Transcript of #612 - Pete Davidson

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I love this.

Thanks for coming by, dude.

Dude, thank you for fucking having me. This is awesome. Oh, yeah. I only watch you and I listen to this podcast.

What are you talking with Joel Oesteen?

No, I listen to your podcast, and I listen to this podcast called How Did This Get Made, where they just talk about movies.

Oh, yeah. Wait, I know who's showing. That's not Doug.

It's Manzukus and Paul Sheer. They just talk about movies that were ridiculous, and then just the math of how they got made.

Paul Sheer is so cool.

He is really cool. Good guy. Is he?

Yeah. I never known that much, except just seeing him in movies and TV.

Manzukus is maybe pound for pound, one of the fucking funniest human beings. Really? It's amazing.

Manzukus, huh? Let me get a gander at him. He's all the ethnicities, he's a fucking Gaza strip of That man. Dear God, I'd be afraid to open my car door if I were him, and I wouldn't even know which way it was coming from.

He's one of those guys that's looked like that forever, and now he's the appropriate age to look like that, but he'll also still look like that forever. You know what I mean?

He looks like somebody off that Muslim version of Guess Who. Remember that game? You know what I'm saying? No offense, Mr. Manzukas. If you're as funny as he says you are, you're okay with some of this. They should have a Muslim version of Guess Who. Dude, they have an Asian version? It's just all the same guy, oh, man.

Do they really? Do they have one for every country?

I'm sure they do. It's fucking the way they do it now.

That's what I like about it. You learn a little bit.

Oh, yeah. Well, they have a guess who, too, for twinks. I know there's one, it's like one of these guys doesn't mind meeting other guys or whatever. Jesus Christ. This is crazy. Dude, you're going on your first international tour. Is that cool? Pete Davidson, good to see you today, man.

Thanks for having me, bro.

Yeah, thanks, dude.

I'm stoked. I've never been anywhere unless it was for work. But I've always wanted to try. It's just like, I can't believe that anybody would come see me over there.

You almost need to go there to believe that.

Yeah, I'm dumb where I'm like, no one knows me in Australia. I've never been there before. I don't have friends there, but I'm excited.

Are you taking anybody with you? Is it only you?

It's me and my friend Joey gay, who has been doing shows with me since I'm 18.

Oh, nice. Bring him up. Let me get a picture of Joey Gay.

Joey Gay is fucking hilarious, dude.

I may have met him, but I can't remember.

He's been around forever. He's just one of those dudes that just always destroys There he is. Yeah. He's also been my friend since the before time. I know him. Yeah, he's a monster, dude. He's fucking great.

I know him. He looks a little bit like Chris, almost like Chris DiStefano in Charlemagne had a kid a little bit in that picture.

No, he's a real good dude.

That's great. Where are you guys headed to? I know you're headed to Perth, I saw.

Perth, Sydney. Oh, yeah. Another one. Maybe Melbourne? Yeah. It could be wrong. I have no idea. When you get a tour schedule and you're super intimidated and you just go day by day. But I know we're doing it. Oh, here they are.

Singapore. Whoa. Yeah. And what's causing all that? There's a lot of good street food there.

That was just burk. I don't know if-We have the same agent. Yeah, we have the same agent. So he'll be like, Yeah, you could fit this one in there. It's on the way. There's a layover over there.

Why don't you parachute into the Azores? I got a hostage facility outside of Guantanamo. I'll sell 200 tickets in right now. They owe me. They owe me. All right, whatever.

Yeah, they always do owe him.

I got it. Dude, that's going to be great. And you're going to Riyadh. How do you guys feel about this Saudi Arabian Comedy Festival? There's been a lot of talk about this recently. Are they limiting what you guys can say? Have you heard anything about it yet?

That one, I haven't heard much about. Singapore, I had a laundry list of stuff. It was my whole act, so I don't know what to do. I'm googling old sets from when I was 20. I'm just going to do the classics.

Dude, do some of Jim Gaffigan's bits. That's what I do if I'm in a tough spot.

Or just do Nate stuff, just very evergreen, clean stuff. Have you ever had that problem?

Yeah, dude. Oh, yeah. I have it a lot. I have a lot where it's like you have to sift back through.

One of them was like, you could talk about sex, but not in a dirty way.

Dirty way.

I'm like, what the fuck does that mean? Yeah.

I guess let's try to have a conversation about sex, but not in a dirty way. Oh, man, I had some... I had some sex recently. How did it go? Well, I thought it went pretty good. I was on a full stomach.

Did you both blast?

Hold on. I need to leave this conversation. This isn't Singapore approved, I think. And they'll beat you with that stick over there. Remember, they killed that honky over there like 25 years ago. Remember that guy? Christopher Reeves or whatever. Who was that guy?

They killed Christopher Reeves in Singapore?

I think, or maybe it's not him. Who was it? This is a huge thing when I was a child. They beat this guy for doing something over there. What was he doing? Oh, this guy. Michael Fay. There he was. Tina Fay's brother. This is why she had to win. She didn't have a choice. The person was famously caned in Singapore as Michael Fay, an American teenager. In 1994, Fay was sentenced by a Singaporean court to six strokes of the cane and four months in jail for acts of vandalism, specifically for spray painting and damaging cars.

Oh, he didn't do anything.

As well as stealing road signs. Yeah.

I mean, that's fine.

Oh, that's just a little bit of newsome foreplay right there. That's nothing, dude.

That's sad. It's sad in general, but just for spray painting cars and stealing road signs. I feel like they should just cut your hand off or or something.

Well, I think this guy's pretty lucky, dude. Some places, I guess they still have a lot of that. But no, what I've heard, dude, is that that Riyadh Festival is that there's a lot of people that say people are getting paid by this Middle Eastern money. Right. And that they can say this or they can't say that or that they're over there. They're going to try to influence you guys in order to speak certain ways. Are you part of that conspiracy theory or is that nothing you're on?

I've heard there's subreddits of, I think all these people are in bed With that, I get the routing, and then I see the number, and I go, I'll go. Okay. Yeah. And also, there's part of me that's just like, I've been getting a little bit of flak just because my dad died 9/11. So they're like, How could you possibly go there?

So your dad died during 9/11? He died in one of the buildings?

Yeah, he was a fireman. They were actually the first truck there. There's this very This is how shitty my luck is. Also, not to make this all about myself, but-Well, it's an interview of you.

If you do, it's okay.

I'm at 9/11, but yeah, it's all about me. There's a very famous shot that you see every 9/11 besides the obvious ones, but they were the first truck over the bridge to the- To the 9/11? Yeah. The front page is just like, Pete's dad. I'm like, Oh.

He's waving out the window.

Yeah, he's like that. Yeah, they were the first truck over there, and pretty much the whole house died, which is sad, but also, at least he died with his pals.

They all went as a group. That's his truck?

No, that's the picture. You see the truck on the bridge? Yeah. My dad's in there, dude. I wonder-Oh, man. Sorry.

That's what Shane Gillis would say, dude.

Pretty gay, dude. He's in there. It's pretty gay. I don't know.

Yeah, my down syndrome brother's in there. Yeah, I feel like that's what Shane would say the whole time. That's your dad right there?

That's my pop's, dude.

Dude, you're Mec, you're part... You're Mec Latino?

No, all white and Jewish and Irish. Oh, wow. I'm a little Italian. Yeah, but I feel like our family looks mixed, but we're not.

Well, it's crazy that he died in 9/11, and also part of him is accused of doing it. That's the craziest part. So I think that's where you're the fucking… You're the Bermuda triangle of 9/11.

It is a little weird that they were the first truck there. That is true. It's almost like he was too ready to go.

Yeah, it's the old Irish hello. Yeah, that's the Irish part, I think. Oh, man, he's a handsome guy. What was he like?

