Transcript of E560 Antonio Brown

Today's guest is a former NFL wide receiver, a pro bowler, maybe one of the greatest NFL receivers of all time. He played for the Pittsburgh Steelers, the New England Patriots, briefly for the Bucaneers, and possibly for the Raiders. Since then, he found himself in multiple endeavors, like his prestigious Cracker of the Day Awards, where he gives out awards to Whites and Honkies and others. I had a good time getting to know him He is very unique. Today's guest is the C-T-E-S-P-N Bad boy, Mr. Antonio Brown.

I Like, damn, get off my DJ.

Yeah, people on it. Oh, I didn't see them, but I believe they They got a lot of lerkers around here. A lot of lerkers.

Yo, I like this haircut, though. What is that? A mullet?

Let me think of how they call it. I'm trying to think of the term for it.

That shit is swaggy, though. I ain't going to lie.

I think it's... Yeah, some people call it that. I never...

Oh, it's a rat. I know your hat say rat tail.

That's rat king, baby.

Rat king right there, baby.

But I think for me, it's just...

If you could keep the mic still. Oh, we on right now? We live?

No, we can wait.

I'm live. I'm ready. Come on. Shit, we in this... We on. We fucking here, though.

Some people call it a mullet. I think it's just as is, man. You want to go shade today? We can do them.

What do we got? We go wait to put them on, whatever. We got to step into the shade time. All right, we'll do that. Let's put a shade on. I need a pair, though. Bring my guys some shade. You're going to move. Let me see what we got.

You got some of those?

Yeah, put those shit on. 711 Classic. Are they? Yeah, Gas Station, movie Theater.

711, 712, bitch. Welcome. Let's go. We're taking it to the next level in these bitches.

We're going to the movie, we got to go 3D.

All right, we're going 3D out the gate, boys.

Right to the movies. I'm with TV, baby.

Good to see you today, man. Good to see you, TV.

My movie theater. Why they don't call you TV? They always say Theovon. They don't just say TV.

I'm trying to think if some people says TV or not. Some people might say it, but I don't know.

It's a good question. Come on, man. Your nickname should be television.

Yeah, I'm trying to think of what a good nickname for me would What's your nickname? A-b.

Gold Diva, Good Dick, Mr. Catch-em-all. You never heard of Ash Ketchum?

Ash Ketchum?

Ash Catch-Em. He catch Pokémons. He does? But his slang was catch them all.

And it's an Asian guy?

Yeah, Asian guy.

They love to get out there and catch them. Drawings, animations. They should have an Asian... Like a Asian Pokémon.

Catch them all.

Championships.

Yeah, that'd be cool.

I don't see... That's something I would love to witness more of. A. B, good to see you, man.

Thank you, man. How are you doing?

I'm alive, man. It's a lot of pressure out there. The trenches are getting fucking tight.

Real tight. It's getting sticky.

It's getting sticky. Bro, somehow I have to leave my shoes and just walk off in my socks, bro, because- Got to.

Got to leave your footprint and be out, bro. Pull a A, B, bro. Just be out, bro. Fucking. That's it, huh? Yeah, that's it, bro.

That must have been the best day whenever you quit your job. Yeah, that was the best, bro. Because I think there's a part of that, bro, where everybody could feel Because everybody wants to take that shirt off and walk out there.

Take that moment, right? But some people can't.

Buy FedEx. Buy fucking... What's another good company? Ups. Ups, Target, anything.

It's always good, man, where you go walk out on your own freedom and make the moves that you believe in. Life is already written for everyone. If you want to be a football player, you know. If you're in high school, you got to pass the clearing house, you got to have the right grades for the SAT. It's a certain requirements that they lay out for what you got to be to be that. In my life, you got to lay out what you want to be within yourself. Most of the time, the most important thing is to be in tune with God. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, because I guess as a football player, the path is there. It's like you got to do this, you got to be- Everything lined up for you.

In my life, you got to create your own life, man. You got to have the freedom in the balls to choose what you want. Football don't last forever. It's injuries. It's a lot of things that go into it. Oh, hell, yeah.

Oh, damn.

You all got them-We got the honey pack.

You all got them backwards, huh?

Yeah, I brought some Zai. I know you- You can smoke it, man.

I'll watch you.

All right, bet. I'll fucking watch you smoke that shit. This is like therapy. You know, as a Black man, they always want to fuck me over.

Who does? Backwards? How many is in there? They put five in there, huh? Yeah. Why? Isn't they short?

They always short us. Got to have one on the bench.

That's how you get your week Oh, damn. What's in there? That reminds me of a poppy steak. They bring that steak out to you. You've been there?

Of course. That's where all the girls like to go.

Poppy steak, huh?

Yeah, they like that beef at poppies.

Dang. That's when everybody comes running, you shake that. I like you shake that eight ball at a party. Bro, you have them Coke ghosts. They show up like, they've been dead, but they hear the eight ball shaking. They'll be like, oh.

They go crazy. See that 80?

Dude, there's poppy steak right there. That's where they pull up.

Yeah, that's the movie steak.

They're grillin that meat right there.

Yeah, they're going crazy. That meat came in a lunchable.

Bro, that's a rich ass lunchable.

That's a fire, right?

That's a rich ass lunchable right there.

That shit came in a hot pocket.

Dude, my mom used to put Silverware. She would fuck me. She put Silverware in a lunch box. Nothing in that bitch. I tried to open it up.

Bam, boy. What the fuck you was eating? Nothing, bro. Stay hungry, huh?

Yeah, stay You're motherfucking this hour.

Keep going.

Keep going, boy.

You're the chitches.

My mom had a good sense of humor. She was like, Ha, ha, I love you. That's what she meant. She put it in there. The note was nice, but it still... Yeah, I would have preferred some proteins or Something like something in there. But yeah, what you smoking, Backwoods?

Yeah, I smoke Backwoods.

I got my nephew some good Backwoods clothing for-Oh, yeah.

They do come out with some clothing.

Christmas last year.

Sweats and hoodies, right? Yes. He's a Backwood guy?

I think he's nine. I don't know if he is or not. He's still pretty young. He's young. He's a Roblox guy. Yeah, okay. But if they did a Roblox Backwood collab, he'd be on it. That's him right there. Max in the middle.

Yeah, I have some kid.

Yeah, he's pretty good. He got a good I have a hairline on him.

I know. A kid, Swaggy.

Yeah, I don't look at him too much.

Where are you from? Are you from New Orleans?

I'm from outside of Louisiana. I'm outside of New Orleans. I'm trying to think if we had any pro athletes that came out of our area.

Yeah, one of my baby moms said they came from the same spot What you in? Really? Yeah, you know I got a baby mom collection.

How many? Damn, how many you got?

I think I got enough. It's in the back of it, maybe five.

Oh, wow. You got a pack. You got a starter pack.

Yeah. I woke up a sour patch. Where's I'm going to start a pack.

Somebody said you're not a real Black father until you've had three kids. Is that true or not? Like in the Black community, that's what I heard.

No, I think you ain't a Black father until you get on child support. Because then you know what it takes to be a Black father. I think my dad was on child support years and years. I think it's just like in a Black community, I feel like the government is taking our woman. It's like, Yo, if you When you grew up in an inner-city community, you had a kid with a woman. It's like, if you're going to go out of the way and try to make some of yourself, the government going to take your spouse because now they tell the spouse, You're going to be in Section 8. You're going to get free food, food stamps. The government just took my mom. Now they took my mom. Now my dad can't even come back to the house. Why?

Because if he comes back, then she loses the- The benefits.

Exactly. So it's like the government really just took your bitch. So as a Black father, it's like, Man, the Experience that, you really... You know what I mean? To be a Black dad in all seriousness is really bad because you have a kid and you're trying to go out and make some of yourself. And these women, the government come in and take it right out because it's like, yo, it's hard to be a dad. My dad had me when he was in college at Louisiana Tech.

Oh, he went to Louisiana Tech? Yeah, right there. Up in Ruston, huh?

Yeah, right where you were, right around your area.

Was he playing ball up there?

Of course. My dad was touched on Eddie Brown, like a greatest receiver all the time.

Bring him up. I want to see a picture of him, man.

Touchdown Eddie Brown. Pull up the Louisiana Tech. There you go right there.

Pull up Eddie, bro. If you need him, he's in the end zone. That's where you're going to have to pull him up from.

They call him Touchdown. He got like 300 tutties. Hey, bro. He's like the number one Arena League football player all the time.

Really? In Boise, where did he play Arena at?

He played at Albany Fivers, the team I just bought. And I realized they don't want us to own shit either, bro. I bought the team. They was kicking me off the field. I think I just got to move out of America. What do you think, TV.

I'm trying to think where you could because you would be considered an export at that point. Yes. So that's a trade agreement we'd have to get with another continent, I would guess. I'm trying to think of who we could get for you. Who could we get on the international market? That's a good question. That's what I'm saying.

Who could we do it?

Who are they going to be doing? How are they going to trade a A, B for?

That's what I'm saying. What the market value for this shit?

Yeah, what's the...

What's the pussy rate on that?

Yeah, what's the exchange rate on the Nas dick? What's the exchange I'll get paid on the A/B if we put you out there.

For real, I'll be feeling like a cow or a dog. Like these bitches, Theo, these bitches want to milk me like a cow.

Who are you talking about when you say them?

People in general, people that's around you that know your position. Theo, you're real successful now. Do people just take photos of you everywhere, or do people expect more out of you? If you was going to a restaurant with your buddies, who covering the town?

Yeah, I think I would like to cover it most of the time just because I know that I have the ability to cover it without having to worry about it as much, maybe the next day or week. But sometimes, yeah.

You don't feel like a cow?

I feel like a cow, but I feel like I'm my own shepherd at the same time.

Okay, I like that. You got to be your own shepherd, but you don't want people to treat you like a cow. You don't want people to treat you like a cow.

Yeah, no, I think what makes me uncomfortable Yeah, sometimes if people are recording you for no reason, that's weird.

Exactly. But that's the new world we're living. Everyone want to get that film of you just so they can show somebody later or just feel like they're cool by a I'm in the negotiation. It's like, Yo, boy, I didn't want you to record me right now. I'm relaxed.

Yeah, we don't even- You need cameras right now. Dude, I saw one one time. It was me just walking somewhere, dude. I'm not the best walker or whatever.

How you walk? You got a nice scroll? Are you walking What you emphasizing when you walking with a scrut, TV?

I say chest up. Yes.

Eyes up. Yeah. You on your toes or your heels?

I'm right in the middle, baby. You know what I'm saying? I'm that middle dog. You won't catch me on a front or the back, though.

Like that, just somewhere in the middle.

I'll see it at the 50 yard line. That's where I'm at, bro.

Right between the legs.

Yeah.

Right in the middle. Yeah.

I'm that fulcrum, baby. I'm just because you don't know if the Lord's getting me or the devil's getting me. I'm right there. I'm on that tight rope. That's how I walk. I like that. I'm on that fucking tight rope, boy. You don't know if I'm fucking... You don't know what I'm doing. I like that. But yeah, I like to be... I walk. Let me see. Yeah, I push my... I'm moving forward.

Like a demon.

Wow. Yeah, like a pretty nice demon, though. Like that nice- I like that.

Yeah, like that- Superhero vibes.

Like that nice-ass demon. Yeah, but sometimes I saw a video one time and it was like, damn, this dude ugly, bro. That was a fucking video. That was the caption.

There was hate no you? When somebody call you ugly, that means you're swaggy. That's an excuse for it.

They didn't mean it like that.

I think they didn't mean it like that.

I like your attitude.

When people call you ugly, that means you Waguih. Look at this ugly motherfucker. That means you look a fly, bro.

You know what I'm saying? That's a good attitude. You're right, bro. We ugly as fuck, son.

Ugly motherfucker.

Yeah, if you need me.

Ugly ass.

Look Look at these pieces of shit. That's a good attitude, man. You're right, I am ugly, motherfucker. And watch my ugly ass get some shit done.

Yeah, watch this ugly motherfucker go to work.

Yeah, right. That's a good attitude.

Life is about attitude. You know why? It really is. People like to create narratives, create stories. They don't really care how people feel. They don't care how your family react. They keep us at a certain level. I don't think that's just a community because, bro, I grew up in Miami, Florida. At Liberty City. We had a big drug game, if you never heard about it, called John Doe.

Michael Irvin, huh?

Yeah, but Michael Irvin just played football in Miami. I don't know if he grew up in Liberty City. I think he grew up in Brouhaha, so I don't really know what his lifestyle was. But I know I grew up on 58 Terrace in 17th Avenue in the heart of Liberty City. You know what I'm saying? In the culture of a Black community, because I know I love to see you talk about Black people, Black community, because I feel like you're from New Orleans, so you've been around a lot of Black people your whole life. But being in Liberty City is not the country because I know New Orleans is like country, low country.

It's like a mix. Louisiana is a mix of- Country. It's a mix of country, light city. Exactly.

But in Liberty City, we We have the John Doe Boys is like the police of the neighborhood. So these guys, you pull them up, Yo, pull up John Doe, Weebase and blow.

Pulling up shit he trying to watch later.

Yeah, I'm trying to educate you guys about the Black community, where we come from. Look up the guy from John Doe. His name, Traveling Bubble. Just look up Miami. John Doe.

