Transcript of The Mothman Cometh

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Hi, Sam. Welcome to Konan O'Brien needs a fan.

Hey, how are you there?

Hey, Sam. How are you?

I'm doing really good. How are you doing?

Doing great. First of all, loving the hair, Sam. You got the- Thank you.

I know.

I thought it was inspired. I love I'm not egotistical enough to say it's the cone and swoop because I didn't invent it. I called it the cone and swoop. I didn't invent it. I think Bob's big boy invented it, but it looks very cool. I'm loving that. Tell us a little bit about yourself, Sam.

My name's Sam, and I live in Chicago and been a big fan of yours since forever. Thank you. Actually, with my first paycheck, I actually bought a TV. It was back in 2003, a little tiny LCD TV that I could watch your guys' show in my room right before I went to bed, so I wouldn't keep everyone else in the house up.

Wow. So you have excellent comedy taste and you're considerate. That's a great combination.

Yeah, I try to be. My brother, whose name is also Matt, also has always loved you two. He's about as tall as you two. Oh, wow. Okay. I would have been as tall as you if I had If I had a wide chromosome, but I am a trans guy, which means that I started life as a girl, and when I was 33, I transitioned to being a guy. Okay. Yeah. And Tell us, how old are you now?

How long ago did you transition?

I transitioned when I was 33 years old. I started, and I'm going to be 39 next month.

You look fantastic, by the way. Yeah, no kidding. I was going to say, you look like you're 22 years old.

I know. Well, that's one of the perks of transitioning a little bit later is you always look a little bit younger when you're transitioning from female to male. But For me, for some people in their early 20s, that's not so great. But in your 30s, I'll take it. I'll look younger.

That's totally cool of me. I was going to say, I was thinking, I want to transition from a man my age to a man who's much younger. Someone figured it out.

Don't we all, though? Yeah, I got to figure that one out, too. If I could figure out how to transition my joints and all of my problems. They're going to figure it all out.

Have you watched The Substance? We'll figure it out. They're working on. Demi Moore is working very hard on this.

It worked out great for her, too.

Yeah, it looked like it did to me. So, Sam, what's your gig? What's your job? What do you do?

So pretty much I run my own business. I actually make like adult toys. I've actually been in the industry since 2008. But when I started transitioning, which I think it was that, it was like 2019, I noticed that there wasn't toys on the market that were super compatible with trans anatomy and the changes that your body goes through when you do that?

Oh, that would be true. Yeah.

I was like, Hey, I've got these skills from working in the industry. Can I translate they had into something that works good for a variety of different body types. That's what I've been doing pretty much since then. It's mostly just been me, my designer who lives in Denmark, and then just recently, one of my partners started helping me make toys just to keep up on orders.

Now, I'm curious. You were in the adult toy business before you transitioned, is that right? Yes. I see. Okay. Then realized that, Hey, wait a minute. There's a market here that's not being taken care of.

Yeah, exactly. There was definitely stuff out there, and I swear I probably bought one of everything just to see. Then it's taken a while, but one of our toys took four years to finally design, so it would be compatible. Then another thing we completely came up with that nobody else has done is we came up what's called a grindable, which is halfway between a sleeve and a grind pad, which is something that some people use, like cis women will generally use to grind up against. We invented something that was halfway between that me and my designer.

Then when it's ready for market, how do you get the word out?

One of the things... Our toys are crypted-themed. They're basically fantasy toy-themed. That was what my old business did, so I just kept going with that. But mine are crypted base. Meaning all of my toys are- Monsters and stuff like that. Yeah. They're based on monsters and folklore. We have a Mothman, we have Minitar, we've got the Jersey Devil. We're trying to come up with more stuff.

What's the Mothman one like?

I think you have a customer here. I'm going to show you. This is our Moth Man.

Oh, wait a minute.

This is our medium. We have two sizes smaller. No, it's not.

We have two sizes smaller. That's a medium?

Yeah, we have two sizes smaller. What are you guys?

What are you talking about? What's the big deal?

We have two sizes smaller and two sizes bigger. But yeah. And then these are all made of platinum cure medical grade silicone. These are not the toys that you just buy online that are just made of unknown materials.

You want to make sure you're using medical grade.

They're all medical grade safe. Yeah. One of the cool things that I can do is I can fade the silicone. You start with one. It's one bucket and you fade all the way down to a different color. It's fun. You jekle so much. I have a background in art, too, so that helps. It is beautiful. Art and comedy. I mean, you have to have a sense of humor to do this.

You do comedy as well?