He was fucking hilarious, man. My memories are few and far between because I was seven, but I just remember laughing a lot, him being pretty jacked and smoking a lot of cigarettes and driving a Subaru Impreza. That's all I remember. Always had a big smile on his face, but my favorite thing is, I don't know if you have, I'm sure you do, people come to your shows and they're like, I knew your dad or I know your cousin or whatever. A lot of people lie to me about that just to come backstage because they know I can't be like, sure, or whatever.

But I don't want to hear about it. Of course, you want to hear a story about your dad.

Of course. I could always tell who is telling the truth because the second they start talking, they have this big smile and their eyes light up, and they I call him Scotty, which is what his friends call him. I always could tell. Everything I hear is always really sweet. I'm sure they keep the horrible things away. Yeah, Scotty met him in the Jets. Yeah. He did. He was a big Jets fan. But you lost your pops. You were young, too, right?

Yeah, I was 16. My dad died. He was just older, though. But I think like... Yeah, I mean, losing your dad when you're a kid is tough. I think, obviously, it's tough. I think it's... It is funny. As you get older, you want to know the different stuff about him. Was he a pervert or whatever? Yeah, what do you like? Because it's still more information. Did he sleep in his car or whatever? What did he do for fun?

I think it's worse at your age, though, because you could fully understand the scope of what happened. You're at such a pivotal age in your life where you're growing and becoming a man. I was really young, so I didn't even really know what the fuck happened. It hit me later. When I was in college, I was like, Oh, I'm pretty angry about this. It show up more and more as I get older because you understand that's really sad to happen to a kid. But I feel like your age, and forgive me if I'm wrong, but that's visceral. That's some tough shit.

Yeah, I think my dad was so old. My dad was born in 1910. He was an old man. What? He was 70 when I was born, so he was 86 at that time, right? Holy shit. So it wasn't like I had this dad that had this energy. I had this dad that was sleeping in the distance a lot or inadvertently causing shit, falling asleep. And the car boy would come picking up and he fucking doze off out there. My dad had this. He was always buying cars off these brothers that lived around the corner. One time, he had this cutlass that had some 22s in the trunk, some fucking bangers in that bitch. He would just listen to like, Rush Limba and shit like on with Boate's bass.

Cranked up.

Oh, bro. It would be like Paul Harvey, these old commentators. He would fucking just doze off in his car. Whenever he dozed off, he was old. His eyes would leak and they were just like, water would just pour out of him because you're getting old. Your gaskets get bad. So he was just fucking just shedding water weight. I was just fucking like, What is going on?

So you were a little prepared. You were a little I was prepared that things were going to go well.

My dad was like a driving 911. He pulls up in his own little... I would have been awesome if we got to put my dad's car behind that firetruck.

She You overimposed your dad's car in there.

Yeah, he was always a 911, dude. Every time he came in and something you'd have to get his fucking car, it didn't work. You had to get him to get a climb in the fucking wind. Everything was a fucking nightmare with him. The teachers would always look at you like, Don't get in there. With your dad? Yeah, but that's your parent picking you up. But then there's little things. Did you have some nice mementos of his?

Actually, I have his wedding ring that I wear all the time. I have his... It's actually super fucked up, but I have his badge, his chain, his badge, and they found that's how they... Because everybody was pretty burnt up, so that's how they knew it was him. I have it, and I just keep it in a safe because with my luck, I'll lose that shit. But I have a couple of those things, and I have his fire, his jacket and other set of pants, and I put them on the wall. I framed them. But then I took them down, though, because sometimes I'll be feeling good, and then I'll see that and I'll be like, Oh. It's a weird thing. I remember my mom has... It's everywhere you look, it's my dad. It's fucking... It's on a condom.

Hey, that's a lot. It's good. Sorry, that's crazy. I was just trying to make you laugh.

No, it didn't make me laugh. But it's haunting where you're just like, I would like the option. If I want to go down memory lane, I can. But just have your dad staring at you everywhere.

You don't want memory lane just hanging out on the wall being like, Hey, do a lap.

Do you have any stuff for your dad? Do you have those speakers? No.

What do we have? I have his passport for whenever he moved to the US. Where's he from? He's from Nicaragua. He came down here when I think he was like, let me see. I guess he was 12 or whatever. That's wild.

It was pretty wild. I don't know anyone from there. That's crazy.

I don't know. I don't know.

It's like a real place. It's like a place you live on my space when you're in high school.

Nicaragua? Yeah.

Or Skanectody, New York.

Oh, yeah. Kalamazoo, Michigan. Yeah. Dude, I remember when I saw Kalamazoo in the airport one time, people were going there one day. I couldn't even fucking believe it. They were traveling in with a damn Dr. Seuss novel or something. I was like, Tell Cindy Lou who? I said, What's up? How old is she? You feel me? Blm, dude. But yeah, I think as you get older, stuff like that's interesting. Were you able to find pieces of fatherhood in other men as you got older?

Yeah, I think that's inadvertently what I was doing. I wasn't very conscious. I need to find me a dad.

But as I look back, though, that was what was cool about getting into comedy.

I was I was 16. So everyone, the youngest comedian friend I had was, I don't know, 29, 30. It was like, Che, DiStefano. Oh, that's great. All those guys, Yannis, Nate, Soda. It was all dudes that were older than me that... Obviously, there wasn't a lot of other younger dudes, but I've really looked up to them. I just see Joey. I do shows with Joey all the time. He's in his 50s. So most of my friends I find are 40 and up because I think that makes me feel safe and also just there's this some form of big brother thing.

Yeah, somebody looking out for you.

But also when you go through a tragedy that When I was young, your brain is older. I always felt like I was older, like in school, when that happened, kids would be like, Can I have a pool party? I'm like, No. I want to smoke cigarettes and cry. That innocence is taken away really fast, and that's why I got into stand-up. I'd watch Burr and Shapel. Rodney's my favorite. I think that's why I veered towards laughing a lot. I'm just a sad dude. I feel like most of us are pretty- Were you a pretty sad dude, you think? Yeah, I think there's- You always get pigeonholed as this I'm not sad dude, I think. Yeah, I'm like, What the fuck, guys? I'm like, I'm for everybody. So it was like, Oh, that guy just… That's where some of the hatred comes. I don't give a fuck attitude. I'm like, No, I'm miserable. I want to be that dude, too. All the dude you guys are talking about, I want to be him. I don't even know that guy. I look at pictures, I'm like, Who is this guy that everybody's talking about? It's not me.

But yeah, I grew up super duper sad. My mom shows pictures. You could always tell what pictures of me when I'm little before and after my dad passed because the eyes are different. The eyes are just sad.

The eyes have it. That's what they say.

Yeah.

Damn.

I feel like people think you must be the happiest silly dude ever, but I feel like you have some layers.

Oh, yeah, dude. I'd like to be in a wheelchair a lot of times. Just because? Just to fucking show them. I'll show them. That's my attitude. Show other dudes in wheelchairs? I'll take that bitch right out and we'll fucking interstate. I'll show them. Hit me. I'll go to heaven right now, motherfucker.

Do you ever play truth or not truth or dare, but like a Russian roulette with yourself where you're like, If I die this way, I'm supposed to.

Let me think about that.

Where I got a motorcycle for a little bit. You did? Just for a bit. And then I got in an accident.

Why just for a bit?

It was like, if I go this I was young, I was like, I don't give a fuck. I'm rock involved, dude. But then I didn't realize you can get in a motorcycle accident and it not be your fault. I didn't realize you can get hit by other cars.

Oh, yeah, you don't think about that.

I don't think about it. You're just like, it's all in my control. But some dude clipped me and then the bike fell on me. It was pretty mid, but I was like, oh, you could-It was enough. Yeah, I don't want to die by someone else. I want to do it.

Right.

Yeah. I want to go out on my shit.

Yeah, motherfucker. I'll die, bitch. Watch me. You don't think I'll die? Watch. Yeah. Dude, I'll say this. I've had a girlfriend before where I've been like, I knew I should leave her, but I'm like, I'm not leaving her because she'll find somebody that actually likes her. That's how fucking much I was miserable, dude.