Put it on. These motherfuckers watching Mythbusters on this bitch. Put something on, man. Put it on, Jack. John Doe right there. Death penalty case of John Doe, gang leader in peril as judge, disqualified. Liberty City.

You see that? In the 1990s.

In the 1990s.

In Liberty City. So when you do the homework, the Black community is ran by a John Doe group gang. They just make money in our neighborhoods. You see what I'm saying?

They don't even live there.

No, they live there. Oh, they do. They live on the next block on 58th Street. Yes. Trial of his family had a whole house. This guy How to hold. It's like they was running a business in the inner city. That wasn't the right business, but they showed the inner city people hope, like the good cars that came by. When we had football games, they came in deported. You guys playing against them? Oh, yeah. Here go to money jerseys. They gave us hope.

Nice shoes.

Nice opportunities to make us look forward for the great things. But these environments that was called what? Section 8. You ever heard of Section 8? Oh, yeah. So These type of environments was given to who? Our moms. Most of the people that's living in the inner city is single moms that's been provided the house from the government to put us in these places with low income people. We had the 107 sixth and Park to look at TV. We had the John Doe guys that come over and give us hope about... You know what I'm saying? It was like our neighborhood heroes because we didn't see people didn't come to Liberty City and...

Have regular lives? No, they didn't. It wasn't like a lot of dads. There were doctors and shit like that.

No, it wasn't a lot of dad presence, period. Because it's Section 8. Your dad can't even come around these areas. So these areas were outsourced by the government because now if your dad come in, play your mom, they don't get the food stamp card to buy you So these guys was like our heroes that gave us hope in those situations. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Now I see that. I never really thought about that concept before that the dad couldn't come back because it would affect.

Your dad going to come. If your dad come, your mama don't get the Section 8. She don't get the free lunch, the free housing. What women who have a lot of kids and a lot of stress and a lot of dudes with a lot... You know what I mean?

Yeah, I didn't thought about it like that. You know what I mean? Well, in our neighborhood, in our area, a lot of the Black girls, they all got pregnant over the summertime after seventh grade.

Because white people, I love my white people, they put their kids on birth control at 16. They already got a chip in them that's blocking it. That's probably caused the other Black moms. They already had a kid probably early. So whatever your family or your mom, whatever you grew up in that situation, to you, that would come the normacy. You know what I mean? The percentage of Black women going to college is pretty low. So If you're in a neighborhood where it's a fast neighborhood and people growing up fast and they doing stuff fast, you're probably... I mean, the likely chance of you definitely getting pregnant because alpha male, you know black dick is king.

Yeah. I haven't seen it. I've seen something online. I don't need to see any right now. You know what I'm saying? I'm good. I hope these shades block out black dick, bro. You feel me? Because I ain't trying to see any today, bro.

The rate of fucking... In the In Liberty City, they see a fine girl, they're like, Yo, TV, you're not in that? You should not in that. That's what the Black culture are emanated in Liberty City.

So then I have to go over and try to get some sex with the lady?

I mean, no, they're telling you Did you nut in that? If you was from Liberty City and you brought a hot girl, they would have been like, Yo, TV, you ain't nut in that? They give you the wrong guidance at an early age. Imagine, you in the neighborhood.

They didn't say, Hey, TV, you didn't take that lady on a nice date?

No, they don't tell you take it on the date. They're just going to say Bust a nut in it. Oh, wow.

What up? Dude, the cracker of the year this year was Shane Gillis, man. Congratulations, dude.

Shane Gillis is amazing, man. The cracker of the year was Donald Trump.

Oh, he was cracker of the year.

Yeah, man. He overcame so much, and he kept his class. He kept his coolness. Imagine, he almost got killed while running for President. Almost got took down by people trying to take him to jail. You never really see a cracker really go through this type intensity of his life and the government trying to take you down. It's only like a nigger thing, to be real. But he handled it with such class.

Did that give him more respect?

Of course. You see how many Black people changed the tie and switched for him? You see Steven A. Smith apologize like a bitch now? Yeah, he fell on his knees, too.

Everybody. Exactly. Because he had a certain point- He showed it.

Because Trump showed that he could be a nigger and handle it with class. It's like, bad people go through that shit all the time. Look at my boy, Yunk, though. He was fucking with the jail for some shit he made up. Some shit was made up. You know what I mean?

Free Young Thug. Free Quavo, too. Is he locked up?

No, these guys out. Quavo, Young Thug is out. Oh, good. Free Young Dirk.

Free Young Dirk. What did he do or what didn't he do?

I mean, what they There you do. It's a bunch of he say, she say. I don't know the fact. Don't ask me, Jack. Don't ask me. I got nothing to do with it.

I got nothing to do with it.

You did?

But no, that's a big thing that happened for Trump was they put him on all of those charges. He was in court every week, and then they tried to shoot him. They tried to kill him. If any group could probably relate to some of that type of energy, Black community.

They're trying to kill us every day. You know about My Luffy King, you've seen Nipsey Hut. It's a whole list of... Yo, pull up the list of Black guys that was elite who just died out the blue. Maybe it was... What do they call it when they kill you out the blue and they don't even know?

Oh, assassination or whatever?

No, that's when they just kill you.

Oh, they What they call it when they kill you and they just be like, Oh, it was...

You know what it's called?

Oh, what? Accident? Assassinate? No, we just tried that one.

Conspiracy? Exactly. It was a Capucci.

Yeah.

A pussy, yeah. They think Black people is the new vagina, the designer vagina.

We're going to keep using them.

Keep fucking them. No, you're going to keep fucking them. What happened to Kobe Bryant? I never see no other airplane going down.

Never When other time has it happened when a chopper just went off like that?

Yeah, and it was for Kobe Bryant, though. I think Donald Trump just did a big thing yesterday. Release the conspiracy information for the King family. Martin Luther King. Why is this hiding conspiracy amongst people of my people that's being fucked over.

Well, why? First of all, if we live in a country where it's free, where the communication-Yeah.

Why didn't his family didn't get the the condolences to know what happened?

Why didn't we all just get the truth? You know what I'm saying? Why the files have to be... Why is there a secret files?

Because Black guys are like design a vagina. They just get fucked. I mean, that go to list. You got the list?

Black Lindsay Aga, bro.

Yeah, it's like they're just fucking you over.

Well, did you see some of the stuff I've seen is that people are trying to accuse him of being a homosexual.

Of course, that's what happened with every Black man.

They just tried to throw him under the- Just throw your fucking shit that you build up. It don't even matter. Under the L-G-B-U-S Yes.

My Luther King was in a hotel getting pussy before they shot him.

I believe he was.

Come on, man. You see how he look? You think Dr. King is not getting pussy?

Yeah, I could see him definitely getting some.

But that's what they do. They change their narrative on guys.

Well, they wanted to... Why they do that, though? It could be a character assassination.

No. It's always a character assassination when you're Black. They always going to make it seem like you're just too aggressive or too flamboyant.

You know what I'm saying? When you say they are, does it mean like... Are you talking the FBI, the CIA?

I don't know who is they. They is a word that you just try to figure out who is they. You know what I'm saying? So when I say they, I'm not talking about no particular people. But it's definitely some people in All right. I don't know who they is. They is a middle school word. That's why it's called compussy. Caspiracy, compussy. Because we don't know who the guy who's doing the fucking, but we know we getting fucked.

Right.

Right, MTV?

If I wake up with come on my shoulder, bro, something must have happened.

Bro, I'm having wet dreams just come all over my fucking self.

Something must have happened, bro.

Yeah, bro. I was trying to feel like what's going on.

What's going on, man?

What the fuck is going on?

Don't ask me, bro. If you ask me, I don't know. I got nothing to do. My name's Bennett.

I'm not in it, but I'm seeing what's going on. I'm just seeing what's going on.

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That's why I started the Cracker of the Year. To just bridge the gap between people because we all want human race. I was like, You know what? Let me bridge the gap because I love my crackers. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That made me rich. Shout out to Art Rooney. Dan Rooney, some of my favorite crackers of the Year. I just We want to bridge the gap of racism.

Some of the ways to do that is humor. I agree.

Humor, right? You're a funny motherfucker.

Well, thanks, man. You are, too, dude. Thank you, bro. You went about it some unique ways, too. That's your own thing. I think you're really unique. Thank you, brother. Did you always have a desire to be? I know this is a strange question, but did you always have a desire to be unique or to be different?

I just be myself, man. I feel like in life, it's free to be who you are.

But were you always like that as much or was there a point where you're like, You know what? I'm just going to do things how I want to do them now.

No, you got to always respect authority. You know what I'm saying? In life, you got to know your position and respect authority. In life, you need people. You can't really do nothing by yourself. Even playing football is like, I'm going against my man, but I got 10 more men helping me out to make this easier. In life, you need a team. You know what I'm saying? You can never do nothing just by yourself. And there's always a collective of people that's there in your corner that's emanating your higher self. To me, I just always felt like, I grew up in Liberty My dad was a great football player, but my dad endured a lot of adversities through his family. You know what I'm saying? We're just growing up in the '40s with my grandma. My grandma having to work a job and my dad having to take sports for a job early. You know what I'm saying?

Was it even something you think he wanted? Because I feel like this and I wonder if there's a lot of young Black men, young Black women that do sports that don't even really want to be doing them, but it's a means to an end because at some point it was the only I think there's more choices now. Exactly. That's just my outsider judgment. I'm not saying that I know that, but it seems like- You do know that.

That's a valid opportunity because think about it, you're growing up in Liberty City, bro. I'm growing up where it's like drug selling and dope dealers, killings right in this neighborhood. Guys that's going to prison for life right in this neighborhood. So it's like you either become a part of that or you make a commitment right there and you're within yourself to be like, yo, I'm not going to be that. I'm going to do this. That emanates the attitude and that individualistic.

I see what you're saying. You know what I'm saying? Right there, you're creating some sense of individualism just by not going with the mainstream that is in those types of neighborhoods to have a little bit more drugs and violence going on. Exactly.

Because you can either be a part of it because you've seen it, or you could commit to be the difference. You know what I'm saying?

But do the people in the neighborhood that are committed to the more hectic lifestyle and the more trench behavior, do they look down upon on guys who are trying to get out?

No, they respect it, man. Like, those guys that come to me and be like, you don't do what we do, man. Ain't no money, man. Make sure I got your jerseys this week, man. We got the game, two breakdown. So they're giving me incentives. Like, Yo, keep doing this because I feel like guys in the city, when they get accustomed to the gritty, it just because they know, it's like, man, ain't no other way for us. That's how my uncle grew up. My uncle just always felt like, man, I ain't working for nobody. Because he felt like he was already in the system. But I just felt like, man, I wasn't going to let the system deteriorate me from going after who I wanted to be. You know what I'm saying? I feel like a lot of women that's in the Black communities and males, they get accustomed with the trauma and-They almost get addicted to it. The trauma and everything because your whole family here. You see your mom like, damn, this is where my mom went through and turned it to. Sometimes I feel like you feel like, man, it's a part of my family now to just be here.

But to me, I had the attitude like, man, I got going to let my situation now affect what I could be and what I could do because in this situation right here, I could make it better.

Then once there's enough better avenues, the younger yous coming up start to see better opportunities. Better opportunities. I remember when I was growing up The Black kids in my area, they didn't have... We had the best job you could have, it felt like, was a school teacher. We had a couple of Black female school teachers. We had an assistant principal, Raleigh Coleman, shout out, R-I-P. He used to sleep in the trunk of his car at lunch a little bit. He used to catch him a little break, catch him a little nap. Wendy. He used to look probably like one time I was over by the fence. I saw him getting in that bitch. I'm like, Damn, what's Raleigh doing? And he looked at me like this. Don't tell nobody. Don't He was catching a little nap. But they didn't have a lot. I remember, dude, it wasn't until a few years ago, I went to a doctor for the first time that was a Black doctor.

That's why I've seen you.

I've never seen. And I'd never thought that I'd never seen it before. I've seen Black doctors on television. I'd seen... I'd probably met Black doctors, but I'd never been into the room. You're like, okay, you're going to go meet with the doctor, and you get in there and it's a Black guy. I'm like, damn, is he going to know what's wrong with me? My brain didn't...

Comfortability with it.

Yeah, it was just different. Then I started to think, Well, I wonder what it was like for Black people always going to white doctors. Then be like, Does this doctor care about... Even just the thought in your head, right? Yeah. That was just... It's definitely interesting.

I think you never really see people. I feel like you come accustomed to... You know what I'm saying? It don't matter what color the person is in position. You know what I'm saying? I feel like Black people grew up where it was so rough is that you got to have a lot of love in your heart to not even...

Get into that.

Yeah, to just turn demon. It's like, you got to have... You know what I'm saying? Black people do got a lot of love in their heart because you go through them most. It's like, I can't even be a good football player without somebody saying something negative. It's like, I guess for a Black person, we're used to that. We're used to people assassinating our character or putting pressure on us to turn oil to get more diamonds out of us because that's how we was built.

Yeah, it's in the history, man. Damn. I think I always You fucked some black before, right? Well, let me think about some of this. Yeah, I definitely-Okay.

