Transcript of Brooks Koepka, PGA Championship With Shane Bacon, Wemby's Revenge, Lebron's Last Game? Plus Guys On Chicks New

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Wemby's revenge, I was calling it, PFT, even though the revenge was that he tried to take someone's head off, uh, Nasrid's head off, and he rightfully was ejected from the game in Game 4. But still, revenge. You just knew he was gonna come out, and that's exactly what he did. He was on fire from the start. He was blocking threes. The Spurs are an absolute problem. And as, as, as hard as the Timberwolves played, and they look like even in the third quarter when they came out at halftime and there was no one in the stands in San Antonio— I don't know what they're doing, get back to your seats— it just was too much, too much Spurs. And they win easily and take a pivotal Game 5.

Halftime, a lot of big women in line for those churros, you know that.

That's it.

That's Charles Barkley.

That's not PFT.

Not me. Yeah, that's Charles Barkley. I'm just quoting. I'm quoting Sir Charles.

Yeah.

You called it. You called it revenge.

Yeah.

Redemption is what Reggie Miller was calling it. Redemption for, I guess. Yeah. Trying to elbow somebody's neck off.

Yeah.

But what I saw from Wimby, at least like tonight and really through the playoffs, like Wimby is kind of— he's evolving so fast as a center. Like the knock against Wimby a couple of months ago was like, He doesn't really have that, you know, a great offensive low post game. And now we're seeing that, oh yeah, Wimby can do that too. Yeah. So it's just a matter, it's a matter of time. He's going to be able, he's going to be the best center of all time at like every skill set by the time it's all said and done. And right now, what's the stat? The pivotal game 5 that in a 2-2 series, winner game 5 wins 82% of the time.

Yeah. It's, it's, it's significant.

The Spurs have done it. I think the Spurs are 10-1 when they've won game 5 of a series that's tied 2-2. And they look dominant tonight. And maybe, maybe I'm outing myself as not a diehard Spurs watcher. I haven't seen too much of them. Dylan Harper. Oh yeah. Dylan Harper should be starting. Dylan Harper might be the best guard on that team. And I understand that they've got, you know, two other players that they're paying significant amounts of money to. But I feel like Dylan Harper is the best player on, well, he's the best player on that team.

He's really good too. I mean, Castle's really good.

They're good.

I feel like Dylan Harper's the best though.

I, I would, I would say Castle is— Castle, what he does defensively too is he's, he's very, very good. But yeah, no, they have— I mean, Dylan Harper's been great in this series and he's, he's helped out a lot. And it's, uh, yeah, they're good. They're just a good team all around. Like, there's, there's not a lot of holes when you have Victor Wembenyama standing in the middle. Like, you can just see it as the Timberwolves get frustrated. You just can't— they have to alter every shot. They have to take a lot of threes from guys they don't want taking threes. They shot, you know, 27% from 3 tonight. And that's a lot of the Wemby effect where it's like you can't go in the paint and you just— there's not a lot you can do when he's standing there. He's blocking 3s. He's blocking 3s. Like he's just everywhere. It feels like his presence is just everywhere on the court.

And you're thinking about him even when he's not there.

Yeah.

Like you're shooting a 3 now and you're like, oh God, I hope their center doesn't block this 3.

Yeah, he's— it's, it's crazy. It's a freak show to watch, and it's his first playoffs. I, I don't—

and it was a, it was a close game with 4 left in the third. I think it was 72-67 with 4 left in the third. And then after that, the Spurs were just like, okay, time to slit their throats. And they did.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, like I said, I, I, I wouldn't be shocked if the Timberwolves could somehow find a way to win Game 6 just because that's in their DNA. Like, you saw it even in the third quarter when they came out of halftime, and they're like, we're We're gonna fight and we're not gonna give up. But they just ran out of gas. Anthony Edwards, he's still clearly not 100%. You could see it like at the— towards the end of the game. I know it was kind of— it was, it was a 15-20 point lead back and forth in the fourth quarter. But like, he, he just kind of ran out of gas. He didn't have that burst. He didn't really want the ball. And I don't blame him. Like, he's still coming back from injury. He had an incredible Game 4. His knee went backwards 10 days ago and he had to play 2— 2, you know, he had a crazy effort in Game 4 and then has to come back and play Game 5. It's just, it's tough. The odds are stacked against the Timberwolves right now, and it doesn't— it feels like they're maybe out of answers.

Maybe the answer is just you got to get Wemby to elbow some more people.

You gotta— yeah, you gotta get under skin a little bit. I don't know, I feel like that's a mistake that Wemby's not going to make again now that he knows the rule where—

don't elbow anyone in the face. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's, that's one thing they didn't teach him at, at Monk School, but he picked up on that.

Yeah. Yeah. All right. Anything else from this game? Nothing.

Nothing.

Nothing.

Wemby's awesome.

Nothing. I mean, the Spurs, I'm excited. And I don't mean to overlook the Wolves. They've been much, much better than I expected them. But I feel like you're right. They're limited right now. And he's not like a shell of himself. He's still really fucking good. But he's not capable of putting this roster on his back right now. In winning a series. So I'm just, I'm pumped. I'm very excited for Thunder Spurs.

Yeah. Wemby, by the way, the first 6 minutes of the game, he had 16 points. He just, he did come out and he was just like, I'm just going to assert my dominance. Did you also see the Spurs' secret weapon is just that Pop is still around? Because I don't know if you guys saw the clip that Pop like met Wemby at the airport. And talk to him. But like, the minute he stepped off the plane, he was just talking to him. I feel like having a guy that knows basketball the way Pop does— and he's not in the best health, but like, he knows basketball better than anyone— and he's just a secret weapon. They can be like, oh yeah, let me just give Wemby a couple tips here, and then everything will probably fix itself.

Also, Tim Duncan and David Robinson just being around, like, I'm sure they're, you know, they're at the games, they're probably there pregame. Like, that's— those are probably two good people to, to bounce some things off of. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Tim Duncan sitting in the crowd looking like he sells the cheapest weed ever. I love it.

Yeah. And then the Sabers came back. They, they, they tie the series in Montreal. Tough game. This series has been awesome. The crowds have been awesome. And I'm excited that we're going to get like— it did feel like if the Canadiens— we talked with Biz on, on Monday's show that it felt like it was teetering on like the Canadiens just dominating the rest of the series. But now we get 2-2 and we're going back to Buffalo. It's going to be fun.

Yeah. Tage Thompson, Tage against the machine. He had that goal tonight that I don't know if that's a spot in Montreal on the ice that he knew about when he fired that puck against the boards, but it looked like he knew what he was doing.

Yeah.

It looked like he knew that there's a spot where the puck will carry him strangely. Somehow the goalie didn't look for it, but Tage knew about it. But it looked like it was something that was unintentionally. So I would like to hear what, what Whit and Biz have to say about that. If that's something that, that players know around the league, that there's certain spots in certain arenas, it's like, yeah, you can, you can fire something in there.

And they said on the broadcast, like wherever the Zamboni is, that's like a thing, you know, that's, that's a common spot everywhere because that's where the Zamboni comes out. But they said the Canadians coaches had told the goalie that he comes too far out in those situations and to stay in goal. And then they were like, if he had just come out of the goal, like that probably doesn't go in.

Look at that. I like that. Yeah.

Cause it bounced off him.

Hanky Pucks.

Yeah.

And also Biz told us it was the faceoff, the faceoff battle. The Sabers won the faceoff battle tonight. They got dominated in the last two games and they had the puck more often. So good for them. And we're, I think the, uh, did you guys see that hit in the Ducks-Knights game? That was a car crash.

The head bouncing off the glass a little bit.

Oh, listen, he— I hope he's okay. He came off the ice. Rory's gutting out a blister. So is it golf tough now? Like, Rory played, I think, 3 holes today with the blister and then had to come off, but he's going to play in the PGA. Hockey guys are coming out of the games.

It's pretty sad to see. Sad state of affairs. In jail right now.

I love Caulfield.

I don't think Caulfield got taken off the ice tonight when he got cross-checked right in the neck.

I know they didn't. The ref was literally, it looked like he was, the ref was like, I'm not looking for this. Like he basically turned his head right at the second that he got cross-checked.

Yeah. He was like, that's, listen, this is playoff hockey. I'm not going to step in for every tiny little infraction that we have. The guy like straight up a cross-check. To the front of his neck. Like, it looked like his vocal cords got crushed. And I mean, shout out hockey players. Caulfield didn't even really seem to appeal to the ref.

No, at all.

No. After he got that, he's just like, oh, they didn't call it. Okay, I guess I better skate over to the bench now. Yeah, off the ice.

Fair play. Uh, hey, do you have anything to say about Rory having a blister? Because it is very funny. Yeah, I mean, it's serious stuff.

Like, people, people think golfers are, are a joke, but that's— I mean, a blister, have you ever played golf on a blister?

I have actually. I did on Monday.

And yeah, how'd that go?

Fine. Memes, you were with me. Like, did I complain once? We walked. Didn't even know he had one. Yeah, that's just built different, I guess. Played full 9 holes.

Yeah, we'll see how it—

I mean, I think it's going to hurt his chances, honestly.

Are you being serious?

Yeah.

Which hand is it on?

No, it's on his foot. It's on his foot. Yes. He like had his shoe off.

Yeah, it would make maybe a difference if it was on his hand.

No, no, it's his foot.

Which foot?

Uh, I think it was his right foot. It's like, it looked like a blister, like when you wear, uh, sandals at the beach all day.

Yeah, blisters aren't real. You can just, you can just pretend a blister doesn't exist.

Pitchers, pitchers' blisters are real.

That's why I was saying, like, if it's on your hand, I can see that. But if it's a foot blister, no, just put a Band-Aid on it. Airplane glue. Just get some— get airplane— get crazy glue, but— and you're fine.

But put, put a Band-Aid on it. You'll be fine. That was Max's, uh, uh, pinky toe on his right foot. That was, that was Max's beautiful mic that he's just stunting on Hank right now. He's, he's looking great with his new mic.

I wish I didn't know. I wish I didn't know it was the pinky toe. The pinky toe to me seems like the most That's the worst spot to get it.

Just put a pinky band-aid on it. Uh, okay, two other things before we kick it to ourselves in studio. One, uh, one, I have, uh, my End ALS shirt on right now. Uh, Boog Sciambe sent me this, so all proceeds go to, uh, they're donating to Project Main Street. Lou Gehrig Day is coming up June 2nd. We're gonna do some stuff with them, so, uh, please support it. They made it all 30 team colors, so you can go get one now and support ALS. Trying to find a cure. I actually have two more things. Darryl Morey fired. Max?

Yeah, it had to be done.

Okay.

You're not a basketball town.

Do you want me to talk about it or do you just want to keep talking about things that happened in the past?

I mean, he just added one piece of commentary. I still have the floor.

It had to happen. You're not a basketball town. Like, what are you talking about?

Uh, Daryl Morey had to go. Daryl Morey had to go.

Are you gonna keep talking, PFT, or you're gonna just let him tell you?

What are you gonna do?

I'm just— I'm just— you asked me about Daryl Morey, so I'm trying to give my two cents, and it's just— it's just a chirp gallery over there. I can't get three words out without something from you two snicker guys over there.

By the way, that was more than 3 words.

I said Darryl Morey had to go. Sorry, Darryl Morey, why do you have to go? 5 words. My bad. Because it's not—

why do you think you had to go, Max?

Something's not working.

I—

Darryl Morey has done a lot of good things for the future of the 76ers. He's a very good drafter. Since his time, he's drafted Tyrese Maxey, Jared McCain, VJ Edgecomb. Jared McCain is no longer there. He also drafted B-ball Paul Isaiah Joe. Both of those two guys are also no longer there. So he's very good at evaluating talent. He's not very good at putting a team together, which is probably pretty important for a GM. But we'll see. We got to see who we bring in to, you know, really get excited about it because right now it's just damage control.

Uh, Max, are you guys keeping Nick Nurse?

We are keeping Nick Nurse.

So you're bringing in a GM, um, with a, a coach that he did not hire?

Yeah, hopefully you got a GM that is on board with Nick Nurse.

Yeah.

Do you think it has to work together?

Do you think Daryl Morey was like, hey, you know what, I'm not gonna— yeah, I'm done. You beat it.

What are we gonna say?

No, you beat it out.

Yeah, yeah, all right, good win for me.

No, I was just saying, do you think Darryl Morey—

there we go—

heard the comments about not being a basketball town? He's like, I don't want to do this anymore.

Well, he didn't resign, so—

yeah, but he was like, I don't want to do this anymore. They're like, yeah, we don't want you to do this anymore. It's a mutual parting of ways.

It was not described as a mutual parting of ways.

I think it was. I just—

so good move by Josh Harris is what you're saying?

It was a move.

It was a move. There had to be some sort of move. You couldn't just run it back.

You had to have someone.

I actually have no idea if they said if it was a parting of ways.

Uh, okay.

Yeah, let's pull this up. Now, there—

yes, yes, yes. Sean said Maury and the 76ers owner Josh Harris and Dave Blitzer met on Tuesday evening in Philadelphia. The decision was made to part ways.

Yeah, wait a minute, no, that's more— no, no, no, no, there was Harris and Blitzer to decide to part ways with Darryl Morey.

No, Morey met with them, met Morey, met with them on Tuesday night and they decided to part ways.

Okay, I'll do the reenactment of, of how this went down, uh, mutually. It was Josh Harris and he goes, you're fired. And then Darryl Morey goes, I agree. Yeah, I'm fired.

No, Darryl Morey probably said part ways, question mark. That's always how that goes. Yeah. And then Josh Harris is like, yeah, let's just say yes. Yeah.

Yes. I actually thought, I thought our guy Ryan Glass-Beagle had a pretty decent idea of what Darryl Morey should do next. He should be the guy that the NBA hires to figure out how to stop teams from tanking and taking advantage of all the rules.

Yeah, to get the analytics out of the NBA.

Yes, it's, it's, uh, Catch Me If You Can, Frank Abagnale.

Yeah, it's Theo Epstein.

Yeah, they bring him on. You like to think like a thief, you have to hire a thief. Yeah, pretty much.

Make the game great again. Uh, okay, last thing, PFT and Hank, you guys have a new bet?

Yeah, I mean, Hank and I are going to get into it in a little bit on the show, and, and, um, after we got done getting into it, we took a little bit of a break. And, uh, after we were done recording, Hank and I sat down, our argument continued because Hank just doesn't understand that teams can change and that front offices can change and that plans can exist and that certain teams can be set up to be actually competitive in the future in a way that maybe they haven't looked at all like for the last 40 years.

And Anthony Davis is going to play for the Wizards.

Yeah, if Anthony Davis is healthy, then like, who knows, the sky's the limit. And also, by the way, Hank, We might not be done. We might, we might go out there and get an Andre Drummond. We might go out there. We might, we might go out there and get a LeBron James. He sees how Michael Jordan ended his career. He's like, I want a taste of that. But we might not be done. So Hank and I had a little bet. And after a little bit of back and forth, the bet's going to be, will the Washington Wizards finish in the top 8 seeds? In the East going into the playoffs?

At the end of the regular season?

Yes.

At the end of the regular season, will they be a top 8 seeded team? And I had the boys over at DraftKings Sportsbook put together a hypothetical over-under win total for the Wizards if they keep AD, if, and if we keep the number 1 pick and we take Dubanza. Those are the assumptions that we're making right now. And the over-under would be about 41.5.

These do not matter for our bet though, just for the record.

They don't.

Oh yeah.

But the hypothetical over-under for the Wizards going into next year would be 41.5. I'm obviously taking the over on that and that would put them outside the play-in this year, but I'm taking the over on it. So I feel like it's a good bet. And the terms of the bet are if the Wizards finish in the top 8 at the end of the regular season, Hank has to get a Washington Wizards tattoo that's about the, the size of a baseball somewhere on his body.

We said a peanut butter cap, which is about the size of— the official verbiage was peanut butter cap.

It was peanut butter cap, that's true. I just didn't know if most people can envision a baseball easier, but no, you're right. Peanut butter cap.

What, people don't have peanut butter?

No, you're right. I'm sorry, I'm sorry for even saying that. Peanut butter cap. And then If, uh, if the Wizards don't, uh, Hank gets my El Camino.

So I, I was doing the Yak when this happened, um, and Max texted me it.

Are you—

I love this bet. This is gonna be great, great, great for the podcast. But P.T., are you trying to get rid of the El Camino?

I'm not. The El Camino is getting— it's getting, uh, fixed for the summer right now. I'm— in fact, I'm putting a lot of money into it right now so that it doesn't have any of the problems it's had in the past. And by the way, that's another thing. People like to talk about the El Camino like it didn't work at all last year. It worked every day until the very last day of the summer when I said it's worked every day, and then the next morning it didn't start. But besides that, it was a great summer. I'm getting it fixed up and putting money into it right now as we speak. So no, I don't want to get rid of the El Camino, but that's how That's how strongly I feel about my Wizards, my beloved Wizards.

Hank, what are you going to do with the El Camino if you get it?

Probably just drive it to work and just park it. Like, I'll probably just drive it back and forth to work just so PFT can like see it.

Okay. And then what?

And Hank originally tried to bet me his car, but I don't want that piece of shit. So I was like, let's just do a tattoo.

Yeah, I was just trying to get rid of my car.

Hank, what tattoo would you get? I don't know.

I've thought about that.

They have— they have some interesting logos. So, I mean, I honestly, like, I don't think I'll ever have to really think about it ever.

Okay. Okay.

But if I— yeah, I'm not even— I'm not even really— I don't have an answer and I will not have an answer again. Like, I don't think this is ever going to be a conversation that I ever have to seriously consider.

It is kind of crazy that the last like 3 days we've spent probably like 500 times as much time on this podcast talking about the Wizards as we have in the previous 10 years combined. But that's how it goes, right?

What's the face you're making?

I said, why is that?

Yeah, we're all trying to find the guy who did that. He just put his hands up.

In the past, I've been the one that's like, dude, we're not talking about the Wizards.

Yeah.

Right. Yeah, no, we were trying— we were dying to talk about the Wizards and you were like, no, no, no, guys, I'll stop you right there.

Yeah, whatever.

They're gonna be just crazy. They're gonna be phrasing it the way you did, like, it's crazy that we done— yeah, we'll go ahead.

Hank, if the Wizards got the number 2 pick, would you be thinking playoffs?

Yeah.

What about number 3?

Maybe not. That's how— that's— listen, with D'Vanza, Hank, I know, I know you don't spend a lot of time like actually watching basketball.

I know, but he's Brockton's finest.

If you look at what the starting 5 would be for the Wizards next year, outside of Trey, I think every single player is 6'10" or above, and they're pretty fucking skilled. They're pretty young. Dynamic defensively besides Trae Young, I think they're going to be a really good team.

So looking at it, you gotta basically, uh, hope that— well, the Pacers, if Halliburton comes back, they'll be, you know, they'll be back in. And you gotta hope that, uh, the combo of the, the Bucks, Bulls, and Nets don't get better, which I, I don't, I don't think. Maybe the Bucks if they keep Giannis. Which we'll get to in a second.

But like, we'll get to that in a little bit. Yeah, the Bulls could get a, a good play.

It's probably not going to be a top 8 seed, I would say. They got a lot of work to do.

Not worried about the Nets. Magic, I don't know.

Yeah, are gonna be better than the Wizards.

Yeah, who knows what the Sixers are going to be like next year. They might not even play basketball. They don't have a GM. I, I don't know what's going on there.

