or he

was good. He was great.

Still, like, they're elite goalball throwers Yeah. Which are great down the field. They're also both very good runners, especially young Russ, and they win.

Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I

I like that. And I don't think

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Imagine if they didn't tush push? Yeah. That would be that would

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How do you, limit his big plays? Is it possible?

I I don't know that it's possible. I think you do go into this game saying, alright. The main focus is gonna be on Saquon, but that means you're gonna have 1 on ones on the outside. And like I just said, he's an elite goalball thrower, so with Devante Smith and AJ Brown on the outside, it makes it difficult. So it's a pick your poison type thing, but I would go into the game saying that.

I mean, you have to stop Saquon. That being said, you know, the other way you can bat that is you possess the ball. And when you have 4th and 6th or less, you go for it on offense, which is the formula that Washington has pretty much used all year in being really aggressive on 4th down. And then they've gotta light up the scoreboard. They know going into this game, this isn't going to be the same game that the Buffalo Kansas City game is.

That game is gonna be 24 to 23, 27 to 22, whatever it's gonna be. This 1 in order for Washington to win the game, they've gotta score 30 plus points and maybe 40 to win this game.

Yeah. I I've been doing a lot of reading about Jaden recently and, his use of virtual reality and how he started doing that at LSU. And so that's, like, a very important part of his prep at LSU. That's what kinda changed his whole momentum around was he started doing this virtual reality stuff for, like, 45 minutes, an hour, 3 days a week, where he would get reps in against a simulated defense. And it allowed him to see and and think a lot quicker when he was playing on Saturdays.

And the commander's invested in that same company, and now he's just, like, he's living in the metaverse 3 days a week. And by the time he hits the field on Sunday, he's ready to go. Have you tried using the virtual reality stuff?

I did. They started to incorporate it a little bit, into the NFL my last few years, and I didn't like it at all. Yeah. It just I think maybe it's just what he's grown up with. And but, yeah, it's obviously working and maybe I should have done it more.

But he also has that thing where if he doesn't like what he sees, he just takes off and runs and nobody can catch him, which is really effective too.

Yeah. Did you have that? That's a pretty good strategy. Yeah.

But he between between the way that he throws the deep ball and the way that he processes, I there's 1 play in particular in that last game. It's cover 0. He's got 2 guys free coming at him, And every quarterback in the league, you're taking the flat route. You're throwing it at your hot throw. You've got an unblocked guy.

He just takes 2 more steps back. The hot throw is covered, and then he finds Zach Ertz on a 7 route to the outside. He throws it 3 steps before Ertz is out of his break right in stride. And it's like, what planet is this guy from? You know, between the athleticism, his ability to throw it accurately, and now his ability to process the, you know, the calmness, the poise under pressure, it's it's unbelievable and something we haven't seen recently.

Yeah.

He's from the metaverse. Yeah.

I gotta ask you a question about, your Twitter account because and this was, like, a month ago, but I was heavily invested in, an ongoing saga that you had.

Oh, I was gonna ask the same question. Yeah. I'm happy you're bringing this up.

You you got a shot putt ball stuck in a golf hole, and you couldn't get it out. I guess my first question is why do

you have a shot putt ball?

Yeah. So it's the first time I got something stuck in a hole that I couldn't get it out. And, my brother lives next door, so his son is becoming a shotputter. Mhmm. And so his little shit 5 year old son brought the shot put ball over to our backyard and thought it'd be fun to get it in the hole.

It literally was the perfect size. It was the perfect size to where it couldn't have been any bigger and fit in there. There was nothing I could do. And I loved your suggestion, but I couldn't put any liquids in there because there's sand underneath the hole and it just would have dissipated underneath the hole. So it was an absolute saga that ended like you thought it would, which was brute force and just destroying the fake green in the hole and but it was a fun 2 hours.

I I loved it because it was, you know, Harvard guy, Fitzy, trying to use all the brainpower in the world, trying to problem solve this. And at the end of the day, sometimes something as simple as a ball getting stuck in a hole, you just have to you just have to be a man about it.

Well, that's why I was hoping Elon I was hoping Elon was gonna chime in, you know, like the submarine thing that he did and this whole SpaceX thing. I don't know what he would have suggested. My my 3 butter knives and 2 2 by fours and trying to wedge it out of there didn't work. I don't think my wife follows me on Twitter. I don't think she has an account, so she doesn't know that the 3 butter knives got broken

and are still missing. Yeah.

But it's gonna come up 1 day

for sure.

Now she she might be in AWL.

Yeah. She listens.

I I

would have just, I would have just covered up the hole, made a new hole somewhere else I've been like, that's it. Or sold that? Hole's done. Yeah. Yeah.

Like, we're we're done with that 1.

That that was my favorite suggestion that somebody may made was, like, when are you moving? Yeah. You know, why not just be?

Imagine imagine, like, the the real estate agent being like, this is an incredible house. Great. Got great bugs, but there's 1 thing we have to disclose before you sign. There's a shot put in the hole in the backyard. It's like, oh, I don't think so.

Yeah. We're not buying this 1.

I'll get the murder house down the street instead.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god. It was it was an incredible saga. Alright.

So, do you have do are you picking these games? Do you do you have I I know that you want the Bills. I mean, are we gonna get maybe a Ryan Fitzpatrick Super Bowl, Bills Commanders? That would be would you be the belle of the ball? Maybe do the Yeah.

The coin toss?

BFT, you know, a lot of the a lot of people are saying, you know, this is the most excitement they've had at quarterback in Washington since 2021.

Yep. I would agree. That game against the Dolphins, man. Who can forget? Yeah.

So so who

so, now you guys kinda taught me this. I have in my own podcast with Andrew Whitworth, and I just said that the Eagles were gonna win. But on here, I could can I say the Commander wins so then you can play both takes?

Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Good. So I think the Bills are gonna win, and let's go with the Commanders. Those Commanders in the Super Bowl.

I love that. That was that's a really that's a really good call. Good pick. Okay.

Yeah.

Well, there you go. Yeah.