Did you have an addiction for the Zyna Vajana?

I haven't been to the addiction yet. This was an-Not an addiction.

Everybody get pussy. You know about testosterone? Yes, sir. Okay. Do you ever get like, you got no pussy and you just feel like you're moved off?

Oh, yeah, boy.

Okay, then. So you were a man. You get it. I'm not saying you think that. I'm saying you need sex because it's a part of human body. That's normal. Exactly. It's a normacy. You know what I mean?

Oh, yeah, buddy. I know what you mean. That's normal, man. That's normal behavior. Let me think about this. I definitely envied Black culture sometimes. I mean, a lot A lot of people envy Black culture because Black culture is where people take a product to make it cool. A lot of times a company will come out with a product. Nowadays, they attach a Black artist to it or put it through the Black community in some way, and then it makes it cool. Does that make sense to you?

Of course, because I don't want to say I'm accusing of that or anything.

I'm just saying that that's what I've heard. Does that make sense to you?

That's pretty much a fact of the world. Name some things that's black that you need in your life. Coffee. I know every... Oh, yeah. Coffee. You got Oil. What else you like that's black? Let me just ask you some questions.

Black olives.

All right, so let me just ask you some questions.

Yeah, give him a black olive, right? Fuck them green olive, bro.

If you were to go get a haircut, or if you were to call a handyman, what's some of the Spanish woman clean a house for me, Mexican people clean up real well. You know what I mean? What's some stuff you use Black people for?

Let me think. Feel Good, music, entertainment.

So Black people set the culture for like-Artistic culture. Artistic culture for how you feel, how you're dancing, the value of jewelry.

You know what I mean? Yeah. A lot of culture is set It's coming through the Black culture. Let me think. Let me think of the word I'm looking for. Give me one second here. A lot of Black people, I think, add jazz to things, right? And that could be to music or it could You were getting raw for everything.

What's the artist who was a big artist who just copy everybody?

Bruno Mars or whatever?

No, I don't know. Bruno copy.

Oh, copied? I didn't hear that.

It was a rock star guy who just copy every Black guy song. Big famous guy. You're talking about Elvis? Elvis. Copying off Chuck Berry. All right, thank you. Exactly. Robbed the Black culture of all their songs, and people just let him go with it.

Did he? Bring it up. Did Elvis rob the Black folks? I put that up.

Elvis fucked us over.

Damn, really? His manager was a dog, man. I'm not saying he didn't.

Elvis was fucking Girls That Was Thirteen. How do you think R. Kelly got the artistic to know what a rock star is?

R. Kelly, I think, came up with a little bit of his own shit, man.

Elvis was the only fucking Girls That Was Teenage Asus. Really? Google it so we can educate each other here, please.

Yeah, let's see what's going on, man. What did Blac- Ray Charles.

That boy stole Ray Charles' song, bar for bar.

Everybody stole everything for Ray Charles, bro.

Come on, though. You're right, but It's like, Elvis was so big. Elvis was so big.

You couldn't say, Hey. You couldn't say no against him.

You got to give the credit to the people you take. You just can't rob people for their art.

Oh, I agree with that.

You know what I'm saying? You got to at least get the credits.

In 1994, Ray Charles sat down for an interview with NBC's Bob Kossas and gave scathing critique of Elvis Presley to say that Elvis was so great and so outstanding like he's the king, the king of what? I know too many artists that are far greater. He was doing our music. He's saying that there was some culture vulture style going But does it say that he stole? I'm not saying that he didn't. I've heard this.

Pull up the songs that Ray Charles said that he stole that he could show you the bar for bar. Probably on YouTube.

I'm just trying to get some truth here because I've heard this, too. I don't know if it's true. It might be.

It's definitely I'm going to hit you. But think about it. If Black people ran the country, they'll read you, too, because they'll will their people in a way, too. So it's not like a knock. It's just a fact. If you came in up in music culture and you heard about Elvis Presley because what was Elvis Presley time that he was around? We probably wasn't When you were in the around when he was around. Fifties or whatever. Exactly. So you got to think back, if R. Kelly came up and these guys were looking up to a guy.

Yeah. Oh, no.

I could easily- Play those songs right there.

Okay. 10 Black rock and roll musicians Elvis Presley stole music from.

It was hard for Black artists to get their music played on mainstream stations, but that did not stop record label executives and White artists from discovering music from Black artists and covering their songs. Elvis was arguably one of the biggest stars to cover songs by Black artists while mimicking their mannerisms and vocal inflections. And I said, the king of what?

And he got mad at me. You see, I don't think of Elvis like that because I know too many artists that were far greater than Elvis. I think Elvis was person came along at the right time for him as a white kid that could do rock and roll or rhythm and blues or whatever the name you want to call it, and the girls could swoon over him. That cold got in trouble in Alabama when the women swooned over him, got put out of town. And Black people been going out shaking their behind for centuries. What the hell is unusual about them shaking their hips and stuff? And that's all Elvis was doing was coughing back.

This is Otis Blackwell. Yeah, right there. He is the voice and pin behind some of Elvis's biggest hits such as Don't be Cruel and All Shook Up. After briefly pursuing a solo career, he decided to step behind the scenes and become a songwriter when he discovered how good of a living he can actually make doing that.

Yeah, I'm not saying I'm just curious. I'm curious about it, too, man, because you always hear this, but then I'll never really have any information about it. Because this shit happens all the time in every type of community, in every type of business where people will see stuff, they copy it, and they take it. There's still lawsuits about this every day, it feels like.

Also, the laws at the time didn't... The laws protecting against this are stronger now than they were at the time.

I'm sure. If a black guy walked in a place that he stole my music, he'd probably be scared to even say that because of the repercussions that would come at him.

He was so big for the executive. Back in the days, it was a different time if you just dive into the history and see it wasn't big for black blues, all this. They was cutting you off. That was what Ray Charles was saying. They were stopping your way for even making means. You know what I'm saying?

I could definitely see that.

But that's part of being creative. I love Elvis Presby. I don't want to say there's no knock on Elvis, but I just go back to the theme that was talking about Black people in history been put down. But if a Black person ran the world, it'd probably be the same way.

They would just do it a different way.

They would just do it for the Black people. But it's not a bad thing. It's just what it is.

It's what it is.

Exactly.

But I could imagine this. Imagine this, man. Imagine you created something really cool, especially music. Because I think music is so special to people. Then somebody stole it, right? And you can't even because of how you're perceived. But that's Black culture. That's what I'm saying. But how you're perceived at that time, especially, you couldn't even go in and say, Hey, this person stole it.

Nobody even going to represent you. Who are you going to represent you to go after that? You got to see your craft. But that's the part of being Black, bro. That's the anger that you know you're being robbed. You're being raped of You're a character. You're being character, sassinated. You're being conspired. And it's like you still got to find the energy to put yourself up.

Fucking put your shoes on.

Exactly. Just like being a football player. Like, yo, boy, don't forget a football player is a number, right? It's you a number. They're picking How many are you?

Number 84, number 72. It's all a number.

So it's going to come to an end. You know what I'm saying? You want me to leave when I'm hurt or you want me to leave when they don't want me no more? Okay, so how am I going to transition to another job? Right. Are they All I could be is a coach. I can't even show up on time to be a player.

But, bro, if you work for FedEx, you get that bitch there quick, bro. No, I can't work for FedEx. But I'm just saying, bro.

That's what I'm saying. But that's like an average job from a God coming in.

You know how fast you could get that bitch hair, bro. Less than overnight, bro. You know how many hits I took? You put a post-suit on that thing, bro.

Imagine how many times I hit the ground. I played football since I was six years old to like 31 27 years of somebody you waking up, not even thinking in reality. My life is like, How could I get open on Theo? I'm living this. This is my life, waking up, How am I going to get open? How am I going to win the... That's not even real life, Theo.

Is it?

It's a short part of life.

It's a stick. Yeah, it's not real life, but it's definitely like...

No, it's real, but it's just a part of your life to get to a position in life where you can live a better life. Because how many opportunities you got when you're coming out of a Black neighborhood It. What you really could do? You either could represent the neighborhood, rapping or doing some stuff.

Okay, rapping. Maybe Civit, like no politics.

You could be a- No, I know that guy coming from the city right now.

Come on, they got something. What about that dude at the truck thing the other day?

That was Smokes the Jokes.

That was Smoking the Jokes. The guy at the truck thing the other day, do you see him?

I see him. Pull him up. Let me see what he was repping.

He was Martin Luther X. He was trying to be everybody.

That's what I'm saying. It just looked like a joke.

He was trying to be everybody.

Yeah, he was the nigga of the day.

Oh, he was?

Yeah, he definitely was. He's the only black guy doing some shit like that at a type of event.

Damn, well, you know what I'm talking about?

Exactly. I've been watching.

Yeah, man.

That was hilarious.

He was doing a lot. Oh, damn. That's us right there already.

That's us. Yeah, I'm putting this up.

Who is that guy right there? That's a real cracker.

You're the cracker of the day. Oh, he got it. He got the Ginger beer with the Black fro. Oh, he looked like this. Now, he's rocking out.

He'll sneak in your bank.

Who is your top five flyers crackers? Because you got to be up there.

I'm not up there, man.

Give me your top five. Give me your top five flyers crackers in the world that you know. Wow.

That I know or that I've seen or whatever.

That you'll give top five.

All right, straight up. Out the gate, man, my dog. Brian Purvis, bro, who I grew up with, bro. Okay. One of the OG Wigger kid. Okay. When they used to have them, bro. I used to have a lot of more younger Wigger type of kids. You know what I'm talking about? Bring him up right there. Coming to me in one of the cues of attempted murder on Arn Robby. That's my dog right there, Brian Purvis, bro.

He wanted right now? That was the only time.

No, they got him right now. Oh, shit. But he'll be back. You can't hold him down, bro. He was in learning disabled, bro. Because they put him in there for wanting to be a... They'd never seen a white kid that wanted to be black, right? They put him in learning disabled, bro.

Why they do that to him?

So you had people that had real learning disabilities in there. Fucking Knock Knock Wilson was in that bitch. And then you had Brian Purvis just in there wearing a Scottie Pippin jersey and fucking just flexing.

Just got a swine, right?

Yeah, they're like, No, we never seen this shit. He must be mentally handy cat.

That's what I'm saying. When people don't see something they're used to, they just throw you to the wolves, and that shit could create trauma. Imagine what trauma that created in that kid. Yeah, man. I made him a demon.

He's trying to flex a Larry Johnson jersey, and they put him in there, man.

Because they didn't understand him, man.

So he would be... He's definitely in there, bro. He's goated. He's locked in. I respect that. Other beautiful crackers that are out there that are still existing well in the world. Let me try to find a good...

Travis Kelsey, that up there?

No, he's good, man. But there's so much now. Everywhere, it's getting too much I'm over Kelsie. I'm over Kelsied at the moment.

So he's not in your cracker top five.

He's not in my cracker top five. It's beautiful crackers. Yeah. I'm going to keep thinking as we go along, I'll name some more. Okay, I like that.

Who are your niggas of the day? Your top five niggas.

Let's don't put it like that if we can. Okay? Because I can't. Well, let me think.

Some great-Not ever ignorant, getting goals accomplished.

Come on. Gang, gang, gang, baby. Let me think. Come on. Well, let's go through some of the criteria.

First of all, what is the criteria?

Because you have cracker of the day. What's the criteria to become a cracker of the day.

You just got to get cracker energy. You know what I mean? You feeling like a boss. Are you doing something? You did something that was... Everybody loved their crackers. What's your favorite crackers, anyway?

Yeah.

What crackers you eat it in watching?

What's your favorite snack? It's a straight up that saltine that came.

Nice.

I think it just said crackers on the box right there. There's a cracker of the day right there, a young white fellow with a joint.

There you go.

There you go. These are some good crackers right there. Oh, that's Travis. Yeah.

You know, Kraver is acting like your guy. He got the gun with the floor to swag. He was looking at as your boy like, he look a little awkward right there.

But he got that Draco on him, baby. He pulling up. Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence. Yeah.

That's a $20 million quarterback right there. Is he really? Yeah, for the Jaguars holding the scrap in Florida. You're looking like he know Yack. But you got to have that in Florida. You're looking like he know the sniper game standing like that.

That's swag though, right? In Florida, yeah.

That's that Florida swag right there.

You got to have that. That's a Florida First certificate. Being a cracker of the day is just being a cracker that is- That's showing up.

Exemplify confidence, boss-like energy, and that give people that happiness. What do you see when you see Trevor Lawrence posted up with a Florida gator's top? Looking like a teenager holding the scrap like he's in Florida understanding the culture and the energy of what's going around.

I said, you know what? Let's give him one more year. Give him one more year. That's what I said. You know what I'm saying? Let's resign him for another year. That's what I said. Yeah, he's coming back.

Yeah, let's lock him in.

That's what I say. That's what it gave me.

This guy right here, he under major pressure. Zane Gonsales. He got to win the game for these guys. This is the cracker of your type energy. He fixed his hair. Ain't none of your head. It's none of your head, Zane. But he got that cracker energy like he's ready to have that pressure. He understand in this moment, it's a big moment, and he's getting his fucking hair fixed.

That's crack of the day.