It's a fun bet. This will be a fun bet.

He'll get a lot of minutes out there on the court.

Did you see DiBansa shooting threes at the combine?

Yeah. Don't care.

Okay. Yeah, I mean, I agree. I don't think it matters much. I just, I know that was going viral that he was, some guy from like the upper deck was, would have had him just missing a shitload of threes.

The NBA Combine is, is a very— it's very funny to me, like, the stuff that they measure. Like, we haven't seen him playing basketball and shooting threes in games before.

Well, that's the NFL Combine too.

Yeah, the NFL Combine. Um, yeah, I guess so. It's a little bit different with the NBA though.

I would, I would say the NBA is probably like more instructive than the NFL Combine.

You think so?

Yeah, because they actually play games. Like, they play against each other in the NBA.

In the NBA Combine, like, obviously Caraban looked pretty good when he was shooting, um, but like when you see them do the, uh, the defensive drills and they clock those, that seems like it's probably a pretty relevant drill. And then seeing like what the wingspan is and all that, I get that.

Oh yeah, I know, NBA Combine is like You can learn a lot more than what the NFL Combine does because again, they play games against each other.

I'm not worried about Dubanza missing a few shots now. I think we'll be okay. And again, I'm feeling even more confident after hearing Hank talk about it because it's clear that Hank has not like— the Wizards have just been kind of like a dark spot in the back of his brain that he has not thought about at all for the last 20 years, which I understand. But just know that that dark spot is— it's growing and it's coming back angry.

We played you guys in the playoffs one time.

John Wall. Yeah.

Hey, yeah, no, this is— this is— I'm just looking forward to— I just hope, you know, if he doesn't run the El Camino into the ground this summer, I'm sure it'll be in tip-top shape by the time I get it.

I'm thinking tramp stamp for you, Hank. I'm thinking small of your back.

You get to choose? No. Oh, let's, let's talk about it right now. That's what he's thinking.

That was part of the terms. We have the terms on camera, and it was that Hank gets to choose where the tattoo goes.

Yes.

I suggest—

I—

my suggestion is the small of your back.

All right, if we're doing suggestions, I suggest your neck.

All right, I will, I'll take those suggestions into consideration.

Okay, good. Thank you. I appreciate it. All right, I think PFT is just realizing he got fleeced on this deal.

No, I didn't. I'm, I'm completely fine on this deal. Absolutely. Job having— you don't have a GM, you don't know what a fleecing is. Having Hank have a tattoo of the Wizards, the Washington Wizards, on his body. Yeah, that's how strongly I feel that the Wizards are back.

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All right, boys, we are 1-0 on our last one. Parlays so hot, so hot. Uh, we have to do one. We're doing one for Wednesday night Cavs-Pistons pivotal Game 5, which we're about to talk about Game 4 in a minute. But do we have our picks?

I got one that I love.

Same.

Okay, well, I hope we don't have the same one.

Go.

Is it Cade Cunningham, 6+ rebounds?

No.

Good.

I think he's gonna do it all. I think he's gonna be fighting, probably gonna get a triple-double. Game 5, gotta go hard.

Okay, I'm gonna go, um, Max Strus, 4+ rebounds. Oh, Max Strus, grit, playing above the rim.

Okay, I'm gonna go Duncan Robinson, 3-3s. Yeah, he had a not great game 4. He had a good game 3, so I think he's gonna get a bounce-back game at home. Okay, so Max Struess, 4 rebounds. Cade Cunningham, 6 rebounds. Duncan Robinson, 3 points.

3-3. Thinking about going Tobias Harris, 19+ points. He's a really good player.

He's a really good player. Really good player. Uh, should we talk about the game on Monday night? Because Donovan Mitchell was sensational for a half. He started the game 4 points, ended the game with 43. He scored 21 in the— he tied the Pistons in this in the third quarter, uh, amidst the Cavs' 25-0 run. And he just took over. He was lights out. I don't know what he did at halftime, but it worked because he won this game. James Harden was actually pretty good too. Again, he had a weird— did you guys see the The reporter asked him about his Angels hat.

I did not see that.

So he was wearing an Angels hat after the game in the postgame press conference. The reporter was like, oh, are you wearing an Angels hat because they're playing the Guardians this week? And James Harden was like, I don't know. I don't watch any of that. I don't know what you're talking about. I just wake up and practice and go play ball.

He's just like, I just, I just really respect Mike Trout's commitment to being a great offensive player and never winning anything.

Yeah.

Yeah. He's my spirit animal.

He said, yeah, I don't know who's playing who. Nothing. I wasn't watching TV or nothing. I just wake up and do the same thing every day. Practice every day.

Yeah, I mean, it's a perfectly fitting hat.

Yeah.

James Harden. This was the Karis LeVert game too. Yeah. What a performance he had last night in 31 minutes. Yeah, but Donovan Mitchell, second half, just unreal. Just, just could not be stopped.

Ties the record for most points in a second half playoff game with Eric Sleepy Floyd, which I know we've talked about this before. We just used to have such better nicknames. Sleepy Floyd. Sleepy Floyd's a great nickname. It was— I, I looked it up. He got Sleepy Floyd because he was playing baseball as a kid and someone yelled from the crowd, hey, get that kid out of there, he looks like he's asleep. And just— and that was it. Yeah, it was Sleepy Floyd forever. But like, I was just thinking about it, it just, it sucks. We used to have awesome night— we— awesome nicknames, and now we don't.

Yeah, Spider's good. That's a good name.

Spider's good. But like Just, I don't know, just thinking back, just we've missed the good nickname.

Yeah, Deuce. Like, I know we got, we got Mobley in this series. It reminds me of Catino Mobley, the cat. Just a simple nickname like that. That's always good. Hank, you could be Sleepy. Yeah, Sleepy Henry. Yeah, sure.

Sleepy, Sleepy Lockwood.

Stay sleepy.

But like, like Max mentioned, the— was it— I think it was last week when he was like, yeah, Jared McCain's just a microwave, the microwave the nickname The Microwave for Vinnie Johnson. Like, that's an unbelievable nickname. We don't have those nicknames anymore. We just have lost them all. It stinks.

I mean, there's still nicknames, but they're not cool.

I think it's because most nicknames— Iceman. Yeah, I think it's because most nicknames have been taken. So it's like they're not as— you can't do a simple nickname anymore. Every nickname has to be like something special because the other ones have already been used.

Yeah, I don't know. It's just like— or I saw Dave retweeting something about Oil Can Boyd. Like, that's a great nickname.

Yeah, like there's just—

I just wish we had cool nicknames.

Big, Big Dumper.

Big Dumper's a good nickname.

That is a good nickname.

Yep. The Spaceman was a great nickname too. Yeah, good baseball nickname.

Charlie Hustle for Pete Rose. Mm-hmm. It's a great nickname. Like, that's— I don't know, Charlie Hustle. It's a great nickname.

B-Ball Paul.

B-Ball Paul is a great nickname.

Great name.

And Playoff P. Playoff P.

That's a very funny, funny name.

James. Yeah. Yeah. There's never been a big game— Big Game James Shields was first, and then he wasn't big game. Big Game James Harden, I kind of like it. Just big game, you just throw Big Game James on someone and they just don't come up big.

Yeah, it's almost too much pressure to live up to the name.

Yeah, the other story from this game and series, well, the Cavs just— they, they, they're just gonna keep winning at home. They got to find a way to win one in Detroit. I, I am starting to feel bad for Jalen Duren because it's— he— the amount of money he's costing himself in these playoffs is so significant. He's a restricted free agent. He was a 20-10 guy this year. He was an all, like, hustle strength when you're playing in the regular season. Last night he had 8 points and 2 rebounds. Yeah, he's basically being played out of this series, played out of these playoffs. I actually think the Pistons should probably not start him, and it sucks because it's like It's funny to laugh, but then it's like, this guy was about to make a ton of money, and I don't know how much money you can pay him now because he doesn't have the, the skill set that translates to the playoffs, and it's been shown through 2 series now for the Pistons.

Yeah, I don't know, he's still got some time, so the story is not quite written, but it does feel like this has cost him multiple, like, tens of millions of dollars.

Yeah, I mean, he's averaging 10 points in, in the playoffs, and he's just, he's just a non-factor offensively, and the Pistons need it badly. Cade Cunningham also not great last 2 games. Like, you just got to say it. I think he's the best player in this series. He's got to be the best player in this series for the Pistons to win it. Yeah, I think that's fair, right?

Yeah, he's got it. He's got it. He was doing some of the driving kicks. I was like, he was opening up the offense a little bit. But it just— you get the vibe that this is going to be home team wins, home team wins. Yes.

Hank, I have a question for the booth, because obviously it is fun when you're the most dominant team in your conference and you get to watch the teams you're going to play in the next round. Who do you want the most when you're watching these games?

I didn't even watch last night's game.

Oh, but, but wow, you did on Monday's show. You gave an answer.

I did. I don't think it matters at this point. They're just gonna be playing 4 more games than you, and it just— you're gonna be the more ready team at this point.

You just need it to go 7.

You just need to go 7 and then just be ready. I think you'd rather play the Pistons.

No, you want home court.

The Knicks are so good at home, right?

But the Cavs can't win on the road.

I, I think you want the Pistons though. I feel like the Cavs still have— I mean, Donovan Mitchell still has what he did last night in him, you know what I mean? Like, that's—

yeah, but I don't think he's gonna do that every night.

Of course not. But I'm saying like, just as a roster, the Cavs feel like they have— I'm not saying that they're significantly better than the Pistons because I think this is probably gonna go 7. I'm just saying as a roster, it feels like they have more to offer in a 7-game series than the Pistons currently. And that's just the Pistons like They have Kate Cunningham and they need other— who would you rather— who'd you be like, hey, who, who can step up more, James Harden or like Evan Mobley? Or I don't know. I mean, I just also—

I'm just—

I'm just gonna win either one.

I'm strictly in the, in the entertainment, just like let's have the most entertaining playoffs from here on out. If James Harden could get into another Game 7, I—

that's what I was rooting for. Like that said, I want that.

We want that. I want that like bad. Game 7, James Harden at the Garden.

Would be amazing.

Yeah, probably the biggest stage that he's done it on— like at MSG?

I want it bad!

I think, uh, at MSG, on MSG: James Harden, like 3 points, and he checks himself out in the third quarter.

And Donovan Mitchell just goes off for 50, and it's like everything but no, no, they're not okay. Come on, that'd be crazy!

Also, it's the Knicks, it's going to be a four-game series.

Well, the thing is, like New York City, not really a strip club city.

No, no, you got—

what's that place right near Times Square?

Rick's Cabaret.

But that's He's not— do they do tassels there?

Shut up, memes. Yeah, cabaret.

Yeah, Harden's not a tassels, so he might be locked in, uh, for Game 7.

But yeah, although, all right, so counterpoint, I feel like in New York City you could just make your own strip club in your hotel room.

Yeah, that's true.

You could probably just—

you could probably— and there's definitely clubs that we don't know about or ever went to.

Correct.

Probably like, there's definitely late night spots where—

correct.

Yeah.

Zach, couldn't you just go to Starlets?

What's that?

Men's club, New York.

Where's Charlotte's?

It's like an all-time men's club.

Damn, a men's club.

Men's club. You know, like, are we talking dicks?

No, no, no, no, no.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah, I think we just exposed ourselves as like, we don't know ball.

Yeah, we— and we just came out as a strip club podcast and now we're just getting exposed.

Well, I mean, we needed Zach to show us the light. Zach is the strip club guy of this podcast.

I'm actually disappointed in the AWL to not have anyone like tweet us and be like, you guys say you're a strip club podcast, name your 5 favorite. And we're just like, uh, oh, Starlets looks like a good time.

We're looking at it right now. Where is that?

Zach, have you been to Starlets?

No, I just heard stories.

So Shane would like a lot.

So Zach, you were just a strip club guy. No.

Well, I guess Zach is a knowledgeable guy.

Yeah, he knows.

Yeah, it's true. That's true. Yeah, that's strip club capital.

They did just remodel 2001: A Space Odyssey. So if we ever want to take a field trip, we've been there.

Mons Venus.

Yeah, they just remodeled.

We filmed a video there.

Yeah, we did. They let us film in the thing upstairs.

Robo filming spaceship.

Yes. You got it 11 years ago. Yeah.

So this is in Queens. Yeah.

Zach, I don't know ball, but Zach, I'm starting to think you might be a little horny because the fact that you know of a strip club that you've never been to.

Zach's never even been to New York.

All right.

That's not fair. I have never been to New York.

I, I'm, uh, historically I enjoy the Joe Budden podcast and Joe Budden is, uh, I think it's Drake's in the Rafters at Starlets.

Dude, Zach's so tapped into the culture.

Yeah, I like that. Now there was a picture of Drake on there. Has Drake ever, has he certified it?

I believe so, yes sir.

Oh, we all were certified.

That might be how you found out about it too.

Okay.

Drake linked up with Side Talk for an evening at Starlets.

Is Zach our coolest guy?

Oh yeah.

Definitely. Like not even close.

Probably horniest too, but yes.

Zach, do we have any update on the glasses?

Glasses? They've been— they haven't been shipped, but they've been— it says we're putting together your order on the order.

Oh, I meant— I meant from the strip club. Oh no, because I told Mincy to go try to find them.

That would have been all time if he could have found them. Yeah, I think the kind woman who has them initially said she didn't have them, and then she knew the description of them, which made me feel like you definitely have to have them. And then she— yeah, I'm never getting it.

It'd be a real shame if AWL went in there and just asked for those glasses back every day until we found them.

Every day.

At least she looked good in them, you know.

She did. Yes, you're right, she did.

How could you tell though? Because you didn't have your glasses on.

He felt—

she felt good.

It's like Braille, you know, just kind of—

I'm just getting two dots again. What does that mean?

Oh man. Okay, other game, uh, Lakers. Credit to the Lakers, they fought, they fought their dicks off the last like 3 minutes of that game. Oh, hold on, Hank, I got other things. Don't worry, don't do it, don't do your face. You know, Big Cat's right, the last 3 And like that was incredible!

That was a good game. And for a team that sucked— Darren Rovell?

You're just Darren Rovell right now?

No no no no no no shut the fuck up Hank this is a bigger discussion than just the last 2 minutes of this show so you shut the fuck up and then we'll call on you later.

I didn't say anything!

Oh you did your facey throw-up thing. Ughh!

Listen we'll get to LeBron talk.

His face does suck when he does it.

It sucks dude he's the most punchable face in the world ughhh.

There's plenty of LeBron talk to go around.

What do you want me to fucking say Hank?! Is the Lakers.

Say anything.

The Lakers were never even— we said this a million times— the Lakers were never even close to being as good as the Thunder. I did— I— even if Luka was in this series, it wouldn't have mattered. The Thunder is so much better. Lakers are a flawed team. Most teams— oh, did he just take off his headphones? Most teams, when they are in a sweep situation, will lay down like dead dogs on Mother's Day and let a thousand threes get shot in their face. The Lakers did not do that. They actually fought till the bitter end, and I'll give them a little bit of credit for that.

They fought really hard.

And they also had no— they had no— like, if you just want to— this series is, is summed up perfectly in— if you just look at SGA, the JJ Redick tried everything he possibly could the first two games. They doubled them, they blitzed them. SGA didn't score a lot of points. The rest of the Thunder just beat him. Game 3, he mixed and matched, tried it again. Another not great SGA performance. Same thing, lost by, you know, a million. Game 4, they're like, hey, we're just gonna go one-on-one against SGA. He drops 35 and makes some big shots at the end. They just had no answers. They had no answers to what the Thunder posed. And the Thunder, like, even that— there was that one play that's like, what do you do with this? Because you have, you have a center in DeAndre Ayton who is just a complete like zero. He couldn't even be on the court.

He had—

did you see his new, his new chain? Yeah. What was it, Dion? What was it? What does his chain say? His, his career earnings are insane.

Yeah.

In $170 million.

Good for him.

The new DeAndre. This is during a series where he's getting absolutely torched and looks like, like he can't play on the court. He got a big new chain that says Dominate.

Dominate.

I like that.

Dominate.

I like that. Good for him. So listen, Say what you want about DeAndre, and I was, I was impressed with what the Lakers did in the second half because the entire series it's like, okay, halftime close, third quarter game over. Yeah, the Lakers actually came out, they won the third quarter.

Yeah, the second quarter was their problem.

Second quarter for like 6 minutes, it was the first 6 minutes of the second quarter. Yeah, they didn't score at all. And then in the second half they actually played better than the Thunder did. Yeah, in that third quarter. And they're old as fuck and they're limited, and Austin Reeves was trying to do everything that he could.

Yeah, um, but it was that— so the one possession where it's like, oh, you know what would be nice if you had a center that could actually do something, who, who can't be played off the court, was that it was maybe with like 2 minutes left and it was basically SGA, Hartenstein flashes to the free throw line, passed to Hartenstein, Hartenstein turns around, lob to Chet. Nothing you could do about it. They just don't have anyone who could do anything.

They can't. And, um, they had their chances. The Lakers had their chances in the fourth quarter. They couldn't make shots. That's, that's what it is. And, and LeBron, um, this might be the last time that we see him on an NBA court. I think it's an abomination if he was wearing those jerseys the last time we see LeBron play. We see like it's a combination of those jerseys and the game being on Prime. Yeah, that's actually a disgusting way for, for LeBron to end his career. It was not his greatest series, but I think he played good enough to the point where everybody knew that LeBron was doing— you can't put this on him.

No.

And also it's the roster and then Shout out.

Yeah.

Shout out to Dylan Brooks.

Yeah.

Because Dylan Brooks did the Hater of the Year. The Hater of the Year. He stopped by his— what's the meme? Memes. He went to the funeral.

Hater's funeral.

Biggest hater.

Biggest hater's funeral. He did that. He sat feet on the wood underneath the basket, just chuckling, just to watch LeBron James lose. I respect it. I've gone from like thinking that Dylan Brooks is kind of a clown because he has, you know, built himself to be one of the LeBron stoppers of this era. He's clearly not. He's just kind of like a LeBron annoyer. He's like a mosquito that buzzes around LeBron's ear. But for him to do that now catapults him back into almost like cartoonish hater. Um, so a lot of respect to Dylan Brooks because you probably had to pay a lot of money for those tickets.

I love it. Yeah. Also, the big loser of this series is the Houston Rockets. Okay, how bad are they?

Uh, yeah, pretty bad.

I mean, Austin Reeves didn't even play in half the series. I mean, the Thunder are awesome, I understand, but like, the Rockets are supposed to be one of those teams that is like up and coming and ready to compete, and they lost to this Lakers team. Like, it's a testament to LeBron that he was like— even winning one series was crazy in these playoffs. The question now is, how do we grade LeBron's time with the Los Angeles Lakers if it is in fact over.

I've got, I've got one spin zone for Lakers fans because we are about to say the bubble championship, uh, so he didn't really win, didn't count, uh, but if you want to spin zone, I can't find why—

what, what— I can't try to find the Ravel series tweet about the Nuggets.

It was the Nuggets, uh, it was like that was the most impressive— oh no, I think it might have been Green— there was two. One was Ravel was about the game, but then Greeny was like that was the most impressive, that was like the most exciting sweep of all time.

Yeah, because Ravel said Game 1 was the greatest game. It wasn't the Finals game, but that was the greatest game ever played.

Yeah, there's, there's a few of those. I would say that like the biggest accomplishment that the Lakers had in this era, um, when they figured out how to put Rui Hachimura on Jokic and shut him down.