Another question about the the Chiefs Bills game. What is there anything that Sean McDermott can do this week leading up to it where he's like because you don't wanna play tentative, but we obviously saw what happened with the Texans where they're gonna call those flags. Or do you think maybe the NFL's like, man, we can't have these flags again, so we're gonna we're we're gonna make sure that, this game doesn't have another controversial call with Patrick Mahomes sliding or or running out of bounds late? Like, how how is that gonna play out in your head?

Well, that so it was really funny. The the second personal foul, Patrick Mahomes, when he kinda danced around and went down and got crunched by the 2 guys, I'm I'm complaining like, oh my I can't believe he did that. He's baiting him into getting the flag, and and then my buddy next to me was like, yeah. But Josh does that sometimes too.

True. True.

But, you know, they both these guys have learned how to weaponize that a little bit, which you try to try to take that out of the game in the off season. But who do you know who the crew is that's it's either Hockley or Clint Bladman

for the AFC.

Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, the the good thing is these are the best of the best. So Clete and his crew, they do a great job. They're obviously you know, you go into the game and as a head coach, you have a list of things you tell the refs beforehand.

They're gonna say, hey. Their tackles leave early. You know, Patrick Mahomes isn't running out of bounds. You'll have that checklist of things that you're gonna say, we wanna alert you to these and vice versa. They'll do the same thing, with the bills, but we gotta just hope for the best.

You know? These are the best crews that we have. These guys both, Hockley on the other side, other than being very long winded and liking Blake Blakeman are both very good at what they do.

So

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I we just want I just want the game to not have any of that bullshit. And

if it does, I hope it has it equally on both sides. I hope that they they officiate the same way for Josh as they do for Patrick. And in that event, you can just be like, well, it washed out.

Yeah. And the, speaking of, you know, calls, the last time the Commanders and the Eagles played, Lattimore, was it, like, 3 pass interferences on AJ Brown?

Yep.

I mean, he had it just kept happening. So, hopefully, that ends up a little bit better for him this time too.

He did look a lot better last week. He he was a big part of that defense and they were able to limit some of the the big plays to the lines. So I I I like the commander's secondary in a shocking twist, as the season has progressed. I love Mikey Sander still, and Marshawn Lattimore is playing a lot better, and Jeremy Chan is back there just hitting the fuck out of people. So Yeah.

He is. So I'm I'm okay with where we're at. I never thought we'd be a great defense this year. I just want us to be kinda middle of the road, and I think we've we've officially reached that tier.

So Well

I'm okay with

And if you're middle of the road on defense, you gotta create turnovers. Right? You got to you got to have some big plays because even, you know, going back to the Buffalo game this last weekend, their defense played good. They didn't play great, but they got 3 turnovers,

you

know, and that was the huge difference in the game. So it's like you think back to the Mark Andrews had a catch. He was wide open. Nobody was near him. And then, you know, they're driving down to score, but Trell Bernard comes and punches that ball out.

So opportunistic, you know, that's gonna be the big word for these defenses because I would say Kansas City and Philly probably have the 2 best defenses that are left, but the Bills have been very opportunistic this year in the way they force turnovers, and Washington's gonna need the same thing versus Philly this weekend.

Yep. I I had 1 more question for you about the Bills because you you danced around the NFL a little bit. You had a lot of flings. You had a lot of, 1 night stands in the NFL. But the Bills, they were like your long term relationship, and you settled in nicely there.

They paid you a good amount of money. That must have been pretty cool. But it feels like the Bills fans have a different place in your heart from everybody else in the NFL. What was the moment where you realized that Bills fans are different and you really like this place?

Well, I'll say my favorite moment as a bill, was 2011, which was my 3rd year there. And early in the season, we beat the patriots at home. And that was when I think people on the team that were new really understood, like, what the mafia is and how much football means to them because we didn't beat the patriots in forever. It had been forever. Tom Brady obviously owned the Bills, owned the division forever.

And the appreciation after that game and the tears and the joy from all the fans, that was a moment that I'll never forget where it was like, alright. I can mess with these guys.

Mhmm.

Like, this is this is these are my dudes. These are my people. And there's also just, you know, flying back there, for Sunday. It's like the weather is shitty. You know?

You don't know if it's gonna snow 2 feet or 2 inches. The wind's blowing. It's cold, but everybody's out there in the parking lot with a smile on their face because they live for Bills football, and the Bills went 10 and o at home this year. Yeah. So they rewarded them with a great season.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's the best. We've we've made a couple trips obviously to Buffalo, and and we love Josh. And and their their fan base is is it's just the the, like, the passion and pride in in Buffalo.

It's it's really cool to see. And they're they're also, like if you if you just laid out, like, what fan base likes to drink beer and eat wings and Oh my god. And, like, fart in their Zubas Mhmm. That, you know, that's it's a good life. It's a good life.

Do you

guys see the belt in the background here?

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

So this guy was in our section. He came over. I had my 3 boys with me, 17, 16, and 5, and he's, like, fallen over. He'd dress like macho man Randy Savage, and he gave my 5 year old that belt, and he was so excited. And then later, he came 1 of his buddies came back because I think he was fairly inebriated, and he was like, hey.

Can my friend have his belt back? And I was like, hey.

I'm sorry. My 5 year

old was clutching it. He slept with it last night.

You

know? I'm like, look. I can get you another belt, but I don't think we're gonna get it away from him. You gave it to him.

Yeah. You can't. You're taking taking that away from a 5 year old at a game is, like, you just basically should just get back in the car because you're going home anyway. Like, that would be meltdown city. Alright.

So, Ryan, I got 1 last question. It's a Rhoback question. Rhoback.com, promo code take, Rhoback dot com, promo code take, cuzips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, Rhoback.com, promo code take. So you mentioned you everyone should go listen to your podcast with, Andrew Whitworth. How has it been, year into, you know or or a season into podcasting?

Do you have a newfound respect for guys like us who've been in the in the podcast minds for a decade plus now?

I do. I'd love to pick your brain at some point. We haven't had any guests yet. We we've just kinda I I think it's been easier because Thursday night football, you know, talking about our adventures, talking about all these games. As soon as the season ends, we're gonna be in a dark place.

I don't know what to talk about. We're

not interesting.

I mean but I guess the season, you know, football lives on throughout the year, but it's been a lot of fun. I've enjoyed I was hesitant for a while, but I think I found the right guy in wit. Yeah. We're we're best buddies. He's such an impressive dude.