You ever have- Sad to even think that shit. One of my rebuttals to a girl leaving me was like, You've done so much work. You've done so much work on me. It's like you got me ready for someone else. That's not fair because now I'm just going to be all this good with someone else. You taught me so much.

Yeah, at least show up for the graduation.

Yeah, come on. You put so much work in.

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I'm good now, but I used to dip in that. I was very like... Growing up, I wanted to die to be with my dad. Really? Very badly. I wanted to... So I tried to... This is so fucking embarrassing.

I get what I said, really, when you said that also, of course.

No, yeah. But I tried my first time when I was eight, I tried to I ground myself. Then my mom, this is so dark, but found me in the pool seeing what I was trying to do. Then she took me to a psych ward, and I was eight. I've struggled with that. Then I got out of it when I first started, I would say right around when I got SNL because I didn't have many friends growing up, and it was my fault. I've said this before where I was suffering and I was super weird, and I was very visibly hurting. But kids don't know that that's what you're going through. They just think you're weird.

They don't have this scope of-Did you feel like a lot of thoughts and stuff were trapped inside of you? What did you feel like you think?

Yeah, it was on a hamster wheel of just like... Because I have OCD and manic depression, so that's a horrible combo. Then you start doing drugs and it's like, Good luck. You're a fucking slot machine at that point. Yeah, of depression and the worst stuff. Then I would revert to that when I got sad. But then when I started doing stand-up, I found a group of weird friends and artists are cool and they understand sadness. A lot of them are not afraid to talk about that stuff. Oh, yeah. I was like, Oh, yeah. Then there's this weird thing. I don't know if you've I really had this because I know everybody just fucking loves you as they should. But I had this thing where I came out and everyone really rallied behind me. It was like, Oh, this kid, look what happened when he was a kid, and now he's doing this, and that's super cool. It was all going up. Then it flipped. Then it was like, Fuck this dude. I don't like this dude. I hate this dude. We're in the internet age, so I'm reading all that shit. Then it brought me back to childhood high school not fitting in again.

Low self-worth attached to all that old shit.

Then that shit started to pop back in, and then that's where I started doing drugs. Then a year and a half ago, I was just like, I need to I need to be okay if all this goes away. It can't be for stand-up. It can't be for this movie. It can't be for this girl. It can't even be for my family. I have to want to be okay. Otherwise, all this shit doesn't work.

Fuck, dude, when you say that, it's so scary to me. I don't know if I could ever... Even though I feel like I am, if there's a big part of me, the truth is I don't know how I would feel if I didn't have somebody else's feelings to base it on.

Yeah, it's like- Or if I didn't have how somebody else felt about me to base it on. Yeah, that's how I live. We're people-pleasers. We laugh at me, please. You know what I mean? Like, watch my movie. When I go outside, take a picture.

See me, even if you call me a fag or whatever, we can bleep that out. Or we can just say that he said it. But anyway, at least that's like-In the context, that makes sense. Only if it's during pride month and you mistook me for one of your best. Yeah, not in a regular-No, you should stand by that.

Okay. But that's a hard thing. You're undoing For me, it was 25 years of people-pleasing, and that's why I live. I had to learn how to be okay with this. Also, a year, year and a half ago, they were like, It's over. He's done.

He's a joke. Is it the media tabloids, that type of shit?

Yeah, where it's just like, there was articles that were like, I smoke crack and live with my mom. I was like, All right, give me part of that. Not all of that. It's a two bedroom. It sucks when there's four things in the article that are wrong, but there's one of them. You're like, actually, yeah, that's true. It's fucking true. I'm in rehab alone reading this, and a lot of my friends, I would say I still have half of them, but a lot of them, it got to a point with my use and how I was behaving where they were just like, I love you, but this is too much. Oh, wow. When that started happening, it started happening with people where I was I don't give a fuck about you anyway. Then it started happening with people I really cared about. I was like, Oh, shit. It's me. You could only go, It's everybody else for so long. Until you're like, Okay, I get it. Then that was it for me.

Was there a day you turned it in? You were like, I'm dropping the rock today.

Where I'm just like, I need to leave.

Or were you just like, I'm going to go definitely get some help? Or was there one conversation that I've cemented it for you? I guess, yeah, once you start to see like, Man, oh, that person is stepping away from me. God, it must be. Because it's weird. Sometimes you want to make your outside, you want to make it match how you feel on the inside. It's like,That's exactly it. I want you to leave me because I left me so long. In my mind, everybody left me so fucking long ago that I want... The fact that you're even still around here fucking makes me not even respect you in a sick way.

Yeah. And there's part of you that's probably, for For me, I was like calling bluffs, almost, where I was just like, I self-sabotage, blow up. Anybody that's ever actually loved me or cared about me has gotten the worst wrath from me. It's few and far between, but when it happens, it's fucked up. But this whole, Fuck you, leave me. Get ahead, leave me. They started to. I was like, Oh, shit, you're calling my bluff. I love you, and I don't want you to go away. Then you go into therapy, you're like, Fear of abandonment. You have BPD. This is why from your childhood, you did this, and your grandpa did this, and now you're this. You got to do that work. But yeah, it got to that point where people I really fucking loved. Also, my mom's the most supportive person in the world.

She's a cool lady.

The best. What's her name? Amy. She's the best.

That's a good name. Never dated. Was she married a fireman, Amy? Yeah.

She's a nurse. No. Yeah. They met each other in grammar school, like super Staten Island.

I want to marry a nurse.

Isn't Look how cute my mom is. She's just a sweet lady. She never dated after my mom, after my dad died. Just raised me and my sister alone and worked hard. She's been the most supportive ever. It got to a point where she called me when I was When I was in rehab, and she was like, My biggest fear is that I will turn on the news and see that my son has died. She's never been like that because she's so supportive and just wants to always have positivity around. Yeah.

She already lost something she loved.

Exactly. That killed me. Yeah. I was like, All right. Can't die until she's dead, at least.

Yeah. All right, Amy. Yeah.

You got it. When that lady says that to you, look at that lady. How are you going to be like, I don't have to be a heartless fucking sociopath to not get my shit together.

You're like, Okay, this is what I need.

Good lady.

Oh, that's cute, man.

Yeah, I'm a lucky guy in that aspect. I have a really supportive, cool family that has never asked me for anything, and they should. They could, and a lot of them need stuff.

Yeah, you bought Colin Jost that shitty boat, dude. You can't fucking get them something.

Can you imagine being one of my family members that's living check to check? Then you read that. Sorry. That is so true. But I've offered to I've offered to help, and they're like, No.

Yeah, some people are like that.

I love that. That's how I am.

Here's what I start to realize in my family. I think they're joking.

I think they're joking. They don't want you to be like, oh, because I'm always like, All right. But they want you to be like, no, no, no. I got this.

Yeah, dude. I think even you just saying that makes me think I got to help out my family a little bit more.

That's my Staten Island brother right there.

Hey, there you go. He's from Staten Island, too?

Yeah. Isn't that crazy? I mean, from a good part, clearly.

Obviously.

It looks a little different.

A little more island. Yeah, a little bit. A little less Staten.

No, he's the best, man. He's a real good fucking dude. Is he? He's the best.

I only met him one time, and I think he looked so clean. I was just afraid to get to know him.

Oh, dude, he's awesome. You guys would get along great. I don't know anyone that doesn't like... When you're intimidated, not intimidated, but you're just like, I don't think me and that dude will have a vibe. Then you're like, Oh, we love comedy and we're comics, and there's that universal thing, so you guys would hit it off great. It's also fun to hang out with someone that's polar opposite in most ways.

Oh, that's pretty cool.

We're from the same island, but it's like he golfs. I'm like, What the fuck is that? I was like, We have golf club? He was in Staten Island? I was like, I had no idea.

You're out there doing tours of the Gilgo Beach killer area. Different strokes for different folks, brother.

Even the theaters he does have really nice names. I look at his tour and I'm like, That sounds nice. All my shit's like, What the fuck is this, Memphis? It's a bird, dude.