Yep, that figured something out.

That was probably number one. Uh, I think we need to withhold judgment and we need to see what LeBron James does after this season and if he goes somewhere else, maybe a sign-and-trade, and then we get to evaluate what they get yet for LeBron. And then like 3 years down the line, if they win a championship because the pieces that LeBron left them, then we can say it was a success.

Listen, COVID sucked. We all agree COVID was the worst. COVID did give us one parting gift in that we can just forever say, yeah, that championship didn't count.

Yeah.

And it pisses everyone off.

Well, and the farther away you get from COVID the faker it gets.

Like, the faker that— the farther away from COVID you get, the faker the bubble championship is.

Now, Hank, what about the—

if we're going to play devil's advocate, fact or fiction, No, I know I'm doing it mostly as a troll because I don't actually care to, like, debate the merits of the bubble championship. I just like to just say with puffed out chest, yeah, LeBron won zero titles as a Laker. And then everyone's like, what about the COVID Like, sorry, I don't, I don't acknowledge that as a real title.

But we kind of— what do we give Caruso? Do we give him half?

Yeah, he got half.

Okay.

So he already has another one. He's good.

Yeah, he's good. He's about to win another one. Yeah.

So, hey, what would you say? He's not going to count.

Like, when it's all said and done for him, he's going to be like, yeah, I got the two with the Thunder and then the bubble championship. He's never going to say I had—

It's like a side of hash brown.

I guarantee it's like a, it's like a hole-in-one on a par-3 course.

Yeah. Oh, you have a hole-in-one? Yeah, but it was par-3 course. Like, yeah, you have a championship? Yeah, but it was the bubble.

So what about the people that would say that it's actually harder to win in the bubble?

Because, because it was the truest—

the 15 people on the Lakers that year and their fans.

What would you say to them?

It wasn't—

there was no fans.

I'd say, but it was— maybe they would say it's the truest test of basketball because it was no fans for anyone.

Yeah, no, it's like, who cares about like the AAU fucking in city regionals. It's the same thing.

Oh, Anthony Davis was healthy for the first time in forever because he got to live in the same hotel and be in a bubble.

Maybe that's, that's not really that much of a knock about the guys that win a championship. Maybe Anthony Davis should be counted as an NBA champion. Maybe he's a great player. Maybe if he's healthy, he can be a great player.

If you want me to, I'll count him.

That's the thing.

That's the best part about the COVID You could just count whoever you want.

I think, I think Caruso gets one. I think Anthony Davis gets one.

Sure.

I think LeBron James—

Jimmy Butler gets one for even getting to the finals.

Yeah, LeBron James does not get one.

Yeah, this is the beauty of it, and it will piss people off. Ben Simmons, so upset about it.

Does Ben Simmons get one for throwing—

for missing the water when he threw the fish back?

Yeah, but that might have been like the peak of the Ben Simmons— is he going to be a savior? Yeah, so Ben Simmons gets a— gets a ring for the bubble. Now, Hank, I don't—

I— people— Dodgers didn't win a World Series either.

And like the golfers that won majors, like winning a major with no fans doesn't matter.

Exactly.

The NFL, Brady, there was fans at that game. Like there was like bubble. There was, there was some fans, right? That one doesn't count as like a COVID championship.

The thing about the bubble championship, LeBron James was pretty much— he was a player. He was also like the de facto union rep for every team. And he was also the de facto commissioner of the NBA. For about 2 months.

Now, my video game championships with Doug's, those all count. We all agree?

Yeah, because those weren't played in a bubble. Yeah, there were fans.

True. I just want to make sure that we're all on the same page. I won 5 times— actually, no, infinity times the amount of championships in the bubble as, as LeBron did.

Yeah, I think that I begin to adjust my expectations. I have now switched to thinking that he's going to retire and do YouTube golf full-time to now I think that he is going to, uh, not be a Laker next year, but he will play in the—

I think he's gonna play. I don't think he's gonna be a Laker.

Um, where would the funniest place be?

Hmm, Oklahoma City, Sacramento.

It would be so funny.

Wizards.

I mean, right now we're a pretty attractive landing spot.

Unreal.

Take a pay cut.

Wizards.

Yeah.

Would you trade your number one pick for LeBron?

You'd have to.

Yeah, just— yes, absolutely. Just, just wait. And I, I don't care.

That's not a real Wizards fan. Yeah, hold on, hold on, hold on, time out, time out.

That is—

get Bronny too.

Content first. Okay, I haven't done my terms. I haven't done my terms.

That is the fakest Wizards fan I've ever heard.

I'm content first. And having, having LeBron James do a one-year stint with KD going home, okay, to the Wizards. Yeah, but that's— these are part of my terms, so I would need Bronny. I would need the rights to Bryce Maximus, and I would need LeBron James to meet behind the scenes and do a banana boat picture with him, Bronny, Bryce, and KD and Trae Young and Chris Paul. Well, Trae Young's already on the team.

Chris Paul.

I'm thinking of your starting 5.

Chris Paul. Well, he's— he gets a ring anyways because he was a Wizard for like a month, a couple years.

Get Mellow as well.

No, those are the— those are the 4 that I would really want. And as a content-first person, I would have to accept that over like future building of the team. Um, but no, I think, I think LeBron will play next year. I think it could be with the Thunder, which would be the funniest thing ever.

Um, what about, what about the Clippers?

The Clippers?

Not an Eddie threw this out in Wake Up Barstool. The Clippers trading their pick and figuring out a way to get Giannis, Kawhi, and LeBron all kind of on the same timeline, which is crazy because LeBron is gonna be 42. The fact that like he even still has a timeline is a testament to just how insane this entire run has been. But that would be interesting.

Do you think the Clippers, uh, you think they've got a future in the Kawhi business?

I don't know.

It's a pretty big, uh, pretty big sword that's hanging on by a thread over their neck.

They're still making trees, aren't they?

They're making exactly as many trees as they made before.

Yeah, yeah, they need someone to rep those trees. Yeah. Either way, well, if LeBron does in fact retire, we will give all— we'll give them flowers then. Right now it's more fun just to say, uh, the COVID championship didn't count.

Yeah, I mean, I think you guys all agree, 41 years old, what can you say? What can you say?

What you— I'll tell you what you could say, the COVID championship didn't count.

What about, what about next year he goes to the Big 3 and it's him and his two sons on a team, the James Gang? I would watch that.

I will say LeBron, the— because there was the, the weird narrative that came out that was like, actually COVID was the toughest one to win. 2016 was the toughest hardest one to win. That was probably the most impressive title to win, down 3-1 to that Warriors team. Like, that, that— hey, tip my cap, LeBron. But either way, yeah, I hope it's not the last time. I like, I like watching him play. I like also the discourse that comes from it. He's not retiring. What if he wins? What if he stays? What if he plays one more year and then he wins one in the antivirus bubble? Um, And he just only can win in bubbles now.

Now he can only win.

Yeah, now he can only win in bubbles. Just think about that.

What if, what if the Bucks are like, you know what, we're not, we're not going to trade Giannis, we're going to keep him around, we'll try to get LeBron.

Hmm. That would be interesting.

That would be interesting.

Don't see LeBron in Milwaukee.

Why not?

What about what if, what if, what if, what if he went to Memphis? He's like, my bad, guys. I should have said all that shit. I'm going to come and do a farewell tour in Memphis.

Yeah, the LeBron apology tour.

Zach, you're, you're a big LeBron lover. Are you mad about what we've been saying?

Not upset. I would just like to go on record and say that a bubble championship is unprecedented territory. Never seen it before. And he got it done.

So for you, it counts.

I would like to count that as a ring.

Okay.

Well, I count like in like the, you know, in the '40s when like all the people were at war. Like, do you count those championships?

We almost lost the entire Earth and LeBron James was able to persevere and get a ring.

Wow.

That's nice.

The entire Earth was almost gone.

And I've heard what you said and I still don't count it.

And that's just two guys at odds.

Yeah. And you guys never see eye to eye when it comes to the COVID championship.

LeBron's one guy with four rings.

How many, how many lives did LeBron save?

Championship losses, though.

How many lives? But by having the entire NBA live in quarantine and isolation. He probably saved hundreds of thousands of lives across the country.

I would say also, uh, essential worker-wise, a lot of homes got to keep buying groceries. Shout out to the NBA.

He flattened the curve.

Good for the economy.

Yeah, LeBron James was responsible for flattening that curve.

I do wish— I wish LeBron fans would have a little bit of a sense of humor when it's like— when the longevity stats get thrown back at him, because they are funny. Did you see the stat that he's been— he's been swept in the playoffs in every single decade of his life? Wow, that's just funny. Like, that's not— if you, if you get upset about that stat, like, that's ridiculous because it's really just a stat saying LeBron has played so many years in the NBA, it's insane that he's still playing at 41. It's actually a positive stat. But yeah, you just tweet that out, people get very upset.

Okay, I'm gonna go through the list. So we've got, uh, we got the roster here for the 2020 Los Angeles Lakers so we can see who actually gets credit for that ring. Okay, okay, so we got LeBron James, No. Okay, uh, Avery Bradley?

No.

Uh, KCP?

Yes.

Alex Caruso?

Yeah, half.

Anthony Davis?

For you, yes.

Okay, thank you. Danny Green?

Yeah, why not.

Dwight Howard?

Yes, definitely.

Yes, thank you.

Maybe he gets some bronze.

Yeah. Kyle Kuzma?

Yeah, sure.

JaVale McGee? Yes, absolutely. He gets 2. JaVale gets 2.

Gets 2.

Markeith Morris?

Nah.

Rajon Rondo?

Yes.

Half.

J.R. Smith?

Full.

Dion Waiters?

Half.

Okay, that's fair. I think— I actually do think that that's a perfect representation of who should get it, get a ring for that.

Uh-huh, we nailed it. Um, what, Max?

There's rumors that the Wizards might trade Anthony Davis.

Oh, there's rumors? Oh, there's rumors. You've been reading— so you've been reading?

Also, this isn't gonna play. That's what I'm saying.

He's like, I love that you're riding and dying for a guy who may never play.

He's the healthiest he's ever been right now. I also— I don't know if you saw this— Anthony Davis took a break from doing his prank videos and he was out hitting some golf balls. He was wearing Wizards pants the other day.

Whoa. Yeah.

What are Wizards pants? Like actual Wizards pants or Washington Wizards?

That would rock if he was wearing like JNCOs on the course. No, they had— it had the Wizards logo on there.

They make those?

Congrats.

How do you not own those?

What, a pair of pants? Like a sweatsuit bottom? Yeah, I actually am. I am mesmerized that they make any merch at all with Wizards logos on them. That's shocking to me.

I know.

Um, but yeah, Max, he's going to play. We can pay him next year, and he wants to play for a team that's got a chance to compete. I feel like with this lineup, the Wizards will be fun enough to compete in the East.

I hope so.

Why do you think he— what, you think he wants to be traded? I don't think he wants to be traded.

He probably does, knowing him.

He gave an interview.

Would you want to play for the Wizards?

Be a fair counterpoint.

Don't look at me, Hank's one that said that.

This is some old, old-ass mindset you've got right now. The Wizards in the last 3 years have had a plan, and now the plan has come to fruition.

Lose.

And we've got, we've got morons like you that refuse to change your mindset, and you think of the Wizards the same way you've thought about them for the last 40 years. This is a new era in Wizards basketball in DC. We're going back to the '70s, Bullets ball. We've got a plan. We've got good pieces. We got a young core. And it's disgusting that you— Hank, I thought that you were a basketball mind. I thought that you understood the beautiful game, the sweet science. But you can— a dummy could look at this roster and say this roster is fun. Roster schmostered.

And franchise—

franchise schmostered me.

I just got schmostered.

You like—

you, you have forgotten what it's like because the Commanders got new ownership. They made a playoff run. But like the franchise before that was a joke. The Wizards franchise is a joke.

I'm fully aware. You will not— now you're like, oh no, it's different because my brain is capable of absorbing new information and changing my mind based on the facts. Yours isn't. You're stuck in 2016 mode. You're still waking up every day thinking about how to monetize a fucking dead gorilla. Oh, I'm over here.

True.

Yeah.

Yeah. Gorilla shmorrilla.

Gorilla schmarilla.

That was awareness.

Listen, there'll be plenty of time next year to talk about the Wizards. We don't need to talk about them anymore until the draft at least. But Anthony Davis is going to— he wants to play. He wants to be a Wizard. Yeah, who doesn't want to be a Wizard?

Can we— last thing on the LeBron thing, could we just agree, like, obviously some tongue-in-cheek going on, but the Lakers are 3 in terms of his 3 teams, right? It's Cavs 1, Heat 2, Lakers 3. Yeah, because he won 2 with the Heat. The 2016 is the most important championship he's ever won. I think LeBron would say that. And then bubble. Yeah, so he's going in as Cavs. I would agree. Going—

even though the NBA or the Professional Basketball Hall of Fame, you don't go in as in— we can say LeBron James go in. LeBron James is going in as a Cleveland Cavalier in this podcast's eyes. Yes.

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Henry, uh, my hot seat is just anyone, anyone that thinks Giannis is going to get traded. This is just the new thing with him, it's the trade, it's the trade deadline. All of a sudden it's— no, I know It's not a new thing. That's what I meant to say. Yeah, but it always ends up the same way. It's just a bunch of— I like—

didn't he—

wasn't there the whole thing where he was like, oh, prediction markets, prediction markets, and he just signed a big deal with Kaoshi? Yeah, it's all just smoke and mirrors. He's not going to get traded.

You think this is all a play for him to just cash in on his own future?

Who knows?

But I just— I'm not going to get, you know, I see all these reports. Everyone's— it's Shams. Shams is Who knows? He's compromised.

Thank you. But yeah, he is.

He's compromised.

I felt this about Sean.

I'm not listening. I'm not getting like letting myself get my hopes up or anything. Like he's going to stay in Milwaukee or he's not going to get traded.

Open for business is what Sean says.

That's exactly—

it was the exact same thing. Like at the trade deadline, you would have thought it was 99% he's getting traded. It was just a matter of who based on the reports. And then nothing happened.

I, I've thought this about Shams going back, like it was the start of last season when he put out that report being like Giannis almost got traded last off— I was like, what the fuck?

If he was gonna get traded, it would have been to the Knicks.

Yeah, what is the point of that report that Shams put out last year? I, I don't understand it. It was weird. And then everything since then from Shams has been very strange around Giannis. Um, so I think he's gonna get traded. They've said one of two things. This is what the Bucs say. This is straight from the Bucs. They say one of two things will happen. Either he will be extended or he'll be traded. So there you go.

Well, yeah, his extension is up this year, so that— yeah, yeah, they kind of have to.

So mystery solved.

But I actually think it might be both.

You think sign and trade?

Yeah, I think they're gonna extend him and then trade him.

I, I just think, like, if you're a Bucs fan, you want him to be traded, correct?

At this point, yes.

He's 31.

Like, I'm not saying that he doesn't have some years left, but what are you going to rebuild around?

You got to turn the page. And this is the best way to do it because you can get real assets and like jumpstart your next, your next like chapter. You got to trade him. You have to. It would be idiotic not to trade him at this point.

And you're in a market which like— and this actually is speaking for 90% of the NBA market that doesn't usually get free agents. That's— and again, that's not a knock on Milwaukee because the Bulls don't get free agents either. Like, there's, there's like 4 teams that get free agents. So do what you can right now to get draft picks.

So do you think that the Bucks are rooting for the Knicks to definitely lose in the championship, in the, uh, in the finals, so that they will see Giannis as being the missing piece?

I don't think the— I don't think the Knicks can trade for Giannis.

So the teams that were interested at the trade deadline were the Wolves, the Cavs, the Celtics, the Knicks, and the Lakers.

Does the Knicks have anything they could trade for Giannis?

I don't know. They were—

it would just be the entire team. Yeah, right, exactly.

But that, like, I feel like that's not even what the—

no, should be looking— no, they want, they want draft picks and young talent. And the—

you guys have already— the Knicks have already traded all their picks. Yeah, have no more picks.

But actually, no, no, you're in the middle of the playoffs. What are you doing, dude? The counterpoint would be like the Bucks fans, you get to be back in the Eastern Conference Finals with all these people. Get yourself composed.

No way.

They would not be back in the Eastern Conference. What?

The Knicks are currently—

But you don't have Jalen Brunson. But if you take all the players to that team, Eastern Conference Finals.

Wait, wait. So you're saying that— No, if you took—

He's actually right. If you trade the entire Knicks team, you're saying they would probably be in the Eastern Conference Finals.

But they wouldn't trade Jalen Brunson.

They would just be in Milwaukee.

But they wouldn't have their best player.

Or Giannis.

Yeah, but you're saying that the Knicks—

would the Knicks be in the Eastern Conference Finals without Jaylen Brown?

Actually, maybe.

Maybe.

Yeah. Do you want him, Hank?

No, I mean, he's not gonna get traded, so it doesn't matter.

You want Jaylen Brown? Yeah, right. You're pretty— you're match matching, but like the same color.

What's going on today?

Uh, I, I mean, you're browned out. I didn't know we're doing fashion.

No, I didn't either, but I just looked at you for a second, I was like, whoa.

I put on a hoodie and then I was like, oh, it's kind of— it's, it's a hoodie, might be too hot because it's like a little bit nice out. So I put on a layer, then I, and then I put it on, realized how much brown I had on, didn't care enough to, to change it into something else that made more sense. But yeah, that I did just— I audibled at the last second. Yeah, it works though.

Yeah.

If you're a UPS driver. Yeah.

Or like a big shit.

I mean, yeah, yeah, sure. Shit wouldn't be multiple colors. Browns.

That's not true.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Sounds like you don't do enough.

You have spotted. You got.

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

They know they change.

You're not going hard enough in the paint.

Sometimes you take a shit that's different.

Different times of the day.

No colors.

But I don't take like.

Oh, yeah.

No, one turd is going to be two-tone.

You take a shit that straddles two meals. It's like, okay, that's the end of lunch, start of dinner.

I mean, brown and yellow.

Yeah, it's like cutting open a tree and you can see how old it is.

Yeah. Or it's like Color Rush if you have something wacky. Yeah.

Two-tone dookie.

No, not me. But speaking of bathrooms and you, Big Cat, my cool throne is you.

Why?

Some people, not me, are saying that your, you know, your addiction of buying random things from random auctions is possibly concerning and maybe going to lead this office to a point of no return.

Who's saying that?

I'm just—

people online and not— yeah, who? Just— I've seen the discourse.

Hater Hank.

No, no, I'm not—

I'm not saying that you can golf and I can't buy.

I, I like it.

This, this—

you, you have a history of doing this. You used to buy park benches like this. Is this—

is this—

no, not a park bench. It's from Dominic's Grocery Store. Is it also a 1.5-seater?

Yeah. So this, this has been a thing. You, you get into these phases and, and then in a year we're like, oh, Why the fuck am I sitting on this like random couch from, you know, Iowa State 2003 wrestling team? But, but that's just how it goes. Who knows?

Okay. Uh, like a link to that.

But today and today I walked in the bathroom, there was like a bunch of construction guys. There's like flooding in our bathroom.

Wait, what?

And I was like, oh, sorry. They're like, oh, you can go. They're like, the trough's open.

Yeah.

They're like, you can piss. Well, like the toilets are fucked, but the trough is open. And I was like, Thank God we have this truck.

Okay. Yes.

So, yeah.

Okay.

All right.

Good. Yeah. You're welcome. Thank you.