You know, very thoughtful, very insightful, and then, you know, I just enjoy hanging out with him. He's a family guy. He's got 4 kids. I've got 7. So that part of it's been really fun too.

7 kids. Yeah. You've gotten things stuck in holes before.

Yeah. Cool.

Yeah. Yeah. 7 different women too, which is not a good, what's Just kidding. Just kidding. Love your lies.

Love your lies.

Yeah. Everyone everyone do listen to Fitz and Wit. You can listen anywhere. What what is last question. What is the, amount of kids where, like, it becomes enough where they can just fend for themselves?

Because I I have 3, and I feel like 3 is a a bad number where it's like they're they all are relying on me, and I don't have enough of an age difference where, like, the oldest can just take care of the youngest.

Yeah. And then it depends too, like, if your oldest is a boy or a girl. Mhmm. Because, you know, a like, right, a 17 year old boy is not as good as an 11 year old girl in terms of taking care of the younger kids. Right?

I mean, the boys are are selfish. They're into their cell phones and their friends and sports and farting in their Zubaz,

like you

said. Yep. So I think for us, once we get that to 4, that that was a pretty good number. But, really, when we made the decision to go from 6 to 7, that's when you don't fit in a car anymore, and you've gotta go with, like, a weird, kids actually call our van the kidnapper van. So when you've gotta go, it's like the weird kidnapper van when you have, you know, 12 seats, and you can kinda bring all their friends to the soccer games and basketball games.

That's where we're at right now.

That's crazy.

You've become a nonprofit organization. Yeah. It's Yeah.

You're you're you're doing church meetups. Like, you you know, going and picking people up.

Yeah. In Jehovah's Witnesses. We do have we do have 2 drivers now. So now we're in a whole

birthday party, whatever it is. Uh-huh. Yeah. Okay.

And and to the point about the podcast, I think what you're doing, it's not not having guests might be a good thing for you guys because the listeners wanna hear the relationship develop between you, and then they then they get like, they feel like they're, they're part of, you know, a little family. And then you can slowly add on guests after that, you know, in the off season. Some Sometimes Okay. Cool. In May, June, there's not a lot to talk about.

Then then you start mixing in guests as a as a treat. But yeah. No. Your podcast is great, and I I love watching. I love listening to it.

So congratulations.

Yeah. Thank you. Hey. Do you know do you know who the long snapper for the Commanders is?

The long snapper for the Commanders

is I hate to put you on the spot like this, but

It's not Cheeseman. It used to be Cheeseman.

Used to be Cheeseman. Yeah. He's gone. He was there when I was there, but Tyler Ott.

Okay.

Do you know where he went to college? I do not.

Harvard. Harvard. We got a Harvard boy snapping long too.

That's why you guys have the advantage. Yeah.

Okay. That's huge. That's huge.

The snaps have been really good this year. I They've been But if you

don't if you don't go his name, that means they've been great.

Yeah. Great. I just jinxed it right there. I should've

said that.

They did. Point for Max. Yeah. Point for Max. Alright.

Well, Ryan, thank you so much for coming on, man. We love love having you on. And, hopefully, maybe we see you in New Orleans. We'll be there for the whole week, so we gotta catch up.

Alright. We'll see you there. Alright. Thanks, guys.

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Okay. Before we get to Stavie, just a quick, note. The first 8 minutes of the, interview, not the best audio. It comes in fine. We we cleaned it up.

Riverside, which we use all the time, which shout out to people at Riverside, usually, no issues. We had a little bit issue here. It gets better after 8 minutes, but it's still, Max and everyone on the team cleaned up the first 8 minutes. So it should be good, but just wanted to note that. It does get better 8 minutes in, and it's Stoffy, baby.

Alright. Here he is. Okay. We now welcome on our very, very good friend. It is, Stavros Halkias, Stavibaby.

You can listen to him on Stavys World. You could see his comedy. He's on tour. He's got a new movie. But his Baltimore Ravens lost again in the playoffs.

And I love you, Stav, and I didn't want to ask. I waited 24 hours, but it was your appearance last year after they lost in the AFC championship game was so goddamn funny, and our fans loved it so much. Fuck you, dude. Fuck you, Shut the fuck up. Okay.

I I'm sorry.

But but No. Alright. Alright. You're right. You're right.

It's eating, you motherfucker.

How are you doing?

Wait. Hold on a second. I'm in fucking Chicago. I'm like, hey, gosh. I gotta fucking move it now.

Can I do the fucking show? I don't hear. Hey. We could fucking put you on aimless. I get a my fucking team loses.

I go through water break. I immediately get a fucking text, you pieces of shit. Fuck you guys.

That's not fully true. Fuck you. You said you were gonna come back to do PMT.

Fuck you. Shut the fuck up. I know what you what you fucking motherfuckers want.

Okay. Stavie, when I saw you, I went first of all, I went to your movie, which was very, very funny. Good thing

you did. Thank you.

Appreciate the invite.

I see.

Did. And we agreed afterwards. Next time you're in town, let's get you on PMT. Okay. The schedule the schedule didn't match up.

Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm mad, and I'm taking it out on you.

Okay. So how are you feeling?

Bad, big cat.

Okay. Let's talk it out. Am I am I

I mean, sorry. Am I echoing? Is something weird happening?

The mic's cutting out just, like, a little bit.

Cutting out a little bit, but I think because it's Riverside, it'll be fine. We we got back.

Yeah. I think he's just he's just peeking.

So Oh, you're just peeking because you're yelling too much. Alright. So okay. So let's talk it out. I mean, that sucked.

That sucked.

Yes. It did. It was fucking brutal. It was like I don't fucking know, dude. I don't even know what to fucking say.

So at the end of the month, they're gonna do the NFL honor ceremony. Lamar Jackson might get another MVP. Is that gonna feel good at all for you to watch that?

I'm not 1 of these motherfuckers that thinks Lamar was the problem at all. Look. That fucking interception was a duck. That was crazy. He fucking threw a quarter of his interceptions in this fucking game.

He was fucking awesome, and he throws, like, a no disrespect Jameis Kyle interception, where it's like, who the fuck was he even throwing to? That like, I thought I was having a stroke. The fucking build guy just caught it like he was fair catching. Yep. I couldn't believe that.