That's crack of the day, bro. That's it, right? That's it, right?

No, that's no ER, bro. That's crack.

Yo, he got the game on the line, and he's going to get the shit done. He's fucking scratching your ass right now. He fucking fending out the fade.

He says, Look, let me make sure my fade so I don't fade this ball, man. That's what he's thinking.

He's like, Shave the pressure on me. All these fucking Black guys couldn't win the fucking game.

That's a good point, bro. All these dickheads. Every time the white, the kicker goes in, the truth should be all these Black guys couldn't win the game. All these fucking guys couldn't do it? And they're trying to act like now it's hard to be.

And not a pressure on me. And he bought this shit, bricks. Look at him. Yo, best play. Look at Zane fisting his face. One top. Back it up. Let's see how many times he fix this shit. He fix this shit like 20 times. Fix your hair.

Can we get the count?

And he's two for two.

He's two for two right there.

And he's still fucking rubbing his head. But he's understanding the moment.

He's getting this shit, right? He went overtime right there. He did overtime at the end. But you got to look good for your moment, too.

No, but he looked like his ass is tight right now. Look at little Trump Jr.

What about him? Now, how does the community feel about him?

That kid looks like he's the next fucking That kid look like he's the next fucking President and fucking assassin.

He the young done.

No, he's just like a young Trump. His body language, his face you moving. It's like he got a subtle confidence. He know something we don't know. He look like one of them alfalfa kids, just a kid.

Okay.

Yeah, he got it figured out. I respect.

He doesn't put himself out there. He doesn't try to do too much. No, he's a boss.

He's real low key. He got the mannerism of he already got it figured out. He's one of those special, beautiful crackers. You go to him when you got a problem. He just make the problem solution. Yeah, he changed it. Right there, he look like he ready to change the tie. He's his Trump son. He's a younger Trump. The amazing thing Trump have done. You know I got on this shirt today, my husband.

I didn't even see that, man.

Yeah, shout out to Trump.

Yeah.

Thank you for telling me. Give me the shout-outs, too.

I didn't realize that they did that they Yeah. At that point, after all of the things, man, a lot of people got on Trump. A lot of convicts, inmates, people that have ever been accused of crimes a million times that didn't trust the justice system. They all got on his side.

Because they knew Trump understand what it felt like Right.

Now he knows what it feels like.

The bill like a nigger. Trump showed the world what it was. And he freed some of my guys. Did he? Sniper Game. Shout out to Kodak Black. You know Kodak Black?

Yeah, Kodak.

Kb. Kb, Kodak Black.

I was in pills with It's Antonio Brown. It seemed like he was even seeming like he's been going through it.

No, listen. Hold on. Let's get this clear. Any time a Black guy is being judged or misunderstood or call that Black because it's a genius. Hold on.

Oh, I agree with that.

Why do when a Black guy is representing culture and representing something that you may not understand, they just be like, Oh, he on drugs. It seem like every Black rapper who become really well, he's associated with drugs.

You think so?

Future. What did everybody know a future of her? Percaset, Molly Percaset. But that's what everybody, that's where people were singing.

Yeah.

All of a sudden, Kodak Black get his life together doing billion-dollar businesses, opening up stuff right here locally in Florida, signing artists, getting other people opportunity to live. He's a million-dollar rapper. He's not just some drug alley guy. He fucking got big businesses. He got a team and houses.

He's a real business. A real business. No doubt. A real But I think you're right. I'm definitely judging just off a video clip that I see and stuff like that.

You see a nappy hair guy with goals.

No, I don't see the nappy hair and goals. That's not the part of the judgment. Some of it is some of his behaviors and mannerisms make me think.

Okay, what's the behavior?

Just some of the things where he's fading in and out of consciousness.

That's a part of being an artist.

It could be.

He's still in his artistry.

You're right.

That's what big people draw to him. He's an artist, but you just can't throw him to the side. Not every time he's doing something cool or if he's doing the lazy Oh, he do the crazy.

He got that definitely. He got like-He got a different desk. He got different dance.

He got the bop.

He got the slack. It's almost like a redesign of Bobby Schmert. You know what I'm saying? A totally different-No, he's He's like the African.

He's like the Haiti king, man.

I didn't even think of him being Haitian. Is he Haitian? Of course.

You know what it's like to be in Haiti? Oh my God, I didn't know that. Haiti don't got water all night like America.

Really?

Bro, in Haiti, you got to hang your clothes when you wash them on the line. Tv, if you go around the front of the house, your brother wearing your draws. You stand the whole neighborhood wearing your clothes. Your clothes gone. You don't fucking wait with this clothes?

You fucking stand right by there and watch the bitches drop.

You better stand and watch the bitches drop because your clothes, your boxers is wearing by your brother. It's Haiti. They're not getting close.

You're right, man.

Bro, it's a different life. So before you quick to write off people.

I didn't write them off. You're saying jump to conclusions.

I'm not saying you.

I'm not saying they. But I'm part of that. You're right, jump into conclusions, right?

Because sometimes we all do it. I see a clip and jump the conclusion. We all are guilty. I'm not saying it's you. It's us as humans.

As a culture. As humans. Just as humans, yeah.

As humans because we all get the same hours. We all feel the same emotions. We all go through the same things. We just got to know how to be better people because they pre-emanate a better world. We work together better and we get to know each other better, we could do better things because all we are here together, we all need each other. No matter what you got or what we got, we all got to go to work together to make Something's going to make something work.

Yeah.

That's what we call the ecosystem.

Economy.

Economy. You ain't know. I knew this shit.

I knew you knew it. I knew you knew it, man.

Yeah, but that's what we're trying to do. We're trying to bridge together the racism to bring more people together so it's not a default of having your guy in prison because someone... Because, bro, being placed in a position can make you feel away. Imagine your guy who you love, you put in your top fire crackers, not because of what he got, not because of what he doing, because of what his heart is like and what position he was put in and that position that was put in emanated his behavior because he felt like shit, everybody gave up on me. And that is not a colored thing. That's a human thing. That's a human thing. Anybody who put it under the circumstance of everybody saying, Fuck you, eventually you're going to say, Fuck you.

You know what I mean? Well, it's so funny. I think that's one of the... I think when I was young, I did. I could sometimes... I don't even know if this is racist to say, man, but I'm going to say it. Say that shit.

Get it off your chest, bro.

Hold on.

We all from different ways of the world.

Sometimes I would look at... Sometimes I would see Black people or other Black kids and stuff, and I would be like, I don't know what their life was like, but it'd be like, I feel the same way they do. There's a little part of me-It's a connection, bro. That has the same feeling. I just felt like the world hated me so much.

Because you're different, bro. You come from Louisiana, your country, looking at your haircut, the way you talk.

Yeah, I don't know what it was. Just whatever it was, there was something inside of me that fucking was like...

You felt like you were a different guy, bro. You got a creativity to give to the world, bro. You got a connection.

But sometimes there was this little part of me that felt like I could mildly-Relate, bro. Relate, mildly. I'm not saying I don't know what it's like to be like somebody's life. I'm not trying to keep interrupting. I just want to be clear. I'm not trying to- God, respect.

I'm here with you. I know you're a good guy, man.

It's gang time. So the cracker of the day. It's just the bregan, bridge the gap between people loving each other.

Because, bro, say some of the words that cracker's made up. We all got different legal and we all like it. You know what I mean?

But you got to watch people's intention, though, too. That's a huge thing.

No, but that's what I'm saying. The ex, Elon Musk gave us an opportunity on X out to speak freely and positively bring people together. Imagine, I started cracker of the day to bring positivity to people.

It is fun. It's fun. People send them all the time. I look at that cracker of the day.

Everywhere I go, they're like, Hey, can you make me the cracker? Because this energy, the world is making people feel better. No matter who you are, people just want to feel good and live a good life. We all know one thing in the world, We're going to pay taxes and die.

In the meantime.

In the meantime, let's just live a good life, man, because we don't know when the day is going to happen. Let's just build each other, bro. I got Black babe moms, White babe moms. I love all people. Everyone should love each other, and we should.

Well, We ain't no shit. We're just having a tough time doing it.

That's the problem. Not because that's why we need more people like you, bridging the gap, talking about the stuff that's uncomfortable, making awareness. You should bring a Black guy up here who going through some shit and speak to a guy, bring awareness, raise awareness so people know you know what's going on. We can't change the rules that isn't aware of the world, but we can allow people to know we're aware of what's going on, and we could be a part of the thing that make people feel good.

Yeah, let us least-Do I do diligence? But also, but just to show each other that we're aware.

I ain't saying you owe me, but act like you know me. Don't act like you don't know what we're facing because that's what people were. If people knew other people was aware and they was encouraging more people Now your friend who in that situation, he'll make a better decision because he'll understand when he's feeling this trauma. Like, it's okay to be how you... It's okay to feel how you feel. That's the freedom of the world.

You don't have to hide your feelings.

You don't have to hide who you want to be or who you That's right. If people misjudge you, then that's on them. That's why we raise awareness to bring people with that misjudgment to make those people feel good while they're going through their trauma because we all face some trauma.

Because we all face some trauma. Humor does it the most because it's that one, you're like, okay. I could get through.

I know what they mean.

It's okay to connect these two things. It's okay. It's funny.

Exactly.

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Now, someone said that the prize for the cracker of the year was Shane Gillis.

Shane Gillis?

Shane Gillis was what? Cracker of the Year?

He was the funiest cracker of the year.

Funiest cracker of the year. I agree. Very funny man. And the funiest cracker of the year. I agree. He got my vote. Now, my question is, there was said that there was a prize where whoever won it got to say the N word one time. Is that true or not? I heard that. Yes. Okay.

I feel like everybody in their life have said the Nigger, the word. You said it, rapping a song. It's a party, bro. Everyone said it. Even Tom braided one time told me, Man, my son was asking me about it because it's the curious thing. It's like you put power on the word. Don't say that. But words could mean whatever you want them to mean. It's all about how you take it, interpreting within yourself. Oh, yeah. If you say I'm your favorite nigga. It's like, yeah, I'm your favorite You know what I'm saying? If I say you're my nigga, that means you're my guy. You're my brother.

If somebody says it to me, if a black fellow says that to me, I feel pretty good for that.

You're my nigga. I fuck with you. We genuinely have a bond that I care about you.

I feel like, okay. You know what I'm saying? I was doing. I'm going to buy some fucking J's. I'm ready to do this. Why don't black people lease the N-word out to be said at a certain event or something? I think there could be a lot of money in that. Is that crazy to say that?

I I feel like just how you use it.

Sometimes-oh, I agree. I don't mean using it in a derogatory way, but say, tonight they had Angelina Jolie was paying 50 bands to say it on a live stream. That'd be cool.

Because you would want to see how she said it.

That's the thing. Because she said it like she had slaves.

She said it. Because I might be fucking a white girl and be like, Yo, call me a nigger.

Damn, who are these people?

You don't like that?

I have no idea if I like it or not. But I just think it's like-It's I'm going to get it. Okay.

You know what I mean? It's exciting. It's just like, it's fucking...

And will they do it sometimes? Yeah. No way.

Why wouldn't they? I'll smack them on the head.

I don't know. I didn't know they're doing all that. So I guess if somebody's fucking you, you can say it. That's crazy.

How many times you said the word nigga just like, rapping the song or?

Probably just a couple hundred times, though, I bet.

That's what I'm saying. It's a part of the words, and we don't have to hide our feelings as people saying stuff to be an anormacy.

When it goes against what's an anormacy, but I think it's... Obviously, you want it out of people that are using it in a derogatory way.

I feel like when people get mad, any way, they're going to use it in a derogatory way because that's what they were I thought to give off negative energy. You know what I'm saying?

I used it one time. There was a black cat or whatever was crossing my path or something, and I was furious.

What you said, Look at this, nigga. Say that shit. Let me how you said it. Say that shit, Theo. I'm saying it, dude. Right now, say that shit.

It was around Halloween.

All right, let me hear how you say that shit. Let me hear how you say that.

I cannot, bro. I can't say it.

Why you can't say it?

Bro, because it's not going to end well, I don't think.

Why would it not end well? It's the end word, bro. Vocabulary.

We have to bleep it out, don't we?

No, don't bleep it out, bro. Just start with just like, No, I can't listen. Just be like, A, B, you're my favorite nigga.

All right, A, B, you're my favorite nigga.

All right, perfect.

Wow. Why did we say it, man? I can't be saying that shit. That's what I'm saying, bro. I don't want to say it anymore.

Never. What do you mean never ignorant? I don't want to say it anymore. Never ignorant, getting goals accomplished. It's all about what the acronym stand for, bro. Words can mean whatever you want to be mean.

But you can't be running. I can't be out at the mall or something saying it, and I'm trying to stop somebody, be like, Hey, here's the acronym. That's the thing.

I don't want to say it anymore. When people know you from... You grew up with Black people all your life.

Yeah, but I just don't want to say it anymore, man. How about this? Let me think about this.

No, because think about it. We got to change, reverse racism. That's what the The tracker today is about to make the comfortability because you don't have to hide some of your...

But you could say, You my G, you my champ.

You my dog. Oh, and nothing wrong with calling me your favorite nigger. It's not a bad thing because, again, what?