So the urinals are busted.

Regular.

Did you not see the bathroom yesterday? It was a crime scene.

Really? If we didn't have the truck coming from the floor, where would we be?

But not the trough. The trough saved us. So, yeah, cool.

Throwing Big Cat.

Okay. All right. So who did that?

I don't know.

One of the construction worker guys.

I think that bathroom was had.

I think it was Max.

Yeah, probably.

Yeah.

Don't stop saying Max clogged the toilets and caused a flood. You did. Yes.

It was a crime scene, per Max.

Listen, you know me very well, Hank. We're just going to ride the wave on the shit I buy. I know. Eventually we're probably going to run out of either space or money. And then, but I have to do a reassess.

I also, and I appreciate this about you, like I'm, this is actually not hater, like I'm kind of the same way. It's like you get very into something for a stretch of time and then it just completely will go away. But like I'm saying, in a year that will still live on and it'll be like, oh yeah, this is like God knows what from God knows where. But like we have this in a small town. Couldn't tell you.

I got to— speaking of that, I got to think of something to do with mascot costumes because I got two more that are on the way.

Great.

Yeah.

Let's get it set up.

Can we get like a mannequin?

Maybe. Maybe we'll probably have like the bleachers from like the Nebraska softball team. We can just have that—

the softball.

We can put the mascots on sitting in seats.

Sounds great.

Like we can have a permanent audience.

Sounds great. Oh, that sounds actually awesome.

On the blue turf.

Get mannequins.

Yeah, well, I should—

mannequins. I should put the mascots in.

We put— we're going to need more than, than like 5 mascots because that's going to look really empty if we only have 5 mascots watching us.

Hank, think about this. Hey, think about this. So I've been talking to Boise State football. I purchased the 10, the number 10 from the blue turf. In, in talks, we have agreed for me to be able to purchase enough that we could re-turf the entire side of the office. So it's going to be whole blue turf. On that entire side.

They're just banging you.

I don't see it that way.

It's like, well, you could pay more.

I disagree. I do not see it that way.

There was a video.

Here's where we make money. What if we then sell our turf?

No one will buy.

Yeah. Oh, you don't think anyone would buy the Barstool Chicago HQ turf? No, I would. Who?

They're—

it's turf.

Yeah, like, like your house.

Like, and I'm not, I'm not trying to like talk out a potential buyer of the Barstool turf. If I were, you would be like, it's green turf. You could just buy green turf.

No way.

It's like Boise State blue turf. We could just buy blue turf.

No, you need the official. It needs to be official. This is where LeGarrette Blount punched the Boise player.

Was that—

I'm going to say that.

Was that at home? That was, that was a home game on the 10-yard line specifically.

I'm going to say it. You could say it.

How often do they re-turf their field?

This is the first time ever, as far as I can tell.

It's never been done.

Yeah, I want some more stuff. The problem is I got my guy, my right-hand guy, Stephen Chase. He doesn't really understand what I want, so he keeps sending me stuff. He sent me just a big giant 7-Eleven sign, and it was cool, but I was like, that's just free advertising.

Pizza o'clock.

What?

Pizza o'clock.

Oh, that's what Shane really wants.

Okay, we can get that for the boy if they exist.

He got scared.

He got scammed out of a Pizza Hut.

Remember this?

Oh yeah, he tried to buy my—

got scammed.

He became obsessed with the Pizza Hut clock.

Like, we were in the 1980s. Yeah, like, we didn't even know if it ever—

that's right, I forgot about that. But yeah, I'm open for business if anyone's got some crazy large memorabilia. It's got to be, uh, stupid though. Like, I don't want I don't want shit that's like actually memorable. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Like, we need, we need dumb stuff, stuff that actually has no meaning. Look, Aaron Blount did get punched on the 10, or did the punch on the 10. Fuck yes. Thank you. Bang. Is that true?

Let's get him in here.

Watch a video. Okay, great. So that exactly, that's what I bought.

The Jaguars. That was the Super Bowl with the Eagles and the Patriots, right?

Jaguars. Yeah.

Do they—

did they have field turf at the time? Because if so, I would like to purchase a spot where McNabb threw up.

Oh no, they had—

no, that was in Jacksonville.

There's grass in Jacksonville.

Yeah, dude, I mean, the Jaguars are doing renovations. Imagine if we bought the pool.

Yeah, how sick would that be?

They had a pool.

They're not getting rid of the pool. If we just had a pool on the second level, you know what they do? They call it—

what?

Hey, no, I'm saying we could turn the— we could turn that room into a pool, into just what they have.

Yeah, into the Jaguars pool.

It's actually a spa.

Everyone has to— there has to be someone that we could sell tickets.

Like, hey, want to come watch us play Friday basketball in our pool?

Yeah, you gotta wear jeans out of respect.

It's, again, it's the spa. They specifically do not call it the pool in Jacksonville.

It's a spa. I would like that pool. I would like that pool.

It's a spa.

Uh, okay, PFT, your hot seat. Good job, Hank.

Thanks.

Spirited debate.

Uh, my hot seat is racism. Oh, racism's dead.

NFL?

No, Lane Kiffin killed it. So shout out to Lane Kiffin. Gave a big interview yesterday and kicked the hornet's nest, really stirred up some rivalries. So, I mean, the way that he left Ole Miss, they were not going to be happy with him. But then he does this interview with Vanity Fair and makes a remark about how he had recruits that would visit him at Ole Miss and their parents and grandparents would be uncomfortable with going to Ole Miss because of the history of racism. Now Lane is now the coach of the LSU Tigers, which the state of Louisiana has its own issues. I don't know if you guys are familiar with this, with maybe some racism in the past. And the two schools are now arguing with each other over who is least racist, Mississippi or Louisiana, which is a lot like the debate they get in every year when the educational rankings come out, when they're like, as long as we can finish above Mississippi, we're happy.

Yeah, I actually— I— so I've followed this story. I don't think it's exactly— that's not exactly the argument. I think what I've distilled from this argument is LSU saying, Ole Miss, you're more racist than us, and Ole Miss saying, nah, we're the same.

Yeah, we're both. That's probably true. Yeah. But it's a fun debate. It started like Lane is not having that debate. Yeah, he's—

no, no, this is what it's become.

Lane was saying that there were some grandparents that didn't want their kids to go there because of Ole Miss history. And then— but Lane also was happy to recruit those, recruit people while he was at Ole Miss for a long time. And then he goes to LSU and now it's an issue. He's at LSU. So now people are like, why are you waiting until now to say it, etc., etc.? And then the fans online start to— and then at that point it becomes, yeah, well, here's the demographic breakdown of Oxford, Mississippi. Correct. Yeah. Well, you— the Tigers are named after a battalion in the Civil War. And so now it's just like it's just a flame war back and forth.

And Lane came out and had a comment today where he was just like, I did a 4-hour interview and they asked about everything. And that's unfortunately like when you do an interview like that, they're going to pick the writer knew.

Yeah.

They're like when he asked something about that, it's going to be a story. So that's what they led with.

And then Lane did say there probably was people like grandparents and grandparents.

It wasn't like that's all he left.

Yeah. No, it's not why he left at all.

But yeah, with every, every school has something they have to deal with when recruiting. Recruiting. Well, like, no matter what, like whether it be location, culture, anything, like that's just a part of the job.

And I think it's fair to say, like, if you ask grandparents of kids that are, that are being recruited right now, like, what was the reputation that Ole Miss had back in the 1960s, that's probably a very, very common thing that people do say. Um, but then Lane said, I hope my comment came across respectful to Ole Miss. So like the next day he met up with the guy for more interview And then he was like, hey, I've been thinking about this overnight. I hope that what I said was respectful. He knew that this was coming at some point.

Yeah.

But yeah, it does. It feels like now we're getting into a tale of the tape of who's less racist.

Yeah.

LSU versus Ole Miss. And I'm—

we got—

I'm enjoying— well, we can do the tale of the tape. No, you want to do the tale of the tape on that?

I don't.

What's the least racist thing each university is known for? I think Ole Miss, when they, they had that viral moment when they were thinking about changing their mascot to the guy from Star Wars, that was just— that was good, clean fun. LSU, probably the Get the Gat video from the White House. Yeah, that was like a beautiful celebration of diversity. Hot is also hot, which helps. It's like Harvard and MIT. If they're arguing over like who accept less money from Epstein.

Mm-hmm.

Ohio State.

Wexner.

Yeah, yeah, that's the answer.

Yeah.

Okay, your cool throne?

Uh, yeah, so then my cool throne is hockey. Being hockey tough. Yeah. Because, uh, I don't know if you guys saw the hockey game last— it was a great hockey game. Like the third period, obviously the Avs poured it on the Wild, uh, once they pulled the goalie. But McKinnon taking a puck to the chops. Like, it was like upper chops, lower nose, was spitting out blood everywhere. And then he comes in, hits, uh, Empty Netter at the end. But it was, it was a great game.

He was, he was hurt for like maybe a half a second. Like, he, you, like, when he gets hit, he goes down, he holds his face, and then when he gets, when he, when he lifts his face, he's more just like, goddamn it, like, I'm gonna have to deal with this blood now. Yeah, he's just right back in the game.

He was more pissed off. He had, he had the human reaction though, which is like you get hit in the face and then it takes your body a half second to be like, oh no, this is really bad.

Yeah.

Like, let's drop the stick. Let's see what's going on with my chiclets.

Yeah.

And then he, yeah, then comes back in. But yeah, the abs, they're nasty. Yeah.

Great hockey. The abs here was awesome.

This was a very, very good hockey.

Hughes just ran out of gas.

It is.

Oh no, it's not.

It's like they— I just didn't play hockey, so I'm all— and we joke about it with the conditioning and stuff, but it's like No, they're full-on sprinting.

They're dead. Don't ever let Ryan Whitney hear this part.

Yeah, him playing 32 minutes. But you could like— he couldn't move his body towards the end. Yeah, it was like he just wasn't. It's like, why isn't he getting to the puck? It's like, oh yeah, like his legs are probably literally jello.

They're just— they're doing all-out sprints. And also the whole time they're sprinting, being like, oh, I might get fucking smashed in the face.

How many of these guys are 41, though?

True. Right.

Good point.

Good point. Okay. My hot seat is Bucs owner Wesley Edens, because one, they're going to trade Giannis. I think we all agree. And then two, they didn't get the— they didn't get any lottery luck. And then three, he was being extorted by a woman that he met on LinkedIn DMs, which is the most unromantic thing you could ever do. In the world.

That's where it goes down.

Is he a billionaire?

He's a billionaire. Oh, so apparently he was divorced, so he was single, had sex with a woman. Woman then was like, uh, I videotaped us and like I did all this stuff, and then basically she was like, I want money. Uh, the whole thing, just bad, bad times for Wesley Edens. Just, dude, LinkedIn DMs are just— yeah, LinkedIn DM's not where you want to be.

I, I just gotta have a billionaire friend that can tell you how to do it.

So have an assistant just control your Instagram DMs.

Yeah, I just assume that everybody on LinkedIn is a bot.

That's more Instagram now. Instagram's got a lot of bots.

There's a lot of that too. But I would like to know what her pickup line was on LinkedIn because like, it's weird how people log into different social media sites and they're just in a different mood. Like you behave differently on LinkedIn than I would assume people would behave on Instagram, right?

I would actually—

is that, is that the new— is that where it goes down now? We're like LinkedIn has become the horny hookup site?

I don't know, but I would probably pay the extortion amount just so that people didn't know that I was hooking up with chicks from LinkedIn.

But it might be the—

you know what I mean? Like, I'd be like, you know what, here's a couple million. Let's not talk about the LinkedIn DMs.

Between this and JP Morgan, that might be the new place to go to get laid, though.

Yeah, it's horny out there. LinkedIn DMs.

So she tried to blackmail him based on— did he, like, send nudes too?

No, they hooked up. They had sex and then she— and then she was— then she like kind of did some weird stuff and he ended it. And then she was like, yeah, he's— I videotaped it all. And then also claimed an STD and wanted like a billion dollars. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. LinkedIn DMs, stay away.

There's a lot of— I just don't see blackmail working against a single NBA owner.

No. No, let's see what the— let me see.

Oh, she's getting sued. Yeah.

Yeah. No, it's reverse. Yeah. No, she, she tried to blackmail him. Yeah. Bad times. LinkedIn DMs. And then my cool throne is Jon Rahm because Jon Rahm was asked about what he learned from the decision to leave the PGA Tour and join LIV Golf. And he said, that's for me to know. And that's about that.

Okay. So that should settle it.

Yeah.

No more questions.

Good answer.

No more. The media will now back off.

Liv. He literally just did the, the, the like grade school— I know you are not telling you, I'm not telling you, I know, I ain't saying.

300 mil. You think he's going back?

Hey, no, I think he's gonna do DP World Tour.

Yeah. Max, what are your thoughts on Liv?

Don't care.

I think he's going back.

Yeah, he's going back. He's definitely going back.

They'll figure it out.

I don't think he's gonna— not next year. I think the PGA will be like, you're Jon Rahm, he wants to play in the Ryder Cup, he can play in the DP World Tour to play in the Ryder Cup.

And that way you can do the road to Dubai, right?

That is the world.

Yeah, all roads lead to Dubai, and that's the most important thing.

Like Rory taught us that.

Yeah.

Do you see Rory also said this course is not— he's like, you don't have to think at all.

They're all saying that.

Yeah, we're gonna have Shane Bacon on just a second.

Just bomb it.

I love it. That actually sounds great for Brooks.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That sounds really good.

Don't think— Zach, finish us off.

My hot seat this week is going to be Ronda Rousey because she's returning to the Octagon after like 3,400 days. She's got a chance to maybe right the ship and get a win.

She's broke.

That is true. Maybe. I don't know. I'm not in her pockets like that. This could be a money play, but also could be two women duking it out.

Maybe it's just the passion.

Yeah, she really wants to fight as a 40-year-old woman. How old is she?

I think she's 39. Her opponent may be 44.

Wait, who is she fighting?

Gina Carano.

Oh yeah, I mean, that would be an awesome fight 10 years ago.

I mean, they look in shape, they look fight ready, so I thought it could be exciting. But fair enough.

Where are they going to fight?

Inglewood.

There's a ring or something. Yeah, it's like the Octagon.

It's right down the street where we're doing the—

is it boxing?

I thought initially that it was in the cage, but could be boxing just because the age. And that's on me for not being a good fight guy.

I don't know, Hank, you're an expert.

It's on Netflix.

No, it's— yeah, it's MMA.

Never mind.

You're an expert, Hank.

What do you say?

What a plug it is.

It's on Netflix. Great plug. Way to go.

We should—

Hank should do a Manningcast for this fight on Netflix.

You are her UFC guy.

Yeah, just solo.

I thought it was just boxing because anytime anyone tries to do something else later on in life, they're like, we'll just box because boxing is— you can't get as hurt, you know what I mean?

Wait, is it, is it UFC?

Yeah, yeah.

All right, what's MMA, right? It's not a UFC. It can't be UFC fight.

No, it's him. No.

Yeah, yeah, it's at Mixed Martial Arts, uh, Intuit Dome, I believe, which is like right down the street from the YouTube Theater.

So you're gonna do a— you're gonna do a live stream?

Uh, we'll have to talk to, to Netflix. What, what's the date of it?

We can do that right now.

Saturday.

I'll send an email.

Yeah, it's gonna be P Netflix this Saturday? Yes, sir.

Oh, okay, great. You don't have plans?

Hank, who do you got?

Probably Ronda Rousey, right?

Yeah, it's probably— I think the last—

actually just fly him out there.

You want to go?

Yeah, you should just do a live stream. Sure, IRL.

Fly me out there.

Okay. Okay.

You won't?

Dude, are you—

are you— are you—

I'll do anything.

Are you a UFC guy or not?

This isn't UFC. I am actually— I actually, I am our UFC guy, and I actually don't want to do a conflict of interest. All right, but if you guys want me to, I will.

There's no conflict. How is that a conflict?

I'm a UFC guy.

It's actually—

I'm only interested in UFC.

No, you're an MMA guy.

UFC.

No, MMA. Combat sports, actually. It's all combat sports. Guess the last time that Gina Carano fought.

2014.

No. 2009. Oh my God. She hasn't fought since 2009.

Wow.

But she probably misses it too, for the love of the game.

Yes. All right, cool throne.

My, my cool throne this week is going to be the former FaZe Media guys because they rebranded and things are going swimmingly. Have you guys seen that?

I did.

I have not.

I'm balls deep in this.

Balls deep.

Mm-hmm.

You have any takeaways?

I mean, I think I'm excited to see what they're going to be putting out.

Who's your favorite guy?

My favorite phase of the—

yeah, of the new— the core group.

I like Snuffy Phase, the young core. I like them all. They got a lot of assets and some key veteran pieces.

I like Ghostface.

That's actually true.

Yeah, yeah.

Ghostface.

Ghostface is awesome. Yeah, Phase of Music.

Spidey Phase.

Spidey Phase.

Yeah, Spidey Phase. It's one of the phases.

What about the Ween?

The Ween. I like the Ween. I like Weezer. I like the—

yes, Ween. Who else we got?

Stable.

Yes. Still Ronaldo.

Stable. Sable.

Stay around a generational talent.

Dan Cable.

Maybe Silky.

All these guys.

Yeah.

Silky.

Silky.

Silky.

Silky.

Yeah.

Scruffy.

They do sound like just Scruffy. No Limit rebranded for the, for the 2020s.

Is there Scruffy or no?

No, sir.

Okay.

There's Stable.

So, yeah, I know. I know everything they're up to, Zach. But you want to tell the audience, like, from your perspective what they're doing?

I just thought that I thought The rebrand was impressive because they like the— they dropped the first YouTube video, did like 2.5 in the first 3 days. They flipped the followers on the old FaZe account.

Does that say 7-year-old?

He's an adult male. The people get out of hand with the captions. Oh, they'll just put anything in there.

Okay.

Yeah, new house.

Neymar Ronaldo is his name.

Yes, sir.

Now, Zach, you know me, I'm a— I'm a nadeshot guy. So where does Nate Shot have beef, or is he— is he friendly with—

no, no beef, no beef whatsoever.

Okay, no conflict.

All right, so for the record, if it involves a beef with Nate Shot, I'm taking Nate Shot.

What about Banks though? You're going Banks or Core?

I'm an MRX guy. Me, that's me, that's just me talking. All right, good job, Zach.

PFT, uh, Nadeshot's been, uh, doing fantastic on CS:GO, uh, on Faceit recently.

Yeah, he's a GOAT.

He's been— he's been fucking it up.

He's a GOAT.

All right, good job, boys. Let's get to our interviews.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guest. He is 5-time major champion, our good friend Brooks Koepka, getting ready for the PGA Championship. Brooks, first of all, great to see you. It's been too long. Anything happened since we last seen you?

No, I don't think so. I don't think anything's happened. It's been quite quiet.

Just hanging out.

Yeah. Yeah, just hanging and doing nothing. Yeah.

I've seen you around.

Just hanging around, waiting my turn to start to play an event.

Yeah. I've seen you hanging around a lot of clubhouses, just like seeing if you can get a tee time. You should try to reserve those in advance.

Yeah, I know. I probably should. Sitting around waiting's not the most fun.

Wait, real question. When you do that, what are you thinking about? Are you just on your phone the whole time? Are you, is there like a game that you've been playing to keep yourself occupied?

How's that go?

No, I actually— at RBC, I actually fell asleep in that chair.

Yeah.