Putting you out there, fucking. You're doing a amphitheater out there at the Gilgo Beach. Killer freaking section. God. Who's this fellow? That's the Gilgo Beach. Oh, gosh. That's your opener in Singapore. That is, dude. You got a rebate from the Port Authority on that one.

Rex Hurman. Rex Hermann.

That's the dude that was killing all the hookers, man.

That's fucked up.

Yeah. That's not cool. How long did you stay? I'm trying to think of different… I probably got to go to a place soon and just get some away. I think everything's just been… I can barely keep it together every week.

Well, you're also one of the most busy people in the world. You have the biggest show out there. But I don't know if you have this feeling where you're like, Well, if I go away, it'll all stop.

Yeah, I just think everything will fall apart. I don't know what I think.

Or you'll be alone with your thoughts. I think when you work a lot, you don't have time to be like, What am I upset about in my childhood? Or whatever. You could take as much fucking time as you like. You deserve it. You deserve a nice little kickback, relax, do something that makes you happy. What makes you happy? What do you like to do?

Well, I think some of it's funny that I'll... Thank you, though, for saying some of that stuff. No, it's true, bro. It is true. I think it's hard for me to get that. It's hard for me to get that into my system. Then to want to do it, I think I'm married to work. I choose to work. Sometimes I think about, I had this girlfriend, this really great girl that I was seeing for years, and I don't know if we're supposed to stay together or not, but sometimes when I think about life or certain things, she's the one that I miss. It doesn't mean we're supposed to stay together, but there was still a good enough connection that was very real that it was like, Man, her affection is what I miss. Caring about her is what I miss. But I could see myself. We'd go out and do stuff, and then we'd come back home, and I could see how she would see me across the room. I'd sit down, I'd put my computer on my lap and just start working. It doesn't matter. If I had 33 seconds, it always went to that.

Just a couple of months ago, I started thinking, Oh, man, that's what she must have seen all the time.

Someone looking up at someone just not there. Yeah. But you are there, but this is your comfortability.

It's comfortable. It's reliable. I know the return. I know the rate of return.

You enjoy it?

Yeah, I enjoy it. If I fail in it, that's fine. It's totally on me. There's no room for any... I mean, there's room for other people in here, really, but it's definitely, it's just you put in, you get out. But so I don't know. I think that's something, just that addiction to work. But then I'm getting older. I'd like to have a family. You're like, Well, I don't know how that's going to happen unless I do some things different. That's where I'm like, I think I got to just, I don't know.

But you're sober, too, right?

Yeah. This year has been a little… I've had a couple of tough moments this year. This past year has been the toughest year that I've had in a while. Yeah, I hear that.

But this is like drugs for me and smoking weed. That was like, those were my friends. I I never did it to go party. I was never like, Hey, let's go fucked up. I did it at home pretty much alone, and I would just watch Family Guy. It was like a warm hug, a warm blanket. When you get rid of your friends, it's like, what's left? It's like work, nicotine.

Yeah.

Am I supposed to give up those, too? It's all I have. Your body needs to appreciate the friends you just let go. If you let go of too many things at once, it's not good for It's like, I don't know if that's how it is with you, but it's hard to have a healthy relationship with... My reliabilities right now are working, zen, and working out and taking care of my girl and hanging out with her. That's all I have. If you pull one of those away, it's like, I don't even have three left. I used to have eight things, and now it's tough. It's tough.

Yeah, I do think there's a lot of stuff there where it's like, I don't want to probably see some of it, or I don't really want to I feel like if I don't have some girl to text or a date to plan or something in the distance or some work thing, if I took everything away and I was just with myself, how would I feel? Or what would that be like? It would probably be fine, but I think it's the fear of what would that be like. It's the hurdle, not the other side a lot of times for me. It's the same thing that comes with commitment to relationships. I had the toughest time committing in relationships. I think it's just It's probably fine on the other side. It's just fucking stepping over the hurdle sometimes.

Do you think you romanticize the fear a little bit as an out, where it's just in your head, you're like, No, this is what it's going to be like. Then there's a fear of, I do it, and that's not what it's like. And then that whole thing is gone. Does that make sense?

It's heading into me.

Do you think having that set answer of like, Well, if I do that, I won't be able to commit, or it's going to go wrong, or whatever, you're preventing yourself from even trying to do it.

Oh, I see what you're saying.

Because it probably is what you need.

Right.

And you can do it. And there's almost like you don't believe in yourself enough. Does that make sense? Yeah. Because a lot of my issues are like that. Where I'm like, Pete can't do that. I can't.

Oh, that's interesting.

Then I can, I prove myself wrong, and I'm not who I thought I was.

Oh, and that's scary to not be who you thought you were because that's the person, whoever that person is, whatever there is of them, that's what I've known them.

Yes. You're comfortable in that. Even if it's traumatic or you're depressed. I'm so afraid to be happy because it's uncomfortable.

Dude, there was a time, this was like a year ago. It's funny you're saying some of this, man. And thanks for thinking about it with me.

No, of course.

Yeah, the time of the year ago, I was thinking, I don't even know who I'd be if I was happy. And if I was, I would leave all of these feelings that I've always known so much that are like my best fucking friends. And it would be like, I almost didn't even did. Man, I don't want to go live like that because I'll desert these, whether they're lies or truths, whatever they are. They're probably all in somewhat of cloaks or masks, but I don't want to desert them. I'm so used to being at this party with this other small group of fucking lonely, perverted, gambling a little. But that group that I I don't even want to go over there. But still, yeah. I think there's probably just the fact of even taking time away to sit and have conversations like this or to be in environments where I'm not regulating how I feel with Celsius Which the Amish are using now, I've heard.

Dude, that was the best. I don't know if you were recording, but I mentioned before that that dude was awesome. You said you were in contact with him, and my question was, how?

Dude, we got to send you over there to see that guy.

I would love to hang with that, dude. Sometimes, I don't know, when I watched it, one, I thought it was really cool you did that because you switch it up. You'll have an Oscar actor, then an athlete, then this Amish kid. But it made me appreciative for what I get to do and what we get to do and some things I take for granted. Oh, yeah. When he was just stoked to get in a Corvette with two chicks. He was like, That was my whole life. I'm like, Oh.

He was pretty fast, too.

Yeah.

Press the pedal.

Yeah. It made me super reflective. One, I thought he was adorable. Yeah, he's a nice kid. Yeah, nice and Very honest and earnest. But I also was just like, Man, I got to stop taking shit like that for granted.

Yeah, I think a lot of that just comes into gratitude and having that. If we can just try to get that as part of our days. I struggle with it, but I I think that's it, too.

Serotonin must be so… You're operating at such a crazy level, dude. You're interviewing the fucking President. You get to do shit every day that is someone's… If I get to do that once in my life, that's my whole life. You're living that every day. So it's like the crash, it's hard.

Well, you too, man. I mean, at least you got to date a lot of beautiful women. I got stuck just interviewing the president, this Amish kid.

I trade. I'd trade, dude. I'd trade.

I'm not trading him. He's only 16. I will say a funny thing about him. One of my favorite things, I was like, See, do you ever listen to music? He's like, Well, we do three hems every day when we get to school, he goes, but every now and then we'll sneak off and listen to some Def Leopard. That's so fucking hard.

That's awesome, dude. That's fucking awesome. Cool for Def Leopard, dude. That's what I thought. Dude, they should do an Amish festival.

They should go straight there.

Absolutely. Right to the source.

Yeah, right to the fucking source, dude.

I haven't heard of Def Leopard since Joe Dyrt. Def Leppard sucks.

But that shit made me laugh. And he said they listened to some Morgan Wallen.

Who's that?

And some Gunna.

And Gunna? Yeah. I would pay to see.

Bring that up.

But also, wait, before you do, the guy on the left in this photo, is that not Bruce Springsteen?

Yeah, it is, obviously.

That's Bruce Springsteen? How?

Yeah.

What do you mean that's not Bruce Springsteen? Who is that guy? I know he's in Def Leopard, but that's Bruce Springsteen.