In 50 years, people will look back and think that this is an important conversation, I think.

Of course, this is an important conversation because we're educating each other and we're bridging the gap of racism.

We should not be doing that, dude. You and me, dude.

This is where we at. This is where we at in life, bro.

This is true. This is where we are. You're right. This is where we are, bro.

There's a reason we're here right now. This is where we are, bro. That's why Trump, the President. That's why Trump went through all that stuff. Being assassinated. That's a Black person thing. Going through the court system. Every day. And he's showing that it's bullshit because he's showing that- Bro, he was at court, left court, only to try to be assassinated.

They had to go back to court.

That's fucking being like Martin Luther King, fucking Malcolm X, all these fucking Black guys in history that we just went over. Cracker of the Year, bro. Look at that motherfucker right there, bro. To show all Black people that he understand what it takes to be a nigger.

Gang, gang, bro.

Sassionated. Courtism. It's like, come on, he free, he free. Third wife.

Third wife, tall son. That's Black stuff.

Of course, he got baby moms. I don't hear about his child support.

It's heavy, dude. But I'm saying this, though. You don't think, say, if Angelina Jolie was going to rattle off an N-word at 7: 30 tonight, right? And the Black community sold it on a live stream, right?

People could log on and pay to watch it. They're going to love that because know what they're going to like? They're going to know Angelina love Black culture. She could say, Nigger.

Right. But also then that money- And not hide it.

When you could be a realist and be truthful of who you are and not hide who you is because that's when you're being fake. What's being fake, TV? Hiding who you is. So if you already send it to yourself at Halloween, why are you going to say it with your brother? I'm your nigga. I'm one of your niggas.

I just don't want to say it anymore.

You got to feel like a man when you say this shit, bro. You already sent it. Don't be fake because that's the culture.

I'm not going to fake it now. I just don't like it.

Because that's faking it when you sent it in secret and you're not able to say it around your peoples. That's why I'm making cracker of the year, the normacy. You're my favorite cracker. These are my favorite crackers because these are my guys. These are my brothers. These are the gang, gang. These are the people I count on and look up to. These are the people who run in the world and putting me in position.

Well, That's funny because you really came into this position. I got a text from Rogan yesterday, last night. Middle of the night. I don't know. He's the human owl, bro.

He's the fucking smart genius. One of the fucking crackers of the year, He was beautiful. Was he?

I didn't know he was cracker of the year. Rogan wants some shit, too. He was nominated?

He won. What do you mean?

I didn't know he won. I thought you only gave one award.

We had a lot of awards. We had like 12 awards. You did? Yeah.

Bro, I love what you're doing, though, because it's so-We're reversing racism, I love it.

I love it. We are human.

It's new.

Anytime this is like the Kodat Black thing, and I go back to one of my friends, Kodat Black, Tony O'Brown, KBAV. The guy move artistry, now they think he on drugs. Why he got on drugs? This guy just got a nice bop to That's stuff that sell his music. The guy write his own rimes. I've seen him in the closet. He fucking write the rimes, come back and put them. It's like fucking genius. Genius level. Kid been through so much adversity, never gave up. Sniper Game. It's not to kill people. It's to see the goal and hit it.

Gang, dude, how do you get in that?

Is there-Sniper Game, Kodak Black. I'm going to tell him you want to be in it. That's his club? It's his game. It's his gang. That's my brother. I got wanted to change.

No, I love Kodak, man. I don't think anybody like him. But you're right. I jumped to the inclusions and thought he was I think he reminds me of Lil Wayne in a way, bro.

He's like that because think about it, we grew up with this kid for... He's came up with this decade in rap and hits, records, and while going through Adversity, Lil Wayne went through Adversity. He was with the Hot Boys, went by Self was the only guy with cash money and fucking turned genius while going through adversity. Went to prison, came back. Kodak Black went through the same fucking shit and still on top of the game and music and created a screen, our screen.

And unique, but to come through all of that The perseverance.

Fucking shout out to Donald Trump, man, for free. I love that Black man. From Haiti. If your clothes are off the line, your clothes gone, man.

That's it, baby. If your clothes ain't off the line, your clothes gone, bro.

Imagine what it's like. It's not water all night. It's not America, man. You ain't got water all night.

You got water all night, motherfucker.

Imagine that. Rich. You're coming back over here with little clothes, man. You ain't got no clothes.

Your shit shrunk.

You got nothing.

What if a big dude borrow your shit in the next day you got to wear it again?

Nothing, man. No clothes out there. It's bad. It was like, yo, man, we got to continue to bridge the gap with people who don't understand and make the uncomfortable comfortable. Respect. You know what I mean? I feel like we got the power to do that. We got the voice and people, and we already doing it. If you already saying the word nigga, then it should be comfortable when you see one of your favorite niggas, they be like, yo.

What's up, my buddy?

I'm your favorite nigga.

I think there could be a date.

I feel like you got to get the comfortability, the growing it.

I can't practice that out in the wild, man.

You got to practice it with me. I'm your Black friend. You're going to need to practice it with your Black friend.

Okay. Yeah. I could.

You got to practice it with your... Yeah. Just call me We have niggerisms. I'll call you for crackerisms. Okay, hold on. We'll just break bread. You feel me? What do you say if you didn't have no breakfast waking up as a Black guy. Fuck, we just eat a bag of chips. If you didn't have no food as a Black guy, you're like, Yo, mom, we don't have breakfast? Mom, you know what I'm saying? But we're breaking bread with just culture of things because that's what I'm saying. Culture create the economy. You know what I mean? We created a diverse culture where we could talk about the uncomfortable. You've seen Kanye West, one of my close friends, talk about the uncomfortable and give people on his ass. The only thing he was doing was speaking the truth of an uncomfortable. He wasn't trying to bring nobody down. He just said something that made people uncomfortable. But as humans, let's practice more with-Saying stuff that makes people uncomfortable. No, let's make the uncomfortable comfortable. Let's not make people uncomfortable. Let's work towards bridging racism to make everyone, man, it's okay if a white person, I like a black.

Cold-out black want to be cold at white sometimes. Sometimes he want to be a white boy. He want to act like a white boy. Let him act like a white boy sometime because guess what? Michael Jackson wanted Michael Jackson wanted to be a white boy. He turned white.

And an Asian woman. He wanted to be everything.

Michael Jackson bleached his skin to turn into a white guy.

I had to wonder what was going on inside of him, man.

Of course, because he figured it out. Man, maybe it's a little better if I look like them because they're in position.

Maybe somebody will care about me if I look like this or something.

No, they'll make me the biggest artist ever because now it'll look more better. You think? I mean, if a black guy ran the world, who do you think he'll put in position?

You know what? That's a good point. If Michael Jackson didn't look like he looked, do you think he would have been the same success of artist? Might be right. Might not have.

You know who?

Who knows? Might not have. Not in a bad way or anything, but just no judgment, which is a fact, he might not have. He was a black kid singing in groups.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He turned white and went- He could shake Exactly. When they're talking like that as a white guy, I was like, That's different.

That's interesting, man. What was I thinking about? What were you just talking about?

Michael Jackson was alive. He'll ask me to smoke one for him.

Did he smoke a lot of pot or not, Michael Jackson? Bring it up.

You know, Michael Jackson was really like how they portrayed him to the world was different how he really was.

Well, I heard he really liked women. That's what I've heard.

He used to call women fish. Yeah, good fish. Bring Yeah. He give a woman a hug. Yeah, you could do more than hug me.

And they never showed that side of him.

They never ever will because they don't need to. We need to show him in a real submissive. He don't need to be a Black guy dominant with his dick on the table.

That's the thing, how media can change so much the perception, but they can't do that as much anymore.

Because now we got the X off. Thank for Elon Musk.

I will say that, man. That is one thing I felt like it was something where, yeah, wow, you could say anything you want over here.

Because maybe me and you could get on the X app and be like, All right, TV and A. B. Are talking crackerism and niggerism. Yo, TV, if you go to a Black party, how I got a Black Party. You should probably show up, you'd probably show up a hour late. Hour late? Yeah, and bring some food.

A couple of babes with me, too.

Of course, bring in the hearties. We need decoration. You know a decoration?

Shit, that look good. Bottles in the club. Yeah. You feel me? Maybe because I'm a thug. Right when I walk in, put on Trick Daddy, bro. I'll fucking stand on the porch, though.

You know what I'm saying?

If you don't put on Trick Daddy, I ain't fucking coming in.

It's a thug holiday. It's a thug holiday.

All day, every day. Rip, trick, man.

Rip, trick. Trick still alive, man. Oh, yes, damn, bro. You crazy. You got to come to Miami, man. I didn't know he's down there. That's why we got... Of course, Trick got his Sofu restaurant. He cook.

Of course, he got me.

He got me crazy with his box. See, me and you, we just talk niggerism and crackerism because I feel like you got to-I don't know how many times we can say that on here, man. What is wrong with that?

They'll stop us, bro. They don't want us communicating like this. You think they do?

Who is they? Good question. We don't We don't know who's they. But they out there. But we got to do what God called us to do.

Is to communicate.

That's all we doing, having a conversation. We're not saying that a conversation could have changed anything. We're just open in the minds of people who getting uncomfortable so they could get to know two guys from across from the world from two different could bridge the gap of being comfortable to talk about how to see it from both sides.

Yeah, thanks, man. You know what? Because I think there's not a lot of times where it's like, you feel if you're talking to a Black person or a Black guy where I feel like, can we try to just be completely real about what we're thinking or what our thoughts have been or what our real questions are? Exactly. All of that.

Put that shit on the I was on the table.

Dude, I remember the first time I ever... I was doing high school sports or something. I was lifting weights, and a Black friend of mine spotted me. He was spotting me. That was the first time I remember a Black guy. I'd I never even touched a hand. A Black guy hand? Touched my hand. Yeah, we were spotting each other. But I would just remember it. You know what I'm saying?

Thinking about it consciously. Like, damn, I never had just...

It was the same time when I went into the Black doctor's. I just had never had like, would it? Like, okay, let's do it.

That's why we should talk about niggerism and crackerism, because now it's like, damn, for a person who never had that experience, they could tune in and hear me and you talk from both sides of a culture and people could dive in and be like, damn, that's pretty cool. It's like that. I understand that now. Now, if a person be able to go to a Black party, they might have the Q&A's, and they had a Black friend. So we're like, oh, shit. I was in the TV, A. B. In the space, and A. B. Was telling the TV, you go to a Black party, what's the That's what culture is. It is like, okay. And TV was telling A. B. About how crackerism, if I was to go to a white party-Different things.

Yeah. Different conversations. Yeah, I think we just have to change the name and take the N word out of the name. That's going to be heavy for people. Because you can't have somebody talking to a friend and like, What are you doing tonight? They're like, I'm going to this.

I'm listening in. Niggerism.

Right. But if somebody hears that, it's just not going to end well for people, I think. It's going to be a lot.

No, I think we just got to promote it, a bridge in the culture. No, I love the Virgin Cultures.

I don't know, dude. No, I love the culture part.

Because everybody's saying it. Like you said, you said it a hundred times under your breath. So it's like...

No, I've said it, I've sang it. I meant in music.

Of course. That's what I'm saying. It's a part of us in music as a culture of people. If you already said something- Yeah, there's been people have said it, I know.

Some people in our area used to write it and put it in a piece of paper, and then they would put it in a bottle, like a message in a bottle, and they throw it out in a river or somewhere.

Because I feel like the word has been given so much power through generations of people.

But it hurt a lot of people so much.

No, I feel like it only hurt you if you allow it. Things in life only give if you give it power to it. If you're giving it power, like, Oh, man, I don't want to say it, but I'm saying it so you're giving it It's like the Boogie man. It's like, All right, you could go see if he come, but it's not real. But if you're acting like, damn, the Boogie man might come. It's like you're getting that emotion in yourself. But it's like...

Yeah.

As people, we already... The biracial inter-racial It's all growing.

It's picking up speed. Oh, it's going to be beige. I say all the time in three generations, everything going to be beige. It's going to be a mix. It's going to be a complete mix, man, especially at the rate that a lot of- Every white family got some Black dick in their family.

How many Black people you got in your family? One dick, two dicks? How many people you got? Let me think.

I mean, I definitely- There's always some Black in a white family. We all mix. Oh, yeah. My cousin is definitely- That's what I mean.

You got Black in you, so you can't act like you're not dealing with Black people on a day-to-day, yearly basis. You They were sports with Black people, so you've seen the mannerisms.

Yeah, I think it was a lot more like growing up for sure. Of course. If I was at home, probably would still be the same way.

Exactly. You grew up with that culture already.

But if we get out, I don't know if we can be out there. What do you guys think, nick? Is that a realistic program to start or that sounds crazy?

I think it could work. Why not?

Well, I disagree with you guys.

Why do you think Elon Musk bought the X app from Twitter?

Not by saying the N-word.

To give people the amendment back for freedom of speech.

Now, that's a good point.

If we don't talk about the uncomfortable, how when you have an interracial baby and my interracial baby go to his white side of his family house. Because he got to learn that. He got to understand that because that's some thought he going to have in his head, just like your friend. And now they're going to be like, damn, you mixed baby, but I want you to act white. And then it's like, what if he wearing a jersey like your friend? Now they're like, he fucking don't even want to be like us. We're going to put him in a fucking LD culture Now he doing something to ruin his life because somebody made him feel like no one loved them. So he did something wrong out of spite because no one loved them. That's what he felt. You know what I'm saying? So we could save.