And I realized then when everyone started texting me that I was— I looked miserable, and I was like, oh crap, I'm asleep. So then I just went to the car and slept.

I don't think you missed—

you didn't look miserable, you just looked bored. I think everybody— that was like a very human thing. It's like, yeah, he's got to be so bored.

Yeah, yeah. I honestly actually doubt I did not touch my clubs that day. I literally just sat around for— yeah, I don't think I got out of a seat or the driver's seat for about 7 or 8 hours. Is it—

is it like, going back to this, it's got to feel a little weird because it's like you've won 5 majors, you're Brooks Koepka. Are you— are you enjoying it a little bit where it's like, hey, yeah, obviously it's not ideal, but it's like, I, I know what's gonna— I know what I have to do and I'll be back sooner than later? And it's kind of like you never thought you'd be sitting waiting for, see if you were invited into a tournament. But there's also a part of it's like, I don't know, it's kind of cool. Like not humbling, but like kind of cool that you get to experience this again.

It's, it's definitely humbling, but, uh, honestly it's kind of fun though. You just get to sit around and watch everybody do their routines, kind of figure it out. But it's, I don't know, it's kind of motivating too at the same time cuz you're just watching everybody else play and you're like, I have zero chance of playing.

Yeah.

So, yeah, sitting there is not a bunch of fun, but hey, I'm practicing. I get to go. I mean, I went to Hilton Head for, I don't know, 48 hours and then drove up and down from Miami, I don't know, 3 different times in a matter of 2 days. So a lot of, a lot of traveling going on, but it's a lot of fun, man. It's cool. It's good to be back.

Yeah. I'm trying to put a positive spin zone on it. I feel like you still are playing golf and you're still playing really good golf. You shot, You shot 29 on the back 9? Yeah, that's insane. Were you in the zone?

Yeah, no, it was good. Honestly, you're gonna laugh, it was the worst 64 I've ever shot.

It was—

I don't know, I hit the ball unbelievably, like, uh, like in those video games, like back in like the Tiger Woods thing. You just— I hit it to like 5 to 10 feet all day and just didn't hold a putt on the front 9. And then, uh, I don't know, the back nine I actually made a few putts, which is nice. And the next thing I know— I actually was thinking about that, funny enough. I had, I don't know, like a 3-footer on the last one. I was like, I wasn't sure if I'd ever shot 29 before, like even in practice, but I was told I did it once.

That's—

so that was pretty cool.

Yeah. How low could it have been?

I was legit— I was legit worried. I was like, dude, if you missed this putt for 29, it's gonna look real bad.

Yeah. Oh yeah, we would have trashed you.

30 would have looked real bad.

Like, what did you have an actual chance at shooting that day?

If you had made everything like inside, call it 5 feet, uh, every—

if I'd have made everything inside probably 8 feet, probably 60 maybe.

Yeah, it's pretty—

I don't know, it was, it was legit. I felt like I was a video game that whole day. Everything was just online, everything was good. And then I got to the putting green and I have no clue.

Hey, does it ever pop in your head when you're playing, maybe when you're sitting waiting, uh, you know, to, to get into one of these tournaments, do you ever, ever pop in your head PFT got an eagle and beat you in a hole straight up?

Yeah. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

There's, there actually was a moment, funny enough. Um, Hank was brought up the other day because Hank played with my caddy. I don't know, Hank, when was that? Like what?

February?

2 months ago?

Yeah.

Yeah. And I think at one point somehow Ricky was like, how did you let those guys beat you? Like it was that big.

Uh-huh.

How? He was like, you can't be serious. Like, I mean, He goes, I've watched you play a lot, but they beat you. I'm like, yeah, yeah, they smoked me too.

Yeah. And Hank also told us after that, that your caddy was just like, what the hell is up with this Blake of the Year shit? Like, why do they keep saying this?

It is amazing to me to this day. I think I would say once a week somebody I'm playing with is like, hey, can you explain this Blake of the Year thing? I'm like, yeah, you just got to be good at really nothing and then just hang around. Be named Blake, and that's about it.

Yeah. And by the way, this year we have high hopes for you because the last few years you've been traveling like abroad and stuff. This might be the first time you get to compete for Blake of the Year when you're actually in America in a good time zone.

It, it could be. When, uh, when are we doing it? That's the question.

It's always the British Open.

Yeah, no, it's always the British Open week, and I'm always away, and I'm like, oh.

We try to do it early in the day, but then we got, we got some other Blakes that might be on West Coast time. So it's really, you're, you're at a disadvantage when you compete in the Open Championship. Maybe we can do it like a week early. We can record it. Yeah.

Yeah. We gotta give you a chance to be the theme for this year.

Just at a disadvantage.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But you've been playing good. Like you, you feel, you feel good cuz historically the PGA Championship, that's, that's Brooksie time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, it is. It is. It feels good to, uh, to be at a PGA Championship. I like it playing good. Honestly, just got a new putter this week. Week. Um, so we're trying one out, uh, new TaylorMade, which would be pretty good. And then, uh, hopefully—

did you break your old putter? Did the putter break?

Yeah, the putter just broke.

Yeah, he wouldn't break the putter.

Yeah, I would, I would never do that. It just kind of— there was a curb that got in the way. I kind of tripped up, and next thing you know, it was, it was a little crooked. Tried to bend it back, and next thing you know, it's Yeah, it didn't look right.

He was testing the putter. Yeah. And the putter fit.

Yeah.

The durability, the durability was phenomenal. Yeah. Those things.

I saw, I saw a comment you made that I never even thought about. You were talking about like the technology and like the equipment trucks that are on the PGA Tour versus where you were. Like, is that, that's, was that shocking when you got back and you're like, oh shit, there's all this stuff that I haven't tested yet?

Yeah. So they had, they had a truck on LIV, but it, it basically, the guy Ben who was running it, he had a bunch of my old equipment— or not my old equipment, but like backup sets, or like a backup set of irons, some wedges, things like that. But I never had the opportunity to be like, oh wow, like there's a whole bunch of putters sitting here on the green and I'm not putting well, I can try this. Or if there's a driver, a new driver that comes out, and I can test that and see where that's at. So yeah, it's a bit weird, and come back, you're kind of overwhelmed because 'cause you go down the line and I think there's probably, if I had to guess, probably like this week, 10 to 12 trucks. So you can, yeah. So imagine, you know, each of them probably have 3 or 4 drivers. So if, you know, if you want to try to test something, it's available. And yeah, it just helps always being a little fresher.

Yeah.

'Cause you were gonna switch up your irons too. And I remember you said that you, when you practice, is it on the range, you only hit the even numbers or the odd numbers?

The odd. I'm more of an odds guy.

So when you're, when you're thinking about switching up all of your irons, are you also at least trying out the evens?

Yeah, I, I think I only hit the evens when I'm on the course. I don't think I've ever really hit them in a practice setting. It's funny because I was looking at my irons the other day and the 9-iron, 7-iron are getting to the point where I'm like, I got to get a new set because they're, they're quite worn.

And the 8 looks like just brand new.

Yeah, the 8 looks fresh.

That's awesome.

That's awesome. Do you think about that when you're on the course? Like, because for, for those of us that stink at golf, it's like we get obsessed with like the certain clubs that we like and we'll find any reason to hit a 7-iron because it's like, oh, I feel comfortable with a 7-iron. When you're on the course, are you like, I'd rather hit the 6 because I practice with that more?

No, no, never gets to that point. Hopefully, hopefully it's not like that, but you can kind of tell because I remember at one point, it's usually right around US Open, I think I changed my irons. So we're coming up like on that time anyways in a month, but like it'll get worn out where Ricky's like, it doesn't really matter. You can hit 9 iron or 8 iron. It's gonna go the same distance cuz there's no grooves on it. It won't spin.

I was, I, I was asking Ricky about that and he said the, the US Open at Shinnecock, like on 17, like a par 3, he was like, just hit the 9-iron because it's basically an 8-iron.

That's crazy.

And that's what you did, like center of the green, sealed the victory.

Yeah, yeah. Because they are— I think, I think when we go to Europe for the British Open, that's like a fresh set of clubs. So it's always right after US Open, right before. It kind of depends just how much I'm practicing.

Yeah.

But yeah, it's, um, Yeah, it's coming up on the time.

How does the new putter feel? Because I, I feel like, uh, everything I've read from this course this weekend, it's like it's gonna just be all putting. Like Rory even said, like, everyone can just bomb it and you don't have to think much off the tee box, but then where you land it and then putts is going to be the, the tournament. So does the putter feel good? Is it— is the new putter like, you're like, oh, this is something, something that I can work with?

It feels good right now. Um, after Thursday, after Thursday or Sunday's round, I'll let you know.

Okay.

If I'm holding the trophy, it went pretty well.

Yeah. Yep. I'd say so.

That's the way I look at it.

Well, you'll have to be on the show, so you'll tell us on the show on Sunday night when you're holding the trophy. How are you feeling overall though about this tournament? Because it— we, we had Shane Bacon on as well. He had you as one of the guys that could win this tournament. The, the like course, like, are you— do you feel comfortable with the course? You played it a few times. Are you feeling good about it?

Yeah, I, we played it back in 2018, but I think I, I, you probably have to look this up, but I think it was the last time the PGA was in August. So it was like 2 weeks after we won in '18. So it was kind of a, I don't wanna, yeah, it was, yeah, yeah. It was a bit of a hangover.

Yeah.

Um, so it was a bit of a blur. Like there was sometimes I stepped up in the tee boxes and I was like, I can't remember this hole at all. and then other times I was like, oh, I, I'm very familiar with this hole. Um, it was the back nine, a couple holes I just had no clue. I don't even remember them. But it's, um, it's a good golf course. Honestly, if you hit the ball long, like you said, Rory said, um, if you hit it long, you're gonna have a good chance. A lot of wedges and just a putting competition.

Yeah. What is, uh, is Philly a good golf town?

It's a good sports town, honestly. Is it?

Is it though?

Is it?

Because it's not a basketball town.

This is, this is leading, leading questions.

Leading questions.

He already said it's a good sports town.

Objection. That's a good objection, Matt.

Baseball town right now, I think. Maybe football.

Okay.

Baseball team's hot. Baseball team's hot.

Okay. Cause yeah.

But yeah, you know, it was disappointing. I was kind of hoping, I was like, man, maybe we'll go in and go watch a hockey game or a Sixers, 76ers game. And then Both of them got swept, so that's not really bad.

Double sweep.

I, I don't know if you saw the clip that came out. It was, I think it was the, the Netflix series, but it was, uh, right after the players, and it was, uh, Akshay, and I forget who he was talking to, but they were amazed by the fact that you don't carry a yardage book ever. Um, is that, is that really that strange that you don't even think about yardages?

I think I'm probably the only— I, to my knowledge, the only tour player that doesn't. I, I think it was back in 2016 or '17, I just found myself— I would look at— I'd look up from like 150 yards and look down in the book, and I'm like, this pin looks like it's in the bunker. You can't miss it short, you can't miss it right. And then you look up and you're like, wow, that pin's not really that tucked. And it just like gave me all these those thoughts. I'm like, uh, who cares, just make it more reactive. Like, I think of it as like anybody else, you just ball a piece of paper up and you just throw in the trash can, you look like Kobe, and then all of a sudden, you know, you start thinking about it and it's just brick city.

Yeah.

So by not, not knowing the yardage whatsoever, you just say like, hey, like, whatever club you want to give me, just give me the club, let me just hit the ball?

Yeah, a lot of times. I mean, I, I even have the club out before Ricky even tells me the yardage. Like, you can kind of just eyeball it and have a good idea within like 10, 15 yards of what it is, looks like it's maybe a 9-iron, 8-iron, whatever it is. And then Rick— yeah, it's up to Rick. So if he doesn't, uh, give the right number, yeah, a lot of trouble because I'm not backing them up.

Yeah, right. Yeah. What are you gonna say, Hank?

No, nothing.

The, uh— so, so how, how often in a round are you, are you and Rick like disagreeing? Or is it very, very like not very often that you guys actually sit there and be like, all right, I want to shoot this, you want me to shoot this? Like, I'm going my way, you're going your way, whatever kind of thing?

It kind of— it doesn't happen very often. There might be twice a tournament, maybe once a tournament, where it's, it's like, hey, I think it's a hard 7. He's like, I think it's a 6. We go back and forth, and it just kind of depends if— usually he'll give his re— you know, you give like a 10-second reasoning why. It's like, hey, listen, there's 10 long at the pin, it should be fine. Or I give my reasoning of why, and then you just kind of talk it out and figure it out from there. And usually there's a good miss, so you're just trying to miss on that side.

Yeah, you guys got to keep— if I were a professional golfer, I would definitely keep track of like, all right, I'm gonna let you go this time, but I'm keeping tally of like whether you're right or wrong.

Oh yeah, it's one of those things where it's kind of funny, like I hear Rick joke about it, all the caddies laugh about it. It's like, it doesn't matter if the player screws it up, it's like, oh wow, I felt good about it. Then the second the caddy screws it up, it's like, I did everything I needed to do, that was on you.

Yeah. Um, I want to play a game with you, it's called I Put Your came into Google and did news, what do you think the top result is? Oh, um, kind of a scary topic.

I don't know. I'm kind of afraid.

I don't know.

I haven't done that. I'll tell you.

All right. So this is another humbling thing for you. The top— this— the top result for Brooks Koepka and you click the news tab is Kepka's wife Jenna Sims flaunts insane award-winning bikini bod in new SI Swim. That's pretty cool.

Yes, it is. It is pretty good. I actually saw the photos came out today. So yeah, I guess they came out at 8 AM. So we were, I was getting ready to leave for the course and I stopped and she was showing me all the photos. It was pretty good. She looks great.

How do you get an award-winning? Who gave the award? Oh, fuck yeah. Can we give one to Blue Ribbon? Can we say PMT gives an award? Yeah.

Yeah. Honestly, like I said, Jerry would have given her an award if she would have showed up for the—

it's not the body. That's just the toes.

Just the toes. Yeah.

But that's good. Like, you know, you're about to play the PGA Championship, but that's the first thing. That's actually a good, good thing. Like, you could say whatever you want. It'll be SI Swim will lead the story.

Yeah.

No, it's great.

But I mean, at one point you had an award-winning body as well when you were in the bodies issue.

You.

Yeah. Like you were actually fully nude.

Yeah. Yeah. That was, that was a long time ago.

Yeah.

That was, that was a long time ago.

Those are some strange pictures. Looking back on that, are you like, I'm really glad I did that so I can be like, look how, look how jacked I, I, I was when I was younger.

I'm, I'm glad I did it. I wish it would've been a little warmer out when we did it. Yeah. But yeah, it's, I'll leave it up to Jenna to do all that stuff now.

Yeah.

She got an award-winning body. Zach, do you got a question? We got— since, since you last been on, I don't think you— I don't think you've ever met Zach. Zach's a Florida boy.

I mean, I've seen Zach through all the, uh, the videos, but I don't know if we've actually officially met.

But yeah, he's a star.

We got— we got the glasses back.

Uh, I've got an alternate pair today, Brooks, but it's nice to virtually meet you.

Yeah, the stripper still has his other glasses.

He swallowed.

Yeah, they're gone, boys.

Brooks, I was curious, uh, But, uh, being that you did go to Florida State and you are from Florida, uh, during your time in Tallahassee, were you more of a Palace Saloon guy or a Coliseum guy?

Uh, Palace guy.

That's good to know. You're a good man.

Oh, that's a good question.

I think we used to tailgate at the Palace.

Um, yeah, great parking lots, football games.

I think we used to go like early in the morning and just set up. We'd put a truck and a keg in the back and we'd go to practice and then just our coach would leave and then we'd make sure he just didn't go the direction where he could see us and we'd hightail it out of there and go, go straight to Palace. We logged in a few hours there.

I love that for you.

You got any gas station, uh, questions for him?

I was kind of curious, uh, if you're not in competition mode and you were hitting the course like maybe with your boys on a day out of the course trying to, you know, get some shots in, if when you're hitting that turn at 9 going to the back 9, is there like a— is there a 1-1 of like eats that are available? Like, if you, you see a snack cart and it's like, oh, I really hope they have this today, was there like— is there a number one choice for you on that?

Uh, yeah, the bar, whatever they have behind there.

Yeah, tequila, anything, liquid lunch, whatever.

Yeah, I would say it's more of a liquid turn if we're gonna do that.

You gotta stay light on your feet. You can't get bogged down, Zach.

It's a good day with the boys. You're right, that's why you're the professional.

Is there a Is there a place in or around Tallahassee that hypothetically if we were stopping through that we should make sure to stop by? Ooh.

Oh, what's the name of the bar? I remember it used to be, they used to play like '80s music on Thursdays. It's pretty good. I'm drawing a blank in the name. I actually took Ricky to that bar a couple years ago. We went to a football game. I was like, dude, we gotta go to the old stomping grounds. Go. We went to a few of them. I think AJ's is no longer there.

Um, we're, we're going to stop at Tallahassee, I think, because we're, I'm, I'm after one of the most elusive banners possible that I'm still trying to track down. So hopefully we can find it and purchase it.

When are you guys going?

We're going next week. We're going to, so do you remember after COVID, the Florida State basketball team raised a banner that was like number 4 ranked team when COVID hit. It and they put that banner up and then they've taken it down. I'm trying to buy it off of them.

Oh, really?

Yeah, for an NIL donation, because it would be so funny if we had that banner in the Barstool office.

Do you know anybody at FSU that could help out with that?

Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure I could ask around.

Okay.

Because we would love to get that banner.

I mean, I cold texted the AD of Florida State.

Did you really?

He has not responded. It. I even sent him a picture of the banner. I was like, this is the one I'm looking for.

That's amazing. Yeah, yeah. I'll, uh, I'll reach out to somebody and see if I can, uh— hell yes, don't find out where that banner is.

Yeah, don't spend too much— you have a, you have a major championship to play this week. No, I don't want you to spend too much time.

Yeah, but Monday. Yeah, yeah.

And everyone— I, I've heard people say like you just don't need to think on this course. Like if you just turn your brain off that's where you're at your best. So that's what we're just trying to distract you so you don't think too hard about things.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm pretty good at turning my brain off.

Yeah, think about the banner. Yeah, yeah, think about the banner.

Yes, I like the banner. Yeah, we're gonna— we gotta find that banner. I had no clue that that even happened.

Yeah, it's an outrageous ban— I mean, I, I get it, they wanted, you know, everyone's season got cut short, it sucks, all that stuff, but it is still such a funny banner to have. It said Uh, yeah, NCAA canceled number 4 final ranking 2020. Gotta find it.

So it means it would have been a 1 seed.

Yeah, would have been a 1.

And people forget that year Duke would not have made the tournament.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh yeah, that's true.

Yeah, and if they had played in a bubble, I would have— whoever won in the bubble, I would have said is the champion.

I mean, can you imagine like having to focus in the middle of a pandemic and all the commitment? That would probably be the hardest NCAA tournament to win.

Agreed. Guess we'll never know.

Yeah, we'll never know.

Yeah, we'll never know.

Um, I just know we were number 4.

Yeah, number 4. Uh, Brooks, I got one last question for you because I know, I know you got it.

You got—

wait, before I ask the last question, what's on the Champions Dinner? Like, who— all the champions go? Is it a pretty cool event? Because you're, you're about to go to that.

Yeah, I'm about to go. What time is it now?

You're—

yeah, 4:20.

Uh, yeah, nice.

You gotta go.

Yeah, ironic.

Yeah.