But it's like, okay. He got that shit out of his system, whatever. He comes back. When it fucking matters hey. Look.

It's slippery. What are the what do you want from those fucking guys? From Florida. He doesn't know the fucking snow. You've seen his fucking high school highlights.

It's humid, but it's not cold. The fucking ball flip that I was saying. Okay. And then at the fucking end, he takes them down. We get the touchdown, throws it to Andrews, and I feel bad for Andrews too because he's fucking good.

But that's a tough 1, man. You do have to catch that 1, plus the fumble. Again, I feel bad for him, but it's like, this what? 3 fucking turnover, and we couldn't we were in that game. That was he didn't play bad.

Yeah.

And and then the fucking why the fuck did we throw the ball? And when we were we fucked 1st and goal? Why the fuck did we run it 4 times? Are all the whole well, that's the kind of fucking team we are. We have fucking Derrick Henry.

What the fuck did we bring Derrick Henry in 4 if we're fucking goal line, and they're

not gonna throw him the fucking ball? Can Can somebody explain that to me?

I mean, it's the only time in my life that was Greg Roman was our fucking offensive coordinator. That fucking you know that cocksucker would have ran it 4 times. He doesn't even know how to pass this playbook, but Todd Monken got fucking cute. When we at least eat it, you fuck.

Yeah.

Why didn't you just and then if you score that touchdown, whole different fucking game. Whole different fucking game. Dude. I don't fuck. It was just like

It was bad.

I keep I keep, like it's we were good. We didn't even get the. We were fucking good. And where the fuck was the when we're playing Pittsburgh, I feel like every play, TJ TJ Watts tackling a fucking running back that we tricked those dumbasses into thinking he was gonna get the ball. And then Lamar where the fuck was that?

We've that's our stupid power. That's what makes Lamar as, like, even better than the best than Josh Allen, for example, which, like, yeah, he can throw the ball. You think he can run. But, also, these motherfuckers don't even know how to defend against a run defense. Where the fuck did that go?

I didn't see now maybe I missed it. You guys are more fucking you guys have the keen eyes that I don't. I don't you guys are bigger football guys than me. I am a football guy, but I'm not I don't watch fucking matching or whatever the fuck. So maybe I miss 1 of the fucking plays.

First of all, you are a football guy. Don't ever don't ever put yourself down like that. I don't like that.

We needed that.

Thank

you. The Lamar thing is tough because he has he is so goddamn good in the regular season that everyone expects that in the playoffs, and he has not played at the so goddamn good level in the playoffs. So it's like it's his own it's his own doing that everyone expects this level of, like, otherworldly quarterback play. And the 2 the 2 turnovers, I mean, that fumble was huge. Mark Andrews' fumble was was the was the was the thing that changed the whole game.

But I I don't know. I mean, I guess I would to to try to cheer you like, you're still a good team, and you gotta just go back at it. Right?

Yeah. I guess. And look. I know the yes. That fumble was fucking huge and but that is the exact reason Lamar can't have 2 turnovers.

Because as the as the fucking leader, your boys are gonna fuck up. Right? And you're the 1 who has to make up for that. I get that. And you're right.

Never played to the standard that he plays when we're when we're beating no. Whatever. That game we beat Cincinnati with him and Joe Burrow doing that duel. He didn't play to that. I get that.

To, you know, to suck PFT stock. He didn't play as good as as a rookie. You know what I mean? Like, Jane, it's tough to even be like, that's the tough counterargument, and I hate how happy it's gonna make you, where it's like, Lamar is the man, but some a fucking rookie with his skill set, not as good a player yet, if ever, probably not as good, but, like, had the fucking mentality to just and he wasn't whatever. He's playing a fucking dome, actually.

He's trying

to fuck you, P. F.

It was the elements that got to him.

I love that. I love that, Stav. You were a second away from giving and you're like, no. No. I'm not I'm not wrong.

You're wrong. Fuck you.

Yeah. Yeah. If you was just if we were in a fucking dome, a whole different ballgame, BFT. Fuck you. But this is the exact conversation we're having about Peyton Manning.

Yes. Would you rather have him come Brady? Sure. But a cool Pete Manning that fucking makes guys miss and is electrifying, and I still have to watch football every week. That's that's how you know it's a bad loss because I'm fucking Buddhist now.

I'm like and it's got me thinking about, well, I'd rather be them than you, for example, big cats.

You know? Yes.

Now I'm moving against you. Now I'm like, fuck Ben Johnson. I'm like, everything's gonna go bad for everybody else. Fraud. Too many fucking flea flickers.

Enjoy that fucking pixie's gonna throw up. Caleb's gonna fucking throw next year. Fuck you guys. Fuck. How the fuck do we lose?

And, like, and, like, the ugh.

And what you didn't lose to the Chiefs. That's a little bit of a solace.

Not if the win the fucking Super Bowl.

I know.

I know. Yeah. So are you gonna be rooting for the Bills this weekend?

That's the hard thing because I have a lot of friends who are Bills fans. It's a fat city. Okay. I'm rooting maliciously against this the Kansas City Chiefs, and I am rooting there's no malice with the Bills. It is like a I I like Buffalo in the NFC.

I could give a fuck. I mean, you know, whatever. Who cares? Whoever it is, beat the fucking I don't know. Just beat whoever does it beats the Chiefs.

Yeah. Yeah. It it sucks. Every time it won't be as bad as last year. Last year destroyed me.

Yeah.

I was fucking, like I mean, literally, after the Super Bowl here's what a what a bender I went on. I mean, you have proof of it. I've been sober since the Super Bowl. After that bender, I was like, what am I doing with my life? I have not smoked weed, drank, taken pills, nothing, because I was so depressed after the Ravens lost to the Chiefs.

So it literally put me into sobriety. That loss fucked me up so bad. I watched it. I was in Baltimore. I had to watch stupid fucking red confetti fall on M and T Bank Stadium.

It sucked dick. So on some level, nothing is as devastating as that. Yeah. Especially, like, we're away from the Super Bowl, but, like, fuck, dude. We were so good.

Yeah.