But he was cold on the court, though. I know that.

We could have saved him to make him feel like, you're not weird, you're not a dickhead, or you're not an oddball, man. You're special. You got energy because you got passion towards something that a lot of people don't. So let's use this energy to the right way so you don't put yourself in a position where you wanted it, you can't be around your close friend Theo now. You know what I mean? You can enjoy their life. You know what I mean? So it's like, let's not be quick to shut down on the things that people doing that we already come from.

Because think about this, A. B. If you had win When people who said something that was crazy, at first people said, that guy is crazy. People said, that motherfucker is crazy. Write them off, kick them to the climate. Write them off, right? Even if you look at Robert Kennedy Jr. I don't care if you like Bobby Kennedy or not. He was a friend of mine before I knew that he was going to run for politics. We were friends. I saw him as a reliable, honest friend. Then he started running for politics, and he was talking about the vaccine and shit. And people said, he's fucking crazy, right? I mean, people that knew him, mutual friends, he's crazy. And then he made it all. He made it past I'm crazy to getting half of the people to believe him.

Well, that's a part of the journey.

But that's how everybody's done that. Everybody Nobody who ever said anything that was important started off by saying it was not considered a value.

It was uncomfortable.

It was uncomfortable. That's what I'm saying.

Kanye West, you've seen what his financial statement say?

How's he doing?

2. 7 billion. Pull up Kanye. Pull up, yay.

Pull him up, man. Have you seen him recently?

Yeah, he's in China right now. He live out in China.

Oh, wow.

Yeah. Pull up Ye. Look, what did he say the network is?

What's the network on him. In 2025, Ye's network staying at 2. 7 7-7 Billy.

Yes.

That's confirmed by Eitan Venture Services based on his music portfolio and his sole ownership of the EZ Mar.

Kanye West, the only black guy ever gave me $2 million.

He gave you $2 million?

$2 million.

For what? What were you all doing? How That's Donda, right? Yeah.

Just like, Yo, A. B, how much money? Then he was like, Yo, how much money you want from me?

To pull up in a support?

No, just like the run of brands. Just like, Yo.

Is that Donda, what you're wearing right now?

Just Coda, black right now. Coda, I got my Donda piece, but this Coda, it's my new SG chain I just got I got Kodak. But yeah. Wow, that's cool. I got the Donda piece. I got that in the new chain. Did he make it himself? Yeah, he had Icebox make it. Wow. Yeah. So you can think about a guy like that, he said something that was uncomfortable, remember? And what they called him?

They They called them up.

They wrote them up. They did them just like they did your friend.

The media cooked him.

But guess what? I feel like Black people were so used to being cooked and during the cook that you just... You know what I'm saying? It's a part of the history of being You just got to be cooked.

It's on the grill, bitch. Let's see. Let's cook. Let's see what happens when things heat up. Yeah. Let's see what happens when things heat up.

Exactly. So you just overcome the pressure a little bit more. You know what I'm saying? A little bit more with diamonds, you overcome the pressure because you're used to the pressure. You know what I'm saying? People said Kanye was crazy. He take a Alexa Pro. He take this. He on drugs. He had problems with it. He's going crazy about his kids. It's like, no, we're raising emphasis on how our family's art, boy. It is. Kanye believe in marriage. You believe in, you feel me, business Which is a pioneered culture.

When I see you, I have Black friends now that have children in their households are way different than the households of my friends that were Black when I was a kid.

It's a different-Not in poverty.

They're not in poverty. It's like, oh, wow. It's more of like, yeah, it's crazy.

But you've seen Trump just go through it a little bit. Assassination, court system. Everything. Public news, shame.

And that bronze, I'm surprised he didn't go full dark on that bronze in one day and just pull up.

It just go crazy. He's a president. He could hit a button, wipe everyone out. He handled it with class, just like all the Black guys.

He showed up.

He didn't run from it. He didn't take himself out. He didn't crash out. He didn't give in.

Well, he went to China, but maybe he just didn't... He liked being there better.

He got a new wife, man. He's happy. He don't want to deal with it.

At a certain point, I don't want to deal with it. Especially at a certain point, the media-I want to be happy. The media, every time he turned around, it's almost like they're trying to make you crazy. Bring them down.

They're trying to bring you down. We just seen the guys rave 2. 7 billion. We should be throwing pet rallies. We should be throwing freaking niggerism parties for Kanye West. A guy that broke his jar in a fucking crash. The guy that gave so many people opportunities, making beats, producing to turn rapper, to sign in people and giving and giving and giving to just be constant broke down.

Well, I think I do find it interesting in an entertainment that I feel like all the Black artists should be represented by Black agents and managers. That's one thing I feel like I don't see a lot. But then also, what do I know about anything? You got a Black guy-Is that crazy to say that, you think?

No, I feel like you should have the guy that's going to get you the best opportunity that's going to rep the brand and make you feel comfortable.

Because think about it- It doesn't have to be a Black guy, huh?

It doesn't matter who it is. It could be a Purple guy, pink guy. As long as you get your well-being, what do you go and get the deal? Most of the times, they're going to talk to a White guy who's working for the company that go give you the money. So it's rather be a guy who look like him, the broker of the deal, it'll be probably easier for him to talk to him. Yeah. Right or wrong?

Yeah, you're right.

Because who's the guy in the NFL who own the team? White guy.

Exactly. Every team, huh?

Every team. Wow. Exactly. So who also own the networks that you speak We're representing.

Different. Select people.

You know what I'm saying? Select the people.

Select people. Certain people.

Certain people. But the majority in life, you did this do what's right to benefit you. It's not. You got to get something that life manages do with the people that's going to be genuine and got your back no matter what color it is.

Oh, yeah, man. I talked to my friend Stan the other day. He's my closest Black friend, man. We have some real important conversations sometimes where you just feel like unconditional support from my friend no matter what. Exactly. I know you call your channel C-T-E-S-P-N. Yes. Is Who came up with that? Was it you?

Yeah, it was me because I feel like people wrote me off when I walked off the field like, he crazy.

Yeah, a lot of people thought he was crazy. Then a lot of other people took their shirts off and left their jobs. You ever see all those videos?

I didn't see it. It was a trendy video?

They had like 30 videos.

Listen, I'm not a Sure, now. Just don't give up your fucking day job. I build up a lot of wealth to fucking sit on when I left out.

When I left, I was getting into a Lamborghini, so that's a little different.

It was a different leave out.

But did you have an actual Did you have CT, you think? Did you ever feel it?

No, I feel like CT is a trauma when the NFL just... Being a football player, you got to go through trauma, but it's like you prepare your body to endure the trauma. I lift weights, physical therapy, mental therapy. I manifest the goal. You know what I'm saying? You do all the mental clarity things that you got to do to be welled off. You know what I mean? Take therapy, do all the well-being things you need to do to be a functional human. A family, a golly man, spiritual. I feel like when people don't understand you or just why we make them lead a field for millions of dollars, that's what they try to say with football players. But CTE is a real thing that they determine when people pass away. It's been a lot of football players that died over the course of years that they just write them off like they had CTE. But we all have trauma, and CTE is a trauma that we all endure. Like you said, how you grew up dealing with trauma. Life is a trauma. Yeah. Life is not perfect for nobody. Jesus walked the Earth and he was the only one living life perfectly, but his life was involved in traumas.

They killed him in his Earth as an example.

That's a good point, man. Life is a lot of traumas.

Life is all trauma, bro. Sometimes your fucking back hurt, your knee hurt, you sore. But that's what life's about. Our bodies is not going to last forever. Your mind is not going to last forever. We all got a due date to die. So when you think about life in the aspect of the reality, it's like, yo, I'm not crazy. I just walked off to put myself in a better opportunity. You just may not understand it and just thought it was crazy because you put yourself in my shoes.

Oh, fuck. I've left work early many times, baby.

You know what I'm saying? My job was on TV and now they're making on the news. It just It's going to be one of them days. But as a normal human, we all had these days. This is normal shit. You got to love your job. You feel me?

We leave it early.

No bullshit. So it's just like, man.

That's it, dude. So you never got actually diagnosed though, in CTE?

No, man, people can't even diagnose CTE. That's why I started CTSPN to talk to people about their traumas and how they deal with their traumas and cope with their traumas, overcoming adversity. Because I feel like being a great football or being a great person in any form of life, you had to endure a lot of adversity. Tell me some of the things that you went through as a kid, how you were raised. You told me one of your traumas. You said, Man, I always felt like a connection with a Black person. You know what I'm saying? That was probably a trauma because that's something as a kid, you may had to hold it.

I felt unseen. That's what I felt like. I felt like nobody saw me. I think that that was something. Sometimes I could, when I would see how maybe black people were looked at or treated sometimes or some of just how they even treated themselves sometimes, I would notice just little things sometimes. As I became an adult, I could relate to little things. I'm not saying I could relate to any of their history, anything like that. But I'm just saying there were little things I could relate to. Now I can see why I gravitated towards some of these kids because I didn't feel seen. I didn't feel like anybody saw me. If they did see me, I felt like they thought I was fucking nothing. There were little things like that sometimes that I don't think about. I don't know. I'm not trying to make the black culture about me, though.

No, but listen, but that's why I started CTSB in so people could talk through their traumas, cope with their traumas, understand how to deal with it, because I had to learn how to deal with my traumas to put myself together and be able to be in a position I'm in. Because that's a part of life. Life's about how you How you overcome adversity, how you deal with adversity, and how you overcome your situation. I'm sure you've been through a lot in your life. That's why I started CTSB in to show high-level athletes and high-level people. What are the things that made them great? What are the things they had to go through? Because we all went through some. You could have been raised with one parent. Maybe you just never seen your dad. Maybe you were just artistic. You liked the computer, you never played outside. You may have been raised with a sick sibling.

You may have been raised.

But everybody got That's some type of trauma they're facing. Maybe you're not tall enough and you can't pursue that dream you want. It could be any little thing as a human that we're facing, and we all face some trauma. So that's why I started CTSBing so I could talk to people from their traumas. What's your adversity? How are you overcoming? What was the bridge point? Okay, how do you get through that? People could see when they're watching the video of, okay, I'm talking to Theovon. Okay, how the fuck Theovon overcame that situation? How did he get in that position? Because I feel like- Because is it a weekly show, T-S-P-N? I feel like I need to do more weekly. I feel like I just be usually- I see what you're saying. Randomly talking to people about their traumas when I see. You know what I mean? It's strange because sometimes it's a lot to talk to people about their traumas because a lot of people hide their traumas. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? A lot of people are not like them.

You become ashamed of them, becomes like this.

Of course. But it's like, we can't be ashamed of the uncomfortable because that's the only way we get better is to dress the uncomfortable. Then the mental health facility, the therapist. You've been all that? Yeah, because that's a part of recovering and getting a load of your better self.

When you had to go to a mental health facility, how long you had to go for?

Just, yeah.

Six weeks? Two weeks. That ain't too bad. Was it nice in there or not?

Yeah. It's in Colorado. Colorado Springs right there. Psychological, you get to thinking. Man, life's about looking at your life.

It's not the Lodge. It's called the Lodge. The Lodge, exactly. That's where you went? Exactly. Yeah, it's nice there.

It's beautiful, bro. It's a whole facility, spa, gym, everything. You just find yourself because it's like in life, if we could just save ourselves from the moment like your friend before we just get to that point where it's like, damn. You know what I mean?

Free Brian, bro. Free purpose, bro. You know what I'm saying? Bring him back out.

Most of the time, it's like, yo. In life, you know what I learned, Theo? In life, it's better to be happy than to be right.

You know what I mean?

Sometimes people get so much trauma in their life.

That's from Asian culture, yeah.

They get so much trauma. Like your friend has so much trauma for people treating them wrong, treating them wrong. He felt that was the right thing to do. Probably just do the wrong thing. Yeah.

Oh, I'm sure. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like the only thing... Somehow I'm going to show you to fucking see me. And if it's going to have to be a crime, it's going to have to be whatever it needs to be. You're going to be seeing me to get that look. You're going to see me, motherfucker. You're going to see me somehow, right? Exactly. I'm not calling you, I'm just saying.

But that's the attitude they take as a human. You know what I mean? You take that on your own and it's like, Yo, bro, ask your friend out. Is that really happening? Right. Is that really happening?

Sometimes, though, the pain somebody, I believe, is feeling, ain't even their pain. It's from another generation, man. You have somebody out here expressing a pain that's just been stuck in their DNA because the DNA has to be even at the end of the line. God made it all even. I believe that has to find a way to even out because nature is a pretty even lady.

That's what about the Lodge and therapy and CTSBA. It's about understanding your trauma, realizing it.

What is CTE? Bring it up. I just want to have a clear idea because I always say it all the time, and I have no idea what it is.

It's the new crazy. It's like the new what you don't I understand. But it's really like a head trauma that the NFL diagnose that players die by that they can't find out until you die.

So they can't find out until you die. Chronic traumatic encephalopathy.