Yeah, um, totally lost train of thought there. What are we talking about?

Hell yeah, Brooks!

Hell yeah!

Speaking of food, if you get hungry— if we get hungry later.

Yes, yes.

Um, yeah, I don't know what, uh, what Scotty's serving tonight. I have no clue. I'm assuming it's probably steak and potatoes. Usually it's something, something along those lines. Just see, Texas, he wants a good steak. That's my assumption.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Um, do you guys like talk, like hang out at that dinner, or is it like you're about to compete against each other? Is it like a good time and, you know, everyone's kind of trading stories and stuff?

Yeah, a lot of times it's just fun. Guys telling— guys that have won it, you know, 20 years ago, they're telling stories about these pairings that a lot of times the guys that have won it, uh, recently we didn't get to play with. Like, I, I've sat next to John Daly a few times, which was awesome. Yeah, uh, JD. JD is a legend. Um, some of the stories that come out of his, his mouth are fantastic. I don't know if I'd want to repeat them here, but they're, uh, they're quite entertaining. Um, and then you get, uh, he gets a good meal. This is fun. The, the story— usually there's like a gift some guys give too as well each year, and some of the gifts are pretty cool as well. I think like, uh, it's funny, we were actually just using Colin Mortower gave a couple years ago the I guess he was big into cooking and spices and all this stuff, and he gave it us, the whole outdoor grill set, everything. It was, it was actually pretty cool. We were using it the other day.

Okay, that's nice.

Just remember with this trophy, if you're lucky enough to win it again, I don't— you know, it falls apart. It's very, very delicate trophy. You have to pick it up with like a different technique.

Yeah, we'll go, we'll try to keep the lid on it.

Yeah.

Yeah, we'll keep the lid on it for the pictures, and then the lid's coming off, and then we're drinking out of it.

What are we drinking out of the trophy if you win?

Uh, whatever they're serving in Tallahassee.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll be there.

Yeah, you want to meet us?

Yeah, depends on what days.

I've got to play next week, but if we could find a day— if you guys— are you guys going?

Yeah, Monday we'll be there.

That could— see, that could be a stop pit stop on the way home.

There we go. Yeah, by the way, chicken parm and gelato tonight. That's what you're Is that what it is? Yeah, letting you know.

Yeah, yeah.

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Yes, sir. Uh, Brooks, I was curious, uh, if you could implement one rule change for only one major tournament one time, You have anything in mind?

Uh, one rule, one time.

Yeah.

Oh, no caddies. That would be an interesting one.

Yeah, that would be very interesting because you think there's some caddy merchants out there.

You probably— you'd be screwed without a yardage book.

I'd be By the way, I'd be sitting there doing math for about 10 minutes. I'd play as slow as some other players that typically played slow. But yeah, it would be interesting to see how guys play without caddies one time. I think that would be very interesting because it's like, I don't know, sometimes I rely— he knows better what, how far I hit the ball or what the wind's doing better than I do.

Yeah.

How much lower do you think the scores would be if you guys were allowed to use rangefinders?

It would speed up play because if you think about it, like a lot of times when you hit it so far offline, I know some, some people don't apply, but I definitely am in this category. You hit it really far offline, there's no sprinkler heads, and trying to figure out how far you are is a nightmare. And the caddie's got to walk like 80 yards sometimes just to figure it out. But rangefinders would speed it up for sure. Yeah, I don't understand. It's like, if you think about it, like, even when you guys go play or we go play, we're using rangefinders and it's just zap it, you hit the pin, you go. It's like 135, boom, just hit it.

Yeah, yeah. And sometimes you can leave the slope on accidentally. Yeah.

And then, yeah, that makes it way easier.

Yeah, it'd be very interesting. I'd be curious. I, I think— wait, can we use them this week?

I don't know, that's a good question for you.

You should probably know.

Wait, yeah, well, yeah, Rick, Rick better know. I, for some reason, I think during the PGA I thought we might be allowed to—

I don't know.

That's awesome. Are they— experimented with them a couple years ago, or is there something there? There's something to that, I think.

Okay, I think they should do it.

I look that up.

Yeah, no, don't look it up. Fuck it.

Yeah, this is Rick's business. This is where you pay Rick 10% for it.

Be surprised. Um, all right, Brooks, you're the best, man. Thank you so much. I know you got a tight schedule this week, but, uh, hopefully we see you Sunday night.

Yeah, hopefully. That'd be great. And Monday.

And Monday.

Uh, AI is telling me right now that, uh, they are allowed at the PGA Championship, but you should probably also double-check.

Yeah, double-check that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

All right, thanks, Brooks. You're the best, man.

Yeah.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is our good friend Shane Bacon, and we're getting ready for the second major, the PGA Championship. Shane will be on site He also will be doing post-round show for CBS called, uh, Scorecard. You can watch that on Paramount Plus, you can watch it on CBS HQ, you can watch it on their YouTube page. It's going to be awesome. Shane, we want to talk all PGA Championship, but before we do that, dude, you're playing in The Longest Day, you're playing to maybe play in the US Open. Can we just— can you explain to us everything? Because I— we kind of understand So like, it's like, start from the beginning. How, how, how have you gotten to this point where you, you— how many qualifiers did you get into? And then what is the longest day? Just do it all. I want to brain dump it.

Yeah, so for the US Open, obviously the, the whole Open part of the name, um, in theory anybody could get in. I think you have to have a, a basically a 0 handicap or better to apply to get into a qualifier. They call them local qualifiers. They have them everywhere. So they've got them in Chicago and I think they might have one in Alaska. I mean, they've got them all over the place. Typically, uh, depending on how competitive the area is— so Northeast a little bit more competitive, Arizona, Florida, places like that are going to be competitive— there'll be 4 or 5 spots out of about 100 guys to basically progress through the qualifying stages. So you go local, if you get through that, then you get into the final qualifying day, which is golf's longest day, and then, um, that cuts down to about 12, 13 around the country. You apply and rank which ones you want to play in, and then hopefully get into the one you want to get into. And, uh, yeah, on June 8th, uh, we'll rock and roll. It's 36 holes, uh, that day. I did it in 2019, but it wasn't Golf's Longest Day.

It was, uh, I had to play with all the pros because I was working for Fox and we were doing all the USGA stuff. So this will be the first time I'm actually doing it on Golf's Longest Day. But yeah, I played well. It was blowing like 30 miles an hour in Connecticut. It. Um, kind of got in the house at 2 under par, and that was the number I needed.

So, so how many people— this is awesome— so how many people on Golf's Longest Day then get to qualify for the US Open? Like, what are your chances looking like?

I mean, not, not great if we're being honest, but I mean, it, you know, I, I think depending on the site. So they'll do, you know, like last year Max played in one in Ohio, okay? That one has like 15 spots because that's where all the pros go after the Memorial. Field. My spot in the Northeast that I'm likely going to play in will probably have 4 spots out of, I don't know, maybe 100 guys in the field. Um, so I mean, you have to play well. You probably have to shoot, you know, 3-under-ish each round, so probably got to touch 6-under or so, obviously depending on condition. But yeah, I'm fired up.

I—

it— like, when I did it in 2019, I was working. I had to fly basically on like a late night flight to get into Dallas had never seen the golf courses before. I wouldn't exactly say I was preparing the right way. I'm gonna go after PGA Week and play practice rounds at the courses up here that are hosting. And so in theory, hopefully I'm a little bit more prepared. But, you know, getting through locals, kind of the goal. And then if you get into sectional and you, you know, put yourself in a position after 18 holes, you know, you never know.

Yeah, so it's 36 holes in a day, which sounds crazy. What, what is that like? And you have to walk the entire time. So by, by the end, is it actually like an exhausting day of golf?

Yeah, I remember, um, I had my best buddy in the world caddy for me in Dallas. Um, he's not a big golfer, I'm just a good dude. I like— I'd prefer good dude over, you know, kind of good caddy. I'd rather have the hang, you know. And, um, we got done and we went to the only place you go after a 36-day whole day of walking. We went to Chili's and had a big meal.

Respect.

Um, that was a moment too. And I'll send you guys the photo after we get off air, but a guy across from me at the bar— I'd never seen this before at a Chili's was having a glass of red wine and corn on the cob à la carte.

That's high class.

So yeah, you know, I mean, you know, you could, you can, you could experience certain indulgences, I think, around major, uh, obviously restaurateur places. But that was pretty impressive to see. But went to Chili's, I mean, exhausted. I mean, it's a long day, you're walking a lot, uh, depending on weather. Obviously it's hot, it plays into it as well. Um, that was one of the cool things last year. I mentioned Max. I mean, he did it. He carried his own bag for both rounds, which is pretty crazy. So I got a guy that caddied for me when I got through US Amateur qualifying out here, and, uh, he hit me up on Instagram to caddy for me. He was awesome, kind of an aggressive caddy in terms of the way he wanted to play. And so I hit him up when I got through and said, do you have any interest in doing this? And so I think he's going to be on the bag again for me in a few weeks.

The whole thing is so awesome, the fact that you're going through this whole process. I rooting for you. Yeah, it sounds like you're saying like you got to go, you know, you got to touch 6-under over the course of the 36 holes, but you shot 2-under in the qualifier. Like, you— do you have it in you? Do you think that— I feel like I'm asking Max when we first had him on. I was like, can you win the Masters? Can you do this?

He almost did.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, I, I think I'm playing, um, I— or first of all, I think golf is one of those things I don't know about. I mean, obviously I know Hank is always switching between how he's gonna play. But, uh, Big Cat, you have kids and you kind of get a little older in life, and all of the shit you cared about in your life becomes a little less important. I think that's been good for my golf game, is I don't like live and die— I mean, obviously I'm not playing for anything. I mean, I have like jobs that actually, you know, provide for my family. So me playing competitive golf is the fun part of my life. I think it used to make me nervous.

Yeah.

So yeah, I mean, I think I'm, I'm capable of going out there and doing it. I think I'm playing solid enough golf right now to go into it. And I'm actually— I had a long conversation with my wife after I got through, you know, last week or whatever, and I said, I'm gonna play a lot of golf over the next few weeks. I hope you're okay with that. And she was pretty supportive of it and said, yeah, absolutely, practice, you know, get yourself ready. So, you know, come that Monday, I actually feel like I'm— at least feel like I walk into it prepared more than I, I did a few years ago. Have you had the conversation with your bosses yet being like, hey, the US Open, like, I might be playing in Well, you know what's funny is I'm doing an event, um, I'm doing a Korn Ferry Tour event that weekend before Golf's Longest Day. And so I had to call my boss when I got through, and they're big, you know, they're all big golf guys, they understand the whole deal. But I call them like, can you find somebody to cover for me on Sunday?

They're like, we got you, we'll find somebody. So, uh, yeah, I mean, honestly, I think the doors in theory open more if this was the case. I think if I got into a US Open and the opportunity to maybe kind of split time between, um, broadcasting, playing, things like that. I know Amelia Duran, who does a great job in terms of golf broadcasting, did this a couple years ago, I believe, at a U.S. Women's Amateur. She was making a run. She'd play in the morning and broadcast in the afternoon. But I mean, again, I just like the fact that it exists, the fact that this opportunity exists. It's very unique to golf, you know. I mean, we're not going— I mean, you kick a 40-yard field goal, it's not like you're walking onto a team, right?

Yeah, you never know.

The fact that this is an option is pretty cool.

It is very cool. It's the, it's the U.S. Open. Like, I like that they still have this where anyone could theoretically qualify. Like, Hank is gonna qualify someday. I'm gonna manifest that right now. I'm gonna put it on a dream board.

How, how, like, closely do they have to look at your handicap? Like, if Hank showed up and he was like, yeah, I'm a zero handicap, and then he just happened to shoot like the best golf that he's ever played and he, he qualifies, is somebody going to go back and be like, hey, your handicap was actually— you were lying about that?

Well, I think it's— you have to put your, your gin or gin, whatever we call it, number in. And so I think you have to fudge the scores on the front end. So you've got to do a little prep. But I mean, there's guys at every qualifier, you know, that the Ryan French, uh, buddy of mine, the Monday Q guy that does a great job, he'll post those, you know, the guys that shoot 115 and 118 and stuff in these qualifiers. I mean, there are a lot of dreamers in golf across the board. Um, there's a lot of guys that are 45 that, you know, shoot 200 or 300 at their club and think they're going to make it on the Champions Tour. I think that's why golf is so special is the fact that we have that run of 9 holes where you're like, man, you know what, I might actually be pretty good at this game. Yeah, it obviously bleeds into, you know, trying to— I think I could get into a US Open.

Yeah, yeah, it humbles you real quick. So when you're, when you're doing the longest day, you've got 36 holes, is there a break? How does that work? Is there a break after 18, like a morning round then an afternoon round?

Yeah, I mean, you, you, depending on the site, it might be 2 different golf courses, so you're basically driving between them. Um, I think I went to a Subway in 2019. I've been to Subway in a minute, but I think I went to a Subway and got a sandwich on the way and, you know, arrive, hit 2 or 3 balls, and go. I mean, it's pretty quick in terms of the turnaround. But, uh, yeah, I mean, you're, you're snacking, eating throughout the day, and, um, you know, you feel like one of those cyclists that's using the gel and all that stuff.

Yeah, I, I—

speaking for myself, if I was lucky enough to ever be that good at golf and get to the, uh, the longest day, if I was shooting like 10 over par in the first round, I just wouldn't play the second 18. I'd be like, that— no, absolutely not.

Listen, I'm, I'm so long out, PFT, there's a lot of guys, especially the pros, you know, that are big names that are trying to get in the US Open. If the first 18 doesn't go their way, they are not continuing their afternoon.

Yeah, I mean, first like 4 holes, if those don't go my way, yeah, I'm out at that point. And then our good friend Danny Woodhead is the first alternate from, uh, from his area too, so he might get in. Um, I'm excited to see you guys. I, I hope that you can do it. Be very, very fun to have you in the US Open.

Yeah, yeah, Big Cat, Big Cat, is there anything crazier than the fact that these pro athletes athletes get into golf and can be this competitive like Steph Curry and Woodhead and these guys.

It's, it's bullshit that they're so good. But then you remember that they're professional athletes like LeBron. I actually had this bet with someone. I can't remember who, who was I talking with? I can't remember who I was telling, talking with, but I said that I would, I would put money on LeBron if, if you say the year after he retired or when he retires, Give him a full calendar year. If he's into his golf as much as we think he might be, I think he'll be a 5 handicap within a year. Like, that's, that's just what a pro athlete does. They have the, the— I know he's a little too tall, but still, I just— you watch them swing and you're like, yeah, that's just different. They move different than the regular human being. I go—

the hand-eye coordination is pretty good.

Yeah, I golfed with Frank Kaminsky last weekend. He's, you know, close to 7 feet and it still doesn't matter. He's just like, yeah, I've been I've been throwing myself into it now that I'm, you know, kind of done. And he's just— you can see like he will just get leaps and bounds better every single month because they just have that ability.

I, I've noticed that it's the dudes that were pro athletes that have to use that hip rotation. Yeah, that become the best golfers. Like hockey, uh, pitchers are great. Yeah, those guys that had to, had to use those muscles throughout their lives typically kind of lean right into it in terms of golf.

Yeah, yeah, it is, it is kind of bullshit. All right, let's talk PGA Championship. Can you tell us, give us the, the, uh, like the big view of this course? Because I don't, I'm not familiar with it. Uh, what should we expect? What's like kind of the, the thing that we should look to? You know, different courses have different quirks and everything.

It's a question we ask before most majors, which is, what's this course's deal?

Yeah, what's, what's up with it? Yeah, what's this course do?

I think this class— this course is, uh, is like the classy 60-year-old woman that maybe had gotten a late divorce and is still going to the gym, you know, it still looks great, um, still might be dating around. Uh, this is a golf course that's been around for a long time. Obviously it's in Philly. By the way, is Max available or no?

He's available.

Yeah, he's here. Yeah.

Hey Max, I listened to the Monday episode. I don't understand why you didn't immediately divert all of your attention into the PGA Championship. Because it's your PGA.

Yeah, it is my PGA.

Philly's a golf town.

Yeah, Philly's a golf town.

Yeah.

Aronimic, 10 minutes from my, my, my home growing up.

So there you go.

Yeah, I took my prom pictures there. I've been telling everyone that I took my prom pictures before at Aronimic, right on whatever hole the clubhouse is on.

This is true.

18?

Probably 18.

Yeah, if I had to guess.

It would be weird if it was like 11, right?

Yeah.

Um, it's a, it's a Donald Ross course. Um, crazy green complexes, big green complexes. Um, there's been a lot of changes done to the golf course over the years. Uh, it's tight, it's not overly long. You know, the PGA Championship typically is the longest of the majors. This is not going to be one of the longest you see. I don't think you have to bomb it off the tee to contend around here, but I do think it's a second shot golf course, a lot like what we talk about a lot with Augusta National. And also just a lot of trouble— 174 bunkers around the golf course, and a lot of them are really deep and gnarly, especially the fairway bunkers. You don't want to hit into those. But basically, it's gonna, it's gonna play into what we see at the Masters, what we see around the US Open. A lot of the great iron players, I think, are going to have a chance to contend. And then obviously the lag putting. But you think about players that might fit the mold of this place— I mentioned bombers. Obviously, if you hit it far and long, you're be at an advantage anywhere.

But I think considering the size of the greens and how good of a putter Bryson is, I think the kind of up-and-down iron play from Bryson will be actually helped out around a Moronimic because you don't have to be totally precise to find the surfaces, then you just have to 2-putt.

All right, what's the rough like here? We're gonna get any videos of people throwing golf balls into the grass and then they're like, oh my God, a little more US Open-y, PFT, when you get into those videos.

It's not It's not, it's not nothing, but the PGA of America doesn't want it to be drop a ball and disappear. I mean, it's going to be healthy, it's going to be hardy, and I mean, obviously if you hit into it, it could be penalizing, but you're not going to get like drop your cell phone and then you can't find it videos like you will, okay, in a few weeks at Shinnecock.

Are we worried at all that, uh, Philadelphia has been disparaged as a sports town this past weekend and now it's kind of like a chip on your shoulder, prove it situation? Where they gotta show up and they gotta like say some real nasty shit to Rory and real nasty shit to, to any of the European guys.

Yeah, I think there'll be just a lot of New Yorkers there. That seems to be what happens at Philly sporting events, is just the New Yorkers show up and they kind of take over. Yeah, so that's probably what's gonna happen at Aronimic. Uh, I mean, and that's kind of what I think will be the progression of what we've seen over the last few weeks.

I do like the idea of like Philly being like, this is how we get our lick back. Yeah, we just, we just get crazy. Just yelling Matt Fitzpatrick.

Yeah, how tickets?

Because Max was telling us that people from Philly can't— they don't have a lot of money to spend on sports tickets.

I mean, I haven't looked. You guys have a deal with some company, don't you?

Yeah. Let's see what we're at on GameTime.

PGA Championship tickets.

Because that'd be a lot.

It could be.

We could be looking at a heavy New York crowd. You're absolutely right.

Yeah. I'm going to say under $200 is what my guess would be on Thursday, Friday.

I'm looking right now. Yeah. Under $200 for— yeah, for the get-in price. Thursday, 165. Yeah, Friday, 250.

Now, but to Max's other point, he said that people from New York have jobs, people from Philly don't. That would make it more likely for people from Philly to go on Thursday and Friday, overflowing with golf fans out there.

Yeah, that's the real fans.