Who is that guy?

Zoom in. That's Bruce Springsteen. Dude. Oh, yeah, Tim. Now it's not as much. But it looked like him for a second.

There's David Hassel off over there on the right.

Do you have footage of him listening to Gunna, dude?

No, but he does have a good quote about I would love- You know what's one of the funny things is, Morgan Waller and I were texting, and he's like, Man, what if that kid did that walk out with me at my concert? Oh, dude. But he doesn't have an idea. He was going to maybe... I think it was being considered for Canada His show in Edmonton last week, but the Amish don't get identification. Oh, wow.

They're off the map. They don't get a passport, no ID, nothing?

No. If somebody's like, You have an ID, you have to just draw a picture. He's helping show it to them like that.

But they have like bursts. They don't have any of that shit. They're off-grid like that.

I'm going to get him to come back another time and get a little bit more in-depth with him.

Dude, he comes, he has a backwards hat. He has fucking ice on. He's so different. He's talking down to you. I would love to see that episode. He's so full of himself, dude. Wearing a fucking Ricky Williams jersey.

He has a tattoo on his back. This butter, don't churn.

Don't churn on me.

Yeah, don't churn on me.

Don't churn on me, dude.

Let's play this.

He got to get a couple of those, a couple get her done.

It's a couple of-Yeah, we have to get him.

A couple of Hawk Tua statements, you know what I mean? So he could sell his own merch out of the Amish country out of his hat, pulling out merch out of the hat. That'd be fire.

Or she sell those hats. What music do you guys listen to? I know you said in the beginning, there's some different… Sometimes people will sneak in some Def Leopard. But if not, do you guys just sing a lot? Is there a lot of Amish songs in dancing as well or no? In our community, there's not really any dancing. There's The only music, songs that are really a louder would be like, like chairman hums. Then sometimes we sneak out on the weekends and stuff. Listen to some Soulja Boy or something? Yeah. Like Def Leopard, Bonshovi. Bonshovi. A lot of Amish, like rock and roll, and then I guess house EDM music, and then also a lot of country like Gargi Brokes.

Everything. Mark and Wallen. We crank up Spotify.

I also listen to a little bit of rap stuff. Amish Paradise, that's a pretty good song. Hamish Parade. Who sang that? Wirdal Yankevik, I did. Oh, did he? That makes perfect sense. That's great. Hamish Parade, I love that song. That's a banger, huh? It is a banger. Yeah. It looks a little bit mad there, but it was a pretty good song.

It's like me liking a song that just is called 9/11.

Also, I like to listen a little bit of rap stuff, too. Oh, yeah? Yeah, like Ghana. A little bit of Ghana. Oh, you're listening to some Ghana? Yeah. I don't really listen to what he says. I looked at the lyrics a couple of times. The lyrics aren't the best, but.

It sounds very melodic.

He's a vibe. Yeah, that's good.

That's dope, dude.

That's good.

That kid rules.

He does rule, man. You know what's funny, man? Even you saying that about him, it's like, anyone I think about it, the worst thing, I think, is about drugs, addiction, that thing. It could be like, I'm in a group, like SLA, I'm in a lot of different groups, like intimacy disorder type shit, like connectivity disorder, which probably stems from just watching porn growing up like that. But any addiction stuff, it takes you away from just good moments in life, right? It takes you away from the mornings where you get to meet up and meet with a friend for coffee, or you get to work out and feel good about yourself walking out, or you get to text a friend in the morning and say, Hey, have a great day. Or you get to sit with somebody like that who's just.

Because you wake up and you're like, Don't jerk off. Don't jerk off. Don't jerk off. Don't jerk off. Then you jerk off, and then you can go hang out with your friends.

That's the fucking worst, dude. No, it's tough, dude. When you feel like everybody knows you've been jerking off. Yeah.

It's the worst. It's like smoking weed where you're like, Everyone knows I'm high. Everyone knows I just jerkt off because I'm so relaxed. Do you keep up with it when... Are you more into the meetings and stuff when you're like, Fuck, I'm tweaking? Or do you do it both regularly and when you're-If I'm having tough times or not having tough times, I'm always to go to meetings.

Cool. Meetings have always been a thing for me, I think.

Do you have a... I'm sure, I don't I don't know if you feel this way, but sometimes you're in a meeting, you're like, some of these dudes just like to talk. Where you're like, Oh, this guy's here. And he's going to tell that story, and it's so long, and it means so much to him, and it's pretty mid compared to anything I've ever done. It's not to diminish his stuff, but there's some meeting warriors where you're like, Okay, I got it.

One dude would play that song, This Little Light of Mine. Have you ever heard that during his shares or whatever?

I never saw it, but I know that song.

This Little Light of Mine, I'm going to let it shine. But he would put that really low on his phone while he would share at a meeting, dude, and people would be like, Oh, dude.

That's tough.

Some of that shit was crazy, but then that's when I'm recognized, oh, I'm impatient with people, and this is a practice for me to just sit here and be patient. But the best is being- Also, that's annoying as fuck.

Yes. But you have to find the balance. Because that sucks. I don't want you to think you're acting out of character. I need to be a better person. That sounds like it's miserable.

Yeah, and someone said he would even do the City Can't Hold Us, whatever that song is. It was to be go back.

It was a It's the way. Who cares?

Have you been jerking off or not? It's Raymond's turn to share. Let's fucking keep it moving, dude. Sometimes you're like, Fuck. But then you're like, I'm impatient. That's why I'm probably not in a relationship. I'm just impatient. Or like those types of things. Oh, it's Macklemore. Sorry, dude. It's Macklemore. I love Macklemore, I love Macklemore, too.

I hope he drops a banger suit. We miss him.

Bro, get with the Amish, bro.

Oh, he'd be perfect.

That would be perfect.

That would be sick. The Macklemore revival in Amish country.

Bro, if Macklemore hit up the Amish, dude.

That's an untapped market.

This haybell can't hold us. This yellow fever can't hold us. Do they get diseases out there? I don't even know.

Well, they don't have doctors, right? They just have a guy that's like- The Bishop? Yeah.

That's what he says all the time.

Do people No drop like, flies in Amish country?

People don't die that much. There's no depression. There's no ADHD out there. Bro, they're living.

How big is the town? Is it a mile?

It's a good point.

Because I imagine it just looks like a Back to the Future 3 set. That's what I said.

That's mercantile.

Yeah, just like six houses and dirt.

I think you're right. He gave a tour of his house the other day. Somebody said when his parents were out, not out of town, but they were in another district. Is that it right there? Oh, that's the back to the future. I feel like it looks like that, dude.

It has to. You're setting up an Airbnb over there.

Once you started to feel better, did that create a space for you? Because I know you're having a child. You have a child yet?

I'm having a child. Yeah. A boy? We have not disclosed.

But you do know, though.

Oh, we know. Okay, got it. Yeah. But yeah, coming soon. Dropping a baby soon. Okay. Yeah, I'm fucking thrilled, dude.

That's cool. Was it hard to get to that place? Do you think you'd have been able to get there if you didn't get in a sobriety or those things or get into the recovery, that environment? Did that adjust in you the way that you were thinking about having a family or relationships or anything?

So thank God that I'm sober and where I am. I wish I had more time. I don't think anybody's ever like, I'm ready. I wouldn't know, but I wish I had more time of sobriety because it's only been a year and change. But I'm very grateful that it happened now and with the person with Elsy, because in other relationships or when I was a drug addict and very mentally deranged, but that was my goal. I need to have I need to get married because that's how I grew up. All my aunts and uncles got married at 21, and they knew each other since grammar school, and they had three kids by 26.

Oh, that's fire department stat knowledge.

Yeah, blue collar.

Meeting a burn unit and fucking. Yeah. Yeah. So like-Pouple skin grafts, and then we're having one.