Yeah, but it's like, you already got that shit if you hit in so much, right? You a football player, we banging every day.

It's a brain disease that worsens over time and can lead to dementia. It's caused by repeated blows to the head, such as concussions that damage brain tissue. Cte can affect anyone who has experienced repetitive head trauma, including athletes, military veterans, and first responders. Do you have to get a diagnosis? Did you get a brain scan done?

I got a lot of brain.

I feel like, yo, this is It's like some of the... You never felt anything... Okay, sorry. I'm sorry to interrupt you.

Playing football, you got to understand, Vawn, you're signing up the fucking bang out. Right. Before you even... You're playing the NFL, Yeah, lifting weights. When they hit you, they're hitting you to hurt you. If they hit a guy like you, Theo Vawn, if they knock you out on the field, they're going viral, they're going on TV, they might get a job pay raise. So it's pre-eminated for alpha males to just lift weights and hit hard to bang out. So before you sign up.

Right. If you sign me to the zoo, you know them will be- You know you got to hit animal. Don't expect it when I show like an animal. Of course.

So it's like, okay, after you're done being the animal and you realize being the animal just was for a short time, that is not realistic. It's just a part of your life. It's a kick game that you made your life and you feel like you realize you get 30 something. You're like, Yo, I don't got that much fucking college on my knees. It's only a thin line of college that you got, you ain't going to be able to run forever. You know what I'm saying? So you realize the real things of being an athlete.

You just remember. Was there an athlete that you saw? Was there a receiver or an athlete that you saw one time that really brought it to your attention? Wow, the physical, the long term effects of the physicalness of this?

No, I feel like you always understand as a player, is it going to be physical? But I feel like it's up to you to play the game smart and put yourself in position. It's like your craft. I'm a football player. I'm a receiver. I know how to run the routes on you with the timing and the precision and make sure I don't get hit.

Was there a season that you could have showed up for better in yourself? You just had too much going on in your own life? I always showed up.

You did? Yeah, that was my life. My life is my football. If I don't play good, I don't get treated good.

Who do you miss catching passes from Who's the one the most?

Probably Big Van.

Really? Yeah.

Big Ben. Probably Tom braided, too. I caused some passes. I'm really grateful to be an athlete with some of the best quarterbacks in the world.

You did get to. That was a blessing. You know what I mean?

That was super blessing, man. Being a good receiver depend on the quarterback. You're only as good as your quarterback. Man, I was blessed to play with number Championship quarterbacks, Big Ben and Tom braided.

It's while when you see guys that leave a team to go to a team that I don't have a great quarterback just for the money. But I guess that's part of it, huh?

No, it's a bad decision. You got to ask Tyree Hill.

Yeah.

He tried to be a cheater, man. He should have stayed. He fucking Patrick Mahomes going to the Super Bowl. You in fucking Miami?

Now, you are in Miami. It's nice.

It's not nice in Miami.

It's not.

You come to Miami after your career when you're ready for a vacation. Miami is a vacation. You don't want to be down there with all this party scene and BBLs everywhere. It's a distraction, man. You need to play in Kansas City. It's cold and you focus on You know you're going to win.

What's BBLs mean?

You know where the BBL is?

I hear the term all the time. What is it?

Bring it up. You never had no BBL?

I don't know if I have or not. I want to see what it is. Brazilian butt lift. Oh, okay. And they go to Brazil to get it?

Theo ain't got no ass. You ain't got no chicks with no ass, Theo.

I don't know. How much is it?

You got to buy a new ass. It's probably cost like 15 bands, depending on what size you are.

Zoom in on that one on the right.

Zoom in on that. You like that ass, huh? That's the ass of the day.

Let's go, boy. That's the crack of the day.

That's the crack. She put the crack in her booty crack.

That's resilient, huh? Look, that's wild.

That's a new ass. You got to get your bitch a new ass when they been hit. Oh, God, that's crazy.

I'll get her an SUV, maybe if we're married or whatever. But what about that? What's this thing going on?

That's funnel cake.

That's that funnel cake.

That's that. Right there. There it is.

Literally, bro. God, that's a Birmingham butt lift. She got that bitch down in fucking Central Alabama. That thing fucking lopsided, bro. Damn.

No cheeky, huh?

No cheeky.

You get that skinny BBL. It's a pin on what you know. What you know, what you arrange, and how you want to open your hips.

I don't know. I don't want to need that. I don't want to... Some women, it's like, if it's too much, it... I don't want to fuck something that's fucking back. You don't want the Jello? I don't know if I can handle it, man. I might swerve, hit that corner. You know what I'm saying, bro?

Oh, shit. What do you think about that new Jello song? You think you like that?

You know what, man? At first, I was like, the bar, the main bar is good. But then I was like, I don't know. But then I was listening to it yesterday a couple extra times, and I did. I felt like-You got one? Yeah. I was just like, I think it's... Yeah, I liked it. You got one? I liked it.

It sounds like an '90s song, right?

It does a little bit. It makes you feel like anybody could like it. Almost like somebody from 15 to 50.

You could take that in. Yeah, you I'm going to take that in. Shout out to Jello, athletes being rappers, man. That's pretty cool.

It is cool, man. I really like... His brother played in for the Pelicans for a while.

His brother's ballers, man. It's good to see all brothers.

It is cool to see three brothers get to do something together. Three brothers do something That's exciting. And they had Zion Williamson down there. He fucking-Yeah, that kid got bungees. Yeah, that guy. They're so exciting to play. But now that Zion's in, how are they in their last 10 games, Pelicans? Look at their last 10 games, man.

Zion, carry these guys. They're going to be as good as he want to be.

He just misses a lot.

They got to take care of them a little better.

Oh, yeah.

He got to take care of himself, too.

I think so. But then also, you know what? I'm just judging. I don't really know.

No, I feel like they got to take care of him, too. And it's on him, too. It's like, It's a collaboration. You know what I'm saying? A combination because if the Pelican is going to be great, they got to go with Zeon. Zeon go down, they go down.

That's a good point. How do you make it all work?

It's a mutual duo. How do you make it all work? You got to bring your King to It's a puzzle, man. You can't have your guy.

You're right. I think I'm just a little angry at him as a fan.

No, he's a professional. I feel like I expect more out of him, too, because he got so much ability. It's so much more in there. Yes.

And time goes fast. Time ticks, man. You think it's not going to tick?

I feel like we just got to get him. They got to build him up.

What about when Leviaan left? Was that weird when he left Pittsburgh?

Man, I took the heart out of the soul of the team. Leviaan Bell, one of my close friends, was like, man.

Why was his energy? He was like the team. People loved him, huh?

Man, the Pittsburgh Steelers is known for the runningbacks. Oh, yeah. Jerome Betis, they love him. Leviaan Bell is one of those guys.

Willy Wills, Parker.

Willy Parker, breaking on run, 70 yards. He smoking guy.

Bro, he didn't get enough acclaim.

He was a great player, man. Well, they more. We had always good running More out of Tulane, wasn't he?

No. Where's Morel?

Yeah, Tulane, right from New Orleans. Come on, let's go. You know your history. Let's go. We had a lot of running backs. Isaac Redman. We had a lot of good guys, man. The bus. Frank O'Harris. Frank O'Harris. We had a legendary guy.

A lot of history over there. Jerry Olszansky. He was an offensive lineman, but I still- It was just so sad because it's like, Levia and one of the guys we drafted, one of the guys, he was this hard, still a guy.

He was so special. It was like, damn. It was like money He stopped us from our goals. It's like, damn, you all can't come there. That's what I mean by both sides of people of a culture. Even the team. I feel like once the O-lineman and the team went to joking them online because they was fairly freaking trauma. It was like, yo, we need him. But it's how he feel like he don't need us. Now, they're like, yo, it's like, fuck you, fuck you. It's like, Man, as people, we got to make the uncomfortable comfortable or not. Looking back, it's like, yo, that could have maybe won this dealership.

Couple of champions.

You know what I mean? Just if we had the courage, the fucking go get Levia on, bro.

But what about, do you think agents sometimes ruin the possibility for there to be a- I feel like a lot of different people in your corner building you up on what they think you deserve and what's best for you and not seeing the bigger picture.

I feel like that's a part of life. Sometimes in life, if you don't act on the opportunity, you could miss it thinking it was positive for you and maybe it wasn't. Life goes on no matter who you is. So it was like, I don't take my life for granted, man. In that moment with Levy, I just wish we could have done what we did.

Because it would have been awesome if it did happen.

It was like, What could have? And it's like, We don't want to never be living in that realm of what we could have done when we had every opportunity to do it. You know what I mean? That was some special moments, man.

Who you got in a Super Bowl, man? Who you got in a Super Bowl?

Got to go to Kansas City. It was like, How you go against Patrick My Hones and Travis Kelsi for a 3P? Yeah, I think also-I want to see it now because now we're seeing another level of greatness and another level of specialness. Shout out to Andy Reid for fucking just knowing how to do it.

It's true, huh?

Hell, yeah.

Dude, I saw... You had the tweet the other day. It was so good. He looked like Darlene from fucking Rosanne, bro. That shit was...

That shit was hysterical.

It's just funny. It was hysterical, yeah.

Bro, we got the best X app, bro. I only like my X app and my Xbox.

Because you can say what you want. X app and my Xbox. And my ex-box. X app and my Xbox. And ex-girlfriend.

Sometimes. You know what I'm saying?

Sometimes. But this is so true. Remember when my homie played Darlene on Roseanne, bro?

Definitely. That's his twin right there. That's not his face I know.

You're too cold, man.

I'm like, Jacob an assassin.

Do you also have somebody else writing stuff for you or it's just you?

Yeah, it's a combination me and my guy, Jacob. Jacob is an assassin. Oh, that I met here? Yeah, Jacob. It's me and him come out. Wow.

That's savvy, bro.

Yeah, he's fucking the Savage.

He's a savvy, dude. Are there some players that you're still tight with? And is there a player? Of course. Yeah?

Yeah, man. I got a lot of great players. Le'vion Bell, one of my closest friends still. He came with me on a Trump Paine. Mike Wallace, one of my close friends under the radar, played with me for a still as long time.

Yeah.

Plexigol Barrez, one of my long-time OGs, played with me in 2013. You know what I mean? He helped me like, Yo, man, move your split. Little Get Busy show me was just working the outside receiver, how to play with the split so people not understanding the routes or knowing what I was doing so I could just run different routes from different angles so they wouldn't see it. Just little- Little things. Little things that helped me be great. You know what I mean? Ron Sanders was always a pioneer in my corner. Even when I came back to play with Tom braided, just the whole process in that. Tom braided was always a prime factor, even though I joked him and shit. Being an eternal, he always was one of my closest friends.

Because you're a pretty stand-up guy.

All the way stand-up. You always remember those people in the darkest time who was there for you. You know what I'm saying? Who wrote for you. I knew when I went to the Raiders, went to the Patriots with them, had a star stunt, I think he got to know, damn, He be really a smart, working hard guy with a lot of energy and the goal, where I'm leading God because you could come in the football team, you're going to learn a lot by God. One, is he in shape? Could he know what to do? I feel like I built that We were just showing him for that week of work, just like, damn. You know what I mean? He brought me back after a year off. We won the Super Bowl.

That's heavy. You know what I mean?

That's big. You know what I mean? It was just amazing to know that we could go plan something that we set out to do. And do it. And do it.

Do you think Belichick is as good without braided? Or in the end, it's all just a matter of peace.

No one in the NFL is good without a quarterback. Tom braided don't come around You know what I'm saying? You never find a guy who just got overlooked. And then he just fucking turned Superman and just fucking wipe your ass out for 20 plus years. You know what I'm saying? Because not a lot of people get that trauma. You know what I'm saying? Tom braided had trauma.

Something inside of him or inside of his father, his grandparent, and his DNA. Something inside of his...

Something in his heart that was like... Something in his balls.

Wanted to cook.

That was fucking ready to go and not fucking off the... Some shit you never see again.

Even him as an analyst. I'm loving him as an analyst because he gives you different- You're not going to take it serious. He gives you different insights that you never would have heard. He said the other day in one of the games, he said that, Oh, I usually looked at how far I had to get, and I average it usually about a second per yard He said when the clock was really low or something. Whatever.

I'm fucking that up. That fucking living dream football.

Yeah, you could tell. It's like Drew Brees is the same way.

That fucking Tom braided is a one-on-one. Trust me. Drew Brees is the same. I stayed at his fucking house. That kid is 42 2 years old, fucking breath a lazer on the fucking treadmill the day after the game and the fucking treadmill on incline, he got on a fucking knee sock. We run a Super Bowl, they fucking got a fucking MCL the whole game. He can't even wear it. He wearing jeans to practice. He practicing them fucking denim jeans with a knee brace. And he like, Yo, one more route. He's always a one more guy. He's never worn this one more. This is right here for the Super Bowl. He's always just the most prepared, bro. I never seen a guy live and sleep, fucking winning football games. Fucking, he lose a game that fucking guy, like he lost a relative, like someone died.

Like he lost one of his legs.

Even if you're seeing him, it's like, you don't want to see Tom after that loss. He's fucking dropping even more. Fucking hit the gas even more. It's like some shit you want to be. It's like some Navy Seals shit. That much energy. That much affection. Let's I'm not going to go out and fucking do it.