All right, so, so let's talk about the golfers that are playing the best right now. Cam Young has been awesome. Yeah, uh, Is— I mean, Scottie's the favorite. Is that fair that Scottie should still be the favorite even though he hasn't— it hasn't— it's unfair for Scottie because the bar that he set for himself last year was so impossibly high. So he hasn't been winning every tournament this year, but he still— is there, is there maybe something with Scottie's game you're like, oh, he's got to fix this, or something's a little off, or if he plays his best, no one's got a chance?

Yeah, it hasn't been as tight is what I'd say with Scottie Scheffler. It hasn't been bad, obviously, but it hasn't been as tight. I mean, he's been leading the PGA Tour the last 3 years in terms of iron play. That's been a little loose this year. There's been times where he's gotten wayward with the driver. Even the putter has gotten a bit cold. A couple of weeks ago, missed a lot of short putts inside of 5 feet. That's kind of the bad for Scottie. I'd say the good is, you know, despite not winning a lot after that first event of the year, he's finished second in the last 3 events. And the people he's lost to are the 3 best golfers in the world not named Scottie Scheffler— Rory, Cam Young, and Matt Fitzpatrick. So you're not getting beat by the 75th-ranked golfer in the world. You're getting beat by guys that are having these incredible years. Um, the other thing I think that plays into Scottie's hands is he didn't play this past week. He took the week off, and he's been at Aronimic basically since Saturday playing practice rounds and preparing. Again, going back to what the golf course asks, you got to be great with the irons, and it really helps if you're an incredible pitcher when you miss the greens.

And those are his best skill sets. So I, I think there's a better chance Scottie wins by 10 than he doesn't finish in the top 10. I think this is a great opportunity for Scottie to kind of go back-to-back at the PGA.

Okay, and what about some names that might be outside that list of the, uh, of the top 5 that you would look to, to have a chance at a course like this?

So I got 5 best-case scenario wins on the week if you guys want them.

Yes, absolutely.

Um, you always come so prepared. I love this.

I mean, you know, I mean, you— this is a, this is a popular program, fellas. Um, I listen to every show, you know.

I love that.

So, uh, Spieth is the number 1 obvious answer. If he wins here, he completes the career Grand Slam. Um, he's only had one chance to really win a PGA Championship in his career. That was back in 2010. 2015, lost to Jason Day at Whistling Straits. That was back when it was in, uh, the end of the season, not where it is now on the schedule. I don't really like him this week. I don't think he's going to win this PGA. I kind of like his chances next year. The PGA goes to that new course in Frisco, and I think that plays a little bit more into Jordan Spieth's skill set. But obviously, if Spieth gets good attention— if Rory last year was, let's call it, a 10 out of 10 on the emotional and everything scale, winning the Masters I think Spieth getting a PGA win's probably a 9, um, and that's about as high as you're going to get in terms of this field at this golf course. Uh, number 2 is just the, the big-time winners at this particular major continuing. I'll read you the winners basically since 2017. Uh, JT, Brooks, Brooks, Collin Morikawa, Phil when he was 50 years old, JT, Brooks again, Xander, and Scottie.

So I mean, these are like the heaviest of hitters in the world. The PGA of America kind of sets the golf courses up for the best golfers in the world to contend and play well. So obviously no surprise that that's kind of been the run, but pretty incredible. I mean, the fact that JT's won 2 and Brooks has won 3 and you had those sprinkled in, all those guys are obviously big-time players. My number 3 is Brooks winning another one. Yeah, I just think getting to 4 is awesome. I think he's going to be in contention here. I think it's a great Brooks Koepka golf course. He's leading the PGA Tour this season in iron play. I was surprised when I saw that statistically. Played great on Saturday in Myrtle Beach. I also got to say this about Brooks: he's become one of my favorite professional golfers because he kind of has that no-bullshit mentality, you know, on the golf course. But I love the fact that he's just kind of down with whatever they ask of him in terms of what he needs to play in or the process he's got to go through.

Like, the fact that went and played the European Tour, you know, out of college, and the Challenge Tour, and went a bit of a different path. Uh, the fact that he's opened up about the vulnerability of being a pro golfer— like, Brooks is a little bit deeper, I think, than people think he is when they see the mock turtle and the biceps. And I think Brooks is positioning himself to get really a chance to win either this PGA or win at Shinnecock. So, um, he's there. Bryson's on the list. I mean, Bryson getting a PGA would be would be great. Also, like, on a run right now at the PGA that's been incredible. Finished T4 in '23, second in '24, and second last year. So been close. Probably needs to get it done at some point considering where he's at in, in his run. And then the last one is the old guys. We've seen them bucking as of late. Brandt Snedeker just won at 45. Justin Rose has won at Aronimic in the past and has played great this year. Adam Scott, one of the best iron players this year on the PGA Tour.

So those are kind of my best-case scenarios is an old guy, Bryson Brooks, one of the big names in golf, or Jordan Spieth.

What about, um, you, you mentioned that, you know, distance isn't everything on this golf course. Uh, what about one guy who would be probably number 1 in the world if he had that top-tier distance? Block. Blocky's back in.

Yeah, I think Blocky makes the cut. I really do.

Okay.

I think Blocky's gonna make the cut this week. I don't know if he wins the PGA. Um, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know what that's gonna look like, But I think if he doesn't get off to a brutal start like he did a couple years ago, I think there's an opportunity to Blockie to shoot a couple over through 2 rounds to get to the weekend.

Yeah, listen, I, with Blockie, I, I don't think I've ever seen a guy like burn through, uh, like a massive amount of goodwill as fast as he did, uh, the last time that he was like in the national conscious. I got no problem with Blockie, you know, like he pops up, he wants to play golf, he's like a, you know, it's a fun story. But yeah, sometimes he needs a guy that's next to him that's Hey, hey, maybe we just stop talking for a little bit because everybody loves you. So let's just kind of maybe take that to the bank.

What do you think percentage PFT of athletes that need that guy are? Is it like 70%?

Yeah, it's probably maybe higher.

Maybe higher. Yeah.

Although I did like Bryson's interview that he gave last week. I, I don't know if you had a chance to read the one where he's talking about like merging back to the PGA and how, how the teams from LIV Golf are worth $200 million, so they've got that equity as leverage coming back. Do you have any idea? Because is we've heard, um, you know, there has been a blueprint of a plan dating back, I think, like 2 and a half years, 3 years almost now.

You got the structure.

Yeah, the structure, the plans in place, the outlines there. So what have you heard recently about the former LIV players that did not take the opportunity to come back in January when it was offered, and now they're thinking about making the jump back to the PGA? How do you think that's going to look?

So I think that they— I think the PGA Tour and ROLAP are smart enough to understand the power of superstar, right? I think that's something golf has leaned heavily into over the last few years. We see it across every sport, right? I think that's one of the issues right now in terms of the NBA is the superstars are kind of emerging right now after the Stephs and LeBrons are kind of fading, and they're still trying to figure out who's going to be the face of this league going forward. I think with golf, Bryson helps whatever tour he's on, Jon Rahm helps whatever tour he's on, and then I think on down the list you've got guys that I think in theory would be great to get back to the PGA Tour. So I think some level of if you've won a major the last 5 years, if you've done X, Y, and Z, uh, there's an opportunity to come back. But I haven't heard anything about what that structure is looking like as of now. But I imagine if there's an opportunity or way, if LIV does fold and go away, to get Bryson and Rahm specifically back, probably Joaquin Niemann as well.

I think Tyrell Hatton's another name you'd probably want back on the PGA Tour considering how good he has played over the last couple years I think just setting some precedent to where those guys could in theory get back if they wanted to, I think is going to be some door that opens.

What would you say to people like, I don't know, Henry Lockwood, who still think Liv has a chance and, uh, is just holding on and, and, and actually watching still?

Can I ask Hank to name— is it the Four Aces? Is that what we go with?

Yeah, you're talking about the, the Liv Virginia champions?

Champions. Yeah, yeah. Oh, they won the championship?

Yeah. Hit me with it, Hank. Go.

Anthony Kim, Dustin Johnson, and then the, the twin Thomases. Yeah, Thomas Peters, Thomas Dietrich.

I—

you guys, I kind of think— I've been thinking about this lately. I think Hank's my favorite podcaster.

I agree.

Wow.

Same.

Yeah, same.

He's my— I think he's my favorite podcast.

He's our boss.

Agreed.

There.

He, he, he kind of reminds me of singles like you guys. Hey, you regret a vacation that's upcoming? And then you go have fun on the vacation. I imagine that's Hank every episode. I gotta do this again.

And then an hour and a half, I think he enjoys himself.

Yeah, no, that's very— he's like, I'm really glad we did that.

Yeah, that was great.

That's perfectly put.

Yeah, that's actually the best— that's the best description of Hank's psyche that I think I've ever heard. Yeah, you have a psychologist that could sit down and listen to this show for, for years and never be able to distill Hank's brain into that.

Yeah, I love Hank so much.

Um, left— yes, just lefties sticking together. Yeah, Hank, you got a question for I mean, I got a few.

Uh, let's go.

I mean, I didn't— yeah, I, I saw the, the video when you, when you qualified for Golf's Longest Day Lefty.

Love that.

Really, really made me appreciate you a lot more.

Representation matters.

Uh, representation does matter. And I obviously you've been around the game for a long time. I have a few questions. I guess my first one, uh, Matt Fitzpatrick, one of the best golfers on tour this year, crosshand chipping. As someone who is a formerly right-handed golfer switching to left-handed, that's something that interests me because obviously I can just I have the right-handed grip.

Thoughts?

Your thoughts?

Yeah, have you done it yet?

I've tried.

I mess around with it.

Yeah, yeah.

Did you— okay, now let me ask you a question. This is very golf nerdy stuff. Could you— and you might not have an answer to this— could you feel the bottom of the club easier when you made contact with the ball? Yeah, I find that is what the cross-handed chip does the best. I find you return the club to the ball way more consistently than the other way around. Have you ever tried the chip like strong-handed, one-handed before? Because it does the same. It's kind of the same feel. No, but I like the idea of the cross-handed. If you're not a great chipper to kind of get that repeatable contact on the back of the ball, you're not going to get cute with those chip shots. Like you're not hitting the flop and doing all sorts of stuff, manipulating the face. But if you're looking for a straightforward back and through chipping motion, I think cross-handed is the way to go.

What's cross-handed? How do you do it?

You just use a right-handed grip, so it's like basically right hand low.

It's like if you were to chip—

oh, yeah.

So you're saying if like when you're doing the chip with one hand, if that feels natural to you, then going cross-handed might be a good move?

Yeah, like if you— it's so funny, if you chip one-handed— I mean, you, you know, these are easy chips, right, PFT? These aren't 30-yard pitch shots, but it's wild how that other hand can sometimes get in the way. And so like if I'm struggling with my chipping at times, I'm a lefty, I'll go out and chip just left-handed, right? Just to get a feel for the bottom of the club. And you're just trying to kind of return the club to the back of the ball where it started. And then once you start to get that feel back, you can try to get a little bit more into manipulation with, you know, high and low and things like that.

I've got a really dumb question for you. I've been working a lot on my game recently and I'm feeling good going into this summer. For the Internet Invitational. There's a few things I, I'm, I need some work on. One would be bunker play. Need to practice that. And then two, maybe the, the biggest problem that I have is just putting in general. Um, wide open-ended question. How do I read putts? Because I feel like there's something wrong with my eyes. I, Hank knows, like usually when I guess which way it's about to break, it'll actually be the opposite.

So, uh, uh, something you could do, I think that's helpful is find the lowest point on the green. Green and then stand there. So you— I'm assuming you stand behind your ball, right, when you're reading a putt?

Yep.

You get behind the ball and you look at it. Go find the lowest point on the green, stand there, and then get a feel for where everything's going to move. And I think that'll help you understand maybe where the breaks come from. And not always the easiest thing if they're flat greens, but if there's undulation involved in it— I mean, you're playing, I'm assuming, a lot of golf in Chicago, a lot of movement on those green complexes. It's like find the low point and start from there.

Okay, good tip. That, that makes sense. I always just say like it's going to break towards the water because that's what I've heard people say. Is that true?

Yeah. Uh, I mean, it can.

It breaks away from the mountains.

It breaks away from the mountains.

It breaks away from the mountains.

Because the mountains are high and then so obviously it's like still that slope's on the green.

By the way, that's, that's a big pro golfer thing to do is they'll tell you like every golf course, oh, you know, it breaks to the creek and you're just like, I don't know where the creek is.

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

We can't— we— when we golfed in Arizona, we were— they told us before it breaks away from the mountains, and we're just like, every single time, like, uh, yeah, yeah, go this way away from the mountain, be fine. Yeah.

I have a PGA Championship LIV question.

Oh, hit me.

First, first part is, what— is it fair to say that, because the news broke I think the week after the Masters, is it fair to say that that was a distraction for the LIV players in the Masters And part 2, if one is yes, is it still a distraction for live players going into this year or into this week, or has that kind of— they've figured it out?

I think it was definitely a distraction, uh, Masters Week for those players. I think there's a level of it being motivating now. I think now it's been a few weeks, um, you know, Jon Rahm and Bryson, I think both played well in Virginia, well enough, I think, to just at least feel like your game is in the right place. I think there's got to be a level of motivation specifically for those two guys guys to come in here and play well. I think there's a lot of weight on the shoulders of Jon Rahm right now. Just not been playing very good golf at the majors over the last couple years. I think for Jon Rahm getting in the mix— he played decent at the PGA last year, had a chance on the back nine before Scottie went crazy— but I think for Jon Rahm getting here, showing up, playing a solid opening round, don't have to do anything crazy on Thursday, but don't shoot yourself out of the golf tournament to start. I think there'll be a lot of motivation within those two guys, out maybe outside of everybody else, to just have a good major week.

Okay, okay, good questions. All right, any long shots?

Uh, I like JJ Spaun. I mean, he's not super long, but I'd like JJ Spaun. Um, obviously won the US Open last year. He was putting terrible to start the year, has been putting a lot better, got a win in San Antonio before the Masters, top 25 at Harbor Town, finished top 15 at Doral and T5 this past week. Playing a lot of golf is my only concern in terms of fatigue, but I like JJ Spaun. I also really like Rickie Fowler. I think Rickie Fowler could potentially get a major win finally this week at Aronimic. Kind of a good golf course for him. Don't have to hit it 350 off the tee. Has been playing really solid golf. Irons look a lot better, and mainly the putter. I mean, Rickie was, you know, in his prime was the best putter from inside of 10 feet in professional golf. He'd kind of gone away from that when he was struggling going back to this golf course, you're going to hit it in spots where you're just trying to 2-putt. If Ricky continues to kind of roll in those 6, 7, 8-foot par putts, I think Ricky has a real chance to get himself in contention, you know, come— let's call it late Saturday into Sunday.

And then our good friend Max Homa, uh, he, after finishing what, 9th at the Masters, hasn't really done a whole lot since then. Is he okay? Is Max all right?

Yeah, yeah, he'll be fine. He'll be fine. I, I think, again, I mean, I, I think Max, you know, is a great iron player at his core. And again, talking about this golf course being a second-shot golf course, I think when you pick out the best iron players in the world, even now, you know, Max is still going to be in your top 20. So yeah, I think Max is a, is a dog. He's going to show up at this level of golf course, and you know, I think a good top 20 bet in terms of what he could do. I think I'd put something on there. I'm sure you get plus money for something like that.

Yeah. All right, what about speed? Spith. Career Grand Slam. Yeah, he talks about it.

I just, I don't, I don't love, I don't love this place for Spith, honestly. I, I like Spith. Um, these golf courses aren't great for him. Um, he's been playing okay golf this year, but he hasn't put 4 rounds together. He'll have one week where the irons are great and he putts terrible, and the next week he putts great and the irons are terrible. We just haven't seen that level of consistency for 4 days with Jordan. To put me in a place where I'm thinking he's going to get himself in contention. I'd love to see it, but I don't really believe in him here.

Yeah.

What is it about Spieth that he seems like the camera always cuts to him and he's like in the middle of a bush in a part of the golf course that has never been seen before, and then, and then he makes a par somehow? What, yeah, what is it about his, his style of play? Because it's wildly entertaining.

Yeah, I mean, he's kind of like Phil. I mean, you think about Phil throughout his career, and Phil was like famous for, you know, missing a lot of fairways, missing huge, finding a way way to save par, pulling off the, the incredible shot. I mean, I think that's why we love Jordan, is because, you know, you can find a player that hits it straight and finds a lot of fairways and has routine rounds of 71, 70, or you can be on the, the drug roller coaster that is Jordan Spieth.

That you—

I mean, Big Cat, you feel like you're at the Sphere, you know? You're like, I don't know what I'm watching here, but I'm not leaving, I can promise you that. Yeah. And, uh, and that's Spieth. I think it was him in his prime, he did that stuff, and we can't take our eyes off of them.

Yeah.

Um, all right, Shane, you said you texted me before and you said you had, uh, you had a fix. Was it a fix for soggy sorrows?

No, I had an idea for this. So the soggy sorrows has been hot in the streets as of late.

Yes.

Now, is there anybody that's really in the run now of an upcoming soggy sorrow?

Memes. Memes and Zach.

Oh, PFT, congrats on the, on the draft, by the way.

Thank you.

Thank you. Appreciate it. Who would you rather be right now, Scottie Scheffler or the Washington Wizards. Who's more positioned to win for the future?

I think I'm going— I'm gonna go Wizards.

I think the young core.

Yeah.

Uh, no, but to answer your question, Mims and Zach, and then PFT with Team USA in the World Cup.

That's true.

So here was my idea. I think all of us pick one golfer on the favorites list. Oh, and if that— if your golfer wins, you have to do a soggy sorrows for Monday's show.

Wait, so if he wins, you have to do it? Yeah.

Yeah. So it's like you're—

everyone else— no, everyone else has to do it.

Everybody else?

Yeah, you control it.

Yeah.

Yeah, I like that. Everybody else asked, could you— can you guys do it like a full team podcast, Soggy Sorrows, or no?

Yeah, I think that like if you give one person the power to make everybody else miserable because your guy won, that's actually the most— that's the best thing.

We'd have to eliminate like the top like 5, you know, because no one's getting credit for picking Scottie, you know.

All right, yeah, Big Cat, Big Cat, you got the odds list in front of you?

Yeah, hold on, let me pull it up because it's got to be Scottie, Rory, Rahm, Cam Young, Bright Jason and Fitzy.

I think we throw Fitzy out as well.

He's, he's 8.

All right, yeah, then we'll do a draft. I like this, we'll do a draft.

All right, so we, we should we go who's been on the show for the shortest amount of time to longest? Wait, hold on, let's pick last.

Let's— yeah, you're gonna do draft 2, so you're gonna have to get wet and send us a video. Or no, we'll have to get wet if you get— oh man, now Shane's—

I think we also can't do our guys because then you're rooting because you're going to be rooting against every other draft pick, and I don't want to root against our guys.

That's fair. So Max and Brooks need to be taken out.

Taken out. Yeah.

All right, so, so Scottie, Rory, Jon Rahm, Cam Young, and Bryson are all out, right? Yeah, we agree into that.

And Fitzpatrick. So Shoffley is in.

Shoffley's in. Okay. And then, all right, and then Brooks and, and Max are out. All right, uh, Memes, you want to go first? Sure, go around. And Shane, you'll— you, you get last pick, Shane. Okay, uh, can I take Tommy Fleetwood? Yeah, yeah, sure, it's a great pick.

Okay, so now who's up?

You, Max, that'd be you.