Our offense was so fucking and then the defense, we just, you know, took some while to fucking come around. We were looking pretty good. There's you know, a couple guys will get fucking torched every once in a while. But for the most part, you know, shout out to fucking Zach Orie. He's he's figured this shit out.

He's cool. I like our I like our guys. I do. But then I'm also, you know, salary cap, I haven't looked into it. I'm a team never stays good this long.

I'm sure we're in for some bullshit departure. And we're a good organization. I get it. Whatever. But fuck, dude.

You know how it is. You gotta win. If you have if you're if you're this good a team, you gotta fucking win. And I'm happy to have Lamar for the rest. I don't want him ever going anywhere.

Don't get me wrong. And we will be good as long as we have him, but fuck. Every 12 years, that's the pact we signed with Satan. It's the perfect amount.

It is.

Every 12th. 6th grade. I was in 6th grade. I was 25. It's like it's the perfect space out, bro.

It is. Yeah. It is. Because it's like that's enough time where you're wanting more. It's a new it's a new team.

You're like, oh, this could

When you were doing your numerology, did you ever take into account the fact that it's it's only happened twice, so it's not really that much of a pattern? It just happened twice before.

As it happened only twice, but it's happened but how long has the fucking Ravens been a franchise? It's pretty quick after that, you fuck.

Yeah. I'm just saying it's only like, if it was 3 times, then you could say, yeah. It's it's every 12 years.

I think it was the 28 year old quarterback thing. Yeah. The 28 year quarterback thing was what I because I saw that stat, and I was like, woah. This is real.

It was 2 pieces of numerology. Thank you, big cats.

I got you.

Fucking statistics over there, PFT.

Fuck you. I'm just I'm just saying, like, this that any team that won 2 Super Bowls, you could be like, yeah.

Or if

you're a Cubs fan, you could be

like, yeah. The Cubs win a world series every 102 years or whatever the fuck it was.

2 2 pieces of numerology. Yeah. I'll order 2. I'll

How do you feel about about Harbaugh now?

I mean, I ride with Harbaugh, but it is a little, like because here's the real shit. We shouldn't have been playing in fucking Buffalo.

I know.

Why the fuck did we lose to the Raiders? I mean I mean, you look through our fucking schedule. It's like, what the fuck, man? Like, why were we penal I mean, look, the first game hey. Remember that lining up away from the fucking center call that we got 15 fucking times opening night?

Did you see that call fucking once after that? I mean, these motherfuckers they was literally, like, make up a rule so the Ravens lose to the fucking Chiefs. I didn't see that shit all season called on the Ravens. It happened only opening night. Whatever.

We'll take that 1 aside. But it's like we were a fucking penalized team. Weirdly, it's shit that's, like, poorly coached shit, where it's like, why are we beating ourselves? Why do we almost lose to the fucking shitty cowboys? Why the fuck did we like, why why are we not ready to play?

And our defense like, you could blame it on new coordinator. You know, it was hard to lose it was hard to lose fucking McDonald, but, like, by the end of the season, we'd figure that out. Yeah. We figured our defense out. It was all the early it was not the defensive coordinator.

The new defensive coordinator was the problem. It was overall coaching shit, and I do love Harbaugh. I do I but it is like it's not he's not he's in no way is he on a hot seat, but it's like, it ain't cold no more. You know what I mean? It's like, let's now I think I took out the thermometer.

I'm looking at thermometers on Amazon. I haven't even bought it yet, but it's like if I need at some point to see the temperature of his seat, I'm at least seeing what the best I'm reading reviews on the best thermometer to see how hot the seat is. So we're very far away, but it is poorly coached shit. It is like, why the fuck are we this is the whole point of a, like, doesn't call plays, doesn't do shit. He's like a fucking he's that traditional old school, I'm just managing everything coach.

And it's like, well, how the fuck do we lose a lot of games because of penalties if that's the fucking case?

Yeah. You know what

I mean? And it's like, if we're at home, I don't think we lose that game. Who knows about next week? Right? Whatever.

But I don't think we fucking lose at home, honestly.

You gotta become just a full time dome guy. Like, what's the league doing allowing Buffalo to build a stadium? It's dangerous. It gets so cold up there in the snow.

I and I have that's another thing. That's how bad this loss was where I'm like, we're playing outside? What is this? The fucking 19 tens? What the fuck are we doing?

Let's oh, let's play the NBA finals on a fucking blacktop next year. Like, it's not me it's got me being like, it's crazy to have snow games. What are we talking about? The elements can't makes that much of a fucking can't make that much of a fucking, you know, can't fuck the outcome up. Even though that's crazy, snow football is cool.

But it's got me considering shit like that.

Yeah. You're changing your your world. Alright. So listen. It sucked.

Let's think positives. 1, I wanna say here and now, because I believe that Lamar will win a Super Bowl at some point.

Think so too.

Thank you. I think he will win a Super Bowl at some point. This is just it it's been shitty, but, like, he's too good. I just think he won a Super Bowl. When he wins a Super Bowl, I'm not saying if.

When he wins a Super Bowl for the Ravens, you will be our Monday guest that right after the Super Bowl. You deserve that. You will get

to Thank you.

You will get to even if they go to a Super Bowl, you'll be we'll have you on after the championship's on, round. Also, you're crushing it in life. Like, you made a movie. Your podcast is huge. Your stand up is huge.

Like, you got it all right now. You're probably getting mad bitches.

Yeah. I suppose big cat, but you know how it goes, man.

Yeah. No. It sucks. There's nothing worse. The week after a bad loss, it's just like you you start to question why you you start to look at the rest of your life, and you're like, I have so much shit going for me.

Why do I put so much into a game? I know. And here's

the other thing. That the reason I say I'm not a hue as big a football guy is, like because there was moments in my life where I was like, I you know, do I have to watch this every Sunday? Like, who cares? Like and then Lamar gets drafted, and it was like I was back in harder than I've ever fucking been. I was like, I couldn't believe he fell to us.

It's really and it's like, why? Why, you motherfucker? Why couldn't we have drafted fucking Mitch Trubisky? You know what I mean? Then I'd be fine.

Then I'd be I'd be on I'd be having good times on Sunday. I'd be fucking at brunch with my pals. I wouldn't give a fuck. But I'm back in because I love Lamar so much. And it's hard, man.