Yeah. Like every music video. But I was so not ready. I was not. I didn't even I still don't really know who I am. I think I'm learning. But there was no fucking way that that was possible. I almost think that's why it didn't happen because I was like, I need to do this. I have to do this. No one wanted to do that with me. But I think I knew that. And that's why it was like... And then I stopped dating and I was like, I need I need to fucking get better and I need to be in a place where I could even have a healthy relationship. And if that comes, great. It's like, you can't go into stuff with this, this, that. First of all, it's a lot of pressure on your partner. It's a lot of pressure on you, and you're setting yourself up for failure. It's like, that was just my whole upbringing was like, that's how it works. I think it was backwards for me, especially in this business. That's not how that works. Because people have options. When you're growing up in a small town, it's like, there's these four girls you could pick from.

This is who I went to school with. I'm really grateful it happened now, and I wasn't looking for a relationship or looking to... Obviously, I wanted to, but I wasn't looking to have a baby. It all just happened at once, and it's been awesome. Dang. Yeah, I'm relieved it's her. I'm fucking excited, dude. It's awesome. It's also selfishly, I get to be unselfish. I'm not the focal point of my life anymore, where it's like-So sick of myself. I'm fucking exhausted.

When I was-We were exhausted of you just as people. Yeah.

No, I get it. Now, I get it. Like, I do. I'm joking. No, I'm serious. I'll be like, Yeah, I'd be annoyed, too. I didn't like how... I didn't think that's how I was. I think anybody that knows me knows that's not-Oh, no, I was totally just joking.

But I think you see people's faces so much. I just think that's even how I feel, dude. I'll see a social media, I'll be like, God, somebody burn me down.

It's relentless.

What else do we have to...

I still think it's too much... I'm amazed by people who are super famous and do amazing work that just you only see them when they're working. There's not random articles like, These two guys hung out, or, He went to a Knicks game. It's like, I'm so envious of people that are able to separate that life. But yeah, it's tough, though. It's tough because they need shit to write about all day because our minds are so every two hours, you forget, and then you want to read something else. I think it's tough. It's tougher to be like, someone's going to be, It's so hard to be a celebrity.

It's okay.

But it's tougher. It's life. It's tough for now.

We should just be able to hide. Remember the only things we knew were Richard Gear was starting a pet store in his ass or whatever? Yeah. And what else?

Then you see one of his movies and you're like, I don't care. Yeah.

He's good.

Set up shop. This movie fucks. And he's handsome.

Hey, I'll even watch him do a little Dr. Doolittle.

Bro, that would have been a great sketch, dude, if If he just owned it, I bet he would have been able to beat that if he just did SNL and played Dr. Doolittle. But what a crazy story. There's so many stories where I'm just like, how did this ruin someone's life? There's rumors That's what I'm hearing.

There's a lot of stories that like- There were great stories.

Ron Stewart drank so much cum. His stomach needs to be pumped. And I was like, Dude. I was like, that's... But when you're in high school, you're like, Oh, yeah, fucking idiot. And then you're like, 30, and you're like, that's not even possible, man.

Yeah, dude. Where do you even get that?

Yeah, there's no amount of cum in the world that you could-I wouldn't think.

I don't know. I think if you had a lot, it looks like, I don't know. I've only seen somebody have a little.

Yeah. Where are you getting all this cum from?

Well, that's another thing.

That's another thing.

I don't know.

But yeah, I remember just hearing- Now it has microplastics in it a lot of it. Yeah.

That's the craziest thing.

Non-gmo cum. Yeah, dude. Yeah. Our cum is even bad in America.

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Do you think any of that actually adjusted?

It got to a point where, here's the problem of going to therapy for tablet shit. They're like, your therapist is like, Yeah, I don't know. You're part of a very small small group of people. Then what really freaked me out was I would call Sandler or Stiller. I was like, Hey, when you were young and Sandler, I'm like, I don't know about it. I never really got that. What are you doing? It sucks. I'm like, Oh, fuck. I'm so alone in this, dude. When you call the goats and the big dogs, and they're like, I don't fuck it. It became a like... It got to the point where I wouldn't I would go outside and I would stay inside, and then these articles would keep coming up. And it's always a source close to me. And I'm like, I don't even have friends anymore. I'm like, Who are these people? And then it got to a point where I was just like, I'm not doing anything. This is running my life. Whether I am happy or go out or not, this is still going to happen. I might as well go fucking have fun. Who the fuck cares?

And then what really helped me was I would put someone else's name in the of the article and see if I cared.

Yeah.

I'd be like, so and so, like Hugh Jackman, so and so, so and I'm like, I don't really give a fuck. But when it's you, you're like, Everybody's reading this. When they look at me, this is what they think. And it's like- It's not true. No one reads that shit.

That's the truth, really.

No one, literally, no one reads that shit except for people in our shit.

And the people that write it and the people that still give a fuck about that shit.

But you're a bus driver. They just want to see you do the thing they like that you They want to see you in a movie. No one's fucking got... No one has time for that. But we're in this bubble where it's like, we think all this shit is matters.

Well, I think that's a scary thing about Hollywood. It's a scary thing that always scared me about Hollywood in that environment is, it feels like they build you up, and then they can all... It's this cycle, right? They can't wait. It feels like it's dirty, but it's just the most opportune cycle. Every moment of it, there's a possibility for everything.

We'll get Pedro Pascal right now. Fucking two years A year ago. He's a hardworking great actor.

Eddington was great. You see it?

Yeah, it's fucking great. Wauwakeen. That guy, fucking Ari Aster is just fucking- He is good, huh? He's so good. He just makes sure where I'm just like, I would never be able to think like that. But everyone was like, he's worked so hard and has been a struggling actor. It fucking blows up so fucking hard. Everyone's like, Daddy, Daddy, Daddy, Daddy. And then a year later, He's in everything now because he's hot and big, and everyone's like, You're going to fuck away, dude. It's like, Yo, give-I hope Ice gets Pascal.

You're like, What the fuck, dude?

It's also just like, you got to give someone time to adjust to that new level of Fame. He's been banging at it for 30 years, and now he's learning how to go get a cup of coffee or deal with someone that taps you on the shoulder where you have your ear buds in and freaks you out. You got to give that guy a fucking second to adjust It's like, you know what I mean? Also, what happened? They're going to do it with... Walton Gargans will be next. They'll be like, What the fuck? It's like we build everybody up, and now it's so fast. It's like so fast to turn. And then-Yeah, that turn is crazy. Bro, it's within months.

It's within months where you're like, what the fuck happened? Looking Amish Timothée, huh?

Yeah.

Out here drinking homogenized milk, I've heard. Yeah. They'll be bringing him down soon.

Even like, I know it's different, but the thing with that Hawk to a Girl was so sad. I remember just being like, This is sad. She's not...

You know what I mean? What's going on here? She's jerking or something. She was hypothetically bejaying a man or something on the interview, and then they got her into a meme coin or something. I was like, what?

What the fuck? She was this sweet girl that everyone fell in love with her because she's normal and just cares about pets. Everyone's like, This girl's actually cool. Then does one thing that didn't go the way everybody wanted it to. She doesn't know how to fucking run crypto. I don't even know what crypto is, dude. Are you kidding me? If I can't hold it physically, I don't fuck with it.

Yeah, dude. The fact that people were like, yeah, I'm going to- Fuck you?

Like, this girl? This is who you're going to... Everything going on in the world, then fuck this girl? Are you kidding?

Leave her alone. Yeah, she had a pretty good blowjob recipe, I thought. People are just-I laughed.

This is the enemy. It's so crazy. It's crazy, dude.

But I think if you can get on the right side of your own self, then you can be in control, or you can at least have some awareness. That's where I think the value is these days, is the relationship you can have with yourself is more important than ever, and just understanding of what's going on, that this is how it is. And so let me be in control of myself and not just Just at the whims of how do other people feel about me. Just all these little things, all these addictive things. It's like, the more you can get control over yourself, the better chance you have.