Did we say Cam Young was no good?

Yes, no good.

Did we say Aberg was no good? No, you can take him, man.

Max, great pick, playing some great golf. I think he has 6 top 8 finishes averages in his last 8 starts, and he never chokes.

A big choker.

Never falls apart at the end in majors. I love that.

Zach, I would like to take Justin Thomas.

Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, are you taking, uh, I think I'm gonna take, you know what, I'm gonna take Schauffele.

Okay, I was gonna say you gotta take, you gotta take a good pick. Yeah, there, I'll take Morikawa.

Yeah, been battling that injury bug.

All right, I won't take Morikawa. I didn't know he was injured. I don't know he was injured.

Big Cat, I don't think it's a bad pick.

I don't think—

is he injured?

Just tell me if he's injured.

This is like—

he's hurt.

He hasn't played that level of golf since the end.

When did he last play?

I think played like 2 weeks ago.

Did he— did— was he— did he look like he was hurt? There was— he— was he— was he favoring anything?

There's a back thing that's in the background.

You know what, you know how that goes. I, I don't want Morikawa because this injury, I'll take— go even further down the list. I'm gonna take Siwoo Kim.

Okay, nice.

I love that. Yeah, I love that.

Just for the tracker, my guy. Uh, I will go with the, with the southpaw Bobby Mack.

Okay, why not?

All right, now Shane, you have the, you have the ability to do the funniest thing right now, but go ahead.

Who could I pick?

More after blowing him off.

Yeah, yeah, I'll take Colin.

That's way more fun.

I'll take Oh my God, it'd be great.

Oh, all right, there you go. Okay, all right, so we'll, we'll have the graphic out on Wednesday's show, and then if, if any of them win, everyone else has to get wet.

Yep.

And I assume everyone's gonna bet on their guy. You gotta bet on your guy.

Yep.

Already done.

Bet on your guy. Have to bet on your guy. Um, all right, I love it, Shane. This is great because it's—

there you go—

it adds a little extra spice. It also will be Grit Week, so Where are you guys going? Jacksonville, uh, Baton Rouge, and New Orleans.

Oh my goodness.

Yeah, I gotta send you, Big Cat, I'll send you a restaurant in Baton Rouge to hit up. Let's go for, for, for some etouffée. And, uh, it's like under the freeway. It's awesome. I'll send you the name.

We're in. We're absolutely in.

Uh, would it be crazy to say that we screwed up by not taking Goddard up? Because I like Goddard up and he's one of our guys.

He's one of our guys. He's yet to be on, but he's one of our guys. Guys.

No, I mean, I think he could win, but I mean, I think— who'd you take, PFT?

I got Shoffley. The value was just too good.

You know me, I'm gonna give you a one-time chance to take—

to—

to allow you to change, but you can't trade it for Goddard.

Why can't I take Goddard?

You got it. What about Patrick Reid?

No, no, I'm sticking with Shoffley over Reid. I love Reid. I love watching him from afar, but I don't want to actually like sit and root for the guy.

I do.

I want to see other people get mad.

He has been show.

Yeah, that's true, but Gutterup's one of our guys.

Yeah.

Which golfer have you not had on the show that you want to have on the show?

Probably Gutterup.

Yeah. Uh, Phil.

Yeah, Phil would be good.

Phil would be really good.

Who's the, uh, the, the lady golfer that smokes cigarettes? Charlie Hall. Yeah, Charlie Hall.

Yeah, yeah. Uh, Rory would be fun. Rory.

Yeah, that's kind of surprising. Never, never had him on the show.

Uh, I wouldn't say that.

Yeah, right.

All right, uh, all right, Shane, this has been awesome. I got— and by the way, reminder everyone, Shane will be live after, uh, each round of the PGA Championship, uh, on CBS called The Scorecard. It'll be on CBS HQ, Paramount Plus, and the YouTube page. Uh, final question, Roback question. rhoback.com, promo code TAKE, 20% off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com, promo code TAKE. Zach.

Uh, what's going on, Shane? I was, uh, curious, uh, is there no— is there an appropriate age in golf where you can move to the flex shafts, and how early can that be?

No, no, not at all. I mean, you can move whenever you need to.

Any—

anything that helps your game, man, don't be scared. That's the one thing pro golfers never do— no ego involved. Um, Zach, I have a throwback question for you if you're okay with it.

Uh, yes, sir.

So, okay, so you left on a trip and You just left everything on. I just, I'm really confused by this. Just everything on in your apartment?

Uh, most of the lights were off, but some of the stuff that does make excessive noise was left on.

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

Are you moving, Zach? Are you going to be, are you officially moving or no?

I'm in talks.

You're gonna move.

I haven't committed yet, but I'm in talks.

I actually just got a realtor during this interview.

Oh, let's go. Zach, we need you to, we need you to have a gaming room.

I did a tour this morning, but all they wanted to focus on was the gym and not the apartment. I was like, I gotta see the square footage. Amenities.

I'm trying to get in the—

yeah, the Peloton images. Zach, here's the deal. When you move, because I, I— and maybe I'm assuming, maybe I'm overstepping here, but my assumptions— you're probably not a big art guy on the wall. I'm gonna assume a lot of, a lot of blank walls. I want to send you something for your apartment. Yeah, to put on the wall.

That'd be so kind of you. I'll throw it right— I'll get it right up right away.

Yeah, I want to frame it and everything. So I'm going to say, well, I need your address when you get a new apartment. Apartment, and I'm gonna ship you something. And you, you can put it up or not, I don't really care, but I, I just want to get you something for the new apartment.

That's beautiful.

That's so kind of you. I'm looking forward to that.

What are you gonna say, Max?

Uh, Zach floated— we were talking apartments back here. Uh, he floated something. I want to know your opinion on it. He's looking at one bedrooms, and he's thinking about making the living room his bedroom and the one bed his office.

I actually was about to say that, that Zach would like— he, he's like a hermit crab. He can't get— he can't— he's, he's gonna grow to the size of his room. He can't— think about how big that bedroom would be.

I know, Zach, but he spends all of his time in the office. Yeah, but yeah, so is it— would the bedroom be big enough to the point where you'd have like a desk and a gaming space in the big room too?

I think there's a world where like there's double desk territory.

Yeah, and like you can get one of those comically big—

I could get like a— I think it's an Alaskan King?

Yeah, I don't really— I don't know, your whole apartment becomes a bedroom.

Yeah, the crab legs. Yeah, the Alaskan king crabs.

Yeah.

And I told him an Alaskan king doesn't make a ton of sense when you are by yourself.

Well, you don't know that.

I might have guests.

Yeah, he might— I don't usually— also might just roll over.

I might have guests. Like, it's like a family member come to stay, we're gonna share the bed.

This guest room is just the Alaskan king bed. He's like Willy Wonka, he's got his grandfather in the bed with them. Oh yeah, Mom and Dad, you can stay over.

The Alaskan king bed is actually, yeah, way bigger than the California.

Is that really— is that really a thing?

Yeah, it's a square, 108 inches by 100, so it's 9 by 9.

And if you think that's big, check out the Florida king. I believe that's, uh, even double.

Wow.

Okay, the Florida king.

Wait, Shane, I got one last question for you. I, I, uh, golfed this morning and I used— for the first time ever, I used the neon yellow balls. Is that a loser move. Yeah, that is— all right, yep, okay, all right, I'm throwing them out. Memes, Memes supported me. He's like, dude, do it, do whatever you want. But I, I have no doubt—

you know what, I, I did it for a year, and then you, you know, the same thing as I did. I had a run where I put my last name on my golf ball, and then at one point I realized that was kind of a loser move too. Like, you don't— I don't need to put my name on my golf— you know, it's like, just play the golf ball.

Well, the, the— I, I found it was obviously easier to find it, but also a lot harder to cheat. So that, that part is the problem for me because I, you know, like, I like to have the ability to just be like, oh no, this is my ball when it's not, and I can just hit it.

So yeah, you know, I, I think, I think when, I think when a home caddie for me at a US Amateur qualifier in Arizona a few years ago, I think I used a yellow golf ball and I don't think he said anything about it.

Okay.

But I could see it in his face.

All right. You, yeah, your answer, your non-answer right away told me everything.

But what about the orange ones? The orange ones are actually cool, right?

Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know.

The thing about those, they're actually harder to see, I think, when they're in the air.

Yeah. But once you—

100%.

Yeah.

100% agree.

But you can find them.

I remember a, I know a, a big, a big club company years ago, they fooled around with like a red one. Yeah. They were like gonna make a red golf ball. They're like, you can never find it.

Yeah. Never. I, again, go, I, I, I've been asking TaylorMade to do this for years, but put like a tiny little RFID chip inside all the balls. Balls, because there's nothing more frustrating than hitting the ball, you miss the fairway by like a foot and a half, 2 feet.

Brutal.

And then you just don't know where it is, and you're like, I guess you got to take a drop, put a little chip in there just for us shitty golfers.

Yeah, I mean, they have them in our AirPod case, for goodness sakes. You can't put that into a golf ball?

Yeah, we can make that happen.

Yeah. Um, all right, Shane, you're the best. We really appreciate it. Have fun this weekend, and, uh, if we don't talk to you before then, good luck on Golf's Longest Day. We're rooting for you.

Thanks, fellas.

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Uh, tune in later this week for the schedule, but in classic form, the schedule is getting released. Like, we, we— okay, games are out.

Yeah, it's a schedule trickle.

What do you got? I'll give you—

there's, there's, there's a bunch, but I'll just— the two international games, the games that matter. Week 1, 49ers or Rams, Melbourne. Golden, which we already knew.

Jaguars-Titans, 1 PM.

Ravens at Cowboys. Guess where?

Cowboys.

Cowboys.

Yeah, no, international.

Oh, oh, Ravens at Cowboys, um, Brazil.

Rio de Janeiro.

Okay, okay, exciting. I'm excited.

This is, this is shocking.

How do you think Lamar—

Eagles are gonna be at the Cowboys on Thanksgiving.

I love it.

How do you think Lamar's stomach is going to handle Brazil? Brazilian food. Shot in the dark.

I, uh, yeah, Cowboys and Giants, Sunday Night Football, Week 1.

I love—

I, I know people get upset that the Cowboys get all these primetime games. I love it because there's not a quarterback that is better suited for instant knee-jerk reaction than Dak Prescott. If he's, if he's bad, he's the worst quarterback ever. If he's good, this is the year he's the MVP. He's like, he's the most The takes are so easy. They're layup takes every time he plays in a prime time.

They also get the rating, so who cares? Yeah, the Christmas game was the biggest game ever.

I, I, I, I might be biased against— I'm sick of the Cowboys.

But then I have more people watch the Commanders.

Then you're— that's like saying you're waiting for the NFL. Yeah, just gonna put them on every single year.

I just, uh, I'm sick of the Cowboys.

Yeah, but isn't it fun to talk about that?

You know what I'm talking about.

It's fun to talk about Dak though.

If he stinks, it is fun to hate Dak, but I mean, yeah, the worst part for you and I, PFT, Sunday Night Football, that's just not a fun watch for either.

No, Cowboys and Giants.

Yeah, no matter, there's no, there's no positive.

Oh, there is.

If Dak sucks, that's funny.

Yeah, but then the Giants, the positive is like, who cares? Like, if Dak has a complete implosion that game, the Giants, I'm okay with it. I know when the Giants fans are going to get all cocky.

But that's funny.

You're thinking about that Thursday night game, which was great. I enjoyed that. What did you—

Yeah, I guess. But the way things turned out, I could see why you—

Giants-Eagles.

Oh, yeah. That was— I was— that was also during playoff baseball.

That was one of the worst nights of my life. Yeah, it was a tough night for you. Yeah. I just give us a schedule. Just give us the fucking schedule.

You know what they should do? Just have it be schedule week and do a promo where this is just boosting the economy. Every grocery store in America has the magnet schedule for the local team.

I like that.

You show up, you buy something, you get your magnet schedule. Because I'd rather have it in a magnet.

They could also do 4 days and just both conferences, or I guess 3 days, but like, this isn't gonna work. The AFC and NFC East is Monday.

What are you talking about? Oh, that one, they play each other.

No, but I'm saying you get—

yeah, yeah, it's okay.

No, that wouldn't work. All right, cut that. We'll cut that. We'll cut that.

Uh, one of my favorite new accounts online, Jeff D. Lowe sent this to me, and Jeff D. Lowe was like, look at— look how crazy, uh, this freak gets with his schedules. It's the NFL Nerd.

This is him talking about someone else?

Yeah, yeah. So you know it's good.

Jesus.

Nerding on NFL does a mock schedule every year. Love that. So he put together a goal. Look at this, he's got like the spreadsheet out with the entire predicted schedule that he has. I'm sure he's going to get like— I don't know what even what a successful prediction would be, like 5 games? If he gets like maybe 6 games correct for the entire season—

like that guy we found who did the, uh, bracket but with times.

Yeah, that's what this guy did, except not only times but dates and weeks for every single team and predicts all the overseas games.

Okay.

Yeah, this guy rocks. So I'm just rooting for this guy to be right. I want this guy to have a good season.

The fucking schedule, so sick of it.

All right, guys on chicks. Uh, AWL chick married to an AWL here and needed some advice. I recently got a boob job and of course I want to show the girls off a little, nothing crazy or over the top, but I didn't spend thousands of dollars to hide them. And my husband was obviously supportive of me getting them done. Recently he's been getting defensive and controlling about me wearing more revealing tops. Is he right to ask me to cover up? Or should he chill out and enjoy that he has a wife who went from A's to D's?

Whoa, I think he's got to chill out a little bit.

Yeah, dude, why are you trying to cock block all of us?

Now? Yeah, when you got this boob job, he probably thought— he probably thought you were getting them for him. And he didn't realize that you have an entire life outside of when he's looking at your chest.

Let the girls play. Let them play. Get them some air. I actually think we're kind of borderline doctors on this podcast. I think post-op boob job, you have to let them breathe, otherwise they'll get suffocated.

Yes.

That's part of the—

you don't use it, you lose it.

Yeah, exactly. Zach, you agree?

You got to let them settle.

Yeah.

Drop some.

It's like a foundation of cement.

Exactly. I've got to settle a little bit. They start high and then they'll find a resting spot.

Yeah, I don't know that he was ready for, for all that you having new boobs would entail on the— like when you're out in public. I don't think he was ready for that. The attention that you would be getting if he's just—

here's what you can do if he continues to insist on this. Be like, dude, you can get a dick enlargement. Reverse it on him.

Yeah, you can wear all the, all the Speedos you want. You can ball max. You can start to ball max. And then did you guys read about that?

Ball maxing?

Yeah.

Missed that one.

Nope.

It's new.

It's new.

I don't think I need to elaborate.

Spark notes.

Like big balls.

Like Max is right.

What?

Big balls. You just do stuff into their— into their ass, which is the stupidest thing ever because it just makes your dick look small.

What are we doing?

It's dumb.

Can confirm.

Yeah. Big meaty clankers.

What are we doing?

Hey boys, love the show. Joe, having a problem at work. Every time I hear someone say good question in my everyday life, especially at work, I instantly repeat good question as a courteous AWL that I am. Everyone around me is confused, aside from the men who are clearly AWLs, who seem to get skittish awkward when they realize I also listen. I mean, she's hot. Is this a problem, or should I embrace it and keep going? Thanks. Go Celtics. We'll be back.

I think you embrace it. You embrace it. What's wrong with complimenting people on questions?

Mm-hmm.

That was a good question that you asked.

Yeah, good question. Yeah, this, this girl rocks.

Let her— let—

be yourself. This podcast is for everyone.

No, but like she's saying, like, you know, she's in—

yeah, the guys weirded out.

No, but she's in a board meeting. Maybe she's not— like, there's a guy presenting, someone else asks a question, and the guy presenting is like, good question, and then she just chimes up for no reason, good question.

That's awesome.

I don't know.

That might be like, you might be like, why?

Like, they'll get over it.

Are you in the right place to be complimenting me on or acknowledging me for saying good question?

They'll get— that's a good question. Yeah, it's a good question.

Uh, hey PMT, my fiancée has been obsessed with playoff hockey for the last month. He won't be watching any of the shows we've been watching together like The Boys or The Bear after he's done work.

Work.

He told me that there— when the Stanley Cup Finals begin, there will be more gap days that we can fill in to catch up on our shows. Do I just suck it up for the next 3 weeks, or is there anything I can do to stop him from watching playoff hockey? His team, the Flames, didn't even make the playoffs, so I don't know why he's so obsessed. Please help. You actually wish that his team made the playoffs and lost in the first round because then he would not be as obsessed.

Also, has anyone kept up with the Bear? I stopped for season 2? No, I heard it wasn't great.

This—

the—

I think I think got worse. Yeah, weird.

It became no longer like a funny show because season 2 was, was fine.

I think season 1 was great. I watched the first few episodes and it was not for me.

So he's actually doing you a favor. Yeah. Also, you could just watch—

didn't The Boys get crazy too?

Yeah.

Memes is the biggest Boys guy of all time.

Memes loves The Boys.

You love the number one Boys guy.

Yeah, I still get— Yeah, just watch on your own if you want to. What does it matter?

Save it.

And then you can just rewatch it with him and just be scrolling Instagram while you're watching. Like, oh, I bet you this is gonna happen. Should predict everything. Also, you just get a second TV.

My fiancée has been gone for the past 5 days. I've watched like the entire— I just rewatched the entire Entourage show.

It's been—

it's been—

love that.

That's love that. Is she gonna be mad when she gets back? Like, why don't you wait for me?

Certainly not. Certainly not.

Definitely. Okay, good show.

Numbers: 11, 77, 43, 15, 56, 85, 48.

Happy belated birthday to Jersey Jerry. PFT missed on Monday.

I wish—

no shot.

I wish him a birthday yesterday online.

No, I know, on the internet, on the show.

I said I went to x.com, the Everything app, and I said—

crazy—

is that—

I posted happy birthday, Jersey Jerry.

Your whole thing on this show is doing birthday shoutouts.

That's not my whole thing.

Yes, it is.

It's about 5 seconds at the end of the show.

It's, it's, it's the bad part about being a, uh, a birthday guy is like you want to wish—

you're horrible.

You want to wish people happy birthday. They don't give you credit for the ones that you nail.

Only the ones—

hard to find them.

The only— the ones that you miss.

All right, everyone say their numbers. Say them again real quick.

77, 83, 48, 15, 85, 69.

69 for Jake. Memes, what was yours? 11. No one else got— oh, Jacob.

Jacob.

39, getting one in. Yeah, let's go! One more, one more, one more, one more song.

This is one I'm gonna go.

Sure about that? Yeah, I think it's gonna be 56 right here. 32, 32, 32, 32, 42.

Nope, Shaq.

32.

Skip Bayless's number 3 best player of all time. 32. Uh, happy birthday to, uh, Dennis Rodman. Happy birthday to Tyrann Matthew Jackson-Dart. And then Thursday, happy birthday to Max Homa. Good luck, Max. Happy birthday, Jack Hughes. Happy birthday to Grind Happy birthday to Clay Matthews and happy birthday to Frank Gore and his giant balls on Thursday. Love you guys.

Anyone he missed, please?

Happy birthday, Stevie Wonder.

Oh, he'll never— he's not going to see— no, he'll be able to listen though.

Yeah, he can listen to this.

No, he was— he watched YouTube and he got pissed off.

Number one AWL.

He got pissed when we switched to Netflix. He said, fuck you guys.

Loves all the other podcasts.

Love you guys.