Yeah. All throughout high school, I did improv and theater and all of that. Then when I got out of high school, I was like, Man, I really miss this. I ended up starting a... We go to furry conventions which is another way that we market because there's a big market for like- And explain for anyone who's listening who doesn't know, including me, exactly, what is the Furry World is? The Furry Fandom is just a group of people that enjoy anthropomorphic animals. We're talking stuff like Bugs Bunny all the way up to Zutopia, things like that. People just enjoy that. For the most part, it's very just like family friendly, but there is a not safe for work side of the fandom. There's a not safe for work echelon of every fandom, including probably Team Coco.

That's true. This work is not safe I did hear those.

Someone was reading those. I think it was Sona had the fan fictions that- Yes.

No, there's that echelon in every world. You can't go. If you're a geologist, there's a not safe for work fandom Oh, yeah, 100%.

The same goes for the cryptozoology stuff, and that's why there's a whole monster lover community, things like that.

But when I first started doing it- You do comedy because you have all these different worlds that you're exploring or that you're part of. You said that you're also in the in the in the in the comedy world, but in the furry world as well. Do those cross over? Do you do comedy in the furry- At Furry Convention. At Furry Conventions?

Yeah. So I really missed doing I really missed doing improv, specifically. One year, I asked a convention if I could host an improv panel, and we just called it Who's Lion? It was like an animal pun on Who's Lion? Is it Anyway?

I don't know why, but I think that's a very marketable idea, Who's Lion? It was.

It's really funny. I like that. We ended up... Our first show had 60 people, and what we ended up doing was we just let the audience come up and participate. I would work and play the games. I was just basically running like, Hey, we're playing this game now. We've had up to 500 people at one show. I mean, obviously, not everybody can participate at that point when there's that many people. But we do try to get as many people up as possible to play in these games so we can just share in the love of- Everyone's dressed as animals. Not everybody. I would say 10% of a furry convention actually has costumes. But then these are just people who are coming to hang out and we have a common interest and they to come up on stage and have a good time. Some of them are in suit. I've done it in suit. When we do a charity version of Who's Lion, I'll generally be in my fur suit.

What's your fur suit?

My fur suit is an African wild dog. I've had a bunch of different fur suits throughout the years, but my current one is an African wild dog.

You're on stage doing comedy dressed as an African wild dog? Yes. Okay. My mind is expanding in so many amazing ways.

I'm still on that The Mothman schlong.

Yeah, the Mothman schlong.

You just had that ready to go. That was right off camera. What else you got?

I have a ton right off camera. Let's do a parade. Come on. Let's do a parade. First of all, remember I talked about the grindable? Whoa. This is our invention. We actually have the provisional patent on these. We have two of them. We have the serpent interface and the xeno interface.

That must have been a fun day at the patent office. I can just picture a really nerdy guy. Tell me what you have. I have these.

Me. Well, thankfully, my business lawyer is a patent lawyer, and he's just like, he's so cool about it. He's like, whatever. Then another thing that we did was we actually ended up scaling it up. Cismen could use it as a masturbatory Wait, is that just friction-based or is it electronic?

Yeah.

Professor. It's all silicone.

I've never seen you this involved in the engineering of anything.

You use it like you would a fleshlight. What? You use it like you would a fleshlight.

Oh, fleshlight.

It's all textured on the inside and everything.

It's like a tube that you stick your dick in to.

It's a flashlight that you fuck.

Yeah, you fuck a flashlight. But it's like inside is not like a electronics.

That's what a paper towel tube is for. My wife's always like, Where's the Why is a paper towel just everywhere?

We want stuff that lasts a little bit longer than that, though.

How I can make them last. You just got to shellack them first and bake them in the sun. Oh, God. My wife, Why Why all these towels just all over the place? Oh, God. Sorry, dear. I was fashioning a fleshlight.

Oh, my God.

Wow, my marriage is over now. You He's going to see me walking alone down the highway with a suitcase. And a paper towel. No, you open the suitcase and 15 paper towel holders fall out. Oh, my God. This thing is broken. This thing is broken. All right. I'm picturing you doing improv or stand up on stage dressed as an African wild dog. That must be a little challenging because it's hard enough to do improv, but when you're dressed as a furry animal, that's got to be really challenging.

Yeah. I mean, We have microphones on stage. One of the funny things about it is that when you do have a fur suit and you are on stage, and especially even if it's a smaller crowd, we still have to get the microphones on the fur suiters. Normally, I have no problem projecting, but even in suit, I have issues with it. You have to put the microphone all the way in the fur suit mouth so it's up against your mouth in the head. It just looks like you're, well, deep a microphone when you're doing that.

I hate for something untoward to happen.