Towards it. Describe some of these words for teams. I'm going to give you a name of a team. Just give me a word or two to describe them. Ravens.

Aggresive.

Browns.

Toilet bowl. You know how to take the Cleveland... How many times you take the Cleveland Browns to the Super Bowl? How many times? You understand that bar?

You all better dig Jim Brown up.

I'm talking taking the shit. Oh, damn. The Cleveland Browns to the Super Bowl, that's the toilet because that's the only Super Bowl they're going to, the toilet. You go to the Browns? Yeah, you know where you're going.

So people know when they go in there, it's done, huh?

Same shit, different toilet. You know what I'm saying? It's just a file of shit.

Come on, Frank.

What about the Bangles?

When you see the Bangles- The Bangles? Yeah.

The Bangles, I think a Batman Jones. Raw player, great player, but some way they're going to fuck it up. Just a fuck up. Just a knucklehead. You feel me? Some away to Cincinnati always fuck it up. It's like Joe Burrow just looked like Ellen. But I like Chase Daniels.

Yeah, you like Chase Daniels? Yeah. He's a backup quarterback, right?

He's a running back.

Oh, he is? Chase Daniels?

David. What's his name? Chase. He's the number one receiver. I don't I don't know his name, but his name Chase. He's a fucking elite. I think he was the Triple Crown of the elite. He's talking about Jamal Chase. Jamal Chase. Yeah. He was the fucking- They are.

Yeah. Jamal being Chase, that's for sure. I love Burr.

He had a great season. No, he did. He played like a champion, though. He did good. At this, you feel like- But still, the game is you got to get- No, Joe Burr played his outside.

What about the Jets now?

The Jets is the Jets. It was like the side check in New York. God damn. I feel like all New York teams right now is just...

It's hectic.

Yeah, it's walking right now. It's hectic over there.

What's a little bit of news that's going on, man? You got any news stories?

Yeah, Trump said he's going to release the MLK file. Yeah, that's why I told you he's going to release the file.

We talked about that. But see, I believe that... Here's what I believe in that. I believe the CIA or the FBI or whatever has gone through, probably marked stuff in there to make MLK look bad, right? Of course, they changed the narrative. They want to bring him down. Because here's what happens is, first they give you leaders, then they start to release information that brings those leaders down. When they do that, they kill a culture. They're killing a culture, right? Of course. Now, all the people that had him as a role model, and he may have had a different- High-level guy. And a high-level guy. He may have had a unique life that was filled with different things, but it didn't make him maybe a bad guy.

It just take away. That's what I'm saying.

They want to take away your culture.

That's what America has been based on for Black culture.

And White culture, too, man. It happens now for White culture, too.

I think it happened for all human. That's why we got to preeminate it. Just mostly for the Blacks, the Blacks' superhero.

Oh, yeah. It's definitely It's been more to Blacks. But now you're seeing where they're going and taking down. The media can go and take black leaders down, right?

I mean, that's all it is. It's a media takedown. That's all it's been.

What else we got?

The only person in the The world with a functioning pig organ is thriving after a record two months.

Damn, let's pull that up, man. A pig organ? They got a pig organ they put in somebody. The only person in the world with a functioning-Black person?

Damn.

Oh, damn. Is That's what I'm saying. An Alabama woman passed a major milestone on Saturday to become the longest living recipient of a pig organ transplant, healthy and full of energy with her new kidney, 61 days in counting. Man, that's I messed up, man. I feel like hot in a piece of... Hot in pork inside of a black person seems fucked up. Is that crazy to say? That's crazy to say.

In fucking Alabama? Come on.

Come on, man. That's insider trading, bro. You can't mess They just turned it to a pig. It's just like, man.

That shit's bad walking business, bro.

But a lot of people love baked. You can't put a piece of fucking bacon inside of somebody's body.

Why the fuck would she get that? That's all they had?

That's a good point, See, that's the shit that Black people been going through. Like, Hey, we ain't got a regular heart.

Yeah, like some side shit.

We put this fucking side heart in you.

They can't do them like that. They got to stop doing us like that. God damn, bro. At least we could get a regular one. They got Are there regular ones out there?

Yeah, at least. Yeah, you can't- That's a while. Yeah, even if a- What's the source of you living?

Like the pig organ.

Even give her one with the beats off a little bit. That's fine. Put that remix in her, but don't give her a pig heart. Sign Scientists are genetically altering pigs, so their organs are more humanlike to address a severe shortage of transplantable human organs. It's interesting. What else, man? What else have we covered? I'm trying to think of things that I wanted to cover today, man. Tiger King star Joe Exotic claims eight prison guards beat him up after one tried to force him to give oral sex in interview with Mac. That's Tiger King. You all mess with him, this guy? Remember him?

Oh, shit. They're trying to take Tiger King out.

They're trying to get him in jail, but But he in there slurping for sure, bro. He been in there. But yeah, that's the one thing I think is if they... I don't know what else I think, man. My brain's tired. Yours get tired sometimes?

No, I just keep it going.

How much pot do you smoke today, you think?

That's my first two joints.

Damn. Yeah, I can't. Black people are so much better at getting high, I think, man.

Because you got a lot of trauma, it just help you relax.

Fuck, dude, I got high. I couldn't fucking walk four or five feet without making sure everybody's okay. But obviously, Black guys will play a whole basketball game on a being high.

Yeah, you got high as a stuster when ready to go.

I don't know. It was always at beyond. It blew my mind.

You just got to slam your... If you want to be Black, just slam your dick in the door. It's going to swell up. And then you're Black. Then your energy going to go up. You feel me?

I don't know, bro. Bro, I can't take any more medical... I can't take any more suggestions from you today, bro. You're going to have me with a sore dick yelling the N-word out on the interstate.

We're going to be going viral. It's a party, bro.

Oh, man. I appreciate you coming, A. B, man.

Thanks for having me, man. It was an honor, man, to just sit down, talk about some huge stuff. Even if it was uncomfortable, just make the normacy of just breaking bread.

Yeah, I'm intrigued. What do you see? Like, what things you want to do in the coming future? Because it's like, I feel like at first people thought you was crazy. And then now people are thinking, well, you know what? That's all judgment. What do you want to do? What's some things do you feel like you want to achieve?

I just want to serve my purpose of living, giving out light, encouraging people and bridging the gap. Some of the stuff we've been doing on X, bringing a harmony between bridging the gap of people and just opening people's minds of experiencing, making people aware of what traumas they face, just being a a normal person, not even to be a celebrity or any type of color, just people as humans. You know what I mean? Going through traumas and overcoming and just bridging the gap or just raising awareness with leaders.

What's one of your biggest regrets you've had over the years, if you have one?

My biggest regret probably was just not throwing a wedding for myself. I feel like so many people fucked me over and do so much bad parties. I might just go to I'll alter with myself and celebrate myself.

That much, huh?

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because I feel like life is about living, and I feel like you got to love yourself. Being a Black person, you experience so much trauma with so many people writing you down, changing the narrative, character, bring you down. So it's like you got to keep enough sanity and not enough enthusiasm to just be encouraged and have the confidence because not everybody could overcome what people writing them all, killing their character, bringing them down, making them feel a certain way. It's like a strong individual to be able to overcome that. I feel like it just continue to raise an awareness, talking to people like yourself, high-level people that are bridging the gap, are just raising conversations that inspire the youth in the world, just spreading the light. I think I accomplish a lot of things in my life in a short time, and I feel like now it's just being that inspiration as a human. The hardest thing you could do is inspire So just inspired people, raising conversations, inspiring people, bringing smiles, bringing people together.

You do that. I think you really seem like an interesting guy. I'm glad that I got to get to chat with you. I do think, too, they should auction off that word once in a while, man.

Maybe we have that little auction, man. Because think about it. Maybe we had a Nigger Awards and then just maybe change the name word. I know you hate the word, but it's a part of history. The word only get... Yo, we need to create a music.

We'll sit in the back this time if you all do have it. How about that?

No, you got to be in the front line.

That's going to cause a lot of controversy, dude.

We're going to build it up. We're going to throw out the teachers, get the commercials. We're going to make sure-We're going to free Brian Purvis, let him give one out. Yeah. We're going to talk to Brian Purvis on the CTSPN and talk about some of his traumas, what did he learned and what he had in his life now.

And why he went to Black culture to feel comfortable, too. Because I think that's an interesting thing.

I feel like that would embrace him. How he grew up made him feel like he was one of the guys. Because imagine when your own people treat you like shit, you feel like Black people because all I people know is to be treated like shit. So I was like, Yo, we're going to treat you like shit. So it was like, Until you break the culture of shit and making people understand, it's okay to be of the not normal, but still have that love. To still build them in the right way so you don't turn the right wrong way or do the wrong thing. We got to save people.

And if they had a thing, say it like, you know, tonight, bro, right? 9: 30 PM, Macaulay Culkin is doing an N-word, bro.

That's comedy.

From Home Alone, you're telling me, how many people would pay to stream that?

Man, they going to love that.

And then you give the money to...

We donate to the organizations, the Black community.

To Black organizations. Exactly.

We make it beneficial, man. Everything we do with positive intent to bring people together We're going to get a lot of hate for even thinking about that, I think. But I could think it could-I feel like we can't worry about the hate. I feel like in life-Okay, you're right. Because sometimes the hate come and after the hate, come rewards. After the hate, 2. 7 billion. You know what I'm saying? After the hate, come the love. I feel like if you're not getting hate, then you're not raising the comfort. You got to be uncomfortable.

You're right. You have to be uncomfortable. To get comfortable.

Just how you feel uncomfortable about it is we got to find the resource to make you comfortable. We found the resource, okay, let's do it like this. We're going to give back to the Black community. So now we're not just saying this in the detourer way to be funny. We got a real resource behind this, and we're bringing people together. Oh, yeah. Because this is a natural thing. It's not like people haven't said this. A little kids. I tell you, Tom Brady's son has been till he was like, yo, you think about the word? Tom Zay had to explain them in the word. I was like, Yo, man, I think it's not in the '50s where people used this. It's not slaves no more. You know what I'm saying? It's the normacy of Black families being rich and living in a the same culture of generational wealth.

Yeah, and building that up and seeing what the future that's like in the universe. Exactly. I'm just a bystander in all of that. But yeah, I think that would be really interesting to see if that was a way to raise some money, but that also might be really crazy.

I think we're talking the X hat right now. We were thinking maybe the cracker Olympics, but we maybe call it the ABC Olympics.

Abc. In the C's for Cracker? Yeah.

You know what I mean? That's why everybody could feel comfortable because we're not trying to promote comfortability.

Dude, a lot of good crackers ain't getting it. Everybody likes a A little bit of shine.

Everybody deserves shine. We're all humans. We deserve shine. No matter who you are in the face of it, we deserve shine. Yeah, all plants, bro. Everybody's working hard towards something.

All plants, bro. We look at the sun, man. Which we got another Anything else you want to talk about?

The Elon Trump fart. The Elon Trump fart coin. Etf 500. Elon Trump fart coin. I wish I could pump out a fart right now before I'm on half a belly. But yeah, this is the coin. It's a Bitcoin. What's your thoughts on crypto? I know you got a lot of money and shit on crypto.

I do just mutual, but I'm a safe, bro. I get scared about my money. Oh, wait, I did get probably one-sixtieth of a Bitcoin or something. How much? One-fourieth of a Bitcoin. How much is that? I think maybe 3,500.

I got in there.

You got a lot of Skane. I got a little put away. Nothing crazy. You got a lot of Gs up. Might be 4,000.

So check out the Elon Musk fartcoin, man.

So it's Elon Musk fartcoin Elon Trump fart coin. Which one is it?

Elon Trump fart coin.

So check out the Elon Trump fart coin. And what is that? It's a coin that's out on...

It's one of the best coins that's out on crypto. Oh, really? Yeah, it's going up. It's heating up right now. Let's see that. Elon Trump fart 500.

Pull that up. Elon Trump fart 500.

Yeah. That shit looking down like a fuck.

That shit, but do it a long day. That's just 24 hours. Give me it in a month.

Yeah, long day should be in Greeneski. There you go. I go to Greenes. Elon Trump coin 500.

Elon Trump fart.

Oh, yeah. I was going to fart with it. I thought you was going to bust some ass right there.

No, that's all right, man. I don't think we need it. Let's don't bridge the gap that much, bro. Etf. Etf 500. Okay.

Elon Trump fart, 500 coin. Crypto is going up.

Gang, gang. You trade a lot?

I trade a lot, man. I try to get into it. It's a lot of money in a digital aspect.

Yeah. No, I agree. It's a huge part of the culture now, too. It's all different things that happen in financial culture. I'm curious to see what the whole future of crypto and that whole world looks like, meme coins and everything. It's interesting. A, B, thank you, man. I really appreciate your time.

My honor, man. Thanks for having a conversation, chatting with me.

For just all the tweeting and stuff, it's a lot of It's a lot of commitment. Thank you for that. Thank you, man. It takes a lot of time to do that. People don't think about that. It's a lot of time. So thank you for the commitment. And best of luck to you, man. Thank you, brother.

Yeah. Now, I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be cornerstone. But when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones. But it's going to take.