I wanna be free, big cap, but I don't I I don't think I ever will be.

Yeah.

I don't think I ever will be, and I do want to.

Yeah.

I do want to not be a fan of anything. Yeah. But, unfortunately, this bullshit makes me so sad.

I know. I think about that. Like like, how cool it would be to just be, like, watch the Super Bowl, like, turn it on and just be like, oh, this is cool. First time I'm seeing these 2 teams this year. Yeah.

Be

the guy that doesn't know the rule changes at the Super Bowl?

Yeah. Everyone else explains it to you. Yeah. Oh, is that is that Patrick Mahal? He's won a couple of these.

Right? Like, shit like that. It'd be nice. Yeah.

Be like, guys, turn the volume up. There's a Doritos commercial.

Shout out to Doritos, Our sponsor.

Yeah. Become a become a sports, sports ball guy. Yeah. Oh, the gay oh, the sports is on TV.

Yeah.

And then just look down your nose at everybody.

Yeah. Yeah. It would be nice.

I'm sorry, Savi. It it breaks my heart to see

you in the I am happy for you. That was awesome.

Yeah. It's it's cool, but I I understand what you're saying. Like, if you're if you're looking at the Eagles and the Commanders, you probably do wanna see the Eagles win because you don't wanna see my Lamar get to Super Bowl.

Yeah. You you just copied. You copied

me, dude.

You you're on Lamar? That's bullshit. Yeah. You copy and paste it to Lamar. Bullshit, dude.

Fuck you. No. I don't know. And it's it's also, like, it's also the DC thing with Baltimore where it's, like, DC is a bunch of fucking I know you're from Virginia, but DC is a bunch of fucking nerds. It's a bunch of fucking losers that wanna be in politics.

It's, like, every s every, like, student government president, tattletale lanyard wearing motherfucker is a DC fan. That's that town sucks, dick. You know, that's where they did pizza you know, it's like where billionaires molest children with the president, and it's like, I gotta watch that team fucking win. I can watch that team fucking win. You know?

And Philly, at least, is like they are our white trash cousin. There's so much similarity to Philadelphia and Baltimore that it's like I don't know. There's a little part of me is like, it woulda hurt me to have to face Philly in the fuck it's like a battle of of it's like the civil war. It would have been a battle of brothers.

The Hatfield and McCoys.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, anyway, who knows, man? I just I can't have the fucking Chiefs win, and they will.

They fucking will, man, because that's how the world works. Because we're in a time where evil prevails. Everything is going bad. Fucking Mark Zuckerberg's on TRT stealing all our fucking information as we fucking speak. They're rolling back civil rights shit.

The fucking the fucking chiefs are gonna win again. We're fucked, dude. Nothing good is ever gonna come. We gotta we gotta hope for, like, president Travis fucking Travis whatever the fuck the Kelsey Kel Travis Kelsey junior. The only way we'll fucking have him yeah.

He'll be present him and Taylor Swift's son will be elected god god emperor of America in fucking 30 5 years, dude.

Oh. Yeah. Well, Savvy, I mean, I I wanna tell you that it gets better. You're at least you have your health. Look what a better place

you are right now. They're still good.

Were still good, but this is tough. 2 coming off these 2 back to back

I know.

That's the tough thing is, like, we are good, and that's what that's what the we are still you know what this is like? It's like you have the best girlfriend of all time. Everything's great, and she just gets drunk, sucks 1 guy off. I can get past it. I can get past it because everything else is perfect, and it was maybe a 1 time thing.

But when I'm dark when it's dark and I'm in my room alone, I'm imagining her sucking that guy's dick. You know what I mean? And that's what this was. The fumble is sucking a guy's dick. The drop is sucking a guy's dick.

Not running for it on fucking second and goal is sucking a guy's dick. And I have to think about that even though I love my wife, the Ravens. She's fucked the guy's cock in Cabo, and I have to fucking live with that. And you know what's that? You did it 2 years

in a row.

And I'm and it's on thin ice now now that I think about it.

And next year, you're gonna be going back to Cabo, and you're like, goddamn it. Oh. We win.

We have

to win.

Yeah. I can't let her out of my sights.

Next year, like, I guess we're just swooping. We're just swingers now.

He's got a he's got a gun.

Next year, it's gonna go bad.

I was actually saying, on the yak earlier, you know how they're they're flagging gun celebrations? Gotta do it. You know how they, they flag gun celebrations now in in college, the NFL?

Yeah.

Would they have flagged Mark Andrews after he dropped the ball if he took out a fake gun and shot himself?

That would have been awesome.

If he just unloaded the clip in his own head, like, could do you flag that or you're just like, alright. Fair play, man.

It's not taunting. Yeah. Unless you're including, like, how the trauma that the defense would go through watching you shoot yourself.

Yeah. I wanna see someone do it. I wanna see someone do it.

That would be good. Like, a kicker missed a big kick. You just, like, oh.

A shotgun in the mouth. His his holder takes out the shotgun and hands it to him.

He just commits seppuku. Yeah.

Oh, man.

That would be awesome.

Alright. Well, Stave, I got 1 last question for you. Thank you though for coming on. You are you are a hero. I did wait 24 hours.

I You did. You did. I appreciate that. Did turn to PFT in the gambling cave as the game was ending, and I was like, I think I'm gonna text Stave. And I was like, but I'm gonna wait 24 hours.

So I did wait 24 hours.

Appreciate that. And you know what? You waited 24 hours, but it's like, in my mind, you text me the moment the game ends.

Yeah. Yeah.

But, it has been so painful.

But, alright. So Rhoback question, rhopack.com. Promocode take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, jocks, shorts. I'm still laughing about you taking out a gun there.

Alright. Let's talk positive. What do you got going on? You're coming to Chicago in April, so we'll see you.

Chicago. I want you guys to be there. Yeah. Chicago theater, please come out. Yeah.

I have a huge tour coming out, the the dream boat tour. It's, like, over 40 cities. We're doing a tour bus. It's gonna be a big a big time tour. I'm very excited about that.

Please buy tickets to see me. I won't kill myself if some of those if those shows sell out. And, yeah, that's I mean, it's the tour. The movie, Let's Start A Cult, is available on demand, and we're working to get it on Hulu pretty soon. And, yes, Stavvy's World.