There's also a part of you, though, that has to go through it to understand a little bit. You know what I mean? I was also super judgy growing up. Fuck that, dude. This is an example I love to use. You remember when Christian Bale yelled at that dude on the Terminator set? Yeah. I was 12 years old when that audio came out. You want me to trash your fucking It's distracting. I remember hearing that and I was 12. I was like, What an asshole. Fuck Christian Bale. You're a Batman, dude. You're yelling at a lighting dude. Ten years later, I made one movie. I was like, What the fuck did that lighting guy do? To make Christian Bale so mad that he even knew who he was. Then you Then I did some digging, and it's like, the guy was in the shot. He was on his phone, and Christian Bale is trying to cry to a Terminator. He's a 35-year-old man trying to cry to a robot.

These days is easy, but this is 20 years.

In a bad movie. That's so horrible. He's trying to cry halfway through a bad movie, and there's a lighting guy fucking around in his shot.

The lighting guy's over there doing these things.

It's like, he was right. But the world don't know that because the world has not made a movie or dealt with any of that stuff.

There's no way to win. There's no way to win the thing where everybody likes you. It's all just a trap.

Yeah, and they could smell it on you.

We don't know what people are going through. You don't know what Pristam Bale is going through. He's so good.

He's unbelievable. It's also just like, I remember before, it sounds silly to say, but before you're at a certain level or in this thing, I remember, I just be like, Wow, that guy's a fucking dick. You see a video of someone being like, Hey, Can I take a picture? They're like, Hey, man, I'm eating, or whatever. It's like, maybe that guy's fighting with someone, or maybe he's having a bad day, maybe his grandpa is sick, or maybe he's just fucking hung over. There's so many. Think about how you feel every day. We're just so quick to be like, Oh, that guy's a fucking asshole. It's like, maybe he's tired, dude. Maybe he's tired.

Yeah. Maybe he has a back... Maybe it's one of those things that are supposed to be working out your abs on. I Yeah.

Maybe he's in the fucking zone, dude.

Yeah, maybe he's locked in.

He's locked in, dude.

Oh, so the tour, let me find out the dates you're going on, too. I don't want to keep you too long, man. It's been a fun conversation, dude. Oh, dude. I love it. I'm just glad to think about some of this stuff. Yeah, definitely. Right when you walked in, man, could see a whole different light in your eyes just overall. Oh, thanks, man. Just a warm energy that feels hopeful. It's not judgmental, but I see it in a lot of sober guys. You see guys, they're feeling good.

No, I appreciate I appreciate that. You've always been so me and awesome throughout. I don't know if you remember, but I remember we used to live in LA. We used to run into you all the time at the improv as I was a kid and getting older. You were always so kind and cool. Oh, thanks. Especially at times where certain people weren't or the popular thing was to be like, Fuck that dude. And you were just always awesome. I always appreciated that.

Well, thanks. That's nice of you. I know my friend, Simon Rex thinks so highly of you. Who? Crispy? Look at crispy, baby.

How about that, dude?

He's so great. The turnaround. He helped me so much. One night, he saw me do a set at the last factor, and he tweeted about it. It was the first person that was like, I love Simon Sensor, what's cool, right? Because he's his own thing. Unapologetically. Yes. He was like, this guy's act is cool. Something that just made me feel like, whoa. That was still one of the highlights of my whole life. Then, yeah, I knew you guys have spent some time together over the years.

He's the best, dude. We lived together for a while. He's the fucking man. Also, just love. We all love a turnaround, man.

Oh, yeah, dude.

His glow up.

Crazy. Red Rocket. That movie was bonkers. That's the first movie premiere I ever went to, was to see his red... I guess you actually see his red rocket.

Yeah, you do. There's a wiener.

I hope it's an actor wiener or whatever.

An actor wiener is hilarious.

I don't care if it's them. Yeah, look at that face. Women's Wiener that we're paying for. Oh, yeah, that was fun, dude, watching him.

Yeah, and also just like, when he got, I remember I cried when he got that indie award. You see actors that are at the top of their game or very wealthy. I'm not saying Simon's not. I'm just saying you see people are used to that reception. It was the most honest. If you guys are at home, watch Simon Rex win an Indie spirit award. Let's pull it up. You get so emotional, dude. It means so much to him. He's awesome and stuff. But he was in a certain category. He would I can't even admittedly say, not that people didn't take him seriously, just like, you're a silly goose. Yeah.

And he is a silly goose. And he is. But he found his own. Even a silly goose fucking is full of golden eggs. Yeah.

Simon Baker?

Simon-reck.

No. Sean Baker. Sean Baker. Jeez, I should probably know that name.

Maybe. I don't know.

Please put me in your movie. No, he's a really nice guy, but Sean Baker just saw the magic in him. You know what I mean?

Well, the Florida project was way too fucking long, too. I'll say that Sean Baker, and I'll say that shit with my chest. We play it a little bit. It's good to which Simon gets it.

Okay. What the fuck? Thank you, Film Independent, for recognizing my fake penis. Right away. Yeah.

Silly goos.

Where do I begin? Sean Baker. Sean Baker, you took a shot on me when I could not get a callback for a Geiko commercial. I couldn't get arrested, and this man believed in me and took a shot. And I'm so glad I delivered for you, Sean. Truly, you're a genius. Writer, director, editor, casting. He did it all, and he decided to give me a shot, and I didn't want to let him down. And here I am. Honestly, my career was in the toilet. I gave up. I I moved out to Joshua tree and said, Maybe it's all over. All of a sudden, I get a phone call out of the blue from Sean, and he just gave me a shot. So cool. He called me and said, Look, do you trust me? I've seen this film, so I did trust him. He said, You're not going to make any money. I'm not going to make any money. We're going to go make a movie real quick. We made something special on a very low budget with a 10-person crew. I want to thank everybody from the crew of the film, everyone in the cast, Susanna Son, my co-star.

Thank you so much. I want to thank Bri El Rod, my other co-star in the Love Triangle. Every local actor from Texas who was a first-time actor.

So cool.

I'm sick.

They blew me away. This was like one of those magical things that happens once in a lifetime. I'm still in shock. We shot this during COVID. Even finishing this movie was ambitious, and I'm reeling from the whole experience. Also, thank you to Film Independent. Everybody, thank you, 824. Thank you, Film Nation. Thank you, Lepak, Thank you, Focus. That's good. Universal.

His ending is crazy. At the end, he just goes, I'll give a fuck anymore.

All I want to do, I don't care about fame or money. I got caught in that trap a long time ago. I've been in this business 25 years, and it's not about anything except doing good work. I just want to continue to surprise people and do good work. That's really what this is all about.

This movie was made for a million dollars with a 10%- I love that. I love that fucking line. With a 10%-I got caught up in that shit a long time. I'm just happy to be- He's a special guy. He's a good guy, dude.

He is. He's crispy, dude. That's so crispy, baby. I've met so many great people through him.

Dude, super tapped it.

If people know him, it's like, okay. Oh, yeah. He's like that trustworthy. He's like the elbow. It's like, okay, then I'll let these two parts of it connect. Absolutely.

He dates back. He'll be like, Yeah, I was hanging with... How the fuck do you know?

He did it, Betsey Ross, his fucking daughter. That's crazy, dude.

Yeah, it was crazy. It was crazy. It was crazy shit. He was like, I was hanging out with someone. I'm like, How? Because he's like 50, but he looks 37, but also 80 at the same time. I call him Desert Hot, where he's just like, What are you, dude? But yeah, his fucking- He's unbelievable, dude.

He's the best. A lot of his, yes, some of his ex-girls have even passed away, dude. Some in this hotel. In his room. So Brittany Murphy. But what else? A couple of things you're excited about, about having a child, and then we'll get you out of here.

It sounds super corny, but just super stoked to give this kid a happy childhood and be reliable and just not... You just I don't want your kid... Fuck, though. I know I'm not a dad, but I'm going to be. But I assume I just want my kid to not have the same troubles I had and fears and insecurities and just be there. Just be there and be a solid rock. Also, I'm excited to see my girl be a mom. That's going to be cool.

That is cool.

It'll probably be so hot, too.

Oh, yeah.

I'm just like, whoa.