Yeah. But yeah, no, we always have a really good time.

I love how delicate you were about, Oh, and it's, I don't know how else to say this. You just showed us nine different products. It would get me arrested in any airport.

I just saw a purple-spiked clam that was a sex toy. A clam.

Well, I I mean, I go through the airports all the time with these in my carry-on. Well, they don't feed. Because I want to make sure that they don't get lost because we go to conventions to sell, and I've had packages get lost. In Boston, specifically, there are two boxes of my toys that just never showed up to a convention in Boston that we were at. Because they were practicing? Those are just somewhere. No, they got delivered to the hotel and someone signed for them, but nobody could find them. I don't know where they are. They knew what they had. Now we put air tags in all of our boxes.

They probably think they're staplers or something. Exotic staplers. Yeah. Exotic staplers. Katinka, Katinka, Katinka. Hey, I got this new paperweight.

You mean the Mothman?

I have a paperweight, and look, I have a stapler that looks like, as you would call it, a clam. Yes.

A clam.

Listen, You've expanded my mind in wonderful ways. This is an impressive business that you've got going here. Thank you.

It means a lot.

Do you have a factory? Where's the actual production done?

It's done right here at my house. My entire basement is finished. It's a finished basement that we've completely set up to do all the... We have We have seven 3D printers. We have a couple of vacuum chambers because we have to take all the air out of the silicone before we pour it, so there's no bubbles in the toy. We just do everything here, just locally, and I get all my supplies locally.

I'm thinking there's chemicals then in your basement. You would hate there to be... There never could be an explosion or anything because you don't want these things raining down in the neighborhood. No, no.

The dildo is not flammable.

Look out. Put up your umblettes.

Like a mess lab?

We do have a-.

I'm just picturing them coming down like missiles.

All the dildos just raining from the sky. But no, there's the- Someone looks up and goes, Oh, no.

We have an exhaust fan. Out of control. This is an out of control interview. Oh, my God. I blame you, Sam. This is your fault. You took a very serious, sober podcast. It's becoming- Oh, yeah.

Very serious. We're very dramatic, serious podcast.

Did Sam have a question for me?

You have a question, Sam?

Yeah. One of the things that I always wondered is, do you ever wish that they still made the O'Taco at TACO Bell?

Oh, that's right. I think I did a remote once. Did I do a remote once?

Yeah, you did a remote. It's one of my favorites.

I went with... Who did I go? Hayes. I went with Chris Hayes. That was a fun remote. Yeah, it was. I have to say, and we are not sponsored by TACO Bell or anything, but man, that was delicious. What was in it? Do you remember? I'm trying to remember. It was delicious. It was like corn beef hash, potatoes.

I was going to guess. Then I believe you dumped a Guinness on it. Yes.

You can't go wrong dumping a Guinness on anything. But yes, I remember taco Bell, they asked me to design something, and so I went all Irish on them. I think I had one bite and then had a massive heart attack. Yeah, I'm shocked it's not in every taco Bell. I guess taco Bell decided not to go wide with it. But if you're ever at the Dublin taco Bell, it's their biggest seller. Bio, taco. But yeah, ever since then, anytime I can get potatoes and tacos, there's a couple of places.

I mean, like, TACO Bell does do that, but there's other places that sell mashed potatoes and tacos and stuff like that. I always have to get it because I always think about it.

Well, they ripped me off, man. They ripped me off. You've got to make sure no one's ripping you off, too. They did. Hey, that's a good question because it sounds like you're onto a market. There might be people out there that are like, Hey, wait a minute. I'm glad you got the patents. That's the important thing, especially on the math.

Yeah, for that one. Yeah, especially. It's still provisional patents. Rest assured that's sitting on some government office somewhere waiting to get a It's right on their desk.

Yeah, it's waiting there. Sam, it was very cool talking to you. You're very funny and best of luck with your business, and we're very lucky to have you as a fan.

Yeah, I'm lucky to have you guys to listen to because you guys are always on when I'm working on stuff. I always save the podcast for it when I have long days to get through orders.

That's very cool. We inspire the dildos.

We do. You do?

You guys are like the kill. There's a little bit of us in that thing.

Yes, in every single joint. Then my one partner wanted me to show you this. He made a Team Coco colored. Look at that. This is a biomech.

Actually, that's exactly what mine looks like. Oh, my God. I'm sorry, but I was in an industrial accident when I was nine. I was in a pumpkin patch that exploded. All right, Sam, we're going to take off, but thank you so much.

Take care. Yeah, it was nice meeting you all.

Really cool meeting you, Sam. Have a great day. Have a great day.

Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

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