It really I really want people to see the to come see me live. You know, it'll it it's a good show. It's a really it's a fun show. I promise. And, yeah, watch the movie.

We have we have the the, the podcast. That's that's pretty much it, man. I'm gearing up for basically 3 months of being on the road. It's gonna be it's gonna be really fucking fun.

The torso, April 18th, he's gonna be in Madison, and then he's coming down to Chicago April 19th. 2 shows at Chicago Theater. I might just invite myself to go up to Madison, see you there, and then hop on the bus with you. Dude. That'd be fun.

You're

welcome. You're welcome to do that. Yeah. Absolutely.

Yeah.

We would love to have you.

Yeah. We'll definitely, yeah, we'll we'll be on Chicago. Buy tickets. See the movie. If you wanna see Stave's balls, see this movie.

You do. There's there is plenty of nudity mean my nudity on that motherfucker for sure.

Yeah.

Yeah. So yeah. That's it. So go to Stavey dotbiz for the rest of the dates. That's Chicago and Madison, but I start February 21st in in, like, Sacramento, and then we we end or we end May 11th in or May 12th in DC.

So it's literally like we're doing the West Coast, the South, the Midwest, and then, we're gonna come back and hit more of the East Coast in the fall. But, yeah, Stave.biz. That's pretty much it. Yeah. Thanks, guys.

Yeah. I actually do feel better

Good.

Having spoken to you, getting it out for real. At least it wasn't festering for 2 weeks. Because I last last year, I really was depressed for 2 straight weeks.

Yeah. That was bad because it's Vegas and everything. Super Bowl is just and just to to put a bow on it, we Stave did when he came here last time, he was like, I'm gonna be back in a week, so I'll come on p

I know. I know. I'm just talking to you. I'm talking

to you.

But

So I was like, I remember. I was like, fuck. Did we?

No. No. No. No. No.

No. By the way, those guys are funny. Yeah. No shots at them. It was just you know?

Of course, I get the quick we can move some shit around when the Ravens lose. That's all.

I did say I did shit about when the Ravens lose. My text to him was literally, like, hey. Can you come on tomorrow? We can do any time.

I know. I last minute even said I moved it 2 hours just to see how open you really were. That's like And you're like, no problem, man. We'll figure it out.

We got it, dude. We also couldn't talk until midnight.

We could've talked about anything on this podcast. We weren't necessarily just gonna talk about the Ravens.

Yeah. You started talking about the Ravens. We didn't even wanna bring in this

big space. You just want it had just been too long.

Yeah. Fuck that guy. Alright. We love you, man. Thank you so much.

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in your take, does everybody know what season it is? Season of love. Season of love? Soup season. Soup season?

Well, yes. Basketball? Basketball, soup season. I'll take those answers. That's right.

But it's also tax season, which we all know Hank is not a fan of. How are you feeling about that, Hank?

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Love it. Love it. Alright. Pardon your take time.

Hank. Yeah. If everyone's memories were erased and all sports were introduced to the world in the Olympics, what do you think would be the new most popular sport in the world?

Football. Oh, good question. I I I wanna say football.

But it's gonna be flag football. Right?

Yep. Maybe flag football. But that

guy's better than Patrick Mahomes. That 57 quarterback we have.

Like, monster trucks would be pretty sick. Like basketball.

Why? Just athletic.

Yeah. But football rocks.

It's hard to it's hard Football does not rock in the Olympics. Honestly, the question is is your memory is gonna race in your first exposure Yeah.

Sports is the Olympics. I see Olympics. I think the answer for somebody that's never seen sports before would be boxing.

You're boxing.

You'd be like, holy shit. These guys are just beating the fuck out of each other.

Yeah. Boxing would be pretty sick.

Boxing, basketball,

a 100 meter dash? I don't know. The Olympics are kinda boring if you thought, like, that was the only sports you had. Speed walking? They got rid of it.

That Yeah. That's electric.

Great dancing? Yeah.

If we did Great dancing.

Great dancing. But if we did it right now, speed walking is the funniest by far. Rugby rugby be up there. Rugby? Because it would be.

I mean, if you're saying football, I'd be Yeah.

Yeah. Because it's not flag rugby. It's it's full on rugby.

Yeah. Hockey, if we did Winter Olympics, hockey would be be enormous. Because I think it would still it would be less about the individual sports be team sports. People would still wanna get behind that.

I think if they use real swords, fencing.

Yep. Yep. Or if they use guns for, like, duels and stuff. I know they shoot targets. That would be pretty cool.

Yeah. Oh, ski jumping. That shit's wild. Mhmm. When I watch that, I it blows my mind every time.

I feel like people would be pretty into ski jumping. It's just being, like, how far because, like, the premise of ski jumping is is cool in its own right. Like, it's it's, almost like a activity you would do when you're 7 years old in terms of, like, how how high can I go off this, jump with my bike except for ski? So I I feel like ski jumping would have a good run.

It's also just an insane sport because you you should die Yeah. If you jump that far and skis off a mountain. Correct.

Not so much as a take, but more of a question. I didn't write this, by the way. Where the fuck do Philly fans get off acting like they're in the sports mecca of the world? Max is able to talk trash with all confidence. A baseball team that has been around a 100 years with 2 world series wins, the last 1 16 years ago, a basketball team who hasn't won since the eighties, and a football team that's won once since the merger.

He wants to talk about winners. Billy is the best team at being second. They're the most prideful, obnoxious fans who literally have dick to show for it. So, seriously, where does he get off?

When have I ever said that I'm a winner? I wanna

Didn't you call, Philly

the city of champions? City of champions load.

That that was, what, 5 years ago? No. I said loading.

Loading. Did you just write this? I I

I am a loser. How many times do I have to come on this fucking show and tell every person who's listening that I'm a fucking loser? Hank, just 2 weeks ago, you were just yelling at me because I'm talking like

a loser.

You you said the question like you wrote the question.

I I know he specifically said

I did not write this question.

That's a fact. He did say that.

But he didn't mean it.

Not that Max, this week, we're winners. This week, we're winners. This week, we're gonna fucking run the ball up PFT's dick hole.

Let's have yeah. Yeah. Have a good week, Max. I mean, Nova last night.