Put a fucking apron on her or whatever.

Yeah. She gets to do cool mom shit and scream. The boss is here. I'm like, Oh, fuck, yeah. It's so hot. No, but all kidding aside, I'm just- You're one of those yes, we can tattoos right there. Yeah. I'm just excited. Halloween, we all dress up together. Oh, it's fun. Because now Halloween will be cool and not sad that we're all being whores and we're 30.

Yeah, you're out there slurping some chics crotch for a Snicker, whatever.

Yeah, totally.

Type shit, Hell, yeah, dude.

Then after you're done slurping, she's like, I don't even have Snickers. You're like, Oh, Halloween, dude. Oh, dude.

Boo. Boo. How does Amy feel? Does What's she waiting about?

My mom would have this kid with me if she could. My mom has been fucking starved for a grandchild. She's already talking to my girl's belly being like, I made me. I made me. She's like, That's grandma Amy. I'm Amy. I'm like, You got to back off.

That sounds a little cultural appropriation as well a little bit.

You got to back off a little bit. She's overly excited. It's sweet because I feel guilty about my mom giving up dating and just having a life in general to raise me and my sister alone. I didn't realize it until I got older. Like, oh, shit. She was the goat. She really cared. I feel like since me and my sister moved out and we're getting older, She's… I don't want to talk in any way about, but I feel like she's bored and a little lonely. Because I've been like, You should date. She's like, No, your dad was my guy. I'm like, They don't make you anymore, this woman. You know what I mean? I'm very excited for her to have not purpose, but just to be excited about something and baby something and raise something. I'm really excited to see her in that grandma role.

It's going to be cool, dude. I'm excited for Amy. Yeah, I'm stoked. It's going to be fun. And it just grow the family. It's cool. You guys deserve it.

Thanks, man. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm also like, I don't know if you have a huge family, but I have six aunts and uncles, and they all have three, four kids. So there's like 40 cousins. And I was first in the pain to have a kid. Really? Yeah. So this baby is going to get all the love because it's first.

You know what I mean? Oh, yeah.

Hell, yeah. I'm stoked.

That's going to be awesome, man. I was just thinking real fast about... I'm not getting my Silver Line in playbook.

That's a good movie, man. It's so good. It's cool to think about it.

God, I saw it a couple of weeks ago.

I remember Chris Tucker was in it, ran. You're like, Oh, shit. It's Chris Tucker.

Dude, that movie is so good. Oh, no, the movie Frequency. Have you ever seen it?

Jim Cavizal, Dennis Quaid.

Dude, I got to-It's one of my favorite movies. It makes me think of you whenever I I see it.

Bro, yo, I've been waiting to talk Frequency with someone my entire life. I love that movie so much for obvious reasons. But here's what's really funny. 2002, that came out of what? '98 or 2000? It's a good movie. It was 2002, and my grandma, for Christmas, got me the Frequency VHS or DVD, and she was like, You're going to love this movie. I watched it and I was just like, Why would she give it to me? It was not a movie at eight years old, six months after my dad died, that I was prepared to see, but it's literally the Pete Davidson fantasy. So guys, you got to... Jim Caviezel is fucking in the present. He's 30 years old, and his dad's dead, and he was a fireman, and his dad died like 20, 30 years ago or whatever. And he gets this old CB radio, and there's this weird thing going on in the sky, and just like, plugs it in one night because he's sad. And then his dad is on the other side 20 years ago, they talk to each other, they solve a crime, and he comes back at the end, he changes the life trajectory.

And I'm just like, Oh, my God. Yeah, I hope it happens. I really do. Dude, there's a there's a legit part of me that's like, sometimes I'll be on eBay and I'll be like, CB radio. Working Working, working, not project working. I don't want a project. But yeah, it's my fantasy right there.

Yeah, that'd be dope.

Or at least let me remake it. I've been seeing they're making the show about 9/11, and I'm like, Call me up, dude. I should be grandfathered into those projects. I should get a piece of those.

The power of... But it's the power of filmmaking this stuff. Man, this movie filled in little spots for, I think, anybody who had a father, didn't have a father. It fills in little pieces, right? And I think that's what art does for people, man. I think you're going to be able to do a lot of that for people in the future if you want, man.

Oh, thanks, man. It's also so exact. It's so good. Do you have a movie like that where you're like, This is about me.

This is my dream. I think like Family Man. Sometimes that's a movie I love the most. The Cage? Yeah, with Nicolas Cage, that holiday movie, the Christmas movie. I don't even know why, but that's like, and then a League of Their Own about lesbianism or whatever in the '40s or whatever.

I love Zero Dark Thirty.

I haven't seen Zero Dark Thirty.

Oh, dude, I like, jerk off to it. It's about Team 6, taking out Osama bin Laden. That's fucking awesome, dude.

We'll show them. But this one thing that I did, I saw Dennis K one time, and I said, Man, Frequency is, I think, one of my favorite movies ever. He goes, It's one of my favorite movies ever.

Dude, I told him at the Montreal Comedy Festival. Yeah, he's like, cool and out and about. So cool. I ran to him and I was like, Hey. I had tears in my eyes. I was like, You changed my life. But then he was like, Hey, man, I love that movie, too. I was like, Yes. Pretty cool. Yeah, he's We went to the same dentist for a while. Oh, really? Yeah, we were just in that same... When you lived in LA, you know that you pass Fairfax? It's just that giant office building. He just would always be in there at the same time. Oh, dude, look, you look hot, dude.

Definitely was having a tough time. He actually got in a fight in the parking lot on the way out.

That, I believe. Someone said, Frequency sucks. He was like, I'm saying, Pete Davis is alive.

It was some a dispute in the parking lot, but it was a true story. God bless him and Randy Quaid. We almost had him. Me and Spade wrote a movie, and we almost had Randy Quaid in it, but he couldn't get back into the country.

Yeah, what's going on? He's on the run from the authorities?

It's a lot of things we're looking to have him on, so maybe he'll come in and talk to us about it.

Yeah, he's a legend, dude.

Oh, yeah, dude.

He was the Quaid at one point. Yeah. He was the main quaid.

And now Jack is.

And now Jack Quaid.

Jack of all quids, dude.

Dude, it doesn't get better than that. You just slam dunked all over the fucking place. The Jack of all quays.

I'll accept that, dude.

That's unbelievable. I'm jealous.

The tour dates, let's say one more time, Pete, and then we'll get you out of here, man. Thanks so much, dude.

Dude, thank you. A lot of fun, bro. This is a pleasure for me. We got Singapore on the 26th of September, Perth on 28th, Melbourne on the 29th, Sydney on the first. I guess there's a little break there. Then the third, I'm at the Riyadh? Riyadh Saudi Arabia Festival. October fifth, I'm in Berlin at the Tempodrome. That's Germany.

Then you got October sixth in Amsterdam. Amsterdam. October eighth in London, dude.

London, the Palladium. Very excited to That's what we do that. Then Dublin on the ninth and Belfast on the 10th.

Hooray. Nothing better than Ireland, brother.

I'm excited.

That's the best, dude. I'm excited. Belfast, they made the Titanic there. They did? Yeah, they made it. It's crazy. They screwed up, dude. They did. But they still have a museum about it.

It's like, you got to fuck it. If I was that country, I would ignore it.

Yeah, me too, dude.

It would be like one of those things like, Yeah, we did. Anyway, here's Guinness. We did also make Guinness.

Yeah, that's good enough. Pete Davidson, congrats, dude.

Thank you very much.

You're going to be a dad. You're going to be out there inspiring some young child's future. Give a hug to Amy for us, man. We love you. Congratulations on an exciting career. Thanks for just sharing some stuff with us today.

Thanks. Love you, too, man. I appreciate it. Please, if you see the Amish kid alone, again, tell myself it up. I will.

That kid will. You know what? I'll get a note from him for you. Oh, please.

Yeah. Oh, please. Now, I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be cornerstone.

Oh, but when I reach that ground, this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones.

But it's going to take.