Shut up. Yeah. What happened? You guys beat DC. Right?

You lost to Georgetown. Oh, no. It's 9 point favorites. In Washington. Yeah.

Didn't score

for the last 5 minutes of the game.

So, I mean, I do respect Philly sports fans because they care this much. Correct. That's what I I I I hate them when I play them. I do not want to go into the link as an opposing fan. That's what sports should be.

The clip of the link They do a good job.

The clip of the link, the guys in the top row, the link celebrating after the Saquon run with the snow coming down is, like, that is pure sports ecstasy. Like, that that clip alone is why they should never take away, you know, weather games and put everything in domes. Like, that clip Yeah. Was was was just everything.

Yeah. I don't think Max says that he's a winner. He's just pat Philly is

like They're scumbags. But it's also

a unique sports city in the fact that they are they are so passionate, about their teams and, like, to a level of scumbaggery. I respect it. I like it. Yeah.

I mean, you need that. You think about Philly Sports, you've got great fans like Bill Cosby. You've got, Eat That Pussy. You've got Sandusky. Sandusky.

Joe Joe Pa was almost the coach there. Just like the list goes on. They're, Don Vito from Viva La Bam. Mhmm. They've got great fans.

You whatever. What? No 1 even cares about fucking Washington Sports.

I do. Kevin Durant.

Yeah. He did. Majic Johnson.

What has he ever done? He got aids.

This is in all caps. Head coaching interview should not happen till after the Super Bowl. Reason, exhibit a, the motherfucking Detroit Lions. Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn, both were interviewing the week leading up to the divisional

game, and it cost them. I don't they changed the rule already. It used to be that, like, this would happen and you could do in person interviews. They both did, like, 3 hour Zooms. I I I don't think that's the reason why the lions lost that game, and they have changed it so that January 20th is the first time the coaches can do in person interviews.

I don't know. You're I I think it's okay. I It sucks.

There's no way to solve the problem.

If you have a good Well, it's kinda it's already did

a little bit. But it's still I think it's still an issue. Like, obviously, Ben Johnson was getting his staff together during the week.

But you think a 3 hour Zoom? I mean Well, no.

But this

Zoom but the staff Yeah.

Yeah. I get that.

I get that. That was and it's just copium from losing. But Yeah. I could I could see Lions fans being frustrated.

Yeah. I don't think they lost that game because of coaching. No. But I was thinking that they had a 5 turnovers and their commanders were better.

Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, you could say that, like, at least 1 of those turnovers was the Ben Johnson play where he had You know, Jameson Williams

throwing the ball away

shot. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So I I I understand the

He probably called the play because he forgot that he was calling a game because he was already thinking about his his new job.

I I don't think that it's, like, a a massive, massive thing. There's no way to really fully stop it either because it's gonna happen, and this is what you have when you have a good team. You're gonna lose your coordinators. It sucks. So the problem with that

is and here's the only reason why I push back is you are it's in in your mind, you're saying you're protecting the teams obviously going deep. And it's like a a playoff team or sorry. A team that misses the playoff shouldn't get a benefit of being able to hire a coach, like, quickly in January. But the real loser in all of that is the coach. Like, if you don't let the coaches of the Super Bowl team even do a Zoom interview, they're never gonna get hired because the teams will wanna move faster than that.

So that coach is getting screwed for their own success.

Maybe you make a rule. You can't hire a coach until a week after the Super Bowl. But like, any coach? Any coach.

Okay.

I don't know. But I don't think there's a great answer

to it. Yeah. But the coach would lose out. Like, the the coach getting the opportunities would lose out because they were good at their job. So that's where it would kinda suck.

Yes. I'll change it.

They already did change it. Again, they they made it better. Like, the fact that you have to do Zoom to start is pretty good.

Alright. Last 1. Notre Dame losses are worse than any other team's losses because I can literally blame God for ignoring my prayers.

Mhmm.

What's the point of having a dead cousin if you can't come through for a natty? BYU doesn't count because Mormonism isn't real, and God hates Boston College.

Okay? Maybe that's why they don't lose anybody to the transfer portal because you you can tell your players, like, hey. If you transfer, you're going to hell.

Yeah. Texas Christian University. Do they have this I mean, it's in the name. I don't know. I don't know the

They did, pretty pretty good in the national championship.

SMU made it to the playoff. Yeah. Are the God teams having a moment?

No. Not really because you lost.

Yeah. I, lost the crusade. I thought he was gonna say because everyone likes to make fun of Notre Dame. But, yeah. I guess I think that would be the more shitty part.

You could always say that, like, this is God testing you. Yeah. Like, Bill Belichick said, do your job.

It would be so funny if, like, god if God were real and ever revealed himself and was like, I've been rooting for this the whole time. Or or, like, I don't even watch sports, you guys. Yeah. This is like, how why the fuck were you guys saying that? Do you know do you know how flooded my inbox was Mhmm.

With sports, you idiots? Yeah.

God I don't know. Would God be a sports fan?

He's got a lot of if if God exists, I think he got a lot of other issues working on.

If I was God, I would I would fix all the sports.

Yeah. So sorry, Notre Dame fan, but, yeah, I I I I don't know if it's God that that had that. I think it was more like not having enough 5 stars.

But if you wanna go there, that's fine. Yeah. Like, blame who you gotta blame.

Yeah. However you cope is is completely that's what I was saying earlier. Normalize, like, bad losing.

Yeah. Give god some bulletin board material. Yeah. That's what Martin Luther did when he nailed that shit on the door.

Yes. Nailed it right there. Alright. Good show, boys. Numbers?

Numbers? 9.

Go 8. And god does hate the Jets.

3. 11.

5.

Okay. Shane pug. Jack. Jack. Jack.

Get Jack. Pug. Get Jack on. 45. Jack.

Jack. He said he said on Sunday, if if the Lions lost means that Ohio State doesn't win, and we pointed out that those 2 things have literally nothing to do with each other. Ohio State won. Thoughts?

It was horrible. Okay.

Yeah. Maybe don't make that trade again.

Yeah. I won't.

Okay. Alright. Shane. 21. Alright.

Meebs, what's your number again? Woah.

8. I have 3.

70. 70. Love you

guys.